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Evolve This
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The Bible or the atheists from the West?????



Christianity is the belief that JESUS is Christ, that is to say, the Jewish Messiah. Nothing about Son Of God.


What about the belief that JESUS is the Son Of God????
Catholicism or Sonism.....


Islam is the belief that JESUS is the Christ foretold in the Law of Moses, therefore believers must submit not only to the TEN Commandments, but to the rest of the Civil and criminal codes.


Is America a Christian nation?
No, because the founding Fathers of the American government failed to ratify the 10 Commandment, and for the simple reason that the First Amendment to their Constitution, the supreme Law of the land, seeks to override the First Commandment.


Is America an ANTICHRIST nation?
Yes, America is an ANTICHRIST nation as its Laws rejected the Covenant mediated by Christ and seeks to universalize Polytheism, paganism, Neo-Paganism, and Idol worship, and Crass Capitalism using the United Nations as a channel.


The Vatican is the Seat of the former Roman Government now metamorphosed into the SEAT of Peter run by the Romulus priesthood.


The Presidency is the Seat of Augustus Caesar given to Peter. Ouside the Roman Imperial Jurisdiction, hostile elements from the enlightenment renamed it Presidency. Inside the Roman world, we call it the SEAT OF PETER, or the Seat of Mohammad in Orient.


Are the United Nations Resolutions as good as Canonical Laws, that's to say, Laws which are in line with the Covenant mediated by Christ?
No, the United Nations resolutions are Satanic Laws which set themselves in the way of God's kingdom on earth.

How do men advance God's kingdom?
Men advance God's kingdom by translating Christ's will compiled in the New Testament into the Law and the Moral foundation of their land.
As soon as the secret quota of good souls is reached, JESUS will come back to re-people the world with a new kind of humanity. PURIFY YOURSELF. You have every mean now at your disposal in Christ If you want to be among the lucky ones.

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Africa-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A stick to your values through God's wise Laws. Seek NO other God but JESUS.
In the event of war, confer with Russia to wipe out the Sodomites nations.
God will give you victories.
To Hell with the International Re-Colonization Court at the Hague. Freedom for President Laurent Gbagbo Now.
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2017-02-15 04:39:29 UTC
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2017-02-15 07:37:39 UTC
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The Bible or the atheists from the West?????
You theists are the brain damaged ones who get to define what Christianity is.....

But, you theists have no right to assign your deity to cover all other non-believers!!!!!!!!!!! You are not given that authority, neither have you shown an authorized appointment letter from your deity. Even if you have such appointment, we non-believers must agree.
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Christianity is the belief that JESUS is Christ, that is to say, the Jewish Messiah. Nothing about Son Of God.
Dead person.
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What about the belief that JESUS is the Son Of God????
Catholicism or Sonism.....
Bullshit.
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Islam is the belief that JESUS is the Christ foretold in the Law of Moses, therefore believers must submit not only to the TEN Commandments, but to the rest of the Civil and criminal codes.
We modern people submit only to our national laws, so do you moron.
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Is America a Christian nation?
No, because the founding Fathers of the American government failed to ratify the 10 Commandment, and for the simple reason that the First Amendment to their Constitution, the supreme Law of the land, seeks to override the First Commandment.
There is no law of any land incorporating your 10 stupid religious bullshit.
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Is America an ANTICHRIST nation?
Yes, America is an ANTICHRIST nation as its Laws rejected the Covenant mediated by Christ and seeks to universalize Polytheism, paganism, Neo-Paganism, and Idol worship, and Crass Capitalism using the United Nations as a channel.
I believe one day you will be clobbered hard by the believers from USA.
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The Vatican is the Seat of the former Roman Government now metamorphosed into the SEAT of Peter run by the Romulus priesthood.
Vatican is the seat of power for the criminal molesting priests.
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The Presidency is the Seat of Augustus Caesar given to Peter. Ouside the Roman Imperial Jurisdiction, hostile elements from the enlightenment renamed it Presidency. Inside the Roman world, we call it the SEAT OF PETER, or the Seat of Mohammad in Orient.
Please go and seek reunion with those mentioned.
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Are the United Nations Resolutions as good as Canonical Laws, that's to say, Laws which are in line with the Covenant mediated by Christ?
No, the United Nations resolutions are Satanic Laws which set themselves in the way of God's kingdom on earth.
We earthy people do not need to have a theist like you as the rightful residence in this world. You are free to go to your hell or heaven....sooner the better.
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How do men advance God's kingdom?
Men advance God's kingdom by translating Christ's will compiled in the New Testament into the Law and the Moral foundation of their land.
As soon as the secret quota of good souls is reached, JESUS will come back to re-people the world with a new kind of humanity. PURIFY YOURSELF. You have every mean now at your disposal in Christ If you want to be among the lucky ones.
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Africa-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A stick to your values through God's wise Laws. Seek NO other God but JESUS.
In the event of war, confer with Russia to wipe out the Sodomites nations.
God will give you victories.
To Hell with the International Re-Colonization Court at the Hague. Freedom for President Laurent Gbagbo Now.
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2017-02-15 16:48:52 UTC
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The Bible or the atheists from the West?????
You theists are the brain damaged ones who get to define what Christianity is.....
Christianity is already defined in the Bible. Another attempt to define it is nothing but a result of ignorance.
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Christianity is the belief that JESUS is Christ, that is to say, the Jewish Messiah. Nothing about Son Of God.
Dead person.
Dead person is consistent the Hebraic Scriptures which foretold Christ advent. But His resurrection clearly shows that life doesn't end here.
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What about the belief that JESUS is the Son Of God????
Catholicism or Sonism.....
Bullshit.
You don't know....You don't even understand the Catholic CREED from a philosophical stand point.
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Islam is the belief that JESUS is the Christ foretold in the Law of Moses, therefore believers must submit not only to the TEN Commandments, but to the rest of the Civil and criminal codes.
We modern people submit only to our national laws, so do you moron.
The UN resolutions are NOT national Law. And bowing to cows is polytheism. TRY Christ and you have ratified the 10 Commandments ushered in some transcendental Laws
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Amendment to their Constitution, the supreme Law of the land, seeks to override the First Commandment.
There is no law of any land incorporating your 10 stupid religious bullshit.
Proof that you don't understand the history of the Roman empire from Caesar to Christ. Referring to Jesus as the Son Of God is the ratification of the 10 Commandments overriding the worship of Caesar as son of god.
The Canonical Law, the Law which ruled Europe for at least 1000 years is 10 Commandments based.
The 10 Commandments are more enlightening than cow worship
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Is America an ANTICHRIST nation?
Yes, America is an ANTICHRIST nation as its Laws rejected the Covenant mediated by Christ and seeks to universalize Polytheism, paganism, Neo-Paganism, and Idol worship, and Crass Capitalism using the United Nations as a channel.
I believe one day you will be clobbered hard by the believers from USA.
They are fake Catholics trying to saw off the branch they are sitting through ignorance.
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The Vatican is the Seat of the former Roman Government now metamorphosed into the SEAT of Peter run by the Romulus priesthood.
Vatican is the seat of power for the criminal molesting priests.
The priesthood can be tracked back to Romulus priesthood was my point.
By the way, Romulus was the founder of Rome.
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We earthy people do not need to have a theist like you as the rightful >residence in this world. You are free to go to your hell or >heaven....sooner the better.
India is the land of Primitives people who bow to cows. You need first to bring your civilization up to the Universal standard before being counted as people of the earth.
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2017-02-15 18:40:15 UTC
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Christianity is
A riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma; and the longest
running con game in history.
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2017-02-15 18:59:13 UTC
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Christianity is
A riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma; and the longest
running con game in history.
The riddle and mystery part is true, still we know that JESUS had to be the Messiah/Christ for Christianity to get off the ground. So definitely the Son of God crowd has NO monopoly on hristianity, neither does the FAG ASS WHITE MAN.... The Bible should be the sole authority to define.
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2017-02-15 23:47:42 UTC
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Christianity is
A riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma; and the longest
running con game in history.
The riddle and mystery part is true, still we know that JESUS had to be the
Messiah/Christ for Christianity to get off the ground.
Why?
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2017-02-15 23:53:17 UTC
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Christianity is
A riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma; and the longest
running con game in history.
The riddle and mystery part is true, still we know that JESUS had to be the
Messiah/Christ for Christianity to get off the ground.
Why?
Fuck Off And Die, worthless slut.... Nobody will miss you.
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Christianity is
A riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma; and the longest
running con game in history.
The riddle and mystery part is true, still we know that JESUS had to be the
Messiah/Christ for Christianity to get off the ground.
Why?
<snippage of non-answer>

