The Exodus Controversy

http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.aspx

John Locke

2018-01-21 19:19:06 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
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..you still don't get it. There is no controversy because there is no
hard, verifiable evidence for any Exodus. You need artifacts
that can be analyzed and tied, with at least 98% certainty, to an
"Exodus"...tablets, inscriptions, pottery, human and animal remains,
tools, dwelling sites, food remnants, poop piles, etc. etc. etc.etc.
Ambiguous scripture, wives tales, hearsay and hokey "historian"
accounts with scant references doesn't cut it. That's not evidence.
That's just pure speculation.

s***@gmail.com

2018-01-27 05:56:22 UTC

Post by John Locke

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Yes and scientifically you can't prove it didn't happen so you are dependant on testimony. Your loose interpretation doesn not even look at the evidence...look at yourself in the mirror.

Tim

2018-01-21 20:19:28 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
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From a Rabbi cited in your link:

the truth is that virtually every modern archaeologist who has investigated the story of the Exodus, with very few exceptions, agrees that the way the Bible describes the Exodus is not the way it happened, if it happened at all (Watanabe 2001).

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And that is the consensus view. That there is a consensus view shows that there is no real controversy. Just a small group of bible thumpers who want to try and create one.

v***@gmail.com

2018-01-21 23:25:24 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
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That's why the subject of the exodus is called a controversy,you stupid jackass. It means the experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

Smiler

2018-01-22 04:11:32 UTC

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That's why the subject of the exodus is called a controversy,you stupid
jackass. It means the experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No experts claim it ever happened.

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aaa

2018-01-22 05:09:23 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
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That's why the subject of the exodus is called a controversy,you stupid
jackass. It means the experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No experts claim it ever happened.

It's a teaching of philosophy. Philosophy doesn't care about empirical
evidence. Why does it matter? Would the philosophical meaning taught in
Exodus change because of the lack of physical evidence?

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Atlatl Axolotl

2018-01-22 05:53:20 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a controversy,you stupid
jackass. It means the experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No experts claim it ever happened.

.> It's a teaching of philosophy. Philosophy doesn't care about empirical
.> evidence. Why does it matter? Would the philosophical meaning taught in
.> Exodus change because of the lack of physical evidence?

You tell us: What is "the philosophical meaning taught in Exodus"?

AA

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Cloud Hobbit

2018-01-22 05:54:32 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a controversy,you stupid
jackass. It means the experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No experts claim it ever happened.

.> It's a teaching of philosophy. Philosophy doesn't care about empirical
.> evidence. Why does it matter? Would the philosophical meaning taught in
.> Exodus change because of the lack of physical evidence?
You tell us: What is "the philosophical meaning taught in Exodus"?

This should be, um, weird.

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aaa

2018-01-22 06:18:25 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit

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That's why the subject of the exodus is called a controversy,you stupid
jackass. It means the experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No experts claim it ever happened.

.> It's a teaching of philosophy. Philosophy doesn't care about empirical
.> evidence. Why does it matter? Would the philosophical meaning taught in
.> Exodus change because of the lack of physical evidence?
You tell us: What is "the philosophical meaning taught in Exodus"?

This should be, um, weird.

Why? The Bible is full of philosophical meanings and insights. You just
don't bother to pay attention to them.

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aaa

2018-01-22 06:17:09 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a controversy,you stupid
jackass. It means the experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No experts claim it ever happened.

..> It's a teaching of philosophy. Philosophy doesn't care about empirical
..> evidence. Why does it matter? Would the philosophical meaning taught in
..> Exodus change because of the lack of physical evidence?
You tell us: What is "the philosophical meaning taught in Exodus"?

In my opinion, Exodus tells the story that God leads his chosen people
out of the slavery in sin to the promised land of milk and honey - the
paradise on earth. We can learn from Exodus about our own human destiny.

Post by aaa
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Atlatl Axolotl

2018-01-22 07:21:16 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
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That's why the subject of the exodus is called a controversy,you stupid
jackass. It means the experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No experts claim it ever happened.

.> > You tell us: What is "the philosophical meaning taught in Exodus"?
.> In my opinion, Exodus tells the story that God leads his chosen people
.> out of the slavery in sin to the promised land of milk and honey - the
.> paradise on earth. We can learn from Exodus about our own human destiny.

And the philosophical teachings in God playing mind control games
with Pharaoh's brain to make sure that He gets to slaughter countless Egyptians
who had no power to affect Pharaoh's decisions?

AA

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aaa

2018-01-22 07:49:55 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
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That's why the subject of the exodus is called a controversy,you stupid
jackass. It means the experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No experts claim it ever happened.

..> > You tell us: What is "the philosophical meaning taught in Exodus"?
..> In my opinion, Exodus tells the story that God leads his chosen people
..> out of the slavery in sin to the promised land of milk and honey - the
..> paradise on earth. We can learn from Exodus about our own human destiny.
And the philosophical teachings in God playing mind control games
with Pharaoh's brain to make sure that He gets to slaughter countless Egyptians
who had no power to affect Pharaoh's decisions?

No. That is only what appeared to be the case to the ancient Israelis,
but appearances are often deceiving. From the modern point of view,
Pharaoh was blinded by his own sin unable to acknowledge the compassion
in his own heart to allow the Jews leave. Had God controlled the
Pharaoh's mind, Pharaoh wouldn't be able to sin against God's will.

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Atlatl Axolotl

2018-01-22 07:56:47 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
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That's why the subject of the exodus is called a controversy,you stupid
jackass. It means the experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No experts claim it ever happened.

So the Bible just lies when it tells us over and over and over that
God hardened Pharaoh's heart. And lies again when it informs
us that God told Moses and Aaron in advance that that is
exactly what He was going to do. And then confirmed to Moses that
this is exactly what He did do.

Tell us, did you even read Exodus 3-11?

If not, I suggest you do so.

AA

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aaa

2018-01-22 10:29:50 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a controversy,you stupid
jackass. It means the experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No experts claim it ever happened.

So the Bible just lies when it tells us over and over and over that
God hardened Pharaoh's heart. And lies again when it informs
us that God told Moses and Aaron in advance that that is
exactly what He was going to do. And then confirmed to Moses that
this is exactly what He did do.
Tell us, did you even read Exodus 3-11?
If not, I suggest you do so.

You need to realize that the Bible was written according to the
understanding of the ancient people. The way the ancient people
understood God is quite different from the way we as modern people
understand God. The Bible description has to follow their way of
thinking instead of ours. If you can't make such distinction, then you
might be worse than the ancient people.

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Mitchell Holman

2018-01-22 13:59:58 UTC

On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 1:08:13 PM UTC-5,

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Co
ntroversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a
controversy,you stupid jackass. It means the experts disagree.
YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No experts claim it ever happened.

..> It's a teaching of philosophy. Philosophy doesn't care about
empirical ..> evidence. Why does it matter? Would the
philosophical meaning taught in ..> Exodus change because of the
lack of physical evidence?

..> > You tell us: What is "the philosophical meaning taught in Exodus"?
..> In my opinion, Exodus tells the story that God leads his chosen
people ..> out of the slavery in sin to the promised land of milk
and honey - the ..> paradise on earth. We can learn from Exodus
about our own human destiny.
And the philosophical teachings in God playing mind control games
with Pharaoh's brain to make sure that He gets to slaughter
countless Egyptians who had no power to affect Pharaoh's decisions?

No. That is only what appeared to be the case to the ancient
Israelis, but appearances are often deceiving. From the modern point
of view, Pharaoh was blinded by his own sin unable to acknowledge
the compassion in his own heart to allow the Jews leave. Had God
controlled the Pharaoh's mind, Pharaoh wouldn't be able to sin
against God's will.

So the Bible just lies when it tells us over and over and over that
God hardened Pharaoh's heart. And lies again when it informs
us that God told Moses and Aaron in advance that that is
exactly what He was going to do. And then confirmed to Moses that
this is exactly what He did do.
Tell us, did you even read Exodus 3-11?
If not, I suggest you do so.

The Bible account is either truth
or it is a lie. Which is it?

aaa

2018-01-23 00:37:43 UTC

On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 1:08:13 PM UTC-5,

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Co
ntroversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a
controversy,you stupid jackass. It means the experts disagree.
YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No experts claim it ever happened.

..> It's a teaching of philosophy. Philosophy doesn't care about
empirical ..> evidence. Why does it matter? Would the
philosophical meaning taught in ..> Exodus change because of the
lack of physical evidence?

..> > You tell us: What is "the philosophical meaning taught in Exodus"?
..> In my opinion, Exodus tells the story that God leads his chosen
people ..> out of the slavery in sin to the promised land of milk
and honey - the ..> paradise on earth. We can learn from Exodus
about our own human destiny.
And the philosophical teachings in God playing mind control games
with Pharaoh's brain to make sure that He gets to slaughter
countless Egyptians who had no power to affect Pharaoh's decisions?

No. That is only what appeared to be the case to the ancient
Israelis, but appearances are often deceiving. From the modern point
of view, Pharaoh was blinded by his own sin unable to acknowledge
the compassion in his own heart to allow the Jews leave. Had God
controlled the Pharaoh's mind, Pharaoh wouldn't be able to sin
against God's will.

So the Bible just lies when it tells us over and over and over that
God hardened Pharaoh's heart. And lies again when it informs
us that God told Moses and Aaron in advance that that is
exactly what He was going to do. And then confirmed to Moses that
this is exactly what He did do.
Tell us, did you even read Exodus 3-11?
If not, I suggest you do so.

The Bible account is either truth
or it is a lie. Which is it?

The Bible is all about the truth, but we may not be able to understand
the truth correctly.

--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

Mitchell Holman

2018-01-23 03:54:14 UTC

On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 1:08:13 PM UTC-5,

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-

Post by v***@gmail.com
ntroversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a
controversy,you stupid jackass. It means the experts

disagree.

Post by v***@gmail.com
YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No experts claim it ever happened.

..> It's a teaching of philosophy. Philosophy doesn't care about
empirical ..> evidence. Why does it matter? Would the
philosophical meaning taught in ..> Exodus change because of the
lack of physical evidence?

..> > You tell us: What is "the philosophical meaning taught in Exodus"?
..> In my opinion, Exodus tells the story that God leads his chosen
people ..> out of the slavery in sin to the promised land of milk
and honey - the ..> paradise on earth. We can learn from Exodus
about our own human destiny.
And the philosophical teachings in God playing mind control games
with Pharaoh's brain to make sure that He gets to slaughter
countless Egyptians who had no power to affect Pharaoh's

decisions?

Post by aaa
No. That is only what appeared to be the case to the ancient
Israelis, but appearances are often deceiving. From the modern point
of view, Pharaoh was blinded by his own sin unable to acknowledge
the compassion in his own heart to allow the Jews leave. Had God
controlled the Pharaoh's mind, Pharaoh wouldn't be able to sin
against God's will.

So the Bible just lies when it tells us over and over and over that
God hardened Pharaoh's heart. And lies again when it informs
us that God told Moses and Aaron in advance that that is
exactly what He was going to do. And then confirmed to Moses that
this is exactly what He did do.
Tell us, did you even read Exodus 3-11?
If not, I suggest you do so.

The Bible account is either truth
or it is a lie. Which is it?

The Bible is all about the truth, but we may not be able to understand
the truth correctly.

If the Bible is all about the truth
why do you maintain that direct quotes
from it are lies?

aaa

2018-01-23 05:52:37 UTC

On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 1:08:13 PM UTC-5,

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-

Post by v***@gmail.com
ntroversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a
controversy,you stupid jackass. It means the experts

disagree.

Post by v***@gmail.com
YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No experts claim it ever happened.

..> It's a teaching of philosophy. Philosophy doesn't care about
empirical ..> evidence. Why does it matter? Would the
philosophical meaning taught in ..> Exodus change because of the
lack of physical evidence?

..> > You tell us: What is "the philosophical meaning taught in Exodus"?
..> In my opinion, Exodus tells the story that God leads his

chosen

people ..> out of the slavery in sin to the promised land of milk
and honey - the ..> paradise on earth. We can learn from Exodus
about our own human destiny.
And the philosophical teachings in God playing mind control games
with Pharaoh's brain to make sure that He gets to slaughter
countless Egyptians who had no power to affect Pharaoh's

decisions?

Post by aaa
No. That is only what appeared to be the case to the ancient
Israelis, but appearances are often deceiving. From the modern

point

Post by aaa
of view, Pharaoh was blinded by his own sin unable to acknowledge
the compassion in his own heart to allow the Jews leave. Had God
controlled the Pharaoh's mind, Pharaoh wouldn't be able to sin
against God's will.

So the Bible just lies when it tells us over and over and over that
God hardened Pharaoh's heart. And lies again when it informs
us that God told Moses and Aaron in advance that that is
exactly what He was going to do. And then confirmed to Moses that
this is exactly what He did do.
Tell us, did you even read Exodus 3-11?
If not, I suggest you do so.

you

Post by aaa
might be worse than the ancient people.

The Bible account is either truth
or it is a lie. Which is it?

The Bible is all about the truth, but we may not be able to understand
the truth correctly.

If the Bible is all about the truth
why do you maintain that direct quotes
from it are lies?

I never did anything like that, but your interpretation is something I
can't control.

--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

Mitchell Holman

2018-01-23 13:03:34 UTC

On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 1:08:13 PM UTC-5,

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-

Exodus-

Post by v***@gmail.com
ntroversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a
controversy,you stupid jackass. It means the experts

disagree.

Post by v***@gmail.com
YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No experts claim it ever happened.

..> It's a teaching of philosophy. Philosophy doesn't care about
empirical ..> evidence. Why does it matter? Would the
philosophical meaning taught in ..> Exodus change because of the
lack of physical evidence?

