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2017-10-12 00:17:02 UTC
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the prez is the commander in chief

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/04/12/donald-trump-military-school-sanchez-pkg-ebof.cnn
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2017-10-12 15:36:10 UTC
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the prez is the commander in chief
http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/04/12/donald-trump-military-school-sanchez-pkg-ebof.cnn
They should ship him off to boot camp because he's totally and
dangerously too incompetent to lead.
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2017-10-12 15:52:20 UTC
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the prez is the commander in chief
http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/04/12/donald-trump-military-school-sanchez-pkg-ebof.cnn
They should ship him off to boot camp because he's totally and
dangerously too incompetent to lead.
But you were wrong about him being in the military, and you certainly are not a military type to boot ...
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2017-10-15 00:34:01 UTC
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the prez is the commander in chief
http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/04/12/donald-trump-military-school-sanchez-pkg-ebof.cnn
They should ship him off to boot camp because he's totally and
dangerously too incompetent to lead.
But you were wrong about him being in the military,
I ignored your ill-informed opinion since CIC is not same as being in military; you
can find the arguments by vets on usenet.

At minimum, Trump is safe from any war he starts.
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2017-10-12 18:42:10 UTC
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the prez is the commander in chief
http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/04/12/donald-trump-military-school-sanchez-pkg-ebof.cnn
They should ship him off to boot camp
The first post in this was incorrect, as Trump is the top commander, and you certainly couldn't be in charge of the military for certain.

If I was in charge of the US military, which I am not, I would order a top down reassessment of the entire defense strategy of this country, which is perilously stupid and inane.
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2017-10-12 08:25:32 UTC
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DJ Trump got five deferments to stay out of military (Vietnam war).
None of his three grown children went into military.
Neither his father nor his grandfather went into military.

No other Trump, male or female, related to DJ Trump ever went into military.
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2017-10-12 09:50:17 UTC
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DJ Trump got five deferments to stay out of military (Vietnam war).
None of his three grown children went into military.
Neither his father nor his grandfather went into military.
The Donald went to a reform school disguised as a military school. So in his
mind that makes him a military hero and genius even better than Austrian
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2017-10-12 21:23:20 UTC
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Con man.
DJ Trump got five deferments to stay out of military (Vietnam war).
None of his three grown children went into military.
Neither his father nor his grandfather went into military.
The Donald went to a reform school disguised as a military school. So in his
mind that makes him a military hero and genius even better than Austrian
corporals.
Is that the school that's in the old Reichstag building?
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2017-10-12 13:37:21 UTC
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Con man.
DJ Trump got five deferments to stay out of military (Vietnam war).
None of his three grown children went into military.
Neither his father nor his grandfather went into military.
No other Trump, male or female, related to DJ Trump ever went into military.
So what. So did I, to complete my education. I was not anti-military
like Bill Clinton who got deferments and even protested the war. None
of my friends who were drafted and even fought objected to what I did.
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2017-10-13 23:39:27 UTC
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Con man.
DJ Trump got five deferments to stay out of military (Vietnam war).
None of his three grown children went into military.
Neither his father nor his grandfather went into military.
No other Trump, male or female, related to DJ Trump ever went into military.
So what. So did I, to complete my education. I was not anti-military
like Bill Clinton who got deferments and even protested the war. None
of my friends who were drafted and even fought objected to what I did.
if a person resists forced inscription we're supposed to think they aren't patriotic? What's the connection between patriotism and forced military? service?

I never knew anybody when I was in the military that cared one way or another about people not allowing themselves to be inducted.

There might have been some RA's (regular army types) who disapproved, but the draftees didn't seem to care.

A country that doesn't have enough people volunteering to defend it, doesn't deserve to exist.

In Viet Nam we were fighting to keep a group of evil people from taking over the government in the South that was just as evil.

Desert Storm motivations included the testimony of Nayirah al-Ṣabaḥ who happened to be the daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassador and her testimony was never confirmed. The testimony was widely publicized, and was cited numerous times by United States senators and President George H. W. Bush in their rationale to back Kuwait in the Gulf War. In 1992, it was revealed that Nayirah's last name was al-Ṣabaḥ (Arabic: نيره الصباح‎‎) and that she was the daughter of Saud Al-Sabah, the Kuwaiti ambassador to the United States. Furthermore, it was revealed that her testimony was organized as part of the Citizens for a Free Kuwait public relations campaign which was run by an American public relations firm Hill & Knowlton for the Kuwaiti government. Following this, al-Sabah's testimony has come to be regarded as a classic example of modern atrocity propaganda.[1][2]

In her emotional testimony, Nayirah stated that after the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait she had witnessed Iraqi soldiers take babies out of incubators in a Kuwaiti hospital, take the incubators, and leave the babies to die.

Her story was initially corroborated by Amnesty International[3] and testimony from evacuees. Following the liberation of Kuwait, reporters were given access to the country. An ABC report found that "patients, including premature babies, did die, when many of Kuwait's nurses and doctors... fled" but Iraqi troops "almost certainly had not stolen hospital incubators and left hundreds of Kuwaiti babies to die."[4][5] Amnesty International reacted by issuing a correction, with executive director John Healey subsequently accusing the Bush administration of "opportunistic manipulation of the international human rights movement".[6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony

If we are not actually defending a threat to our own country we have no reason to fight.
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2017-10-12 19:47:56 UTC
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Neither did you or your relatives.
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Con man.
DJ Trump got five deferments to stay out of military (Vietnam war).
None of his three grown children went into military.
Neither his father nor his grandfather went into military.
No other Trump, male or female, related to DJ Trump ever went into military.
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2017-10-13 00:39:17 UTC
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Con man.
DJ Trump got five deferments to stay out of military (Vietnam
war). None of his three grown children went into military.
Neither his father nor his grandfather went into military.
No other Trump, male or female, related to DJ Trump ever went
into military.
Trump comes from old money so he doesn't need to join the military.
Why would he need free government food, free government underwear,
free government healthcare, free government shelter,free government
dental care, a free government bed and a free government gun?

Then they give them a free government education because we're not
into socialism.


If you want free government stuff, sign up! But if you can cut it
in the real world without the governmet giving you everything, don't
bother.
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2017-10-12 13:14:14 UTC
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There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s).  None whatsoever.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is *THE* foundation of Christianity.
Sycophant: a compulsive ass-kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.
Those like Obama that feign religion, was never in the military and
actively shows hate for those in it who made his charmed life possible,
and Obama and Democrats who manipulate religion for their own gain....
are the worst.

People that believe are possibly misled, but the people like Obama who
mislead them, are plain evil.
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2017-10-12 13:53:51 UTC
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Con man.
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There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s).  None whatsoever.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is *THE* foundation of Christianity.
Sycophant: a compulsive ass-kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.
Those like Obama that feign religion, was never in the military and
actively shows hate for those in it who made his charmed life possible,
and Obama and Democrats who manipulate religion for their own gain....
are the worst.
People that believe are possibly misled, but the people like Obama who
mislead them, are plain evil.
Did Obama dodge the draft and then
claim to be a "very brave soldier" for
screwing all the women he could?





Trump Said Sleeping Around Was My "Personal Vietnam"
02.16.16

In a 1997 Howard Stern interview, the future
presidential candidate likened sleeping with
multiple women to service in the war he
repeatedly avoided.

