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Second Suggestion of Thermodynamics
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Peter Pan
2017-06-16 20:55:46 UTC
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The Second Law of Thermodynamics has been replaced with
the Second Suggestion of Thermodynamics.

It goes something like this:

***********begin SSoT************************
Nothing can happen without causing disorder and
deterioration of the universe, except refrigerators or
other manmade intelligently designed appliances, and
living things, but even those can only go against this
Suggestion but not violate it. Anything that looks
disorderly & untidy is called entropy.

This Suggestion applies to the whole universe, and since
everything is part of the whole universe, it applies to
them too, whether they are open or closed systems. Unless
they are manmade or living, or unless God wanted it that
way.

Errors cannot be made in copying DNA, unless they are
beneficial changes, which will then reduce the entropy of
the organism. The organism has intelligence built into
it to know when to beneficially change its DNA. If the
organism's intelligence isn't sure, it will pray for
guidance. Even bacteria can pray. Organisms with less
entropy are special. All this is called intelligent
design. Evolution is not allowed, except God can cause
evolution, but then it's not called evolution.

Things with less entropy will float. This is because
anti-entropy has anti-gravity properties. That is why
hot air balloons go up instead of falling. Things with
more entropy will sink. Entropy is heavy. Sunlight and
other energy cause entropy. Entropy particles are
exported from the sun to the earth in cargo containers.

Only manmade or living things can preserve energy, even
though some dead things can store energy. Storing and
preserving energy are different, but you don't need to
know the difference. It's just different.

This Suggestion is proven by the Spiritual Evidence of
love, peace, truth, bunnies & strawberry ice cream.

All things are Suggested to comply immediately, or Jesus
will pay you a visit. That will be all.
*************end SSoT************************

Is that about right?
Smiler
2017-06-16 23:05:46 UTC
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The Second Law of Thermodynamics has been replaced with the Second
Suggestion of Thermodynamics.
***********begin SSoT************************
Nothing can happen without causing disorder and deterioration of the
universe, except refrigerators or other manmade intelligently designed
appliances, and living things, but even those can only go against this
Suggestion but not violate it. Anything that looks disorderly & untidy
is called entropy.
This Suggestion applies to the whole universe, and since everything is
part of the whole universe, it applies to them too, whether they are
open or closed systems. Unless they are manmade or living, or unless God
wanted it that way.
Errors cannot be made in copying DNA, unless they are beneficial
changes, which will then reduce the entropy of the organism. The
organism has intelligence built into it to know when to beneficially
change its DNA. If the organism's intelligence isn't sure, it will pray
for guidance. Even bacteria can pray. Organisms with less entropy are
special. All this is called intelligent design. Evolution is not
allowed, except God can cause evolution, but then it's not called
evolution.
Things with less entropy will float. This is because anti-entropy has
anti-gravity properties. That is why hot air balloons go up instead of
falling. Things with more entropy will sink. Entropy is heavy.
Sunlight and other energy cause entropy. Entropy particles are exported
from the sun to the earth in cargo containers.
Only manmade or living things can preserve energy, even though some dead
things can store energy. Storing and preserving energy are different,
but you don't need to know the difference. It's just different.
This Suggestion is proven by the Spiritual Evidence of love, peace,
truth, bunnies & strawberry ice cream.
All things are Suggested to comply immediately, or Jesus will pay you a
visit. That will be all. *************end SSoT************************
Is that about right?
Spot on, except for one tiny thing,
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
it's _chocolate_ ice cream, HERETIC!
--
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.
Peter Pan
2017-06-17 08:17:18 UTC
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Post by Smiler
The Second Law of Thermodynamics has been replaced with the Second
Suggestion of Thermodynamics.
***********begin SSoT************************
Nothing can happen without causing disorder and deterioration of the
universe, except refrigerators or other manmade intelligently designed
appliances, and living things, but even those can only go against this
Suggestion but not violate it. Anything that looks disorderly & untidy
is called entropy.
This Suggestion applies to the whole universe, and since everything is
part of the whole universe, it applies to them too, whether they are
open or closed systems. Unless they are manmade or living, or unless God
wanted it that way.
Errors cannot be made in copying DNA, unless they are beneficial
changes, which will then reduce the entropy of the organism. The
organism has intelligence built into it to know when to beneficially
change its DNA. If the organism's intelligence isn't sure, it will pray
for guidance. Even bacteria can pray. Organisms with less entropy are
special. All this is called intelligent design. Evolution is not
allowed, except God can cause evolution, but then it's not called
evolution.
Things with less entropy will float. This is because anti-entropy has
anti-gravity properties. That is why hot air balloons go up instead of
falling. Things with more entropy will sink. Entropy is heavy.
Sunlight and other energy cause entropy. Entropy particles are exported
from the sun to the earth in cargo containers.
Only manmade or living things can preserve energy, even though some dead
things can store energy. Storing and preserving energy are different,
but you don't need to know the difference. It's just different.
This Suggestion is proven by the Spiritual Evidence of love, peace,
truth, bunnies & strawberry ice cream.
All things are Suggested to comply immediately, or Jesus will pay you a
visit. That will be all. *************end SSoT************************
Is that about right?
Spot on, except for one tiny thing,
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
it's _chocolate_ ice cream, HERETIC!
Seriously?
Everyone knows strawberry ice cream has less entropy.
Smiler
2017-06-17 20:37:17 UTC
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Post by Peter Pan
Post by Smiler
The Second Law of Thermodynamics has been replaced with the Second
Suggestion of Thermodynamics.
***********begin SSoT************************
Nothing can happen without causing disorder and deterioration of the
universe, except refrigerators or other manmade intelligently
designed appliances, and living things, but even those can only go
against this Suggestion but not violate it. Anything that looks
disorderly & untidy is called entropy.
This Suggestion applies to the whole universe, and since everything
is part of the whole universe, it applies to them too, whether they
are open or closed systems. Unless they are manmade or living, or
unless God wanted it that way.
Errors cannot be made in copying DNA, unless they are beneficial
changes, which will then reduce the entropy of the organism. The
organism has intelligence built into it to know when to beneficially
change its DNA. If the organism's intelligence isn't sure, it will
pray for guidance. Even bacteria can pray. Organisms with less
entropy are special. All this is called intelligent design.
Evolution is not allowed, except God can cause evolution, but then
it's not called evolution.
Things with less entropy will float. This is because anti-entropy
has anti-gravity properties. That is why hot air balloons go up
instead of falling. Things with more entropy will sink. Entropy is
heavy. Sunlight and other energy cause entropy. Entropy particles
are exported from the sun to the earth in cargo containers.
Only manmade or living things can preserve energy, even though some
dead things can store energy. Storing and preserving energy are
different, but you don't need to know the difference. It's just
different.
This Suggestion is proven by the Spiritual Evidence of love, peace,
truth, bunnies & strawberry ice cream.
All things are Suggested to comply immediately, or Jesus will pay you
a visit. That will be all. *************end
SSoT************************
Is that about right?
Spot on, except for one tiny thing,
it's _chocolate_ ice cream, HERETIC!
Seriously?
Everyone knows strawberry ice cream has less entropy.
Chocolate ice cream is more spiritual.
I know this from my own personal experience, and you cannot disprove that.
--
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.
Blue Ringed 8
2017-06-17 22:40:45 UTC
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Post by Smiler
The Second Law of Thermodynamics has been replaced with the Second
Suggestion of Thermodynamics.
***********begin SSoT************************
Nothing can happen without causing disorder and deterioration of the
universe, except refrigerators or other manmade intelligently designed
appliances, and living things, but even those can only go against this
Suggestion but not violate it. Anything that looks disorderly & untidy
is called entropy.
This Suggestion applies to the whole universe, and since everything is
part of the whole universe, it applies to them too, whether they are
open or closed systems. Unless they are manmade or living, or unless God
wanted it that way.
Errors cannot be made in copying DNA, unless they are beneficial
changes, which will then reduce the entropy of the organism. The
organism has intelligence built into it to know when to beneficially
change its DNA. If the organism's intelligence isn't sure, it will pray
for guidance. Even bacteria can pray. Organisms with less entropy are
special. All this is called intelligent design. Evolution is not
allowed, except God can cause evolution, but then it's not called
evolution.
Things with less entropy will float. This is because anti-entropy has
anti-gravity properties. That is why hot air balloons go up instead of
falling. Things with more entropy will sink. Entropy is heavy.
Sunlight and other energy cause entropy. Entropy particles are exported
from the sun to the earth in cargo containers.
Only manmade or living things can preserve energy, even though some dead
things can store energy. Storing and preserving energy are different,
but you don't need to know the difference. It's just different.
This Suggestion is proven by the Spiritual Evidence of love, peace,
truth, bunnies & strawberry ice cream.
All things are Suggested to comply immediately, or Jesus will pay you a
visit. That will be all. *************end SSoT************************
Is that about right?
An excellent summation. And easily as coherent as the source.

I pretty much threw in the towel when he informed me that a
peacock with a bigger flashier tail is a peacock in a lower state
of entropy, and that's why the peahens dig him.

Well, that and when he firmly told me that my mother wasn't
actually horribly, piteously frustrated by being unable to find her words
due to her Wernike's aphasia, it just looked that way to us
on the outside.

BR-8
Post by Smiler
Spot on, except for one tiny thing,
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
it's _chocolate_ ice cream, HERETIC!
--
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.
Peter Pan
2017-06-18 08:43:10 UTC
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Post by Blue Ringed 8
Post by Smiler
The Second Law of Thermodynamics has been replaced with the Second
Suggestion of Thermodynamics.
***********begin SSoT************************
Nothing can happen without causing disorder and deterioration of the
universe, except refrigerators or other manmade intelligently designed
appliances, and living things, but even those can only go against this
Suggestion but not violate it. Anything that looks disorderly & untidy
is called entropy.
This Suggestion applies to the whole universe, and since everything is
part of the whole universe, it applies to them too, whether they are
open or closed systems. Unless they are manmade or living, or unless God
wanted it that way.
Errors cannot be made in copying DNA, unless they are beneficial
changes, which will then reduce the entropy of the organism. The
organism has intelligence built into it to know when to beneficially
change its DNA. If the organism's intelligence isn't sure, it will pray
for guidance. Even bacteria can pray. Organisms with less entropy are
special. All this is called intelligent design. Evolution is not
allowed, except God can cause evolution, but then it's not called
evolution.
Things with less entropy will float. This is because anti-entropy has
anti-gravity properties. That is why hot air balloons go up instead of
falling. Things with more entropy will sink. Entropy is heavy.
Sunlight and other energy cause entropy. Entropy particles are exported
from the sun to the earth in cargo containers.
Only manmade or living things can preserve energy, even though some dead
things can store energy. Storing and preserving energy are different,
but you don't need to know the difference. It's just different.
This Suggestion is proven by the Spiritual Evidence of love, peace,
truth, bunnies & strawberry ice cream.
All things are Suggested to comply immediately, or Jesus will pay you a
visit. That will be all. *************end SSoT************************
Is that about right?
An excellent summation. And easily as coherent as the source.
I pretty much threw in the towel when he informed me that a
peacock with a bigger flashier tail is a peacock in a lower state
of entropy, and that's why the peahens dig him.
Well, that and when he firmly told me that my mother wasn't
actually horribly, piteously frustrated by being unable to find her words
due to her Wernike's aphasia, it just looked that way to us
on the outside.
BR-8
I'm afraid our mascot has gone on hiatus for a long time.
The cult leader finally wised up and pulled her from the
atheist outreach ministry. Maybe we will see her
reincarnate with a new nym taking a more thoughtful tack.
Post by Blue Ringed 8
Post by Smiler
Spot on, except for one tiny thing,
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
it's _chocolate_ ice cream, HERETIC!
aaa
2017-06-19 01:52:31 UTC
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Post by Peter Pan
Post by Blue Ringed 8
Post by Smiler
The Second Law of Thermodynamics has been replaced with the Second
Suggestion of Thermodynamics.
***********begin SSoT************************
Nothing can happen without causing disorder and deterioration of the
universe, except refrigerators or other manmade intelligently designed
appliances, and living things, but even those can only go against this
Suggestion but not violate it. Anything that looks disorderly & untidy
is called entropy.
This Suggestion applies to the whole universe, and since everything is
part of the whole universe, it applies to them too, whether they are
open or closed systems. Unless they are manmade or living, or unless God
wanted it that way.
Errors cannot be made in copying DNA, unless they are beneficial
changes, which will then reduce the entropy of the organism. The
organism has intelligence built into it to know when to beneficially
change its DNA. If the organism's intelligence isn't sure, it will pray
for guidance. Even bacteria can pray. Organisms with less entropy are
special. All this is called intelligent design. Evolution is not
allowed, except God can cause evolution, but then it's not called
evolution.
Things with less entropy will float. This is because anti-entropy has
anti-gravity properties. That is why hot air balloons go up instead of
falling. Things with more entropy will sink. Entropy is heavy.
Sunlight and other energy cause entropy. Entropy particles are exported
from the sun to the earth in cargo containers.
Only manmade or living things can preserve energy, even though some dead
things can store energy. Storing and preserving energy are different,
but you don't need to know the difference. It's just different.
This Suggestion is proven by the Spiritual Evidence of love, peace,
truth, bunnies & strawberry ice cream.
All things are Suggested to comply immediately, or Jesus will pay you a
visit. That will be all. *************end SSoT************************
Is that about right?
An excellent summation. And easily as coherent as the source.
I pretty much threw in the towel when he informed me that a
peacock with a bigger flashier tail is a peacock in a lower state
of entropy, and that's why the peahens dig him.
Well, that and when he firmly told me that my mother wasn't
actually horribly, piteously frustrated by being unable to find her words
due to her Wernike's aphasia, it just looked that way to us
on the outside.
BR-8
I'm afraid our mascot has gone on hiatus for a long time.
The cult leader finally wised up and pulled her from the
atheist outreach ministry. Maybe we will see her
reincarnate with a new nym taking a more thoughtful tack.
Your willful misinterpretation only shows your own confusion. However, I
suspect that a large part of it is artificial just to confuse the issue
instead of the other way around. You should have understood the second
law as well as I, but you chose to be stupid. The same for BR-8 for his
mother's mental inability.
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Blue Ringed 8
Post by Smiler
Spot on, except for one tiny thing,
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
it's _chocolate_ ice cream, HERETIC!
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, peace, freedom, and life itself.
Peter Pan
2017-06-19 05:08:29 UTC
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Post by aaa
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Blue Ringed 8
The Second Law of Thermodynamics has been replaced with the Second
Suggestion of Thermodynamics.
***********begin SSoT************************
Nothing can happen without causing disorder and deterioration of the
universe, except refrigerators or other manmade intelligently designed
appliances, and living things, but even those can only go against this
Suggestion but not violate it. Anything that looks disorderly & untidy
is called entropy.
This Suggestion applies to the whole universe, and since everything is
part of the whole universe, it applies to them too, whether they are
open or closed systems. Unless they are manmade or living, or unless God
wanted it that way.
Errors cannot be made in copying DNA, unless they are beneficial
changes, which will then reduce the entropy of the organism. The
organism has intelligence built into it to know when to beneficially
change its DNA. If the organism's intelligence isn't sure, it will pray
for guidance. Even bacteria can pray. Organisms with less entropy are
special. All this is called intelligent design. Evolution is not
allowed, except God can cause evolution, but then it's not called
evolution.
Things with less entropy will float. This is because anti-entropy has
anti-gravity properties. That is why hot air balloons go up instead of
falling. Things with more entropy will sink. Entropy is heavy.
Sunlight and other energy cause entropy. Entropy particles are exported
from the sun to the earth in cargo containers.
Only manmade or living things can preserve energy, even though some dead
things can store energy. Storing and preserving energy are different,
but you don't need to know the difference. It's just different.
This Suggestion is proven by the Spiritual Evidence of love, peace,
truth, bunnies & strawberry ice cream.
All things are Suggested to comply immediately, or Jesus will pay you a
visit. That will be all. *************end SSoT************************
Is that about right?
An excellent summation. And easily as coherent as the source.
I pretty much threw in the towel when he informed me that a
peacock with a bigger flashier tail is a peacock in a lower state
of entropy, and that's why the peahens dig him.
Well, that and when he firmly told me that my mother wasn't
actually horribly, piteously frustrated by being unable to find her words
due to her Wernike's aphasia, it just looked that way to us
on the outside.
BR-8
I'm afraid our mascot has gone on hiatus for a long time.
The cult leader finally wised up and pulled her from the
atheist outreach ministry. Maybe we will see her
reincarnate with a new nym taking a more thoughtful tack.
Your willful misinterpretation only shows your own confusion. However, I
suspect that a large part of it is artificial just to confuse the issue
instead of the other way around. You should have understood the second
law as well as I, but you chose to be stupid. The same for BR-8 for his
mother's mental inability.
Nonsense. I only summarized what you have already said
about your version, the 2nd Suggestion.

