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Kurt Nicklas
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There are several things about Islam that really irk me:

1.Mohammed was illiterate. How does he know that what the Koran says is the word of Allah? He could not read it.

2.The Koran's attitude toward non-believers changes radically from the first sections to the last sections. How do the Moslems know what is the correct way?

3.Islam's 2 main sects(Sunni, Shia) actually disagree to the point of killing each other. How can anyone consider that one religion?

4.Islam condemns homosexuality, yet permits and encourages pedophilia.Mohammed married a 9 year old girl.

5.Islam encourages Taquiyyah, which is lying to advance Islam.
No other religion actually encourages that.
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2017-08-12 21:41:34 UTC
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1.Mohammed was illiterate. How does he know that what the Koran says is the word of Allah? He could not read it.
Just like most of the important people in the Bible.
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2.The Koran's attitude toward non-believers changes radically from the first sections to the last sections. How do the Moslems know what is the correct way?
Like the difference between the OT and the NT.
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3.Islam's 2 main sects(Sunni, Shia) actually disagree to the point of killing each other. How can anyone consider that one religion?
Like Protestants and Catholics and Catholics and Muslims.
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4.Islam condemns homosexuality, yet permits and encourages pedophilia.Mohammed married a 9 year old girl.
Like the OT allows Imaginary Moses troops to have sex slaves who were prepubescent.
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5.Islam encourages Taquiyyah, which is lying to advance Islam.
No other religion actually encourages that.
Just like the theists on this very NG.
Siri Cruise
2017-08-12 23:08:32 UTC
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Like the OT allows Imaginary Moses troops to have sex slaves who were prepubescent.
That would be Joshua. Moses never enterred the promised land.
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Kurt Nicklas
2017-08-14 16:23:29 UTC
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JTEM
2017-08-14 21:31:21 UTC
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Just like most of the important people in the Bible.
Wow like it's supposed to be unusual for mentally
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2017-08-12 23:07:08 UTC
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1.Mohammed was illiterate. How does he know that what the Koran says is the
word of Allah? He could not read it.
Either he was inspired and recited revelation to scribes, or he was making it up
as he went along. See next response.
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2.The Koran's attitude toward non-believers changes radically from the first
sections to the last sections. How do the Moslems know what is the correct
way?
When two passages disagree, the later passage supersedes.
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3.Islam's 2 main sects(Sunni, Shia) actually disagree to the point of killing
each other. How can anyone consider that one religion?
Hundred Years War.
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4.Islam condemns homosexuality, yet permits and encourages
pedophilia.Mohammed married a 9 year old girl.
Most people died younger, so they married younger. Before modern medicine most
women died in childbirth, so the strength of youth was an asset. I don't know
what the usual ages back then actually were, but 18 would be an old maid.

It would be more interesting to point out some of his convenient revelations.
Like only four wives but Mohammed has a revelation he was allowed any number.
When his wives caught him screwing a slave (or servant?), the wives gave him
grief until he had revelation that they should just shut up. Same when he wanted
to screw his adopted son's wife. Et cetera. Compare David and Bathsheba and how
that meant David was not allowed to build the temple. Compare the revelations of
the Mormons.
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5.Islam encourages Taquiyyah, which is lying to advance Islam.
No other religion actually encourages that.
Too many people decide their religion's ends justify any means.
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2017-08-12 23:19:13 UTC
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1.Mohammed was illiterate. How does he know that what the Koran says is the
word of Allah? He could not read it.
Either he was inspired and recited revelation to scribes, or he was making it up
as he went along. See next response.
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2.The Koran's attitude toward non-believers changes radically from the first
sections to the last sections. How do the Moslems know what is the correct
way?
When two passages disagree, the later passage supersedes.
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3.Islam's 2 main sects(Sunni, Shia) actually disagree to the point of killing
each other. How can anyone consider that one religion?
Hundred Years War.
The Hundred Years War ended centuries ago. The Sunnis and Shiites are still at war today.
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4.Islam condemns homosexuality, yet permits and encourages
pedophilia.Mohammed married a 9 year old girl.
Most people died younger, so they married younger. Before modern medicine most
women died in childbirth, so the strength of youth was an asset. I don't know
what the usual ages back then actually were, but 18 would be an old maid.
Nonsense
People like Galileo lived into their 70s.
Newton lived past 60. So did Michaelangelo.So did Moses.
So did Leonardo Da Vinci. Henry VIII's wife bore him a daughter and lived thru it.She became Elizabeth I.
Jeanne Douglas
2017-08-13 04:06:12 UTC
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1.Mohammed was illiterate. How does he know that what the Koran says is the
word of Allah? He could not read it.
Either he was inspired and recited revelation to scribes, or he was making it up
as he went along. See next response.
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2.The Koran's attitude toward non-believers changes radically from the first
sections to the last sections. How do the Moslems know what is the correct
way?
When two passages disagree, the later passage supersedes.
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3.Islam's 2 main sects(Sunni, Shia) actually disagree to the point of killing
each other. How can anyone consider that one religion?
Hundred Years War.
The Hundred Years War ended centuries ago. The Sunnis and Shiites are still at war today.
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4.Islam condemns homosexuality, yet permits and encourages
pedophilia.Mohammed married a 9 year old girl.
Most people died younger, so they married younger. Before modern medicine most
women died in childbirth, so the strength of youth was an asset. I don't know
what the usual ages back then actually were, but 18 would be an old maid.
Nonsense
People like Galileo lived into their 70s.
Newton lived past 60. So did Michaelangelo.So did Moses.
So did Leonardo Da Vinci. Henry VIII's wife bore him a daughter and lived thru it.She became Elizabeth I.
So fucking what? She didn't say all people died young, she said most people died younger.