"I’ve been so lucky in terms of that whole world.
It is a dangerous world out there. It’s scary,
like Vietnam. Sort of like the Vietnam-era,"
Trump said in a video that resurfaced Tuesday on
Buzzfeed, "It is my personal Vietnam. I feel like
a great and very brave soldier."

http://tinyurl.com/j44dtrl
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2017-10-13 03:45:23 UTC
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Con man.
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There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s).  None whatsoever.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is *THE* foundation of Christianity.
Sycophant: a compulsive ass-kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.
Those like Obama that feign religion, was never in the military and
actively shows hate for those in it who made his charmed life possible,
and Obama and Democrats who manipulate religion for their own gain....
are the worst.
People that believe are possibly misled, but the people like Obama who
mislead them, are plain evil.
Did Obama dodge the draft and then
claim to be a "very brave soldier" for
screwing all the women he could?
Racist little fucks like "BeamMeUpScotty" would answer accusations of
murder for Trump by asking to see Obama's birth certificate and his
university records...

You can't fight racist rage, nor intrinsic stupidity.
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Trump Said Sleeping Around Was My "Personal Vietnam"
02.16.16
In a 1997 Howard Stern interview, the future
presidential candidate likened sleeping with
multiple women to service in the war he
repeatedly avoided.
"I’ve been so lucky in terms of that whole world.
It is a dangerous world out there. It’s scary,
like Vietnam. Sort of like the Vietnam-era,"
Trump said in a video that resurfaced Tuesday on
Buzzfeed, "It is my personal Vietnam. I feel like
a great and very brave soldier."
http://tinyurl.com/j44dtrl
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David Hartung
2017-10-12 14:11:20 UTC
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Has he ever claimed otherwise?
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2017-10-12 15:02:54 UTC
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Has he ever claimed otherwise?
Trump's draft dodging was no different than Clinton's or Limbaugh's.
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2017-10-12 15:04:02 UTC
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Has he ever claimed otherwise?
Trump's draft dodging
I joined after the first gulf war and got out before the second. Is that dodging, or using your brain?
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2017-10-15 00:09:57 UTC
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Con man.
DJ Trump got five deferments to stay out of military (Vietnam war).
None of his three grown children went into military.
Neither his father nor his grandfather went into military.
No other Trump, male or female, related to DJ Trump ever went into military.
Has he ever claimed otherwise?
He's said many times "I have great respect for the military" but also having
dodged by him and his entire family (father,grandfather,DJT,three grown children)
seems to show more disdain, not respect.

Con Artist.
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There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is *THE* foundation of Christianity.
Sycophant: a compulsive ass-kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.
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2017-10-15 00:34:07 UTC
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Con man.
DJ Trump got five deferments to stay out of military (Vietnam war).
None of his three grown children went into military.
Neither his father nor his grandfather went into military.
No other Trump, male or female, related to DJ Trump ever went into military.
Has he ever claimed otherwise?
He's said many times "I have great respect for the military" but also having
dodged by him and his entire family (father,grandfather,DJT,three grown children)
seems to show more disdain, not respect.
Con Artist.
Have you been in the military?
Rudy Canoza
2017-10-15 00:51:43 UTC
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Con man.
DJ Trump got five deferments to stay out of military (Vietnam war).
None of his three grown children went into military.
Neither his father nor his grandfather went into military.
No other Trump, male or female, related to DJ Trump ever went into military.
Has he ever claimed otherwise?
He's said many times "I have great respect for the military" but also having
dodged by him and his entire family (father,grandfather,DJT,three grown children)
seems to show more disdain, not respect.
Con Artist.
Have you been in the military?
Irrelevant to the fact that none of the disgusting Trumps have *ever*
been in despite the asshole Donald lying and saying he has great respect
for it.

If you're curious, I wasn't, but my older brother and my father were.
Being in the military is not any kind of litmus test for how good a
person one is.
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2017-10-15 01:07:22 UTC
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Con man.
DJ Trump got five deferments to stay out of military (Vietnam war).
None of his three grown children went into military.
Neither his father nor his grandfather went into military.
No other Trump, male or female, related to DJ Trump ever went into military.
Has he ever claimed otherwise?
He's said many times "I have great respect for the military" but also having
dodged by him and his entire family (father,grandfather,DJT,three grown children)
seems to show more disdain, not respect.
Con Artist.
Have you been in the military?
Irrelevant to the fact that none of the disgusting Trumps have *ever*
been in despite the asshole Donald lying and saying he has great respect
for it.
I consider it relevant, at least so far as judging his credibility to
dismiss Trump's lack of service.
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If you're curious, I wasn't, but my older brother and my father were.
Being in the military is not any kind of litmus test for how good a
person one is.
Absolutely not! Some of the best people I know have never served, but as
I said above, one who himself did not serve really has no credibility to
criticize others' lack of service.
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Con man.
DJ Trump got five deferments to stay out of military (Vietnam
war). None of his three grown children went into military.
Neither his father nor his grandfather went into military.
No other Trump, male or female, related to DJ Trump ever went into military.
Has he ever claimed otherwise?
He's said many times "I have great respect for the military" but also having
dodged by him and his entire family (father,grandfather,DJT,three grown children)
seems to show more disdain, not respect.
Con Artist.
Have you been in the military?
Irrelevant to the fact that none of the disgusting Trumps have *ever*
been in despite the asshole Donald lying and saying he has great
respect for it.
I consider it relevant, at least so far as judging his credibility to
dismiss Trump's lack of service.
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If you're curious, I wasn't, but my older brother and my father were.
Being in the military is not any kind of litmus test for how good a
person one is.
Absolutely not! Some of the best people I know have never served, but
as I said above, one who himself did not serve really has no
credibility to criticize others' lack of service.
Funny you weren't saying that when "never served
a day in uniform" conservatives were heaping scorn
and hatred at the service of Al Gore and John Kerry
and Max Cleland and now even John McCain.
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2017-10-15 02:16:40 UTC
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Con man.
DJ Trump got five deferments to stay out of military (Vietnam
war). None of his three grown children went into military.
Neither his father nor his grandfather went into military.
No other Trump, male or female, related to DJ Trump ever went into military.
Has he ever claimed otherwise?
He's said many times "I have great respect for the military" but also having
dodged by him and his entire family (father,grandfather,DJT,three grown children)
seems to show more disdain, not respect.
Con Artist.
Have you been in the military?
Irrelevant to the fact that none of the disgusting Trumps have *ever*
been in despite the asshole Donald lying and saying he has great
respect for it.
I consider it relevant, at least so far as judging his credibility to
dismiss Trump's lack of service.
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If you're curious, I wasn't, but my older brother and my father were.
Being in the military is not any kind of litmus test for how good a
person one is.
Absolutely not! Some of the best people I know have never served, but
as I said above, one who himself did not serve really has no
credibility to criticize others' lack of service.
Funny you weren't saying that when "never served
a day in uniform" conservatives were heaping scorn
and hatred at the service of Al Gore and John Kerry
and Max Cleland and now even John McCain.
Funny that you think you know what I said, or didn't say.
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2017-10-15 03:07:33 UTC
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Con man.
DJ Trump got five deferments to stay out of military (Vietnam
war). None of his three grown children went into military.
Neither his father nor his grandfather went into military.
No other Trump, male or female, related to DJ Trump ever went into military.
Has he ever claimed otherwise?
He's said many times "I have great respect for the military" but also having
dodged by him and his entire family (father,grandfather,DJT,three grown children)
seems to show more disdain, not respect.
Con Artist.
Have you been in the military?
Irrelevant to the fact that none of the disgusting Trumps have *ever*
been in despite the asshole Donald lying and saying he has great
respect for it.
I consider it relevant, at least so far as judging his credibility to
dismiss Trump's lack of service.
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If you're curious, I wasn't, but my older brother and my father were.
Being in the military is not any kind of litmus test for how good a
person one is.
Absolutely not! Some of the best people I know have never served, but
as I said above, one who himself did not serve really has no
credibility to criticize others' lack of service.
Funny you weren't saying that when "never served
a day in uniform" conservatives were heaping scorn
and hatred at the service of Al Gore and John Kerry
and Max Cleland and now even John McCain.
Funny that you think you know what I said, or didn't say.
You complain that I follow your posts too
closely and that I don't follow them enough?





