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Republican Wisconsin lawmakersays it's fact that the Earth is 6,000 years old
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2017-11-05 03:30:14 UTC
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Berceau: So, my question is, if a geology student says, "I’m sorry, but
the Earth is only 6,000 years old" -- rejecting science that says that the
Earth is considerably older than that -- is it not OK for a professor to
tell that student that they’re wrong?

Kremer: So, this bill stays out of the classroom. Yes, the Earth is 6,000
years old, that’s a fact. But, we can discuss that outside of this room.
(He chuckles.)

Berceau: You said that it is a fact, you do believe it’s a fact?

Kremer: Yeah, I do.
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2017-11-05 04:05:38 UTC
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Berceau: So, my question is, if a geology student says, "I’m sorry, but
the Earth is only 6,000 years old" -- rejecting science that says that the
Earth is considerably older than that -- is it not OK for a professor to
tell that student that they’re wrong?
Kremer: So, this bill stays out of the classroom. Yes, the Earth is 6,000
years old, that’s a fact. But, we can discuss that outside of this room.
(He chuckles.)
Berceau: You said that it is a fact, you do believe it’s a fact?
Kremer: Yeah, I do.
Didn't Wisconsin go to Drumpf?

The real origin of the universe:

"...For some reason, for some time in the beginning,
there were hot lumps. Cold and lonely, they whirled
noiselessly through the black holes of space. These
insignificant lumps came together to form our first
union -- our Sun, the heating system. And about this
glowing gasbag rotated the Earth, a cats-eye among
aggies, blinking in astonishment across the face of
time..."

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2017-11-05 17:31:49 UTC
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Berceau: So, my question is, if a geology student says, "I’m sorry, but
the Earth is only 6,000 years old" -- rejecting science that says that the
Earth is considerably older than that -- is it not OK for a professor to
tell that student that they’re wrong?
Kremer: So, this bill stays out of the classroom. Yes, the Earth is 6,000
years old, that’s a fact. But, we can discuss that outside of this room.
(He chuckles.)
Berceau: You said that it is a fact, you do believe it’s a fact?
Kremer: Yeah, I do.
Didn't Wisconsin go to Drumpf?
"...For some reason, for some time in the beginning,
there were hot lumps. Cold and lonely, they whirled
noiselessly through the black holes of space. These
insignificant lumps came together to form our first
union -- our Sun, the heating system. And about this
glowing gasbag rotated the Earth, a cats-eye among
aggies, blinking in astonishment across the face of
time..."
Yep, some 4.5 billion years ago. However, other galaxies are much older.


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2017-11-05 13:09:59 UTC
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Berceau: So, my question is, if a geology student says, "I’m sorry, but
the Earth is only 6,000 years old" -- rejecting science that says that the
Earth is considerably older than that -- is it not OK for a professor to
tell that student that they’re wrong?
Kremer: So, this bill stays out of the classroom. Yes, the Earth is 6,000
years old, that’s a fact. But, we can discuss that outside of this room.
(He chuckles.)
Berceau: You said that it is a fact, you do believe it’s a fact?
Kremer: Yeah, I do.
And there are a lot of lawmakers who think that socialism
works. Same thing.


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Gronk
2017-11-11 04:22:44 UTC
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And there are a lot of lawmakers who think that socialism
works.
It appears you know *nothing* about Finland, Norway, Sweden, Netherlands, or Belgium, among other nations, Kresch.
Try reading a book.
The ones he reads have pictures to color.
Don Kresch
2017-11-11 05:36:54 UTC
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And there are a lot of lawmakers who think that socialism
works.
It appears you know *nothing* about Finland, Norway, Sweden, Netherlands, or Belgium, among other nations, Kresch.
Try reading a book.
The ones he reads have pictures to color.
Awwww. The poor socialists haven't yet figured out that
socialism doesn't work. They think that economic laws are malleable,
and when confronted with the truth they throw a temper-tantrum. Awww.

