Will The Last Catholic To Leave The Faith Please Blow Out The Candles?

[Mitchell Holman]

Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015

A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.

And perhaps more troubling for the church, for
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent
of all Americans describing themselves as "former
Catholics."

The big winner in terms of growing numbers is the
unaffiliated, or the so-called "nones," shooting
up to about 23 percent of the total population from
just 16 percent seven years ago. The 56 million adults
not belonging to any faith tradition outnumber both
Catholics and mainline Protestants.

http://tinyurl.com/qhbtme2




More Than 1,000 Mexicans Leave Catholic Church Daily
Nov 16 2015

MEXICO CITY – More than 1,000 Mexicans left the Catholic
Church every day over the last decade, adding up to some
4 million fallen-away Catholics between 2000 and 2010,
sociologist and historian Roberto Blancarte told Efe.

Blancarte, one of the nation’s outstanding specialists
on religious subjects, said that one of the main conclusions
to be drawn from the 2010 census is that Mexico is no longer
a predominantly Catholic country and has become a nation of
religious pluralism.
http://www.laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=390745&CategoryId=14091

[•RLMeasures]

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent
of all Americans describing themselves as "former
Catholics."

€€ I can think of no scandel that would cause more marginialization than
priests butt fucking boys with higher ups trying to cover it up.

Post by Mitchell Holman
The big winner in terms of growing numbers is the
unaffiliated, or the so-called "nones," shooting
up to about 23 percent of the total population from
just 16 percent seven years ago. The 56 million adults
not belonging to any faith tradition outnumber both
Catholics and mainline Protestants.
http://tinyurl.com/qhbtme2
More Than 1,000 Mexicans Leave Catholic Church Daily
Nov 16 2015
MEXICO CITY – More than 1,000 Mexicans left the Catholic
Church every day over the last decade, adding up to some
4 million fallen-away Catholics between 2000 and 2010,
sociologist and historian Roberto Blancarte told Efe.
Blancarte, one of the nation’s outstanding specialists
on religious subjects, said that one of the main conclusions
to be drawn from the 2010 census is that Mexico is no longer
a predominantly Catholic country and has become a nation of
religious pluralism.
http://www.laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=390745&CategoryId=14091

[Gordon]

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Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent
of all Americans describing themselves as "former
Catholics."

€€ I can think of no scandel that would cause more marginialization than
priests butt fucking boys with higher ups trying to cover it up.

Why do you suppose Satan would work so diligently, leading people to
do things like this? The only answer I can come up with is that Satan
is still very actively trying to turn people away from God. Gordon

Post by •RLMeasures

Post by Mitchell Holman
The big winner in terms of growing numbers is the
unaffiliated, or the so-called "nones," shooting
up to about 23 percent of the total population from
just 16 percent seven years ago. The 56 million adults
not belonging to any faith tradition outnumber both
Catholics and mainline Protestants.
http://tinyurl.com/qhbtme2
More Than 1,000 Mexicans Leave Catholic Church Daily
Nov 16 2015
MEXICO CITY – More than 1,000 Mexicans left the Catholic
Church every day over the last decade, adding up to some
4 million fallen-away Catholics between 2000 and 2010,
sociologist and historian Roberto Blancarte told Efe.
Blancarte, one of the nation’s outstanding specialists
on religious subjects, said that one of the main conclusions
to be drawn from the 2010 census is that Mexico is no longer
a predominantly Catholic country and has become a nation of
religious pluralism.
http://www.laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=390745&CategoryId=14091

[•RLMeasures]

Post by Gordon

Post by •RLMeasures

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent
of all Americans describing themselves as "former
Catholics."

€€ I can think of no scandel that would cause more marginialization than
priests butt fucking boys with higher ups trying to cover it up.

Why do you suppose Satan would work so diligently, leading people to
do things like this?

€€€ I don't suppose. Satan had not a damn thing to do with the altar-boy
scandal. That was entirely the Roman Church's creation.

Post by Gordon
The only answer I can come up with is that Satan
is still very actively trying to turn people away from God. Gordon

Post by •RLMeasures

Post by Mitchell Holman
The big winner in terms of growing numbers is the
unaffiliated, or the so-called "nones," shooting
up to about 23 percent of the total population from
just 16 percent seven years ago. The 56 million adults
not belonging to any faith tradition outnumber both
Catholics and mainline Protestants.
http://tinyurl.com/qhbtme2
More Than 1,000 Mexicans Leave Catholic Church Daily
Nov 16 2015
MEXICO CITY – More than 1,000 Mexicans left the Catholic
Church every day over the last decade, adding up to some
4 million fallen-away Catholics between 2000 and 2010,
sociologist and historian Roberto Blancarte told Efe.
Blancarte, one of the nation’s outstanding specialists
on religious subjects, said that one of the main conclusions
to be drawn from the 2010 census is that Mexico is no longer
a predominantly Catholic country and has become a nation of
religious pluralism.
http://www.laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=390745&CategoryId=14091

[duke]

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Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent
of all Americans describing themselves as "former
Catholics."

€€ I can think of no scandel that would cause more marginialization than
priests butt fucking boys with higher ups trying to cover it up.

Why do you suppose Satan would work so diligently, leading people to
do things like this?

€€€ I don't suppose. Satan had not a damn thing to do with the altar-boy
scandal. That was entirely the Roman Church's creation.

RL, you're showing your immaturity. All sin is 100% satan driven.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

[raven1]

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Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent
of all Americans describing themselves as "former
Catholics."

€€ I can think of no scandel that would cause more marginialization than
priests butt fucking boys with higher ups trying to cover it up.

Why do you suppose Satan would work so diligently, leading people to
do things like this?

€€€ I don't suppose. Satan had not a damn thing to do with the altar-boy
scandal. That was entirely the Roman Church's creation.

RL, you're showing your immaturity. All sin is 100% satan driven.

That's borderline heresy. It implicitly denies both free will and
original sin. You've got some 'splaining to do.

[Dreamer In Colore]

On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 08:44:14 -0500, raven1

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Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent
of all Americans describing themselves as "former
Catholics."

€€ I can think of no scandel that would cause more marginialization than
priests butt fucking boys with higher ups trying to cover it up.

Why do you suppose Satan would work so diligently, leading people to
do things like this?

€€€ I don't suppose. Satan had not a damn thing to do with the altar-boy
scandal. That was entirely the Roman Church's creation.

RL, you're showing your immaturity. All sin is 100% satan driven.

That's borderline heresy. It implicitly denies both free will and
original sin. You've got some 'splaining to do.

Well-played.

[duke]

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Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent
of all Americans describing themselves as "former
Catholics."

€€ I can think of no scandel that would cause more marginialization than
priests butt fucking boys with higher ups trying to cover it up.

Why do you suppose Satan would work so diligently, leading people to
do things like this?

€€€ I don't suppose. Satan had not a damn thing to do with the altar-boy
scandal. That was entirely the Roman Church's creation.

RL, you're showing your immaturity. All sin is 100% satan driven.

That's borderline heresy. It implicitly denies both free will and
original sin. You've got some 'splaining to do.

God in our heart says to love our neighbor as ourselves. Satan in our heart say
to put self first.

It's your choice who you choose to listen to.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

[raven1]

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Post by Gordon

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Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent
of all Americans describing themselves as "former
Catholics."

€€ I can think of no scandel that would cause more marginialization than
priests butt fucking boys with higher ups trying to cover it up.

Why do you suppose Satan would work so diligently, leading people to
do things like this?

€€€ I don't suppose. Satan had not a damn thing to do with the altar-boy
scandal. That was entirely the Roman Church's creation.

RL, you're showing your immaturity. All sin is 100% satan driven.

That's borderline heresy. It implicitly denies both free will and
original sin. You've got some 'splaining to do.

God in our heart says to love our neighbor as ourselves. Satan in our heart say
to put self first.

Humans, by our fallen nature, are quite able to do that without
Satan's urging. Go back and re-read your catechism about original sin.

Post by duke
It's your choice who you choose to listen to.

OK, so you get a pass on free will.

[duke]

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Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent
of all Americans describing themselves as "former
Catholics."

€€ I can think of no scandel that would cause more marginialization than
priests butt fucking boys with higher ups trying to cover it up.

Why do you suppose Satan would work so diligently, leading people to
do things like this?

€€€ I don't suppose. Satan had not a damn thing to do with the altar-boy
scandal. That was entirely the Roman Church's creation.

RL, you're showing your immaturity. All sin is 100% satan driven.

That's borderline heresy. It implicitly denies both free will and
original sin. You've got some 'splaining to do.

God in our heart says to love our neighbor as ourselves. Satan in our heart say
to put self first.

Humans, by our fallen nature, are quite able to do that without
Satan's urging. Go back and re-read your catechism about original sin.

Yet it is your saying yes to satan in your heart that you follow him.

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Post by duke
It's your choice who you choose to listen to.

OK, so you get a pass on free will.

Not at all. I choose God - freely.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

[raven1]

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Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent
of all Americans describing themselves as "former
Catholics."

€€ I can think of no scandel that would cause more marginialization than
priests butt fucking boys with higher ups trying to cover it up.

Why do you suppose Satan would work so diligently, leading people to
do things like this?

€€€ I don't suppose. Satan had not a damn thing to do with the altar-boy
scandal. That was entirely the Roman Church's creation.

RL, you're showing your immaturity. All sin is 100% satan driven.

That's borderline heresy. It implicitly denies both free will and
original sin. You've got some 'splaining to do.

God in our heart says to love our neighbor as ourselves. Satan in our heart say
to put self first.

Humans, by our fallen nature, are quite able to do that without
Satan's urging. Go back and re-read your catechism about original sin.

Yet it is your saying yes to satan in your heart that you follow him.

Again, go re-read your catechism about original sin. You have a
kindergarten-level understanding of the issue.

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Post by duke
It's your choice who you choose to listen to.

OK, so you get a pass on free will.

Not at all. I choose God - freely.

Your inability to read a sentence accurately gets funnier with every
post.

[duke]

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Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent
of all Americans describing themselves as "former
Catholics."

€€ I can think of no scandel that would cause more marginialization than
priests butt fucking boys with higher ups trying to cover it up.