Of course i have some understanding of the 2nd law. Your
level understanding, otoh, is negative, since you "know"
more wrong stuff about it than right stuff.

Does your cult leader know you snuck back onto the
computer?
aaa
2017-06-19 05:43:04 UTC
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Post by Peter Pan
Post by aaa
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Blue Ringed 8
The Second Law of Thermodynamics has been replaced with the Second
Suggestion of Thermodynamics.
***********begin SSoT************************
Nothing can happen without causing disorder and deterioration of the
universe, except refrigerators or other manmade intelligently designed
appliances, and living things, but even those can only go against this
Suggestion but not violate it. Anything that looks disorderly & untidy
is called entropy.
This Suggestion applies to the whole universe, and since everything is
part of the whole universe, it applies to them too, whether they are
open or closed systems. Unless they are manmade or living, or unless God
wanted it that way.
Errors cannot be made in copying DNA, unless they are beneficial
changes, which will then reduce the entropy of the organism. The
organism has intelligence built into it to know when to beneficially
change its DNA. If the organism's intelligence isn't sure, it will pray
for guidance. Even bacteria can pray. Organisms with less entropy are
special. All this is called intelligent design. Evolution is not
allowed, except God can cause evolution, but then it's not called
evolution.
Things with less entropy will float. This is because anti-entropy has
anti-gravity properties. That is why hot air balloons go up instead of
falling. Things with more entropy will sink. Entropy is heavy.
Sunlight and other energy cause entropy. Entropy particles are exported
from the sun to the earth in cargo containers.
Only manmade or living things can preserve energy, even though some dead
things can store energy. Storing and preserving energy are different,
but you don't need to know the difference. It's just different.
This Suggestion is proven by the Spiritual Evidence of love, peace,
truth, bunnies & strawberry ice cream.
All things are Suggested to comply immediately, or Jesus will pay you a
visit. That will be all. *************end SSoT************************
Is that about right?
An excellent summation. And easily as coherent as the source.
I pretty much threw in the towel when he informed me that a
peacock with a bigger flashier tail is a peacock in a lower state
of entropy, and that's why the peahens dig him.
Well, that and when he firmly told me that my mother wasn't
actually horribly, piteously frustrated by being unable to find her words
due to her Wernike's aphasia, it just looked that way to us
on the outside.
BR-8
I'm afraid our mascot has gone on hiatus for a long time.
The cult leader finally wised up and pulled her from the
atheist outreach ministry. Maybe we will see her
reincarnate with a new nym taking a more thoughtful tack.
Your willful misinterpretation only shows your own confusion. However, I
suspect that a large part of it is artificial just to confuse the issue
instead of the other way around. You should have understood the second
law as well as I, but you chose to be stupid. The same for BR-8 for his
mother's mental inability.
Nonsense. I only summarized what you have already said
about your version, the 2nd Suggestion.
Of course i have some understanding of the 2nd law. Your
level understanding, otoh, is negative, since you "know"
more wrong stuff about it than right stuff.
Does your cult leader know you snuck back onto the
computer?
You never once discussed the application of the second law on life. In
fact, you are quite good at avoiding it. Why?
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, peace, freedom, and life itself.
Peter Pan
2017-06-19 06:24:26 UTC
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Post by Peter Pan
Post by aaa
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Blue Ringed 8
The Second Law of Thermodynamics has been replaced with the Second
Suggestion of Thermodynamics.
***********begin SSoT************************
Nothing can happen without causing disorder and deterioration of the
universe, except refrigerators or other manmade intelligently designed
appliances, and living things, but even those can only go against this
Suggestion but not violate it. Anything that looks disorderly & untidy
is called entropy.
This Suggestion applies to the whole universe, and since everything is
part of the whole universe, it applies to them too, whether they are
open or closed systems. Unless they are manmade or living, or unless God
wanted it that way.
Errors cannot be made in copying DNA, unless they are beneficial
changes, which will then reduce the entropy of the organism. The
organism has intelligence built into it to know when to beneficially
change its DNA. If the organism's intelligence isn't sure, it will pray
for guidance. Even bacteria can pray. Organisms with less entropy are
special. All this is called intelligent design. Evolution is not
allowed, except God can cause evolution, but then it's not called
evolution.
Things with less entropy will float. This is because anti-entropy has
anti-gravity properties. That is why hot air balloons go up instead of
falling. Things with more entropy will sink. Entropy is heavy.
Sunlight and other energy cause entropy. Entropy particles are exported
from the sun to the earth in cargo containers.
Only manmade or living things can preserve energy, even though some dead
things can store energy. Storing and preserving energy are different,
but you don't need to know the difference. It's just different.
This Suggestion is proven by the Spiritual Evidence of love, peace,
truth, bunnies & strawberry ice cream.
All things are Suggested to comply immediately, or Jesus will pay you a
visit. That will be all. *************end SSoT************************
Is that about right?
An excellent summation. And easily as coherent as the source.
I pretty much threw in the towel when he informed me that a
peacock with a bigger flashier tail is a peacock in a lower state
of entropy, and that's why the peahens dig him.
Well, that and when he firmly told me that my mother wasn't
actually horribly, piteously frustrated by being unable to find her words
due to her Wernike's aphasia, it just looked that way to us
on the outside.
BR-8
I'm afraid our mascot has gone on hiatus for a long time.
The cult leader finally wised up and pulled her from the
atheist outreach ministry. Maybe we will see her
reincarnate with a new nym taking a more thoughtful tack.
Your willful misinterpretation only shows your own confusion. However, I
suspect that a large part of it is artificial just to confuse the issue
instead of the other way around. You should have understood the second
law as well as I, but you chose to be stupid. The same for BR-8 for his
mother's mental inability.
Nonsense. I only summarized what you have already said
about your version, the 2nd Suggestion.
Of course i have some understanding of the 2nd law. Your
level understanding, otoh, is negative, since you "know"
more wrong stuff about it than right stuff.
Does your cult leader know you snuck back onto the
computer?
You never once discussed the application of the second law on life. In
fact, you are quite good at avoiding it. Why?
You are trying to change the subject. With what in my
summation of the 2nd Suggestion do you disagree?

I will say that i don't know much biochemistry, tho i
have corrected you on the 2nd law in relation to it.

If you want to know more biology or biochemistry,
especially in relation to thermodynamics, you should have
listened to BR-8. You don't, so you didn't.
aaa
2017-06-19 13:44:00 UTC
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Post by aaa
Post by Peter Pan
Post by aaa
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Blue Ringed 8
The Second Law of Thermodynamics has been replaced with the Second
Suggestion of Thermodynamics.
***********begin SSoT************************
Nothing can happen without causing disorder and deterioration of the
universe, except refrigerators or other manmade intelligently designed
appliances, and living things, but even those can only go against this
Suggestion but not violate it. Anything that looks disorderly & untidy
is called entropy.
This Suggestion applies to the whole universe, and since everything is
part of the whole universe, it applies to them too, whether they are
open or closed systems. Unless they are manmade or living, or unless God
wanted it that way.
Errors cannot be made in copying DNA, unless they are beneficial
changes, which will then reduce the entropy of the organism. The
organism has intelligence built into it to know when to beneficially
change its DNA. If the organism's intelligence isn't sure, it will pray
for guidance. Even bacteria can pray. Organisms with less entropy are
special. All this is called intelligent design. Evolution is not
allowed, except God can cause evolution, but then it's not called
evolution.
Things with less entropy will float. This is because anti-entropy has
anti-gravity properties. That is why hot air balloons go up instead of
falling. Things with more entropy will sink. Entropy is heavy.
Sunlight and other energy cause entropy. Entropy particles are exported
from the sun to the earth in cargo containers.
Only manmade or living things can preserve energy, even though some dead
things can store energy. Storing and preserving energy are different,
but you don't need to know the difference. It's just different.
This Suggestion is proven by the Spiritual Evidence of love, peace,
truth, bunnies & strawberry ice cream.
All things are Suggested to comply immediately, or Jesus will pay you a
visit. That will be all. *************end SSoT************************
Is that about right?
An excellent summation. And easily as coherent as the source.
I pretty much threw in the towel when he informed me that a
peacock with a bigger flashier tail is a peacock in a lower state
of entropy, and that's why the peahens dig him.
Well, that and when he firmly told me that my mother wasn't
actually horribly, piteously frustrated by being unable to find her words
due to her Wernike's aphasia, it just looked that way to us
on the outside.
BR-8
I'm afraid our mascot has gone on hiatus for a long time.
The cult leader finally wised up and pulled her from the
atheist outreach ministry. Maybe we will see her
reincarnate with a new nym taking a more thoughtful tack.
Your willful misinterpretation only shows your own confusion. However, I
suspect that a large part of it is artificial just to confuse the issue
instead of the other way around. You should have understood the second
law as well as I, but you chose to be stupid. The same for BR-8 for his
mother's mental inability.
Nonsense. I only summarized what you have already said
about your version, the 2nd Suggestion.
Of course i have some understanding of the 2nd law. Your
level understanding, otoh, is negative, since you "know"
more wrong stuff about it than right stuff.
Does your cult leader know you snuck back onto the
computer?
You never once discussed the application of the second law on life. In
fact, you are quite good at avoiding it. Why?
You are trying to change the subject. With what in my
summation of the 2nd Suggestion do you disagree?
I will say that i don't know much biochemistry, tho i
have corrected you on the 2nd law in relation to it.
If you want to know more biology or biochemistry,
especially in relation to thermodynamics, you should have
listened to BR-8. You don't, so you didn't.
The subject is about applying the second law on life. There is no other
subject. Those other subjects are all your distractions to avoid the
real issue.
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2017-06-19 15:50:51 UTC
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The Second Law of Thermodynamics has been replaced with the Second
Suggestion of Thermodynamics.
***********begin SSoT************************
Nothing can happen without causing disorder and deterioration of the
universe, except refrigerators or other manmade intelligently designed
appliances, and living things, but even those can only go against this
Suggestion but not violate it. Anything that looks disorderly & untidy
is called entropy.
This Suggestion applies to the whole universe, and since everything is
part of the whole universe, it applies to them too, whether they are
open or closed systems. Unless they are manmade or living, or unless God
wanted it that way.
Errors cannot be made in copying DNA, unless they are beneficial
changes, which will then reduce the entropy of the organism. The
organism has intelligence built into it to know when to beneficially
change its DNA. If the organism's intelligence isn't sure, it will pray
for guidance. Even bacteria can pray. Organisms with less entropy are
special. All this is called intelligent design. Evolution is not
allowed, except God can cause evolution, but then it's not called
evolution.
Things with less entropy will float. This is because anti-entropy has
anti-gravity properties. That is why hot air balloons go up instead of
falling. Things with more entropy will sink. Entropy is heavy.
Sunlight and other energy cause entropy. Entropy particles are exported
from the sun to the earth in cargo containers.
Only manmade or living things can preserve energy, even though some dead
things can store energy. Storing and preserving energy are different,
but you don't need to know the difference. It's just different.
This Suggestion is proven by the Spiritual Evidence of love, peace,
truth, bunnies & strawberry ice cream.
All things are Suggested to comply immediately, or Jesus will pay you a
visit. That will be all. *************end SSoT************************
Is that about right?
An excellent summation. And easily as coherent as the source.
I pretty much threw in the towel when he informed me that a
peacock with a bigger flashier tail is a peacock in a lower state
of entropy, and that's why the peahens dig him.
Well, that and when he firmly told me that my mother wasn't
actually horribly, piteously frustrated by being unable to find her words
due to her Wernike's aphasia, it just looked that way to us
on the outside.
BR-8
I'm afraid our mascot has gone on hiatus for a long time.
The cult leader finally wised up and pulled her from the
atheist outreach ministry. Maybe we will see her
reincarnate with a new nym taking a more thoughtful tack.
Your willful misinterpretation only shows your own confusion. However, I
suspect that a large part of it is artificial just to confuse the issue
instead of the other way around. You should have understood the second
law as well as I, but you chose to be stupid. The same for BR-8 for his
mother's mental inability.
Nonsense. I only summarized what you have already said
about your version, the 2nd Suggestion.
Of course i have some understanding of the 2nd law. Your
level understanding, otoh, is negative, since you "know"
more wrong stuff about it than right stuff.
Does your cult leader know you snuck back onto the
computer?
You never once discussed the application of the second law on life. In
fact, you are quite good at avoiding it. Why?
You are trying to change the subject. With what in my
summation of the 2nd Suggestion do you disagree?
I will say that i don't know much biochemistry, tho i
have corrected you on the 2nd law in relation to it.
If you want to know more biology or biochemistry,
especially in relation to thermodynamics, you should have
listened to BR-8. You don't, so you didn't.
The subject is about applying the second law on life. There is no other
subject. Those other subjects are all your distractions to avoid the
real issue.
The subject is your kooky theories. Did I summarize your
2nd Suggestion well? If not, please point out where you
disagree.

So far you have not been able to discuss any science with
anyone. What does that leave us with?
aaa
2017-06-20 06:21:39 UTC
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Post by Blue Ringed 8
The Second Law of Thermodynamics has been replaced with the Second
Suggestion of Thermodynamics.
***********begin SSoT************************
Nothing can happen without causing disorder and deterioration of the
universe, except refrigerators or other manmade intelligently designed
appliances, and living things, but even those can only go against this
Suggestion but not violate it. Anything that looks disorderly & untidy
is called entropy.
This Suggestion applies to the whole universe, and since everything is
part of the whole universe, it applies to them too, whether they are
open or closed systems. Unless they are manmade or living, or unless God
wanted it that way.
Errors cannot be made in copying DNA, unless they are beneficial
changes, which will then reduce the entropy of the organism. The
organism has intelligence built into it to know when to beneficially
change its DNA. If the organism's intelligence isn't sure, it will pray
for guidance. Even bacteria can pray. Organisms with less entropy are
special. All this is called intelligent design. Evolution is not
allowed, except God can cause evolution, but then it's not called
evolution.
Things with less entropy will float. This is because anti-entropy has
anti-gravity properties. That is why hot air balloons go up instead of
falling. Things with more entropy will sink. Entropy is heavy.
Sunlight and other energy cause entropy. Entropy particles are exported
from the sun to the earth in cargo containers.
Only manmade or living things can preserve energy, even though some dead
things can store energy. Storing and preserving energy are different,
but you don't need to know the difference. It's just different.
This Suggestion is proven by the Spiritual Evidence of love, peace,
truth, bunnies & strawberry ice cream.
All things are Suggested to comply immediately, or Jesus will pay you a
visit. That will be all. *************end SSoT************************
Is that about right?
An excellent summation. And easily as coherent as the source.
I pretty much threw in the towel when he informed me that a
peacock with a bigger flashier tail is a peacock in a lower state
of entropy, and that's why the peahens dig him.
Well, that and when he firmly told me that my mother wasn't
actually horribly, piteously frustrated by being unable to find her words
due to her Wernike's aphasia, it just looked that way to us
on the outside.
BR-8
I'm afraid our mascot has gone on hiatus for a long time.
The cult leader finally wised up and pulled her from the
atheist outreach ministry. Maybe we will see her
reincarnate with a new nym taking a more thoughtful tack.
Your willful misinterpretation only shows your own confusion. However, I
suspect that a large part of it is artificial just to confuse the issue
instead of the other way around. You should have understood the second
law as well as I, but you chose to be stupid. The same for BR-8 for his
mother's mental inability.
Nonsense. I only summarized what you have already said
about your version, the 2nd Suggestion.
Of course i have some understanding of the 2nd law. Your
level understanding, otoh, is negative, since you "know"
more wrong stuff about it than right stuff.
Does your cult leader know you snuck back onto the
computer?
You never once discussed the application of the second law on life. In
fact, you are quite good at avoiding it. Why?
You are trying to change the subject. With what in my
summation of the 2nd Suggestion do you disagree?
I will say that i don't know much biochemistry, tho i
have corrected you on the 2nd law in relation to it.
If you want to know more biology or biochemistry,
especially in relation to thermodynamics, you should have
listened to BR-8. You don't, so you didn't.
The subject is about applying the second law on life. There is no other
subject. Those other subjects are all your distractions to avoid the
real issue.
The subject is your kooky theories. Did I summarize your
2nd Suggestion well? If not, please point out where you
disagree.
So far you have not been able to discuss any science with
anyone. What does that leave us with?
I have no theories. I only have my simple logic that proves evolution
wrong. We have not been able to discuss science because you ignore my
simple scientific point about the second law. You don't discuss. You
work to distract and confuse the issue.
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happiness, faith, courage, peace, freedom, and life itself.
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2017-06-20 16:44:46 UTC
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If you want to know more biology or biochemistry,
especially in relation to thermodynamics, you should have
listened to BR-8. You don't, so you didn't.
The subject is about applying the second law on life. There is no other
subject. Those other subjects are all your distractions to avoid the
real issue.
The subject is your kooky theories. Did I summarize your
2nd Suggestion well? If not, please point out where you
disagree.
So far you have not been able to discuss any science with
anyone. What does that leave us with?
I have no theories.
I suppose "kooky hypotheses" would have been better
words.
Post by aaa
I only have my simple logic that proves evolution
wrong.
So far, no one has been able to find any error in the
evolutionary model.
Post by aaa
We have not been able to discuss science because you ignore my
simple scientific point about the second law.
You have never actually discussed the 2nd law. You have
only discussed your misunderstanding of it.

