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Reading Luke 8 I noticed something interesting. We read:

8 Now it came to pass, afterward, that He went through every city and village, preaching and bringing the glad tidings of the kingdom of God. And the twelve were with Him, 2 and certain women who had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities—Mary called Magdalene, out of whom had come seven demons, 3 and Joanna the wife of Chuza, Herod’s steward, and Susanna, and many others who provided for Him[a] from their substance.



Interesting. We are told that women provided assist, out of their substance, to Jesus. We are also told that one Joanna, the wife of Chuza, Herod's steward was there. This is really significant. However, with this fact the scripture doesn't mention this over and over again. We aren't given any more information about Joanna, the wife of Chuza, Herod's steward. The wife of a steward of a Roman government official.


If you'd ask me this smacks of a real account, not fiction. Fiction would have gone on and on about this. But this is just of the iceberg in regards to what gives the gospel accounts authenticity.
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2017-10-08 06:18:57 UTC
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8 Now it came to pass, afterward, that He went through every city and village, preaching and bringing the glad tidings of the kingdom of God. And the twelve were with Him, 2 and certain women who had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities—Mary called Magdalene, out of whom had come seven demons, 3 and Joanna the wife of Chuza, Herod’s steward, and Susanna, and many others who provided for Him[a] from their substance.
Interesting. We are told that women provided assist, out of their substance, to Jesus. We are also told that one Joanna, the wife of Chuza, Herod's steward was there. This is really significant. However, with this fact the scripture doesn't mention this over and over again. We aren't given any more information about Joanna, the wife of Chuza, Herod's steward. The wife of a steward of a Roman government official.
If you'd ask me this smacks of a real account, not fiction. Fiction would have gone on and on about this. But this is just of the iceberg in regards to what gives the gospel accounts authenticity.
Not every author believes in Chekhov's gun.


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8 Now it came to pass, afterward, that He went through every city and village, preaching and bringing the glad tidings of the kingdom of God. And the twelve were with Him, 2 and certain women who had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities—Mary called Magdalene, out of whom had come seven demons, 3 and Joanna the wife of Chuza, Herod’s steward, and Susanna, and many others who provided for Him[a] from their substance.
Interesting. We are told that women provided assist, out of their substance, to Jesus. We are also told that one Joanna, the wife of Chuza, Herod's steward was there. This is really significant. However, with this fact the scripture doesn't mention this over and over again. We aren't given any more information about Joanna, the wife of Chuza, Herod's steward. The wife of a steward of a Roman government official.
If you'd ask me this smacks of a real account, not fiction. Fiction would have gone on and on about this. But this is just of the iceberg in regards to what gives the gospel accounts authenticity.
Not every author believes in Chekhov's gun.
a2
Not everyone believes that women would be given attention back in those days.
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2017-10-10 06:11:39 UTC
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8 Now it came to pass, afterward, that He went through every city and village, preaching and bringing the glad tidings of the kingdom of God. And the twelve were with Him, 2 and certain women who had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities—Mary called Magdalene, out of whom had come seven demons, 3 and Joanna the wife of Chuza, Herod’s steward, and Susanna, and many others who provided for Him[a] from their substance.
If they had money to help support them and cooked and cleaned up for
them ... That's exactly what a bunch of religious nutjobs would use
them for. Of course, 'provided for him from their substance' could
have other meanings - sex and blood (were JC and his travelling band
a bunch of vampires?).
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Interesting. We are told that women provided assist, out of their substance, to Jesus. We are also told that one Joanna, the wife of Chuza, Herod's steward was there. This is really significant. However, with this fact the scripture doesn't mention this over and over again. We aren't given any more information about Joanna, the wife of Chuza, Herod's steward. The wife of a steward of a Roman government official.
If you'd ask me this smacks of a real account, not fiction. Fiction would have gone on and on about this. But this is just of the iceberg in regards to what gives the gospel accounts authenticity.
Not every author believes in Chekhov's gun.
a2
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8 Now it came to pass, afterward, that He went through every city and village, preaching and bringing the glad tidings of the kingdom of God. And the twelve were with Him, 2 and certain women who had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities—Mary called Magdalene, out of whom had come seven demons, 3 and Joanna the wife of Chuza, Herod’s steward, and Susanna, and many others who provided for Him[a] from their substance.
If they had money to help support them and cooked and cleaned up for
them ... That's exactly what a bunch of religious nutjobs would use
them for. Of course, 'provided for him from their substance' could
have other meanings - sex and blood (were JC and his travelling band
a bunch of vampires?).
I guess they'd prefer to do nothing and watch soap operas all day. Let the men do all the work. OK. Understood.
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Interesting. We are told that women provided assist, out of their substance, to Jesus. We are also told that one Joanna, the wife of Chuza, Herod's steward was there. This is really significant. However, with this fact the scripture doesn't mention this over and over again. We aren't given any more information about Joanna, the wife of Chuza, Herod's steward. The wife of a steward of a Roman government official.
If you'd ask me this smacks of a real account, not fiction. Fiction would have gone on and on about this. But this is just of the iceberg in regards to what gives the gospel accounts authenticity.
Not every author believes in Chekhov's gun.
a2
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8 Now it came to pass, afterward, that He went through every city and village, preaching and bringing the glad tidings of the kingdom of God. And the twelve were with Him, 2 and certain women who had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities—Mary called Magdalene, out of whom had come seven demons, 3 and Joanna the wife of Chuza, Herod’s steward, and Susanna, and many others who provided for Him[a] from their substance.
If they had money to help support them and cooked and cleaned up for
them ... That's exactly what a bunch of religious nutjobs would use
them for. Of course, 'provided for him from their substance' could
have other meanings - sex and blood (were JC and his travelling band
a bunch of vampires?).
So maybe you'd be all for doing no work and watching soaps all day.
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Interesting. We are told that women provided assist, out of their substance, to Jesus. We are also told that one Joanna, the wife of Chuza, Herod's steward was there. This is really significant. However, with this fact the scripture doesn't mention this over and over again. We aren't given any more information about Joanna, the wife of Chuza, Herod's steward. The wife of a steward of a Roman government official.
If you'd ask me this smacks of a real account, not fiction. Fiction would have gone on and on about this. But this is just of the iceberg in regards to what gives the gospel accounts authenticity.
Not every author believes in Chekhov's gun.
a2
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8 Now it came to pass, afterward, that He went through every city and village, preaching and bringing the glad tidings of the kingdom of God. And the twelve were with Him, 2 and certain women who had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities—Mary called Magdalene, out of whom had come seven demons, 3 and Joanna the wife of Chuza, Herod’s steward, and Susanna, and many others who provided for Him[a] from their substance.
If they had money to help support them and cooked and cleaned up for
them ... That's exactly what a bunch of religious nutjobs would use
them for. Of course, 'provided for him from their substance' could
have other meanings - sex and blood (were JC and his travelling band
a bunch of vampires?).
So maybe you'd be all for doing no work and watching soaps all day.
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Interesting. We are told that women provided assist, out of their substance, to Jesus. We are also told that one Joanna, the wife of Chuza, Herod's steward was there. This is really significant. However, with this fact the scripture doesn't mention this over and over again. We aren't given any more information about Joanna, the wife of Chuza, Herod's steward. The wife of a steward of a Roman government official.
If you'd ask me this smacks of a real account, not fiction. Fiction would have gone on and on about this. But this is just of the iceberg in regards to what gives the gospel accounts authenticity.
Not every author believes in Chekhov's gun.
a2
Not everyone believes that women would be given attention back in those days.
You've never heard of sharing duties? Not even digging latrines?
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2017-10-08 14:24:09 UTC
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8 Now it came to pass, afterward, that He went through every city and village, preaching and bringing the glad tidings of the kingdom of God. And the twelve were with Him, 2 and certain women who had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities—Mary called Magdalene, out of whom had come seven demons, 3 and Joanna the wife of Chuza, Herod’s steward, and Susanna, and many others who provided for Him[a] from their substance.
Interesting. We are told that women provided assist, out of their substance, to Jesus. We are also told that one Joanna, the wife of Chuza, Herod's steward was there. This is really significant. However, with this fact the scripture doesn't mention this over and over again. We aren't given any more information about Joanna, the wife of Chuza, Herod's steward. The wife of a steward of a Roman government official.
If you'd ask me this smacks of a real account, not fiction. Fiction would have gone on and on about this. But this is just of the iceberg in regards to what gives the gospel accounts authenticity.
Not every author believes in Chekhov's gun.
No, but playwrights tend to--that form that compresses a story to 1
1/2 hours pretty much makes "show it, use it" obligatory.
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If you'd ask me this smacks of a real account, not fiction.
Better would be verifiable evidence, of which you/we have none. None whatsoever.
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8 Now it came to pass, afterward, that He went through every city and village, preaching and bringing the glad tidings of the kingdom of God. And the twelve were with Him, 2 and certain women who had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities—Mary called Magdalene, out of whom had come seven demons, 3 and Joanna the wife of Chuza, Herod’s steward, and Susanna, and many others who provided for Him[a] from their substance.
Interesting. We are told that women provided assist, out of their substance, to Jesus. We are also told that one Joanna, the wife of Chuza, Herod's steward was there. This is really significant. However, with this fact the scripture doesn't mention this over and over again. We aren't given any more information about Joanna, the wife of Chuza, Herod's steward. The wife of a steward of a Roman government official.
If you'd ask me this smacks of a real account, not fiction. Fiction would have gone on and on about this. But this is just of the iceberg in regards to what gives the gospel accounts authenticity.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joanna,_wife_of_Chuza>
records a suggestion that Joanna contributed details
into Luke's narrative, which accounts for her being in
the story. She also appears in the grave-robbing scene.

In any case, Luke is repeating and summarising other
people's stories about Jesus. Whether those stories are
true (including seven actual demons) is not guaranteed.
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8 Now it came to pass, afterward, that He went through every city and
village, preaching and bringing the glad tidings of the kingdom of God.
WHAT FUCKING KINGDOM OF WHAT FUCKING GOD?

The psychopath has been pushing this nonsense in the one place where
he knows it is guaranteed to be off-topic and just plain rude for more
than twenty years.
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And the twelve were with Him, 2 and certain women who had been healed
of evil spirits and infirmities—Mary called Magdalene, out of whom had come
seven demons, 3 and Joanna the wife of Chuza, Herod’s steward, and Susanna,
and many others who provided for Him[a] from their substance.
Psychopathic idiot.
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Interesting. We are told that women provided assist, out of their substance,
In exactly the same way we are "told" that Auric Goldfinger tried to
blow up Fort Knox with a nuke, imbecile.
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to Jesus.
Where did you demonstrate that Jesus was any more real than
Goldfinger?

I don't care if you imagine you are buggering him of being buggered by
him when you masturbate - but don't expect us to do the same.
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We are also told
We aren't "told" anything, pathological liar - the story says it,
that's all.
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that one Joanna, the wife of Chuza, Herod's
steward was there. This is really significant. However, with this fact the
scripture doesn't mention this over and over again. We aren't given any
more information
WHAT FUCKING "INFORMATION", liar.
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about Joanna, the wife of Chuza, Herod's steward. The
wife of a steward of a Roman government official.
Irrelevant.
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If you'd ask me this smacks of a real account, not fiction. Fiction would
have gone on and on about this. But this is just of the iceberg in regards
to what gives the gospel accounts authenticity.
What a fucking moron. _Nothing_whatsoever_ gives them any
authenticity.
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<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joanna,_wife_of_Chuza>
records a suggestion that Joanna contributed details
into Luke's narrative, which accounts for her being in
the story. She also appears in the grave-robbing scene.
Historical fiction often drops the names of actual people, to set the
context of the stories..
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In any case, Luke is repeating and summarising other
people's stories about Jesus. Whether those stories are
true (including seven actual demons) is not guaranteed.
There is nothing whatsoever that corroborates them.

Not to mention that they describe things which simply don't and didn't
happen, as well as repeating themes from earlier Mediterranean myths
and legends.
Kurt Nicklas
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8 Now it came to pass, afterward, that He went through every city and
village, preaching and bringing the glad tidings of the kingdom of God.
WHAT FUCKING KINGDOM OF WHAT FUCKING GOD?
CHRISTopher feigns ignorance.

It comes easy.
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8 Now it came to pass, afterward, that He went through every city and
village, preaching and bringing the glad tidings of the kingdom of God.
WHAT FUCKING KINGDOM OF WHAT FUCKING GOD?
CHRISTopher feigns ignorance.
It comes easy.
the one he won't be around to see or witness first hand as he is on his way to the hell he claims isnt there ...
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8 Now it came to pass, afterward, that He went through every city
and village, preaching and bringing the glad tidings of the
kingdom of God.
WHAT FUCKING KINGDOM OF WHAT FUCKING GOD?
CHRISTopher feigns ignorance.
It comes easy.
the one he won't be around to see or witness first hand as he is on his
way to the hell he claims isnt there ...
And the one that you cannot prove is there, wherever 'there' is.
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8 Now it came to pass, afterward, that He went through every city
and village, preaching and bringing the glad tidings of the
kingdom of God.
WHAT FUCKING KINGDOM OF WHAT FUCKING GOD?
CHRISTopher feigns ignorance.
The liar knows perfectly well that atheists aren't any kind of theist,
let alone his kind so they don't believe it.