Try again and this time answer the question.
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2017-02-15 18:44:03 UTC
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The Bible or the atheists from the West?????
Christianity is the belief that JESUS is Christ, that is to say, the Jewish Messiah. Nothing about Son Of God.
What about the belief that JESUS is the Son Of God????
Catholicism or Sonism.....
Islam is the belief that JESUS is the Christ foretold in the Law of Moses, therefore believers must submit not only to the TEN Commandments, but to the rest of the Civil and criminal codes.
Is America a Christian nation?
No, because the founding Fathers of the American government failed to ratify the 10 Commandment, and for the simple reason that the First Amendment to their Constitution, the supreme Law of the land, seeks to override the First Commandment.
Is America an ANTICHRIST nation?
Yes, America is an ANTICHRIST nation as its Laws rejected the Covenant mediated by Christ and seeks to universalize Polytheism, paganism, Neo-Paganism, and Idol worship, and Crass Capitalism using the United Nations as a channel.
The Vatican is the Seat of the former Roman Government now metamorphosed into the SEAT of Peter run by the Romulus priesthood.
The Presidency is the Seat of Augustus Caesar given to Peter. Ouside the Roman Imperial Jurisdiction, hostile elements from the enlightenment renamed it Presidency. Inside the Roman world, we call it the SEAT OF PETER, or the Seat of Mohammad in Orient.
Are the United Nations Resolutions as good as Canonical Laws, that's to say, Laws which are in line with the Covenant mediated by Christ?
No, the United Nations resolutions are Satanic Laws which set themselves in the way of God's kingdom on earth.
How do men advance God's kingdom?
Men advance God's kingdom by translating Christ's will compiled in the New Testament into the Law and the Moral foundation of their land.
As soon as the secret quota of good souls is reached, JESUS will come back to re-people the world with a new kind of humanity. PURIFY YOURSELF. You have every mean now at your disposal in Christ If you want to be among the lucky ones.
----------
Africa-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A stick to your values through God's wise Laws. Seek NO other God but JESUS.
In the event of war, confer with Russia to wipe out the Sodomites nations.
God will give you victories.
To Hell with the International Re-Colonization Court at the Hague. Freedom for President Laurent Gbagbo Now.
Different churches have different versions.
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2017-02-15 18:54:36 UTC
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Different churches have different versions.
Sir, need I to remind you that JESUS founded only ONE Church, NOT MANY.....
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2017-02-15 19:07:38 UTC
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Different churches have different versions.
Sir, need I to remind you that JESUS founded only ONE Church, NOT MANY.....
Jesus never founded a church. He never renounced Judaism. From the Book of Matthew:"I come not to abolish the law of the prophets, but to fulfill it."
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2017-02-15 23:31:28 UTC
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Different churches have different versions.
Sir, need I to remind you that JESUS founded only ONE Church, NOT MANY.....
Jesus never founded a church. He never renounced Judaism. From the Book of Matthew:"I come not to abolish the law of the prophets, but to fulfill it."
So where did you get your many 'churches' idea, then?
The Church is the Authority which ratified the 10 Commandments for the Gentiles. The Law was then fulfilled.
So again Jesus might not have renounced Judaism but as the Messiah/Christ He mediated a New Covenant which His Church implemented, NOT Churches...
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Different churches have different versions.
Sir, need I to remind you that JESUS founded only ONE Church, NOT MANY.....
Jesus never founded a church. He never renounced Judaism. From the Book of Matthew:"I come not to abolish the law of the prophets, but to fulfill it."
So where did you get your many 'churches' idea, then?
The Church is the Authority which ratified the 10 Commandments for the Gentiles. The Law was then fulfilled.
So again Jesus might not have renounced Judaism but as the Messiah/Christ He mediated a New Covenant which His Church implemented, NOT Churches...
Moron, the church is the authority of cons....and this world has suffered immensely.
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Moron, the church is the authority of cons....and this world has suffered immensely.
This world too benefited from the benevolent good will of the Church. The whole story has never been told.
To believe otherwise is to have started your history class around the 17th century.
But for those you know what Indian cast system looks like and how irrational it is to worship cows or one million gods, and how a similar system flourished under the rule of the Caesars in the first century, the Church did a wonderful job by cleaning up the mess as it transitioned the empire from paganism into Monotheism.
Of course some in the Church were greedy, but you should expect this in human affair: Universalism versus Centralism is the greed I have in mind.
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Jesus never founded a church.
17 Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah! For this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by My Father in heaven.
18 And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My CHURCH, and the gates of Hades will not prevail against it. Mathew 16:17-18

There you have it from the book you claim Jews are NOT supposed to read. So how dare you to argue with the one who is not constrained by any restriction?
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Jesus never founded a church.
17 Jesus replied,
Tales from your book of lies is no more evidence than comic books are for
Superman.

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Jesus never founded a church.
17 Jesus replied,
Tales from your book of lies is no more evidence than comic books are for
Superman.
But, but, but HIS bullshit is printed on nicer paper!
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Jesus never founded a church.
17 Jesus replied,
Tales from your book of lies is no more evidence than comic books are
for Superman.
But, but, but HIS bullshit is printed on nicer paper!
Yep. It's smoother on the arse.
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Never any great loss.
The 'Holy Bile' would be great, if it were lost.
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Jesus never founded a church.
17 Jesus replied,
Tales from your book of lies is no more evidence than comic books are
for Superman.
But, but, but HIS bullshit is printed on nicer paper!
Yep. It's smoother on the arse.
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<snip biblebabble>
Never any great loss.
The 'Holy Bile' would be great, if it were lost.
If it were lost, our God would drop another copy from heaven where the original is kept.
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Different churches have different versions.
Sir, need I to remind you that JESUS founded only ONE Church, NOT MANY.....
And which of the thousands of churches do you claim is the only one?
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Different churches have different versions.
Sir, need I to remind you that JESUS founded only ONE Church, NOT MANY.....
And which of the thousands of churches do you claim is the only one?
Did you NOT claim legal reasoning competency? And you can't figure it out?
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Different churches have different versions.
Sir, need I to remind you that JESUS founded only ONE Church, NOT MANY.....
And which of the thousands of churches do you claim is the only one?
<snippage of non-answer>