I tried to teach you a few things about science. You
only want to blindly deny and argue from your
misunderstanding. You don't need to understand
everything about science, you only need to realize that
it's true.
Post by aaa
You don't discuss. You
work to distract and confuse the issue.
You are confused in spite of my teaching, not because of
it.
aaa
2017-06-21 05:34:19 UTC
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If you want to know more biology or biochemistry,
especially in relation to thermodynamics, you should have
listened to BR-8. You don't, so you didn't.
The subject is about applying the second law on life. There is no other
subject. Those other subjects are all your distractions to avoid the
real issue.
The subject is your kooky theories. Did I summarize your
2nd Suggestion well? If not, please point out where you
disagree.
So far you have not been able to discuss any science with
anyone. What does that leave us with?
I have no theories.
I suppose "kooky hypotheses" would have been better
words.
Post by aaa
I only have my simple logic that proves evolution
wrong.
So far, no one has been able to find any error in the
evolutionary model.
Post by aaa
We have not been able to discuss science because you ignore my
simple scientific point about the second law.
You have never actually discussed the 2nd law. You have
only discussed your misunderstanding of it.
That's blind denial.
Post by Peter Pan
I tried to teach you a few things about science. You
only want to blindly deny and argue from your
misunderstanding. You don't need to understand
everything about science, you only need to realize that
it's true.
No. You only work as a distraction. You never dared to challenge my
understanding of the second law.
Post by Peter Pan
Post by aaa
You don't discuss. You
work to distract and confuse the issue.
You are confused in spite of my teaching, not because of
it.
You only wish it were true.
--
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Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, peace, freedom, and life itself.
Peter Pan
2017-06-21 06:03:24 UTC
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If you want to know more biology or biochemistry,
especially in relation to thermodynamics, you should have
listened to BR-8. You don't, so you didn't.
The subject is about applying the second law on life. There is no other
subject. Those other subjects are all your distractions to avoid the
real issue.
The subject is your kooky theories. Did I summarize your
2nd Suggestion well? If not, please point out where you
disagree.
So far you have not been able to discuss any science with
anyone. What does that leave us with?
I have no theories.
I suppose "kooky hypotheses" would have been better
words.
Post by aaa
I only have my simple logic that proves evolution
wrong.
So far, no one has been able to find any error in the
evolutionary model.
Post by aaa
We have not been able to discuss science because you ignore my
simple scientific point about the second law.
You have never actually discussed the 2nd law. You have
only discussed your misunderstanding of it.
That's blind denial.
You are in blind denial of your blind denial.
Post by aaa
Post by Peter Pan
I tried to teach you a few things about science. You
only want to blindly deny and argue from your
misunderstanding. You don't need to understand
everything about science, you only need to realize that
it's true.
No. You only work as a distraction. You never dared to challenge my
understanding of the second law.
LOL!

I think you realize that your misunderstanding of the 2nd
law is indefensible. That's why you never dared to say
what your version of the 2nd law says.
Post by aaa
Post by Peter Pan
Post by aaa
You don't discuss. You
work to distract and confuse the issue.
You are confused in spite of my teaching, not because of
it.
You only wish it were true.
Are you claiming that you aren't confused?
A great body of evidence shows otherwise.
aaa
2017-06-23 02:42:58 UTC
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If you want to know more biology or biochemistry,
especially in relation to thermodynamics, you should have
listened to BR-8. You don't, so you didn't.
The subject is about applying the second law on life. There is no other
subject. Those other subjects are all your distractions to avoid the
real issue.
The subject is your kooky theories. Did I summarize your
2nd Suggestion well? If not, please point out where you
disagree.
So far you have not been able to discuss any science with
anyone. What does that leave us with?
I have no theories.
I suppose "kooky hypotheses" would have been better
words.
Post by aaa
I only have my simple logic that proves evolution
wrong.
So far, no one has been able to find any error in the
evolutionary model.
Post by aaa
We have not been able to discuss science because you ignore my
simple scientific point about the second law.
You have never actually discussed the 2nd law. You have
only discussed your misunderstanding of it.
That's blind denial.
You are in blind denial of your blind denial.
Post by aaa
Post by Peter Pan
I tried to teach you a few things about science. You
only want to blindly deny and argue from your
misunderstanding. You don't need to understand
everything about science, you only need to realize that
it's true.
No. You only work as a distraction. You never dared to challenge my
understanding of the second law.
LOL!
I think you realize that your misunderstanding of the 2nd
law is indefensible. That's why you never dared to say
what your version of the 2nd law says.
Post by aaa
Post by Peter Pan
Post by aaa
You don't discuss. You
work to distract and confuse the issue.
You are confused in spite of my teaching, not because of
it.
You only wish it were true.
Are you claiming that you aren't confused?
A great body of evidence shows otherwise.
That's just your empty claim.
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Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
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Cloud Hobbit
2017-06-23 09:19:18 UTC
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If you want to know more biology or biochemistry,
especially in relation to thermodynamics, you should have
listened to BR-8. You don't, so you didn't.
The subject is about applying the second law on life. There is no other
subject. Those other subjects are all your distractions to avoid the
real issue.
The subject is your kooky theories. Did I summarize your
2nd Suggestion well? If not, please point out where you
disagree.
So far you have not been able to discuss any science with
anyone. What does that leave us with?
I have no theories.
I suppose "kooky hypotheses" would have been better
words.
Post by aaa
I only have my simple logic that proves evolution
wrong.
So far, no one has been able to find any error in the
evolutionary model.
Post by aaa
We have not been able to discuss science because you ignore my
simple scientific point about the second law.
You have never actually discussed the 2nd law. You have
only discussed your misunderstanding of it.
That's blind denial.
You are in blind denial of your blind denial.
Post by aaa
Post by Peter Pan
I tried to teach you a few things about science. You
only want to blindly deny and argue from your
misunderstanding. You don't need to understand
everything about science, you only need to realize that
it's true.
No. You only work as a distraction. You never dared to challenge my
understanding of the second law.
LOL!
I think you realize that your misunderstanding of the 2nd
law is indefensible. That's why you never dared to say
what your version of the 2nd law says.
Post by aaa
Post by Peter Pan
Post by aaa
You don't discuss. You
work to distract and confuse the issue.
You are confused in spite of my teaching, not because of
it.
You only wish it were true.
Are you claiming that you aren't confused?
A great body of evidence shows otherwise.
That's just your empty claim.
Not really. Your behavior here is that of an idiot.
I don't think people really believe you are as big an idiot as you pretend to be and they are seeing you as I have for a long time a troll, somewhat entertaining, but a troll nonetheless.
Peter Pan
2017-06-23 17:04:29 UTC
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If you want to know more biology or biochemistry,
especially in relation to thermodynamics, you should have
listened to BR-8. You don't, so you didn't.
The subject is about applying the second law on life. There is no other
subject. Those other subjects are all your distractions to avoid the
real issue.
The subject is your kooky theories. Did I summarize your
2nd Suggestion well? If not, please point out where you
disagree.
So far you have not been able to discuss any science with
anyone. What does that leave us with?
I have no theories.
I suppose "kooky hypotheses" would have been better
words.
Post by aaa
I only have my simple logic that proves evolution
wrong.
So far, no one has been able to find any error in the
evolutionary model.
Post by aaa
We have not been able to discuss science because you ignore my
simple scientific point about the second law.
You have never actually discussed the 2nd law. You have
only discussed your misunderstanding of it.
That's blind denial.
You are in blind denial of your blind denial.
Post by aaa
Post by Peter Pan
I tried to teach you a few things about science. You
only want to blindly deny and argue from your
misunderstanding. You don't need to understand
everything about science, you only need to realize that
it's true.
No. You only work as a distraction. You never dared to challenge my
understanding of the second law.
LOL!
I think you realize that your misunderstanding of the 2nd
law is indefensible. That's why you never dared to say
what your version of the 2nd law says.
Post by aaa
Post by Peter Pan
Post by aaa
You don't discuss. You
work to distract and confuse the issue.
You are confused in spite of my teaching, not because of
it.
You only wish it were true.
Are you claiming that you aren't confused?
A great body of evidence shows otherwise.
That's just your empty claim.
Not really. Your behavior here is that of an idiot.
I don't think people really believe you are as big an idiot as you pretend to be and they are seeing you as I have for a long time a troll, somewhat entertaining, but a troll nonetheless.
You were right all along about the troll thing. I never
figured it out until a couple days ago. Of course,
nobody could have been that stupid and still figured out
how to turn on a pc and post. It was the mother of all
usenet trolls.
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2017-06-24 04:28:15 UTC
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If you want to know more biology or biochemistry,
especially in relation to thermodynamics, you should
have listened to BR-8. You don't, so you didn't.
The subject is about applying the second law on life.
There is no other subject. Those other subjects are all
your distractions to avoid the real issue.
The subject is your kooky theories. Did I summarize
your 2nd Suggestion well? If not, please point out where
you disagree.
So far you have not been able to discuss any science
with anyone. What does that leave us with?
I have no theories.
I suppose "kooky hypotheses" would have been better words.
Post by aaa
I only have my simple logic that proves evolution wrong.
So far, no one has been able to find any error in the
evolutionary model.
Post by aaa
We have not been able to discuss science because you ignore
my simple scientific point about the second law.
You have never actually discussed the 2nd law. You have only
discussed your misunderstanding of it.
That's blind denial.
You are in blind denial of your blind denial.
Post by aaa
I tried to teach you a few things about science. You only
want to blindly deny and argue from your misunderstanding.
You don't need to understand everything about science, you
only need to realize that it's true.
No. You only work as a distraction. You never dared to
challenge my understanding of the second law.
LOL!
I think you realize that your misunderstanding of the 2nd law is
indefensible. That's why you never dared to say what your
version of the 2nd law says.
Post by aaa
Post by aaa
You don't discuss. You work to distract and confuse the
issue.
You are confused in spite of my teaching, not because of it.
You only wish it were true.
Are you claiming that you aren't confused? A great body of
evidence shows otherwise.
That's just your empty claim.
Not really. Your behavior here is that of an idiot. I don't think
people really believe you are as big an idiot as you pretend to be
and they are seeing you as I have for a long time a troll, somewhat
entertaining, but a troll nonetheless.
Do you think it would make you look any better by calling me a troll?
You never discuss anything interesting. So who is trolling in here?
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2017-06-24 07:59:03 UTC
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Are you claiming that you aren't confused? A great body of
evidence shows otherwise.
That's just your empty claim.
Not really. Your behavior here is that of an idiot. I don't think
people really believe you are as big an idiot as you pretend to be
and they are seeing you as I have for a long time a troll, somewhat
entertaining, but a troll nonetheless.
Do you think it would make you look any better by calling me a troll?
You never discuss anything interesting. So who is trolling in here?
I suggest you try saying something rational and see what happens.
Smiler
2017-06-25 03:18:26 UTC
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Are you claiming that you aren't confused? A great body of evidence
shows otherwise.
That's just your empty claim.
Not really. Your behavior here is that of an idiot. I don't think
people really believe you are as big an idiot as you pretend to be and
they are seeing you as I have for a long time a troll, somewhat
entertaining, but a troll nonetheless.
Do you think it would make you look any better by calling me a troll?
You never discuss anything interesting. So who is trolling in here?
I suggest you try saying something rational and see what happens.
That appears to be beyond his capabilities.
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2017-06-25 04:56:34 UTC
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Are you claiming that you aren't confused? A great body of
evidence shows otherwise.
That's just your empty claim.
Not really. Your behavior here is that of an idiot. I don't think
people really believe you are as big an idiot as you pretend to be
and they are seeing you as I have for a long time a troll, somewhat
entertaining, but a troll nonetheless.
Do you think it would make you look any better by calling me a troll?
You never discuss anything interesting. So who is trolling in here?
I suggest you try saying something rational and see what happens.
What I said is quite rational. Too bad you can't understand it.
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Lucifer Morningstar
2017-06-25 07:50:50 UTC
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Are you claiming that you aren't confused? A great body of
evidence shows otherwise.
That's just your empty claim.
Not really. Your behavior here is that of an idiot. I don't think
people really believe you are as big an idiot as you pretend to be
and they are seeing you as I have for a long time a troll, somewhat
entertaining, but a troll nonetheless.
Do you think it would make you look any better by calling me a troll?
You never discuss anything interesting. So who is trolling in here?
I suggest you try saying something rational and see what happens.
What I said is quite rational. Too bad you can't understand it.
If you can't think of anything rational ask a non-mythologist to help.
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2017-06-25 00:21:51 UTC
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If you want to know more biology or biochemistry,
especially in relation to thermodynamics, you should
have listened to BR-8. You don't, so you didn't.
The subject is about applying the second law on life.
There is no other subject. Those other subjects are all
your distractions to avoid the real issue.
The subject is your kooky theories. Did I summarize
your 2nd Suggestion well? If not, please point out where
you disagree.
So far you have not been able to discuss any science
with anyone. What does that leave us with?
I have no theories.
I suppose "kooky hypotheses" would have been better words.
Post by aaa
I only have my simple logic that proves evolution wrong.
So far, no one has been able to find any error in the
evolutionary model.
Post by aaa
We have not been able to discuss science because you ignore
my simple scientific point about the second law.
You have never actually discussed the 2nd law. You have only
discussed your misunderstanding of it.
That's blind denial.
You are in blind denial of your blind denial.
Post by aaa
I tried to teach you a few things about science. You only
want to blindly deny and argue from your misunderstanding.
You don't need to understand everything about science, you
only need to realize that it's true.
No. You only work as a distraction. You never dared to
challenge my understanding of the second law.
LOL!
I think you realize that your misunderstanding of the 2nd law is
indefensible. That's why you never dared to say what your
version of the 2nd law says.
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You don't discuss. You work to distract and confuse the
issue.
You are confused in spite of my teaching, not because of it.
You only wish it were true.
Are you claiming that you aren't confused? A great body of
evidence shows otherwise.
That's just your empty claim.
Not really. Your behavior here is that of an idiot. I don't think
people really believe you are as big an idiot as you pretend to be
and they are seeing you as I have for a long time a troll, somewhat
entertaining, but a troll nonetheless.
Do you think it would make you look any better by calling me a troll?
You never discuss anything interesting.
An opinion you get to have.
You don't think the idea of a universe that needs no creation because it is eternal is at least a little interesting?

