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Bob
2017-06-16 07:34:15 UTC
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2017-06-16 08:25:06 UTC
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<http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2016/06/07/what-do-physicists-
think-of-michio-kaku/>

<http://tinyurl.com/j32bskg>

<http://undsci.berkeley.edu/article/howscienceworks_16>

<http://tinyurl.com/3p4e7mx>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Darwin>

<http://tinyurl.com/jyzjfar>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregor_Mendel>

<http://tinyurl.com/pcqylyj>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution>

<http://tinyurl.com/7vw8ozk>

<http://www.famousscientists.org/charles-darwin/>

<http://tinyurl.com/jpr7p5v>

<http://darwin-online.org.uk/biography.html>

<http://tinyurl.com/5p6znj>
John Ritson
2017-06-16 10:07:28 UTC
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Two bozos agreeing that dragonflies move in complicated ways and so this
has to be designed.
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2017-06-18 12:56:57 UTC
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Two bozos agreeing that dragonflies move in complicated ways and so
this has to be designed.
Can you design a dragon fly?
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2017-06-18 14:56:52 UTC
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Two bozos agreeing that dragonflies move in complicated ways and so
this has to be designed.
Can you design a dragon fly?
People have designed drones, but you would just call that another
example of "intelligent design".

Can you give us an example of anything that you claim was not designed
by the 'Creator'?
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2017-06-18 17:10:28 UTC
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Two bozos agreeing that dragonflies move in complicated ways and so
this has to be designed.
Can you design a dragon fly?
Evolution sure did:

<http://scienceblogs.com/evolutionblog/2014/12/19/intelligent-design-
still-dead/>

<http://tinyurl.com/kwyrtku>

<http://www.patheos.com/blogs/danthropology/2014/08/ken-hams-10-facts-
that-prove-creationism-debunked/>

<http://tinyurl.com/hor4bam>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitzmiller_v._Dover_Area_School_District>

<http://tinyurl.com/bmxa4rc>

<https://sphericalbullshit.wordpress.com/2013/05/02/what-i-would-say-
to-creationists-if-i-was-more-of-a-dick/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zascach>

<https://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/philosop/creation.htm>

<http://tinyurl.com/kzzmt4g>

<http://www.skepticblog.org/2013/08/28/stephen-meyers-fumbling-bumbling-
amateur-cambrian-follies/>

<http://tinyurl.com/grmdhtv>

<http://americanloons.blogspot.com/search?q=stephen+myers>

<http://tinyurl.com/zlcp8u9>

<http://donaldprothero.com/quotes.html>

<http://tinyurl.com/hp2vd4v>

<http://americanloons.blogspot.com/search?q=Lee+Strobel%27s>

<http://tinyurl.com/zbl54ww>



<http://tinyurl.com/j9nkey5>

<https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK6360/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zvyyhxn>

<http://listverse.com/2011/11/19/8-examples-of-evolution-in-action/>

<http://tinyurl.com/c72j7wv>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_replication>

<http://tinyurl.com/goxgec9>

<https://edthemanicstreetpreacher.wordpress.com/2010/04/09/dawkins-
berlinski/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zmv3xf2>

<https://www.theguardian.com/science/head-quarters/2014/feb/06/22-
answers-creationism-evolution-bill-nye-ken-ham-debate>

<http://tinyurl.com/hwjf83d>

<http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/dumb-things-creationists-
say/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zq9wt5k>

<http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/20/magazine/unintelligent-design.html?
_r=0>

<http://tinyurl.com/h7ubjta>

<http://www.eoht.info/page/Creationism+scientists+ranked+by+idiocy>

<http://tinyurl.com/h5y2gao>

<https://www.chess.com/groups/forumview/18-creationist-arguments-
debunked>

<http://tinyurl.com/zb7sfyr>

<http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Category:Creationism>

<http://tinyurl.com/zt8dycq>

<https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/jan/28/creation-origin-life-
future-adam-rutherford-review>

<http://tinyurl.com/hsj6u6y>

<http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2016/06/07/what-do-physicists-
think-of-michio-kaku/>

<http://tinyurl.com/j32bskg>

<http://undsci.berkeley.edu/article/howscienceworks_16>

<http://tinyurl.com/3p4e7mx>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Darwin>

<http://tinyurl.com/jyzjfar>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregor_Mendel>

<http://tinyurl.com/pcqylyj>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution>

<http://tinyurl.com/7vw8ozk>

<http://www.famousscientists.org/charles-darwin/>

<http://tinyurl.com/jpr7p5v>

<http://darwin-online.org.uk/biography.html>

<http://tinyurl.com/5p6znj>

"Creation science" has not entered the curriculum for a reason so
simple and so basic that we often forget to mention it: because it is
false, and because good teachers understand exactly why it is false.
What could be more destructive of that most fragile yet most precious
commodity in our entire intellectual heritage -- good teaching -- than
a bill forcing honourable teachers to sully their sacred trust by
granting equal treatment to a doctrine not only known to be false, but
calculated to undermine any general understanding of science as an
enterprise? - Stephen Jay Gould.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Jay_Gould>

<http://tinyurl.com/jc3ckub>

<http://www.journals.elsevier.com/journal-of-human-evolution>

<http://tinyurl.com/jsalxfe>

<http://americanloons.blogspot.com/search?q=macarthur>

<http://tinyurl.com/jenrqkq>

<http://www.annualreviews.org/journal/ecolsys>

<http://tinyurl.com/z8o6zan>

<http://www.cell.com/trends/ecology-evolution/home>

<http://tinyurl.com/pwg6fak>



<http://tinyurl.com/hy7xymb>

<http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Falldidit#Falldidit>

<http://tinyurl.com/z4z77ra>
Malcolm McMahon
2017-06-16 10:56:17 UTC
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To Summarise: The arguments for creationism that you've found online are:

The second law of thermodynamics applies to far from equilibrium systems (which nobody who knows thermodynamics would claim).

Life is just too damn _complicated_ to have evolved "by chance".

Mostly the second.
Bob
2017-06-16 12:14:40 UTC
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The second law of thermodynamics applies to far from equilibrium
systems (which nobody who knows thermodynamics would claim).
Life is just too damn _complicated_ to have evolved "by chance".
Mostly the second.
Here we go again.

I don't recall ever even mentioning the Second Law of Thermodynamics
in any of my posts. I'm going to have to ask you to please, when you make
those kind of assertions about something (you think) I've done, accompany
them with the date and time of the post. Otherwise, I will just ignore
them.
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respond with either personal insults, twisted logic and reasoning along
with semantics with excessive detail of complete speculation presented
as truth, to deviate from the critical argument at hand, and talk at
cross purposes to evade it." --Retro
Malcolm McMahon
2017-06-16 12:31:18 UTC
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The second law of thermodynamics applies to far from equilibrium
systems (which nobody who knows thermodynamics would claim).
Life is just too damn _complicated_ to have evolved "by chance".
Mostly the second.
Here we go again.
I don't recall ever even mentioning the Second Law of Thermodynamics
in any of my posts. I'm going to have to ask you to please, when you make
those kind of assertions about something (you think) I've done, accompany
them with the date and time of the post. Otherwise, I will just ignore
them.
Sorry, that would be aaaa - I don't find it worth making the distinction.

Still; have you got a third argument?
aaa
2017-06-17 04:00:44 UTC
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The second law of thermodynamics applies to far from equilibrium
systems (which nobody who knows thermodynamics would claim).
I'm glad you can understand this simple point than Mr. Cloud who doesn't
seem to be able to apply the second law to a non-equilibrium system.
However, you fail to realize the fundamental difference between the
non-equilibrium system in the lifeless physical world and the one in
life. This is a key point in understanding why evolution is wrong. The
one in the lifeless physical world follows the second law. The one in
life moves against the second law. This is why things in the lifeless
physical world will become corrupt over time while life can improve and
advance to become more complicated over time. By understanding the cause
of such non-equilibrium system in life that is intelligence, one can
logically conclude that life has to be God's intelligent design. This is
just simple logic. There is nothing complicated in proving evolution wrong.
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Life is just too damn _complicated_ to have evolved "by chance".
Mostly the second.
Here we go again.
I don't recall ever even mentioning the Second Law of Thermodynamics
in any of my posts. I'm going to have to ask you to please, when you make
those kind of assertions about something (you think) I've done, accompany
them with the date and time of the post. Otherwise, I will just ignore
them.
Sorry, that would be aaaa - I don't find it worth making the distinction.
Thanks. I see I have made some progress in explaining the second law and
its philosophical implications to life.
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Still; have you got a third argument?
The first argument is more than good enough to refute evolution.
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Melzzzzz
2017-06-17 04:08:39 UTC
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The second law of thermodynamics applies to far from equilibrium
systems (which nobody who knows thermodynamics would claim).
I'm glad you can understand this simple point than Mr. Cloud who doesn't
seem to be able to apply the second law to a non-equilibrium system.
However, you fail to realize the fundamental difference between the
non-equilibrium system in the lifeless physical world and the one in
life. This is a key point in understanding why evolution is wrong. The
one in the lifeless physical world follows the second law. The one in
life moves against the second law. This is why things in the lifeless
physical world will become corrupt over time while life can improve and
advance to become more complicated over time. By understanding the cause
of such non-equilibrium system in life that is intelligence, one can
logically conclude that life has to be God's intelligent design. This is
just simple logic. There is nothing complicated in proving evolution wrong.
How did you conclude that? There is no single explanation how God came
into existence. You simply moved mixing link on another level while
living original question unanswered. God is not the answer. God is
another question.
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Christopher A. Lee
2017-06-17 04:54:13 UTC
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The second law of thermodynamics applies to far from equilibrium
systems (which nobody who knows thermodynamics would claim).
I'm glad you can understand this simple point than Mr. Cloud who doesn't
seem to be able to apply the second law to a non-equilibrium system.
The Niunian-liar doesn't even know what the 2LOT is. He just insists
it somehow refutes observed phenomena that won't un-happen.
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However, you fail to realize the fundamental difference between the
non-equilibrium system in the lifeless physical world and the one in
life.
Sometimes, the only possible response to somebody who can't think and
refuses to learn, is...

What a fucking moron. A liar as well as an idiot.
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This is a key point in understanding why evolution is wrong. The
Liar, liar. Pants on fire.
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one in the lifeless physical world follows the second law. The one in
life moves against the second law.
Liar.

An isolated system is a theoretical limit condition, rather like an
ideal gas.

To obtain a totally isolated system requires no way to transfer energy
into or out of it from the surrounding environment - which would
require a perfect insulator.

So the only isolated system is the universe, itself - and until its
theoretical heat death when the energy distribution is completely
even, there are regions which are constantly being supplied with
energy - like the solar system and Earth's biosphere until the sun
eventually burns out in billions of years, by which time there will be
no Earth anyway because it will be inside the sun's red giant stage.

Which the liar has had explained over and over again.

But he refuses to learn, and lets liars like Duane Gish (who invented
the creationist misuse of the 2LOT) do his thinking for him.

I don't understand the mentality, but we see it here from creationists
all the time.

They don't understand the results of objective scientific research so
they go to his lies about it on the ICR web site and repeat them here
- and these lies include mined, out-of-context quoted from the
original researchers to make it look as if their results never
happened.
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This is why things in the lifeless
physical world will become corrupt over time while life can improve and
Idiot.
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advance to become more complicated over time. By understanding the cause
of such non-equilibrium system in life that is intelligence, one can
logically conclude that life has to be God's intelligent design. This is
Liar. There is no way to reach that conclusion. Heck, these morons
have never provided any real world justification for this hypothetical
god.

They always beg the question....

WHAT FUCKING GOD?
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just simple logic. There is nothing complicated in proving evolution wrong.
Of course it isn't, proven serial liar. It is a set of observed
phenomena which won't un-happen, with causes and mechanisms that are
so well understood that they have led to entire new spinoff sciences
and technologies like biotech and its applications in medicine and
agriculture, like forensic DNA identification, etc.
Post by Melzzzzz
How did you conclude that? There is no single explanation how God came
into existence. You simply moved mixing link on another level while
living original question unanswered. God is not the answer. God is
another question.
None of these morons ever justify their imaginary magical superbeing
they call "God". It's always a presumption - theirs, not ours.

But instead of providing the necessary scientific evidence when they
invoke it in the scientific arena, they always talk as if it were
already universally granted.

The Niunian loonie is a perfect example of religion as mental illness.
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2017-06-17 05:26:30 UTC
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The second law of thermodynamics applies to far from equilibrium
systems (which nobody who knows thermodynamics would claim).
I'm glad you can understand this simple point than Mr. Cloud who doesn't
seem to be able to apply the second law to a non-equilibrium system.
However, you fail to realize the fundamental difference between the
non-equilibrium system in the lifeless physical world and the one in
life. This is a key point in understanding why evolution is wrong. The
one in the lifeless physical world follows the second law. The one in
life moves against the second law. This is why things in the lifeless
physical world will become corrupt over time while life can improve and
advance to become more complicated over time. By understanding the cause
of such non-equilibrium system in life that is intelligence, one can
logically conclude that life has to be God's intelligent design. This is
just simple logic. There is nothing complicated in proving evolution wrong.
How did you conclude that? There is no single explanation how God came
into existence. You simply moved mixing link on another level while
living original question unanswered. God is not the answer. God is
another question.
Intelligence is non-physical. It's one of the evidence of God. When
intelligence is proven to be the determining factor to create the
non-equilibrium system in life, it has indicated the work of God in
creating life.
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Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, peace, freedom, and life itself.
Melzzzzz
2017-06-17 05:29:17 UTC
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The second law of thermodynamics applies to far from equilibrium
systems (which nobody who knows thermodynamics would claim).
I'm glad you can understand this simple point than Mr. Cloud who doesn't
seem to be able to apply the second law to a non-equilibrium system.
However, you fail to realize the fundamental difference between the
non-equilibrium system in the lifeless physical world and the one in
life. This is a key point in understanding why evolution is wrong. The
one in the lifeless physical world follows the second law. The one in
life moves against the second law. This is why things in the lifeless
physical world will become corrupt over time while life can improve and
advance to become more complicated over time. By understanding the cause
of such non-equilibrium system in life that is intelligence, one can
logically conclude that life has to be God's intelligent design. This is
just simple logic. There is nothing complicated in proving evolution wrong.
How did you conclude that? There is no single explanation how God came
into existence. You simply moved mixing link on another level while
living original question unanswered. God is not the answer. God is
another question.
Intelligence is non-physical. It's one of the evidence of God.
How so?

