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Why can't God protect his churches?
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Davej
2017-11-07 11:54:21 UTC
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Because God doesn't give a shit. He isn't there.
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2017-11-07 13:00:49 UTC
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Because God doesn't give a shit. He isn't there.
He's not the police Chief.
Atlatl Axolotl
2017-11-07 15:33:13 UTC
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Because God doesn't give a shit. He isn't there.
He's not the police Chief.
Right. He tosses people into the Lake of Fire because he's a rogue vigilante.

AtlAxo
duke
2017-11-09 11:11:23 UTC
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Post by Davej
Because God doesn't give a shit. He isn't there.
He's not the police Chief.
Right. He tosses people into the Lake of Fire because he's a rogue vigilante.
Nope. You toss yourself into the lake by the way you live your life.

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John Locke
2017-11-07 16:40:11 UTC
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Because God doesn't give a shit. He isn't there.
He's not the police Chief.
...your alleged god most certainly IS the police chief. That's the
whole idea behind the Biblical myth of Moses and the Ten Commandments.
Moses was the enforcer. Your aleged god was the police chief.
Hey Mad Joe, did you fall asleep during Bible study classes ?
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2017-11-07 23:43:42 UTC
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Because God doesn't give a shit. He isn't there.
He's not the police Chief.
...your alleged god most certainly IS the police chief.
THAT'S A LIE


San Diego is launching a national search for the city's next police chief, who will replace Chief Shelley Zimmerman when she retires in March. San Diego is launching a national search for the city's next police chief, who will replace Chief Shelley Zimmerman when she retires in March.Aug 22, 2017
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2017-11-08 13:50:48 UTC
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Because God doesn't give a shit. He isn't there.
He's not the police Chief.
...your alleged god most certainly IS the police chief.=20
THAT'S A LIE
San Diego is launching a national search for the city's next police chief, =
who will replace Chief Shelley Zimmerman when she retires in March. San Die=
go is launching a national search for the city's next police chief, who wil=
l replace Chief Shelley Zimmerman when she retires in March.Aug 22, 2017
Where did John say anything about San Diego? Sheesh!
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Alex W.
2017-11-08 00:02:08 UTC
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Post by Davej
Because God doesn't give a shit. He isn't there.
He's not the police Chief.
...your alleged god most certainly IS the police chief. That's the
whole idea behind the Biblical myth of Moses and the Ten Commandments.
Moses was the enforcer. Your aleged god was the police chief.
Hey Mad Joe, did you fall asleep during Bible study classes ?
I go with vigilante: promulgator of arbitrary laws, judge of selfsame
laws, and arbitrary and capricious enforcer.
JTEM
2017-11-08 20:49:11 UTC
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Go on, quote them. Copy & paste a quote from
an actual church...
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Post by John Locke
...your alleged god most certainly IS the police chief. That's the
whole idea behind the Biblical myth of Moses and the Ten Commandments.
Moses was the enforcer. Your aleged god was the police chief.
Hey Mad Joe, did you fall asleep during Bible study classes ?
I go with vigilante: promulgator of arbitrary laws, judge of selfsame
laws, and arbitrary and capricious enforcer.
Do you two "Geniuses" know that not a single church
says this, or are you too busy performing "Rocket
Surgery" to realize that you're a couple of lunatics
inventing your reality on the fly?

Seriously, who but yourselves do you hope to convince?

Wait. Scratch that. Let me start over...

Seriously, who but yourselves do you hope to not look
like a bunch of idiots in front of?

This stupid, usually infantile & always WRONG
shit you keep spewing is archived, for Christ's
sake. You're not portraying atheists as
mangled-brained narcissists just for the few
lurkers who happen by today, but you're soiling
atheists for years to come.

Sit on your hands.

top posting.

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Yap Honghor
2017-11-08 00:49:37 UTC
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Because God doesn't give a shit. He isn't there.
He's not the police Chief.
It can't protect the believers because it is non-existent???
hypatiab7
2017-11-08 01:48:36 UTC
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Because God doesn't give a shit. He isn't there.
He's not the police Chief.
It can't protect the believers because it is non-existent???
Something that doesn't exist can't do anything. There's nothing there to
do anything.
hypatiab7
2017-11-07 13:05:23 UTC
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Because God doesn't give a shit. He isn't there.
Being non-existent might have had something to do with it.
duke
2017-11-07 22:13:16 UTC
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Because God doesn't give a shit. He isn't there.
Being non-existent might have had something to do with it.
The victims are in heaven.
The shooter is in hell.

the dukester, American-American


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Alex W.
2017-11-07 22:25:07 UTC
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Because God doesn't give a shit. He isn't there.
Being non-existent might have had something to do with it.
The victims are in heaven.
The shooter is in hell.
I thought you claimed to be Catholic.
Don't you know your catechism?

The victims were Baptists.
This means they were heretics and according to RCC doctrine are not in
heaven and will never go to heaven.
JTEM
2017-11-08 21:04:43 UTC
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So how low do you have to harvest the tragedy
of the Texas church shooting, exploit all the
suffering inflicted BY AN ATHEISTS in order to
attack the Catholic church...

There's something wrong with you. There's
something deeply disturbed in you.
Post by Alex W.
I thought you claimed to be Catholic.
Anyone can claim anything they want, but they're
a troll posting mostly fundamentalist Protestant
views while ascribing it to the Catholic church.
Post by Alex W.
Don't you know your catechism?
You clearly don't.
Post by Alex W.
The victims were Baptists.
This means they were heretics and according to RCC doctrine are not in
heaven and will never go to heaven.
That's not true at all. That is your interpretation,
what your autism spectrum, in your zeal to lash out
at others, is causing you to project onto the Catholic
church.

http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p123a9p3.htm

<Quote>
818 "However, one cannot charge with the sin of
the separation those who at present are born
into these communities [that resulted from such
separation] and in them are brought up in the
faith of Christ, and the Catholic Church accepts
them with respect and affection as brothers . . . .
</Quote>

Now, the Baptist church, on the other hand, insists
that Catholics follow a "False Doctrine" and are
hence doomed.

Maybe you should stop being a twisted psycho, as you
can't get anything right.





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Tim
2017-11-08 21:08:45 UTC
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So how low do you have to harvest the tragedy
of the Texas church shooting, exploit all the
suffering inflicted BY AN ATHEISTS in order to
attack the Catholic church...
Silly faggot, you don't believe atheists exist, LOL!
JTEM
2017-11-08 21:17:01 UTC
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Tim wrote:
[---zippo---]

You wish you could taste JTEM.

It's obvious... the way you follow me around,
hiding behind different handles, you're so
ashamed....