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2017-10-15 09:41:54 UTC
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Con man.
DJ Trump got five deferments to stay out of military (Vietnam
war). None of his three grown children went into military.
Neither his father nor his grandfather went into military.
No other Trump, male or female, related to DJ Trump ever went into military.
Has he ever claimed otherwise?
He's said many times "I have great respect for the military" but also having
dodged by him and his entire family (father,grandfather,DJT,three grown children)
seems to show more disdain, not respect.
Con Artist.
Have you been in the military?
Irrelevant to the fact that none of the disgusting Trumps have *ever*
been in despite the asshole Donald lying and saying he has great
respect for it.
I consider it relevant, at least so far as judging his credibility to
dismiss Trump's lack of service.
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If you're curious, I wasn't, but my older brother and my father were.
Being in the military is not any kind of litmus test for how good a
person one is.
Absolutely not! Some of the best people I know have never served, but
as I said above, one who himself did not serve really has no
credibility to criticize others' lack of service.
Funny you weren't saying that when "never served
a day in uniform" conservatives were heaping scorn
and hatred at the service of Al Gore and John Kerry
and Max Cleland and now even John McCain.
People who knew McCain in the Navy say they have evidence that he collaborated with the North Vietnamese by making propaganda broadcasts for them while he was their prisoner.
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Con man.
DJ Trump got five deferments to stay out of military (Vietnam
war). None of his three grown children went into military.
Neither his father nor his grandfather went into military.
No other Trump, male or female, related to DJ Trump ever went
into military.
Has he ever claimed otherwise?
He's said many times "I have great respect for the military" but also having
dodged by him and his entire family
(father,grandfather,DJT,three grown children)
seems to show more disdain, not respect.
Con Artist.
Have you been in the military?
Irrelevant to the fact that none of the disgusting Trumps have
*ever* been in despite the asshole Donald lying and saying he has
great respect for it.
I consider it relevant, at least so far as judging his credibility
to dismiss Trump's lack of service.
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If you're curious, I wasn't, but my older brother and my father
were. Being in the military is not any kind of litmus test for how
good a person one is.
Absolutely not! Some of the best people I know have never served,
but as I said above, one who himself did not serve really has no
credibility to criticize others' lack of service.
Funny you weren't saying that when "never served
a day in uniform" conservatives were heaping scorn
and hatred at the service of Al Gore and John Kerry
and Max Cleland and now even John McCain.
People who knew McCain in the Navy say they have evidence that he
collaborated with the North Vietnamese by making propaganda broadcasts
for them while he was their prisoner.
Show us this evidence.
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Con man.
DJ Trump got five deferments to stay out of military (Vietnam war).
None of his three grown children went into military.
Neither his father nor his grandfather went into military.
No other Trump, male or female, related to DJ Trump ever went into military.
Has he ever claimed otherwise?
He's said many times "I have great respect for the military" but also having
dodged by him and his entire family (father,grandfather,DJT,three grown children)
seems to show more disdain, not respect.
Con Artist.
Have you been in the military?
Irrelevant to the fact that none of the disgusting Trumps have *ever*
been in despite the asshole Donald lying and saying he has great
respect for it.
I consider it relevant, at least so far as judging his credibility to
dismiss Trump's lack of service.
Nope. Trump was an active draft dodger. That is morally blameworthy
/per se/ regardless of the military employment of anyone else. Most
people younger than mid 60s came of age when there was no draft. If
you're suggesting that a person in his 50s has no standing to criticize
Trump's draft dodging because the critic didn't enlist, you're an idiot.
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If you're curious, I wasn't, but my older brother and my father were.
Being in the military is not any kind of litmus test for how good a
person one is.
Absolutely not!
Yeah, sure. That's exactly what you're trying to do here.
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Con man.
DJ Trump got five deferments to stay out of military (Vietnam war).
None of his three grown children went into military.
Neither his father nor his grandfather went into military.
No other Trump, male or female, related to DJ Trump ever went into military.
Has he ever claimed otherwise?
He's said many times "I have great respect for the military" but also having
dodged by him and his entire family (father,grandfather,DJT,three grown children)
seems to show more disdain, not respect.
Con Artist.
Have you been in the military?
Irrelevant to the fact that none of the disgusting Trumps have *ever*
been in despite the asshole Donald lying and saying he has great
respect for it.
I consider it relevant, at least so far as judging his credibility to
dismiss Trump's lack of service.
Nope. Trump was an active draft dodger.
WRONG. He had legal deferments:

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/02/us/politics/donald-trump-draft-record.html
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Con man.
DJ Trump got five deferments to stay out of military (Vietnam war).
None of his three grown children went into military.
Neither his father nor his grandfather went into military.
No other Trump, male or female, related to DJ Trump ever went into military.
Has he ever claimed otherwise?
He's said many times "I have great respect for the military" but also having
dodged by him and his entire family (father,grandfather,DJT,three grown children)
seems to show more disdain, not respect.
Con Artist.
Have you been in the military?
What's your opinion of our CIC's book "The [Con] Art of the Deal"?
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Con man.
DJ Trump got five deferments to stay out of military (Vietnam war).
None of his three grown children went into military.
Neither his father nor his grandfather went into military.
No other Trump, male or female, related to DJ Trump ever went into military.
Has he ever claimed otherwise?
He's said many times "I have great respect for the military" but also having
dodged by him and his entire family (father,grandfather,DJT,three grown children)
seems to show more disdain, not respect.
Con Artist.
Have you been in the military?
What's your opinion of our CIC's book "The [Con] Art of the Deal"?
Hmm.
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Con man.
DJ Trump got five deferments to stay out of military (Vietnam war).
None of his three grown children went into military.
Neither his father nor his grandfather went into military.
No other Trump, male or female, related to DJ Trump ever went into military.
Has he ever claimed otherwise?
He's said many times "I have great respect for the military" but also having
dodged by him and his entire family (father,grandfather,DJT,three grown children)
seems to show more disdain, not respect.
Con Artist.
Have you been in the military?
Obama had to fake a draft registration after he was elected.
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Con man.
DJ Trump got five deferments to stay out of military (Vietnam war).
None of his three grown children went into military.
Neither his father nor his grandfather went into military.
No other Trump, male or female, related to DJ Trump ever went into military.
Has he ever claimed otherwise?
He's said many times "I have great respect for the military" but also having
dodged by him and his entire family (father,grandfather,DJT,three grown children)
seems to show more disdain, not respect.
Con Artist.
Have you been in the military?
Obama had to fake a draft registration after he was elected.
No proof of that.
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Obama had to fake a draft registration after he was elected.
No proof of that.
Doesn't really matter. Draft registration is just a failed bluff and ongoing
demonstration of political cowardice.

Registration was restarted in an attempt to scare the USSR that in a war the US
could conscript millions of soldiers to fight in Europe and win without nuclear
weapons.

In a NATO/USSR or NATO/Russia war nuclear weapons are inevitable. Both sides
make it known they will use nuclear weapon to prevent defeat. That provides an
incentive to use preemptive nuclear weapons when you're about to win.

The war would be over before any conscripts would arrive in Europe, before they
could be trained, before they could even be conscripted.

It's been a toothless threat since then. Conscripts only serve three years.
Given the technology in modern weapons, that means they would spend most of
their service being trained for a few months of actual service. Also the DoD
doesn't want them. Volunteers want to be there and easier to train and control.
The DoD has been able to find enough to volunteer to enter and remain no matter
what for the last 45 years.

