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The Decrees of God - 027
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Bob
2017-09-12 13:00:34 UTC
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It is therefore no derogation to God’s understanding, that He does not
foreknow all of them, any more than it would be to the goodness of an eye,
that it does not see what as yet does not exist. When free agents perform
acts unforeseen to God, His wisdom, say they, provides Him with a
multitude of resources, by which He overrules the result, and still makes
them concur substantially (not absolutely) with His wise and good plans.


-R. L. Dabney
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2017-09-12 13:06:28 UTC
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It is therefore no derogation to God’s understanding, that He does
not foreknow all of them, any more than it would be to the goodness of
an eye, that it does not see what as yet does not exist. When free
agents perform acts unforeseen to God, His wisdom, say they, provides
Him with a multitude of resources, by which He overrules the result,
and still makes them concur substantially (not absolutely) with His
wise and good plans.
-R. L. Dabney
The Decrees of Bob the Boob - 0086: Keep reading the above statement
until your head explodes. Then, you'll be as crazy and Boob and
Dabney!
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2017-09-12 14:12:43 UTC
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It is therefore no derogation to God’s understanding, that He does not
foreknow all of them, any more than it would be to the goodness of an eye,
that it does not see what as yet does not exist. When free agents perform
acts unforeseen to God, His wisdom, say they, provides Him with a
multitude of resources, by which He overrules the result, and still makes
them concur substantially (not absolutely) with His wise and good plans.
-R. L. Dabney
There you have it god is not omniscient or all powerful, it follows
that his "wisdom" is questionable too.
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2017-09-12 14:28:43 UTC
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It is therefore no derogation to God’s understanding, that He does not
foreknow all of them, any more than it would be to the goodness of an eye,
that it does not see what as yet does not exist. When free agents perform
acts unforeseen to God, His wisdom, say they, provides Him with a
multitude of resources, by which He overrules the result, and still makes
them concur substantially (not absolutely) with His wise and good plans.
-R. L. Dabney
There you have it god is not omniscient or all powerful, it follows
that his "wisdom" is questionable too.
Oh but you're wrong. You're so wrong.

Go back and read yesterday's "The Decrees of God - 026".

You might have to have someone else read it to you, and
then explain what it means, but hopefully you'll see where
you're so wrong.

You're welcome. You idiot.

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2017-09-12 15:00:46 UTC
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It is therefore no derogation to God’s understanding, that He does not
foreknow all of them, any more than it would be to the goodness of an eye,
that it does not see what as yet does not exist. When free agents perform
acts unforeseen to God, His wisdom, say they, provides Him with a
multitude of resources, by which He overrules the result, and still makes
them concur substantially (not absolutely) with His wise and good plans.
-R. L. Dabney
There you have it god is not omniscient or all powerful, it follows
that his "wisdom" is questionable too.
Oh but you're wrong. You're so wrong.
You who get your marching orders from some superstitious goat herding
nomads, who believed the earth is flat, and died thousands of years
ago think I'm wrong?

I should hope so!
Leo Sgouros
2017-09-12 15:04:33 UTC
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Default, please show me evidence that people believed the earth was flat at any time in history.
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2017-09-12 16:01:55 UTC
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Default, please show me evidence that people believed the earth was flat at any time in history.
You are unfamiliar with Copernicus, Da Vinci, and their problems with
their views on the universe, and their church?

Eratosthenes had measured the diameter of the earth in ~ 200 BCE, and
the church came on board by ~1660 CE.

Modern flat Earth societies consist of individuals who believe that
the Earth is flat rather than an oblate spheroid. Such groups date
from the middle of the 20th century; some adherents are serious and
some are not. Those who are serious are often motivated by
pseudoscience or religious literalism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_flat_Earth_societies