When
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intelligence is proven to be the determining factor to create the
non-equilibrium system in life, it has indicated the work of God in
creating life.
You haven't answered basic question: How God came into existence?
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The second law of thermodynamics applies to far from equilibrium
systems (which nobody who knows thermodynamics would claim).
I'm glad you can understand this simple point than Mr. Cloud who doesn't
seem to be able to apply the second law to a non-equilibrium system.
However, you fail to realize the fundamental difference between the
non-equilibrium system in the lifeless physical world and the one in
life. This is a key point in understanding why evolution is wrong. The
one in the lifeless physical world follows the second law. The one in
life moves against the second law. This is why things in the lifeless
physical world will become corrupt over time while life can improve and
advance to become more complicated over time. By understanding the cause
of such non-equilibrium system in life that is intelligence, one can
logically conclude that life has to be God's intelligent design. This is
just simple logic. There is nothing complicated in proving evolution wrong.
How did you conclude that? There is no single explanation how God came
into existence. You simply moved mixing link on another level while
living original question unanswered. God is not the answer. God is
another question.
Intelligence is non-physical. It's one of the evidence of God.
How so?
By being non-physical, it has to be spiritual if it's real. There is no
other alternative. Unless you can deny intelligence as being real, you
have no choice but to admit it's the evidence of the spiritual which
means it's one of the evidence of God.
Post by Melzzzzz
When
Post by aaa
intelligence is proven to be the determining factor to create the
non-equilibrium system in life, it has indicated the work of God in
creating life.
You haven't answered basic question: How God came into existence?
That is never a question. God exists eternally before the universe came
into existence.
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Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, peace, freedom, and life itself.
Melzzzzz
2017-06-19 04:53:15 UTC
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The second law of thermodynamics applies to far from equilibrium
systems (which nobody who knows thermodynamics would claim).
I'm glad you can understand this simple point than Mr. Cloud who doesn't
seem to be able to apply the second law to a non-equilibrium system.
However, you fail to realize the fundamental difference between the
non-equilibrium system in the lifeless physical world and the one in
life. This is a key point in understanding why evolution is wrong. The
one in the lifeless physical world follows the second law. The one in
life moves against the second law. This is why things in the lifeless
physical world will become corrupt over time while life can improve and
advance to become more complicated over time. By understanding the cause
of such non-equilibrium system in life that is intelligence, one can
logically conclude that life has to be God's intelligent design. This is
just simple logic. There is nothing complicated in proving evolution wrong.
How did you conclude that? There is no single explanation how God came
into existence. You simply moved mixing link on another level while
living original question unanswered. God is not the answer. God is
another question.
Intelligence is non-physical. It's one of the evidence of God.
How so?
By being non-physical, it has to be spiritual if it's real. There is no
other alternative. Unless you can deny intelligence as being real, you
have no choice but to admit it's the evidence of the spiritual which
means it's one of the evidence of God.
It is not evidence of God in no way...
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When
Post by aaa
intelligence is proven to be the determining factor to create the
non-equilibrium system in life, it has indicated the work of God in
creating life.
You haven't answered basic question: How God came into existence?
That is never a question. God exists eternally before the universe came
into existence.
Hm. You can easilly eliminate God and say same for universe and life..
See, there is no need for God...
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The second law of thermodynamics applies to far from equilibrium
systems (which nobody who knows thermodynamics would claim).
I'm glad you can understand this simple point than Mr. Cloud who doesn't
seem to be able to apply the second law to a non-equilibrium system.
However, you fail to realize the fundamental difference between the
non-equilibrium system in the lifeless physical world and the one in
life. This is a key point in understanding why evolution is wrong. The
one in the lifeless physical world follows the second law. The one in
life moves against the second law. This is why things in the lifeless
physical world will become corrupt over time while life can improve and
advance to become more complicated over time. By understanding the cause
of such non-equilibrium system in life that is intelligence, one can
logically conclude that life has to be God's intelligent design. This is
just simple logic. There is nothing complicated in proving evolution wrong.
How did you conclude that? There is no single explanation how God came
into existence. You simply moved mixing link on another level while
living original question unanswered. God is not the answer. God is
another question.
Intelligence is non-physical. It's one of the evidence of God.
How so?
By being non-physical, it has to be spiritual if it's real. There is no
other alternative. Unless you can deny intelligence as being real, you
have no choice but to admit it's the evidence of the spiritual which
means it's one of the evidence of God.
It is not evidence of God in no way...
Why? I have demonstrated my logic. What's your reason to deny such
simple logic?
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When
Post by aaa
intelligence is proven to be the determining factor to create the
non-equilibrium system in life, it has indicated the work of God in
creating life.
You haven't answered basic question: How God came into existence?
That is never a question. God exists eternally before the universe came
into existence.
Hm. You can easilly eliminate God and say same for universe and life..
See, there is no need for God...
No. You can only blindly ignore God by ignoring the spiritual evidence
that are essential to life. You are blinded by what you see and can't
realize that which makes you see.
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God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, peace, freedom, and life itself.
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To Summarise: The arguments for creationism that you've found online
The second law of thermodynamics applies to far from equilibrium
systems (which nobody who knows thermodynamics would claim).
I'm glad you can understand this simple point than Mr. Cloud who doesn't
seem to be able to apply the second law to a non-equilibrium system.
However, you fail to realize the fundamental difference between the
non-equilibrium system in the lifeless physical world and the one in
life. This is a key point in understanding why evolution is wrong. The
one in the lifeless physical world follows the second law. The one in
life moves against the second law. This is why things in the lifeless
physical world will become corrupt over time while life can improve and
advance to become more complicated over time. By understanding the cause
of such non-equilibrium system in life that is intelligence, one can
logically conclude that life has to be God's intelligent design. This is
just simple logic. There is nothing complicated in proving evolution wrong.
How did you conclude that? There is no single explanation how God came
into existence. You simply moved mixing link on another level while
living original question unanswered. God is not the answer. God is
another question.
Intelligence is non-physical. It's one of the evidence of God.
How so?
By being non-physical, it has to be spiritual if it's real. There is no
other alternative. Unless you can deny intelligence as being real, you
have no choice but to admit it's the evidence of the spiritual which
means it's one of the evidence of God.
It is not evidence of God in no way...
Why? I have demonstrated my logic. What's your reason to deny such
simple logic?
Becuase it is wrong. Something may seem logical, but still be untrue.
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intelligence is proven to be the determining factor to create the
non-equilibrium system in life, it has indicated the work of God in
creating life.
You haven't answered basic question: How God came into existence?
That is never a question. God exists eternally before the universe came
into existence.
Hm. You can easilly eliminate God and say same for universe and life..
See, there is no need for God...
No. You can only blindly ignore God by ignoring the spiritual evidence
that are essential to life.
There is no such thing as spiritual evidence.

You are blinded by what you see and can't
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I fully realize that it is how my eyes have evolved that allows me to see.
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To Summarise: The arguments for creationism that you've found online
The second law of thermodynamics applies to far from equilibrium
systems (which nobody who knows thermodynamics would claim).
I'm glad you can understand this simple point than Mr. Cloud who doesn't
seem to be able to apply the second law to a non-equilibrium system.
However, you fail to realize the fundamental difference between the
non-equilibrium system in the lifeless physical world and the one in
life. This is a key point in understanding why evolution is wrong. The
one in the lifeless physical world follows the second law. The one in
life moves against the second law. This is why things in the lifeless
physical world will become corrupt over time while life can improve and
advance to become more complicated over time. By understanding the cause
of such non-equilibrium system in life that is intelligence, one can
logically conclude that life has to be God's intelligent design. This is
just simple logic. There is nothing complicated in proving evolution wrong.
How did you conclude that? There is no single explanation how God came
into existence. You simply moved mixing link on another level while
living original question unanswered. God is not the answer. God is
another question.
Intelligence is non-physical. It's one of the evidence of God.
How so?
By being non-physical, it has to be spiritual if it's real. There is no
other alternative. Unless you can deny intelligence as being real, you
have no choice but to admit it's the evidence of the spiritual which
means it's one of the evidence of God.
It is not evidence of God in no way...
Why? I have demonstrated my logic. What's your reason to deny such
simple logic?
Becuase it is wrong. Something may seem logical, but still be untrue.
Except you can't prove it is wrong.
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intelligence is proven to be the determining factor to create the
non-equilibrium system in life, it has indicated the work of God in
creating life.
You haven't answered basic question: How God came into existence?
That is never a question. God exists eternally before the universe came
into existence.
Hm. You can easilly eliminate God and say same for universe and life..
See, there is no need for God...
No. You can only blindly ignore God by ignoring the spiritual evidence
that are essential to life.
There is no such thing as spiritual evidence.
That's just blind denial.
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You are blinded by what you see and can't
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realize that which makes you see.
I fully realize that it is how my eyes have evolved that allows me to see.
Obviously your philosophical understanding is non-existent. You are
incapable to discuss anything philosophically. What would you say if I
change the word "see" with the word "understand" in my above statement?
Can your physical eyes understand anything?
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Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, peace, freedom, and life itself.
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2017-06-22 03:08:10 UTC
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To Summarise: The arguments for creationism that you've found online
The second law of thermodynamics applies to far from equilibrium
systems (which nobody who knows thermodynamics would claim).
I'm glad you can understand this simple point than Mr. Cloud who doesn't
seem to be able to apply the second law to a non-equilibrium system.
However, you fail to realize the fundamental difference between the
non-equilibrium system in the lifeless physical world and the one in
life. This is a key point in understanding why evolution is wrong. The
one in the lifeless physical world follows the second law. The one in
life moves against the second law. This is why things in the lifeless
physical world will become corrupt over time while life can improve and
advance to become more complicated over time. By understanding the cause
of such non-equilibrium system in life that is intelligence, one can
logically conclude that life has to be God's intelligent design. This is
just simple logic. There is nothing complicated in proving evolution wrong.
How did you conclude that? There is no single explanation how God came
into existence. You simply moved mixing link on another level while
living original question unanswered. God is not the answer. God is
another question.
Intelligence is non-physical. It's one of the evidence of God.
How so?
By being non-physical, it has to be spiritual if it's real. There is no
other alternative. Unless you can deny intelligence as being real, you
have no choice but to admit it's the evidence of the spiritual which
means it's one of the evidence of God.
It is not evidence of God in no way...
Why? I have demonstrated my logic. What's your reason to deny such
simple logic?
Becuase it is wrong. Something may seem logical, but still be untrue.
Except you can't prove it is wrong.
I will try and use small words so you can understand.
No person has to prove you wrong. You ARE wrong until you can prove otherwise.
Since you do not understand what evidence is and do not have the ability to gather any for your fantasy, you will always be wrong until you learn what evidence is. once you do that, you will go away because you will know what an ass you are.
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intelligence is proven to be the determining factor to create the
non-equilibrium system in life, it has indicated the work of God in
creating life.
You haven't answered basic question: How God came into existence?
That is never a question. God exists eternally before the universe came
into existence.
Hm. You can easilly eliminate God and say same for universe and life..
See, there is no need for God...
No. You can only blindly ignore God by ignoring the spiritual evidence
that are essential to life.
There is no such thing as spiritual evidence.
That's just blind denial.
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You are blinded by what you see and can't
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realize that which makes you see.
I fully realize that it is how my eyes have evolved that allows me to see.
Obviously your philosophical understanding is non-existent. You are
incapable to discuss anything philosophically. What would you say if I
change the word "see" with the word "understand" in my above statement?
Can your physical eyes understand anything?
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To Summarise: The arguments for creationism that you've found online
The second law of thermodynamics applies to far from equilibrium
systems (which nobody who knows thermodynamics would claim).
I'm glad you can understand this simple point than Mr. Cloud who doesn't
seem to be able to apply the second law to a non-equilibrium system.
However, you fail to realize the fundamental difference between the
non-equilibrium system in the lifeless physical world and the one in
life. This is a key point in understanding why evolution is wrong. The
one in the lifeless physical world follows the second law. The one in
life moves against the second law. This is why things in the lifeless
physical world will become corrupt over time while life can improve and
advance to become more complicated over time. By understanding the cause
of such non-equilibrium system in life that is intelligence, one can
logically conclude that life has to be God's intelligent design. This is
just simple logic. There is nothing complicated in proving evolution wrong.
How did you conclude that? There is no single explanation how God came
into existence. You simply moved mixing link on another level while
living original question unanswered. God is not the answer. God is
another question.
Intelligence is non-physical. It's one of the evidence of God.
How so?
By being non-physical, it has to be spiritual if it's real. There is no
other alternative. Unless you can deny intelligence as being real, you
have no choice but to admit it's the evidence of the spiritual which
means it's one of the evidence of God.
It is not evidence of God in no way...
Why? I have demonstrated my logic. What's your reason to deny such
simple logic?
Becuase it is wrong. Something may seem logical, but still be untrue.
Except you can't prove it is wrong.
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intelligence is proven to be the determining factor to create the
non-equilibrium system in life, it has indicated the work of God in
creating life.
You haven't answered basic question: How God came into existence?
That is never a question. God exists eternally before the universe came
into existence.
Hm. You can easilly eliminate God and say same for universe and life..
See, there is no need for God...
No. You can only blindly ignore God by ignoring the spiritual evidence
that are essential to life.
There is no such thing as spiritual evidence.
That's just blind denial.
Anybody who disagrees with your unprovable "personal experience" is blind.
Ever consider how far out of the mainstream you are Retardo? Most other people's personal experience is different from yours. Probably because they are neither trolls or suffering brain damage.
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You are blinded by what you see and can't
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realize that which makes you see.
You closely follow the salesman's motto.
If you can not dazzle them with facts, baffle them with bullshit.
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I fully realize that it is how my eyes have evolved that allows me to see.
Obviously your philosophical understanding is non-existent.
Obvious to you? You, who doesn't know the difference between science and philosophy is? You cut me to the quick sir.

You are
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incapable to discuss anything philosophically.
Not at all. You just don't know what philosophy is.
Not surprising since you don't seem to knpow much about reality either.


What would you say if I
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change the word "see" with the word "understand" in my above statement?
Can your physical eyes understand anything?
Of course, that's how I know how full of shit you are and how you don't know what evidence, philosophy, science, reality, and what a trolling little shit you are.

Can you understand that there are only 3 possibilities with you based on the evidence you have presented?

You are a brain damaged idiot, in which case we should have some tiny amount of sympathy for.

You are a troll with way to free time.

You are a brain damaged troll.

The main thing is everybody knows you are full of shit no matter which of the above is true.
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The second law of thermodynamics applies to far from equilibrium
systems (which nobody who knows thermodynamics would claim).
I'm glad you can understand this simple point than Mr. Cloud who doesn't
seem to be able to apply the second law to a non-equilibrium system.
However, you fail to realize the fundamental difference between the
non-equilibrium system in the lifeless physical world and the one in
life. This is a key point in understanding why evolution is wrong. The
one in the lifeless physical world follows the second law. The one in
life moves against the second law. This is why things in the lifeless
physical world will become corrupt over time while life can improve and
advance to become more complicated over time. By understanding the cause
of such non-equilibrium system in life that is intelligence, one can
logically conclude that life has to be God's intelligent design. This is
just simple logic. There is nothing complicated in proving evolution wrong.
How did you conclude that? There is no single explanation how God came
into existence. You simply moved mixing link on another level while
living original question unanswered. God is not the answer. God is
another question.
Intelligence is non-physical. It's one of the evidence of God.
How so?
By being non-physical, it has to be spiritual if it's real. There is no
other alternative. Unless you can deny intelligence as being real, you
have no choice but to admit it's the evidence of the spiritual which
means it's one of the evidence of God.
How so?
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When
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intelligence is proven to be the determining factor to create the
non-equilibrium system in life, it has indicated the work of God in
creating life.
You haven't answered basic question: How God came into existence?
That is never a question. God exists eternally before the universe came
into existence.
So the universe and life could have always existed. No God needed.
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The second law of thermodynamics applies to far from equilibrium
systems (which nobody who knows thermodynamics would claim).
I'm glad you can understand this simple point than Mr. Cloud who doesn't
seem to be able to apply the second law to a non-equilibrium system.
However, you fail to realize the fundamental difference between the
non-equilibrium system in the lifeless physical world and the one in
life. This is a key point in understanding why evolution is wrong. The
one in the lifeless physical world follows the second law. The one in
life moves against the second law. This is why things in the lifeless
physical world will become corrupt over time while life can improve and
advance to become more complicated over time. By understanding the cause
of such non-equilibrium system in life that is intelligence, one can
logically conclude that life has to be God's intelligent design. This is
just simple logic. There is nothing complicated in proving evolution wrong.
How did you conclude that? There is no single explanation how God came
into existence. You simply moved mixing link on another level while
living original question unanswered. God is not the answer. God is
another question.
Intelligence is non-physical. It's one of the evidence of God.
How so?
By being non-physical, it has to be spiritual if it's real. There is no
other alternative. Unless you can deny intelligence as being real, you
have no choice but to admit it's the evidence of the spiritual which
means it's one of the evidence of God.
How so?
By logic.
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intelligence is proven to be the determining factor to create the
non-equilibrium system in life, it has indicated the work of God in
creating life.
You haven't answered basic question: How God came into existence?
That is never a question. God exists eternally before the universe came
into existence.
So the universe and life could have always existed. No God needed.
Life has always existed because life is a manifestation of God that does
not rely on the physical appearance. The universe, being a mere
perception or projection of the intelligence coming from God, does have
a beginning and ending. So, both life and the universe rely on God.
--
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Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, peace, freedom, and life itself.
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How so?
By being non-physical, it has to be spiritual if it's real. There is no
other alternative. Unless you can deny intelligence as being real, you
have no choice but to admit it's the evidence of the spiritual which
means it's one of the evidence of God.
How so?
By logic.
I need more information.
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intelligence is proven to be the determining factor to create the
non-equilibrium system in life, it has indicated the work of God in
creating life.
You haven't answered basic question: How God came into existence?
That is never a question. God exists eternally before the universe came
into existence.
So the universe and life could have always existed. No God needed.
Life has always existed because life is a manifestation of God that does
not rely on the physical appearance. The universe, being a mere
perception or projection of the intelligence coming from God, does have
a beginning and ending. So, both life and the universe rely on God.
That could explain why there is so much stupidity in life.