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Milton Keynes
2017-11-11 19:41:13 UTC
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Awwww. The poor socialists haven't yet figured out thatsocialism doesn't
work. They think that economic laws are malleable,and when confronted with
the truth they throw a temper-tantrum. Awww
Awwww... poor Donnie boy. He still has not figured out "Supply Side" aka
Trickle Down and all the misery, stock market crashes and deep recessions it
has caused over the past thirty years only to be rescued by Keynesian
economics.

And as soon as Keynesian economics brings prosperity back to America as in
the year 2000, along comes the GOP with its Supply Side shit and fucks up
not only the USA but the whole world.
Don Kresch
2017-11-11 21:09:48 UTC
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Awwww. The poor socialists haven't yet figured out thatsocialism doesn't
work. They think that economic laws are malleable,and when confronted with
the truth they throw a temper-tantrum. Awww
Awwww... poor Donnie boy. He still has not figured out "Supply Side
I'm Austrian School. Try again, Trolly McTrollerson.

And what sort of utter fucktard uses Windows Live Mail for a
newsreader? Get a real newsreader, fuckstain.

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2017-11-12 03:30:53 UTC
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Awwww. The poor socialists haven't yet figured out thatsocialism
doesn't work. They think that economic laws are malleable,and when
confronted with the truth they throw a temper-tantrum. Awww
Awwww... poor Donnie boy. He still has not figured out "Supply Side" aka
Trickle Down and all the misery, stock market crashes and deep
recessions it has caused over the past thirty years only to be rescued
by Keynesian economics.
And as soon as Keynesian economics brings prosperity back to America as
in the year 2000, along comes the GOP with its Supply Side shit and
fucks up not only the USA but the whole world.
The problem with that theory is that the economy was crashing in 1999
before Bush became President, Bill Clinton was still the lead dog.
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Milton Keynes
2017-11-13 21:28:03 UTC
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The problem with that theory is that the economy was crashing in 1999
before Bush became President, Bill Clinton was still the lead dog.
The only thing that was crashing in 1999 was the GOP's impeachment case.
You're probably thinking of the dot com bubble that was set up by the GOP
backing crooks on Wall Street like Meeker, Blodgett and Grubman that advised
risk adverse investors to put their dough into the dot coms despite
Greenspan's "over exuberance" warnings.

Otherwise, Bush43 took an economy that was poised to be debt free by 2020
into the sewer. Once again the GOP did what the GOP does best. In fact EVERY
stock market crash and EVERY depression for the past 120 years started while
a Republican was in the White House. Quite the track record which no doubt
will get an encore before 2020 as farmers and industrialists will not longer
be able to sell abroad thanks to protectionist gibberish and debt going out
of control as it did while Reagan was POTUS.

That's Karma

yesiree.
Don Kresch
2017-11-13 22:52:55 UTC
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Otherwise, Bush43 took an economy that was poised to be debt free by 2020
https://socialistaction.org/2000/09/01/gore-bush-the-budget-surplus-and-other-misconceptions/


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2017-11-14 02:30:44 UTC
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The problem with that theory is that the economy was crashing in 1999
before Bush became President, Bill Clinton was still the lead dog.
The only thing that was crashing in 1999 was
The Velocity of Money and the dot com bubble and so much more. It was
also the beginning of the mortgage collapse with Clinton's man Cuomo
leading the way with his laws suits about "redlining".
Post by Milton Keynes
the GOP's impeachment case.
You're probably thinking of the dot com bubble that was set up by the
GOP backing crooks on Wall Street like Meeker, Blodgett and Grubman that
advised risk adverse investors to put their dough into the dot coms
despite Greenspan's "over exuberance" warnings.
Otherwise, Bush43 took an economy that was poised to be debt free by
2020 into the sewer. Once again the GOP did what the GOP does best. In
fact EVERY stock market crash and EVERY depression for the past 120
years started while a Republican was in the White House. Quite the track
record which no doubt will get an encore before 2020 as farmers and
industrialists will not longer be able to sell abroad thanks to
protectionist gibberish and debt going out of control as it did while
Reagan was POTUS.
That's Karma
yesiree.
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M2V