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Tim
2017-11-18 17:41:40 UTC
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[---zippo---]
You wish you could taste JTEM.
You filthy faggot, stop projecting your sexual fantasies, stool pusher.
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It's obvious... the way you follow me around,
hiding behind different handles, you're so
ashamed....
Fuck off, faggot.
A***@yahoo.com
2017-11-18 20:43:38 UTC
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[---zippo---]
You wish you could taste JTEM.
You filthy faggot, stop projecting your sexual fantasies, stool pusher.
Post by JTEM
It's obvious... the way you follow me around,
hiding behind different handles, you're so
ashamed....
Fuck off, faggot.
You got terribly angry and threw some emotional stones.
hypatiab7
2017-12-01 00:16:59 UTC
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[---zippo---]
You wish you could taste JTEM.
You filthy faggot, stop projecting your sexual fantasies, stool pusher.
Post by JTEM
It's obvious... the way you follow me around,
hiding behind different handles, you're so
ashamed....
Fuck off, faggot.
You got terribly angry and threw some emotional stones.
Emotional pebbles from the flanges of John Monkeyboi.
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2017-12-01 04:13:31 UTC
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[---zippo---]
You wish you could taste JTEM.
You filthy faggot, stop projecting your sexual fantasies, stool pusher.
Post by JTEM
It's obvious... the way you follow me around,
hiding behind different handles, you're so
ashamed....
Fuck off, faggot.
You got terribly angry and threw some emotional stones.
Emotional pebbles from the flanges of John Monkeyboi.
https://tinyurl.com/yd9udvlz
Kevrob
2017-12-01 00:54:29 UTC
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[---zippo---]
You wish you could taste JTEM.
You filthy faggot, stop projecting your sexual fantasies, stool pusher.
Post by JTEM
It's obvious... the way you follow me around,
hiding behind different handles, you're so
ashamed....
Fuck off, faggot.
McGuinness can be as bent sexually as he wants to be, with
other consenting adults. I may not want to hear about it,
but I don't care what he does. Trolling the group, however -
that's right out.

Kevin R
Cloud Hobbit
2017-12-01 09:27:25 UTC
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You wish you could taste JTEM.
You filthy faggot, stop projecting your sexual fantasies, stool pusher.
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It's obvious... the way you follow me around,
hiding behind different handles, you're so
ashamed....
Fuck off, faggot.
McGuinness can be as bent sexually as he wants to be, with
other consenting adults. I may not want to hear about it,
but I don't care what he does. Trolling the group, however -
that's right out.
Kevin R
Don't touch that crucifix, you don't know where its been.
JTEM
2017-12-02 05:02:41 UTC
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You wish you could be me.

Go pee sitting down.





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Yap Honghor
2017-11-09 01:56:53 UTC
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So how low do you have to harvest the tragedy
of the Texas church shooting, exploit all the
suffering inflicted BY AN ATHEISTS in order to
attack the Catholic church...
We are trying to show this world that there is no such as thing as a pixie...quit the action of a congregation to kneel before an idiot.

If you are kind, try use the time to rack in some money for the poor.
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There's something wrong with you. There's
something deeply disturbed in you.
We are deeply disturbed by the insanity or stupidity of believers...
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Post by Alex W.
I thought you claimed to be Catholic.
Anyone can claim anything they want, but they're
a troll posting mostly fundamentalist Protestant
views while ascribing it to the Catholic church.
Post by Alex W.
Don't you know your catechism?
You clearly don't.
Post by Alex W.
The victims were Baptists.
This means they were heretics and according to RCC doctrine are not in
heaven and will never go to heaven.
That's not true at all. That is your interpretation,
what your autism spectrum, in your zeal to lash out
at others, is causing you to project onto the Catholic
church.
Baptist or Catholic church, what is the difference?
They are all insane...
Post by JTEM
http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p123a9p3.htm
<Quote>
818 "However, one cannot charge with the sin of
the separation those who at present are born
into these communities [that resulted from such
separation] and in them are brought up in the
faith of Christ, and the Catholic Church accepts
them with respect and affection as brothers . . . .
</Quote>
Now, the Baptist church, on the other hand, insists
that Catholics follow a "False Doctrine" and are
hence doomed.
All churches are following con teaching....
Post by JTEM
Maybe you should stop being a twisted psycho, as you
can't get anything right.
And you are wrong, as usual.
JTEM
2017-12-02 05:04:31 UTC
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We are trying to show this world that there is no such as thing as a pixie...
[Atheists shoots up church]

Collective: "See? See that? Theists are so
dangerous!"






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duke
2017-11-09 11:13:46 UTC
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Because God doesn't give a shit. He isn't there.
Being non-existent might have had something to do with it.
The victims are in heaven.
The shooter is in hell.
I thought you claimed to be Catholic.
Don't you know your catechism?
The victims were Baptists.
This means they were heretics and according to RCC doctrine are not in
heaven and will never go to heaven.
Now that's dumb. God loves all of his creation. Said lake of fire is for
people that say that's what they want in eternity.

the dukester, American-American


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John Locke
2017-11-07 22:25:10 UTC
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Because God doesn't give a shit. He isn't there.
Being non-existent might have had something to do with it.
The victims are in heaven.
The shooter is in hell.
..yes, it's a nice thought. Unfortunately, the reality is,
there's no friggen afterlife and they have all ceased to exist.
Prayer does not work, the surviviors were not saved by their god,
Jesus did not need extra souls in heaven and your god, being
non-existant, cannot work in mysterious ways.
duke
2017-11-09 11:14:09 UTC
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Because God doesn't give a shit. He isn't there.
Being non-existent might have had something to do with it.
The victims are in heaven.
The shooter is in hell.
..yes, it's a nice thought. Unfortunately, the reality is,
there's no friggen afterlife and they have all ceased to exist.
Haahaahaa. Prove it.
Post by John Locke
Prayer does not work, the surviviors were not saved by their god,
Jesus did not need extra souls in heaven and your god, being
non-existant, cannot work in mysterious ways.
the dukester, American-American


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Yap Honghor
2017-11-08 00:52:45 UTC
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Because God doesn't give a shit. He isn't there.
Being non-existent might have had something to do with it.
The victims are in heaven.
Did you ever ask them if they are willing to go to a place non-existent?
And you can jump from a tall building just to join them, if heaven is all you are looking forward in life!!!!
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The shooter is in hell.
Luckily, the hell is reserved for believers and to liars like you!!!!
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2017-11-08 01:52:09 UTC
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Because God doesn't give a shit. He isn't there.
Being non-existent might have had something to do with it.
The victims are in heaven.
The shooter is in hell.
Prove it.
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The Catholic Church is evil.
duke
2017-11-09 11:15:20 UTC
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Because God doesn't give a shit. He isn't there.
Being non-existent might have had something to do with it.
The victims are in heaven.
The shooter is in hell.
Prove it.
God's promise basis the way one lives his life in the flesh.
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He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he that dares not reason is a slave. William Drummond
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The Catholic Church is evil.
The Catholic Church is the Church founded by Jesus Christ.

the dukester, American-American


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Cloud Hobbit
2017-11-17 05:04:45 UTC
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The Catholic Church is the Church founded by Jesus Christ.
- show quoted text -


The Catholic church is the church invented by people who an opportunity to control the populace the same way that other religious leaders did elsewhere.