But you already know all this so why are you asking?
Leo Sgouros
2017-09-12 16:48:46 UTC
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Default, please show me evidence that people believed the earth was flat at any time in history.
You are unfamiliar with Copernicus, Da Vinci, and their problems with
their views on the universe, and their church?
Eratosthenes had measured the diameter of the earth in ~ 200 BCE, and
the church came on board by ~1660 CE.
Modern flat Earth societies consist of individuals who believe that
the Earth is flat rather than an oblate spheroid. Such groups date
from the middle of the 20th century; some adherents are serious and
some are not. Those who are serious are often motivated by
pseudoscience or religious literalism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_flat_Earth_societies
But you already know all this so why are you asking?
Because there is no actual evidence, and it was your own claim. Your own post mentions Eratosthenes, who lived before Copernicus and DaVinci (and Jesus, for that matter), and it makes no difference about the modern flat earth societies.
Smiler
2017-09-12 20:16:10 UTC
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Default, please show me evidence that people believed the earth was
flat at any time in history.
You are unfamiliar with Copernicus, Da Vinci, and their problems with
their views on the universe, and their church?
Eratosthenes had measured the diameter of the earth in ~ 200 BCE, and
the church came on board by ~1660 CE.
Modern flat Earth societies consist of individuals who believe that the
Earth is flat rather than an oblate spheroid. Such groups date from the
middle of the 20th century; some adherents are serious and some are
not. Those who are serious are often motivated by pseudoscience or
religious literalism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_flat_Earth_societies
But you already know all this so why are you asking?
Because there is no actual evidence, and it was your own claim. Your own
post mentions Eratosthenes, who lived before Copernicus and DaVinci (and
Jesus, for that matter), and it makes no difference about the modern
flat earth societies.
Your own bible is evidence that people believed that the earth is flat.
The bible mentions 'the four corners of the earth' several times.
How does an oblate spheroid have corners?
The bible also mentions someone being taken up a mountain to view 'all the
lands of the earth'.
How is that possible on an oblate spheroid?
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Smiler, The godless one.
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Gods are all tailored to order. They are made
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.
Don Martin
2017-09-12 22:01:01 UTC
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Default, please show me evidence that people believed the earth was
flat at any time in history.
You are unfamiliar with Copernicus, Da Vinci, and their problems with
their views on the universe, and their church?
Eratosthenes had measured the diameter of the earth in ~ 200 BCE, and
the church came on board by ~1660 CE.
Modern flat Earth societies consist of individuals who believe that the
Earth is flat rather than an oblate spheroid. Such groups date from the
middle of the 20th century; some adherents are serious and some are
not. Those who are serious are often motivated by pseudoscience or
religious literalism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_flat_Earth_societies
But you already know all this so why are you asking?
Because there is no actual evidence, and it was your own claim. Your own
post mentions Eratosthenes, who lived before Copernicus and DaVinci (and
Jesus, for that matter), and it makes no difference about the modern
flat earth societies.
Your own bible is evidence that people believed that the earth is flat.
The bible mentions 'the four corners of the earth' several times.
How does an oblate spheroid have corners?
The bible also mentions someone being taken up a mountain to view 'all the
lands of the earth'.
How is that possible on an oblate spheroid?
With very, very large mirrors, strategically sited?
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aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
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2017-09-12 16:09:25 UTC
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On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 08:04:33 -0700 (PDT), Leo Sgouros
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Default, please show me evidence that people believed the earth was flat at any time in history.
...well, there's this from wiki:

" Many ancient cultures subscribed to a flat Earth cosmography,
including Greece until the classical period, the Bronze Age and Iron
Age civilizations of the Near East until the Hellenistic period, India
until the Gupta period (early centuries AD), and China until the 17th
century. That paradigm was also typically held in the aboriginal
cultures of the Americas, and the notion of a flat Earth domed by the
firmament in the shape of an inverted bowl was common in
pre-scientific societies."
Leo Sgouros
2017-09-12 16:51:20 UTC
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Default, please show me evidence that people believed the earth was flat at any time in history.
" Many ancient cultures subscribed to a flat Earth cosmography,
including Greece until the classical period, the Bronze Age and Iron
Age civilizations of the Near East until the Hellenistic period, India
until the Gupta period (early centuries AD), and China until the 17th
century. That paradigm was also typically held in the aboriginal
cultures of the Americas, and the notion of a flat Earth domed by the
firmament in the shape of an inverted bowl was common in
pre-scientific societies."
Did you notice that paragraph had one cite?
"Their cosmography as far as we know anything about it was practically of one type up til the time of the white man's arrival upon the scene. That of the Borneo Dayaks may furnish us with some idea of it. 'They consider the Earth to be a flat surface, whilst the heavens are a dome, a kind of glass shade which covers the Earth and comes in contact with it at the horizon.'" Lucien Levy-Bruhl, Primitive Mentality (repr. Boston: Beacon, 1966) 353; "The usual primitive conception of the world's form ... [is] flat and round below and surmounted above by a solid firmament in the shape of an inverted bowl." H. B. Alexander, The Mythology of All Races 10: North American (repr. New York: Cooper Square, 1964) 24
Kevrob
2017-09-12 17:25:44 UTC
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Default, please show me evidence that people believed the earth was flat at any time in history.
" Many ancient cultures subscribed to a flat Earth cosmography,
including Greece until the classical period, the Bronze Age and Iron
Age civilizations of the Near East until the Hellenistic period, India
until the Gupta period (early centuries AD), and China until the 17th
century. That paradigm was also typically held in the aboriginal
cultures of the Americas, and the notion of a flat Earth domed by the
firmament in the shape of an inverted bowl was common in
pre-scientific societies."
Did you notice that paragraph had one cite?
"Their cosmography as far as we know anything about it was practically of one type up til the time of the white man's arrival upon the scene. That of the Borneo Dayaks may furnish us with some idea of it. 'They consider the Earth to be a flat surface, whilst the heavens are a dome, a kind of glass shade which covers the Earth and comes in contact with it at the horizon.'" Lucien Levy-Bruhl, Primitive Mentality (repr. Boston: Beacon, 1966) 353; "The usual primitive conception of the world's form ... [is] flat and round below and surmounted above by a solid firmament in the shape of an inverted bowl." H. B. Alexander, The Mythology of All Races 10: North American (repr. New York: Cooper Square, 1964) 24
There have been people who knew the surface of the Earth curved,
so that ships in the distance didn't disappear all at once, but
bit by bit, until one could only see the top of the mast, then nothing.
The same for a rider or wagon on a steppe or prairie. This was, before
scientific examination of the world, specialized knowledge. A sailor or
someone living on a wide grassland may have known it. It was probably
only of use to those dealing with ships or caravans.

