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Jahnu
2017-05-14 21:15:16 UTC
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raven1
2017-05-14 21:57:42 UTC
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The Supreme and Stuff
More like "Stuff and Nonsense". Get stuffed, Jesper.
Jahnu
2017-05-15 04:44:32 UTC
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Meditation means to concentrate on one single point. The Vedic
tradition, which is the original tradition explaining meditation,
recommends different methods, both physical and psychic, to aid this
kind of total absorbtion of the mind.

Meditation takes place in the mind by concentating on one single point
or object. To do this one uses a sound vibration to hold the mind fast
on. Most new-age methods entails making the mind empty and to do that
one stares at a flame or a circle one has drawn on the wall.

But it is not possible to empty the mind, for the mind is always full
of all kinds of thoughts, feelings and impressions that constantly
imposes themselves. Just try even for one second to not think of
anything. It's not possible.

In the classical yoga process - astanga yoga (the eight fold yoga
process) one reduces the breathing cycle to quiet the mind. If one
inhales very slowly, keeps it, and then exhales very slowly, one will
find that the mind quiets down. This form of breathing control is
called pranayama, and it is this method in particular that has a
beneficial effect on the body. How this is so I can explain in more
depth if someone might wish it.

But to concentrate the mind fully on one single point one uses a sound
vibration, ie. a mantra. All Vedic mantras are composed of names of
God. The word mantra is a Sanskrit compound of two word - mana and
trayate - meaning respectively mind and to free. So the word mantra
means that which liberates the mind.

Why a mantra is always composed of names of God is because the
ultimate best one can concentrate on is God. I the Vedic philosophy it
is explained that God's name is non-different from God Himself. On the
physical plane there is always duality. There is a difference between
a word and the object a word denotes. For instance, there is a
difference between the word water and the substance water. But on the
spiritual plane there is no duality, so there is no difference between
an object and the name of an object. I the spiritual world the
substance water and the word water is the same.

In the same way there is no difference between God's name and God
Himself. In the Vedic process meditation therefore means to
concentrate on God and that is done by focusing the mind on God's
name.

This method of mental concentration on a mantra will enhance one's
overall ability to concentrate. One will find a greater extend of
mental calm and balance during the rest of the day as well. If one for
instance meditates even 10 - 20 minuttes a day the result will be an
overall mental calm and balance. That will have a beneficial effect on
what one otherwise is doing. This is a complete scientific process
whose beneficial effect one can experience and measure. It doesn't
matter what one believes or doesn't believe - whether one is religious
or not. A genuine mantra will benefit the mind under all
circumstances.

The following is a description of how one can practically meditate. I
will give you a mantra which is - om namah bhagavate vasudevaya. It
means, O Lord, I offer my obeisances onto You. The idea is to repeat
this mantra within the mind quite slowly and focus the mind on the
sound. Every time the thoughts of the mind comes in, what they
inevitably will, one pushes them away by keeping the focus on the
mantra. In this way one can keep the mind from being occupied with all
the thoughts, feelings, and impressions it's usually engaged in.

There are those who say, that it doesn't matter what kind of sound one
concentrates the mind on, but that is false. For example, you can try
to meditate on the sound Coca-cola or Mickey Mouse and see if it has
the same effect. It doesn't. The sound of God's name has a beneficial
effect on the mind that no other sound can measure up to. Anyone can
test and verify that.

So good luck. Let me know how it goes. If there are something you want
me to explain closer I am at your service.




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raven1
2017-05-15 13:38:23 UTC
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Meditation means to concentrate on one single point.
Says the guy with the attention span of a mayfly.
Jahnu
2017-05-17 03:54:51 UTC
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2017-05-17 13:23:13 UTC
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ROTFLMFAO! Jesper, you should have been a comedian. I point out that
you have the attention span of a mayfly, and your response is to prove
my point by posting something completely irrelevant. Idiot!
Jahnu
2017-05-18 02:56:55 UTC
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2017-05-18 13:16:42 UTC
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http://www.spiritscienceandmetaphysics.com/harvard-neurosurgeon-confirms-the-afterlife-exists/
Same non-existent website you cited before. Idiot!
Jahnu
2017-05-19 03:38:52 UTC
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2017-05-19 12:58:15 UTC
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http://www.collective-evolution.com/2017/03/01/peer-reviewed-science-losing-credibility-as-large-amounts-of-research-shown-to-be-false/
Nice k00ksite, Jesper! We have climate change denial, anti-vax
nonsense, UFOs in Saturn's rings, right-wing political conspiracy
theories... seriously, do you ever even bother to read the crap you
post?
Jahnu
2017-05-20 04:22:52 UTC
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Funny to see you reduced to a squawking crow who can only stupidly
deny irrefutable, empiric facts :)

Do you know understan how atheism has damaged your mind?

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Jeanne Douglas
2017-05-20 15:23:48 UTC
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Funny to see you reduced to a squawking crow who can only stupidly
deny irrefutable, empiric facts :)
What "irrefutable, empiric facts" are you talking about?
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2017-05-20 17:48:41 UTC
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bitch moan whine
Funny to see you reduced to a squawking crow who can only stupidly
deny irrefutable, empiric facts :)
What "irrefutable, empiric facts" are you talking about?
The UFOs in Saturn's rings, maybe? There's so much k00kery there it's
hard to know which part he means.
raven1
2017-05-20 17:47:44 UTC
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Funny to see you reduced to a squawking crow who can only stupidly
deny irrefutable, empiric facts
There aren't any facts presented in the k00ksite you posted. Again,
there's a bunch of anti-climate change nonsense, some anti-vax
nonsense, some UFO nonsense, some right-wing conspiracy nonsense...
basically, you're just confirming my observation that you'll
automatically believe literally anything, no matter how ridiculous it
is, as long as it's contrary to the mainstream.
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Do you know understan how atheism has damaged your mind?
"Know understan"? ROTFLMFAO, dumbass! Talk about being your own worst
enemy!
Jahnu
2017-05-21 01:51:51 UTC
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http://archaeologyonline.net/artifacts/scientific-verif-vedas


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2017-05-21 01:57:54 UTC
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http://archaeologyonline.net/artifacts/scientific-verif-vedas
LOL! Another fact-free k00ksite that you've posted many times before.
Give it up already, loser. In over twenty years here you have
absolutely nothing to show for it other than convincing everyone that
you're an astonishingly ignorant idiot, and that ISKCON has nothing to
do with Krishna, and everything to do with being a con.
Jahnu
2017-05-22 04:46:43 UTC
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2017-05-22 15:58:48 UTC
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http://www.elephantjournal.com/2016/06/leonardo-dicaprio-joins-powerful-forces-to-rally-for-a-ban-on-beef/
And anyone should give a shit about what some dumbass celebrity thinks
why? For all your ranting and raving about "Mickey Mouse culture", you
seem awfully impressed by what famous people think. That's not a
virtue, by the way, it's being a gullible idiot.
Jahnu
2017-05-23 01:25:40 UTC
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https://vimeo.com/170251649/2fcca90310


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2017-05-23 18:28:06 UTC
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https://vimeo.com/170251649/2fcca90310
And Brave Sir Jesper bravely runs away again...
Jahnu
2017-05-23 23:55:55 UTC
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And Brave Sir Jesper bravely runs away again...
You wish, dumbass.



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2017-05-24 23:07:51 UTC
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And Brave Sir Jesper bravely runs away again...
You wish, dumbass.
http://shiftfrequency.com/scientific-proof-of-reincarnation-dr-ian-stevensons-life-work/
LOL! Wow, that's a steaming load of bollocks even for you, Jesper!
And, of course, it's from a k00ksite that has nothing to do with
science whatsoever. Bravo, dumbass!
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2017-05-25 01:22:50 UTC
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http://www.dandavats.com/?p=1400 - Schooling In The Realm Of Stupidity


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2017-05-25 13:33:37 UTC
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http://www.dandavats.com/?p=1400 - Schooling In The Realm Of Stupidity
Sounds like your autobiography.
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2017-05-26 00:31:07 UTC
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Atheists have claimed the right to define natural. They say natural is
equivalent to material, they say all natural phenomena can be
explained by the chemical fluctuations in matter.

