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Shall we call mass murder in Vegas for what it is
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duke
2017-10-03 22:53:36 UTC
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The ultimate filth of an atheist.

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a322x1n
2017-10-04 03:31:42 UTC
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The ultimate filth of an atheist.
The pukester, KKKatholikkk Bigot.
On what do you base that statement? You've no
idea on how this person was raised or what he
beleived. Christian people do far, far more
harm to other humans than any atheist ever
could. Theists are responsible for all the
suffering and death there has ever been or
will be.
Atlatl Axolotl
2017-10-04 14:22:41 UTC
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The ultimate filth of an atheist.
The pukester, KKKatholikkk Bigot.
.> On what do you base that statement? You've no
.> idea on how this person was raised or what he
.> beleived. Christian people do far, far more
.> harm to other humans than any atheist ever
.> could. Theists are responsible for all the
.> suffering and death there has ever been or
.> will be.

Oh, Earl has this bogus idea that anyone who
commits a murder can't be a Christian, therefore,
by an application of glaring illogic, they must be an atheist.

I give an example -- one of many -- where the Pope's
army, commanded by the Pope's own legate, slaughtered
20,000 people in order to be sure they got the heretics.

Of course, given that all I have is historical fact and logic,
Earl won't accept that.

33,000 people killed by guns in this country in 2016,
excluding suicides. Kind of odd, given that Earl
thinks there are hardly any actual atheists here.


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hypatiab7
2017-10-04 14:46:31 UTC
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Post by duke
The ultimate filth of an atheist.
The pukester, KKKatholikkk Bigot.
.> On what do you base that statement? You've no
.> idea on how this person was raised or what he
.> beleived. Christian people do far, far more
.> harm to other humans than any atheist ever
.> could. Theists are responsible for all the
.> suffering and death there has ever been or
.> will be.
Oh, Earl has this bogus idea that anyone who
commits a murder can't be a Christian, therefore,
by an application of glaring illogic, they must be an atheist.
I give an example -- one of many -- where the Pope's
army, commanded by the Pope's own legate, slaughtered
20,000 people in order to be sure they got the heretics.
Of course, given that all I have is historical fact and logic,
Earl won't accept that.
33,000 people killed by guns in this country in 2016,
excluding suicides. Kind of odd, given that Earl
thinks there are hardly any actual atheists here.
Earl has always been: If I don't like it, it didn't happen.
But, his biggie has always been that if someone does something
terrible, he must be an atheist. When he gets called on that,
he posts a list of monsters who may or may not be atheists,
but who committed their crimes for personal gain, not atheism,
religion or philosophy.
duke
2017-10-04 21:53:13 UTC
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The ultimate filth of an atheist.
The pukester, KKKatholikkk Bigot.
.> On what do you base that statement? You've no
.> idea on how this person was raised or what he
.> beleived. Christian people do far, far more
.> harm to other humans than any atheist ever
.> could. Theists are responsible for all the
.> suffering and death there has ever been or
.> will be.
Oh, Earl has this bogus idea that anyone who
commits a murder can't be a Christian, therefore,
by an application of glaring illogic, they must be an atheist.
I give an example -- one of many -- where the Pope's
army, commanded by the Pope's own legate, slaughtered
20,000 people in order to be sure they got the heretics.
Of course, given that all I have is historical fact and logic,
Earl won't accept that.
33,000 people killed by guns in this country in 2016,
excluding suicides. Kind of odd, given that Earl
thinks there are hardly any actual atheists here.
Earl has always been: If I don't like it, it didn't happen.
But, his biggie has always been that if someone does something
terrible, he must be an atheist.
Not "must be", but absolutely is in direction violation of the commandment of
God to love and obey God and love your neighbor as you love yourself.

the dukester, American-American


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duke
2017-10-04 21:51:25 UTC
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Post by duke
The ultimate filth of an atheist.
The pukester, KKKatholikkk Bigot.
.> On what do you base that statement? You've no
.> idea on how this person was raised or what he
.> beleived. Christian people do far, far more
.> harm to other humans than any atheist ever
.> could. Theists are responsible for all the
.> suffering and death there has ever been or
.> will be.
Oh, Earl has this bogus idea that anyone who
commits a murder can't be a Christian, therefore,
by an application of glaring illogic, they must be an atheist.
The ***only*** chance he had was to go to confession, be forgiven and absolved.
He died in suicide.
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
I give an example -- one of many -- where the Pope's
army, commanded by the Pope's own legate, slaughtered
20,000 people in order to be sure they got the heretics.
Purpose, purpose, purpose. The Las Vegas atheist is done for.

Remember, he's one of you..

the dukester, American-American


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Atlatl Axolotl
2017-10-04 21:54:57 UTC
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Post by duke
The ultimate filth of an atheist.
The pukester, KKKatholikkk Bigot.
.> On what do you base that statement? You've no
.> idea on how this person was raised or what he
.> beleived. Christian people do far, far more
.> harm to other humans than any atheist ever
.> could. Theists are responsible for all the
.> suffering and death there has ever been or
.> will be.
Oh, Earl has this bogus idea that anyone who
commits a murder can't be a Christian, therefore,
by an application of glaring illogic, they must be an atheist.
The ***only*** chance he had was to go to confession, be forgiven and absolved.
He died in suicide.
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
I give an example -- one of many -- where the Pope's
army, commanded by the Pope's own legate, slaughtered
20,000 people in order to be sure they got the heretics.
Purpose, purpose, purpose.
Oh, please do explain -- what "purpose" allows you to murder
twenty thousand men, women, and children, and still
be a good Christian?

aa
Post by duke
The Las Vegas atheist is done for.
Remember, he's one of you..
the dukester, American-American
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The Catholic Church is like a thick steak, a glass of red wine
and a good cigar.
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duke
2017-10-05 21:40:39 UTC
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Post by duke
The ultimate filth of an atheist.
The pukester, KKKatholikkk Bigot.
.> On what do you base that statement? You've no
.> idea on how this person was raised or what he
.> beleived. Christian people do far, far more
.> harm to other humans than any atheist ever
.> could. Theists are responsible for all the
.> suffering and death there has ever been or
.> will be.
Oh, Earl has this bogus idea that anyone who
commits a murder can't be a Christian, therefore,
by an application of glaring illogic, they must be an atheist.
The ***only*** chance he had was to go to confession, be forgiven and absolved.
He died in suicide.
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
I give an example -- one of many -- where the Pope's
army, commanded by the Pope's own legate, slaughtered
20,000 people in order to be sure they got the heretics.
Purpose, purpose, purpose.
Oh, please do explain -- what "purpose" allows you to murder
twenty thousand men, women, and children, and still
be a good Christian?
I never said what he did was right. I never said he was a recipient of eternal
salvation. Nobody knows. It's reasonable to assume that this did happen. The
story is one of the Church taking on Christian heresy, and killing the innocent
standing by the side of the heretic.

Remember, if you claimed to be a Catholic in those days and take the position
you do today, you too would be killed for heresy. And it wasn't in the USofA
either and long ago.
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The Las Vegas atheist is done for.
Remember, he's one of you..
the dukester, American-American


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Atlatl Axolotl
2017-10-05 22:00:28 UTC
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Post by duke
The ultimate filth of an atheist.
The pukester, KKKatholikkk Bigot.
.> On what do you base that statement? You've no
.> idea on how this person was raised or what he
.> beleived. Christian people do far, far more
.> harm to other humans than any atheist ever
.> could. Theists are responsible for all the
.> suffering and death there has ever been or
.> will be.
Oh, Earl has this bogus idea that anyone who
commits a murder can't be a Christian, therefore,
by an application of glaring illogic, they must be an atheist.
The ***only*** chance he had was to go to confession, be forgiven and absolved.
He died in suicide.
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
I give an example -- one of many -- where the Pope's
army, commanded by the Pope's own legate, slaughtered
20,000 people in order to be sure they got the heretics.
Purpose, purpose, purpose.
.> >Oh, please do explain -- what "purpose" allows you to murder
.> >twenty thousand men, women, and children, and still
.> >be a good Christian?
.> I never said what he did was right. I never said he was a recipient of eternal
.> salvation. Nobody knows. It's reasonable to assume that this did happen. The
.> story is one of the Church taking on Christian heresy, and killing the innocent
.> standing by the side of the heretic.

It is indeed. And it is one which shows the fallacy of your claim that
anyone who commits murder must be an atheist.
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Remember, if you claimed to be a Catholic in those days and take the position
you do today, you too would be killed for heresy. And it wasn't in the USofA
either and long ago.
Post by duke
The Las Vegas atheist is done for.
Remember, he's one of you..
the dukester, American-American
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and a good cigar.
G.K. Chesterton
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duke
2017-10-06 18:09:27 UTC
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Post by duke
The ultimate filth of an atheist.
The pukester, KKKatholikkk Bigot.
.> On what do you base that statement? You've no
.> idea on how this person was raised or what he
.> beleived. Christian people do far, far more
.> harm to other humans than any atheist ever
.> could. Theists are responsible for all the
.> suffering and death there has ever been or
.> will be.
Oh, Earl has this bogus idea that anyone who
commits a murder can't be a Christian, therefore,
by an application of glaring illogic, they must be an atheist.
The ***only*** chance he had was to go to confession, be forgiven and absolved.
He died in suicide.
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
I give an example -- one of many -- where the Pope's
army, commanded by the Pope's own legate, slaughtered
20,000 people in order to be sure they got the heretics.
Purpose, purpose, purpose.
.> >Oh, please do explain -- what "purpose" allows you to murder
.> >twenty thousand men, women, and children, and still
.> >be a good Christian?
.> I never said what he did was right. I never said he was a recipient of eternal
.> salvation. Nobody knows. It's reasonable to assume that this did happen. The
.> story is one of the Church taking on Christian heresy, and killing the innocent
.> standing by the side of the heretic.
It is indeed. And it is one which shows the fallacy of your claim that
anyone who commits murder must be an atheist.
He didn't "order the murder of the innocent". You have basically a single
statement from hundreds of years ago and no idea of history or even truth around
it.

the dukester, American-American


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Atlatl Axolotl
2017-10-06 18:21:18 UTC
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On Wed, 4 Oct 2017 07:22:41 -0700 (PDT), Atlatl Axolotl
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Post by duke
The ultimate filth of an atheist.
The pukester, KKKatholikkk Bigot.
.> On what do you base that statement? You've no
.> idea on how this person was raised or what he
.> beleived. Christian people do far, far more
.> harm to other humans than any atheist ever
.> could. Theists are responsible for all the
.> suffering and death there has ever been or
.> will be.
Oh, Earl has this bogus idea that anyone who
commits a murder can't be a Christian, therefore,
by an application of glaring illogic, they must be an atheist.
The ***only*** chance he had was to go to confession, be forgiven and absolved.
He died in suicide.
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
I give an example -- one of many -- where the Pope's
army, commanded by the Pope's own legate, slaughtered
20,000 people in order to be sure they got the heretics.
Purpose, purpose, purpose.
.> >Oh, please do explain -- what "purpose" allows you to murder
.> >twenty thousand men, women, and children, and still
.> >be a good Christian?
.> I never said what he did was right. I never said he was a recipient of eternal
.> salvation. Nobody knows. It's reasonable to assume that this did happen. The
.> story is one of the Church taking on Christian heresy, and killing the innocent
.> standing by the side of the heretic.
It is indeed. And it is one which shows the fallacy of your claim that
anyone who commits murder must be an atheist.
.> He didn't "order the murder of the innocent". You have basically a single
.> statement from hundreds of years ago and no idea of history or even truth around
.> it.