Try again and this time answer the question.
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The Bible or the atheists from the West?????
The person who decides how to define the religion is the founder himself, obviously.
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The Bible or the atheists from the West?????
The person who decides how to define the religion is the founder himself, obviously.
Or the Bible which records the life of the founder.
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The Bible or the atheists from the West?????
Jesus Christ defined Christianity.
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Christianity is the belief that JESUS is Christ, that is to say, the Jewish Messiah. Nothing about Son Of God.
Jesus **is** God.
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What about the belief that JESUS is the Son Of God????
Catholicism or Sonism.....
Islam is the belief that JESUS is the Christ foretold in the Law of Moses, therefore believers must submit not only to the TEN Commandments, but to the rest of the Civil and criminal codes.
Is America a Christian nation?
No, because the founding Fathers of the American government failed to ratify the 10 Commandment, and for the simple reason that the First Amendment to their Constitution, the supreme Law of the land, seeks to override the First Commandment.
Is America an ANTICHRIST nation?
Yes, America is an ANTICHRIST nation as its Laws rejected the Covenant mediated by Christ and seeks to universalize Polytheism, paganism, Neo-Paganism, and Idol worship, and Crass Capitalism using the United Nations as a channel.
No, we theists outnumber you atheist wannabe's 32:1.
We Christian's outnumber you atheists over 11:1.
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The Vatican is the Seat of the former Roman Government now metamorphosed into the SEAT of Peter run by the Romulus priesthood.
Nope. Vatican City is a sovereign nation..
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The Presidency is the Seat of Augustus Caesar given to Peter.
Nope. Vatican City is not in Rome.

Outside the Roman Imperial Jurisdiction, hostile elements from the
enlightenment renamed it Presidency. Inside the Roman world, we call it the SEAT
OF PETER, or the Seat of Mohammad in Orient.
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Are the United Nations Resolutions as good as Canonical Laws, that's to say, Laws which are in line with the Covenant mediated by Christ?
No, the United Nations resolutions are Satanic Laws which set themselves in the way of God's kingdom on earth.
How do men advance God's kingdom?
Men advance God's kingdom by translating Christ's will compiled in the New Testament into the Law and the Moral foundation of their land.
As soon as the secret quota of good souls is reached, JESUS will come back to re-people the world with a new kind of humanity. PURIFY YOURSELF. You have every mean now at your disposal in Christ If you want to be among the lucky ones.
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In the event of war, confer with Russia to wipe out the Sodomites nations.
God will give you victories.
To Hell with the International Re-Colonization Court at the Hague. Freedom for President Laurent Gbagbo Now.
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The Bible or the atheists from the West?????
Jesus Christ defined Christianity.
He didn't mention the word CHRISTIANITY, Saint Paul didn't either which proves that the label- CHRISTIAN- is an artificial one.
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The Bible or the atheists from the West?????
Jesus Christ defined Christianity.
He didn't mention the word CHRISTIANITY, Saint Paul didn't either which proves that the label- CHRISTIAN- is an artificial one.
CHRIST defined CHRIST_ianity.

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The Bible or the atheists from the West?????
Jesus Christ defined Christianity.
He didn't mention the word CHRISTIANITY, Saint Paul didn't either which proves that the label- CHRISTIAN- is an artificial one.
CHRIST defined CHRIST_ianity.
Yet He didn't mention the word CHRITIAN which was first used in Antioch not in Jerusalem. Nor did he mention the word TRINITY.
However If one must go by what you said we all would have to admit that according to the Bible Islam deserves the label CHRISTIAN.
“(And mention) when the angels said, ‘O Mary, indeed God gives you the good news of a word from Him, whose name will be the MESSIAH/CHRIST Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honor in this world and in the Hereafter, and of those who are near to God.’ ‘He will speak to the people in the cradle, and in old age, and he will be of the righteous.’ Qur'an 3:45-
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The Bible or the atheists from the West?????
Jesus Christ defined Christianity.
He didn't mention the word CHRISTIANITY, Saint Paul didn't either which proves that the label- CHRISTIAN- is an artificial one.
CHRIST defined CHRIST_ianity.
Yet He didn't mention the word CHRITIAN which was first used in Antioch not in Jerusalem. Nor did he mention the word TRINITY.
But the defined it.
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However If one must go by what you said we all would have to admit that according to the Bible Islam deserves the label CHRISTIAN.
No, they headed out in yet another direction.
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“(And mention) when the angels said, ‘O Mary, indeed God gives you the good news of a word from Him,
whose name will be the MESSIAH/CHRIST Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honor in
this world and in the Hereafter, and of those who are near to God.’ ‘He will
speak to the people in the cradle, and in old age, and he will be of the
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righteous.’ Qur'an 3:45-
They think Jesus was a wise man.

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Yet He didn't mention the word CHRITIAN which was first used in Antioch not in Jerusalem. Nor did he mention the word TRINITY.
But the defined it.
You can't define something you didn't mention unless you want to open up a debate.
Christianity was defined by the Pagans in Antioch as reported in the book of the Acts of the Apostles. In Antioch the word Christian was first used.
As this included Circumcised and uncircumcised, I maintain that the Muslims are Christians according to the Bible.
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Yet He didn't mention the word CHRITIAN which was first used in Antioch not in Jerusalem. Nor did he mention the word TRINITY.
But the defined it.
You can't define something you didn't mention unless you want to open up a debate.
Christianity was defined by the Pagans in Antioch as reported in the book of the Acts of the Apostles. In Antioch the word Christian was first used.
That just reflects that you don't know what you're talking about.

For starters, we are talking about "the messiah, the anointed", "the christ"
since 33AD. Now the people of Antioch may have referred to the "followers of
the anointed/christ" first. But that's a different and of little value issue.

So his title as "the anointed" goes back to 33AD.
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As this included Circumcised and uncircumcised, I maintain that the Muslims are Christians according to the Bible.
Nope, the Christian is referred to as the "circumcised of the heart", and the
for sure don't include no muslims.

