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Official definitions of "atheism" and "atheist"
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2017-11-13 20:40:50 UTC
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Official definitions of "atheism" and "atheist"
https://www.define-atheism.com/

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atheism - absence of belief in deities

Linguistic structure
Absence (rather than opposition) is indicated by the "a-" prefix, meaning "without,"
hence "atheism" can be concisely characterized as "without theism."

Burden of proof
Since the "atheism" classification is not justified by claims for or against
theistic or anti-theistic positions, the burden of proof is not applicable.
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So if you call yourself a "freethinker" or "non-religious" or whatever AND you are
absent a belief in a god, then YOU ARE AN ATHEIST.
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There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is *THE* foundation of Christianity.
Sycophant: a compulsive ass-kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.
Frank
2017-11-13 23:46:16 UTC
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Official definitions of "atheism" and "atheist"
  https://www.define-atheism.com/
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atheism - absence of belief in deities
Linguistic structure
Absence (rather than opposition) is indicated by the "a-" prefix, meaning "without,"
hence "atheism" can be concisely characterized as "without theism."
Burden of proof
Since the "atheism" classification is not justified by claims for or against
theistic or anti-theistic positions, the burden of proof is not applicable.
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So if you call yourself a "freethinker" or "non-religious" or whatever AND you are
absent a belief in a god, then YOU ARE AN ATHEIST.
You are preaching atheism as if it were a religion.
Ed Huntress
2017-11-14 01:16:48 UTC
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Official definitions of "atheism" and "atheist"
  https://www.define-atheism.com/
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atheism - absence of belief in deities
Linguistic structure
Absence (rather than opposition) is indicated by the "a-" prefix, meaning "without,"
hence "atheism" can be concisely characterized as "without theism."
Burden of proof
Since the "atheism" classification is not justified by claims for or against
theistic or anti-theistic positions, the burden of proof is not applicable.
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So if you call yourself a "freethinker" or "non-religious" or whatever AND you are
absent a belief in a god, then YOU ARE AN ATHEIST.
You are preaching atheism as if it were a religion.
"Atheism is a religion like abstinence is a sex position." -- Bill
Maher
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Jeanne Douglas
2017-11-14 05:00:06 UTC
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Official definitions of "atheism" and "atheist"
https://www.define-atheism.com/
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atheism - absence of belief in deities
Linguistic structure
Absence (rather than opposition) is indicated by the "a-" prefix, meaning "without,"
hence "atheism" can be concisely characterized as "without theism."
Burden of proof
Since the "atheism" classification is not justified by claims for or against
theistic or anti-theistic positions, the burden of proof is not applicable.
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So if you call yourself a "freethinker" or "non-religious" or whatever AND you are
absent a belief in a god, then YOU ARE AN ATHEIST.
You are preaching atheism as if it were a religion.
"Atheism is a religion like abstinence is a sex position." -- Bill
Maher
Or like bald is a hair color.
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Jeanne Douglas
2017-11-14 04:15:32 UTC
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Official definitions of "atheism" and "atheist"
 https://www.define-atheism.com/
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atheism - absence of belief in deities
Linguistic structure
Absence (rather than opposition) is indicated by the "a-" prefix, meaning "without,"
hence "atheism" can be concisely characterized as "without theism."
Burden of proof
Since the "atheism" classification is not justified by claims for or against
theistic or anti-theistic positions, the burden of proof is not applicable.
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So if you call yourself a "freethinker" or "non-religious" or whatever AND you are
absent a belief in a god, then YOU ARE AN ATHEIST.
You are preaching atheism as if it were a religion.
Where?
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Robert Carnegie
2017-11-14 10:49:47 UTC
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Official definitions of "atheism" and "atheist"
  https://www.define-atheism.com/
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atheism - absence of belief in deities
Linguistic structure
Absence (rather than opposition) is indicated by the "a-" prefix, meaning "without,"
hence "atheism" can be concisely characterized as "without theism."
Burden of proof
Since the "atheism" classification is not justified by claims for or against
theistic or anti-theistic positions, the burden of proof is not applicable.
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So if you call yourself a "freethinker" or "non-religious" or whatever AND you are
absent a belief in a god, then YOU ARE AN ATHEIST.
You are preaching atheism as if it were a religion.
Not preaching. Describing.