Beg pardon? You're saying that the slaughter at Béziers didn't happen?
Or that it wasn't actually the army raised by "Innocent" the Third who
committed the slaughter? Or that those soldiers weren't "really" Catholics?
Or that the Papal Legate who led the campaign wasn't an actual Catholic?

Or are you merely saying that it's fine to kill anyone who doesn't
go along with official Church beliefs?


AtlAxo
duke
2017-10-08 15:26:38 UTC
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Post by duke
The ultimate filth of an atheist.
The pukester, KKKatholikkk Bigot.
.> On what do you base that statement? You've no
.> idea on how this person was raised or what he
.> beleived. Christian people do far, far more
.> harm to other humans than any atheist ever
.> could. Theists are responsible for all the
.> suffering and death there has ever been or
.> will be.
Oh, Earl has this bogus idea that anyone who
commits a murder can't be a Christian, therefore,
by an application of glaring illogic, they must be an atheist.
The ***only*** chance he had was to go to confession, be forgiven and absolved.
He died in suicide.
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
I give an example -- one of many -- where the Pope's
army, commanded by the Pope's own legate, slaughtered
20,000 people in order to be sure they got the heretics.
Purpose, purpose, purpose.
.> >Oh, please do explain -- what "purpose" allows you to murder
.> >twenty thousand men, women, and children, and still
.> >be a good Christian?
.> I never said what he did was right. I never said he was a recipient of eternal
.> salvation. Nobody knows. It's reasonable to assume that this did happen. The
.> story is one of the Church taking on Christian heresy, and killing the innocent
.> standing by the side of the heretic.
It is indeed. And it is one which shows the fallacy of your claim that
anyone who commits murder must be an atheist.
.> He didn't "order the murder of the innocent". You have basically a single
.> statement from hundreds of years ago and no idea of history or even truth around
.> it.
Beg pardon? You're saying that the slaughter at Béziers didn't happen?
Or that it wasn't actually the army raised by "Innocent" the Third who
committed the slaughter? Or that those soldiers weren't "really" Catholics?
Or that the Papal Legate who led the campaign wasn't an actual Catholic?
When's the last time you commented on what others actually said?
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Or are you merely saying that it's fine to kill anyone who doesn't
go along with official Church beliefs?
Neither.
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AtlAxo
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2017-10-04 21:43:02 UTC
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The ultimate filth of an atheist.
The pukester, KKKatholikkk Bigot.
On what do you base that statement? You've no
idea on how this person was raised or what he
beleived.
Nope, sorry. A Christian by definition follows Jesus' commands to love and
serve God and loving your neighbor as you love yourself.

He's an atheist burning in hell now.


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The ultimate filth of an atheist.
The pukester, KKKatholikkk Bigot.
On what do you base that statement? You've no
idea on how this person was raised or what he
beleived.
Nope, sorry. A Christian by definition follows Jesus' commands to love and
serve God and loving your neighbor as you love yourself.
He's an atheist burning in hell now.
And thus do we see the depth of Duke's "thinking" -- either
you're a Christian or an atheist. No other possibilities.

Four billion people beg to differ.


Atlatl Axolotl
duke
2017-10-05 21:45:23 UTC
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The ultimate filth of an atheist.
The pukester, KKKatholikkk Bigot.
On what do you base that statement? You've no
idea on how this person was raised or what he
beleived.
Nope, sorry. A Christian by definition follows Jesus' commands to love and
serve God and loving your neighbor as you love yourself.
He's an atheist burning in hell now.
And thus do we see the depth of Duke's "thinking" -- either
you're a Christian or an atheist. No other possibilities.
Four billion people beg to differ.
You think anybody blesses him for opening firing with machine guns, killing 59
and injuring over 500 others?

Christians are not Christians because they carry ID cards. People become
Christians by taking an oath of Baptism in belief in Jesus Christ - who calls us
to love and obey God and love our neighbor as we love ourselves.

Do you really believe he loves all those he killed in cold blood? What kind of
animal are you?


If you can find this in this murderer, let me know.
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2017-10-05 22:07:52 UTC
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The ultimate filth of an atheist.
The pukester, KKKatholikkk Bigot.
On what do you base that statement? You've no
idea on how this person was raised or what he
beleived.
Nope, sorry. A Christian by definition follows Jesus' commands to love and
serve God and loving your neighbor as you love yourself.
He's an atheist burning in hell now.
And thus do we see the depth of Duke's "thinking" -- either
you're a Christian or an atheist. No other possibilities.
Four billion people beg to differ.
You think anybody blesses him for opening firing with machine guns, killing 59
and injuring over 500 others?
Christians are not Christians because they carry ID cards. People become
Christians by taking an oath of Baptism in belief in Jesus Christ - who calls us
to love and obey God and love our neighbor as we love ourselves.
Do you really believe he loves all those he killed in cold blood? What kind of
animal are you?
Do you sit around and practice totally missing the point?
Did someone give you lessons in applied obliviousness? Those
last three paragraphs of yours appear to be from a different
universe than the one I'm writing from.

All I did saynwas simply that in declaring the asshole to be an atheist
you divide the world into either Christian or atheist.

Thus I corrected you by pointing out the the majority of people in
the world are neither.

What you proceeded to make of that has exactly zero to do
with what I said.


aa
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If you can find this in this murderer, let me know.
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duke
2017-10-06 18:11:24 UTC
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You think anybody blesses him for opening firing with machine guns, killing 59
and injuring over 500 others?
Christians are not Christians because they carry ID cards. People become
Christians by taking an oath of Baptism in belief in Jesus Christ - who calls us
to love and obey God and love our neighbor as we love ourselves.
Do you really believe he loves all those he killed in cold blood? What kind of
animal are you?
Do you sit around and practice totally missing the point?
I didn't miss the point. You're the one doing that. Until shown otherwise, he
opened fire on 22,000 people with total hatred.

the dukester, American-American


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2017-10-06 18:22:54 UTC
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You think anybody blesses him for opening firing with machine guns, killing 59
and injuring over 500 others?
Christians are not Christians because they carry ID cards. People become
Christians by taking an oath of Baptism in belief in Jesus Christ - who calls us
to love and obey God and love our neighbor as we love ourselves.
Do you really believe he loves all those he killed in cold blood? What kind of
animal are you?
Do you sit around and practice totally missing the point?
I didn't miss the point. You're the one doing that. Until shown otherwise, he
opened fire on 22,000 people with total hatred.
Wow. Duke totally < WHOOSH! > misses my point, and when
I point it out, he misses the point of *that*.

Earl is infinite recursion without a base case.


aa
duke
2017-10-08 16:07:27 UTC
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Post by duke
On Wed, 4 Oct 2017 14:47:21 -0700 (PDT), Atlatl Axolotl
You think anybody blesses him for opening firing with machine guns, killing 59
and injuring over 500 others?
Christians are not Christians because they carry ID cards. People become
Christians by taking an oath of Baptism in belief in Jesus Christ - who calls us
to love and obey God and love our neighbor as we love ourselves.
Do you really believe he loves all those he killed in cold blood? What kind of
animal are you?
Do you sit around and practice totally missing the point?
I didn't miss the point. You're the one doing that. Until shown otherwise, he
opened fire on 22,000 people with total hatred.
Wow. Duke totally < WHOOSH! > misses my point, and when
I point it out, he misses the point of *that*.
God only knows what you're trying to say.


the dukester, American-American


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Post by duke
On Wed, 4 Oct 2017 14:47:21 -0700 (PDT), Atlatl Axolotl
You think anybody blesses him for opening firing with machine guns, killing 59
and injuring over 500 others?
Christians are not Christians because they carry ID cards. People become
Christians by taking an oath of Baptism in belief in Jesus Christ - who calls us
to love and obey God and love our neighbor as we love ourselves.
Do you really believe he loves all those he killed in cold blood? What kind of
animal are you?
Do you sit around and practice totally missing the point?
I didn't miss the point. You're the one doing that. Until shown otherwise, he
opened fire on 22,000 people with total hatred.
Wow. Duke totally < WHOOSH! > misses my point, and when
I point it out, he misses the point of *that*.
God only knows what you're trying to say.
the dukester, American-American
God and almost everybody else reading this thread.
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The ultimate filth of an atheist.
The pukester, KKKatholikkk Bigot.
On what do you base that statement? You've no idea on how this
person was raised or what he beleived.
Nope, sorry. A Christian by definition follows Jesus' commands to
love and serve God and loving your neighbor as you love yourself.
He's an atheist burning in hell now.
And thus do we see the depth of Duke's "thinking" -- either you're a
Christian or an atheist. No other possibilities.
Four billion people beg to differ.
You think anybody blesses him for opening firing with machine guns,
killing 59 and injuring over 500 others?
Christians are not Christians because they carry ID cards. People
become Christians by taking an oath of Baptism in belief in Jesus
Christ - who calls us to love and obey God and love our neighbor as we
love ourselves.
Do you really believe he loves all those he killed in cold blood? What
kind of animal are you?
Do you sit around and practice totally missing the point?
Did someone give you lessons in applied obliviousness? Those last three
paragraphs of yours appear to be from a different universe than the one
I'm writing from.
All I did saynwas simply that in declaring the asshole to be an atheist
you divide the world into either Christian or atheist.
Thus I corrected you by pointing out the the majority of people in the
world are neither.
What you proceeded to make of that has exactly zero to do with what I
said.
When Duke cannot answer he changes the subject and bloviates at length.
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People become Christians by taking an oath of Baptism in belief in Jesus
Christ - who calls us to love and obey God and love our neighbor as we love
ourselves.
That's not true. That would make Christianity a works-based religion.

People become Roman Catholics by taking an oath of Baptism.

People become Christians by being regenerated by the Holy Spirit, and then believing on the Lord Jesus Christ.

Christianity is a faith-based religion.

You are not a Christian.
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2017-10-08 16:26:02 UTC
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People become Christians by taking an oath of Baptism in belief in Jesus
Christ - who calls us to love and obey God and love our neighbor as we love
ourselves.
That's not true. That would make Christianity a works-based religion.
That's exactly true. The point that you missed is that is the prohibition is of
"works of the LAW", which is the torah of the Jewish OT.

James 2:26New International Version (NIV)
26 As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead.

Mat 25:31-46, James 2:26
Feed the hungry.
Clothe the naked.
Give drink to the thirsty.
Visit the imprisoned.
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People become Roman Catholics by taking an oath of Baptism.
People become Christians by being regenerated by the Holy Spirit, and then believing on the Lord Jesus Christ.
The Holy Spirit descended on Jesus as he left the waters of his baptism.
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Christianity is a faith-based religion.
You are not a Christian.
John 14:12New International Version (NIV)
12 Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been
doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to
the Father.

Matthew 16:27New International Version (NIV)
27 For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father’s glory with his angels,
and then he will reward each person according to what they have done.

Ephesians 2:8-10New International Version (NIV)
8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from
yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.
10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which
God prepared in advance for us to do.

You see, good works, not works of the law.

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2017-10-04 23:25:19 UTC
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A Christian by definition follows Jesus' commands to love and
serve God and loving your neighbor as you love yourself.
I've got a better definition than yours. And mine is taken directly
from the Word of God. Yours isn't.