Some of them probably even believed the nonsense they were preaching.

These days enough information has been gathered to understand that the bible is not to be trusted as a reliable source. It contains far too much proven fiction.

Believe what you like but don't tell me any more lies.

It's tiring.
duke
2017-11-17 18:01:40 UTC
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The Catholic Church is the Church founded by Jesus Christ.
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The Catholic church is the church invented by people who an opportunity to control the populace the same way that other religious leaders did elsewhere.
I don't see any control. Where do you see it?
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Some of them probably even believed the nonsense they were preaching.
What nonsense?
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These days enough information has been gathered to understand that the bible is not to be trusted as a reliable source. It contains far too much proven fiction.
Only fools think the physical events are meaningful. They're not. They're only
the mechanism behind presenting spiritual truth.

That's what you clowns don't get.
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Believe what you like but don't tell me any more lies.
It's tiring.
Then go away if you can't handle the truth.

the dukester, American-American


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hypatiab7
2017-11-18 20:38:58 UTC
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The Catholic Church is the Church founded by Jesus Christ.
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The Catholic church is the church invented by people who an opportunity to control the populace the same way that other religious leaders did elsewhere.
I don't see any control. Where do you see it?
Have you never studied the actual history of the Roman Catholic Church?
Oh, I forgot, you don't read.
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Some of them probably even believed the nonsense they were preaching.
What nonsense?
Post by duke
These days enough information has been gathered to understand that the bible is not to be trusted as a reliable source. It contains far too much proven fiction.
Only fools think the physical events are meaningful. They're not. They're only the mechanism behind presenting spiritual truth.
In other words, you don't want to know the truth. You'd rather trust blind
faith and spiritualism. You're scared to death of reality.
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That's what you clowns don't get.
You and ArtieJoe are two of a kind.
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Believe what you like but don't tell me any more lies.
It's tiring.
Then go away if you can't handle the truth.
Go away yourself until you can face reality.
duke
2017-11-19 20:40:07 UTC
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The Catholic Church is the Church founded by Jesus Christ.
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The Catholic church is the church invented by people who an opportunity to control the populace the same way that other religious leaders did elsewhere.
I don't see any control. Where do you see it?
Have you never studied the actual history of the Roman Catholic Church?
Oh, I forgot, you don't read.
Well, not in detail. But those old-timey European laws had different standards.
A Catholic farmer pushing satanic heresy as Catholicism is not a good guy.
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Some of them probably even believed the nonsense they were preaching.
What nonsense?
Post by duke
These days enough information has been gathered to understand that the bible is not to be trusted as a reliable source. It contains far too much proven fiction.
Only fools think the physical events are meaningful. They're not. They're only the mechanism behind presenting spiritual truth.
In other words, you don't want to know the truth. You'd rather trust blind
faith and spiritualism. You're scared to death of reality.
I keep telling you fool. Man wrote stories around his culture, but the real
value of the teaching is the spiritual message, not the actions.
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Post by duke
That's what you clowns don't get.
You and ArtieJoe are two of a kind.
Yes, we are both men of God.
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Believe what you like but don't tell me any more lies.
It's tiring.
Then go away if you can't handle the truth.
Go away yourself until you can face reality.
Welcome to God's world.


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hypatiab7
2018-01-03 12:21:37 UTC
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The Catholic Church is the Church founded by Jesus Christ.
- show quoted text -
The Catholic church is the church invented by people who an opportunity to control the populace the same way that other religious leaders did elsewhere.
I don't see any control. Where do you see it?
It's called fear. The Church has always used that.
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Have you never studied the actual history of the Roman Catholic Church?
Oh, I forgot, you don't read.
Well, not in detail. But those old-timey European laws had different standards.
That is a timey-wimey copout. How were the standards different? When and why did some of them change?

You haven't studied the history of your own Church, but you keep pushing it's beliefs. You probably don't even know how Church law developed. With power
comes law, control, bigotry and people kept ignorant of what is really going
on and why and who gains what.
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A Catholic farmer pushing satanic heresy as Catholicism is not a good guy.
It seems that many of the so-called 'witches' were rich widows and widowers
whose money and property went to the Churches both RCC and Protestant. And,
more than just a few priests, monks and nuns were Christian Satanists.
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Some of them probably even believed the nonsense they were preaching.
What nonsense?
Post by duke
These days enough information has been gathered to understand that the bible is not to be trusted as a reliable source. It contains far too much proven fiction.
Only fools think the physical events are meaningful. They're not. They're only the mechanism behind presenting spiritual truth.
In other words, you don't want to know the truth. You'd rather trust blind
faith and spiritualism. You're scared to death of reality.
I keep telling you fool. Man wrote stories around his culture, but the real
value of the teaching is the spiritual message, not the actions.
There is no spiritual message and you can't prove that there is.
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That's what you clowns don't get.
We know when you're gobbledegooking us. You, Earl, are as spiritual as a rock.
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You and ArtieJoe are two of a kind.
Yes, we are both men of God.
If your fictional god existed, it wouldn't deal with failures like you.
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Believe what you like but don't tell me any more lies.
It's tiring.
Then go away if you can't handle the truth.
Go away yourself until you can face reality.
Welcome to God's world.
You still haven't presented any evidence, material or not, that your god
creature has ever existed. You should know this by now, Earl James Weber.
Please don't say that you have presented evidence. Whatever you wrote wasn't acceptable. You gave up even trying at that point, knowing that we atheists
will not accept your bible or religious faith. Plus, you've never corrected
us on anything, so correcting by you is out. You really have no reason to
be here. Feel free to cook up new stuff to add to your endless failures.
We can always use a good laugh.
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2018-01-03 13:23:40 UTC
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You really have no reason to be here.
Oh sure he does; you trolls respond to his every post.
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There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is *THE* foundation of Christianity.
Sycophant: a compulsive ass-kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.
duke
2018-01-03 16:23:47 UTC
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You really have no reason to be here.
Oh sure he does; you trolls respond to his every post.
They have no point to make.

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The Catholic Church is the Church founded by Jesus Christ.
- show quoted text -
The Catholic church is the church invented by people who an opportunity
to control the populace the same way that other religious leaders did elsewhere.
I don't see any control. Where do you see it?
It's called fear. The Church has always used that.
It's also called extortion by threatening elected representatives with
excommunication on both sides of the Atlantic, if they happen to be
Catholic and don't vote the Vatican line.

It's called the RCC majority in the SCOTUS, ruling that companies are
people with religious beliefs that they can impose in their employees
by refusing contraception in their health coverage.

Etc.
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Have you never studied the actual history of the Roman Catholic Church?
Oh, I forgot, you don't read.
Well, not in detail. But those old-timey European laws had different standards.
That is a timey-wimey copout. How were the standards different? When and why
did some of them change?
Like far too many Catholics (and also Protestants), Puke has fallen
for his church's rose-tinted historical revisionism and is in denial
about its bloodier side.

