Post by duke Post by Cloud Hobbit
And yet the RCC is hardly any more despicable than the Calvinists in their inhumanity.
The RCC just got power first.
And we also learned directly form Jesus Christ 2000 years ago.
Calvinism originated with the Reformation in Switzerland when Huldrych Zwingli
began preaching what would become the first form of the Reformed doctrine in
Zürich in 1519.
I've proven that to be incorrect already.
Church fathers in the first and second centuries believed in predestination
because it was taught by Jesus, and Peter, and Paul in the New Testament.
You're wrong again. But I don't mind correcting your mistakes.
The unregenerate non-elect will always believe what another unregenerate
non-elect says, whereas the regenerate chosen elect will intrinsically
recognize what the unregenerate non-elect says as a lie. Therefore those
who were predestined for Hell, will still end up in Hell, and those who
are predestined for Heaven are still going to go to Heaven. Nothing in
God's plan will change. For by convincing other unregenerate non-elects
to believe his lies, he is fulfilling that part of God's plan that God
has predestined just for him.
Or, as the Gospel of John very concisely puts it:
"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the
door but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief and a robber.
But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. To him the
gatekeeper opens. The sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep
by name and leads them out. When he has brought out all his own, he
goes before them, and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. A
stranger they will not follow, but they will flee from him, for they do
not know the voice of strangers."