"If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your
heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved."
[Romans 10:9]
Cloud Hobbit
2017-10-05 05:32:14 UTC
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Post by duke
A Christian by definition follows Jesus' commands to love and
serve God and loving your neighbor as you love yourself.
I've got a better definition than yours. And mine is taken directly
from the Word of God. Yours isn't.
"If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your
heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved."
[Romans 10:9]
IOW if you accept the lies of the bible then an imaginary being will lift you up to an imaginary place.
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2017-10-05 21:48:28 UTC
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A Christian by definition follows Jesus' commands to love and
serve God and loving your neighbor as you love yourself.
I've got a better definition than yours. And mine is taken directly
from the Word of God. Yours isn't.
"If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your
heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved."
[Romans 10:9]
IOW if you accept the lies of the bible then an imaginary being will lift you up to an imaginary place.
Tulipboy doesn't understand that we must live the part, not use lip service
once.

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Kevrob
2017-10-05 07:24:00 UTC
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Post by duke
A Christian by definition follows Jesus' commands to love and
serve God and loving your neighbor as you love yourself.
I've got a better definition than yours. And mine is taken directly
from the Word of God. Yours isn't.
"If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your
heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved."
[Romans 10:9]
`cept if Yahooe doesn't want you to be saved, right, oh
great Calvinist moral robot?

Hogwash.

Kevin R
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A Christian by definition follows Jesus' commands to love and
serve God and loving your neighbor as you love yourself.
I've got a better definition than yours. And mine is taken directly
from the Word of God. Yours isn't.
"If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your
heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved."
[Romans 10:9]
Except if God doesn't want you to be saved, right?
No, you're wrong again, little one.

Confessing with the mouth that Jesus is Lord and believing in the heart
that God raised him from the dead are the results, not the cause, of being
regenerated by the Holy Spirit.

Only the chosen elect are regenerated by the Holy Spirit.

See how easy it is for you to be wrong all the time?
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The unregenerate non-elect will always believe what another unregenerate
non-elect says, whereas the regenerate chosen elect will intrinsically
recognize what the unregenerate non-elect says as a lie. Therefore those
who were predestined for Hell, will still end up in Hell, and those who
are predestined for Heaven are still going to go to Heaven. Nothing in
God's plan will change. For by convincing other unregenerate non-elects
to believe his lies, he is fulfilling that part of God's plan that God
has predestined just for him.

Or, as the Gospel of John very concisely puts it:
"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the
door but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief and a robber.
But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. To him the
gatekeeper opens. The sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep
by name and leads them out. When he has brought out all his own, he
goes before them, and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. A
stranger they will not follow, but they will flee from him, for they do
not know the voice of strangers."
[John 10:1-5]
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2017-10-05 21:47:39 UTC
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Post by duke
A Christian by definition follows Jesus' commands to love and
serve God and loving your neighbor as you love yourself.
I've got a better definition than yours. And mine is taken directly
from the Word of God. Yours isn't.
"If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your
heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved."
[Romans 10:9]
And the new covenant calls for us to love and obey God and love your neighbor as
we love ourselves.

He could have envisioned himself following Romans 10:9 and he's still in hell.
Lip service doesn't do it.

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2017-10-05 21:52:26 UTC
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Post by duke
A Christian by definition follows Jesus' commands to love and
serve God and loving your neighbor as you love yourself.
I've got a better definition than yours. And mine is taken directly
from the Word of God. Yours isn't.
"If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your
heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved."
[Romans 10:9]
And the new covenant calls for us to love and obey God and love your neighbor
as we love ourselves.
Yours is a works-based religion.

Christianity is a faith-based religion.

You are not a Christian.
duke
2017-10-06 18:14:50 UTC
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Post by duke
A Christian by definition follows Jesus' commands to love and
serve God and loving your neighbor as you love yourself.
I've got a better definition than yours. And mine is taken directly
from the Word of God. Yours isn't.
"If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your
heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved."
[Romans 10:9]
And the new covenant calls for us to love and obey God and love your neighbor
as we love ourselves.
Yours is a works-based religion.
Only as defined by Jesus. BTW, the restriction is on "works of the LAW". James
2:26 says your faith is dead without deeds.
Post by b***@gmail.com
Christianity is a faith-based religion.
You refuse to follow Jesus, your being a fake Christian faith.

MASS:
Do this in memory of me - Mat 26:26-29, Mark 14:22-26, Luke 22:14-20,
1Cor 11:23-25 (11-34).

SACRAMENTS:
1. Baptism - John 3:5-6, Mat 28:19, Hebrew 2:14-15
2. Holy Eucharist -Mat 26:26-29, Mark 14:22-26, Luke 22:14-20,
1Cor 11:23-25 (11-34).
3. Confession - John 20:22-23, 2 Cor 5:18-19, Mat 9:2-8
4. Matrimony - Mat 19:4-6, Mark 10:5-9, Ephesians 5:31
5. Confirmation - Ephesians 1:13-14, Acts 8:14-17, Acts 19:5-6,
6. Holy Orders - Acts 13:3 & 14:23, John 20:22, 1 & 2 Tim
7. Anointing of the Sick - Mark 6:12-13, John 5:14

PAPACY:
Mat 16:13-19 (Pope), Mat 28:16-20 (Teaching), Eph 2:19-20 (Base)

PURGATORY:
1 Cor 3:10-15

FAITH (without deeds is dead faith):
Mat 25:31-46, James 2:26
Feed the hungry.
Clothe the naked.
Give drink to the thirsty.
Visit the imprisoned.

Heal the sick.
Cast out demons.



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2017-10-06 21:27:01 UTC
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A Christian by definition follows Jesus' commands to love and
serve God and loving your neighbor as you love yourself.
I've got a better definition than yours. And mine is taken directly
from the Word of God. Yours isn't.
"If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your
heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved."
[Romans 10:9]
And the new covenant calls for us to love and obey God and love your neighbor
as we love ourselves.
Yours is a works-based religion.
Only as defined by Jesus. BTW, the restriction is on "works of the LAW".
James 2:26 says your faith is dead without deeds.
James 2:14–26 is sometimes taken out of context in an attempt to create
a works-based system of righteousness, but that is contrary to many
other passages of Scripture. James is not saying that our works make us
righteous before God, but that real saving faith is demonstrated by good
works. Works are not the cause of salvation; works are the evidence of
salvation. Faith in Christ always results in good works. It's not
something you feel forced into doing in order to be saved. The person
who claims to be a Christian but lives in willful disobedience to Christ
has a false or dead faith and is not saved. Paul basically says the same
thing in 1 Corinthians 6:9–10. James contrasts two different types of
faith—true faith that saves and false faith that is dead.

Your faith is false and is dead.

Christianity is a faith-based religion.

You are not a Christian.
duke
2017-10-08 16:30:52 UTC
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Post by duke
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Post by duke
A Christian by definition follows Jesus' commands to love and
serve God and loving your neighbor as you love yourself.
I've got a better definition than yours. And mine is taken directly
from the Word of God. Yours isn't.
"If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your
heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved."
[Romans 10:9]
And the new covenant calls for us to love and obey God and love your neighbor
as we love ourselves.
Yours is a works-based religion.
Only as defined by Jesus. BTW, the restriction is on "works of the LAW".
James 2:26 says your faith is dead without deeds.
James 2:14–26 is sometimes taken out of context in an attempt to create
a works-based system of righteousness,
Are you saying that the word of God can be taken out to context? What about
what he actually said. If you decide for yourself what is real and what is not,
then you are not following the teachings of Jesus.
Your faith is false and is dead.
Christianity is a faith-based religion.
You are not a Christian.
I follow Jesus. You decide for yourself what is real and what isn't.

MASS:
Do this in memory of me - Mat 26:26-29, Mark 14:22-26, Luke 22:14-20,
1Cor 11:23-25 (11-34).

SACRAMENTS:
1. Baptism - John 3:5-6, Mat 28:19, Hebrew 2:14-15
2. Holy Eucharist -Mat 26:26-29, Mark 14:22-26, Luke 22:14-20,
1Cor 11:23-25 (11-34).
3. Confession - John 20:22-23, 2 Cor 5:18-19, Mat 9:2-8
4. Matrimony - Mat 19:4-6, Mark 10:5-9, Ephesians 5:31
5. Confirmation - Ephesians 1:13-14, Acts 8:14-17, Acts 19:5-6,
6. Holy Orders - Acts 13:3 & 14:23, John 20:22, 1 & 2 Tim
7. Anointing of the Sick - Mark 6:12-13, John 5:14

PAPACY:
Mat 16:13-19 (Pope), Mat 28:16-20 (Teaching), Eph 2:19-20 (Base)

PURGATORY:
1 Cor 3:10-15

FAITH (without deeds is dead faith):
Mat 25:31-46, James 2:26
Feed the hungry.
Clothe the naked.
Give drink to the thirsty.
Visit the imprisoned.

Heal the sick.
Cast out demons.

the dukester, American-American


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The ultimate filth of an atheist.
The pukester, KKKatholikkk Bigot.
On what do you base that statement? You've no
idea on how this person was raised or what he
beleived.
Nope, sorry. A Christian by definition follows Jesus' commands to love and
serve God and loving your neighbor as you love yourself.
He's an atheist burning in hell now.
Crispy critter..
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The ultimate filth of an atheist.
The pukester, KKKatholikkk Bigot.
On what do you base that statement? You've no
idea on how this person was raised or what he
beleived. Christian people do far, far more
harm to other humans than any atheist ever
could. Theists are responsible for all the
suffering and death there has ever been or
will be.
Not so. Muslims bump off plenty and even Hindu vegans occasionally
have their little massacres (but contrary to the law of the Old West,
never eat what they kill).
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The ultimate filth of an atheist.
The pukester, KKKatholikkk Bigot.
On what do you base that statement? You've no idea on how this person
was raised or what he beleived. Christian people do far, far more harm
to other humans than any atheist ever could. Theists are responsible
for all the suffering and death there has ever been or will be.
Not so. Muslims bump off plenty and even Hindu vegans occasionally have
their little massacres (but contrary to the law of the Old West,
never eat what they kill).
And in Myanmar (formerly Burma), Buddhists are currently doing the same.
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The ultimate filth of an atheist.
The pukester, KKKatholikkk Bigot.
On what do you base that statement? You've no idea on how this person
was raised or what he beleived. Christian people do far, far more harm
to other humans than any atheist ever could. Theists are responsible
for all the suffering and death there has ever been or will be.
Not so. Muslims bump off plenty and even Hindu vegans occasionally have
their little massacres (but contrary to the law of the Old West,
never eat what they kill).
And in Myanmar (formerly Burma), Buddhists are currently doing the same.
I'm still wondering why Aung San Suu Kyi is tolerating the genocide, especially after all her problems as a human rights victim.
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The ultimate filth of an atheist.
The pukester, KKKatholikkk Bigot.
On what do you base that statement? You've no idea on how this person
was raised or what he beleived. Christian people do far, far more harm
to other humans than any atheist ever could. Theists are responsible
for all the suffering and death there has ever been or will be.
Not so. Muslims bump off plenty and even Hindu vegans occasionally have
their little massacres (but contrary to the law of the Old West,
never eat what they kill).
.> > And in Myanmar (formerly Burma), Buddhists are currently doing the same.
.> I'm still wondering why Aung San Suu Kyi is tolerating the genocide, especially after all her problems as a human rights victim.

An article I read suggests that she's a very stubborn person,
and that the same stubbornness that allowed her to hold
steadfast through house arrest and everything she went through
is now making her resist rebukes from outsiders.

