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Robert: Solemnity of the Epiphany of the Lord
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duke
2018-01-07 00:04:54 UTC
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The Magi set out because of a deep desire which prompted them to leave
everything behind and begin a journey. It was as though they had always been
waiting for that "star". (Pope Benedict XVI) Our response to the Father's
offer of salvation is that of the Magi: "to offer gold is to proclaim Christ's
kingship, to offer incense is to adore his Godhead, and to offer myrrh is to
acknowledge his mortality. (St. Odilo of Cluny). Creation responds as well:
"When the king of heaven was born, the heavens knew he was God because they
immediately sent forth a star; the sea knew him because it allowed him to walk
upon it; the earth knew him because it trembled when he died; the sun knew him
because it hid the rays of it's light". (St Gregory the Great). The
manifestation of the Son of God to the world begs belief from us, by which we
will be led home by another way.

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Cloud Hobbit
2018-01-07 02:28:57 UTC
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When the king of heaven was born, the heavens knew he was God because they
immediately sent forth a star; the sea knew him because it allowed him to walk
upon it; the earth knew him because it trembled when he died; the sun knew him
because it hid the rays of it's light". (St Gregory the Great). The
manifestation of the Son of God to the world begs belief from us, by which we
will be led home by another way.

the dukester, American-Moron

That's the story, but so is Harry Potter or the Wizard of Oz.

All of which belong in the fiction section.
Robert
2018-01-07 05:00:46 UTC
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The Magi set out because of a deep desire which prompted them to leave
everything behind and begin a journey. It was as though they had always been
waiting for that "star". (Pope Benedict XVI) Our response to the Father's
offer of salvation is that of the Magi: "to offer gold is to proclaim Christ's
kingship, to offer incense is to adore his Godhead, and to offer myrrh is to
"When the king of heaven was born, the heavens knew he was God because they
immediately sent forth a star; the sea knew him because it allowed him to walk
upon it; the earth knew him because it trembled when he died; the sun knew him
because it hid the rays of it's light". (St Gregory the Great). The
manifestation of the Son of God to the world begs belief from us, by which we
will be led home by another way.
the dukester, American-American
Duke, the Magi, the astronomers ever since the time of Daniel who had
great fame for his knowledge of the stars and his prophecies were
looking for that star as prophesied by Daniel, all the astronomers
kept their eye open for it just to see if Daniel as all that people of
his day said that he was. Well as you know, it was true, but contrary
to movies, and religious stories they did not show up at the birth of
Christ, but later as he was a young child an no babe. Which is why the
ruler of Israel killed all male children from the age of two down to
birth around the area where Christ lived.

I do not know anywhere where it says Jesus was King of heaven, do you?
duke
2018-01-07 14:16:28 UTC
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The Magi set out because of a deep desire which prompted them to leave
everything behind and begin a journey. It was as though they had always been
waiting for that "star". (Pope Benedict XVI) Our response to the Father's
offer of salvation is that of the Magi: "to offer gold is to proclaim Christ's
kingship, to offer incense is to adore his Godhead, and to offer myrrh is to
"When the king of heaven was born, the heavens knew he was God because they
immediately sent forth a star; the sea knew him because it allowed him to walk
upon it; the earth knew him because it trembled when he died; the sun knew him
because it hid the rays of it's light". (St Gregory the Great). The
manifestation of the Son of God to the world begs belief from us, by which we
will be led home by another way.
Duke, the Magi, the astronomers ever since the time of Daniel who had
great fame for his knowledge of the stars and his prophecies were
looking for that star as prophesied by Daniel, all the astronomers
kept their eye open for it just to see if Daniel as all that people of
his day said that he was. Well as you know, it was true, but contrary
to movies, and religious stories they did not show up at the birth of
Christ, but later as he was a young child an no babe. Which is why the
ruler of Israel killed all male children from the age of two down to
birth around the area where Christ lived.
Yes, you're starting to learn. Nor was he born on 12/25 or in a stable. It's
good you're starting to understand that God's word in not meant to inform but to
form, not to teach the Jews as in the OT but to guide man to follow Jesus in the
NT.