So who is trolling in here?
You, Retardo. You ask questions like that just to make yourself look more brain damaged?
You are the only one who positively benefit from being called a troll. If you aren't a troll, then you are simply a moron. Which do you prefer?
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If you want to know more biology or
biochemistry, especially in relation to
thermodynamics, you should have listened to BR-8.
You don't, so you didn't.
The subject is about applying the second law on
life. There is no other subject. Those other
subjects are all your distractions to avoid the
real issue.
The subject is your kooky theories. Did I summarize
your 2nd Suggestion well? If not, please point out
where you disagree.
So far you have not been able to discuss any science
with anyone. What does that leave us with?
I have no theories.
I suppose "kooky hypotheses" would have been better
words.
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I only have my simple logic that proves evolution
wrong.
So far, no one has been able to find any error in the
evolutionary model.
Post by aaa
We have not been able to discuss science because you
ignore my simple scientific point about the second
law.
You have never actually discussed the 2nd law. You have
only discussed your misunderstanding of it.
That's blind denial.
You are in blind denial of your blind denial.
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Post by Peter Pan
I tried to teach you a few things about science. You
only want to blindly deny and argue from your
misunderstanding. You don't need to understand everything
about science, you only need to realize that it's true.
No. You only work as a distraction. You never dared to
challenge my understanding of the second law.
LOL!
I think you realize that your misunderstanding of the 2nd law
is indefensible. That's why you never dared to say what
your version of the 2nd law says.
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You don't discuss. You work to distract and confuse
the issue.
You are confused in spite of my teaching, not because of
it.
You only wish it were true.
Are you claiming that you aren't confused? A great body of
evidence shows otherwise.
That's just your empty claim.
Not really. Your behavior here is that of an idiot. I don't
think people really believe you are as big an idiot as you
pretend to be and they are seeing you as I have for a long time a
troll, somewhat entertaining, but a troll nonetheless.
Do you think it would make you look any better by calling me a
troll? You never discuss anything interesting.
An opinion you get to have. You don't think the idea of a universe
that needs no creation because it is eternal is at least a little
interesting?
No, I don't think it's interesting because it can't even be justified
according to the second law of thermodynamics.
So who is trolling in here?
You, Retardo. You ask questions like that just to make yourself look more brain damaged?
You are the only one who positively benefit from being called a
troll. If you aren't a troll, then you are simply a moron. Which do
you prefer?
I would rather you could be less blind to what I said.
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If you want to know more biology or
biochemistry, especially in relation to
thermodynamics, you should have listened to BR-8.
You don't, so you didn't.
The subject is about applying the second law on
life. There is no other subject. Those other
subjects are all your distractions to avoid the
real issue.
The subject is your kooky theories. Did I summarize
your 2nd Suggestion well? If not, please point out
where you disagree.
So far you have not been able to discuss any science
with anyone. What does that leave us with?
I have no theories.
I suppose "kooky hypotheses" would have been better
words.
Post by aaa
I only have my simple logic that proves evolution
wrong.
So far, no one has been able to find any error in the
evolutionary model.
Post by aaa
We have not been able to discuss science because you
ignore my simple scientific point about the second
law.
You have never actually discussed the 2nd law. You have
only discussed your misunderstanding of it.
That's blind denial.
You are in blind denial of your blind denial.
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Post by Peter Pan
I tried to teach you a few things about science. You
only want to blindly deny and argue from your
misunderstanding. You don't need to understand everything
about science, you only need to realize that it's true.
No. You only work as a distraction. You never dared to
challenge my understanding of the second law.
LOL!
I think you realize that your misunderstanding of the 2nd law
is indefensible. That's why you never dared to say what
your version of the 2nd law says.
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Post by aaa
You don't discuss. You work to distract and confuse
the issue.
You are confused in spite of my teaching, not because of it.
You only wish it were true.
Are you claiming that you aren't confused? A great body of
evidence shows otherwise.
That's just your empty claim.
Not really. Your behavior here is that of an idiot. I don't
think people really believe you are as big an idiot as you
pretend to be and they are seeing you as I have for a long time a
troll, somewhat entertaining, but a troll nonetheless.
Do you think it would make you look any better by calling me a
troll? You never discuss anything interesting.
An opinion you get to have. You don't think the idea of a universe
that needs no creation because it is eternal is at least a little
interesting?
No, I don't think it's interesting because it can't even be justified
according to the second law of thermodynamics.
Oh boy...

Do tell us: how does the idea of an eternal universe violate
the Second Law?

BR-8
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So who is trolling in here?
You, Retardo. You ask questions like that just to make yourself look
more brain damaged?
You are the only one who positively benefit from being called a
troll. If you aren't a troll, then you are simply a moron. Which do
you prefer?
I would rather you could be less blind to what I said.
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If you want to know more biology or
biochemistry, especially in relation to
thermodynamics, you should have listened to BR-8.
You don't, so you didn't.
The subject is about applying the second law on
life. There is no other subject. Those other
subjects are all your distractions to avoid the
real issue.
The subject is your kooky theories. Did I summarize
your 2nd Suggestion well? If not, please point out
where you disagree.
So far you have not been able to discuss any science
with anyone. What does that leave us with?
I have no theories.
I suppose "kooky hypotheses" would have been better
words.
Post by aaa
I only have my simple logic that proves evolution
wrong.
So far, no one has been able to find any error in the
evolutionary model.
Post by aaa
We have not been able to discuss science because you
ignore my simple scientific point about the second
law.
You have never actually discussed the 2nd law. You have
only discussed your misunderstanding of it.
That's blind denial.
You are in blind denial of your blind denial.
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Post by Peter Pan
I tried to teach you a few things about science. You
only want to blindly deny and argue from your
misunderstanding. You don't need to understand everything
about science, you only need to realize that it's true.
No. You only work as a distraction. You never dared to
challenge my understanding of the second law.
LOL!
I think you realize that your misunderstanding of the 2nd law
is indefensible. That's why you never dared to say what
your version of the 2nd law says.
Post by aaa
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Post by aaa
You don't discuss. You work to distract and confuse
the issue.
You are confused in spite of my teaching, not because of it.
You only wish it were true.
Are you claiming that you aren't confused? A great body of
evidence shows otherwise.
That's just your empty claim.
Not really. Your behavior here is that of an idiot. I don't
think people really believe you are as big an idiot as you
pretend to be and they are seeing you as I have for a long time a
troll, somewhat entertaining, but a troll nonetheless.
Do you think it would make you look any better by calling me a
troll? You never discuss anything interesting.
An opinion you get to have. You don't think the idea of a universe
that needs no creation because it is eternal is at least a little
interesting?
No, I don't think it's interesting because it can't even be justified
according to the second law of thermodynamics.
Oh boy...
Do tell us: how does the idea of an eternal universe violate
the Second Law?
Transfer of energy and mass.
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If you want to know more biology or
biochemistry, especially in relation to
thermodynamics, you should have listened to BR-8.
You don't, so you didn't.
The subject is about applying the second law on
life. There is no other subject. Those other
subjects are all your distractions to avoid the
real issue.
The subject is your kooky theories. Did I summarize
your 2nd Suggestion well? If not, please point out
where you disagree.
So far you have not been able to discuss any science
with anyone. What does that leave us with?
I have no theories.
I suppose "kooky hypotheses" would have been better
words.
Post by aaa
I only have my simple logic that proves evolution
wrong.
So far, no one has been able to find any error in the
evolutionary model.
Post by aaa
We have not been able to discuss science because you
ignore my simple scientific point about the second
law.
You have never actually discussed the 2nd law. You have
only discussed your misunderstanding of it.
That's blind denial.
You are in blind denial of your blind denial.
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Post by Peter Pan
I tried to teach you a few things about science. You
only want to blindly deny and argue from your
misunderstanding. You don't need to understand everything
about science, you only need to realize that it's true.
No. You only work as a distraction. You never dared to
challenge my understanding of the second law.
LOL!
I think you realize that your misunderstanding of the 2nd law
is indefensible. That's why you never dared to say what
your version of the 2nd law says.
Post by aaa
Post by Peter Pan
Post by aaa
You don't discuss. You work to distract and confuse
the issue.
You are confused in spite of my teaching, not because of it.
You only wish it were true.
Are you claiming that you aren't confused? A great body of
evidence shows otherwise.
That's just your empty claim.
Not really. Your behavior here is that of an idiot. I don't
think people really believe you are as big an idiot as you
pretend to be and they are seeing you as I have for a long time a
troll, somewhat entertaining, but a troll nonetheless.
Do you think it would make you look any better by calling me a
troll? You never discuss anything interesting.
An opinion you get to have. You don't think the idea of a universe
that needs no creation because it is eternal is at least a little
interesting?
No, I don't think it's interesting because it can't even be justified
according to the second law of thermodynamics.
Oh boy...
Do tell us: how does the idea of an eternal universe violate
the Second Law?
Transfer of energy and mass.
The 2nd law bans transport of energy and mass?
Even in proper containers with correct placarding?

Come on, duke. Even aaa is more creative than that.
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If you want to know more biology or
biochemistry, especially in relation to
thermodynamics, you should have listened to BR-8.
You don't, so you didn't.
The subject is about applying the second law on
life. There is no other subject. Those other
subjects are all your distractions to avoid the
real issue.
The subject is your kooky theories. Did I summarize
your 2nd Suggestion well? If not, please point out
where you disagree.
So far you have not been able to discuss any science
with anyone. What does that leave us with?
I have no theories.
I suppose "kooky hypotheses" would have been better words.
Post by aaa
I only have my simple logic that proves evolution
wrong.
So far, no one has been able to find any error in the
evolutionary model.
Post by aaa
We have not been able to discuss science because you
ignore my simple scientific point about the second
law.
You have never actually discussed the 2nd law. You have
only discussed your misunderstanding of it.
That's blind denial.
You are in blind denial of your blind denial.
Post by aaa
I tried to teach you a few things about science. You
only want to blindly deny and argue from your
misunderstanding. You don't need to understand everything
about science, you only need to realize that it's true.
No. You only work as a distraction. You never dared to
challenge my understanding of the second law.
LOL!
I think you realize that your misunderstanding of the 2nd law
is indefensible. That's why you never dared to say what
your version of the 2nd law says.
Post by aaa
Post by aaa
You don't discuss. You work to distract and confuse
the issue.
You are confused in spite of my teaching, not because of it.
You only wish it were true.
Are you claiming that you aren't confused? A great body of
evidence shows otherwise.
That's just your empty claim.
Not really. Your behavior here is that of an idiot. I don't
think people really believe you are as big an idiot as you
pretend to be and they are seeing you as I have for a long time a
troll, somewhat entertaining, but a troll nonetheless.
Do you think it would make you look any better by calling me a
troll? You never discuss anything interesting.
An opinion you get to have. You don't think the idea of a universe
that needs no creation because it is eternal is at least a little
interesting?
No, I don't think it's interesting because it can't even be justified
according to the second law of thermodynamics.
Oh boy...
Do tell us: how does the idea of an eternal universe violate
the Second Law?
Transfer of energy and mass.
The 2nd law bans transport of energy and mass?
Even in proper containers with correct placarding?
No container.
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Come on, duke. Even aaa is more creative than that.
The universe is an isolated system..

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If you want to know more biology or
biochemistry, especially in relation to
thermodynamics, you should have listened to BR-8.
You don't, so you didn't.
The subject is about applying the second law on
life. There is no other subject. Those other
subjects are all your distractions to avoid the
real issue.
The subject is your kooky theories. Did I summarize
your 2nd Suggestion well? If not, please point out
where you disagree.
So far you have not been able to discuss any science
with anyone. What does that leave us with?
I have no theories.
I suppose "kooky hypotheses" would have been better words.
Post by aaa
I only have my simple logic that proves evolution wrong.
So far, no one has been able to find any error in the
evolutionary model.
Post by aaa
We have not been able to discuss science because you
ignore my simple scientific point about the second
law.
You have never actually discussed the 2nd law. You have
only discussed your misunderstanding of it.
That's blind denial.
You are in blind denial of your blind denial.
Post by aaa
I tried to teach you a few things about science. You
only want to blindly deny and argue from your
misunderstanding. You don't need to understand everything
about science, you only need to realize that it's true.
No. You only work as a distraction. You never dared to
challenge my understanding of the second law.
LOL!
I think you realize that your misunderstanding of the 2nd law
is indefensible. That's why you never dared to say what
your version of the 2nd law says.
Post by aaa
Post by aaa
You don't discuss. You work to distract and confuse
the issue.
You are confused in spite of my teaching, not because of it.
You only wish it were true.
Are you claiming that you aren't confused? A great body of
evidence shows otherwise.
That's just your empty claim.
Not really. Your behavior here is that of an idiot. I don't
think people really believe you are as big an idiot as you
pretend to be and they are seeing you as I have for a long time a
troll, somewhat entertaining, but a troll nonetheless.
Do you think it would make you look any better by calling me a
troll? You never discuss anything interesting.
An opinion you get to have. You don't think the idea of a universe
that needs no creation because it is eternal is at least a little
interesting?
No, I don't think it's interesting because it can't even be justified
according to the second law of thermodynamics.
Oh boy...
Do tell us: how does the idea of an eternal universe violate
the Second Law?
Transfer of energy and mass.
The 2nd law bans transport of energy and mass?
Even in proper containers with correct placarding?
No container.
That's pretty silly. You will end up with energy, mass
and excess entropy littered all the way from here to the
Andromeda galaxy. That's why there are container laws
for that.
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Come on, duke. Even aaa is more creative than that.
The universe is an isolated system..
That's a moot point since the observable universe is only
a small fraction of the whole pie. You can't know
anything about mass & energy popping in & out of the
fringes of what we can see.
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If you want to know more biology or
biochemistry, especially in relation to
thermodynamics, you should have listened to BR-8.
You don't, so you didn't.
The subject is about applying the second law on
life. There is no other subject. Those other
subjects are all your distractions to avoid the
real issue.
The subject is your kooky theories. Did I summarize
your 2nd Suggestion well? If not, please point out
where you disagree.
So far you have not been able to discuss any science
with anyone. What does that leave us with?
I have no theories.
I suppose "kooky hypotheses" would have been better words.
Post by aaa
I only have my simple logic that proves evolution wrong.
So far, no one has been able to find any error in the
evolutionary model.
Post by aaa
We have not been able to discuss science because you
ignore my simple scientific point about the second
law.
You have never actually discussed the 2nd law. You have
only discussed your misunderstanding of it.
That's blind denial.
You are in blind denial of your blind denial.
Post by aaa
I tried to teach you a few things about science. You
only want to blindly deny and argue from your
misunderstanding. You don't need to understand everything
about science, you only need to realize that it's true.
No. You only work as a distraction. You never dared to
challenge my understanding of the second law.
LOL!
I think you realize that your misunderstanding of the 2nd law
is indefensible. That's why you never dared to say what
your version of the 2nd law says.
Post by aaa
Post by aaa
You don't discuss. You work to distract and confuse
the issue.
You are confused in spite of my teaching, not because of it.
You only wish it were true.
Are you claiming that you aren't confused? A great body of
evidence shows otherwise.
That's just your empty claim.
Not really. Your behavior here is that of an idiot. I don't
think people really believe you are as big an idiot as you
pretend to be and they are seeing you as I have for a long time a
troll, somewhat entertaining, but a troll nonetheless.
Do you think it would make you look any better by calling me a
troll? You never discuss anything interesting.
An opinion you get to have. You don't think the idea of a universe
that needs no creation because it is eternal is at least a little
interesting?
No, I don't think it's interesting because it can't even be justified
according to the second law of thermodynamics.
Oh boy...
Do tell us: how does the idea of an eternal universe violate
the Second Law?
Transfer of energy and mass.
The 2nd law bans transport of energy and mass?
Even in proper containers with correct placarding?
No container.
That's pretty silly. You will end up with energy, mass
and excess entropy littered all the way from here to the
Andromeda galaxy. That's why there are container laws
for that.
Maybe it came this way.
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Come on, duke. Even aaa is more creative than that.
The universe is an isolated system..
That's a moot point since the observable universe is only
a small fraction of the whole pie. You can't know
anything about mass & energy popping in & out of the
fringes of what we can see.
Science says the universe is isolated.


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If you want to know more biology or
biochemistry, especially in relation to
thermodynamics, you should have listened to BR-8.
You don't, so you didn't.
The subject is about applying the second law on
life. There is no other subject. Those other
subjects are all your distractions to avoid the
real issue.
The subject is your kooky theories. Did I summarize
your 2nd Suggestion well? If not, please point out
where you disagree.
So far you have not been able to discuss any science
with anyone. What does that leave us with?
I have no theories.
I suppose "kooky hypotheses" would have been better
words.
Post by aaa
I only have my simple logic that proves evolution
wrong.
So far, no one has been able to find any error in the
evolutionary model.
Post by aaa
We have not been able to discuss science because you
ignore my simple scientific point about the second
law.
You have never actually discussed the 2nd law. You have
only discussed your misunderstanding of it.
That's blind denial.
You are in blind denial of your blind denial.
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Post by Peter Pan
I tried to teach you a few things about science. You
only want to blindly deny and argue from your
misunderstanding. You don't need to understand everything
about science, you only need to realize that it's true.
No. You only work as a distraction. You never dared to
challenge my understanding of the second law.
LOL!
I think you realize that your misunderstanding of the 2nd law
is indefensible. That's why you never dared to say what
your version of the 2nd law says.
Post by aaa
Post by Peter Pan
Post by aaa
You don't discuss. You work to distract and confuse
the issue.
You are confused in spite of my teaching, not because of
it.
You only wish it were true.
Are you claiming that you aren't confused? A great body of
evidence shows otherwise.
That's just your empty claim.
Not really. Your behavior here is that of an idiot. I don't
think people really believe you are as big an idiot as you
pretend to be and they are seeing you as I have for a long time a
troll, somewhat entertaining, but a troll nonetheless.
Do you think it would make you look any better by calling me a
troll? You never discuss anything interesting.
An opinion you get to have. You don't think the idea of a universe
that needs no creation because it is eternal is at least a little
interesting?
No, I don't think it's interesting because it can't even be justified
according to the second law of thermodynamics.
Oh boy...
Do tell us: how does the idea of an eternal universe violate
the Second Law?
Transfer of energy and mass.
The 2nd law bans transport of energy and mass?
Even in proper containers with correct placarding?
No container.
That's pretty silly. You will end up with energy, mass
and excess entropy littered all the way from here to the
Andromeda galaxy. That's why there are container laws
for that.
Maybe it came this way.
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Come on, duke. Even aaa is more creative than that.
The universe is an isolated system..
That's a moot point since the observable universe is only
a small fraction of the whole pie. You can't know
anything about mass & energy popping in & out of the
fringes of what we can see.
Science says the universe is isolated.
Science says most of the universe is isolated from us.