Atlatl Axolotl
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The ultimate filth of an atheist.
The pukester, KKKatholikkk Bigot.
On what do you base that statement? You've no idea on how this person
was raised or what he beleived. Christian people do far, far more harm
to other humans than any atheist ever could. Theists are responsible
for all the suffering and death there has ever been or will be.
Not so. Muslims bump off plenty and even Hindu vegans occasionally have
their little massacres (but contrary to the law of the Old West,
never eat what they kill).
.> > And in Myanmar (formerly Burma), Buddhists are currently doing the same.
.> I'm still wondering why Aung San Suu Kyi is tolerating the genocide, especially after all her problems as a human rights victim.
An article I read suggests that she's a very stubborn person,
and that the same stubbornness that allowed her to hold
steadfast through house arrest and everything she went through
is now making her resist rebukes from outsiders.
But not condemning genocide....
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The ultimate filth of an atheist.
The pukester, KKKatholikkk Bigot.
On what do you base that statement? You've no idea on how this person
was raised or what he beleived. Christian people do far, far more harm
to other humans than any atheist ever could. Theists are responsible
for all the suffering and death there has ever been or will be.
Not so. Muslims bump off plenty and even Hindu vegans occasionally have
their little massacres (but contrary to the law of the Old West,
never eat what they kill).
.> > And in Myanmar (formerly Burma), Buddhists are currently doing the same.
.> > .> I'm still wondering why Aung San Suu Kyi is tolerating the genocide, especially after all her problems as a human rights victim.
.> > An article I read suggests that she's a very stubborn person,
.> > and that the same stubbornness that allowed her to hold
.> > steadfast through house arrest and everything she went through
.> > is now making her resist rebukes from outsiders.
.> But not condemning genocide....

Oh, I know. It's horrific.


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The ultimate filth of an atheist.
The pukester, KKKatholikkk Bigot.
On what do you base that statement? You've no idea on how this
person was raised or what he beleived. Christian people do far,
far more harm to other humans than any atheist ever could.
Theists are responsible for all the suffering and death there has
ever been or will be.
Not so. Muslims bump off plenty and even Hindu vegans
occasionally have their little massacres (but contrary to the law
of the Old West,
never eat what they kill).
And in Myanmar (formerly Burma), Buddhists are currently doing the
same.
I'm still wondering why Aung San Suu Kyi is tolerating the genocide,
especially after all her problems as a human rights victim.
An article I read suggests that she's a very stubborn person,
and that the same stubbornness that allowed her to hold steadfast
through house arrest and everything she went through is now making her
resist rebukes from outsiders.
But not condemning genocide....
It appears that she has no control over the army and that crossing them
would result in her downfall from office.
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The ultimate filth of an atheist.
The pukester, KKKatholikkk Bigot.
On what do you base that statement? You've no idea on how this
person was raised or what he beleived. Christian people do far,
far more harm to other humans than any atheist ever could.
Theists are responsible for all the suffering and death there has
ever been or will be.
Not so. Muslims bump off plenty and even Hindu vegans
occasionally have their little massacres (but contrary to the law
of the Old West,
never eat what they kill).
And in Myanmar (formerly Burma), Buddhists are currently doing the
same.
I'm still wondering why Aung San Suu Kyi is tolerating the genocide,
especially after all her problems as a human rights victim.
An article I read suggests that she's a very stubborn person,
and that the same stubbornness that allowed her to hold steadfast
through house arrest and everything she went through is now making her
resist rebukes from outsiders.
But not condemning genocide....
It appears that she has no control over the army and that crossing them
would result in her downfall from office.
Sooooooo, she lost the courage she had for all those years in house arrest?
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The ultimate filth of an atheist.
The pukester, KKKatholikkk Bigot.
On what do you base that statement? You've no idea on how this
person was raised or what he beleived. Christian people do far,
far more harm to other humans than any atheist ever could.
Theists are responsible for all the suffering and death there has
ever been or will be.
Not so. Muslims bump off plenty and even Hindu vegans
occasionally have their little massacres (but contrary to the law
of the Old West,
never eat what they kill).
And in Myanmar (formerly Burma), Buddhists are currently doing the
same.
I'm still wondering why Aung San Suu Kyi is tolerating the genocide,
especially after all her problems as a human rights victim.
An article I read suggests that she's a very stubborn person,
and that the same stubbornness that allowed her to hold steadfast
through house arrest and everything she went through is now making her
resist rebukes from outsiders.
But not condemning genocide....
It appears that she has no control over the army and that crossing them
would result in her downfall from office.
Sooooooo, she lost the courage she had for all
those years in house arrest?
That's possible. Also possible, and I haven't looked
into this, is that she may dislike Muslims. Like everyone
else in her country who isn't a Muslim does.

The armed forces could put her and her followers back
where they were any day they choose to, and what good
would that be to anybody?

And she may have been discouraged by the conviction
of Dave Lee Travis for indecent assault.
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Post by duke
The ultimate filth of an atheist.
The pukester, KKKatholikkk Bigot.
On what do you base that statement? You've no
idea on how this person was raised or what he
beleived. Christian people do far, far more
harm to other humans than any atheist ever
could.
Atheists are responsible for the greatest mass murderings in history.

Check the 20th century, fool

Theists are responsible for all the
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suffering and death there has ever been or
will be.
You're a fool.
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2017-10-04 04:02:05 UTC
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The ultimate filth of an atheist.
“Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius -
Kill them all for the Lord knoweth them that are His”

Often rendered as "Kill them all and let God sort them out".

Uttered by the Abbot of Citeaux, Arnaud Amalric, who
commanded the army sent by Pope "Innocent" III
to eliminate the Cathars.

True to the Papal legate's word, the Pope's army
fell on the town of Béziers and slaughtered its 20,000 inhabitants.

Must have been the work of that "filthy atheist" Pope
and his "filthy atheist" Abbot of a commander and
their "filthy atheist" Papal army.


AtlAxo
duke
2017-10-04 21:57:20 UTC
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Post by duke
The ultimate filth of an atheist.
“Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius -
Kill them all for the Lord knoweth them that are His”
Often rendered as "Kill them all and let God sort them out".
Uttered by the Abbot of Citeaux, Arnaud Amalric, who
commanded the army sent by Pope "Innocent" III
to eliminate the Cathars.
God alone knows the true nature of that order. The status of the Abbot is
something only God knows.
True to the Papal legate's word, the Pope's army
fell on the town of Béziers and slaughtered its 20,000 inhabitants.
Must have been the work of that "filthy atheist" Pope
and his "filthy atheist" Abbot of a commander and
their "filthy atheist" Papal army.
They were heretics in war..
AtlAxo
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On Tue, 3 Oct 2017 21:02:05 -0700 (PDT), Atlatl Axolotl
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Post by duke
The ultimate filth of an atheist.
“Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius -
Kill them all for the Lord knoweth them that are His”
Often rendered as "Kill them all and let God sort them out".
Uttered by the Abbot of Citeaux, Arnaud Amalric, who
commanded the army sent by Pope "Innocent" III
to eliminate the Cathars.
God alone knows the true nature of that order. The status of the Abbot is
something only God knows.
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
True to the Papal legate's word, the Pope's army
fell on the town of Béziers and slaughtered its 20,000 inhabitants.
.> >Must have been the work of that "filthy atheist" Pope
.> >and his "filthy atheist" Abbot of a commander and
.> >their "filthy atheist" Papal army.
Post by duke
They were heretics in war..
War? What "war"? You don't even know the history of your
own church.

There was no war. Your Pope "Innocent" [sic] III sent
out an army to exterminate the Cathars. No one was
at war.

And why did the commander say "Kill them all and let
God sort them out"? Because there were both Catholics
and Cathars in the city, and he was being asked how the
soldiers could tell the good guys from the "bad" ones.

(where "bad" means "believing something we don't
want you to believe")

The Abbot replied that they were to kill everybody,
because God would know which was which after
everyone -- men, women, and children -- were dead.

By your claim about Christians and murderers, your
Pope, his Legate, and his entire army were filthy murdering atheists.





aa
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2017-10-05 21:51:44 UTC
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Post by duke
On Tue, 3 Oct 2017 21:02:05 -0700 (PDT), Atlatl Axolotl
Post by duke
The ultimate filth of an atheist.
“Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius -
Kill them all for the Lord knoweth them that are His”
Often rendered as "Kill them all and let God sort them out".
Uttered by the Abbot of Citeaux, Arnaud Amalric, who
commanded the army sent by Pope "Innocent" III
to eliminate the Cathars.
God alone knows the true nature of that order. The status of the Abbot is
something only God knows.
True to the Papal legate's word, the Pope's army
fell on the town of Béziers and slaughtered its 20,000 inhabitants.
.> >Must have been the work of that "filthy atheist" Pope
.> >and his "filthy atheist" Abbot of a commander and
.> >their "filthy atheist" Papal army.
Post by duke
They were heretics in war..
War? What "war"? You don't even know the history of your
own church.
There was no war. Your Pope "Innocent" [sic] III sent
out an army to exterminate the Cathars. No one was
at war.
The Cathars were living the life of heresy and still calling themselves
Christians.
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
And why did the commander say "Kill them all and let
God sort them out"? Because there were both Catholics
and Cathars in the city, and he was being asked how the
soldiers could tell the good guys from the "bad" ones.
Correct.
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
(where "bad" means "believing something we don't
want you to believe")
Well, they were pushing real heretical ideas all the while calling themselves
Christians.
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
The Abbot replied that they were to kill everybody,
because God would know which was which after
everyone -- men, women, and children -- were dead.
Correct.
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
By your claim about Christians and murderers, your
Pope, his Legate, and his entire army were filthy murdering atheists.
Nobody knows for sure. God never said anything about the Abbot's salvation.


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On Wed, 4 Oct 2017 15:04:55 -0700 (PDT), Atlatl Axolotl
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Post by duke
On Tue, 3 Oct 2017 21:02:05 -0700 (PDT), Atlatl Axolotl
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Post by duke
The ultimate filth of an atheist.
“Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius -
Kill them all for the Lord knoweth them that are His”
Often rendered as "Kill them all and let God sort them out".
Uttered by the Abbot of Citeaux, Arnaud Amalric, who
commanded the army sent by Pope "Innocent" III
to eliminate the Cathars.
God alone knows the true nature of that order. The status of the Abbot is
something only God knows.
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
True to the Papal legate's word, the Pope's army
fell on the town of Béziers and slaughtered its 20,000 inhabitants.
.> >Must have been the work of that "filthy atheist" Pope
.> >and his "filthy atheist" Abbot of a commander and
.> >their "filthy atheist" Papal army.
.> >> They were heretics in war..
.> >War? What "war"? You don't even know the history of your
.> >own church.
.> >There was no war. Your Pope "Innocent" [sic] III sent
.> >out an army to exterminate the Cathars. No one was
.> >at war.
.> The Cathars were living the life of heresy and still calling themselves
.> Christians.

So in Duke world ... Catholic world .. that justifies starting a
war and committing genocide?


.> >And why did the commander say "Kill them all and let
.> >God sort them out"? Because there were both Catholics
.> >and Cathars in the city, and he was being asked how the
.> >soldiers could tell the good guys from the "bad" ones.
.> Correct.
.> >(where "bad" means "believing something we don't
.> >want you to believe")
.> Well, they were pushing real heretical ideas all the while calling themselves
.> Christians.

So you're saying that makes it OK?
There are heretics today. Should good Catholics murder them
for daring to push "real heretical ideas all the while calling themselves
Christians"?

If you're saying that made it OK, then you're saying it would be
justified for you to kill Protestants.
Post by duke
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
The Abbot replied that they were to kill everybody,
because God would know which was which after
everyone -- men, women, and children -- were dead.
Correct.
.> >By your claim about Christians and murderers, your
.> >Pope, his Legate, and his entire army were filthy murdering atheists.
.> Nobody knows for sure.

Oh, you "knew for sure" that the asswipe in Las Vegas was an atheist,
because he murdered people. Therefore by this "reasoning" of yours,
so was the Pope and his army.

