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2018-03-06 04:40:08 UTC
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Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect. I take solace in knowing that no matter what tragedy befalls me, the aftermath will not last forever.

We live in a horrific world--but not the most horrific of all possible worlds. Not by a long shot.
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2018-03-06 05:01:33 UTC
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You don't like dogs.
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2018-03-06 05:12:55 UTC
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Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect. I take solace in
knowing that no matter what tragedy befalls me, the aftermath will
not last forever.
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We live in a horrific world--but not the most horrific of all
possible worlds. Not by a long shot.

I seen a Godzilla movie once & that was lot's worse.
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Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect. I take solace in
knowing that no matter what tragedy befalls me, the aftermath will
not last forever.
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We live in a horrific world--but not the most horrific of all
possible worlds. Not by a long shot.

-I seen a Godzilla movie once & that was lot's worse.

Which one?
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2018-03-06 07:07:31 UTC
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Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect. I take solace in
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not last forever.
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We live in a horrific world--but not the most horrific of all
possible worlds. Not by a long shot.
I seen a Godzilla movie once & that was lot's worse.
lol
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Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect. I take solace in
knowing that no matter what tragedy befalls me, the aftermath will
not last forever.
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We live in a horrific world--but not the most horrific of all
possible worlds. Not by a long shot.
I seen a Godzilla movie once & that was lot's worse.
lol
I knew you were kewl. :)
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2018-03-06 09:37:50 UTC
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Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect. I take solace in knowing that no matter what tragedy befalls me, the aftermath will not last forever.
We live in a horrific world--but not the most horrific of all possible worlds. Not by a long shot.
Those stupid believers think they can have a eternal life after death....

They don't realize that death from accidents give them twisted or smashed bodies to which they are painful for eternity. Or that bed ridden during a stroke to carry to the next life for eternity....

Any one wants to have such a pain or incapacitated state for eternity????
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2018-03-06 14:09:02 UTC
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Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect. I take solace in knowing that no matter what tragedy befalls me, the aftermath will not last forever.
We live in a horrific world--but not the most horrific of all possible worlds. Not by a long shot.
-Those stupid believers think they can have a eternal life after death....

They don't realize that death from accidents give them twisted or smashed bodies to which they are painful for eternity. Or that bed ridden during a stroke to carry to the next life for eternity....

-Any one wants to have such a pain or incapacitated state for eternity????

There's a lot of tools out there for different types of work. You don't know if such tools exist unless you investigate. Nobody is going to do the investigation for you. And so it is with Eternal Life.
Yap Honghor
2018-03-06 23:19:07 UTC
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Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect. I take solace in knowing that no matter what tragedy befalls me, the aftermath will not last forever.
We live in a horrific world--but not the most horrific of all possible worlds. Not by a long shot.
-Those stupid believers think they can have a eternal life after death....
They don't realize that death from accidents give them twisted or smashed bodies to which they are painful for eternity. Or that bed ridden during a stroke to carry to the next life for eternity....
-Any one wants to have such a pain or incapacitated state for eternity????
There's a lot of tools out there for different types of work. You don't know if such tools exist unless you investigate. Nobody is going to do the investigation for you. And so it is with Eternal Life.
No.
You would ask, why should I chop my woods instead of using a electric saw.
First, there is no electricity in my cabin.
Second, by chopping, I have exercise.
Thirdly, there is no hand to hire.
So, AmazingStupid, what tool you are proposing???????????

Then again, you will find yourself headless or bedridden in your eternal life...the condition of your ending when departing this world.
Good luck with your wish to have eternal unenviable life....
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Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect. I take solace in knowing that no matter what tragedy befalls me, the aftermath will not last forever.
We live in a horrific world--but not the most horrific of all possible worlds. Not by a long shot.
-Those stupid believers think they can have a eternal life after death....
They don't realize that death from accidents give them twisted or smashed bodies to which they are painful for eternity. Or that bed ridden during a stroke to carry to the next life for eternity....
-Any one wants to have such a pain or incapacitated state for eternity????
There's a lot of tools out there for different types of work. You don't know if such tools exist unless you investigate. Nobody is going to do the investigation for you. And so it is with Eternal Life.
No.
You would ask, why should I chop my woods instead of using a electric saw.
First, there is no electricity in my cabin.
Second, by chopping, I have exercise.
Thirdly, there is no hand to hire.
So, AmazingStupid, what tool you are proposing???????????
In that case I suggest that you hunch your back over, peel a banana and go ook ook - eek eek.
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Then again, you will find yourself headless or bedridden in your eternal life...the condition of your ending when departing this world.
Good luck with your wish to have eternal unenviable life....
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2018-03-06 13:02:05 UTC
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Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect. I take solace in
knowing that no matter what tragedy befalls me, the aftermath will not
last forever.
The heat death of the universe assures that will not be the case, even if
consciousness could somehow take place without neurons made of matter,
because information is bound up with thermodynamics.
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2018-03-06 15:34:46 UTC
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Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect. I take solace in
knowing that no matter what tragedy befalls me, the aftermath will not
last forever.
The heat death of the universe assures that will not be the case, even if
consciousness could somehow take place without neurons made of matter,
because information is bound up with thermodynamics.
--
https://twitter.com/LinuxGal
That's a relief!
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2018-03-07 00:14:29 UTC
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Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect. I take solace in
knowing that no matter what tragedy befalls me, the aftermath will not
last forever.
The heat death of the universe assures that will not be the case, even if
consciousness could somehow take place without neurons made of matter,
because information is bound up with thermodynamics.
--
https://twitter.com/LinuxGal
That's a relief!
Yeah, and hell can't stay hot forever.

Angels won't be so lucky. When their clouds fall out of
the sky, they will have to play their harps sitting on
black holes.
Jahnu
2018-03-07 00:23:45 UTC
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Angels won't be so lucky. When their clouds fall out of
the sky, they will have to play their harps sitting on
black holes.
What is God made of?

A question a thoughtful person might ask is, what is God made of? The
Vedic version teaches us that God is made of eternity, knowledge, and
bliss. Note how ingenious this definition of God is. As usual the
Vedic version reigns supreme.

Brahma, god of creation, says:

Krishna who is known as Govinda is the Supreme Godhead. He has an
eternal blissful spiritual body. He is the origin of all. He has no
other origin and He is the prime cause of all causes.

=> Brahma-samhita, 5.1

It also makes perfect sense that eternity, knowledge and bliss is the
substance of God. We can test it on ourselves. As souls, ie. atomic
fragments of God, we consist of the same spiritual substance as God,
and this fact should be somehow measurable. It's like, by examining
one drop of the ocean one gets an understanding of the entire ocean.
The very fact that all living entities instinctively gravitate towards
these three factors, indicates that this is our natural state. All
living entities seek eternity, knowledge, and bliss. We all have the
distinct experience that these three are the prime moving factors of
our core existence.

We are all pleasure seeking. We all try to learn something. And we all
try to preserve our being. Some people say - I don't seek eternity. It
must become boring in eternity. But we all seek eternity in the sense
that we try to preserve our being. The survival instinct together with
the mating instinct are the strongest instincts in all living
entities.

Besides, boredom is a factor of material existence, As souls on the
spiritual plane we will never get bored playing with Krishna. Who
would not want to be eternally young and blissful? Does anyone want
his or her happiness to end, because it's just so boring being happy?
The only reason one would want his existence to end is if it's
miserable.

In reality we are happy all the time. Who wants bliss to end? Who sits
in a real happy frame of mind, and thinks - gee, I wish this happiness
would end... nobody does that. Thus it is a direct observable fact
that all living entities gravitate towards eternity, knowledge and
bliss, exactly as predicted in the Vedic version.

By connecting with our real identities as souls we become re-situated
in God's substance of eternity, knowledge and bliss. By connecting
with our real selves we connect with eternity, knowledge and bliss.The
method to do so is to invoke the name of God and petition Him. This is
done in this age by chanting the Hare Krishna Mantra.

hare krsna hare krsna krsna krsna hare hare
hare rama hare rama rama rama hare hare

"This mantra, consisting of 16 words and 32 syllables, is the only
means against evil in this age. After searching through all the Vedic
literature, one cannot find a method of religion more sublime for this
age than the chanting of Hare Krsna."

--- Kali-santarana Upanishad

https://www.youtube.com/user/jahnudvip?feature=watch

https://picasaweb.google.com/113672947796865733014/Jahnu

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2018-03-07 01:58:23 UTC
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Angels won't be so lucky. When their clouds fall out of
the sky, they will have to play their harps sitting on
black holes.
What is God made of?
Human brain wave !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by Jahnu
A question a thoughtful person might ask is, what is God made of? The
Vedic version teaches us that God is made of eternity, knowledge, and
bliss. Note how ingenious this definition of God is. As usual the
Vedic version reigns supreme.
Brahma, krishna, and Buddha did not create anything!!!!
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Krishna who is known as Govinda is the Supreme Godhead. He has an
eternal blissful spiritual body. He is the origin of all. He has no
other origin and He is the prime cause of all causes.
=> Brahma-samhita, 5.1
It also makes perfect sense that eternity, knowledge and bliss is the
substance of God. We can test it on ourselves. As souls, ie. atomic
fragments of God, we consist of the same spiritual substance as God,
and this fact should be somehow measurable. It's like, by examining
one drop of the ocean one gets an understanding of the entire ocean.
The very fact that all living entities instinctively gravitate towards
these three factors, indicates that this is our natural state. All
living entities seek eternity, knowledge, and bliss. We all have the
distinct experience that these three are the prime moving factors of
our core existence.
We are all pleasure seeking. We all try to learn something. And we all
try to preserve our being. Some people say - I don't seek eternity. It
must become boring in eternity. But we all seek eternity in the sense
that we try to preserve our being. The survival instinct together with
the mating instinct are the strongest instincts in all living
entities.
Besides, boredom is a factor of material existence, As souls on the
spiritual plane we will never get bored playing with Krishna. Who
would not want to be eternally young and blissful? Does anyone want
his or her happiness to end, because it's just so boring being happy?
The only reason one would want his existence to end is if it's
miserable.
In reality we are happy all the time. Who wants bliss to end? Who sits
in a real happy frame of mind, and thinks - gee, I wish this happiness
would end... nobody does that. Thus it is a direct observable fact
that all living entities gravitate towards eternity, knowledge and
bliss, exactly as predicted in the Vedic version.
By connecting with our real identities as souls we become re-situated
in God's substance of eternity, knowledge and bliss. By connecting
with our real selves we connect with eternity, knowledge and bliss.The
method to do so is to invoke the name of God and petition Him. This is
done in this age by chanting the Hare Krishna Mantra.
hare krsna hare krsna krsna krsna hare hare
hare rama hare rama rama rama hare hare
"This mantra, consisting of 16 words and 32 syllables, is the only
means against evil in this age. After searching through all the Vedic
literature, one cannot find a method of religion more sublime for this
age than the chanting of Hare Krsna."
--- Kali-santarana Upanishad
https://www.youtube.com/user/jahnudvip?feature=watch
https://picasaweb.google.com/113672947796865733014/Jahnu
http://www.touchtalent.com//artist/118705/jahnu-das
http://youtu.be/B46rjU_q_cM
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2018-03-07 04:32:11 UTC
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Brahma, krishna, and Buddha did not create anything!!!!
You wish...

Nobody is able to distinguish reality from illusion unless there is a
God to do it for you. If there is no God, reality will never rise
above relative human speculation. And if there is a God, He can tell
you the truth about life. It's as simple as that.

Krishna, being God, is the only person on the planet who has ever
attempted to define reality as opposed to unreality, which He does in
Bhagavad Gita.

Krishna says:

Those who are seers of the truth have concluded that of the
non-existent [the material body] there is no endurance and of the
eternal [the soul] there is no change. This they have concluded by
studying the nature of both. (Bg. 2.16)

So according to Krishna's definition, reality is that which is eternal
and unreality, or illusion, is that which is temporary. Note that
illusion does exist, but it is unreal in the sense that it's not
eternal. Someone may object - if I smash my head into a wall, the pain
I feel is very real. How can it not be real? But if seen in the light
of eternity it is not real. Illusion exists, but the reason it is not
considered real is because it is not eternal. It's like a dream.

A dream happens, but when we wake up, we understand it was not real.
Life in a material body is like that - dream-like. We'll realize that,
if not before, then at the time of death. Death will be a rude
awakening for the atheist.

So reality and illusion is defined by time. One is eternal the other
is temporary. And if you think about it, it makes sense. Anything seen
in the light of eternity will be manifested for such a short time,
that it is as if it didn't really happen.

Brahma, the god of creation, is said to live as long as the universe
lasts - which is calculated to be 311 trillion solar years. So if you
live for such an unfathomable length of time, then imagine what a
person's life-span on earth of, say, 80 years must look like. I don't
even live for a second from Brahma's point of view. How real would a
person be to you if he existed for only a second? Think about it.

If you take 80 years out of 311 trillion years it is such a miniscule
portion of time, that for all practical purposes it might as well not
have happened. But then, if you take Brahma's lifespan and compare it
to eternal time, it is just as little. However long time is taken out
of eternal time, it will still amount to nothing.

The duration of the universe will make a lifespan on earth seem
completely insignificant, and the cosmic time of millions, billions,
and trillions of years seem totally inconsequential and insignificant
from the point of view of eternal time. So from the point of view of
eternity, anything that is not eternal is but an illusory glimpse.

That's how one can understand that anything which has a beginning and
an end is illusory. Only that which is eternal is real. Now, in this
world, what is then real, someone might ask. We don't have any
experience of something that lasts forever, do we? Yes we do. The only
thing, that lasts forever is the soul - ie. consciousness. The soul is
eternal, so in the material world the only real thing is the soul,
everything else is temporary and thus illusory.

That's why self-realization, according to Vaishnava theology, means to
realize one's eternal self beyond the temporary body and mind. Krishna
gives a brilliant argument in the Bhagavad Gita to help a thoughtful
person experience his eternal self.

A person's body goes through different stages of infancy, childhood,
youth, old age and finally death. But during all these changes of the
body and the mind, the self (the inner sense of I-feeling) or the
inner observer remains constant. That's one way we can logically
understand we are eternal.

The human life-form is unique in the sense that it allows the self to
understand its own eternality. So the purpose of human life is to
connect with the eternal self. If one is simply absorbed in the body
and its demands, one is wasting this valuable opportunity - an
opportunity that is only available in the human life-form. Eating,
sleeping, mating and defending, the soul can do in any life-form, but
only in the human form can the self connect with eternity, ie.
reality.

Krishna says:

Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these
kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be. (Bg 2.12)

As the embodied soul continuously passes, in this body, from boyhood
to youth to old age, the soul similarly passes into another body at
death. A sober person is not bewildered by such a change. (Bg 2.13)

I am never manifest to the foolish and unintelligent. For them I am
covered by My internal potency, and therefore they do not know that I
am unborn and infallible.(Bg. 7.25)

https://www.youtube.com/user/jahnudvip?feature=watch

https://picasaweb.google.com/113672947796865733014/Jahnu

http://www.touchtalent.com//artist/118705/jahnu-das

http://youtu.be/B46rjU_q_cM
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Brahma, krishna, and Buddha did not create anything!!!!
You wish...
Nobody is able to distinguish reality from illusion unless there is a
God to do it for you. If there is no God, reality will never rise
above relative human speculation. And if there is a God, He can tell
you the truth about life. It's as simple as that.
Well if it were as simple as that, why did you feel the need to
include all the other bullshit you posted?

For me, I'll just muddle along the best I can in my illusionary world
without men, telling me about gods, telling me what's what.
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2018-03-09 08:40:41 UTC
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Well if it were as simple as that, why did you feel the need to
include all the other bullshit you posted?
Because I know how dense you are. As an atheist you have chosen stupid
over intelligent because your consciousness is bare evolved over the
baanaimal stage, yet.

Atheists have unevolved intellects and minds. That's whay they are
such miserable bastards.

It's actually a statistic fact, that the more godless a sociecty is,
the more insanity, depressesion, crime, murder, rape and alcohol
iincrease in that society.

And before you start shrilling - most Christians and Muhammedans are
godless scum like you.