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However If one must go by what you said we all would have to admit that according to the Bible Islam deserves the label CHRISTIAN.
No, they headed out in yet another direction.
Yes, but in accordance with their own culture and yet we are still within the boundary of the Ten Commandments because Jesus is the Messiah in Islam.
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“(And mention) when the angels said, ‘O Mary, indeed God gives you the good news of a word from Him,
whose name will be the MESSIAH/CHRIST Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honor in
this world and in the Hereafter, and of those who are near to God.’ ‘He will
speak to the people in the cradle, and in old age, and he will be of the
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righteous.’ Qur'an 3:45-
They think Jesus was a wise man.
Cite an Authority such as the Qur'an, please.
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However If one must go by what you said we all would have to admit that according to the Bible Islam deserves the label CHRISTIAN.
No, they headed out in yet another direction.
Yes, but in accordance with their own culture and yet we are still within the boundary of the Ten Commandments because Jesus is the Messiah in Islam.
If he is, they picked it form the Jews and Christians 600 years later.
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“(And mention) when the angels said, ‘O Mary, indeed God gives you the good news of a word from Him,
whose name will be the MESSIAH/CHRIST Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honor in
this world and in the Hereafter, and of those who are near to God.’ ‘He will
speak to the people in the cradle, and in old age, and he will be of the
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righteous.’ Qur'an 3:45-
They think Jesus was a wise man.
Cite an Authority such as the Qur'an, please.
Just something I heard. I'm not a muslim.
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The Bible or the atheists from the West?????
Jesus Christ defined Christianity.
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Christianity is the belief that JESUS is Christ, that is to say, the Jewish Messiah. Nothing about Son Of God.
Jesus **is** God.
But He didn't mediate the Covenant as God but as human being who could shed His own blood to replace the blood of bulls and cows that Moses prescribed. God is spirit.
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No, we theists outnumber you atheist wannabe's 32:1.
We Christian's outnumber you atheists over 11:1.
Sorry, but number doesn't matter here. The ratification of the 10 Commandments tells you whether a nation is Christian or not. At least this definition goes according to the Scriptures but I guess you are not really versed in the Bible.
America through the first Amendment rejected the first Commandments which makes its Laws into some pagan Laws.
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The Vatican is the Seat of the former Roman Government now metamorphosed into the SEAT of Peter run by the Romulus priesthood.
Nope. Vatican City is a sovereign nation..
The Roman Government is Foreign nation, Sir...
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The Presidency is the Seat of Augustus Caesar given to Peter.
Nope. Vatican City is not in Rome.
Well.... You can't be serious. Just not so good at Geography?
Sir, Vatican City is inside the City of Rome... but If you still dispute this you are quite welcome to tell us its location in Europe.
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Outside the Roman Imperial Jurisdiction, hostile elements from the
enlightenment renamed it Presidency. Inside the Roman world, we call it the SEAT
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The Bible or the atheists from the West?????
Jesus Christ defined Christianity.
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Christianity is the belief that JESUS is Christ, that is to say, the Jewish Messiah. Nothing about Son Of God.
Jesus **is** God.
But He didn't mediate the Covenant as God but as human being who could shed His own blood to replace the blood of bulls and cows that Moses prescribed. God is spirit.
There is no "mediate". God became flesh in the person of Jesus Christ in order
to teach flesh the new way of love replacing laws of the Torah. What flesh
would even try to follow divinity?
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No, we theists outnumber you atheist wannabe's 32:1.
We Christian's outnumber you atheists over 11:1.
Sorry, but number doesn't matter here.
just what a minority you are.
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The ratification of the 10 Commandments tells you whether a nation is Christian or not.
The 10 commandments are for mankind, not nation.
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At least this definition goes according to the Scriptures but I guess you are not really versed in the Bible.
As a Roman Catholic, much more than you are.
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America through the first Amendment rejected the first Commandments which makes its Laws into some pagan Laws.
That doesn't even make sense.
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The Vatican is the Seat of the former Roman Government now metamorphosed into the SEAT of Peter run by the Romulus priesthood.
Nope. Vatican City is a sovereign nation..
The Roman Government is Foreign nation, Sir...
And not Vatican City.
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The Presidency is the Seat of Augustus Caesar given to Peter.
Nope. Vatican City is not in Rome.
Well.... You can't be serious. Just not so good at Geography?
Of course I am.
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Sir, Vatican City is inside the City of Rome... but If you still dispute this you are quite welcome to tell us its location in Europe.
I told you. Vatican City is a sovereign nation.


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There is no "mediate". God became flesh in the person of Jesus Christ in order
to teach flesh the new way of love replacing laws of the Torah. What flesh
would even try to follow divinity?
You don't know you're talking about so I am not going to follow you in your VOODOO interpretation of Christianity.
If the Scriptures says the blood of Jesus was the blood of a New Covenant, who are you to state otherwise. ARE YOU A DEMON or you just don't know what's at stake?
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There is no "mediate". God became flesh in the person of Jesus Christ in order
to teach flesh the new way of love replacing laws of the Torah. What flesh
would even try to follow divinity?
You don't know you're talking about so I am not going to follow you in your VOODOO interpretation of Christianity.
I'm not really worried about what a muslim thinks he knows about Christianity.
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If the Scriptures says the blood of Jesus was the blood of a New Covenant, who are you to state otherwise. ARE YOU A DEMON or you just don't know what's at stake?
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There is no "mediate". God became flesh in the person of Jesus Christ in order
to teach flesh the new way of love replacing laws of the Torah. What flesh
would even try to follow divinity?
You don't know you're talking about so I am not going to follow you in your VOODOO interpretation of Christianity.
I'm not really worried about what a muslim thinks he knows about Christianity.
Islam is a Euphemism for Christianity, the pristine Christianity of the Apostles time which was later corrupted by Trinitarian dogmas and Sacramental Laws in Catholicism instead of submission to the true Law of God. In other words Peter was circumcised under Moses custom and was not Trinitarian.
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If the Scriptures says the blood of Jesus was the blood of a New Covenant, who are you to state otherwise. ARE YOU A DEMON or you just don't know what's at stake?
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There is no "mediate". God became flesh in the person of Jesus Christ in order
to teach flesh the new way of love replacing laws of the Torah. What flesh
would even try to follow divinity?
You don't know you're talking about so I am not going to follow you in your VOODOO interpretation of Christianity.
I'm not really worried about what a muslim thinks he knows about Christianity.
Islam is a Euphemism for Christianity, the pristine Christianity of the Apostles time
< which was later corrupted by Trinitarian dogmas and Sacramental Laws in Catholicism instead
of submission to the true Law of God. In other words Peter was circumcised under Moses custom and was not Trinitarian.
Islam declares itself "SUBMISSIVE to God" and Christians "FAMILY of God".

Putting it simple, we are all either Jews or gentiles or pagans until we are
baptized as Christians.

Most Christians have been circumcised, but not as Jews.

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Islam is a Euphemism for Christianity, the pristine Christianity of the Apostles time
< which was later corrupted by Trinitarian dogmas and Sacramental Laws in Catholicism instead
of submission to the true Law of God. In other words Peter was circumcised under Moses custom and was not Trinitarian.
Islam declares itself "SUBMISSIVE to God" and Christians "FAMILY of God".
Submissive to the Law given by God at Sinai in reaction to the sacraments invented by the popes which were being universalize. So Islam stopped the theological trickery.
So again in view of what the Bible says, your Christianity versus Islam makes no sense. If you really had a clear understanding of the Biblical exegesis Islam versus Trinitarian Catholicism would have been proper.
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Putting it simple, we are all either Jews or gentiles or pagans until we are
baptized as Christians.
But Circumcision came before baptism. Jesus was circumcised the 8th day according to the customs of Moses which Islam practices to these days.
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Most Christians have been circumcised, but not as Jews.
If you are ritually baptized then you ritually circumcised yourself, it is superfluous because Circumcision is the equivalent of baptism....
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just what a minority you are.
If you think your Constitution trumps the Bible, then you are not a Christian.
Christ must have the last word.
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The ratification of the 10 Commandments tells you whether a nation is Christian or not.
The 10 commandments are for mankind, not nation.
Even so, nations are made of mankind. That is why you adhere to the Ten Commandments by stating that Jesus is the Son Of God. The Roman empire was the nation where this was first ratified. Yet Islam ratified the 10 Commandments while rejecting the reference "Son Of God" because eacch nation has its own cultural specificity.
So yes, the Decalogue is for mankind but its application befell on each nation.
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At least this definition goes according to the Scriptures but I guess you are not really versed in the Bible.
As a Roman Catholic, much more than you are.
I was not talking here about the Roman Catholic Catechism. You have no grasp on the Scriptures I said.
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America through the first Amendment rejected the first Commandments which makes its Laws into some pagan Laws.
That doesn't even make sense.
It doesn't make sense to you because you didn't know that the First Amendment in the American Constitution repeals the First Commandment.
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I told you. Vatican City is a sovereign nation.
Vatican City is the Seat of the Roman Government which we call euphemistically the Church.
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just what a minority you are.
If you think your Constitution trumps the Bible, then you are not a Christian.
Christ must have the last word.
Two different issues.
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The ratification of the 10 Commandments tells you whether a nation is Christian or not.
The 10 commandments are for mankind, not nation.
Even so, nations are made of mankind. That is why you adhere to the Ten Commandments by stating that Jesus is the Son Of God. The Roman empire was the nation where this was first ratified. Yet Islam ratified the 10 Commandments while rejecting the reference "Son Of God" because eacch nation has its own cultural specificity.
So yes, the Decalogue is for mankind but its application befell on each nation.
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At least this definition goes according to the Scriptures but I guess you are not really versed in the Bible.
As a Roman Catholic, much more than you are.
I was not talking here about the Roman Catholic Catechism. You have no grasp on the Scriptures I said.
The Catholic Church, the Church founded by Jesus Christ, prepared the Catechism
as a spiritual discussion.
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America through the first Amendment rejected the first Commandments which makes its Laws into some pagan Laws.
That doesn't even make sense.
It doesn't make sense to you because you didn't know that the First Amendment in the American Constitution repeals the First Commandment.
Who threw out the first pitch?
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I told you. Vatican City is a sovereign nation.
Vatican City is the Seat of the Roman Government which we call euphemistically the Church.
Not in the Christian Church. Vatican City and the seat of the Roman government
are two different things.