Why do you suppose Satan would work so diligently, leading people to
do things like this?

€€€ I don't suppose. Satan had not a damn thing to do with the altar-boy
scandal. That was entirely the Roman Church's creation.

RL, you're showing your immaturity. All sin is 100% satan driven.

That's borderline heresy. It implicitly denies both free will and
original sin. You've got some 'splaining to do.

God in our heart says to love our neighbor as ourselves. Satan in our heart say
to put self first.

Humans, by our fallen nature, are quite able to do that without
Satan's urging. Go back and re-read your catechism about original sin.

Yet it is your saying yes to satan in your heart that you follow him.

Again, go re-read your catechism about original sin. You have a
kindergarten-level understanding of the issue.

If there was anything, you would have brought it out.

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It's your choice who you choose to listen to.

OK, so you get a pass on free will.

Not at all. I choose God - freely.

Your inability to read a sentence accurately gets funnier with every
post.

And your 'nothing comments reflect your total inability to make a stupid point,
or better yet, a comment that is not stupid..

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

[raven1]

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Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent
of all Americans describing themselves as "former
Catholics."

€€ I can think of no scandel that would cause more marginialization than
priests butt fucking boys with higher ups trying to cover it up.

Why do you suppose Satan would work so diligently, leading people to
do things like this?

€€€ I don't suppose. Satan had not a damn thing to do with the altar-boy
scandal. That was entirely the Roman Church's creation.

RL, you're showing your immaturity. All sin is 100% satan driven.

That's borderline heresy. It implicitly denies both free will and
original sin. You've got some 'splaining to do.

God in our heart says to love our neighbor as ourselves. Satan in our heart say
to put self first.

Humans, by our fallen nature, are quite able to do that without
Satan's urging. Go back and re-read your catechism about original sin.

Yet it is your saying yes to satan in your heart that you follow him.

Again, go re-read your catechism about original sin. You have a
kindergarten-level understanding of the issue.

If there was anything, you would have brought it out.

I already did. Scroll up 4 paragraphs.

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It's your choice who you choose to listen to.

OK, so you get a pass on free will.

Not at all. I choose God - freely.

Your inability to read a sentence accurately gets funnier with every
post.

And your 'nothing comments reflect your total inability to make a stupid point,

ROTFLMFAO! You are pure comedy gold, Duke! Re-read what you wrote
there. That's not what you intended to say.

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or better yet, a comment that is not stupid..

People who live in glass houses...

[PATRICK]

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People who live in glass houses...

Raven, instead of whining about something over a dozen posts, why not
just ask what the position IS concerning the subject?
Would you like a lesson on something?
Or do you just like to whine?

[hypatiab7]

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Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent - or one-fifth - of
the total population.
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent
of all Americans describing themselves as "former
Catholics."

EURO EURO I can think of no scandel that would cause more marginialization than
priests butt fucking boys with higher ups trying to cover it up.

Why do you suppose Satan would work so diligently, leading people to
do things like this?

EURO EURO EURO I don't suppose. Satan had not a damn thing to do with the altar-boy
scandal. That was entirely the Roman Church's creation.

RL, you're showing your immaturity. All sin is 100% satan driven.

That's borderline heresy. It implicitly denies both free will and
original sin. You've got some 'splaining to do.

God in our heart says to love our neighbor as ourselves. Satan in our heart say to put self first.
It's your choice who you choose to listen to.

18 years you've been spewing your religious nonsense in an atheist newsgroup.
You have not converted or 'saved' anyone. Please keep your failure to yourself.
You are nothing but a total failure here. You are nothing but a pity troll.

the dukester, American Time Waster

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Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent
of all Americans describing themselves as "former
Catholics."

€€ I can think of no scandel that would cause more marginialization than
priests butt fucking boys with higher ups trying to cover it up.

Why do you suppose Satan would work so diligently, leading people to
do things like this?

€€€ I don't suppose. Satan had not a damn thing to do with the altar-boy
scandal. That was entirely the Roman Church's creation.

RL, you're showing your immaturity. All sin is 100% satan driven.

€€€€ As I see it a large part of sin is driven by God's pheremones. In
7th Grade Homeroom I was assigned a seat directly behind a blonde Jewess
who caused spontaneous penile erections at distances of 30-ft. Her father
happened to be our family physician.

[duke]

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Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent
of all Americans describing themselves as "former
Catholics."

€€ I can think of no scandel that would cause more marginialization than
priests butt fucking boys with higher ups trying to cover it up.

Why do you suppose Satan would work so diligently, leading people to
do things like this?

€€€ I don't suppose. Satan had not a damn thing to do with the altar-boy
scandal. That was entirely the Roman Church's creation.

RL, you're showing your immaturity. All sin is 100% satan driven.

€€€€ As I see it a large part of sin is driven by God's pheremones.

Nope. 100% by satan's sweet smell to those that want to put self first.

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7th Grade Homeroom I was assigned a seat directly behind a blonde Jewess
who caused spontaneous penile erections at distances of 30-ft. Her father
happened to be our family physician.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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[•RLMeasures]

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Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent
of all Americans describing themselves as "former
Catholics."

€€ I can think of no scandel that would cause more

marginialization than

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priests butt fucking boys with higher ups trying to cover it up.

Why do you suppose Satan would work so diligently, leading people to
do things like this?

€€€ I don't suppose. Satan had not a damn thing to do with the altar-boy
scandal. That was entirely the Roman Church's creation.

RL, you're showing your immaturity. All sin is 100% satan driven.

€€€€ As I see it a large part of sin is driven by God's pheremones.

Nope. 100% by satan's sweet smell to those that want to put self first.

€€€€€ Human males can not perceive the smell of female pheremones,
however, the male's Jacobs gland does and causes blood flow to the penis
to increase with only too obvious results.

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[hypatiab7]

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Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent - or one-fifth - of
the total population.
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent
of all Americans describing themselves as "former
Catholics."

EURO EURO I can think of no scandel that would cause more marginialization than
priests butt fucking boys with higher ups trying to cover it up.

Why do you suppose Satan would work so diligently, leading people to
do things like this?

EURO EURO EURO I don't suppose. Satan had not a damn thing to do with the altar-boy
scandal. That was entirely the Roman Church's creation.

RL, you're showing your immaturity. All sin is 100% satan driven.

You are showing your ignorance and immaturity. You still haven't provided
evidence of the existence of your 'God', you Jesus and your Satan. You also
haven't provided evidence of your heaven, your hell or your apostles. You
have yet to back up your entire myth. The Bible is not acceptable evidence of anything.

Post by duke
the dukester, American Ignoramus

[b***@m.nu]

Post by Gordon

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent
of all Americans describing themselves as "former
Catholics."

€€ I can think of no scandel that would cause more marginialization than
priests butt fucking boys with higher ups trying to cover it up.

Why do you suppose Satan would work so diligently, leading people to
do things like this?

€€€ I don't suppose. Satan had not a damn thing to do with the altar-boy
scandal. That was entirely the Roman Church's creation.

you know you may be right.... god did it, it was all underr its
influence that the alter children were sexually abused

Post by Gordon
The only answer I can come up with is that Satan
is still very actively trying to turn people away from God. Gordon

Post by Mitchell Holman
The big winner in terms of growing numbers is the
unaffiliated, or the so-called "nones," shooting
up to about 23 percent of the total population from
just 16 percent seven years ago. The 56 million adults
not belonging to any faith tradition outnumber both
Catholics and mainline Protestants.
http://tinyurl.com/qhbtme2
More Than 1,000 Mexicans Leave Catholic Church Daily
Nov 16 2015
MEXICO CITY – More than 1,000 Mexicans left the Catholic
Church every day over the last decade, adding up to some
4 million fallen-away Catholics between 2000 and 2010,
sociologist and historian Roberto Blancarte told Efe.
Blancarte, one of the nation’s outstanding specialists
on religious subjects, said that one of the main conclusions
to be drawn from the 2010 census is that Mexico is no longer
a predominantly Catholic country and has become a nation of
religious pluralism.
http://www.laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=390745&CategoryId=14091

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Holman

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Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
=20
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds=20
that the total number of Catholics in the United=20
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now=20
comprising about 20 percent =E2=80=93 or one-fifth =E2=80=93 of=20
the total population.
=20
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for=20
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics=20
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism=20
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate=20
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent=20
of all Americans describing themselves as "former=20
Catholics."

=E2=82=AC=E2=82=AC I can think of no scandel that would cause more =

marginialization than

Post by Gordon

priests butt fucking boys with higher ups trying to cover it up.

Why do you suppose Satan would work so diligently, leading people to
do things like this?=20

=E2=82=AC=E2=82=AC=E2=82=AC I don't suppose. Satan had not a damn =

thing to do with the altar-boy

scandal. That was entirely the Roman Church's creation.=20

you know you may be right.... god did it, it was all underr its
influence that the alter children were sexually abused

¶ I did not say God had anything to do with it. If God was influencing
the RCC He would surely have told them that butt fucking altar boys was
certain to create bad press.

[b***@m.nu]

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Post by Gordon
=20

Holman

Post by Gordon

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
=20
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds=20
that the total number of Catholics in the United=20
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now=20
comprising about 20 percent =E2=80=93 or one-fifth =E2=80=93 of=20
the total population.
=20
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for=20
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics=20
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism=20
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate=20
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent=20
of all Americans describing themselves as "former=20
Catholics."

=E2=82=AC=E2=82=AC I can think of no scandel that would cause more =

marginialization than

Post by Gordon

priests butt fucking boys with higher ups trying to cover it up.

Why do you suppose Satan would work so diligently, leading people to
do things like this?=20

=E2=82=AC=E2=82=AC=E2=82=AC I don't suppose. Satan had not a damn =

thing to do with the altar-boy

scandal. That was entirely the Roman Church's creation.=20

you know you may be right.... god did it, it was all underr its
influence that the alter children were sexually abused

¶ I did not say God had anything to do with it. If God was influencing
the RCC He would surely have told them that butt fucking altar boys was
certain to create bad press.

