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Mary The Roman Catholic Queen Of Hell - Part 1
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b***@gmail.com
2018-01-05 03:24:06 UTC
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Duke continually refuses to address the message found in every video.

He merely attacks, via ad hominem, the messenger who posts the message.

But I have no problem with that. For by not attempting to refute the message,
the coward is indirectly admitting his conviction that the message is true.

If he could refute the message, he would.

But you'll notice he doesn't even try.

He doesn't even try to refute it.

That's all anyone needs to know about Duke.

That type of person is universally known as a coward and a fraud.
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a322x1n
2018-01-05 15:45:24 UTC
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Stuff it, Bob!
duke
2018-01-05 19:32:31 UTC
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Duke continually refuses to address the message found in every video.
Revelations says she's queen of heaven - heeheehee.

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Teresita
2018-01-06 00:20:54 UTC
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Revelations says she's queen of heaven - heeheehee.
No, you say the woman described in Revelation 12 is Mary. Different story.
duke
2018-01-07 20:59:00 UTC
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Revelations says she's queen of heaven - heeheehee.
No, you say the woman described in Revelation 12 is Mary. Different story.
Hints:
1. Crown of twelve stars = queen of King typically = mother.
2. Give birth = Jesus
3. Son to rule all ages with iron rod (prophecy from OT)


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Teresita
2018-01-07 22:32:05 UTC
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Revelations says she's queen of heaven - heeheehee.
No, you say the woman described in Revelation 12 is Mary. Different story.
1. Crown of twelve stars = queen of King typically = mother.
2. Give birth = Jesus
3. Son to rule all ages with iron rod (prophecy from OT)
Oh, I was thrown off by:

4. And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with
the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have
the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Because you said Mary was ever-virgin, and so there was no "remnant of
her seed".
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TT Liams
2018-01-08 20:19:51 UTC
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Revelations says she's queen of heaven - heeheehee.
No, you say the woman described in Revelation 12 is Mary. Different story.
1. Crown of twelve stars = queen of King typically = mother.
2. Give birth = Jesus
3. Son to rule all ages with iron rod (prophecy from OT)
4. And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with
the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have
the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Because you said Mary was ever-virgin, and so there was no "remnant of
her seed".
Catholics are liars that say mary was always a virgin.
Teresita
2018-01-14 22:53:07 UTC
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Catholics are liars that say mary was always a virgin.
The very concept of virginity was invented by men who thought the penis
is so important it could fundamentally change who a woman is.
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Ted
2018-01-14 23:17:27 UTC
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Catholics are liars that say mary was always a virgin.
The very concept of virginity was invented by men who thought the penis
is so important it could fundamentally change who a woman is.
That's the best description I've ever read.
Kevrob
2018-01-16 16:43:19 UTC
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Catholics are liars that say mary was always a virgin.
The very concept of virginity was invented by men who thought the penis
is so important it could fundamentally change who a woman is.
That's the best description I've ever read.
Well, the introduction of the penis made a previously
sexually inactive woman a possible mother. One usually
has to wait a minimum of 9 months to find out if that
particular physiological process bears any fruit. In
societies where paternity and patrilineality are big deals,
virginity before marriage is as close as one can come to a
guarantee that Dad isn't raising some other guy's child.
In the extreme this leads to treating virgin daughters as
valuable property to be traded to families with sons needing
wives, etc. Could a man still be cuckolded by his "virgin
bride?" Sure, but social controls placed on women were supposed
to make this difficult for the interloping sire.

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duke
2018-01-15 22:33:40 UTC
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Catholics are liars that say mary was always a virgin.
The very concept of virginity was invented by men who thought the penis
is so important it could fundamentally change who a woman is.
What, not who.

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Teresita
2018-01-15 22:52:03 UTC
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Catholics are liars that say mary was always a virgin.
The very concept of virginity was invented by men who thought the penis
is so important it could fundamentally change who a woman is.
What, not who.
Human beings are always whos, never whats.
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duke
2018-01-16 14:08:04 UTC
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Catholics are liars that say mary was always a virgin.
The very concept of virginity was invented by men who thought the penis
is so important it could fundamentally change who a woman is.
What, not who.
Human beings are always whos, never whats.
No, what.

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Kevrob
2018-01-16 16:59:08 UTC
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Catholics are liars that say mary was always a virgin.
The very concept of virginity was invented by men who thought the penis
is so important it could fundamentally change who a woman is.
What, not who.
Human beings are always whos, never whats.
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Perhaps he's never heard the old saw:
"treat people as subjects, not objects"

We are persons, not just things.

Kevin R
duke
2018-01-17 20:52:04 UTC
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Catholics are liars that say mary was always a virgin.
The very concept of virginity was invented by men who thought the penis
is so important it could fundamentally change who a woman is.
What, not who.
Human beings are always whos, never whats.
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"treat people as subjects, not objects"
We are persons, not just things.
Then you better clean up your ways and act like it.
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Kevin R
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Kevrob
2018-01-17 21:03:11 UTC
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"treat people as subjects, not objects"
We are persons, not just things.
Then you better clean up your ways and act like it.
I'm perfectly happy with my "ways." You, on the other hand, Mr Judgy McJudgypants, ought to look to your own, rather than trying to preach
to those who neither believe nor respect you, you troll, you.