Yet he rudely and stupidly talks at us as if it were fact, to the
point of deliberate nastiness.
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It comes easy.
the one he won't be around to see or witness first hand as he is on his
way to the hell he claims isnt there ...
What "claim" was the pathological liar lying about?

It's merely the mindless retard's religious belief, and he has a heck
of a lot of work to do to make it more than that - and until he does
that there's nothing to "claim isn't there".

Until then, he begs the question which wouldn't even have been asked,
and "answers" it with a personal lie.

I wish these pig-ignorant morons could at least _try_ to think before
spewing their unsolicited nonsense.

But it seems to go along with being Christian.
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And the one that you cannot prove is there, wherever 'there' is.
Religion makes people stupid.
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8 Now it came to pass, afterward, that He went through every city
and village, preaching and bringing the glad tidings of the
kingdom of God.
WHAT FUCKING KINGDOM OF WHAT FUCKING GOD?
CHRISTopher feigns ignorance.
The liar knows perfectly well that atheists aren't any kind of theist,
let alone his kind so they don't believe it.
Poor baby! CHRISTopher pretends he doesn't understand what I wrote yet again.
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Yet he rudely and stupidly talks at us as if it were fact, to the
point of deliberate nastiness.
And he's still desperately in search of his victimhood without which he thinks he has no validity as a human being.
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It comes easy.
the one he won't be around to see or witness first hand as he is on his
way to the hell he claims isnt there ...
What "claim" was the pathological liar lying about?
It's merely the mindless retard's religious belief, and he has a heck
of a lot of work to do to make it more than that - and until he does
that there's nothing to "claim isn't there".
Until then, he begs the question which wouldn't even have been asked,
and "answers" it with a personal lie.
I wish these pig-ignorant morons could at least _try_ to think before
spewing their unsolicited nonsense.
But it seems to go along with being Christian.
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And the one that you cannot prove is there, wherever 'there' is.
Religion makes people stupid.
CHRISTopher is a coward. He can't bring himself to say things to people's faces so he has to go through an atheist proxy.

Pathetic.
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8 Now it came to pass, afterward, that He went through every city and village, preaching and bringing the glad tidings of the kingdom of God. And the twelve were with Him, 2 and certain women who had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities—Mary called Magdalene, out of whom had come seven demons, 3 and Joanna the wife of Chuza, Herod’s steward, and Susanna, and many others who provided for Him[a] from their substance.
Interesting. We are told that women provided assist, out of their substance, to Jesus. We are also told that one Joanna, the wife of Chuza, Herod's steward was there. This is really significant. However, with this fact the scripture doesn't mention this over and over again. We aren't given any more information about Joanna, the wife of Chuza, Herod's steward. The wife of a steward of a Roman government official.
If you'd ask me this smacks of a real account, not fiction. Fiction would have gone on and on about this. But this is just of the iceberg in regards to what gives the gospel accounts authenticity.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joanna,_wife_of_Chuza>
records a suggestion that Joanna contributed details
into Luke's narrative, which accounts for her being in
the story. She also appears in the grave-robbing scene.
In any case, Luke is repeating and summarising other
people's stories about Jesus. Whether those stories are
true (including seven actual demons) is not guaranteed.
Luke was a physician. His language and choice of words indicate it. He is also known as a first rate historian.
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If you'd ask me this smacks of a real account, not fiction.
Kinda like UFO abduction accounts.
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Reading Luke 8 I noticed something interesting.
"So I posted a babble quote, and contra the charter, started
another thread to proselytize."

FTFY.

Kevin R
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Reading Luke 8 I noticed something interesting.
"So I posted a babble quote, and contra the
charter, started another thread to proselytize."
Kevin R
The fact that atheists must employ thought
police is more evidence that there is a God.
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Reading Luke 8 I noticed something interesting.
"So I posted a babble quote, and contra the
charter, started another thread to proselytize."
Kevin R
.> The fact that atheists must employ thought
.> police is more evidence that there is a God.

Also more evidence that there is a Krishna, since
they get on Jahnu and Jai Maharaj's cases too.


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Reading Luke 8 I noticed something interesting.
"So I posted a babble quote, and contra the charter, started
another thread to proselytize."
FTFY.
Sheriff Kev is about to make an arrest.
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Reading Luke 8 I noticed something interesting.
"So I posted a babble quote, and contra the charter, started
another thread to proselytize."
FTFY.
Sheriff Kev is about to make an arrest.
I'm more like an ancient bard or seanchaí. I won't
arrest anyone, but I might satirize somebody.

Kevin R
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Reading Luke 8 I noticed something interesting.
"So I posted a babble quote, and contra the charter, started
another thread to proselytize."
FTFY.
Sheriff Kev is about to make an arrest.
I'm more like an ancient bard or seanchaí. I won't
arrest anyone, but I might satirize somebody.
You call me a troll over and over. Why do you respond to me?
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Reading Luke 8 I noticed something interesting.
"So I posted a babble quote, and contra the charter, started
another thread to proselytize."
FTFY.
Sheriff Kev is about to make an arrest.
I'm more like an ancient bard or seanchaí. I won't
arrest anyone, but I might satirize somebody.
You call me a troll over and over. Why do you respond to me?
He doesn't want a troll to win enough space in our AA!
Do you feel compressed????
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8 Now it came to pass, afterward, that He went through every city and village, preaching and bringing the glad tidings of the kingdom of God. And the twelve were with Him, 2 and certain women who had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities—Mary called Magdalene, out of whom had come seven demons, 3 and Joanna the wife of Chuza, Herod’s steward, and Susanna, and many others who provided for Him[a] from their substance.
Interesting. We are told that women provided assist, out of their substance, to Jesus. We are also told that one Joanna, the wife of Chuza, Herod's steward was there. This is really significant. However, with this fact the scripture doesn't mention this over and over again. We aren't given any more information about Joanna, the wife of Chuza, Herod's steward. The wife of a steward of a Roman government official.
If you'd ask me this smacks of a real account, not fiction. Fiction would have gone on and on about this. But this is just of the iceberg in regards to what gives the gospel accounts authenticity.
Remember their delusion about the "scientific method." Instead of reading THE TEXT for comprehension, they toss around the term 'scientific method' without even thinking of what's being said. Ah, human nature and his desire to feel important. LOL
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=20
Interesting. We are told that women provided assist, out of their substa=
nce, to Jesus. We are also told that one Joanna, the wife of Chuza, Herod'=
s steward was there. This is really significant. However, with this fact t=
he scripture doesn't mention this over and over again. We aren't given any =
more information about Joanna, the wife of Chuza, Herod's steward. The wife=
of a steward of a Roman government official.=20
=20
=20
If you'd ask me this smacks of a real account, not fiction. Fiction would=
have gone on and on about this. But this is just of the iceberg in regards=
to what gives the gospel accounts authenticity.
Remember their delusion about the "scientific method." Instead of reading T=
HE TEXT for comprehension, they toss around the term 'scientific method'
without even thinking of what's being said. Ah, human nature and his desire
to feel important. LOL
What the fuck are you babbling about now?
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=20
8 Now it came to pass, afterward, that He went through every city and vil=
lage, preaching and bringing the glad tidings of the kingdom of God. And th=
e twelve were with Him, 2 and certain women who had been healed of evil spi=
rits and infirmities=E2=80=94Mary called Magdalene, out of whom had come se=
ven demons, 3 and Joanna the wife of Chuza, Herod=E2=80=99s steward, and Su=
sanna, and many others who provided for Him[a] from their substance.
=20
=20
=20
Interesting. We are told that women provided assist, out of their substa=
nce, to Jesus. We are also told that one Joanna, the wife of Chuza, Herod'=
s steward was there. This is really significant. However, with this fact t=
he scripture doesn't mention this over and over again. We aren't given any =
more information about Joanna, the wife of Chuza, Herod's steward. The wife=
of a steward of a Roman government official.=20
=20
=20
If you'd ask me this smacks of a real account, not fiction. Fiction would=
have gone on and on about this. But this is just of the iceberg in regards=
to what gives the gospel accounts authenticity.
Remember their delusion about the "scientific method." Instead of reading T=
HE TEXT for comprehension, they toss around the term 'scientific method'
without even thinking of what's being said. Ah, human nature and his desire
to feel important. LOL
.> What the fuck are you babbling about now?

Science. Mind you, he doesn't actually know anything about science, but
by golly, he sure knows he doesn't like it.

Just one more data point showing that those who shriek loudest about
science around here are the ones who are the most clueless about it.

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those who shriek loudest about science around
here are the ones who are the most clueless
about it.
If you knew about science, you would know
that organized matter cannot possibly create
itself, and neither can life create itself. Only
the fool would believe such nonsense,


This reminds us again that, the Bible is
correct as it has told us that....


"The ~fool~ has said, 'There is no God'".
~ From the Bible


Nevertheless, I hope you
have a wonderful day!
John Locke
2017-10-09 17:14:08 UTC
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Post by Andrew
those who shriek loudest about science around
here are the ones who are the most clueless
about it.
If you knew about science, you would know
that organized matter cannot possibly create
itself, and neither can life create itself. Only
the fool would believe such nonsense,
...of course life can create itself...it's called reproduction.
Or did the critical aspect of life somehow escape you
in high school biology ?
Post by Andrew
This reminds us again that, the Bible is
correct as it has told us that....
"The ~fool~ has said, 'There is no God'".
~ From the Bible
Nevertheless, I hope you
have a wonderful day!
Atlatl Axolotl
2017-10-09 17:34:38 UTC
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Post by Andrew
those who shriek loudest about science around
here are the ones who are the most clueless
about it.
. If you knew about science,

Which, as been demonstrated here time after time after time,
I do far better than you ...

.>you would know
.> that organized matter cannot possibly create
.> itself, and neither can life create itself.

Funnily enough, every time I try to get you to discuss
any actual science involved in claims like that, you suddenly
remember you need to be elsewhere.

.> Only the fool would believe such nonsense,
.> This reminds us again that, the Bible is
.> correct as it has told us that....
.> "The ~fool~ has said, 'There is no God'".
.> ~ From the Bible
This reminds us again that the Bible says:

whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

Do send us an asbestos postcard, hear?


AtlAxo
Post by Andrew
Nevertheless, I hope you
have a wonderful day!
Andrew
2017-10-09 23:13:05 UTC
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Post by Atlatl Axolotl
those who shriek loudest about science around
here are the ones who are the most clueless
about it.
. If you knew about science,
Which, as been demonstrated here time after time
after time, I do far better than you ...
.> you would know that organized matter cannot possibly
.> create itself, and neither can life create itself.
Funnily enough, every time I try to get you to discuss
any actual science involved in claims like that,
It has to do with the laws of thermodynamic and biogenesis.

Contrary to these laws, the atheist believes that all the matter
in the Universe, as well as living things created themselves.

But the truth is that only a fool would believe such nonsense
that is contrary to known science,
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
you suddenly
remember you need to be elsewhere.
.> Only the fool would believe such nonsense,
.> This reminds us again that, the Bible is
.> correct as it has told us that....
.> "The ~fool~ has said, 'There is no God'".
.> ~ From the Bible
whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Yes, and that is not the case here.

When in Proverbs it says, "The fool has said, 'There is no God'"
it is a statement of observed wisdom, not a personal accusation.
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Do send us an asbestos postcard, hear?
AtlAxo
Nevertheless, I hope you have a wonderful day!
Atlatl Axolotl
2017-10-09 23:49:33 UTC
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Post by Atlatl Axolotl
those who shriek loudest about science around
here are the ones who are the most clueless
about it.
. If you knew about science,
Which, as been demonstrated here time after time
after time, I do far better than you ...
.> you would know that organized matter cannot possibly
.> create itself, and neither can life create itself.
Funnily enough, every time I try to get you to discuss
any actual science involved in claims like that,
.> It has to do with the laws of thermodynamic and biogenesis.

Good! Let's chat. Specify exactly what these laws are -- no hand waving now,
exact formulations -- and then for each case how the current consensus ignores them:










AA
Post by Andrew
Contrary to these laws, the atheist believes that all the matter
in the Universe, as well as living things created themselves.
But the truth is that only a fool would believe such nonsense
that is contrary to known science,
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
you suddenly
remember you need to be elsewhere.
.> Only the fool would believe such nonsense,
.> This reminds us again that, the Bible is
.> correct as it has told us that....
.> "The ~fool~ has said, 'There is no God'".
.> ~ From the Bible
whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Yes, and that is not the case here.
When in Proverbs it says, "The fool has said, 'There is no God'"
it is a statement of observed wisdom, not a personal accusation.
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Do send us an asbestos postcard, hear?
AtlAxo
Nevertheless, I hope you have a wonderful day!
Andrew
2017-10-10 04:47:32 UTC
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Post by Andrew
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
those who shriek loudest about science around
here are the ones who are the most clueless
about it.
. If you knew about science,
Which, as been demonstrated here time after time
after time, I do far better than you ...
.> you would know that organized matter cannot possibly
.> create itself, and neither can life create itself.
Funnily enough, every time I try to get you to discuss
any actual science involved in claims like that,
.> It has to do with the laws of thermodynamic and biogenesis.
Good! Let's chat. Specify exactly what these laws are --
You here testify of your ignorance of the laws of science.
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
AA
Post by Andrew
Contrary to these laws, the atheist believes that all the matter
in the Universe, as well as living things created themselves.
But the truth is that only a fool would believe such nonsense
that is contrary to known science,
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
you suddenly
remember you need to be elsewhere.
.> Only the fool would believe such nonsense,
.> This reminds us again that, the Bible is
.> correct as it has told us that....
.> "The ~fool~ has said, 'There is no God'".
.> ~ From the Bible
whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Yes, and that is not the case here.
When in Proverbs it says, "The fool has said, 'There is no God'"
it is a statement of observed wisdom, not a personal accusation.
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Do send us an asbestos postcard, hear?
AtlAxo
Nevertheless, I hope you have a wonderful day!
Atlatl Axolotl
2017-10-10 05:05:03 UTC
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Post by Atlatl Axolotl
those who shriek loudest about science around
here are the ones who are the most clueless
about it.
. If you knew about science,
Which, as been demonstrated here time after time
after time, I do far better than you ...
.> you would know that organized matter cannot possibly
.> create itself, and neither can life create itself.
Funnily enough, every time I try to get you to discuss
any actual science involved in claims like that,
.> > .> It has to do with the laws of thermodynamic and biogenesis.
.> > Good! Let's chat. Specify exactly what these laws are --
.> You here testify of your ignorance of the laws of science.