However, I define atheism as not worshipping gods, and
I recommend it. You don't lose by it and it can free up
a lot of your time.

Some people are paid to worship gods, it's their job - but
the pay is usually lousy. Unless you use the god thing to
scare and cheat people into giving you lots and lots of money.
I must admit that this works for a bunch of people already
doing it, but it's a crowded market. Still, if honest work
isn't available or isn't attractive, you can consider
religious ministry. And whether the god approves of this
is entirely up to you!
Christopher A. Lee
2017-11-14 13:25:51 UTC
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Official definitions of "atheism" and "atheist"
  https://www.define-atheism.com/
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atheism - absence of belief in deities
Linguistic structure
Absence (rather than opposition) is indicated by the "a-" prefix, meaning "without,"
hence "atheism" can be concisely characterized as "without theism."
Burden of proof
Since the "atheism" classification is not justified by claims for or against
theistic or anti-theistic positions, the burden of proof is not applicable.
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So if you call yourself a "freethinker" or "non-religious" or whatever AND you are
absent a belief in a god, then YOU ARE AN ATHEIST.
You are preaching atheism as if it were a religion.
Not preaching. Describing.
I've never understood why these morons imagine they get to tell us
what it means to an atheist to be one, and then lie about us tp our
faces when we correct them.

In my first 40-odd years, I could count the number of jerks who did
this, on the fingers of one hand - but that was in England where
atheism isn't an issue for most people.
Jeanne Douglas
2017-11-15 00:27:52 UTC
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Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Official definitions of "atheism" and "atheist"
https://www.define-atheism.com/
------------------------------------------------------------------------
atheism - absence of belief in deities
Linguistic structure
Absence (rather than opposition) is indicated by the "a-" prefix,
meaning "without,"
hence "atheism" can be concisely characterized as "without theism."
Burden of proof
Since the "atheism" classification is not justified by claims for or against
theistic or anti-theistic positions, the burden of proof is not applicable.
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So if you call yourself a "freethinker" or "non-religious" or whatever
AND you are
absent a belief in a god, then YOU ARE AN ATHEIST.
You are preaching atheism as if it were a religion.
Not preaching. Describing.
I've never understood why these morons imagine they get to tell us
what it means to an atheist to be one, and then lie about us tp our
faces when we correct them.
In my first 40-odd years, I could count the number of jerks who did
this, on the fingers of one hand - but that was in England where
atheism isn't an issue for most people.
Oh, this week on Tracy Ullman, there's a sketch that shows the British attitude toward religion.
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2017-11-14 13:26:10 UTC
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Official definitions of "atheism" and "atheist"
  https://www.define-atheism.com/
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atheism - absence of belief in deities
Linguistic structure
Absence (rather than opposition) is indicated by the "a-" prefix, meaning "without,"
hence "atheism" can be concisely characterized as "without theism."
Burden of proof
Since the "atheism" classification is not justified by claims for or against
theistic or anti-theistic positions, the burden of proof is not applicable.
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So if you call yourself a "freethinker" or "non-religious" or whatever AND you are
absent a belief in a god, then YOU ARE AN ATHEIST.
You are preaching atheism as if it were a religion.
preach
verb

deliver a sermon or religious address to an assembled group of
people, typically in church.

The religious believe what they are told to believe, and like to think
that everyone is as gullible as they are. So, of course they try to
make atheism into a religion. If it were, then they could say that
atheists are in the grip of a cult just like they are.
!! Atheist ------------------------------
2017-11-14 13:43:29 UTC
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Official definitions of "atheism" and "atheist"
https://www.define-atheism.com/
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atheism - absence of belief in deities
Linguistic structure
Absence (rather than opposition) is indicated by the "a-" prefix, meaning "without,"
hence "atheism" can be concisely characterized as "without theism."
Burden of proof
Since the "atheism" classification is not justified by claims for or against
theistic or anti-theistic positions, the burden of proof is not applicable.
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So if you call yourself a "freethinker" or "non-religious" or whatever AND you are
absent a belief in a god, then YOU ARE AN ATHEIST.
You are preaching atheism as if it were a religion.
I gave you info about a word 'atheism', now you look up 'preaching' and 'religion'.