Kevin R
duke
2018-01-18 13:04:21 UTC
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"treat people as subjects, not objects"
We are persons, not just things.
Then you better clean up your ways and act like it.
I'm perfectly happy with my "ways." You, on the other hand, Mr Judgy McJudgypants, ought to look to your own, rather than trying to preach
to those who neither believe nor respect you, you troll, you.
The silent floundering is my interest and concern. It sounds like you already
signed your satan contract and satisfied with it.
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Kevin R
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Don Martin
2018-01-17 22:41:57 UTC
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Catholics are liars that say mary was always a virgin.
The very concept of virginity was invented by men who thought the penis
is so important it could fundamentally change who a woman is.
What, not who.
Human beings are always whos, never whats.
I consider our trolls, Doook included, as its.
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Teresita
2018-01-17 23:25:45 UTC
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Catholics are liars that say mary was always a virgin.
The very concept of virginity was invented by men who thought the penis
is so important it could fundamentally change who a woman is.
What, not who.
Human beings are always whos, never whats.
I consider our trolls, Doook included, as its.
I can't go there. Taoism has a "golden rule" and unlike Duke, I
actually practice it.
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2018-01-18 13:08:26 UTC
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Catholics are liars that say mary was always a virgin.
The very concept of virginity was invented by men who thought the penis
is so important it could fundamentally change who a woman is.
What, not who.
Human beings are always whos, never whats.
I consider our trolls, Doook included, as its.
I can't go there. Taoism has a "golden rule" and unlike Duke, I
actually practice it.
The way some respond, confusing them with `bot programs
is understandable.

Kevin R
duke
2018-01-19 13:19:48 UTC
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Catholics are liars that say mary was always a virgin.
The very concept of virginity was invented by men who thought the penis
is so important it could fundamentally change who a woman is.
What, not who.
Human beings are always whos, never whats.
I consider our trolls, Doook included, as its.
I can't go there. Taoism has a "golden rule" and unlike Duke, I
actually practice it.
The way some respond, confusing them with `bot programs
is understandable.
You're lost the ng to the kids.

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duke
2018-01-18 13:09:16 UTC
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Catholics are liars that say mary was always a virgin.
The very concept of virginity was invented by men who thought the penis
is so important it could fundamentally change who a woman is.
What, not who.
Human beings are always whos, never whats.
I consider our trolls, Doook included, as its.
I can't go there. Taoism has a "golden rule" and unlike Duke, I
actually practice it.
Well, you are a hugh step up from the tittie boys.

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Don Martin
2018-01-18 23:25:21 UTC
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Catholics are liars that say mary was always a virgin.
The very concept of virginity was invented by men who thought the penis
is so important it could fundamentally change who a woman is.
What, not who.
Human beings are always whos, never whats.
I consider our trolls, Doook included, as its.
I can't go there. Taoism has a "golden rule" and unlike Duke, I
actually practice it.
Luckily for my misanthropic streak, I am not a Taoist.
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duke
2018-01-18 13:06:31 UTC
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Catholics are liars that say mary was always a virgin.
The very concept of virginity was invented by men who thought the penis
is so important it could fundamentally change who a woman is.
What, not who.
Human beings are always whos, never whats.
I consider our trolls, Doook included, as its.
"What" is that which you elect to throw away your life on.

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duke
2018-01-10 23:08:31 UTC
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Revelations says she's queen of heaven - heeheehee.
No, you say the woman described in Revelation 12 is Mary. Different story.
1. Crown of twelve stars = queen of King typically = mother.
2. Give birth = Jesus
3. Son to rule all ages with iron rod (prophecy from OT)
4. And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with
the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have
the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Because you said Mary was ever-virgin, and so there was no "remnant of
her seed".
I guess you'll have decide for yourself what "remnant" means.

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Teresita
2018-01-11 01:46:24 UTC
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Revelations says she's queen of heaven - heeheehee.
No, you say the woman described in Revelation 12 is Mary. Different story.
1. Crown of twelve stars = queen of King typically = mother.
2. Give birth = Jesus
3. Son to rule all ages with iron rod (prophecy from OT)
4. And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with
the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have
the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Because you said Mary was ever-virgin, and so there was no "remnant of
her seed".
I guess you'll have decide for yourself what "remnant" means.
It means the children of Mary left over after Jesus floated into the sky.
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duke
2018-01-11 19:08:14 UTC
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Revelations says she's queen of heaven - heeheehee.
No, you say the woman described in Revelation 12 is Mary. Different story.
1. Crown of twelve stars = queen of King typically = mother.
2. Give birth = Jesus
3. Son to rule all ages with iron rod (prophecy from OT)
4. And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with
the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have
the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Because you said Mary was ever-virgin, and so there was no "remnant of
her seed".
I guess you'll have decide for yourself what "remnant" means.
It means the children of Mary left over after Jesus floated into the sky.
Mary is the mother of us all.

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Teresita
2018-01-12 02:22:00 UTC
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Mary is the mother of us all.
I thought that was Eve, aka Hava, aka Chava.
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duke
2018-01-12 19:31:19 UTC
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Mary is the mother of us all.
I thought that was Eve, aka Hava, aka Chava.
Eve is the first sinner. Mary is the mother of us all. Of course, if you want
eve, go for it.

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Teresita
2018-01-12 20:53:39 UTC
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Mary is the mother of us all.
I thought that was Eve, aka Hava, aka Chava.
Eve is the first sinner. Mary is the mother of us all.
How can Mary be the mother of people who were born before Mary?
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duke
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Mary is the mother of us all.
I thought that was Eve, aka Hava, aka Chava.
Eve is the first sinner. Mary is the mother of us all.
How can Mary be the mother of people who were born before Mary?
She's the mother of Jesus and he is our brother. You literal simpletons just
can't get it.

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Atlatl Axolotl
2018-02-24 20:14:23 UTC
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Mary is the mother of us all.
I thought that was Eve, aka Hava, aka Chava.
.> > Eve is the first sinner. Mary is the mother of us all.
.> How can Mary be the mother of people who were born before Mary?

Hang on, I'm still reeling from learning that a third of all stars
fell to earth when Jesus was born.

Even one star, you'd think people would have noticed.
Would have made Chicxulub look like a damp squib.