This assertion, however, is far from scientific. It's an assertion
based on pure faith. Not only is the assertion that life comes from
matter based on pure faith, it is also unspported by science. There is
no natural explanation of conscious awareness. Science can't say
anthing comprehensive about consciouness, still the scientific method
is being hailed as the main source of knowledge in the modern culture.

So here we have a process of knowledge, ie. science, that has
absolutely nothing sensible or scientific to say about existenting in
the world. Still, modern science is being hailed as the culmination of
human knowledge and progress.

hmmm...

Fortunately, to this hopeless scenario there is a viable alternative.


Krishna says:

My dear Arjuna, because you are never envious of Me, I shall impart to
you this most confidential knowledge and realization, knowing which
you shall be relieved of the miseries of material existence. (Bg. 9.1)

This knowledge is the king of education, the most secret of all
secrets. It is the purest knowledge, and because it gives direct
perception of the self by realization, it is the perfection of
religion. It is everlasting, and it is joyfully performed. (Bg. 9.2)




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2017-05-27 19:38:40 UTC
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Atheists have claimed the right to define natural. They say natural is
equivalent to material, they say all natural phenomena can be
explained by the chemical fluctuations in matter.
Let me simplify it for you. If it happens it is "natural."

Was that so hard?
Jahnu
2017-05-26 00:31:22 UTC
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Atheists have claimed the right to define natural. They say natural is
equivalent to material, they say all natural phenomena can be
explained by the chemical fluctuations in matter.

This assertion, however, is far from scientific. It's an assertion
based on pure faith. Not only is the assertion that life comes from
matter based on pure faith, it is also unspported by science. There is
no natural explanation of conscious awareness. Science can't say
anthing comprehensive about consciouness, still the scientific method
is being hailed as the main source of knowledge in the modern culture.

So here we have a process of knowledge, ie. science, that has
absolutely nothing sensible or scientific to say about existenting in
the world. Still, modern science is being hailed as the culmination of
human knowledge and progress.

hmmm...

Fortunately, to this hopeless scenario there is a viable alternative.


Krishna says:

My dear Arjuna, because you are never envious of Me, I shall impart to
you this most confidential knowledge and realization, knowing which
you shall be relieved of the miseries of material existence. (Bg. 9.1)

This knowledge is the king of education, the most secret of all
secrets. It is the purest knowledge, and because it gives direct
perception of the self by realization, it is the perfection of
religion. It is everlasting, and it is joyfully performed. (Bg. 9.2)




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2017-05-27 03:04:09 UTC
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Atheists have claimed the right to define natural. They say natural is
equivalent to material,
In the English language, that's broadly true regardless of one's
religious opinions. You're an idiot.
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they say all natural phenomena can be
explained by the chemical fluctuations in matter.
ROTFLMFAO! "Chemical fluctuations"?? You really are a hopeless idiot!
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2017-05-27 06:24:07 UTC
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bitch moan whine
Atheists have claimed the right to define natural. They say natural is
equivalent to material,
In the English language, that's broadly true regardless of one's
religious opinions. You're an idiot.
Post by Jahnu
they say all natural phenomena can be
explained by the chemical fluctuations in matter.
ROTFLMFAO! "Chemical fluctuations"?? You really are a hopeless idiot!
Does anybody know is Jesper was this stupid before he got sucked into
his silly Hare Krishna cult?

He had to be stupid, but this stupid?
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2017-06-09 17:38:48 UTC
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Post by Jahnu
bitch moan whine
Atheists have claimed the right to define natural. They say natural is
equivalent to material,
In the English language, that's broadly true regardless of one's
religious opinions. You're an idiot.
Post by Jahnu
they say all natural phenomena can be
explained by the chemical fluctuations in matter.
ROTFLMFAO! "Chemical fluctuations"?? You really are a hopeless idiot!
Does anybody know is Jesper was this stupid before he got sucked into
his silly Hare Krishna cult?
He had to be stupid, but this stupid?
I'd guess that they nabbed him on his first day on campus. And the
Hari Krishna Hippy Hops have regretted it ever since. Now, they take
care of him and let him use a computer to shut him up. He's been a
troll off and on in alt.atheism for almost as long as Earl as. That's
an awfully long time for him to be making a fool of himself. I'll bet
his keepers figure as long as he's happy he won't bother them. Either
that or they don't care what he does, as long as he doesn't bother them.

He definitely wants to be ignorant. He's persistently ignorant. If he
ever had a thought of his own, his head would explode. He's like a
leech on his religion. Jesper no longer exists, but neither does Jahnu.
He's just a hollow shell filled with quotes.

This is a message from Jahnu: Bitch, moan, whine. Insults. Quotes. Even
when he posts a link, it has nothing to do with what he's responding to.
There is no mind present in his messages.
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2017-05-27 21:53:25 UTC
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but, but I don't know the word fluctuation, wah wah.
If it's not reviewed by some atheist in a lab coat it cannot be real
wah wah...
https://in.news.yahoo.com/scientifically-validated-now-ganga-water-holy-060417938.html


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2017-05-28 00:27:12 UTC
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but, but I don't know the word fluctuation, wah wah.
ROTFLMFAO! Jesper, the expression "chemical fluctuations" in the
context you used it is almost as dumb and ignorant as "planetary
constellations" (the former can be a real thing, but it isn't here;
the latter is just nonsensical). It screams that you don't have the
slightest idea what you're talking about. I know that English isn't
your first language, but give it up. You're only going to make
yourself look like even more of a fool defending your mistake.
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2017-05-28 23:03:18 UTC
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2017-05-29 00:12:53 UTC
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http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/229963/ancient_egyptian_question_marksmedallion/
Oh, look, Jesper is running away as fast as he can from his "chemical
fluctuations" nonsense! ROTFLMFAO! Now he's going to either snip, or
lie about running away from his mistake.
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2017-05-30 01:56:40 UTC
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Oh, look, Jesper is running away as fast as he can from his "chemical
fluctuations" nonsense! ROTFLMFAO! Now he's going to either snip, or
lie about running away from his mistake.
hahaha :) Listen to this uneducated, ignorant fool. He doesn't even
know the term chemical fluctuation. There are literally hundreds on
scientific articles on the net that use the term.

https://journals.aps.org/prd/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevD.75.054026

You really don't know much, do you, dumbass?

It's like when you whined about constellations of planets.

---but, but I follow astronomy.

Yeah right, and I'm the Pope.





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2017-05-30 12:59:07 UTC
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Oh, look, Jesper is running away as fast as he can from his "chemical
fluctuations" nonsense! ROTFLMFAO! Now he's going to either snip, or
lie about running away from his mistake.
hahaha :) Listen to this uneducated, ignorant fool. He doesn't even
know the term chemical fluctuation.
Sure I do. As I mentioned, it's a real phrase. You just used it wrong.
Post by Jahnu
There are literally hundreds on
scientific articles on the net that use the term.
Yes, but they don't use the term incorrectly, like you did, you
blithering idiot.
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2017-05-31 22:45:12 UTC
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Oh, look, Brave Sir Jesper is bravely running away from his latest
fuck-up! What a loser!
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2017-06-01 05:34:58 UTC
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Oh, look, Brave Sir Jesper is bravely running away from his latest
fuck-up! What a loser!
Still here, Birdbrain, to smack you down every time you open you ugly
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2017-06-01 13:05:27 UTC
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Oh, look, Brave Sir Jesper is bravely running away from his latest
fuck-up! What a loser!
Still here, Birdbrain, to smack you down
Jesper, you saying something stupid and ignorant, and me correcting
you, does not constitute you smacking anyone down. You're delusional.
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2017-06-02 05:45:45 UTC
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2017-06-02 12:46:25 UTC
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http://youtu.be/ZuXp5x3N95E - ID proof
The funniest part of this video is that the Fundamentalist Christians
who made it would be the first to tell you that you're going to Hell
for being in a Hindu cult, dumbass.
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2017-06-03 09:44:25 UTC
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2017-06-03 18:17:59 UTC
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http://youtu.be/44OoZ6GfmK0 - iskcon 50 years
50 years of CONning gullible twats like you.
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2017-06-04 09:33:40 UTC
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2017-06-04 16:11:29 UTC
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http://meatyourfuture.com/2015/09/herbivores-carnivores/
Humans are omnivores. You're an idiot.
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2017-06-05 19:40:12 UTC
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http://youtu.be/sH-hs2v-UjI
Oh, look! Brave Sir Jesper is bravely running away from the fact that
humans are omnivores! What a brave little hippie!
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2017-06-06 10:44:34 UTC
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2017-06-06 13:11:16 UTC
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http://archaeologyonline.net/artifacts/scientific-verif-vedas
LOL! You've already posted this tripe multiple times, loser. It's not
any less k00ky this time around.
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2017-06-07 12:39:13 UTC
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2017-06-07 13:23:08 UTC
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http://higherperspective.com/2013/10/ancient-city-discovered-in-india.html#JxiRlWtmGO2XVGhi.01
Nice k00ksite, Jesper.
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2017-06-08 21:31:13 UTC
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LOL! As if anyone is going to bother to click on a video link from
you!
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2017-06-09 04:17:21 UTC
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http://www.ancient-code.com/10-incredible-images-of-sacsayhuaman-that-you-probably-havent-seen/
That's nice. Your point is?
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http://youtu.be/DKfGC3P9KoQ
Mchael Cremo? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! How stupid *are* you?
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http://youtu.be/DKfGC3P9KoQ
Mchael Cremo? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! How stupid *are* you?
I had to look him up - he's a total loonie.
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"This video is unavailable". And Jesper strikes out yet again!
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2017-06-12 16:23:11 UTC
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WHEN ATHEISTS GET INTO POLITICAL POWER