I suppose you might call every post 'preaching a religion'. Educate yourself.
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There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is *THE* foundation of Christianity.
Sycophant: a compulsive ass-kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.
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2017-11-14 15:00:06 UTC
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Official definitions of "atheism" and "atheist"
   https://www.define-atheism.com/
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atheism - absence of belief in deities
Linguistic structure
Absence (rather than opposition) is indicated by the "a-" prefix, meaning "without,"
hence "atheism" can be concisely characterized as "without theism."
Burden of proof
Since the "atheism" classification is not justified by claims for or against
theistic or anti-theistic positions, the burden of proof is not applicable.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
So if you call yourself a "freethinker" or "non-religious" or whatever AND you are
absent a belief in a god, then YOU ARE AN ATHEIST.
You are preaching atheism as if it were a religion.
I gave you info about a word 'atheism', now you look up 'preaching' and 'religion'.
[""" "atheism" classification is not justified by claims for or against
theistic or anti-theistic positions,"""]

Are you saying that people that discuss and promote and argue for
atheism and radicalized militants assaulting and attacking theism are
anti-theistic and are therefore NOT atheists?

The problem being that atheists don't stop at ["atheism" can be
concisely characterized as "without theism."] and instead these atheists
promote their belief that there is no God. Atheists take their lack of
theism and turned it into a religion by way of creating a belief around
it. Their belief is that God doesn't exist so therefore they can
organize and collectivize to stop other people from expressing their
belief in a God. *That's NOT a lack of anything*

If you give a definition then you need to confirm that it's applied to
the correct people. Which atheists are the ones NOT trying to stop
others from expressing their belief and aren't finding like minded
people to pay for and lend moral support for their law suits against
religions that do believe in Gods.

If as the definition says it's a simple lack of belief then you wouldn't
need to stop others from expressing their beliefs in public. If it were
a hazard or caused a loss of time for you then maybe, but just as a
stand against their belief? That's NOT atheism as defined by "without
theism". Without theism is NOT a movement or collective or a reason to
oppose...
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I suppose you might call every post 'preaching a religion'.  Educate
yourself.
NO, just the ones that espouse a belief. If you had evidence that God
does not or can not exist.... it would be a fact not a belief. You
don't preach facts you state the facts. SO unless atheists have evidence
and facts that prove their theory, they would be preaching when they
discuss it, that would make alt.atheism a place to preach atheism and it
makes atheism a religion.

Theism and atheism are two sides of the same coin, if atheism is a lack
of belief or without theism, then how could an atheist exist without
there first being a belief in God to not believe in.... an atheist
would not exist without a theist. An atheist wouldn't change their life
to oppose a theist they would ignore them, yet atheists choose to
believe that God does NOT exist rather than to choose to have a lack of
theism. Atheism is a creation of theism. By your own description
atheism is a passive lifestyle, but present day atheists have contorted
it to be an active militant resistance to theism.... making Atheism its
own religion.
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If Atheists demand scientific proof that GOD exists, why don't those
same Atheists demand scientific proof that gays and Global Warming exist?
Rick Johnson
2017-11-18 17:28:29 UTC
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Post by #BeamMeUpScotty
Are you saying that people that discuss and promote and
argue for atheism and radicalized militants militants
assaulting and attacking theism are anti-theistic and are
therefore NOT atheists?
Wow. This is a giant shit-smelling burrito constructed from
a false dichotomy filling wrapped tightly in a begging-the-
question tortilla, spiked with ghost-pepper "hate sauce",
and served passionately with a side of rancid, centuries-old
sour-taste-in-the-mouth cream.

First of all. You need to differentiate between opposition
to _ideas_ and opposition to _people_ and _institutions_
themselves. The former is merely a matter of civil discourse
(google is your friend). While the latter is highly
emotional.

However.

We must also understand that emotion is not _always_
unjustifiable. For instance. Those who have been the victims
of monsters created by the theistic teachings have a right
to be angry. And atheist are not the only group who are
angry about priest sex abuse, mass murder (both crusades
*AND* jihad), terrorism in the name of god (both Xian *AND*
mooslum[1]), and all the many social ills that are a direct
result of theistic teachings and/or dehumanization of those
who disagree.