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just what a minority you are.
If you think your Constitution trumps the Bible, then you are not a Christian.
Christ must have the last word.
Two different issues.
Probably so because the Bishops were appointed to filter the Roman Constitution and bring it in line with Monotheism just as the New Covenant requested. Hence the term CANONICAL to mean in line with the Covenant or the Law of God.
The priests were appointed to make sacrifice in the temple now the Church. I was not the one who blended the two together. So you're right about that. Right to say two different issues blended in one.
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The ratification of the 10 Commandments tells you whether a nation is Christian or not.
The 10 commandments are for mankind, not nation.
Even so, nations are made of mankind. That is why you adhere to the Ten Commandments by stating that Jesus is the Son Of God. The Roman empire was the nation where this was first ratified. Yet Islam ratified the 10 Commandments while rejecting the reference "Son Of God" because eacch nation has its own cultural specificity.
So yes, the Decalogue is for mankind but its application befell on each nation.
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At least this definition goes according to the Scriptures but I guess you are not really versed in the Bible.
As a Roman Catholic, much more than you are.
I was not talking here about the Roman Catholic Catechism. You have no grasp on the Scriptures I said.
The Catholic Church, the Church founded by Jesus Christ, prepared the Catechism as a spiritual discussion.
It's misleading to say Jesus founded the Catholic Church, rather the believers in the Roman Empire brought the Roman Temple, the fourth branch of the Roman government were sacrifice was made in line with the New Covenant mediated by Jesus.
To do so requires the use of Jesus words at the last super to pump out the substance and mystery of the Jewish Temple into the pagan temple to make it Monotheistic, hence the Church. In other word pagan ratified the 10 Commandments after Israel rejected its Messiah.

"Marc Anthony" a book by Ernest Renan could help you comprehend the metamorphisis of the Empire from paganism into Catholicism.
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America through the first Amendment rejected the first Commandments which makes its Laws into some pagan Laws.
That doesn't even make sense.
It doesn't make sense to you because you didn't know that the First Amendment in the American Constitution repeals the First Commandment.
Who threw out the first pitch?
It shouldn't matter either. One thing remains sure. The American Constitution is a pagan Law. It's a return to paganism so you are left to pick and choose which Law you want to obey
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I told you. Vatican City is a sovereign nation.
Vatican City is the Seat of the Roman Government which we call euphemistically the Church.
Not in the Christian Church. Vatican City and the seat of the Roman government
are two different things.
Vatican City is the SEAT OF THE ROMAN government with the Church formerly the Roman Temple being the visible branch. This is how you know Christ seized the Empire.
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just what a minority you are.
If you think your Constitution trumps the Bible, then you are not a Christian.
Christ must have the last word.
Two different issues.
Probably so because the Bishops were appointed to filter the Roman Constitution
The Christian bishops were appointed to guide the Christian Church.
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nd bring it in line with Monotheism just as the New Covenant requested. Hence the term CANONICAL to mean in line with the Covenant or the Law of God.
The priests were appointed to make sacrifice in the temple now the Church. I was not the one who blended the two together. So you're right about that. Right to say two different issues blended in one.
Nah, you all confused over the Levi priests.
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The Catholic Church, the Church founded by Jesus Christ, prepared the Catechism as a spiritual discussion.
It's misleading to say Jesus founded the Catholic Church
Founding the Catholic Church is exactly what he did, and gave his new Church on
earth the following characteristics:

MASS:
Do this in memory of me - Mat 26:26-29, Mark 14:22-26, Luke 22:14-20,
1Cor 11:23-25 (11-34).

SACRAMENTS:
1. Baptism - John 3:5-6, Mat 28:19, Hebrew 2:14-15
2. Holy Eucharist -Mat 26:26-29, Mark 14:22-26, Luke 22:14-20,
1Cor 11:23-25 (11-34).
3. Confession - John 20:22-23, 2 Cor 5:18-19, Mat 9:2-8
4. Matrimony - Mat 19:4-6, Mark 10:5-9, Ephesians 5:31
5. Confirmation - Ephesians 1:13-14, Acts 8:14-17, Acts 19:5-6,
6. Holy Orders - Acts 13:3 & 14:23, John 20:22, 1 & 2 Tim
7. Anointing of the Sick - Mark 6:12-13, John 5:14

PAPACY:
Mat 16:13-19 (Pope), Mat 28:16-20 (Teaching), Eph 2:19-20 (Base)

PURGATORY:
1 Cor 3:10-15

FAITH (without deeds is dead faith):
Mat 25:31-46, James 2:26
Feed the hungry.
Clothe the naked.
Give drink to the thirsty.
Visit the imprisoned.

Heal the sick.
Cast out demons.