Some of the Ancient Greeks figured it out, as did some scholars
in India:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_geodesy

The Muslim scholars knew their Ptolemy and Aristotle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography_and_cartography_in_medieval_Islam#Mathematical_geography_and_geodesy

I suspect that, religious considerations aside, whether the Earth
was flat or spherical only mattered to a few, so the issue didn't
come up much.

Kevin R
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2017-09-12 17:30:35 UTC
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Default, please show me evidence that people believed the earth was flat at any time in history.
" Many ancient cultures subscribed to a flat Earth cosmography,
including Greece until the classical period, the Bronze Age and Iron
Age civilizations of the Near East until the Hellenistic period, India
until the Gupta period (early centuries AD), and China until the 17th
century. That paradigm was also typically held in the aboriginal
cultures of the Americas, and the notion of a flat Earth domed by the
firmament in the shape of an inverted bowl was common in
pre-scientific societies."
Did you notice that paragraph had one cite?
"Their cosmography as far as we know anything about it was practically of one type up til the time of the white man's arrival upon the scene. That of the Borneo Dayaks may furnish us with some idea of it. 'They consider the Earth to be a flat surface, whilst the heavens are a dome, a kind of glass shade which covers the Earth and comes in contact with it at the horizon.'" Lucien Levy-Bruhl, Primitive Mentality (repr. Boston: Beacon, 1966) 353; "The usual primitive conception of the world's form ... [is] flat and round below and surmounted above by a solid firmament in the shape of an inverted bowl." H. B. Alexander, The Mythology of All Races 10: North American (repr. New York: Cooper Square, 1964) 24
There have been people who knew the surface of the Earth curved,
so that ships in the distance didn't disappear all at once, but
bit by bit, until one could only see the top of the mast, then nothing.
The same for a rider or wagon on a steppe or prairie. This was, before
scientific examination of the world, specialized knowledge. A sailor or
someone living on a wide grassland may have known it. It was probably
only of use to those dealing with ships or caravans.
Some of the Ancient Greeks figured it out, as did some scholars
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_geodesy
The Muslim scholars knew their Ptolemy and Aristotle.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography_and_cartography_in_medieval_Islam#Mathematical_geography_and_geodesy
I suspect that, religious considerations aside, whether the Earth
was flat or spherical only mattered to a few, so the issue didn't
come up much.
Kevin R
Thank you. Seafaring races most certainly knew.
My reason for entering this thread is the tendency to refer to the ancients as ignorant goat herders, those goat herders having given the world pyramids, the zodiac(which is really old)
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/decoding-antikythera-mechanism-first-computer-180953979/

that thingy, and who certainly noticed the earths curvature on the moon.
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2017-09-12 18:24:53 UTC
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Default, please show me evidence that people believed the earth was
flat at any time in history.
Matthew 4:
...the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high
mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the
world, and the glory of them


Amos 9:6 The One who builds His upper chambers
in the heavens And has founded His -----> vaulted
dome over the earth <-------



Revelation 7:1
After this I saw four angels standing at the
------> four corners of the earth <----------

Revelation 7:3
and will go out to deceive the nations in
-----> the four corners of the earth <---------

Job 28:24
for he views the ------> ends of the earth <------
and sees everything ----> under the heavens. <-------

Deuteronomy 28:49
The Lord will bring a nation against you from
far away, from -----> the ends of the earth <-------

Daniel 4:10-11.
...the king saw a tree of great height at the
centre of the earth...reaching with its top to
the sky and --------> visible to the earth's
farthest bounds <---------
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2017-09-12 19:42:54 UTC
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.> Matthew 4:
.> ...the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high
.> mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the
.> world, and the glory of them

Also:

"Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven.
And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when
they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven,
with power and great glory."