If God really exists why do all the violence happen?

When humanity collectively choose to live a godless life, the world
becomes a violent affair. The violence in the world is a direct result
of the violent activities performed by humans.

As long as there are slaughter-houses, there will be battlefields. A
vegetarian diet is the acid test of humanitarian. -- Leo Tolstoy
Millions of highly sentient living entities are being slaughtered by
the millions, daily, in high-tech death factories the world over
Who could possibly think there would be no karmic repercussions to
such senseless mass-murder?

Every second on this planet 7000 chicken are being killed by humans
for food. Every second, somewhere in the world a woman or a child is
being raped or murdered. Add to that the billions of cows, pigs and
goats that are being slaughtered every year.

If there is no God, these murders are all just random events that
happen for no other reason than human lust, anger and greed.
If there is God, however, the violence in the world is obviously the
karmic reactions to the violence humans inflict on other living
beings. The modern global culture is a set up of pure evil - viewing
animals as nothing more than meat-racks to be sliced up and consumed.
Naturally, such evil will be punished . We punish ourselves by our
godless activities. God has given us the world to make either heaven
or hell out of, how we use our free will, God couldn't care less.
He has created the law of cause and effect - karma - what we do with
it is up to us.

God forces nobody to be good and act virtuously. Whether good or bad,
it is a person's own doing and God has nothing to do with it.

Krishna says:

O son of Pritha, there is no work prescribed for Me within all the
three planetary systems. Nor am I in want of anything, nor have I a
need to obtain anything - and yet I am engaged in prescribed duties. -
Bg 3.22

For if I ever failed to engage in carefully performing prescribed
duties, O Partha, certainly all men would follow My path. - Bg 3.23

Srila Prabhupada explains:

The Supreme Personality of Godhead is described in the Vedic
literatures as follows:

"The Supreme Lord is the controller of all other controllers, and He
is the greatest of all the diverse planetary leaders. Everyone is
under His control. All entities are delegated with particular power
only by the Supreme Lord; they are not supreme themselves.

"He is also worshipable by all demigods and is the supreme director of
all directors. Therefore, He is transcendental to all kinds of
material leaders and controllers and is worshipable by all. There is
no one greater than Him, and He is the supreme cause of all causes.
"He does not possess bodily form like that of an ordinary living
entity. There is no difference between His body and His soul. He is
absolute. All His senses are transcendental. Any one of His senses can
perform the action of any other sense. Therefore, no one is greater
than Him or equal to Him. His potencies are multifarious, and thus His
deeds are automatically performed as a natural sequence."
(Svetasvatara Upanisad 6.7-8)

Since everything is in full opulence in the Personality of Godhead and
is existing in full truth, there is no duty for the Supreme
Personality of Godhead to perform.

One who must receive the results of work has some designated duty, but
one who has nothing to achieve within the three planetary systems
certainly has no duty.

And yet Lord Krishna is engaged on the Battlefield of Kuruksetra as
the leader of the kshatriyas because the kshatriyas are duty-bound to
give protection to the distressed. Although He is above all the
regulations of the revealed scriptures, He does not do anything that
violates the revealed scriptures.




https://www.youtube.com/user/jahnudvip?feature=watch

https://picasaweb.google.com/113672947796865733014/Jahnu

http://www.touchtalent.com//artist/118705/jahnu-das

http://youtu.be/B46rjU_q_cM
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Well if it were as simple as that, why did you feel the need to
include all the other bullshit you posted?
Because I know how dense you are. As an atheist you have chosen stupid
over intelligent because your consciousness is bare evolved over the
baanaimal stage, yet.
Atheists have unevolved intellects and minds. That's whay they are
such miserable bastards.
It's actually a statistic fact, that the more godless a sociecty is,
the more insanity, depressesion, crime, murder, rape and alcohol
iincrease in that society.
And before you start shrilling - most Christians and Muhammedans are
godless scum like you.
If God really exists why do all the violence happen?
Yeah, why do it?

Religion is one of the problems not the solution you think it is.

Of course you do have a point in there somewhere. If, for instance,
all the world embraced a single religion, we'd have the imams,
swamies, priests or rabbis telling people how to behave and they
(presumably) would do it. No chance for rancor strife or
dissension... right? So what should it matter who's idea of god is
paramount?

The fact is we are humans and survived this far by meeting adversity
and competition and overcoming it with force. That's both our legacy
and our weakness.

The survival advantage, becomes a liability when we choose to
reproduce without limit.

And you think that if you preach a bunch of happy horse-shit at us,
utopia is just around the corner? Now who are you calling stupid?
Atheists? Buy yourself a mirror and get professional help sonny.
Post by Jahnu
When humanity collectively choose to live a godless life, the world
becomes a violent affair. The violence in the world is a direct result
of the violent activities performed by humans.
As long as there are slaughter-houses, there will be battlefields. A
vegetarian diet is the acid test of humanitarian. -- Leo Tolstoy
Millions of highly sentient living entities are being slaughteredescentiond by
the millions, daily, in high-tech death factories the world over
Who could possibly think there would be no karmic repercussions to
such senseless mass-murder?
Every second on this planet 7000 chicken are being killed by humans
for food. Every second, somewhere in the world a woman or a child is
being raped or murdered. Add to that the billions of cows, pigs and
goats that are being slaughtered every year.
If there is no God, these murders are all just random events that
happen for no other reason than human lust, anger and greed.
If there is God, however, the violence in the world is obviously the
karmic reactions to the violence humans inflict on other living
beings. The modern global culture is a set up of pure evil - viewing
animals as nothing more than meat-racks to be sliced up and consumed.
Naturally, such evil will be punished . We punish ourselves by our
godless activities. God has given us the world to make either heaven
or hell out of, how we use our free will, God couldn't care less.
He has created the law of cause and effect - karma - what we do with
it is up to us.
God forces nobody to be good and act virtuously. Whether good or bad,
it is a person's own doing and God has nothing to do with it.
O son of Pritha, there is no work prescribed for Me within all the
three planetary systems. Nor am I in want of anything, nor have I a
need to obtain anything - and yet I am engaged in prescribed duties. -
Bg 3.22
For if I ever failed to engage in carefully performing prescribed
duties, O Partha, certainly all men would follow My path. - Bg 3.23
The Supreme Personality of Godhead is described in the Vedic
"The Supreme Lord is the controller of all other controllers, and He
is the greatest of all the diverse planetary leaders. Everyone is
under His control. All entities are delegated with particular power
only by the Supreme Lord; they are not supreme themselves.
"He is also worshipable by all demigods and is the supreme director of
all directors. Therefore, He is transcendental to all kinds of
material leaders and controllers and is worshipable by all. There is
no one greater than Him, and He is the supreme cause of all causes.
"He does not possess bodily form like that of an ordinary living
entity. There is no difference between His body and His soul. He is
absolute. All His senses are transcendental. Any one of His senses can
perform the action of any other sense. Therefore, no one is greater
than Him or equal to Him. His potencies are multifarious, and thus His
deeds are automatically performed as a natural sequence."
(Svetasvatara Upanisad 6.7-8)
Since everything is in full opulence in the Personality of Godhead and
is existing in full truth, there is no duty for the Supreme
Personality of Godhead to perform.
One who must receive the results of work has some designated duty, but
one who has nothing to achieve within the three planetary systems
certainly has no duty.
And yet Lord Krishna is engaged on the Battlefield of Kuruksetra as
the leader of the kshatriyas because the kshatriyas are duty-bound to
give protection to the distressed. Although He is above all the
regulations of the revealed scriptures, He does not do anything that
violates the revealed scriptures.
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You wish...

Nobody is able to distinguish reality from illusion unless there is a
God to do it for you. If there is no God, reality will never rise
above relative human speculation. And if there is a God, He can tell
you the truth about life. It's as simple as that.

Krishna, being God, is the only person on the planet who has ever
attempted to define reality as opposed to unreality, which He does in
Bhagavad Gita.

Krishna says:

Those who are seers of the truth have concluded that of the
non-existent [the material body] there is no endurance and of the
eternal [the soul] there is no change. This they have concluded by
studying the nature of both. (Bg. 2.16)

So according to Krishna's definition, reality is that which is eternal
and unreality, or illusion, is that which is temporary. Note that
illusion does exist, but it is unreal in the sense that it's not
eternal. Someone may object - if I smash my head into a wall, the pain
I feel is very real. How can it not be real? But if seen in the light
of eternity it is not real. Illusion exists, but the reason it is not
considered real is because it is not eternal. It's like a dream.

A dream happens, but when we wake up, we understand it was not real.
Life in a material body is like that - dream-like. We'll realize that,
if not before, then at the time of death. Death will be a rude
awakening for the atheist.

So reality and illusion is defined by time. One is eternal the other
is temporary. And if you think about it, it makes sense. Anything seen
in the light of eternity will be manifested for such a short time,
that it is as if it didn't really happen.

Brahma, the god of creation, is said to live as long as the universe
lasts - which is calculated to be 311 trillion solar years. So if you
live for such an unfathomable length of time, then imagine what a
person's life-span on earth of, say, 80 years must look like. I don't
even live for a second from Brahma's point of view. How real would a
person be to you if he existed for only a second? Think about it.

If you take 80 years out of 311 trillion years it is such a miniscule
portion of time, that for all practical purposes it might as well not
have happened. But then, if you take Brahma's lifespan and compare it
to eternal time, it is just as little. However long time is taken out
of eternal time, it will still amount to nothing.

The duration of the universe will make a lifespan on earth seem
completely insignificant, and the cosmic time of millions, billions,
and trillions of years seem totally inconsequential and insignificant
from the point of view of eternal time. So from the point of view of
eternity, anything that is not eternal is but an illusory glimpse.

That's how one can understand that anything which has a beginning and
an end is illusory. Only that which is eternal is real. Now, in this
world, what is then real, someone might ask. We don't have any
experience of something that lasts forever, do we? Yes we do. The only
thing, that lasts forever is the soul - ie. consciousness. The soul is
eternal, so in the material world the only real thing is the soul,
everything else is temporary and thus illusory.

That's why self-realization, according to Vaishnava theology, means to
realize one's eternal self beyond the temporary body and mind. Krishna
gives a brilliant argument in the Bhagavad Gita to help a thoughtful
person experience his eternal self.

A person's body goes through different stages of infancy, childhood,
youth, old age and finally death. But during all these changes of the
body and the mind, the self (the inner sense of I-feeling) or the
inner observer remains constant. That's one way we can logically
understand we are eternal.

The human life-form is unique in the sense that it allows the self to
understand its own eternality. So the purpose of human life is to
connect with the eternal self. If one is simply absorbed in the body
and its demands, one is wasting this valuable opportunity - an
opportunity that is only available in the human life-form. Eating,
sleeping, mating and defending, the soul can do in any life-form, but
only in the human form can the self connect with eternity, ie.
reality.

Krishna says:

Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these
kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be. (Bg 2.12)

As the embodied soul continuously passes, in this body, from boyhood
to youth to old age, the soul similarly passes into another body at
death. A sober person is not bewildered by such a change. (Bg 2.13)

I am never manifest to the foolish and unintelligent. For them I am
covered by My internal potency, and therefore they do not know that I
am unborn and infallible.(Bg. 7.25)

https://www.youtube.com/user/jahnudvip?feature=watch

https://picasaweb.google.com/113672947796865733014/Jahnu

http://www.touchtalent.com//artist/118705/jahnu-das

http://youtu.be/B46rjU_q_cM
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2018-03-07 14:32:36 UTC
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What is God made of?
A question a thoughtful person might ask is, what is God made of? The
Vedic version teaches us that God is made of eternity, knowledge, and
bliss. Note how ingenious this definition of God is. As usual the
Vedic version reigns supreme.
An ingenious evasion, but ingenious certainly.

Reminds me of the magic cord Glepnir that bound Fenris. Woven of _abstractions_, like:

The sound of a cat's footfall.
The beard of a woman.
The roots of a mountain.
The breath of a fish.

This strikes me as code for saying that the cord itself is an abstraction, existing only at the mental, not the physical level.

The cord, I suspect, represents what we call civilisation.
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An ingenious evasion, but ingenious certainly.
Nobody is able to distinguish reality from illusion unless there is a
God to do it for you. If there is no God, reality will never rise
above relative human speculation. And if there is a God, He can tell
you the truth about life. It's as simple as that.

Krishna, being God, is the only person on the planet who has ever
attempted to define reality as opposed to unreality, which He does in
Bhagavad Gita.

Krishna says:

Those who are seers of the truth have concluded that of the
non-existent [the material body] there is no endurance and of the
eternal [the soul] there is no change. This they have concluded by
studying the nature of both. (Bg. 2.16)

So according to Krishna's definition, reality is that which is eternal
and unreality, or illusion, is that which is temporary. Note that
illusion does exist, but it is unreal in the sense that it's not
eternal. Someone may object - if I smash my head into a wall, the pain
I feel is very real. How can it not be real? But if seen in the light
of eternity it is not real. Illusion exists, but the reason it is not
considered real is because it is not eternal. It's like a dream.

A dream happens, but when we wake up, we understand it was not real.
Life in a material body is like that - dream-like. We'll realize that,
if not before, then at the time of death. Death will be a rude
awakening for the atheist.

So reality and illusion is defined by time. One is eternal the other
is temporary. And if you think about it, it makes sense. Anything seen
in the light of eternity will be manifested for such a short time,
that it is as if it didn't really happen.

Brahma, the god of creation, is said to live as long as the universe
lasts - which is calculated to be 311 trillion solar years. So if you
live for such an unfathomable length of time, then imagine what a
person's life-span on earth of, say, 80 years must look like. I don't
even live for a second from Brahma's point of view. How real would a
person be to you if he existed for only a second? Think about it.

If you take 80 years out of 311 trillion years it is such a miniscule
portion of time, that for all practical purposes it might as well not
have happened. But then, if you take Brahma's lifespan and compare it
to eternal time, it is just as little. However long time is taken out
of eternal time, it will still amount to nothing.

The duration of the universe will make a lifespan on earth seem
completely insignificant, and the cosmic time of millions, billions,
and trillions of years seem totally inconsequential and insignificant
from the point of view of eternal time. So from the point of view of
eternity, anything that is not eternal is but an illusory glimpse.

That's how one can understand that anything which has a beginning and
an end is illusory. Only that which is eternal is real. Now, in this
world, what is then real, someone might ask. We don't have any
experience of something that lasts forever, do we? Yes we do.

The only thing, that lasts forever is the soul - ie. consciousness.
The soul is eternal, so in the material world the only real thing is
the soul, everything else is temporary and thus illusory.

That's why self-realization, according to Vaishnava theology, means to
realize one's eternal self beyond the temporary body and mind. Krishna
gives a brilliant argument in the Bhagavad Gita to help a thoughtful
person experience his eternal self. A person's body goes through
different stages of infancy, childhood, youth, old age and finally
death.

But during all these changes of the body and the mind, the self (the
inner sense of I-feeling) or the inner observer remains constant.
That's one way we can logically understand we are eternal.

The human life-form is unique in the sense that it allows the self to
understand its own eternality. So the purpose of human life is to
connect with the eternal self. If one is simply absorbed in the body
and its demands, one is wasting this valuable opportunity - an
opportunity that is only available in the human life-form. Eating,
sleeping, mating and defending, the soul can do in any life-form, but
only in the human form can the self connect with eternity, ie.
reality.