Let me tell you about what happens when atheists gain political power.
Once, Russia was one of the richest and most influential countries of
Europe. When the atheists took over in 1917 they very quickly ran that
mighty country on it's ass into some impoverished condition. Russia
used to be full of natural resources and minerals and Ukraine used to
produce grains for the entire Europe. Ukraine had the most splendid
farm-soil in the whole world. After being under the rule of atheism,
in a mere 70 years that country was reduced to a wasteland.

As soon as atheists rise to political power, they immediately create a
totalitarian, fascist state. Recent history is abundant with examples
of this - China, Soviet Union, Cambodia and North Korea.

Atheists like to point to religion as the cause of all evil, but the
fact is that the most psychopathic, insane mass murders in recent
human history were all professed atheists - Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot etc.

There is nothing mother Nature hates more than atheism. She refuses to
corporate with an atheistic government. That's why she is in the
process of removing the modern Coca-cola culture from her surface.

According to the Vedic teachings there is a natural progression in
human society of dharma, artha, kama, moksha - religion, wealth,
sense-enjoyment and liberation. There can be no wealth without some
type of sacrifice or religion, and without wealth there'll be no
enjoyment. And after having enjoyed ample wealth, and then realized
that it anyway does not make one happy, one may seek liberation.

The western wealth and rise to world dominion was clearly a result of
Christian dharma, however primitive and incomplete that religion is.
Now as the western culture is discarding it's religion, it's wealth is
being diminished and removed. This is not an idea or a theory, it is a
direct observable fact. To the same degree that modern society
discards its religion, to the same degree everything falls apart.

But materialists don't see this. Why? Because they are simply too
ignorant and deluded to actually notice what goes on in the world
around them. According to them, everything is just random chance and
in the short time you have in this life, it behooves you to enjoy as
much as possible. I mean, how ignorant can the present civilization
get? They slaughter other living entities wantonly for profit. They
actually kill living entities by the millions daily on assembly lines
in automated death-factories. Each second on the planet, a woman or a
child is being raped or murdered. And you think there will be no
consequences to such mindless atrocities, that death will offer you
eternal peace? But that's what happens when atheists get into
governmental power, they very quickly destroy everything.

Mother Nature will punish such a psychotic society, and that's what's
happening in the world right now, as we speak. Indeed, death will be a
rude awakening for the atheist.

Vishnu says:

When one is envious of the demigods, who represent the Supreme
Personality of Godhead, of the Vedas, which give all knowledge, of the
cows, brahmanas, Vaisnavas and religious principles, and ultimately of
Me, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, he and his civilization will
be vanquished without delay. -- Srimad Bhagavatam 7.4.27

Krishna says:

In the beginning of creation, the Lord of all creatures sent forth
generations of men and demigods, along with sacrifices for Vishnu, and
blessed them by saying, "Be thou happy by this yajïa [sacrifice]
because its performance will bestow upon you everything desirable for
living happily and achieving liberation. (Bg. 3.11)

The demigods, being pleased by sacrifices, will also please you, and
thus, by cooperation between men and demigods, prosperity will reign
for all.

In charge of the various necessities of life, the demigods, being
satisfied by the performance of yajïa [sacrifice], will supply all
necessities to you. But he who enjoys such gifts without offering them
to the demigods in return is certainly a thief. (Bg. 3.12)

The devotees of the Lord are released from all kinds of sins because
they eat food which is offered first for sacrifice. Others, who
prepare food for personal sense enjoyment, verily eat only sin. (Bg.
3.13)

All living bodies subsist on food grains, which are produced from
rains. Rains are produced by performance of yajna [sacrifice], and
yajna is born of prescribed duties. (Bg. 3.14)

Regulated activities are prescribed in the Vedas, and the Vedas are
directly manifested from the Supreme Personality of Godhead.
Consequently the all-pervading Transcendence is eternally situated in
acts of sacrifice. (Bg. 3.15)

My dear Arjuna, one who does not follow in human life the cycle of
sacrifice thus established by the Vedas certainly leads a life full of
sin. Living only for the satisfaction of the senses, such a person
lives in vain. (Bg. 3.16)


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WHEN ATHEISTS GET INTO POLITICAL POWER
Let me tell you about what happens when atheists gain political power.
Once, Russia was one of the richest and most influential countries of
Europe
How many times are you going to repeat this risible nonsense, Jesper?
Russia was one of the poorest and most backward countries in Europe at
the time of the October Revolution, not one of the richest and most
influential. Within 25 years, the Communists transformed it into the
second most powerful nation on the planet behind the US. As usual, you
have no knowledge whatsoever of what you're talking about, yet you
don't have the sense to sit down and STFU.
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2017-06-14 03:04:39 UTC
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The mind basically thinks and acts like it has been trained to do
during its formative years.

If you don't suffer much, you are more influenced by the mode of
passion than of ignorance. Passion means constantly changing between
happiness and distress. The mode of ignorance conditions you to a lot
of suffering and misfortune. And in the mode of goodness you are
mostly happy. There is practically no goodness in modern society,
hence all the problems. Modern society is based on complete
speculation. It's values and goals are without any authority, but the
mind.

You see, whatever we know or think we know, is something we have
learned from others, so it is entirely a matter of authority, exactly
as predicted in the Vedic tradition, which state that there are
basically three ways of getting knowledge - pratyaksha, anumana and
shabda - ie. direct sensory perception (empirical knowledge), logical
deduction and from sound, which means that which is learned from
authority.

So we have two options - we can either accept our own mind as
authority, or we can accept somebody else's mind as authority. It's
simply a question of who we choose to get our knowlege from - is our
own mind the authority or is it someone else?

In modern society, we have been trained to think that one's own mind
is the greatest authority. That, together with what we are told by TV
and Hollywood, determines our view of the world.

I accept the Vedic sages as my authority I accept the Vedas as
authority. Others accept what they are conditioned to think by the
culture that produced them. It is as simple as that.

The reason we don't understand that the knowledge of the eternal
disciplic succession is superior to the speculations of modern man, is
because we are too much governed by the mode of ignorance, in which we
become convinced by what our own mind tells us. At least, a person in
the mode of passion will doubt whether he is right or wrong - doubts
are the function of the intelligence. And in the mode of goodness one
understands things as they are, because in the mode of goodness there
is enlightenment.

Real knowledge can only be derived from those who possess it. In the
mode of goodness one understands that. In the mode of passion one will
at least be doubtful of what the mind, or anyone else, tells one, but
in the mode of ignorance, one is totally convinced, but of the wrong
thing, and that makes one commit mistakes.

The first mistake is to accept knowledge from the wrong sources. Real
knowledge comes from the Vedas. It can be tried and testet by anyone.
The description of nature's working according to the three modes of
material nature - goodness, passion, and ignorance - is a science that
can be tried and tested like any other science. Bhagavad Gita is like
a user manual issued by the producer of the machine of nature -
Krishna.