..> > You tell us: What is "the philosophical meaning taught in Exodus"?
..> In my opinion, Exodus tells the story that God leads his

chosen

decisions?

Post by aaa
No. That is only what appeared to be the case to the ancient
Israelis, but appearances are often deceiving. From the modern

point

So the Bible just lies when it tells us over and over and over that
God hardened Pharaoh's heart. And lies again when it informs
us that God told Moses and Aaron in advance that that is
exactly what He was going to do. And then confirmed to Moses that
this is exactly what He did do.
Tell us, did you even read Exodus 3-11?
If not, I suggest you do so.

you

Post by aaa
might be worse than the ancient people.

The Bible account is either truth
or it is a lie. Which is it?

The Bible is all about the truth, but we may not be able to

understand

Post by aaa
the truth correctly.

If the Bible is all about the truth
why do you maintain that direct quotes
from it are lies?

I never did anything like that, but your interpretation is something I
can't control.

What is your "interpretation" of the following:

So God said to Noah, "I am going to put an end
to all people, for the earth is filled with
violence because of them. I am surely going to
destroy both them and the earth."
Genesis 6:13

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+6:13&version=NIV

Every living thing on the face of the earth
was wiped out; people and animals and the
creatures that move along the ground and the
birds were wiped from the earth. Only Noah
was left, and those with him in the ark.
Genesis 7:23

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+7:23&version=NIV

aaa

2018-01-24 01:09:42 UTC

On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 12:19:30 PM UTC-8, Tim

On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 1:08:13 PM UTC-5,

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-

Exodus-

Post by v***@gmail.com
ntroversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a
controversy,you stupid jackass. It means the experts

disagree.

YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No experts claim it ever happened.

..> It's a teaching of philosophy. Philosophy doesn't care

about

empirical ..> evidence. Why does it matter? Would the
philosophical meaning taught in ..> Exodus change because of

the

lack of physical evidence?

..> > You tell us: What is "the philosophical meaning taught in Exodus"?
..> In my opinion, Exodus tells the story that God leads his

chosen

people ..> out of the slavery in sin to the promised land of

milk

and honey - the ..> paradise on earth. We can learn from Exodus
about our own human destiny.
And the philosophical teachings in God playing mind control

games

with Pharaoh's brain to make sure that He gets to slaughter
countless Egyptians who had no power to affect Pharaoh's

decisions?

Post by aaa
No. That is only what appeared to be the case to the ancient
Israelis, but appearances are often deceiving. From the modern

point

So the Bible just lies when it tells us over and over and over

that

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
God hardened Pharaoh's heart. And lies again when it informs
us that God told Moses and Aaron in advance that that is
exactly what He was going to do. And then confirmed to Moses that
this is exactly what He did do.
Tell us, did you even read Exodus 3-11?
If not, I suggest you do so.

you

Post by aaa
might be worse than the ancient people.

The Bible account is either truth
or it is a lie. Which is it?

The Bible is all about the truth, but we may not be able to

understand

Post by aaa
the truth correctly.

If the Bible is all about the truth
why do you maintain that direct quotes
from it are lies?

I never did anything like that, but your interpretation is something I
can't control.

I have talked about this already. Why repeating it? The cause of the
flood is the human sin. The fact that God knew when it was going to
happen beforehand doesn't mean it was God who caused the flood.

Post by v***@gmail.com
So God said to Noah, "I am going to put an end
to all people, for the earth is filled with
violence because of them. I am surely going to
destroy both them and the earth."
Genesis 6:13
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+6:13&version=NIV
Every living thing on the face of the earth
was wiped out; people and animals and the
creatures that move along the ground and the
birds were wiped from the earth. Only Noah
was left, and those with him in the ark.
Genesis 7:23
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+7:23&version=NIV

--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

Mitchell Holman

2018-01-24 02:47:46 UTC

Post by Mitchell Holman
If the Bible is all about the truth
why do you maintain that direct quotes
from it are lies?

I never did anything like that, but your interpretation is something I
can't control.

I have talked about this already. Why repeating it? The cause of the
flood is the human sin.

The Bible says god did it.

Post by aaa
The fact that God knew when it was going to
happen beforehand doesn't mean it was God who caused the flood.

The Bible QUOTES god as saying
HE caused the flood.

Why don't you believe your Bible?

Post by Mitchell Holman
So God said to Noah, "I am going to put an end
to all people, for the earth is filled with
violence because of them. I am surely going to
destroy both them and the earth."
Genesis 6:13
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+6:13&version=NIV
Every living thing on the face of the earth
was wiped out; people and animals and the
creatures that move along the ground and the
birds were wiped from the earth. Only Noah
was left, and those with him in the ark.
Genesis 7:23
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+7:23&version=NIV

Yap Honghor

2018-01-24 12:08:04 UTC

On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 12:19:30 PM UTC-8, Tim

On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 1:08:13 PM UTC-5,

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-

Exodus-

Post by v***@gmail.com
ntroversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a
controversy,you stupid jackass. It means the experts

disagree.

YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No experts claim it ever happened.

..> It's a teaching of philosophy. Philosophy doesn't care

about

empirical ..> evidence. Why does it matter? Would the
philosophical meaning taught in ..> Exodus change because of

the

lack of physical evidence?

..> > You tell us: What is "the philosophical meaning taught in
Exodus"?
..> In my opinion, Exodus tells the story that God leads his

chosen

people ..> out of the slavery in sin to the promised land of

milk

and honey - the ..> paradise on earth. We can learn from Exodus
about our own human destiny.
And the philosophical teachings in God playing mind control

games

with Pharaoh's brain to make sure that He gets to slaughter
countless Egyptians who had no power to affect Pharaoh's

decisions?

Post by aaa
No. That is only what appeared to be the case to the ancient
Israelis, but appearances are often deceiving. From the modern

point

So the Bible just lies when it tells us over and over and over

that

you

Post by aaa
might be worse than the ancient people.

The Bible account is either truth
or it is a lie. Which is it?

The Bible is all about the truth, but we may not be able to

understand

Post by aaa
the truth correctly.

If the Bible is all about the truth
why do you maintain that direct quotes
from it are lies?

I never did anything like that, but your interpretation is something I
can't control.

If the colored people of this world are not Jews, then there was no flood.
Do you know this????
The only family left after the flood was Noah family which supposedly gave rise to all mankind of today....Noah was Jew!

--
Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

TT Liams

2018-01-25 21:07:00 UTC

On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 12:19:30 PM UTC-8, Tim

On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 1:08:13 PM UTC-5,

http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-

Post by v***@gmail.com
Exodus-

Post by v***@gmail.com
ntroversy.aspx

the truth is that virtually every modern

archaeologist who

has investigated the story of the Exodus, with very few
exceptions, agrees that the way the Bible describes the
Exodus is not the way it happened, if it happened at all
(Watanabe 2001).

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a
controversy,you stupid jackass. It means the experts

disagree.

YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No experts claim it ever happened.

..> It's a teaching of philosophy. Philosophy doesn't care

about

empirical ..> evidence. Why does it matter? Would the
philosophical meaning taught in ..> Exodus change

because of

Post by v***@gmail.com
the

lack of physical evidence?

..> > You tell us: What is "the philosophical meaning

taught in

Exodus"?
..> In my opinion, Exodus tells the story that God leads his

chosen

people ..> out of the slavery in sin to the promised land of

milk

and honey - the ..> paradise on earth. We can learn from Exodus
about our own human destiny.
And the philosophical teachings in God playing mind

control

Post by v***@gmail.com
games

with Pharaoh's brain to make sure that He gets to

slaughter

countless Egyptians who had no power to affect Pharaoh's

decisions?

Post by aaa
No. That is only what appeared to be the case to the

ancient

Post by aaa
Israelis, but appearances are often deceiving. From the modern

point

Post by aaa
of view, Pharaoh was blinded by his own sin unable to

acknowledge

Post by aaa
the compassion in his own heart to allow the Jews leave. Had God
controlled the Pharaoh's mind, Pharaoh wouldn't be able to sin
against God's will.

So the Bible just lies when it tells us over and over and over

that

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
God hardened Pharaoh's heart. And lies again when it

informs

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
us that God told Moses and Aaron in advance that that is
exactly what He was going to do. And then confirmed to Moses that
this is exactly what He did do.
Tell us, did you even read Exodus 3-11?
If not, I suggest you do so.

distinction, then

Post by v***@gmail.com
you

Post by aaa
might be worse than the ancient people.

The Bible account is either truth
or it is a lie. Which is it?

The Bible is all about the truth, but we may not be able to

understand

Post by aaa
the truth correctly.

If the Bible is all about the truth
why do you maintain that direct quotes
from it are lies?

I never did anything like that, but your interpretation is

something I

Post by aaa
can't control.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+6:13&version=NIV

Post by v***@gmail.com
Every living thing on the face of the earth
was wiped out; people and animals and the
creatures that move along the ground and the
birds were wiped from the earth. Only Noah
was left, and those with him in the ark.
Genesis 7:23

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+7:23&version=NIV

Post by aaa
--
Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness,

intelligence,

Post by aaa
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

Yap Honghor

2018-01-24 12:01:44 UTC

On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 12:19:30 PM UTC-8, Tim

On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 1:08:13 PM UTC-5,

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-

Exodus-

Post by v***@gmail.com
ntroversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a
controversy,you stupid jackass. It means the experts

disagree.

YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No experts claim it ever happened.

..> It's a teaching of philosophy. Philosophy doesn't care

about

empirical ..> evidence. Why does it matter? Would the
philosophical meaning taught in ..> Exodus change because of

the

lack of physical evidence?

..> > You tell us: What is "the philosophical meaning taught in Exodus"?
..> In my opinion, Exodus tells the story that God leads his

chosen

people ..> out of the slavery in sin to the promised land of

milk

and honey - the ..> paradise on earth. We can learn from Exodus
about our own human destiny.
And the philosophical teachings in God playing mind control

games

with Pharaoh's brain to make sure that He gets to slaughter
countless Egyptians who had no power to affect Pharaoh's

decisions?

Post by aaa
No. That is only what appeared to be the case to the ancient
Israelis, but appearances are often deceiving. From the modern

point

So the Bible just lies when it tells us over and over and over

that

you

Post by aaa
might be worse than the ancient people.

The Bible account is either truth
or it is a lie. Which is it?

The Bible is all about the truth, but we may not be able to

understand

Post by aaa
the truth correctly.

If the Bible is all about the truth
why do you maintain that direct quotes
from it are lies?

I never did anything like that, but your interpretation is something I
can't control.

So God said to Noah, "I am going to put an end
to all people, for the earth is filled with
violence because of them. I am surely going to
destroy both them and the earth."
Genesis 6:13

If that was true, every one on earth now would be Jew, right?
Just for this, we know the tales were fakes.

Post by v***@gmail.com
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+6:13&version=NIV
Every living thing on the face of the earth
was wiped out; people and animals and the
creatures that move along the ground and the
birds were wiped from the earth. Only Noah
was left, and those with him in the ark.
Genesis 7:23
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+7:23&version=NIV

Yap Honghor

2018-01-23 08:10:32 UTC

Post by Mitchell Holman
The Bible account is either truth
or it is a lie. Which is it?

The Bible is all about the truth, but we may not be able to understand
the truth correctly.

What fucking truth?
All the tales in there are con stories....

aaa

2018-01-24 01:04:07 UTC

Post by Yap Honghor

Post by Mitchell Holman
The Bible account is either truth
or it is a lie. Which is it?

The Bible is all about the truth, but we may not be able to understand
the truth correctly.

What fucking truth?
All the tales in there are con stories....

That only shows your total spiritual blindness. You don't know what you
are talking about.

--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

Atlatl Axolotl

2018-01-22 20:00:37 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a controversy,you stupid
jackass. It means the experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No experts claim it ever happened.

.> No. That is only what appeared to be the case to the ancient Israelis,
.> but appearances are often deceiving. From the modern point of view,
.> Pharaoh was blinded by his own sin unable to acknowledge the compassion
.> in his own heart to allow the Jews leave. Had God controlled the
.> Pharaoh's mind, Pharaoh wouldn't be able to sin against God's will.

Wow. Amazing.

If there were any doubt previously that you have never read the
actual story, there can be none now.

So here you go. Start reading.

The right arrow gets you to the next chapter.
Don't stop until you've completed through Chapter Eleven:

-- https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=exodus+3&version=KJV

Go.

AA

aaa

2018-01-23 01:22:11 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a controversy,you stupid
jackass. It means the experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No experts claim it ever happened.

.> No. That is only what appeared to be the case to the ancient Israelis,
.> but appearances are often deceiving. From the modern point of view,
.> Pharaoh was blinded by his own sin unable to acknowledge the compassion
.> in his own heart to allow the Jews leave. Had God controlled the
.> Pharaoh's mind, Pharaoh wouldn't be able to sin against God's will.
Wow. Amazing.
If there were any doubt previously that you have never read the
actual story, there can be none now.
So here you go. Start reading.
The right arrow gets you to the next chapter.
-- https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=exodus+3&version=KJV
Go.

Well, I just did. So what's the problem? I see no problem in my
understanding of the Bible.

--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

v***@gmail.com

2018-01-23 03:08:33 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a controversy,you stupid
jackass. It means the experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No experts claim it ever happened.

.> No. That is only what appeared to be the case to the ancient Israelis,
.> but appearances are often deceiving. From the modern point of view,
.> Pharaoh was blinded by his own sin unable to acknowledge the compassion
.> in his own heart to allow the Jews leave. Had God controlled the
.> Pharaoh's mind, Pharaoh wouldn't be able to sin against God's will.
Wow. Amazing.
If there were any doubt previously that you have never read the
actual story, there can be none now.
So here you go. Start reading.
The right arrow gets you to the next chapter.
-- https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=exodus+3&version=KJV
Go.