AA
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Post by duke
Mary is the mother of us all.
I thought that was Eve, aka Hava, aka Chava.
.> > Eve is the first sinner. Mary is the mother of us all.
.> How can Mary be the mother of people who were born before Mary?
Hang on, I'm still reeling from learning that a third of all stars
fell to earth when Jesus was born.
Even one star, you'd think people would have noticed.
Would have made Chicxulub look like a damp squib.
AA
You don't no the Bible as good as me so I'll explain it to you. See,
star's was lot's smaller back in them day's cause ppl didn't know how
big they was, and there was only as many as you can see cause
telescope's wasn't invented yet. So it wouldn't even of been as big
as Chicxulub but it still caused mass extinction's of non-virgin
Midianite's & Amalekite's that ppl that aren't Christian alway's
blame on God.
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Post by duke
Mary is the mother of us all.
I thought that was Eve, aka Hava, aka Chava.
.> > Eve is the first sinner. Mary is the mother of us all.
.> How can Mary be the mother of people who were born before Mary?
.> > Hang on, I'm still reeling from learning that a third of all stars
.> > fell to earth when Jesus was born.
.> > Even one star, you'd think people would have noticed.
.> > Would have made Chicxulub look like a damp squib.
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AA
.> You don't no the Bible as good as me so I'll explain it to you. See,
.> star's was lot's smaller back in them day's cause ppl didn't know how
.> big they was, and there was only as many as you can see cause
.> telescope's wasn't invented yet. So it wouldn't even of been as big
.> as Chicxulub but it still caused mass extinction's of non-virgin
.> Midianite's & Amalekite's that ppl that aren't Christian alway's
.> blame on God.

Ah! It makes sense now. You are a gentleman and a scholar.

AA
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Post by duke
Mary is the mother of us all.
I thought that was Eve, aka Hava, aka Chava.
.> > Eve is the first sinner. Mary is the mother of us all.
.> How can Mary be the mother of people who were born before Mary?
.> > Hang on, I'm still reeling from learning that a third of all stars
.> > fell to earth when Jesus was born.
.> > Even one star, you'd think people would have noticed.
.> > Would have made Chicxulub look like a damp squib.
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AA
.> You don't no the Bible as good as me so I'll explain it to you. See,
.> star's was lot's smaller back in them day's cause ppl didn't know how
.> big they was, and there was only as many as you can see cause
.> telescope's wasn't invented yet. So it wouldn't even of been as big
.> as Chicxulub but it still caused mass extinction's of non-virgin
.> Midianite's & Amalekite's that ppl that aren't Christian alway's
.> blame on God.
Ah! It makes sense now. You are a gentleman and a scholar.
AA
Tnx Axolotl. That's an old phrase I herd before but don't no where it
come's from. :-)
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2018-02-24 19:48:25 UTC
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Mary is the mother of us all.
I thought that was Eve, aka Hava, aka Chava.
Eve is the first sinner.
To sin you have to know it's wrong. Eve didn't know it was wrong until
she ate the fruit.
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2018-02-24 20:07:52 UTC
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Mary is the mother of us all.
I thought that was Eve, aka Hava, aka Chava.
.> > Eve is the first sinner.
.> To sin you have to know it's wrong. Eve didn't know it was wrong until
.> she ate the fruit.

Which, of course, never happened, as Father Earl has informed us
that Adam and Eve were just ways of saying mankind and father of mankind.
So she who never actually was is off the hook.

Besides, it was "pre history".

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duke
2018-03-01 23:40:24 UTC
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Mary is the mother of us all.
I thought that was Eve, aka Hava, aka Chava.
.> > Eve is the first sinner.
.> To sin you have to know it's wrong. Eve didn't know it was wrong until
.> she ate the fruit.
Which, of course, never happened, as Father Earl has informed us
that Adam and Eve were just ways of saying mankind and father of mankind.
So she who never actually was is off the hook.
Besides, it was "pre history".
And the reason you need water baptism to be redeemed from slavery to sin.

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aaa
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Mary is the mother of us all.
I thought that was Eve, aka Hava, aka Chava.
Eve is the first sinner.
To sin you have to know it's wrong. Eve didn't know it was wrong until
she ate the fruit.
Wrong. If one knows it's wrong, one would never sin. We only sin when we
don't know better. The cause of sin is always our own ignorance. It's
why we must search for the Bible truth because only the knowledge of
truth can eliminate our human ignorance.
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2018-02-25 23:44:39 UTC
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Mary is the mother of us all.
I thought that was Eve, aka Hava, aka Chava.
Eve is the first sinner.
To sin you have to know it's wrong. Eve didn't know it was wrong until
she ate the fruit.
Wrong. If one knows it's wrong, one would never sin. We only sin when we
don't know better.
That's not what the Catechism of the Catholic Church says, you stupid
Dork.

CCC 1857 For a sin to be mortal, three conditions must together be met:
"Mortal sin is sin whose object is grave matter and which is also
committed with full knowledge and deliberate consent."

Eve did not have full knowledge that what she was doing was wrong, since
the knowledge of good and evil was conferred by eating the fruit.
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Mary is the mother of us all.
I thought that was Eve, aka Hava, aka Chava.
Eve is the first sinner.
To sin you have to know it's wrong. Eve didn't know it was wrong until
she ate the fruit.
Wrong. If one knows it's wrong, one would never sin. We only sin when we
don't know better.
That's not what the Catechism of the Catholic Church says, you stupid
Dork.
"Mortal sin is sin whose object is grave matter and which is also
committed with full knowledge and deliberate consent."
That's about mortal sin. I'm talking about the original sin and the sins
in general that will ultimately lead to mortal sin.

For human beings like us, not yet committing the mortal sin isn't
something to brag about. We need to repent all of our sins by finding
out why we have sinned, and how to keep ourselves from committing the
same sin the second time. This is the real purpose of repentance.

The ultimate solution to stop and eliminate all sins is God himself, but
we will never reach such solution unless we have done our own homework.
Post by teresita
Eve did not have full knowledge that what she was doing was wrong, since
the knowledge of good and evil was conferred by eating the fruit.
The original sin isn't mortal. That only shows that God is forgiving and
patient who allows us to learn from our mistakes. If we don't learn from
our mistakes, our luck will run out when God turns away from us to allow
us to fall into mortal sin.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
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2018-02-26 11:48:38 UTC
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The original sin isn't mortal.
Not mortal? So eating the fruit did not kill Adam and Eve? That's not
what God said.