PFFFFFTTT! Of all the many ways you've employed to wriggle out
of any discussion remotely scientific, that has to be
the most hilarious.

Very entertaining. Now, are you ready to actually discuss
actual science?

Or do you have further wriggles in store for us?






AtlAxo
Post by Andrew
Contrary to these laws, the atheist believes that all the matter
in the Universe, as well as living things created themselves.
But the truth is that only a fool would believe such nonsense
that is contrary to known science,
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
you suddenly
remember you need to be elsewhere.
.> Only the fool would believe such nonsense,
.> This reminds us again that, the Bible is
.> correct as it has told us that....
.> "The ~fool~ has said, 'There is no God'".
.> ~ From the Bible
whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Yes, and that is not the case here.
When in Proverbs it says, "The fool has said, 'There is no God'"
it is a statement of observed wisdom, not a personal accusation.
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Do send us an asbestos postcard, hear?
AtlAxo
Nevertheless, I hope you have a wonderful day!
Atlatl Axolotl
2017-10-09 23:52:37 UTC
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Post by Atlatl Axolotl
those who shriek loudest about science around
here are the ones who are the most clueless
about it.
. If you knew about science,
Which, as been demonstrated here time after time
after time, I do far better than you ...
.> you would know that organized matter cannot possibly
.> create itself, and neither can life create itself.
Funnily enough, every time I try to get you to discuss
any actual science involved in claims like that,
It has to do with the laws of thermodynamic and biogenesis.
Contrary to these laws, the atheist believes that all the matter
in the Universe, as well as living things created themselves.
But the truth is that only a fool would believe such nonsense
that is contrary to known science,
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
you suddenly
remember you need to be elsewhere.
.> Only the fool would believe such nonsense,
.> This reminds us again that, the Bible is
.> correct as it has told us that....
.> "The ~fool~ has said, 'There is no God'".
.> ~ From the Bible
.> > This reminds us again that the Bible says:
.> >
Post by Andrew
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
.> Yes, and that is not the case here.
.> When in Proverbs it says, "The fool has said, 'There is no God'"
.> it is a statement of observed wisdom, not a personal accusation.

Ah. So that had nothing to do with me; it was just a random Bible blurt
that you felt inspired to emit at the time.

All righty then.


A2
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Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Do send us an asbestos postcard, hear?
AtlAxo
Nevertheless, I hope you have a wonderful day!
Andrew
2017-10-10 04:47:20 UTC
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Post by Andrew
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
those who shriek loudest about science around
here are the ones who are the most clueless
about it.
. If you knew about science,
Which, as been demonstrated here time after time
after time, I do far better than you ...
.> you would know that organized matter cannot possibly
.> create itself, and neither can life create itself.
Funnily enough, every time I try to get you to discuss
any actual science involved in claims like that,
It has to do with the laws of thermodynamic and biogenesis.
Contrary to these laws, the atheist believes that all the matter
in the Universe, as well as living things created themselves.
But the truth is that only a fool would believe such nonsense
that is contrary to known science,
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
you suddenly
remember you need to be elsewhere.
.> Only the fool would believe such nonsense,
.> This reminds us again that, the Bible is
.> correct as it has told us that....
.> "The ~fool~ has said, 'There is no God'".
.> ~ From the Bible
.> >
Post by Andrew
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
.> Yes, and that is not the case here.
.> When in Proverbs it says, "The fool has said, 'There is no God'"
.> it is a statement of observed wisdom, not a personal accusation.
Ah. So that had nothing to do with me; it was just a random Bible blurt
that you felt inspired to emit at the time.
It is a statement of observed wisdom.

If you perceived it to apply to you, then so be it.

It is a matter between you and your conscience.
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
All righty then.
Are you feeling better now?
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
A2
Post by Andrew
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Do send us an asbestos postcard, hear?
AtlAxo
Nevertheless, I hope you have a wonderful day!
Atlatl Axolotl
2017-10-10 05:12:57 UTC
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Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Post by Andrew
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
those who shriek loudest about science around
here are the ones who are the most clueless
about it.
. If you knew about science,
Which, as been demonstrated here time after time
after time, I do far better than you ...
.> you would know that organized matter cannot possibly
.> create itself, and neither can life create itself.
Funnily enough, every time I try to get you to discuss
any actual science involved in claims like that,
It has to do with the laws of thermodynamic and biogenesis.
Contrary to these laws, the atheist believes that all the matter
in the Universe, as well as living things created themselves.
But the truth is that only a fool would believe such nonsense
that is contrary to known science,
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
you suddenly
remember you need to be elsewhere.
.> Only the fool would believe such nonsense,
.> This reminds us again that, the Bible is
.> correct as it has told us that....
.> "The ~fool~ has said, 'There is no God'".
.> ~ From the Bible
.> >
Post by Andrew
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
.> Yes, and that is not the case here.
.> When in Proverbs it says, "The fool has said, 'There is no God'"
.> it is a statement of observed wisdom, not a personal accusation.
.> > Ah. So that had nothing to do with me; it was just a random Bible blurt
.> > that you felt inspired to emit at the time.
.> It is a statement of observed wisdom.
.> If you perceived it to apply to you, then so be it.

Yeah, you just happened to suddenly blurt it out
in a post directed at me.

.> It is a matter between you and your conscience.

Heh. No, your blatantly disingenuous back peddling now when you know
full well what you intended should be pricking your conscience.

Assuming you're capable of it.