Well, I just did. So what's the problem? I see no problem in my
understanding of the Bible.

--
Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

I will give you credit for honesty. At least you admit not having read the bible. The atheists are not that honest.

aaa

2018-01-23 07:35:15 UTC

On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 10:09:30 PM UTC-7, aaa

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 15:25:24 -0800, vtandofsky

On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 12:19:30 PM UTC-8,

On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 1:08:13 PM UTC-5,

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a
controversy,you stupid jackass. It means the
experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No experts claim it ever happened.

..> It's a teaching of philosophy. Philosophy doesn't
care about empirical ..> evidence. Why does it matter?
Would the philosophical meaning taught in ..> Exodus
change because of the lack of physical evidence?

..> > You tell us: What is "the philosophical meaning taught in Exodus"?
..> In my opinion, Exodus tells the story that God leads his
chosen people ..> out of the slavery in sin to the promised
land of milk and honey - the ..> paradise on earth. We can
learn from Exodus about our own human destiny.
And the philosophical teachings in God playing mind control
games with Pharaoh's brain to make sure that He gets to
slaughter countless Egyptians who had no power to affect
Pharaoh's decisions?

.> No. That is only what appeared to be the case to the ancient
Israelis, .> but appearances are often deceiving. From the modern
point of view, .> Pharaoh was blinded by his own sin unable to
acknowledge the compassion .> in his own heart to allow the Jews
leave. Had God controlled the .> Pharaoh's mind, Pharaoh wouldn't
be able to sin against God's will.
Wow. Amazing.
If there were any doubt previously that you have never read the
actual story, there can be none now.
So here you go. Start reading.
The right arrow gets you to the next chapter. Don't stop until
--
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=exodus+3&version=KJV

Go.

Post by aaa
Well, I just did. So what's the problem? I see no problem in my
understanding of the Bible.

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness,
intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom,
and life itself.

I will give you credit for honesty. At least you admit not having
read the bible. The atheists are not that honest.

Thanks. I have no problem to read the Bible if it's required. I just
don't have the concentration to read the whole book.

--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

v***@gmail.com

2018-01-23 08:19:17 UTC

On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 10:09:30 PM UTC-7, aaa

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 15:25:24 -0800, vtandofsky

On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 12:19:30 PM UTC-8,

On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 1:08:13 PM UTC-5,

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a
controversy,you stupid jackass. It means the
experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No experts claim it ever happened.

..> It's a teaching of philosophy. Philosophy doesn't
care about empirical ..> evidence. Why does it matter?
Would the philosophical meaning taught in ..> Exodus
change because of the lack of physical evidence?

..> > You tell us: What is "the philosophical meaning taught in Exodus"?
..> In my opinion, Exodus tells the story that God leads his
chosen people ..> out of the slavery in sin to the promised
land of milk and honey - the ..> paradise on earth. We can
learn from Exodus about our own human destiny.
And the philosophical teachings in God playing mind control
games with Pharaoh's brain to make sure that He gets to
slaughter countless Egyptians who had no power to affect
Pharaoh's decisions?

.> No. That is only what appeared to be the case to the ancient
Israelis, .> but appearances are often deceiving. From the modern
point of view, .> Pharaoh was blinded by his own sin unable to
acknowledge the compassion .> in his own heart to allow the Jews
leave. Had God controlled the .> Pharaoh's mind, Pharaoh wouldn't
be able to sin against God's will.
Wow. Amazing.
If there were any doubt previously that you have never read the
actual story, there can be none now.
So here you go. Start reading.
The right arrow gets you to the next chapter. Don't stop until
--
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=exodus+3&version=KJV

Go.

Post by aaa
Well, I just did. So what's the problem? I see no problem in my
understanding of the Bible.

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness,
intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom,
and life itself.

I will give you credit for honesty. At least you admit not having
read the bible. The atheists are not that honest.

Thanks. I have no problem to read the Bible if it's required. I just
don't have the concentration to read the whole book.

My offer still stands. If you have questions about the Old Testament, just ask me. If you need help with the New Testament, ask Duke. That's his ballpark.

Atlatl Axolotl

2018-01-23 23:07:05 UTC

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 15:25:24 -0800, vtandofsky

On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 12:19:30 PM UTC-8,

On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 1:08:13 PM UTC-5,

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a
controversy,you stupid jackass. It means the
experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No experts claim it ever happened.

..> It's a teaching of philosophy. Philosophy doesn't
care about empirical ..> evidence. Why does it matter?
Would the philosophical meaning taught in ..> Exodus
change because of the lack of physical evidence?

..> > You tell us: What is "the philosophical meaning taught in Exodus"?
..> In my opinion, Exodus tells the story that God leads his
chosen people ..> out of the slavery in sin to the promised
land of milk and honey - the ..> paradise on earth. We can
learn from Exodus about our own human destiny.
And the philosophical teachings in God playing mind control
games with Pharaoh's brain to make sure that He gets to
slaughter countless Egyptians who had no power to affect
Pharaoh's decisions?

.> No. That is only what appeared to be the case to the ancient
Israelis, .> but appearances are often deceiving. From the modern
point of view, .> Pharaoh was blinded by his own sin unable to
acknowledge the compassion .> in his own heart to allow the Jews
leave. Had God controlled the .> Pharaoh's mind, Pharaoh wouldn't
be able to sin against God's will.
Wow. Amazing.
If there were any doubt previously that you have never read the
actual story, there can be none now.
So here you go. Start reading.
The right arrow gets you to the next chapter. Don't stop until
--
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=exodus+3&version=KJV

Go.

Post by aaa
Well, I just did. So what's the problem? I see no problem in my
understanding of the Bible.

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness,
intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom,
and life itself.

I will give you credit for honesty. At least you admit not having
read the bible. The atheists are not that honest.

Thanks. I have no problem to read the Bible if it's required. I just
don't have the concentration to read the whole book.

.> My offer still stands. If you have questions about the Old Testament, just ask me. If you need help with the New Testament, ask Duke. That's his ballpark.

While you're at it, you might want to help him a bit in understanding
the enormity of the suffering of the Jews in the Holocaust:

"God was with them at all times to take away their suffering. They might
have to suffer externally, but internally, they were comforted by God to
be in peace with God. Their external physical suffering was only
temporary, but their internal spiritual peace was everlasting. "

-- aaa, https://tinyurl.com/ya6wca3u

AA

aaa

2018-01-24 01:03:02 UTC

On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 11:17:13 PM UTC-7, aaa

On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 10:09:30 PM UTC-7,

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 15:25:24 -0800, vtandofsky

On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 12:19:30 PM

On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 1:08:13 PM

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called
a controversy,you stupid jackass. It means the
experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No experts claim it ever happened.

..> It's a teaching of philosophy. Philosophy
doesn't care about empirical ..> evidence. Why does
it matter? Would the philosophical meaning taught in
..> Exodus change because of the lack of physical
evidence?

..> > You tell us: What is "the philosophical meaning
taught in Exodus"?
..> In my opinion, Exodus tells the story that God leads
his chosen people ..> out of the slavery in sin to the
promised land of milk and honey - the ..> paradise on
earth. We can learn from Exodus about our own human
destiny.
And the philosophical teachings in God playing mind
control games with Pharaoh's brain to make sure that He
gets to slaughter countless Egyptians who had no power to
affect Pharaoh's decisions?

.> No. That is only what appeared to be the case to the
ancient Israelis, .> but appearances are often deceiving.
From the modern point of view, .> Pharaoh was blinded by his
own sin unable to acknowledge the compassion .> in his own
heart to allow the Jews leave. Had God controlled the .>
Pharaoh's mind, Pharaoh wouldn't be able to sin against God's will.
Wow. Amazing.
If there were any doubt previously that you have never read
the actual story, there can be none now.
So here you go. Start reading.
The right arrow gets you to the next chapter. Don't stop
--
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=exodus+3&version=KJV

Go.

Post by aaa
Well, I just did. So what's the problem? I see no problem in
my understanding of the Bible.

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness,
intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace,
freedom, and life itself.

I will give you credit for honesty. At least you admit not
having read the bible. The atheists are not that honest.

Thanks. I have no problem to read the Bible if it's required. I
just don't have the concentration to read the whole book.

My offer still stands. If you have questions about the Old Testament,
just ask me. If you need help with the New Testament, ask Duke.
That's his ballpark.

OK. Thank you for such generous offer. What is the spiritual and
philosophical meaning of Exodus from the Jewish point of view? Could you
give me a general idea about it?

--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

Yap Honghor

2018-01-24 12:05:06 UTC

On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 11:17:13 PM UTC-7, aaa

On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 10:09:30 PM UTC-7,

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 15:25:24 -0800, vtandofsky

On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 12:19:30 PM

On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 1:08:13 PM

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called
a controversy,you stupid jackass. It means the
experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No experts claim it ever happened.

..> It's a teaching of philosophy. Philosophy
doesn't care about empirical ..> evidence. Why does
it matter? Would the philosophical meaning taught in
..> Exodus change because of the lack of physical
evidence?

..> > You tell us: What is "the philosophical meaning
taught in Exodus"?
..> In my opinion, Exodus tells the story that God leads
his chosen people ..> out of the slavery in sin to the
promised land of milk and honey - the ..> paradise on
earth. We can learn from Exodus about our own human
destiny.
And the philosophical teachings in God playing mind
control games with Pharaoh's brain to make sure that He
gets to slaughter countless Egyptians who had no power to
affect Pharaoh's decisions?

.> No. That is only what appeared to be the case to the
ancient Israelis, .> but appearances are often deceiving.
From the modern point of view, .> Pharaoh was blinded by his
own sin unable to acknowledge the compassion .> in his own
heart to allow the Jews leave. Had God controlled the .>
Pharaoh's mind, Pharaoh wouldn't be able to sin against God's will.
Wow. Amazing.
If there were any doubt previously that you have never read
the actual story, there can be none now.
So here you go. Start reading.
The right arrow gets you to the next chapter. Don't stop
--
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=exodus+3&version=KJV

Go.

Post by aaa
Well, I just did. So what's the problem? I see no problem in
my understanding of the Bible.

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness,
intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace,
freedom, and life itself.

I will give you credit for honesty. At least you admit not
having read the bible. The atheists are not that honest.

Thanks. I have no problem to read the Bible if it's required. I
just don't have the concentration to read the whole book.

My offer still stands. If you have questions about the Old Testament,
just ask me. If you need help with the New Testament, ask Duke.
That's his ballpark.

OK. Thank you for such generous offer. What is the spiritual and
philosophical meaning of Exodus from the Jewish point of view? Could you
give me a general idea about it?

I can help you here..
You have to use your damaged brain to accept that even in today, no one million people with children and women can survive in the desert for years!!! It i just impossible. Philosophically, it means the Jews were trying to con the brainless with stupid story.

Atlatl Axolotl

2018-01-23 19:57:45 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a controversy,you stupid
jackass. It means the experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No experts claim it ever happened.

.> No. That is only what appeared to be the case to the ancient Israelis,
.> but appearances are often deceiving. From the modern point of view,
.> Pharaoh was blinded by his own sin unable to acknowledge the compassion
.> in his own heart to allow the Jews leave. Had God controlled the
.> Pharaoh's mind, Pharaoh wouldn't be able to sin against God's will.
Wow. Amazing.
If there were any doubt previously that you have never read the
actual story, there can be none now.
So here you go. Start reading.
The right arrow gets you to the next chapter.
-- https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=exodus+3&version=KJV
Go.

Well, I just did. So what's the problem? I see no problem in my
understanding of the Bible.

And how many times did you see God saying that He would
harden Pharaoh's heart to prevent Pharaoh from going
along with Moses' demands?

And how many times did you see it recorded that God did play
that mind control trick on Pharaoh, so that Pharaoh could not agree?

Something you told us God did not do.

-- https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.atheism/RPVEnL5zu38/bm5ZdrNoAwAJ

AA

aaa

2018-01-24 00:57:10 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a controversy,you stupid
jackass. It means the experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No experts claim it ever happened.

.> No. That is only what appeared to be the case to the ancient Israelis,
.> but appearances are often deceiving. From the modern point of view,
.> Pharaoh was blinded by his own sin unable to acknowledge the compassion
.> in his own heart to allow the Jews leave. Had God controlled the
.> Pharaoh's mind, Pharaoh wouldn't be able to sin against God's will.
Wow. Amazing.
If there were any doubt previously that you have never read the
actual story, there can be none now.
So here you go. Start reading.
The right arrow gets you to the next chapter.
-- https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=exodus+3&version=KJV
Go.

Well, I just did. So what's the problem? I see no problem in my
understanding of the Bible.

And how many times did you see God saying that He would
harden Pharaoh's heart to prevent Pharaoh from going
along with Moses' demands?
And how many times did you see it recorded that God did play
that mind control trick on Pharaoh, so that Pharaoh could not agree?
Something you told us God did not do.
-- https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.atheism/RPVEnL5zu38/bm5ZdrNoAwAJ

I still don't agree with your interpretation. God hardened Pharaoh's
heart by not allowing Pharaoh to have access to compassion. God is the
source of our compassion. If God does not provide us with compassion, we
all would be blinded by the sin the same as Pharaoh. This is not mind
control. This simply shows how essential God is for anyone to make a
good judgment about anything.

--
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Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

TT Liams

2018-01-24 23:46:52 UTC

On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 1:08:13 PM UTC-5,

http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.
aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a

controversy,you stupid

Post by v***@gmail.com
jackass. It means the experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No experts claim it ever happened.

God's will.

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Wow. Amazing.
If there were any doubt previously that you have never read the
actual story, there can be none now.
So here you go. Start reading.
The right arrow gets you to the next chapter.
--

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=exodus+3&version=KJV

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Go.

Well, I just did. So what's the problem? I see no problem in my
understanding of the Bible.