The only consequence of ending draft registration is politicians might be called
wimps and commies.
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Con man.
DJ Trump got five deferments to stay out of military (Vietnam war).
None of his three grown children went into military.
Neither his father nor his grandfather went into military.
No other Trump, male or female, related to DJ Trump ever went into military.
Has he ever claimed otherwise?
He's said many times "I have great respect for the military" but also having
dodged by him and his entire family (father,grandfather,DJT,three grown children)
seems to show more disdain, not respect.
Con Artist.
Have you been in the military?
Obama had to fake a draft registration after he was elected.
No proof of that.
NO proof Weinstein raped any women either but he's NOT very popular is he?
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Con man.
DJ Trump got five deferments to stay out of military (Vietnam war).
None of his three grown children went into military.
Neither his father nor his grandfather went into military.
No other Trump, male or female, related to DJ Trump ever went into military.
Has he ever claimed otherwise?
He's said many times "I have great respect for the military" but also having
dodged by him and his entire family (father,grandfather,DJT,three grown children)
seems to show more disdain, not respect.
Con Artist.
Have you been in the military?
Obama had to fake a draft registration after he was elected.
No proof of that.
NO proof Weinstein raped any women either but he's NOT very popular is he?
There's enough testimonies from his victims. Proof enough for me.

That he hasn't been *convicted* in a court of law is another matter.
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Patriots: No Trump has ever been in U.S. military
Since when patriotism is synonymous with US Military?
I don't think it is, however with Trump repeating "I have great respect for the
military" it seems odd that four generations of Trumps (father,grandfather,DJT,
three grown children) have never gone into military and seems like disdain, not respect.

I doubt that Ivanka's husband, Jarad, has been in military (and of course never for FLOTUS).

He talks like a Con Artist, an AMAZING Con Artist.
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Patriots: No Trump has ever been in U.S. military
Since when patriotism is synonymous with US Military?
I don't think it is,
Bowe Bergdahl sort of made that evident....

Then there was the transgender Chelsea Manning.
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Con man.
Neither has any Obama or Clinton.
So do you have some kind of point to make loser?
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Con man.
Neither has any Obama or Clinton.
So you agree: Trump is a draft dodger right along with Clinton and
Limbaugh.
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Con man.
Neither has any Obama or Clinton.
So do you have some kind of point to make loser?
Yeah - the Democrats have suddenly switched to being a
Militaristic Party - that the only ones who should be allowed to be
President are those with a military career. Maybe it is a belated
recognition that Obama and Clinton were terrible Presidents.
But it is still a bad idea. I mean, President Carter was ex-Navy,
and he didn't turn out so good, either. And John "Magic Hat and
Helmet" Kerry - the less said about him the better.
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Con man.
Neither has any Obama or Clinton.
So do you have some kind of point to make loser?
Yeah - the Democrats have suddenly switched to being a
Militaristic Party - that the only ones who should be allowed to be
President are those with a military career. Maybe it is a belated
recognition that Obama and Clinton were terrible Presidents.
But it is still a bad idea. I mean, President Carter was ex-Navy,
and he didn't turn out so good, either. And John "Magic Hat and
Helmet" Kerry - the less said about him the better.
What did Reagan do in the war?

I know what John McCain did. And I know Drumpf thinks that makes him a loser.
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Con man.
Neither has any Obama or Clinton.
So do you have some kind of point to make loser?
Yeah - the Democrats have suddenly switched to being a
Militaristic Party - that the only ones who should be allowed to be
President are those with a military career. Maybe it is a belated
recognition that Obama and Clinton were terrible Presidents.
But it is still a bad idea. I mean, President Carter was ex-Navy,
and he didn't turn out so good, either. And John "Magic Hat and
Helmet" Kerry - the less said about him the better.
What did Reagan do in the war?
[quote]


Ronald Reagan “Performed Well” in World War II

By Robert F. Dorr - February 5, 2011


Ronald Reagan’s 100th birthday on Feb. 6 is a good time to be reminded of Reagan’s World War II service in the U.S. Army Air Forces (AAF).

Reagan’s time in uniform was not as dramatic as some of his film appearances or his tenure as president, but as one U.S. airman described it, “They gave him duties that fit with his experience and he performed them well.”

Because the AAF evolved into the U.S. Air Force immediately after the war, today Reagan’s service is considered a part of Air Force history.

The National Museum of the Air Force at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio, has a display of an overcoat, lapel insignia, shoulder patch, and identity card used by Reagan during his military duties from 1942 to 1945. Reagan worked in the film industry while in uniform, appearing in patriotic films like Jap Zero and For God and Country, both produced in 1943. He left the service at war’s end as a captain.

Born and raised in Illinois and an alumnus of Eureka College with a bachelor of arts degree in economics-sociology, Reagan became a private in a cavalry
of the Army Reserve in 1937. He quickly earned a commission as a second
lieutenant in the Reserve. He was a radio announcer and actor living in
Los Angeles on the eve of World War II.

Soon after he married Jane Wyman in 1942, Reservist Reagan received the
expected call to active duty. Due to his nearsightedness, he was classified
for limited service, which meant he couldn’t go overseas. He served at the
San Francisco port of embarkation at Fort Mason, Calif., as a liaison
officer until transferring from the cavalry to the AAF on May 15, 1942.

Reagan tried to get a waiver that would permit him to serve in a war zone
but the Army refused.

[/quote]

http://www.defensemedianetwork.com/stories/ronald-reagan-performed-well-in-world-war-ii/

somebody who was in the Reserves 5 years before Pearl Harbor, and
before the draft was instituted, was hardly a "draft dodger."

BTW, I had 5 chances to vote for the guy: `76 primary,
primary and general election in 1980 & 1984. I always voted
for someone else.
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I know what John McCain did. And I know Drumpf thinks
that makes him a loser.
McCain is remarkably like Trump's boys: went into the family
business, and wasn't as successful as his Dad or Grandad.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_S._McCain_Sr. [Admiral]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_S._McCain_Jr. [Admiral]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCain [the Senator]

Quite a few people think McCain Jr was braver than he was
competent as a naval officer.

Kevin R

[Nobody was drafted the year I turned 18]
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Con man.
Neither has any Obama or Clinton.
So do you have some kind of point to make loser?
Yeah - the Democrats have suddenly switched to being a
Militaristic Party - that the only ones who should be allowed to be
President are those with a military career. Maybe it is a belated
recognition that Obama and Clinton were terrible Presidents.
But it is still a bad idea. I mean, President Carter was ex-Navy,
and he didn't turn out so good, either. And John "Magic Hat and
Helmet" Kerry - the less said about him the better.
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Con man.
Neither has any Obama or Clinton.
So do you have some kind of point to make loser?
Yeah - the Democrats have suddenly switched to being a
Militaristic Party - that the only ones who should be allowed to be
President are those with a military career. Maybe it is a belated
recognition that Obama and Clinton were terrible Presidents.
But it is still a bad idea. I mean, President Carter was ex-Navy,
and he didn't turn out so good, either. And John "Magic Hat and
Helmet" Kerry - the less said about him the better.
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Con man.
Neither has any Obama or Clinton.
So do you have some kind of point to make loser?
Yeah - the Democrats have suddenly switched to being a
Militaristic Party - that the only ones who should be allowed to be
President are those with a military career. Maybe it is a belated
recognition that Obama and Clinton were terrible Presidents.
But it is still a bad idea. I mean, President Carter was ex-Navy,
and he didn't turn out so good, either. And John "Magic Hat and
Helmet" Kerry - the less said about him the better.
Clinton presided over the longest period of sustained economic growth
since the 1950s and was the only president in the last 50 years to
leave office with a surplus. Obama saved the auto industry, presided
over the longest period of sustained job growth in history and reduced
Dubya's deficit by two thirds. You, sir, are a moron.