Aa
Post by Andrew
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
All righty then.
Are you feeling better now?
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
A2
Post by Andrew
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Do send us an asbestos postcard, hear?
AtlAxo
Nevertheless, I hope you have a wonderful day!
Andrew
2017-10-10 09:55:09 UTC
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Post by Andrew
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Post by Andrew
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
those who shriek loudest about science around
here are the ones who are the most clueless
about it.
. If you knew about science,
Which, as been demonstrated here time after time
after time, I do far better than you ...
.> you would know that organized matter cannot possibly
.> create itself, and neither can life create itself.
Funnily enough, every time I try to get you to discuss
any actual science involved in claims like that,
It has to do with the laws of thermodynamic and biogenesis.
Contrary to these laws, the atheist believes that all the matter
in the Universe, as well as living things created themselves.
But the truth is that only a fool would believe such nonsense
that is contrary to known science,
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
you suddenly
remember you need to be elsewhere.
.> Only the fool would believe such nonsense,
.> This reminds us again that, the Bible is
.> correct as it has told us that....
.> "The ~fool~ has said, 'There is no God'".
.> ~ From the Bible
.> >
Post by Andrew
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
.> Yes, and that is not the case here.
.> When in Proverbs it says, "The fool has said, 'There is no God'"
.> it is a statement of observed wisdom, not a personal accusation.
.> > Ah. So that had nothing to do with me; it was just a random Bible blurt
.> > that you felt inspired to emit at the time.
.> It is a statement of observed wisdom.
.> If you perceived it to apply to you, then so be it.
Yeah, you just happened to suddenly blurt it out
in a post directed at me.
The issue here is between you and God.
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
.> It is a matter between you and your conscience.
Heh. No, your blatantly disingenuous back peddling now when you know
full well what you intended should be pricking your conscience.
Assuming you're capable of it.
Aa
Post by Andrew
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
All righty then.
Are you feeling better now?
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
A2
Post by Andrew
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Do send us an asbestos postcard, hear?
AtlAxo
Nevertheless, I hope you have a wonderful day!
Tim
2017-10-10 10:04:16 UTC
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Post by Andrew
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Post by Andrew
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
those who shriek loudest about science around
here are the ones who are the most clueless
about it.
. If you knew about science,
Which, as been demonstrated here time after time
after time, I do far better than you ...
.> you would know that organized matter cannot possibly
.> create itself, and neither can life create itself.
Funnily enough, every time I try to get you to discuss
any actual science involved in claims like that,
It has to do with the laws of thermodynamic and biogenesis.
Contrary to these laws, the atheist believes that all the matter
in the Universe, as well as living things created themselves.
But the truth is that only a fool would believe such nonsense
that is contrary to known science,
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
you suddenly
remember you need to be elsewhere.
.> Only the fool would believe such nonsense,
.> This reminds us again that, the Bible is
.> correct as it has told us that....
.> "The ~fool~ has said, 'There is no God'".
.> ~ From the Bible
.> >
Post by Andrew
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
.> Yes, and that is not the case here.
.> When in Proverbs it says, "The fool has said, 'There is no God'"
.> it is a statement of observed wisdom, not a personal accusation.
.> > Ah. So that had nothing to do with me; it was just a random Bible blurt
.> > that you felt inspired to emit at the time.
.> It is a statement of observed wisdom.
.> If you perceived it to apply to you, then so be it.
Yeah, you just happened to suddenly blurt it out
in a post directed at me.
The issue here is between you and God.
No the issue is that you have zero evidence for the existence of any gods.
Post by Andrew
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
.> It is a matter between you and your conscience.
Heh. No, your blatantly disingenuous back peddling now when you know
full well what you intended should be pricking your conscience.
Assuming you're capable of it.
Aa
Post by Andrew
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
All righty then.
Are you feeling better now?
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
A2
Post by Andrew
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Do send us an asbestos postcard, hear?
AtlAxo
Nevertheless, I hope you have a wonderful day!
Andrew
2017-10-10 10:42:50 UTC
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Post by Andrew
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Post by Andrew
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
those who shriek loudest about science around
here are the ones who are the most clueless
about it.
. If you knew about science,
Which, as been demonstrated here time after time
after time, I do far better than you ...
.> you would know that organized matter cannot possibly
.> create itself, and neither can life create itself.
Funnily enough, every time I try to get you to discuss
any actual science involved in claims like that,
It has to do with the laws of thermodynamic and biogenesis.
Contrary to these laws, the atheist believes that all the matter
in the Universe, as well as living things created themselves.
But the truth is that only a fool would believe such nonsense
that is contrary to known science,
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
you suddenly
remember you need to be elsewhere.
.> Only the fool would believe such nonsense,
.> This reminds us again that, the Bible is
.> correct as it has told us that....
.> "The ~fool~ has said, 'There is no God'".
.> ~ From the Bible
.> >
Post by Andrew
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
.> Yes, and that is not the case here.
.> When in Proverbs it says, "The fool has said, 'There is no God'"
.> it is a statement of observed wisdom, not a personal accusation.
.> > Ah. So that had nothing to do with me; it was just a random Bible blurt
.> > that you felt inspired to emit at the time.
.> It is a statement of observed wisdom.
.> If you perceived it to apply to you, then so be it.
Yeah, you just happened to suddenly blurt it out
in a post directed at me.
The issue here is between you and God.
No the issue is that you have zero evidence for the existence of any gods.
I do have evidence that there are none.
Post by Tim
Post by Andrew
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
.> It is a matter between you and your conscience.
Heh. No, your blatantly disingenuous back peddling now when you know
full well what you intended should be pricking your conscience.
Assuming you're capable of it.
Aa
Post by Andrew
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
All righty then.
Are you feeling better now?
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
A2
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Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Do send us an asbestos postcard, hear?
AtlAxo
Nevertheless, I hope you have a wonderful day!
Yap Honghor
2017-10-10 12:10:04 UTC
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Post by Andrew
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Post by Andrew
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
those who shriek loudest about science around
here are the ones who are the most clueless
about it.
. If you knew about science,
Which, as been demonstrated here time after time
after time, I do far better than you ...
.> you would know that organized matter cannot possibly
.> create itself, and neither can life create itself.
Funnily enough, every time I try to get you to discuss
any actual science involved in claims like that,
It has to do with the laws of thermodynamic and biogenesis.
Contrary to these laws, the atheist believes that all the matter
in the Universe, as well as living things created themselves.
But the truth is that only a fool would believe such nonsense
that is contrary to known science,
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
you suddenly
remember you need to be elsewhere.
.> Only the fool would believe such nonsense,
.> This reminds us again that, the Bible is
.> correct as it has told us that....
.> "The ~fool~ has said, 'There is no God'".
.> ~ From the Bible
.> >
Post by Andrew
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
.> Yes, and that is not the case here.
.> When in Proverbs it says, "The fool has said, 'There is no God'"
.> it is a statement of observed wisdom, not a personal accusation.
.> > Ah. So that had nothing to do with me; it was just a random Bible blurt
.> > that you felt inspired to emit at the time.
.> It is a statement of observed wisdom.
.> If you perceived it to apply to you, then so be it.
Yeah, you just happened to suddenly blurt it out
in a post directed at me.
The issue here is between you and God.
No the issue is that you have zero evidence for the existence of any gods.
I do have evidence that there are none.
Good...at least you understand there is no evidence for any pixie.
Time to get out of your delusion.....and you will live happier.
Post by Andrew
Post by Tim
Post by Andrew
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
.> It is a matter between you and your conscience.
Heh. No, your blatantly disingenuous back peddling now when you know
full well what you intended should be pricking your conscience.
Assuming you're capable of it.
Aa
Post by Andrew
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
All righty then.
Are you feeling better now?
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A2
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Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Do send us an asbestos postcard, hear?
AtlAxo
Nevertheless, I hope you have a wonderful day!
Andrew
2017-10-10 15:48:13 UTC
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those who shriek loudest about science around
here are the ones who are the most clueless
about it.
. If you knew about science,
Which, as been demonstrated here time after time
after time, I do far better than you ...
.> you would know that organized matter cannot possibly
.> create itself, and neither can life create itself.
Funnily enough, every time I try to get you to discuss
any actual science involved in claims like that,
It has to do with the laws of thermodynamic and biogenesis.
Contrary to these laws, the atheist believes that all the matter
in the Universe, as well as living things created themselves.
But the truth is that only a fool would believe such nonsense
that is contrary to known science,
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
you suddenly
remember you need to be elsewhere.
.> Only the fool would believe such nonsense,
.> This reminds us again that, the Bible is
.> correct as it has told us that....
.> "The ~fool~ has said, 'There is no God'".
.> ~ From the Bible
.> >
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Post by Atlatl Axolotl
whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
.> Yes, and that is not the case here.
.> When in Proverbs it says, "The fool has said, 'There is no God'"
.> it is a statement of observed wisdom, not a personal accusation.
.> > Ah. So that had nothing to do with me; it was just a random Bible blurt
.> > that you felt inspired to emit at the time.
.> It is a statement of observed wisdom.
.> If you perceived it to apply to you, then so be it.
Yeah, you just happened to suddenly blurt it out
in a post directed at me.
The issue here is between you and God.
No the issue is that you have zero evidence for the existence of any gods.
I do have evidence that there are none.
Good...at least you understand there is no evidence for any pixie.
There is no pixie, but the evidence is clear that there is a most
awesome Creator.
Post by Yap Honghor
Time to get out of your delusion.....and you will live happier.
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.> It is a matter between you and your conscience.
Heh. No, your blatantly disingenuous back peddling now when you know
full well what you intended should be pricking your conscience.
Assuming you're capable of it.
Aa
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All righty then.
Are you feeling better now?
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A2
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Do send us an asbestos postcard, hear?
AtlAxo
Nevertheless, I hope you have a wonderful day!
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those who shriek loudest about science around
here are the ones who are the most clueless
about it.
. If you knew about science,
Which, as been demonstrated here time after time
after time, I do far better than you ...
.> you would know that organized matter cannot possibly
.> create itself, and neither can life create itself.
Funnily enough, every time I try to get you to discuss
any actual science involved in claims like that,
It has to do with the laws of thermodynamic and biogenesis.
Contrary to these laws, the atheist believes that all the matter
in the Universe, as well as living things created themselves.
But the truth is that only a fool would believe such nonsense
that is contrary to known science,
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
you suddenly
remember you need to be elsewhere.
.> Only the fool would believe such nonsense,
.> This reminds us again that, the Bible is
.> correct as it has told us that....
.> "The ~fool~ has said, 'There is no God'".
.> ~ From the Bible
.> >
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Post by Atlatl Axolotl
whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
.> Yes, and that is not the case here.
.> When in Proverbs it says, "The fool has said, 'There is no God'"
.> it is a statement of observed wisdom, not a personal accusation.
.> > Ah. So that had nothing to do with me; it was just a random Bible blurt
.> > that you felt inspired to emit at the time.
.> It is a statement of observed wisdom.
.> If you perceived it to apply to you, then so be it.
Yeah, you just happened to suddenly blurt it out
in a post directed at me.
The issue here is between you and God.
No the issue is that you have zero evidence for the existence of any gods.
I do have evidence that there are none.
Good...at least you understand there is no evidence for any pixie.
There is no pixie, but the evidence is clear that there is a most
awesome Creator.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demiurge
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those who shriek loudest about science around
here are the ones who are the most clueless
about it.
. If you knew about science,
Which, as been demonstrated here time after time
after time, I do far better than you ...
.> you would know that organized matter cannot possibly
.> create itself, and neither can life create itself.
Funnily enough, every time I try to get you to discuss
any actual science involved in claims like that,
It has to do with the laws of thermodynamic and biogenesis.
Contrary to these laws, the atheist believes that all the matter
in the Universe, as well as living things created themselves.
But the truth is that only a fool would believe such nonsense
that is contrary to known science,
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
you suddenly
remember you need to be elsewhere.
.> Only the fool would believe such nonsense,
.> This reminds us again that, the Bible is
.> correct as it has told us that....
.> "The ~fool~ has said, 'There is no God'".
.> ~ From the Bible
.> >
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Post by Atlatl Axolotl
whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
.> Yes, and that is not the case here.
.> When in Proverbs it says, "The fool has said, 'There is no God'"
.> it is a statement of observed wisdom, not a personal accusation.
.> > Ah. So that had nothing to do with me; it was just a random Bible blurt
.> > that you felt inspired to emit at the time.
.> It is a statement of observed wisdom.
.> If you perceived it to apply to you, then so be it.
Yeah, you just happened to suddenly blurt it out
in a post directed at me.
The issue here is between you and God.
No the issue is that you have zero evidence for the existence of any gods.
I do have evidence that there are none.
Good...at least you understand there is no evidence for any pixie.
There is no pixie, but the evidence is clear
What "evidence"?
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2017-10-11 01:40:58 UTC
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those who shriek loudest about science around
here are the ones who are the most clueless
about it.
. If you knew about science,
Which, as been demonstrated here time after time
after time, I do far better than you ...
.> you would know that organized matter cannot possibly
.> create itself, and neither can life create itself.
Funnily enough, every time I try to get you to discuss
any actual science involved in claims like that,
It has to do with the laws of thermodynamic and biogenesis.
Contrary to these laws, the atheist believes that all the matter
in the Universe, as well as living things created themselves.
But the truth is that only a fool would believe such nonsense
that is contrary to known science,
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
you suddenly
remember you need to be elsewhere.
.> Only the fool would believe such nonsense,
.> This reminds us again that, the Bible is
.> correct as it has told us that....
.> "The ~fool~ has said, 'There is no God'".
.> ~ From the Bible
.> >
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Post by Atlatl Axolotl
whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
.> Yes, and that is not the case here.
.> When in Proverbs it says, "The fool has said, 'There is no God'"
.> it is a statement of observed wisdom, not a personal accusation.
.> > Ah. So that had nothing to do with me; it was just a random Bible blurt
.> > that you felt inspired to emit at the time.
.> It is a statement of observed wisdom.
.> If you perceived it to apply to you, then so be it.
Yeah, you just happened to suddenly blurt it out
in a post directed at me.
The issue here is between you and God.
No the issue is that you have zero evidence for the existence of any gods.
I do have evidence that there are none.
Good...at least you understand there is no evidence for any pixie.
There is no pixie, but the evidence is clear that there is a most
awesome Creator.
For your information, a pixie=creator!
If you deny there is a pixie, then you are equally denying there is a creator.....
See how easy this is!
A***@yahoo.com
2017-10-11 01:42:21 UTC
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those who shriek loudest about science around
here are the ones who are the most clueless
about it.
. If you knew about science,
Which, as been demonstrated here time after time
after time, I do far better than you ...
.> you would know that organized matter cannot possibly
.> create itself, and neither can life create itself.
Funnily enough, every time I try to get you to discuss
any actual science involved in claims like that,
It has to do with the laws of thermodynamic and biogenesis.
Contrary to these laws, the atheist believes that all the matter
in the Universe, as well as living things created themselves.
But the truth is that only a fool would believe such nonsense
that is contrary to known science,
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
you suddenly
remember you need to be elsewhere.
.> Only the fool would believe such nonsense,
.> This reminds us again that, the Bible is
.> correct as it has told us that....
.> "The ~fool~ has said, 'There is no God'".
.> ~ From the Bible
.> >
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Post by Atlatl Axolotl
whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
.> Yes, and that is not the case here.
.> When in Proverbs it says, "The fool has said, 'There is no God'"
.> it is a statement of observed wisdom, not a personal accusation.
.> > Ah. So that had nothing to do with me; it was just a random Bible blurt
.> > that you felt inspired to emit at the time.
.> It is a statement of observed wisdom.
.> If you perceived it to apply to you, then so be it.
Yeah, you just happened to suddenly blurt it out
in a post directed at me.
The issue here is between you and God.
No the issue is that you have zero evidence for the existence of any gods.
I do have evidence that there are none.
Good...at least you understand there is no evidence for any pixie.
There is no pixie, but the evidence is clear that there is a most
awesome Creator.
For your information, a pixie=creator!
If you deny there is a pixie, then you are equally denying there is a creator.....
See how easy this is!
You've got that information wrong.
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2017-10-11 07:14:09 UTC
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Post by Atlatl Axolotl
those who shriek loudest about science around
here are the ones who are the most clueless
about it.
. If you knew about science,
Which, as been demonstrated here time after time
after time, I do far better than you ...
.> you would know that organized matter cannot possibly
.> create itself, and neither can life create itself.
Funnily enough, every time I try to get you to discuss
any actual science involved in claims like that,
It has to do with the laws of thermodynamic and biogenesis.
Contrary to these laws, the atheist believes that all the matter
in the Universe, as well as living things created themselves.
But the truth is that only a fool would believe such nonsense
that is contrary to known science,
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
you suddenly
remember you need to be elsewhere.
.> Only the fool would believe such nonsense,
.> This reminds us again that, the Bible is
.> correct as it has told us that....
.> "The ~fool~ has said, 'There is no God'".
.> ~ From the Bible
.> >
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Post by Atlatl Axolotl
whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
.> Yes, and that is not the case here.
.> When in Proverbs it says, "The fool has said, 'There is no God'"
.> it is a statement of observed wisdom, not a personal accusation.
.> > Ah. So that had nothing to do with me; it was just a random Bible blurt
.> > that you felt inspired to emit at the time.
.> It is a statement of observed wisdom.
.> If you perceived it to apply to you, then so be it.
Yeah, you just happened to suddenly blurt it out
in a post directed at me.
The issue here is between you and God.
No the issue is that you have zero evidence for the existence of any gods.
I do have evidence that there are none.
Good...at least you understand there is no evidence for any pixie.
There is no pixie, but the evidence is clear that there is a most
awesome Creator.
For your information, a pixie=creator!
If you deny there is a pixie, then you are equally denying there is a creator.....
See how easy this is!
You've got that information wrong.
You think it is natural for you to wrong me without any reason?????
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2017-10-11 03:13:20 UTC
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those who shriek loudest about science around
here are the ones who are the most clueless
about it.
. If you knew about science,
Which, as been demonstrated here time after time
after time, I do far better than you ...
.> you would know that organized matter cannot possibly
.> create itself, and neither can life create itself.
Funnily enough, every time I try to get you to discuss
any actual science involved in claims like that,
It has to do with the laws of thermodynamic and biogenesis.
Contrary to these laws, the atheist believes that all the matter
in the Universe, as well as living things created themselves.
But the truth is that only a fool would believe such nonsense
that is contrary to known science,
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
you suddenly
remember you need to be elsewhere.
.> Only the fool would believe such nonsense,
.> This reminds us again that, the Bible is
.> correct as it has told us that....
.> "The ~fool~ has said, 'There is no God'".
.> ~ From the Bible
.> >
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Post by Atlatl Axolotl
whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
.> Yes, and that is not the case here.
.> When in Proverbs it says, "The fool has said, 'There is no God'"
.> it is a statement of observed wisdom, not a personal accusation.
.> > Ah. So that had nothing to do with me; it was just a random Bible blurt
.> > that you felt inspired to emit at the time.
.> It is a statement of observed wisdom.
.> If you perceived it to apply to you, then so be it.
Yeah, you just happened to suddenly blurt it out
in a post directed at me.
The issue here is between you and God.
No the issue is that you have zero evidence for the existence of any gods.
I do have evidence that there are none.
Good...at least you understand there is no evidence for any pixie.
There is no pixie, but the evidence is clear that there is a most
awesome Creator.
For your information, a pixie=creator!
This is called a "straw-man" fallacy.

Since you cannot refute the truth that..we have a most awesome
and wonderful Creator, aka God, you therefore attach Him to a
"straw-man". Then, by knocking down the false "straw-man" that
you erected, you foolishly think that you have debunked the truth
that you are trying to hide from.