And how many times did you see God saying that He would
harden Pharaoh's heart to prevent Pharaoh from going
along with Moses' demands?
And how many times did you see it recorded that God did play
that mind control trick on Pharaoh, so that Pharaoh could not agree?
Something you told us God did not do.
--

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.atheism/RPVEnL5zu38/bm5ZdrNoAwAJ

Post by aaa
I still don't agree with your interpretation. God hardened

Pharaoh's

Post by aaa
heart by not allowing Pharaoh to have access to compassion. God is the
source of our compassion. If God does not provide us with

compassion, we

Post by aaa
all would be blinded by the sin the same as Pharaoh. This is not mind
control. This simply shows how essential God is for anyone to make a
good judgment about anything.

--
Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness,

intelligence,

Post by aaa
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

Do you go to a church were Christ is preached & are born again as a
Christian?????

duke

2018-01-24 23:20:31 UTC

On Tue, 23 Jan 2018 11:57:45 -0800 (PST), Atlatl Axolotl

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
So here you go. Start reading.
The right arrow gets you to the next chapter.
-- https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=exodus+3&version=KJV
Go.

Well, I just did. So what's the problem? I see no problem in my
understanding of the Bible.

And how many times did you see God saying that He would
harden Pharaoh's heart to prevent Pharaoh from going
along with Moses' demands?
And how many times did you see it recorded that God did play
that mind control trick on Pharaoh, so that Pharaoh could not agree?
Something you told us God did not do.

Haahaahaa. Toxic, you're a riot. The mental capacities of a man that just
can't accept so much of scripture, especially the SBaptist OT, that is heavily
spiritual, not physical. You're just sniffing too much glue.

the dukester, American-American

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Teresita

2018-01-25 01:44:19 UTC

Post by duke
Haahaahaa. Toxic, you're a riot. The mental capacities of a man that just
can't accept so much of scripture, especially the SBaptist OT, that is heavily
spiritual, not physical. You're just sniffing too much glue.

Okay, let's see what the NT says.

Romans 9:

[17] For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose
have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my
name might be declared throughout all the earth.

[18] Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he
will he hardeneth.

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duke

2018-01-25 19:24:09 UTC

Okay, let's see what the NT says.
[17] For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose
have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my
name might be declared throughout all the earth.
[18] Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he
will he hardeneth.

Romans 9:14-18New International Version (NIV)
14 What then shall we say? Is God unjust? Not at all! 15 For he says to Moses,
I will have mercy on whom I have mercy,
and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.[a]
16 It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on Gods mercy.
17 For Scripture says to Pharaoh: I raised you up for this very purpose, that I
might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the
earth.[b] 18 Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he
hardens whom he wants to harden.

Remember now - NO man has ever seen God. Thus we have dreams and inspirations
guiding man in his belief in God, who does not report to man.

the dukester, American-American

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Cloud Hobbit

2018-01-25 21:28:01 UTC

Post by duke

Romans 9:14-18New International Version (NIV)
14 What then shall we say? Is God unjust? Not at all! 15 For he says to Moses,
的 will have mercy on whom I have mercy,
and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.納a]
16 It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God痴 mercy.
17 For Scripture says to Pharaoh: 的 raised you up for this very purpose, that I
might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the
earth.納b] 18 Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he
hardens whom he wants to harden.
Remember now - NO man has ever seen God. Thus we have dreams and inspirations
guiding man in his belief in God, who does not report to man.
the dukester, American-Moron

No man has seen God, because God doesn't exist.

duke

2018-01-26 21:45:19 UTC

On Thu, 25 Jan 2018 13:28:01 -0800 (PST), Cloud Hobbit

Post by Cloud Hobbit

Post by duke

Romans 9:14-18New International Version (NIV)
14 What then shall we say? Is God unjust? Not at all! 15 For he says to Moses,
? will have mercy on whom I have mercy,
and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.?a]
16 It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God? mercy.
17 For Scripture says to Pharaoh: ? raised you up for this very purpose, that I
might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the
earth.?b] 18 Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he
hardens whom he wants to harden.
Remember now - NO man has ever seen God. Thus we have dreams and inspirations
guiding man in his belief in God, who does not report to man.
the dukester, American-Moron

No man has seen God, because God doesn't exist.

Can you prove that? Of course you can't. It's just meaningless desire on your
part.

the dukester, American-American

*****
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but to form, not to teach but to live.

*****

Cloud Hobbit

2018-01-26 23:03:23 UTC

Can you prove that? Of course you can't. It's just meaningless desire on your
part.
__________

Your God, the God of the Bible does not exist. It is of no consequence to me nor is it a desire that there not be a God.
It's simply the only conclusion a sane person can come to based on the evidence provided by you and your bible.

Your God violates the law of identity.

It also violates the first law of TD.

Should evidence be discovered tomorrow demonstrating the existence of a God it would not be your God because your God is impossible.

Teresita

2018-01-26 01:56:27 UTC

Post by duke
NO man has ever seen God. Thus we have dreams and inspirations
guiding man in his belief in God, who does not report to man.

I'm pretty sure this reply qualifies as proselytizing, Duke, which is a
violation of the community guidelines here.

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Kevrob

2018-01-26 02:21:03 UTC

Post by duke
NO man has ever seen God. Thus we have dreams and inspirations
guiding man in his belief in God, who does not report to man.

I'm pretty sure this reply qualifies as proselytizing, Duke, which is a
violation of the community guidelines here.

Of course it is. Earl will deny it, claiming it is only
proselytizing if he tries to get us to switch from Marlboro
to Lucky Strike, when we don't smoke cigarettes at all.

Kevin R

v***@gmail.com

2018-01-26 16:46:39 UTC

Post by duke
NO man has ever seen God. Thus we have dreams and inspirations
guiding man in his belief in God, who does not report to man.

I'm pretty sure this reply qualifies as proselytizing, Duke, which is a
violation of the community guidelines here.

Of course it is. Earl will deny it, claiming it is only
proselytizing if he tries to get us to switch from Marlboro
to Lucky Strike, when we don't smoke cigarettes at all.
Kevin R

BULLSHIT. Nowhere there does Duke encourage anyone to convert to Catholicism. All he does is describe his own beliefs.

Teresita

2018-01-26 16:57:32 UTC

Post by duke
NO man has ever seen God. Thus we have dreams and inspirations
guiding man in his belief in God, who does not report to man.

I'm pretty sure this reply qualifies as proselytizing, Duke, which is a
violation of the community guidelines here.

Of course it is. Earl will deny it, claiming it is only
proselytizing if he tries to get us to switch from Marlboro
to Lucky Strike, when we don't smoke cigarettes at all.
Kevin R

BULLSHIT. Nowhere there does Duke encourage anyone to convert to Catholicism. All he does is describe his own beliefs.

If I went on alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic and described my
belief that dead people do not resurrect and float into the sky, would
that not be viewed as proselytizing atheism?

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v***@gmail.com

2018-01-26 17:19:29 UTC

Post by duke
NO man has ever seen God. Thus we have dreams and inspirations
guiding man in his belief in God, who does not report to man.

I'm pretty sure this reply qualifies as proselytizing, Duke, which is a
violation of the community guidelines here.

Of course it is. Earl will deny it, claiming it is only
proselytizing if he tries to get us to switch from Marlboro
to Lucky Strike, when we don't smoke cigarettes at all.
Kevin R

BULLSHIT. Nowhere there does Duke encourage anyone to convert to Catholicism. All he does is describe his own beliefs.

If I went on alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic and described my
belief that dead people do not resurrect and float into the sky, would
that not be viewed as proselytizing atheism?
--
https://twitter.com/LinuxGal

It would not.

Teresita

2018-01-26 17:23:39 UTC

Post by Teresita
If I went on alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic and described my
belief that dead people do not resurrect and float into the sky, would
that not be viewed as proselytizing atheism?

It would not.

Nevertheless, it would violate the charter of that group, I reckon, if
it was set up as a place for people to ask questions about Catholicism.

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Yap Honghor

2018-01-27 01:48:32 UTC

Post by duke
NO man has ever seen God. Thus we have dreams and inspirations
guiding man in his belief in God, who does not report to man.

I'm pretty sure this reply qualifies as proselytizing, Duke, which is a
violation of the community guidelines here.

Of course it is. Earl will deny it, claiming it is only
proselytizing if he tries to get us to switch from Marlboro
to Lucky Strike, when we don't smoke cigarettes at all.
Kevin R

BULLSHIT. Nowhere there does Duke encourage anyone to convert to Catholicism. All he does is describe his own beliefs.

It would not.

It would.....

TT Liams

2018-01-27 02:51:54 UTC

Post by duke
NO man has ever seen God. Thus we have dreams and

inspirations

Post by duke
guiding man in his belief in God, who does not report to man.

I'm pretty sure this reply qualifies as proselytizing, Duke, which is a
violation of the community guidelines here.

Of course it is. Earl will deny it, claiming it is only
proselytizing if he tries to get us to switch from Marlboro
to Lucky Strike, when we don't smoke cigarettes at all.
Kevin R

BULLSHIT. Nowhere there does Duke encourage anyone to convert to

Catholicism. All he does is describe his own beliefs.

Duke is a liar that say's he's a engineer cause he's a liar & don't.

duke

2018-01-26 21:47:18 UTC

Post by duke
NO man has ever seen God. Thus we have dreams and inspirations
guiding man in his belief in God, who does not report to man.

I'm pretty sure this reply qualifies as proselytizing, Duke, which is a
violation of the community guidelines here.

Of course it is. Earl will deny it, claiming it is only
proselytizing if he tries to get us to switch from Marlboro
to Lucky Strike, when we don't smoke cigarettes at all.
Kevin R

Do the rules prohibit truth?

the dukester, American-American

*****
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but to form, not to teach but to live.

*****

Kevrob

2018-01-26 23:34:25 UTC

Post by duke
NO man has ever seen God. Thus we have dreams and inspirations
guiding man in his belief in God, who does not report to man.

I'm pretty sure this reply qualifies as proselytizing, Duke, which is a
violation of the community guidelines here.

Of course it is. Earl will deny it, claiming it is only
proselytizing if he tries to get us to switch from Marlboro
to Lucky Strike, when we don't smoke cigarettes at all.
Kevin R

Do the rules prohibit truth?

People disagree about truth. Quid est veritas?

Making the case for theistic religion is off-charter for this
group. Do that, if you must, elsewhere.

Kevin R

duke

2018-01-26 21:46:36 UTC

Post by duke
NO man has ever seen God. Thus we have dreams and inspirations
guiding man in his belief in God, who does not report to man.

I'm pretty sure this reply qualifies as proselytizing, Duke, which is a
violation of the community guidelines here.

No it's isn't. You say God doesn't exist; I say he does.

the dukester, American-American

*****
The Purpose of scripture is not to inform,
but to form, not to teach but to live.

*****

Teresita

2018-01-26 23:08:44 UTC

Post by duke

Post by duke
NO man has ever seen God. Thus we have dreams and inspirations
guiding man in his belief in God, who does not report to man.

I'm pretty sure this reply qualifies as proselytizing, Duke, which is a
violation of the community guidelines here.

No it's isn't. You say God doesn't exist; I say he does.

You saying on alt.atheism that God exists is the act of proselytizing
and does not conform with the purpose of the newsgroup. Atheists saying
we don't believe God exists conforms with the purpose of the newsgroup.

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Cloud Hobbit

2018-01-26 23:09:15 UTC

No it's isn't. You say God doesn't exist; I say he does.
-
____________

But you have yet to provide any real irrefutable evidence that demonstrates your God exists.

Until you do then there is no reason to believe in it or to believe you.

s***@gmail.com

2018-01-27 06:07:46 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a controversy,you stupid
jackass. It means the experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No experts claim it ever happened.

.> It's a teaching of philosophy. Philosophy doesn't care about empirical
.> evidence. Why does it matter? Would the philosophical meaning taught in
.> Exodus change because of the lack of physical evidence?
You tell us: What is "the philosophical meaning taught in Exodus"?

I agree as a believer in the historicity of the 66 docs...if you already disbelieve in something no amount of evidence convinces (David Hume). But complete objective separate from the stupidity of uniformitarian evolution opens your mind to many things that the scientific method will never show you after all...the method shows little.

Post by aaa
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Atlatl Axolotl

2018-01-27 07:45:07 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a controversy,you stupid
jackass. It means the experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No experts claim it ever happened.

.> It's a teaching of philosophy. Philosophy doesn't care about empirical
.> evidence. Why does it matter? Would the philosophical meaning taught in
.> Exodus change because of the lack of physical evidence?
You tell us: What is "the philosophical meaning taught in Exodus"?

.> I agree as a believer in the historicity of the 66 docs...if you already disbelieve in something no amount of evidence convinces (David Hume). But complete objective separate from the stupidity of uniformitarian evolution opens your mind to many things that the scientific method will never show you after all...the method shows little.

I will merely point out the irony in the juxtaposition of:

+ if you already disbelieve in something no amount of evidence convinces

with:

+ But complete objective separate from the stupidity of uniformitarian evolution

and leave it at that.

Atlatl Axolotl

Post by aaa
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happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

Ted

2018-01-27 12:14:36 UTC

Post by s***@gmail.com

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a controversy,you stupid
jackass. It means the experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No experts claim it ever happened.

.> It's a teaching of philosophy. Philosophy doesn't care about empirical
.> evidence. Why does it matter? Would the philosophical meaning taught in
.> Exodus change because of the lack of physical evidence?
You tell us: What is "the philosophical meaning taught in Exodus"?

I agree as a believer in the historicity of the 66 docs...if you already
disbelieve in something no amount of evidence convinces (David Hume).
But complete objective separate from the stupidity of uniformitarian
evolution opens your mind to many things that the scientific method will
never show you after all...the method shows little.