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Con man.
Neither has any Obama or Clinton.
So do you have some kind of point to make loser?
Yeah - the Democrats have suddenly switched to being a
Militaristic Party - that the only ones who should be allowed to be
President are those with a military career. Maybe it is a belated
recognition that Obama and Clinton were terrible Presidents.
But it is still a bad idea. I mean, President Carter was ex-Navy,
and he didn't turn out so good, either. And John "Magic Hat and
Helmet" Kerry - the less said about him the better.
Clinton presided over the longest period of sustained economic growth
since the 1950s
....because of the actions of the federal reserve pumping a
ton of money into the economy via easy credit which then paved the way
for the dot-com bust. This is basic Austrian Business Cycle Theory.
Post by John Baker
and was the only president in the last 50 years to
leave office with a surplus.
Ummm......no. There was no surplus. It was accounting fraud
worse than Enron and Worldcom COMBINED.


https://socialistaction.org/2000/09/01/gore-bush-the-budget-surplus-and-other-misconceptions/

Go on and tell me that "Socialist Action" is a right-wing
site.Tell me that it's dedicated to hating democrats. Tell me that
it's a white-supremacist site. Go on. Do it. I fucking DARE you.
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Obama saved the auto industry
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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, presided
over the longest period of sustained job growth in history
No. Unemployment rose considerably such that reporting rules
were changed.
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and reduced
Dubya's deficit by two thirds.
Nope.


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Con man.
Neither has any Obama or Clinton.
So do you have some kind of point to make loser?
Yeah - the Democrats have suddenly switched to being a
Militaristic Party - that the only ones who should be allowed to be
President are those with a military career. Maybe it is a belated
recognition that Obama and Clinton were terrible Presidents.
But it is still a bad idea. I mean, President Carter was ex-Navy,
and he didn't turn out so good, either. And John "Magic Hat and
Helmet" Kerry - the less said about him the better.
Clinton presided over the longest period of sustained economic growth
since the 1950s and was the only president in the last 50 years to
leave office with a surplus.
Read the Constitution, dimwit. The President has no control over the economy. He can sign tax bills and financial benefit bills presented to him by Congress, but that's all he can do. He cannot make laws. Even his executive orders are subject to review by the federal courts.

Your buddy Obama issued an executive order on the selection of members for the National Labor Relations board. It was declared "unconstitutional" by the DC Circuit Court.
This asshole is supposed to be a Harvard educated lawyer????? What a fucking joke.
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Con man.
No 'ratbama has ever come form the USofA.

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Con man.
No 'ratbama has ever come form the USofA.
Bush 43 deserted and Trump is a draft dodger just like Clinton.
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Con man.
No 'ratbama has ever come form the USofA.
Bush 43 deserted
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/211985/facts-about-bush-and-national-guard-byron-york

[...]
The records indicate that, despite his move to Alabama, Bush met his
obligation to the Guard in the 1972-73 year. At that time, Guardsmen
were awarded points based on the days they reported for duty each year.
They were given 15 points just for being in the Guard, and were then
required to accumulate a total of 50 points to satisfy the annual
requirement. In his first four years of service, Bush piled up lots of
points; he earned 253 points in his first year, 340 in his second, 137
in his third, and 112 in his fourth. For the year from May 1972 to May
1973, records show Bush earned 56 points, a much smaller total, but more
than the minimum requirement (his service was measured on a May-to-May
basis because he first joined the Guard in that month in 1968).

Bush then racked up another 56 points in June and July of 1973, which
met the minimum requirement for the 1973-74 year, which was Bush’s last
year of service. Together, the record “clearly shows that First
Lieutenant George W. Bush has satisfactory years for both ‘72-’73 and
‘73-’74, which proves that he completed his military obligation in a
satisfactory manner,” says retired Lt. Col. Albert Lloyd, a Guard
personnel officer who reviewed the records at the request of the White
House.
[...]

Bush served honorably, deal with it.

Please define the term "draft dodger".
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Con man.
No 'ratbama has ever come form the USofA.
Bush 43 deserted
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/211985/facts-about-bush-and-national-guard-byron-york
[...]
The records indicate that, despite his move to Alabama, Bush met his
obligation to the Guard in the 1972-73 year.
The records do *not* show that.
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Con man.
No 'ratbama has ever come form the USofA.
Bush 43 deserted
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/211985/facts-about-bush-and-national-guard-byron-york
[...]
The records indicate that, despite his move to Alabama, Bush met his
obligation to the Guard in the 1972-73 year.
The records do *not* show that.
The link above says differently, you have better information trot it out.
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Con man.
No 'ratbama has ever come form the USofA.
Bush 43 deserted
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/211985/facts-about-bush-and-national-guard-byron-york
[...]
The records indicate that, despite his move to Alabama, Bush met his
obligation to the Guard in the 1972-73 year.
The records do *not* show that.
The link above says differently
The link above is partisan bullshit.
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Con man.
No 'ratbama has ever come form the USofA.
Bush 43 deserted
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/211985/facts-about-bush-and-national-guard-byron-york
[...]
The records indicate that, despite his move to Alabama, Bush met his
obligation to the Guard in the 1972-73 year.
The records do *not* show that.
The link above says differently
The link above is partisan bullshit.
Prove it.
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Con man.
No 'ratbama has ever come form the USofA.
Bush 43 deserted
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/211985/facts-about-bush-and-national-guard-byron-york
[...]
The records indicate that, despite his move to Alabama, Bush met
his obligation to the Guard in the 1972-73 year.
The records do *not* show that.
The link above says differently
The link above is partisan bullshit.
Prove it.
Done.
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Con man.
No 'ratbama has ever come form the USofA.
Bush 43 deserted
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/211985/facts-about-bush-and-national-guard-byron-york
[...]
The records indicate that, despite his move to Alabama, Bush met
his obligation to the Guard in the 1972-73 year.
The records do *not* show that.
The link above says differently
The link above is partisan bullshit.
Prove it.
Done.
Not done. In the end,unless you can prove that Bush did not earn the
minimum number of points each year, you have nothing.
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Con man.
No 'ratbama has ever come form the USofA.
Bush 43 deserted
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/211985/facts-about-bush-and-national-guard-byron-york
[...]
The records indicate that, despite his move to Alabama, Bush met
his obligation to the Guard in the 1972-73 year.
The records do *not* show that.
The link above says differently
The link above is partisan bullshit.
Prove it.
Done.
Not done.
Done.
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Con man.
No 'ratbama has ever come form the USofA.
Bush 43 deserted
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/211985/facts-about-bush-and-national-guard-byron-york
[...]
The records indicate that, despite his move to Alabama, Bush met
his obligation to the Guard in the 1972-73 year.
The records do *not* show that.
The link above says differently
The link above is partisan bullshit.
Prove it.
Done.
Not done.
Done. But additionally:

In September 2004, Lawrence Korb, an Assistant Secretary of Defense
under President Ronald Reagan, after reviewing the payroll records
for Bush's last two years of service, concluded that they indicated
that Bush did not fulfill his obligations and could have been ordered
to active duty as a result.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush_military_service_controversy#Six-year_service_obligation
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Con man.
No 'ratbama has ever come form the USofA.
Bush 43 deserted
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/211985/facts-about-bush-and-national-guard-byron-york
[...]
The records indicate that, despite his move to Alabama, Bush met
his obligation to the Guard in the 1972-73 year.
The records do *not* show that.
The link above says differently
The link above is partisan bullshit.
Prove it.
Done.
Not done.
   In September 2004, Lawrence Korb, an Assistant Secretary of Defense
   under President Ronald Reagan, after reviewing the payroll records
   for Bush's last two years of service, concluded that they indicated
   that Bush did not fulfill his obligations and could have been ordered
   to active duty as a result.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush_military_service_controversy#Six-year_service_obligation
The footnote links to a "dead link. Sorry, you lose again.