Genesis 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou
shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt
surely die.
--
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Bob
2018-02-26 12:35:04 UTC
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The original sin isn't mortal.
Not mortal? So eating the fruit did not kill Adam and Eve? That's not
what God said.
No, that's what you read in the imperfect English translation of the perfect
Hebrew autograph.

To understand what the Hebrew language meant in Genesis 2:17, one should
read this:

https://answersingenesis.org/death-before-sin/did-death-of-any-kind-exist-before-the-fall/
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The original sin isn't mortal.
Not mortal? So eating the fruit did not kill Adam and Eve? That's not
what God said.
No, that's what you read in the imperfect English translation of the perfect
Hebrew autograph.
To understand what the Hebrew language meant in Genesis 2:17, one should
https://answersingenesis.org/death-before-sin/did-death-of-any-kind-exist-before-the-fall/
What are Simon Turpin's scholarly qualifications?

Looks to me like his only claim to fame is the degree in theology.
Don Martin
2018-02-26 23:37:12 UTC
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The original sin isn't mortal.
Not mortal? So eating the fruit did not kill Adam and Eve? That's not
what God said.
No, that's what you read in the imperfect English translation of the perfect
Hebrew autograph.
To understand what the Hebrew language meant in Genesis 2:17, one should
https://answersingenesis.org/death-before-sin/did-death-of-any-kind-exist-before-the-fall/
What are Simon Turpin's scholarly qualifications?
Looks to me like his only claim to fame is the degree in theology.
Theology, from theos + logos = knowledge about god(s). Until and
unless the existence of any god has been demonstrated by credible
evidence, that degree is essentially the knowledge of nothing.
--
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
Je pense, donc je suis Charlie.
Alex W.
2018-02-26 23:54:59 UTC
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The original sin isn't mortal.
Not mortal? So eating the fruit did not kill Adam and Eve? That's not
what God said.
No, that's what you read in the imperfect English translation of the perfect
Hebrew autograph.
To understand what the Hebrew language meant in Genesis 2:17, one should
https://answersingenesis.org/death-before-sin/did-death-of-any-kind-exist-before-the-fall/
What are Simon Turpin's scholarly qualifications?
Looks to me like his only claim to fame is the degree in theology.
Theology, from theos + logos = knowledge about god(s). Until and
unless the existence of any god has been demonstrated by credible
evidence, that degree is essentially the knowledge of nothing.
As amply demonstrated by so many believers...
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Post by teresita
Post by aaa
The original sin isn't mortal.
Not mortal? So eating the fruit did not kill Adam and Eve? That's not
what God said.
No, that's what you read in the imperfect English translation of the perfect
Hebrew autograph.
To understand what the Hebrew language meant in Genesis 2:17, one should
https://answersingenesis.org/death-before-sin/did-death-of-any-kind-exist-before-the-fall/
What are Simon Turpin's scholarly qualifications?
Looks to me like his only claim to fame is the degree in theology.
Theology, from theos + logos = knowledge about god(s). Until and
unless the existence of any god has been demonstrated by credible
evidence, that degree is essentially the knowledge of nothing.
I've often wondered how they can call it theology when they start with
the premise that there's only one god, or the Christian triplet god.
Seems to me they'd have to study all gods before they could call it
theology.
teresita
2018-02-27 02:41:51 UTC
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I've often wondered how they can call it theology when they start with
the premise that there's only one god, or the Christian triplet god.
Seems to me they'd have to study all gods before they could call it
theology.
It seems to me you'd have to actually have at least one god, any god,
before you could even have the study of gods. What they have right now
is basically no different from Entology, the study of Ents, using The Two
Towers as scripture.
--
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Alex W.
2018-02-27 03:53:37 UTC
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I've often wondered how they can call it theology when they start with
the premise that there's only one god, or the Christian triplet god.
Seems to me they'd have to study all gods before they could call it
theology.
It seems to me you'd have to actually have at least one god, any god,
before you could even have the study of gods. What they have right now
is basically no different from Entology, the study of Ents, using The Two
Towers as scripture.
Not really.

Philosophy has been quite happily plodding along for millennia creating,
studying, dissecting, demolishing and then rebuilding entire worlds of
thought ... without ever being overly bothered by any necessity for
these to actually exist or be in any way connected to reality.

What's more, you can be the atheist love-child of Hitchens and Dawkins
and still quite successfully study gods in terms of sociology,
anthropology, history, art history, neuropsychology, economics and many
other -ologies that take your fancy. We do not have to see a god or
even believe in them in order to see the effects they are having on us
poor benighted humans.
Kevrob
2018-02-27 23:36:16 UTC
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I've often wondered how they can call it theology when they start with
the premise that there's only one god, or the Christian triplet god.
Seems to me they'd have to study all gods before they could call it
theology.
It seems to me you'd have to actually have at least one god, any god,
before you could even have the study of gods. What they have right now
is basically no different from Entology, the study of Ents, using The Two
Towers as scripture.
Not really.
Philosophy has been quite happily plodding along for millennia creating,
studying, dissecting, demolishing and then rebuilding entire worlds of
thought ... without ever being overly bothered by any necessity for
these to actually exist or be in any way connected to reality.
What's more, you can be the atheist love-child of Hitchens and Dawkins
and still quite successfully study gods in terms of sociology,
anthropology, history, art history, neuropsychology, economics and many
other -ologies that take your fancy. We do not have to see a god or
even believe in them in order to see the effects they are having on us
poor benighted humans.
In which case, it is usually referred to as "religious studies"
rather than as "theology." There's also "philosophy of religion,"
especially at state schools trying to have somewhere those who
might otherwise matriculate at a religious institution with a
theology department can fit in, so they get to earn a B.A. at
the subsidized rates before they head on to a seminary or a
divinity school and training to be clergy.