The christian god isnt always up front with all the information.. it
is a incredibly stupid imaginary god

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Mitchell =3D

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Holman

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Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
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Post by Mitchell Holman
the total population.
=3D20
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for=3D20
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics=3D20
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism=3D20
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate=3D20
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent=3D20
of all Americans describing themselves as "former=3D20
Catholics."

=3DE2=3D82=3DAC=3DE2=3D82=3DAC I can think of no scandel that =

would cause more =3D

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marginialization than

priests butt fucking boys with higher ups trying to cover it up.

Why do you suppose Satan would work so diligently, leading people =

to

Post by MattB

do things like this?=3D20

=3DE2=3D82=3DAC=3DE2=3D82=3DAC=3DE2=3D82=3DAC I don't suppose. =

Satan had not a damn =3D

Post by MattB
thing to do with the altar-boy

scandal. That was entirely the Roman Church's creation.=3D20

=20
you know you may be right.... god did it, it was all underr its
influence that the alter children were sexually abused

=C2=B6 I did not say God had anything to do with it. If God was =

influencing

the RCC He would surely have told them that butt fucking altar boys was
certain to create bad press.

The christian god isnt always up front with all the information.. it
is a incredibly stupid imaginary god.

€€ /at 13.7 billion years he's getting old enough to have senile dementia.

[The Chief Castrator Of The Jews]

Post by b***@m.nu

Post by •RLMeasures

Post by MattB

Post by Gordon
=20

Holman

Post by Gordon

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
=20
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds=20
that the total number of Catholics in the United=20
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now=20
comprising about 20 percent =E2=80=93 or one-fifth =E2=80=93 of=20
the total population.
=20
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for=20
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics=20
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism=20
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate=20
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent=20
of all Americans describing themselves as "former=20
Catholics."

=E2=82=AC=E2=82=AC I can think of no scandel that would cause more =

marginialization than

Post by Gordon

priests butt fucking boys with higher ups trying to cover it up.

Why do you suppose Satan would work so diligently, leading people to
do things like this?=20

=E2=82=AC=E2=82=AC=E2=82=AC I don't suppose. Satan had not a damn =

thing to do with the altar-boy

scandal. That was entirely the Roman Church's creation.=20

you know you may be right.... god did it, it was all underr its
influence that the alter children were sexually abused

¶ I did not say God had anything to do with it. If God was influencing
the RCC He would surely have told them that butt fucking altar boys was
certain to create bad press.

The christian god isnt always up front with all the information.. it
is a incredibly stupid imaginary god

There is but one God... JESUS IS HIS NAME

[b***@m.nu]

On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 09:45:04 -0800 (PST), The Chief Castrator Of The

Post by The Chief Castrator Of The Jews

Post by b***@m.nu

Post by •RLMeasures

Post by MattB

Post by Gordon
=20

Holman

Post by Gordon

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
=20
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds=20
that the total number of Catholics in the United=20
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now=20
comprising about 20 percent =E2=80=93 or one-fifth =E2=80=93 of=20
the total population.
=20
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for=20
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics=20
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism=20
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate=20
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent=20
of all Americans describing themselves as "former=20
Catholics."

=E2=82=AC=E2=82=AC I can think of no scandel that would cause more =

marginialization than

Post by Gordon

priests butt fucking boys with higher ups trying to cover it up.

Why do you suppose Satan would work so diligently, leading people to
do things like this?=20

=E2=82=AC=E2=82=AC=E2=82=AC I don't suppose. Satan had not a damn =

thing to do with the altar-boy

scandal. That was entirely the Roman Church's creation.=20

you know you may be right.... god did it, it was all underr its
influence that the alter children were sexually abused

¶ I did not say God had anything to do with it. If God was influencing
the RCC He would surely have told them that butt fucking altar boys was
certain to create bad press.

The christian god isnt always up front with all the information.. it
is a incredibly stupid imaginary god

There is but one God... JESUS IS HIS NAME

LOL, are you sure it isnt thor or maybe hercules?

hell hercules was fathered from a good that raped a virgin female just
like your god....

[Olrik]

Post by The Chief Castrator Of The Jews

Post by b***@m.nu

Post by •RLMeasures

Post by MattB

Post by Gordon
=20

Holman

Post by Gordon

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
=20
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds=20
that the total number of Catholics in the United=20
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now=20
comprising about 20 percent =E2=80=93 or one-fifth =E2=80=93 of=20
the total population.
=20
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for=20
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics=20
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism=20
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate=20
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent=20
of all Americans describing themselves as "former=20
Catholics."

=E2=82=AC=E2=82=AC I can think of no scandel that would cause more =

marginialization than

Post by Gordon

priests butt fucking boys with higher ups trying to cover it up.

Why do you suppose Satan would work so diligently, leading people to
do things like this?=20

=E2=82=AC=E2=82=AC=E2=82=AC I don't suppose. Satan had not a damn =

thing to do with the altar-boy

scandal. That was entirely the Roman Church's creation.=20

you know you may be right.... god did it, it was all underr its
influence that the alter children were sexually abused

¶ I did not say God had anything to do with it. If God was influencing
the RCC He would surely have told them that butt fucking altar boys was
certain to create bad press.

The christian god isnt always up front with all the information.. it
is a incredibly stupid imaginary god

There is but one God... JESUS IS HIS NAME

What about «allah»? Are you an apostate?

[WeHang FagZ]

Post by Olrik

Post by The Chief Castrator Of The Jews

Post by b***@m.nu

Post by •RLMeasures

Post by MattB

Post by Gordon
=20

Holman

Post by Gordon

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
=20
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds=20
that the total number of Catholics in the United=20
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now=20
comprising about 20 percent =E2=80=93 or one-fifth =E2=80=93 of=20
the total population.
=20
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for=20
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics=20
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism=20
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate=20
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent=20
of all Americans describing themselves as "former=20
Catholics."

=E2=82=AC=E2=82=AC I can think of no scandel that would cause more =

marginialization than

Post by Gordon

priests butt fucking boys with higher ups trying to cover it up.

Why do you suppose Satan would work so diligently, leading people to
do things like this?=20

=E2=82=AC=E2=82=AC=E2=82=AC I don't suppose. Satan had not a damn =

thing to do with the altar-boy

scandal. That was entirely the Roman Church's creation.=20

you know you may be right.... god did it, it was all underr its
influence that the alter children were sexually abused

¶ I did not say God had anything to do with it. If God was influencing
the RCC He would surely have told them that butt fucking altar boys was
certain to create bad press.

The christian god isnt always up front with all the information.. it
is a incredibly stupid imaginary god

There is but one God... JESUS IS HIS NAME

What about «allah»? Are you an apostate?

Allah is a generic name for deity in Arabic, Deo in Latin.
Gloria in excelsis Deo is the praise which frequently comes up in Catholic liturgy. Though you don't hear JESUS name, everyone thinks about Jesus. YOU ARE STILL A CHILD IN YOUR SCHOOLING

Post by Olrik
--
Olrik
aa #1981
EAC Chief Food Inspector, Bacon Division

[MattB]

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Post by The Chief Castrator Of The Jews

Post by b***@m.nu

Post by •RLMeasures

Post by MattB

Post by Gordon
=20

Holman

Post by Gordon

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
=20
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds=20
that the total number of Catholics in the United=20
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now=20
comprising about 20 percent =E2=80=93 or one-fifth =E2=80=93 of=20
the total population.
=20
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for=20
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics=20
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism=20
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate=20
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent=20
of all Americans describing themselves as "former=20
Catholics."

=E2=82=AC=E2=82=AC I can think of no scandel that would cause more =

marginialization than

Post by Gordon

priests butt fucking boys with higher ups trying to cover it up.

Why do you suppose Satan would work so diligently, leading people to
do things like this?=20

=E2=82=AC=E2=82=AC=E2=82=AC I don't suppose. Satan had not a damn =

thing to do with the altar-boy

scandal. That was entirely the Roman Church's creation.=20

you know you may be right.... god did it, it was all underr its
influence that the alter children were sexually abused

¶ I did not say God had anything to do with it. If God was influencing
the RCC He would surely have told them that butt fucking altar boys was
certain to create bad press.

The christian god isnt always up front with all the information.. it
is a incredibly stupid imaginary god

There is but one God... JESUS IS HIS NAME

What about «allah»? Are you an apostate?

Think most Christians place the words of Paul before those of Jesus.
Allah is a god of terrorist with Muhammad being the first.

[Mitchell Holman]

Post by Gordon

Post by •RLMeasures

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent
of all Americans describing themselves as "former
Catholics."

€€ I can think of no scandel that would cause more marginialization
than priests butt fucking boys with higher ups trying to cover it up.

Why do you suppose Satan would work so diligently, leading people to
do things like this? The only answer I can come up with is that Satan
is still very actively trying to turn people away from God. Gordon

If your god is powerless to protect little
alter boys and girls why to bother worshipping
him?

[•RLMeasures]

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon

Post by •RLMeasures

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent
of all Americans describing themselves as "former
Catholics."

€€ I can think of no scandel that would cause more marginialization
than priests butt fucking boys with higher ups trying to cover it up.

Why do you suppose Satan would work so diligently, leading people to
do things like this? The only answer I can come up with is that Satan
is still very actively trying to turn people away from God. Gordon

If your god is powerless to protect little
alter boys

€€ The Roman Church has altar boys. Caitlyn Jenner is an alter boy.

Post by Mitchell Holman
and girls why to bother worshipping
him?

€€ Any god that wants to be worshipped is immediately and irrevocably suspect.

[Les Hellawell]

On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 20:40:27 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon

Post by •RLMeasures

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent
of all Americans describing themselves as "former
Catholics."

€€ I can think of no scandel that would cause more marginialization
than priests butt fucking boys with higher ups trying to cover it up.

Why do you suppose Satan would work so diligently, leading people to
do things like this? The only answer I can come up with is that Satan
is still very actively trying to turn people away from God. Gordon

If your god is powerless to protect little
alter boys and girls why to bother worshipping
him?

and don't forget the 'priesthood' is described (by the catholics
themselves) as a 'calling' where everyone of them was supposedly
'called' (or elected?) by their pretend lord to serve and represent
him



Les Hellawell
Grreting from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County

Martin Luther wrote:
"Faith must trample underfoot all sense, reason and understanding

Which means that if Luther practised what he preached
nothing he ever said made any sense

[Christopher A. Lee]

Post by Les Hellawell
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 20:40:27 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon

Post by •RLMeasures

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent
of all Americans describing themselves as "former
Catholics."