In fact, many theists are opposed to these
"institutionalized behaviors" as well. But unfortunately,
they don't realize how their participation in religion is
justifying, or extending protection to, the exact same
behavoirs they scorn.

And while atheism is indeed defined as a _lack_ of a belief
in "god", and there is no denying that some atheist have
engaged in militant anti-theist behavior[2], generally,
the atheists who _DO_ make passionate argument against
theism are _not_ motivated by a hatred of theists, rather,
they are motivated by the rude behavior of theists (aka:
proselytize, dehumanization of non-believers, etc...).

Therefore, your feeble attempts to link passionate argument
with genocide are an abortion of logic. As the former is
_reasonable_ and _vital_ to social discourse and self
determination. While the latter is _unreasonable_ and
absolutely abhorrent.

Also, note, that the three aforementioned tyrants[2] were
not motivated by atheism to kill, rather, they were
motivated by a political ideology called Marxism. Marxism
assumes the extremist opinion that anyone who refuses
participation, or anyone who blocks or slows the progress
of, must be made an example of, and summarily exected. In
this manner, Marxism is inhumane and an absolutely
intolerant political ideology. And its barbaric tactics of
survival are borrowed from the most depraved and hateful
teachings of theistic religion.

But i digress...

So the final question remains: Can someone be atheist *AND*
anti-theist *AND* a raving lunatic murder? Of course they
can. Just as someone can be theist, anti anti-theist and a
raving murder -- or any other combination you might care to
assemble.

But try as i may -- because my goal has never been to defend
atheism -- i cannot find a link between atheism (a simple
lack of belief in a specific type of delusion) to genocidal
mania. But if you have some concrete evidence suggesting
otherwise, by all means, bring it to this discussion.
Post by #BeamMeUpScotty
The problem being that atheists don't stop at ["atheism"
can be concisely characterized as "without theism."] and
instead these atheists promote their belief that there is
no God.
_Who_ is _promoting_ atheism? Please name these people. And
if you think that when atheists fight against theist tyranny
such as:

(1) national holidays
(2) theist propaganda (from christmas trees in the public
square to "In Go We Trust" or "One Nation Under God")

then your definition of "promotong" is wrong. Working to
remove the "curtural legitimizing of religion", and the
various forms of theistic propaganda from our public
squares, money and "civic ritual ", is not _promoting_
atheism at all. It's merely removing state sanctioned
religious tyranny.
Post by #BeamMeUpScotty
Atheists take their lack of theism and turned it
into a religion by way of creating a belief around it.
Atheism is simply the _lack_ of a specific kind of mental
delusion. When will you understand this?

Is _not_ being bi-polar a religion?

Is _not_ being schizophrenic a religion?

Is _not_ being OCD a religion?

Is _not_ being a proselytizing asshole a religion?

Is _not_ suffering fools a religion?
Post by #BeamMeUpScotty
Their belief is that God doesn't exist so therefore they
can organize and collectivize to stop other people from
expressing their belief in a God.
Atheist do not wish to force any non-belief on you theist.
We merely want you to cease and desist with your contined,
systematic aggressions -- and outright tyranny -- against
the naturally autonomous nature of the human mind. So,
believe what ever _you_ want to believe. But stop filling
other people's minds (including children!) with lies. And
stop exploiting the emotional controls of the mind to serve
your collectively malevolent intentions.
Post by #BeamMeUpScotty
*That's NOT a lack of anything*
Sadly, you lack an understanding of how your intentions (and
those of your ideological ilk) are as tyrannical as king
george, marxism and/or radical islam. Congratulations. You
make common cause with some of the worst people in human
history.
Post by #BeamMeUpScotty
If you give a definition then you need to confirm that it's
applied to the correct people. Which atheists are the ones
NOT trying to stop others from expressing their belief and
aren't finding like minded people to pay for and lend moral
support for their law suits against religions that do
believe in Gods.
Double congratulations! Now you're undermining both the
letter and the spirit of the American Constitution! Do you
respect the values of liberty codified by the Constitution
or not? Do you respect the spirit of the law as defined in
the first amendment?

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of
religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;"

BUT WAIT!

THERE'S MORE!