It's like a map that will teach one to read what is really going on in
nature, in the body and in the mind. It can be tested and confirmed
scientifically. But if we are in the mode of ignorance, we won't
listen to it or try to investigate it. We will be completely convinced
by our prejudice and upbringing. Conditions of ignorance always lead
to suffering, without exception. The mode of passion causes you to
experience a mixture of happiness and distress - up and down
constantly - and in the mode of goodness we will be generally
satisfied and content and we will know what is what.

It should be noted, that I'm not expression a faith or belief here,
I'm stating scientific facts that can be tried and tested and verified
by anyone. If one doesn't agree, he should feel free to ignore it.
This message is only directed at a sincere seeker who wants to know
God and the meaning of life. It is only meant for those who have a
desire to learn the truth - the absolute truth which will end all
suffering.

Krishna says:

Just try to learn the truth by approaching a spiritual master. Inquire
from him submissively and render service unto him. The self-realized
souls can impart knowledge unto you because they have seen the truth.
(Bg. 4.34)

Having obtained real knowledge from a self-realized soul, you will
never fall again into such illusion, for by this knowledge you will
see that all living beings are but part of the Supreme, or, in other
words, that they are Mine. (Bg. 4.35)

Even if you are considered to be the most sinful of all sinners, when
you are situated in the boat of transcendental knowledge you will be
able to cross over the ocean of miseries. —Bg 4.36

As a blazing fire turns firewood to ashes, O Arjuna, so does the fire
of knowledge burn to ashes all reactions to material activities. —Bg
4.37

In this world, there is nothing so sublime and pure as transcendental
knowledge. Such knowledge is the mature fruit of all mysticism. And
one who has become accomplished in the practice of devotional service
enjoys this knowledge within himself in due course of time. —Bg 4.38

A faithful man who is dedicated to transcendental knowledge and who
subdues his senses is eligible to achieve such knowledge, and having
achieved it he quickly attains the supreme spiritual peace. —Bg 4.39

But ignorant and faithless persons who doubt the revealed scriptures
do not attain God consciousness; they fall down. For the doubting soul
there is happiness neither in this world nor in the next. —Bg 4.40


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The mind basically thinks and acts like it has been trained to do
during its formative years.
In your case, that would be when you were brainwashed.
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The mind basically thinks and acts like it has been trained to do
during its formative years.
In your case, that would be when you were brainwashed.
Was the deranged lunatic born into his cult?
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The mind basically thinks and acts like it has been trained to do
during its formative years.
In your case, that would be when you were brainwashed.
Was the deranged lunatic born into his cult?
No, apparently he was a drummer in a rock band before he joined as an
adult.
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The mind basically thinks and acts like it has been trained to do
during its formative years.
In your case, that would be when you were brainwashed.
Was the deranged lunatic born into his cult?
No, apparently he was a drummer in a rock band before he joined as an
adult.
How old is he? Did he join because George Harrison did?
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Was the deranged lunatic born into his cult?
Nope.

I was converted by the missionary activities of ISKCON, the Hare
Krishna movement. I joined the Hare Krishnas because they were the
only ones who could answer all the questions I had about God and life
and death.

I grew up in Denmark in the 60s and 70s. Even though Denmark has a
state supported Lutheran Church, it’s considered a very atheistic
country.

In the 60s and 70s, religious people were considered weirdos. No one
in my family, circle of friends or teachers in school believed in God.
Thus I grew up as a complete atheist. Later in life, probably from
smoking ganja, I began wondering about God and the higher dimensions
of life. I was around 19 by then. Also, another reason I started
wondering about God - I couldn’t understand that even though I got all
the sex, drugs and rock’nroll, I could possibly want, I was never
really satisfied. I always felt something lacking.

I tried so many things. I tried to be an intellectual communist. I
read all the books in the library on philosophy and religion. One book
I was quite attracted to was one written by Paul Brunton - an American
who went to India to find a guru, but couldn’t commit to any, so he
wrote his own book. I forget what it was called. But now I know it was
inspired by impersonal, Mayavada philosophy.

I became very critical of society. Me and and some of my friends even
talked about joining Bader-Mainhof of Rote Arme Fraktion, but luckily
it remained the idle talk of a bunch of stoners.

I tried to be a Buddhist. I tried yoga and meditation. I practiced
pranayama. At that time I met the Mormons, and they gave me my first
experience of God. I converted to the Mormons. I was baptized and
everything. But there were too many questions they had no good answers
to. At that time I was on a quest to find the truth and real purpose
of life. I was very attracted to the ideas of karma and reincarnation.

One day, I was 24 by then, I was very frustrated in existential
anxiety and I called out to Jesus - Oh Christ, please show me the way.
And lo and behold, the very next day my girl-friend came home… she
said - I met this weird dude on the street and he wouldn’t let me go
until I had taken this book, and she threw it at me - here I know you
are interested in this shit. It turned out she had met a Hare Krishna,
who gave her The Science of Self-realization in Danish. As soon as I
read that book, I knew I had found God and the meaning of life. Half a
year later I moved into the Hare Krishna temple in Copenhagen. That
was in 1982. So it took me, like, 5 years from I began my search for
the truth of life, and till I met the Hare Krishnas.

Thank God for Prabhupada and vice versa… and Jesus showed me the way
:)

Krishna says:

After many births and deaths, he who is actually in knowledge
surrenders unto Me, knowing Me to be the cause of all causes and all
that is. Such a great soul is very rare. (Bg 7.19)


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Was the deranged lunatic born into his cult?
Nope.
I was converted by the missionary activities of ISKCON, the Hare
Krishna movement. I joined the Hare Krishnas because they were the
only ones who could answer all the questions I had about God and life
and death.
Pretty stupid answers, though.
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Was the deranged lunatic born into his cult?
Nope.
I was converted by the missionary activities of ISKCON, the Hare
Krishna movement. I joined the Hare Krishnas because they were the
only ones who could answer all the questions I had about God and life
and death.
WHAT FUCKING GOD?
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Pretty stupid answers, though.
Then the moron already had to believe enough of it to find the rest of
the nonsense convincing, because missionaries, evangelists, etc cannot
explain it in their audience's terms..

They always leave that bit out.
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Cross-Cultural Traces of Vedic Civilization

by Sadaputa Dasa ( Ph.D.)

Devastation of the universe

The ancient Greek writer Aratos tells the following story about the
constellation Virgo, or the virgin. Virgo, he says, may have belonged
to the star race, the forefathers of the ancient stars. In primeval
times, in the golden age, she lived among mankind as Justice
personified and would exhort people to adhere to the truth. At this
time people lived peacefully, without hypocrisy or quarrel. Later, in
the age of silver, she hid herself in the mountains, but occasionally
she came down to berate people for their evil ways. Finally the age of
bronze came. People invented the sword, and "they tasted the meat of
cows, the first who did it." At this point Virgo "flew away to the
sphere"; that is, she departed for the celestial realm.

The Vedic literature of India gives an elaborate description of the
universe as a cosmos-a harmonious, ordered system created according to
an intelligent plan as a habitation for living beings. The modern view
of the universe is so different from the Vedic view that the latter is
presently difficult to comprehend. In ancient times, however,
cosmologies similar to the Vedic system were widespread among people
all over the world. Educated people of today tend to immediately
dismiss these systems of thought as mythology, pointing to their
diversity and their strange ideas as proof that they are all simply
products of the imagination.

If we do this, however, we may be overlooking important information
that could shed light on the vast forgotten period that precedes the
brief span of recorded human history. There is certainly much evidence
of independent storytelling in the traditions of various cultures, but
there are also many common themes. Some of these themes are found in
highly developed form in the Vedic literature. Their presence in
cultures throughout the world is consistent with the idea that in the
distant past, Vedic culture exerted worldwide influence.

In this article we will give some examples of Vedic ideas concerning
time and human longevity that appear repeatedly in different
traditions. First we will examine some of these ideas, and then we
will discuss some questions about what they imply and how they should
be interpreted.