Talk about being unable to read simple English. Sheesh!
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2017-08-13 15:49:12 UTC
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1.Mohammed was illiterate. How does he know that what the Koran says is the
word of Allah? He could not read it.
Either he was inspired and recited revelation to scribes, or he was making it up
as he went along. See next response.
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2.The Koran's attitude toward non-believers changes radically from the first
sections to the last sections. How do the Moslems know what is the correct
way?
When two passages disagree, the later passage supersedes.
Post by v***@gmail.com
3.Islam's 2 main sects(Sunni, Shia) actually disagree to the point of killing
each other. How can anyone consider that one religion?
Hundred Years War.
The Hundred Years War ended centuries ago. The Sunnis and Shiites are still at war today.
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4.Islam condemns homosexuality, yet permits and encourages
pedophilia.Mohammed married a 9 year old girl.
Most people died younger, so they married younger. Before modern medicine most
women died in childbirth, so the strength of youth was an asset. I don't know
what the usual ages back then actually were, but 18 would be an old maid.
Nonsense
People like Galileo lived into their 70s.
Newton lived past 60. So did Michaelangelo.So did Moses.
So did Leonardo Da Vinci. Henry VIII's wife bore him a daughter and lived thru it.She became Elizabeth I.
So fucking what? She didn't say all people died young, she said most people died younger.
Talk about being unable to read simple English. Sheesh!
Did you expect anything else of Mad Joe?
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2017-08-13 03:53:04 UTC
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1.Mohammed was illiterate. How does he know that what the Koran says is the
word of Allah? He could not read it.
Either he was inspired and recited revelation to scribes, or he was making it up
as he went along. See next response.
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2.The Koran's attitude toward non-believers changes radically from the first
sections to the last sections. How do the Moslems know what is the correct
way?
When two passages disagree, the later passage supersedes.
Post by v***@gmail.com
3.Islam's 2 main sects(Sunni, Shia) actually disagree to the point of killing
each other. How can anyone consider that one religion?
Hundred Years War.
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4.Islam condemns homosexuality, yet permits and encourages
pedophilia.Mohammed married a 9 year old girl.
Most people died younger, so they married younger. Before modern medicine most
women died in childbirth, so the strength of youth was an asset. I don't know
what the usual ages back then actually were, but 18 would be an old maid.
If that were true, the adherents of other religions during the 7th century AD would also be mating with little girls. I've seen no evidence of such a thing
in anything but Islam.