And while congress has indeed made no law _establishing_ a
state religion, the fact that you theists can infest the
public square with your religious symbols (which are
propaganda!), and furthermore, the fact that you do so
without consideration of any other religion (aka: Xianity
exclusivity!) proves that congress is allowing you theists
to violate the _spirit_ of the law via a loophole in the
_letter_.

And in no way does the first amendment justify (neither by
letter, nor by spirit) the _ramming_ of religion down the
throats of the minority via the will of X-insanity majority.

In fact, the wise founders of america knew all-to-well the
dangers of the mob, and set forth to design the american
_republic_ in a manner that would protect, not only the
minority from the tyrannical will of the _majority_ (aka:
the mob!), but also, the entire populance from the
tyrannical will of _government_.

Which means that you either (1) don't truely understand the
principles of freedom, liberty and self determination, *OR*,
(2) you _do_ understand them, and you are willing to
undermine these principles for the sake of your pet
delusion. Think about that for a while. And then ask
yourself. What's more important: religion or freedom? And if
your answer is religion, then you do do not respect the
humanitarian principles, which form the foundations of the
american republic.

As a thought experiment:

Imagine if america were predominately mooslim[3]. How would
you feel if islam were shoved down your throat; and
showcased during multiple annual events in public square;
and force- fed to your children at schools? I bet you
wouldn't like it one bit!

Well, congratulations asshole!

Now you know how atheist feel!

You theist need to understand one thing. And listen
carefully! We will _not_ stand by idle as you to attempt to
justify your tyranny with loopholes in the law. And this
widespread belief by you christians that a history of
religious tyranny somehow justifies, or sets some sort of
legal precedent for the continuation of this jack-booted
tyranny, will _not_ be tolerated. The days of religious
tyranny are coming quickly to end.

*YOU*, and your theist friends, are on the wrong side of
history.
Post by #BeamMeUpScotty
If as the definition says it's a simple lack of belief then
you wouldn't need to stop others from expressing their
beliefs in public. If it were a hazard or caused a loss of
time for you then maybe, but just as a stand against their
belief? That's NOT atheism as defined by "without theism".
Without theism is NOT a movement or collective or a reason
to oppose...
We're not standing *AGAINST* your _beliefs_. We are standing
*WITH* those who have not _yet_ been been infected with your
god delusion. Why can't you understand the difference?
Post by #BeamMeUpScotty
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I suppose you might call every post 'preaching a
religion'. Educate yourself.
NO, just the ones that espouse a belief. If you had
evidence that God does not or can not exist.... it would be
a fact not a belief. You don't preach facts you state the
facts. SO unless atheists have evidence and facts that
prove their theory, they would be preaching when they
discuss it, that would make alt.atheism a place to preach
atheism and it makes atheism a religion. Theism and
atheism are two sides of the same coin, if atheism is a
lack of belief or without theism, then how could an atheist
exist without there first being a belief in God to not
believe in....
Oh brother. You really are a lost cause... :-(
Post by #BeamMeUpScotty
an atheist would not exist without a theist.
And just when i thought we had hit rock bottom, he starts
flapping his gums again. >:-(
Post by #BeamMeUpScotty
An atheist wouldn't change their life to oppose a theist
they would ignore them, yet atheists choose to believe that
God does NOT exist rather than to choose to have a lack of
theism. Atheism is a creation of theism. By your own
description atheism is a passive lifestyle, but present day
atheists have contorted it to be an active militant
resistance to theism.... making Atheism its own religion.
*Face palm*

And now i know why your jesus myth wept.


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[1] aka: A bovine ghetto.
[2] from the simple folk like myself who actively try to
expose the lies and hypocrisy of religion, to the murdering
bastards (aka: The Usual Suspects: Stalin, Lennin, Mao,
etc...)
[3] aka: Michelle Obamas new pet project to fight bovine
obesity.