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Probably so because the Bishops were appointed to filter the Roman Constitution
The Christian bishops were appointed to guide the Christian Church.
The role of the Bishops was to bring the pagan Law in line with Monotheism and the Moral Law of Moses as expounded by Saint Paul.
Jesus said nothing about bishops. Appointing bishops was Saint Paul glorious initiative as you see in his epistles to the Roman and the Galatians. And later in the Empire, each bishopric took the 'contour' of a provincial governorate.
So again the believers were still guided through legitimate institutions which worked like a state in the Roman state.
As for the term Church you will find that Saint Paul used it differently as originally used by the Lord Himself with three level of interpretation:
First as the whole community of believers as opposed to pagans
Second as the body of legislators.
Third as the New and regenerated Roman Empire
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Nah, you all confused over the Levi priests.
The Romulus priesthood was the fourth branch of the Roman government for the Roman temple service. Levi priesthood ended when the Jewish temple as demolished
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The Catholic Church, the Church founded by Jesus Christ, prepared the Catechism as a spiritual discussion.
It's misleading to say Jesus founded the Catholic Church
Do this in memory of me - Mat 26:26-29, Mark 14:22-26, Luke 22:14-20,
1Cor 11:23-25 (11-34).
1. Baptism - John 3:5-6, Mat 28:19, Hebrew 2:14-15
2. Holy Eucharist -Mat 26:26-29, Mark 14:22-26, Luke 22:14-20,
1Cor 11:23-25 (11-34).
3. Confession - John 20:22-23, 2 Cor 5:18-19, Mat 9:2-8
4. Matrimony - Mat 19:4-6, Mark 10:5-9, Ephesians 5:31
5. Confirmation - Ephesians 1:13-14, Acts 8:14-17, Acts 19:5-6,
6. Holy Orders - Acts 13:3 & 14:23, John 20:22, 1 & 2 Tim
7. Anointing of the Sick - Mark 6:12-13, John 5:14
Mat 16:13-19 (Pope), Mat 28:16-20 (Teaching), Eph 2:19-20 (Base)
1 Cor 3:10-15
Mat 25:31-46, James 2:26
Feed the hungry.
Clothe the naked.
Give drink to the thirsty.
Visit the imprisoned.
Heal the sick.
Cast out demons.
Well, it is in error because it is based on the assumption that the Jews were expecting the Son Of God instead of the Messiah. The reason the trick works on you is because you believe that Moses foretold a Son for God which is nonsense in regard to the 10 Commandments: "Hear O Israel, Eternal our God, Eternal is One."
So If the debates between Jesus and the Pharisees were not about Son Of God but about Messiah, the King for Israel, our current Gospels are not the Original copies and any dogma based on them are irrelevant. So is TRINITY.
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Nope. Vatican City is a sovereign nation..
The Roman Government is Foreign nation, Sir...
And not Vatican City.
Sir, Vatican City is the SEAT OF THE ROMAN Government disguised now as the Church.
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Nope. Vatican City is a sovereign nation..
The Roman Government is Foreign nation, Sir...
And not Vatican City.
Sir, Vatican City is the SEAT OF THE ROMAN Government disguised now as the Church.
Yada, yada, yada.

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Nope. Vatican City is a sovereign nation..
The Roman Government is Foreign nation, Sir...
And not Vatican City.
Sir, Vatican City is the SEAT OF THE ROMAN Government disguised now as the Church.
Yada, yada, yada.
You cannot always fool people.
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Nope. Vatican City is a sovereign nation..
The Roman Government is Foreign nation, Sir...
And not Vatican City.
Sir, Vatican City is the SEAT OF THE ROMAN Government disguised now as the Church.
Yada, yada, yada.
You cannot always fool people.
No correlation between the Vatican and the Roman Government.

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Nope. Vatican City is a sovereign nation..
The Roman Government is Foreign nation, Sir...
And not Vatican City.
Sir, Vatican City is the SEAT OF THE ROMAN Government disguised now as the Church.
Yada, yada, yada.
You cannot always fool people.
No correlation between the Vatican and the Roman Government.
The Vatican City is the seat of the Roman government. And the epistles in the Bible already passed the muster of the 10 Commandments so the popes didn't have to apply the 10 Commandments a second time which gives us TRINITY.
Trying to harmonize the Son Of God reference in the epistles of the Bible and the Jewish Messiah of the Gospels created too much confusion:
Universalism shouldn't mean Centralism.
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Christianity is the belief that JESUS is [a magical 3rd head of god]...

Islam is the belief that JESUS is [a prophet and not a god]
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Is America an ANTICHRIST nation?
No, America is not for or against any religion. America allows
Christians to go to the church of their own choosing, fund
and operate their churches tax-free, pray constantly (but not
over public address systems at public events), carry a Bible
at all times, send their children to religious schools, and
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Christianity is the belief that JESUS is [a magical 3rd head of god]...
And you think this is academically SOUND? It's not consistent with any text. At least you should give the textual basis which supports your view. This is how Academics proceed otherwise it is your own opinion.
To hear this kind of platitude from atheists who usually brag about their intellectual disposition is disheartening.
To sum it up Christianity is the belief that JESUS is Christ/Messiah
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Islam is the belief that JESUS is [a prophet and not a god]
But He is first the Messiah in Islam, and the nature of the Messiah/Christ is a Prophet foretold in the Torah of Moses which undermines atheists belief that Jesus is a myth:
"I will send you the Messiah/Christ, a Prophet like Moses, Him you must listen....." Deut. 18:15-18
So as you see it looks like we are in the Christological debate and someone is trying to assert his view. But I doubt you ever heard about Christology, the debate about the nature of Christ.

And Oh, don't also forget ALLEGORY and this Islamic allegory, God the creator put on flesh as Messiah/Christ to take the kingdoms from the pagan rulers and give them to poor, orphans, and slaves. In other word in Islam JESUS is God. Over your empty head
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Is America an ANTICHRIST nation?
No, America is not for or against any religion. America allows
Christians to go to the church of their own choosing, fund
and operate their churches tax-free, pray constantly (but not
over public address systems at public events), carry a Bible
at all times, send their children to religious schools, and
to sacrifice goats in their own backyards.
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Christianity is the belief that JESUS is [a magical 3rd head of god]...
And you think this is academically SOUND? It's not consistent with any text. At least you should give the textual basis which supports your view. This is how Academics proceed otherwise it is your own opinion.
To hear this kind of platitude from atheists who usually brag about their intellectual disposition is disheartening.
To sum it up Christianity is the belief that JESUS is Christ/Messiah
And God became flesh to bring the new way to mankind.

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And God became flesh to bring the new way to mankind.
Exactly. And this is precisely my point. Now we can say Jesus is the Son Of God without worrying about violating the 10 Commandments of Moses. Why? Because Jesus is the God creator. Thanks Incarnation. Trinity double down the 10 Commandments.
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And God became flesh to bring the new way to mankind.
Exactly. And this is precisely my point. Now we can say Jesus is the Son Of God without worrying about violating the 10 Commandments of Moses.
The 10 commandments come from God, not moses.


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And God became flesh to bring the new way to mankind.
Exactly. And this is precisely my point. Now we can say Jesus is the Son Of God without worrying about violating the 10 Commandments of Moses.
The 10 commandments come from God, not moses.
True. The whole Torah as well comes from God but Hebrews, even Jesus Himself referred to it as the book of Moses. Because it had Moses as the Mediator of the first Covenant. Remember how Moses sprinkled it with blood of bull....in front of the Hebrews
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And God became flesh to bring the new way to mankind.
Exactly. And this is precisely my point. Now we can say Jesus is the Son Of God without worrying about violating the 10 Commandments of Moses.
The 10 commandments come from God, not moses.
True. The whole Torah as well comes from God but Hebrews, even Jesus Himself referred to it
as the book of Moses. Because it had Moses as the Mediator of the first Covenant. Remember how Moses sprinkled it with blood of bull....in front of the Hebrews
No, but could be.

Nobody knows who the author of Hebrews is.

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as the book of Moses. Because it had Moses as the Mediator of the first Covenant. Remember how Moses sprinkled it with blood of bull....in front of the Hebrews
No, but could be. True. The whole Torah as well comes from God, but even the Hebrew
Nobody knows who the author of Hebrews is.
Correction:
I meant to write, "True. The whole Torah as well comes from God, but the Hebrews and even Jesus Himself referred to it as the books of Moses."
I was not talking about the epistle to the Hebrews.
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Christianity is the belief that JESUS is [a magical 3rd head of god]...
And you think this is academically SOUND? It's not consistent
with any text. At least you should give the textual basis which
supports your view.
Why should I bother? It's your crazy religion. I don't care what
silly little fine points you want to make about it. The broad
facts are that most Christians believe that Jesus is one part of
a three-part godhead. Non-trinitarians quibble about this and
are a small minority of Christians. Muslims believe that Jesus
was an important prophet, but wholly a man.
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Please cite....
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Please cite....
Hmm, that's twice today.