It looks like a downward trend to me.... but then I'm looking at
government charts.
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Gronk
2017-11-18 06:48:36 UTC
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And there are a lot of lawmakers who think that socialism
works.
It appears you know *nothing* about Finland, Norway, Sweden, Netherlands, or Belgium, among other nations, Kresch.
Try reading a book.
The ones he reads have pictures to color.
Awwww. The poor socialists haven't yet figured out that
socialism doesn't work. They think that economic laws are malleable,
and when confronted with the truth they throw a temper-tantrum. Awww.
"It appears you know *nothing* about Finland, Norway, Sweden, Netherlands,
or Belgium, among other nations, Kresch."
Don Kresch
2017-11-18 14:19:13 UTC
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And there are a lot of lawmakers who think that socialism
works.
It appears you know *nothing* about Finland, Norway, Sweden, Netherlands, or Belgium, among other nations, Kresch.
Try reading a book.
The ones he reads have pictures to color.
Awwww. The poor socialists haven't yet figured out that
socialism doesn't work. They think that economic laws are malleable,
and when confronted with the truth they throw a temper-tantrum. Awww.
"It appears you know *nothing* about Finland, Norway, Sweden, Netherlands,
or Belgium, among other nations, Kresch."
It appears you know nothing of economics, kiddo. None of those
places show that socialism works. In fact: socialism *can't* work.
There's no profit/loss signal, so there's no rational way to allocate
resources.

Please let me know when you've stopped pretending to know what
you're talking about.

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Gronk
2017-11-27 04:58:06 UTC
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And there are a lot of lawmakers who think that socialism
works.
It appears you know *nothing* about Finland, Norway, Sweden, Netherlands, or Belgium, among other nations, Kresch.
Try reading a book.
The ones he reads have pictures to color.
Awwww. The poor socialists haven't yet figured out that
socialism doesn't work. They think that economic laws are malleable,
and when confronted with the truth they throw a temper-tantrum. Awww.
"It appears you know *nothing* about Finland, Norway, Sweden, Netherlands,
or Belgium, among other nations, Kresch."
It appears you know nothing of economics, kiddo. None of those
places show that socialism works. In fact: socialism *can't* work.
There's no profit/loss signal, so there's no rational way to allocate
resources.
Please let me know when you've stopped pretending to know what
you're talking about.
Please let us know when you can follow attributions - Tom is the one who
brought up those other countries which you have yet to address.
Don Kresch
2017-11-27 13:33:28 UTC
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And there are a lot of lawmakers who think that socialism
works.
It appears you know *nothing* about Finland, Norway, Sweden, Netherlands, or Belgium, among other nations, Kresch.
Try reading a book.
The ones he reads have pictures to color.
Awwww. The poor socialists haven't yet figured out that
socialism doesn't work. They think that economic laws are malleable,
and when confronted with the truth they throw a temper-tantrum. Awww.
"It appears you know *nothing* about Finland, Norway, Sweden, Netherlands,
or Belgium, among other nations, Kresch."
It appears you know nothing of economics, kiddo. None of those
places show that socialism works. In fact: socialism *can't* work.
There's no profit/loss signal, so there's no rational way to allocate
resources.
Please let me know when you've stopped pretending to know what
you're talking about.
Please let us know when you can follow attributions
I can. Please let me know when you've stopped pretending to
know what you're talking about.