In the US, I'd say those are shocking First Amendment violations.

Kevin R
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2018-02-27 12:52:52 UTC
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I've often wondered how they can call it theology when they start with
the premise that there's only one god, or the Christian triplet god.
Seems to me they'd have to study all gods before they could call it
theology.
It seems to me you'd have to actually have at least one god, any god,
before you could even have the study of gods. What they have right now
is basically no different from Entology, the study of Ents, using The Two
Towers as scripture.
You got me there. Ear Nose and Throat?
Alex W.
2018-02-27 23:12:40 UTC
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I've often wondered how they can call it theology when they start with
the premise that there's only one god, or the Christian triplet god.
Seems to me they'd have to study all gods before they could call it
theology.
It seems to me you'd have to actually have at least one god, any god,
before you could even have the study of gods. What they have right now
is basically no different from Entology, the study of Ents, using The Two
Towers as scripture.
You got me there. Ear Nose and Throat?
No ... it's the study of dyslexic ants.
teresita
2018-02-27 02:21:02 UTC
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The original sin isn't mortal.
Not mortal? So eating the fruit did not kill Adam and Eve? That's not
what God said.
No, that's what you read in the imperfect English translation of the
perfect Hebrew autograph.
I use only the King James Bible, written in King James English just like
Jesus talked.
--
https://twitter.com/LinuxGal
Gospel TT
2018-02-27 23:58:12 UTC
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The original sin isn't mortal.
Not mortal? So eating the fruit did not kill Adam and Eve?
That's not
Post by teresita
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Post by teresita
what God said.
No, that's what you read in the imperfect English translation of the
perfect Hebrew autograph.
I use only the King James Bible, written in King James English just like
Jesus talked.
Me too cause that's the original word's of Jesus.
Don Martin
2018-02-28 23:43:19 UTC
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The original sin isn't mortal.
Not mortal? So eating the fruit did not kill Adam and Eve?
That's not
Post by teresita
Post by Bob
Post by teresita
what God said.
No, that's what you read in the imperfect English translation of
the
Post by teresita
Post by Bob
perfect Hebrew autograph.
I use only the King James Bible, written in King James English just
like
Post by teresita
Jesus talked.
Me too cause that's the original word's of Jesus.
The original words of Jesus (if he actually existed at all) were very
probably _not_ in Jacobean English.
--
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
Je pense, donc je suis Charlie.
Alex W.
2018-03-01 00:49:36 UTC
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On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 18:58:12 -0500, Gospel TT
Post by teresita
Post by teresita
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Post by teresita
Post by aaa
The original sin isn't mortal.
Not mortal? So eating the fruit did not kill Adam and Eve?
That's not
Post by teresita
Post by Bob
Post by teresita
what God said.
No, that's what you read in the imperfect English translation of
the
Post by teresita
Post by Bob
perfect Hebrew autograph.
I use only the King James Bible, written in King James English just
like
Post by teresita
Jesus talked.
Me too cause that's the original word's of Jesus.
The original words of Jesus (if he actually existed at all) were very
probably _not_ in Jacobean English.
Jesus would have spoken Aramaic like a peasant from Syria, Iraq or Lebanon.

He would have looked like any of the rock-throwing Palestinians (albeit
somewhat on the short side).

For some reason, this appears to upset not a few true-blue upstanding
god-fearing Americans....
Don Martin
2018-03-01 23:29:32 UTC
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Post by teresita
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The original sin isn't mortal.
Not mortal? So eating the fruit did not kill Adam and Eve?
That's not
Post by teresita
Post by Bob
Post by teresita
what God said.
No, that's what you read in the imperfect English translation of
the
Post by teresita
Post by Bob
perfect Hebrew autograph.
I use only the King James Bible, written in King James English just
like
Post by teresita
Jesus talked.
Me too cause that's the original word's of Jesus.
The original words of Jesus (if he actually existed at all) were very
probably _not_ in Jacobean English.
Jesus would have spoken Aramaic like a peasant from Syria, Iraq or Lebanon.
He would have looked like any of the rock-throwing Palestinians (albeit
somewhat on the short side).
For some reason, this appears to upset not a few true-blue upstanding
god-fearing Americans....
....who are pretty thin-skinned about their racism.
--
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
Je pense, donc je suis Charlie.
Alex W.
2018-03-02 00:13:55 UTC
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Post by teresita
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Post by teresita
Post by aaa
The original sin isn't mortal.
Not mortal? So eating the fruit did not kill Adam and Eve?
That's not
Post by teresita
Post by Bob
Post by teresita
what God said.
No, that's what you read in the imperfect English translation of
the
Post by teresita
Post by Bob
perfect Hebrew autograph.
I use only the King James Bible, written in King James English just
like
Post by teresita
Jesus talked.
Me too cause that's the original word's of Jesus.
The original words of Jesus (if he actually existed at all) were very
probably _not_ in Jacobean English.
Jesus would have spoken Aramaic like a peasant from Syria, Iraq or Lebanon.
He would have looked like any of the rock-throwing Palestinians (albeit
somewhat on the short side).
For some reason, this appears to upset not a few true-blue upstanding
god-fearing Americans....
....who are pretty thin-skinned about their racism.
Of course!
Can you fault them?
After all, it's all Obama's fault!
Don Martin
2018-03-02 12:23:37 UTC
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Post by teresita
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Post by teresita
Post by aaa
The original sin isn't mortal.
Not mortal? So eating the fruit did not kill Adam and Eve?
That's not
Post by teresita
Post by Bob
Post by teresita
what God said.
No, that's what you read in the imperfect English translation of
the
Post by teresita
Post by Bob
perfect Hebrew autograph.
I use only the King James Bible, written in King James English just
like
Post by teresita
Jesus talked.
Me too cause that's the original word's of Jesus.
The original words of Jesus (if he actually existed at all) were very
probably _not_ in Jacobean English.
Jesus would have spoken Aramaic like a peasant from Syria, Iraq or Lebanon.
He would have looked like any of the rock-throwing Palestinians (albeit
somewhat on the short side).
For some reason, this appears to upset not a few true-blue upstanding
god-fearing Americans....
....who are pretty thin-skinned about their racism.
Of course!
Can you fault them?
After all, it's all Obama's fault!
Absolutely flaunting the color of his skin while in office! The man
had no shame.
--
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
Je pense, donc je suis Charlie.
Gospel TT
2018-03-01 01:04:04 UTC
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Post by teresita
Post by teresita
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Post by teresita
Post by aaa
The original sin isn't mortal.
Not mortal? So eating the fruit did not kill Adam and Eve?
That's not
Post by teresita
Post by Bob
Post by teresita
what God said.
No, that's what you read in the imperfect English translation of
the
Post by teresita
Post by Bob
perfect Hebrew autograph.
I use only the King James Bible, written in King James English just
like
Post by teresita
Jesus talked.
Me too cause that's the original word's of Jesus.
The original words of Jesus (if he actually existed at all) were very
probably _not_ in Jacobean English.
But they must of been cause he lived along time ago. Nowaday's Jesus
speak's modern English but not back then. You need to learn some
history.
Mitchell Holman
2018-03-01 01:16:02 UTC
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Post by teresita
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The original sin isn't mortal.
Not mortal? So eating the fruit did not kill Adam and Eve?
That's not
Post by teresita
Post by Bob
Post by teresita
what God said.
No, that's what you read in the imperfect English translation of
the
Post by teresita
Post by Bob
perfect Hebrew autograph.
I use only the King James Bible, written in King James English just
like
Post by teresita
Jesus talked.
Me too cause that's the original word's of Jesus.
The original words of Jesus (if he actually existed at all) were very
probably _not_ in Jacobean English.
"If English was good enough for Jesus Christ,
it is good enough for Texas schoolchildren"
Miriam "Ma" Ferguson, Texas governor, 1924
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2018-03-01 01:48:15 UTC
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"If English was good enough for Jesus Christ,
it is good enough for Texas schoolchildren" Miriam "Ma" Ferguson, Texas
governor, 1924
http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/003084.html