But he's so stupid that he expects everybody else to do the same.
Post by hypatiab7
You haven't studied the history of your own Church, but you keep
pushing it's beliefs. You probably don't even know how Church law
developed. With power comes law, control, bigotry and people kept
ignorant of what is really going on and why and who gains what.
He needs to learn some real-world history.
Post by hypatiab7
Post by duke
A Catholic farmer pushing satanic heresy
No such thing.
Post by hypatiab7
Post by duke
as Catholicism is not a good guy.
It seems that many of the so-called 'witches' were rich widows and widowers
whose money and property went to the Churches both RCC and Protestant. And,
more than just a few priests, monks and nuns were Christian Satanists.
Many of them were also the remnants of the old religions, not to
mention herbalists and/or midwives.
Post by hypatiab7
Post by duke
Post by hypatiab7
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Post by duke
Some of them probably even believed the nonsense they were preaching.
What nonsense?
Post by duke
These days enough information has been gathered to understand that the
bible is not to be trusted as a reliable source. It contains far too much
proven fiction.
It never has been, for thinking minds - but if people spoke out, they
were executed as heretics.
Post by hypatiab7
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Only fools think the physical events are meaningful. They're not. They're only
the mechanism behind presenting spiritual truth.
What a fucking moron. A liar as well as a question-begging idiot.
Post by hypatiab7
Post by duke
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In other words, you don't want to know the truth. You'd rather trust blind
faith and spiritualism. You're scared to death of reality.
For the last twenty years, he has been incapable of admitting that
only Christians believe Christian doctrines, and that only Catholics
believe the Catholic subset.
Post by hypatiab7
Post by duke
I keep telling you fool. Man wrote stories around his culture, but the real
value of the teaching is the spiritual message, not the actions.
WHAT FUCKING "SPIRITUAL: MESSAGE", in-your-face liar?
Post by hypatiab7
There is no spiritual message and you can't prove that there is.
He's too brainwashed.
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That's what you clowns don't get.
What clowns, nasty little shit of a pathological liar?
Post by hypatiab7
We know when you're gobbledegooking us. You, Earl, are as spiritual as a rock.
Post by duke
Post by hypatiab7
You and ArtieJoe are two of a kind.
Yes, we are both men of God.
WHAT FUCKING GOD, deliberately dishonest liar who knows they're both
in-your-face narcissistic, sociopathic and psychopathic?
Post by hypatiab7
If your fictional god existed, it wouldn't deal with failures like you.
It would send them both to its religion's hell.
Post by hypatiab7
Post by duke
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Post by duke
Post by duke
Believe what you like but don't tell me any more lies.
It's tiring.
Then go away if you can't handle the truth.
WHAT FUCKING "TRUTH", in-your-face liar?

And it takes a psychopath to crash a group and tell its regulars to go
away.
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Go away yourself until you can face reality.
Welcome to God's world.
WHAT FUCKING GOD AND WHAT FUCKING "GOD'S WORLD", question-begging,
brainwashed liar?
Post by hypatiab7
You still haven't presented any evidence, material or not, that your god
creature has ever existed. You should know this by now, Earl James Weber.
wasn't acceptable. You gave up even trying at that point, knowing that
we atheists will not accept your bible or religious faith. Plus, you've
never corrected us on anything, so correcting by you is out. You really
have no reason to be here.
It's a psychopathic game for him, which is reason enough as far as
he's concerned.
Post by hypatiab7
Feel free to cook up new stuff to add to your endless failures.
We can always use a good laugh.
Don't just say it's unacceptable - he's so stupid he'll imagine we
reject it because we're atheist.

Not because it doesn't even remotely resemble evidence because it
cannot be defended as such.
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Post by duke
On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 21:04:45 -0800 (PST), Cloud Hobbit
Post by duke
The Catholic Church is the Church founded by Jesus Christ.
- show quoted text -
The Catholic church is the church invented by people who an opportunity
to control the populace the same way that other religious leaders did elsewhere.
I don't see any control. Where do you see it?
It's called fear. The Church has always used that.
It's also called extortion by threatening elected representatives with
excommunication on both sides of the Atlantic, if they happen to be
Catholic and don't vote the Vatican line.
Show us where that happened.
Post by Christopher A. Lee
It's called the RCC majority in the SCOTUS, ruling that companies are
people with religious beliefs that they can impose in their employees
by refusing contraception in their health coverage.
Etc.
Post by hypatiab7
Post by duke
Post by hypatiab7
Have you never studied the actual history of the Roman Catholic Church?
Oh, I forgot, you don't read.
Well, not in detail. But those old-timey European laws had different standards.
That is a timey-wimey copout. How were the standards different? When and why
did some of them change?
Like far too many Catholics (and also Protestants), Puke has fallen
for his church's rose-tinted historical revisionism and is in denial
about its bloodier side.
But he's so stupid that he expects everybody else to do the same.
Post by hypatiab7
You haven't studied the history of your own Church, but you keep
pushing it's beliefs. You probably don't even know how Church law
developed. With power comes law, control, bigotry and people kept
ignorant of what is really going on and why and who gains what.
He needs to learn some real-world history.
Post by hypatiab7
Post by duke
A Catholic farmer pushing satanic heresy
No such thing.
Post by hypatiab7
Post by duke
as Catholicism is not a good guy.
It seems that many of the so-called 'witches' were rich widows and widowers
whose money and property went to the Churches both RCC and Protestant. And,
more than just a few priests, monks and nuns were Christian Satanists.
Many of them were also the remnants of the old religions, not to
mention herbalists and/or midwives.
Post by hypatiab7
Post by duke
Post by hypatiab7
Post by duke
Post by duke
Some of them probably even believed the nonsense they were preaching.
What nonsense?
Post by duke
These days enough information has been gathered to understand that the
bible is not to be trusted as a reliable source. It contains far too much
proven fiction.
It never has been, for thinking minds
How about Galileo, Copernicus and Isaac Newton?
Post by Christopher A. Lee
Post by hypatiab7
Post by duke
Post by hypatiab7
Post by duke
Only fools think the physical events are meaningful. They're not. They're only
the mechanism behind presenting spiritual truth.
What a fucking moron. A liar as well as a question-begging idiot.
Post by hypatiab7
Post by duke
Post by hypatiab7
In other words, you don't want to know the truth. You'd rather trust blind
faith and spiritualism. You're scared to death of reality.
For the last twenty years, he has been incapable of admitting that
only Christians believe Christian doctrines, and that only Catholics
believe the Catholic subset.
Post by hypatiab7
Post by duke
I keep telling you fool. Man wrote stories around his culture, but the real
value of the teaching is the spiritual message, not the actions.
WHAT FUCKING "SPIRITUAL: MESSAGE", in-your-face liar?
Here's one:

https://www.biblestudytools.com/msg/hebrews/6-19.html
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Post by hypatiab7
There is no spiritual message and you can't prove that there is.
He's too brainwashed.
Post by hypatiab7
Post by duke
Post by hypatiab7
Post by duke
That's what you clowns don't get.
What clowns, nasty little shit of a pathological liar?
Post by hypatiab7
We know when you're gobbledegooking us. You, Earl, are as spiritual as a rock.
Post by duke
Post by hypatiab7
You and ArtieJoe are two of a kind.
Yes, we are both men of God.
WHAT FUCKING GOD, deliberately dishonest liar who knows they're both
in-your-face narcissistic, sociopathic and psychopathic?
Narcisism includes people like you who make up their own moral codes.
Post by Christopher A. Lee
Post by hypatiab7
If your fictional god existed, it wouldn't deal with failures like you.
It would send them both to its religion's hell.
There is no Hell in Judaism.
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Post by duke
Post by hypatiab7
Post by duke
Post by duke
Believe what you like but don't tell me any more lies.
It's tiring.
Then go away if you can't handle the truth.
WHAT FUCKING "TRUTH", in-your-face liar?
And it takes a psychopath to crash a group and tell its regulars to go
away.
Where did he tell you to go away?
Post by Christopher A. Lee
Post by hypatiab7
Post by duke
Post by hypatiab7
Go away yourself until you can face reality.
Welcome to God's world.
WHAT FUCKING GOD AND WHAT FUCKING "GOD'S WORLD", question-begging,
brainwashed liar?
Post by hypatiab7
You still haven't presented any evidence, material or not, that your god
creature has ever existed. You should know this by now, Earl James Weber.
wasn't acceptable. You gave up even trying at that point, knowing that
we atheists will not accept your bible or religious faith. Plus, you've
never corrected us on anything, so correcting by you is out. You really
have no reason to be here.
It's a psychopathic game for him, which is reason enough as far as
he's concerned.
If religion is psychopathic, then most of the world is crazy.
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A Catholic farmer pushing satanic heresy
No such thing.
WRONG

heresy

1.
opinion or doctrine at variance with the orthodox or accepted doctrine, especially of a church or religious system.
2.
the maintaining of such an opinion or doctrine.
3.
Roman Catholic Church. the willful and persistent rejection of any article of faith by a baptized member of the church.
4.
any belief or theory that is strongly at variance with established beliefs, customs, etc.
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Post by duke
The Catholic Church is the Church founded by Jesus Christ.
- show quoted text -
The Catholic church is the church invented by people who an opportunity to control the populace the same way that other religious leaders did elsewhere.
I don't see any control. Where do you see it?
It's called fear. The Church has always used that.
My Catholic Church does not do that to me.
Post by hypatiab7
Post by duke
Post by hypatiab7
Have you never studied the actual history of the Roman Catholic Church?
Oh, I forgot, you don't read.
Well, not in detail. But those old-timey European laws had different standards.
That is a timey-wimey copout. How were the standards different? When and why did some of them change?
The civil and moral mentality of early Europe was different. Europe had totally
different civil law that doesn't exist today. The mentality of people 1500
years ago was totally different than today.
Post by hypatiab7
You haven't studied the history of your own Church, but you keep pushing it's beliefs. You probably don't even know how Church law developed. With power
comes law, control, bigotry and people kept ignorant of what is really going
on and why and who gains what.
I have access to the early Church Fathers and their teachings, to the Papacy and
it's development and growth, to the Catechism. You think that the "dark ages",
the feudal system, etc and before actually represent today?

What do you think would be the moral code of the world if not for American
democracy. How do you think the European "black death" figured in?

When the Catholic Church started, it was 13 men in hiding around Jerusalem. The
Catholic Church conquered the spiritual world while at a time that man was more
of an animal than today.
Post by hypatiab7
Post by duke
A Catholic farmer pushing satanic heresy as Catholicism is not a good guy.
It seems that many of the so-called 'witches' were rich widows and widowers
whose money and property went to the Churches both RCC and Protestant. And,
more than just a few priests, monks and nuns were Christian Satanists.
Blah, blah, blah.
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Post by duke
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Some of them probably even believed the nonsense they were preaching.
What nonsense?
Post by duke
These days enough information has been gathered to understand that the bible is not to be trusted as a reliable source. It contains far too much proven fiction.
Only fools think the physical events are meaningful. They're not. They're only the mechanism behind presenting spiritual truth.
In other words, you don't want to know the truth. You'd rather trust blind
faith and spiritualism. You're scared to death of reality.
I keep telling you fool. Man wrote stories around his culture, but the real
value of the teaching is the spiritual message, not the actions.
There is no spiritual message and you can't prove that there is.
The Spiritual message is love and obey God and love your neighbor as you love
yourself. Even an atheist can live that way yet not understand where the
calling comes from.
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That's what you clowns don't get.
We know when you're gobbledegooking us. You, Earl, are as spiritual as a rock.
A rock is more spiritual than you.
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You and ArtieJoe are two of a kind.
Yes, we are both men of God.
If your fictional god existed, it wouldn't deal with failures like you.
That's your damnation sounding out.
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Believe what you like but don't tell me any more lies.
It's tiring.
Then go away if you can't handle the truth.
Go away yourself until you can face reality.
Welcome to God's world.
You still haven't presented any evidence, material or not, that your god
creature has ever existed.
You cant' support your non spiritual life. You choose it, and condemn yourself.
Post by hypatiab7
You should know this by now, Earl James Weber.
Please don't say that you have presented evidence. Whatever you wrote wasn't acceptable.
To an atheist who doesn't care for truth.
Post by hypatiab7
You gave up even trying at that point, knowing that we atheists
will not accept your bible or religious faith. Plus, you've never corrected
us on anything, so correcting by you is out.
Not when you close your mind to truth.
Post by hypatiab7
You really have no reason to
be here. Feel free to cook up new stuff to add to your endless failures.
We can always use a good laugh.
Yes, I do. To help as many people as I can from your satanist fangs - whether
atheist or lurker or the unsure.


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The Catholic Church is the Church founded by Jesus Christ.
- show quoted text -
The Catholic church is the church invented by people who an opportunity to control the populace the same way that other religious leaders did elsewhere.
I don't see any control. Where do you see it?
It's called fear. The Church has always used that.
My Catholic Church does not do that to me.
If your catholic your gone to hell except ye repent.
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The Catholic church is the church invented by people who an opportunity to control the populace the same way that other religious leaders did elsewhere.
It's called fear. The Church has always used that.
It's not fair to bash and bash Christianity yet remain mostly silent about your own Judaism.