In the Vedic literature time is regarded as a manifestation of
Krishna, the Supreme Being. As such, time is a controlling force that
regulates the lives of living beings in accordance with a cosmic plan.
This plan involves repeating cycles of creation and destruction of
varying durations. The smallest and most important of these repeating
cycles consists of four yugas, or ages, called Satya, Treta, Dvapara,
and Kali. In these successive ages mankind gradually descends from a
high spiritual platform to a degraded state. Then, with the beginning
of a new Satya-yuga, the original state of purity is restored, and the
cycle begins again.

The story of Virgo illustrates that in the ancient Mediterranean world
there was widespread belief in a similar succession of four ages,
known there as the ages of gold, silver, bronze, and iron. In this
system humanity also starts out in the first age in an advanced state
of consciousness and gradually becomes degraded. Here also, the
progressive developments in human society are not simply evolving by
physical processes, but are superintended by a higher controlling
intelligence.

It is noteworthy that Aratos' story specifies the eating of cows as a
sinful act that cut mankind off from direct contact with celestial
beings. This detail fits in nicely with the ancient Indian traditions
of cow protection, but it is unexpected in the context of Greek or
European culture.

One explanation for similarities between ideas found in different
cultures is that people everywhere have essentially the same
psychological makeup, and so they tend to come up independently with
similar notions. However, details such as the point about cow-killing
suggest that we are dealing here with common traditions rather than
independent inventions.

Another example of similarities between cultures can be found among
the natives of North America. The Sioux Indians say that their
ancestors were visited by a celestial woman who gave them their system
of religion. She pointed out to them that there are four ages, and
that there is a sacred buffalo that loses one leg during each age. At
present we are in the last age, an age of degradation, and the buffalo
has one leg.

This story is a close parallel to the account in the Srimad-Bhagavatam
of the encounter between Maharaja Parikshit and the bull of Dharma.
There, Dharma is said to lose one leg with each successive yuga,
leaving it with one leg in the present Age of Kali.

According to the Vedic system, the lengths of the Satya, Treta,
Dvapara, and Kali yugas are 4, 3, 2, and 1 times an interval of
432,000 years. Within these immense periods of time the human life
span decreases from 100,000 years in the Satya-yuga to 10,000 years in
the Treta-yuga, 1,000 years in the Dvapara-yuga, and finally 100 years
in the Kali-yuga.

Of course, this idea is strongly at odds with the modern evolutionary
view of the past. In the ancient Mediterranean world, however, it was
widely believed that human history had extended over extremely long
periods of time. For example, according to old historical records,
Porphyry (c. 300 A.D.) said that Callisthenes, a companion of
Alexander in the Persian war, dispatched to Aristotle Babylonian
records of eclipses and that these records covered 31,000 years.
Likewise, Iamblicus (fourth century) said on the authority of the
ancient Greek astronomer Hipparchus that the Assyrians had made
observations for 270,000 years and had kept records of the return of
all seven planets to the same position. Finally, the Babylonian
historian Berosus assigned 432,000 years to the total span of the
reigns of the Babylonian kings before the Flood.

We do not wish to suggest that these statements are true (or false).
The point here is that people in the old Mediterranean civilization
evidently had a much different view of the past than the dominant view
today. And this view was broadly consistent with Vedic chronology.
Although the Bible is well known for advocating a very short time-span
for human history, it is interesting to note that it contains
information indicating that people at one time lived for about 1,000
years. In the Old Testament the following ages are listed for people
living before the Biblical Flood: Adam, 930; Seth, 912; Enos, 905;
Kenan, 910; Mahaleel, 895; Jared, 962; Enoch, 365; Methuselah, 969;
Lamech, 777; and Noah, 950. If we exclude Enoch (who was said to have
been taken up to heaven in his own body), these persons lived an
average of 912 years.

After the Flood, however, the following ages were recorded: Shem, 600;
Arphachshad, 438; Salah, 433; Eber, 464; Plelg, 239; Reu, 239; Serug,
230; Nahor, 148; Terah, 205; Abraham, 175; Isaac, 180; Job, 210;
Jacob, 147; Levi, 137; Kohath, 133; Amaram, 137; Moses, 120; and
Joshua, 110. These ages show a gradual decline to about 100 years,
similar to what must have happened after the beginning of Kali-yuga,
according to the Vedic system.

Here we should mention in passing that the Biblical Flood is
traditionally said to have taken place in the second or third
millennium B.C., and the traditional date in India for the beginning
of Kali-yuga is February 18, 3102 B.C. This very date is cited as the
time of the Flood in various Persian, Islamic, and European writings
from the sixth to the fourteenth centuries A.D. How did the
middle-eastern Flood come to be associated with the start of
Kali-yuga? The only comment we can make is that this story shows how
little we really know about the past.

In support of the Biblical story of very long human life- spans in
ancient times, the Roman historian Flavius Josephus cited many
historical works that were available in his time:

"Now when Noah had lived 350 years after the Flood, and all that time
happily, he died, having the number of 950 years, but let no one, upon
comparing the lives of the ancients with our lives … make the
shortness of our lives at present an argument that neither did they
attain so long a duration of life. …

Now I have for witnesses to what I have said all those that have
written Antiquities, both among the Greeks and barbarians, for even
Manetho, who wrote the Egyptian history, and Berosus, who collected
the Chaldean monuments, and Mochus, and Hestiaeus, and beside these,
Hiernonymus the Egyptian, and those who composed the Phoenician
history, agree with what I here say: Hesiod also, and Hecataeus,
Hellanicaus, and Acuzilaus, and besides Ephorus and Nicolaus relate
that the ancients lived a thousand years: but as to these matters, let
everyone look upon them as he sees fit."

Unfortunately, practically none of the works referred to by Josephus
are still existing, and this again shows how little we know of the
past. But in existing Norse sagas it is said that people in ancient
times lived for many centuries. In addition, the Norse sagas describe
a progression of ages, including an age of peace, an age when
different social orders were introduced, an age of increasing
violence, and a degraded "knife-age and axe-age with cloven shields."
The latter is followed by a period of annihilation, called Ragnarok,
after which the world is restored to goodness.

The Norse Ragnarok involves the destruction of the earth and the
abodes of the Norse demigods (called Asgard), and thus it corresponds
in Vedic chronology to the annihilation of the three worlds that
follows 1,000 yuga cycles, or one day of Brahma. It is said that
during Ragnarok the world is destroyed with flames by a being named
Surt, who lives beneath the lower world (appropriately called Hel) and
was involved in the world's creation. By comparison, the Srimad-
Bhagavatam ( 3.11.30) states that at the end of Brahma's day, "the
devastation takes place due to the fire emanating from the mouth of
Sankarshana." Sankarshana is a plenary expansion of Krishna who is
"seated at the bottom of the universe" ( Srimad- Bhagavatam 3.8.3),
beneath the lower planetary systems.

There are many similarities between the Norse and Vedic cosmologies,
but there are also great differences. One key difference is that in
the Srimad-Bhagavatam, all beings and phenomena within the universe
are clearly understood as part of the divine plan of Krishna, the
Supreme Personality of Godhead. In contrast, in the Norse mythology
God is conspicuously absent, and the origin and purpose of the major
players in the cosmic drama are very obscure. Surt, in particular, is
a "fire giant" whose origins and motives are unclear even to experts
in the Norse literature.

One might ask, If Vedic themes appear in different societies, how can
one conclude that they derive from an ancient Vedic civilization?
Perhaps they were created in many places independently, or perhaps
they descend from an unknown culture that is also ancestral to what we
call Vedic culture. Thus parallels between the accounts of Surt and
Sankarshana may be coincidental, or perhaps the Vedic account derives
from a story similar to that of Surt.

Our answer to this question is that available empirical evidence will
not be sufficient to prove the hypothesis of descent from an ancient
Vedic culture, for all empirical evidence is imperfect and subject to
various interpretations. But we can decide whether or not the evidence
is consistent with this hypothesis.

If there was an ancient Vedic world civilization, we would expect to
find traces of it in many cultures around the world. We do seem to
find such traces, and many agree with Vedic accounts in specific
details (such as the location of Surt's abode or the sacred buffalo's
loss of one leg per world age). Since this civilization began to lose
its influence thousands of years ago, at the beginning of Kali-yuga,
we would expect many of these traces to be fragmentary and overlain by
many later additions, and this we also see. Thus the available
evidence seems to be consistent with the hypothesis of a Vedic origin.