Or maybe you were simply wrong by declaring the jerkoff to be an
atheist, when if fact you have absolutely no knowledge about
him.

aa
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God never said anything about the Abbot's salvation.
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duke
2017-10-06 18:19:17 UTC
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Post by duke
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Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Post by duke
On Tue, 3 Oct 2017 21:02:05 -0700 (PDT), Atlatl Axolotl
Post by duke
The ultimate filth of an atheist.
“Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius -
Kill them all for the Lord knoweth them that are His”
Often rendered as "Kill them all and let God sort them out".
Uttered by the Abbot of Citeaux, Arnaud Amalric, who
commanded the army sent by Pope "Innocent" III
to eliminate the Cathars.
God alone knows the true nature of that order. The status of the Abbot is
something only God knows.
True to the Papal legate's word, the Pope's army
fell on the town of Béziers and slaughtered its 20,000 inhabitants.
.> >Must have been the work of that "filthy atheist" Pope
.> >and his "filthy atheist" Abbot of a commander and
.> >their "filthy atheist" Papal army.
.> >> They were heretics in war..
.> >War? What "war"? You don't even know the history of your
.> >own church.
.> >There was no war. Your Pope "Innocent" [sic] III sent
.> >out an army to exterminate the Cathars. No one was
.> >at war.
.> The Cathars were living the life of heresy and still calling themselves
.> Christians.
So in Duke world ... Catholic world .. that justifies starting a
war and committing genocide?
This wasn't in the US in 2017.
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
.> >And why did the commander say "Kill them all and let
.> >God sort them out"? Because there were both Catholics
.> >and Cathars in the city, and he was being asked how the
.> >soldiers could tell the good guys from the "bad" ones.
.> Correct.
.> >(where "bad" means "believing something we don't
.> >want you to believe")
.> Well, they were pushing real heretical ideas all the while calling themselves
.> Christians.
So you're saying that makes it OK?
NOT ok.
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
There are heretics today. Should good Catholics murder them
for daring to push "real heretical ideas all the while calling themselves
Christians"?
This is now, that was then.
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
If you're saying that made it OK, then you're saying it would be
justified for you to kill Protestants.
SO you saying it was ok.
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Oh, you "knew for sure" that the asswipe in Las Vegas was an atheist,
because he murdered people.
Mass murder, in direct contradiction to the teachings of Jesus to love. You
profess to be an atheist, and he reflects it by his actions. Welcome your
friend.


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Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Post by duke
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Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Post by duke
The ultimate filth of an atheist.
“Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius -
Kill them all for the Lord knoweth them that are His”
Often rendered as "Kill them all and let God sort them out".
Uttered by the Abbot of Citeaux, Arnaud Amalric, who
commanded the army sent by Pope "Innocent" III
to eliminate the Cathars.
God alone knows the true nature of that order. The status of the Abbot is
something only God knows.
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
True to the Papal legate's word, the Pope's army
fell on the town of Béziers and slaughtered its 20,000 inhabitants.
.> >Must have been the work of that "filthy atheist" Pope
.> >and his "filthy atheist" Abbot of a commander and
.> >their "filthy atheist" Papal army.
.> >> They were heretics in war..
.> >War? What "war"? You don't even know the history of your
.> >own church.
.> >There was no war. Your Pope "Innocent" [sic] III sent
.> >out an army to exterminate the Cathars. No one was
.> >at war.
.> The Cathars were living the life of heresy and still calling themselves
.> Christians.
So in Duke world ... Catholic world .. that justifies starting a
war and committing genocide?
This wasn't in the US in 2017.
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
.> >And why did the commander say "Kill them all and let
.> >God sort them out"? Because there were both Catholics
.> >and Cathars in the city, and he was being asked how the
.> >soldiers could tell the good guys from the "bad" ones.
.> Correct.
.> >(where "bad" means "believing something we don't
.> >want you to believe")
.> Well, they were pushing real heretical ideas all the while calling themselves
.> Christians.
So you're saying that makes it OK?
NOT ok.
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
There are heretics today. Should good Catholics murder them
for daring to push "real heretical ideas all the while calling themselves
Christians"?
This is now, that was then.
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
If you're saying that made it OK, then you're saying it would be
justified for you to kill Protestants.
SO you saying it was ok.
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Oh, you "knew for sure" that the asswipe in Las Vegas was an atheist,
because he murdered people.
Mass murder, in direct contradiction to the teachings of Jesus to love. You
profess to be an atheist, and he reflects it by his actions. Welcome your
friend.
Lessee...what will be Earl's Lie of the Day?...

Oh, here it is, right here: "You profess to be an atheist".

Lie on, Earl, lie on...


aa
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Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Post by duke
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Post by duke
The ultimate filth of an atheist.
“Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius -
Kill them all for the Lord knoweth them that are His”
Often rendered as "Kill them all and let God sort them out".
Uttered by the Abbot of Citeaux, Arnaud Amalric, who
commanded the army sent by Pope "Innocent" III
to eliminate the Cathars.
God alone knows the true nature of that order. The status of the Abbot is
something only God knows.
True to the Papal legate's word, the Pope's army
fell on the town of Béziers and slaughtered its 20,000 inhabitants.
.> >Must have been the work of that "filthy atheist" Pope
.> >and his "filthy atheist" Abbot of a commander and
.> >their "filthy atheist" Papal army.
.> >> They were heretics in war..
.> >War? What "war"? You don't even know the history of your
.> >own church.
.> >There was no war. Your Pope "Innocent" [sic] III sent
.> >out an army to exterminate the Cathars. No one was
.> >at war.
.> The Cathars were living the life of heresy and still calling themselves
.> Christians.
So in Duke world ... Catholic world .. that justifies starting a
war and committing genocide?
This wasn't in the US in 2017.
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
.> >And why did the commander say "Kill them all and let
.> >God sort them out"? Because there were both Catholics
.> >and Cathars in the city, and he was being asked how the
.> >soldiers could tell the good guys from the "bad" ones.
.> Correct.
.> >(where "bad" means "believing something we don't
.> >want you to believe")
.> Well, they were pushing real heretical ideas all the while calling themselves
.> Christians.
So you're saying that makes it OK?
NOT ok.
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
There are heretics today. Should good Catholics murder them
for daring to push "real heretical ideas all the while calling themselves
Christians"?
This is now, that was then.
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
If you're saying that made it OK, then you're saying it would be
justified for you to kill Protestants.
SO you saying it was ok.
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Oh, you "knew for sure" that the asswipe in Las Vegas was an atheist,
because he murdered people.
Mass murder, in direct contradiction to the teachings of Jesus to love. You
profess to be an atheist, and he reflects it by his actions. Welcome your
friend.
Lessee...what will be Earl's Lie of the Day?...
You now trying to say you are not an atheist?


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Post by duke
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Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Post by duke
The ultimate filth of an atheist.
“Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius -
Kill them all for the Lord knoweth them that are His”
Often rendered as "Kill them all and let God sort them out".
Uttered by the Abbot of Citeaux, Arnaud Amalric, who
commanded the army sent by Pope "Innocent" III
to eliminate the Cathars.
God alone knows the true nature of that order. The status of the Abbot is
something only God knows.
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
True to the Papal legate's word, the Pope's army
fell on the town of Béziers and slaughtered its 20,000 inhabitants.
.> >Must have been the work of that "filthy atheist" Pope
.> >and his "filthy atheist" Abbot of a commander and
.> >their "filthy atheist" Papal army.
.> >> They were heretics in war..
.> >War? What "war"? You don't even know the history of your
.> >own church.
.> >There was no war. Your Pope "Innocent" [sic] III sent
.> >out an army to exterminate the Cathars. No one was
.> >at war.
.> The Cathars were living the life of heresy and still calling themselves
.> Christians.
So in Duke world ... Catholic world .. that justifies starting a
war and committing genocide?
This wasn't in the US in 2017.
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
.> >And why did the commander say "Kill them all and let
.> >God sort them out"? Because there were both Catholics
.> >and Cathars in the city, and he was being asked how the
.> >soldiers could tell the good guys from the "bad" ones.
.> Correct.
.> >(where "bad" means "believing something we don't
.> >want you to believe")
.> Well, they were pushing real heretical ideas all the while calling themselves
.> Christians.
So you're saying that makes it OK?
NOT ok.
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
There are heretics today. Should good Catholics murder them
for daring to push "real heretical ideas all the while calling themselves
Christians"?
This is now, that was then.
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
If you're saying that made it OK, then you're saying it would be
justified for you to kill Protestants.
SO you saying it was ok.
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Oh, you "knew for sure" that the asswipe in Las Vegas was an atheist,
because he murdered people.
.> >> Mass murder, in direct contradiction to the teachings of Jesus to love. You
.> >> profess to be an atheist, and he reflects it by his actions. Welcome your
.> >> friend.
.> >Lessee...what will be Earl's Lie of the Day?...
.> You now trying to say you are not an atheist?

You mean just like the other times I've said that I'm not an atheist?

Yes. Just like that.

Welcome to the party.


Atlatl

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2017-10-04 22:15:24 UTC
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Post by duke
The ultimate filth of an atheist.
“Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius -
Kill them all for the Lord knoweth them that are His”
Often rendered as "Kill them all and let God sort them out".
Uttered by the Abbot of Citeaux, Arnaud Amalric, who
commanded the army sent by Pope "Innocent" III
to eliminate the Cathars.
God alone knows the true nature of that order. The status of the Abbot is
something only God knows.
But you know the shooter's status.

What if he were insane, and therefore not culpable?
Do you know? How?

You are judging, based on very sketchy information,
which your religion specifically demands you not do.

Hypocritical pharisee.

Kevin R
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Post by duke
The ultimate filth of an atheist.
“Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius -
Kill them all for the Lord knoweth them that are His”
Often rendered as "Kill them all and let God sort them out".
Uttered by the Abbot of Citeaux, Arnaud Amalric, who
commanded the army sent by Pope "Innocent" III
to eliminate the Cathars.
God alone knows the true nature of that order. The status of the Abbot is
something only God knows.
But you know the shooter's status.
Only by virtue of the revelations of the actions.
Post by Kevrob
What if he were insane, and therefore not culpable?
Do you know? How?
Only God knows. I am only commenting on what we see and "think" we know of God.
Post by Kevrob
You are judging, based on very sketchy information,
which your religion specifically demands you not do.
Hypocritical pharisee.
I am not judging. I am commenting on a very sorry affair. The punishment or
lack thereof comes from the Judge, God almighty.
Post by Kevrob
Kevin R
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2017-10-04 04:48:17 UTC
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The ultimate filth of an atheist.
The above is the result of a Christian upbringing. All Earl knows is
hatred, bigotry and ignorance. He doesn't even know what religion the
killer belonged to. He could have been Roman Catholic like Earl says
he is.
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John Locke
2017-10-04 14:37:07 UTC
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The ultimate filth of an atheist.
The above is the result of a Christian upbringing. All Earl knows is
hatred, bigotry and ignorance. He doesn't even know what religion the
killer belonged to. He could have been Roman Catholic like Earl says
he is.
...making bold ass, bigoted, unfounded claims is typical of theists.
They'll go to any lengths to denigrate atheists whom they perceive are
a direct threat to their religious delusions.
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Post by duke
The ultimate filth of an atheist.
The above is the result of a Christian upbringing. All Earl knows is
hatred, bigotry and ignorance. He doesn't even know what religion the
killer belonged to. He could have been Roman Catholic like Earl says
he is.
...making bold ass, bigoted, unfounded claims is typical of theists.
They'll go to any lengths to denigrate atheists whom they perceive are
a direct threat to their religious delusions.
Unless they're just using us to get some desperately needed attention.
Probably both.
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Post by duke
The ultimate filth of an atheist.
The above is the result of a Christian upbringing. All Earl knows is
hatred, bigotry and ignorance. He doesn't even know what religion the
killer belonged to. He could have been Roman Catholic like Earl says
he is.
...making bold ass, bigoted, unfounded claims is typical of theists.
They'll go to any lengths to denigrate atheists whom they perceive are
a direct threat to their religious delusions.
Unless they're just using us to get some desperately needed attention.
Probably both.
He was your people - an atheist with no use for God.

the dukester, American-American


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Atlatl Axolotl
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The ultimate filth of an atheist.
The above is the result of a Christian upbringing. All Earl knows is
hatred, bigotry and ignorance. He doesn't even know what religion the
killer belonged to. He could have been Roman Catholic like Earl says
he is.
...making bold ass, bigoted, unfounded claims is typical of theists.
They'll go to any lengths to denigrate atheists whom they perceive are
a direct threat to their religious delusions.
Unless they're just using us to get some desperately needed attention.
Probably both.
.> He was your people - an atheist with no use for God.