If life has always existed why did it suddenly start to evolve
millions of years ago?
At what point in our evolutionary history did we become human?
We evolved from apes so there was a point in time when we
became humans.
Estimates range from 400,000 to 200,000 years ago.
Aborigines have been in Australia for around 50,000 years.
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Intelligence is non-physical. It's one of the evidence of God.
How so?
By being non-physical, it has to be spiritual if it's real. There is no
other alternative. Unless you can deny intelligence as being real, you
have no choice but to admit it's the evidence of the spiritual which
means it's one of the evidence of God.
How so?
By logic.
I need more information.
Why? can't you understand logic?
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intelligence is proven to be the determining factor to create the
non-equilibrium system in life, it has indicated the work of God in
creating life.
You haven't answered basic question: How God came into existence?
That is never a question. God exists eternally before the universe came
into existence.
So the universe and life could have always existed. No God needed.
Life has always existed because life is a manifestation of God that does
not rely on the physical appearance. The universe, being a mere
perception or projection of the intelligence coming from God, does have
a beginning and ending. So, both life and the universe rely on God.
That could explain why there is so much stupidity in life.
If life has always existed why did it suddenly start to evolve
millions of years ago?
There was no such thing.
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At what point in our evolutionary history did we become human?
We evolved from apes so there was a point in time when we
became humans.
Estimates range from 400,000 to 200,000 years ago.
Aborigines have been in Australia for around 50,000 years.
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Intelligence is non-physical. It's one of the evidence of God.
How so?
By being non-physical, it has to be spiritual if it's real. There is no
other alternative. Unless you can deny intelligence as being real, you
have no choice but to admit it's the evidence of the spiritual which
means it's one of the evidence of God.
How so?
By logic.
I need more information.
Why? can't you understand logic?
You are making assertions without any reason. I need your reasoning.*
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intelligence is proven to be the determining factor to create the
non-equilibrium system in life, it has indicated the work of God in
creating life.
You haven't answered basic question: How God came into existence?
That is never a question. God exists eternally before the universe came
into existence.
So the universe and life could have always existed. No God needed.
Life has always existed because life is a manifestation of God that does
not rely on the physical appearance. The universe, being a mere
perception or projection of the intelligence coming from God, does have
a beginning and ending. So, both life and the universe rely on God.
That could explain why there is so much stupidity in life.
If life has always existed why did it suddenly start to evolve
millions of years ago?
There was no such thing.
That doesn't answer my question.
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At what point in our evolutionary history did we become human?
What do your cult leaders say?
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We evolved from apes so there was a point in time when we
became humans.
Estimates range from 400,000 to 200,000 years ago.
Aborigines have been in Australia for around 50,000 years.
*I know aaa does not reason.
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How so?
By being non-physical, it has to be spiritual if it's real. There is no
other alternative. Unless you can deny intelligence as being real, you
have no choice but to admit it's the evidence of the spiritual which
means it's one of the evidence of God.
How so?
By logic.
I need more information.
Why? can't you understand logic?
Better than you.
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intelligence is proven to be the determining factor to create the
non-equilibrium system in life, it has indicated the work of God in
creating life.
You haven't answered basic question: How God came into existence?
That is never a question. God exists eternally before the universe came
into existence.
So the universe and life could have always existed. No God needed.
Life has always existed because life is a manifestation of God that does
not rely on the physical appearance.
This is not something anybody could know. There is no evidence of any other life existing (until recently on Mars) anywhere else. While it possible and indeed probable to most scientists that lifeforms similar to ourselves exist elsewhere in the universe, there is no evidence of it so far.

The universe, being a mere
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Nonsense trying to pass itself off as pseudo-science.

does have
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a beginning and ending.
Maybe, maybe not. There is some evidence that the universe has always existed, which has been my position for decades. The problem with Einstein's relativity is that we can't know anything before the big bang, (which also might not have happened)and that it still doesn't explain where the matter that got squished into a singularity came from.

It is, in fact, impossible for nothing to be the cause of something. That means that matter had to already exist and it had to do so in so9me place, the universe.

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Big Bang, Deflated? Universe May Have Had No Beginning
This graphic shows a timeline of the universe based on the Big Bang theory and inflation models.
Credit: NASA/WMAP

If a new theory turns out to be true, the universe may not have started with a bang.

In the new formulation, the universe was never a singularity, or an infinitely small and infinitely dense point of matter. In fact, the universe may have no beginning at all.

"Our theory suggests that the age of the universe could be infinite," said study co-author Saurya Das, a theoretical physicist at the University of Lethbridge in Alberta, Canada.

The new concept could also explain what dark matter — the mysterious, invisible substance that makes up most of the matter in the universe — is actually made of, Das added. [The Big Bang to Civilization: 10 Amazing Origin Events]

Big Bang under fire

According to the Big Bang theory, the universe was born about 13.8 billion years ago. All the matter that exists today was once squished into an infinitely dense, infinitely tiny, ultra-hot point called a singularity. This tiny fireball then exploded and gave rise to the early universe.

The singularity comes out of the math of Einstein's theory of general relativity, which describes how mass warps space-time, and another equation (called Raychaudhuri's equation) that predicts whether the trajectory of something will converge or diverge over time. Going backward in time, according to these equations, all matter in the universe was once in a single point — the Big Bang singularity.

But that's not quite true. In Einstein's formulation, the laws of physics actually break before the singularity is reached. But scientists extrapolate backward as if the physics equations still hold, said Robert Brandenberger, a theoretical cosmologist at McGill University in Montreal, who was not involved in the study.

"So when we say that the universe begins with a big bang, we really have no right to say that," Brandenberger told Live Science.

There are other problems brewing in physics — namely, that the two most dominant theories, quantum mechanics and general relativity, can't be reconciled.

Quantum mechanics says that the behavior of tiny subatomic particles is fundamentally uncertain. This is at odds with Einstein's general relativity, which is deterministic, meaning that once all the natural laws are known, the future is completely predetermined by the past, Das said.

And neither theory explains what dark matter, an invisible form of matter that exerts a gravitational pull on ordinary matter but cannot be detected by most telescopes, is made of.

Quantum correction

Das and his colleagues wanted a way to resolve at least some of these problems. To do so, they looked at an older way of visualizing quantum mechanics, called Bohmian mechanics. In it, a hidden variable governs the bizarre behavior of subatomic particles. Unlike other formulations of quantum mechanics, it provides a way to calculate the trajectory of a particle.

Using this old-fashioned form of quantum theory, the researchers calculated a small correction term that could be included in Einstein's theory of general relativity. Then, they figured out what would happen in deep time. [8 Ways You Can See Einstein's Theory of Relativity in Real Life]

The upshot? In the new formulation, there is no singularity, and the universe is infinitely old.

A way to test the theory

One way of interpreting the quantum correction term in their equation is that it is related to the density of dark matter, Das said.

If so, the universe could be filled with a superfluid made of hypothetical particles, such as the gravity-carrying particles known as gravitons, or ultra-cold, ghostlike particles known as axions, Das said.

One way to test the theory is to look at how dark matter is distributed in the universe and see if it matches the properties of the proposed superfluid, Das said.

"If our results match with those, even approximately, that's great," Das told Live Science.

However, the new equations are just one way to reconcile quantum mechanics and general relativity. For instance, a part of string theory known as string gas cosmology predicts that the universe once had a long-lasting static phase, while other theories predict there was once a cosmic "bounce," where the universe first contracted until it reached a very small size, then began expanding, Brandenberg said.

Either way, the universe was once very, very small and hot.

"The fact that there's a hot fireball at very early times: that is confirmed," Brandenberg told Live Science. "When you try to go back all the way to the singularity, that's when the problems arise."

The new theory was explained in a paper published Feb. 4 in the journal Physical Letters B, and another paper that is currently under peer review, which was published in the preprint journal arXiv.

So, both life and the universe rely on God.
Nothing is the only thing that relies on something that is not there.
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That could explain why there is so much stupidity in life.
If life has always existed why did it suddenly start to evolve
millions of years ago?
There was no such thing.
Wrong again Retardo.
Or did you mean your imaginary god?
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At what point in our evolutionary history did we become human?
Tripp still hasn't, or perhaps he is some new species, homostupidus, doomed to extinction I believe.
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We evolved from apes so there was a point in time when we
became humans.
We evolved from the same ancestor as apes is my understanding.
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Estimates range from 400,000 to 200,000 years ago.
Aborigines have been in Australia for around 50,000 years.
And tripp has been here for what seems like eternity.
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The second law of thermodynamics applies to far from equilibrium
systems (which nobody who knows thermodynamics would claim).
I'm glad you can understand this simple point than Mr. Cloud who doesn't
seem to be able to apply the second law to a non-equilibrium system.
However, you fail to realize the fundamental difference between the
non-equilibrium system in the lifeless physical world and the one in
life. This is a key point in understanding why evolution is wrong. The
one in the lifeless physical world follows the second law. The one in
life moves against the second law. This is why things in the lifeless
physical world will become corrupt over time while life can improve and
advance to become more complicated over time. By understanding the cause
of such non-equilibrium system in life that is intelligence, one can
logically conclude that life has to be God's intelligent design. This is
just simple logic. There is nothing complicated in proving evolution wrong.
How did you conclude that? There is no single explanation how God came
into existence. You simply moved mixing link on another level while
living original question unanswered. God is not the answer. God is
another question.
Intelligence is non-physical. It's one of the evidence of God.
How so?
By being non-physical, it has to be spiritual if it's real. There is no
other alternative. Unless you can deny intelligence as being real, you
have no choice but to admit it's the evidence of the spiritual which
means it's one of the evidence of God.
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When
Post by aaa
intelligence is proven to be the determining factor to create the
non-equilibrium system in life, it has indicated the work of God in
creating life.
You haven't answered basic question: How God came into existence?
That is never a question. God exists eternally before the universe came
into existence.
What if the universe itself is eternal?
Makes a lot more sense than your non-physical imaginary deity.
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The second law of thermodynamics applies to far from equilibrium
systems (which nobody who knows thermodynamics would claim).
I'm glad you can understand this simple point than Mr. Cloud who doesn't
seem to be able to apply the second law to a non-equilibrium system.
However, you fail to realize the fundamental difference between the
non-equilibrium system in the lifeless physical world and the one in
life. This is a key point in understanding why evolution is wrong. The
one in the lifeless physical world follows the second law. The one in
life moves against the second law. This is why things in the lifeless
physical world will become corrupt over time while life can improve and
advance to become more complicated over time. By understanding the cause
of such non-equilibrium system in life that is intelligence, one can
logically conclude that life has to be God's intelligent design. This is
just simple logic. There is nothing complicated in proving evolution wrong.
How did you conclude that? There is no single explanation how God came
into existence. You simply moved mixing link on another level while
living original question unanswered. God is not the answer. God is
another question.
Intelligence is non-physical. It's one of the evidence of God.
How so?
By being non-physical, it has to be spiritual if it's real. There is no
other alternative. Unless you can deny intelligence as being real, you
have no choice but to admit it's the evidence of the spiritual which
means it's one of the evidence of God.
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When
Post by aaa
intelligence is proven to be the determining factor to create the
non-equilibrium system in life, it has indicated the work of God in
creating life.
You haven't answered basic question: How God came into existence?
That is never a question. God exists eternally before the universe came
into existence.
What if the universe itself is eternal?
Makes a lot more sense than your non-physical imaginary deity.
The universe can't be eternal. According to the second law, the usable
energy in the universe is finite. It will be burned out ultimately.
There is no way for the universe to renew its energy. The universe will
eventually turn cold to become dead. That's the end of the universe.
--
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Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, peace, freedom, and life itself.
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To Summarise: The arguments for creationism that you've found online
The second law of thermodynamics applies to far from equilibrium
systems (which nobody who knows thermodynamics would claim).
I'm glad you can understand this simple point than Mr. Cloud who doesn't
seem to be able to apply the second law to a non-equilibrium system.
However, you fail to realize the fundamental difference between the
non-equilibrium system in the lifeless physical world and the one in
life. This is a key point in understanding why evolution is wrong. The
one in the lifeless physical world follows the second law. The one in
life moves against the second law. This is why things in the lifeless
physical world will become corrupt over time while life can improve and
advance to become more complicated over time. By understanding the cause
of such non-equilibrium system in life that is intelligence, one can
logically conclude that life has to be God's intelligent design. This is
just simple logic. There is nothing complicated in proving evolution wrong.
How did you conclude that? There is no single explanation how God came
into existence. You simply moved mixing link on another level while
living original question unanswered. God is not the answer. God is
another question.
Intelligence is non-physical. It's one of the evidence of God.
How so?
By being non-physical, it has to be spiritual if it's real. There is no
other alternative. Unless you can deny intelligence as being real, you
have no choice but to admit it's the evidence of the spiritual which
means it's one of the evidence of God.
Post by Melzzzzz
When
Post by aaa
intelligence is proven to be the determining factor to create the
non-equilibrium system in life, it has indicated the work of God in
creating life.
You haven't answered basic question: How God came into existence?
That is never a question. God exists eternally before the universe came
into existence.
What if the universe itself is eternal?
Makes a lot more sense than your non-physical imaginary deity.
The universe can't be eternal. According to the second law, the usable
energy in the universe is finite. It will be burned out ultimately.
There is no way for the universe to renew its energy. The universe will
eventually turn cold to become dead. That's the end of the universe.
Until now the dominant scientific view is that, somewhere around 13 billion years ago, there was a single point which exploded (AKA, the “Big Bang”). This explosive moment marked the beginning of the universe– everything that exists was born from a single point they call the “singularity.”

However, some scientists are now saying not so fast. The original theory of the Big Bang is based on Einstein’s theory of general relativity, but as scientists recently applied some quantum corrections to the model, they walked away with a new theory: the universe has existed forever. A big explosion occurred at some point, yes– but not one that essentially arose out of nothingness, or marked an actual beginning.

Instead, all that exists has always existed, according to the new theory.

This new model is being advanced by Ahmed Farag Ali at Benha University and Saurya Das at the University of Lethbridge, and has interesting implications.

For Christians, the idea that the universe may have always existed alongside God invites us to embrace a slightly different narrative than the narrative where God created everything “out of nothing.” In this new narrative (which isn’t new at all, actually), we’re invited to embrace a story where God isn’t so much a creator of something out of nothing, but a God who tames the chaos of the universe to give order, purpose, and to create beauty.

It’s creating– but a different kind of creating.