€€ I can think of no scandel that would cause more marginialization
than priests butt fucking boys with higher ups trying to cover it up.

Why do you suppose Satan would work so diligently, leading people to
do things like this? The only answer I can come up with is that Satan
is still very actively trying to turn people away from God. Gordon

There is something seriously wrong with anybody who asks a question
like that, not just to atheists but any other non-Christian - and if
you don't treat them as the mindlessly stupid idiots they are for
doing it, they will never realise this because they live in their own
little fantasy world.

Post by Les Hellawell

Post by Mitchell Holman
If your god is powerless to protect little
alter boys and girls why to bother worshipping
him?

and don't forget the 'priesthood' is described (by the catholics
themselves) as a 'calling' where everyone of them was supposedly
'called' (or elected?) by their pretend lord to serve and represent
him

The idiots who can't think outside their cosy fantasies, can't get
their minds around others not sharing their rose-tinted view.

Post by Les Hellawell
Les Hellawell
Grreting from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
"Faith must trample underfoot all sense, reason and understanding

We see this all the time from in-your-face, wilfully ignorant idiots
who should know better than that.

Post by Les Hellawell
Which means that if Luther practised what he preached
nothing he ever said made any sense

[hypatiab7]

Post by Christopher A. Lee

Post by Les Hellawell
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 20:40:27 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent - or one-fifth - of
the total population.
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent
of all Americans describing themselves as "former
Catholics."

EURO EURO I can think of no scandel that would cause more marginialization
than priests butt fucking boys with higher ups trying to cover it up.

Why do you suppose Satan would work so diligently, leading people to
do things like this? The only answer I can come up with is that Satan
is still very actively trying to turn people away from God. Gordon

There is something seriously wrong with anybody who asks a question
like that, not just to atheists but any other non-Christian - and if
you don't treat them as the mindlessly stupid idiots they are for
doing it, they will never realise this because they live in their own
little fantasy world.

Post by Les Hellawell

Post by Mitchell Holman
If your god is powerless to protect little
alter boys and girls why to bother worshipping
him?

and don't forget the 'priesthood' is described (by the catholics
themselves) as a 'calling' where everyone of them was supposedly
'called' (or elected?) by their pretend lord to serve and represent
him

The idiots who can't think outside their cosy fantasies, can't get
their minds around others not sharing their rose-tinted view.

And don't forget the ones with the red-orange hell flame threats. They are
so afraid of their own beliefs that they want to drag others down with them.

Post by Christopher A. Lee

Post by Les Hellawell
"Faith must trample underfoot all sense, reason and understanding

We see this all the time from in-your-face, wilfully ignorant idiots
who should know better than that.

Post by Les Hellawell
Which means that if Luther practised what he preached
nothing he ever said made any sense

[•RLMeasures]

Post by Les Hellawell
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 20:40:27 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon

Post by •RLMeasures

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent
of all Americans describing themselves as "former
Catholics."

€€ I can think of no scandel that would cause more marginialization
than priests butt fucking boys with higher ups trying to cover it up.

Why do you suppose Satan would work so diligently, leading people to
do things like this? The only answer I can come up with is that Satan
is still very actively trying to turn people away from God. Gordon

If your god is powerless to protect little
alter boys and girls why to bother worshipping
him?

and don't forget the 'priesthood' is described (by the catholics
themselves) as a 'calling' where everyone of them was supposedly
'called' (or elected?) by their pretend lord to serve and represent
him.

€€€ For some gay men the call of boy-butt must be irresistable.

Post by Les Hellawell
Les Hellawell
Grreting from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
"Faith must trample underfoot all sense, reason and understanding
Which means that if Luther practised what he preached
nothing he ever said made any sense

[duke]

Post by Les Hellawell
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 20:40:27 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon

Post by •RLMeasures

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent
of all Americans describing themselves as "former
Catholics."

€€ I can think of no scandel that would cause more marginialization
than priests butt fucking boys with higher ups trying to cover it up.

Why do you suppose Satan would work so diligently, leading people to
do things like this? The only answer I can come up with is that Satan
is still very actively trying to turn people away from God. Gordon

If your god is powerless to protect little
alter boys and girls why to bother worshipping
him?

and don't forget the 'priesthood' is described (by the catholics
themselves) as a 'calling' where everyone of them was supposedly
'called' (or elected?) by their pretend lord to serve and represent
him

Yet those that previously dedicated themselves to God and his love fell from
grace and let satan talk them into evil.

Post by Les Hellawell
Les Hellawell
Grreting from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

[Les Hellawell]

Post by Les Hellawell
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 20:40:27 -0600, Mitchell Holman

<snip>

Post by Les Hellawell

Post by Mitchell Holman
If your god is powerless to protect little
alter boys and girls why to bother worshipping
him?

and don't forget the 'priesthood' is described (by the catholics
themselves) as a 'calling' where everyone of them was supposedly
'called' (or elected?) by their pretend lord to serve and represent
him

Yet... <snip>

I told Duke that he should make his next post addressed to me an
apology for the lies he has told about me. There can be no
correspondce between us until he does. It seems he needs yet another
reminder why this apology is necessary.



Lies 1:

On Sat, 11 Jan 2014 11:07:36 -0600, duke <***@cox.net> wrote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------

"Your answer: you can't. But I've understood that about you from the
get go. You could at least try to tell me why you say there is NO
God."

Something I have never said indeed I have made it more than
clear that I have no beliefs concerning gods

I have given him since Janary 2014 to find a cite proving
me wrong and he has failed to find one simply because there
isn't one to find

So he stands a liar here


Lie 2

On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 16:38:18 -0500, duke <***@cox.net> wrote:
---------------------------------------------------------------------

<snip>

"So, why do you object to the presence and worship of God in the lives
of the
people around you?"

Since I never made any objection as alleged I asked him to
cite where he alleges I made this objection.

There has been no cites just futher evasions, therefore
he stands as liar

Lie 3:

On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 15:53:14 -0600, duke <***@cox.net> wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------------------

"I have nothing to apologize to you about."

Lie 4:

On Wed, 07 Jan 2015 13:33:56 +0000, Les Hellawell <***@shant.tell>
wrote:
---------------------------------------------------------

This time they killed 12 injuring 7 in an attack on
a French satirical magazine

"Gosh durn those muslims which you support."

Lie 5:

On Sun, 22 Mar 2015 10:20:38 -0500, duke <***@cox.net> wrote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------

"I never lie on the ng and I have no reason to start now."

Lie 6

On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 10:54:57 -0500, duke <***@cox.net> wrote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------

The only liars here are the atheist wannabe's.

Lie: 7

On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 16:35:32 -0500, duke <***@cox.net> wrote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------

"Heeheehee. I've already apologized for any lies I told about you.
Guess where
you stand now."

As usual Duke has made an assertion without any supporting evidence.
He must
now either support this claim by citing these alleged apologies or
admit this
is yet another lie told by him.

[duke]

Post by Les Hellawell

Post by Les Hellawell
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 20:40:27 -0600, Mitchell Holman

<snip>

Post by Les Hellawell

Post by Mitchell Holman
If your god is powerless to protect little
alter boys and girls why to bother worshipping
him?

and don't forget the 'priesthood' is described (by the catholics
themselves) as a 'calling' where everyone of them was supposedly
'called' (or elected?) by their pretend lord to serve and represent
him

Yet... <snip>

I told Duke that he should make his next post addressed to me an
apology for the lies he has told about me.

You're a dork.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

[hypatiab7]

Post by duke

Post by Les Hellawell
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 20:40:27 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent - or one-fifth - of
the total population.
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent
of all Americans describing themselves as "former
Catholics."

EURO EURO I can think of no scandel that would cause more marginialization
than priests butt fucking boys with higher ups trying to cover it up.

Why do you suppose Satan would work so diligently, leading people to
do things like this? The only answer I can come up with is that Satan
is still very actively trying to turn people away from God. Gordon

If your god is powerless to protect little
alter boys and girls why to bother worshipping
him?

and don't forget the 'priesthood' is described (by the catholics
themselves) as a 'calling' where everyone of them was supposedly
'called' (or elected?) by their pretend lord to serve and represent
him

Yet those that previously dedicated themselves to God and his love fell from
grace and let satan talk them into evil.

Your non-existent devil didn't talk anyone into anything. The guys decided
on their own. The blame is on them, not your devil and definitely not the boys or girls.

Post by duke
the dukester, American Primitive

[Josh Miles]

Post by Gordon

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent
of all Americans describing themselves as "former
Catholics."

€€ I can think of no scandel that would cause more marginialization than
priests butt fucking boys with higher ups trying to cover it up.

Why do you suppose Satan would work so diligently, leading people to
do things like this? The only answer I can come up with is that Satan
is still very actively trying to turn people away from God. Gordon

So in your mind, the child abusing priests are not personally
responsible for their actions. Satan made them do it!

You are disgusting.

[duke]

Post by Josh Miles

Post by Gordon

Post by •RLMeasures

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent
of all Americans describing themselves as "former
Catholics."

€€ I can think of no scandel that would cause more marginialization than
priests butt fucking boys with higher ups trying to cover it up.

Why do you suppose Satan would work so diligently, leading people to
do things like this? The only answer I can come up with is that Satan
is still very actively trying to turn people away from God. Gordon

So in your mind, the child abusing priests are not personally
responsible for their actions. Satan made them do it!

That IS being personally responsible.

Post by Josh Miles
You are disgusting.

So are you for not understanding.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

[Josh Miles]

Post by duke

Post by Josh Miles

Post by Gordon

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent
of all Americans describing themselves as "former
Catholics."

€€ I can think of no scandel that would cause more marginialization than
priests butt fucking boys with higher ups trying to cover it up.