And thus we are given by Jesus the Holy Mass, 7 sacraments and to feed and
clothe the needy in love.
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I do not know anywhere where it says Jesus was King of heaven, do you?
A mistake in thinking scripture is meant to teach all things. Unfortunately
it's sad that so many people take that position that "if it doesn't say that,
you can't say that".

The sign on the cross says "The King of the Jews" and we know he is God.


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Tim
2018-01-07 14:49:48 UTC
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The Magi set out because of a deep desire which prompted them to leave
everything behind and begin a journey. It was as though they had always been
waiting for that "star". (Pope Benedict XVI) Our response to the Father's
offer of salvation is that of the Magi: "to offer gold is to proclaim Christ's
kingship, to offer incense is to adore his Godhead, and to offer myrrh is to
"When the king of heaven was born, the heavens knew he was God because they
immediately sent forth a star; the sea knew him because it allowed him to walk
upon it; the earth knew him because it trembled when he died; the sun knew him
because it hid the rays of it's light". (St Gregory the Great). The
manifestation of the Son of God to the world begs belief from us, by which we
will be led home by another way.
Duke, the Magi, the astronomers ever since the time of Daniel who had
great fame for his knowledge of the stars and his prophecies were
looking for that star as prophesied by Daniel, all the astronomers
kept their eye open for it just to see if Daniel as all that people of
his day said that he was. Well as you know, it was true, but contrary
to movies, and religious stories they did not show up at the birth of
Christ, but later as he was a young child an no babe. Which is why the
ruler of Israel killed all male children from the age of two down to
birth around the area where Christ lived.
Yes, you're starting to learn. Nor was he born on 12/25
So why did you lie and say he was, you fat dolt?
Teresita
2018-01-07 15:09:14 UTC
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The sign on the cross says "The King of the Jews" and we know he is God.
That was Pilate fucking with the Jews because he was annoyed at them for
making him execute the lunatic/liar who fancied himself lord. The Jews
said, "We have no king but Caesar."

JOHN 19:

[21] Then said the chief priests of the Jews to Pilate, Write not, The
King of the Jews; but that he said, I am King of the Jews.

[22] Pilate answered, What I have written I have written.
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astarte
2018-01-07 17:25:52 UTC
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The sign on the cross says "The King of the Jews" and we know he is God.
That was Pilate fucking with the Jews because he was annoyed at them for
making him execute the lunatic/liar who fancied himself lord. The Jews
said, "We have no king but Caesar."
Actually, that is xians blaming the Jews for their failed messiah. The
Romans had no problem killing those pretending to be the king, if they had
not appointed them. OTOH, the Jews could have just stoned the boy for
blasphemy. Then there is that claimed night time meeting, which was
against Jewish custom/law. No, if one study;'s history & takes notes, the
early church fathers lied in order to generate belief in their pretensions.
On indication of this is xians were consider Jews by the Romans, & hid
under that name until the 70 CE rebellion. All of a sudden, xians had
never been Jews in spite of their association for 70 years. History is not
kind to the Greek texts.
Unknown author, with forged/inserted text. Meant to support a claim that
was unknown to the general populations when it should have been according
to xians. Something about an eclipse over Jerusalem comes to mind. An
eclipse no one noticed at the time. & the zombies, sheesh. The Legionar's
would have had a fit & wrote about it.
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[21] Then said the chief priests of the Jews to Pilate, Write not, The
King of the Jews; but that he said, I am King of the Jews.
[22] Pilate answered, What I have written I have written.
Haven't seen that on a history site, nor his biography
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"Now, it is a disgraceful and dangerous thing for an infidel to hear a
Christian, presumably
giving the meaning of Holy Scripture, talking nonsense on these topics; and
we should take all
means to prevent such an embarrassing situation, in which people show up
vast ignorance in
a Christian and laugh it to scorn."

-- Augustine, The Literal Meaning of Genesis
duke
2018-01-08 12:55:24 UTC
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The sign on the cross says "The King of the Jews" and we know he is God.
That was Pilate fucking with the Jews because he was annoyed at them for
making him execute the lunatic/liar who fancied himself lord. The Jews
said, "We have no king but Caesar."
[21] Then said the chief priests of the Jews to Pilate, Write not, The
King of the Jews; but that he said, I am King of the Jews.
[22] Pilate answered, What I have written I have written.
But Jesus didn't say he was King of the Jews. The chief priest lied that he
did.