Give it up Rudy, this discussion has been going on for years, and there
is still no credible evidence to support the claim that Bush "deserted".
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Con man.
No 'ratbama has ever come form the USofA.
Bush 43 deserted
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/211985/facts-about-bush-and-national-guard-byron-york
[...]
The records indicate that, despite his move to Alabama, Bush
met his obligation to the Guard in the 1972-73 year.
The records do *not* show that.
The link above says differently
The link above is partisan bullshit.
Prove it.
Done.
Not done.
    In September 2004, Lawrence Korb, an Assistant Secretary of Defense
    under President Ronald Reagan, after reviewing the payroll records
    for Bush's last two years of service, concluded that they indicated
    that Bush did not fulfill his obligations and could have been ordered
    to active duty as a result.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush_military_service_controversy#Six-year_service_obligation
The footnote links to a "dead link. Sorry, you lose again.
No it doesn't, you fucking liar. It links to note 43 at the bottom of
the page:

43 Roane, Kit R. "Bush's military service in question – again
(9/8/04)". USNews.com. Retrieved May 24, 2010.


Give it up, Pastor Scheisskopf, you phony "patriot": Bush deserted.
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Con man.
No 'ratbama has ever come form the USofA.
Bush 43 deserted
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/211985/facts-about-bush-and-national-guard-byron-york
[...]
The records indicate that, despite his move to Alabama, Bush
met his obligation to the Guard in the 1972-73 year.
The records do *not* show that.
The link above says differently
The link above is partisan bullshit.
Prove it.
Done.
Not done.
    In September 2004, Lawrence Korb, an Assistant Secretary of Defense
    under President Ronald Reagan, after reviewing the payroll records
    for Bush's last two years of service, concluded that they indicated
    that Bush did not fulfill his obligations and could have been ordered
    to active duty as a result.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush_military_service_controversy#Six-year_service_obligation
The footnote links to a "dead link. Sorry, you lose again.
No it doesn't, you fucking liar.  It links to note 43 at the bottom of
   43  Roane, Kit R. "Bush's military service in question – again
       (9/8/04)". USNews.com. Retrieved May 24, 2010.
Click on the link. If it works for you, you are better off than I.
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Con man.
No 'ratbama has ever come form the USofA.
Bush 43 deserted
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/211985/facts-about-bush-and-national-guard-byron-york
[...]
The records indicate that, despite his move to Alabama, Bush
met his obligation to the Guard in the 1972-73 year.
The records do *not* show that.
The link above says differently
The link above is partisan bullshit.
Prove it.
Done.
Not done.
    In September 2004, Lawrence Korb, an Assistant Secretary of Defense
    under President Ronald Reagan, after reviewing the payroll records
    for Bush's last two years of service, concluded that they indicated
    that Bush did not fulfill his obligations and could have been ordered
    to active duty as a result.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush_military_service_controversy#Six-year_service_obligation
The footnote links to a "dead link. Sorry, you lose again.
No it doesn't, you fucking liar.  It links to note 43 at the bottom of
   43  Roane, Kit R. "Bush's military service in question – again
       (9/8/04)". USNews.com. Retrieved May 24, 2010.
Click on the link. If it works for you, you are better off than I.
"Not Found

The requested URL /usnews/news/articles/roane040908.htm was not found
on this server."
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Con man.
No 'ratbama has ever come form the USofA.
Bush 43 deserted
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/211985/facts-about-bush-and-national-guard-byron-york
[...]
The records indicate that, despite his move to Alabama, Bush
met his obligation to the Guard in the 1972-73 year.
The records do *not* show that.
The link above says differently
The link above is partisan bullshit.
Prove it.
Done.
Not done.
    In September 2004, Lawrence Korb, an Assistant Secretary of Defense
    under President Ronald Reagan, after reviewing the payroll records
    for Bush's last two years of service, concluded that they indicated
    that Bush did not fulfill his obligations and could have been ordered
    to active duty as a result.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush_military_service_controversy#Six-year_service_obligation
The footnote links to a "dead link. Sorry, you lose again.
No it doesn't, you fucking liar.  It links to note 43 at the bottom of
    43  Roane, Kit R. "Bush's military service in question – again
        (9/8/04)". USNews.com. Retrieved May 24, 2010.
Click on the link.
I did. It works. You're incompetent.
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Click on the link. If it works for you, you are better off than I.
Thank goodness Bush was there to save us from a real life Viva Max. Gore and
Kerry wimped out by fleeing to Vietnam. And Drumpf tells us that McCain was a
loser because he got stuck in Vietnam. They're as bad as that draft dodger Obama.
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Click on the link. If it works for you, you are better off than I.
Thank goodness Bush was there to save us from a real life Viva Max. Gore and
Kerry wimped out by fleeing to Vietnam. And Drumpf tells us that McCain was a
loser because he got stuck in Vietnam. They're as bad as that draft dodger Obama.
Well almost, Obama hates the military and America and capitalism.....
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Click on the link. If it works for you, you are better off than I.
Thank goodness Bush was there to save us from a real life Viva Max. Gore and
Kerry wimped out by fleeing to Vietnam. And Drumpf tells us that McCain was a
loser because he got stuck in Vietnam. They're as bad as that draft dodger Obama.
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Con man.
No 'ratbama has ever come form the USofA.
Bush 43 deserted
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/211985/facts-about-bush-and-national-guard-byron-york
[...]
The records indicate that, despite his move to Alabama, Bush
met his obligation to the Guard in the 1972-73 year.
The records do *not* show that.
The link above says differently
The link above is partisan bullshit.
Prove it.
Done.
Not done.
    In September 2004, Lawrence Korb, an Assistant Secretary of Defense
    under President Ronald Reagan, after reviewing the payroll records
    for Bush's last two years of service, concluded that they indicated
    that Bush did not fulfill his obligations and could have been ordered
    to active duty as a result.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush_military_service_controversy#Six-year_service_obligation
The footnote links to a "dead link. Sorry, you lose again.
No it doesn't, you fucking liar.  It links to note 43 at the bottom of
   43  Roane, Kit R. "Bush's military service in question – again
       (9/8/04)". USNews.com. Retrieved May 24, 2010.
Click on the link. If it works for you, you are better off than I.
"The "Killian documents" were initially claimed by CBS to have come
from the "personal files" of the late Lt. Col. Jerry B. Killian,
Bush's squadron commander during Bush's Air National Guard
service.[50] They describe preferential treatment during Bush's
service, including pressure on Killian to "sugar coat" an annual
officer rating report for the then 1st Lt. Bush. CBS aired the story
on September 8, 2004, amid more releases of Bush's official records by
the Department of Defense, including one just the day before as the
result of a FOIA lawsuit by the Associated Press.[51]

The Killian documents are widely considered to be fake. Starting with
a Free Republic web posting by Harry MacDougald, a conservative
Republican lawyer posting under the blogger name, "Buckhead."
MacDougald and multiple fellow bloggers claimed that the formatting
shown in the documents used proportional fonts that did not come into
common use until the mid-to-late 1990s and alleged that the documents
were therefore likely forgeries. [52][53] While the widely publicized
rationale of "Buckhead" was technically inaccurate, both related and
unrelated serious challenges to the authenticity of the documents
nonetheless exist. For instance, it is unlikely that the typewriters
available to Killian's secretary could have produced such a document,
and the documents contained U.S. Army, rather than U.S. Airforce,
jargon.[54][55][56][57][58]

The forgery allegations subsequently came to the attention of the
mainstream media, especially after experts also questioned the
documents' authenticity and lack of a chain of custody.[59][60][61]
The original documents have never been submitted for authentication.
The man who delivered the copies, Lt. Col. Bill Burkett, a former
officer in the Texas Army National Guard and outspoken Bush critic,
claimed that he burned the originals. Burkett admitted lying to CBS
and USA Today about where he had obtained the papers and eventually
expressed doubts of his own about their authenticity.[62]"

But then..Democrats have this habit of submitting fraudulant documents

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=fradulant+obama

It goes back many decades....a century or more.