Why do you suppose Satan would work so diligently, leading people to
do things like this? The only answer I can come up with is that Satan
is still very actively trying to turn people away from God. Gordon

So in your mind, the child abusing priests are not personally
responsible for their actions. Satan made them do it!

That IS being personally responsible.

It's the opposite of personal responsibility.

[•RLMeasures]

Post by Josh Miles

Post by duke

Post by Josh Miles

Post by Gordon

Post by •RLMeasures

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent
of all Americans describing themselves as "former
Catholics."

€€ I can think of no scandel that would cause more marginialization than
priests butt fucking boys with higher ups trying to cover it up.

Why do you suppose Satan would work so diligently, leading people to
do things like this? The only answer I can come up with is that Satan
is still very actively trying to turn people away from God. Gordon

So in your mind, the child abusing priests are not personally
responsible for their actions. Satan made them do it!

That IS being personally responsible.

It's the opposite of personal responsibility.

€€€ Correct. This was what the Nuremberg trials were all about.

[duke]

Post by MattB
Holman

Post by Josh Miles

Post by duke

Post by Josh Miles

Post by Gordon

Post by •RLMeasures

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent
of all Americans describing themselves as "former
Catholics."

€€ I can think of no scandel that would cause more marginialization than
priests butt fucking boys with higher ups trying to cover it up.

Why do you suppose Satan would work so diligently, leading people to
do things like this? The only answer I can come up with is that Satan
is still very actively trying to turn people away from God. Gordon

So in your mind, the child abusing priests are not personally
responsible for their actions. Satan made them do it!

That IS being personally responsible.

It's the opposite of personal responsibility.

€€€ Correct. This was what the Nuremberg trials were all about.

Wrong. Those on trial took the punishment.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

[•RLMeasures]

Post by duke

Post by MattB
Holman

Post by Josh Miles

Post by duke

Post by Josh Miles

Post by Gordon

Post by •RLMeasures

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent
of all Americans describing themselves as "former
Catholics."

€€ I can think of no scandel that would cause more

marginialization than

Post by duke

Post by MattB

Post by Josh Miles

Post by duke

Post by Josh Miles

Post by Gordon

Post by •RLMeasures
priests butt fucking boys with higher ups trying to cover it up.

Why do you suppose Satan would work so diligently, leading people to
do things like this? The only answer I can come up with is that Satan
is still very actively trying to turn people away from God. Gordon

So in your mind, the child abusing priests are not personally
responsible for their actions. Satan made them do it!

That IS being personally responsible.

It's the opposite of personal responsibility.

€€€ Correct. This was what the Nuremberg trials were all about.

Wrong. Those on trial took the punishment.

€€€€ Is there a niswire in Earl's logic unit?

[duke]

Post by Josh Miles

Post by duke

Post by Josh Miles

Post by Gordon

Post by •RLMeasures

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent
of all Americans describing themselves as "former
Catholics."

€€ I can think of no scandel that would cause more marginialization than
priests butt fucking boys with higher ups trying to cover it up.

Why do you suppose Satan would work so diligently, leading people to
do things like this? The only answer I can come up with is that Satan
is still very actively trying to turn people away from God. Gordon

So in your mind, the child abusing priests are not personally
responsible for their actions. Satan made them do it!

That IS being personally responsible.

It's the opposite of personal responsibility.

No, it's not. Abusive priests are personally responsible for their actions.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

[hypatiab7]

Post by Josh Miles

Post by Gordon

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent - or one-fifth - of
the total population.
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent
of all Americans describing themselves as "former
Catholics."

EURO EURO I can think of no scandel that would cause more marginialization than
priests butt fucking boys with higher ups trying to cover it up.

Why do you suppose Satan would work so diligently, leading people to
do things like this? The only answer I can come up with is that Satan
is still very actively trying to turn people away from God. Gordon

So in your mind, the child abusing priests are not personally
responsible for their actions. Satan made them do it!
You are disgusting.

That's Earl all over. The idea of personal responsibility is something he's run away from his entire life.

[duke]

Post by Gordon

Post by •RLMeasures

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent
of all Americans describing themselves as "former
Catholics."

€€ I can think of no scandel that would cause more marginialization than
priests butt fucking boys with higher ups trying to cover it up.

Why do you suppose Satan would work so diligently, leading people to
do things like this? The only answer I can come up with is that Satan
is still very actively trying to turn people away from God. Gordon

Of course satan is still active. That's why sin is a choice of the sinner.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

[b***@m.nu]

Post by Gordon

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent
of all Americans describing themselves as "former
Catholics."

€€ I can think of no scandel that would cause more marginialization than
priests butt fucking boys with higher ups trying to cover it up.

Why do you suppose Satan would work so diligently, leading people to
do things like this? The only answer I can come up with is that Satan
is still very actively trying to turn people away from God. Gordon

because your pal satan is in your head and it only does what you
command.

[Christopher A. Lee]

Post by Gordon

Post by •RLMeasures

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent
of all Americans describing themselves as "former
Catholics."

€€ I can think of no scandel that would cause more marginialization than
priests butt fucking boys with higher ups trying to cover it up.

Why do you suppose Satan would work so diligently, leading people to
do things like this? The only answer I can come up with is that Satan
is still very actively trying to turn people away from God. Gordon

What kind of fucking moron asks such a stupid question of people he
knows aren't even Christian, or even non-fundamentalist Christian?

[•RLMeasures]

Post by Christopher A. Lee

Post by Gordon

Post by •RLMeasures

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent
of all Americans describing themselves as "former
Catholics."

€€ I can think of no scandel that would cause more marginialization than
priests butt fucking boys with higher ups trying to cover it up.

Why do you suppose Satan would work so diligently, leading people to
do things like this? The only answer I can come up with is that Satan
is still very actively trying to turn people away from God. Gordon

What kind of fucking moron asks such a stupid question of people he
knows aren't even Christian, or even non-fundamentalist Christian?

€€€ What kind of moron? The kind that thinks they are "saved".

[hypatiab7]

Post by Gordon

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent - or one-fifth - of
the total population.
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent
of all Americans describing themselves as "former
Catholics."

EURO EURO I can think of no scandel that would cause more marginialization than
priests butt fucking boys with higher ups trying to cover it up.

Why do you suppose Satan would work so diligently, leading people to
do things like this? The only answer I can come up with is that Satan
is still very actively trying to turn people away from God. Gordon

Many of the people in Mexico, Central and South America are becoming Protestants. So, they haven't given up being religious God-believing Christians; they've just left the Roman Catholic Church and all its
hypocrisy and cover-ups.

Post by Gordon

Post by Mitchell Holman
The big winner in terms of growing numbers is the
unaffiliated, or the so-called "nones," shooting
up to about 23 percent of the total population from
just 16 percent seven years ago. The 56 million adults
not belonging to any faith tradition outnumber both
Catholics and mainline Protestants.
http://tinyurl.com/qhbtme2
More Than 1,000 Mexicans Leave Catholic Church Daily
Nov 16 2015
MEXICO CITY - More than 1,000 Mexicans left the Catholic
Church every day over the last decade, adding up to some
4 million fallen-away Catholics between 2000 and 2010,
sociologist and historian Roberto Blancarte told Efe.
Blancarte, one of the nation's outstanding specialists
on religious subjects, said that one of the main conclusions
to be drawn from the 2010 census is that Mexico is no longer
a predominantly Catholic country and has become a nation of
religious pluralism.
http://www.laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=390745&CategoryId=14091

[MattB]

On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 18:12:59 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent
of all Americans describing themselves as "former
Catholics."
The big winner in terms of growing numbers is the
unaffiliated, or the so-called "nones," shooting
up to about 23 percent of the total population from
just 16 percent seven years ago. The 56 million adults
not belonging to any faith tradition outnumber both
Catholics and mainline Protestants.
http://tinyurl.com/qhbtme2
More Than 1,000 Mexicans Leave Catholic Church Daily
Nov 16 2015
MEXICO CITY – More than 1,000 Mexicans left the Catholic
Church every day over the last decade, adding up to some
4 million fallen-away Catholics between 2000 and 2010,
sociologist and historian Roberto Blancarte told Efe.
Blancarte, one of the nation’s outstanding specialists
on religious subjects, said that one of the main conclusions
to be drawn from the 2010 census is that Mexico is no longer
a predominantly Catholic country and has become a nation of
religious pluralism.
http://www.laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=390745&CategoryId=14091

Finally some positive news on here.

[duke]

Post by MattB
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 18:12:59 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.

Finally some positive news on here.

Heeheehee. Yes, some great news. The self declared Catholic population in the
US rose 8 million in the period from 2000 to 2014. In the official Church
records, it's about 7 million growth.

You mentally immature should learn how to read numbers before you speak. In
fact, you should be seen but not heard.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

[MattB]

Post by duke

Post by MattB
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 18:12:59 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.

Finally some positive news on here.

Heeheehee. Yes, some great news. The self declared Catholic population in the
US rose 8 million in the period from 2000 to 2014. In the official Church
records, it's about 7 million growth.
You mentally immature should learn how to read numbers before you speak. In
fact, you should be seen but not heard.

Do you have a cite for that?

Post by duke
the dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

[duke]

Post by MattB

Post by duke

Post by MattB
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 18:12:59 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.

Finally some positive news on here.

Heeheehee. Yes, some great news. The self declared Catholic population in the
US rose 8 million in the period from 2000 to 2014. In the official Church
records, it's about 7 million growth.
You mentally immature should learn how to read numbers before you speak. In
fact, you should be seen but not heard.

Do you have a cite for that?

Yes, I do, but you don't deserve to get it from me. You throw crap out at will.
So go find your own crap.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

[MattB]

Post by duke

Post by MattB

Post by duke

Post by MattB
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 18:12:59 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.

Finally some positive news on here.

Heeheehee. Yes, some great news. The self declared Catholic population in the
US rose 8 million in the period from 2000 to 2014. In the official Church
records, it's about 7 million growth.
You mentally immature should learn how to read numbers before you speak. In
fact, you should be seen but not heard.

Do you have a cite for that?

Yes, I do, but you don't deserve to get it from me. You throw crap out at will.
So go find your own crap.

Looks like we have another lie.

Racist and a liar Duke you are sick.