What's so funny here is how perfect an example of what
Earl keeps demanding we prove -- that he lies. "on the ng".

You declare the man to be an atheist, and you don't have
any way at all of knowing what he believed or did not believe.
He could be one of those 15 or 20 percent of Americans who
just don't care one way or the other. He could be an agnostic.
He could be someone for whom the question wasn't important.
He could be a convert to Hinduism. He could be a New Ager.
You have no idea -- nor, at this point, does anyone else.

And yet you firmly declare him to be an atheist. Another day, another lie from Earl.

Not that you care.


A2
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The ultimate filth of an atheist.
The above is the result of a Christian upbringing. All Earl knows is
hatred, bigotry and ignorance. He doesn't even know what religion the
killer belonged to. He could have been Roman Catholic like Earl says
he is.
...making bold ass, bigoted, unfounded claims is typical of theists.
They'll go to any lengths to denigrate atheists whom they perceive are
a direct threat to their religious delusions.
Unless they're just using us to get some desperately needed attention.
Probably both.
.> He was your people - an atheist with no use for God.
What's so funny here is how perfect an example of what
Earl keeps demanding we prove -- that he lies. "on the ng".
You declare the man to be an atheist, and you don't have
any way at all of knowing what he believed or did not believe.
He could be one of those 15 or 20 percent of Americans who
just don't care one way or the other. He could be an agnostic.
He could be someone for whom the question wasn't important.
He could be a convert to Hinduism. He could be a New Ager.
You have no idea -- nor, at this point, does anyone else.
And yet you firmly declare him to be an atheist. Another day, another lie from Earl.
Not that you care.
A2
He was a gambler, and gamblers are notoriously superstitious.
Does that make him a New Ager, a follower of astrology and
other woo-woo?

How the frak would I know?

Kevin R
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Post by duke
The ultimate filth of an atheist.
The above is the result of a Christian upbringing. All Earl knows is
hatred, bigotry and ignorance. He doesn't even know what religion the
killer belonged to. He could have been Roman Catholic like Earl says
he is.
...making bold ass, bigoted, unfounded claims is typical of theists.
They'll go to any lengths to denigrate atheists whom they perceive are
a direct threat to their religious delusions.
Unless they're just using us to get some desperately needed attention.
Probably both.
.> He was your people - an atheist with no use for God.
What's so funny here is how perfect an example of what
Earl keeps demanding we prove -- that he lies. "on the ng".
I'm not lying.
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
You declare the man to be an atheist
I'm expressing my obvious conclusions based on the situation that was presented.
You don't know what "to judge" means.

Now he's an atheist - period - a cold blooded killer. He demonstrated that.
You, on the other hand, are an agnostic. There's a lot of love in your heart
which would never allow you to do what he did even thought you profess you are
unsure of God's existence. You are no atheist. His cold blooded murdering
leaves no doubt about his.
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
and you don't have
any way at all of knowing what he believed or did not believe.
He demonstrated it. Murder in cold blood.
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
He could be one of those 15 or 20 percent of Americans who
just don't care one way or the other. He could be an agnostic.
His actions make him an cold blooded murdering atheist. The only salvation for
him would be that brain tumor that screwed him all up to where he couldn't be
responsible for his actions.
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
He could be someone for whom the question wasn't important.
He could be a convert to Hinduism. He could be a New Ager.
You have no idea -- nor, at this point, does anyone else.
He's an atheist - no use for God at all..
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
And yet you firmly declare him to be an atheist. Another day, another lie from Earl.
Not that you care.
A2
Ah, you'll grow up and figure it out.

the dukester, American-American


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The ultimate filth of an atheist.
The above is the result of a Christian upbringing. All Earl knows is
hatred, bigotry and ignorance. He doesn't even know what religion the
killer belonged to. He could have been Roman Catholic like Earl says
he is.
...making bold ass, bigoted, unfounded claims is typical of theists.
They'll go to any lengths to denigrate atheists whom they perceive are
a direct threat to their religious delusions.
They are offended by our very existence.
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Post by duke
The ultimate filth of an atheist.
The above is the result of a Christian upbringing. All Earl knows is
hatred, bigotry and ignorance. He doesn't even know what religion the
killer belonged to. He could have been Roman Catholic like Earl says
he is.
...making bold ass, bigoted, unfounded claims is typical of theists.
They'll go to any lengths to denigrate atheists whom they perceive are
a direct threat to their religious delusions.
They are offended by our very existence.
Paddock's father, a bank robber and con man, used to pose
as a minister when running his various schemes.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/10/02/stephen_paddock_s_father_patrick_benjamin_paddock_was_a_bank_robber_wanted.html

No new report I've looked at has mentioned any religion, philosophy
or political motive for Paddock's killing spree.

Kevin R
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Post by hypatiab7
Post by duke
The ultimate filth of an atheist.
The above is the result of a Christian upbringing. All Earl knows is
hatred, bigotry and ignorance. He doesn't even know what religion the
killer belonged to. He could have been Roman Catholic like Earl says
he is.
...making bold ass, bigoted, unfounded claims is typical of theists.
They'll go to any lengths to denigrate atheists whom they perceive are
a direct threat to their religious delusions.
They are offended by our very existence.
Paddock's father, a bank robber and con man, used to pose
as a minister when running his various schemes.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/10/02/stephen_paddock_s_father_patrick_benjamin_paddock_was_a_bank_robber_wanted.html
No new report I've looked at has mentioned any religion, philosophy
or political motive for Paddock's killing spree.
And you of all people know that what was in his heart is the key.
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Kevin R
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Post by hypatiab7
Post by duke
The ultimate filth of an atheist.
The above is the result of a Christian upbringing. All Earl knows is
hatred, bigotry and ignorance. He doesn't even know what religion the
killer belonged to. He could have been Roman Catholic like Earl says
he is.
...making bold ass, bigoted, unfounded claims is typical of theists.
They'll go to any lengths to denigrate atheists whom they perceive are
a direct threat to their religious delusions.
They are offended by our very existence.
Paddock's father, a bank robber and con man, used to pose
as a minister when running his various schemes.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/10/02/stephen_paddock_s_father_patrick_benjamin_paddock_was_a_bank_robber_wanted.html
No new report I've looked at has mentioned any religion, philosophy
or political motive for Paddock's killing spree.
He _was_ a mailman once. Isn't that basic training for going postal?
--
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
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Post by duke
The ultimate filth of an atheist.
The above is the result of a Christian upbringing. All Earl knows is
hatred, bigotry and ignorance. He doesn't even know what religion the
killer belonged to. He could have been Roman Catholic like Earl says
he is.
...making bold ass, bigoted, unfounded claims is typical of theists.
They'll go to any lengths to denigrate atheists whom they perceive are
a direct threat to their religious delusions.
They are offended by our very existence.
Not me. I'm not at all offended by your existence. I welcome it.

Your existence adds confirmation to my salvation.

I would explain it to you, but I already know you would never understand it.

The fact that we are polar opposites apart, in the grand scheme of things,
is all you need to know. Right/wrong, good/evil, yin/yang, Heaven/Hell.
It's all woven into the very fabric of the Universe. There's no escaping it.
Are you starting to get the picture? (Probably not.)

Anyway, I really mean it when I say thank you for being here.
--
The unregenerate non-elect will always believe what another unregenerate
non-elect says, whereas the regenerate chosen elect will intrinsically
recognize what the unregenerate non-elect says as a lie. Therefore those
who were predestined for Hell, will still end up in Hell, and those who
are predestined for Heaven are still going to go to Heaven. Nothing in
God's plan will change. For by convincing other unregenerate non-elects
to believe his lies, he is fulfilling that part of God's plan that God
has predestined just for him.

Or, as the Gospel of John very concisely puts it:
"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the
door but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief and a robber.
But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. To him the
gatekeeper opens. The sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep
by name and leads them out. When he has brought out all his own, he
goes before them, and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. A
stranger they will not follow, but they will flee from him, for they do
not know the voice of strangers."
[John 10:1-5]
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Post by duke
The ultimate filth of an atheist.
The above is the result of a Christian upbringing. All Earl knows is
hatred, bigotry and ignorance. He doesn't even know what religion the
killer belonged to. He could have been Roman Catholic like Earl says
he is.
...making bold ass, bigoted, unfounded claims is typical of theists.
They'll go to any lengths to denigrate atheists whom they perceive are
a direct threat to their religious delusions.
They are offended by our very existence.
Not me. I'm not at all offended by your existence. I welcome it.
Your existence adds confirmation to my salvation.
If I were still a Christian, i'd suggest you needed a dose of Luke 18:11

[quote]

He then addressed this parable to those who were convinced of their
own righteousness and despised everyone else. “Two people went up to the
temple area to pray; one was a Pharisee and the other was a tax collector.
The Pharisee took up his position and spoke this prayer to himself, ‘O God,
I thank you that I am not like the rest of humanity—greedy, dishonest,
adulterous—or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week, and I
pay tithes on my whole income.’ But the tax collector stood off at
a distance and would not even raise his eyes to heaven but beat his breast
and prayed, ‘O God, be merciful to me a sinner.’ I tell you, the latter
went home justified, not the former; for everyone who exalts himself will
be humbled, and the one who humbles himself will be exalted.”

[/quote] - http://www.usccb.org/bible/luke/18

Now, Duncan may give you a disquisition on election v salvation by
faith and/or works, and I think any of those explanations are bunk.
But his babble is telling him not to set himself above others,
which he clearly does when he trumpets his (unevidenced) election.