Atlatl Axolotl
2017-11-14 16:27:19 UTC
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Official definitions of "atheism" and "atheist"
https://www.define-atheism.com/
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atheism - absence of belief in deities
Linguistic structure
Absence (rather than opposition) is indicated by the "a-" prefix, meaning "without,"
hence "atheism" can be concisely characterized as "without theism."
Burden of proof
Since the "atheism" classification is not justified by claims for or against
theistic or anti-theistic positions, the burden of proof is not applicable.
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So if you call yourself a "freethinker" or "non-religious" or whatever AND you are
absent a belief in a god, then YOU ARE AN ATHEIST.
--
There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is *THE* foundation of Christianity.
Sycophant: a compulsive ass-kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.
Words mean what the people who use those words mean by them.

"Atheism" is a word with multiple shades of meaning, and different
people use it to indicate varying philosophical stances.

And etymology is descriptive, not prescriptive. The same is true
of dictionary definitions.

If the word had a single, widely agreed-upon meanng, we wouldn't
be having this very discussion endlessly.

Atlatl Axolotl
Christopher A. Lee
2017-11-14 17:23:03 UTC
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Official definitions of "atheism" and "atheist"
https://www.define-atheism.com/
------------------------------------------------------------------------
atheism - absence of belief in deities
Linguistic structure
Absence (rather than opposition) is indicated by the "a-" prefix, meaning "without,"
hence "atheism" can be concisely characterized as "without theism."
Burden of proof
Since the "atheism" classification is not justified by claims for or against
theistic or anti-theistic positions, the burden of proof is not applicable.
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So if you call yourself a "freethinker" or "non-religious" or whatever AND you are
absent a belief in a god, then YOU ARE AN ATHEIST.
--
There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is *THE* foundation of Christianity.
Sycophant: a compulsive ass-kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.
Words mean what the people who use those words mean by them.
"Atheism" is a word with multiple shades of meaning, and different
people use it to indicate varying philosophical stances.
And etymology is descriptive, not prescriptive. The same is true
of dictionary definitions.
If the word had a single, widely agreed-upon meanng, we wouldn't
be having this very discussion endlessly.
It's just deliberately rude religionists. They can't grasp that _we_
get say what our own POV is - they don't get to cherry pick a
definition which fits their ignorant prejudice, we get to tell them
which one describes us.
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2017-11-15 09:22:23 UTC
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Official definitions of "atheism" and "atheist"
https://www.define-atheism.com/
------------------------------------------------------------------------
atheism - absence of belief in deities
Linguistic structure
Absence (rather than opposition) is indicated by the "a-" prefix, meaning "without,"
hence "atheism" can be concisely characterized as "without theism."
Burden of proof
Since the "atheism" classification is not justified by claims for or against
theistic or anti-theistic positions, the burden of proof is not applicable.
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So if you call yourself a "freethinker" or "non-religious" or whatever AND you are
absent a belief in a god, then YOU ARE AN ATHEIST.
"Atheism" is a word with multiple shades of meaning, and different
people use it to indicate varying philosophical stances.
I simply post what most atheists mean by "atheist"; we don't agree with the
demonizing definitions that have long been spewed from religion's pulpits.
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There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is *THE* foundation of Christianity.
Sycophant: a compulsive ass-kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.
duke
2017-11-15 12:05:41 UTC
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Official definitions of "atheism" and "atheist"
https://www.define-atheism.com/
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atheism - absence of belief in deities
Atheism

Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of
deities. *****In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that
there are no deities.***** Most inclusively, atheism is the absence of belief
that any deities exist. Atheism is contrasted with theism, which, in its most
general form, is the belief that at least one deity exists.
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Linguistic structure
Absence (rather than opposition) is indicated by the "a-" prefix, meaning "without,"
hence "atheism" can be concisely characterized as "without theism."
the dukester, American-American


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2017-11-16 06:09:28 UTC
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Official definitions of "atheism" and "atheist"
https://www.define-atheism.com/
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atheism - absence of belief in deities
Atheism
Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of
deities. *****In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that
there are no deities.***** Most inclusively, atheism is the absence of belief
that any deities exist. Atheism is contrasted with theism, which, in its most
general form, is the belief that at least one deity exists.
Yes, duke, that's just as we've been saying; gold star to you.
"In a broad sense" all atheists reject (hence, absent) belief in a god.
"In a narrower sense" (i.e. *some* atheists, I'm one) assert there are no gods.
"Most inclusively, atheism is the absence of belief".