Judaism is the root of Christian intolerance->divisiveness->hate->war->GENOCIDE

Right, hypa?, your people have been good teachers. Right?
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The Catholic church is the church invented by people who an opportunity to control the populace the same way that other religious leaders did elsewhere.
It's called fear. The Church has always used that.
It's not fair to bash and bash Christianity yet remain mostly silent about your own Judaism.
Judaism is the root of Christian intolerance->divisiveness->hate->war->GENOCIDE
HUH?Atheists wage war(Stalin, Mao). The ancient Greeks and Romans were not Jews and they waged war.
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You probably don't even know how Church law developed. With power
comes law, control, bigotry and people kept ignorant of what is really going
on and why and who gains what.
It's not fair to bash and bash Christianity yet remain mostly silent about your own Judaism.

Judaism is the root of Christian intolerance->divisiveness->hate->war->GENOCIDE

Right, hypa?, your people have been good teachers. Right?
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It seems that many of the so-called 'witches' were rich widows and widowers
whose money and property went to the Churches both RCC and Protestant. And,
more than just a few priests, monks and nuns were Christian Satanists.
It's not fair to bash and bash Christianity yet remain mostly silent about your own Judaism.

Judaism is the root of Christian intolerance->divisiveness->hate->war->GENOCIDE

Right, hypa?, your people have been good teachers. Right?
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Yes, we are both men of God.
If your fictional god existed, it wouldn't deal with failures like you.
It's not fair to bash and bash Christianity yet remain mostly silent about your own Judaism.

Judaism is the root of Christian intolerance->divisiveness->hate->war->GENOCIDE

Right, hypa?, your people have been good teachers. Right?
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Because God doesn't give a shit. He isn't there.
Being non-existent might have had something to do with it.
The victims are in heaven.
The shooter is in hell.
Too bad about all that pain stuff in between, eh?
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Because God doesn't give a shit. He isn't there.
Being non-existent might have had something to do with it.
The victims are in heaven.
The shooter is in hell.
Too bad about all that pain stuff in between, eh?
Life's a bitch then you die and are judged by God.

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You believing it Duke doesn't make it true.
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You believing it Duke doesn't make it true.
Nor your opinion.

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You believing it Duke doesn't make it true.
Nor your opinion.
Never said it did, but I at least try to make sure there is substance for what I believe. I try to get both sides of any argument so I can see if there is ANY substance to what people like you believe. It was looking at both sides that eventually made me decide that I was an atheist.

What makes things true Duke, is that they can be seen by anybody without any rationalizations, apologetics, exaggeration, or bullshit. What you believe is so obviously based on fables, myths, and fantasy that it's no wonder that religion is dying out in any place that has a free flow of information. The internet will have another benefit to mankind in helping to kill theism.

Just like Art, you are a major force in helping people choose atheism over mysticism.
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You believing it Duke doesn't make it true.
Nor your opinion.
Never said it did, but I at least try to make sure there is substance for what I believe. I try to get both sides of any argument so I can see if there is ANY substance to what people like you believe. It was looking at both sides that eventually made me decide that I was an atheist.
I use Church teachings.
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What makes things true Duke, is that they can be seen by anybody without any rationalizations, apologetics, exaggeration, or bullshit. What you believe is so obviously based on fables, myths, and fantasy that it's no wonder that religion is dying out in any place that has a free flow of information. The internet will have another benefit to mankind in helping to kill theism.
I'm not an apologist. But Jesus left a Church of men behind. They know.

The protest_ants came along 1600 years after the cross and decided to reject
most of what Jesus left behind.

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You believing it Duke doesn't make it true.
Nor your opinion.
Never said it did, but I at least try to make sure there is substance
for what I believe. I try to get both sides of any argument so I can
see if there is ANY substance to what people like you believe. It was
looking at both sides that eventually made me decide that I was an
atheist.
I use Church teachings.
Instead of the Bible.

No wonder you are so ignorant
of all things Biblical.
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You believing it Duke doesn't make it true.
Nor your opinion.
Never said it did, but I at least try to make sure there is substance
for what I believe. I try to get both sides of any argument so I can
see if there is ANY substance to what people like you believe. It was
looking at both sides that eventually made me decide that I was an
atheist.
I use Church teachings.
Instead of the Bible.
Dogma of the Church comes form the bible.

Other thinks called doctrine, like ringing the bells or Mass times, are by men.
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No wonder you are so ignorant
of all things Biblical.
Heeheehee.
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Because God doesn't give a shit. He isn't there.
Being non-existent might have had something to do with it.
The victims are in heaven.
The shooter is in hell.
Too bad about all that pain stuff in between, eh?
Life's a bitch then you die and
That's it.
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Because God doesn't give a shit. He isn't there.
Being non-existent might have had something to do with it.
The victims are in heaven.
The shooter is in hell.
Too bad about all that pain stuff in between, eh?
Life's a bitch then you die and
That's it.
Your final resting place is based on God's judgment of you.

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Because God doesn't give a shit. He isn't there.
Being non-existent might have had something to do with it.
The victims are in heaven.
The shooter is in hell.
Too bad about all that pain stuff in between, eh?
Life's a bitch then you die and
That's it.
Your final resting place is based on God's judgment of you.
You mean, like, Boston? Cape Town? Brisbane?
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Because God doesn't give a shit. He isn't there.
Being non-existent might have had something to do with it.
The victims are in heaven.
The shooter is in hell.
Too bad about all that pain stuff in between, eh?
Life's a bitch then you die and
That's it.
Your final resting place is based on God's judgment of you.
You mean, like, Boston? Cape Town? Brisbane?
No, that's only the dead shell of your body rotting away.

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Because God doesn't give a shit. He isn't there.
Being non-existent might have had something to do with it.
The victims are in heaven.
The shooter is in hell.
Too bad about all that pain stuff in between, eh?
Life's a bitch then you die and
That's it.
Your final resting place is based on God's judgment of you.
You mean, like, Boston? Cape Town? Brisbane?
No, that's only the dead shell of your body rotting away.
You said "place", so where? Hopefully, not in Jersey...
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Because God doesn't give a shit. He isn't there.
Being non-existent might have had something to do with it.
The victims are in heaven.
The shooter is in hell.
Too bad about all that pain stuff in between, eh?
Life's a bitch then you die and
That's it.
Your final resting place is based on God's judgment of you.
You mean, like, Boston? Cape Town? Brisbane?
No, that's only the dead shell of your body rotting away.
You said "place", so where? Hopefully, not in Jersey...
Nope, Jersey is one of the places with the dead shell of your body rotting away.

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Nope, Jersey is one of the places with the dead shell of your body rotting away.
No, it only smells like it.
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Nope, Jersey is one of the places with the dead shell of your body rotting away.
No, it only smells like it.
Or where ever your dead shell of a body ends up.