Post by duke
the dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

[nature bats last]

Post by duke

Post by MattB
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 18:12:59 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent - or one-fifth - of
the total population.

Finally some positive news on here.

.> Heeheehee. Yes, some great news. The self declared Catholic population in the
.> US rose 8 million in the period from 2000 to 2014. In the official Church
.> records, it's about 7 million growth.

Mitchell gave links to support his claims.

I'm not seeing a link from you to support yours.

But even assuming you got the Church's data right,
answer this: the Pew report says that 13 percent
of all Americans describe themselves as "former Catholics".

That's 2 in every 15 Americans: former Catholics.

Are you claiming that your "official Church records"
knew of everyone who just said, "Aw, screw this" and walked --
and so have dutifully stricken all their names from their data?

If you believe that, let's see your evidence to support that belief.

Seth

Post by duke
You mentally immature should learn how to read numbers before you speak. In
fact, you should be seen but not heard.
the dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

[duke]

Post by nature bats last

Post by MattB
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 18:12:59 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent - or one-fifth - of
the total population.

Finally some positive news on here.

.> Heeheehee. Yes, some great news. The self declared Catholic population in the
.> US rose 8 million in the period from 2000 to 2014. In the official Church
.> records, it's about 7 million growth.
Mitchell gave links to support his claims.
I'm not seeing a link from you to support yours.

Why should I give it to you. You and your fruitloop buddies don't.

But what the heck. http://cara.georgetown.edu

Post by nature bats last
But even assuming you got the Church's data right,
answer this: the Pew report says that 13 percent
of all Americans describe themselves as "former Catholics".
That's 2 in every 15 Americans: former Catholics.
Are you claiming that your "official Church records"
knew of everyone who just said, "Aw, screw this" and walked --
and so have dutifully stricken all their names from their data?

I can't certify my data any more or less than you can certify the Pew data.

Post by nature bats last
If you believe that, let's see your evidence to support that belief.
Seth

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

[Mitchell Holman]

On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 12:24:50 -0800 (PST), nature bats last

Post by nature bats last

Post by MattB
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 18:12:59 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent - or one-fifth - of
the total population.

Finally some positive news on here.

.> Heeheehee. Yes, some great news. The self declared Catholic
population in the .> US rose 8 million in the period from 2000 to
2014. In the official Church .> records, it's about 7 million
growth.
Mitchell gave links to support his claims.
I'm not seeing a link from you to support yours.

Why should I give it to you. You and your fruitloop buddies don't.
But what the heck. http://cara.georgetown.edu

CARA is biased, the Pew Forum survey is not.

[Jeanne Douglas]

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent
of all Americans describing themselves as "former
Catholics."
The big winner in terms of growing numbers is the
unaffiliated, or the so-called "nones," shooting
up to about 23 percent of the total population from
just 16 percent seven years ago. The 56 million adults
not belonging to any faith tradition outnumber both
Catholics and mainline Protestants.
http://tinyurl.com/qhbtme2
More Than 1,000 Mexicans Leave Catholic Church Daily
Nov 16 2015
MEXICO CITY – More than 1,000 Mexicans left the Catholic
Church every day over the last decade, adding up to some
4 million fallen-away Catholics between 2000 and 2010,
sociologist and historian Roberto Blancarte told Efe.
Blancarte, one of the nation’s outstanding specialists
on religious subjects, said that one of the main conclusions
to be drawn from the 2010 census is that Mexico is no longer
a predominantly Catholic country and has become a nation of
religious pluralism.
http://www.laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=390745&CategoryId=14091

And Catholics all over Latin America are being converted to evangelical
Protestantism.


\

[Kenny McCormack]

In article <hlwdjsd2-***@news.giganews.com>,
Jeanne Douglas <***@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
...

Post by Jeanne Douglas
And Catholics all over Latin America are being converted to evangelical
Protestantism.

Frying pan meet fire.

[Jefferson Was A Slave Molester]

Post by Jeanne Douglas

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent - or one-fifth - of
the total population.
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent
of all Americans describing themselves as "former
Catholics."
The big winner in terms of growing numbers is the
unaffiliated, or the so-called "nones," shooting
up to about 23 percent of the total population from
just 16 percent seven years ago. The 56 million adults
not belonging to any faith tradition outnumber both
Catholics and mainline Protestants.
http://tinyurl.com/qhbtme2
More Than 1,000 Mexicans Leave Catholic Church Daily
Nov 16 2015
MEXICO CITY - More than 1,000 Mexicans left the Catholic
Church every day over the last decade, adding up to some
4 million fallen-away Catholics between 2000 and 2010,
sociologist and historian Roberto Blancarte told Efe.
Blancarte, one of the nation's outstanding specialists
on religious subjects, said that one of the main conclusions
to be drawn from the 2010 census is that Mexico is no longer
a predominantly Catholic country and has become a nation of
religious pluralism.
http://www.laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=390745&CategoryId=14091

And Catholics all over Latin America are being converted to evangelical
Protestantism.

How do you know, liar? Why are you always so quick to bear false witness?

Post by Jeanne Douglas
\
--
JD
I¹ve officially given up trying to find the bottom
of the barrel that is Republican depravity.--Jidyom
Rosario, Addicting Info

[MattB]

On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 17:37:18 -0800, Jeanne Douglas

Post by Jeanne Douglas

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent
of all Americans describing themselves as "former
Catholics."
The big winner in terms of growing numbers is the
unaffiliated, or the so-called "nones," shooting
up to about 23 percent of the total population from
just 16 percent seven years ago. The 56 million adults
not belonging to any faith tradition outnumber both
Catholics and mainline Protestants.
http://tinyurl.com/qhbtme2
More Than 1,000 Mexicans Leave Catholic Church Daily
Nov 16 2015
MEXICO CITY – More than 1,000 Mexicans left the Catholic
Church every day over the last decade, adding up to some
4 million fallen-away Catholics between 2000 and 2010,
sociologist and historian Roberto Blancarte told Efe.
Blancarte, one of the nation’s outstanding specialists
on religious subjects, said that one of the main conclusions
to be drawn from the 2010 census is that Mexico is no longer
a predominantly Catholic country and has become a nation of
religious pluralism.
http://www.laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=390745&CategoryId=14091

And Catholics all over Latin America are being converted to evangelical
Protestantism.

I could see the Fred Phelps and Jim Jones types doing quite well
there.

Post by Jeanne Douglas
\

[duke]

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.

Yet the CARA data from the Bishops themselves clearly revealed that the RCC is
the LARGEST Church in the US and getting bigger all the time.

In fact in the time from 2000 to 2014, the RCC has grown 8 million "self
declared" Catholics.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

[Mitchell Holman]

Post by MattB
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 18:12:59 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.

Yet the CARA data from the Bishops themselves clearly revealed that
the RCC is the LARGEST Church in the US and getting bigger all the
time.

Even the Pope says you are wrong.


As Pope visit nears, U.S. Catholic Church faces financial strain
Oct 20, 2015

When Pope Francis makes his first visit to the United States
this month he will face a national Catholic Church whose
finances are staggering under ----> a shrinking membership <-----
and huge payouts to sex-abuse victims, threatening to undermine
its social influence.

With the Church still absorbing the roughly $3 billion cost
of a clergy sex abuse scandal, another financial crisis is
looming -- a potentially crippling shortfall in funding the
pensions of its ageing priests.


http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/20/us-pope-usa-finances-insight-
idUSKCN0R80B020151020#yG3tiPuEco8zdgYd.99

[Jeanne Douglas]

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by MattB
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 18:12:59 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.

Yet the CARA data from the Bishops themselves clearly revealed that
the RCC is the LARGEST Church in the US and getting bigger all the
time.

Even the Pope says you are wrong.
As Pope visit nears, U.S. Catholic Church faces financial strain
Oct 20, 2015
When Pope Francis makes his first visit to the United States
this month he will face a national Catholic Church whose
finances are staggering under ----> a shrinking membership <-----
and huge payouts to sex-abuse victims, threatening to undermine
its social influence.
With the Church still absorbing the roughly $3 billion cost
of a clergy sex abuse scandal, another financial crisis is
looming -- a potentially crippling shortfall in funding the
pensions of its ageing priests.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/20/us-pope-usa-finances-insight-
idUSKCN0R80B020151020#yG3tiPuEco8zdgYd.99

Looks like they're going to have to sell some of the stolen treasures.

[hypatiab7]

Post by Jeanne Douglas

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by MattB
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 18:12:59 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent - or one-fifth - of
the total population.

Yet the CARA data from the Bishops themselves clearly revealed that
the RCC is the LARGEST Church in the US and getting bigger all the
time.

Even the Pope says you are wrong.
As Pope visit nears, U.S. Catholic Church faces financial strain
Oct 20, 2015
When Pope Francis makes his first visit to the United States
this month he will face a national Catholic Church whose
finances are staggering under ----> a shrinking membership <-----
and huge payouts to sex-abuse victims, threatening to undermine
its social influence.
With the Church still absorbing the roughly $3 billion cost
of a clergy sex abuse scandal, another financial crisis is
looming -- a potentially crippling shortfall in funding the
pensions of its ageing priests.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/20/us-pope-usa-finances-insight-
idUSKCN0R80B020151020#yG3tiPuEco8zdgYd.99

Looks like they're going to have to sell some of the stolen treasures.

Then, they'd have to admit having them. Unless they sell them to the underworld. Then, they'd have to admit where all the mystery money is
coming from. Then ....

[duke]

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by MattB
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 18:12:59 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.

Yet the CARA data from the Bishops themselves clearly revealed that
the RCC is the LARGEST Church in the US and getting bigger all the
time.

Even the Pope says you are wrong.

CARA is the Churches numbers.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

[Mitchell Holman]

On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 07:25:07 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by MattB
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 18:12:59 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.

Yet the CARA data from the Bishops themselves clearly revealed that
the RCC is the LARGEST Church in the US and getting bigger all the
time.

Even the Pope says you are wrong.

CARA is the Churches numbers.

Does CARA know more about the Church than the Pope?

[duke]

Post by Mitchell Holman

On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 07:25:07 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by MattB
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 18:12:59 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.