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Cross-Cultural Traces of Vedic Civilization
by Sadaputa Dasa ( Ph.D.)
Devastation of the universe
The ancient Greek writer Aratos tells the following story about the
constellation Virgo, or the virgin. Virgo, he says, may have belonged
to the star race, the forefathers of the ancient stars. In primeval
times, in the golden age, she lived among mankind as Justice
personified and would exhort people to adhere to the truth.
That's nice. Why are you sharing this mythology with atheists?
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That's nice. Why are you sharing this mythology with atheists?
Since everything has a beginning and an end, what/who made god? How
did god come into existence? Is all of this just an illusion?


Krishna says:

Those who are seers of the truth have concluded that of the
non-existent [the material body] there is no endurance and of the
eternal [the soul] there is no change. This they have concluded by
studying the nature of both. (Bg. 2.16)

So according to Krishna's definition, reality is that which is eternal
and unreality, or illusion, is that which is temporary.

Note that illusion does exist, but it is unreal in the sense that it's
not eternal. Someone may object - if I smash my head into a wall, the
pain I feel is very real. How can it not be real? But if seen in the
light of eternity it is not real. Illusion exists, but the reason it
is not considered real is because it is not eternal. It's like a
dream. A dream happens, but when we wake up, we understand it was not
real. Life in a material body is like that - dream-like. We'll realize
that, if not before, then at the time of death. Death will be a rude
awakening for the atheist.

So reality and illusion is defined by time. One is eternal the other
is temporary. And if you think about it, it makes sense. Anything seen
in the light of eternity will be manifested for such a short time,
that it is as if it didn't really happen. it will be like a dream.

Brahma, the god of creation, is said to live as long as the universe
lasts - which is calculated to be 311 trillion solar years. So if you
live for such an unfathomable length of time, then imagine what a
person's life-span on earth of, say, 80 years must look like. I don't
even live for a second from Brahma's point of view. How real would a
person be to you if he existed for only a second? Think about it.

If we take 80 years out of 311 trillion years it is such a miniscule
portion of time, that for all practical purposes it might as well not
have happened. But then, if we take Brahma's lifespan and compare it
to eternal time, it is just as little. However long time is taken out
of eternal time, it will still amount to nothing. The duration of the
universe will make a lifespan on earth seem completely insignificant,
and the cosmic time of millions, billions, and trillions of years seem
totally inconsequential and insignificant from the point of view of
eternal time. So from the point of view of eternity, anything that is
not eternal is but an illusory glimpse.

That's how one can understand that anything which has a beginning and
an end is illusory. Only that which is eternal is real. Now, in this
world, what is then real, someone might ask. We don't have any
experience of something that lasts forever, do we? Yes we do. The only
thing, that lasts forever is the soul - ie. consciousness. The soul is
eternal, so in the material world, the only real thing is the soul,
everything else is temporary and thus illusory.

That's why self-realization, according to Vaishnava theology, means to
realize one's eternal self beyond the temporary body and mind. Krishna
gives a brilliant argument in the Bhagavad Gita to help a thoughtful
person experience his eternal self. A person's body goes through
different stages of infancy, childhood, youth, old age and finally
death. But during all these changes of the body and the mind, the self
(the inner sense of I-feeling) or the inner observer remains constant.
That's one way we can logically understand we are eternal.

The human life-form is unique in the sense that it allows the self to
understand its own eternality. So the purpose of human life is to
connect with the eternal self. If one is simply absorbed in the body
and its demands, one is wasting this valuable opportunity - an
opportunity that is only available in the human life-form. Eating,
sleeping, mating and defending, the soul can do in any life-form, but
only in the human form can the self connect with eternity, ie.
reality.

One attains the human form of life after transmigrating through
8,400,000 species by the process of gradual evolution. That human life
is spoiled for those conceited fools who do not take shelter of the
lotus feet of Govinda.

--Brahma-vaivarta Purana


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The mind basically thinks and acts
Yours doesn't.
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Yours doesn't.
Can a person be happy while being in denial of the truth?


Jahnu Das, Hare Krishna

The short answer to your question is, no. Surely, you can can
experience some temporary satisfaction from sense-gratification, but
lasting happiness will not happen without knowing the Absolute Truth.

Why this is so is explained in Bhagavad Gita. In Bhagavad Gita, people
of different mentalities and desires are described.

They come under three headings, and everything within the material
world is a combination of these three categories, or modes, as they
are called.

By observing people around you and referring to the scientific
presentation of these three categories in Bhagavad Gita, it becomes
easy to psychologically evaluate yourself and any other human with
minute accuracy.

The 3 modes of material nature - goodness, passion and ignorance - are
like the three primary colors. From the three prime colors all other
colors and shades of colors are made. Similarly, everything in the
material world - the body, the mind, the intelligence, the work, the
action, the mentality, the situation, is a unique mix of these 3
modes.

It's important to understand, that we are all a mixture of goodness,
passion and ignorance, but one of these mode always predominates.

So lets look at how different persons view the world according to the
three modes. Let us examine how they perceive reality. This is very
important because reality is all about perception and awareness.

A person in whom the mode of ignorance predominates will identify
people and himself by their work, usually what they do to make money
or what kind of degree and education they have. The work a person does
is the main determining factor of a person's identity. When we
identify a person as a soccer player, an actor or an artist, that’s
knowledge in the mode of ignorance.

A person in the mode of passion will identify other living entities
according to the body like gender, race and family they inhabit. You
identify people according to their body. That’s knowledge in the mode
of passion.

A person in the mode of goodness will identify people according to
their soul. He will see the same soul in all living entities. He won't
identify persons according to their work or their body, he will see
that all souls are part of the same whole, one energy. So in the mode
of goodness you will have a holistic world view. That’s knowledge in
the mode of goodness.

A person in the mode of ignorance will find his main enjoyment in
intoxication, sleep and dreaming. A person in the mode of passion will
find his main enjoyment in sex, power and prestige. A person in the
mode of goodness will find his main enjoyment in knowledge and
learning.

Again, it's important to note that you don't find people purely in one
mode, it's always a mix.

The mode of ignorance destroys, the mode of passion creates and the
mode of goodness preserves and maintains.

So you can have a person who goes to his job every day for 20 years.
That's maintaining, so that's the mode of goodness. But in his free
time he sits in the sofa watching TV and smoking a joint or having a
drink, that's the mode of ignorance. Or he is a big business man
making lots of money having power and prestige from some corporation.
That's the mode of passion. Or the scientist or philosopher who study
and gather knowledge. That's the mode of goodness.

Liberation, however, means to transcend these three modes. That's the
Brahman plane.

And beyond the Brahman plane is the Krishna plane where you act out
all your desires to give Krishna enjoyment.

That is the final stage and goal of human life.

Krishna says:

My dear Arjuna, because you are never envious of Me, I shall impart to
you this most confidential knowledge and realization, knowing which
you shall be relieved of the miseries of material existence. (Bg. 9.1)

This knowledge is the king of education, the most secret of all
secrets. It is the purest knowledge, and because it gives direct
perception of the self by realization, it is the perfection of
religion. It is everlasting, and it is joyfully performed. (Bg. 9.2)



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Can a person be happy while being in denial of the truth?
How would you know?
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How would you know?
Because, contrary to you, Birdbrain, I have tried both.

What is one thing that everyone wants but only one in the world gets
it?

What is the only thing in the world which chooses only one person or a
few people in the world, eventhough the whole world desires for it?

Freedom from suffering.

King Pariksit says:

In this material world there are as many living entities as atoms.
Among these living entities, a very few are human beings, and among
them, few are interested in following religious principles.

O best of the brahmanas, Sukadeva Gosvami, out of many persons who
follow religious principles, only a few desire liberation from the
material world. Among many thousands who desire liberation, one may
actually achieve liberation, giving up material attachment to society,
friendship, love, country, home, wife and children. And among many
thousands of such liberated persons, one who can understand the true
meaning of liberation is very rare.