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Gronk
2017-12-02 05:44:08 UTC
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And there are a lot of lawmakers who think that socialism
works.
It appears you know *nothing* about Finland, Norway, Sweden, Netherlands, or Belgium, among other nations, Kresch.
Try reading a book.
The ones he reads have pictures to color.
Awwww. The poor socialists haven't yet figured out that
socialism doesn't work. They think that economic laws are malleable,
and when confronted with the truth they throw a temper-tantrum. Awww.
"It appears you know *nothing* about Finland, Norway, Sweden, Netherlands,
or Belgium, among other nations, Kresch."
It appears you know nothing of economics, kiddo. None of those
places show that socialism works. In fact: socialism *can't* work.
There's no profit/loss signal, so there's no rational way to allocate
resources.
Please let me know when you've stopped pretending to know what
you're talking about.
Please let us know when you can follow attributions
I can. Please let me know when you've stopped pretending to
know what you're talking about.
Please address what Tom posted. Thanks.
Don Kresch
2017-12-02 13:39:27 UTC
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And there are a lot of lawmakers who think that socialism
works.
It appears you know *nothing* about Finland, Norway, Sweden, Netherlands, or Belgium, among other nations, Kresch.
Try reading a book.
The ones he reads have pictures to color.
Awwww. The poor socialists haven't yet figured out that
socialism doesn't work. They think that economic laws are malleable,
and when confronted with the truth they throw a temper-tantrum. Awww.
"It appears you know *nothing* about Finland, Norway, Sweden, Netherlands,
or Belgium, among other nations, Kresch."
It appears you know nothing of economics, kiddo. None of those
places show that socialism works. In fact: socialism *can't* work.
There's no profit/loss signal, so there's no rational way to allocate
resources.
Please let me know when you've stopped pretending to know what
you're talking about.
Please let us know when you can follow attributions
I can. Please let me know when you've stopped pretending to
know what you're talking about.
Please address what Tom posted.
I did. Learn to read. Thanks.


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Gronk
2017-12-08 04:35:42 UTC
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Please address what Tom posted.
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Learn to read.
Gronk and I already know. We are waiting for you to catch up, Donnie.
Amen to that!
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Thanks.
...for nothing, Kresch.
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Olrik
2017-11-19 05:14:28 UTC
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    And there are a lot of lawmakers who think that socialism
works.
It appears you know *nothing* about Finland, Norway, Sweden,
Netherlands, or Belgium, among other nations, Kresch.
Try reading a book.
The ones he reads have pictures to color.
    Awwww. The poor socialists haven't yet figured out that
socialism doesn't work. They think that economic laws are malleable,
and when confronted with the truth they throw a temper-tantrum. Awww.
"It appears you know *nothing* about Finland, Norway, Sweden,
Netherlands, or Belgium, among other nations, Kresch."
Or Canada for that matter.

Bear in mind that "Kresch" is just a teen with a chip on its shoulders.
He's so "angry" with The Man that he shakes his little fist at
everything and wishes that he'd be the only person on the planet.
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    And there are a lot of lawmakers who think that socialism
works.
It appears you know *nothing* about Finland, Norway, Sweden,
Netherlands, or Belgium, among other nations, Kresch.
Try reading a book.
The ones he reads have pictures to color.
    Awwww. The poor socialists haven't yet figured out that
socialism doesn't work. They think that economic laws are malleable,
and when confronted with the truth they throw a temper-tantrum. Awww.
"It appears you know *nothing* about Finland, Norway, Sweden,
Netherlands, or Belgium, among other nations, Kresch."
Or Canada for that matter.
Bear in mind that "Kresch" is just a teen with a chip on its shoulders.
Cow chip?

More between the shoulders than on them?
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2017-11-12 02:29:45 UTC
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And there are a lot of lawmakers who think that socialism
works.
It appears you know *nothing* about Finland, Norway, Sweden, Netherlands, or Belgium, among other nations, Kresch.
Try reading a book.
The ones he reads have pictures to color.
Speakin' o' reading. Did you hear Trump's excuse for not commenting on the whole Roy Moore scandale? He's too busy reading stuff on issues and that he never has the time to watch tv. Yep, he actually said he hardly watches any tv.
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2017-11-06 10:07:05 UTC
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http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2017/jun/08/jesse-kremer/republican-wisconsin-lawmaker-wrongly-states-its-f/
Berceau: So, my question is, if a geology student says, "Iâ??m sorry, but
the Earth is only 6,000 years old" -- rejecting science that says that the
Earth is considerably older than that -- is it not OK for a professor to
tell that student that theyâ??re wrong?
Kremer: So, this bill stays out of the classroom. Yes, the Earth is 6,000
years old, thatâ??s a fact. But, we can discuss that outside of this room.
(He chuckles.)
Berceau: You said that it is a fact, you do believe itâ??s a fact?
Kremer: Yeah, I do.
Wisconsin is trying to challenge Florida for craziness. They just passed a bill removing the age limits for children having guns. That means there will be guns in the hands of 2-year olds (don't even try to argue that nobody is that stupid, but you know damned well that too many are) during hunting season. How safe would you feel out in the woods knowing that there might be a toddler waving a gun around?