Yet the CARA data from the Bishops themselves clearly revealed that
the RCC is the LARGEST Church in the US and getting bigger all the
time.

Even the Pope says you are wrong.

CARA is the Churches numbers.

Does CARA know more about the Church than the Pope?

I'd say these have the same numbers.

CARA says the self-declared (survey based) Catholic population is up 5.7 million
since 2005 and the actual Church records up 1.8 million in the same time frame.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

[Mitchell Holman]

On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 15:37:23 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 07:25:07 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by MattB
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 18:12:59 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.

Yet the CARA data from the Bishops themselves clearly revealed
that the RCC is the LARGEST Church in the US and getting bigger
all the time.

Even the Pope says you are wrong.

CARA is the Churches numbers.

Does CARA know more about the Church than the Pope?

I'd say these have the same numbers.
CARA says the self-declared (survey based) Catholic population is up
5.7 million since 2005 and the actual Church records up 1.8 million in
the same time frame.

The unbiased - and more recent - Pew survey
says the biased CARA is wrong.

[PATRICK]

On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 15:04:56 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 15:37:23 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 07:25:07 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by MattB
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 18:12:59 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.

Yet the CARA data from the Bishops themselves clearly revealed
that the RCC is the LARGEST Church in the US and getting bigger
all the time.

Even the Pope says you are wrong.

CARA is the Churches numbers.

Does CARA know more about the Church than the Pope?

I'd say these have the same numbers.
CARA says the self-declared (survey based) Catholic population is up
5.7 million since 2005 and the actual Church records up 1.8 million in
the same time frame.

The unbiased - and more recent - Pew survey
says the biased CARA is wrong.

When?
Where?

[duke]

Post by PATRICK
On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 15:04:56 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 15:37:23 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 07:25:07 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by MattB
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 18:12:59 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.

Yet the CARA data from the Bishops themselves clearly revealed
that the RCC is the LARGEST Church in the US and getting bigger
all the time.

Even the Pope says you are wrong.

CARA is the Churches numbers.

Does CARA know more about the Church than the Pope?

I'd say these have the same numbers.
CARA says the self-declared (survey based) Catholic population is up
5.7 million since 2005 and the actual Church records up 1.8 million in
the same time frame.

The unbiased - and more recent - Pew survey
says the biased CARA is wrong.

When?
Where?

Holman will say anything in desperation.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

[Mitchell Holman]

Post by duke

Post by PATRICK
On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 15:04:56 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 15:37:23 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 07:25:07 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by MattB
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 18:12:59 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.

Yet the CARA data from the Bishops themselves clearly revealed
that the RCC is the LARGEST Church in the US and getting bigger
all the time.

Even the Pope says you are wrong.

CARA is the Churches numbers.

Does CARA know more about the Church than the Pope?

I'd say these have the same numbers.
CARA says the self-declared (survey based) Catholic population is
up 5.7 million since 2005 and the actual Church records up 1.8
million in the same time frame.

The unbiased - and more recent - Pew survey
says the biased CARA is wrong.

When?
Where?

Holman will say anything in desperation.

The only desparation here is you two trying
to defend your dying religion. And the pedophiles
it harbors.

[•RLMeasures]

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by duke

Post by PATRICK
On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 15:04:56 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 15:37:23 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 07:25:07 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by MattB
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 18:12:59 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.

Yet the CARA data from the Bishops themselves clearly revealed
that the RCC is the LARGEST Church in the US and getting bigger
all the time.

Even the Pope says you are wrong.

CARA is the Churches numbers.

Does CARA know more about the Church than the Pope?

I'd say these have the same numbers.
CARA says the self-declared (survey based) Catholic population is
up 5.7 million since 2005 and the actual Church records up 1.8
million in the same time frame.

The unbiased - and more recent - Pew survey
says the biased CARA is wrong.

When?
Where?

Holman will say anything in desperation.

The only desparation here is you two trying
to defend your dying religion. And the pedophiles
it harbors.

€€ Amen Mitch. "God's Holy Church" for damn sure turned out to be its
own source of ruin this time.

[PATRICK]

Post by •RLMeasures

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by duke

Post by PATRICK
On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 15:04:56 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 15:37:23 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 07:25:07 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by MattB
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 18:12:59 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.

Yet the CARA data from the Bishops themselves clearly revealed
that the RCC is the LARGEST Church in the US and getting bigger
all the time.

Even the Pope says you are wrong.

CARA is the Churches numbers.

Does CARA know more about the Church than the Pope?

I'd say these have the same numbers.
CARA says the self-declared (survey based) Catholic population is
up 5.7 million since 2005 and the actual Church records up 1.8
million in the same time frame.

The unbiased - and more recent - Pew survey
says the biased CARA is wrong.

When?
Where?

Holman will say anything in desperation.

The only desparation here is you two trying
to defend your dying religion. And the pedophiles
it harbors.

€€ Amen Mitch. "God's Holy Church" for damn sure turned out to be its
own source of ruin this time.

Sure is taking its sweet time in getting rooned.

[•RLMeasures]

Post by PATRICK

Post by •RLMeasures

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by duke

Post by PATRICK
On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 15:04:56 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 15:37:23 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 07:25:07 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by MattB
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 18:12:59 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.

Yet the CARA data from the Bishops themselves clearly revealed
that the RCC is the LARGEST Church in the US and getting bigger
all the time.

Even the Pope says you are wrong.

CARA is the Churches numbers.

Does CARA know more about the Church than the Pope?

I'd say these have the same numbers.
CARA says the self-declared (survey based) Catholic population is
up 5.7 million since 2005 and the actual Church records up 1.8
million in the same time frame.

The unbiased - and more recent - Pew survey
says the biased CARA is wrong.

When?
Where?

Holman will say anything in desperation.

The only desparation here is you two trying
to defend your dying religion. And the pedophiles
it harbors.

€€ Amen Mitch. "God's Holy Church" for damn sure turned out to be its
own source of ruin this time.

Sure is taking its sweet time in getting rooned.

€€€ It took c. 5 centuries to get started so it may take a while to clean
out the homo-pedo-preists ("fags".

[MattB]

Post by •RLMeasures

Post by PATRICK

Post by •RLMeasures

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by duke

Post by PATRICK
On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 15:04:56 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 15:37:23 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 07:25:07 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by MattB
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 18:12:59 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.

Yet the CARA data from the Bishops themselves clearly revealed
that the RCC is the LARGEST Church in the US and getting bigger
all the time.

Even the Pope says you are wrong.

CARA is the Churches numbers.

Does CARA know more about the Church than the Pope?

I'd say these have the same numbers.
CARA says the self-declared (survey based) Catholic population is
up 5.7 million since 2005 and the actual Church records up 1.8
million in the same time frame.

The unbiased - and more recent - Pew survey
says the biased CARA is wrong.

When?
Where?

Holman will say anything in desperation.

The only desparation here is you two trying
to defend your dying religion. And the pedophiles
it harbors.

€€ Amen Mitch. "God's Holy Church" for damn sure turned out to be its
own source of ruin this time.

Sure is taking its sweet time in getting rooned.

€€€ It took c. 5 centuries to get started so it may take a while to clean
out the homo-pedo-preists ("fags".

I'm betting in the USA and EU maybe 50 years. With Patrick and Earl
being "Good Catholics" that shows much.

[PATRICK]

On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 07:03:06 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by duke

Post by PATRICK
On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 15:04:56 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 15:37:23 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 07:25:07 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by MattB
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 18:12:59 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.

Yet the CARA data from the Bishops themselves clearly revealed
that the RCC is the LARGEST Church in the US and getting bigger
all the time.

Even the Pope says you are wrong.

CARA is the Churches numbers.

Does CARA know more about the Church than the Pope?

I'd say these have the same numbers.
CARA says the self-declared (survey based) Catholic population is
up 5.7 million since 2005 and the actual Church records up 1.8
million in the same time frame.

The unbiased - and more recent - Pew survey
says the biased CARA is wrong.

When?
Where?

Holman will say anything in desperation.

The only desparation here is you two trying
to defend your dying religion. And the pedophiles
it harbors.

If you are going to post a whopper, the least you can do is to provide
a reference for it.
Or, .... do you like to plagiarize?

[duke]

Post by Mitchell Holman

On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 15:37:23 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 07:25:07 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by MattB
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 18:12:59 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent – or one-fifth – of
the total population.

Yet the CARA data from the Bishops themselves clearly revealed
that the RCC is the LARGEST Church in the US and getting bigger
all the time.

Even the Pope says you are wrong.

CARA is the Churches numbers.

Does CARA know more about the Church than the Pope?

I'd say these have the same numbers.
CARA says the self-declared (survey based) Catholic population is up
5.7 million since 2005 and the actual Church records up 1.8 million in
the same time frame.

The unbiased - and more recent - Pew survey
says the biased CARA is wrong.

Haahaahaa.

The RCC is really growing.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

[hypatiab7]

Post by duke

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by MattB
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 18:12:59 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent - or one-fifth - of
the total population.

Yet the CARA data from the Bishops themselves clearly revealed that
the RCC is the LARGEST Church in the US and getting bigger all the
time.

Even the Pope says you are wrong.

CARA is the Churches numbers.

The duped sheeple?

Post by duke
the dukester, American Duped Sheeple

[hypatiab7]

Post by duke

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent - or one-fifth - of
the total population.

Yet the CARA data from the Bishops themselves clearly revealed that the RCC is
the LARGEST Church in the US and getting bigger all the time.
In fact in the time from 2000 to 2014, the RCC has grown 8 million "self
declared" Catholics.

Are you honestly that gullible?

Post by duke
the dukester, Brainwashed American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

[WeHang FagZ]

On Monday, November 16, 2015 at 7:13:03 PM UTC-5, Mitchell Holman wrote:


What the popes were trying to control were just the liturgical services, and ceremonies. Desiderius Erasmus in the 15th century pointed out the danger of such monopoly and offered some corrective but the Roman Curia failed to listen.
Decentralization of the liturgy is the only way to savce Catholicism.
Thus the creed will change from:
We believe in ONE Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church
to
We believe in One Holy Universal and Apostolic Liturgy or ceremony or ritual.