Jesus's answer was:

John 18:37New International Version (NIV)
37 “You are a king, then!” said Pilate.
Jesus answered, “You say that I am a king. In fact, the reason I was born and
came into the world is to testify to the truth. Everyone on the side of truth
listens to me.”

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Teresita
2018-01-09 02:45:10 UTC
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But Jesus didn't say he was King of the Jews. The chief priest lied that he
did.
"And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me."
-- Jesus
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duke
2018-01-10 23:35:39 UTC
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But Jesus didn't say he was King of the Jews. The chief priest lied that he
did.
"And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me."
-- Jesus
He told Pilate "so you say".

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Teresita
2018-01-11 01:36:53 UTC
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But Jesus didn't say he was King of the Jews. The chief priest lied that he
did.
"And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me."
-- Jesus
He told Pilate "so you say".
That wasn't Jesus talking to Pilate, it was Jesus talking to his disciples.
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duke
2018-01-11 13:00:16 UTC
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But Jesus didn't say he was King of the Jews. The chief priest lied that he
did.
"And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me."
-- Jesus
He told Pilate "so you say".
That wasn't Jesus talking to Pilate, it was Jesus talking to his disciples.
Matthew 27:11New International Version (NIV)
Jesus Before Pilate
11 Meanwhile Jesus stood before the governor, and the governor asked him, “Are
you the king of the Jews?”
“You have said so,” Jesus replied.

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the late Marie Therese LaBourgeois
2018-01-09 14:41:59 UTC
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The sign on the cross says "The King of the Jews" and we know he is God.
That was Pilate fucking with the Jews because he was annoyed at them for
making him execute the lunatic/liar who fancied himself lord. The Jews
said, "We have no king but Caesar."
[21] Then said the chief priests of the Jews to Pilate, Write not, The
King of the Jews; but that he said, I am King of the Jews.
[22] Pilate answered, What I have written I have written.
But Jesus didn't say he was King of the Jews. The chief priest lied that he
did.
Prove it, fat boy.
Michael Christ
2018-01-09 22:58:22 UTC
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The sign on the cross says "The King of the Jews" and we know he is God.
That was Pilate fucking with the Jews because he was annoyed at them for
making him execute the lunatic/liar who fancied himself lord.  The Jews
said, "We have no king but Caesar."
[21] Then said the chief priests of the Jews to Pilate, Write not, The
King of the Jews; but that he said, I am King of the Jews.
[22] Pilate answered, What I have written I have written.
But Jesus didn't say he was King of the Jews.  The chief priest  lied
that he
did.
Prove it, fat boy.
Yeah, Earl, prove it, fat boy.

Or go and get some exercise and stop shuffling down to McDonalds in
morning and coming back late at night. By the way, I will not tell you
where the key for the padlock on the fridge is! So stop asking!!!