Thus, when we read the Genesis poem and see the spirit of God “hovering above the waters” we see a God exploring this eternally existing universe, and seeking ways to tame, create, and spring forth new life.

Certainly, the idea that the universe is eternal with no beginning and no end is just in the scientific hypothesis stage. If it were to become widely accepted however, I don’t think it would be earth shattering for many– but it would be to Young Earth Creationists, such as friends like Ken Ham at Answers in Genesis.

For those of us who grew up in Young Earth Creationism (show of hands?), we know that the name is entirely mislabeled. It’s not just “young earth” we were taught to believe in, but young universe. Everything that exists, from the known to the unknown, is just 7,000-10,000 years old. All beliefs, whether scientific or otherwise, are first filtered through this original assumption. Thus, a young universe is the very foundation that holds the entire worldview together.

Very few worldviews are a house of cards where if one falls, they all fall– but Young Earth Creationism actually is a house of cards (season 4 comes out today, BTW). Those who hold this view are often open about this fact (claiming that for them, if the earth is older than 7-10,000 years, the entire Bible is worthless), which is why they will go to any length to defend it.

This theory of an eternal universe, more than any other scientific idea in history, is the most threatening to that belief system.

Whereas before the discussion was debating a universe that’s a few thousand vs. a few billion years old (you say tomato, I say tomaaato), this one is a game changer– because you can’t get further apart than young universe vs. eternally existing universe.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/formerlyfundie/science-the-universe-has-always-existed-really-bad-news-for-young-earth-creationism/
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Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/-DiE4iLr8xs
To Summarise: The arguments for creationism that
The second law of thermodynamics applies to far
from equilibrium systems (which nobody who knows
thermodynamics would claim).
I'm glad you can understand this simple point than Mr.
Cloud who doesn't seem to be able to apply the second
law to a non-equilibrium system. However, you fail to
realize the fundamental difference between the
non-equilibrium system in the lifeless physical world
and the one in life. This is a key point in
understanding why evolution is wrong. The one in the
lifeless physical world follows the second law. The one
in life moves against the second law. This is why
things in the lifeless physical world will become
corrupt over time while life can improve and advance to
become more complicated over time. By understanding the
cause of such non-equilibrium system in life that is
intelligence, one can logically conclude that life has
to be God's intelligent design. This is just simple
logic. There is nothing complicated in proving
evolution wrong.
How did you conclude that? There is no single explanation
how God came into existence. You simply moved mixing link
on another level while living original question
unanswered. God is not the answer. God is another
question.
Intelligence is non-physical. It's one of the evidence of
God.
How so?
By being non-physical, it has to be spiritual if it's real.
There is no other alternative. Unless you can deny intelligence
as being real, you have no choice but to admit it's the
evidence of the spiritual which means it's one of the evidence
of God.
Post by Melzzzzz
When
Post by aaa
intelligence is proven to be the determining factor to
create the non-equilibrium system in life, it has indicated
the work of God in creating life.
You haven't answered basic question: How God came into
existence?
That is never a question. God exists eternally before the
universe came into existence.
What if the universe itself is eternal? Makes a lot more sense
than your non-physical imaginary deity.
The universe can't be eternal. According to the second law, the
usable energy in the universe is finite. It will be burned out
ultimately. There is no way for the universe to renew its energy.
The universe will eventually turn cold to become dead. That's the
end of the universe.
Until now the dominant scientific view is that, somewhere around 13
billion years ago, there was a single point which exploded (AKA, the
“Big Bang”). This explosive moment marked the beginning of the
universe– everything that exists was born from a single point they
call the “singularity.”
However, some scientists are now saying not so fast. The original
theory of the Big Bang is based on Einstein’s theory of general
relativity, but as scientists recently applied some quantum
corrections to the model, they walked away with a new theory: the
universe has existed forever. A big explosion occurred at some point,
yes– but not one that essentially arose out of nothingness, or marked
an actual beginning.
Instead, all that exists has always existed, according to the new theory.
This new model is being advanced by Ahmed Farag Ali at Benha
University and Saurya Das at the University of Lethbridge, and has
interesting implications.
For Christians, the idea that the universe may have always existed
alongside God invites us to embrace a slightly different narrative
than the narrative where God created everything “out of nothing.” In
this new narrative (which isn’t new at all, actually), we’re invited
to embrace a story where God isn’t so much a creator of something out
of nothing, but a God who tames the chaos of the universe to give
order, purpose, and to create beauty.
It’s creating– but a different kind of creating.
Thus, when we read the Genesis poem and see the spirit of God
“hovering above the waters” we see a God exploring this eternally
existing universe, and seeking ways to tame, create, and spring
forth new life.
Certainly, the idea that the universe is eternal with no beginning
and no end is just in the scientific hypothesis stage. If it were to
become widely accepted however, I don’t think it would be earth
shattering for many– but it would be to Young Earth Creationists,
such as friends like Ken Ham at Answers in Genesis.
For those of us who grew up in Young Earth Creationism (show of
hands?), we know that the name is entirely mislabeled. It’s not just
“young earth” we were taught to believe in, but young universe.
Everything that exists, from the known to the unknown, is just
7,000-10,000 years old. All beliefs, whether scientific or otherwise,
are first filtered through this original assumption. Thus, a young
universe is the very foundation that holds the entire worldview
together.
Very few worldviews are a house of cards where if one falls, they all
fall– but Young Earth Creationism actually is a house of cards
(season 4 comes out today, BTW). Those who hold this view are often
open about this fact (claiming that for them, if the earth is older
than 7-10,000 years, the entire Bible is worthless), which is why
they will go to any length to defend it.
This theory of an eternal universe, more than any other scientific
idea in history, is the most threatening to that belief system.
Whereas before the discussion was debating a universe that’s a few
thousand vs. a few billion years old (you say tomato, I say
tomaaato), this one is a game changer– because you can’t get further
apart than young universe vs. eternally existing universe.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/formerlyfundie/science-the-universe-has-always-existed-really-bad-news-for-young-earth-creationism/
The problem of that article is that it does not explain the second law
of thermodynamics. The second law says that energy is always degrading
to become wasted energy. Without the Big Bang, there is no source for
the original usable energy of the universe. The universe does not have
the ability to turn the wasted energy into usable energy again. So, an
eternal universe should have been a cold universe that has long reached
equilibrium to become freezing dead without light or stars.
--
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Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, peace, freedom, and life itself.
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Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/-DiE4iLr8xs
To Summarise: The arguments for creationism that
The second law of thermodynamics applies to far
from equilibrium systems (which nobody who knows
thermodynamics would claim).
I'm glad you can understand this simple point than Mr.
Cloud who doesn't seem to be able to apply the second
law to a non-equilibrium system. However, you fail to
realize the fundamental difference between the
non-equilibrium system in the lifeless physical world
and the one in life. This is a key point in
understanding why evolution is wrong. The one in the
lifeless physical world follows the second law. The one
in life moves against the second law. This is why
things in the lifeless physical world will become
corrupt over time while life can improve and advance to
become more complicated over time. By understanding the
cause of such non-equilibrium system in life that is
intelligence, one can logically conclude that life has
to be God's intelligent design. This is just simple
logic. There is nothing complicated in proving
evolution wrong.
How did you conclude that? There is no single explanation
how God came into existence. You simply moved mixing link
on another level while living original question
unanswered. God is not the answer. God is another
question.
Intelligence is non-physical. It's one of the evidence of God.
How so?
By being non-physical, it has to be spiritual if it's real.
There is no other alternative. Unless you can deny intelligence
as being real, you have no choice but to admit it's the
evidence of the spiritual which means it's one of the evidence
of God.
Post by Melzzzzz
When
Post by aaa
intelligence is proven to be the determining factor to
create the non-equilibrium system in life, it has indicated
the work of God in creating life.
You haven't answered basic question: How God came into
existence?
That is never a question. God exists eternally before the
universe came into existence.
What if the universe itself is eternal? Makes a lot more sense
than your non-physical imaginary deity.
The universe can't be eternal. According to the second law, the
usable energy in the universe is finite. It will be burned out
ultimately. There is no way for the universe to renew its energy.
The universe will eventually turn cold to become dead. That's the
end of the universe.
Until now the dominant scientific view is that, somewhere around 13
billion years ago, there was a single point which exploded (AKA, the
“Big Bang”). This explosive moment marked the beginning of the
universe– everything that exists was born from a single point they
call the “singularity.”
However, some scientists are now saying not so fast. The original
theory of the Big Bang is based on Einstein’s theory of general
relativity, but as scientists recently applied some quantum
corrections to the model, they walked away with a new theory: the
universe has existed forever. A big explosion occurred at some point,
yes– but not one that essentially arose out of nothingness, or marked
an actual beginning.
Instead, all that exists has always existed, according to the new theory.
This new model is being advanced by Ahmed Farag Ali at Benha
University and Saurya Das at the University of Lethbridge, and has
interesting implications.
For Christians, the idea that the universe may have always existed
alongside God invites us to embrace a slightly different narrative
than the narrative where God created everything “out of nothing.” In
this new narrative (which isn’t new at all, actually), we’re invited
to embrace a story where God isn’t so much a creator of something out
of nothing, but a God who tames the chaos of the universe to give
order, purpose, and to create beauty.
It’s creating– but a different kind of creating.
Thus, when we read the Genesis poem and see the spirit of God
“hovering above the waters” we see a God exploring this eternally
existing universe, and seeking ways to tame, create, and spring
forth new life.
Certainly, the idea that the universe is eternal with no beginning
and no end is just in the scientific hypothesis stage. If it were to
become widely accepted however, I don’t think it would be earth
shattering for many– but it would be to Young Earth Creationists,
such as friends like Ken Ham at Answers in Genesis.
For those of us who grew up in Young Earth Creationism (show of
hands?), we know that the name is entirely mislabeled. It’s not just
“young earth” we were taught to believe in, but young universe.
Everything that exists, from the known to the unknown, is just
7,000-10,000 years old. All beliefs, whether scientific or otherwise,
are first filtered through this original assumption. Thus, a young
universe is the very foundation that holds the entire worldview
together.
Very few worldviews are a house of cards where if one falls, they all
fall– but Young Earth Creationism actually is a house of cards
(season 4 comes out today, BTW). Those who hold this view are often
open about this fact (claiming that for them, if the earth is older
than 7-10,000 years, the entire Bible is worthless), which is why
they will go to any length to defend it.
This theory of an eternal universe, more than any other scientific
idea in history, is the most threatening to that belief system.
Whereas before the discussion was debating a universe that’s a few
thousand vs. a few billion years old (you say tomato, I say
tomaaato), this one is a game changer– because you can’t get further
apart than young universe vs. eternally existing universe.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/formerlyfundie/science-the-universe-has-always-existed-really-bad-news-for-young-earth-creationism/
The problem of that article is that it does not explain the second law
of thermodynamics. The second law says that energy is always degrading
to become wasted energy. Without the Big Bang, there is no source for
the original usable energy of the universe. The universe does not have
the ability to turn the wasted energy into usable energy again. So, an
eternal universe should have been a cold universe that has long reached
equilibrium to become freezing dead without light or stars.
That's not a problem. The light of the stars is powered
by sugar, remember? Sugar comes from photosynthesis.
Photosynthesis comes from starlight. So the stars can
keep shining forever. Sugar makes the universe eternal.

You're a brilliant troll, but sometimes you forget the
brilliantly stupid things you said before.

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The second law of thermodynamics applies to far from equilibrium
systems (which nobody who knows thermodynamics would claim).
I'm glad you can understand this simple point than Mr. Cloud who doesn't
seem to be able to apply the second law to a non-equilibrium system.
However, you fail to realize the fundamental difference between the
non-equilibrium system in the lifeless physical world and the one in
life. This is a key point in understanding why evolution is wrong. The
one in the lifeless physical world follows the second law. The one in
life moves against the second law. This is why things in the lifeless
physical world will become corrupt over time while life can improve and
advance to become more complicated over time. By understanding the cause
of such non-equilibrium system in life that is intelligence, one can
logically conclude that life has to be God's intelligent design. This is
just simple logic. There is nothing complicated in proving evolution wrong.
How did you conclude that? There is no single explanation how God came
into existence. You simply moved mixing link on another level while
living original question unanswered. God is not the answer. God is
another question.
Intelligence is non-physical.
Of course it is physical. Simple, natural or man-made molecules can
destroy the brain, "intelligence" and the personality of anyone.
Post by aaa
It's one of the evidence of God. When
intelligence is proven to be the determining factor to create the
non-equilibrium system in life,
That makes no sense, even for a mentally-challenged creep like you.
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it has indicated the work of God in
creating life.
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To Summarise: The arguments for creationism that you've
The second law of thermodynamics applies to far from
equilibrium systems (which nobody who knows
thermodynamics would claim).
I'm glad you can understand this simple point than Mr. Cloud
who doesn't seem to be able to apply the second law to a
non-equilibrium system. However, you fail to realize the
fundamental difference between the non-equilibrium system in
the lifeless physical world and the one in life. This is a key
point in understanding why evolution is wrong. The one in the
lifeless physical world follows the second law. The one in life
moves against the second law. This is why things in the
lifeless physical world will become corrupt over time while
life can improve and advance to become more complicated over
time. By understanding the cause of such non-equilibrium system
in life that is intelligence, one can logically conclude that
life has to be God's intelligent design. This is just simple
logic. There is nothing complicated in proving evolution
wrong.
How did you conclude that? There is no single explanation how God
came into existence. You simply moved mixing link on another
level while living original question unanswered. God is not the
answer. God is another question.
Intelligence is non-physical.
Of course it is physical. Simple, natural or man-made molecules can
destroy the brain, "intelligence" and the personality of anyone.
No. It only destroys the brain function to disable the ability of
intelligence to interact with the physical world. Intelligence is a
non-physical ability that is not just a mere physical function. It is an
ability to control the physical function to act intelligently.
Post by Olrik
Post by aaa
It's one of the evidence of God. When intelligence is proven to be
the determining factor to create the non-equilibrium system in
life,
That makes no sense, even for a mentally-challenged creep like you.
It makes no sense because you have no idea what I'm talking about. You
never paid attention to the fundamental difference between the
non-equilibrium system in life and the non-equilibrium system in nature.
Post by Olrik
Post by aaa
it has indicated the work of God in creating life.
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Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
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To Summarise: The arguments for creationism that you've
The second law of thermodynamics applies to far from
equilibrium systems (which nobody who knows
thermodynamics would claim).
I'm glad you can understand this simple point than Mr. Cloud
who doesn't seem to be able to apply the second law to a
non-equilibrium system. However, you fail to realize the
fundamental difference between the non-equilibrium system in
the lifeless physical world and the one in life. This is a key
point in understanding why evolution is wrong. The one in the
lifeless physical world follows the second law. The one in life
moves against the second law. This is why things in the
lifeless physical world will become corrupt over time while
life can improve and advance to become more complicated over
time. By understanding the cause of such non-equilibrium system
in life that is intelligence, one can logically conclude that
life has to be God's intelligent design. This is just simple
logic. There is nothing complicated in proving evolution
wrong.
How did you conclude that? There is no single explanation how God
came into existence. You simply moved mixing link on another
level while living original question unanswered. God is not the
answer. God is another question.
Intelligence is non-physical.
Of course it is physical. Simple, natural or man-made molecules can
destroy the brain, "intelligence" and the personality of anyone.
No. It only destroys the brain function to disable the ability of
intelligence to interact with the physical world. Intelligence is a
non-physical ability that is not just a mere physical function. It is an
ability to control the physical function to act intelligently.
In the case of aaa intelligence does not exist.
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It's one of the evidence of God. When intelligence is proven to be
the determining factor to create the non-equilibrium system in
life,
That makes no sense, even for a mentally-challenged creep like you.
It makes no sense because you have no idea what I'm talking about.
Keep 'em coming!
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You never paid attention to the fundamental difference between the
non-equilibrium system in life and the non-equilibrium system in nature.
An update for your random phrase generator is available.
Install it now? y/n
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2017-06-20 03:40:48 UTC
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To Summarise: The arguments for creationism that you've
The second law of thermodynamics applies to far from
equilibrium systems (which nobody who knows
thermodynamics would claim).
I'm glad you can understand this simple point than Mr. Cloud
who doesn't seem to be able to apply the second law to a
non-equilibrium system. However, you fail to realize the
fundamental difference between the non-equilibrium system in
the lifeless physical world and the one in life. This is a key
point in understanding why evolution is wrong. The one in the
lifeless physical world follows the second law. The one in life
moves against the second law. This is why things in the
lifeless physical world will become corrupt over time while
life can improve and advance to become more complicated over
time. By understanding the cause of such non-equilibrium system
in life that is intelligence, one can logically conclude that
life has to be God's intelligent design. This is just simple
logic. There is nothing complicated in proving evolution
wrong.
How did you conclude that? There is no single explanation how God
came into existence. You simply moved mixing link on another
level while living original question unanswered. God is not the
answer. God is another question.
Intelligence is non-physical.
Of course it is physical. Simple, natural or man-made molecules can
destroy the brain, "intelligence" and the personality of anyone.
No. It only destroys the brain function to disable the ability of
intelligence to interact with the physical world. Intelligence is a
non-physical ability that is not just a mere physical function.
Yes, it is. It cannot be otherwise.