Krishna says:

Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these
kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be. (Bg 2.12)

As the embodied soul continuously passes, in this body, from boyhood
to youth to old age, the soul similarly passes into another body at
death. A sober person is not bewildered by such a change. (Bg 2.13)

I am never manifest to the foolish and unintelligent. For them I am
covered by My internal potency, and therefore they do not know that I
am unborn and infallible.(Bg. 7.25)

https://www.youtube.com/user/jahnudvip?feature=watch

https://picasaweb.google.com/113672947796865733014/Jahnu

http://www.touchtalent.com//artist/118705/jahnu-das

http://youtu.be/B46rjU_q_cM
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Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect. I take solace in
knowing that no matter what tragedy befalls me, the aftermath will not
last forever.
The heat death of the universe assures that will not be the case, even if
consciousness could somehow take place without neurons made of matter,
because information is bound up with thermodynamics.
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That's a relief!
Yeah, and hell can't stay hot forever.
Angels won't be so lucky. When their clouds fall out of
the sky, they will have to play their harps sitting on
black holes.
Awesome!
aaa
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Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect. I take solace in
knowing that no matter what tragedy befalls me, the aftermath will not
last forever.
The heat death of the universe assures that will not be the case, even if
consciousness could somehow take place without neurons made of matter,
because information is bound up with thermodynamics.
The heat death would be the freezing hell. The black hole would be the
burning hell. Any soul that is attached to the material existence would
be frozen first and burned later until the ultimate end of universe when
all matters are destroyed by the black hole to be turned into energy.
The soul is spiritual. The spiritual existence is its true home. When
the soul mistakes the physical existence as its home, it will not be
able to go back to the spiritual existence. So the eternal hell until
the end of universe would be its only destiny.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
Yap Honghor
2018-03-06 23:22:26 UTC
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Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect. I take solace in
knowing that no matter what tragedy befalls me, the aftermath will not
last forever.
The heat death of the universe assures that will not be the case, even if
consciousness could somehow take place without neurons made of matter,
because information is bound up with thermodynamics.
The heat death would be the freezing hell. The black hole would be the
burning hell. Any soul that is attached to the material existence would
be frozen first and burned later until the ultimate end of universe when
all matters are destroyed by the black hole to be turned into energy.
The soul is spiritual. The spiritual existence is its true home. When
the soul mistakes the physical existence as its home, it will not be
able to go back to the spiritual existence. So the eternal hell until
the end of universe would be its only destiny.
Another idea from aaa that is from the ass.
If you can think and speak nonsense, there is no reason that you reject our view!!!!
aaa
2018-03-07 04:59:48 UTC
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Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect. I take solace in
knowing that no matter what tragedy befalls me, the aftermath will not
last forever.
The heat death of the universe assures that will not be the case, even if
consciousness could somehow take place without neurons made of matter,
because information is bound up with thermodynamics.
The heat death would be the freezing hell. The black hole would be the
burning hell. Any soul that is attached to the material existence would
be frozen first and burned later until the ultimate end of universe when
all matters are destroyed by the black hole to be turned into energy.
The soul is spiritual. The spiritual existence is its true home. When
the soul mistakes the physical existence as its home, it will not be
able to go back to the spiritual existence. So the eternal hell until
the end of universe would be its only destiny.
Another idea from aaa that is from the ass.
If you can think and speak nonsense, there is no reason that you reject our view!!!!
I think so too. Since I don't think and speak nonsense, it must be why I
reject your view.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
Cloud Hobbit
2018-03-08 00:47:17 UTC
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I think so too. Since I don't think and speak nonsense, it must be why I
reject your view.
- show quoted text -

Bwahahahahaha.

Further evidence that you and reality are strangers.
aaa
2018-03-08 07:12:01 UTC
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I think so too. Since I don't think and speak nonsense, it must be why I
reject your view.
- show quoted text -
Bwahahahahaha.
Further evidence that you and reality are strangers.
What evidence?
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
Yap Honghor
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Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect. I take solace in
knowing that no matter what tragedy befalls me, the aftermath will not
last forever.
The heat death of the universe assures that will not be the case, even if
consciousness could somehow take place without neurons made of matter,
because information is bound up with thermodynamics.
The heat death would be the freezing hell. The black hole would be the
burning hell. Any soul that is attached to the material existence would
be frozen first and burned later until the ultimate end of universe when
all matters are destroyed by the black hole to be turned into energy.
The soul is spiritual. The spiritual existence is its true home. When
the soul mistakes the physical existence as its home, it will not be
able to go back to the spiritual existence. So the eternal hell until
the end of universe would be its only destiny.
Another idea from aaa that is from the ass.
If you can think and speak nonsense, there is no reason that you reject our view!!!!
I think so too. Since I don't think and speak nonsense, it must be why I
reject your view.
Our views are always logical and reasonable, unrejectable....
Your opinion, on the other hand, are unfathomable.
aaa
2018-03-08 07:10:14 UTC
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Post by aaa
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Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect. I take
solace in knowing that no matter what tragedy befalls me,
the aftermath will not last forever.
The heat death of the universe assures that will not be the
case, even if consciousness could somehow take place without
neurons made of matter, because information is bound up with
thermodynamics.
The heat death would be the freezing hell. The black hole would
be the burning hell. Any soul that is attached to the material
existence would be frozen first and burned later until the
ultimate end of universe when all matters are destroyed by the
black hole to be turned into energy. The soul is spiritual. The
spiritual existence is its true home. When the soul mistakes
the physical existence as its home, it will not be able to go
back to the spiritual existence. So the eternal hell until the
end of universe would be its only destiny.
Another idea from aaa that is from the ass. If you can think and
speak nonsense, there is no reason that you reject our view!!!!
I think so too. Since I don't think and speak nonsense, it must be
why I reject your view.
Our views are always logical and reasonable, unrejectable.... Your
opinion, on the other hand, are unfathomable.
Your scientific view is always questionable. That is the inherent nature
of science. Science never explains anything with absolute certainty.

My philosophical view is unfathomable to you because you lack the
necessary spiritual understanding. It's why you need to improve yourself
by opening yourself up to God. Only God can provide you with the
necessary spiritual insight.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
Malcolm McMahon
2018-03-08 09:19:05 UTC
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Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect. I take
solace in knowing that no matter what tragedy befalls me,
the aftermath will not last forever.
The heat death of the universe assures that will not be the
case, even if consciousness could somehow take place without
neurons made of matter, because information is bound up with
thermodynamics.
The heat death would be the freezing hell. The black hole would
be the burning hell. Any soul that is attached to the material
existence would be frozen first and burned later until the
ultimate end of universe when all matters are destroyed by the
black hole to be turned into energy. The soul is spiritual. The
spiritual existence is its true home. When the soul mistakes
the physical existence as its home, it will not be able to go
back to the spiritual existence. So the eternal hell until the
end of universe would be its only destiny.
Another idea from aaa that is from the ass. If you can think and
speak nonsense, there is no reason that you reject our view!!!!
I think so too. Since I don't think and speak nonsense, it must be
why I reject your view.
Our views are always logical and reasonable, unrejectable.... Your
opinion, on the other hand, are unfathomable.
Your scientific view is always questionable. That is the inherent nature
of science. Science never explains anything with absolute certainty.
That lack of certainty is the central strength of the scientific paradigm. It allows it improve itself.

It allows us to say "I don't know (yet)".

Religious paradigms, on the other hand, are rigid. They become fossilised. And they insist on having explanations for everything.
aaa
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Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect. I
take solace in knowing that no matter what tragedy
befalls me, the aftermath will not last forever.
The heat death of the universe assures that will not be
the case, even if consciousness could somehow take place
without neurons made of matter, because information is
bound up with thermodynamics.
The heat death would be the freezing hell. The black hole
would be the burning hell. Any soul that is attached to the
material existence would be frozen first and burned later
until the ultimate end of universe when all matters are
destroyed by the black hole to be turned into energy. The
soul is spiritual. The spiritual existence is its true
home. When the soul mistakes the physical existence as its
home, it will not be able to go back to the spiritual
existence. So the eternal hell until the end of universe
would be its only destiny.
Another idea from aaa that is from the ass. If you can think
and speak nonsense, there is no reason that you reject our
view!!!!
I think so too. Since I don't think and speak nonsense, it must
be why I reject your view.
Our views are always logical and reasonable, unrejectable....
Your opinion, on the other hand, are unfathomable.
Your scientific view is always questionable. That is the inherent
nature of science. Science never explains anything with absolute
certainty.
That lack of certainty is the central strength of the scientific
paradigm. It allows it improve itself.
Unfortunately, that is also an indication that science is never going to
be perfect. It will always have flaws.
Post by Malcolm McMahon
It allows us to say "I don't know (yet)".
That is not a permission. That is a demand because science itself
doesn't really have a real answer for anything. It's always provisional.
Post by Malcolm McMahon
Religious paradigms, on the other hand, are rigid. They become
fossilised. And they insist on having explanations for everything.
It's not an insistence either. God does know everything. It's why God's
philosophy is always greater than science.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
Malcolm McMahon
2018-03-08 15:56:08 UTC
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Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect. I
take solace in knowing that no matter what tragedy
befalls me, the aftermath will not last forever.
The heat death of the universe assures that will not be
the case, even if consciousness could somehow take place
without neurons made of matter, because information is
bound up with thermodynamics.
The heat death would be the freezing hell. The black hole
would be the burning hell. Any soul that is attached to the
material existence would be frozen first and burned later
until the ultimate end of universe when all matters are
destroyed by the black hole to be turned into energy. The
soul is spiritual. The spiritual existence is its true
home. When the soul mistakes the physical existence as its
home, it will not be able to go back to the spiritual
existence. So the eternal hell until the end of universe
would be its only destiny.
Another idea from aaa that is from the ass. If you can think
and speak nonsense, there is no reason that you reject our
view!!!!
I think so too. Since I don't think and speak nonsense, it must
be why I reject your view.
Our views are always logical and reasonable, unrejectable....
Your opinion, on the other hand, are unfathomable.
Your scientific view is always questionable. That is the inherent
nature of science. Science never explains anything with absolute
certainty.
That lack of certainty is the central strength of the scientific
paradigm. It allows it improve itself.
Unfortunately, that is also an indication that science is never going to
be perfect. It will always have flaws.
Indeed. Perfection is deadly. Because you can't improve on it, you can only destroy it.
Post by aaa
Post by Malcolm McMahon
It allows us to say "I don't know (yet)".
That is not a permission. That is a demand because science itself
doesn't really have a real answer for anything. It's always provisional.
I'll take the partial explanations of science over the crystal certainties of religion any day.

Religion clings to it's mistakes.
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I'll take the partial explanations of science over the crystal certainties of religion any day.

Religion clings to it's mistakes.
___________

Religion not only clings to its mistakes it's proud of them.
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Post by aaa
On Mon, 05 Mar 2018 20:40:08 -0800,
Post by j***@gmail.com
Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect. I
take solace in knowing that no matter what tragedy
befalls me, the aftermath will not last forever.
The heat death of the universe assures that will not
be the case, even if consciousness could somehow take
place without neurons made of matter, because
information is bound up with thermodynamics.
The heat death would be the freezing hell. The black
hole would be the burning hell. Any soul that is
attached to the material existence would be frozen
first and burned later until the ultimate end of
universe when all matters are destroyed by the black
hole to be turned into energy. The soul is spiritual.
The spiritual existence is its true home. When the soul
mistakes the physical existence as its home, it will
not be able to go back to the spiritual existence. So
the eternal hell until the end of universe would be its
only destiny.
Another idea from aaa that is from the ass. If you can
think and speak nonsense, there is no reason that you
reject our view!!!!
I think so too. Since I don't think and speak nonsense, it
must be why I reject your view.
Our views are always logical and reasonable,
unrejectable.... Your opinion, on the other hand, are
unfathomable.
Your scientific view is always questionable. That is the
inherent nature of science. Science never explains anything
with absolute certainty.
That lack of certainty is the central strength of the scientific
paradigm. It allows it improve itself.
Unfortunately, that is also an indication that science is never
going to be perfect. It will always have flaws.
Indeed. Perfection is deadly. Because you can't improve on it, you can only destroy it.
No. Perfection is freedom. Without perfection, there is no real freedom.
With perfection, one will truly enjoy life without fear and worry.
Post by Malcolm McMahon
Post by aaa
Post by Malcolm McMahon
It allows us to say "I don't know (yet)".
That is not a permission. That is a demand because science itself
doesn't really have a real answer for anything. It's always
provisional.
I'll take the partial explanations of science over the crystal
certainties of religion any day.
That's only because you don't yet understand the certainty of religious
faith. Your partial explanation of science only helps you to improve
your physical living condition. The certainty of religious faith will
help people to overcome suffering and death. Science only gives you
temporary comfort. Religious faith will solve all your problems in life.
Science makes you vulnerable to nature's harsh environment, but
religious faith will make you a better person who can make better
contributions to the society you live in.
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Religion clings to it's mistakes.
But religious faith doesn't make mistakes.
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Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
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Religion clings to it's mistakes.
But religious faith doesn't make mistakes.
- _______________

Religious faith IS a mistake.
Faith is belief without evidence.

Faith is not required if you have evidence.

You have nothing.
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Religion clings to it's mistakes.
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Religious faith IS a mistake.
Faith is belief without evidence.
Faith is not required if you have evidence.
You have nothing.
Your understanding of faith is entirely mistaken. I have talked faith
too many times. It's not a belief in the mind. It's the conviction and
the knowledge of truth in the heart. Our faith knows the truth better
than we. That is why our belief in the faith can be a strong belief.

Because faith is our instinctive knowledge of the truth, faith never
makes mistakes.
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Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
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Religion clings to it's mistakes.
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Religious faith IS a mistake.
Faith is belief without evidence.
Faith is not required if you have evidence.
You have nothing.
Your understanding of faith is entirely mistaken. I have talked faith
too many times. It's not a belief in the mind. It's the conviction and
the knowledge of truth in the heart.
The heart is a pump. What we poetically ascribe to the heart are the activities of the paleocortex, emotion, appetites, ego.

And whereas the activities of this part of the brain are often impressive, they are _extremely_ fallible.
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Religion clings to it's mistakes.
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Religious faith IS a mistake. Faith is belief without evidence.
Faith is not required if you have evidence.
You have nothing.
Your understanding of faith is entirely mistaken. I have talked
faith too many times. It's not a belief in the mind. It's the
conviction and the knowledge of truth in the heart.
The heart is a pump. What we poetically ascribe to the heart are the
activities of the paleocortex, emotion, appetites, ego.
And whereas the activities of this part of the brain are often
impressive, they are _extremely_ fallible.
The heart isn't a pump in a philosophical discussion. It's the same as
the mind isn't the brain in a philosophical discussion either. What
happens in the heart and what happens in the mind are reflected in the
brain functions, but they are always entirely different emotions. The
emotions from the heart are always pure and good to life. The emotions
from the mind are always unclean and bad to life. They are not to be
confused as all coming from the heart.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
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Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect.  I
take solace in knowing that no matter what tragedy
befalls me, the aftermath will not last forever.
The heat death of the universe assures that will not
be the case, even if consciousness could somehow take
place without neurons made of matter, because
information is bound up with thermodynamics.
The heat death would be the freezing hell. The black
hole would be the burning hell. Any soul that is
attached to the material existence would be frozen
first and burned later until the ultimate end of
universe when all matters are destroyed by the black
hole to be turned into energy. The soul is spiritual.
The spiritual existence is its true home. When the soul
mistakes the physical existence as its home, it will
not be able to go back to the spiritual existence. So
the eternal hell until the end of universe would be its
only destiny.
Another idea from aaa that is from the ass. If you can
think and speak nonsense, there is no reason that you
reject our view!!!!
I think so too. Since I don't think and speak nonsense, it
must be why I reject your view.
Our views are always logical and reasonable,
unrejectable.... Your opinion, on the other hand, are
unfathomable.
Your scientific view is always questionable. That is the
inherent nature of science. Science never explains anything
with absolute certainty.
That lack of certainty is the central strength of the scientific
paradigm. It allows it improve itself.
Unfortunately, that is also an indication that science is never
going to be perfect. It will always have flaws.
Indeed. Perfection is deadly. Because you can't improve on it, you can only destroy it.
No. Perfection is freedom. Without perfection, there is no real freedom.
With perfection, one will truly enjoy life without fear and worry.
Perfection is stagnation.

Perfection means no growth, no discovery, no challenges, no achievement.
Just boredom.

And perfection in an afterlife means you do not even get the blessed
release of death from such infinite stasis.
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Perfection is stagnation.

Perfection means no growth, no discovery, no challenges, no achievement.
Just boredom.

And perfection in an afterlife means you do not even get the blessed
release of death from such infinite stasis.
..,............