They have a legislator who thinks the solution to the demographic problem of not enough young people is to force women to have more children.
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http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2017/jun/08/jesse-kremer/republican-wisconsin-lawmaker-wrongly-states-its-f/
Berceau: So, my question is, if a geology student says, "I’m sorry, but
the Earth is only 6,000 years old" -- rejecting science that says that the
Earth is considerably older than that -- is it not OK for a professor to
tell that student that they’re wrong?
Kremer: So, this bill stays out of the classroom. Yes, the Earth is 6,000
years old, that’s a fact. But, we can discuss that outside of this room.
(He chuckles.)
Berceau: You said that it is a fact, you do believe it’s a fact?
Kremer: Yeah, I do.
From the cite:

"Kremer introduced the speech bill six days before the hearing, which
was held by a state Assembly committee. It would require the state’s
Board of Regents to adopt a policy for Wisconsin’s public colleges
that includes "a range of disciplinary sanctions for anyone under an
institution's jurisdiction who engages in violent, abusive, indecent,
profane, boisterous, obscene, unreasonably loud, or other disorderly
conduct that interferes with the free expression of others." A student
violator could face a one-semester suspension or expulsion for a
second offense."

Makes it sound like Kremer is fighting back when heckled for his
outlandish beliefs.

And good luck with "violent, abusive, indecent, profane, boisterous,
obscene, unreasonably loud, or other disorderly conduct that
interferes with the free expression of others" All highly subjective,
and only applies to the students, how is that democratic?

Would it still be OK to glower with a menacing expression while
listening to Dodo's freely expressing themselves?
Malcolm McMahon
2017-11-09 14:13:38 UTC
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Berceau: So, my question is, if a geology student says, "I’m sorry, but
the Earth is only 6,000 years old" -- rejecting science that says that the
Earth is considerably older than that -- is it not OK for a professor to
tell that student that they’re wrong?
Kremer: So, this bill stays out of the classroom. Yes, the Earth is 6,000
years old, that’s a fact. But, we can discuss that outside of this room.
(He chuckles.)
Berceau: You said that it is a fact, you do believe it’s a fact?
Kremer: Yeah, I do.
"Kremer introduced the speech bill six days before the hearing, which
was held by a state Assembly committee. It would require the state’s
Board of Regents to adopt a policy for Wisconsin’s public colleges
that includes "a range of disciplinary sanctions for anyone under an
institution's jurisdiction who engages in violent, abusive, indecent,
profane, boisterous, obscene, unreasonably loud, or other disorderly
conduct that interferes with the free expression of others." A student
violator could face a one-semester suspension or expulsion for a
second offense."
Makes it sound like Kremer is fighting back when heckled for his
outlandish beliefs.
And good luck with "violent, abusive, indecent, profane, boisterous,
obscene, unreasonably loud, or other disorderly conduct that
interferes with the free expression of others" All highly subjective,
and only applies to the students, how is that democratic?
Would it still be OK to glower with a menacing expression while
listening to Dodo's freely expressing themselves?
Does need to be something done. Universities should be arenas for debate, not no-platforming the politically incorrect. And it's mostly student pressure that squashes free debate.
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Berceau: So, my question is, if a geology student says, "I’m sorry, but
the Earth is only 6,000 years old" -- rejecting science that says that the
Earth is considerably older than that -- is it not OK for a professor to
tell that student that they’re wrong?
Kremer: So, this bill stays out of the classroom. Yes, the Earth is 6,000
years old, that’s a fact. But, we can discuss that outside of this room.
(He chuckles.)
Berceau: You said that it is a fact, you do believe it’s a fact?
Kremer: Yeah, I do.
"Kremer introduced the speech bill six days before the hearing, which
was held by a state Assembly committee. It would require the state’s
Board of Regents to adopt a policy for Wisconsin’s public colleges
that includes "a range of disciplinary sanctions for anyone under an
institution's jurisdiction who engages in violent, abusive, indecent,
profane, boisterous, obscene, unreasonably loud, or other disorderly
conduct that interferes with the free expression of others." A student
violator could face a one-semester suspension or expulsion for a
second offense."
Makes it sound like Kremer is fighting back when heckled for his
outlandish beliefs.
And good luck with "violent, abusive, indecent, profane, boisterous,
obscene, unreasonably loud, or other disorderly conduct that
interferes with the free expression of others" All highly subjective,
and only applies to the students, how is that democratic?
Would it still be OK to glower with a menacing expression while
listening to Dodo's freely expressing themselves?
Does need to be something done. Universities should be arenas for debate, not no-platforming the politically incorrect. And it's mostly student pressure that squashes free debate.
Democracy is like sex, good stuff, but it can get messy.