And you can mangle the English language as much as you want, and you can
misunderstand or ignore science, reality and knowledge to your heart's
content, it won't change the fact that everything is physical.
Post by aaa
It is an ability to control the physical function to act intelligently.
That doesn't make any sense, like pretty much *everything* you write.

Just be happy until you die.
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Post by aaa
It's one of the evidence of God. When intelligence is proven to be
the determining factor to create the non-equilibrium system in
life,
That makes no sense, even for a mentally-challenged creep like you.
It makes no sense because you have no idea what I'm talking about.
Because you make no sense. You just type words without understanding them.
Post by aaa
You never paid attention to the fundamental difference between the
non-equilibrium system in life and the non-equilibrium system in nature.
THAT'S MEANINGLESS!

(Sorry for the all-caps...)
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To Summarise: The arguments for creationism that
The second law of thermodynamics applies to far from
equilibrium systems (which nobody who knows
thermodynamics would claim).
I'm glad you can understand this simple point than Mr.
Cloud who doesn't seem to be able to apply the second law
to a non-equilibrium system. However, you fail to realize
the fundamental difference between the non-equilibrium
system in the lifeless physical world and the one in life.
This is a key point in understanding why evolution is
wrong. The one in the lifeless physical world follows the
second law. The one in life moves against the second law.
This is why things in the lifeless physical world will
become corrupt over time while life can improve and advance
to become more complicated over time. By understanding the
cause of such non-equilibrium system in life that is
intelligence, one can logically conclude that life has to
be God's intelligent design. This is just simple logic.
There is nothing complicated in proving evolution wrong.
How did you conclude that? There is no single explanation how
God came into existence. You simply moved mixing link on
another level while living original question unanswered. God
is not the answer. God is another question.
Intelligence is non-physical.
Of course it is physical. Simple, natural or man-made molecules
can destroy the brain, "intelligence" and the personality of
anyone.
No. It only destroys the brain function to disable the ability of
intelligence to interact with the physical world. Intelligence is a
non-physical ability that is not just a mere physical function.
Yes, it is. It cannot be otherwise.
That's just your belief. You have no real evidence to prove it.
Intelligence is not a physical function of the brain. It's what the
brain relies on in order to function. Intelligence operates the brain.
The brain does not operate intelligence.
Post by Olrik
And you can mangle the English language as much as you want, and you
can misunderstand or ignore science, reality and knowledge to your
heart's content, it won't change the fact that everything is
physical.
Post by aaa
It is an ability to control the physical function to act
intelligently.
That doesn't make any sense, like pretty much *everything* you
write.
Just be happy until you die.
That would be you because you don't even bother to understand what I said.
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Post by aaa
It's one of the evidence of God. When intelligence is proven to
be the determining factor to create the non-equilibrium system
in life,
That makes no sense, even for a mentally-challenged creep like you.
It makes no sense because you have no idea what I'm talking about.
Because you make no sense. You just type words without understanding them.
Except you are the one who is clueless.
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Post by aaa
You never paid attention to the fundamental difference between the
non-equilibrium system in life and the non-equilibrium system in nature.
THAT'S MEANINGLESS!
(Sorry for the all-caps...)
You only emphasize your cluelessness with caps.
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Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, peace, freedom, and life itself.
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That's just your belief. You have no real evidence to prove it.
Intelligence is not a physical function of the brain. It's what the
brain relies on in order to function. Intelligence operates the brain.
The brain does not operate intelligence.
That's just your belief. You have no real evidence to
prove it.
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2017-06-23 01:35:34 UTC
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That's just your belief. You have no real evidence to prove it.
Intelligence is not a physical function of the brain. It's what the
brain relies on in order to function. Intelligence operates the brain.
The brain does not operate intelligence.
That's just your belief. You have no real evidence to
prove it.
I do. When you can understand intelligence philosophically, you will
understand what I said. There is no belief involved. It's just the way
it is.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, peace, freedom, and life itself.
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2017-06-23 11:13:55 UTC
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That's just your belief. You have no real evidence to prove it.
Intelligence is not a physical function of the brain. It's what the
brain relies on in order to function. Intelligence operates the brain.
The brain does not operate intelligence.
Everything that makes "you" exists in the physical organ we call
the brain. Brain damage, chemical imbalance, and aging may
change "you" completely.

What we call the mind is a function of the physical brain.

You may have been sane before you got brain damage.
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Post by aaa
That's just your belief. You have no real evidence to
prove it.
I do. When you can understand intelligence philosophically, you will
understand what I said. There is no belief involved. It's just the way
it is.
I am impressed by the way you hold back your damning evidence
to avoid destroying atheism and evolution.
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2017-06-23 14:26:33 UTC
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That's just your belief. You have no real evidence to prove it.
Intelligence is not a physical function of the brain. It's what the
brain relies on in order to function. Intelligence operates the brain.
The brain does not operate intelligence.
Everything that makes "you" exists in the physical organ we call
the brain. Brain damage, chemical imbalance, and aging may
change "you" completely.
You're nuts. The brain is only a 64K computer. Your soul is what makes you.

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That's just your belief. You have no real evidence to prove it.
Intelligence is not a physical function of the brain. It's what the
brain relies on in order to function. Intelligence operates the brain.
The brain does not operate intelligence.
Everything that makes "you" exists in the physical organ we call
the brain. Brain damage, chemical imbalance, and aging may
change "you" completely.
You're nuts. The brain is only a 64K computer. Your soul is what makes you.
The brain is the hardware.

The mind is the software.

"The soul" is vaporware.

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2017-06-23 14:39:13 UTC
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You're nuts. The brain is only a 64K computer. Your soul is what makes you.
The brain is the hardware.
The mind is the software.
"The soul" is vaporware.
See: P Z Myers' blog:

Sunday Sacrilege: That other thing we don’t believe in

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/04/11/sunday-sacrilege-that-other-th/

for a good take on "the soul."

Kevin R
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2017-06-23 15:54:31 UTC
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That's just your belief. You have no real evidence to prove it.
Intelligence is not a physical function of the brain. It's what the
brain relies on in order to function. Intelligence operates the brain.
The brain does not operate intelligence.
Everything that makes "you" exists in the physical organ we call
the brain. Brain damage, chemical imbalance, and aging may
change "you" completely.
You're nuts. The brain is only a 64K computer. Your soul is what makes you.
The evidence says otherwise. Much as I'd love to believe there's an essential me that will survive when my brain fails, the evidence of brain damage, of drugs, of FMRI and PET imagining says otherwise.

And more fundamentally, nothing complex can exist forever because, sooner or later, it will encounter forces that tear it apart.
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2017-06-21 03:35:13 UTC
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http://youtu.be/-DiE4iLr8xs
To Summarise: The arguments for creationism that
The second law of thermodynamics applies to far from
equilibrium systems (which nobody who knows
thermodynamics would claim).
I'm glad you can understand this simple point than Mr.
Cloud who doesn't seem to be able to apply the second law
to a non-equilibrium system. However, you fail to realize
the fundamental difference between the non-equilibrium
system in the lifeless physical world and the one in life.
This is a key point in understanding why evolution is
wrong. The one in the lifeless physical world follows the
second law. The one in life moves against the second law.
This is why things in the lifeless physical world will
become corrupt over time while life can improve and advance
to become more complicated over time. By understanding the
cause of such non-equilibrium system in life that is
intelligence, one can logically conclude that life has to
be God's intelligent design. This is just simple logic.
There is nothing complicated in proving evolution wrong.
How did you conclude that? There is no single explanation how
God came into existence. You simply moved mixing link on
another level while living original question unanswered. God
is not the answer. God is another question.
Intelligence is non-physical.
Of course it is physical. Simple, natural or man-made molecules
can destroy the brain, "intelligence" and the personality of
anyone.
No. It only destroys the brain function to disable the ability of
intelligence to interact with the physical world. Intelligence is a
non-physical ability that is not just a mere physical function.
Yes, it is. It cannot be otherwise.
That's just your belief. You have no real evidence to prove it.
Of course I do. The whole of biology, physics, chemistry proves that
everything is based on physics, or "physical function", as you like to
call it.
Post by aaa
Intelligence is not a physical function of the brain.
It surely is. Whatever the definition you give to "intelligence", it
varies from people to people. For example, you're not very intelligent,
yet you manage to type words into a computer, so you're entirely brain
damaged.
Post by aaa
It's what the brain relies on in order to function.
No, the brains relies on physical molecules and physical structures to
operate.
Post by aaa
Intelligence operates the brain.
Nope. And you can't even begin to provide evidence for your silly claim.
Post by aaa
The brain does not operate intelligence.
Post by Olrik
And you can mangle the English language as much as you want, and you
can misunderstand or ignore science, reality and knowledge to your
heart's content, it won't change the fact that everything is
physical.
Post by aaa
It is an ability to control the physical function to act
intelligently.
That doesn't make any sense, like pretty much *everything* you write.
Just be happy until you die.
That would be you because you don't even bother to understand what I said.
There's nothing to understand. It's not sufficient to type words to get
meaningful knowledge.
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Post by aaa
It's one of the evidence of God. When intelligence is proven to
be the determining factor to create the non-equilibrium system
in life,
That makes no sense, even for a mentally-challenged creep like you.
It makes no sense because you have no idea what I'm talking about.
Because you make no sense. You just type words without understanding them.
Except you are the one who is clueless.
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Post by aaa
You never paid attention to the fundamental difference between the
non-equilibrium system in life and the non-equilibrium system in nature.
THAT'S MEANINGLESS!
(Sorry for the all-caps...)
You only emphasize your cluelessness with caps.
You provide evidence of your ignorance each day by showering a.a. by
your dozens upon dozens of useless brain farts.

Stop posting, enjoy life 'till you die and hope that as you get older,
and sicker, some good people will help you with your physical problems.

HANL
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aa #1981
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Alex W.
2017-06-21 06:00:37 UTC
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Intelligence is not a physical function of the brain.
It surely is. Whatever the definition you give to "intelligence", it
varies from people to people. For example, you're not very intelligent,
yet you manage to type words into a computer, so you're entirely brain
damaged.
How we measure intelligence is dependent on culture and context; maybe
that is what he is thinking of?
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Post by aaa
It's what the brain relies on in order to function.
No, the brains relies on physical molecules and physical structures to
operate.
...and this can be proven quite handily by manipulating or altering the
brain's structure.
Olrik
2017-06-21 06:14:40 UTC
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Intelligence is not a physical function of the brain.
It surely is. Whatever the definition you give to "intelligence", it
varies from people to people. For example, you're not very
intelligent, yet you manage to type words into a computer, so you're
entirely brain damaged.
How we measure intelligence is dependent on culture and context; maybe
that is what he is thinking of?
I don't think "intelligence" is a measure per se.

Picasso was not particularly "intelligent", and Einstein was not a good
painter, nor "artistic" in any meaningful way.

Yet, I think we need both of these creative minds to make our world full
and fascinating.
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Post by Olrik
Post by aaa
It's what the brain relies on in order to function.
No, the brains relies on physical molecules and physical structures to
operate.
...and this can be proven quite handily by manipulating or altering the
brain's structure.
In fucking deed...
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Peter Pan
2017-06-21 16:35:07 UTC
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Intelligence is not a physical function of the brain.
It surely is. Whatever the definition you give to "intelligence", it
varies from people to people. For example, you're not very intelligent,
yet you manage to type words into a computer, so you're entirely brain
damaged.
How we measure intelligence is dependent on culture and context; maybe
that is what he is thinking of?
No, aaa actually believes the "mind" is a spiritual,
non-physical entity entirely separate from the brain. The
"mind" is the seat of consciousness and thought. The
brain has no effect on these things. See my .sig.

S/he further maintains the mind controls the heart, and
the heart controls the brain.
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Post by aaa
It's what the brain relies on in order to function.
No, the brains relies on physical molecules and physical structures to
operate.
...and this can be proven quite handily by manipulating or altering the
brain's structure.
aaa is in denial of that fact. She claims to have
suffered a brain injury in an accident, and that the
injury didn't affect her "mind".

Draw your own conclusions. :)
--
"I suffered brain damage, but my mind is perfectly fine."
-- aaa

"The mind can't be altered by brain damage. Brain damage
only keeps the mind from functioning properly." -- aaa

"Drugs do not affect the brain." -- dr. aaa

"Stupidity is a mental deficiency. It has nothing to do
with brains." -- aaa, on the nature of stupidity

"There is no stupidity in our universe."
-- aaa proves idiots are just as smart as anyone else.