Amen.
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Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect.  I
take solace in knowing that no matter what tragedy
befalls me, the aftermath will not last forever.
The heat death of the universe assures that will not
be the case, even if consciousness could somehow take
place without neurons made of matter, because
information is bound up with thermodynamics.
The heat death would be the freezing hell. The black
hole would be the burning hell. Any soul that is
attached to the material existence would be frozen
first and burned later until the ultimate end of
universe when all matters are destroyed by the black
hole to be turned into energy. The soul is spiritual.
The spiritual existence is its true home. When the soul
mistakes the physical existence as its home, it will
not be able to go back to the spiritual existence. So
the eternal hell until the end of universe would be its
only destiny.
Another idea from aaa that is from the ass. If you can
think and speak nonsense, there is no reason that you
reject our view!!!!
I think so too. Since I don't think and speak nonsense, it
must be why I reject your view.
Our views are always logical and reasonable,
unrejectable.... Your opinion, on the other hand, are
unfathomable.
Your scientific view is always questionable. That is the
inherent nature of science. Science never explains anything
with absolute certainty.
That lack of certainty is the central strength of the scientific
paradigm. It allows it improve itself.
Unfortunately, that is also an indication that science is never
going to be perfect. It will always have flaws.
Indeed. Perfection is deadly. Because you can't improve on it, you can only destroy it.
No. Perfection is freedom. Without perfection, there is no real
freedom. With perfection, one will truly enjoy life without fear and
worry.
Perfection is stagnation.
Perfection means no growth, no discovery, no challenges, no achievement.
 Just boredom.
And perfection in an afterlife means you do not even get the blessed
release of death from such infinite stasis.
Yup. In the afterlife they describe, there is no "life", just something
like a drug-induced eternal buzz... I'll pass...
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Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect. I
take solace in knowing that no matter what tragedy
befalls me, the aftermath will not last forever.
The heat death of the universe assures that will not
be the case, even if consciousness could somehow take
place without neurons made of matter, because
information is bound up with thermodynamics.
The heat death would be the freezing hell. The black
hole would be the burning hell. Any soul that is
attached to the material existence would be frozen
first and burned later until the ultimate end of
universe when all matters are destroyed by the black
hole to be turned into energy. The soul is spiritual.
The spiritual existence is its true home. When the soul
mistakes the physical existence as its home, it will
not be able to go back to the spiritual existence. So
the eternal hell until the end of universe would be its
only destiny.
Another idea from aaa that is from the ass. If you can
think and speak nonsense, there is no reason that you
reject our view!!!!
I think so too. Since I don't think and speak nonsense, it
must be why I reject your view.
Our views are always logical and reasonable,
unrejectable.... Your opinion, on the other hand, are
unfathomable.
Your scientific view is always questionable. That is the
inherent nature of science. Science never explains anything
with absolute certainty.
That lack of certainty is the central strength of the scientific
paradigm. It allows it improve itself.
Unfortunately, that is also an indication that science is never
going to be perfect. It will always have flaws.
Indeed. Perfection is deadly. Because you can't improve on it, you can only destroy it.
No. Perfection is freedom. Without perfection, there is no real
freedom. With perfection, one will truly enjoy life without fear and
worry.
Perfection is stagnation.
Perfection means no growth, no discovery, no challenges, no achievement.
Just boredom.
And perfection in an afterlife means you do not even get the blessed
release of death from such infinite stasis.
Yup. In the afterlife they describe, there is no "life", just something
like a drug-induced eternal buzz... I'll pass
.............

"Consider the Christian alternative. Life after death in a world beyond time, beyond space. Where there is no time there can be no change, no motion, no movement. No space implies no dimension. And yet we would be conscious--of what? Of God they say, of His love. We shall bask forever in the love of God. (Forever is a long time.) Like staring at the sun with hands bound, head in a vise, your eyelids taped open--but in this case without even the hope of blindness or the salvation of shrieking insanity." E. A.
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Post by aaa
On Mon, 05 Mar 2018 20:40:08 -0800,
Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect.  I
take solace in knowing that no matter what tragedy
befalls me, the aftermath will not last forever.
The heat death of the universe assures that will not
be the case, even if consciousness could somehow take
place without neurons made of matter, because
information is bound up with thermodynamics.
The heat death would be the freezing hell. The black
hole would be the burning hell. Any soul that is
attached to the material existence would be frozen
first and burned later until the ultimate end of
universe when all matters are destroyed by the black
hole to be turned into energy. The soul is spiritual.
The spiritual existence is its true home. When the soul
mistakes the physical existence as its home, it will
not be able to go back to the spiritual existence. So
the eternal hell until the end of universe would be its
only destiny.
Another idea from aaa that is from the ass. If you can
think and speak nonsense, there is no reason that you
reject our view!!!!
I think so too. Since I don't think and speak nonsense, it
must be why I reject your view.
Our views are always logical and reasonable,
unrejectable.... Your opinion, on the other hand, are
unfathomable.
Your scientific view is always questionable. That is the
inherent nature of science. Science never explains anything
with absolute certainty.
That lack of certainty is the central strength of the scientific
paradigm. It allows it improve itself.
Unfortunately, that is also an indication that science is never
going to be perfect. It will always have flaws.
Indeed. Perfection is deadly. Because you can't improve on it, you
can only destroy it.
No. Perfection is freedom. Without perfection, there is no real freedom.
With perfection, one will truly enjoy life without fear and worry.
Perfection is stagnation.
Perfection means no growth, no discovery, no challenges, no achievement.
Just boredom.
Heaven is for herbivores.
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Post by aaa
On Mon, 05 Mar 2018 20:40:08 -0800,
Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect.  I
take solace in knowing that no matter what tragedy
befalls me, the aftermath will not last forever.
The heat death of the universe assures that will not
be the case, even if consciousness could somehow take
place without neurons made of matter, because
information is bound up with thermodynamics.
The heat death would be the freezing hell. The black
hole would be the burning hell. Any soul that is
attached to the material existence would be frozen
first and burned later until the ultimate end of
universe when all matters are destroyed by the black
hole to be turned into energy. The soul is spiritual.
The spiritual existence is its true home. When the soul
mistakes the physical existence as its home, it will
not be able to go back to the spiritual existence. So
the eternal hell until the end of universe would be its
only destiny.
Another idea from aaa that is from the ass. If you can
think and speak nonsense, there is no reason that you
reject our view!!!!
I think so too. Since I don't think and speak nonsense, it
must be why I reject your view.
Our views are always logical and reasonable,
unrejectable.... Your opinion, on the other hand, are
unfathomable.
Your scientific view is always questionable. That is the
inherent nature of science. Science never explains anything
with absolute certainty.
That lack of certainty is the central strength of the scientific
paradigm. It allows it improve itself.
Unfortunately, that is also an indication that science is never
going to be perfect. It will always have flaws.
Indeed. Perfection is deadly. Because you can't improve on it, you
can only destroy it.
No. Perfection is freedom. Without perfection, there is no real freedom.
With perfection, one will truly enjoy life without fear and worry.
Perfection is stagnation.
Perfection means no growth, no discovery, no challenges, no achievement.
Just boredom.
Heaven is for herbivores.
No. Heaven is for bacon lovers.
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Post by aaa
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Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect.  I
take solace in knowing that no matter what tragedy
befalls me, the aftermath will not last forever.
The heat death of the universe assures that will not
be the case, even if consciousness could somehow take
place without neurons made of matter, because
information is bound up with thermodynamics.
The heat death would be the freezing hell. The black
hole would be the burning hell. Any soul that is
attached to the material existence would be frozen
first and burned later until the ultimate end of
universe when all matters are destroyed by the black
hole to be turned into energy. The soul is spiritual.
The spiritual existence is its true home. When the soul
mistakes the physical existence as its home, it will
not be able to go back to the spiritual existence. So
the eternal hell until the end of universe would be its
only destiny.
Another idea from aaa that is from the ass. If you can
think and speak nonsense, there is no reason that you
reject our view!!!!
I think so too. Since I don't think and speak nonsense, it
must be why I reject your view.
Our views are always logical and reasonable,
unrejectable.... Your opinion, on the other hand, are
unfathomable.
Your scientific view is always questionable. That is the
inherent nature of science. Science never explains anything
with absolute certainty.
That lack of certainty is the central strength of the
scientific
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paradigm. It allows it improve itself.
Unfortunately, that is also an indication that science is never
going to be perfect. It will always have flaws.
Indeed. Perfection is deadly. Because you can't improve on it, you
can only destroy it.
No. Perfection is freedom. Without perfection, there is no real freedom.
With perfection, one will truly enjoy life without fear and worry.
Perfection is stagnation.
Perfection means no growth, no discovery, no challenges, no
achievement.
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Just boredom.
Heaven is for herbivores.
No. Heaven is for bacon lovers.
There's different kind's of bacon in Canada, a gf from Kitchener once
explained to me.
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Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect.  I
take solace in knowing that no matter what tragedy
befalls me, the aftermath will not last forever.
The heat death of the universe assures that will not
be the case, even if consciousness could somehow take
place without neurons made of matter, because
information is bound up with thermodynamics.
The heat death would be the freezing hell. The black
hole would be the burning hell. Any soul that is
attached to the material existence would be frozen
first and burned later until the ultimate end of
universe when all matters are destroyed by the black
hole to be turned into energy. The soul is spiritual.
The spiritual existence is its true home. When the soul
mistakes the physical existence as its home, it will
not be able to go back to the spiritual existence. So
the eternal hell until the end of universe would be its
only destiny.
Another idea from aaa that is from the ass. If you can
think and speak nonsense, there is no reason that you
reject our view!!!!
I think so too. Since I don't think and speak nonsense, it
must be why I reject your view.
Our views are always logical and reasonable,
unrejectable.... Your opinion, on the other hand, are
unfathomable.
Your scientific view is always questionable. That is the
inherent nature of science. Science never explains anything
with absolute certainty.
That lack of certainty is the central strength of the
scientific
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paradigm. It allows it improve itself.
Unfortunately, that is also an indication that science is
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going to be perfect. It will always have flaws.
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can only destroy it.
No. Perfection is freedom. Without perfection, there is no real
freedom.
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With perfection, one will truly enjoy life without fear and
worry.
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Perfection is stagnation.
Perfection means no growth, no discovery, no challenges, no
achievement.
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    Just boredom.
Heaven is for herbivores.
No. Heaven is for bacon lovers.
There's different kind's of bacon in Canada, a gf from Kitchener once
explained to me.
Indeed. But what's call Canadian bacon in the USA is pretty much just
cured, smoked thinly sliced ham, without much fat. I like it some times.
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Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect.  I
take solace in knowing that no matter what tragedy
befalls me, the aftermath will not last forever.
The heat death of the universe assures that will not
be the case, even if consciousness could somehow take
place without neurons made of matter, because
information is bound up with thermodynamics.
The heat death would be the freezing hell. The black
hole would be the burning hell. Any soul that is
attached to the material existence would be frozen
first and burned later until the ultimate end of
universe when all matters are destroyed by the black
hole to be turned into energy. The soul is spiritual.
The spiritual existence is its true home. When the soul
mistakes the physical existence as its home, it will
not be able to go back to the spiritual existence. So
the eternal hell until the end of universe would be its
only destiny.
Another idea from aaa that is from the ass. If you can
think and speak nonsense, there is no reason that you
reject our view!!!!
I think so too. Since I don't think and speak
nonsense, it
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must be why I reject your view.
Our views are always logical and reasonable,
unrejectable.... Your opinion, on the other hand, are
unfathomable.
Your scientific view is always questionable. That is the
inherent nature of science. Science never explains
anything
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with absolute certainty.
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scientific
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paradigm. It allows it improve itself.
Unfortunately, that is also an indication that science is
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going to be perfect. It will always have flaws.
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can only destroy it.
No. Perfection is freedom. Without perfection, there is no real
freedom.
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With perfection, one will truly enjoy life without fear and
worry.
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Perfection is stagnation.
Perfection means no growth, no discovery, no challenges, no
achievement.
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    Just boredom.
Heaven is for herbivores.
No. Heaven is for bacon lovers.
There's different kind's of bacon in Canada, a gf from Kitchener once
explained to me.
Indeed. But what's call Canadian bacon in the USA is pretty much just
cured, smoked thinly sliced ham, without much fat. I like it some times.
Yes, she explained all that over breakfast once. Probably at Tim
Horton's. Do they serve bacon?
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Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect.  I take
solace in knowing that no matter what tragedy befalls me,
the aftermath will not last forever.
The heat death of the universe assures that will not be the
case, even if consciousness could somehow take place without
neurons made of matter, because information is bound up with
thermodynamics.
The heat death would be the freezing hell. The black hole
would be the burning hell. Any soul that is attached to the
material existence would be frozen first and burned later
until the ultimate end of universe when all matters are
destroyed by the black hole to be turned into energy. The
soul is spiritual. The spiritual existence is its true home.
When the soul mistakes the physical existence as its home, it
will not be able to go back to the spiritual existence. So
the eternal hell until the end of universe would be its only
destiny.
Another idea from aaa that is from the ass. If you can think
and speak nonsense, there is no reason that you reject our
view!!!!
I think so too. Since I don't think and speak nonsense, it must
be why I reject your view.
Our views are always logical and reasonable, unrejectable....