If the venue is a formal debate where there are rules and the
objective is providing rational argument and rebuttals I agree.

But if some school administrator is just using his position to push an
agenda, there should be vociferous condemnation; particularly if isn't
a debate and there is no opposition viewpoint allowed.


"The bill, which is expected to be taken up by the Assembly in June
2017, comes as free speech issues have grown more contentious on
college campuses across the country, fostering concerns among
Republicans that conservative speakers aren't treated equally."

Republicans not be treated equally? Horrors! God knows Republicans
bend over backwards to treat people equally.
TheRealMccoy
2017-11-18 15:22:16 UTC
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Kremer: Yeah, I do.
I do not know how old it is, but it did not form by accretion
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2017-11-18 17:35:20 UTC
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http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2017/jun/08/jesse-kremer/republican-wisconsin-lawmaker-wrongly-states-its-f/
Berceau: So, my question is, if a geology student says, "I’m sorry, but
the Earth is only 6,000 years old" -- rejecting science that says that the
Earth is considerably older than that -- is it not OK for a professor to
tell that student that they’re wrong?
Kremer: So, this bill stays out of the classroom. Yes, the Earth is 6,000
years old, that’s a fact. But, we can discuss that outside of this room.
(He chuckles.)
Berceau: You said that it is a fact, you do believe it’s a fact?
Kremer: Yeah, I do.
Wisconsin Republican [Lawmaker} Thinks Earth is 6,000 Years Old
NBC15.com - June 7, 2017

-- http://www.nbc15.com/content/news/Wisconsin-Republican-thinks-Earth-is-6000-years-old-427080213.html
hypatiab7
2017-11-18 21:12:16 UTC
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http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2017/jun/08/jesse-kremer/republican-wisconsin-lawmaker-wrongly-states-its-f/
Berceau: So, my question is, if a geology student says, "I’m sorry, but
the Earth is only 6,000 years old" -- rejecting science that says that the
Earth is considerably older than that -- is it not OK for a professor to
tell that student that they’re wrong?
Kremer: So, this bill stays out of the classroom. Yes, the Earth is 6,000
years old, that’s a fact. But, we can discuss that outside of this room.
(He chuckles.)
Berceau: You said that it is a fact, you do believe it’s a fact?
Kremer: Yeah, I do.
Wisconsin Republican [Lawmaker} Thinks Earth is 6,000 Years Old
NBC15.com - June 7, 2017
-- http://www.nbc15.com/content/news/Wisconsin-Republican-thinks-Earth-is-6000-years-old-427080213.html
He's probably one of the ones wearing cheese shaped hats.
Deng Qi Feng
2017-11-19 12:21:21 UTC
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Fact:

The money printed on paper by the FED is legal counterfeit

An IOU handwritten by you stating that you owe me one bag of rice due at harvest time for me giving you a tool you need to harvest that rice is deemed “counterfeit” by the government

Fed printed money is just an IOU too...the government says it owes you X amount of dollars of services for whatever amount the label says on your piece of fine art called money

Money is mass produced fine art that is all it really is
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