i.e. we don't believe you when you say there is a god.
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Linguistic structure
Absence (rather than opposition) is indicated by the "a-" prefix, meaning "without,"
hence "atheism" can be concisely characterized as "without theism."
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There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is *THE* foundation of Christianity.
Sycophant: a compulsive ass-kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.
duke
2017-11-16 22:19:54 UTC
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Official definitions of "atheism" and "atheist"
https://www.define-atheism.com/
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atheism - absence of belief in deities
Atheism
Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of
deities. *****In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that
there are no deities.***** Most inclusively, atheism is the absence of belief
that any deities exist. Atheism is contrasted with theism, which, in its most
general form, is the belief that at least one deity exists.
Yes, duke, that's just as we've been saying; gold star to you.
"In a broad sense" all atheists reject (hence, absent) belief in a god.
"In a narrower sense" (i.e. *some* atheists, I'm one) assert there are no gods.
"Most inclusively, atheism is the absence of belief".
i.e. we don't believe you when you say there is a god.
I quote the evidence. I've asked over and over for you atheists to present some
evidence to use to even come close to professing there is no God.

Whether you a) don't believe or b) reject, it would seen that you can offer a
reason, any reason, for your position.

As a Roman Catholic, I have stated over and over my evidence (not proof) for the
existence of God. Never has an atheist even tried to explain their position
other than pure unsupported desire to say "there is no God".

That leaves us Roman Catholics no other choice but to ridicule your unsupported
position.

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Official definitions of "atheism" and "atheist"
https://www.define-atheism.com/
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atheism - absence of belief in deities
Atheism
Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of
deities. *****In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that
there are no deities.***** Most inclusively, atheism is the absence of belief
that any deities exist. Atheism is contrasted with theism, which, in its most
general form, is the belief that at least one deity exists.
Yes, duke, that's just as we've been saying; gold star to you.
"In a broad sense" all atheists reject (hence, absent) belief in a god.
"In a narrower sense" (i.e. *some* atheists, I'm one) assert there are no gods.
"Most inclusively, atheism is the absence of belief".
i.e. we don't believe you when you say there is a god.
Whether you a) don't believe or b) reject, it would seen that you can offer a
reason, any reason, for your position.
My reason:
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For 300,000 years of human existence, billions of people have been straining
themselves to find any smidgen of evidence of a god, yet we don't have even
one little bit of verifiable evidence, and theists have all kinds of goofy
excuses why their alleged gods remain in hiding from us. I say that's
strong evidence that no god exists, at least for any god who wants us to
know it exists (e.g. the alleged Judaism/Christian/Islam god). That is far
stronger evidence than for 'no tooth-fairy exists'.
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There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
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Extortion (Believe or Burn) is *THE* foundation of Christianity.
Sycophant: a compulsive ass-kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.
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2017-11-18 11:46:10 UTC
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On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 12:40:50 -0800, "!! Atheist ------------------------------"
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Official definitions of "atheism" and "atheist"
https://www.define-atheism.com/
------------------------------------------------------------------------
atheism - absence of belief in deities
Atheism
Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of
deities. *****In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that
there are no deities.***** Most inclusively, atheism is the absence of belief
that any deities exist. Atheism is contrasted with theism, which, in its most
general form, is the belief that at least one deity exists.
Yes, duke, that's just as we've been saying; gold star to you.
"In a broad sense" all atheists reject (hence, absent) belief in a god.
"In a narrower sense" (i.e. *some* atheists, I'm one) assert there are no gods.
"Most inclusively, atheism is the absence of belief".
i.e. we don't believe you when you say there is a god.
I quote the evidence.
No you don't.
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I've asked over and over for you atheists to present some
evidence to use to even come close to professing there is no God.
And we keep telling you that it's theistic lack of evidence that supports atheism.
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Whether you a) don't believe or b) reject, it would seen that you can offer a
reason, any reason, for your position.
Yup, lack of evidence for gods.
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As a Roman Catholic, I have stated over and over my evidence (not proof) for the
existence of God. Never has an atheist even tried to explain their position
other than pure unsupported desire to say "there is no God".
That leaves us Roman Catholics no other choice but to ridicule your unsupported
position.
the dukester, American-American
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The Catholic Church is like a thick steak, a glass of red wine
and a good cigar.
G.K. Chesterton
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