Michael Christ
duke
2018-01-11 13:01:30 UTC
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The sign on the cross says "The King of the Jews" and we know he is God.
That was Pilate fucking with the Jews because he was annoyed at them for
making him execute the lunatic/liar who fancied himself lord.  The Jews
said, "We have no king but Caesar."
[21] Then said the chief priests of the Jews to Pilate, Write not, The
King of the Jews; but that he said, I am King of the Jews.
[22] Pilate answered, What I have written I have written.
But Jesus didn't say he was King of the Jews.  The chief priest  lied
that he
did.
Prove it, fat boy.
Yeah, Earl, prove it, fat boy.
Matthew 27:11New International Version (NIV)
Jesus Before Pilate
11 Meanwhile Jesus stood before the governor, and the governor asked him, “Are
you the king of the Jews?”
“You have said so,” Jesus replied.
Post by Michael Christ
Or go and get some exercise and stop shuffling down to McDonalds in
morning and coming back late at night. By the way, I will not tell you
where the key for the padlock on the fridge is! So stop asking!!!
Michael Christ
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Robert
2018-01-07 17:54:17 UTC
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The Magi set out because of a deep desire which prompted them to leave
everything behind and begin a journey. It was as though they had always been
waiting for that "star". (Pope Benedict XVI) Our response to the Father's
offer of salvation is that of the Magi: "to offer gold is to proclaim Christ's
kingship, to offer incense is to adore his Godhead, and to offer myrrh is to
"When the king of heaven was born, the heavens knew he was God because they
immediately sent forth a star; the sea knew him because it allowed him to walk
upon it; the earth knew him because it trembled when he died; the sun knew him
because it hid the rays of it's light". (St Gregory the Great). The
manifestation of the Son of God to the world begs belief from us, by which we
will be led home by another way.
Duke, the Magi, the astronomers ever since the time of Daniel who had
great fame for his knowledge of the stars and his prophecies were
looking for that star as prophesied by Daniel, all the astronomers
kept their eye open for it just to see if Daniel as all that people of
his day said that he was. Well as you know, it was true, but contrary
to movies, and religious stories they did not show up at the birth of
Christ, but later as he was a young child an no babe. Which is why the
ruler of Israel killed all male children from the age of two down to
birth around the area where Christ lived.
And thus we are given by Jesus the Holy Mass, 7 sacraments and to feed and
clothe the needy in love.
No, not in the perspective of the RCC.
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I do not know anywhere where it says Jesus was King of heaven, do you?
A mistake in thinking scripture is meant to teach all things. Unfortunately
it's sad that so many people take that position that "if it doesn't say that,
you can't say that".
All truth is in conformity with Gods word. Of course you can say what
you want, and you often do, but if it does not match up with the word
it is just trash.
Teresita
2018-01-07 19:42:54 UTC
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All truth is in conformity with Gods word.
Except for the truth that there is no solid dome in the sky with windows
that open to let it rain.
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duke
2018-01-10 23:36:08 UTC
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All truth is in conformity with Gods word.
Except for the truth that there is no solid dome in the sky with windows
that open to let it rain.
Pagan from before Abraham.

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Teresita
2018-01-11 01:34:31 UTC
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All truth is in conformity with Gods word.
Except for the truth that there is no solid dome in the sky with windows
that open to let it rain.
Pagan from before Abraham.
Isaiah 24:18 ... for the windows from on high are open, and the
foundations of the earth do shake.

Are now you going to tell us Isaiah is pagan?
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duke
2018-01-11 19:22:32 UTC
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All truth is in conformity with Gods word.
Except for the truth that there is no solid dome in the sky with windows
that open to let it rain.
Pagan from before Abraham.
Isaiah 24:18 ... for the windows from on high are open, and the
foundations of the earth do shake.
Are now you going to tell us Isaiah is pagan?
He was referring to words in Genesis.

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Teresita
2018-01-12 02:13:28 UTC
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All truth is in conformity with Gods word.
Except for the truth that there is no solid dome in the sky with windows
that open to let it rain.
Pagan from before Abraham.
Isaiah 24:18 ... for the windows from on high are open, and the
foundations of the earth do shake.
Are now you going to tell us Isaiah is pagan?
He was referring to words in Genesis.
Doesn't that mean Isaiah signed off on those words? If I referred to
words in Rita Mae Brown's novel Rubyfruit Jungle you'd call me tdyke.
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duke
2018-01-12 19:45:50 UTC
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All truth is in conformity with Gods word.
Except for the truth that there is no solid dome in the sky with windows
that open to let it rain.
Pagan from before Abraham.
Isaiah 24:18 ... for the windows from on high are open, and the
foundations of the earth do shake.
Are now you going to tell us Isaiah is pagan?
He was referring to words in Genesis.
Doesn't that mean Isaiah signed off on those words? If I referred to
words in Rita Mae Brown's novel Rubyfruit Jungle you'd call me tdyke.
He was a Jew quoting the OT>