O great sage, among many millions who are liberated and perfect in
knowledge of liberation, one may be a devotee of Lord Narayana, or
Krsna. Such devotees, who are fully peaceful, are extremely rare.
Srimad Bhagavatam 6.14.3-5

Krishna says:

After attaining Me, the great souls, who are yogis in devotion, never
return to this temporary world, which is full of miseries, because
they have attained the highest perfection. => Bg 8.15


PURPORT by Srila Prabhupada:

Since this temporary material world is full of the miseries of birth,
old age, disease and death, naturally he who achieves the highest
perfection and attains the supreme planet, Krsnaloka, Goloka
Vrndavana, does not wish to return. The supreme planet is described in
Vedic literature as avyakta and aksara and parama gati; in other
words, that planet is beyond our material vision, and it is
inexplicable, but it is the highest goal, the destination for the
mahatmas (great souls).

The mahatmas receive transcendental messages from the realized
devotees and thus gradually develop devotional service in Krsna
consciousness and become so absorbed in transcendental service that
they no longer desire elevation to any of the material planets, nor do
they even want to be transferred to any spiritual planet.

They only want Krsna and Krsna's association, and nothing else. That
is the highest perfection of life. This verse specifically mentions
the personalist devotees of the Supreme Lord, Krsna. These devotees in
Krsna consciousness achieve the highest perfection of life. In other
words, they are the supreme souls.





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How would you know?
Because, contrary to you, Birdbrain, I have tried both.
Keep your former sex life to yourself, Jesper, m'kay?

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WHEN ATHEISTS GET INTO POLITICAL POWER
Let me tell you about what happens when atheists gain political power.
Once, Russia was one of the richest and most influential countries of
Europe. When the atheists took over in 1917 they very quickly ran that
mighty country on it's ass into some impoverished condition
Literally none of that is true. Russia was one of the poorest
backwaters in Europe at the time of the October Revolution, and less
than 25 years later, the Communists had transformed it into the second
global super-power on Earth right behind the US. Jesper, you're
talking about recent history; absolutely NO ONE is going to be fooled
by this bullshit. You are a liar and an idiot. How proud Srila
Prabhupada must be of his disgraceful disciple!
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Atheists always moan and whine about proof and evidence. They seem to
forget that their own belief system, abiogenesis - ie. the funny idea
that matter creates life - is completely unfounded, blind belief. Why
don't atheists demand proof of that?

But this is the double-standard one is forced to accept as an atheist.
Stone-hard and cold facts are required to give credibility to the
opposition, but when it comes to one's own beliefs the same demands
are suddenly not required.

Anyhow, atheists always go on and on about scientific proof and
evidence. So then I offer the scientific proof - that if you maintain
an atheistic mentality, you will experience a lot more suffering and
frustration than if you accept to connect with Krishna. That is a test
anyone can perform and verify - Krishna conciousness brings greater
happiness in life and atheism brings greater misery and suffering in
life.

What people in general don't understand is that life in the material
world is basically one of suffering and frustration. It is so, because
Krishna has made it that way. The reason Krishna has designed it that
way, is because if things were perfect in the material world, the
fallen, lost souls would not want to go back to the spiritual world
and enjoy with Krishna. They would want to stay in the material world
and enjoy the body. Actually, this is what most people want, anyway -
stay in the material world and enjoy their senses. Krishna is even so
kind that a soul in the body of a worm in stool, thinks he is
enjoying. Even the souls living under the most hellish conditions
think they are enjoying. Apart from that, there are the heavenly
planets where the demigods enjoy bodily gratification to the max.
Anyone can go there by being pious, following the process devised by
God.

So the human form of life is a chance for the soul to get rid of all
suffering. A clever person will ask the question, why do I suffer? and
try to get rid of it. The human form of life is a chance for the soul
to get rid of all suffering. Atheism bars the human being from this
opportunity. Atheism just conditions the soul to more suffering.

Krishna says: From the highest planet in the material world down to
the lowest, all are places of misery wherein repeated birth and death
take place. But one who attains to My abode, O son of KuntI, never
takes birth again. (Bg. 8.16)

Humility; pridelessness; nonviolence; tolerance; simplicity;
approaching a bona fide spiritual master; cleanliness; steadiness;
self-control; renunciation of the objects of sense gratification;
absence of false ego; the perception of the evil of birth, death, old
age and disease; detachment; freedom from entanglement with children,
wife, home and the rest; even-mindedness amid pleasant and unpleasant
events; constant and unalloyed devotion to Me; aspiring to live in a
solitary place; detachment from the general mass of people; accepting
the importance of self-realization; and philosophical search for the
Absolute Truth—all these I declare to be knowledge, and besides this
whatever there may be is ignorance. (Bg.13. 8-12)

Note, that the perception of the evil of birth, death, old age and
disease is one of the symptoms of knowledge. Most people are
intelligent enough to understand they are suffering. Only animals
don't understand they are suffering. In the human form of life the
soul is given sufficient intelligence by nature to understand he is
suffering. Whether he will admit it here, is another matter.

So anyone who is serious about becoming free from suffering must
surrender to Krishna and God's laws. These laws are explained in the
Vedas. And anyone who maintains an atheistic mentality will suffer
repeatedly. That's the proof that atheism is bad for you. And anyone
who chants Krishna's name on a regular basis will experience great joy
and happiness in life. That's proof that Krishna is good for you. It's
as simple as that.

Krishna says:

O learned Uddhava, those who fix their consciousness on Me, giving up
all material desires, share with Me a happiness that cannot possibly
be experienced by those engaged in sense gratification.

--Srimad Bhagavatam 11.14.12


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2017-06-14 15:50:55 UTC
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Atheists always moan and whine about proof and evidence.
Which you can't provide, because you're a brainwashed idiot who keeps
spouting nonsense.
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Atheists always moan and whine about proof and evidence.
The psychopath lies through his teeth, to the very people he is lying
about,
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Which you can't provide, because you're a brainwashed idiot who keeps
spouting nonsense.
Is "put up or shut up" always bitching, moaning and whining according
to his deluded fantasies?

They all pretend they don't understand it. Often nastily.
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In the future the general population will lose their faith in the
materialistic view of life - gradual evolution, life from chemicals, a
random formation of the universe etc. - theories that are without
scientific evidence, theories that are met with increasing incredulity
by prominent scientists, but which are propagandized to the population
as scientific, well-established facts.

"Scientists who go about teaching that evolution is a fact of life are
great con-men, And the story they are telling may be the GREATEST HOAX
EVER." -- Dr.T.N.Tahmisian, Atomic Energy Commission

"We must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian
accounts of the evolution of any biochemical or cellular system, only
a variety of wishful speculations." -- Franklin Harold, Emeritus
Professor of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology at Colorado State
University, in an Oxford University Press text.

Due to the Bhakti-movement started in the 1500s by Sri Chaitanya
Mahaprabhu, who is Krishna Himself, and of which Hare Krishna is the
modern off-shoot, there is a trend of increasing awareness of God and
the spiritual dimensions of life happening in the world.

It’s a very slow process, this is after all Kali-yuga, the most
degraded of ages, but if we have some historical awareness, we will
know that the truth-sayers in any society have always begun as a
scorned and ridiculed minority.

Srila Prabhupada says:

Preaching is always difficult. That I am repeatedly saying. You cannot
take preaching as very easy-going. Preaching must be a fight. Do you
mean to say fighting is easy? Fighting is not easy. Whenever there is
a fight, there is danger, there is responsibility. What is preaching?
Because people are ignorant, we have to enlighten them. That is
preaching.

Our fighting is against atheism. They say, there is no God. God is
dead. I am God. You are God. We are fighting against these principles.
So our fighting is very strong. Don't think that we are sitting idly.
I have come here to fight with these atheists. We go everywhere. We
are fighting with atheists all over the world.

You cannot expect a favourable situation. And still you have to
preach. That is preaching. They will speak like madmen, so many
things. They are mad, after all. nunam pramattah kurute vikarma yad
indriya-pritaya aprnoti. They have no sense. All materialistic persons
are madmen. Still, by the order of superior, Caitanya Mahaprabhu, we
have to do this preaching work. Actually, the American boys are
fighting against so many unfavourable situations. They are sometimes
beaten in the airport, do you know that? Still they are preaching.
That is preaching.

The servant should be as good as the master. That is servant. Because
sometimes servants may be challenged. So that is the qualification of
Krsna's servant. Krsna's servant must be always equipped, because they
have to meet so many opposing elements...Practically the whole
material world is full of duskritam. They want to create God. They
don't want to become servant of God. That is their challenge.
Therefore, anyone who is claiming to become servant of God, Krsna, he
must be well equipped to meet the challenging spirit of others.