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Con man.
No 'ratbama has ever come form the USofA.
Bush 43 deserted
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/211985/facts-about-bush-and-national-guard-byron-york
[...]
The records indicate that, despite his move to Alabama, Bush
met his obligation to the Guard in the 1972-73 year.
The records do *not* show that.
The link above says differently
The link above is partisan bullshit.
Prove it.
Done.
Not done.
    In September 2004, Lawrence Korb, an Assistant Secretary of Defense
    under President Ronald Reagan, after reviewing the payroll records
    for Bush's last two years of service, concluded that they indicated
    that Bush did not fulfill his obligations and could have been ordered
    to active duty as a result.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush_military_service_controversy#Six-year_service_obligation
The footnote links to a "dead link. Sorry, you lose again.
No it doesn't, you fucking liar.  It links to note 43 at the bottom of
   43  Roane, Kit R. "Bush's military service in question – again
       (9/8/04)". USNews.com. Retrieved May 24, 2010.
Click on the link. If it works for you, you are better off than I.
"The "Killian documents" were initially claimed by CBS to have come
from the "personal files" of the late Lt. Col. Jerry B. Killian,
Bush's squadron commander during Bush's Air National Guard
service.[50] They describe preferential treatment during Bush's
service, including pressure on Killian to "sugar coat" an annual
officer rating report for the then 1st Lt. Bush. CBS aired the story
on September 8, 2004, amid more releases of Bush's official records by
the Department of Defense, including one just the day before as the
result of a FOIA lawsuit by the Associated Press.[51]
The Killian documents are widely considered to be fake. Starting with
a Free Republic web posting by Harry MacDougald, a conservative
Republican lawyer posting under the blogger name, "Buckhead."
MacDougald and multiple fellow bloggers claimed that the formatting
shown in the documents used proportional fonts that did not come into
common use until the mid-to-late 1990s and alleged that the documents
were therefore likely forgeries. [52][53] While the widely publicized
rationale of "Buckhead" was technically inaccurate, both related and
unrelated serious challenges to the authenticity of the documents
nonetheless exist. For instance, it is unlikely that the typewriters
available to Killian's secretary could have produced such a document,
and the documents contained U.S. Army, rather than U.S. Airforce,
jargon.[54][55][56][57][58]
The forgery allegations subsequently came to the attention of the
mainstream media, especially after experts also questioned the
documents' authenticity and lack of a chain of custody.[59][60][61]
The original documents have never been submitted for authentication.
The man who delivered the copies, Lt. Col. Bill Burkett, a former
officer in the Texas Army National Guard and outspoken Bush critic,
claimed that he burned the originals. Burkett admitted lying to CBS
and USA Today about where he had obtained the papers and eventually
expressed doubts of his own about their authenticity.[62]"
But then..Democrats have this habit of submitting fraudulant documents
Democrats criticize Richard Nixon for lying to the American people about the Vietnam War, yet there is no doubt LBJ did the same thing. It was Nixon who got us OUT of Vietnam and LBJ who got us massively in deeper .
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Con man.
No 'ratbama has ever come form the USofA.
Bush 43 deserted
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/211985/facts-about-bush-and-national-guard-byron-york
[...]
The records indicate that, despite his move to Alabama, Bush
met his obligation to the Guard in the 1972-73 year.
The records do *not* show that.
The link above says differently
The link above is partisan bullshit.
Prove it.
Done.
Not done.
    In September 2004, Lawrence Korb, an Assistant Secretary of Defense
    under President Ronald Reagan, after reviewing the payroll records
    for Bush's last two years of service, concluded that they indicated
    that Bush did not fulfill his obligations and could have been ordered
    to active duty as a result.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush_military_service_controversy#Six-year_service_obligation
The footnote links to a "dead link. Sorry, you lose again.
No it doesn't, you fucking liar.  It links to note 43 at the bottom of
   43  Roane, Kit R. "Bush's military service in question – again
       (9/8/04)". USNews.com. Retrieved May 24, 2010.
Click on the link. If it works for you, you are better off than I.
"The "Killian documents"
Are authentic.
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Con man.
No 'ratbama has ever come form the USofA.
Bush 43 deserted
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/211985/facts-about-bush-and-national-guard-byron-york
[...]
The records indicate that, despite his move to Alabama, Bush
met his obligation to the Guard in the 1972-73 year.
The records do *not* show that.
The link above says differently
The link above is partisan bullshit.
Prove it.
Done.
Not done.
In September 2004, Lawrence Korb, an Assistant Secretary of Defense
under President Ronald Reagan, after reviewing the payroll records
for Bush's last two years of service, concluded that they indicated
that Bush did not fulfill his obligations and could have been ordered
to active duty as a result.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush_military_service_controversy#Six-year_service_obligation
The footnote links to a "dead link. Sorry, you lose again.
No it doesn't, you fucking liar. It links to note 43 at the bottom of
43 Roane, Kit R. "Bush's military service in question – again
(9/8/04)". USNews.com. Retrieved May 24, 2010.
Click on the link. If it works for you, you are better off than I.
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"The "Killian documents"
Are authentic.
Yep.
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Con man.
No 'ratbama has ever come form the USofA.
Bush 43 deserted
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/211985/facts-about-bush-and-national-guard-byron-york
[...]
The records indicate that, despite his move to Alabama, Bush
met his obligation to the Guard in the 1972-73 year.
The records do *not* show that.
The link above says differently
The link above is partisan bullshit.
Prove it.
Done.
Not done.
In September 2004, Lawrence Korb, an Assistant Secretary of Defense
under President Ronald Reagan, after reviewing the payroll records
for Bush's last two years of service, concluded that they indicated
that Bush did not fulfill his obligations and could have been ordered
to active duty as a result.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush_military_service_controversy#Six-year_service_obligation
The footnote links to a "dead link. Sorry, you lose again.
No it doesn't, you fucking liar. It links to note 43 at the bottom of
43 Roane, Kit R. "Bush's military service in question – again
(9/8/04)". USNews.com. Retrieved May 24, 2010.
Click on the link. If it works for you, you are better off than I.
available to Killian's secretary...
The secretary said on live "60 Minutes" that the content of the documents
was accurate; no one has ever shown otherwise. i.e. GWBush was often AWOL and,
in general, a screwup in the lackadaisical National Guard (in the NG solely to
escape Vietnam, as was common then).
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There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is *THE* foundation of Christianity.
Sycophant: a compulsive ass-kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.
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Con man.
No 'ratbama has ever come form the USofA.
Bush 43 deserted
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/211985/facts-about-bush-a
nd-national-guard-byron-york
[...]
The records indicate that, despite his move to Alabama, Bush
met his obligation to the Guard in the 1972-73 year.
The records do *not* show that.
The link above says differently
The link above is partisan bullshit.
Prove it.
Done.
Not done.
   In September 2004, Lawrence Korb, an Assistant Secretary of
Defense    under President Ronald Reagan, after reviewing the
payroll records    for Bush's last two years of service, concluded
that they indicated    that Bush did not fulfill his obligations
and could have been ordered    to active duty as a result.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush_military_service_controve
rsy#Six-year_service_obligation
The footnote links to a "dead link. Sorry, you lose again.
Give it up Rudy, this discussion has been going on for years, and
there is still no credible evidence to support the claim that Bush
"deserted".
If only Bush's Guard records hadn't been
"accidentally" destroyed just as the press
started asking for them.