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Please cite....
Hmm, that's twice today.
The Bible is replete with references to Jesus as Prophet. We find it in the mouth of Peter addressing the crowd in the Acts of the Apostles. We find it in the mouth of the woman at the well in John. Even the Old Testament's Christ is the Great Prophet, as it is with the Nicene Creed where Jesus put on flesh in the Virgin Mary and became man. What's wrong with the man being the GREAT PROPHET?
The other poster didn't cite because he knew what I was going to ask him:
We all know that Islam says Jesus is a Prophet, now we want to know what is meant by that because you need to remind yourself that Muhammad is a euphemism for Messiah/Christ.
My point? The original gospels were not the story about the "Son Of God" as copyists made them out to be, but the story about the Jewish Messiah foretold by Moses in the Torah, who was rejected by His own people.
Unless you understand that,TRINITY will play tricks on your mind.
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Hmm, that's twice today.
The Bible is replete with references to Jesus as Prophet. We find it in the mouth of Peter
addressing the crowd in the Acts of the Apostles. We find it in the mouth of the woman
at the well in John. Even the Old Testament's Christ is the Great Prophet, as it is with the
Nicene Creed where Jesus put on flesh in the Virgin Mary and became man. What's wrong
with the man being the GREAT PROPHET?
Well, it wasn't until after the cross that man came to understand the truth of
Jesus as God/Son of God. Thus "prophet" was the most they could consider at the
time.
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We all know that Islam says Jesus is a Prophet, now we want to know what is
meant by that because you need to remind yourself that Muhammad is a euphemism for Messiah/Christ.
To this day, the Jews and the Muslims (I gather) still think the messiah is yet
to come.
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My point? The original gospels were not the story about the "Son Of God" as copyists
made them out to be, but the story about the Jewish Messiah foretold by Moses in the
Torah, who was rejected by His own people. Unless you understand that,TRINITY
will play tricks on your mind.
Actually "SON of God" is not an issue.

Romans 8:14New International Version (NIV)
14 For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God.

As far as trinity is concerned, various scripture point in that direction:

John 1:1-2New International Version (NIV)
The Word Became Flesh
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was
God. 2 He was with God in the beginning.

And when Jesus ascended to the Father, he gave us God the Holy Spirit.

John 16:12-15New International Version (NIV)
12 “I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. 13 But when he,
the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not
speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is
yet to come. 14 He will glorify me because it is from me that he will receive
what he will make known to you. 15 All that belongs to the Father is mine. That
is why I said the Spirit will receive from me what he will make known to you.”

Thus we have the Triune Godhead.


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Why should I bother? It's your crazy religion. I don't care what
silly little fine points you want to make about it. The broad
facts are that most Christians believe that Jesus is one part of
a three-part godhead. Non-trinitarians quibble about this and
are a small minority of Christians. Muslims believe that Jesus
was an important prophet, but wholly a man.
Even the Trinitarians believe that Jesus put on flesh and became man-The Nicene Creed-
Why do you that this isn't consistent with the Islamic view?
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Why should I bother? It's your crazy religion. I don't care what
silly little fine points you want to make about it. The broad
facts are that most Christians believe that Jesus is one part of
a three-part godhead. Non-trinitarians quibble about this and
are a small minority of Christians. Muslims believe that Jesus
was an important prophet, but wholly a man.
Even the Trinitarians believe that Jesus put on flesh and became man-The Nicene Creed-
Why do you that this isn't consistent with the Islamic view?
Islam doesn't beleive that he was son of God...
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Why should I bother? It's your crazy religion. I don't care what
silly little fine points you want to make about it. The broad
facts are that most Christians believe that Jesus is one part of
a three-part godhead. Non-trinitarians quibble about this and
are a small minority of Christians. Muslims believe that Jesus
was an important prophet, but wholly a man.
Even the Trinitarians believe that Jesus put on flesh and became man-The Nicene Creed-
Why do you that this isn't consistent with the Islamic view?
Islam doesn't beleive that he was son of God...
Islam doesn't have to, otherwise the allegory will be impaired and meaningless. The fact that the Qur'an views Him as the Messiah, the Spirit of God is as important as viewing as Son Of God.
Remember that Mohammad is a euphemism for Messiah now
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Christianity is the belief that JESUS is [a magical 3rd head of god]...
And you think this is academically SOUND? It's not consistent
with any text. At least you should give the textual basis which
supports your view.
Why should I bother? It's your crazy religion. I don't care what
silly little fine points you want to make about it. The broad
facts are that most Christians believe that Jesus is one part of
a three-part godhead. Non-trinitarians quibble about this and
are a small minority of Christians. Muslims believe that Jesus
was an important prophet, but wholly a man.
...all of this confusion, disagreement, contradiction and ambiguity
within the religious communities is a strong indication that
Jesus never existed.
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Christianity is the belief that JESUS is [a magical 3rd head of god]...
And you think this is academically SOUND? It's not consistent
with any text. At least you should give the textual basis which
supports your view.
Why should I bother? It's your crazy religion. I don't care what
silly little fine points you want to make about it. The broad
facts are that most Christians believe that Jesus is one part of
a three-part godhead. Non-trinitarians quibble about this and
are a small minority of Christians. Muslims believe that Jesus
was an important prophet, but wholly a man.
...all of this confusion, disagreement, contradiction and ambiguity
within the religious communities is a strong indication that
Jesus never existed.
Out of interest, what brought you to that conclusion?

For comparison, we are generally agreed that Karl Marx existed, and his
political philosophy is as prone to spawning divergent offshoots as
Christianity.