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If you want to know more biology or
biochemistry, especially in relation to
thermodynamics, you should have listened to BR-8.
You don't, so you didn't.
The subject is about applying the second law on
life. There is no other subject. Those other
subjects are all your distractions to avoid the
real issue.
The subject is your kooky theories. Did I summarize
your 2nd Suggestion well? If not, please point out
where you disagree.
So far you have not been able to discuss any science
with anyone. What does that leave us with?
I have no theories.
I suppose "kooky hypotheses" would have been better
words.
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I only have my simple logic that proves evolution
wrong.
So far, no one has been able to find any error in the
evolutionary model.
Post by aaa
We have not been able to discuss science because you
ignore my simple scientific point about the second
law.
You have never actually discussed the 2nd law. You have
only discussed your misunderstanding of it.
That's blind denial.
You are in blind denial of your blind denial.
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I tried to teach you a few things about science. You
only want to blindly deny and argue from your
misunderstanding. You don't need to understand everything
about science, you only need to realize that it's true.
No. You only work as a distraction. You never dared to
challenge my understanding of the second law.
LOL!
I think you realize that your misunderstanding of the 2nd law
is indefensible. That's why you never dared to say what
your version of the 2nd law says.
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You don't discuss. You work to distract and confuse
the issue.
You are confused in spite of my teaching, not because of it.
You only wish it were true.
Are you claiming that you aren't confused? A great body of
evidence shows otherwise.
That's just your empty claim.
Not really. Your behavior here is that of an idiot. I don't
think people really believe you are as big an idiot as you
pretend to be and they are seeing you as I have for a long time a
troll, somewhat entertaining, but a troll nonetheless.
Do you think it would make you look any better by calling me a
troll? You never discuss anything interesting.
An opinion you get to have. You don't think the idea of a universe
that needs no creation because it is eternal is at least a little
interesting?
No, I don't think it's interesting because it can't even be justified
according to the second law of thermodynamics.
How would you know? You don't understand the second law of thermodynamics.
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So who is trolling in here?
You, Retardo. You ask questions like that just to make yourself look
more brain damaged?
You are the only one who positively benefit from being called a
troll. If you aren't a troll, then you are simply a moron. Which do
you prefer?
I would rather you could be less blind to what I said.
Nobody is blind to what you said, it is you who is blind to reality Retardo.
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If you want to know more biology or biochemistry,
especially in relation to thermodynamics, you should have
listened to BR-8. You don't, so you didn't.
The subject is about applying the second law on life. There is no other
subject. Those other subjects are all your distractions to avoid the
real issue.
The subject is your kooky theories. Did I summarize your
2nd Suggestion well? If not, please point out where you
disagree.
So far you have not been able to discuss any science with
anyone. What does that leave us with?
I have no theories.
I suppose "kooky hypotheses" would have been better
words.
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I only have my simple logic that proves evolution
wrong.
So far, no one has been able to find any error in the
evolutionary model.
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We have not been able to discuss science because you ignore my
simple scientific point about the second law.
You have never actually discussed the 2nd law. You have
only discussed your misunderstanding of it.
That's blind denial.
No, that's a demonstrable fact that you refuse to accept it out of your brain damaged stupidity or because you're an asshole.
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I tried to teach you a few things about science. You
only want to blindly deny and argue from your
misunderstanding. You don't need to understand
everything about science, you only need to realize that
it's true.
No. You only work as a distraction. You never dared to challenge my
understanding of the second law.
There is no reason to challenge what you have not used and have already proven that you don't care about anyway. You just made up your own version.
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You don't discuss. You
work to distract and confuse the issue.
The only one distracted and confused is you Retardo.
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You are confused in spite of my teaching, not because of
it.
You only wish it were true.
If only you had some REAL evidence, or understood science or weren't such an asshole.
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If you want to know more biology or biochemistry,
especially in relation to thermodynamics, you should have
listened to BR-8. You don't, so you didn't.
The subject is about applying the second law on life. There is no other
subject. Those other subjects are all your distractions to avoid the
real issue.
The subject is your kooky theories. Did I summarize your
2nd Suggestion well? If not, please point out where you
disagree.
So far you have not been able to discuss any science with
anyone. What does that leave us with?
I have no theories.
I suppose "kooky hypotheses" would have been better
words.
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I only have my simple logic that proves evolution
wrong.
So far, no one has been able to find any error in the
evolutionary model.
Post by aaa
We have not been able to discuss science because you ignore my
simple scientific point about the second law.
You have never actually discussed the 2nd law. You have
only discussed your misunderstanding of it.
That's blind denial.
No, that's a demonstrable fact that you refuse to accept it out of your brain damaged stupidity or because you're an asshole.
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I tried to teach you a few things about science. You
only want to blindly deny and argue from your
misunderstanding. You don't need to understand
everything about science, you only need to realize that
it's true.
No. You only work as a distraction. You never dared to challenge my
understanding of the second law.
There is no reason to challenge what you have not used and have already proven that you don't care about anyway. You just made up your own version.
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You don't discuss. You
work to distract and confuse the issue.
The only one distracted and confused is you Retardo.
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You are confused in spite of my teaching, not because of
it.
You only wish it were true.
If only you had some REAL evidence, or understood science or weren't such an asshole.
I do, but you ignore them.
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You are confused in spite of my teaching, not because of
it.
You only wish it were true.
If only you had some REAL evidence, or understood science or weren't such an asshole.
I do, but you ignore them.
I suggest you make a post with all your logic/evidence/proof and
repost it at least once a week. That way we won't be able to ignore
it.
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You are confused in spite of my teaching, not because of
it.
You only wish it were true.
If only you had some REAL evidence, or understood science or weren't such an asshole.
I do, but you ignore them.
I suggest you make a post with all your logic/evidence/proof and
repost it at least once a week. That way we won't be able to ignore
it.
I think my signature says it all.
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You are confused in spite of my teaching, not because of
it.
You only wish it were true.
If only you had some REAL evidence, or understood science or weren't such an asshole.
I do, but you ignore them.
I suggest you make a post with all your logic/evidence/proof and
repost it at least once a week. That way we won't be able to ignore
it.
I think my signature says it all.
Another aaa classic. Shows even a theist can be honest by mistake.

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Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, peace, freedom, and life itself.
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You are confused in spite of my teaching, not because of it.
You only wish it were true.
If only you had some REAL evidence, or understood science or weren't such an asshole.
I do, but you ignore them.
I suggest you make a post with all your logic/evidence/proof and repost
it at least once a week. That way we won't be able to ignore it.
I think
Nope. No evidence of that.
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my signature says it all.
No logic/evidence/proof in that. Merely your insane unevidenced beliefs.
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You are confused in spite of my teaching, not because of
it.
You only wish it were true.
If only you had some REAL evidence, or understood science or weren't such an asshole.
I do, but you ignore them.
I suggest you make a post with all your logic/evidence/proof and
repost it at least once a week. That way we won't be able to ignore
it.
I think my signature says it all.
It says you don't know what evidence is. it shows you to b e a morn which is apparently what you wish.
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I have no theories. I only have my simple logic
When your premise is as ridiculously faulty as yours, no amount of logic can come up with a valid answer.
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So far you have not been able to discuss any science with anyone.
What does that leave us with?
I have no theories. I only have my simple logic
When your premise is as ridiculously faulty as yours, no amount of
logic can come up with a valid answer.
My premise is the second law of thermodynamics. Why is it ridiculous to you?
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So far you have not been able to discuss any science with anyone.
What does that leave us with?
I have no theories. I only have my simple logic
When your premise is as ridiculously faulty as yours, no amount of
logic can come up with a valid answer.
My premise is the second law of thermodynamics. Why is it ridiculous to you?
No. Your premise is your own corrupt and insane personal version of the
second law of thermodynamics. _That's_ why is it ridiculous to us.
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So far you have not been able to discuss any science with anyone.
What does that leave us with?
I have no theories. I only have my simple logic
When your premise is as ridiculously faulty as yours, no amount of
logic can come up with a valid answer.
My premise is the second law of thermodynamics. Why is it ridiculous to you?
No. Your premise is your own corrupt and insane personal version of the
second law of thermodynamics. _That's_ why is it ridiculous to us.
No. My understanding of the second law has not been proven wrong.
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So far you have not been able to discuss any science with anyone.
What does that leave us with?
I have no theories. I only have my simple logic
When your premise is as ridiculously faulty as yours, no amount of
logic can come up with a valid answer.
My premise is the second law of thermodynamics. Why is it ridiculous to you?
No. Your premise is your own corrupt and insane personal version of the
second law of thermodynamics. _That's_ why is it ridiculous to us.
No. My understanding of the second law has not been proven wrong.
Your understandng of the second law is not the second law of thermodymanics.
No reason to refute it because it's not the second law and it has no bearing on anything that has been discussed here. Other than another bit of evidence for you being a retard.
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So far you have not been able to discuss any science with anyone.
What does that leave us with?
I have no theories. I only have my simple logic
When your premise is as ridiculously faulty as yours, no amount of
logic can come up with a valid answer.
My premise is the second law of thermodynamics. Why is it ridiculous to you?
No. Your premise is your own corrupt and insane personal version of the
second law of thermodynamics. _That's_ why is it ridiculous to us.
No. My understanding of the second law has not been proven wrong.
Your understandng of the second law is not the second law of thermodymanics.
No reason to refute it because it's not the second law and it has no bearing on anything that has been discussed here. Other than another bit of evidence for you being a retard.
Blind denial.
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So far you have not been able to discuss any science with anyone.
What does that leave us with?
I have no theories. I only have my simple logic
When your premise is as ridiculously faulty as yours, no amount of
logic can come up with a valid answer.
My premise is the second law of thermodynamics. Why is it ridiculous to you?
No. Your premise is your own corrupt and insane personal version of the
second law of thermodynamics. _That's_ why is it ridiculous to us.
No. My understanding of the second law has not been proven wrong.
Your understandng of the second law is not the second law of thermodymanics.
No reason to refute it because it's not the second law and it has no bearing on anything that has been discussed here. Other than another bit of evidence for you being a retard.
Blind denial.
I suggest you make a post with all your logic/evidence/proof and
repost it at least once a week. That way we won't be able to deny
it.
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So far you have not been able to discuss any science with anyone.
What does that leave us with?
I have no theories. I only have my simple logic
When your premise is as ridiculously faulty as yours, no amount of
logic can come up with a valid answer.
My premise is the second law of thermodynamics. Why is it ridiculous to you?
No. Your premise is your own corrupt and insane personal version of the
second law of thermodynamics. _That's_ why is it ridiculous to us.
No. My understanding of the second law has not been proven wrong.
As it hasn't been proven correct there is no need to prove it wrong.
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So far you have not been able to discuss any science with anyone.
What does that leave us with?
I have no theories. I only have my simple logic
When your premise is as ridiculously faulty as yours, no amount of
logic can come up with a valid answer.
My premise is the second law of thermodynamics. Why is it ridiculous to you?
No. Your premise is your own corrupt and insane personal version of the
second law of thermodynamics. _That's_ why is it ridiculous to us.
No. My understanding of the second law has not been proven wrong.
As it hasn't been proven correct there is no need to prove it wrong.
I don't have to prove the second law. It's your job to prove that my
understanding contradicts with the second law. You can't.
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So far you have not been able to discuss any science with anyone.
What does that leave us with?
I have no theories. I only have my simple logic
When your premise is as ridiculously faulty as yours, no amount of
logic can come up with a valid answer.
My premise is the second law of thermodynamics. Why is it ridiculous to you?
No. Your premise is your own corrupt and insane personal version of
the second law of thermodynamics. _That's_ why is it ridiculous to
us.
No. My understanding of the second law has not been proven wrong.
As it hasn't been proven correct there is no need to prove it wrong.
I don't have to prove the second law. It's your job to prove that my
understanding contradicts with the second law. You can't.
I have, as have others, but you just blindly deny it.
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So far you have not been able to discuss any science with anyone.
What does that leave us with?
I have no theories. I only have my simple logic
When your premise is as ridiculously faulty as yours, no amount of
logic can come up with a valid answer.
My premise is the second law of thermodynamics. Why is it ridiculous to you?
Because you don't use the second law of thermodynamics Retardo.
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So far you have not been able to discuss any science with anyone.
What does that leave us with?
I have no theories. I only have my simple logic
When your premise is as ridiculously faulty as yours, no amount of
logic can come up with a valid answer.
My premise is the second law of thermodynamics. Why is it ridiculous to you?
Because you don't use the second law of thermodynamics Retardo.
Blind denial.
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So far you have not been able to discuss any science with anyone.
What does that leave us with?
I have no theories. I only have my simple logic
When your premise is as ridiculously faulty as yours, no amount of
logic can come up with a valid answer.
My premise is the second law of thermodynamics. Why is it ridiculous to you?
Because you don't use the second law of thermodynamics Retardo.
Blind denial.
I suggest you make a post with all your logic/evidence/proof and
repost it at least once a week. That way we won't be able to
deny it.
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The Second Law of Thermodynamics has been replaced with the Second
Suggestion of Thermodynamics.
***********begin SSoT************************
Nothing can happen without causing disorder and deterioration of the
universe, except refrigerators or other manmade intelligently designed
appliances, and living things, but even those can only go against this
Suggestion but not violate it. Anything that looks disorderly & untidy
is called entropy.
This Suggestion applies to the whole universe, and since everything is
part of the whole universe, it applies to them too, whether they are
open or closed systems. Unless they are manmade or living, or unless God
wanted it that way.
Errors cannot be made in copying DNA, unless they are beneficial
changes, which will then reduce the entropy of the organism. The
organism has intelligence built into it to know when to beneficially
change its DNA. If the organism's intelligence isn't sure, it will pray
for guidance. Even bacteria can pray. Organisms with less entropy are
special. All this is called intelligent design. Evolution is not
allowed, except God can cause evolution, but then it's not called
evolution.
Things with less entropy will float. This is because anti-entropy has
anti-gravity properties. That is why hot air balloons go up instead of
falling. Things with more entropy will sink. Entropy is heavy.
Sunlight and other energy cause entropy. Entropy particles are exported
from the sun to the earth in cargo containers.
Only manmade or living things can preserve energy, even though some dead
things can store energy. Storing and preserving energy are different,
but you don't need to know the difference. It's just different.
This Suggestion is proven by the Spiritual Evidence of love, peace,
truth, bunnies & strawberry ice cream.
All things are Suggested to comply immediately, or Jesus will pay you a
visit. That will be all. *************end SSoT************************
Is that about right?
An excellent summation. And easily as coherent as the source.
I pretty much threw in the towel when he informed me that a
peacock with a bigger flashier tail is a peacock in a lower state
of entropy, and that's why the peahens dig him.
Well, that and when he firmly told me that my mother wasn't
actually horribly, piteously frustrated by being unable to find her words
due to her Wernike's aphasia, it just looked that way to us
on the outside.
BR-8
I'm afraid our mascot has gone on hiatus for a long time.
The cult leader finally wised up and pulled her from the
atheist outreach ministry. Maybe we will see her
reincarnate with a new nym taking a more thoughtful tack.
Your willful misinterpretation only shows your own confusion. However, I
suspect that a large part of it is artificial just to confuse the issue
instead of the other way around. You should have understood the second
law as well as I, but you chose to be stupid. The same for BR-8 for his
mother's mental inability.
Nonsense. I only summarized what you have already said
about your version, the 2nd Suggestion.
Of course i have some understanding of the 2nd law. Your
level understanding, otoh, is negative, since you "know"
more wrong stuff about it than right stuff.
Does your cult leader know you snuck back onto the
computer?
You never once discussed the application of the second law on life. In
fact, you are quite good at avoiding it. Why?
You are trying to change the subject. With what in my
summation of the 2nd Suggestion do you disagree?
I will say that i don't know much biochemistry, tho i
have corrected you on the 2nd law in relation to it.
If you want to know more biology or biochemistry,
especially in relation to thermodynamics, you should have
listened to BR-8. You don't, so you didn't.
The subject is about applying the second law on life. There is no other
subject. Those other subjects are all your distractions to avoid the
real issue.
The subject is your kooky theories. Did I summarize your
2nd Suggestion well? If not, please point out where you
disagree.
So far you have not been able to discuss any science with
anyone. What does that leave us with?
I have no theories. I only have my simple logic that proves evolution
wrong.
Actually, no.