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Frank I
2018-01-12 00:20:07 UTC
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All truth is in conformity with Gods word.
Except for the truth that there is no solid dome in the sky with windows
that open to let it rain.
Pagan from before Abraham.
Isaiah 24:18 ... for the windows from on high are open, and the
foundations of the earth do shake.
Are now you going to tell us Isaiah is pagan?
Was Isaiah a pagan?
Or......... maybe he was a shaker.
We had a bunch of shakers here in Ohio.
Until they all died off.
duke
2018-01-08 12:58:22 UTC
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The Magi set out because of a deep desire which prompted them to leave
everything behind and begin a journey. It was as though they had always been
waiting for that "star". (Pope Benedict XVI) Our response to the Father's
offer of salvation is that of the Magi: "to offer gold is to proclaim Christ's
kingship, to offer incense is to adore his Godhead, and to offer myrrh is to
"When the king of heaven was born, the heavens knew he was God because they
immediately sent forth a star; the sea knew him because it allowed him to walk
upon it; the earth knew him because it trembled when he died; the sun knew him
because it hid the rays of it's light". (St Gregory the Great). The
manifestation of the Son of God to the world begs belief from us, by which we
will be led home by another way.
Duke, the Magi, the astronomers ever since the time of Daniel who had
great fame for his knowledge of the stars and his prophecies were
looking for that star as prophesied by Daniel, all the astronomers
kept their eye open for it just to see if Daniel as all that people of
his day said that he was. Well as you know, it was true, but contrary
to movies, and religious stories they did not show up at the birth of
Christ, but later as he was a young child an no babe. Which is why the
ruler of Israel killed all male children from the age of two down to
birth around the area where Christ lived.
And thus we are given by Jesus the Holy Mass, 7 sacraments and to feed and
clothe the needy in love.
No, not in the perspective of the RCC.
You have become fake news

MASS:
Do this in memory of me - Mat 26:26-29, Mark 14:22-26, Luke 22:14-20,
1Cor 11:23-25 (11-34).

SACRAMENTS:
1. Baptism - John 3:5-6, Mat 28:19, Hebrew 2:14-15
2. Holy Eucharist -Mat 26:26-29, Mark 14:22-26, Luke 22:14-20,
1Cor 11:23-25 (11-34).
3. Confession - John 20:22-23, 2 Cor 5:18-19, Mat 9:2-8
4. Matrimony - Mat 19:4-6, Mark 10:5-9, Ephesians 5:31
5. Confirmation - Ephesians 1:13-14, Acts 8:14-17, Acts 19:5-6,
6. Holy Orders - Acts 13:3 & 14:23, John 20:22, 1 & 2 Tim
7. Anointing of the Sick - Mark 6:12-13, John 5:14

PAPACY:
Mat 16:13-19 (Pope), Mat 28:16-20 (Teaching), Eph 2:19-20 (Base)

PURGATORY:
1 Cor 3:10-15, Rev 21:27

FAITH (without deeds is dead faith):
Mat 25:31-46, James 2:26
Feed the hungry.
Clothe the naked.
Give drink to the thirsty.
Visit the imprisoned.

Heal the sick.
Cast out demons.
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I do not know anywhere where it says Jesus was King of heaven, do you?
A mistake in thinking scripture is meant to teach all things. Unfortunately
it's sad that so many people take that position that "if it doesn't say that,
you can't say that".
All truth is in conformity with Gods word. Of course you can say what
you want, and you often do, but if it does not match up with the word
it is just trash.
See above.

the dukester, American-American


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Kevrob
2018-01-09 02:53:29 UTC
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The Magi set out because of a deep desire ....
Plagiarizing from that creep Ratzinger, now?

https://preview.tinyurl.com/EarlDerpMagi OR

https://tinyurl.com/EarlDerpMagi

...which resolves to:

https://books.google.com/books?id=cLv8O31mcg4C&pg=PT42&lpg=PT42&dq=Magi+set+out+because+of+a+deep+desire+which+prompted+them+to+leave+everything+behind+and+begin+a+journey&source=bl&ots=-5sE9Yp4ev&sig=nN6KFPKDMN-O0AetLuwrMPYO1tw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiJ-p3w7snYAhVMu1MKHQGzDjgQ6AEIMjAB#v=onepage&q=Magi%20set%20out%20because%20of%20a%20deep%20desire%20which%20prompted%20them%20to%20leave%20everything%20behind%20and%20begin%20a%20journey&f=false

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