In religion, Mormonism as invented by Joseph Smith has managed to
produce many denominations and splinter cults, at least 50 of which are
currently extant; not bad for 200 years' work...
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[...]
Christianity is the belief that JESUS is [a magical 3rd head of god]...
And you think this is academically SOUND? It's not consistent
with any text. At least you should give the textual basis which
supports your view.
Why should I bother? It's your crazy religion. I don't care what
silly little fine points you want to make about it. The broad
facts are that most Christians believe that Jesus is one part of
a three-part godhead. Non-trinitarians quibble about this and
are a small minority of Christians. Muslims believe that Jesus
was an important prophet, but wholly a man.
...all of this confusion, disagreement, contradiction and ambiguity
within the religious communities is a strong indication that
Jesus never existed.
Out of interest, what brought you to that conclusion?
For comparison, we are generally agreed that Karl Marx existed, and his
political philosophy is as prone to spawning divergent offshoots as
Christianity.
In religion, Mormonism as invented by Joseph Smith has managed to
produce many denominations and splinter cults, at least 50 of which are
currently extant; not bad for 200 years' work...
Succinctly Put.
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...all of this confusion, disagreement, contradiction and ambiguity
within the religious communities is a strong indication that
Jesus never existed.
So If people disagree over Darwin evolution and contradicts it or confuse it with the big bang, would that mean Darwin never existed?
Ummmmm..... You guys did learn the science of critical thinking?
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Why should I bother? It's your crazy religion. I don't care what
silly little fine points you want to make about it. The broad
facts are that most Christians believe that Jesus is one part of
a three-part godhead. Non-trinitarians quibble about this and
are a small minority of Christians. Muslims believe that Jesus
was an important prophet, but wholly a man.
Funny who crashes in at a.a. uninvited and starts a family row.
These people are the same that say atheists "do not believe in god",
as if it was a matter of choice towards an existing god.
But not two of these jokers can agree on anything about their pet
delusions. I really do not know what sort of god I should not believe in.
If only these weirdos could get together and describe and define
the minimum requirements they can all agree on to constitute a god
i might be moved to not believing in it. As of now, no god looks
as substantial as even Friend Harvey to me.
So there is nothing to "not believe in" , just words with private
meanings, anonymous copies of anonymous translations of
lost transcripts from oral traditions, all tainted by unknown agenda.
God is an obsolete concept, it explains nothing, it belongs to history
like phlogiston and humoralism.
Maybe our resident theists sense that , too. It would explain their
aggressive stupidity.
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Post by Davej
Why should I bother? It's your crazy religion. I don't care what
silly little fine points you want to make about it. The broad
facts are that most Christians believe that Jesus is one part of
a three-part godhead. Non-trinitarians quibble about this and
are a small minority of Christians. Muslims believe that Jesus
was an important prophet, but wholly a man.
Funny who crashes in at a.a. uninvited and starts a family row.
These people are the same that say atheists "do not believe in god",
as if it was a matter of choice towards an existing god.
But not two of these jokers can agree on anything about their pet
delusions. I really do not know what sort of god I should not believe in.
If only these weirdos could get together and describe and define
the minimum requirements they can all agree on to constitute a god
i might be moved to not believing in it. As of now, no god looks
as substantial as even Friend Harvey to me.
Someone was once complaining about the Roman Catholic Church how they were so short on explaining as they put out a half baked story which the unsuspected mind would twist thinking he has the whole story figured out.
This is what you are now doing.
The story about the Son Of God in the Bible goes together with the Roman politics in the Roman Empire with the Temple being the fourth branch of government where Augustus Caesar was celebrated as the Sole Ruler of mankind and son of god.
Once they accepted Jesus as the Son Of God they were ratifying the Ten Commandments and moving from polytheism to Monotheism with the Bishops as guarantors and legislators to replace the Romans Pagan SENATORS.
In other words JESUS seized the Roman Empire and gave it to the slaves and poor in the Empire so they may ratify the Law and the 10 Commandments, which they did.
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So there is nothing to "not believe in" , just words with private
meanings, anonymous copies of anonymous translations of
lost transcripts from oral traditions, all tainted by unknown agenda.
God is an obsolete concept, it explains nothing, it belongs to history
like phlogiston and humoralism.
God is real..... It's not any one fault If you can't read the Bible for yourself and comprehend it.
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Maybe our resident theists sense that , too. It would explain their
aggressive stupidity.
cheers
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Islam is the belief that JESUS is [a prophet and not a god]
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Is America an ANTICHRIST nation?
No, America is not for or against any religion. America allows
Christians to go to the church of their own choosing, fund
and operate their churches tax-free, pray constantly (but not
over public address systems at public events), carry a Bible
at all times, send their children to religious schools, and
to sacrifice goats in their own backyards.
Christ mediated a COVENANT for the Gentiles just like the First Covenant Moses mediated for the Hebrews; once you depart from that Covenant you are ANTICHRIST. You have no clear understanding of the Gospel. In that case you should just shut up
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Christ mediated a COVENANT for the Gentiles just like the First Covenant Moses mediated for the Hebrews
Jesus gave the new covenant of love to all mankind.

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On Thu, 23 Feb 2017 12:17:58 -0800 (PST), Your Founding Fathers Erred
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Christ mediated a COVENANT for the Gentiles just like the First Covenant Moses mediated for the Hebrews
Jesus gave the new covenant of love to all mankind.
The COVENANT of love didn't ratify the 10 Commandments for the Roman Temple where Augustus Caesar was worshiped as son of god.
Be real and don't play with the abstract.
Bishops were not appointed just to recite poem on love but to do a specific work to plant Monotheism in society where idols worship used to rule.
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On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 13:06:56 -0800 (PST), We Will Always Hang FagZ And Castrate
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On Thu, 23 Feb 2017 12:17:58 -0800 (PST), Your Founding Fathers Erred
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Christ mediated a COVENANT for the Gentiles just like the First Covenant Moses mediated for the Hebrews
Jesus gave the new covenant of love to all mankind.
The COVENANT of love didn't ratify the 10 Commandments
The new covenant is the true way to follow the 10 commandments.

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On Thu, 23 Feb 2017 12:17:58 -0800 (PST), Your Founding Fathers Erred
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Christ mediated a COVENANT for the Gentiles just like the First Covenant Moses mediated for the Hebrews
Jesus gave the new covenant of love to all mankind.
The COVENANT of love didn't ratify the 10 Commandments
The new covenant is the true way to follow the 10 commandments.
The New Covenant is just like a 'Contract' which tie Gentiles back to the Law of Moses.
Even the believers in the Roman Empire couldn't move away from it while having authority to make their own Law. Hence the syunthesis of what is good in the Pagan Laws with the Moral of Moses Law as spelled out by Saint Paul.
Now you see why homosexual marriage is a breach of contract?

In the case you need help to find the word synthesis in the dictionary let me know.
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On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 13:06:56 -0800 (PST), We Will Always Hang FagZ And Castrate
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On Thu, 23 Feb 2017 12:17:58 -0800 (PST), Your Founding Fathers Erred
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Christ mediated a COVENANT for the Gentiles just like the First Covenant Moses mediated for the Hebrews
Jesus gave the new covenant of love to all mankind.
The COVENANT of love didn't ratify the 10 Commandments
The new covenant is the true way to follow the 10 commandments.
The New Covenant is just like a 'Contract' which tie Gentiles back to the Law of Moses.
Nope, the New Covenant came form Jesus because the old covenant didn't cut the
mustard.


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Christianity is the belief that JESUS is [a magical 3rd head of god]...
Islam is the belief that JESUS is [a prophet and not a god]
My point was that Islam claim to be the pristine Christianity of Jesus' apostles time is justified by the Scriptures too, and here you are opposing Christianity versus Islam which in my belief is an arbitrary label.
Sir, even in the Bible Jesus is described as the Prophet many a time.
The CREED drafted at the Council of Nicaea put it succinctly: "For us and for our salvation He put on flesh became man, or a Prophet If you would." Yet this doesn't undermines the belief that the being was God in flesh.

As why Islam insists on Christ humanity, I invite you to ponder on this. It is a paraphrase of the Qur'an but it will help you get the idea and recover the context of the Islamic doxology:
"Those Arabs have sworn their most solemn oath that If they had their own Messiah/Christ, they would become believers.
Now that we are working to raise among themselves their own Mohammad, this only increases their hostility. Shaking their heads, they ask in disbelief:
What kind of Prince is this? He walks in the marketplace, he eats food in the street corners. He even has no shoes on...."

PLEASE DON'T OVERSIMPLIFY SOME COMPLEX FUCKING IDEAS WITHOUT ELUCIDATING THE WHY
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Is America an ANTICHRIST nation?
No, America is not for or against any religion. America allows
Christians to go to the church of their own choosing, fund
and operate their churches tax-free, pray constantly (but not
over public address systems at public events), carry a Bible
at all times, send their children to religious schools, and
to sacrifice goats in their own backyards.
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