What you do have is your having declared evolution is wrong.
That, and nothing more.

More specifically, you have pointed to structures and processes
wherein local decreases in entropy are driven by overall increases
in entropy of the world as a whole, structures and processes
in which a portion of the energy is stored -- and then declared,
by fiat and ex cathedra and with no supporting evidence,
that such cannot arise by natural means.

Which is simply your opinion, and nothing more than your opinion.
Opinions do not rise to the level of proof.

There are people who know infinitely more than you do
about such matters who are actively researching pathways
by which these could arise naturally. Nick Lane and Bill Martin
are two who come to mind immediately. Lane has put out
quite a longish book laying out in great detail the thermodynamics,
chemistry, and biology of his ideas. And is currently conducting
experiments testing those ideas. This is what we call "science".

Of course, given the astonishing arrogance of someone who
could declare, here, that "I have understood evolution without
reading a single sentence from any book or article about evolution",
then it's not surprising that you cannot distinguish between your
uninformed opinion and actual proof.

BR-8





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The Second Law of Thermodynamics has been
replaced with the Second Suggestion of
Thermodynamics.
***********begin SSoT************************
Nothing can happen without causing disorder and
deterioration of the universe, except
refrigerators or other manmade intelligently
designed appliances, and living things, but
even those can only go against this Suggestion
but not violate it. Anything that looks
disorderly & untidy is called entropy.
This Suggestion applies to the whole universe,
and since everything is part of the whole
universe, it applies to them too, whether they
are open or closed systems. Unless they are
manmade or living, or unless God wanted it that
way.
Errors cannot be made in copying DNA, unless
they are beneficial changes, which will then
reduce the entropy of the organism. The
organism has intelligence built into it to know
when to beneficially change its DNA. If the
organism's intelligence isn't sure, it will
pray for guidance. Even bacteria can pray.
Organisms with less entropy are special. All
this is called intelligent design. Evolution
is not allowed, except God can cause evolution,
but then it's not called evolution.
Things with less entropy will float. This is
because anti-entropy has anti-gravity
properties. That is why hot air balloons go up
instead of falling. Things with more entropy
will sink. Entropy is heavy. Sunlight and
other energy cause entropy. Entropy particles
are exported from the sun to the earth in cargo
containers.
Only manmade or living things can preserve
energy, even though some dead things can store
energy. Storing and preserving energy are
different, but you don't need to know the
difference. It's just different.
This Suggestion is proven by the Spiritual
Evidence of love, peace, truth, bunnies &
strawberry ice cream.
All things are Suggested to comply immediately,
or Jesus will pay you a visit. That will be
all. *************end
SSoT************************
Is that about right?
An excellent summation. And easily as coherent as
the source.
I pretty much threw in the towel when he informed
me that a peacock with a bigger flashier tail is a
peacock in a lower state of entropy, and that's why
the peahens dig him.
Well, that and when he firmly told me that my
mother wasn't actually horribly, piteously
frustrated by being unable to find her words due to
her Wernike's aphasia, it just looked that way to
us on the outside.
BR-8
I'm afraid our mascot has gone on hiatus for a long
time. The cult leader finally wised up and pulled her
from the atheist outreach ministry. Maybe we will
see her reincarnate with a new nym taking a more
thoughtful tack.
Your willful misinterpretation only shows your own
confusion. However, I suspect that a large part of it
is artificial just to confuse the issue instead of the
other way around. You should have understood the
second law as well as I, but you chose to be stupid.
The same for BR-8 for his mother's mental inability.
Nonsense. I only summarized what you have already said
about your version, the 2nd Suggestion.
Of course i have some understanding of the 2nd law.
Your level understanding, otoh, is negative, since you
"know" more wrong stuff about it than right stuff.
Does your cult leader know you snuck back onto the
computer?
You never once discussed the application of the second law
on life. In fact, you are quite good at avoiding it. Why?
You are trying to change the subject. With what in my
summation of the 2nd Suggestion do you disagree?
I will say that i don't know much biochemistry, tho i have
corrected you on the 2nd law in relation to it.
If you want to know more biology or biochemistry, especially
in relation to thermodynamics, you should have listened to
BR-8. You don't, so you didn't.
The subject is about applying the second law on life. There is
no other subject. Those other subjects are all your
distractions to avoid the real issue.
The subject is your kooky theories. Did I summarize your 2nd
Suggestion well? If not, please point out where you disagree.
So far you have not been able to discuss any science with anyone.
What does that leave us with?
I have no theories. I only have my simple logic that proves
evolution wrong.
Actually, no.
What you do have is your having declared evolution is wrong. That,
and nothing more.
More specifically, you have pointed to structures and processes
wherein local decreases in entropy are driven by overall increases in
entropy of the world as a whole, structures and processes in which a
portion of the energy is stored -- and then declared, by fiat and ex
cathedra and with no supporting evidence, that such cannot arise by
natural means.
No. I proved why such local decrease of entropy should not happen
automatically and randomly under the second law. It can only happen
within a designed process. Refrigerator has to be designed. Power
station has to be man-made. Nature does not have the ability to
accumulate energy except in life. It is what makes life unique and special.
Post by Blue Ringed 8
Which is simply your opinion, and nothing more than your opinion.
Opinions do not rise to the level of proof.
There are people who know infinitely more than you do about such
matters who are actively researching pathways by which these could
arise naturally. Nick Lane and Bill Martin are two who come to mind
immediately. Lane has put out quite a longish book laying out in
great detail the thermodynamics, chemistry, and biology of his ideas.
And is currently conducting experiments testing those ideas. This is
what we call "science".
Of course, given the astonishing arrogance of someone who could
declare, here, that "I have understood evolution without reading a
single sentence from any book or article about evolution", then it's
not surprising that you cannot distinguish between your uninformed
opinion and actual proof.
BR-8
We have not been able to discuss science because you ignore my
Post by aaa
simple scientific point about the second law. You don't discuss.
You work to distract and confuse the issue.
Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness,
intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, peace, freedom, and life
itself.
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happiness, faith, courage, peace, freedom, and life itself.
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2017-06-23 06:15:48 UTC
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Post by Peter Pan
On Friday, June 16, 2017 at 4:05:50 PM UTC-7,
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 04:55:46 +0800, Peter Pan
Post by Peter Pan
The Second Law of Thermodynamics has been
replaced with the Second Suggestion of
Thermodynamics.
***********begin SSoT************************
Nothing can happen without causing disorder and
deterioration of the universe, except
refrigerators or other manmade intelligently
designed appliances, and living things, but
even those can only go against this Suggestion
but not violate it. Anything that looks
disorderly & untidy is called entropy.
This Suggestion applies to the whole universe,
and since everything is part of the whole
universe, it applies to them too, whether they
are open or closed systems. Unless they are
manmade or living, or unless God wanted it that
way.
Errors cannot be made in copying DNA, unless
they are beneficial changes, which will then
reduce the entropy of the organism. The
organism has intelligence built into it to know
when to beneficially change its DNA. If the
organism's intelligence isn't sure, it will
pray for guidance. Even bacteria can pray.
Organisms with less entropy are special. All
this is called intelligent design. Evolution
is not allowed, except God can cause evolution,
but then it's not called evolution.
Things with less entropy will float. This is
because anti-entropy has anti-gravity
properties. That is why hot air balloons go up
instead of falling. Things with more entropy
will sink. Entropy is heavy. Sunlight and
other energy cause entropy. Entropy particles
are exported from the sun to the earth in cargo
containers.
Only manmade or living things can preserve
energy, even though some dead things can store
energy. Storing and preserving energy are
different, but you don't need to know the
difference. It's just different.
This Suggestion is proven by the Spiritual
Evidence of love, peace, truth, bunnies &
strawberry ice cream.
All things are Suggested to comply immediately,
or Jesus will pay you a visit. That will be
all. *************end
SSoT************************
Is that about right?
An excellent summation. And easily as coherent as
the source.
I pretty much threw in the towel when he informed
me that a peacock with a bigger flashier tail is a
peacock in a lower state of entropy, and that's why
the peahens dig him.
Well, that and when he firmly told me that my
mother wasn't actually horribly, piteously
frustrated by being unable to find her words due to
her Wernike's aphasia, it just looked that way to
us on the outside.
BR-8
I'm afraid our mascot has gone on hiatus for a long
time. The cult leader finally wised up and pulled her
from the atheist outreach ministry. Maybe we will
see her reincarnate with a new nym taking a more
thoughtful tack.
Your willful misinterpretation only shows your own
confusion. However, I suspect that a large part of it
is artificial just to confuse the issue instead of the
other way around. You should have understood the
second law as well as I, but you chose to be stupid.
The same for BR-8 for his mother's mental inability.
Nonsense. I only summarized what you have already said
about your version, the 2nd Suggestion.
Of course i have some understanding of the 2nd law.
Your level understanding, otoh, is negative, since you
"know" more wrong stuff about it than right stuff.
Does your cult leader know you snuck back onto the
computer?
You never once discussed the application of the second law
on life. In fact, you are quite good at avoiding it. Why?
You are trying to change the subject. With what in my
summation of the 2nd Suggestion do you disagree?
I will say that i don't know much biochemistry, tho i have
corrected you on the 2nd law in relation to it.
If you want to know more biology or biochemistry, especially
in relation to thermodynamics, you should have listened to
BR-8. You don't, so you didn't.
The subject is about applying the second law on life. There is
no other subject. Those other subjects are all your
distractions to avoid the real issue.
The subject is your kooky theories. Did I summarize your 2nd
Suggestion well? If not, please point out where you disagree.
So far you have not been able to discuss any science with anyone.
What does that leave us with?
I have no theories. I only have my simple logic that proves
evolution wrong.
Actually, no.
What you do have is your having declared evolution is wrong. That,
and nothing more.
More specifically, you have pointed to structures and processes
wherein local decreases in entropy are driven by overall increases in
entropy of the world as a whole, structures and processes in which a
portion of the energy is stored -- and then declared, by fiat and ex
cathedra and with no supporting evidence, that such cannot arise by
natural means.
No. I proved why such local decrease of entropy should not happen
automatically and randomly under the second law.
Actually, you did not. You stated it as if it were a fact. Not only is it
merely your opinion, it is your unsupported and unevidenced opinion.
If you want to talk physics -- and thermodynamics is nothing other
than physics -- then support your claim using physics.
Post by aaa
It can only happen within a designed process.
Ditto.
Post by aaa
Refrigerator has to be designed. Power
station has to be man-made. Nature does not have the ability to
accumulate energy except in life.
Nature has many ways of accumulating energy. You were given
several examples.
Post by aaa
It is what makes life unique and special.
Which in no way demonstrates that these processes cannot arise naturally,
one small step at a time.

Do allow me to repeat myself:

There are people who know infinitely more than you do about such
matters who are actively researching pathways by which these could
arise naturally. Nick Lane and Bill Martin are two who come to mind
immediately. Lane has put out quite a longish book laying out in
great detail the thermodynamics, chemistry, and biology of his ideas.
And is currently conducting experiments testing those ideas. This is
what we call "science".