Following in the footsteps of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, all the
preachers engaged in the service of ISKCON should be very expert in
putting forward strong arguments and defeating all types of atheists.


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2017-06-15 13:19:19 UTC
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In the future the general population will lose their faith in the
materialistic view of life
You're delusional.
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What's the karma behind being murdered?

Jahnu Das, Vaishnava

The karma behind being murdered, is murder. At some point in your
existence you have murdered someone and as a reaction you are now
being murdered, either by the same person you murdered in your last
life or by someone else.

Actually, God doesn't make ugly people, nor does He make beautiful
people. People make themselves what they are. It's called karma. Or,
like it says in the Bible - as you sow you shall reap, which, BTW,
presupposes reincarnation. If you reap a certain type of body,
nationality, gender, fate etc. at birth, when was that sown except in
a previous life?

Someone might object - do you really mean to say, when a person is
born ugly, this is his or her own fault? How is that fair?

But which is more fair - that I create my own destiny by my own
actions. Or, like it's suggested in atheism - it's all just random,
and I have no say in how I get born? It's simply up to chance. Which
is more fair?

According to the law of karma, your actions in this life - how you
behave and treat other living entities - will determine your next
birth. Either that, or it's up to chance whether I am born into a
nice, caring, wealthy family, with good looks and good education, or I
get born to a junkie mother and an abusive father, whether I am born
as the king of Arabia or I'm born into a family in Syria on the run
from bombings and war. Which is more fair? Think about it.
--but, but if you believe in karma, if you believe that people create
their own destinies, that will make you uncaring and uncompassionate,
you will be indifferent to the plight of others, because when you see
a person suffer, you will know it's his own fault and you will think
that he just gets what he deserves.

Lets examine the logic behind this idea for a minute. So you are
saying, that if I know the reason behind someone's suffering, if I
know that the person created his own suffering by his own actions,
that will make me less compassionate towards him? And if I think it's
all just random chance, how people suffer or enjoy, that will make me
a more compassionate and caring person?

How does this make sense? Say, a doctor tells Mr. Olsen - don't smoke
three packs of cigarettes a day, you will get lung cancer. Then 10
years later Mr. Olsen is diagnosed with cancer. Does, the doctor then
tell Mr. Olsen - I told you so, it's your own fault, now, get out
here. Or does the doctor still feel sorry for the man and try to help
him? What do you think?

Or a mother tells her child, don't stick your hand in the fire, you
will burn yourself, and then the child goes and does just that -
sticks his hand in fire. Then, when the child comes running to his
mother, crying - I burned myself, it hurts. Will the mother be
tender-hearted towards her child and try to comfort him/her? Or will
she say - I told you so, now stop your whining.

Which is it? Think about it.

It makes absolutely no sense to say that knowing the law of karma,
makes a person more uncaring and cold-hearted than if a person
believes it's all just random chance. It's like saying that knowledge
makes a person less compassionate than ignorance.

If you say, that everything is ultimately random chance, what you are
really saying is that you don't know the reason behind it. You are
professing ignorance and trying to make that into some noble
reasoning.

Let me give you a practical example. According to Manu-samhita,
someone who kills a cow will have to take birth as a cow and be killed
in the same way, as many times as there are hairs on the cow's body.
So I know that all the cows being slaughtered in modern society, used
to be people who killed cows. Do I feel less sorry for the cows
standing in line in the slaughter house, waiting to be killed? Nope. I
still feel sorry for them. I'm still a vegetarian because I don't want
to support this senseless mass-murder on animals.

I know for a fact that even though I know the law of karma and how it
works, it doesn't make me feel less sorry for the suffering people of
this world. In fact, knowing that people are ultimately the makers of
their own destiny puts me in a better position to help them, rather
than if I think, - too bad, it's just chance. How can you guard
yourself or others against chance? The answer is, you can't.

Krishna says:

One who is not envious but is a kind friend to all living entities,
who does not think himself a proprietor and is free from false ego,
who is equal in both happiness and distress, who is tolerant, always
satisfied, self-controlled, and engaged in devotional service with
determination, his mind and intelligence fixed on Me - such a devotee
of Mine is very dear to Me. -Bg 12.13-14


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2017-06-16 13:11:37 UTC
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Actually, God doesn't make ugly people, nor does He make beautiful
people. People make themselves what they are. It's called karma. Or,
like it says in the Bible - as you sow you shall reap, which, BTW,
presupposes reincarnation
No, it doesn't. Hebrews 9:27 explicitly contradicts that notion. As
usual, you're shooting off your mouth about topics of which you are
completely ignorant.
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No, it doesn't. Hebrews 9:27 explicitly contradicts that notion. As
usual, you're shooting off your mouth about topics of which you are
completely ignorant.
"The religion and philosophy of the Hebrews are those of a wilder and
ruder tribe, wanting the civility and intellectual refinements and
subtlety of Vedic culture." - Henry David Thoreau


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2017-06-06 21:30:49 UTC
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http://youtu.be/44OoZ6GfmK0 - iskcon 50 years
Evasion noted.
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2017-06-06 21:29:54 UTC
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Oh, look, Brave Sir Jesper is bravely running away from his latest
fuck-up! What a loser!
Still here, Birdbrain, to smack you down every time you open you ugly
meat-trap :D
You can't do that if all you ever do is make yourself look stupid, which is all you ever do.
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http://youtu.be/kyV_Af95zXU
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2017-06-11 21:52:42 UTC
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https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1523966677621438&set=a.270100376341414.71781.100000243609591&type=3
This is the idiocy Jesper posted this time:

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Ken Horlick


Beware of so-called scientists and intellectuals alleging that atheism is supported by science and reason - as a scientist myself, I can tell you that nothing could be further from the truth. Atheism is a chosen worldview, belief, or way of seeing the world that doesn't match our empirical observations, so in order to 'force' it to seem to make sense, scientific observations are interpreted in a biased way and used to create imaginary or speculative theories or scenarios that fit within the worldview. This is scientism, not science. Any thoughtful person who carefully contemplates this will quickly realize that bona fide theism is rational and in agreement with our empirical observation of the world, while atheism is utterly inconsistent with what we observe and is therefore highly irrational.


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2017-06-09 00:09:01 UTC
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Atheists have claimed the right to define natural.
Where have we done any such thing?
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Atheists have claimed the right to define natural.
Where have we done any such thing?
An even better question is where someone like Jesper who doesn't speak
English as their first language finds the chutzpah to try to tell
native speakers of it how words should be defined.
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Atheists have claimed the right to define natural.
Jesper's usual lie.
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Where have we done any such thing?
An even better question is where someone like Jesper who doesn't speak
English as their first language finds the chutzpah to try to tell
native speakers of it how words should be defined.
It might not be his first language, but most Danes speak excellent
English as well as the other Scandinavian languages and German.

It is highy possible that Hindi is Jesper's fifth language.

Being multilingual is about the only thing that earns him any respect.
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Atheists have claimed the right to define natural.
Jesper's usual lie.
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Where have we done any such thing?
An even better question is where someone like Jesper who doesn't speak
English as their first language finds the chutzpah to try to tell
native speakers of it how words should be defined.
It might not be his first language, but most Danes speak excellent
English as well as the other Scandinavian languages and German.
I'll grant that Jesper's English is excellent. But not as impressive
as his hubris.
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It is highy possible that Hindi is Jesper's fifth language.
Being multilingual is about the only thing that earns him any respect.
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Atheists have claimed the right to define natural.
Where have we done any such thing?
In the empty space between his ears.
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http://www.elephantjournal.com/2016/06/leonardo-dicaprio-joins-powerful-forces-to-rally-for-a-ban-on-beef/
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2017-06-09 16:34:17 UTC
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Funny to see you reduced to a squawking crow who can only stupidly
deny irrefutable, empiric facts :)
Do you know understan how atheism has damaged your mind?
'Know understan'. Sounds like you're the one whose brain needs a bandaid.
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Meditation means to concentrate on one single point.
Says the guy with the attention span of a mayfly.
And who bitches, moans an whines in every message. Jesper is too dense
to understand that by repeating the same three words over and over, he
is the one who bitches, moans and whines all the time. He's always been
pathetic.
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