Your opinion, on the other hand, are unfathomable.
Your scientific view is always questionable. That is the inherent
nature of science. Science never explains anything with absolute
certainty.
That lack of certainty is the central strength of the scientific
paradigm. It allows it improve itself.
Unfortunately, that is also an indication that science is never
going to be perfect. It will always have flaws.
Indeed. Perfection is deadly. Because you can't improve on it, you
can only destroy it.
No. Perfection is freedom. Without perfection, there is no real freedom.
With perfection, one will truly enjoy life without fear and worry.
Perfection is stagnation.
Perfection means no growth, no discovery, no challenges, no
achievement.
Just boredom.
Heaven is for herbivores.
No. Heaven is for bacon lovers.
Stop telling porkies.
<Porky pies, Cockney rhyming slang>
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Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect. I
take solace in knowing that no matter what tragedy
befalls me, the aftermath will not last forever.
The heat death of the universe assures that will not
be the case, even if consciousness could somehow take
place without neurons made of matter, because
information is bound up with thermodynamics.
The heat death would be the freezing hell. The black
hole would be the burning hell. Any soul that is
attached to the material existence would be frozen
first and burned later until the ultimate end of
universe when all matters are destroyed by the black
hole to be turned into energy. The soul is spiritual.
The spiritual existence is its true home. When the soul
mistakes the physical existence as its home, it will
not be able to go back to the spiritual existence. So
the eternal hell until the end of universe would be its
only destiny.
Another idea from aaa that is from the ass. If you can
think and speak nonsense, there is no reason that you
reject our view!!!!
I think so too. Since I don't think and speak nonsense, it
must be why I reject your view.
Our views are always logical and reasonable,
unrejectable.... Your opinion, on the other hand, are
unfathomable.
Your scientific view is always questionable. That is the
inherent nature of science. Science never explains anything
with absolute certainty.
That lack of certainty is the central strength of the scientific
paradigm. It allows it improve itself.
Unfortunately, that is also an indication that science is never
going to be perfect. It will always have flaws.
Indeed. Perfection is deadly. Because you can't improve on it, you
can only destroy it.
No. Perfection is freedom. Without perfection, there is no real freedom..
With perfection, one will truly enjoy life without fear and worry.
Perfection is stagnation.
Perfection means no growth, no discovery, no challenges, no achievement.
Just boredom.
Heaven is for herbivores.
Heaven is for the clean and pure.
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Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect. I take
solace in knowing that no matter what tragedy befalls me,
the aftermath will not last forever.
The heat death of the universe assures that will not be the
case, even if consciousness could somehow take place without
neurons made of matter, because information is bound up with
thermodynamics.
The heat death would be the freezing hell. The black hole
would be the burning hell. Any soul that is attached to the
material existence would be frozen first and burned later
until the ultimate end of universe when all matters are
destroyed by the black hole to be turned into energy. The
soul is spiritual. The spiritual existence is its true home.
When the soul mistakes the physical existence as its home, it
will not be able to go back to the spiritual existence. So
the eternal hell until the end of universe would be its only
destiny.
Another idea from aaa that is from the ass. If you can think
and speak nonsense, there is no reason that you reject our
view!!!!
I think so too. Since I don't think and speak nonsense, it must
be why I reject your view.
Our views are always logical and reasonable, unrejectable....
Your opinion, on the other hand, are unfathomable.
Your scientific view is always questionable. That is the inherent
nature of science. Science never explains anything with absolute
certainty.
That lack of certainty is the central strength of the scientific
paradigm. It allows it improve itself.
Unfortunately, that is also an indication that science is never
going to be perfect. It will always have flaws.
Indeed. Perfection is deadly. Because you can't improve on it, you
can only destroy it.
No. Perfection is freedom. Without perfection, there is no real freedom..
With perfection, one will truly enjoy life without fear and worry.
Perfection is stagnation.
Perfection means no growth, no discovery, no challenges, no
achievement.
Just boredom.
Heaven is for herbivores.
Heaven is for the clean and pure.
Heaven is a figment of your imagination.
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Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect. I take
solace in knowing that no matter what tragedy
befalls me,
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the aftermath will not last forever.
The heat death of the universe assures that will not be the
case, even if consciousness could somehow take place without
neurons made of matter, because information is bound up with
thermodynamics.
The heat death would be the freezing hell. The black hole
would be the burning hell. Any soul that is attached to the
material existence would be frozen first and burned later
until the ultimate end of universe when all matters are
destroyed by the black hole to be turned into energy. The
soul is spiritual. The spiritual existence is its true home.
When the soul mistakes the physical existence as its home, it
will not be able to go back to the spiritual
existence. So
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the eternal hell until the end of universe would be its only
destiny.
Another idea from aaa that is from the ass. If you can think
and speak nonsense, there is no reason that you reject our
view!!!!
I think so too. Since I don't think and speak nonsense, it must
be why I reject your view.
Our views are always logical and reasonable,
unrejectable....
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Your opinion, on the other hand, are unfathomable.
Your scientific view is always questionable. That is the inherent
nature of science. Science never explains anything with absolute
certainty.
That lack of certainty is the central strength of the
scientific
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paradigm. It allows it improve itself.
Unfortunately, that is also an indication that science is never
going to be perfect. It will always have flaws.
Indeed. Perfection is deadly. Because you can't improve on it, you
can only destroy it.
No. Perfection is freedom. Without perfection, there is no real freedom..
With perfection, one will truly enjoy life without fear and worry.
Perfection is stagnation.
Perfection means no growth, no discovery, no challenges, no achievement.
Just boredom.
Heaven is for herbivores.
Heaven is for the clean and pure.
Heaven is a figment of your imagination.
OMG you just gave me a good idea for a new cookie. Fig & mint.
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2018-03-10 09:44:49 UTC
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Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect. I take
solace in knowing that no matter what tragedy befalls me,
the aftermath will not last forever.
The heat death of the universe assures that will not be the
case, even if consciousness could somehow take place without
neurons made of matter, because information is bound up with
thermodynamics.
The heat death would be the freezing hell. The black hole
would be the burning hell. Any soul that is attached to the
material existence would be frozen first and burned later
until the ultimate end of universe when all matters are
destroyed by the black hole to be turned into energy. The
soul is spiritual. The spiritual existence is its true home.
When the soul mistakes the physical existence as its home, it
will not be able to go back to the spiritual existence. So
the eternal hell until the end of universe would be its only
destiny.
Another idea from aaa that is from the ass. If you can think
and speak nonsense, there is no reason that you reject our
view!!!!
I think so too. Since I don't think and speak nonsense, it must
be why I reject your view.
Our views are always logical and reasonable, unrejectable....
Your opinion, on the other hand, are unfathomable.
Your scientific view is always questionable. That is the inherent
nature of science. Science never explains anything with absolute
certainty.
That lack of certainty is the central strength of the scientific
paradigm. It allows it improve itself.
Unfortunately, that is also an indication that science is never
going to be perfect. It will always have flaws.
Indeed. Perfection is deadly. Because you can't improve on it, you
can only destroy it.
No. Perfection is freedom. Without perfection, there is no real freedom..
With perfection, one will truly enjoy life without fear and worry.
Perfection is stagnation.
Perfection means no growth, no discovery, no challenges, no
achievement.
Just boredom.
Heaven is for herbivores.
Heaven is for the clean and pure.
Heaven is a figment of your imagination.
Heaven is nothing you can imagine.
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happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
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2018-03-09 07:59:21 UTC
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Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect.
I take solace in knowing that no matter what
tragedy befalls me, the aftermath will not last
forever.
The heat death of the universe assures that will
not be the case, even if consciousness could
somehow take place without neurons made of
matter, because information is bound up with
thermodynamics.
The heat death would be the freezing hell. The
black hole would be the burning hell. Any soul that
is attached to the material existence would be
frozen first and burned later until the ultimate
end of universe when all matters are destroyed by
the black hole to be turned into energy. The soul
is spiritual. The spiritual existence is its true
home. When the soul mistakes the physical existence
as its home, it will not be able to go back to the
spiritual existence. So the eternal hell until the
end of universe would be its only destiny.
Another idea from aaa that is from the ass. If you
can think and speak nonsense, there is no reason that
you reject our view!!!!
I think so too. Since I don't think and speak nonsense,
it must be why I reject your view.
Our views are always logical and reasonable,
unrejectable.... Your opinion, on the other hand, are
unfathomable.
Your scientific view is always questionable. That is the
inherent nature of science. Science never explains
anything with absolute certainty.
That lack of certainty is the central strength of the
scientific paradigm. It allows it improve itself.
Unfortunately, that is also an indication that science is
never going to be perfect. It will always have flaws.
Indeed. Perfection is deadly. Because you can't improve on it, you can only destroy it.
No. Perfection is freedom. Without perfection, there is no real
freedom. With perfection, one will truly enjoy life without fear
and worry.
Perfection is stagnation.
That's only your imagination. Perfection is a higher state of existence.
It is the result of growth and accomplishment. It's never a stagnation.
It is a perfect new beginning.
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Perfection means no growth, no discovery, no challenges, no
achievement. Just boredom.
That would be your lack of imagination. Perfection will open us to a
brand new world with endless growth, discovery, challenge, and
achievement. It would mean that life has advanced beyond the stars. It's
the ultimate goal for life on earth.
Post by Alex W.
And perfection in an afterlife means you do not even get the blessed
release of death from such infinite stasis.
That too is just your sad imagination. Perfection has nothing to do with
death. Perfection is only achieved by defeating death. Death is only an
illusion of this physical existence. To life that is spiritual, death
has no meaning.
--
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Alex W.
2018-03-10 00:18:28 UTC
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Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect.
I take solace in knowing that no matter what
tragedy befalls me, the aftermath will not last
forever.
The heat death of the universe assures that will
not be the case, even if consciousness could
somehow take place without neurons made of
matter, because information is bound up with
thermodynamics.
The heat death would be the freezing hell. The
black hole would be the burning hell. Any soul that
is attached to the material existence would be
frozen first and burned later until the ultimate
end of universe when all matters are destroyed by
the black hole to be turned into energy. The soul
is spiritual. The spiritual existence is its true
home. When the soul mistakes the physical existence
as its home, it will not be able to go back to the
spiritual existence. So the eternal hell until the
end of universe would be its only destiny.
Another idea from aaa that is from the ass. If you
can think and speak nonsense, there is no reason that
you reject our view!!!!
I think so too. Since I don't think and speak nonsense,
it must be why I reject your view.
Our views are always logical and reasonable,
unrejectable.... Your opinion, on the other hand, are
unfathomable.
Your scientific view is always questionable. That is the
inherent nature of science. Science never explains
anything with absolute certainty.
That lack of certainty is the central strength of the
scientific paradigm. It allows it improve itself.
Unfortunately, that is also an indication that science is
never going to be perfect. It will always have flaws.
Indeed. Perfection is deadly. Because you can't improve on it,
you can only destroy it.
No. Perfection is freedom. Without perfection, there is no real
freedom. With perfection, one will truly enjoy life without fear
and worry.
Perfection is stagnation.
That's only your imagination. Perfection is a higher state of existence.
It is the result of growth and accomplishment. It's never a stagnation.
It is a perfect new beginning.
By definition, if it is perfect there CANNOT be growth, improvement or
accomplishment. If it is perfect you cannot have a "beginning" because
there cannot be progression, let alone an end.
aaa
2018-03-10 09:36:58 UTC
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Eternal consciousness is a terrifying
prospect. I take solace in knowing that no
matter what tragedy befalls me, the
aftermath will not last forever.
The heat death of the universe assures that
will not be the case, even if consciousness
could somehow take place without neurons made
of matter, because information is bound up
with thermodynamics.
The heat death would be the freezing hell. The
black hole would be the burning hell. Any soul
that is attached to the material existence
would be frozen first and burned later until
the ultimate end of universe when all matters
are destroyed by the black hole to be turned
into energy. The soul is spiritual. The
spiritual existence is its true home. When the
soul mistakes the physical existence as its
home, it will not be able to go back to the
spiritual existence. So the eternal hell until
the end of universe would be its only destiny.
Another idea from aaa that is from the ass. If
you can think and speak nonsense, there is no
reason that you reject our view!!!!
I think so too. Since I don't think and speak
nonsense, it must be why I reject your view.
Our views are always logical and reasonable,
unrejectable.... Your opinion, on the other hand,
are unfathomable.
Your scientific view is always questionable. That is
the inherent nature of science. Science never explains
anything with absolute certainty.
That lack of certainty is the central strength of the
scientific paradigm. It allows it improve itself.
Unfortunately, that is also an indication that science is
never going to be perfect. It will always have flaws.
Indeed. Perfection is deadly. Because you can't improve on
it, you can only destroy it.
No. Perfection is freedom. Without perfection, there is no
real freedom. With perfection, one will truly enjoy life
without fear and worry.
Perfection is stagnation.
That's only your imagination. Perfection is a higher state of
existence. It is the result of growth and accomplishment. It's
never a stagnation. It is a perfect new beginning.
By definition, if it is perfect there CANNOT be growth, improvement
or accomplishment. If it is perfect you cannot have a "beginning"
because there cannot be progression, let alone an end.
No. Perfection does exist in time and perfection does not eliminate
change. It simply means perfection will make everything perfect in the
change of time. There will always be new things to discover and new
knowledge to learn in a perfect state. Heaven does have many levels.
--
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Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
Cloud Hobbit
2018-03-10 09:44:15 UTC
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No. Perfection does exist in time and perfection does not eliminate
change. It simply means perfection will make everything perfect in the
change of time.
___________
That's right, things especially living things evolve.