Post by aaa
--
Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

Have you read any astronomy? I'm a Sagittarius and Jesus was a Capricorn.
What about you?

s***@gmail.com

2018-01-27 06:04:13 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a controversy,you stupid
jackass. It means the experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No experts claim it ever happened.
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I disagree with your assessment of the giants (Gods) those that made the megalithic structures of which knowledge they had no business knowing. For once someone admitted the Gods..look to archaeology..to find the those giants.
(I always wondered as a kid why the Greeks and Roman "made up some gods"...now I know...the Americans dug up 1000's of giants. They are found in the analog microfishes of the libraries of the US. If it comes from the Smithsonian...I would avoid Dr. Powell of the Smithsonian he is anathema when it comes to science (covers up "out of place" artifacts.

Smiler

2018-01-28 03:04:49 UTC

Post by s***@gmail.com

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a controversy,you
stupid jackass. It means the experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY
RETARDED

No experts claim it ever happened.
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made to exactly fit the prejudices of their believers.
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I disagree with your assessment of the giants (Gods) those that made the
megalithic structures of which knowledge they had no business knowing.

You are denying the ancients' capacity for learning and discovery.

Post by s***@gmail.com
For once someone admitted the Gods..look to archaeology..to find the
those giants.

Eric von Danniken?
Bwahahahahaha!

Post by s***@gmail.com
(I always wondered as a kid why the Greeks and Roman "made up some
gods"...now I know...the Americans dug up 1000's of giants. They are
found in the analog microfishes of the libraries of the US.

Where in the thousands of microfiches would I find that information?
I'm not going on a wild goose chase.

Post by s***@gmail.com
If it comes
from the Smithsonian...I would avoid Dr. Powell of the Smithsonian he is
anathema when it comes to science (covers up "out of place" artifacts.

Your evidence for that claim is what?

--
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All gods are tailored to order. They're made to
exactly fit the prejudices of their believers.

Tim

2018-01-22 10:15:35 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a controversy,you stupid jackass. It means the experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No idiot, the experts don't disagree, that's why there is a consensus, and that means there is no controversy.

v***@gmail.com

2018-01-22 10:26:57 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a controversy,you stupid jackass. It means the experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No idiot, the experts don't disagree, that's why there is a consensus, and that means there is no controversy.

PROVE THE CONSENSUS EXISTS, YOU STUPID Asshole.

Tim

2018-01-22 10:46:45 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a controversy,you stupid jackass. It means the experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No idiot, the experts don't disagree, that's why there is a consensus, and that means there is no controversy.

PROVE THE CONSENSUS EXISTS, YOU STUPID Asshole.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Exodus#Historicity

The consensus of modern scholars is that the Bible does not give an accurate account of the origins of Israel.[26] There is no indication that the Israelites ever lived in Ancient Egypt, the Sinai Peninsula shows almost no sign of any occupation for the entire 2nd millennium BCE, and even Kadesh-Barnea, where the Israelites are said to have spent 38 years, was uninhabited prior to the establishment of the Israelite monarchy.[27] Such elements as could be fitted into the 2nd millennium could equally belong to the 1st, and are consistent with a 1st millennium BCE writer trying to set an old story in Egypt.[28] So while a few scholars, notably Kenneth Kitchen and James K. Hoffmeier, continue to discuss the historicity, or at least plausibility, of the story, arguing that the Egyptian records have been lost or suppressed or that the fleeing Israelites left no archaeological trace or that the large numbers are mistranslated, the majority have abandoned the investigation as "a fruitless pursuit".[29][30]

Read it and weep, myth boy.

v***@gmail.com

2018-01-22 18:02:39 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a controversy,you stupid jackass. It means the experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No idiot, the experts don't disagree, that's why there is a consensus, and that means there is no controversy.

PROVE THE CONSENSUS EXISTS, YOU STUPID Asshole.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Exodus#Historicity
The consensus of modern scholars is that the Bible does not give an accurate account of the origins of Israel.[26] There is no indication that the Israelites ever lived in Ancient Egypt, the Sinai Peninsula shows almost no sign of any occupation for the entire 2nd millennium BCE, and even Kadesh-Barnea, where the Israelites are said to have spent 38 years, was uninhabited prior to the establishment of the Israelite monarchy.[27] Such elements as could be fitted into the 2nd millennium could equally belong to the 1st, and are consistent with a 1st millennium BCE writer trying to set an old story in Egypt.[28] So while a few scholars, notably Kenneth Kitchen and James K. Hoffmeier, continue to discuss the historicity, or at least plausibility, of the story, arguing that the Egyptian records have been lost or suppressed or that the fleeing Israelites left no archaeological trace or that the large numbers are mistranslated, the majority have abandoned the investigation as "a fruitless pursuit".[29][30]
Read it and weep, myth boy.

ROTFL!That's one opinion, dumbass, one source. You still don't understand what a consensus is.DAMN ARE YOU STUPID.

v***@gmail.com

2018-01-22 18:04:19 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a controversy,you stupid jackass. It means the experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No idiot, the experts don't disagree, that's why there is a consensus, and that means there is no controversy.

PROVE THE CONSENSUS EXISTS, YOU STUPID Asshole.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Exodus#Historicity
The consensus of modern scholars is that the Bible does not give an accurate account of the origins of Israel.[26] There is no indication that the Israelites ever lived in Ancient Egypt, the Sinai Peninsula shows almost no sign of any occupation for the entire 2nd millennium BCE, and even Kadesh-Barnea, where the Israelites are said to have spent 38 years, was uninhabited prior to the establishment of the Israelite monarchy.[27] Such elements as could be fitted into the 2nd millennium could equally belong to the 1st, and are consistent with a 1st millennium BCE writer trying to set an old story in Egypt.[28] So while a few scholars, notably Kenneth Kitchen and James K. Hoffmeier, continue to discuss the historicity, or at least plausibility, of the story, arguing that the Egyptian records have been lost or suppressed or that the fleeing Israelites left no archaeological trace or that the large numbers are mistranslated, the majority have abandoned the investigation as "a fruitless pursuit".[29][30]
Read it and weep, myth boy.

ROTFL!That's one opinion, dumbass, one source. You still don't understand what a consensus is.DAMN ARE YOU STUPID.

Here are other opinions

me (***@gmail.com change)

Oct 24

Post by v***@gmail.com
https://www.amazon.com/Israel-Egypt-Evidence-Authenticity-Tradition/dp/019513088X

http://patternsofevidence.com/film-one/

http://www.ancient-origins.net/history-important-events/egypt-remembers-ancient-accounts-great-exodus-002295

http://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/insideisrael/2015/February/Exodus-Documentary-Evidence-that-Demands-a-Verdict

Papyrus confirms Exodus Account

https://ohr.edu/838

Tim

2018-01-22 18:25:48 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a controversy,you stupid jackass. It means the experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No idiot, the experts don't disagree, that's why there is a consensus, and that means there is no controversy.

PROVE THE CONSENSUS EXISTS, YOU STUPID Asshole.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Exodus#Historicity
The consensus of modern scholars is that the Bible does not give an accurate account of the origins of Israel.[26] There is no indication that the Israelites ever lived in Ancient Egypt, the Sinai Peninsula shows almost no sign of any occupation for the entire 2nd millennium BCE, and even Kadesh-Barnea, where the Israelites are said to have spent 38 years, was uninhabited prior to the establishment of the Israelite monarchy.[27] Such elements as could be fitted into the 2nd millennium could equally belong to the 1st, and are consistent with a 1st millennium BCE writer trying to set an old story in Egypt.[28] So while a few scholars, notably Kenneth Kitchen and James K. Hoffmeier, continue to discuss the historicity, or at least plausibility, of the story, arguing that the Egyptian records have been lost or suppressed or that the fleeing Israelites left no archaeological trace or that the large numbers are mistranslated, the majority have abandoned the investigation as "a fruitless pursuit".[29][30]
Read it and weep, myth boy.

ROTFL!That's one opinion, dumbass, one source. You still don't understand what a consensus is.DAMN ARE YOU STUPID.

Here are other opinions
Oct 24

Post by v***@gmail.com
https://www.amazon.com/Israel-Egypt-Evidence-Authenticity-Tradition/dp/019513088X

http://youtu.be/oS6srT1IIak

Post by v***@gmail.com
https://www.amazon.com/Israel-Egypt-Evidence-Authenticity-Tradition/dp/019513088X

http://patternsofevidence.com/film-one/
http://youtu.be/IwnrjU67Dag
http://youtu.be/myX3xdxfB5E
http://youtu.be/uS8bzWTfs7A
http://youtu.be/t8USn3KlekM
http://youtu.be/tzg-d8xF5ro
http://youtu.be/FxHYh3QZbTI
http://www.ancient-origins.net/history-important-events/egypt-remembers-ancient-accounts-great-exodus-002295
http://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/insideisrael/2015/February/Exodus-Documentary-Evidence-that-Demands-a-Verdict
Papyrus confirms Exodus Account
https://ohr.edu/838

All cherry picked Christian apologist crap.

Atlatl Axolotl

2018-01-22 18:35:18 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a controversy,you stupid jackass. It means the experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No idiot, the experts don't disagree, that's why there is a consensus, and that means there is no controversy.

PROVE THE CONSENSUS EXISTS, YOU STUPID Asshole.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Exodus#Historicity
The consensus of modern scholars is that the Bible does not give an accurate account of the origins of Israel.[26] There is no indication that the Israelites ever lived in Ancient Egypt, the Sinai Peninsula shows almost no sign of any occupation for the entire 2nd millennium BCE, and even Kadesh-Barnea, where the Israelites are said to have spent 38 years, was uninhabited prior to the establishment of the Israelite monarchy.[27] Such elements as could be fitted into the 2nd millennium could equally belong to the 1st, and are consistent with a 1st millennium BCE writer trying to set an old story in Egypt.[28] So while a few scholars, notably Kenneth Kitchen and James K. Hoffmeier, continue to discuss the historicity, or at least plausibility, of the story, arguing that the Egyptian records have been lost or suppressed or that the fleeing Israelites left no archaeological trace or that the large numbers are mistranslated, the majority have abandoned the investigation as "a fruitless pursuit".[29][30]
Read it and weep, myth boy.

ROTFL!That's one opinion, dumbass, one source. You still don't understand what a consensus is.DAMN ARE YOU STUPID.

Here are other opinions
Oct 24

Post by v***@gmail.com
https://www.amazon.com/Israel-Egypt-Evidence-Authenticity-Tradition/dp/019513088X

http://youtu.be/oS6srT1IIak

Post by v***@gmail.com
https://www.amazon.com/Israel-Egypt-Evidence-Authenticity-Tradition/dp/019513088X

I'm curious about something here.

You list six and three quarters hours of videos.
You sat down and watched all that?

Care to summarize them for us?

(also a 280 page book, listed twice, and a dead link)

AA

Tim

2018-01-22 18:40:39 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a controversy,you stupid jackass. It means the experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No idiot, the experts don't disagree, that's why there is a consensus, and that means there is no controversy.

PROVE THE CONSENSUS EXISTS, YOU STUPID Asshole.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Exodus#Historicity
The consensus of modern scholars is that the Bible does not give an accurate account of the origins of Israel.[26] There is no indication that the Israelites ever lived in Ancient Egypt, the Sinai Peninsula shows almost no sign of any occupation for the entire 2nd millennium BCE, and even Kadesh-Barnea, where the Israelites are said to have spent 38 years, was uninhabited prior to the establishment of the Israelite monarchy.[27] Such elements as could be fitted into the 2nd millennium could equally belong to the 1st, and are consistent with a 1st millennium BCE writer trying to set an old story in Egypt.[28] So while a few scholars, notably Kenneth Kitchen and James K. Hoffmeier, continue to discuss the historicity, or at least plausibility, of the story, arguing that the Egyptian records have been lost or suppressed or that the fleeing Israelites left no archaeological trace or that the large numbers are mistranslated, the majority have abandoned the investigation as "a fruitless pursuit".[29][30]
Read it and weep, myth boy.

ROTFL!That's one opinion, dumbass, one source. You still don't understand what a consensus is.DAMN ARE YOU STUPID.

Here are other opinions
Oct 24

Post by v***@gmail.com
https://www.amazon.com/Israel-Egypt-Evidence-Authenticity-Tradition/dp/019513088X

http://youtu.be/oS6srT1IIak

Post by v***@gmail.com
https://www.amazon.com/Israel-Egypt-Evidence-Authenticity-Tradition/dp/019513088X

I'm curious about something here.
You list six and three quarters hours of videos.
You sat down and watched all that?
Care to summarize them for us?

I can: cherry picked Christian apologist crap.

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
(also a 280 page book, listed twice,

Mad joe can't count or read.

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
and a dead link)

That was to his brain.

A***@yahoo.com

2018-01-22 19:29:31 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a controversy,you stupid jackass. It means the experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No idiot, the experts don't disagree, that's why there is a consensus, and that means there is no controversy.

PROVE THE CONSENSUS EXISTS, YOU STUPID Asshole.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Exodus#Historicity
The consensus of modern scholars is that the Bible does not give an accurate account of the origins of Israel.[26] There is no indication that the Israelites ever lived in Ancient Egypt, the Sinai Peninsula shows almost no sign of any occupation for the entire 2nd millennium BCE, and even Kadesh-Barnea, where the Israelites are said to have spent 38 years, was uninhabited prior to the establishment of the Israelite monarchy.[27] Such elements as could be fitted into the 2nd millennium could equally belong to the 1st, and are consistent with a 1st millennium BCE writer trying to set an old story in Egypt.[28] So while a few scholars, notably Kenneth Kitchen and James K. Hoffmeier, continue to discuss the historicity, or at least plausibility, of the story, arguing that the Egyptian records have been lost or suppressed or that the fleeing Israelites left no archaeological trace or that the large numbers are mistranslated, the majority have abandoned the investigation as "a fruitless pursuit".[29][30]
Read it and weep, myth boy.