AA
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Amos 9:6 The One who builds His upper chambers
in the heavens And has founded His -----> vaulted
dome over the earth <-------
Revelation 7:1
After this I saw four angels standing at the
------> four corners of the earth <----------
Revelation 7:3
and will go out to deceive the nations in
-----> the four corners of the earth <---------
Job 28:24
for he views the ------> ends of the earth <------
and sees everything ----> under the heavens. <-------
Deuteronomy 28:49
The Lord will bring a nation against you from
far away, from -----> the ends of the earth <-------
Daniel 4:10-11.
...the king saw a tree of great height at the
centre of the earth...reaching with its top to
the sky and --------> visible to the earth's
farthest bounds <---------
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2017-09-13 04:58:52 UTC
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Default, please show me evidence that people believed the earth was
flat at any time in history.
.> ...the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high
.> mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the
.> world, and the glory of them
"Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven.
And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when
they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven,
with power and great glory."
AA
Pretty obvious.
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Amos 9:6 The One who builds His upper chambers
in the heavens And has founded His -----> vaulted
dome over the earth <-------
Revelation 7:1
After this I saw four angels standing at the
------> four corners of the earth <----------
Revelation 7:3
and will go out to deceive the nations in
-----> the four corners of the earth <---------
Job 28:24
for he views the ------> ends of the earth <------
and sees everything ----> under the heavens. <-------
Deuteronomy 28:49
The Lord will bring a nation against you from
far away, from -----> the ends of the earth <-------
Daniel 4:10-11.
...the king saw a tree of great height at the
centre of the earth...reaching with its top to
the sky and --------> visible to the earth's
farthest bounds <---------
Don Martin
2017-09-12 22:01:01 UTC
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Default, please show me evidence that people believed the earth was flat at any time in history.
I suspect that most of the peasants still do. Sailors and educated
persons have always known better.
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It is therefore no derogation to God’s understanding, that He does not
foreknow all of them, any more than it would be to the goodness of an eye,
that it does not see what as yet does not exist. When free agents perform
acts unforeseen to God, His wisdom, say they, provides Him with a
multitude of resources, by which He overrules the result, and still makes
them concur substantially (not absolutely) with His wise and good plans.
-R. L. Dabney
There you have it god is not omniscient or all powerful, it follows
that his "wisdom" is questionable too.
Oh but you're wrong. You're so wrong.
You who get your marching orders from some superstitious goat herding
nomads, who believed the earth is flat, and died thousands of years
ago think I'm wrong?
No, you're even wrong about that! You can't get anything right.

You are wrong in your interpretation of what #026 is saying.

But you knew that. You're just trying your best to change the subject
to avoid the humiliation.

It's not going to work, you idiot.

Hint: Find "Socinians" in "The Decrees of God - 026".

If you still don't get it, I'll explain it to you the next time
you stop in for a visit. Okay?

Good boy. Now run on home to Mommy.