However, it won't work. It rather reveals your desperation by
your foolishly trying to fight against the truth.
Post by Yap Honghor
If you deny there is a pixie, then you are equally denying there
is a creator..... See how easy this is!
See above.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
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those who shriek loudest about science around
here are the ones who are the most clueless
about it.
. If you knew about science,
Which, as been demonstrated here time after time
after time, I do far better than you ...
.> you would know that organized matter cannot possibly
.> create itself, and neither can life create itself.
Funnily enough, every time I try to get you to discuss
any actual science involved in claims like that,
It has to do with the laws of thermodynamic and biogenesis.
Contrary to these laws, the atheist believes that all the matter
in the Universe, as well as living things created themselves.
But the truth is that only a fool would believe such nonsense
that is contrary to known science,
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
you suddenly
remember you need to be elsewhere.
.> Only the fool would believe such nonsense,
.> This reminds us again that, the Bible is
.> correct as it has told us that....
.> "The ~fool~ has said, 'There is no God'".
.> ~ From the Bible
.> >
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Post by Atlatl Axolotl
whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
.> Yes, and that is not the case here.
.> When in Proverbs it says, "The fool has said, 'There is no God'"
.> it is a statement of observed wisdom, not a personal accusation.
.> > Ah. So that had nothing to do with me; it was just a random Bible blurt
.> > that you felt inspired to emit at the time.
.> It is a statement of observed wisdom.
.> If you perceived it to apply to you, then so be it.
Yeah, you just happened to suddenly blurt it out
in a post directed at me.
The issue here is between you and God.
No the issue is that you have zero evidence for the existence of any gods.
I do have evidence that there are none.
Good...at least you understand there is no evidence for any pixie.
There is no pixie, but the evidence is clear that there is a most
awesome Creator.
For your information, a pixie=creator!
This is called a "straw-man" fallacy.
It is not, Andrew.
No one, from thousands of years ago, has been able to provide one nano evidence that there was a creator!!!!!!
And to fancy a creator which is omnipotence, it cannot create Moonlings too.

For these 2 reasons alone, your creator = pixie!!!!!
Post by Andrew
Since you cannot refute the truth that..we have a most awesome
and wonderful Creator, aka God, you therefore attach Him to a
"straw-man". Then, by knocking down the false "straw-man" that
you erected, you foolishly think that you have debunked the truth
that you are trying to hide from.
Theists are the ones who attached your creator to a strawman which itself is a useless thing. Worse, at least the strawman is real, capable of scaring the birds away, but not your creator.
Post by Andrew
However, it won't work. It rather reveals your desperation by
your foolishly trying to fight against the truth.
I have given enough reasons and logical thinking to refute your delusion.
If you are only interested in your pixie, you have the right to it.
However, you cannot post your message assuming that we agree with you and start each of your post with false premise!!!!!
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Post by Yap Honghor
If you deny there is a pixie, then you are equally denying there
is a creator..... See how easy this is!
See above.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
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2017-10-11 02:06:15 UTC
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those who shriek loudest about science around
here are the ones who are the most clueless
about it.
. If you knew about science,
Which, as been demonstrated here time after time
after time, I do far better than you ...
.> you would know that organized matter cannot possibly
.> create itself, and neither can life create itself.
Funnily enough, every time I try to get you to discuss
any actual science involved in claims like that,
It has to do with the laws of thermodynamic and biogenesis.
Contrary to these laws, the atheist believes that all the matter
in the Universe, as well as living things created themselves.
But the truth is that only a fool would believe such nonsense
that is contrary to known science,
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
you suddenly
remember you need to be elsewhere.
.> Only the fool would believe such nonsense,
.> This reminds us again that, the Bible is
.> correct as it has told us that....
.> "The ~fool~ has said, 'There is no God'".
.> ~ From the Bible
.> >
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Post by Atlatl Axolotl
whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
.> Yes, and that is not the case here.
.> When in Proverbs it says, "The fool has said, 'There is no God'"
.> it is a statement of observed wisdom, not a personal accusation.
.> > Ah. So that had nothing to do with me; it was just a random Bible blurt
.> > that you felt inspired to emit at the time.
.> It is a statement of observed wisdom.
.> If you perceived it to apply to you, then so be it.
Yeah, you just happened to suddenly blurt it out
in a post directed at me.
The issue here is between you and God.
No the issue is that you have zero evidence for the existence of any gods.
I do have evidence that there are none.
No, you have faith that there is only one and it just so happens to be the one you believe in.

But the Hindus don't believe in your god, and they have the same faith you do, but that there are lots of gods.

And the other theists...
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2017-10-10 14:44:55 UTC
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those who shriek loudest about science around
here are the ones who are the most clueless
about it.
. If you knew about science,
Which, as been demonstrated here time after time
after time, I do far better than you ...
.> you would know that organized matter cannot possibly
.> create itself, and neither can life create itself.
Funnily enough, every time I try to get you to discuss
any actual science involved in claims like that,
It has to do with the laws of thermodynamic and biogenesis.
Contrary to these laws, the atheist believes that all the matter
in the Universe, as well as living things created themselves.
But the truth is that only a fool would believe such nonsense
that is contrary to known science,
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
you suddenly
remember you need to be elsewhere.
.> Only the fool would believe such nonsense,
.> This reminds us again that, the Bible is
.> correct as it has told us that....
.> "The ~fool~ has said, 'There is no God'".
.> ~ From the Bible
.> >
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Post by Atlatl Axolotl
whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
.> Yes, and that is not the case here.
.> When in Proverbs it says, "The fool has said, 'There is no God'"
.> it is a statement of observed wisdom, not a personal accusation.
.> > Ah. So that had nothing to do with me; it was just a random Bible blurt
.> > that you felt inspired to emit at the time.
.> It is a statement of observed wisdom.
.> If you perceived it to apply to you, then so be it.
.> > Yeah, you just happened to suddenly blurt it out
.> > in a post directed at me.
.> The issue here is between you and God.

Heh. No, the issue here is that when I said let's discuss the science,
you called me a fool:

"Only the fool would believe such nonsense,"

and then, in a delightful reversal of our usual roles,
I got to quote the Bible at you.

This is fun! Let's do it again sometime.

AtlAxo
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
.> It is a matter between you and your conscience.
Heh. No, your blatantly disingenuous back peddling now when you know
full well what you intended should be pricking your conscience.
Assuming you're capable of it.
Aa
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All righty then.
Are you feeling better now?
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A2
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Do send us an asbestos postcard, hear?
AtlAxo
Nevertheless, I hope you have a wonderful day!
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2017-10-10 14:48:12 UTC
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.> The issue here is between you and God.
Heh. No, the issue here is that when I said let's discuss the science,

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those who shriek loudest about science around
here are the ones who are the most clueless
about it.
. If you knew about science,
Which, as been demonstrated here time after time
after time, I do far better than you ...
.> you would know that organized matter cannot possibly
.> create itself, and neither can life create itself.
Funnily enough, every time I try to get you to discuss
any actual science involved in claims like that,
It has to do with the laws of thermodynamic and biogenesis.
Contrary to these laws, the atheist believes that all the matter
in the Universe, as well as living things created themselves.
But the truth is that only a fool would believe such nonsense
that is contrary to known science,
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
you suddenly
remember you need to be elsewhere.
.> Only the fool would believe such nonsense,
.> This reminds us again that, the Bible is
.> correct as it has told us that....
.> "The ~fool~ has said, 'There is no God'".
.> ~ From the Bible
.> >
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Post by Atlatl Axolotl
whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
.> Yes, and that is not the case here.
.> When in Proverbs it says, "The fool has said, 'There is no God'"
.> it is a statement of observed wisdom, not a personal accusation.
.> > Ah. So that had nothing to do with me; it was just a random Bible blurt
.> > that you felt inspired to emit at the time.
.> It is a statement of observed wisdom.
.> If you perceived it to apply to you, then so be it.
.> > Yeah, you just happened to suddenly blurt it out
.> > in a post directed at me.
.> The issue here is between you and God.
Heh. No, the issue here is that when I said let's
"Only the fool would believe such nonsense,"
It appears that *you identified >yourself< as a fool*
by being ~a believer~ in such nonsense.

"that all the matter in the Universe, as well
as living things *created themselves*."

Only a fool would, contrary to known
science, believe such nonsense.
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
and then, in a delightful reversal of our usual roles,
I got to quote the Bible at you.
This is fun! Let's do it again sometime.
AtlAxo
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.> It is a matter between you and your conscience.
Heh. No, your blatantly disingenuous back peddling now when you know
full well what you intended should be pricking your conscience.
Assuming you're capable of it.
Aa
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All righty then.
Are you feeling better now?
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A2
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Do send us an asbestos postcard, hear?
AtlAxo
Nevertheless, I hope you have a wonderful day!
Atlatl Axolotl
2017-10-10 19:00:24 UTC
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those who shriek loudest about science around
here are the ones who are the most clueless
about it.
. If you knew about science,
Which, as been demonstrated here time after time
after time, I do far better than you ...
.> you would know that organized matter cannot possibly
.> create itself, and neither can life create itself.
Funnily enough, every time I try to get you to discuss
any actual science involved in claims like that,
It has to do with the laws of thermodynamic and biogenesis.
Contrary to these laws, the atheist believes that all the matter
in the Universe, as well as living things created themselves.
But the truth is that only a fool would believe such nonsense
that is contrary to known science,
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
you suddenly
remember you need to be elsewhere.
.> Only the fool would believe such nonsense,
.> This reminds us again that, the Bible is
.> correct as it has told us that....
.> "The ~fool~ has said, 'There is no God'".
.> ~ From the Bible
.> >
Post by Andrew
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
.> Yes, and that is not the case here.
.> When in Proverbs it says, "The fool has said, 'There is no God'"
.> it is a statement of observed wisdom, not a personal accusation.
.> > Ah. So that had nothing to do with me; it was just a random Bible blurt
.> > that you felt inspired to emit at the time.
.> It is a statement of observed wisdom.
.> If you perceived it to apply to you, then so be it.
.> > Yeah, you just happened to suddenly blurt it out
.> > in a post directed at me.
.> The issue here is between you and God.
.> > Heh. No, the issue here is that when I said let's
.> > discuss the science, you called me a fool:
.> > "Only the fool would believe such nonsense,"
.> It appears that *you identified >yourself< as a fool*
.> by being ~a believer~ in such nonsense.
.> "that all the matter in the Universe, as well
.> as living things *created themselves*."
.> Only a fool would, contrary to known
.> science, believe such nonsense.

And again Andrew calls me a fool. His Jesus will be quite cross with him.

If He exists that is. Andrew will find out one day.
Or else Andrew won't.

My money's on the latter.

In any event I wonder if his Jesus is also miffed that Andrew makes Christians
look petulant, dishonest, and downright cowardly with his endless avoiding
of my requests that we check Andrew's understanding of "known science".

Well, again: if He exists.

Andrew's making me feel like we're in "Are You Smarter than a Fifth Grader?",
a show I watched a few times.

It's as if I'm the eponymous fifth grader.

And Andrew, it's turning out, is not smarter.

a2A
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and then, in a delightful reversal of our usual roles,
I got to quote the Bible at you.
This is fun! Let's do it again sometime.
AtlAxo
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
.> It is a matter between you and your conscience.
Heh. No, your blatantly disingenuous back peddling now when you know
full well what you intended should be pricking your conscience.
Assuming you're capable of it.
Aa
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All righty then.
Are you feeling better now?
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A2
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Do send us an asbestos postcard, hear?
AtlAxo
Nevertheless, I hope you have a wonderful day!
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2017-10-13 04:16:11 UTC
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Post by Andrew
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
those who shriek loudest about science around
here are the ones who are the most clueless
about it.
. If you knew about science,
Which, as been demonstrated here time after time
after time, I do far better than you ...
.> you would know that organized matter cannot possibly
.> create itself, and neither can life create itself.
Funnily enough, every time I try to get you to discuss
any actual science involved in claims like that,
It has to do with the laws of thermodynamic and biogenesis.
Contrary to these laws, the atheist believes that all the matter
in the Universe, as well as living things created themselves.
But the truth is that only a fool would believe such nonsense
that is contrary to known science,
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
you suddenly
remember you need to be elsewhere.
.> Only the fool would believe such nonsense,
.> This reminds us again that, the Bible is
.> correct as it has told us that....
.> "The ~fool~ has said, 'There is no God'".
.> ~ From the Bible
.> >
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Post by Atlatl Axolotl
whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
.> Yes, and that is not the case here.
.> When in Proverbs it says, "The fool has said, 'There is no God'"
.> it is a statement of observed wisdom, not a personal accusation.
.> > Ah. So that had nothing to do with me; it was just a random Bible blurt
.> > that you felt inspired to emit at the time.
.> It is a statement of observed wisdom.
.> If you perceived it to apply to you, then so be it.
Yeah, you just happened to suddenly blurt it out
in a post directed at me.
The issue here is between you and God.
What 'God'?
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Post by Atlatl Axolotl
.> It is a matter between you and your conscience.
Heh. No, your blatantly disingenuous back peddling now when you know
full well what you intended should be pricking your conscience.
Assuming you're capable of it.
Aa
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Post by Atlatl Axolotl
All righty then.
Are you feeling better now?
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A2
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Do send us an asbestos postcard, hear?
AtlAxo
Nevertheless, I hope you have a wonderful day!
Yap Honghor
2017-10-10 06:49:35 UTC
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those who shriek loudest about science around
here are the ones who are the most clueless
about it.
. If you knew about science,
Which, as been demonstrated here time after time
after time, I do far better than you ...
.> you would know that organized matter cannot possibly
.> create itself, and neither can life create itself.
Funnily enough, every time I try to get you to discuss
any actual science involved in claims like that,
It has to do with the laws of thermodynamic and biogenesis.
Contrary to these laws, the atheist believes that all the matter
in the Universe, as well as living things created themselves.
But the truth is that only a fool would believe such nonsense
that is contrary to known science,
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
you suddenly
remember you need to be elsewhere.
.> Only the fool would believe such nonsense,
.> This reminds us again that, the Bible is
.> correct as it has told us that....
.> "The ~fool~ has said, 'There is no God'".
.> ~ From the Bible
.> >
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Post by Atlatl Axolotl
whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
.> Yes, and that is not the case here.
.> When in Proverbs it says, "The fool has said, 'There is no God'"
.> it is a statement of observed wisdom, not a personal accusation.
Ah. So that had nothing to do with me; it was just a random Bible blurt
that you felt inspired to emit at the time.
It is a statement of observed wisdom.
What? Ancient con words become wisdom?
<Sigh> You must have been wasted on coming to your adulthood.
Post by Andrew
If you perceived it to apply to you, then so be it.
It is a matter between you and your conscience.
You are devoid of conscience because you don't use your brain wisely, of course unless you are brainless.
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Post by Atlatl Axolotl
All righty then.
Are you feeling better now?
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A2
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Do send us an asbestos postcard, hear?
AtlAxo
Nevertheless, I hope you have a wonderful day!
Peter Pan
2017-10-10 00:21:19 UTC
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Post by Andrew
It has to do with the laws of thermodynamic and biogenesis.
Contrary to these laws, the atheist believes that all the matter
in the Universe, as well as living things created themselves.
But the truth is that only a fool would believe such nonsense
that is contrary to known science,
How do any laws of thermodynamics, laws of biogenesis,
and known science, preclude abiogenesis, evolution, or
plate tectonics?