"Considering how the quote in all its variants has been used primarily to
ridicule the backwardness of unnamed Christians (a farmer, a pious
deacon, and so forth) wary of new approaches to the Bible, I highly doubt
Ma Ferguson ever said it — or if she did, she probably would have said it
in self-effacing jest. My guess is that this was a free-floating bit of
preacher humor that unfairly got attached to Ma Ferguson, much as Winston
Churchill attracts various apocryphal witticisms."
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2018-03-01 02:02:29 UTC
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Post by teresita
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Post by teresita
Post by aaa
The original sin isn't mortal.
Not mortal? So eating the fruit did not kill Adam and Eve?
That's not
Post by teresita
Post by Bob
Post by teresita
what God said.
No, that's what you read in the imperfect English translation of
the
Post by teresita
Post by Bob
perfect Hebrew autograph.
I use only the King James Bible, written in King James English just
like
Post by teresita
Jesus talked.
Me too cause that's the original word's of Jesus.
The original words of Jesus (if he actually existed at all) were very
probably _not_ in Jacobean English.
"If English was good enough for Jesus Christ,
it is good enough for Texas schoolchildren"
Miriam "Ma" Ferguson, Texas governor, 1924
That governor must of been educated enough to no that King James rote
down the exact word's spoke by Jesus.
duke
2018-03-01 23:48:19 UTC
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The original sin isn't mortal.
Not mortal? So eating the fruit did not kill Adam and Eve? That's not
what God said.
No, that's what you read in the imperfect English translation of the
perfect Hebrew autograph.
I use only the King James Bible, written in King James English just like
Jesus talked.
Yeah, right. The kjv was written from earlier languages, and Jesus never spoke
old Elizabethan English.