Things that once worked no longer do.

Hey, that's one in a row.
____________


There will always be new things to discover and new
knowledge to learn in a perfect state. Heaven does have many levels.

_______________


Not for you. You already know everything.
aaa
2018-03-10 12:30:01 UTC
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No. Perfection does exist in time and perfection does not eliminate
change. It simply means perfection will make everything perfect in the
change of time.
___________
That's right, things especially living things evolve.
No. Living things are already perfect. They have no need to evolve, but
they do have the intelligent ability to adapt to the changing
environment with perfection. The changing of life isn't an evolution. It
is always perfect on every stage to be best fit to the environment it is in.
Post by aaa
Things that once worked no longer do.
False interpretation. Things always worked. The change is a mere
reflection of the changing environment. It doesn't mean any kind of
failure or imperfection of the living things.
Post by aaa
Hey, that's one in a row.
____________
There will always be new things to discover and new
knowledge to learn in a perfect state. Heaven does have many levels.
_______________
Not for you. You already know everything.
No, I don't. I'm just an ordinary person like everybody else.
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Don Martin
2018-03-10 16:05:09 UTC
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Perfection is stagnation.
That's only your imagination. Perfection is a higher state of existence.
It is the result of growth and accomplishment. It's never a stagnation.
It is a perfect new beginning.
By definition, if it is perfect there CANNOT be growth, improvement or
accomplishment. If it is perfect you cannot have a "beginning" because
there cannot be progression, let alone an end.
I fear you are wasting your breath, Mr W; while the rest of us see you
taking another chip off the old blockhead, the old blockhead itself is
incapable of following the logic of your response. We shall, of
course, see when/if it replies.
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Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect.
I take solace in knowing that no matter what tragedy befalls
me, the aftermath will not last forever.
The heat death of the universe assures that will not be the
case, even if consciousness could somehow take place without
neurons made of matter, because information is bound up with
thermodynamics.
The heat death would be the freezing hell. The black hole
would be the burning hell. Any soul that is attached to the
material existence would be frozen first and burned later
until the ultimate end of universe when all matters are
destroyed by the black hole to be turned into energy. The soul
is spiritual. The spiritual existence is its true home. When
the soul mistakes the physical existence as its home, it will
not be able to go back to the spiritual existence. So the
eternal hell until the end of universe would be its only
destiny.
Another idea from aaa that is from the ass. If you can think
and speak nonsense, there is no reason that you reject our
view!!!!
I think so too. Since I don't think and speak nonsense,
it must be why I reject your view.
Our views are always logical and reasonable, unrejectable....
Your opinion, on the other hand, are unfathomable.
Your scientific view is always questionable. That is the inherent
nature of science. Science never explains anything with absolute
certainty.
That lack of certainty is the central strength of the scientific
paradigm. It allows it improve itself.
Unfortunately, that is also an indication that science is never
going to be perfect. It will always have flaws.
Indeed. Perfection is deadly. Because you can't improve on it,
you can only destroy it.
No. Perfection is freedom. Without perfection, there is no real
freedom. With perfection, one will truly enjoy life without fear and
worry.
Perfection is stagnation.
That's only your imagination. Perfection is a higher state of existence.
It is the result of growth and accomplishment. It's never a stagnation.
It is a perfect new beginning.
A new beginning of what?
Post by aaa
Post by Alex W.
Perfection means no growth, no discovery, no challenges, no
achievement. Just boredom.
That would be your lack of imagination. Perfection will open us to a
brand new world with endless growth, discovery, challenge, and
achievement.
In which case, it won't be perfection. Perfection is the ultimate, where there
is no growth, no discovery, no challenges and no achievement possible.
Post by aaa
It would mean that life has advanced beyond the stars. It's
the ultimate goal for life on earth.
It may be your insane ultimate goal, but it's not mine.
Post by aaa
Post by Alex W.
And perfection in an afterlife means you do not even get the blessed
release of death from such infinite stasis.
That too is just your sad imagination. Perfection has nothing to do with
death.
Thanks for confirming what he said.
Post by aaa
Perfection is only achieved by defeating death. Death is only an
illusion of this physical existence. To life that is spiritual, death
has no meaning.
So you say. Now prove it.
--
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On Wednesday, March 7, 2018 at 7:09:45 AM UTC+8,
Post by aaa
On Mon, 05 Mar 2018 20:40:08 -0800,
Post by j***@gmail.com
Eternal consciousness is a terrifying
prospect. I take solace in knowing that no
matter what tragedy befalls me, the
aftermath will not last forever.
The heat death of the universe assures that
will not be the case, even if consciousness
could somehow take place without neurons made
of matter, because information is bound up
with thermodynamics.
The heat death would be the freezing hell. The
black hole would be the burning hell. Any soul
that is attached to the material existence
would be frozen first and burned later until
the ultimate end of universe when all matters
are destroyed by the black hole to be turned
into energy. The soul is spiritual. The
spiritual existence is its true home. When the
soul mistakes the physical existence as its
home, it will not be able to go back to the
spiritual existence. So the eternal hell until
the end of universe would be its only destiny.
Another idea from aaa that is from the ass. If
you can think and speak nonsense, there is no
reason that you reject our view!!!!
I think so too. Since I don't think and speak
nonsense, it must be why I reject your view.
Our views are always logical and reasonable,
unrejectable.... Your opinion, on the other hand, are
unfathomable.
Your scientific view is always questionable. That is
the inherent nature of science. Science never explains
anything with absolute certainty.
That lack of certainty is the central strength of the
scientific paradigm. It allows it improve itself.
Unfortunately, that is also an indication that science is
never going to be perfect. It will always have flaws.
Indeed. Perfection is deadly. Because you can't improve on
it, you can only destroy it.
No. Perfection is freedom. Without perfection, there is no
real freedom. With perfection, one will truly enjoy life
without fear and worry.
Perfection is stagnation.
That's only your imagination. Perfection is a higher state of
existence. It is the result of growth and accomplishment. It's
never a stagnation. It is a perfect new beginning.
A new beginning of what?
Life.
Post by Smiler
Post by aaa
Post by Alex W.
Perfection means no growth, no discovery, no challenges, no
achievement. Just boredom.
That would be your lack of imagination. Perfection will open us to
a brand new world with endless growth, discovery, challenge, and
achievement.
In which case, it won't be perfection. Perfection is the ultimate,
where there is no growth, no discovery, no challenges and no
achievement possible.
No.
Post by Smiler
Post by aaa
It would mean that life has advanced beyond the stars. It's the
ultimate goal for life on earth.
It may be your insane ultimate goal, but it's not mine.
Post by aaa
Post by Alex W.
And perfection in an afterlife means you do not even get the
blessed release of death from such infinite stasis.
That too is just your sad imagination. Perfection has nothing to do
with death.
Thanks for confirming what he said.
Post by aaa
Perfection is only achieved by defeating death. Death is only an
illusion of this physical existence. To life that is spiritual,
death has no meaning.
So you say. Now prove it.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
aaa
2018-03-10 09:44:13 UTC
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Post by aaa
On Mon, 05 Mar 2018 20:40:08 -0800,
Post by j***@gmail.com
Eternal consciousness is a terrifying
prospect. I take solace in knowing that no
matter what tragedy befalls me, the
aftermath will not last forever.
The heat death of the universe assures that
will not be the case, even if consciousness
could somehow take place without neurons made
of matter, because information is bound up
with thermodynamics.
The heat death would be the freezing hell. The
black hole would be the burning hell. Any soul
that is attached to the material existence
would be frozen first and burned later until
the ultimate end of universe when all matters
are destroyed by the black hole to be turned
into energy. The soul is spiritual. The
spiritual existence is its true home. When the
soul mistakes the physical existence as its
home, it will not be able to go back to the
spiritual existence. So the eternal hell until
the end of universe would be its only destiny.
Another idea from aaa that is from the ass. If
you can think and speak nonsense, there is no
reason that you reject our view!!!!
I think so too. Since I don't think and speak
nonsense, it must be why I reject your view.
Our views are always logical and reasonable,
unrejectable.... Your opinion, on the other hand, are
unfathomable.
Your scientific view is always questionable. That is
the inherent nature of science. Science never explains
anything with absolute certainty.
That lack of certainty is the central strength of the
scientific paradigm. It allows it improve itself.
Unfortunately, that is also an indication that science is
never going to be perfect. It will always have flaws.
Indeed. Perfection is deadly. Because you can't improve on
it, you can only destroy it.
No. Perfection is freedom. Without perfection, there is no
real freedom. With perfection, one will truly enjoy life
without fear and worry.
Perfection is stagnation.
That's only your imagination. Perfection is a higher state of
existence. It is the result of growth and accomplishment. It's
never a stagnation. It is a perfect new beginning.
A new beginning of what?
Life.
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Post by aaa
Post by Alex W.
Perfection means no growth, no discovery, no challenges, no
achievement. Just boredom.
That would be your lack of imagination. Perfection will open us to
a brand new world with endless growth, discovery, challenge, and
achievement.
In which case, it won't be perfection. Perfection is the ultimate,
where there is no growth, no discovery, no challenges and no
achievement possible.
No. Perfection does not eliminate any of those things. It only makes all
those things perfect.
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Post by aaa
It would mean that life has advanced beyond the stars. It's the
ultimate goal for life on earth.
It may be your insane ultimate goal, but it's not mine.
Life strives for perfection. That is a fact you can't deny.
Post by Smiler
Post by aaa
Post by Alex W.
And perfection in an afterlife means you do not even get the
blessed release of death from such infinite stasis.
That too is just your sad imagination. Perfection has nothing to do
with death.
Thanks for confirming what he said.
I didn't.
Post by Smiler
Post by aaa
Perfection is only achieved by defeating death. Death is only an
illusion of this physical existence. To life that is spiritual,
death has no meaning.
So you say. Now prove it.
It's self-evident. I don't have to prove it.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
Yap Honghor
2018-03-09 02:24:51 UTC
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Post by j***@gmail.com
Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect. I
take solace in knowing that no matter what tragedy
befalls me, the aftermath will not last forever.
The heat death of the universe assures that will not be
the case, even if consciousness could somehow take place
without neurons made of matter, because information is
bound up with thermodynamics.
The heat death would be the freezing hell. The black hole
would be the burning hell. Any soul that is attached to the
material existence would be frozen first and burned later
until the ultimate end of universe when all matters are
destroyed by the black hole to be turned into energy. The
soul is spiritual. The spiritual existence is its true
home. When the soul mistakes the physical existence as its
home, it will not be able to go back to the spiritual
existence. So the eternal hell until the end of universe
would be its only destiny.
Another idea from aaa that is from the ass. If you can think
and speak nonsense, there is no reason that you reject our
view!!!!
I think so too. Since I don't think and speak nonsense, it must
be why I reject your view.
Our views are always logical and reasonable, unrejectable....
Your opinion, on the other hand, are unfathomable.
Your scientific view is always questionable. That is the inherent
nature of science. Science never explains anything with absolute
certainty.
That lack of certainty is the central strength of the scientific
paradigm. It allows it improve itself.
Unfortunately, that is also an indication that science is never going to
be perfect. It will always have flaws.
What is perfect in the real world?
Between you and me, you already are a brain damaged idiot.
Post by aaa
Post by Malcolm McMahon
It allows us to say "I don't know (yet)".
That is not a permission. That is a demand because science itself
doesn't really have a real answer for anything. It's always provisional.
But, you keep on using scientific tools such as computer....
Post by aaa
Post by Malcolm McMahon
Religious paradigms, on the other hand, are rigid. They become
fossilised. And they insist on having explanations for everything.
It's not an insistence either. God does know everything. It's why God's
philosophy is always greater than science.
And your pixie created an idiot like you?
That says much about it...
Robert Carnegie
2018-03-09 07:38:49 UTC
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Post by teresita
Post by j***@gmail.com
Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect. I
take solace in knowing that no matter what tragedy
befalls me, the aftermath will not last forever.
The heat death of the universe assures that will not be
the case, even if consciousness could somehow take place
without neurons made of matter, because information is
bound up with thermodynamics.
The heat death would be the freezing hell. The black hole
would be the burning hell. Any soul that is attached to the
material existence would be frozen first and burned later
until the ultimate end of universe when all matters are
destroyed by the black hole to be turned into energy. The
soul is spiritual. The spiritual existence is its true
home. When the soul mistakes the physical existence as its
home, it will not be able to go back to the spiritual
existence. So the eternal hell until the end of universe
would be its only destiny.
Another idea from aaa that is from the ass. If you can think
and speak nonsense, there is no reason that you reject our
view!!!!
I think so too. Since I don't think and speak nonsense, it must
be why I reject your view.
Our views are always logical and reasonable, unrejectable....
Your opinion, on the other hand, are unfathomable.
Your scientific view is always questionable. That is the inherent
nature of science. Science never explains anything with absolute
certainty.
That lack of certainty is the central strength of the scientific
paradigm. It allows it improve itself.
Unfortunately, that is also an indication that science is never going to
be perfect. It will always have flaws.
What is perfect in the real world?
Between you and me, you already are a brain damaged idiot.
On that subject... I don't seem to be finding agreement when
I make the proposition that responding to stupid religious
articles in alt.atheism just encourages the people who make
them. But do you know a phrase that I recently saw,
"Don't punch down"?

The meaning of it that I want to use is: it isn't gracious
to have a battle of wits with someone who's unarmed.

To other atheists here I say: consider whether that principle
also applies to you. Or maybe you're engaging in a fair fight?
aaa
2018-03-09 09:06:18 UTC
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Post by aaa
On Mon, 05 Mar 2018 20:40:08 -0800, jackpineinthesnow
Post by j***@gmail.com
Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect. I
take solace in knowing that no matter what tragedy
befalls me, the aftermath will not last forever.
The heat death of the universe assures that will not be
the case, even if consciousness could somehow take place
without neurons made of matter, because information is
bound up with thermodynamics.
The heat death would be the freezing hell. The black hole
would be the burning hell. Any soul that is attached to the
material existence would be frozen first and burned later
until the ultimate end of universe when all matters are
destroyed by the black hole to be turned into energy. The
soul is spiritual. The spiritual existence is its true
home. When the soul mistakes the physical existence as its
home, it will not be able to go back to the spiritual
existence. So the eternal hell until the end of universe
would be its only destiny.
Another idea from aaa that is from the ass. If you can think
and speak nonsense, there is no reason that you reject our
view!!!!
I think so too. Since I don't think and speak nonsense, it must
be why I reject your view.
Our views are always logical and reasonable, unrejectable....
Your opinion, on the other hand, are unfathomable.
Your scientific view is always questionable. That is the inherent
nature of science. Science never explains anything with absolute
certainty.
That lack of certainty is the central strength of the scientific
paradigm. It allows it improve itself.
Unfortunately, that is also an indication that science is never going to
be perfect. It will always have flaws.
What is perfect in the real world?
Between you and me, you already are a brain damaged idiot.
On that subject... I don't seem to be finding agreement when
I make the proposition that responding to stupid religious
articles in alt.atheism just encourages the people who make
them. But do you know a phrase that I recently saw,
"Don't punch down"?
The meaning of it that I want to use is: it isn't gracious
to have a battle of wits with someone who's unarmed.
Not if the unarmed is actually winning the battle. There is nothing
ungracious to disarm your opponent without lifting a finger.

;-)
Post by Robert Carnegie
To other atheists here I say: consider whether that principle
also applies to you. Or maybe you're engaging in a fair fight?
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
j***@gmail.com
2018-03-09 15:06:35 UTC
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Post by aaa
Post by teresita
Post by j***@gmail.com
Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect. I
take solace in knowing that no matter what tragedy
befalls me, the aftermath will not last forever.
The heat death of the universe assures that will not be
the case, even if consciousness could somehow take place
without neurons made of matter, because information is
bound up with thermodynamics.
The heat death would be the freezing hell. The black hole
would be the burning hell. Any soul that is attached to the
material existence would be frozen first and burned later
until the ultimate end of universe when all matters are
destroyed by the black hole to be turned into energy. The
soul is spiritual. The spiritual existence is its true
home. When the soul mistakes the physical existence as its
home, it will not be able to go back to the spiritual
existence. So the eternal hell until the end of universe
would be its only destiny.
Another idea from aaa that is from the ass. If you can think
and speak nonsense, there is no reason that you reject our
view!!!!
I think so too. Since I don't think and speak nonsense, it must
be why I reject your view.
Our views are always logical and reasonable, unrejectable....
Your opinion, on the other hand, are unfathomable.
Your scientific view is always questionable. That is the inherent
nature of science. Science never explains anything with absolute
certainty.
That lack of certainty is the central strength of the scientific
paradigm. It allows it improve itself.
Unfortunately, that is also an indication that science is never going to
be perfect. It will always have flaws.
What is perfect in the real world?
Between you and me, you already are a brain damaged idiot.
On that subject... I don't seem to be finding agreement when
I make the proposition that responding to stupid religious
articles in alt.atheism just encourages the people who make
them. But do you know a phrase that I recently saw,
"Don't punch down"?
The meaning of it that I want to use is: it isn't gracious
to have a battle of wits with someone who's unarmed.
Ungracious at best, bullying at worst. Not that I'm innocent.
Post by Robert Carnegie
To other atheists here I say: consider whether that principle
also applies to you. Or maybe you're engaging in a fair fight?
aaa
2018-03-09 09:15:09 UTC
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Post by Malcolm McMahon
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Post by aaa
On Wednesday, March 7, 2018 at 7:09:45 AM UTC+8, aaa
Post by aaa
On Mon, 05 Mar 2018 20:40:08 -0800,
Post by j***@gmail.com
Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect. I
take solace in knowing that no matter what tragedy
befalls me, the aftermath will not last forever.
The heat death of the universe assures that will not
be the case, even if consciousness could somehow take
place without neurons made of matter, because
information is bound up with thermodynamics.
The heat death would be the freezing hell. The black
hole would be the burning hell. Any soul that is
attached to the material existence would be frozen
first and burned later until the ultimate end of
universe when all matters are destroyed by the black
hole to be turned into energy. The soul is spiritual.
The spiritual existence is its true home. When the soul
mistakes the physical existence as its home, it will
not be able to go back to the spiritual existence. So
the eternal hell until the end of universe would be its
only destiny.
Another idea from aaa that is from the ass. If you can
think and speak nonsense, there is no reason that you
reject our view!!!!
I think so too. Since I don't think and speak nonsense, it
must be why I reject your view.
Our views are always logical and reasonable,
unrejectable.... Your opinion, on the other hand, are
unfathomable.
Your scientific view is always questionable. That is the
inherent nature of science. Science never explains anything
with absolute certainty.
That lack of certainty is the central strength of the scientific
paradigm. It allows it improve itself.
Unfortunately, that is also an indication that science is never
going to be perfect. It will always have flaws.
What is perfect in the real world? Between you and me, you already
are a brain damaged idiot.
Nothing is perfect in your illusive physical world. Between you and me,
you need to follow the discussion and stop your sudden misfiring of
neurons. Perhaps brain damage isn't just my concern.
Post by aaa
Post by Malcolm McMahon
It allows us to say "I don't know (yet)".
That is not a permission. That is a demand because science itself
doesn't really have a real answer for anything. It's always
provisional.
But, you keep on using scientific tools such as computer....
As you have just said, it's just a tool. It's never any real solution.
Post by aaa
Post by Malcolm McMahon
Religious paradigms, on the other hand, are rigid. They become
fossilised. And they insist on having explanations for
everything.
It's not an insistence either. God does know everything. It's why
God's philosophy is always greater than science.
And your pixie created an idiot like you? That says much about it...
Since God also created an idiot like you, how much different can you be?
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
Yap Honghor
2018-03-08 09:24:32 UTC
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Post by aaa
Post by aaa
Post by teresita
Post by j***@gmail.com
Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect. I take
solace in knowing that no matter what tragedy befalls me,
the aftermath will not last forever.
The heat death of the universe assures that will not be the
case, even if consciousness could somehow take place without
neurons made of matter, because information is bound up with
thermodynamics.
The heat death would be the freezing hell. The black hole would
be the burning hell. Any soul that is attached to the material
existence would be frozen first and burned later until the
ultimate end of universe when all matters are destroyed by the
black hole to be turned into energy. The soul is spiritual. The
spiritual existence is its true home. When the soul mistakes
the physical existence as its home, it will not be able to go
back to the spiritual existence. So the eternal hell until the
end of universe would be its only destiny.
Another idea from aaa that is from the ass. If you can think and
speak nonsense, there is no reason that you reject our view!!!!
I think so too. Since I don't think and speak nonsense, it must be
why I reject your view.
Our views are always logical and reasonable, unrejectable.... Your
opinion, on the other hand, are unfathomable.
Your scientific view is always questionable. That is the inherent nature
of science. Science never explains anything with absolute certainty.
It is no surprise that theists reject science, facts and logic.
Every observation, conclusion and theory has a little exception in them. Nothing in this world is absolute....this is the nature of science!!!!
Post by aaa
My philosophical view is unfathomable to you because you lack the
necessary spiritual understanding. It's why you need to improve yourself
by opening yourself up to God. Only God can provide you with the
necessary spiritual insight.
What is spiritual???
You are talking something that you do not understand personally, which means it is nonsense.