Please don't mistake this as a question about what
atheists believe.
Andrew
2017-10-10 04:46:57 UTC
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Post by Andrew
It has to do with the laws of thermodynamic and biogenesis.
Contrary to these laws, the atheist believes that all the matter
in the Universe, as well as living things created themselves.
But the truth is that only a fool would believe such nonsense
that is contrary to known science,
How do any laws of thermodynamics, laws of biogenesis,
Life comes only from pre-existing life, and that of its
own kind.

And the first law of thermodynamics tells us that energy
and matter cannot be created or destroyed, but that energy
can be converted to matter and matter can be converted to
energy.

In light of this, I affirm that matter was created by our
Creator who has omnipotence - unlimited energy.
Post by Peter Pan
and known science, preclude abiogenesis, evolution, or
plate tectonics?
Please don't mistake this as a question about what
atheists believe.
OK.
Atlatl Axolotl
2017-10-10 05:08:07 UTC
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Post by Andrew
It has to do with the laws of thermodynamic and biogenesis.
Contrary to these laws, the atheist believes that all the matter
in the Universe, as well as living things created themselves.
But the truth is that only a fool would believe such nonsense
that is contrary to known science,
How do any laws of thermodynamics, laws of biogenesis,
.> Life comes only from pre-existing life, and that of its
.> own kind.
.> And the first law of thermodynamics tells us that energy
.> and matter cannot be created or destroyed, but that energy
.> can be converted to matter and matter can be converted to
.> energy.

And I've corrected you on each of those claims.

More than once at that. Considerably more than once.


Want to run through it again?


atlatl
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In light of this, I affirm that matter was created by our
Creator who has omnipotence - unlimited energy.
Post by Peter Pan
and known science, preclude abiogenesis, evolution, or
plate tectonics?
Please don't mistake this as a question about what
atheists believe.
OK.
John Locke
2017-10-10 06:59:05 UTC
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Post by Peter Pan
Post by Andrew
It has to do with the laws of thermodynamic and biogenesis.
Contrary to these laws, the atheist believes that all the matter
in the Universe, as well as living things created themselves.
But the truth is that only a fool would believe such nonsense
that is contrary to known science,
How do any laws of thermodynamics, laws of biogenesis,
.> Life comes only from pre-existing life, and that of its
.> own kind.
.> And the first law of thermodynamics tells us that energy
.> and matter cannot be created or destroyed, but that energy
.> can be converted to matter and matter can be converted to
.> energy.
And I've corrected you on each of those claims.
More than once at that. Considerably more than once.
Want to run through it again?
...you'd be wasting your time. It's been explained to Androol and the
other delusional fundys in this group countless times over the years.
You'd have better luck with a retarded chipmunk.
Andrew
2017-10-10 09:58:51 UTC
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Post by Andrew
It has to do with the laws of thermodynamic and biogenesis.
Contrary to these laws, the atheist believes that all the matter
in the Universe, as well as living things created themselves.
But the truth is that only a fool would believe such nonsense
that is contrary to known science,
How do any laws of thermodynamics, laws of biogenesis,
.> Life comes only from pre-existing life, and that of its
.> own kind.
.> And the first law of thermodynamics tells us that energy
.> and matter cannot be created or destroyed, but that energy
.> can be converted to matter and matter can be converted to
.> energy.
And I've corrected you on each of those claims.
More than once at that. Considerably more than once.
Want to run through it again?
...you'd be wasting your time. It's been explained to Androol and the
other delusional fundys in this group countless times over the years.
You'd have better luck with a retarded chipmunk.
Matter does not create itself, neither does life
create itself. In spite of that, you folks gullibly
believe in pseudo-science fantasies, contrary
to real science and its known laws.
Yap Honghor
2017-10-10 06:46:25 UTC
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Post by Andrew
It has to do with the laws of thermodynamic and biogenesis.
Contrary to these laws, the atheist believes that all the matter
in the Universe, as well as living things created themselves.
But the truth is that only a fool would believe such nonsense
that is contrary to known science,
How do any laws of thermodynamics, laws of biogenesis,
Life comes only from pre-existing life, and that of its
own kind.
And the first law of thermodynamics tells us that energy
and matter cannot be created or destroyed, but that energy
can be converted to matter and matter can be converted to
energy.
In light of this, I affirm that matter was created by our
Creator who has omnipotence - unlimited energy.
So far so good, but the pertinent question comes from: "Who created this creator and gave it omnipotence?????????"

Next, who or what created it before that, so forth and so forth, unlimitedly...

Your injured head cannot answer this question!!!!!
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Post by Peter Pan
and known science, preclude abiogenesis, evolution, or
plate tectonics?
Please don't mistake this as a question about what
atheists believe.
OK.
Andrew
2017-10-10 09:57:10 UTC
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Post by Andrew
It has to do with the laws of thermodynamic and biogenesis.
Contrary to these laws, the atheist believes that all the matter
in the Universe, as well as living things created themselves.
But the truth is that only a fool would believe such nonsense
that is contrary to known science,
How do any laws of thermodynamics, laws of biogenesis,
Life comes only from pre-existing life, and that of its
own kind.
And the first law of thermodynamics tells us that energy
and matter cannot be created or destroyed, but that energy
can be converted to matter and matter can be converted to
energy.
In light of this, I affirm that matter was created by our
Creator who has omnipotence - unlimited energy.
So far so good,
Thank you.
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but the pertinent question comes from: "Who created this creator and gave it omnipotence?????????"
Why do you think He was created?
Post by Yap Honghor
Next, who or what created it before that, so forth and so forth, unlimitedly...
Your injured head cannot answer this question!!!!!
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Post by Peter Pan
and known science, preclude abiogenesis, evolution, or
plate tectonics?
Please don't mistake this as a question about what
atheists believe.
OK.
Yap Honghor
2017-10-10 12:08:10 UTC
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Post by Yap Honghor
Post by Andrew
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Andrew
It has to do with the laws of thermodynamic and biogenesis.
Contrary to these laws, the atheist believes that all the matter
in the Universe, as well as living things created themselves.
But the truth is that only a fool would believe such nonsense
that is contrary to known science,
How do any laws of thermodynamics, laws of biogenesis,
Life comes only from pre-existing life, and that of its
own kind.
And the first law of thermodynamics tells us that energy
and matter cannot be created or destroyed, but that energy
can be converted to matter and matter can be converted to
energy.
In light of this, I affirm that matter was created by our
Creator who has omnipotence - unlimited energy.
So far so good,
Thank you.
Post by Yap Honghor
but the pertinent question comes from: "Who created this creator and gave it omnipotence?????????"
Why do you think He was created?
From our wisdom, we can safely say that nothing can survive by itself, NOTHING!
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Post by Yap Honghor
Next, who or what created it before that, so forth and so forth, unlimitedly...
Your injured head cannot answer this question!!!!!
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Post by Peter Pan
and known science, preclude abiogenesis, evolution, or
plate tectonics?
Please don't mistake this as a question about what
atheists believe.
OK.
Peter Pan
2017-10-10 07:08:35 UTC
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Post by Andrew
It has to do with the laws of thermodynamic and biogenesis.
Contrary to these laws, the atheist believes that all the matter
in the Universe, as well as living things created themselves.
But the truth is that only a fool would believe such nonsense
that is contrary to known science,
How do any laws of thermodynamics, laws of biogenesis,
and known science, preclude abiogenesis, evolution, or
plate tectonics?
Life comes only from pre-existing life, and that of its
own kind.
Only as far as you have observed. That it couldn't have
happened before is your extrapolated assumption.
Post by Andrew
And the first law of thermodynamics tells us that energy
and matter cannot be created or destroyed, but that energy
can be converted to matter and matter can be converted to
energy.
In light of this, I affirm that matter was created by our
Creator who has omnipotence - unlimited energy.
Matter and energy can be interconverted but not created
nor destroyed... so, therefore, matter and life were
created by a supernatural entity?

I don't follow the logical leap. Can you fill in the
gaps?
Andrew
2017-10-10 09:56:59 UTC
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Post by Andrew
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Andrew
It has to do with the laws of thermodynamic and biogenesis.
Contrary to these laws, the atheist believes that all the matter
in the Universe, as well as living things created themselves.
But the truth is that only a fool would believe such nonsense
that is contrary to known science,
How do any laws of thermodynamics, laws of biogenesis,
and known science, preclude abiogenesis, evolution, or
plate tectonics?
Life comes only from pre-existing life, and that of its
own kind.
Only as far as you have observed. That it couldn't have
happened before is your extrapolated assumption.
Post by Andrew
And the first law of thermodynamics tells us that energy
and matter cannot be created or destroyed, but that energy
can be converted to matter and matter can be converted to
energy.
In light of this, I affirm that matter was created by our
Creator who has omnipotence - unlimited energy.
Matter and energy can be interconverted but not created
nor destroyed... so, therefore, matter and life were
created by a supernatural entity?
.. who is our Creator who possesses the attribute
of *omnipotence* and power to create ex nihilo.
Post by Peter Pan
I don't follow the logical leap. Can you fill in the
gaps?
Perhaps not all the gaps, but we have
enough information to know that He
is.
Tim
2017-10-10 10:05:17 UTC
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Post by Peter Pan
Post by Andrew
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Andrew
It has to do with the laws of thermodynamic and biogenesis.
Contrary to these laws, the atheist believes that all the matter
in the Universe, as well as living things created themselves.
But the truth is that only a fool would believe such nonsense
that is contrary to known science,
How do any laws of thermodynamics, laws of biogenesis,
and known science, preclude abiogenesis, evolution, or
plate tectonics?
Life comes only from pre-existing life, and that of its
own kind.
Only as far as you have observed. That it couldn't have
happened before is your extrapolated assumption.
Post by Andrew
And the first law of thermodynamics tells us that energy
and matter cannot be created or destroyed, but that energy
can be converted to matter and matter can be converted to
energy.
In light of this, I affirm that matter was created by our
Creator who has omnipotence - unlimited energy.
Matter and energy can be interconverted but not created
nor destroyed... so, therefore, matter and life were
created by a supernatural entity?
.. who is our Creator who possesses the attribute
of *omnipotence* and power to create ex nihilo.
That's just a myth.
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Post by Peter Pan
I don't follow the logical leap. Can you fill in the
gaps?
Perhaps not all the gaps, but we have
enough information to know that He
is.
No, you have no information to know that. You just have blind faith. And that doesn't cut it.
Peter Pan
2017-10-10 16:56:46 UTC
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Post by Peter Pan
Post by Andrew
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Andrew
It has to do with the laws of thermodynamic and biogenesis.
Contrary to these laws, the atheist believes that all the matter
in the Universe, as well as living things created themselves.
But the truth is that only a fool would believe such nonsense
that is contrary to known science,
How do any laws of thermodynamics, laws of biogenesis,
and known science, preclude abiogenesis, evolution, or
plate tectonics?
Life comes only from pre-existing life, and that of its
own kind.
Only as far as you have observed. That it couldn't have
happened before is your extrapolated assumption.
Post by Andrew
And the first law of thermodynamics tells us that energy
and matter cannot be created or destroyed, but that energy
can be converted to matter and matter can be converted to
energy.
In light of this, I affirm that matter was created by our
Creator who has omnipotence - unlimited energy.
Matter and energy can be interconverted but not created
nor destroyed... so, therefore, matter and life were
created by a supernatural entity?
.. who is our Creator who possesses the attribute
of *omnipotence* and power to create ex nihilo.
Are you saying only the -->Awesome Creator<-- can create
--> Ex Nihilo? Uhmm... sorry, it happens every second.
Quantum vacuum fluctuations are well known.