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Because God doesn't give a shit. He isn't there.
Being non-existent might have had something to do with it.
The victims are in heaven.
The shooter is in hell.
And what if the victim was a horrible person?
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Too bad about all that pain stuff in between, eh?
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Because God doesn't give a shit. He isn't there.
God wants to test the faith of his followers.
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God wants to test the faith of his followers.
Relentlessly and without mercy, it seems...
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Why can't God protect his churches?
Because He wants the job for you otherwise you will never get a job on your own.
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Because God doesn't give a shit. He isn't there.
He didn't protect His Son either.
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Because God doesn't give a shit. He isn't there.
He didn't protect His Son either.
He also didn't build the churches or pay for them.
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Because God doesn't give a shit. He isn't there.
He didn't protect His Son either.
He also didn't build the churches or pay for them.
It is really unimaginable how stupid are theists, building something just to pray to pixie, without due regard for true human needs in areas of poverty and disease eradication.
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He also didn't build the churches or pay for them.
It is really unimaginable how stupid are theists, building something just to pray to pixie, without due regard for true human needs in areas of poverty and disease eradication.
People can do as they wish with their own money.
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Because God doesn't give a shit. He isn't there.
He didn't protect His Son either.
He also didn't build the churches or pay for them.
It is really unimaginable how stupid are theists, building something just to pray to pixie, without due regard for true human needs in areas of poverty and disease eradication.
People can do as they wish with their own money.
Of course, but your religion is suppose to be a moral guide, love, etc to human existence, no?

One is not responsible to feed, cloth and care for others, but religion takes money in vast amount as tithes and donation while ignoring the inequality, hunger, poverty, diseases, etc?
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Because God doesn't give a shit. He isn't there.
He didn't protect His Son either.
He also didn't build the churches or pay for them.
It is really unimaginable how stupid are theists, building something just to pray to pixie, without due regard for true human needs in areas of poverty and disease eradication.
People can do as they wish with their own money.
Of course, but your religion is suppose to be a moral guide, love, etc to human existence, no?
One is not responsible to feed, cloth and care for others, but religion takes money in vast amount as tithes and donation while ignoring the inequality, hunger, poverty, diseases, etc?
You never heard of Catholic Charities?
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Because God doesn't give a shit. He isn't there.
He didn't protect His Son either.
According to the Christian myth, your god is a real sadist. He is supposed
to know the past, present and future all the time. That means that he knew
how people would behave and, probably everything that would happen, since that's how everything was arranged in advance. So, your god deliberately
kept Adam and Eve ignorant, so they would fall. Your god created his angels arranging in advance for his favorite to be a rebel and for him and his followers to fall and become the Devil and his minions and, worst of all,
he had a son, knowing that his son would die to make up for Big Daddy's mistakes and deliberate cruelty. After all, your god arranged for all
these angels and humans to become sinners and fall because that was what
he wanted to happen. Maybe he was bored. Maybe he was a sadist and
definitely not perfect.

Christianity is so screwed up, it had to have been created by humans.
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Because God doesn't give a shit. He isn't there.
He didn't protect His Son either.
According to the Christian myth, your god is a real sadist.
Not so.


He is supposed
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to know the past, present and future all the time. That means that he knew
how people would behave and, probably everything that would happen, since that's how everything was arranged in advance.
Yes, and those who suffered and made it to heaven, he would know that too. Are you a sadist if you reject heaven? A man is his worst own sadist.


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kept Adam and Eve ignorant, so they would fall. Your god created his angels arranging in advance for his favorite to be a rebel and for him and his followers to fall and become the Devil and his minions and, worst of all,
he had a son, knowing that his son would die to make up for Big Daddy's mistakes and deliberate cruelty. After all, your god arranged for all
these angels and humans to become sinners and fall because that was what
he wanted to happen. Maybe he was bored. Maybe he was a sadist and
definitely not perfect.
Christianity is so screwed up, it had to have been created by humans.
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Because God doesn't give a shit. He isn't there.
He didn't protect His Son either.
According to the Christian myth, your god is a real sadist. He is supposed
to know the past, present and future all the time. That means that he knew
how people would behave and, probably everything that would happen, since that's how everything was arranged in advance. So, your god deliberately
kept Adam and Eve ignorant, so they would fall. Your god created his angels arranging in advance for his favorite to be a rebel and for him and his followers to fall and become the Devil and his minions and, worst of all,
he had a son, knowing that his son would die to make up for Big Daddy's mistakes and deliberate cruelty. After all, your god arranged for all
these angels and humans to become sinners and fall because that was what
he wanted to happen. Maybe he was bored. Maybe he was a sadist and
definitely not perfect.
I've asked about this a few times. They can't answer it logically.
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Christianity is so screwed up, it had to have been created by humans.
Well you can thank Paul for that in the Bible.
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Because God doesn't give a shit. He isn't there.
He didn't protect His Son either.
According to the Christian myth, your god is a real sadist. He is supposed
to know the past, present and future all the time. That means that he knew
how people would behave and, probably everything that would happen, since that's how everything was arranged in advance. So, your god deliberately
kept Adam and Eve ignorant, so they would fall. Your god created his angels arranging in advance for his favorite to be a rebel and for him and his followers to fall and become the Devil and his minions and, worst of all,
he had a son, knowing that his son would die to make up for Big Daddy's mistakes and deliberate cruelty. After all, your god arranged for all
these angels and humans to become sinners and fall because that was what
he wanted to happen. Maybe he was bored. Maybe he was a sadist and
definitely not perfect.
I've asked about this a few times. They can't answer it logically.
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Christianity is so screwed up, it had to have been created by humans.
Well you can thank Paul for that in the Bible.
That's true. Paul managed to reverse a lot of what Jesus was originally supposed to have said and was much more prejudiced. Christianity should
really be called Paulianity.
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Because God doesn't give a shit. He isn't there.
He didn't protect His Son either.
According to the Christian myth, your god is a real sadist. He is supposed
to know the past, present and future all the time. That means that he knew
how people would behave and, probably everything that would happen, since that's how everything was arranged in advance. So, your god deliberately
kept Adam and Eve ignorant, so they would fall. Your god created his angels arranging in advance for his favorite to be a rebel and for him and his followers to fall and become the Devil and his minions and, worst of all,
he had a son, knowing that his son would die to make up for Big Daddy's mistakes and deliberate cruelty. After all, your god arranged for all
these angels and humans to become sinners and fall because that was what
he wanted to happen. Maybe he was bored. Maybe he was a sadist and
definitely not perfect.
I've asked about this a few times. They can't answer it logically.
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Christianity is so screwed up, it had to have been created by humans.
Well you can thank Paul for that in the Bible.
That's true. Paul managed to reverse a lot of what Jesus was originally
supposed to have said and was much more prejudiced. Christianity should
really be called Paulianity.
That was the second version of Christianity.

The first was a minor cult within Judaism.