BR-8
Post by aaa
Post by Blue Ringed 8
Which is simply your opinion, and nothing more than your opinion.
Opinions do not rise to the level of proof.
There are people who know infinitely more than you do about such
matters who are actively researching pathways by which these could
arise naturally. Nick Lane and Bill Martin are two who come to mind
immediately. Lane has put out quite a longish book laying out in
great detail the thermodynamics, chemistry, and biology of his ideas.
And is currently conducting experiments testing those ideas. This is
what we call "science".
Of course, given the astonishing arrogance of someone who could
declare, here, that "I have understood evolution without reading a
single sentence from any book or article about evolution", then it's
not surprising that you cannot distinguish between your uninformed
opinion and actual proof.
BR-8
We have not been able to discuss science because you ignore my
Post by aaa
simple scientific point about the second law. You don't discuss.
You work to distract and confuse the issue.
Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness,
intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, peace, freedom, and life
itself.
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happiness, faith, courage, peace, freedom, and life itself.
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2017-06-24 06:24:05 UTC
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Post by Peter Pan
Post by aaa
Post by Peter Pan
Post by aaa
Post by Peter Pan
On Friday, June 16, 2017 at 4:05:50 PM UTC-7,
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 04:55:46 +0800, Peter
Post by Peter Pan
The Second Law of Thermodynamics has been
replaced with the Second Suggestion of
Thermodynamics.
***********begin
SSoT************************ Nothing can
happen without causing disorder and
deterioration of the universe, except
refrigerators or other manmade
intelligently designed appliances, and
living things, but even those can only go
against this Suggestion but not violate it.
Anything that looks disorderly & untidy is
called entropy.
This Suggestion applies to the whole
universe, and since everything is part of
the whole universe, it applies to them too,
whether they are open or closed systems.
Unless they are manmade or living, or
unless God wanted it that way.
Errors cannot be made in copying DNA,
unless they are beneficial changes, which
will then reduce the entropy of the
organism. The organism has intelligence
built into it to know when to beneficially
change its DNA. If the organism's
intelligence isn't sure, it will pray for
guidance. Even bacteria can pray.
Organisms with less entropy are special.
All this is called intelligent design.
Evolution is not allowed, except God can
cause evolution, but then it's not called
evolution.
Things with less entropy will float. This
is because anti-entropy has anti-gravity
properties. That is why hot air balloons
go up instead of falling. Things with more
entropy will sink. Entropy is heavy.
Sunlight and other energy cause entropy.
Entropy particles are exported from the sun
to the earth in cargo containers.
Only manmade or living things can preserve
energy, even though some dead things can
store energy. Storing and preserving
energy are different, but you don't need to
know the difference. It's just different.
This Suggestion is proven by the Spiritual
Evidence of love, peace, truth, bunnies &
strawberry ice cream.
All things are Suggested to comply
immediately, or Jesus will pay you a visit.
That will be all. *************end
SSoT************************
Is that about right?
An excellent summation. And easily as coherent
as the source.
I pretty much threw in the towel when he
informed me that a peacock with a bigger
flashier tail is a peacock in a lower state of
entropy, and that's why the peahens dig him.
Well, that and when he firmly told me that my
mother wasn't actually horribly, piteously
frustrated by being unable to find her words
due to her Wernike's aphasia, it just looked
that way to us on the outside.
BR-8
I'm afraid our mascot has gone on hiatus for a
long time. The cult leader finally wised up and
pulled her from the atheist outreach ministry.
Maybe we will see her reincarnate with a new nym
taking a more thoughtful tack.
Your willful misinterpretation only shows your own
confusion. However, I suspect that a large part of
it is artificial just to confuse the issue instead
of the other way around. You should have understood
the second law as well as I, but you chose to be
stupid. The same for BR-8 for his mother's mental
inability.
Nonsense. I only summarized what you have already
said about your version, the 2nd Suggestion.
Of course i have some understanding of the 2nd law.
Your level understanding, otoh, is negative, since
you "know" more wrong stuff about it than right
stuff.
Does your cult leader know you snuck back onto the
computer?
You never once discussed the application of the second
law on life. In fact, you are quite good at avoiding
it. Why?
You are trying to change the subject. With what in my
summation of the 2nd Suggestion do you disagree?
I will say that i don't know much biochemistry, tho i
have corrected you on the 2nd law in relation to it.
If you want to know more biology or biochemistry,
especially in relation to thermodynamics, you should have
listened to BR-8. You don't, so you didn't.
The subject is about applying the second law on life. There
is no other subject. Those other subjects are all your
distractions to avoid the real issue.
The subject is your kooky theories. Did I summarize your
2nd Suggestion well? If not, please point out where you
disagree.
So far you have not been able to discuss any science with
anyone. What does that leave us with?
I have no theories. I only have my simple logic that proves
evolution wrong.
Actually, no.
What you do have is your having declared evolution is wrong.
That, and nothing more.
More specifically, you have pointed to structures and processes
wherein local decreases in entropy are driven by overall
increases in entropy of the world as a whole, structures and
processes in which a portion of the energy is stored -- and then
declared, by fiat and ex cathedra and with no supporting
evidence, that such cannot arise by natural means.
No. I proved why such local decrease of entropy should not happen
automatically and randomly under the second law.
Actually, you did not. You stated it as if it were a fact. Not only
is it merely your opinion, it is your unsupported and unevidenced
opinion. If you want to talk physics -- and thermodynamics is nothing
other than physics -- then support your claim using physics.
I have shown with examples of energy preservation where reduced local
entropy is accomplished by the work of human intelligence. Without a
designed process that can go against the second law, such energy
preservation is not possible. This is just a simple fact for people to
see and realize. Energy preservation does not happen in the lifeless
natural world. All energy in nature will only increase the entropy to
become used energy. Such used energy would not be used again unless it
is released or freed by reducing the entropy it has increased.
Post by Blue Ringed 8
Post by aaa
It can only happen within a designed process.
Ditto.
Battery is the result of human design. So are power plants and
refrigerators.
Post by Blue Ringed 8
Post by aaa
Refrigerator has to be designed. Power station has to be man-made.
Nature does not have the ability to accumulate energy except in
life.
Nature has many ways of accumulating energy. You were given several
examples.
They are false examples. The energy absorbed by things in nature are
used to increase entropy. It's used energy. It not an available energy
unless the human intelligence can create a process to free such energy
again by reducing the entropy. It is not the preservation of energy. The
preservation of energy is about the part of the work done by the human
intelligence.
Post by Blue Ringed 8
Post by aaa
It is what makes life unique and special.
Which in no way demonstrates that these processes cannot arise
naturally, one small step at a time.
There is no energy preservation happening in the lifeless nature because
energy preservation requires moving against the second law. It's the
same as objects don't just fly up into the sky to stay up there by
simple random chance. The force of gravity will keep objects stay on the
ground. The force of the second law will keep energy used as increased
entropy.
Post by Blue Ringed 8
There are people who know infinitely more than you do about such
matters who are actively researching pathways by which these could
arise naturally. Nick Lane and Bill Martin are two who come to mind
immediately. Lane has put out quite a longish book laying out in
great detail the thermodynamics, chemistry, and biology of his
ideas. And is currently conducting experiments testing those ideas.
This is what we call "science".
If it's real science, it should not contradicts with the second law.
Energy preservation is quite possible, but it has to move against the
second law which would not happen without intelligence involved.
Post by Blue Ringed 8
BR-8
Post by aaa
Post by Blue Ringed 8
Which is simply your opinion, and nothing more than your
opinion. Opinions do not rise to the level of proof.
There are people who know infinitely more than you do about such
matters who are actively researching pathways by which these
could arise naturally. Nick Lane and Bill Martin are two who
come to mind immediately. Lane has put out quite a longish book
laying out in great detail the thermodynamics, chemistry, and
biology of his ideas. And is currently conducting experiments
testing those ideas. This is what we call "science".
Of course, given the astonishing arrogance of someone who could
declare, here, that "I have understood evolution without reading
a single sentence from any book or article about evolution", then
it's not surprising that you cannot distinguish between your
uninformed opinion and actual proof.
BR-8
We have not been able to discuss science because you ignore my
Post by aaa
simple scientific point about the second law. You don't
discuss. You work to distract and confuse the issue.
Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness,
intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, peace, freedom, and
life itself.
Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness,
intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, peace, freedom, and life
itself.
--
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happiness, faith, courage, peace, freedom, and life itself.
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Post by Peter Pan
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Post by Peter Pan
Post by aaa
Post by Peter Pan
On Friday, June 16, 2017 at 4:05:50 PM UTC-7,
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 04:55:46 +0800, Peter
Post by Peter Pan
The Second Law of Thermodynamics has been
replaced with the Second Suggestion of
Thermodynamics.
***********begin
SSoT************************ Nothing can
happen without causing disorder and
deterioration of the universe, except
refrigerators or other manmade
intelligently designed appliances, and
living things, but even those can only go
against this Suggestion but not violate it.
Anything that looks disorderly & untidy is
called entropy.
This Suggestion applies to the whole
universe, and since everything is part of
the whole universe, it applies to them too,
whether they are open or closed systems.
Unless they are manmade or living, or
unless God wanted it that way.
Errors cannot be made in copying DNA,
unless they are beneficial changes, which
will then reduce the entropy of the
organism. The organism has intelligence
built into it to know when to beneficially
change its DNA. If the organism's
intelligence isn't sure, it will pray for
guidance. Even bacteria can pray.
Organisms with less entropy are special.
All this is called intelligent design.
Evolution is not allowed, except God can
cause evolution, but then it's not called
evolution.
Things with less entropy will float. This
is because anti-entropy has anti-gravity
properties. That is why hot air balloons
go up instead of falling. Things with more
entropy will sink. Entropy is heavy.
Sunlight and other energy cause entropy.
Entropy particles are exported from the sun
to the earth in cargo containers.
Only manmade or living things can preserve
energy, even though some dead things can
store energy. Storing and preserving
energy are different, but you don't need to
know the difference. It's just different.
This Suggestion is proven by the Spiritual
Evidence of love, peace, truth, bunnies &
strawberry ice cream.
All things are Suggested to comply
immediately, or Jesus will pay you a visit.
That will be all. *************end
SSoT************************
Is that about right?
An excellent summation. And easily as coherent
as the source.
I pretty much threw in the towel when he
informed me that a peacock with a bigger
flashier tail is a peacock in a lower state of
entropy, and that's why the peahens dig him.
Well, that and when he firmly told me that my
mother wasn't actually horribly, piteously
frustrated by being unable to find her words
due to her Wernike's aphasia, it just looked
that way to us on the outside.
BR-8
I'm afraid our mascot has gone on hiatus for a
long time. The cult leader finally wised up and
pulled her from the atheist outreach ministry.
Maybe we will see her reincarnate with a new nym
taking a more thoughtful tack.
Your willful misinterpretation only shows your own
confusion. However, I suspect that a large part of
it is artificial just to confuse the issue instead
of the other way around. You should have understood
the second law as well as I, but you chose to be
stupid. The same for BR-8 for his mother's mental
inability.
Nonsense. I only summarized what you have already
said about your version, the 2nd Suggestion.
Of course i have some understanding of the 2nd law.
Your level understanding, otoh, is negative, since
you "know" more wrong stuff about it than right
stuff.
Does your cult leader know you snuck back onto the
computer?
You never once discussed the application of the second
law on life. In fact, you are quite good at avoiding
it. Why?
You are trying to change the subject. With what in my
summation of the 2nd Suggestion do you disagree?
I will say that i don't know much biochemistry, tho i
have corrected you on the 2nd law in relation to it.
If you want to know more biology or biochemistry,
especially in relation to thermodynamics, you should have
listened to BR-8. You don't, so you didn't.
The subject is about applying the second law on life. There
is no other subject. Those other subjects are all your
distractions to avoid the real issue.
The subject is your kooky theories. Did I summarize your
2nd Suggestion well? If not, please point out where you
disagree.
So far you have not been able to discuss any science with
anyone. What does that leave us with?
I have no theories. I only have my simple logic that proves
evolution wrong.
Actually, no.
What you do have is your having declared evolution is wrong.
That, and nothing more.
More specifically, you have pointed to structures and processes
wherein local decreases in entropy are driven by overall
increases in entropy of the world as a whole, structures and
processes in which a portion of the energy is stored -- and then
declared, by fiat and ex cathedra and with no supporting
evidence, that such cannot arise by natural means.
No. I proved why such local decrease of entropy should not happen
automatically and randomly under the second law.
Actually, you did not. You stated it as if it were a fact. Not only
is it merely your opinion, it is your unsupported and unevidenced
opinion. If you want to talk physics -- and thermodynamics is nothing
other than physics -- then support your claim using physics.
I have shown with examples of energy preservation where reduced local
entropy is accomplished by the work of human intelligence.
Good for you. That has nothing to do with whether such situations
can or cannot also arise naturally.
Post by aaa
Without a
designed process that can go against the second law, such energy
preservation is not possible.
Ah, here we go again. Opinion as proof...

(and by the way, nothing -- NOTHING -- "goes against the second law")
Post by aaa
This is just a simple fact for people to
see and realize.
I do see your point. And I do realize what you are saying.
And it is incorrect, for reasons given endlessly here.
Post by aaa
Energy preservation does not happen in the lifeless
natural world.
But it does. And you have been given examples of such.
But those simple examples do not go to the larger point,
which is this: you claim that life cannot spontaneously
arise. That is nothing more than your opinion. It
can, and it has (see, there's my opinion. oddly enough the
same opinion of most of those who actually, unlike you -- or me --
work in this field). And if life did arise purely by natural means,
then any example of biological "energy perservation" you come up
will be an example that came about naturally, no Sky Wizard necessary.
Post by aaa
All energy in nature will only increase the entropy to
become used energy. Such used energy would not be used again unless it
is released or freed by reducing the entropy it has increased.
Good grief. Sciento-babble much? Stored energy, whether in
a human device or a mitochondrion, is not energy that somehow
gets "used again". I don't think you understand the flow of
energy involved in these processes at all.
Post by aaa
Post by Blue Ringed 8
Post by aaa
It can only happen within a designed process.
Ditto.
Battery is the result of human design. So are power plants and
refrigerators.
Yep. And bacteria are not. What you have to show, what you have
not shown -- and cannot -- is that bacteria did not evolve, eventually,
way down the chain of increasing complexity, from non-living matter and
naturally occurring energy gradients.

All you have done to date is to say "CAN'T HAPPEN CAN'T HAPPEN CAN'T HAPPEN""
while throwing in some pseudoscientific babble along the way.

In other words: your opinion.
Post by aaa
Post by Blue Ringed 8
Post by aaa
Refrigerator has to be designed. Power station has to be man-made.
Nature does not have the ability to accumulate energy except in
life.
Nature has many ways of accumulating energy. You were given several
examples.
They are false examples.
Oh? A bold statement.

Tell you what: list those examples, and for each item, specify exactly,
in terms of the thermodynamics involved, why you call them "false examples".
Post by aaa
The energy absorbed by things in nature are
used to increase entropy.
Everything increases entropy. Everything.
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It's used energy. It not an available energy
unless the human intelligence can create a process to free such energy
again by reducing the entropy.
Battery or bacterium, it does not "free the energy" that was spent
storing it.

You really don't understand thermodynamics at all. Or if you do,
your words don't reflect it.
Post by aaa
It is not the preservation of energy. The
preservation of energy is about the part of the work done by the human
intelligence.
Completely lifeless processes also "preserve energy". Would
you like to go through some examples yet again?
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It is what makes life unique and special.
Which in no way demonstrates that these processes cannot arise
naturally, one small step at a time.
There is no energy preservation happening in the lifeless nature because
energy preservation requires moving against the second law.
Nothing "moves against the second law".
Post by aaa
It's the
same as objects don't just fly up into the sky to stay up there by
simple random chance.
Water molecules in fact do "fly up into the sky" due to convection
currents ultimately created by energy from the sun. And they do
"stay up there" unless the encounter a number of specific conditions.
No "simple random chance" required.

And the stored energy they represent is easily calculated: (G * M * m) / r^2.
Units are a matter of choice.
Post by aaa
The force of gravity will keep objects stay on the
ground. The force of the second law will keep energy used as increased
entropy.
Post by Blue Ringed 8
There are people who know infinitely more than you do about such
matters who are actively researching pathways by which these could
arise naturally. Nick Lane and Bill Martin are two who come to mind
immediately. Lane has put out quite a longish book laying out in
great detail the thermodynamics, chemistry, and biology of his
ideas. And is currently conducting experiments testing those ideas.
This is what we call "science".
If it's real science, it should not contradicts with the second law.
Gee, did you not see where I said Lane discusses the thermodynamics of his proposal?
Do I need to repeat it yet a third time?

Very well:

Lane has proposed a process by which life might have arisen in
alkaline cold seeps, and he has worked out the energetic requirements
of his proposal, arising from a naturally occurring proton gradient found
in such environments.

Lane has proposed a process by which life might have arisen in
alkaline cold seeps, and he has worked out the energetic requirements
of his proposal, arising from a naturally occurring proton gradient found
in such environments.

Lane has proposed a process by which life might have arisen in
alkaline cold seeps, and he has worked out the energetic requirements
of his proposal, arising from a naturally occurring proton gradient found
in such environments.

Got it now? He would be the first person to admit it if his proposal
"contradicts the second law".

But since you're the guy who bragged that he "understood evolution without reading a
single sentence from any book or article about evolution", maybe you are also going
to tell us you similarly understand Lane and Martin's proposal while not
actually having read a single sentence of it as well?
Post by aaa
Energy preservation is quite possible, but it has to move against the
second law which would not happen without intelligence involved.
Happens all the time. And neither intelligence nor life is necessary.
And nothing "moves against the second law", did I not mention that before?

To put it as bluntly as I possibly can: I understand the simple physics
involved, and you, obviously and clearly, do not.


BR-8
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On Friday, June 16, 2017 at 4:05:50 PM UTC-7,
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 04:55:46 +0800, Peter Pan
Post by Peter Pan
The Second Law of Thermodynamics has been
replaced with the Second Suggestion of
Thermodynamics.
***********begin SSoT************************
Nothing can happen without causing disorder and
deterioration of the universe, except
refrigerators or other manmade intelligently
designed appliances, and living things, but
even those can only go against this Suggestion
but not violate it. Anything that looks
disorderly & untidy is called entropy.
This Suggestion applies to the whole universe,
and since everything is part of the whole
universe, it applies to them too, whether they
are open or closed systems. Unless they are
manmade or living, or unless God wanted it that
way.
Errors cannot be made in copying DNA, unless
they are beneficial changes, which will then
reduce the entropy of the organism. The
organism has intelligence built into it to know
when to beneficially change its DNA. If the
organism's intelligence isn't sure, it will
pray for guidance. Even bacteria can pray.
Organisms with less entropy are special. All
this is called intelligent design. Evolution
is not allowed, except God can cause evolution,
but then it's not called evolution.
Things with less entropy will float. This is
because anti-entropy has anti-gravity
properties. That is why hot air balloons go up
instead of falling. Things with more entropy
will sink. Entropy is heavy. Sunlight and
other energy cause entropy. Entropy particles
are exported from the sun to the earth in cargo
containers.
Only manmade or living things can preserve
energy, even though some dead things can store
energy. Storing and preserving energy are
different, but you don't need to know the
difference. It's just different.
This Suggestion is proven by the Spiritual
Evidence of love, peace, truth, bunnies &
strawberry ice cream.
All things are Suggested to comply immediately,
or Jesus will pay you a visit. That will be
all. *************end
SSoT************************
Is that about right?
An excellent summation. And easily as coherent as
the source.
I pretty much threw in the towel when he informed
me that a peacock with a bigger flashier tail is a
peacock in a lower state of entropy, and that's why
the peahens dig him.
Well, that and when he firmly told me that my
mother wasn't actually horribly, piteously
frustrated by being unable to find her words due to
her Wernike's aphasia, it just looked that way to
us on the outside.
BR-8
I'm afraid our mascot has gone on hiatus for a long
time. The cult leader finally wised up and pulled her
from the atheist outreach ministry. Maybe we will
see her reincarnate with a new nym taking a more
thoughtful tack.
Your willful misinterpretation only shows your own
confusion. However, I suspect that a large part of it
is artificial just to confuse the issue instead of the
other way around. You should have understood the
second law as well as I, but you chose to be stupid.
The same for BR-8 for his mother's mental inability.
Nonsense. I only summarized what you have already said
about your version, the 2nd Suggestion.
Of course i have some understanding of the 2nd law.
Your level understanding, otoh, is negative, since you
"know" more wrong stuff about it than right stuff.
Does your cult leader know you snuck back onto the
computer?
You never once discussed the application of the second law
on life. In fact, you are quite good at avoiding it. Why?
You are trying to change the subject. With what in my
summation of the 2nd Suggestion do you disagree?
I will say that i don't know much biochemistry, tho i have
corrected you on the 2nd law in relation to it.
If you want to know more biology or biochemistry, especially
in relation to thermodynamics, you should have listened to
BR-8. You don't, so you didn't.
The subject is about applying the second law on life. There is
no other subject. Those other subjects are all your
distractions to avoid the real issue.
The subject is your kooky theories. Did I summarize your 2nd
Suggestion well? If not, please point out where you disagree.
So far you have not been able to discuss any science with anyone.
What does that leave us with?
I have no theories. I only have my simple logic that proves
evolution wrong.
Actually, no.
What you do have is your having declared evolution is wrong. That,
and nothing more.
More specifically, you have pointed to structures and processes
wherein local decreases in entropy are driven by overall increases in
entropy of the world as a whole, structures and processes in which a
portion of the energy is stored -- and then declared, by fiat and ex
cathedra and with no supporting evidence, that such cannot arise by
natural means.
No. I proved why such local decrease of entropy should not happen
automatically and randomly under the second law.
Only in your dreams Retardo.


It can only happen
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within a designed process.
Unevidenced claim.

Refrigerator has to be designed. Power
Post by aaa
station has to be man-made. Nature does not have the ability to
accumulate energy except in life.
Whatever the fuck that means.