What a coincidence, you know?



Bush military records destroyed
BBC News
July 10 2004

Documents that could have decided a dispute over President
George W Bush's days in the military 30 years ago have been
destroyed, the Pentagon says. Microfilm containing the pertinent
payroll records for the Texas-based Air National Guard had been
damaged and could not be salvaged, it said.

Democrats have accused the president of ducking the draft call
to Vietnam in favour of less dangerous duties.

The destroyed files included President Bush's pay records for
two three-month periods in 1969 and 1972, a Department of Defence
statement said. "Searches for back-up paper copies of the missing
records were unsuccessful," it added.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3880141.stm
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The records indicate that, despite his move to Alabama, Bush met his
obligation to the Guard in the 1972-73 year.
The records do *not* show that.
Acc to ex-CBS newsman Bernard Goldberg, G W Bush volunteered to
go to Viet Nam but was turned down.

https://bernardgoldberg.com/a-lost-fact-in-the-rathergate-mess-part-1/

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Con man.
No 'ratbama has ever come form the USofA.
Bush 43 deserted and Trump is a draft dodger just like Clinton.
Of course he is, and just like Duke too.
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I eat shit.
We know.
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Con man.
No 'ratbama has ever come form the USofA.
Bush 43 deserted and Trump is a draft dodger just like Clinton.
Nope, flew F105's (?) in the National Guard.

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Con man.
No 'ratbama has ever come form the USofA.
Bush 43 deserted and Trump is a draft dodger just like Clinton.
Nope, flew F105's (?) in the National Guard.
F 102s
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Con man.
No 'ratbama has ever come form the USofA.
Bush 43 deserted and Trump is a draft dodger just like Clinton.
Nope, flew F105's (?) in the National Guard.
F 102s
I accept that correction.

the dukester, American-American


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Con man.
No 'ratbama has ever come form the USofA.
Bush 43 deserted and Trump is a draft dodger just like Clinton.
Nope, flew F105's (?) in the National Guard.
F 102s
I accept that correction.
You accept that you're a stupid fat prick and shitworm, Douche.
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the doucher, smug fat prick and congenital liar
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Con man.
No 'ratbama has ever come form the USofA.
Bush 43 deserted and Trump is a draft dodger just like Clinton.
Nope, flew F105's (?) in the National Guard.
F 102s
I accept that correction.
You accept that you're a stupid fat prick and shitworm, Douche.
So much for any "class" from you.
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Con man.
No 'ratbama has ever come form the USofA.
Bush 43 deserted and Trump is a draft dodger just like Clinton.
Nope, flew F105's (?) in the National Guard.
F 102s
I accept that correction.
You accept that you're a stupid fat prick and shitworm, Douche.
So much for any "class" from you.
<yawn>
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No 'ratbama has ever come form the USofA.
Bush 43 deserted and Trump is a draft dodger just like Clinton.
Nope, flew F105's (?)
F 102, idiot.
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in the National Guard.
Until he deserted.
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the doucher, smug fat prick and congenital liar
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Ted, can you help me find the post in which patsie wrote that? I know
I've seen it, but I can't remember when.
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Con man.
No 'ratbama has ever come form the USofA.
Bush 43 deserted and Trump is a draft dodger just like Clinton.
Nope, flew F105's (?)
F 102, idiot.
Well, I did put a "?" behind F105.
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in the National Guard.
Until he deserted.
He put in ever bit of his obligation just as his commanding officer stated. You
should read more.

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Con man.
No 'ratbama has ever come form the USofA.
Bush 43 deserted and Trump is a draft dodger just like Clinton.
Nope, flew F105's (?)
F 102, idiot.
Well, I did put a "?" behind F105.
You were just wrong, that's all.
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in the National Guard.
Until he deserted.
He put in ever bit of his obligation
Nope. He fled from the last year of it.
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Con man.
No 'ratbama has ever come form the USofA.
Bush 43 deserted and Trump is a draft dodger just like Clinton.
Nope, flew F105's (?)
F 102, idiot.
Well, I did put a "?" behind F105.
You were just wrong, that's all.
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in the National Guard.
Until he deserted.
He put in ever bit of his obligation
Nope.  He fled from the last year of it.
And yet he earned enough points every year he was in for each year to
count as a good year.
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Con man.
No 'ratbama has ever come form the USofA.
Bush 43 deserted and Trump is a draft dodger just like Clinton.
Nope, flew F105's (?)
F 102, idiot.
Well, I did put a "?" behind F105.
You were just wrong, that's all.
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in the National Guard.
Until he deserted.
He put in ever bit of his obligation
Nope.  He fled from the last year of it.
And yet he earned enough points
He chiseled and deserted.
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Con man.
No 'ratbama has ever come form the USofA.
Bush 43 deserted and Trump is a draft dodger just like Clinton.
Nope, flew F105's (?)
F 102, idiot.
Well, I did put a "?" behind F105.
Rudy has issues with simple manners.
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Con man.
No 'ratbama has ever come form the USofA.
Bush 43 deserted and Trump is a draft dodger just like Clinton.
Nope, flew F105's (?)
F 102, idiot.
Well, I did put a "?" behind F105.
Rudy has issues with simple manners.
I have big issues with lying smug fat pricks like Douche Weber.
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Con man.
No 'ratbama has ever come form the USofA.
Bush 43 deserted and Trump is a draft dodger just like Clinton.
Nope, flew F105's (?)
F 102, idiot.
Well, I did put a "?" behind F105.
Rudy has issues with simple manners.
I have big issues with lying smug fat pricks like Douche Weber.
You seem to have an inability to respond to courtesy with courtesy.
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Con man.
--
There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is *THE* foundation of Christianity.
Sycophant: a compulsive ass-kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.
So what? Trump's father was like my dad-too young for WWI and too old for WWII. I am in Trump's age group. Back in the 1960s, the draft was run by a lottery system. Only people with birthdays drawn from the lottery were eligible for the draft. His birthday was probably not selected. Mine was.I had to go and so did my cousin. In those days, if you got a draft notice, they gave you 30 days to sign up with a reserve unit to avoid being drafted.I got a draft notice and
signed up for the Navy Reserves.

Funny thing :After serving in the Navy Reserves for 2 years, I discovered I liked the Navy, so I volunteered for active duty for 4 years and became an officer.
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Con man.
--
There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is *THE* foundation of Christianity.
Sycophant: a compulsive ass-kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.
So what? Trump's father was like my dad-too young for WWI and too old for
WWII. I am in Trump's age group. Back in the 1960s, the draft was run by
a lottery system. Only people with birthdays drawn from the lottery were
eligible for the draft. His birthday was probably not selected. Mine
was.I had to go and so did my cousin. In those days, if you got a draft
notice, they gave you 30 days to sign up with a reserve unit to avoid
being drafted.I got a draft notice and
signed up for the Navy Reserves.
Funny thing :After serving in the Navy Reserves for 2 years, I discovered
I liked the Navy, so I volunteered for active duty for 4 years and became an officer.
"So what"?? So Trump eats shit!!

And WE WILL NOT HAVE A SHITEATER FOR PRESIDENT! Just look at what happened
to Canada and Australia after they started eating shit!

So We Must Resist! If Trump has his way, all restaurants will legally be
required to serve shit! That may be okay for Duke and ArtyJoe BUT NOT FOR
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