There is no such a thing as a pixie in existence !!!!
aaa
2018-03-08 14:33:02 UTC
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On Mon, 05 Mar 2018 20:40:08 -0800, jackpineinthesnow
Post by j***@gmail.com
Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect. I
take solace in knowing that no matter what tragedy
befalls me, the aftermath will not last forever.
The heat death of the universe assures that will not be
the case, even if consciousness could somehow take place
without neurons made of matter, because information is
bound up with thermodynamics.
The heat death would be the freezing hell. The black hole
would be the burning hell. Any soul that is attached to the
material existence would be frozen first and burned later
until the ultimate end of universe when all matters are
destroyed by the black hole to be turned into energy. The
soul is spiritual. The spiritual existence is its true
home. When the soul mistakes the physical existence as its
home, it will not be able to go back to the spiritual
existence. So the eternal hell until the end of universe
would be its only destiny.
Another idea from aaa that is from the ass. If you can think
and speak nonsense, there is no reason that you reject our
view!!!!
I think so too. Since I don't think and speak nonsense, it must
be why I reject your view.
Our views are always logical and reasonable, unrejectable....
Your opinion, on the other hand, are unfathomable.
Your scientific view is always questionable. That is the inherent
nature of science. Science never explains anything with absolute
certainty.
It is no surprise that theists reject science, facts and logic. Every
observation, conclusion and theory has a little exception in them.
Nothing in this world is absolute....this is the nature of
science!!!!
Which only demonstrates the imperfect nature of science.
Post by aaa
My philosophical view is unfathomable to you because you lack the
necessary spiritual understanding. It's why you need to improve
yourself by opening yourself up to God. Only God can provide you
with the necessary spiritual insight.
What is spiritual??? You are talking something that you do not
understand personally, which means it is nonsense.
Spiritual is a higher realm of existence where the listed things in my
signature are found. It's greater than the physical existence. It has
everything life in this physical existence wants. It's what makes life
possible and bearable. Without the spiritual, life is always worse than
death.

We spend our life in this physical world to make our life better, but
what really makes life better are the spiritual things listed in my
signature. We exhaust ourselves to acquire the physical things in this
world, but what can really satisfy us are all spiritual that has nothing
to do with those physical things. We are going at the wrong direction
and looking for the wrong things. This is why we suffer in life.
There is no such a thing as a pixie in existence !!!!
You only believe that because you have never paid any attention to the
spiritual. You are only looking for God in this physical world when you
should have looked for God in the spiritual world instead.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
Smiler
2018-03-09 00:45:50 UTC
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Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect. I take solace
in knowing that no matter what tragedy befalls me, the aftermath
will not last forever.
The heat death of the universe assures that will not be the case,
even if consciousness could somehow take place without neurons
made of matter, because information is bound up with
thermodynamics.
The heat death would be the freezing hell. The black hole would be
the burning hell. Any soul that is attached to the material
existence would be frozen first and burned later until the
ultimate end of universe when all matters are destroyed by the
black hole to be turned into energy. The soul is spiritual. The
spiritual existence is its true home. When the soul mistakes the
physical existence as its home, it will not be able to go back to
the spiritual existence. So the eternal hell until the end of
universe would be its only destiny.
Another idea from aaa that is from the ass. If you can think and
speak nonsense, there is no reason that you reject our view!!!!
I think so too. Since I don't think and speak nonsense, it must be
why I reject your view.
Our views are always logical and reasonable, unrejectable....
Your opinion, on the other hand, are unfathomable.
Your scientific view is always questionable. That is the inherent
nature of science. Science never explains anything with absolute
certainty.
It is no surprise that theists reject science, facts and logic. Every
observation, conclusion and theory has a little exception in them.
Nothing in this world is absolute....this is the nature of science!!!!
Which only demonstrates the imperfect nature of science.
Post by aaa
My philosophical view is unfathomable to you because you lack the
necessary spiritual understanding. It's why you need to improve
yourself by opening yourself up to God. Only God can provide you with
the necessary spiritual insight.
What is spiritual??? You are talking something that you do not
understand personally, which means it is nonsense.
Spiritual is a higher realm of existence where the listed things in my
signature are found.
So you say. Now prove it.
Post by aaa
It's greater than the physical existence.
So you say. Now prove it.
Post by aaa
It has everything life in this physical existence wants.
So you say. Now prove it.
Post by aaa
It's what makes life possible and bearable.
So you say. Now prove it.
Post by aaa
Without the spiritual, life is always worse than death.
So you say. Now prove it.
Post by aaa
We spend our life in this physical world to make our life better, but
what really makes life better are the spiritual things listed in my
signature.
So you say. Now prove it.
Post by aaa
We exhaust ourselves to acquire the physical things in this
world, but what can really satisfy us are all spiritual that has nothing
to do with those physical things.
So you say. Now prove it.
Post by aaa
We are going at the wrong direction
and looking for the wrong things. This is why we suffer in life.
So you say. Now prove it.
Post by aaa
There is no such a thing as a pixie in existence !!!!
You only believe that because you have never paid any attention to the
spiritual. You are only looking for God in this physical world when you
should have looked for God in the spiritual world instead.
Why should we look for the non-existent?
Have you looked for leprechauns?
--
Smiler, The godless one. a.a.# 2279
All gods are tailored to order. They're made
to exactly fit the prejudices of their believers.

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2018-03-09 07:42:54 UTC
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Post by aaa
On Mon, 05 Mar 2018 20:40:08 -0800, jackpineinthesnow
Post by j***@gmail.com
Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect. I
take solace in knowing that no matter what tragedy
befalls me, the aftermath will not last forever.
The heat death of the universe assures that will not
be the case, even if consciousness could somehow take
place without neurons made of matter, because
information is bound up with thermodynamics.
The heat death would be the freezing hell. The black
hole would be the burning hell. Any soul that is
attached to the material existence would be frozen
first and burned later until the ultimate end of
universe when all matters are destroyed by the black
hole to be turned into energy. The soul is spiritual.
The spiritual existence is its true home. When the soul
mistakes the physical existence as its home, it will
not be able to go back to the spiritual existence. So
the eternal hell until the end of universe would be its
only destiny.
Another idea from aaa that is from the ass. If you can
think and speak nonsense, there is no reason that you
reject our view!!!!
I think so too. Since I don't think and speak nonsense, it
must be why I reject your view.
Our views are always logical and reasonable,
unrejectable.... Your opinion, on the other hand, are
unfathomable.
Your scientific view is always questionable. That is the
inherent nature of science. Science never explains anything
with absolute certainty.
It is no surprise that theists reject science, facts and logic.
Every observation, conclusion and theory has a little exception
in them. Nothing in this world is absolute....this is the nature
of science!!!!
Which only demonstrates the imperfect nature of science.
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by aaa
My philosophical view is unfathomable to you because you lack
the necessary spiritual understanding. It's why you need to
improve yourself by opening yourself up to God. Only God can
provide you with the necessary spiritual insight.
What is spiritual??? You are talking something that you do not
understand personally, which means it is nonsense.
Spiritual is a higher realm of existence where the listed things in
my signature are found.
So you say. Now prove it.
I can, but I don't have to. It's only something for you to find out and
realize.
Post by Smiler
Post by aaa
It's greater than the physical existence.
So you say. Now prove it.
I can, but I don't have to. It's only something for you to find out and
realize.
Post by Smiler
Post by aaa
It has everything life in this physical existence wants.
So you say. Now prove it.
I can, but I don't have to. It's only something for you to find out and
realize.
Post by Smiler
Post by aaa
It's what makes life possible and bearable.
So you say. Now prove it.
I can, but I don't have to. It's only something for you to find out and
realize.
Post by Smiler
Post by aaa
Without the spiritual, life is always worse than death.
So you say. Now prove it.
I can, but I don't have to. It's only something for you to find out and
realize.
Post by Smiler
Post by aaa
We spend our life in this physical world to make our life better,
but what really makes life better are the spiritual things listed
in my signature.
So you say. Now prove it.
I can, but I don't have to. It's only something for you to find out and
realize.
Post by Smiler
Post by aaa
We exhaust ourselves to acquire the physical things in this world,
but what can really satisfy us are all spiritual that has nothing
to do with those physical things.
So you say. Now prove it.
I can, but I don't have to. It's only something for you to find out and
realize.
Post by Smiler
Post by aaa
We are going at the wrong direction and looking for the wrong
things. This is why we suffer in life.
So you say. Now prove it.
I can, but I don't have to. It's only something for you to find out and
realize.
Post by Smiler
Post by aaa
Post by Yap Honghor
There is no such a thing as a pixie in existence !!!!
You only believe that because you have never paid any attention to
the spiritual. You are only looking for God in this physical world
when you should have looked for God in the spiritual world
instead.
Why should we look for the non-existent? Have you looked for
leprechauns?
You shouldn't look for the non-existent, but God does exist beyond your
ignorant human mind. Too bad you don't want to realize this.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
Smiler
2018-03-10 01:14:06 UTC
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Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect. I take solace
in knowing that no matter what tragedy befalls me, the
aftermath will not last forever.
The heat death of the universe assures that will not be the
case, even if consciousness could somehow take place without
neurons made of matter, because information is bound up with
thermodynamics.
The heat death would be the freezing hell. The black hole would
be the burning hell. Any soul that is attached to the material
existence would be frozen first and burned later until the
ultimate end of universe when all matters are destroyed by the
black hole to be turned into energy. The soul is spiritual. The
spiritual existence is its true home. When the soul mistakes the
physical existence as its home, it will not be able to go back
to the spiritual existence. So the eternal hell until the end of
universe would be its only destiny.
Another idea from aaa that is from the ass. If you can think and
speak nonsense, there is no reason that you reject our view!!!!
I think so too. Since I don't think and speak nonsense, it must be
why I reject your view.
Our views are always logical and reasonable, unrejectable.... Your
opinion, on the other hand, are unfathomable.
Your scientific view is always questionable. That is the inherent
nature of science. Science never explains anything with absolute
certainty.
It is no surprise that theists reject science, facts and logic. Every
observation, conclusion and theory has a little exception in them.
Nothing in this world is absolute....this is the nature of
science!!!!
Which only demonstrates the imperfect nature of science.
Post by aaa
My philosophical view is unfathomable to you because you lack the
necessary spiritual understanding. It's why you need to improve
yourself by opening yourself up to God. Only God can provide you
with the necessary spiritual insight.
What is spiritual??? You are talking something that you do not
understand personally, which means it is nonsense.
Spiritual is a higher realm of existence where the listed things in my
signature are found.
So you say. Now prove it.
I can, but I don't have to. It's only something for you to find out and
realize.
So you say. Now prove it.
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Post by Smiler
Post by aaa
It's greater than the physical existence.
So you say. Now prove it.
I can, but I don't have to. It's only something for you to find out and
realize.
So you say. Now prove it.
Post by aaa
Post by Smiler
Post by aaa
It has everything life in this physical existence wants.
So you say. Now prove it.
I can, but I don't have to. It's only something for you to find out and
realize.
So you say. Now prove it.
Post by aaa
Post by Smiler
Post by aaa
It's what makes life possible and bearable.
So you say. Now prove it.
I can, but I don't have to. It's only something for you to find out and
realize.
So you say. Now prove it.
Post by aaa
Post by Smiler
Post by aaa
Without the spiritual, life is always worse than death.
So you say. Now prove it.
I can, but I don't have to. It's only something for you to find out and
realize.
So you say. Now prove it.
Post by aaa
Post by Smiler
Post by aaa
We spend our life in this physical world to make our life better, but
what really makes life better are the spiritual things listed in my
signature.
So you say. Now prove it.
I can, but I don't have to. It's only something for you to find out and
realize.
So you say. Now prove it.
Post by aaa
Post by Smiler
Post by aaa
We exhaust ourselves to acquire the physical things in this world, but
what can really satisfy us are all spiritual that has nothing to do
with those physical things.
So you say. Now prove it.
I can, but I don't have to. It's only something for you to find out and
realize.
So you say. Now prove it.
Post by aaa
Post by Smiler
Post by aaa
We are going at the wrong direction and looking for the wrong things.
This is why we suffer in life.
So you say. Now prove it.
I can, but I don't have to. It's only something for you to find out and
realize.
So you say. Now prove it.
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Post by Smiler
Post by aaa
There is no such a thing as a pixie in existence !!!!
You only believe that because you have never paid any attention to the
spiritual. You are only looking for God in this physical world when
you should have looked for God in the spiritual world instead.
Why should we look for the non-existent? Have you looked for
leprechauns?
You shouldn't look for the non-existent,
I don't, but you do.
Post by aaa
but God does exist beyond your ignorant human mind.
God only exists in your insane mind.
Post by aaa
Too bad you don't want to realize this.
Too bad you can't show any evidence for your supposed god character.
--
Smiler, The godless one. a.a.# 2279
All gods are tailored to order. They're made
to exactly fit the prejudices of their believers.

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There is no such a thing as a pixie in existence !!!!
You only believe that because you have never paid any attention to the
spiritual. You are only looking for God in this physical world when
you should have looked for God in the spiritual world instead.
Why should we look for the non-existent? Have you looked for
leprechauns?
You shouldn't look for the non-existent,
I don't, but you do.
No.
Post by Smiler
Post by aaa
but God does exist beyond your ignorant human mind.
God only exists in your insane mind.
No. God lives in my heart.
Post by Smiler
Post by aaa
Too bad you don't want to realize this.
Too bad you can't show any evidence for your supposed god character.
I already have.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
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Post by j***@gmail.com
Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect. I
take solace in knowing that no matter what tragedy
befalls me, the aftermath will not last forever.
The heat death of the universe assures that will not be
the case, even if consciousness could somehow take place
without neurons made of matter, because information is
bound up with thermodynamics.
The heat death would be the freezing hell. The black hole
would be the burning hell. Any soul that is attached to the
material existence would be frozen first and burned later
until the ultimate end of universe when all matters are
destroyed by the black hole to be turned into energy. The
soul is spiritual. The spiritual existence is its true
home. When the soul mistakes the physical existence as its
home, it will not be able to go back to the spiritual
existence. So the eternal hell until the end of universe
would be its only destiny.
Another idea from aaa that is from the ass. If you can think
and speak nonsense, there is no reason that you reject our
view!!!!
I think so too. Since I don't think and speak nonsense, it must
be why I reject your view.
Our views are always logical and reasonable, unrejectable....
Your opinion, on the other hand, are unfathomable.
Your scientific view is always questionable. That is the inherent
nature of science. Science never explains anything with absolute
certainty.
It is no surprise that theists reject science, facts and logic. Every
observation, conclusion and theory has a little exception in them.
Nothing in this world is absolute....this is the nature of
science!!!!
Which only demonstrates the imperfect nature of science.
There is nothing in this universe that is perfect...no nothing!
Post by aaa
Post by aaa
My philosophical view is unfathomable to you because you lack the
necessary spiritual understanding. It's why you need to improve
yourself by opening yourself up to God. Only God can provide you
with the necessary spiritual insight.
What is spiritual??? You are talking something that you do not
understand personally, which means it is nonsense.
Spiritual is a higher realm of existence where the listed things in my
signature are found. It's greater than the physical existence. It has
everything life in this physical existence wants. It's what makes life
possible and bearable. Without the spiritual, life is always worse than
death.
Don't try to bullshit your way through.....
Post by aaa
We spend our life in this physical world to make our life better, but
what really makes life better are the spiritual things listed in my
signature. We exhaust ourselves to acquire the physical things in this
world, but what can really satisfy us are all spiritual that has nothing
to do with those physical things. We are going at the wrong direction
and looking for the wrong things. This is why we suffer in life.
You have nothing in your sig that we do not know. Nature has given them to lives and no one has the right to relegate them to a non-existent pixie.
You do that because you are a stupid theist!!!
Post by aaa
There is no such a thing as a pixie in existence !!!!
You only believe that because you have never paid any attention to the
spiritual. You are only looking for God in this physical world when you
should have looked for God in the spiritual world instead.
There is no pixie in this world, this universe, this spiritual.....
aaa
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Post by aaa
On Mon, 05 Mar 2018 20:40:08 -0800,
Post by j***@gmail.com
Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect. I
take solace in knowing that no matter what tragedy
befalls me, the aftermath will not last forever.
The heat death of the universe assures that will not
be the case, even if consciousness could somehow take
place without neurons made of matter, because
information is bound up with thermodynamics.
The heat death would be the freezing hell. The black
hole would be the burning hell. Any soul that is
attached to the material existence would be frozen
first and burned later until the ultimate end of
universe when all matters are destroyed by the black
hole to be turned into energy. The soul is spiritual.
The spiritual existence is its true home. When the soul
mistakes the physical existence as its home, it will
not be able to go back to the spiritual existence. So
the eternal hell until the end of universe would be its
only destiny.
Another idea from aaa that is from the ass. If you can
think and speak nonsense, there is no reason that you
reject our view!!!!
I think so too. Since I don't think and speak nonsense, it
must be why I reject your view.
Our views are always logical and reasonable,
unrejectable.... Your opinion, on the other hand, are
unfathomable.
Your scientific view is always questionable. That is the
inherent nature of science. Science never explains anything
with absolute certainty.
It is no surprise that theists reject science, facts and logic.
Every observation, conclusion and theory has a little exception
in them. Nothing in this world is absolute....this is the nature
of science!!!!
Which only demonstrates the imperfect nature of science.
There is nothing in this universe that is perfect...no nothing!
Very true. That's why science doesn't really solve anything by studying
the imperfect. There can be no perfect solution coming from imperfect
scientific research.
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by aaa
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by aaa
My philosophical view is unfathomable to you because you lack
the necessary spiritual understanding. It's why you need to
improve yourself by opening yourself up to God. Only God can
provide you with the necessary spiritual insight.
What is spiritual??? You are talking something that you do not
understand personally, which means it is nonsense.
Spiritual is a higher realm of existence where the listed things in
my signature are found. It's greater than the physical existence.
It has everything life in this physical existence wants. It's what
makes life possible and bearable. Without the spiritual, life is
always worse than death.
Don't try to bullshit your way through.....
There is no bullshit. Just look at the my signature. Those things are
essential to life. Without them, life would have no meaning, no purpose,
no benefit, but full of suffering. No one on earth would want to live
under such condition.
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by aaa
We spend our life in this physical world to make our life better,
but what really makes life better are the spiritual things listed
in my signature. We exhaust ourselves to acquire the physical
things in this world, but what can really satisfy us are all
spiritual that has nothing to do with those physical things. We are
going at the wrong direction and looking for the wrong things. This
is why we suffer in life.
You have nothing in your sig that we do not know. Nature has given
them to lives and no one has the right to relegate them to a
non-existent pixie. You do that because you are a stupid theist!!!
No. You only take those spiritual things in your life for granted
because you are distracted by the physical things in your mind. You know
they are part of life, but you never notice that they are not part of
the physical world. If you take time to investigate what they truly are,
you would find a brand new spiritual world beyond your mind.
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by aaa
Post by Yap Honghor
There is no such a thing as a pixie in existence !!!!
You only believe that because you have never paid any attention to
the spiritual. You are only looking for God in this physical world
when you should have looked for God in the spiritual world
instead.
There is no pixie in this world, this universe, this spiritual.....
Because God is a spirit who lives in the spiritual world beyond your mind.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
Robert Carnegie
2018-03-06 21:52:52 UTC
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Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect. I take solace in knowing that no matter what tragedy befalls me, the aftermath will not last forever.
We live in a horrific world--but not the most horrific of all possible worlds. Not by a long shot.
If it isn't like in _Gulliver's Travels_ (certain people don't
die but they get old and infirm and stupid and don't stop),
living forever seems fine to me.
Cloud Hobbit
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I'd only consider living forever if I could be 20-30.
Malcolm McMahon
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I'd only consider living forever if I could be 20-30.
How about re-incarnation? Maybe try a different species for a change?