ROTFL!That's one opinion, dumbass, one source. You still don't understand what a consensus is.DAMN ARE YOU STUPID.

Here are other opinions
Oct 24

Post by v***@gmail.com
https://www.amazon.com/Israel-Egypt-Evidence-Authenticity-Tradition/dp/019513088X

http://youtu.be/oS6srT1IIak

Post by v***@gmail.com
https://www.amazon.com/Israel-Egypt-Evidence-Authenticity-Tradition/dp/019513088X

I'm curious about something here.
You list six and three quarters hours of videos.
You sat down and watched all that?
Care to summarize them for us?

I can: cherry picked Christian apologist crap.

Christian work may or may not be good. Just putting a label on something doesn't make it bad.

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
(also a 280 page book, listed twice,

Mad joe can't count or read.

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
and a dead link)

That was to his brain.

Tim

2018-01-22 19:49:51 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a controversy,you stupid jackass. It means the experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No idiot, the experts don't disagree, that's why there is a consensus, and that means there is no controversy.

PROVE THE CONSENSUS EXISTS, YOU STUPID Asshole.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Exodus#Historicity
The consensus of modern scholars is that the Bible does not give an accurate account of the origins of Israel.[26] There is no indication that the Israelites ever lived in Ancient Egypt, the Sinai Peninsula shows almost no sign of any occupation for the entire 2nd millennium BCE, and even Kadesh-Barnea, where the Israelites are said to have spent 38 years, was uninhabited prior to the establishment of the Israelite monarchy.[27] Such elements as could be fitted into the 2nd millennium could equally belong to the 1st, and are consistent with a 1st millennium BCE writer trying to set an old story in Egypt.[28] So while a few scholars, notably Kenneth Kitchen and James K. Hoffmeier, continue to discuss the historicity, or at least plausibility, of the story, arguing that the Egyptian records have been lost or suppressed or that the fleeing Israelites left no archaeological trace or that the large numbers are mistranslated, the majority have abandoned the investigation as "a fruitless pursuit".[29][30]
Read it and weep, myth boy.

ROTFL!That's one opinion, dumbass, one source. You still don't understand what a consensus is.DAMN ARE YOU STUPID.

Here are other opinions
Oct 24

Post by v***@gmail.com
https://www.amazon.com/Israel-Egypt-Evidence-Authenticity-Tradition/dp/019513088X

http://youtu.be/oS6srT1IIak

Post by v***@gmail.com
https://www.amazon.com/Israel-Egypt-Evidence-Authenticity-Tradition/dp/019513088X

I'm curious about something here.
You list six and three quarters hours of videos.
You sat down and watched all that?
Care to summarize them for us?

I can: cherry picked Christian apologist crap.

Christian work may or may not be good. Just putting a label on something doesn't make it bad.

Given the fact that the consensus among scholars remains, despite those apologist views, those views must be bad. If they weren't, they'd be good. And if that was the case then scholars in the consensus would leave based on the good news. That would constitute a real controversy. If enough of them left left there wouldn't be a controversy anymore, and the consensus would change to: the exodus happened.

So it's not just a label. It's a logical conclusion based on the facts. You don't see that because you lack logic and critical reasoning skills. Instead, you let your emotional attachment to your Christian mythology guide your opinion, and you ignore everything else.

A***@yahoo.com

2018-01-22 20:53:38 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a controversy,you stupid jackass. It means the experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No idiot, the experts don't disagree, that's why there is a consensus, and that means there is no controversy.

PROVE THE CONSENSUS EXISTS, YOU STUPID Asshole.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Exodus#Historicity
The consensus of modern scholars is that the Bible does not give an accurate account of the origins of Israel.[26] There is no indication that the Israelites ever lived in Ancient Egypt, the Sinai Peninsula shows almost no sign of any occupation for the entire 2nd millennium BCE, and even Kadesh-Barnea, where the Israelites are said to have spent 38 years, was uninhabited prior to the establishment of the Israelite monarchy.[27] Such elements as could be fitted into the 2nd millennium could equally belong to the 1st, and are consistent with a 1st millennium BCE writer trying to set an old story in Egypt.[28] So while a few scholars, notably Kenneth Kitchen and James K. Hoffmeier, continue to discuss the historicity, or at least plausibility, of the story, arguing that the Egyptian records have been lost or suppressed or that the fleeing Israelites left no archaeological trace or that the large numbers are mistranslated, the majority have abandoned the investigation as "a fruitless pursuit".[29][30]
Read it and weep, myth boy.

ROTFL!That's one opinion, dumbass, one source. You still don't understand what a consensus is.DAMN ARE YOU STUPID.

Here are other opinions
Oct 24

Post by v***@gmail.com
https://www.amazon.com/Israel-Egypt-Evidence-Authenticity-Tradition/dp/019513088X

http://youtu.be/oS6srT1IIak

Post by v***@gmail.com
https://www.amazon.com/Israel-Egypt-Evidence-Authenticity-Tradition/dp/019513088X

I'm curious about something here.
You list six and three quarters hours of videos.
You sat down and watched all that?
Care to summarize them for us?

I can: cherry picked Christian apologist crap.

Christian work may or may not be good. Just putting a label on something doesn't make it bad.

Given the fact that the consensus among scholars remains, despite those apologist views, those views must be bad. If they weren't, they'd be good. And if that was the case then scholars in the consensus would leave based on the good news. That would constitute a real controversy. If enough of them left left there wouldn't be a controversy anymore, and the consensus would change to: the exodus happened.
So it's not just a label. It's a logical conclusion based on the facts. You don't see that because you lack logic and critical reasoning skills. Instead, you let your emotional attachment to your Christian mythology guide your opinion, and you ignore everything else.

The Wikipedia article that you linked to states,

The consensus of modern scholars is that the Bible does not give an accurate account of the origins of Israel.[26]

But when you check out the footnote [26], you get

Davies, Philip R. (2015). In Search of 'Ancient Israel': A Study in Biblical Origins. Bloomsbury Publishing. ISBN 9780567662996.

When you click on that link it actually reads

“At present time, there is a remarkable consensus among those FEW scholars who have specialized on the the problem of these early settlers. I. Finkelstein, whose fieldwork has been crucial in establishing this consensus….”

So there is no proven consensus. It's just an assertion in regard to the "few" scholars who work on the problem. Further, what weakens this view is that it's based on Israel Finkelstein's work. Finkelstein is a minimalist and ignores all the bulk of past and present work.

So much for that.

Tim

2018-01-22 21:12:32 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a controversy,you stupid jackass. It means the experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No idiot, the experts don't disagree, that's why there is a consensus, and that means there is no controversy.

PROVE THE CONSENSUS EXISTS, YOU STUPID Asshole.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Exodus#Historicity
The consensus of modern scholars is that the Bible does not give an accurate account of the origins of Israel.[26] There is no indication that the Israelites ever lived in Ancient Egypt, the Sinai Peninsula shows almost no sign of any occupation for the entire 2nd millennium BCE, and even Kadesh-Barnea, where the Israelites are said to have spent 38 years, was uninhabited prior to the establishment of the Israelite monarchy.[27] Such elements as could be fitted into the 2nd millennium could equally belong to the 1st, and are consistent with a 1st millennium BCE writer trying to set an old story in Egypt.[28] So while a few scholars, notably Kenneth Kitchen and James K. Hoffmeier, continue to discuss the historicity, or at least plausibility, of the story, arguing that the Egyptian records have been lost or suppressed or that the fleeing Israelites left no archaeological trace or that the large numbers are mistranslated, the majority have abandoned the investigation as "a fruitless pursuit".[29][30]
Read it and weep, myth boy.

ROTFL!That's one opinion, dumbass, one source. You still don't understand what a consensus is.DAMN ARE YOU STUPID.

Here are other opinions
Oct 24

Post by v***@gmail.com
https://www.amazon.com/Israel-Egypt-Evidence-Authenticity-Tradition/dp/019513088X

http://youtu.be/oS6srT1IIak

Post by v***@gmail.com
https://www.amazon.com/Israel-Egypt-Evidence-Authenticity-Tradition/dp/019513088X

I'm curious about something here.
You list six and three quarters hours of videos.
You sat down and watched all that?
Care to summarize them for us?

I can: cherry picked Christian apologist crap.

Christian work may or may not be good. Just putting a label on something doesn't make it bad.

Given the fact that the consensus among scholars remains, despite those apologist views, those views must be bad. If they weren't, they'd be good. And if that was the case then scholars in the consensus would leave based on the good news. That would constitute a real controversy. If enough of them left left there wouldn't be a controversy anymore, and the consensus would change to: the exodus happened.
So it's not just a label. It's a logical conclusion based on the facts. You don't see that because you lack logic and critical reasoning skills. Instead, you let your emotional attachment to your Christian mythology guide your opinion, and you ignore everything else.

The Wikipedia article that you linked to states,
The consensus of modern scholars is that the Bible does not give an accurate account of the origins of Israel.[26]
But when you check out the footnote [26], you get
Davies, Philip R. (2015). In Search of 'Ancient Israel': A Study in Biblical Origins. Bloomsbury Publishing. ISBN 9780567662996.
When you click on that link it actually reads
“At present time, there is a remarkable consensus among those FEW scholars who have specialized on the the problem of these early settlers. I. Finkelstein, whose fieldwork has been crucial in establishing this consensus….”
So there is no proven consensus. It's just an assertion in regard to the "few" scholars who work on the problem. Further, what weakens this view is that it's based on Israel Finkelstein's work. Finkelstein is a minimalist and ignores all the bulk of past and present work.

You need to demonstrate that.

Post by A***@yahoo.com
So much for that.

That's flawed logic. You are suggesting that there needs to be a great number of scholars for there to be a consensus - that consensus depends on the number of scholars and not on agreement among them. But that's not the case. It only takes two people to form a consensus between those two people.

Of course with so few scholars, according to your "logic" there can be no consensus that there was an exodus.

v***@gmail.com

2018-01-22 21:59:49 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a controversy,you stupid jackass. It means the experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No idiot, the experts don't disagree, that's why there is a consensus, and that means there is no controversy.

PROVE THE CONSENSUS EXISTS, YOU STUPID Asshole.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Exodus#Historicity
The consensus of modern scholars is that the Bible does not give an accurate account of the origins of Israel.[26] There is no indication that the Israelites ever lived in Ancient Egypt, the Sinai Peninsula shows almost no sign of any occupation for the entire 2nd millennium BCE, and even Kadesh-Barnea, where the Israelites are said to have spent 38 years, was uninhabited prior to the establishment of the Israelite monarchy.[27] Such elements as could be fitted into the 2nd millennium could equally belong to the 1st, and are consistent with a 1st millennium BCE writer trying to set an old story in Egypt.[28] So while a few scholars, notably Kenneth Kitchen and James K. Hoffmeier, continue to discuss the historicity, or at least plausibility, of the story, arguing that the Egyptian records have been lost or suppressed or that the fleeing Israelites left no archaeological trace or that the large numbers are mistranslated, the majority have abandoned the investigation as "a fruitless pursuit".[29][30]
Read it and weep, myth boy.

ROTFL!That's one opinion, dumbass, one source. You still don't understand what a consensus is.DAMN ARE YOU STUPID.

Here are other opinions
Oct 24

Post by v***@gmail.com
https://www.amazon.com/Israel-Egypt-Evidence-Authenticity-Tradition/dp/019513088X

http://youtu.be/oS6srT1IIak

Post by v***@gmail.com
https://www.amazon.com/Israel-Egypt-Evidence-Authenticity-Tradition/dp/019513088X

I'm curious about something here.
You list six and three quarters hours of videos.
You sat down and watched all that?
Care to summarize them for us?

I can: cherry picked Christian apologist crap.

EVIDENCE????????????????????

Tim

2018-01-22 23:33:47 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a controversy,you stupid jackass. It means the experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No idiot, the experts don't disagree, that's why there is a consensus, and that means there is no controversy.

PROVE THE CONSENSUS EXISTS, YOU STUPID Asshole.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Exodus#Historicity
The consensus of modern scholars is that the Bible does not give an accurate account of the origins of Israel.[26] There is no indication that the Israelites ever lived in Ancient Egypt, the Sinai Peninsula shows almost no sign of any occupation for the entire 2nd millennium BCE, and even Kadesh-Barnea, where the Israelites are said to have spent 38 years, was uninhabited prior to the establishment of the Israelite monarchy.[27] Such elements as could be fitted into the 2nd millennium could equally belong to the 1st, and are consistent with a 1st millennium BCE writer trying to set an old story in Egypt.[28] So while a few scholars, notably Kenneth Kitchen and James K. Hoffmeier, continue to discuss the historicity, or at least plausibility, of the story, arguing that the Egyptian records have been lost or suppressed or that the fleeing Israelites left no archaeological trace or that the large numbers are mistranslated, the majority have abandoned the investigation as "a fruitless pursuit".[29][30]
Read it and weep, myth boy.

ROTFL!That's one opinion, dumbass, one source. You still don't understand what a consensus is.DAMN ARE YOU STUPID.

Here are other opinions
Oct 24

Post by v***@gmail.com
https://www.amazon.com/Israel-Egypt-Evidence-Authenticity-Tradition/dp/019513088X

http://youtu.be/oS6srT1IIak

Post by v***@gmail.com
https://www.amazon.com/Israel-Egypt-Evidence-Authenticity-Tradition/dp/019513088X

I'm curious about something here.
You list six and three quarters hours of videos.
You sat down and watched all that?
Care to summarize them for us?

I can: cherry picked Christian apologist crap.

EVIDENCE????????????????????