the dukester, American-American


*****
The Purpose of scripture is not to inform,
but to form, not to teach but to live.

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2018-03-02 04:11:50 UTC
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The original sin isn't mortal.
Not mortal? So eating the fruit did not kill Adam and Eve?
That's not
Post by duke
Post by teresita
Post by Bob
Post by teresita
what God said.
No, that's what you read in the imperfect English translation of the
perfect Hebrew autograph.
I use only the King James Bible, written in King James English just like
Jesus talked.
Yeah, right. The kjv was written from earlier languages, and Jesus never spoke
old Elizabethan English.
Your rite Jesus didn't speak Elizabethan but are pastor say's the
KJV is the original word's of Jesus & that was before America got
free from England & that's why it's harder to understand then
american & so modern version's are easier to understand but there not
as accurate & that's why we always use KJV.
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2018-03-02 10:51:50 UTC
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The original sin isn't mortal.
Not mortal? So eating the fruit did not kill Adam and Eve?
That's not
Post by duke
Post by teresita
Post by Bob
Post by teresita
what God said.
No, that's what you read in the imperfect English translation of
the
Post by duke
Post by teresita
Post by Bob
perfect Hebrew autograph.
I use only the King James Bible, written in King James English
just like
Post by duke
Post by teresita
Jesus talked.
Yeah, right. The kjv was written from earlier languages, and Jesus
never spoke
Post by duke
old Elizabethan English.
Your rite Jesus didn't speak Elizabethan but are pastor say's the
KJV is the original word's of Jesus & that was before America got
free from England & that's why it's harder to understand then
american & so modern version's are easier to understand but there not
as accurate & that's why we always use KJV.
Unless you happen to be a scholar in Aramaic and Ancient Hebrew, and
had studied the original script for most of your life, how could you
defend that opinion?
Gospel TT
2018-03-02 22:28:26 UTC
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The original sin isn't mortal.
Not mortal? So eating the fruit did not kill Adam and Eve?
That's not
Post by duke
Post by teresita
Post by Bob
Post by teresita
what God said.
No, that's what you read in the imperfect English translation of
the
Post by duke
Post by teresita
Post by Bob
perfect Hebrew autograph.
I use only the King James Bible, written in King James English
just like
Post by duke
Post by teresita
Jesus talked.
Yeah, right. The kjv was written from earlier languages, and Jesus
never spoke
Post by duke
old Elizabethan English.
Your rite Jesus didn't speak Elizabethan but are pastor say's the
KJV is the original word's of Jesus & that was before America got
free from England & that's why it's harder to understand then
american & so modern version's are easier to understand but there not
as accurate & that's why we always use KJV.
Unless you happen to be a scholar in Aramaic and Ancient Hebrew, and
had studied the original script for most of your life, how could you
defend that opinion?
It's not a opinion that we alway's use KJV.
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The original sin isn't mortal.
Not mortal? So eating the fruit did not kill Adam and Eve?
That's not
Post by duke
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Post by Bob
Post by teresita
what God said.
No, that's what you read in the imperfect English translation
of
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the
Post by duke
Post by teresita
Post by Bob
perfect Hebrew autograph.
I use only the King James Bible, written in King James English
just like
Post by duke
Post by teresita
Jesus talked.
Yeah, right. The kjv was written from earlier languages, and
Jesus
Post by default
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never spoke
Post by duke
old Elizabethan English.
Your rite Jesus didn't speak Elizabethan but are pastor say's the
KJV is the original word's of Jesus & that was before America got
free from England & that's why it's harder to understand then
american & so modern version's are easier to understand but there
not
Post by default
Post by teresita
as accurate & that's why we always use KJV.
Unless you happen to be a scholar in Aramaic and Ancient Hebrew, and
had studied the original script for most of your life, how could you
defend that opinion?
It's not a opinion that we alway's use KJV.
Oh, then you are saying that your cult considers the KJ bible the word
of god. Of course a king (ruling by divine right) has no political
bias and he, being there by god's own mandate, would naturally get it
right.

Yet the scholars that do spend their lives studying the earliest texts
of the bible disagree on the meanings.. and SHAZAM! in ~ 1600 a
monarch with no particular skills comes along.... and sets things
right.

Yeah, well, religious belief requires the believers to accept what
they are told without critical thought.

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2018-03-02 22:38:11 UTC
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The original sin isn't mortal.
Not mortal? So eating the fruit did not kill Adam and Eve?
That's not
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what God said.
No, that's what you read in the imperfect English translation of
the
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perfect Hebrew autograph.
I use only the King James Bible, written in King James English
just like
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Jesus talked.
Yeah, right. The kjv was written from earlier languages, and Jesus
never spoke
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old Elizabethan English.
Your rite Jesus didn't speak Elizabethan but are pastor say's the
KJV is the original word's of Jesus & that was before America got
free from England & that's why it's harder to understand then
american & so modern version's are easier to understand but there not
as accurate & that's why we always use KJV.
People don't speak old Elizabethan English any more than they speak Aramaic.
Modern day bibles are **translated** (meaning from one language to another
language), and thus the new is a proper rendition of the old.

In effect, the modern already reflects the "original" Greek.

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The original sin isn't mortal.
Not mortal? So eating the fruit did not kill Adam and Eve?
That's not
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Post by teresita
what God said.
No, that's what you read in the imperfect English translation of
the
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perfect Hebrew autograph.
I use only the King James Bible, written in King James English
just like
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Jesus talked.
Yeah, right. The kjv was written from earlier languages, and Jesus
never spoke
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old Elizabethan English.
Your rite Jesus didn't speak Elizabethan but are pastor say's the
KJV is the original word's of Jesus & that was before America got
free from England & that's why it's harder to understand then
american & so modern version's are easier to understand but there not
as accurate & that's why we always use KJV.
People don't speak old Elizabethan English any more than they speak Aramaic.
Modern day bibles are **translated** (meaning from one language to another
language), and thus the new is a proper rendition of the old.
In effect, the modern already reflects the "original" Greek.
Thx Earl but it's different if your Protestant then if your Catholic.
duke
2018-03-02 14:00:53 UTC
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The original sin isn't mortal.
Not mortal? So eating the fruit did not kill Adam and Eve? That's not
what God said.
No, that's what you read in the imperfect English translation of the perfect
Hebrew autograph.
To understand what the Hebrew language meant in Genesis 2:17, one should
The language translations already cover what the Hebrew language was saying.
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https://answersingenesis.org/death-before-sin/did-death-of-any-kind-exist-before-the-fall/
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The original sin isn't mortal.
Not mortal? So eating the fruit did not kill Adam and Eve? That's not
what God said.
Of course. The original sin did kill Adam and Eve spiritually and
instantly. It's why we don't know the existence of God anymore. Because
of the original sin, the spirit of God has died in our mind. We have
become the living dead. With the mortal sin, the spirit of God will die
in our heart. We will become the walking zombies.
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Genesis 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou
shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt
surely die.
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The original sin isn't mortal.
Not mortal? So eating the fruit did not kill Adam and Eve?
That's not
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what God said.
Of course. The original sin did kill Adam and Eve spiritually and
instantly. It's why we don't know the existence of God anymore. Because
of the original sin, the spirit of God has died in our mind. We have
become the living dead. With the mortal sin, the spirit of God will die
in our heart. We will become the walking zombies.
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Genesis 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou
shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt
surely die.
Most ppl that say there Christian believe Satan.
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2018-02-27 01:54:57 UTC
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The original sin isn't mortal.
Not mortal? So eating the fruit did not kill Adam and Eve? That's not
what God said.
Of course. The original sin did kill Adam and Eve spiritually and
instantly.
So why did you say original sin is NOT mortal?
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2018-02-27 01:58:45 UTC
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The original sin isn't mortal.
Not mortal? So eating the fruit did not kill Adam and Eve? That's not
what God said.
Of course. The original sin did kill Adam and Eve spiritually and
instantly.
So why did you say original sin is NOT mortal?
As a never-been-Catholic, I don't even know what that means.
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The original sin isn't mortal.
Not mortal? So eating the fruit did not kill Adam and Eve? That's
not what God said.
Of course. The original sin did kill Adam and Eve spiritually and
instantly.
So why did you say original sin is NOT mortal?
As a never-been-Catholic, I don't even know what that means.
Catholicism has two kinds of sin, venial and mortal. Venial sins don't
require confession. Mortal sins kill sanctifying grace and can lead to
hell. A venial sin is coming to Mass just before the basket is passed
around. A mortal sin is coming to Mass just AFTER the basket is passed
around.
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The original sin isn't mortal.
Not mortal? So eating the fruit did not kill Adam and Eve? That's
not what God said.
Of course. The original sin did kill Adam and Eve spiritually and
instantly.
So why did you say original sin is NOT mortal?
As a never-been-Catholic, I don't even know what that means.
Catholicism has two kinds of sin, venial and mortal. Venial sins don't
require confession. Mortal sins kill sanctifying grace and can lead to
hell. A venial sin is coming to Mass just before the basket is passed
around. A mortal sin is coming to Mass just AFTER the basket is passed
around.
To me, a mortal sin is a sin that will lead to the unforgivable sin. The
unforgivable sin is the sin that kills the spirit of God in our heart.
So there must be repentance for a mortal sin in order to avoid the
unforgivable sin.
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2018-03-01 11:31:20 UTC
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To me, a mortal sin is a sin that will lead to the unforgivable sin. The
unforgivable sin is the sin that kills the spirit of God in our heart.
Jesus taught a different unforgivable sin. He said it was blaspheming
the holy ghost. Based on the context of his teaching, this happens when
people attribute the work of the holy ghost to Satan.
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2018-03-01 13:37:39 UTC
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To me, a mortal sin is a sin that will lead to the unforgivable sin. The
unforgivable sin is the sin that kills the spirit of God in our heart.
Jesus taught a different unforgivable sin. He said it was blaspheming
the holy ghost. Based on the context of his teaching, this happens when
people attribute the work of the holy ghost to Satan.
I agree.