"I'm not at all well read. I don't read anything as a
matter of fact due to my brain injury. So I don't have to
provide the proof. It's just my opinion."
-- aaa, April 26, 2017; http://tinyurl.com/jwh4bpj

"I'm not denying anything." -- aaa denies her denial

"Because humans have sinned that has caused the
malfunction in the DNA coding." -- aaa's genetics

"I have said a lot of things. If you mix them up to put
them together, you won't be able to understand any of
it." -- aaa explains why she's so opaque

"I see you have nothing else to say except making empty
claims." -- aaa makes another empty claim

"From the view of entropy, the entropy of the wood is
greater than the entropy of water."
-- aaa explains why wood floats on water.
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Intelligence is not a physical function of the brain.
It surely is. Whatever the definition you give to "intelligence", it
varies from people to people. For example, you're not very intelligent,
yet you manage to type words into a computer, so you're entirely brain
damaged.
How we measure intelligence is dependent on culture and context; maybe
that is what he is thinking of?
No, aaa actually believes the "mind" is a spiritual,
non-physical entity entirely separate from the brain. The
"mind" is the seat of consciousness and thought. The
brain has no effect on these things. See my .sig.
I was being charitable, trying to put a positive spin on this pile of
steaming organic fertiliser. Maybe I am too good-hearted...
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S/he further maintains the mind controls the heart, and
the heart controls the brain.
For some light relief, someone should book her/him to entertain the
students of Human Anatomy 101....
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Post by Alex W.
Post by Olrik
Post by aaa
It's what the brain relies on in order to function.
No, the brains relies on physical molecules and physical structures to
operate.
...and this can be proven quite handily by manipulating or altering the
brain's structure.
aaa is in denial of that fact. She claims to have
suffered a brain injury in an accident, and that the
injury didn't affect her "mind".
Draw your own conclusions. :)
I came to my own conclusions a fair time ago, and have seen no evidence
to review or amend it. This individual is downright scary. To think
that people like that are permitted out in public, driving and voting
and dog knows what else is truly frightening.
Lucifer Morningstar
2017-06-22 02:42:17 UTC
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Intelligence is not a physical function of the brain.
It surely is. Whatever the definition you give to "intelligence", it
varies from people to people. For example, you're not very intelligent,
yet you manage to type words into a computer, so you're entirely brain
damaged.
How we measure intelligence is dependent on culture and context; maybe
that is what he is thinking of?
No, aaa actually believes the "mind" is a spiritual,
non-physical entity entirely separate from the brain. The
"mind" is the seat of consciousness and thought. The
brain has no effect on these things. See my .sig.
I was being charitable, trying to put a positive spin on this pile of
steaming organic fertiliser. Maybe I am too good-hearted...
Post by Peter Pan
S/he further maintains the mind controls the heart, and
the heart controls the brain.
For some light relief, someone should book her/him to entertain the
students of Human Anatomy 101....
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Post by Alex W.
Post by Olrik
Post by aaa
It's what the brain relies on in order to function.
No, the brains relies on physical molecules and physical structures to
operate.
...and this can be proven quite handily by manipulating or altering the
brain's structure.
aaa is in denial of that fact. She claims to have
suffered a brain injury in an accident, and that the
injury didn't affect her "mind".
Draw your own conclusions. :)
I came to my own conclusions a fair time ago, and have seen no evidence
to review or amend it. This individual is downright scary. To think
that people like that are permitted out in public, driving and voting
and dog knows what else is truly frightening.
Is it possible that what we call aaa is a poorly written Eliza
program?
Peter Pan
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Intelligence is not a physical function of the brain.
It surely is. Whatever the definition you give to "intelligence", it
varies from people to people. For example, you're not very intelligent,
yet you manage to type words into a computer, so you're entirely brain
damaged.
How we measure intelligence is dependent on culture and context; maybe
that is what he is thinking of?
No, aaa actually believes the "mind" is a spiritual,
non-physical entity entirely separate from the brain. The
"mind" is the seat of consciousness and thought. The
brain has no effect on these things. See my .sig.
I was being charitable, trying to put a positive spin on this pile of
steaming organic fertiliser. Maybe I am too good-hearted...
Post by Peter Pan
S/he further maintains the mind controls the heart, and
the heart controls the brain.
For some light relief, someone should book her/him to entertain the
students of Human Anatomy 101....
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Post by Alex W.
Post by Olrik
Post by aaa
It's what the brain relies on in order to function.
No, the brains relies on physical molecules and physical structures to
operate.
...and this can be proven quite handily by manipulating or altering the
brain's structure.
aaa is in denial of that fact. She claims to have
suffered a brain injury in an accident, and that the
injury didn't affect her "mind".
Draw your own conclusions. :)
I came to my own conclusions a fair time ago, and have seen no evidence
to review or amend it. This individual is downright scary. To think
that people like that are permitted out in public, driving and voting
and dog knows what else is truly frightening.
Is it possible that what we call aaa is a poorly written Eliza
program?
When Kevrob mentioned Poe's Law, I finally got it.

aaa is really a brilliant parody of creationists. I
mean, there's ordinary innate stupidity, and then there's
"hey everyone! look how awesomely stupid i am" stupidity.
How much creativity does it take to manufacture that?
A lot. Let alone manufacture it in such quantities and
with such consistency.

S/h/it might actually be an Eliza program, but it's
brilliantly written.
Lucifer Morningstar
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Intelligence is not a physical function of the brain.
It surely is. Whatever the definition you give to "intelligence", it
varies from people to people. For example, you're not very intelligent,
yet you manage to type words into a computer, so you're entirely brain
damaged.
How we measure intelligence is dependent on culture and context; maybe
that is what he is thinking of?
No, aaa actually believes the "mind" is a spiritual,
non-physical entity entirely separate from the brain. The
"mind" is the seat of consciousness and thought. The
brain has no effect on these things. See my .sig.
I was being charitable, trying to put a positive spin on this pile of
steaming organic fertiliser. Maybe I am too good-hearted...
Post by Peter Pan
S/he further maintains the mind controls the heart, and
the heart controls the brain.
For some light relief, someone should book her/him to entertain the
students of Human Anatomy 101....
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Alex W.
Post by Olrik
Post by aaa
It's what the brain relies on in order to function.
No, the brains relies on physical molecules and physical structures to
operate.
...and this can be proven quite handily by manipulating or altering the
brain's structure.
aaa is in denial of that fact. She claims to have
suffered a brain injury in an accident, and that the
injury didn't affect her "mind".
Draw your own conclusions. :)
I came to my own conclusions a fair time ago, and have seen no evidence
to review or amend it. This individual is downright scary. To think
that people like that are permitted out in public, driving and voting
and dog knows what else is truly frightening.
Is it possible that what we call aaa is a poorly written Eliza
program?
When Kevrob mentioned Poe's Law, I finally got it.
aaa is really a brilliant parody of creationists. I
mean, there's ordinary innate stupidity, and then there's
"hey everyone! look how awesomely stupid i am" stupidity.
How much creativity does it take to manufacture that?
A lot. Let alone manufacture it in such quantities and
with such consistency.
S/h/it might actually be an Eliza program, but it's
brilliantly written.
Perhaps aaa is a real person who was brought up by an
Eliza program.
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http://youtu.be/-DiE4iLr8xs
To Summarise: The arguments for creationism that
The second law of thermodynamics applies to far
from equilibrium systems (which nobody who knows
thermodynamics would claim).
I'm glad you can understand this simple point than Mr.
Cloud who doesn't seem to be able to apply the second
law to a non-equilibrium system. However, you fail to
realize the fundamental difference between the
non-equilibrium system in the lifeless physical world
and the one in life. This is a key point in
understanding why evolution is wrong. The one in the
lifeless physical world follows the second law. The one
in life moves against the second law. This is why
things in the lifeless physical world will become
corrupt over time while life can improve and advance to
become more complicated over time. By understanding
the cause of such non-equilibrium system in life that
is intelligence, one can logically conclude that life
has to be God's intelligent design. This is just simple
logic. There is nothing complicated in proving
evolution wrong.
How did you conclude that? There is no single explanation
how God came into existence. You simply moved mixing link
on another level while living original question
unanswered. God is not the answer. God is another
question.
Intelligence is non-physical.
Of course it is physical. Simple, natural or man-made
molecules can destroy the brain, "intelligence" and the
personality of anyone.
No. It only destroys the brain function to disable the ability
of intelligence to interact with the physical world.
Intelligence is a non-physical ability that is not just a mere
physical function.
Yes, it is. It cannot be otherwise.
That's just your belief. You have no real evidence to prove it.
Of course I do. The whole of biology, physics, chemistry proves that
everything is based on physics, or "physical function", as you like
to call it.
No. Intelligence is a philosophical subject. It can't be studied by
physical science, and no physical science pretends to study or explain
intelligence. You only assume that intelligence is a physical function
when nothing physical can demonstrate intelligence as its physical property.
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Intelligence is not a physical function of the brain.
It surely is. Whatever the definition you give to "intelligence", it
varies from people to people. For example, you're not very
intelligent, yet you manage to type words into a computer, so you're
entirely brain damaged.
The definition of intelligence in the dictionary shows itself being a
philosophical subject that can't be scientifically measured. It's
something that can only be understood philosophically as an ability to
control and manipulate the physical existence. It is greater and higher
than the physical existence because it has the ability to define the
physical existence.
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Post by aaa
It's what the brain relies on in order to function.
No, the brains relies on physical molecules and physical structures
to operate.
The brain relies on the braincells to function, but the brain function
does not show intelligence if there is no consciousness and intelligence
in the first place. So the brain function is only the way for
intelligence to express itself. The brain function does not generate
intelligence.
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Intelligence operates the brain.
Nope. And you can't even begin to provide evidence for your silly claim.
The evidence is the intelligence itself if you can understand it
philosophically.
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The brain does not operate intelligence.
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And you can mangle the English language as much as you want, and
you can misunderstand or ignore science, reality and knowledge to
your heart's content, it won't change the fact that everything
is physical.
Post by aaa
It is an ability to control the physical function to act
intelligently.
That doesn't make any sense, like pretty much *everything* you write.
Just be happy until you die.
That would be you because you don't even bother to understand what I said.
There's nothing to understand. It's not sufficient to type words to
get meaningful knowledge.
No. You need to understand philosophy in order to talk about intelligence.
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It's one of the evidence of God. When intelligence is
proven to be the determining factor to create the
non-equilibrium system in life,
That makes no sense, even for a mentally-challenged creep
like you.
It makes no sense because you have no idea what I'm talking
about.
Because you make no sense. You just type words without
understanding them.
Except you are the one who is clueless.
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Post by aaa
You never paid attention to the fundamental difference between
the non-equilibrium system in life and the non-equilibrium
system in nature.
THAT'S MEANINGLESS!
(Sorry for the all-caps...)
You only emphasize your cluelessness with caps.
You provide evidence of your ignorance each day by showering a.a. by
your dozens upon dozens of useless brain farts.
Stop posting, enjoy life 'till you die and hope that as you get
older, and sicker, some good people will help you with your physical
problems.
No. You need to better understand philosophy in order to realize your
own ignorance instead.
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No. You need to better understand philosophy in order to realize your
own ignorance instead.
I can't keep up with endless threads about nothing but misuse of
concepts, abuse of language and an abundance of ignorance.

You have yourself a nice burger.
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No. You need to better understand philosophy in order to realize your
own ignorance instead.
I can't keep up with endless threads about nothing but misuse of
concepts, abuse of language and an abundance of ignorance.
You have yourself a nice burger.
Once again you blame me for your own lack of understanding.
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No. You need to better understand philosophy in order to realize your
own ignorance instead.
I can't keep up with endless threads about nothing but misuse of
concepts, abuse of language and an abundance of ignorance.
You have yourself a nice burger.
Once again you blame me for your own lack of understanding.
I blame you for your lack of knowledge, intelligence and basic language
comprehension.

You just type words without knowing what they mean.
You type opinions like they were equal to actual scientific knowledge.

You're trying to tell people that your very personal mental experiences
are reality. They're not. They're just your own very personal brain farts.
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2017-06-23 10:34:42 UTC
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No. You need to better understand philosophy in order to realize your
own ignorance instead.
I can't keep up with endless threads about nothing but misuse of
concepts, abuse of language and an abundance of ignorance.
You have yourself a nice burger.
Once again you blame me for your own lack of understanding.
I blame you for your lack of knowledge, intelligence and basic language
comprehension.
You just type words without knowing what they mean.
You type opinions like they were equal to actual scientific knowledge.
You're trying to tell people that your very personal mental experiences
are reality. They're not. They're just your own very personal brain farts.
niu nian has admitted he has suffered a severe blow to the
head before he "got religion."

We are pretty sure he's either a brain-damage sufferer or a very
insistent troll pretending to be the same.

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2017-06-23 10:38:18 UTC
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No. You need to better understand philosophy in order to realize your
own ignorance instead.
I can't keep up with endless threads about nothing but misuse of
concepts, abuse of language and an abundance of ignorance.
You have yourself a nice burger.
Once again you blame me for your own lack of understanding.
I blame you for your lack of knowledge, intelligence and basic language
comprehension.
You just type words without knowing what they mean.
You type opinions like they were equal to actual scientific knowledge.
You're trying to tell people that your very personal mental experiences
are reality. They're not. They're just your own very personal brain farts.
aaa fails the Turing test.
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No. You need to better understand philosophy in order to realize your
own ignorance instead.
I can't keep up with endless threads about nothing but misuse of
concepts, abuse of language and an abundance of ignorance.
You have yourself a nice burger.
Once again you blame me for your own lack of understanding.
Who do you blame for your problems?
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2017-06-17 09:22:44 UTC
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Intelligence is non-physical.
Intelligence is a function of our physical brain.
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It's one of the evidence of God.
How so?
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When intelligence is proven to be the determining factor to create
the non-equilibrium system in life, it has indicated the work of God
in creating life.
When do you think that will happen?
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2017-06-17 11:56:03 UTC
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Intelligence is non-physical.
Intelligence is a function of our physical brain.
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It's one of the evidence of God.
How so?
His certifiable lunacy has made him obsessively and in-your-face
stupid.
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Post by aaa
When intelligence is proven to be the determining factor to create
the non-equilibrium system in life, it has indicated the work of God
in creating life.
When do you think that will happen?
Like I said, he's insane.
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2017-06-19 04:17:47 UTC
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Intelligence is non-physical.
Intelligence is a function of our physical brain.
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It's one of the evidence of God.
How so?
Post by aaa
When intelligence is proven to be the determining factor to create
the non-equilibrium system in life, it has indicated the work of God
in creating life.
When do you think that will happen?
Since it has happened to me, it should be easy to happen to everyone.
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Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, peace, freedom, and life itself.
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Intelligence is non-physical.
Intelligence is a function of our physical brain.
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It's one of the evidence of God.
How so?
Post by aaa
When intelligence is proven to be the determining factor to create
the non-equilibrium system in life, it has indicated the work of God
in creating life.
When do you think that will happen?
Since it has happened to me, it should be easy to happen to everyone.
You don't have intelligence.

When do you think intelligence will be proven to be the determining
factor to create the non-equilibrium system in life?

The update to your random phrase generator will solve a lot
of your problems.
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2017-06-19 14:20:30 UTC
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Intelligence is non-physical.
Intelligence is a function of our physical brain.
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It's one of the evidence of God.
How so?
Post by aaa
When intelligence is proven to be the determining factor to create
the non-equilibrium system in life, it has indicated the work of God
in creating life.
When do you think that will happen?
Since it has happened to me, it should be easy to happen to everyone.
You don't have intelligence.
When do you think intelligence will be proven to be the determining
factor to create the non-equilibrium system in life?
I proved evolution wrong and intelligent design right from the very
beginning. I think it was about refuting the DNA change as random
mutation. The beneficial DNA change proves itself as a work of
intelligence. It demonstrates awareness, understanding, solution, and
strategy. It is a highly intelligent active work to solve an urgent life
threatening problem with the language of DNA. It can't be a mere
statistical probability.
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The update to your random phrase generator will solve a lot
of your problems.
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Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, peace, freedom, and life itself.
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Intelligence is non-physical.
Intelligence is a function of our physical brain.
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It's one of the evidence of God.
How so?
Post by aaa
When intelligence is proven to be the determining factor to create
the non-equilibrium system in life, it has indicated the work of God
in creating life.
When do you think that will happen?
Since it has happened to me, it should be easy to happen to everyone.
You don't have intelligence.
When do you think intelligence will be proven to be the determining
factor to create the non-equilibrium system in life?
I proved evolution wrong and intelligent design right from the very
beginning. I think it was about refuting the DNA change as random
mutation. The beneficial DNA change proves itself as a work of
intelligence.
Ditto for detrimental DNA changes, right?
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It demonstrates awareness, understanding, solution, and
strategy. It is a highly intelligent active work to solve an urgent life
threatening problem with the language of DNA. It can't be a mere
statistical probability.
In that case why do genetic diseases still exist?
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2017-06-20 07:01:04 UTC
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Intelligence is non-physical.
Intelligence is a function of our physical brain.
Post by aaa
It's one of the evidence of God.
How so?
Post by aaa
When intelligence is proven to be the determining factor to create
the non-equilibrium system in life, it has indicated the work of God
in creating life.
When do you think that will happen?
Since it has happened to me, it should be easy to happen to everyone.
You don't have intelligence.
When do you think intelligence will be proven to be the determining
factor to create the non-equilibrium system in life?
I proved evolution wrong and intelligent design right from the very
beginning. I think it was about refuting the DNA change as random
mutation. The beneficial DNA change proves itself as a work of
intelligence.
Ditto for detrimental DNA changes, right?
No. Genetic disease is the result of sin.
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It demonstrates awareness, understanding, solution, and
strategy. It is a highly intelligent active work to solve an urgent life
threatening problem with the language of DNA. It can't be a mere
statistical probability.
In that case why do genetic diseases still exist?
Because humans have sinned that has caused the malfunction in the DNA
coding.
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Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
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2017-06-20 20:06:36 UTC
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Intelligence is non-physical.
Intelligence is a function of our physical brain.
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It's one of the evidence of God.
How so?
Post by aaa
When intelligence is proven to be the determining factor to create
the non-equilibrium system in life, it has indicated the work of God
in creating life.
When do you think that will happen?
Since it has happened to me, it should be easy to happen to everyone.
You don't have intelligence.
When do you think intelligence will be proven to be the determining
factor to create the non-equilibrium system in life?
I proved evolution wrong and intelligent design right from the very
beginning. I think it was about refuting the DNA change as random
mutation. The beneficial DNA change proves itself as a work of
intelligence.
Ditto for detrimental DNA changes, right?
No. Genetic disease is the result of sin.
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Post by aaa
It demonstrates awareness, understanding, solution, and
strategy. It is a highly intelligent active work to solve an urgent life
threatening problem with the language of DNA. It can't be a mere
statistical probability.
In that case why do genetic diseases still exist?
Because humans have sinned that has caused the malfunction in the DNA
coding.
Lol! Sig-grade material.
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"Because humans have sinned that has caused the
malfunction in the DNA coding." -- aaa's genetics

"I have said a lot of things. If you mix them up to put
them together, you won't be able to understand any of
it." -- aaa explains why she's so opaque

"I see you have nothing else to say except making empty
claims." -- aaa makes another empty claim

"From the view of entropy, the entropy of the wood is
greater than the entropy of water."
-- aaa explains why wood floats on water.