Check the sources, moron.

v***@gmail.com

2018-01-22 22:00:55 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a controversy,you stupid jackass. It means the experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No idiot, the experts don't disagree, that's why there is a consensus, and that means there is no controversy.

PROVE THE CONSENSUS EXISTS, YOU STUPID Asshole.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Exodus#Historicity
The consensus of modern scholars is that the Bible does not give an accurate account of the origins of Israel.[26] There is no indication that the Israelites ever lived in Ancient Egypt, the Sinai Peninsula shows almost no sign of any occupation for the entire 2nd millennium BCE, and even Kadesh-Barnea, where the Israelites are said to have spent 38 years, was uninhabited prior to the establishment of the Israelite monarchy.[27] Such elements as could be fitted into the 2nd millennium could equally belong to the 1st, and are consistent with a 1st millennium BCE writer trying to set an old story in Egypt.[28] So while a few scholars, notably Kenneth Kitchen and James K. Hoffmeier, continue to discuss the historicity, or at least plausibility, of the story, arguing that the Egyptian records have been lost or suppressed or that the fleeing Israelites left no archaeological trace or that the large numbers are mistranslated, the majority have abandoned the investigation as "a fruitless pursuit".[29][30]
Read it and weep, myth boy.

ROTFL!That's one opinion, dumbass, one source. You still don't understand what a consensus is.DAMN ARE YOU STUPID.

Here are other opinions
Oct 24

Post by v***@gmail.com
https://www.amazon.com/Israel-Egypt-Evidence-Authenticity-Tradition/dp/019513088X

http://youtu.be/oS6srT1IIak

Post by v***@gmail.com
https://www.amazon.com/Israel-Egypt-Evidence-Authenticity-Tradition/dp/019513088X

I'm curious about something here.
You list six and three quarters hours of videos.
You sat down and watched all that?
Care to summarize them for us?
(also a 280 page book, listed twice, and a dead link)
AA

I watched enough to know what the evidence is.

Atlatl Axolotl

2018-01-22 22:03:45 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a controversy,you stupid jackass. It means the experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No idiot, the experts don't disagree, that's why there is a consensus, and that means there is no controversy.

PROVE THE CONSENSUS EXISTS, YOU STUPID Asshole.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Exodus#Historicity
The consensus of modern scholars is that the Bible does not give an accurate account of the origins of Israel.[26] There is no indication that the Israelites ever lived in Ancient Egypt, the Sinai Peninsula shows almost no sign of any occupation for the entire 2nd millennium BCE, and even Kadesh-Barnea, where the Israelites are said to have spent 38 years, was uninhabited prior to the establishment of the Israelite monarchy.[27] Such elements as could be fitted into the 2nd millennium could equally belong to the 1st, and are consistent with a 1st millennium BCE writer trying to set an old story in Egypt.[28] So while a few scholars, notably Kenneth Kitchen and James K. Hoffmeier, continue to discuss the historicity, or at least plausibility, of the story, arguing that the Egyptian records have been lost or suppressed or that the fleeing Israelites left no archaeological trace or that the large numbers are mistranslated, the majority have abandoned the investigation as "a fruitless pursuit".[29][30]
Read it and weep, myth boy.

ROTFL!That's one opinion, dumbass, one source. You still don't understand what a consensus is.DAMN ARE YOU STUPID.

Here are other opinions
Oct 24

Post by v***@gmail.com
https://www.amazon.com/Israel-Egypt-Evidence-Authenticity-Tradition/dp/019513088X

http://youtu.be/oS6srT1IIak

Post by v***@gmail.com
https://www.amazon.com/Israel-Egypt-Evidence-Authenticity-Tradition/dp/019513088X

.> > I'm curious about something here.
.> > You list six and three quarters hours of videos.
.> > You sat down and watched all that?
.> > Care to summarize them for us?
.> > (also a 280 page book, listed twice, and a dead link)

.> I watched enough to know what the evidence is.

Oh? Well then, good.

So why don't you go ahead and summarize the salient points for us, as I requested:

AA

v***@gmail.com

2018-01-22 22:11:38 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a controversy,you stupid jackass. It means the experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No idiot, the experts don't disagree, that's why there is a consensus, and that means there is no controversy.

PROVE THE CONSENSUS EXISTS, YOU STUPID Asshole.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Exodus#Historicity
The consensus of modern scholars is that the Bible does not give an accurate account of the origins of Israel.[26] There is no indication that the Israelites ever lived in Ancient Egypt, the Sinai Peninsula shows almost no sign of any occupation for the entire 2nd millennium BCE, and even Kadesh-Barnea, where the Israelites are said to have spent 38 years, was uninhabited prior to the establishment of the Israelite monarchy.[27] Such elements as could be fitted into the 2nd millennium could equally belong to the 1st, and are consistent with a 1st millennium BCE writer trying to set an old story in Egypt.[28] So while a few scholars, notably Kenneth Kitchen and James K. Hoffmeier, continue to discuss the historicity, or at least plausibility, of the story, arguing that the Egyptian records have been lost or suppressed or that the fleeing Israelites left no archaeological trace or that the large numbers are mistranslated, the majority have abandoned the investigation as "a fruitless pursuit".[29][30]
Read it and weep, myth boy.

ROTFL!That's one opinion, dumbass, one source. You still don't understand what a consensus is.DAMN ARE YOU STUPID.

Here are other opinions
Oct 24

Post by v***@gmail.com
https://www.amazon.com/Israel-Egypt-Evidence-Authenticity-Tradition/dp/019513088X

http://youtu.be/oS6srT1IIak

Post by v***@gmail.com
https://www.amazon.com/Israel-Egypt-Evidence-Authenticity-Tradition/dp/019513088X

.> I watched enough to know what the evidence is.
Oh? Well then, good.
AA

Are you admitting you can't do that for yourself?

Atlatl Axolotl

2018-01-22 22:49:22 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a controversy,you stupid jackass. It means the experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No idiot, the experts don't disagree, that's why there is a consensus, and that means there is no controversy.

PROVE THE CONSENSUS EXISTS, YOU STUPID Asshole.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Exodus#Historicity
The consensus of modern scholars is that the Bible does not give an accurate account of the origins of Israel.[26] There is no indication that the Israelites ever lived in Ancient Egypt, the Sinai Peninsula shows almost no sign of any occupation for the entire 2nd millennium BCE, and even Kadesh-Barnea, where the Israelites are said to have spent 38 years, was uninhabited prior to the establishment of the Israelite monarchy.[27] Such elements as could be fitted into the 2nd millennium could equally belong to the 1st, and are consistent with a 1st millennium BCE writer trying to set an old story in Egypt.[28] So while a few scholars, notably Kenneth Kitchen and James K. Hoffmeier, continue to discuss the historicity, or at least plausibility, of the story, arguing that the Egyptian records have been lost or suppressed or that the fleeing Israelites left no archaeological trace or that the large numbers are mistranslated, the majority have abandoned the investigation as "a fruitless pursuit".[29][30]
Read it and weep, myth boy.

ROTFL!That's one opinion, dumbass, one source. You still don't understand what a consensus is.DAMN ARE YOU STUPID.

Here are other opinions
Oct 24

Post by v***@gmail.com
https://www.amazon.com/Israel-Egypt-Evidence-Authenticity-Tradition/dp/019513088X

http://youtu.be/oS6srT1IIak

Post by v***@gmail.com
https://www.amazon.com/Israel-Egypt-Evidence-Authenticity-Tradition/dp/019513088X

.> I watched enough to know what the evidence is.
Oh? Well then, good.
AA

.> Are you admitting you can't do that for yourself?

I'm saying that you're doing the Bob.

AA

Cloud Hobbit

2018-01-27 02:57:22 UTC

Are you admitting you can't do that for yourself?
__________

No, you are Art.

TT Liams

2018-01-27 03:03:53 UTC

On Fri, 26 Jan 2018 18:57:22 -0800 (PST), Cloud Hobbit

Post by v***@gmail.com
Are you admitting you can't do that for yourself?
__________
No, you are Art.

Science know's a lot but art know's better. Think about it.

v***@gmail.com

2018-01-27 05:46:42 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
Are you admitting you can't do that for yourself?
__________
No, you are Art.

You have a screw loose.

Tim

2018-01-22 23:34:17 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a controversy,you stupid jackass. It means the experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No idiot, the experts don't disagree, that's why there is a consensus, and that means there is no controversy.

PROVE THE CONSENSUS EXISTS, YOU STUPID Asshole.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Exodus#Historicity
The consensus of modern scholars is that the Bible does not give an accurate account of the origins of Israel.[26] There is no indication that the Israelites ever lived in Ancient Egypt, the Sinai Peninsula shows almost no sign of any occupation for the entire 2nd millennium BCE, and even Kadesh-Barnea, where the Israelites are said to have spent 38 years, was uninhabited prior to the establishment of the Israelite monarchy.[27] Such elements as could be fitted into the 2nd millennium could equally belong to the 1st, and are consistent with a 1st millennium BCE writer trying to set an old story in Egypt.[28] So while a few scholars, notably Kenneth Kitchen and James K. Hoffmeier, continue to discuss the historicity, or at least plausibility, of the story, arguing that the Egyptian records have been lost or suppressed or that the fleeing Israelites left no archaeological trace or that the large numbers are mistranslated, the majority have abandoned the investigation as "a fruitless pursuit".[29][30]
Read it and weep, myth boy.

ROTFL!That's one opinion, dumbass, one source. You still don't understand what a consensus is.DAMN ARE YOU STUPID.

Here are other opinions
Oct 24

Post by v***@gmail.com
https://www.amazon.com/Israel-Egypt-Evidence-Authenticity-Tradition/dp/019513088X

http://youtu.be/oS6srT1IIak

Post by v***@gmail.com
https://www.amazon.com/Israel-Egypt-Evidence-Authenticity-Tradition/dp/019513088X

I'm curious about something here.
You list six and three quarters hours of videos.
You sat down and watched all that?
Care to summarize them for us?
(also a 280 page book, listed twice, and a dead link)
AA

I watched enough to know what the evidence is.

LOL! You watched a book!

v***@gmail.com

2018-01-22 22:03:18 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a controversy,you stupid jackass. It means the experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No idiot, the experts don't disagree, that's why there is a consensus, and that means there is no controversy.

PROVE THE CONSENSUS EXISTS, YOU STUPID Asshole.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Exodus#Historicity
The consensus of modern scholars is that the Bible does not give an accurate account of the origins of Israel.[26] There is no indication that the Israelites ever lived in Ancient Egypt, the Sinai Peninsula shows almost no sign of any occupation for the entire 2nd millennium BCE, and even Kadesh-Barnea, where the Israelites are said to have spent 38 years, was uninhabited prior to the establishment of the Israelite monarchy.[27] Such elements as could be fitted into the 2nd millennium could equally belong to the 1st, and are consistent with a 1st millennium BCE writer trying to set an old story in Egypt.[28] So while a few scholars, notably Kenneth Kitchen and James K. Hoffmeier, continue to discuss the historicity, or at least plausibility, of the story, arguing that the Egyptian records have been lost or suppressed or that the fleeing Israelites left no archaeological trace or that the large numbers are mistranslated, the majority have abandoned the investigation as "a fruitless pursuit".[29][30]
Read it and weep, myth boy.

ROTFL!That's one opinion, dumbass, one source. You still don't understand what a consensus is.DAMN ARE YOU STUPID.

Here are other opinions
Oct 24

Post by v***@gmail.com
https://www.amazon.com/Israel-Egypt-Evidence-Authenticity-Tradition/dp/019513088X

http://youtu.be/oS6srT1IIak

Post by v***@gmail.com
https://www.amazon.com/Israel-Egypt-Evidence-Authenticity-Tradition/dp/019513088X

I'm curious about something here.
You list six and three quarters hours of videos.
You sat down and watched all that?
Care to summarize them for us?

I did that in my subject line for the OP, idiot.
"Exodus Controversy".

Atlatl Axolotl

2018-01-22 22:48:34 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a controversy,you stupid jackass. It means the experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No idiot, the experts don't disagree, that's why there is a consensus, and that means there is no controversy.

PROVE THE CONSENSUS EXISTS, YOU STUPID Asshole.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Exodus#Historicity
The consensus of modern scholars is that the Bible does not give an accurate account of the origins of Israel.[26] There is no indication that the Israelites ever lived in Ancient Egypt, the Sinai Peninsula shows almost no sign of any occupation for the entire 2nd millennium BCE, and even Kadesh-Barnea, where the Israelites are said to have spent 38 years, was uninhabited prior to the establishment of the Israelite monarchy.[27] Such elements as could be fitted into the 2nd millennium could equally belong to the 1st, and are consistent with a 1st millennium BCE writer trying to set an old story in Egypt.[28] So while a few scholars, notably Kenneth Kitchen and James K. Hoffmeier, continue to discuss the historicity, or at least plausibility, of the story, arguing that the Egyptian records have been lost or suppressed or that the fleeing Israelites left no archaeological trace or that the large numbers are mistranslated, the majority have abandoned the investigation as "a fruitless pursuit".[29][30]
Read it and weep, myth boy.

ROTFL!That's one opinion, dumbass, one source. You still don't understand what a consensus is.DAMN ARE YOU STUPID.

Here are other opinions
Oct 24

Post by v***@gmail.com
https://www.amazon.com/Israel-Egypt-Evidence-Authenticity-Tradition/dp/019513088X

http://youtu.be/oS6srT1IIak

Post by v***@gmail.com
https://www.amazon.com/Israel-Egypt-Evidence-Authenticity-Tradition/dp/019513088X

I'm curious about something here.
You list six and three quarters hours of videos.
You sat down and watched all that?
Care to summarize them for us?

I did that in my subject line for the OP, idiot.
"Exodus Controversy".

Lessee here... someone who thinks all the important points
that were made in almost seven hours of video can be
satisfactorily summed up in three words is calling me an idiot.