To me, the spirit of Christ lives in our heart as our personal Lord and
Savor. Therefore, one cannot blaspheme the Holy Ghost without disobeying
the spirit of Christ in one's own heart first.
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The original sin isn't mortal.
Not mortal? So eating the fruit did not kill Adam and Eve? That's
not what God said.
Of course. The original sin did kill Adam and Eve spiritually and
instantly.
So why did you say original sin is NOT mortal?
As a never-been-Catholic, I don't even know what that means.
Catholicism has two kinds of sin, venial and mortal. Venial sins don't
require confession. Mortal sins kill sanctifying grace and can lead to
hell.
Thanks Teresita.
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A venial sin is coming to Mass just before the basket is passed
around. A mortal sin is coming to Mass just AFTER the basket is passed
around.
LOL.
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2018-02-27 06:35:48 UTC
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The original sin isn't mortal.
Not mortal? So eating the fruit did not kill Adam and Eve? That's not
what God said.
Of course. The original sin did kill Adam and Eve spiritually and
instantly.
So why did you say original sin is NOT mortal?
Because the original sin is still an unintentional mistake due to our
ignorance. We didn't intentionally forsake God. The mortal sin is an
intentional decision to abandon God in favor of sin.
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2018-03-01 23:42:48 UTC
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Mary is the mother of us all.
I thought that was Eve, aka Hava, aka Chava.
Eve is the first sinner.
To sin you have to know it's wrong. Eve didn't know it was wrong until
she ate the fruit.
Wrong. If one knows it's wrong, one would never sin. We only sin when we
don't know better.
That's not what the Catechism of the Catholic Church says, you stupid
Dork.
"Mortal sin is sin whose object is grave matter and which is also
committed with full knowledge and deliberate consent."
Eve did not have full knowledge that what she was doing was wrong, since
the knowledge of good and evil was conferred by eating the fruit.
Nor did they "die" that day. For Adam lived to be 930, which according to God 1
day is 1000 years to men, which means that they died right about the end of
God's day.

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duke
2018-02-25 23:49:50 UTC
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Mary is the mother of us all.
I thought that was Eve, aka Hava, aka Chava.
Eve is the first sinner.
To sin you have to know it's wrong. Eve didn't know it was wrong until
she ate the fruit.
Sure she did. She was specifically advised by God NOT TO eat from one specific
tree. Gen 3:1-2. Yum, yum good in Gen 3:6 if you accept timeline.

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2018-03-01 23:39:35 UTC
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Mary is the mother of us all.
I thought that was Eve, aka Hava, aka Chava.
Eve is the first sinner.
To sin you have to know it's wrong. Eve didn't know it was wrong until
she ate the fruit.
God told her "do NOT........" first.

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Mary is the mother of us all.
I thought that was Eve, aka Hava, aka Chava.
Eve is the first sinner.
To sin you have to know it's wrong. Eve didn't know it was wrong until
she ate the fruit.
God told her "do NOT........" first.
Adam should of got a divorce when he found out.
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2018-03-02 22:31:20 UTC
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Mary is the mother of us all.
I thought that was Eve, aka Hava, aka Chava.
Eve is the first sinner.
To sin you have to know it's wrong. Eve didn't know it was wrong
until
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she ate the fruit.
God told her "do NOT........" first.
Adam should of got a divorce when he found out.
Did they get married?

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Mary is the mother of us all.
I thought that was Eve, aka Hava, aka Chava.
Eve is the first sinner.
To sin you have to know it's wrong. Eve didn't know it was wrong
until
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she ate the fruit.
God told her "do NOT........" first.
Adam should of got a divorce when he found out.
Did they get married?
They must of been married if they had sex.
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Mary is the mother of us all.
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