"I suffered brain damage, but my mind is perfectly fine."
-- aaa

"I'm not denying anything." -- aaa denies her denial

"The mind can't be altered by brain damage. Brain damage
only keeps the mind from functioning properly." -- aaa

"Drugs do not affect the brain." -- dr. aaa

"Stupidity is a mental deficiency. It has nothing to do
with brains." -- aaa, on the nature of stupidity

"There is no stupidity in our universe."
-- aaa proves idiots are just as smart as anyone else.

"I'm not at all well read. I don't read anything as a
matter of fact due to my brain injury. So I don't have to
provide the proof. It's just my opinion."
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Intelligence is non-physical.
Intelligence is a function of our physical brain.
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It's one of the evidence of God.
How so?
Post by aaa
When intelligence is proven to be the determining factor to create
the non-equilibrium system in life, it has indicated the work of God
in creating life.
When do you think that will happen?
Since it has happened to me, it should be easy to happen to everyone.
You don't have intelligence.
When do you think intelligence will be proven to be the determining
factor to create the non-equilibrium system in life?
I proved evolution wrong and intelligent design right from the very
beginning. I think it was about refuting the DNA change as random
mutation. The beneficial DNA change proves itself as a work of
intelligence.
Ditto for detrimental DNA changes, right?
No. Genetic disease is the result of sin.
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It demonstrates awareness, understanding, solution, and
strategy. It is a highly intelligent active work to solve an urgent life
threatening problem with the language of DNA. It can't be a mere
statistical probability.
In that case why do genetic diseases still exist?
Because humans have sinned that has caused the malfunction in the DNA
coding.
Lol! Sig-grade material.
That's good and I love it.

:-)
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Intelligence is non-physical.
Intelligence is a function of our physical brain.
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It's one of the evidence of God.
How so?
Post by aaa
When intelligence is proven to be the determining factor to create
the non-equilibrium system in life, it has indicated the work of God
in creating life.
When do you think that will happen?
Since it has happened to me, it should be easy to happen to everyone.
You don't have intelligence.
When do you think intelligence will be proven to be the determining
factor to create the non-equilibrium system in life?
I proved evolution wrong and intelligent design right from the very
beginning. I think it was about refuting the DNA change as random
mutation. The beneficial DNA change proves itself as a work of
intelligence.
Ditto for detrimental DNA changes, right?
No. Genetic disease is the result of sin.
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Post by aaa
It demonstrates awareness, understanding, solution, and
strategy. It is a highly intelligent active work to solve an urgent life
threatening problem with the language of DNA. It can't be a mere
statistical probability.
In that case why do genetic diseases still exist?
Because humans have sinned that has caused the malfunction in the DNA
coding.
Lol! Sig-grade material.
That's good and I love it.
:-)
See! There's that smilie.

I finally figgered you out, aaa. You trolled me good. We
should have all known nobody can really be that stupid in
RL.

Great job. <applause> You not only made creationists
look stupid by satirizing them, but you made fools out of
the rest of us who didn't realize it was a mega-troll.

So what are you, really? A skeptic of some sort, right?
A biologist? geologist? Some flavor of atheist? You can
come out now and take your kudos.
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2017-06-20 20:43:46 UTC
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It's one of the evidence of God.
How so?
Post by aaa
When intelligence is proven to be the determining factor to create
the non-equilibrium system in life, it has indicated the work of
God in creating life.
When do you think that will happen?
Since it has happened to me, it should be easy to happen to everyone.
You don't have intelligence.
When do you think intelligence will be proven to be the determining
factor to create the non-equilibrium system in life?
I proved evolution wrong and intelligent design right from the very
beginning. I think it was about refuting the DNA change as random
mutation. The beneficial DNA change proves itself as a work of
intelligence.
Ditto for detrimental DNA changes, right?
No. Genetic disease is the result of sin.
What peer reviewed scientific papers say that, liar?
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Post by aaa
It demonstrates awareness, understanding, solution, and strategy. It
is a highly intelligent active work to solve an urgent life
threatening problem with the language of DNA. It can't be a mere
statistical probability.
In that case why do genetic diseases still exist?
Because humans have sinned that has caused the malfunction in the DNA
coding.
Unevidenced bullshit woo-woo.
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Intelligence is non-physical.
Intelligence is a function of our physical brain.
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It's one of the evidence of God.
How so?
Post by aaa
When intelligence is proven to be the determining factor to create
the non-equilibrium system in life, it has indicated the work of
God in creating life.
When do you think that will happen?
Since it has happened to me, it should be easy to happen to everyone.
You don't have intelligence.
When do you think intelligence will be proven to be the determining
factor to create the non-equilibrium system in life?
I proved evolution wrong and intelligent design right from the very
beginning. I think it was about refuting the DNA change as random
mutation. The beneficial DNA change proves itself as a work of
intelligence.
Ditto for detrimental DNA changes, right?
No. Genetic disease is the result of sin.
What peer reviewed scientific papers say that, liar?
It's called a philosophical explanation for the human suffering. It's
not scientific, but it's greater than scientific because it's philosophical.
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It demonstrates awareness, understanding, solution, and strategy. It
is a highly intelligent active work to solve an urgent life
threatening problem with the language of DNA. It can't be a mere
statistical probability.
In that case why do genetic diseases still exist?
Because humans have sinned that has caused the malfunction in the DNA
coding.
Unevidenced bullshit woo-woo.
Blind denial.
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Malcolm McMahon
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Intelligence is non-physical.
Intelligence is a function of our physical brain.
Post by aaa
It's one of the evidence of God.
How so?
Post by aaa
When intelligence is proven to be the determining factor to create
the non-equilibrium system in life, it has indicated the work of
God in creating life.
When do you think that will happen?
Since it has happened to me, it should be easy to happen to everyone.
You don't have intelligence.
When do you think intelligence will be proven to be the determining
factor to create the non-equilibrium system in life?
I proved evolution wrong and intelligent design right from the very
beginning. I think it was about refuting the DNA change as random
mutation. The beneficial DNA change proves itself as a work of
intelligence.
Ditto for detrimental DNA changes, right?
No. Genetic disease is the result of sin.
What peer reviewed scientific papers say that, liar?
It's called a philosophical explanation for the human suffering. It's
not scientific, but it's greater than scientific because it's philosophical.
What exactly is your definition of "philosophy", because AFAIKS, it's not the same as anyone else's definition.
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It's one of the evidence of God.
How so?
Post by aaa
When intelligence is proven to be the determining factor to create
the non-equilibrium system in life, it has indicated the work of God
in creating life.
When do you think that will happen?
Since it has happened to me, it should be easy to happen to everyone.
You don't have intelligence.
When do you think intelligence will be proven to be the determining
factor to create the non-equilibrium system in life?
I proved evolution wrong and intelligent design right from the very
beginning.
No, you did not. The only thing you have proven is that you are retarded.

I think it was about refuting the DNA change as random
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mutation.
No, you never did that either.

The beneficial DNA change proves itself as a work of
Post by aaa
intelligence.
No, it isn't. That's just bullshit you made up.


It demonstrates awareness, understanding, solution, and
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strategy. It is a highly intelligent active work to solve an urgent life
threatening problem with the language of DNA. It can't be a mere
statistical probability.
And yet every non-fundamentalist scientist says it is.
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The update to your random phrase generator will solve a lot
of your problems.
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2017-06-20 07:02:26 UTC
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It's one of the evidence of God.
How so?
Post by aaa
When intelligence is proven to be the determining factor to create
the non-equilibrium system in life, it has indicated the work of God
in creating life.
When do you think that will happen?
Since it has happened to me, it should be easy to happen to everyone.
You don't have intelligence.
When do you think intelligence will be proven to be the determining
factor to create the non-equilibrium system in life?
I proved evolution wrong and intelligent design right from the very
beginning.
No, you did not. The only thing you have proven is that you are retarded.
I think it was about refuting the DNA change as random
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mutation.
No, you never did that either.
The beneficial DNA change proves itself as a work of
Post by aaa
intelligence.
No, it isn't. That's just bullshit you made up.
It demonstrates awareness, understanding, solution, and
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strategy. It is a highly intelligent active work to solve an urgent life
threatening problem with the language of DNA. It can't be a mere
statistical probability.
And yet every non-fundamentalist scientist says it is.
You fail to argue my actual point.
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Intelligence is non-physical.
Intelligence is a function of our physical brain.
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It's one of the evidence of God.
How so?
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When intelligence is proven to be the determining factor to create
the non-equilibrium system in life, it has indicated the work of
God in creating life.
When do you think that will happen?
Since it has happened to me, it should be easy to happen to everyone.
You don't have intelligence.
When do you think intelligence will be proven to be the determining
factor to create the non-equilibrium system in life?
I proved evolution wrong and intelligent design right from the very
beginning.
No, you did not. The only thing you have proven is that you are retarded.
I think it was about refuting the DNA change as random
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mutation.
No, you never did that either.
The beneficial DNA change proves itself as a work of
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intelligence.
No, it isn't. That's just bullshit you made up.
It demonstrates awareness, understanding, solution, and
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strategy. It is a highly intelligent active work to solve an urgent
life threatening problem with the language of DNA. It can't be a mere
statistical probability.
And yet every non-fundamentalist scientist says it is.
You fail to argue my actual point.
You fail to have any point.
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It demonstrates awareness, understanding, solution, and
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strategy. It is a highly intelligent active work to solve an urgent
life threatening problem with the language of DNA. It can't be a mere
statistical probability.
And yet every non-fundamentalist scientist says it is.
You fail to argue my actual point.
You fail to have any point.
My simple point in the above is irrefutable.
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Intelligence is non-physical.
Intelligence is a function of our physical brain.
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It's one of the evidence of God.
How so?
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When intelligence is proven to be the determining factor to create
the non-equilibrium system in life, it has indicated the work of God
in creating life.
When do you think that will happen?
Since it has happened to me, it should be easy to happen to everyone.
You don't have intelligence.
When do you think intelligence will be proven to be the determining
factor to create the non-equilibrium system in life?
I proved evolution wrong and intelligent design right from the very
beginning.
I am so sorry I missed that. Please provide your proof again so
I will be without excuse.
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I think it was about refuting the DNA change as random mutation.
How did you come to know so much?
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The beneficial DNA change proves itself as a work of intelligence.
It demonstrates awareness, understanding, solution, and strategy.
It is a highly intelligent active work to solve an urgent life
threatening problem with the language of DNA. It can't be a mere
statistical probability.
You must be one of those people that think it takes a God to mess
things up as much as they are.

Are stupidity and disease a work of intelligence?



Would you consider a "sticky" post containing all your proof?
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It's one of the evidence of God.
How so?
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When intelligence is proven to be the determining factor to create
the non-equilibrium system in life, it has indicated the work of God
in creating life.
When do you think that will happen?
Since it has happened to me, it should be easy to happen to everyone.
You don't have intelligence.
When do you think intelligence will be proven to be the determining
factor to create the non-equilibrium system in life?
I proved evolution wrong and intelligent design right from the very
beginning.
I am so sorry I missed that. Please provide your proof again so
I will be without excuse.
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I think it was about refuting the DNA change as random mutation.
How did you come to know so much?
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The beneficial DNA change proves itself as a work of intelligence.
It demonstrates awareness, understanding, solution, and strategy.
It is a highly intelligent active work to solve an urgent life
threatening problem with the language of DNA. It can't be a mere
statistical probability.
You must be one of those people that think it takes a God to mess
things up as much as they are.
Are stupidity and disease a work of intelligence?
Would you consider a "sticky" post containing all your proof?
Thanks for ignoring my point so completely. I'm quite satisfied actually.
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It's one of the evidence of God.
How so?
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When intelligence is proven to be the determining factor to create
the non-equilibrium system in life, it has indicated the work of God
in creating life.
When do you think that will happen?
Since it has happened to me, it should be easy to happen to everyone.
You don't have intelligence.
When do you think intelligence will be proven to be the determining
factor to create the non-equilibrium system in life?
I proved evolution wrong and intelligent design right from the very
beginning.
I am so sorry I missed that. Please provide your proof again so
I will be without excuse.
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I think it was about refuting the DNA change as random mutation.
How did you come to know so much?
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The beneficial DNA change proves itself as a work of intelligence.
It demonstrates awareness, understanding, solution, and strategy.
It is a highly intelligent active work to solve an urgent life
threatening problem with the language of DNA. It can't be a mere
statistical probability.
You must be one of those people that think it takes a God to mess
things up as much as they are.
Are stupidity and disease a work of intelligence?
Would you consider a "sticky" post containing all your proof?
Thanks for ignoring my point so completely.
It is my turn to thank you for ignoring my questions.
By doing so you actually answered them.
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I'm quite satisfied actually.
I'm not interested in your sex life.
aaa
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Intelligence is a function of our physical brain.
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It's one of the evidence of God.
How so?
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When intelligence is proven to be the determining factor to create
the non-equilibrium system in life, it has indicated the work of God
in creating life.
When do you think that will happen?
Since it has happened to me, it should be easy to happen to everyone.
You don't have intelligence.
When do you think intelligence will be proven to be the determining
factor to create the non-equilibrium system in life?
I proved evolution wrong and intelligent design right from the very
beginning.
I am so sorry I missed that. Please provide your proof again so
I will be without excuse.
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I think it was about refuting the DNA change as random mutation.
How did you come to know so much?
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The beneficial DNA change proves itself as a work of intelligence.
It demonstrates awareness, understanding, solution, and strategy.
It is a highly intelligent active work to solve an urgent life
threatening problem with the language of DNA. It can't be a mere
statistical probability.
You must be one of those people that think it takes a God to mess
things up as much as they are.
Are stupidity and disease a work of intelligence?
Would you consider a "sticky" post containing all your proof?
Thanks for ignoring my point so completely.
It is my turn to thank you for ignoring my questions.
By doing so you actually answered them.
I don't even understand what the fuck are you asking about. I only see
you can't deal with my simple point.
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I'm quite satisfied actually.
I'm not interested in your sex life.
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You must be one of those people that think it takes a God to mess
things up as much as they are.
Are stupidity and disease a work of intelligence?
Would you consider a "sticky" post containing all your proof?
Thanks for ignoring my point so completely.
It is my turn to thank you for ignoring my questions.
By doing so you actually answered them.
I don't even understand what the fuck are you asking about.
You should ask for a clarification. But first you need to tell
us what you can understand.
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I only see you can't deal with my simple point.
I don't understand your simple mind.
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I'm quite satisfied actually.
I'm not interested in your sex life.
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It's one of the evidence of God.
How so?
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When intelligence is proven to be the determining factor to create
the non-equilibrium system in life, it has indicated the work of God
in creating life.
When do you think that will happen?
Since it has happened to me, it should be easy to happen to everyone.
You don't have intelligence.
When do you think intelligence will be proven to be the determining
factor to create the non-equilibrium system in life?
I proved evolution wrong and intelligent design right from the very
beginning.
I am so sorry I missed that. Please provide your proof again so
I will be without excuse.
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I think it was about refuting the DNA change as random mutation.
How did you come to know so much?
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The beneficial DNA change proves itself as a work of intelligence.
It demonstrates awareness, understanding, solution, and strategy.
It is a highly intelligent active work to solve an urgent life
threatening problem with the language of DNA. It can't be a mere
statistical probability.
You must be one of those people that think it takes a God to mess
things up as much as they are.
Are stupidity and disease a work of intelligence?
Would you consider a "sticky" post containing all your proof?
Thanks for ignoring my point so completely. I'm quite satisfied actually.
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Intelligence is a function of our physical brain.
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It's one of the evidence of God.
How so?
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When intelligence is proven to be the determining factor to create
the non-equilibrium system in life, it has indicated the work of God
in creating life.
When do you think that will happen?
Since it has happened to me, it should be easy to happen to everyone.
You don't have intelligence.
When do you think intelligence will be proven to be the determining
factor to create the non-equilibrium system in life?
I proved evolution wrong and intelligent design right from the very
beginning.
I am so sorry I missed that. Please provide your proof again so
I will be without excuse.
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I think it was about refuting the DNA change as random mutation.
How did you come to know so much?
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The beneficial DNA change proves itself as a work of intelligence.
It demonstrates awareness, understanding, solution, and strategy.
It is a highly intelligent active work to solve an urgent life
threatening problem with the language of DNA. It can't be a mere
statistical probability.
You must be one of those people that think it takes a God to mess
things up as much as they are.
Are stupidity and disease a work of intelligence?
Would you consider a "sticky" post containing all your proof?
Thanks for ignoring my point so completely. I'm quite satisfied actually.
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Except you are the loser who can't discuss anything logically. Without
acknowledging God, without acknowledging the truth of God, you lose in a
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Would you consider a "sticky" post containing all your proof?
Thanks for ignoring my point so completely. I'm quite satisfied actually.
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Except you are the loser who can't discuss anything logically. Without
acknowledging God, without acknowledging the truth of God, you lose in a
logical discussion every time.
We are acknowledging the truth of God that God does not exist.