The third is what is generally thought of as Christianity, and
originated when the Gospels were written. This was when it was being
transformed into a religion for the Mediterranean gentiles and Jesus
was invented as the kind of hero figure they expected, like Hercules,
Perseus, Orpheus, etc.
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Because God doesn't give a shit. He isn't there.
He didn't protect His Son either.
According to the Christian myth, your god is a real sadist. He is supposed
to know the past, present and future all the time. That means that he knew
how people would behave and, probably everything that would happen, since that's how everything was arranged in advance. So, your god deliberately
kept Adam and Eve ignorant, so they would fall. Your god created his angels arranging in advance for his favorite to be a rebel and for him and his followers to fall and become the Devil and his minions and, worst of all,
he had a son, knowing that his son would die to make up for Big Daddy's mistakes and deliberate cruelty. After all, your god arranged for all
these angels and humans to become sinners and fall because that was what
he wanted to happen. Maybe he was bored. Maybe he was a sadist and
definitely not perfect.
I've asked about this a few times. They can't answer it logically.
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Christianity is so screwed up, it had to have been created by humans.
Well you can thank Paul for that in the Bible.
That's true. Paul managed to reverse a lot of what Jesus was originally supposed to have said and was much more prejudiced. Christianity should
really be called Paulianity.
He didn't and it's isn't. Everything Paul taught is directly in line with what
Jesus taught - as confirmed by the expanding Church and the Church Fathers..

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Everything Paul taught is directly in line with what
Jesus taught
JESUS: Go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor.

PAUL: If any would not work, neither should he eat.
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Everything Paul taught is directly in line with what
Jesus taught
JESUS: Go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor.
And the reason he gave is.........?
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PAUL: If any would not work, neither should he eat.
Carry your own weight.

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Everything Paul taught is directly in line with what
Jesus taught
JESUS: Go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor.
PAUL: If any would not work, neither should he eat.
Jesus only expected his disciples to do that.
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Everything Paul taught is directly in line with what
Jesus taught
JESUS: Go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor.
PAUL: If any would not work, neither should he eat.
Jesus only expected his disciples to do that.
And then Jesus told his disciples to make disciples of everyone.

Matthew 28:19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing
them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. (NIV)

So everyone has to do it.
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Everything Paul taught is directly in line with what
Jesus taught
JESUS: Go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor.
PAUL: If any would not work, neither should he eat.
Jesus only expected his disciples to do that.
And then Jesus told his disciples to make disciples of everyone.
Matthew 28:19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing
them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. (NIV)
So everyone has to do it.
Only Christians.
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Everything Paul taught is directly in line with what
Jesus taught
JESUS: Go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor.
PAUL: If any would not work, neither should he eat.
Jesus only expected his disciples to do that.
And then Jesus told his disciples to make disciples of everyone.
Matthew 28:19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing
them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. (NIV)
So everyone has to do it.
Only Christians.
Well, the MAGAts passing themselves off as Christians these days sure as
hell won't do it.
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JESUS: Go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor.
PAUL: If any would not work, neither should he eat.
Jesus only expected his disciples to do that.
Yes, but only donkeys, mules and other brainless human do that???
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Paul managed to reverse a lot of what Jesus was originally supposed to have said and was much more prejudiced. Christianity should
really be called Paulianity.
It's not fair to bash and bash Christianity yet remain mostly silent about your own Judaism.

Judaism is the root of Christian intolerance->divisiveness->hate->war->GENOCIDE

Right, hypa?, your people have been good teachers. Right?
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Because God doesn't give a shit. He isn't there.
He didn't protect His Son either.
According to the Christian myth, your god is a real sadist. He is supposed
to know the past, present and future all the time. That means that he knew
how people would behave and, probably everything that would happen, since that's how everything was arranged in advance. So, your god deliberately
kept Adam and Eve ignorant, so they would fall. Your god created his angels arranging in advance for his favorite to be a rebel and for him and his followers to fall and become the Devil and his minions and, worst of all,
he had a son, knowing that his son would die to make up for Big Daddy's mistakes and deliberate cruelty. After all, your god arranged for all
these angels and humans to become sinners and fall because that was what
he wanted to happen. Maybe he was bored. Maybe he was a sadist and
definitely not perfect.
Christianity is so screwed up, it had to have been created by humans.
What is screwed up is your version of the bible.

What a joke.
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He didn't protect His Son either.
Yes, we know this will be used to dump the old god and put your Jesus in his place. That's how religions work. This would have happened sooner, if not for the invention of the printing press.
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Because God doesn't give a shit. He isn't there.
He didn't protect His Son either.
Yes, we know this will be used to dump the old god and put your Jesus in his place.
WRONG. Jesus, according to the Christians, was the Son of God. God was NEVER replaced. How ignorant are you?
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Because God doesn't give a shit. He isn't there.
He didn't protect His Son either.
Yes, we know this will be used to dump the old god and put your Jesus in his place.
WRONG. Jesus, according to the Christians, was the Son of God. God was
NEVER replaced. How ignorant are you?
You stupid asshole. Christers like Duke say Jesus is God.
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Because God doesn't give a shit. He isn't there.
He didn't protect His Son either.
Yes, we know this will be used to dump the old god and put your Jesus in his place.
WRONG. Jesus, according to the Christians, was the Son of God. God was
NEVER replaced. How ignorant are you?
You stupid asshole. Christers like Duke say Jesus is God.
Some do, possibly most - but there are also non-trinitarian
denominations, including the Mormons and the JWs...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nontrinitarianism#Christian_groups_with_nontrinitarian_positions
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Because God doesn't give a shit. He isn't there.
He didn't protect His Son either.
Yes, we know this will be used to dump the old god and put your Jesus in his place.
WRONG. Jesus, according to the Christians, was the Son of God. God was
NEVER replaced. How ignorant are you?
You stupid asshole. Christers like Duke say Jesus is God.
Some do, possibly most - but there are also non-trinitarian
denominations, including the Mormons and the JWs...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nontrinitarianism#Christian_groups_with_nontrinitarian_positions
Yes, definitely. Thanks Christopher.
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Because God doesn't give a shit. He isn't there.
He didn't protect His Son either.
Yes, we know this will be used to dump the old god and put your Jesus in his place.
WRONG. Jesus, according to the Christians, was the Son of God. God was NEVER replaced. How ignorant are you?
I was responding to a Protestant.
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He didn't protect His Son either.
Yes, we know this will be used to dump the old god and put your Jesus in his place.
WRONG. Jesus, according to the Christians, was the Son of God. God was NEVER replaced. How ignorant are you?
I was responding to a Protestant.
An atheist advising a protest_er??

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Part of fairy tales for the fools.....
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Part of fairy tales for the fools.....
You can read fairy tales and see how they aren't elaborately detailed and contain no historical interaction. Jesus lived during the time of Pontius Pilate, and Pilate had him crucified. That's a detail that cannot be over looked. Jesus lived amongst us and the proof is in the facts.
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He didn't protect His Son either.
Part of fairy tales for the fools.....
You can read fairy tales and see how they aren't elaborately detailed and contain no historical interaction. Jesus lived during the time of Pontius Pilate, and Pilate had him crucified. That's a detail that cannot be over looked. Jesus lived amongst us and the proof is in the facts.
If you take Jesus as a truth, then one must recognized that he was merely a carpenter of only value in carpentry....nothing of god capability or of use to human!!!!!

Why do you go against facts???????????????????????????????????????????
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