If most women died in childbirth, each married couple would have only one child. What about the big families that we saw in Catholic Europe and the Moslem middle East in places like Italy?
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It would be more interesting to point out some of his convenient revelations.
Like only four wives but Mohammed has a revelation he was allowed any number.
When his wives caught him screwing a slave (or servant?), the wives gave him
grief until he had revelation that they should just shut up. Same when he wanted
to screw his adopted son's wife. Et cetera. Compare David and Bathsheba and how
that meant David was not allowed to build the temple. Compare the revelations of
the Mormons.
Post by v***@gmail.com
5.Islam encourages Taquiyyah, which is lying to advance Islam.
No other religion actually encourages that.
Too many people decide their religion's ends justify any means.
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Siri Cruise
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4.Islam condemns homosexuality, yet permits and encourages
pedophilia.Mohammed married a 9 year old girl.
Most people died younger, so they married younger. Before modern medicine most
women died in childbirth, so the strength of youth was an asset. I don't know
what the usual ages back then actually were, but 18 would be an old maid.
If that were true, the adherents of other religions during the 7th century AD
would also be mating with little girls. I've seen no evidence of such a thing
in anything but Islam.
I don't know about marrying at nine, so I don't know how common that age was,
but twelve to fourteen were common until recently. It is still legal in most of
the USA with restrictions.
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If most women died in childbirth, each married couple would have only one
child. What about the big families that we saw in Catholic Europe and the
Moslem middle East in places like Italy?
They survived the first dozen births. Eventually exhaustion, infection, or
hemmorage would take their toll. In the short time between birth and the
placenta detachment, the mother's womb has cut off all blood flow, otherwise the
mother bleeds to death in a few minutes without immediate medical intervention.
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Jeanne Douglas
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1.Mohammed was illiterate. How does he know that what the Koran says is the
word of Allah? He could not read it.
Either he was inspired and recited revelation to scribes, or he was making it up
as he went along. See next response.
Post by v***@gmail.com
2.The Koran's attitude toward non-believers changes radically from the first
sections to the last sections. How do the Moslems know what is the correct
way?
When two passages disagree, the later passage supersedes.
Post by v***@gmail.com
3.Islam's 2 main sects(Sunni, Shia) actually disagree to the point of killing
each other. How can anyone consider that one religion?
Hundred Years War.
Post by v***@gmail.com
4.Islam condemns homosexuality, yet permits and encourages
pedophilia.Mohammed married a 9 year old girl.
Most people died younger, so they married younger. Before modern medicine most
women died in childbirth, so the strength of youth was an asset. I don't know
what the usual ages back then actually were, but 18 would be an old maid.
If that were true, the adherents of other religions during the 7th century AD would also be mating with little girls. I've seen no evidence of such a thing
in anything but Islam.
If most women died in childbirth, each married couple would have only one child. What about the big families that we saw in Catholic Europe and the Moslem middle East in places like Italy?
Who said they died after only one child (though many did). Some didn't die of childbirth until they had damaged their bodies so much in multiple pregnancies that their bodies gave out. Shah Jahan built the Taj Mahal in honor of his favorite wife, who died giving birth to their 14th child.
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1.Mohammed was illiterate. How does he know that what the Koran says is the word of Allah? He could not read it.
So is your jesus.
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2.The Koran's attitude toward non-believers changes radically from the first sections to the last sections. How do the Moslems know what is the correct way?
They know all the wrong way.
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3.Islam's 2 main sects(Sunni, Shia) actually disagree to the point of killing each other. How can anyone consider that one religion?
Roman catholic and protestant also kill one another....
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4.Islam condemns homosexuality, yet permits and encourages pedophilia.Mohammed married a 9 year old girl.
Likewise with your jesus?
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5.Islam encourages Taquiyyah, which is lying to advance Islam.
No other religion actually encourages that.
Bible is full of lying stories!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jeanne Douglas
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1.Mohammed was illiterate. How does he know that what the Koran says is the word of Allah? He could not read it.
So is your jesus.
The Jesus in the story is a rabbi. Rabbis are always literate.
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1.Mohammed was illiterate. How does he know that what the Koran says is
the word of Allah? He could not read it.
So is your jesus.
The Jesus in the story is a rabbi. Rabbis are always literate.
There is one story of him writing in the dust. Other than that the bible doesn't
say. Nothing in the bible is claimed to have been written by him.

Jesus might have been called a rabbi by his followers out of respect, but the
record is silent on him doing any training that the priests or pharisees would
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1.Mohammed was illiterate. How does he know that what the Koran says is
the word of Allah? He could not read it.
So is your jesus.
The Jesus in the story is a rabbi. Rabbis are always literate.
There is one story of him writing in the dust. Other than that the bible doesn't
say. Nothing in the bible is claimed to have been written by him.
Jesus might have been called a rabbi by his followers out of respect, but the
record is silent on him doing any training that the priests or pharisees would
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I found this and it appears to explain the situation you describe:

http://ourrabbijesus.com/articles/can-we-call-jesus-rabbi/

According to the link, the word "rabbi" was not applied to Jewish religious teachers until after 70AD. The word"rabbi" merely means teacher and that is the function rabbis in Judaism perform today. They are not authority figures in
the sense that priests, bishops and cardinals are in Catholicism.
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1.Mohammed was illiterate. How does he know that what
the Koran says is the word of Allah? He could not read
it.
So is your jesus.
The Jesus in the story is a rabbi. Rabbis are always
literate.
& married.

walksalone who used to wonder why the magic age of thirty had
to be waited for. & then found out archaic Jews could not be
a rabbi before they turned thirty.
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1.Mohammed was illiterate. How does he know that what
the Koran says is the word of Allah? He could not read
it.
So is your jesus.
The Jesus in the story is a rabbi. Rabbis are always
literate.
& married.
Yes.
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to be waited for. & then found out archaic Jews could not be
a rabbi before they turned thirty.
Hmmm, I hadn't heard that before. Very interesting.
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1.Mohammed was illiterate. How does he know that what the Koran says is the word of Allah? He could not read it.
So is your jesus.
The Jesus in the story is a rabbi. Rabbis are always literate.
Is this your own sarcasm or judgement?
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1.Mohammed was illiterate. How does he know that what the Koran says is the word of Allah? He could not read it.
So is your jesus.
The Jesus in the story is a rabbi. Rabbis are always literate.
Is this your own sarcasm or judgement?
Neither. It's Jewish tradition. It's how they kept the religion intact through pogroms and banishments for 2000 years.

So, it was a statement of fact.
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Why do you think anybody here gives a damn for your opinion?
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2017-08-14 21:37:17 UTC
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Why do you think anybody here gives a damn for your opinion?
Where *Everybody* hangs on the word of a a mentally
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The Qur'an sounds a lot like your Bible, kunt. Have you read your Bible,
kunt? There are an awful lot of Abrahamic theists like you here who don't
appear to have a clue what their Bible says.

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