Do I have that right?

AA

AA

v***@gmail.com

2018-01-22 22:05:05 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a controversy,you stupid jackass. It means the experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No idiot, the experts don't disagree, that's why there is a consensus, and that means there is no controversy.

PROVE THE CONSENSUS EXISTS, YOU STUPID Asshole.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Exodus#Historicity
The consensus of modern scholars is that the Bible does not give an accurate account of the origins of Israel.[26] There is no indication that the Israelites ever lived in Ancient Egypt, the Sinai Peninsula shows almost no sign of any occupation for the entire 2nd millennium BCE, and even Kadesh-Barnea, where the Israelites are said to have spent 38 years, was uninhabited prior to the establishment of the Israelite monarchy.[27] Such elements as could be fitted into the 2nd millennium could equally belong to the 1st, and are consistent with a 1st millennium BCE writer trying to set an old story in Egypt.[28] So while a few scholars, notably Kenneth Kitchen and James K. Hoffmeier, continue to discuss the historicity, or at least plausibility, of the story, arguing that the Egyptian records have been lost or suppressed or that the fleeing Israelites left no archaeological trace or that the large numbers are mistranslated, the majority have abandoned the investigation as "a fruitless pursuit".[29][30]
Read it and weep, myth boy.

ROTFL!That's one opinion, dumbass, one source. You still don't understand what a consensus is.DAMN ARE YOU STUPID.

Here are other opinions
Oct 24

Post by v***@gmail.com
https://www.amazon.com/Israel-Egypt-Evidence-Authenticity-Tradition/dp/019513088X

http://youtu.be/oS6srT1IIak

Post by v***@gmail.com
https://www.amazon.com/Israel-Egypt-Evidence-Authenticity-Tradition/dp/019513088X

I'm curious about something here.
You list six and three quarters hours of videos.
You sat down and watched all that?
Care to summarize them for us?
(also a 280 page book, listed twice, and a dead link)
AA

That's a lie. The OP for this thread includes only ONE video.

v***@gmail.com

2018-01-22 22:09:16 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a controversy,you stupid jackass. It means the experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No idiot, the experts don't disagree, that's why there is a consensus, and that means there is no controversy.

PROVE THE CONSENSUS EXISTS, YOU STUPID Asshole.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Exodus#Historicity
The consensus of modern scholars is that the Bible does not give an accurate account of the origins of Israel.[26] There is no indication that the Israelites ever lived in Ancient Egypt, the Sinai Peninsula shows almost no sign of any occupation for the entire 2nd millennium BCE, and even Kadesh-Barnea, where the Israelites are said to have spent 38 years, was uninhabited prior to the establishment of the Israelite monarchy.[27] Such elements as could be fitted into the 2nd millennium could equally belong to the 1st, and are consistent with a 1st millennium BCE writer trying to set an old story in Egypt.[28] So while a few scholars, notably Kenneth Kitchen and James K. Hoffmeier, continue to discuss the historicity, or at least plausibility, of the story, arguing that the Egyptian records have been lost or suppressed or that the fleeing Israelites left no archaeological trace or that the large numbers are mistranslated, the majority have abandoned the investigation as "a fruitless pursuit".[29][30]
Read it and weep, myth boy.

ROTFL!That's one opinion, dumbass, one source. You still don't understand what a consensus is.DAMN ARE YOU STUPID.

Here are other opinions
Oct 24

Post by v***@gmail.com
https://www.amazon.com/Israel-Egypt-Evidence-Authenticity-Tradition/dp/019513088X

http://youtu.be/oS6srT1IIak

Post by v***@gmail.com
https://www.amazon.com/Israel-Egypt-Evidence-Authenticity-Tradition/dp/019513088X

I'm curious about something here.
You list six and three quarters hours of videos.
You sat down and watched all that?
Care to summarize them for us?
(also a 280 page book, listed twice, and a dead link)
AA

ROTFL! The summary is "There is evidence for the exodus."
What the fuck do you think I'm talking about, fool?

Tim

2018-01-22 18:22:45 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a controversy,you stupid jackass. It means the experts disagree. YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No idiot, the experts don't disagree, that's why there is a consensus, and that means there is no controversy.

PROVE THE CONSENSUS EXISTS, YOU STUPID Asshole.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Exodus#Historicity
The consensus of modern scholars is that the Bible does not give an accurate account of the origins of Israel.[26] There is no indication that the Israelites ever lived in Ancient Egypt, the Sinai Peninsula shows almost no sign of any occupation for the entire 2nd millennium BCE, and even Kadesh-Barnea, where the Israelites are said to have spent 38 years, was uninhabited prior to the establishment of the Israelite monarchy.[27] Such elements as could be fitted into the 2nd millennium could equally belong to the 1st, and are consistent with a 1st millennium BCE writer trying to set an old story in Egypt.[28] So while a few scholars, notably Kenneth Kitchen and James K. Hoffmeier, continue to discuss the historicity, or at least plausibility, of the story, arguing that the Egyptian records have been lost or suppressed or that the fleeing Israelites left no archaeological trace or that the large numbers are mistranslated, the majority have abandoned the investigation as "a fruitless pursuit".[29][30]
Read it and weep, myth boy.

ROTFL!That's one opinion, dumbass, one source. You still don't understand what a consensus is.DAMN ARE YOU STUPID.

Wrong, idiot, you can't read. There are 29 footnotes in that section:

Davies 2015, p. 51.
Jump up ^ Redmount 2001, p. 77.
Jump up ^ Moore & Kelle 2011, p. 90.
Jump up ^ Moore & Kelle 2011, pp. 88–89.
Jump up ^ Dever 2001, p. 99.
Jump up ^ Miller 2009, p. 256.
^ Jump up to: a b Kantor 2005, p. 70.
Jump up ^ Cline 2007, p. 74.
Jump up ^ Butzer 1999, p. 297.
Jump up ^ Dever 2003, p. 19.
Jump up ^ Grisanti 2011, pp. 240–46.
Jump up ^ Shaw 2002, p. 313.
^ Jump up to: a b Killebrew 2005, p. 176.
Jump up ^ Pratico & DiVito 1993, pp. 1-32.
^ Jump up to: a b Van Seters 1997, pp. 255ff.
Jump up ^ Soggin 1998, pp. 128–29.
Jump up ^ Finkelstein & Silberman 2002, p. 334.
Jump up ^ Faye 2013, p. 3.
Jump up ^ Meyers 2005, p. 143.
Jump up ^ Hayes & Miller 1986, p. 59.
Jump up ^ Davies 1998, p. 180.
Jump up ^ Killebrew 2005, p. 151.
Jump up ^ Moore & Kelle 2011, p. 81.
Jump up ^ Thompson 1999, p. 74.
Jump up ^ Barmash, 2015 & p.16 fn.10.
Jump up ^ Finkelstein & Silberman 2002, pp. 77–79, 82.
Jump up ^ Killebrew 2005, pp. 175–77.
Jump up ^ Killebrew 2005, p. 152.
Jump up ^ Hoffmeier 2005, pp. 115ff.

There's more than one opinion there, idiot. You can't read, and you've just proved again that you can't count. You're an idiot.

Smiler

2018-01-25 04:07:11 UTC

On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 6:25:26 PM UTC-5,

On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 1:08:13 PM UTC-5,

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.aspx

That's why the subject of the exodus is called a
controversy,you stupid jackass. It means the experts disagree.
YOU ARE TOTALLY RETARDED

No idiot, the experts don't disagree, that's why there is a
consensus, and that means there is no controversy.

PROVE THE CONSENSUS EXISTS, YOU STUPID Asshole.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Exodus#Historicity
The consensus of modern scholars is that the Bible does not give an
accurate account of the origins of Israel.[26] There is no indication
that the Israelites ever lived in Ancient Egypt, the Sinai Peninsula
shows almost no sign of any occupation for the entire 2nd millennium
BCE, and even Kadesh-Barnea, where the Israelites are said to have
spent 38 years, was uninhabited prior to the establishment of the
Israelite monarchy.[27] Such elements as could be fitted into the 2nd
millennium could equally belong to the 1st, and are consistent with a
1st millennium BCE writer trying to set an old story in Egypt.[28] So
while a few scholars, notably Kenneth Kitchen and James K. Hoffmeier,
continue to discuss the historicity, or at least plausibility, of the
story, arguing that the Egyptian records have been lost or suppressed
or that the fleeing Israelites left no archaeological trace or that
the large numbers are mistranslated, the majority have abandoned the
investigation as "a fruitless pursuit".[29][30]
Read it and weep, myth boy.

ROTFL!That's one opinion, dumbass, one source. You still don't
understand what a consensus is.DAMN ARE YOU STUPID.

Davies 2015, p. 51.
Jump up ^ Redmount 2001, p. 77.
Jump up ^ Moore & Kelle 2011, p. 90.
Jump up ^ Moore & Kelle 2011, pp. 88–89.
Jump up ^ Dever 2001, p. 99.
Jump up ^ Miller 2009, p. 256.
^ Jump up to: a b Kantor 2005, p. 70.
Jump up ^ Cline 2007, p. 74.
Jump up ^ Butzer 1999, p. 297.
Jump up ^ Dever 2003, p. 19.
Jump up ^ Grisanti 2011, pp. 240–46.
Jump up ^ Shaw 2002, p. 313.
^ Jump up to: a b Killebrew 2005, p. 176.
Jump up ^ Pratico & DiVito 1993, pp. 1-32.
^ Jump up to: a b Van Seters 1997, pp. 255ff.
Jump up ^ Soggin 1998, pp. 128–29.
Jump up ^ Finkelstein & Silberman 2002, p. 334.
Jump up ^ Faye 2013, p. 3.
Jump up ^ Meyers 2005, p. 143.
Jump up ^ Hayes & Miller 1986, p. 59.
Jump up ^ Davies 1998, p. 180.
Jump up ^ Killebrew 2005, p. 151.
Jump up ^ Moore & Kelle 2011, p. 81.
Jump up ^ Thompson 1999, p. 74.
Jump up ^ Barmash, 2015 & p.16 fn.10.
Jump up ^ Finkelstein & Silberman 2002, pp. 77–79, 82.
Jump up ^ Killebrew 2005, pp. 175–77.
Jump up ^ Killebrew 2005, p. 152.
Jump up ^ Hoffmeier 2005, pp. 115ff.
There's more than one opinion there, idiot. You can't read, and you've
just proved again that you can't count. You're an idiot.

That's 30 references, in ArtyJoe's world.

Gronk

2018-01-26 05:54:40 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.aspx

the truth is that virtually every modern archaeologist who has investigated the story of the Exodus, with very few exceptions, agrees that the way the Bible describes the Exodus is not the way it happened, if it happened at all (Watanabe 2001).
+++
And that is the consensus view. That there is a consensus view shows that there is no real controversy. Just a small group of bible thumpers who want to try and create one.

Does he even bother to read these before posting?

Tim

2018-01-26 07:00:05 UTC

Post by Gronk

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.aspx

Does he even bother to read these before posting?

He can't read.

Yap Honghor

2018-01-26 07:09:16 UTC

Post by Gronk

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.aspx

Does he even bother to read these before posting?

He can't read.

Neither can he count.

v***@gmail.com

2018-01-26 16:48:01 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.aspx

No. A consensus requires that MOST archaeologists say it. That is the view of one man.

TT Liams

2018-01-27 02:38:47 UTC

On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 1:08:13 PM UTC-5,

***@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.
aspx

the truth is that virtually every modern archaeologist who has

investigated the story of the Exodus, with very few exceptions,
agrees that the way the Bible describes the Exodus is not the way it
happened, if it happened at all (Watanabe 2001).

+++
And that is the consensus view.

No. A consensus requires that MOST archaeologists say it. That is the view of one man.

Some ppl say Moses parted the red Sea but that's not true cause god
did.

Cloud Hobbit

2018-01-27 02:45:50 UTC

TTLiams said: Some ppl say Moses parted the red Sea but that's not true cause god
did.
________________

That's your belief. If you can't prove it then that's all it is, a belief.

We know Moses didn't do it because he was a fictional character like Noah and Abraham.

TT Liams

2018-01-27 02:58:48 UTC

On Fri, 26 Jan 2018 18:45:50 -0800 (PST), Cloud Hobbit

Post by Cloud Hobbit
TTLiams said: Some ppl say Moses parted the red Sea but that's not true cause god
did.
________________
That's your belief. If you can't prove it then that's all it is, a belief.
We know Moses didn't do it because he was a fictional character like Noah and Abraham.

Yes & Jesus was descended from Abraham.

Smiler

2018-01-28 03:07:27 UTC

Post by TT Liams
On Fri, 26 Jan 2018 18:45:50 -0800 (PST), Cloud Hobbit

Post by Cloud Hobbit
TTLiams said: Some ppl say Moses parted the red Sea but that's not

true cause god

Post by Cloud Hobbit
did.
________________
That's your belief. If you can't prove it then that's all it is, a

belief.

Post by Cloud Hobbit
We know Moses didn't do it because he was a fictional character

like Noah and Abraham.
Yes & Jesus was descended from Abraham.

Your evidence for that claim is what?
Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.

Yap Honghor

2018-01-27 06:12:46 UTC

On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 1:08:13 PM UTC-5,

http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/08/09/The-Exodus-Controversy.
aspx

the truth is that virtually every modern archaeologist who has

investigated the story of the Exodus, with very few exceptions,
agrees that the way the Bible describes the Exodus is not the way it
happened, if it happened at all (Watanabe 2001).

+++
And that is the consensus view.

No. A consensus requires that MOST archaeologists say it. That is

the view of one man.
Some ppl say Moses parted the red Sea but that's not true cause god
did.

Human can't do such thing, while pixie is imaginary...

Yap Honghor

2018-01-22 13:59:23 UTC