https://infidels.org/library/modern/mark_vuletic/vacuum.html

(Someone recently posted this link here, sorry i can't
remember who, but thank you.)
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Post by Peter Pan
I don't follow the logical leap. Can you fill in the
gaps?
Perhaps not all the gaps, but we have
enough information to know that He
is.
Are you saying the gaps are filled with Helium? Or that
it's not a logical leap you made, it's more like just
flying off the wall.
Andrew
2017-10-11 03:13:44 UTC
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Post by Andrew
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Andrew
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Andrew
It has to do with the laws of thermodynamic and biogenesis.
Contrary to these laws, the atheist believes that all the matter
in the Universe, as well as living things created themselves.
But the truth is that only a fool would believe such nonsense
that is contrary to known science,
How do any laws of thermodynamics, laws of biogenesis,
and known science, preclude abiogenesis, evolution, or
plate tectonics?
Life comes only from pre-existing life, and that of its
own kind.
Only as far as you have observed. That it couldn't have
happened before is your extrapolated assumption.
Post by Andrew
And the first law of thermodynamics tells us that energy
and matter cannot be created or destroyed, but that energy
can be converted to matter and matter can be converted to
energy.
In light of this, I affirm that matter was created by our
Creator who has omnipotence - unlimited energy.
Matter and energy can be interconverted but not created
nor destroyed... so, therefore, matter and life were
created by a supernatural entity?
.. who is our Creator who possesses the attribute
of *omnipotence* and power to create ex nihilo.
Are you saying only the -->Awesome Creator<-- can create
--> Ex Nihilo? Uhmm... sorry, it happens every second.
Quantum vacuum fluctuations are well known.
https://infidels.org/library/modern/mark_vuletic/vacuum.html
Problem here is that these "particles" do not have a permanent
existence in the real world, which is why they are called virtual
particles, and thus cannot be a plausible explanation for matter
comprising our mult-billion galaxy Universe.
Post by Peter Pan
(Someone recently posted this link here, sorry i can't
remember who, but thank you.)
Yes, and that is the best you can offer, but it doesn't work in
the real world as far as the creation of matter is conserned.
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Andrew
Post by Peter Pan
I don't follow the logical leap. Can you fill in the
gaps?
Perhaps not all the gaps, but we have
enough information to know that He
is.
Are you saying the gaps are filled with Helium? Or that
it's not a logical leap you made, it's more like just
flying off the wall.
Peter Pan
2017-10-11 09:10:54 UTC
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Post by Andrew
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Andrew
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Andrew
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Andrew
It has to do with the laws of thermodynamic and biogenesis.
Contrary to these laws, the atheist believes that all the matter
in the Universe, as well as living things created themselves.
But the truth is that only a fool would believe such nonsense
that is contrary to known science,
How do any laws of thermodynamics, laws of biogenesis,
and known science, preclude abiogenesis, evolution, or
plate tectonics?
Life comes only from pre-existing life, and that of its
own kind.
Only as far as you have observed. That it couldn't have
happened before is your extrapolated assumption.
Post by Andrew
And the first law of thermodynamics tells us that energy
and matter cannot be created or destroyed, but that energy
can be converted to matter and matter can be converted to
energy.
In light of this, I affirm that matter was created by our
Creator who has omnipotence - unlimited energy.
Matter and energy can be interconverted but not created
nor destroyed... so, therefore, matter and life were
created by a supernatural entity?
.. who is our Creator who possesses the attribute
of *omnipotence* and power to create ex nihilo.
Are you saying only the -->Awesome Creator<-- can create
--> Ex Nihilo? Uhmm... sorry, it happens every second.
Quantum vacuum fluctuations are well known.
https://infidels.org/library/modern/mark_vuletic/vacuum.html
Problem here is that these "particles" do not have a permanent
existence in the real world, which is why they are called virtual
particles, and thus cannot be a plausible explanation for matter
comprising our mult-billion galaxy Universe.
You didn't read very far, or perhaps you prefer to ignore
it:

***************
Can the Universe Come from Nothing?
Virtual particles are constrained to have short lives
because they represent an increase in the energy of the
universe; Heisenberg's uncertainty principle affords room
for sufficiently short-lived virtual particles, but
long-lived ones appearing in a universe such as ours
would violate the first law of thermodynamics. One might
think, then, that quantum vacuum fluctuations cannot have
any relevance for the origin of the universe. On the
contrary, some physicists, going back at least to Tryon
(1973) believe that the entire universe might be a
massive quantum vacuum fluctuation.[Q6] The key feature
of the universe that would make this possible would be a
total energy of zero. You might wonder how the universe
could have a total energy of zero. The answer is that
gravitational energy is negative—when summed with the
positive energy of the matter in the universe, the two
quantities may cancel out.[Q7] [Q8] Neither Heisenberg's
uncertainty principle, nor the first law of
thermodynamics, place any limit on the length of time a
quantum vacuum fluctuation of zero total energy could
persist, so the longevity of our universe does not rule
out a quantum vacuum fluctuation origin.
***************

So it's plausible the universe appeared from nothing
without violating physics as we know it so far. That
can't be said for a --->magical poofing of the universe
into existence by --->Awesome Creator, which would
violate all known laws of thermodynamics. Strangely
enough, you give AC a pass on the scientific scrutiny.
Post by Andrew
Post by Peter Pan
(Someone recently posted this link here, sorry i can't
remember who, but thank you.)
Yes, and that is the best you can offer, but it doesn't work in
the real world as far as the creation of matter is conserned.
So what's your theory about how --->AC magicked up a
whole self-consistent universe in 4000 BCE, with an
apparent age of billions of years?
Post by Andrew
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Andrew
Post by Peter Pan
I don't follow the logical leap. Can you fill in the
gaps?
Perhaps not all the gaps, but we have
enough information to know that He
is.
Are you saying the gaps are filled with Helium? Or that
it's not a logical leap you made, it's more like just
flying off the wall.
Are you still breathing the helium?
Andrew
2017-10-11 16:15:46 UTC
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Post by Andrew
Post by Peter Pan
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Post by Andrew
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Post by Andrew
It has to do with the laws of thermodynamic and biogenesis.
Contrary to these laws, the atheist believes that all the matter
in the Universe, as well as living things created themselves.
But the truth is that only a fool would believe such nonsense
that is contrary to known science,
How do any laws of thermodynamics, laws of biogenesis,
and known science, preclude abiogenesis, evolution, or
plate tectonics?
Life comes only from pre-existing life, and that of its
own kind.
Only as far as you have observed. That it couldn't have
happened before is your extrapolated assumption.
Post by Andrew
And the first law of thermodynamics tells us that energy
and matter cannot be created or destroyed, but that energy
can be converted to matter and matter can be converted to
energy.
In light of this, I affirm that matter was created by our
Creator who has omnipotence - unlimited energy.
Matter and energy can be interconverted but not created
nor destroyed... so, therefore, matter and life were
created by a supernatural entity?
.. who is our Creator who possesses the attribute
of *omnipotence* and power to create ex nihilo.
Are you saying only the -->Awesome Creator<-- can create
--> Ex Nihilo? Uhmm... sorry, it happens every second.
Quantum vacuum fluctuations are well known.
https://infidels.org/library/modern/mark_vuletic/vacuum.html
Problem here is that these "particles" do not have a permanent
existence in the real world, which is why they are called virtual
particles, and thus cannot be a plausible explanation for matter
comprising our mult-billion galaxy Universe.
Fantasized hypotheses that are contrary to established science
may safely be ignored by those who want the truth.
Post by Peter Pan
***************
Can the Universe Come from Nothing?
Virtual particles are constrained to have short lives
because they represent an increase in the energy of the
universe; Heisenberg's uncertainty principle affords room
for sufficiently short-lived virtual particles, but
long-lived ones appearing in a universe such as ours
would violate the first law of thermodynamics. One might
think, then, that quantum vacuum fluctuations cannot have
any relevance for the origin of the universe. On the
contrary, some physicists, going back at least to Tryon
(1973) believe that the entire universe might be a
massive quantum vacuum fluctuation.[Q6] The key feature
of the universe that would make this possible would be a
total energy of zero. You might wonder how the universe
could have a total energy of zero. The answer is that
gravitational energy is negative-when summed with the
positive energy of the matter in the universe, the two
quantities may cancel out.[Q7] [Q8] Neither Heisenberg's
uncertainty principle, nor the first law of
thermodynamics, place any limit on the length of time a
quantum vacuum fluctuation of zero total energy could
persist, so the longevity of our universe does not rule
out a quantum vacuum fluctuation origin.
***************
So it's plausible the universe appeared from nothing
without violating physics as we know it so far. That
can't be said for a --->magical poofing of the universe
into existence by --->Awesome Creator, which would
violate all known laws of thermodynamics. Strangely
enough, you give AC a pass on the scientific scrutiny.
Post by Andrew
Post by Peter Pan
(Someone recently posted this link here, sorry i can't
remember who, but thank you.)
Yes, and that is the best you can offer, but it doesn't work in
the real world as far as the creation of matter is conserned.
So what's your theory about how --->AC magicked up a
whole self-consistent universe in 4000 BCE, with an
apparent age of billions of years?
Post by Andrew
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Andrew
Post by Peter Pan
I don't follow the logical leap. Can you fill in the
gaps?
Perhaps not all the gaps, but we have
enough information to know that He
is.
Are you saying the gaps are filled with Helium? Or that
it's not a logical leap you made, it's more like just
flying off the wall.
Are you still breathing the helium?
Atlatl Axolotl
2017-10-11 17:03:06 UTC
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Post by Peter Pan
Post by Andrew
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Andrew
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Andrew
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Andrew
It has to do with the laws of thermodynamic and biogenesis.
Contrary to these laws, the atheist believes that all the matter
in the Universe, as well as living things created themselves.
But the truth is that only a fool would believe such nonsense
that is contrary to known science,
How do any laws of thermodynamics, laws of biogenesis,
and known science, preclude abiogenesis, evolution, or
plate tectonics?
Life comes only from pre-existing life, and that of its
own kind.
Only as far as you have observed. That it couldn't have
happened before is your extrapolated assumption.
Post by Andrew
And the first law of thermodynamics tells us that energy
and matter cannot be created or destroyed, but that energy
can be converted to matter and matter can be converted to
energy.
In light of this, I affirm that matter was created by our
Creator who has omnipotence - unlimited energy.
Matter and energy can be interconverted but not created
nor destroyed... so, therefore, matter and life were
created by a supernatural entity?
.. who is our Creator who possesses the attribute
of *omnipotence* and power to create ex nihilo.
Are you saying only the -->Awesome Creator<-- can create
--> Ex Nihilo? Uhmm... sorry, it happens every second.
Quantum vacuum fluctuations are well known.
https://infidels.org/library/modern/mark_vuletic/vacuum.html
Problem here is that these "particles" do not have a permanent
existence in the real world, which is why they are called virtual
particles, and thus cannot be a plausible explanation for matter
comprising our mult-billion galaxy Universe.
.> > You didn't read very far, or perhaps you prefer to ignore it:
.> Fantasized hypotheses that are contrary to established science
.> may safely be ignored by those who want the truth.

"contrary to established science"...

So, Andrew is knowledgeable about "established science",
but three well known physicists, Ed Tryon, Paul Davies, and Stephen Hawking
are apparently ignorant of it.

Gee, if I were prone to calling people fools...


a2a
Post by Peter Pan
***************
Can the Universe Come from Nothing?
Virtual particles are constrained to have short lives
because they represent an increase in the energy of the
universe; Heisenberg's uncertainty principle affords room
for sufficiently short-lived virtual particles, but
long-lived ones appearing in a universe such as ours
would violate the first law of thermodynamics. One might
think, then, that quantum vacuum fluctuations cannot have
any relevance for the origin of the universe. On the
contrary, some physicists, going back at least to Tryon
(1973) believe that the entire universe might be a
massive quantum vacuum fluctuation.[Q6] The key feature
of the universe that would make this possible would be a
total energy of zero. You might wonder how the universe
could have a total energy of zero. The answer is that
gravitational energy is negative-when summed with the
positive energy of the matter in the universe, the two
quantities may cancel out.[Q7] [Q8] Neither Heisenberg's
uncertainty principle, nor the first law of
thermodynamics, place any limit on the length of time a
quantum vacuum fluctuation of zero total energy could
persist, so the longevity of our universe does not rule
out a quantum vacuum fluctuation origin.
***************
So it's plausible the universe appeared from nothing
without violating physics as we know it so far. That
can't be said for a --->magical poofing of the universe
into existence by --->Awesome Creator, which would
violate all known laws of thermodynamics. Strangely
enough, you give AC a pass on the scientific scrutiny.
Post by Andrew
Post by Peter Pan
(Someone recently posted this link here, sorry i can't
remember who, but thank you.)
Yes, and that is the best you can offer, but it doesn't work in
the real world as far as the creation of matter is conserned.
So what's your theory about how --->AC magicked up a
whole self-consistent universe in 4000 BCE, with an
apparent age of billions of years?
Post by Andrew
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Andrew
Post by Peter Pan
I don't follow the logical leap. Can you fill in the
gaps?
Perhaps not all the gaps, but we have
enough information to know that He
is.
Are you saying the gaps are filled with Helium? Or that
it's not a logical leap you made, it's more like just
flying off the wall.
Are you still breathing the helium?
Peter Pan
2017-10-11 20:48:16 UTC
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Post by Andrew
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Andrew
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Andrew
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Andrew
It has to do with the laws of thermodynamic and biogenesis.
Contrary to these laws, the atheist believes that all the matter
in the Universe, as well as living things created themselves.
But the truth is that only a fool would believe such nonsense
that is contrary to known science,
How do any laws of thermodynamics, laws of biogenesis,
and known science, preclude abiogenesis, evolution, or
plate tectonics?
Life comes only from pre-existing life, and that of its
own kind.
Only as far as you have observed. That it couldn't have
happened before is your extrapolated assumption.
Post by Andrew
And the first law of thermodynamics tells us that energy
and matter cannot be created or destroyed, but that energy
can be converted to matter and matter can be converted to
energy.
In light of this, I affirm that matter was created by our
Creator who has omnipotence - unlimited energy.
Matter and energy can be interconverted but not created
nor destroyed... so, therefore, matter and life were
created by a supernatural entity?
.. who is our Creator who possesses the attribute
of *omnipotence* and power to create ex nihilo.
Are you saying only the -->Awesome Creator<-- can create
--> Ex Nihilo? Uhmm... sorry, it happens every second.
Quantum vacuum fluctuations are well known.
https://infidels.org/library/modern/mark_vuletic/vacuum.html
Problem here is that these "particles" do not have a permanent
existence in the real world, which is why they are called virtual
particles, and thus cannot be a plausible explanation for matter
comprising our mult-billion galaxy Universe.
.> Fantasized hypotheses that are contrary to established science
.> may safely be ignored by those who want the truth.
"contrary to established science"...
So, Andrew is knowledgeable about "established science",
but three well known physicists, Ed Tryon, Paul Davies, and Stephen Hawking
are apparently ignorant of it.
Gee, if I were prone to calling people fools...
Andy is the Official Establisher of Science [TINOEoS]. He
culls the establishable science from the --->fantasy as
The Lord separates the sheep from the goats.