It is what makes life unique and special.
Many things make life special. Evolution and random mutation, for example, make life amazing when you track how evolution has worked to adapt living things for survival.
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Post by Blue Ringed 8
Which is simply your opinion, and nothing more than your opinion.
Opinions do not rise to the level of proof.
There are people who know infinitely more than you do about such
matters who are actively researching pathways by which these could
arise naturally. Nick Lane and Bill Martin are two who come to mind
immediately. Lane has put out quite a longish book laying out in
great detail the thermodynamics, chemistry, and biology of his ideas.
And is currently conducting experiments testing those ideas. This is
what we call "science".
Of course, given the astonishing arrogance of someone who could
declare, here, that "I have understood evolution without reading a
single sentence from any book or article about evolution", then it's
not surprising that you cannot distinguish between your uninformed
opinion and actual proof.
BR-8
Nobody is really that stupid. He's playing us.
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We have not been able to discuss science because you ignore my
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simple scientific point about the second law.
Because it is not the second law.

You don't discuss.
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You work to distract and confuse the issue.
Another bit of irony from Retardo the Wonder Turd.
aaa
2017-06-24 05:22:04 UTC
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It is what makes life unique and special.
Many things make life special. Evolution and random mutation, for
example, make life amazing when you track how evolution has worked
to adapt living things for survival.
Nothing is amazing in a random chaos. It's nothing but a figment of
imagination to believe otherwise.

The order that is created out of chaos is the result of working against
the second law. It can only be accomplished by intelligence which has
been evidenced by the human intelligence.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, peace, freedom, and life itself.
Lucifer Morningstar
2017-06-24 08:06:54 UTC
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It is what makes life unique and special.
Many things make life special. Evolution and random mutation, for
example, make life amazing when you track how evolution has worked
to adapt living things for survival.
Nothing is amazing in a random chaos. It's nothing but a figment of
imagination to believe otherwise.
The order that is created out of chaos is the result of working against
the second law. It can only be accomplished by intelligence which has
been evidenced by the human intelligence.
Reality is far more interesting than your imagination.

I suggest you make a post with all your logic/evidence/proof and
repost it at least once a week. That way we won't be able to ignore
it.
Cloud Hobbit
2017-06-23 01:57:31 UTC
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Post by Blue Ringed 8
The Second Law of Thermodynamics has been replaced with the Second
Suggestion of Thermodynamics.
***********begin SSoT************************
Nothing can happen without causing disorder and deterioration of the
universe, except refrigerators or other manmade intelligently designed
appliances, and living things, but even those can only go against this
Suggestion but not violate it. Anything that looks disorderly & untidy
is called entropy.
This Suggestion applies to the whole universe, and since everything is
part of the whole universe, it applies to them too, whether they are
open or closed systems. Unless they are manmade or living, or unless God
wanted it that way.
Errors cannot be made in copying DNA, unless they are beneficial
changes, which will then reduce the entropy of the organism. The
organism has intelligence built into it to know when to beneficially
change its DNA. If the organism's intelligence isn't sure, it will pray
for guidance. Even bacteria can pray. Organisms with less entropy are
special. All this is called intelligent design. Evolution is not
allowed, except God can cause evolution, but then it's not called
evolution.
Things with less entropy will float. This is because anti-entropy has
anti-gravity properties. That is why hot air balloons go up instead of
falling. Things with more entropy will sink. Entropy is heavy.
Sunlight and other energy cause entropy. Entropy particles are exported
from the sun to the earth in cargo containers.
Only manmade or living things can preserve energy, even though some dead
things can store energy. Storing and preserving energy are different,
but you don't need to know the difference. It's just different.
This Suggestion is proven by the Spiritual Evidence of love, peace,
truth, bunnies & strawberry ice cream.
All things are Suggested to comply immediately, or Jesus will pay you a
visit. That will be all. *************end SSoT************************
Is that about right?
An excellent summation. And easily as coherent as the source.
I pretty much threw in the towel when he informed me that a
peacock with a bigger flashier tail is a peacock in a lower state
of entropy, and that's why the peahens dig him.
Well, that and when he firmly told me that my mother wasn't
actually horribly, piteously frustrated by being unable to find her words
due to her Wernike's aphasia, it just looked that way to us
on the outside.
BR-8
I'm afraid our mascot has gone on hiatus for a long time.
The cult leader finally wised up and pulled her from the
atheist outreach ministry. Maybe we will see her
reincarnate with a new nym taking a more thoughtful tack.
Your willful misinterpretation only shows your own confusion. However, I
suspect that a large part of it is artificial just to confuse the issue
instead of the other way around. You should have understood the second
law as well as I, but you chose to be stupid. The same for BR-8 for his
mother's mental inability.
Nonsense. I only summarized what you have already said
about your version, the 2nd Suggestion.
Of course i have some understanding of the 2nd law. Your
level understanding, otoh, is negative, since you "know"
more wrong stuff about it than right stuff.
Does your cult leader know you snuck back onto the
computer?
You never once discussed the application of the second law on life. In
fact, you are quite good at avoiding it. Why?
You are trying to change the subject. With what in my
summation of the 2nd Suggestion do you disagree?
I will say that i don't know much biochemistry, tho i
have corrected you on the 2nd law in relation to it.
If you want to know more biology or biochemistry,
especially in relation to thermodynamics, you should have
listened to BR-8. You don't, so you didn't.
The subject is about applying the second law on life. There is no other
subject. Those other subjects are all your distractions to avoid the
real issue.
The subject is your kooky theories. Did I summarize your
2nd Suggestion well? If not, please point out where you
disagree.
So far you have not been able to discuss any science with
anyone. What does that leave us with?
I have no theories.
No shit Sherlock.

I only have my simple logic that proves evolution
Post by aaa
wrong.
What you have is your statement which is not supported by reality.


We have not been able to discuss science because you ignore my
Post by aaa
simple scientific point about the second law.
You have not made a scientific point about the second law.

You don't discuss. You
Post by aaa
work to distract and confuse the issue.
Until you actually use the second law, there is nothing to talk about.
You're just a loon who says loony things.
Nobody gives a fuck about what you say other than it's easy to make fun of.
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The Second Law of Thermodynamics has been replaced with the Second
Suggestion of Thermodynamics.
***********begin SSoT************************
Nothing can happen without causing disorder and deterioration of the
universe, except refrigerators or other manmade intelligently designed
appliances, and living things, but even those can only go against this
Suggestion but not violate it. Anything that looks disorderly & untidy
is called entropy.
This Suggestion applies to the whole universe, and since everything is
part of the whole universe, it applies to them too, whether they are
open or closed systems. Unless they are manmade or living, or unless God
wanted it that way.
Errors cannot be made in copying DNA, unless they are beneficial
changes, which will then reduce the entropy of the organism. The
organism has intelligence built into it to know when to beneficially
change its DNA. If the organism's intelligence isn't sure, it will pray
for guidance. Even bacteria can pray. Organisms with less entropy are
special. All this is called intelligent design. Evolution is not
allowed, except God can cause evolution, but then it's not called
evolution.
Things with less entropy will float. This is because anti-entropy has
anti-gravity properties. That is why hot air balloons go up instead of
falling. Things with more entropy will sink. Entropy is heavy.
Sunlight and other energy cause entropy. Entropy particles are exported
from the sun to the earth in cargo containers.
Only manmade or living things can preserve energy, even though some dead
things can store energy. Storing and preserving energy are different,
but you don't need to know the difference. It's just different.
This Suggestion is proven by the Spiritual Evidence of love, peace,
truth, bunnies & strawberry ice cream.
All things are Suggested to comply immediately, or Jesus will pay you a
visit. That will be all. *************end SSoT************************
Is that about right?
An excellent summation. And easily as coherent as the source.
I pretty much threw in the towel when he informed me that a
peacock with a bigger flashier tail is a peacock in a lower state
of entropy, and that's why the peahens dig him.
Well, that and when he firmly told me that my mother wasn't
actually horribly, piteously frustrated by being unable to find her words
due to her Wernike's aphasia, it just looked that way to us
on the outside.
BR-8
I'm afraid our mascot has gone on hiatus for a long time.
The cult leader finally wised up and pulled her from the
atheist outreach ministry. Maybe we will see her
reincarnate with a new nym taking a more thoughtful tack.
Your willful misinterpretation only shows your own confusion. However, I
suspect that a large part of it is artificial just to confuse the issue
instead of the other way around. You should have understood the second
law as well as I, but you chose to be stupid. The same for BR-8 for his
mother's mental inability.
Nonsense. I only summarized what you have already said
about your version, the 2nd Suggestion.
Of course i have some understanding of the 2nd law. Your
level understanding, otoh, is negative, since you "know"
more wrong stuff about it than right stuff.
Does your cult leader know you snuck back onto the
computer?
You never once discussed the application of the second law on life. In
fact, you are quite good at avoiding it. Why?
You are trying to change the subject. With what in my
summation of the 2nd Suggestion do you disagree?
I will say that i don't know much biochemistry, tho i
have corrected you on the 2nd law in relation to it.
If you want to know more biology or biochemistry,
especially in relation to thermodynamics, you should have
listened to BR-8. You don't, so you didn't.
The subject is about applying the second law on life. There is no other
subject. Those other subjects are all your distractions to avoid the
real issue.
But you didn't use the second law and everybody knows it.

You lose again Retardo.
Lucifer Morningstar
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Post by Blue Ringed 8
The Second Law of Thermodynamics has been replaced with the Second
Suggestion of Thermodynamics.
***********begin SSoT************************
Nothing can happen without causing disorder and deterioration of the
universe, except refrigerators or other manmade intelligently designed
appliances, and living things, but even those can only go against this
Suggestion but not violate it. Anything that looks disorderly & untidy
is called entropy.
This Suggestion applies to the whole universe, and since everything is
part of the whole universe, it applies to them too, whether they are
open or closed systems. Unless they are manmade or living, or unless God
wanted it that way.
Errors cannot be made in copying DNA, unless they are beneficial
changes, which will then reduce the entropy of the organism. The
organism has intelligence built into it to know when to beneficially
change its DNA. If the organism's intelligence isn't sure, it will pray
for guidance. Even bacteria can pray. Organisms with less entropy are
special. All this is called intelligent design. Evolution is not
allowed, except God can cause evolution, but then it's not called
evolution.
Things with less entropy will float. This is because anti-entropy has
anti-gravity properties. That is why hot air balloons go up instead of
falling. Things with more entropy will sink. Entropy is heavy.
Sunlight and other energy cause entropy. Entropy particles are exported
from the sun to the earth in cargo containers.
Only manmade or living things can preserve energy, even though some dead
things can store energy. Storing and preserving energy are different,
but you don't need to know the difference. It's just different.
This Suggestion is proven by the Spiritual Evidence of love, peace,
truth, bunnies & strawberry ice cream.
All things are Suggested to comply immediately, or Jesus will pay you a
visit. That will be all. *************end SSoT************************
Is that about right?
An excellent summation. And easily as coherent as the source.
Brilliant!
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Blue Ringed 8
I pretty much threw in the towel when he informed me that a
peacock with a bigger flashier tail is a peacock in a lower state
of entropy, and that's why the peahens dig him.
Well, that and when he firmly told me that my mother wasn't
actually horribly, piteously frustrated by being unable to find her words
due to her Wernike's aphasia, it just looked that way to us
on the outside.
BR-8
When I asked him why God doesn't make everything good he said
God does make everything good.
Post by Peter Pan
I'm afraid our mascot has gone on hiatus for a long time.
The cult leader finally wised up and pulled her from the
atheist outreach ministry. Maybe we will see her
reincarnate with a new nym taking a more thoughtful tack.
Your willful misinterpretation only shows your own confusion.
aaa is right about everything even when he is not.

You should have understood the second suggestion as well as aaa
but you chose to be sane.
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The Second Law of Thermodynamics has been replaced with the Second
Suggestion of Thermodynamics.
***********begin SSoT************************
Nothing can happen without causing disorder and deterioration of the
universe, except refrigerators or other manmade intelligently designed
appliances, and living things, but even those can only go against this
Suggestion but not violate it. Anything that looks disorderly & untidy
is called entropy.
This Suggestion applies to the whole universe, and since everything is
part of the whole universe, it applies to them too, whether they are
open or closed systems. Unless they are manmade or living, or unless God
wanted it that way.
Errors cannot be made in copying DNA, unless they are beneficial
changes, which will then reduce the entropy of the organism. The
organism has intelligence built into it to know when to beneficially
change its DNA. If the organism's intelligence isn't sure, it will pray
for guidance. Even bacteria can pray. Organisms with less entropy are
special. All this is called intelligent design. Evolution is not
allowed, except God can cause evolution, but then it's not called
evolution.
Things with less entropy will float. This is because anti-entropy has
anti-gravity properties. That is why hot air balloons go up instead of
falling. Things with more entropy will sink. Entropy is heavy.
Sunlight and other energy cause entropy. Entropy particles are exported
from the sun to the earth in cargo containers.
Only manmade or living things can preserve energy, even though some dead
things can store energy. Storing and preserving energy are different,
but you don't need to know the difference. It's just different.
This Suggestion is proven by the Spiritual Evidence of love, peace,
truth, bunnies & strawberry ice cream.
All things are Suggested to comply immediately, or Jesus will pay you a
visit. That will be all. *************end SSoT************************
Is that about right?
An excellent summation. And easily as coherent as the source.
Brilliant!
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Blue Ringed 8
I pretty much threw in the towel when he informed me that a
peacock with a bigger flashier tail is a peacock in a lower state
of entropy, and that's why the peahens dig him.
Well, that and when he firmly told me that my mother wasn't
actually horribly, piteously frustrated by being unable to find her words
due to her Wernike's aphasia, it just looked that way to us
on the outside.
BR-8
When I asked him why God doesn't make everything good he said
God does make everything good.
Post by Peter Pan
I'm afraid our mascot has gone on hiatus for a long time.
The cult leader finally wised up and pulled her from the
atheist outreach ministry. Maybe we will see her
reincarnate with a new nym taking a more thoughtful tack.
Your willful misinterpretation only shows your own confusion.
aaa is right about everything even when he is not.
You should have understood the second suggestion as well as aaa
but you chose to be sane.
Ooohhhhhh Noeeeeeesss!!

God's handmaiden will mock me severely for that!
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2017-06-23 01:52:30 UTC
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The Second Law of Thermodynamics has been replaced with the Second
Suggestion of Thermodynamics.
***********begin SSoT************************
Nothing can happen without causing disorder and deterioration of the
universe, except refrigerators or other manmade intelligently designed
appliances, and living things, but even those can only go against this
Suggestion but not violate it. Anything that looks disorderly & untidy
is called entropy.
This Suggestion applies to the whole universe, and since everything is
part of the whole universe, it applies to them too, whether they are
open or closed systems. Unless they are manmade or living, or unless God
wanted it that way.
Errors cannot be made in copying DNA, unless they are beneficial
changes, which will then reduce the entropy of the organism. The
organism has intelligence built into it to know when to beneficially
change its DNA. If the organism's intelligence isn't sure, it will pray
for guidance. Even bacteria can pray. Organisms with less entropy are
special. All this is called intelligent design. Evolution is not
allowed, except God can cause evolution, but then it's not called
evolution.
Things with less entropy will float. This is because anti-entropy has
anti-gravity properties. That is why hot air balloons go up instead of
falling. Things with more entropy will sink. Entropy is heavy.
Sunlight and other energy cause entropy. Entropy particles are exported
from the sun to the earth in cargo containers.
Only manmade or living things can preserve energy, even though some dead
things can store energy. Storing and preserving energy are different,
but you don't need to know the difference. It's just different.
This Suggestion is proven by the Spiritual Evidence of love, peace,
truth, bunnies & strawberry ice cream.
All things are Suggested to comply immediately, or Jesus will pay you a
visit. That will be all. *************end SSoT************************
Is that about right?
An excellent summation. And easily as coherent as the source.
I pretty much threw in the towel when he informed me that a
peacock with a bigger flashier tail is a peacock in a lower state
of entropy, and that's why the peahens dig him.
Well, that and when he firmly told me that my mother wasn't
actually horribly, piteously frustrated by being unable to find her words
due to her Wernike's aphasia, it just looked that way to us
on the outside.
BR-8
I'm afraid our mascot has gone on hiatus for a long time.
The cult leader finally wised up and pulled her from the
atheist outreach ministry. Maybe we will see her
reincarnate with a new nym taking a more thoughtful tack.
Your willful misinterpretation only shows your own confusion.
However, I
Post by aaa
suspect that a large part of it is artificial just to confuse the issue
instead of the other way around.
Splat goes another irony meter.


You should have understood the second
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law as well as I,
There is no evidence that you understand the second law, if you did you would use it instead of the second Tripp invention.

The second law only applies to closed systems and earth is not such a system.


but you chose to be stupid.


2 irony meters in one post.


The same for BR-8 for his
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mother's mental inability.
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Spot on, except for one tiny thing,
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it's _chocolate_ ice cream, HERETIC!
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