Would you consider a "sticky" post containing all your proof?
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I think it was about refuting the DNA change as random
mutation. The beneficial DNA change proves itself as a work of
intelligence. It demonstrates awareness, understanding, solution, and
strategy. It is a highly intelligent active work to solve an urgent life
threatening problem with the language of DNA. It can't be a mere
statistical probability.
How does the organism solve "an urgent life threatening
problem" by simply passing the so-called "benefical DNA
change" on to offspring?

You realize DNA mutations only matter when producing
gametes, right? (Gametes means sperms & eggs, aaa.) So
they don't have any effect until the next generation. So
how does this solve an immediate ULTP?

Or are you claiming your BDCs happen simultaneously to
every cell in the organism, of which there may be
trillions?
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I think it was about refuting the DNA change as random
mutation. The beneficial DNA change proves itself as a work of
intelligence. It demonstrates awareness, understanding, solution, and
strategy. It is a highly intelligent active work to solve an urgent life
threatening problem with the language of DNA. It can't be a mere
statistical probability.
How does the organism solve "an urgent life threatening
problem" by simply passing the so-called "benefical DNA
change" on to offspring?
You realize DNA mutations only matter when producing
gametes, right? (Gametes means sperms & eggs, aaa.) So
they don't have any effect until the next generation. So
how does this solve an immediate ULTP?
Or are you claiming your BDCs happen simultaneously to
every cell in the organism, of which there may be
trillions?
The beneficial DNA change does ensure the survival of the bacteria in an
antibiotic environment. It provides the antibiotic resistance to all
populations. How is it passed on to the entire population is something
for scientists to study and explain.
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I think it was about refuting the DNA change as random
mutation. The beneficial DNA change proves itself as a work of
intelligence. It demonstrates awareness, understanding, solution, and
strategy. It is a highly intelligent active work to solve an urgent life
threatening problem with the language of DNA. It can't be a mere
statistical probability.
How does the organism solve "an urgent life threatening
problem" by simply passing the so-called "benefical DNA
change" on to offspring?
You realize DNA mutations only matter when producing
gametes, right? (Gametes means sperms & eggs, aaa.) So
they don't have any effect until the next generation. So
how does this solve an immediate ULTP?
Or are you claiming your BDCs happen simultaneously to
every cell in the organism, of which there may be
trillions?
The beneficial DNA change does ensure the survival of the bacteria in an
antibiotic environment. It provides the antibiotic resistance to all
populations. How is it passed on to the entire population is something
for scientists to study and explain.
It was pretty clever of you to pretend to not understand
the question. I never would have thought of that if i
were doing the trolling.

The part about someone else having to do the work of
proving the nutty "theory" is pretty good too. Not an
original, but it's an effective evasive maneuver.

Have you practiced usenet trolling a lot in other groups?
Was a.a. a tough nut to crack?
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It's one of the evidence of God.
How so?
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When intelligence is proven to be the determining factor to create
the non-equilibrium system in life, it has indicated the work of God
in creating life.
When do you think that will happen?
Since it has happened to me, it should be easy to happen to everyone.
I refuse to get brain damage so I might be able to see a hallucination of a nonexistent deity.
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2017-06-20 07:04:57 UTC
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It's one of the evidence of God.
How so?
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When intelligence is proven to be the determining factor to create
the non-equilibrium system in life, it has indicated the work of God
in creating life.
When do you think that will happen?
Since it has happened to me, it should be easy to happen to everyone.
I refuse to get brain damage so I might be able to see a hallucination of a nonexistent deity.
Pure imagination. You have nothing else to talk about.
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It's one of the evidence of God.
How so?
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When intelligence is proven to be the determining factor to create
the non-equilibrium system in life, it has indicated the work of God
in creating life.
When do you think that will happen?
Since it has happened to me, it should be easy to happen to everyone.
I refuse to get brain damage so I might be able to see a hallucination
of a nonexistent deity.
Pure imagination.
Yep. That's all you have.
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It's one of the evidence of God.
How so?
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When intelligence is proven to be the determining factor to create
the non-equilibrium system in life, it has indicated the work of God
in creating life.
When do you think that will happen?
Since it has happened to me, it should be easy to happen to everyone.
I refuse to get brain damage so I might be able to see a hallucination
of a nonexistent deity.
Pure imagination.
Yep. That's all you have.
Pure projection.
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The second law of thermodynamics applies to far from equilibrium
systems (which nobody who knows thermodynamics would claim).
I'm glad you can understand this simple point than Mr. Cloud who doesn't
seem to be able to apply the second law to a non-equilibrium system.
However, you fail to realize the fundamental difference between the
non-equilibrium system in the lifeless physical world and the one in
life. This is a key point in understanding why evolution is wrong. The
one in the lifeless physical world follows the second law. The one in
life moves against the second law. This is why things in the lifeless
physical world will become corrupt over time while life can improve and
advance to become more complicated over time. By understanding the cause
of such non-equilibrium system in life that is intelligence, one can
logically conclude that life has to be God's intelligent design. This is
just simple logic. There is nothing complicated in proving evolution wrong.
What people fail to realise is when aaa uses the word law he means
suggestion.
So when aaa writes The second law of thermodynamics he means
The second suggestion of thermodynamics.
That way his crappy God can overwrite it at will.
aaa is overstocked with straw and needs to use it up by creating
strawmen.
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The second law of thermodynamics applies to far from equilibrium
systems (which nobody who knows thermodynamics would claim).
Life is just too damn complicated to have evolved "by chance".
Mostly the second.
Here we go again.
I don't recall ever even mentioning the Second Law of Thermodynamics
in any of my posts. I'm going to have to ask you to please, when
you make those kind of assertions about something (you think) I've
done, accompany them with the date and time of the post.
Otherwise, I will just ignore them.
Sorry, that would be aaaa - I don't find it worth making the
distinction.
Still; have you got a third argument?
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2017-06-18 12:55:47 UTC
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The second law of thermodynamics applies to far from equilibrium
systems (which nobody who knows thermodynamics would claim).
Life is just too damn complicated to have evolved "by chance".
Mostly the second.
Here we go again.
I don't recall ever even mentioning the Second Law of Thermodynamics
in any of my posts. I'm going to have to ask you to please, when
you make those kind of assertions about something (you think) I've
done, accompany them with the date and time of the post.
Otherwise, I will just ignore them.
Sorry, that would be aaaa - I don't find it worth making the
distinction.
Still; have you got a third argument?
Yes.
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often respond while creationists spew personal insults, twisted logic
and reasoning along with semantics with excessive detail of complete
speculation presented as truth, to deviate from the critical argument
at hand, and talk at cross purposes to evade it." --Rutro
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The second law of thermodynamics applies to far from equilibrium
systems (which nobody who knows thermodynamics would claim).
Life is just too damn complicated to have evolved "by chance".
Mostly the second.
Here we go again.
I don't recall ever even mentioning the Second Law of
Thermodynamics in any of my posts. I'm going to have to ask you to
please, when you make those kind of assertions about something (you
think) I've done, accompany them with the date and time of the
post. Otherwise, I will just ignore them.
Sorry, that would be aaaa - I don't find it worth making the
distinction.
Still; have you got a third argument?
Yes.
Argue this:

<https://sphericalbullshit.wordpress.com/2013/05/02/what-i-would-say-to-c
reationists-if-i-was-more-of-a-dick/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zascach>

<https://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/philosop/creation.htm>

<http://tinyurl.com/kzzmt4g>
John Locke
2017-06-16 14:58:09 UTC
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The second law of thermodynamics applies to far from equilibrium
systems (which nobody who knows thermodynamics would claim).
Life is just too damn _complicated_ to have evolved "by chance".
Mostly the second.
Here we go again.
I don't recall ever even mentioning the Second Law of Thermodynamics
in any of my posts. I'm going to have to ask you to please, when you make
those kind of assertions about something (you think) I've done, accompany
them with the date and time of the post. Otherwise, I will just ignore
them.
...you've posted links to creationist videos espousing their erroneous
"Second Law of Thermodynamics" argument, multiple times.

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The second law of thermodynamics applies to far from equilibrium
systems (which nobody who knows thermodynamics would claim).
Life is just too damn _complicated_ to have evolved "by chance".
Mostly the second.
Here we go again.
I don't recall ever even mentioning the Second Law of Thermodynamics
in any of my posts. I'm going to have to ask you to please, when you make
those kind of assertions about something (you think) I've done, accompany
them with the date and time of the post. Otherwise, I will just ignore
them.
...you've posted links to creationist videos espousing their erroneous
"Second Law of Thermodynamics" argument, multiple times.
Says the idiot who cannot refute even one of the videos I've posted
links to.

For some reason I find it impossible to believe *anything* you say.

Those whom God has chosen to receive salvation innately know that
you are a liar.

"A stranger they will not follow, but they will flee from him, for they
do not know the voice of strangers."
(John 10:5)

Those whom God has chosen to condemn to Hell instinctively choose
to believe your lies.

"Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe
what is false, in order that all may be condemned who did not believe
the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness."
(2 Thessalonians 2:11-12)

What God has sovereignly decreed to happen, will happen.

Your words are empty and worthless.

Your words have no effect on what anyone believes.

Everything will remain just as it was before you were born, and will be
long after you're dead.

You are only wasting what little bit of time you have left.
--
"When atheists are presented with critical reasoned arguments, they often
respond with either personal insults, twisted logic and reasoning along
with semantics with excessive detail of complete speculation presented
as truth, to deviate from the critical argument at hand, and talk at
cross purposes to evade it." --Retro
Bob
2017-06-17 10:15:25 UTC
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To Summarise: The arguments for creationism that you've found
The second law of thermodynamics applies to far from equilibrium
systems (which nobody who knows thermodynamics would claim).
Life is just too damn complicated to have evolved "by chance".
Mostly the second.
Here we go again.
I don't recall ever even mentioning the Second Law of Thermodynamics
in any of my posts. I'm going to have to ask you to please, when
you make those kind of assertions about something (you think) I've
done, accompany them with the date and time of the post.
Otherwise, I will just ignore them.
...you've posted links to creationist videos espousing their erroneous
"Second Law of Thermodynamics" argument, multiple times.
The Second Law disproves evolution as the video explains.


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"When atheists are presented with critical reasoned arguments, they
often respond while creationists spew personal insults, twisted logic
and reasoning along with semantics with excessive detail of complete
speculation presented as truth, to deviate from the critical argument
at hand, and talk at cross purposes to evade it." --Rutro
a322x1n
2017-06-17 17:11:15 UTC
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Post by John Locke
Post by Bob
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http://youtu.be/-DiE4iLr8xs
To Summarise: The arguments for creationism that you've found
The second law of thermodynamics applies to far from equilibrium
systems (which nobody who knows thermodynamics would claim).
Life is just too damn complicated to have evolved "by chance".
Mostly the second.
Here we go again.
I don't recall ever even mentioning the Second Law of Thermodynamics
in any of my posts. I'm going to have to ask you to please, when
you make those kind of assertions about something (you think) I've
done, accompany them with the date and time of the post.
Otherwise, I will just ignore them.
...you've posted links to creationist videos espousing their erroneous
"Second Law of Thermodynamics" argument, multiple times.
The Second Law disproves evolution as the video explains.
https://www.youtube.com/watch-Bob-Bull-Shit/
<https://sphericalbullshit.wordpress.com/2013/05/02/what-i-would-say-to-
creationists-if-i-was-more-of-a-dick/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zascach>
Christopher A. Lee
2017-06-17 17:35:17 UTC
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Post by Bob
Post by John Locke
Post by Bob
Post by Malcolm McMahon
Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/-DiE4iLr8xs
To Summarise: The arguments for creationism that you've found
The second law of thermodynamics applies to far from equilibrium
systems (which nobody who knows thermodynamics would claim).
Life is just too damn complicated to have evolved "by chance".
Mostly the second.
Here we go again.
I don't recall ever even mentioning the Second Law of Thermodynamics
in any of my posts. I'm going to have to ask you to please, when
you make those kind of assertions about something (you think) I've
done, accompany them with the date and time of the post.
Otherwise, I will just ignore them.
...you've posted links to creationist videos espousing their erroneous
"Second Law of Thermodynamics" argument, multiple times.
The Second Law disproves evolution as the video explains.
Liar.
Post by a322x1n
Post by Bob
https://www.youtube.com/watch-Bob-Bull-Shit/
"Watch this video and you will be convinced that Earth really is flat"
Post by a322x1n
<https://sphericalbullshit.wordpress.com/2013/05/02/what-i-would-say-to-
creationists-if-i-was-more-of-a-dick/>
<http://tinyurl.com/zascach>
Why can't the proven serial liar stop lying?
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