Each nation having control on its own SHRINES OR ALTARS.

VIVE L'INDEPENDENCE.
-------------------
Que leur sang impur abreuve leurs sillons donc. To Hell With The International Political Court. Freedom for Laurent Gbagbo Now.
And Timbuktu shall Rise again.

[Stephen Furley]

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent - or one-fifth - of
the total population.
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent
of all Americans describing themselves as "former
Catholics."
The big winner in terms of growing numbers is the
unaffiliated, or the so-called "nones," shooting
up to about 23 percent of the total population from
just 16 percent seven years ago. The 56 million adults
not belonging to any faith tradition outnumber both
Catholics and mainline Protestants.
http://tinyurl.com/qhbtme2
More Than 1,000 Mexicans Leave Catholic Church Daily
Nov 16 2015
MEXICO CITY - More than 1,000 Mexicans left the Catholic
Church every day over the last decade, adding up to some
4 million fallen-away Catholics between 2000 and 2010,
sociologist and historian Roberto Blancarte told Efe.
Blancarte, one of the nation's outstanding specialists
on religious subjects, said that one of the main conclusions
to be drawn from the 2010 census is that Mexico is no longer
a predominantly Catholic country and has become a nation of
religious pluralism.
http://www.laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=390745&CategoryId=14091

20% sounds a very high figure, but I suppose the United States has a lot of residents of Italian and Irish origin; maybe that accounts for it.

[Mitchell Holman]

Post by Stephen Furley

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent - or one-fifth - of
the total population.
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent
of all Americans describing themselves as "former
Catholics."
The big winner in terms of growing numbers is the
unaffiliated, or the so-called "nones," shooting
up to about 23 percent of the total population from
just 16 percent seven years ago. The 56 million adults
not belonging to any faith tradition outnumber both
Catholics and mainline Protestants.
http://tinyurl.com/qhbtme2
More Than 1,000 Mexicans Leave Catholic Church Daily
Nov 16 2015
MEXICO CITY - More than 1,000 Mexicans left the Catholic
Church every day over the last decade, adding up to some
4 million fallen-away Catholics between 2000 and 2010,
sociologist and historian Roberto Blancarte told Efe.
Blancarte, one of the nation's outstanding specialists
on religious subjects, said that one of the main conclusions
to be drawn from the 2010 census is that Mexico is no longer
a predominantly Catholic country and has become a nation of
religious pluralism.
http://www.laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=390745&CategoryId=14091

20% sounds a very high figure, but I suppose the United States has a
lot of residents of Italian and Irish origin; maybe that accounts for
it.

The influx of Mexicans has been preventing
the collapse of US Catholicism but as the above
article shows even THEY are leaving the faith.

[b***@m.nu]

On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 17:04:42 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Stephen Furley

Post by Mitchell Holman
Catholicism is losing members faster than any denomination
May 12, 2015
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds
that the total number of Catholics in the United
States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now
comprising about 20 percent - or one-fifth - of
the total population.
And perhaps more troubling for the church, for
every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics
leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism
loses more members than it gains at a higher rate
than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent
of all Americans describing themselves as "former
Catholics."
The big winner in terms of growing numbers is the
unaffiliated, or the so-called "nones," shooting
up to about 23 percent of the total population from
just 16 percent seven years ago. The 56 million adults
not belonging to any faith tradition outnumber both
Catholics and mainline Protestants.
http://tinyurl.com/qhbtme2
More Than 1,000 Mexicans Leave Catholic Church Daily
Nov 16 2015
MEXICO CITY - More than 1,000 Mexicans left the Catholic
Church every day over the last decade, adding up to some
4 million fallen-away Catholics between 2000 and 2010,
sociologist and historian Roberto Blancarte told Efe.
Blancarte, one of the nation's outstanding specialists
on religious subjects, said that one of the main conclusions
to be drawn from the 2010 census is that Mexico is no longer
a predominantly Catholic country and has become a nation of
religious pluralism.
http://www.laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=390745&CategoryId=14091

20% sounds a very high figure, but I suppose the United States has a
lot of residents of Italian and Irish origin; maybe that accounts for
it.

The influx of Mexicans has been preventing
the collapse of US Catholicism but as the above
article shows even THEY are leaving the faith.

I would give it MAYBE 2 or three more generations and then it will be
gone in the usa

[m***@gmail.com]

Religion is a natural result of taking subjectivity seriously. Subjectivity is about agency of decisions. Things in the universe and people's lives, can turn out several ways, freedom is real and relevant. What that agency is which makes a decision turn out the way it does, is a matter of opinion, which means one can only reach an answer to the question of what it is by choosing the answer. That means that for any decision there are at least 2 valid answers to the question of what the agency of a decision is.

This is how to say the painting is beautiful is equally valid to say the painting is ugly. With the wird beautiful, love is referred to as agency, and with the word ugly, hate us referred to as agency.

That the USA is losing religion means they aren't taking subjectivity seriously anymore. It means they ignore and lack emotions. It will mean big government because lacking emotions to choose, it means government must force what they do. The American spirit will evaporate and government will do the job that the American spirit did before. Americans will become flaky, without emotional depth, the movies they produce will be just as boring as movies from outside the USA. Mental disease will increase, and wars will be lost for lack of motivation to fight.

[raven1]

On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 01:22:35 -0800 (PST), ***@gmail.com
wrote:

Take. Your. Meds.

Post by m***@gmail.com
Religion is a natural result of taking subjectivity seriously. Subjectivity is about agency of decisions. Things in the universe and people's lives, can turn out several ways, freedom is real and relevant. What that agency is which makes a decision turn out the way it does, is a matter of opinion, which means one can only reach an answer to the question of what it is by choosing the answer. That means that for any decision there are at least 2 valid answers to the question of what the agency of a decision is.
This is how to say the painting is beautiful is equally valid to say the painting is ugly. With the wird beautiful, love is referred to as agency, and with the word ugly, hate us referred to as agency.
That the USA is losing religion means they aren't taking subjectivity seriously anymore. It means they ignore and lack emotions. It will mean big government because lacking emotions to choose, it means government must force what they do. The American spirit will evaporate and government will do the job that the American spirit did before. Americans will become flaky, without emotional depth, the movies they produce will be just as boring as movies from outside the USA. Mental disease will increase, and wars will be lost for lack of motivation to fight.

---
raven1
aa # 1096
EAC Vice President (President in charge of vice)
BAAWA Knight

[m***@gmail.com]

Yes of course, decrease in religion, will also mean an increase in drug abuse. Psycho active medications are really just the same as drug abuse. And then there are the 100 or so psycho active drugs the body and brain produce itself some of which can also be abused. Lacking any emotional depth because of not taking subjectivity seriously, drugs become the substitute for emotions.

[raven1]

Post by m***@gmail.com
Yes of course, decrease in religion, will also mean an increase in drug abuse.

I'm not talking about drug abuse. I'm talking about you needing
appropriate psych medication.

[m***@gmail.com]

Yes you proposed to take drugs, because you are an atheist who has no emotions.

[raven1]

Post by m***@gmail.com
Yes you proposed to take drugs, because you are an atheist who has no emotions.

No, I proposed that you need psych meds, because you are as crazy as a
three-wheeled orange.

[m***@gmail.com]

Post by raven1

Post by m***@gmail.com
Yes you proposed to take drugs, because you are an atheist who has no emotions.

No, I proposed that you need psych meds, because you are as crazy as a
three-wheeled orange.

I explained psych meds are drugs all the same. And obviously you have no emotional depth atheist, so you probably are on drugs.

[raven1]

Post by m***@gmail.com

Post by raven1

Post by m***@gmail.com
Yes you proposed to take drugs, because you are an atheist who has no emotions.

No, I proposed that you need psych meds, because you are as crazy as a
three-wheeled orange.

I explained psych meds are drugs all the same.

Yes, and I explained why you need to be on them. See how that works?

[m***@gmail.com]

Post by raven1

Post by m***@gmail.com

Post by raven1

Post by m***@gmail.com
Yes you proposed to take drugs, because you are an atheist who has no emotions.

No, I proposed that you need psych meds, because you are as crazy as a
three-wheeled orange.

I explained psych meds are drugs all the same.

Yes, and I explained why you need to be on them. See how that works?

I see that you think of drugs as a solution.

[raven1]

Post by m***@gmail.com

Post by raven1

Post by m***@gmail.com

Post by raven1

Post by m***@gmail.com
Yes you proposed to take drugs, because you are an atheist who has no emotions.

No, I proposed that you need psych meds, because you are as crazy as a
three-wheeled orange.

I explained psych meds are drugs all the same.

Yes, and I explained why you need to be on them. See how that works?

I see that you think of drugs as a solution.

In the case of your obvious mental illness, they aren't a solution,
but they will help.

[m***@gmail.com]

Post by raven1
In the case of your obvious mental illness, they aren't a solution,
but they will help.

What is the solution then atheist, besides drugs?

[raven1]

Post by m***@gmail.com

Post by raven1
In the case of your obvious mental illness, they aren't a solution,
but they will help.

What is the solution then atheist, besides drugs?

Competent psychiatric care would be a good start. There isn't a
solution, only things that will help.

[MattB]

Post by m***@gmail.com
Yes of course, decrease in religion, will also mean an increase in drug abuse. Psycho active medications are really just the same as drug abuse. And then there are the 100 or so psycho active drugs the body and brain produce itself some of which can also be abused. Lacking any emotional depth because of not taking subjectivity seriously, drugs become the substitute for emotions.

No I'd say that is more a factor of liberal/Progressive thinking.
Seems most high crime and drug use areas are populated by liberal
types.

Religion just makes one a stupid sheep that you here screaming BS all
the time all I here is BAA BAA when I walk past them.

[Mitchell Holman]

Post by m***@gmail.com
Religion is a natural result of taking subjectivity seriously.

So are fairy tales.

Post by m***@gmail.com
Subjectivity is about agency of decisions. Things in the universe and
people's lives, can turn out several ways, freedom is real and
relevant.

What does religion have to do with freedom?

Post by m***@gmail.com
That the USA is losing religion means they aren't taking subjectivity
seriously anymore.

You make that sound like a negative.