The waters of Lethe kind of solve the problem of boredom.
Cloud Hobbit
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How about re-incarnation? Maybe try a different species for a change?

The waters of Lethe kind of solve the problem of boredom.
_____________

I don't want to forget everything. I have many memories that I treasure.
Alex W.
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How about re-incarnation? Maybe try a different species for a change?
The waters of Lethe kind of solve the problem of boredom.
_____________
I don't want to forget everything. I have many memories that I treasure.
Memories is why I wouldn't go for the age range of 20-30.

30-40 is much better, IMHO. At that age, we really are in our prime:
fit, young, healthy, and with the invaluable benefit of maturity.
Cloud Hobbit
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Memories is why I wouldn't go for the age range of 20-30.

30-40 is much better, IMHO. At that age, we really are in our prime:
fit, young, healthy, and with the invaluable benefit of maturity. ____________

I was thinking about going into a time and body before Arthritis.
I'd still want the same memories only in a body that didn't attack itself.
Gospel TT
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Memories is why I wouldn't go for the age range of 20-30.
30-40 is much better, IMHO. At that age, we really are in our
fit, young, healthy, and with the invaluable benefit of maturity. ____________
I was thinking about going into a time and body before Arthritis.
I'd still want the same memories only in a body that didn't attack itself.
That sux, sorry to hear you have arthritis.
Cloud Hobbit
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I was thinking about going into a time and body before Arthritis.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
I'd still want the same memories only in a body that didn't attack itself.
That sux, sorry to hear you have arthritis.
_____________________

I know of people who have it much worse. I just wish it had started after my kids were grown.
Jahnu
2018-03-09 08:42:53 UTC
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Post by Gospel TT
That sux, sorry to hear you have arthritis.
Atheists have unevolved intellects and minds. That's why they are such
miserable bastards.

It's actually a statistic fact, that the more godless a sociecty is,
the more insanity, depressesion, crime, murder, rape and alcohol
iincrease in that society.

And before you start shrilling - most Christians and Muhammedans are
godless scum like you.

If God really exists why do all the violence happen?

When humanity collectively choose to live a godless life, the world
becomes a violent affair. The violence in the world is a direct result
of the violent activities performed by humans.

As long as there are slaughter-houses, there will be battlefields. A
vegetarian diet is the acid test of humanitarian. -- Leo Tolstoy
Millions of highly sentient living entities are being slaughtered by
the millions, daily, in high-tech death factories the world over
Who could possibly think there would be no karmic repercussions to
such senseless mass-murder?

Every second on this planet 7000 chicken are being killed by humans
for food. Every second, somewhere in the world a woman or a child is
being raped or murdered. Add to that the billions of cows, pigs and
goats that are being slaughtered every year.

If there is no God, these murders are all just random events that
happen for no other reason than human lust, anger and greed.
If there is God, however, the violence in the world is obviously the
karmic reactions to the violence humans inflict on other living
beings. The modern global culture is a set up of pure evil - viewing
animals as nothing more than meat-racks to be sliced up and consumed.
Naturally, such evil will be punished . We punish ourselves by our
godless activities. God has given us the world to make either heaven
or hell out of, how we use our free will, God couldn't care less.
He has created the law of cause and effect - karma - what we do with
it is up to us.

God forces nobody to be good and act virtuously. Whether good or bad,
it is a person's own doing and God has nothing to do with it.

Krishna says:

O son of Pritha, there is no work prescribed for Me within all the
three planetary systems. Nor am I in want of anything, nor have I a
need to obtain anything - and yet I am engaged in prescribed duties. -
Bg 3.22

For if I ever failed to engage in carefully performing prescribed
duties, O Partha, certainly all men would follow My path. - Bg 3.23

Srila Prabhupada explains:

The Supreme Personality of Godhead is described in the Vedic
literatures as follows:

"The Supreme Lord is the controller of all other controllers, and He
is the greatest of all the diverse planetary leaders. Everyone is
under His control. All entities are delegated with particular power
only by the Supreme Lord; they are not supreme themselves.

"He is also worshipable by all demigods and is the supreme director of
all directors. Therefore, He is transcendental to all kinds of
material leaders and controllers and is worshipable by all. There is
no one greater than Him, and He is the supreme cause of all causes.
"He does not possess bodily form like that of an ordinary living
entity. There is no difference between His body and His soul. He is
absolute. All His senses are transcendental. Any one of His senses can
perform the action of any other sense. Therefore, no one is greater
than Him or equal to Him. His potencies are multifarious, and thus His
deeds are automatically performed as a natural sequence."
(Svetasvatara Upanisad 6.7-8)

Since everything is in full opulence in the Personality of Godhead and
is existing in full truth, there is no duty for the Supreme
Personality of Godhead to perform.

One who must receive the results of work has some designated duty, but
one who has nothing to achieve within the three planetary systems
certainly has no duty.

And yet Lord Krishna is engaged on the Battlefield of Kuruksetra as
the leader of the kshatriyas because the kshatriyas are duty-bound to
give protection to the distressed. Although He is above all the
regulations of the revealed scriptures, He does not do anything that
violates the revealed scriptures.




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https://picasaweb.google.com/113672947796865733014/Jahnu

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http://youtu.be/B46rjU_q_cM
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That sux, sorry to hear you have arthritis.
Atheists have unevolved intellects and minds. That's why they are such
miserable bastards.
It's actually a statistic fact, that the more godless a sociecty is,
the more insanity, depressesion, crime, murder, rape and alcohol
iincrease in that society.
y, in high-tech death factories the world over
Post by Jahnu
Who could possibly think there would be no karmic repercussions to
such senseless mass-murder?
But But Vegetarism arised with the Buddha, before that Hindues ate meat.
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Post by Gospel TT
That sux, sorry to hear you have arthritis.
Atheists have unevolved intellects and minds. That's why they are such
miserable bastards.
Post by Jahnu
It's actually a statistic fact, that the more godless a sociecty is,
the more insanity, depressesion, crime, murder, rape and alcohol
iincrease in that society.
y, in high-tech death factories the world over
Who could possibly think there would be no karmic repercussions to
such senseless mass-murder?
But But Vegetarism arised with the Buddha, before that Hindues ate meat.
Buddha would eat meat when served to him, unless the animal had been
slaughtered specifically for him.
a***@gmail.com
2018-03-10 21:10:12 UTC
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Post by Jahnu
Post by Gospel TT
That sux, sorry to hear you have arthritis.
Atheists have unevolved intellects and minds. That's why they are such
miserable bastards.
Post by Jahnu
It's actually a statistic fact, that the more godless a sociecty is,
the more insanity, depressesion, crime, murder, rape and alcohol
iincrease in that society.
y, in high-tech death factories the world over
Who could possibly think there would be no karmic repercussions to
such senseless mass-murder?
But But Vegetarism arised with the Buddha, before that Hindues ate meat.
Buddha would eat meat when served to him, unless the animal had been
slaughtered specifically for him.
Cite please.
Ted
2018-03-10 21:13:52 UTC
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Post by Gospel TT
That sux, sorry to hear you have arthritis.
Atheists have unevolved intellects and minds. That's why they are such
miserable bastards.
Post by Jahnu
It's actually a statistic fact, that the more godless a sociecty is,
the more insanity, depressesion, crime, murder, rape and alcohol
iincrease in that society.
y, in high-tech death factories the world over
Who could possibly think there would be no karmic repercussions to
such senseless mass-murder?
But But Vegetarism arised with the Buddha, before that Hindues ate meat.
Buddha would eat meat when served to him, unless the animal had been
slaughtered specifically for him.
Cite please.
Steven Hagen, Buddhist priest, in "Buddhism Plain and Simple". It's the
best intro to Buddhism I've ever read.
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Post by Gospel TT
That sux, sorry to hear you have arthritis.
Atheists have unevolved intellects and minds. That's why they are such
miserable bastards.
Post by Jahnu
It's actually a statistic fact, that the more godless a sociecty is,
the more insanity, depressesion, crime, murder, rape and alcohol
iincrease in that society.
y, in high-tech death factories the world over
Who could possibly think there would be no karmic repercussions to
such senseless mass-murder?
But But Vegetarism arised with the Buddha, before that Hindues ate meat.
Buddha would eat meat when served to him, unless the animal had been
slaughtered specifically for him.
Cite please.
Steven Hagen, Buddhist priest, in "Buddhism Plain and Simple". It's the
best intro to Buddhism I've ever read.
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.kibology/imkbGvg8Ci4/X0C3ST4MAQAJ

http://www.maba-usa.org/community/

Don, from the above, gave the small talk. The circumstances are exactly as I explained in the thread.
Have a nice day.

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Memories is why I wouldn't go for the age range of 20-30.
fit, young, healthy, and with the invaluable benefit of maturity. ____________
I was thinking about going into a time and body before Arthritis.
I'd still want the same memories only in a body that didn't attack itself.
Oh, definitely!

A bloody shame if you have early onset arthritis.
Cloud Hobbit
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A bloody shame if you have early onset arthritis.
_____________

I wouldn't call it early it started when I was 30.

Patients at my rheumatologist's office much younger an more severe than me.
j***@gmail.com
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How about re-incarnation? Maybe try a different species for a change?
The waters of Lethe kind of solve the problem of boredom.
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I don't want to forget everything. I have many memories that I treasure.
Memories is why I wouldn't go for the age range of 20-30.
fit, young, healthy, and with the invaluable benefit of maturity.
Now in my mid-forties, I don't yet feel any less fit than ever. Or I'm degrading so gradually that I haven't noticed.
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How about re-incarnation? Maybe try a different species for a change?
The waters of Lethe kind of solve the problem of boredom.
_____________
I don't want to forget everything. I have many memories that I treasure.
Memories is why I wouldn't go for the age range of 20-30.
fit, young, healthy, and with the invaluable benefit of maturity.
Now in my mid-forties, I don't yet feel any less fit than ever. Or I'm
degrading so gradually that I haven't noticed.
I'm in my 60s and haven't yet noticed much of a difference.
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How about re-incarnation? Maybe try a different species for a change?
The waters of Lethe kind of solve the problem of boredom.
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I don't want to forget everything. I have many memories that I treasure.
Memories is why I wouldn't go for the age range of 20-30.
fit, young, healthy, and with the invaluable benefit of maturity.
Now in my mid-forties, I don't yet feel any less fit than ever. Or I'm
degrading so gradually that I haven't noticed.
I'm in my 60s and haven't yet noticed much of a difference
........

The one thing that I do notice as I age--I am less willing to jump down from high places.
Malcolm McMahon
2018-03-08 08:56:37 UTC
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How about re-incarnation? Maybe try a different species for a change?
The waters of Lethe kind of solve the problem of boredom.
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I don't want to forget everything. I have many memories that I treasure.
The memories of many lifetimes would, presumably, be quite a burden.
Cloud Hobbit
2018-03-08 10:27:09 UTC
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How about re-incarnation? Maybe try a different species for a change?
The waters of Lethe kind of solve the problem of boredom.
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I don't want to forget everything. I have many memories that I treasure.
The memories of many lifetimes would, presumably, be quite a burden.
I'm willing to chance it.
Your Founding Fathers Erred
2018-03-07 18:48:46 UTC
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Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect. I take solace in knowing that no matter what tragedy befalls me, the aftermath will not last forever.
We live in a horrific world--but not the most horrific of all possible worlds. Not by a long shot.
So don't be sobbing when your loved ones pass...
j***@gmail.com
2018-03-07 19:27:10 UTC
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Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect. I take solace in knowing that no matter what tragedy befalls me, the aftermath will not last forever.
We live in a horrific world--but not the most horrific of all possible worlds. Not by a long shot.
So don't be sobbing when your loved ones pass...
The idea is that the sobbing need not continue forever.
Atlatl Axolotl
2018-03-07 19:35:09 UTC
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Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect. I take solace in knowing that no matter what tragedy befalls me, the aftermath will not last forever.
.> > We live in a horrific world--but not the most horrific of all possible worlds. Not by a long shot.
.> So don't be sobbing when your loved ones pass...

Oh? Then believers who think their loved ones have gone to a better place
shouldn't be sobbing either. They should be laughing and dancing
and shouting with delight whenever a loved one dies.


AA
Gospel TT
2018-03-08 00:09:29 UTC
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On Monday, March 5, 2018 at 11:40:14 PM UTC-5,
Post by j***@gmail.com
Eternal consciousness is a terrifying prospect. I take solace
in knowing that no matter what tragedy befalls me, the aftermath will
not last forever.
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
.> > We live in a horrific world--but not the most horrific of all
possible worlds. Not by a long shot.
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
.> So don't be sobbing when your loved ones pass...
Oh? Then believers who think their loved ones have gone to a
better place
Post by Atlatl Axolotl
shouldn't be sobbing either. They should be laughing and dancing
and shouting with delight whenever a loved one dies.
AA
Just cause they believe something don't mean they believe it.
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