Kevin R
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Post by hypatiab7
Post by duke
The ultimate filth of an atheist.
The above is the result of a Christian upbringing. All Earl knows is
hatred, bigotry and ignorance. He doesn't even know what religion the
killer belonged to. He could have been Roman Catholic like Earl says
he is.
...making bold ass, bigoted, unfounded claims is typical of theists.
They'll go to any lengths to denigrate atheists whom they perceive are
a direct threat to their religious delusions.
They are offended by our very existence.
Not me. I'm not at all offended by your existence. I welcome it.
Your existence adds confirmation to my salvation.
If I were still a Christian, i'd suggest you needed a dose of Luke 18:11
[quote]
He then addressed this parable to those who were convinced of their
own righteousness and despised everyone else. “Two people went up to the
temple area to pray; one was a Pharisee and the other was a tax collector.
The Pharisee took up his position and spoke this prayer to himself, ‘O God,
I thank you that I am not like the rest of humanity—greedy, dishonest,
adulterous—or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week, and I
pay tithes on my whole income.’ But the tax collector stood off at
a distance and would not even raise his eyes to heaven but beat his breast
and prayed, ‘O God, be merciful to me a sinner.’ I tell you, the latter
went home justified, not the former; for everyone who exalts himself will
be humbled, and the one who humbles himself will be exalted.”
[/quote] - http://www.usccb.org/bible/luke/18
Now, Duncan may give you a disquisition on election v salvation by
faith and/or works, and I think any of those explanations are bunk.
But his babble is telling him not to set himself above others,
which he clearly does when he trumpets his (unevidenced) election.
The only election he has, is the one before bleakfast.
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Kevin R
And they imagine being called mentally ill is "arguing by insult"
rather than a remarkably obvious conclusion.
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Post by hypatiab7
Post by duke
The ultimate filth of an atheist.
The above is the result of a Christian upbringing. All Earl knows is
hatred, bigotry and ignorance. He doesn't even know what religion the
killer belonged to. He could have been Roman Catholic like Earl says
he is.
...making bold ass, bigoted, unfounded claims is typical of theists.
They'll go to any lengths to denigrate atheists whom they perceive are
a direct threat to their religious delusions.
They are offended by our very existence.
Not me. I'm not at all offended by your existence. I welcome it.
Your existence adds confirmation to my salvation.
If I were still a Christian, i'd suggest you needed a dose of Luke 18:11
[quote]
He then addressed this parable to those who were convinced of their
own righteousness and despised everyone else. “Two people went up to the
temple area to pray; one was a Pharisee and the other was a tax collector.
The Pharisee took up his position and spoke this prayer to himself, ‘O God,
I thank you that I am not like the rest of humanity—greedy, dishonest,
adulterous—or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week, and I
pay tithes on my whole income.’ But the tax collector stood off at
a distance and would not even raise his eyes to heaven but beat his breast
and prayed, ‘O God, be merciful to me a sinner.’ I tell you, the latter
went home justified, not the former; for everyone who exalts himself will
be humbled, and the one who humbles himself will be exalted.”
[/quote] - http://www.usccb.org/bible/luke/18
Now, Duncan may give you a disquisition on election v salvation by
faith and/or works, and I think any of those explanations are bunk.
But his babble is telling him not to set himself above others,
which he clearly does when he trumpets his (unevidenced) election.
Nope, you're wrong.

Thanks for proving that you don't know what you're pretending to know.

"So, dear brothers and sisters, work hard to prove that you really are among
those God has called and chosen. Do these things, and you will never
fall away."
[2 Peter 1:10]

Why do you enjoy wasting your time so much?

Now you'll go away and leave me alone for two or three weeks, or until you
think I've forgotten about this. Then you'll come back and do some more
pretending. But it's not going to work. You're wasting your time,
little one.

But I'll be here when you think you're ready. And I'll put you in your spot,
again. Like I always have, and I always will.

See ya later, chump.

<smirk>
--
The unregenerate non-elect will always believe what another unregenerate
non-elect says, whereas the regenerate chosen elect will intrinsically
recognize what the unregenerate non-elect says as a lie. Therefore those
who were predestined for Hell, will still end up in Hell, and those who
are predestined for Heaven are still going to go to Heaven. Nothing in
God's plan will change. For by convincing other unregenerate non-elects
to believe his lies, he is fulfilling that part of God's plan that God
has predestined just for him.

Or, as the Gospel of John very concisely puts it:
"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the
door but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief and a robber.
But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. To him the
gatekeeper opens. The sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep
by name and leads them out. When he has brought out all his own, he
goes before them, and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. A
stranger they will not follow, but they will flee from him, for they do
not know the voice of strangers."
[John 10:1-5]
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Post by duke
The ultimate filth of an atheist.
The above is the result of a Christian upbringing. All Earl knows is
hatred, bigotry and ignorance. He doesn't even know what religion the
killer belonged to. He could have been Roman Catholic like Earl says
he is.
...making bold ass, bigoted, unfounded claims is typical of theists.
They'll go to any lengths to denigrate atheists whom they perceive are
a direct threat to their religious delusions.
They are offended by our very existence.
Not me. I'm not at all offended by your existence. I welcome it.
Your existence adds confirmation to my salvation.
If I were still a Christian, i'd suggest you needed a dose of Luke 18:11
[quote]
He then addressed this parable to those who were convinced of their
own righteousness and despised everyone else. “Two people went up to the
temple area to pray; one was a Pharisee and the other was a tax collector.
The Pharisee took up his position and spoke this prayer to himself, ‘O God,
I thank you that I am not like the rest of humanity—greedy, dishonest,
adulterous—or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week, and I
pay tithes on my whole income.’ But the tax collector stood off at
a distance and would not even raise his eyes to heaven but beat his breast
and prayed, ‘O God, be merciful to me a sinner.’ I tell you, the latter
went home justified, not the former; for everyone who exalts himself will
be humbled, and the one who humbles himself will be exalted.”
[/quote] - http://www.usccb.org/bible/luke/18
Now, Duncan may give you a disquisition on election v salvation by
faith and/or works, and I think any of those explanations are bunk.
But his babble is telling him not to set himself above others,
which he clearly does when he trumpets his (unevidenced) election.
Nope, you're wrong.
Thanks for proving that you don't know what you're pretending to know.
"So, dear brothers and sisters, work hard to prove that you really are among
those God has called and chosen. Do these things, and you will never
fall away."
[2 Peter 1:10]
Why do you enjoy wasting your time so much?
Now you'll go away and leave me alone for two or three weeks, or until you
think I've forgotten about this. Then you'll come back and do some more
pretending. But it's not going to work. You're wasting your time,
little one.
....and where does it say you should shoot off your mouth or
keyboard about your election and denigrate we unregenerated ones?
Post by Bob
But I'll be here when you think you're ready. And I'll put you in your spot,
again. Like I always have, and I always will.
See ya later, chump.
Take your proselytizing, troll self elsewhere, Duncan.
You are continually off-charter for the group.

Yes, you say you aren't trying to change anyone's mind.
Which make posting here make even less sense than it would
if you were. I can only conclude that you are just boasting
and bragging about a status you Calvinists don't even think
you deserve: it is all praise to Yahooey, not to any
actually existing beings, or is supposed to be, no?

I'm sure Aztec and Maya priests thought they were the
favorites of their ghodz, too. It is all buncombe.

Kevin R
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Nope, you're wrong.
Thanks for proving that you don't know what you're pretending to know.
"So, dear brothers and sisters, work hard to prove that you really are among
those God has called and chosen. Do these things, and you will never
fall away."
[2 Peter 1:10]
Why do you enjoy wasting your time so much?
Now you'll go away and leave me alone for two or three weeks, or until you
think I've forgotten about this. Then you'll come back and do some more
pretending. But it's not going to work. You're wasting your time,
little one.
....and where does it say you should shoot off your mouth or
keyboard about your election and denigrate we unregenerated ones?
So you admit then that you were wrong about your first allegation.

Apology accepted.

You can find the answer to your second allegation at 1 Peter 3:15.

In other words, if you wouldn't "shoot off your mouth or keyboard" first, I
would have no reason to say anything to you.

But you love to pretend that you're the victim, don't you?
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Post by Bob
But I'll be here when you think you're ready. And I'll put you in your spot,
again. Like I always have, and I always will.
See ya later, chump.
Take your proselytizing elsewhere, Duncan.
You're wasting your time, again.

I'm not proselytizing. You are.
--
The unregenerate non-elect will always believe what another unregenerate
non-elect says, whereas the regenerate chosen elect will intrinsically
recognize what the unregenerate non-elect says as a lie. Therefore those
who were predestined for Hell, will still end up in Hell, and those who
are predestined for Heaven are still going to go to Heaven. Nothing in
God's plan will change. For by convincing other unregenerate non-elects
to believe his lies, he is fulfilling that part of God's plan that God
has predestined just for him.

Or, as the Gospel of John very concisely puts it:
"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the
door but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief and a robber.
But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. To him the
gatekeeper opens. The sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep
by name and leads them out. When he has brought out all his own, he
goes before them, and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. A
stranger they will not follow, but they will flee from him, for they do
not know the voice of strangers."
[John 10:1-5]
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....and where does it say you should shoot off your mouth or
keyboard about your election and denigrate we unregenerated ones?
So you admit then that you were wrong about your first allegation.
I admit nothing. That quote wasn't germane to the "pharisee's prayer."
Post by Bob
Apology accepted.
None was given.
Post by Bob
You can find the answer to your second allegation at 1 Peter 3:15.
[quote]
Simply proclaim the Lord Christ holy in your hearts, ....

[/quote]

so, "in your hearts" doens't mean "proclaim" it inwardly?

[quote]

...and always have your answer ready for people who ask you

[/quote]

..but nobody here is asking you, troll. You start threads blabbering
about your Calvinist viewpoint when no one asks anything.

[quote]
....the reason for the hope that you have.

[/quote]

Your "reasons" are spurious and feeble. They boil down to
"Somehow, I know I'm special and you suck," `cause ghod says so,
without any proof of such communication from that fictional entity.

http://www.catholic.org/bible/book.php?id=67&bible_chapter=3
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In other words, if you wouldn't "shoot off your mouth or keyboard" first, I
would have no reason to say anything to you.
You have no reason to troll this group at all.
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But you love to pretend that you're the victim, don't you?
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Take your proselytizing elsewhere, Duncan.
You're wasting your time, again.
I'm not proselytizing. You are.
eve his lies, he is fulfilling that part of God's plan that God
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has predestined just for him.
I'm not trying to convince you to change your mind, I'm
trying to get you to stop trolling. I imagined pointing
out the types of hypocrisy Joshie was supposed to dislike
in your attitude, hoping to shame you by the standards of most
Christians. Your standards seem to be nothing but bile and
hatred for the alleged "non-elect" and are quite the contrast
with some believers I know who seemed to actually be motivated by
agape/caritas - love.

[quote]

God is love, and whoever remains in love remains in God and God in him.

[/quote] John 4:16

http://www.usccb.org/bible/1john/4

The version of ghod the Calvinist/Reformed/Presbyterian bunch have
cooked up seems to be more about hate than love: creating beings
full well knowing they will be destroyed or tortured eternally
because they weren't selected to be in the elite.

That's one sick, monster mofo!

(And if the stories about the incarnation were true, Joshie
would, in fact, be a mofo.)

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....and where does it say you should shoot off your mouth or
keyboard about your election and denigrate we unregenerated ones?
So you admit then that you were wrong about your first allegation.
I admit nothing.
Neither does it have anything to do with 2 Peter 1:10. You avoided
that like the plague. I take that as your admission to defeat.

Apology accepted.
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If you wouldn't "shoot off your mouth or keyboard" first, I
would have no reason to say anything to you.
You have no reason to troll this group at all.
That's just your bogus accusation. I believe I do.
You call it trolling because you don't like what I write.
That's your problem, not mine.
I suggest you get used to it, chump.
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But you love to pretend that you're the victim, don't you?
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Take your proselytizing elsewhere, Duncan.
You're wasting your time, again.
I'm not proselytizing. You are.
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non-elect says, whereas the regenerate chosen elect will intrinsically
recognize what the unregenerate non-elect says as a lie. Therefore those
who were predestined for Hell, will still end up in Hell, and those who
are predestined for Heaven are still going to go to Heaven. Nothing in
God's plan will change. For by convincing other unregenerate non-elects
to believe his lies, he is fulfilling that part of God's plan that God
has predestined just for him.