Sometimes there's just no arguing with TRVTH. :)
Atlatl Axolotl
2017-10-11 16:57:46 UTC
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Post by Andrew
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Andrew
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Andrew
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Andrew
It has to do with the laws of thermodynamic and biogenesis.
Contrary to these laws, the atheist believes that all the matter
in the Universe, as well as living things created themselves.
But the truth is that only a fool would believe such nonsense
that is contrary to known science,
How do any laws of thermodynamics, laws of biogenesis,
and known science, preclude abiogenesis, evolution, or
plate tectonics?
Life comes only from pre-existing life, and that of its
own kind.
Only as far as you have observed. That it couldn't have
happened before is your extrapolated assumption.
Post by Andrew
And the first law of thermodynamics tells us that energy
and matter cannot be created or destroyed, but that energy
can be converted to matter and matter can be converted to
energy.
In light of this, I affirm that matter was created by our
Creator who has omnipotence - unlimited energy.
Matter and energy can be interconverted but not created
nor destroyed... so, therefore, matter and life were
created by a supernatural entity?
.. who is our Creator who possesses the attribute
of *omnipotence* and power to create ex nihilo.
Are you saying only the -->Awesome Creator<-- can create
--> Ex Nihilo? Uhmm... sorry, it happens every second.
Quantum vacuum fluctuations are well known.
.> > https://infidels.org/library/modern/mark_vuletic/vacuum.html
.> Problem here is that these "particles" do not have a permanent
.> existence in the real world, which is why they are called virtual
.> particles, and thus cannot be a plausible explanation for matter
.> comprising our mult-billion galaxy Universe.

Incorrect. Heisenberg's uncertainty principle can be expressed
in terms of time multiplied by energy. If the total energy of the
universe is zero, than the universe can live forever. And adding
up all forms of energy in the universe -- including potential energy,
which is the critical point here -- cosmologists have estimated
that this may well be the case.

I'm not even sure why I'm going to the trouble of typing
all this out again. I've explained it before, and even if you
don't remember that, it's right there in the article.
Paragraph three.

It's also explained in the comments by Edward Tryon, and reinforced
by the comments by Stephen Hawking, and in the comments
by someone you yourself often quote, Paul Davies.

Of course I may be wrong, and it may well you did read
that part, or that you do remember my previous explanations --
but you just choose to disregard that inconvenient bit.

Wouldn't be the first time.


Atlatl Axo
Post by Andrew
Post by Peter Pan
(Someone recently posted this link here, sorry i can't
remember who, but thank you.)
Yes, and that is the best you can offer, but it doesn't work in
the real world as far as the creation of matter is conserned.
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Andrew
Post by Peter Pan
I don't follow the logical leap. Can you fill in the
gaps?
Perhaps not all the gaps, but we have
enough information to know that He
is.
Are you saying the gaps are filled with Helium? Or that
it's not a logical leap you made, it's more like just
flying off the wall.
Andrew
2017-10-12 08:19:13 UTC
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Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Andrew
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Andrew
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Andrew
It has to do with the laws of thermodynamic and biogenesis.
Contrary to these laws, the atheist believes that all the matter
in the Universe, as well as living things created themselves.
But the truth is that only a fool would believe such nonsense
that is contrary to known science,
How do any laws of thermodynamics, laws of biogenesis,
and known science, preclude abiogenesis, evolution, or
plate tectonics?
Life comes only from pre-existing life, and that of its
own kind.
Only as far as you have observed. That it couldn't have
happened before is your extrapolated assumption.
Post by Andrew
And the first law of thermodynamics tells us that energy
and matter cannot be created or destroyed, but that energy
can be converted to matter and matter can be converted to
energy.
In light of this, I affirm that matter was created by our
Creator who has omnipotence - unlimited energy.
Matter and energy can be interconverted but not created
nor destroyed... so, therefore, matter and life were
created by a supernatural entity?
.. who is our Creator who possesses the attribute
of *omnipotence* and power to create ex nihilo.
Are you saying only the -->Awesome Creator<-- can create
--> Ex Nihilo? Uhmm... sorry, it happens every second.
Quantum vacuum fluctuations are well known.
.> > https://infidels.org/library/modern/mark_vuletic/vacuum.html
.> Problem here is that these "particles" do not have a permanent
.> existence in the real world, which is why they are called virtual
.> particles, and thus cannot be a plausible explanation for matter
.> comprising our mult-billion galaxy Universe.
Incorrect.
Not.
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Heisenberg's uncertainty principle can be expressed
in terms of time multiplied by energy. If the total energy of the
universe is zero, than the universe can live forever. And adding
up all forms of energy in the universe -- including potential energy,
which is the critical point here -- cosmologists have estimated
that this may well be the case.
I'm not even sure why I'm going to the trouble of typing
all this out again. I've explained it before, and even if you
don't remember that, it's right there in the article.
Paragraph three.
Yes, but you don't undestat that it is a fantacized hypothesis.
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
It's also explained in the comments by Edward Tryon, and reinforced
by the comments by Stephen Hawking, and in the comments
by someone you yourself often quote, Paul Davies.
Of course I may be wrong, and it may well you did read
that part, or that you do remember my previous explanations --
but you just choose to disregard that inconvenient bit.
No I do read it. The issue here is that I don't accept fantasy
that is contrary to established scientific laws, whereas you
do.
Atlatl Axolotl
2017-10-12 15:21:57 UTC
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Post by Andrew
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Post by Andrew
It has to do with the laws of thermodynamic and biogenesis.
Contrary to these laws, the atheist believes that all the matter
in the Universe, as well as living things created themselves.
But the truth is that only a fool would believe such nonsense
that is contrary to known science,
How do any laws of thermodynamics, laws of biogenesis,
and known science, preclude abiogenesis, evolution, or
plate tectonics?
Life comes only from pre-existing life, and that of its
own kind.
Only as far as you have observed. That it couldn't have
happened before is your extrapolated assumption.
Post by Andrew
And the first law of thermodynamics tells us that energy
and matter cannot be created or destroyed, but that energy
can be converted to matter and matter can be converted to
energy.
In light of this, I affirm that matter was created by our
Creator who has omnipotence - unlimited energy.
Matter and energy can be interconverted but not created
nor destroyed... so, therefore, matter and life were
created by a supernatural entity?
.. who is our Creator who possesses the attribute
of *omnipotence* and power to create ex nihilo.
Are you saying only the -->Awesome Creator<-- can create
--> Ex Nihilo? Uhmm... sorry, it happens every second.
Quantum vacuum fluctuations are well known.
.> > https://infidels.org/library/modern/mark_vuletic/vacuum.html
.> Problem here is that these "particles" do not have a permanent
.> existence in the real world, which is why they are called virtual
.> particles, and thus cannot be a plausible explanation for matter
.> comprising our mult-billion galaxy Universe.
Incorrect.
Not.
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Heisenberg's uncertainty principle can be expressed
in terms of time multiplied by energy. If the total energy of the
universe is zero, than the universe can live forever. And adding
up all forms of energy in the universe -- including potential energy,
which is the critical point here -- cosmologists have estimated
that this may well be the case.
I'm not even sure why I'm going to the trouble of typing
all this out again. I've explained it before, and even if you
don't remember that, it's right there in the article.
Paragraph three.
Yes, but you don't undestat that it is a fantacized hypothesis.
.> > It's also explained in the comments by Edward Tryon, and reinforced
.> > by the comments by Stephen Hawking, and in the comments
.> > by someone you yourself often quote, Paul Davies.
Post by Andrew
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Of course I may be wrong, and it may well you did read
that part, or that you do remember my previous explanations --
but you just choose to disregard that inconvenient bit.
. No I do read it. The issue here is that I don't accept fantasy
.> that is contrary to established scientific laws, whereas you
.> do.


Funny how all three of those well known physicists aren't
aware of "established scientific laws", and yet you are.

I think it is your Christian duty to straighten these scientists
out. Point out where they have veered off into ---> fantasy.

Since you've quoted Paul Davies with approval in the past,
you probably should start with him, do him the favor of pointing out his
errors to him first, before you turn your attention to Stephen Hawking.

Here's Davies email address:

***@asu.edu

Do tell us of his response, won't you? I'd be quite interested.


Atlatl Axo
TheRealMccoy
2017-10-12 15:25:29 UTC
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before you turn your attention to Stephen Hawking.
Stephen hawking does not understand how time travel is possible, and you already know it is so why would you reference him, oh yeah, because you have been bulling ignorant naive people here deceiving them with your words to cause confusion and lord it over them ...
TheRealMccoy
2017-10-12 15:26:08 UTC
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Post by Atlatl Axolotl
before you turn your attention to Stephen Hawking.
Stephen hawking does not understand how time travel is possible, and you already know it is so why would you reference him, oh yeah, because you have been bulling ignorant naive people here deceiving them with your words to cause confusion and lord it over them ...
bullying
Jeanne Douglas
2017-10-09 21:34:43 UTC
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Remember their delusion about the "scientific method." Instead of reading
THE TEXT for comprehension, they toss around the term 'scientific method'
without even thinking of what's being said. Ah, human nature and his desire
to feel important. LOL
.> What the fuck are you babbling about now?
Science. Mind you, he doesn't actually know anything about science, but
by golly, he sure knows he doesn't like it.
Just one more data point showing that those who shriek loudest about
science around here are the ones who are the most clueless about it.
Indeed.
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Yap Honghor
2017-10-09 07:48:44 UTC
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8 Now it came to pass, afterward, that He went through every city and village, preaching and bringing the glad tidings of the kingdom of God. And the twelve were with Him, 2 and certain women who had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities—Mary called Magdalene, out of whom had come seven demons, 3 and Joanna the wife of Chuza, Herod’s steward, and Susanna, and many others who provided for Him[a] from their substance.
Interesting. We are told that women provided assist, out of their substance, to Jesus. We are also told that one Joanna, the wife of Chuza, Herod's steward was there. This is really significant. However, with this fact the scripture doesn't mention this over and over again. We aren't given any more information about Joanna, the wife of Chuza, Herod's steward. The wife of a steward of a Roman government official.
If you'd ask me this smacks of a real account, not fiction. Fiction would have gone on and on about this. But this is just of the iceberg in regards to what gives the gospel accounts authenticity.
What type of fucking fiction is that?
Illogical bullshit.....those characters, their actions, etc were all meaningless and stupid. Only the donkey brains will believe a word of it!!
Peter Pan
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8 Now it came to pass, afterward, that He went through every city and village, preaching and bringing the glad tidings of the kingdom of God. And the twelve were with Him, 2 and certain women who had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities—Mary called Magdalene, out of whom had come seven demons, 3 and Joanna the wife of Chuza, Herod’s steward, and Susanna, and many others who provided for Him[a] from their substance.
Interesting. We are told that women provided assist, out of their substance, to Jesus. We are also told that one Joanna, the wife of Chuza, Herod's steward was there. This is really significant. However, with this fact the scripture doesn't mention this over and over again. We aren't given any more information about Joanna, the wife of Chuza, Herod's steward. The wife of a steward of a Roman government official.
If you'd ask me this smacks of a real account, not fiction. Fiction would have gone on and on about this. But this is just of the iceberg in regards to what gives the gospel accounts authenticity.
Soo, you're saying the lack of detail proves the story
must really be true!

Did you OD on your gullible pills?
TheRealMccoy
2017-10-10 01:05:36 UTC
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Go read verses 21 28 & 30
Smiler
2017-10-10 20:43:51 UTC
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Go read verses 21 28 & 30
Since when has reading been believing, convicted criminal Yost?
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