Or, as the Gospel of John very concisely puts it:
"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the
door but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief and a robber.
But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. To him the
gatekeeper opens. The sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep
by name and leads them out. When he has brought out all his own, he
goes before them, and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. A
stranger they will not follow, but they will flee from him, for they do
not know the voice of strangers."
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The ultimate filth of an atheist.
The above is the result of a Christian upbringing. All Earl knows is
hatred, bigotry and ignorance. He doesn't even know what religion the
killer belonged to. He could have been Roman Catholic like Earl says
he is.
...making bold ass, bigoted, unfounded claims is typical of theists.
They'll go to any lengths to denigrate atheists whom they perceive are
a direct threat to their religious delusions.
They are offended by our very existence.
Not me. I'm not at all offended by your existence. I welcome it.
Your existence adds confirmation to my salvation.
I would explain it to you, but I already know you would never understand it.
The fact that we are polar opposites apart, in the grand scheme of things,
is all you need to know. Right/wrong, good/evil, yin/yang, Heaven/Hell.
It's all woven into the very fabric of the Universe. There's no escaping it.
Are you starting to get the picture? (Probably not.)
Anyway, I really mean it when I say thank you for being here.
They sure keep us on our toes.

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The ultimate filth of an atheist.
The above is the result of a Christian upbringing. All Earl knows is
hatred, bigotry and ignorance. He doesn't even know what religion the
killer belonged to. He could have been Roman Catholic like Earl says
he is.
...making bold ass, bigoted, unfounded claims is typical of theists.
They'll go to any lengths to denigrate atheists whom they perceive are
a direct threat to their religious delusions.
They are offended by our very existence.
You should learn to love. After all, it is what Jesus commanded of us.

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The ultimate filth of an atheist.
The above is the result of a Christian upbringing. All Earl knows is
hatred, bigotry and ignorance. He doesn't even know what religion the
killer belonged to. He could have been Roman Catholic like Earl says
he is.
...making bold ass, bigoted, unfounded claims is typical of theists.
They'll go to any lengths to denigrate atheists whom they perceive are
a direct threat to their religious delusions.
They are offended by our very existence.
You should learn to love. After all, it is what Jesus commanded of us.
You first, Dork.

PDW
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The ultimate filth of an atheist.
The above is the result of a Christian upbringing. All Earl knows is
hatred, bigotry and ignorance. He doesn't even know what religion the
killer belonged to. He could have been Roman Catholic like Earl says
he is.
...making bold ass, bigoted, unfounded claims is typical of theists.
The man was satan in his heart.


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The ultimate filth of an atheist.
The above is the result of a Christian upbringing. All Earl knows is
hatred, bigotry and ignorance.
Not even a fallen away Jewess like you could survive God's judgment here.
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He doesn't even know what religion the
killer belonged to. He could have been Roman Catholic like Earl says
he is.
It has nothing to do with the religion but what is in his heart.

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The ultimate filth of an atheist.
I almost didn't reply because replying to Duke's hatred can be seen as using a tragedy to put out more hate, although I here I am trying to do the opposite.

Duke, you omit Timothy McVeigh, raised Roman Catholic. Here is a portion of a Time magazine interview with McVeigh:

"Time: Are you religious?

McVeigh: I was raised Catholic. I was confirmed Catholic (received the sacrament of confirmation). Through my military years, I sort of lost touch with the religion. I never really picked it up, however I do maintain core beliefs.

Time: Do you believe in God?

McVeigh: I do believe in a God, yes. But that's as far as I want to discuss. If I get too detailed on some things that are personal like that, it gives people an easier way [to] alienate themselves from me and that's all they are looking for now.

http://www.ethicsdaily.com/an-accurate-look-at-timothy-mcveighs-beliefs-cms-15532

And Duke, isn't Vladimir Putin a Russian Orthodox believer?

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The ultimate filth of an atheist.
I almost didn't reply because replying to Duke's hatred can be seen as using a tragedy to put out more hate, although I here I am trying to do the opposite.
It's not my hatred. It's the killers hatred for God, something only the most
savage of atheists could embrace.
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"Time: Are you religious?
McVeigh: I was raised Catholic. I was confirmed Catholic (received the sacrament of confirmation). Through my military years, I sort of lost touch with the religion. I never really picked it up, however I do maintain core beliefs.
Time: Do you believe in God?
McVeigh: I do believe in a God, yes. But that's as far as I want to discuss. If I get too detailed on some things that are personal like that, it gives people an easier way [to] alienate themselves from me and that's all they are looking for now.
Hatred was in his heart.

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Oh, look -- an article about Duke.


http://babylonbee.com/news/tragedy-forces-every-american-ask-can-bend-facts-support-preferred-narrative/


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Oh, look -- an article about Duke.
Not me. God is his judge. And I suspect he is already burning in hell.
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http://babylonbee.com/news/tragedy-forces-every-american-ask-can-bend-facts-support-preferred-narrative/
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FUCK you Earl.
You fat, stupid, vile, pig ignorant piece of shit.

FUCK your imaginary God and all the insane, misogynistic, brutish, crapola in your fictional bible.

You are a prime example of the kind of thinking that created the dark ages and kept people enslaved to a church based on hatred and stupidity for a thousand years.
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FUCK you Earl.
You fat, stupid, vile, pig ignorant piece of shit.
FUCK your imaginary God and all the insane, misogynistic, brutish, crapola in your fictional bible.
You are a prime example of the kind of thinking that created the dark ages and kept people enslaved to a church based on hatred and stupidity for a thousand years.
What's the matter, cloud. Afraid that you're going to find out that you are
really an agnostic and not an atheist. You are like so many others that just
can't come to grips with the idea that there is almighty God out there. But
that doesn't make you an atheist. You have love in your heart for others, or
family, for friends, for pets, for helping others, etc.

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FUCK you Earl.
You fat, stupid, vile, pig ignorant piece of shit.
FUCK your imaginary God and all the insane, misogynistic, brutish,
crapola in your fictional bible.
You are a prime example of the kind of thinking that created the dark
ages and kept people enslaved to a church based on hatred and stupidity
for a thousand years.
What's the matter, cloud. Afraid that you're going to find out that you
are really an agnostic and not an atheist. You are like so many others
that just can't come to grips with the idea that there is almighty God
out there.
Thanks for admitting that your supposed god is merely an idea, an
invention of the mind.
But that doesn't make you an atheist.
And believing in your supposed gods doesn't make you a Christian.
You have love in your
heart for others, or family, for friends, for pets, for helping others,
etc.
Good human qualities, unconnected with any god or religion, that you
appear to lack.
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FUCK you Earl.
You fat, stupid, vile, pig ignorant piece of shit.
FUCK your imaginary God and all the insane, misogynistic, brutish,
crapola in your fictional bible.
You are a prime example of the kind of thinking that created the dark
ages and kept people enslaved to a church based on hatred and stupidity
for a thousand years.
What's the matter, cloud. Afraid that you're going to find out that you
are really an agnostic and not an atheist. You are like so many others
that just can't come to grips with the idea that there is almighty God
out there.
Thanks for admitting that your supposed god is merely an idea, an
invention of the mind.
You're a weird person. I say this and you conclude that.
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But that doesn't make you an atheist.
And believing in your supposed gods doesn't make you a Christian.
Right, Christian baptism does.
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You have love in your
heart for others, or family, for friends, for pets, for helping others,
etc.
Good human qualities, unconnected with any god or religion, that you
appear to lack.
Qualities called to the front for those that believe in and follow God.
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Like a fly to a turd is the Duke to a tragedy.
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Like a fly to a turd is the Duke to a tragedy.
When it's an atheist doing cold blooded murder, I don't mind expressing my
feelings.

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The odds are he was a theist of some kind. just because one does not follow the bible the same way you do (or don't) does not make them an atheist.

Muslims are theists, so are Hindus and every other religion that posits a god or gods.

The odds are very good that he was some kind of theist.

Atheists don't believe there are any gods, so if paddock di, that makes him a theist.
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The odds are he was a theist of some kind.
You just don't get it, do you? A Christian accepts Jesus Christ as savior and
follows his commands to love and obey God and love his neighbor as he loves
himself.

This man demonstrated no love for God or for his neighbors, just a bullet.


just because one does not follow the bible the same way you do (or don't) does
not make them an atheist.
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Muslims are theists, so are Hindus and every other religion that posits a god or gods.
The odds are very good that he was some kind of theist.
Atheists don't believe there are any gods, so if paddock di, that makes him a theist.
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Oh hell, I almost forget to tell you what a piece of shit you are.

You're so shitty other shit moves away from you.
Judging by your girth, they are probably AFRAID OF BERING EATEN.
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Oh hell, I almost forget to tell you what a piece of shit you are.
You're so shitty other shit moves away from you.
Don't worry, agnostic, I consider the source.


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99.999% of gun nuts are born-again Christians.
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99.999% of gun nuts are born-again Christians.
And even the first birth was a mistake.
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99.999% of gun nuts are born-again Christians.
You must live up your ass.

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99.999% of gun nuts are born-again Christians.
You must live up your ass.
Now who's not following Jesus?

Is that the way Jesus would respond?

Are you obeying Jesus by responding in that manner?

If that's your idea of how a Christian should act, then your idea of a
Christian is not the same as the one found in the Bible.

You're not a Christian.
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99.999% of gun nuts are born-again Christians.
You must live up your ass.
Now who's not following Jesus?
I'm the one. People of God don't make arbitrary claims that "all" gun nuts are
born again Christians, or as Jesus taught us - Christians in our baptism.
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Is that the way Jesus would respond?
Are you obeying Jesus by responding in that manner?
If that's your idea of how a Christian should act, then your idea of a
Christian is not the same as the one found in the Bible.
You're not a Christian.
Oh, but between you and me, I'm the Christian.

MASS:
Do this in memory of me - Mat 26:26-29, Mark 14:22-26, Luke 22:14-20,
1Cor 11:23-25 (11-34).

SACRAMENTS:
1. Baptism - John 3:5-6, Mat 28:19, Hebrew 2:14-15
2. Holy Eucharist -Mat 26:26-29, Mark 14:22-26, Luke 22:14-20,
1Cor 11:23-25 (11-34).
3. Confession - John 20:22-23, 2 Cor 5:18-19, Mat 9:2-8
4. Matrimony - Mat 19:4-6, Mark 10:5-9, Ephesians 5:31
5. Confirmation - Ephesians 1:13-14, Acts 8:14-17, Acts 19:5-6,
6. Holy Orders - Acts 13:3 & 14:23, John 20:22, 1 & 2 Tim
7. Anointing of the Sick - Mark 6:12-13, John 5:14

PAPACY:
Mat 16:13-19 (Pope), Mat 28:16-20 (Teaching), Eph 2:19-20 (Base)

PURGATORY:
1 Cor 3:10-15

FAITH (without deeds is dead faith):
Mat 25:31-46, James 2:26
Feed the hungry.
Clothe the naked.
Give drink to the thirsty.
Visit the imprisoned.

Heal the sick.
Cast out demons.



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The ultimate filth of an atheist.
Ever see that movie "Clocking Off". Where a respectable businessman is driven berserk by a series of insults and frustrations? Or, in a milder key, "Clockwise".

I think most of these spree killers are like that, only on a slower burn.

They have a build up of undirected anger. At first they find some release in fantasy, which they then reinforce with a gun collection. And, in a minority of cases, the fantasy becomes reality. (I think it's perfectly safe for 95% of Americans to have automatic weapons, but it's the 5% that want to own them).

In the US it used to be called "Going Postal" because postal workers seemed particularly prone.

You don't need easy access to guns to go this way, but it certainly helps.

In the end its a failure of impulse control. Fenris breaks the magic cord and escapes, briefly, into the real world.
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Ever see that movie "Clocking Off".
Nope.



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