<smirk>
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It is therefore no derogation to God’s understanding, that He does not
foreknow all of them, any more than it would be to the goodness of an eye,
that it does not see what as yet does not exist. When free agents perform
acts unforeseen to God, His wisdom, say they, provides Him with a
multitude of resources, by which He overrules the result, and still makes
them concur substantially (not absolutely) with His wise and good plans.
-R. L. Dabney
There you have it god is not omniscient or all powerful, it follows
that his "wisdom" is questionable too.
Oh but you're wrong. You're so wrong.
You who get your marching orders from some superstitious goat herding
nomads, who believed the earth is flat, and died thousands of years
ago think I'm wrong?
No, you're even wrong about that! You can't get anything right.
You are wrong in your interpretation of what #026 is saying.
But you knew that. You're just trying your best to change the subject
to avoid the humiliation.
It's not going to work, you idiot.
Hint: Find "Socinians" in "The Decrees of God - 026".
If you still don't get it, I'll explain it to you the next time
you stop in for a visit. Okay?
Good boy. Now run on home to Mommy.
<smirk>
Who's trying to obfuscate the thread? The author of your quote is
saying in so many words that god is not all powerful or omniscient. I
just pointed that out since you seem too inbred to get it.
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2017-09-12 16:13:19 UTC
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It is therefore no derogation to God’s understanding, that He does not
foreknow all of them, any more than it would be to the goodness of an eye,
that it does not see what as yet does not exist. When free agents perform
acts unforeseen to God, His wisdom, say they, provides Him with a
multitude of resources, by which He overrules the result, and still makes
them concur substantially (not absolutely) with His wise and good plans.
-R. L. Dabney
There you have it god is not omniscient or all powerful, it follows
that his "wisdom" is questionable too.
Oh but you're wrong. You're so wrong.
You who get your marching orders from some superstitious goat herding
nomads, who believed the earth is flat, and died thousands of years
ago think I'm wrong?
No, you're even wrong about that! You can't get anything right.
You are wrong in your interpretation of what #026 is saying.
But you knew that. You're just trying your best to change the subject
to avoid the humiliation.
It's not going to work, you idiot.
Hint: Find "Socinians" in "The Decrees of God - 026".
If you still don't get it, I'll explain it to you the next time
you stop in for a visit. Okay?
Good boy. Now run on home to Mommy.
<smirk>
Who's trying to obfuscate the thread? The author of your quote is
saying in so many words that god is not all powerful or omniscient. I
Nope. That's your misinterpretation.

Since I see you trying to get, but failing miserably, I'll give you
another hint.

Hint #2: "The Decrees of God - 027" is a continuation of "The Decrees
of God - 026", and should be read together as one post.

Got it? Good boy.

Now it's up to you to figure out where you're wrong, to keep me from
humiliating you any further.

Unless you enjoy being humiliated.....

<smirk>
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2017-09-12 20:53:58 UTC
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It is therefore no derogation to God’s understanding, that He does not
foreknow all of them, any more than it would be to the goodness of an eye,
that it does not see what as yet does not exist. When free agents perform
acts unforeseen to God, His wisdom, say they, provides Him with a
multitude of resources, by which He overrules the result, and still makes
them concur substantially (not absolutely) with His wise and good plans.
-R. L. Dabney
There you have it god is not omniscient or all powerful, it follows
that his "wisdom" is questionable too.
Oh but you're wrong. You're so wrong.
You who get your marching orders from some superstitious goat herding
nomads, who believed the earth is flat, and died thousands of years
ago think I'm wrong?
No, you're even wrong about that! You can't get anything right.
You are wrong in your interpretation of what #026 is saying.
But you knew that. You're just trying your best to change the subject
to avoid the humiliation.
It's not going to work, you idiot.
Hint: Find "Socinians" in "The Decrees of God - 026".
If you still don't get it, I'll explain it to you the next time
you stop in for a visit. Okay?
Good boy. Now run on home to Mommy.
<smirk>
Who's trying to obfuscate the thread? The author of your quote is
saying in so many words that god is not all powerful or omniscient. I
Nope. That's your misinterpretation.
Since I see you trying to get, but failing miserably, I'll give you
another hint.
Hint #2: "The Decrees of God - 027" is a continuation of "The Decrees
of God - 026", and should be read together as one post.
Got it? Good boy.
Now it's up to you to figure out where you're wrong, to keep me from
humiliating you any further.
Unless you enjoy being humiliated.....
<smirk>
See how Bobert tries to alienate people. He obviously posts his crap simply to
upset people, not to convert them. He's just a troll, nothing more.
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2017-09-12 21:07:36 UTC
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It is therefore no derogation to God’s understanding, that He does not
foreknow all of them, any more than it would be to the goodness of an eye,
that it does not see what as yet does not exist. When free agents perform
acts unforeseen to God, His wisdom, say they, provides Him with a
multitude of resources, by which He overrules the result, and still makes
them concur substantially (not absolutely) with His wise and good plans.
-R. L. Dabney
There you have it god is not omniscient or all powerful, it follows
that his "wisdom" is questionable too.
Oh but you're wrong. You're so wrong.
You who get your marching orders from some superstitious goat herding
nomads, who believed the earth is flat, and died thousands of years
ago think I'm wrong?
No, you're even wrong about that! You can't get anything right.
You are wrong in your interpretation of what #026 is saying.
But you knew that. You're just trying your best to change the subject
to avoid the humiliation.
It's not going to work, you idiot.
Hint: Find "Socinians" in "The Decrees of God - 026".
If you still don't get it, I'll explain it to you the next time
you stop in for a visit. Okay?
Good boy. Now run on home to Mommy.
<smirk>
Who's trying to obfuscate the thread? The author of your quote is
saying in so many words that god is not all powerful or omniscient. I
Nope. That's your misinterpretation.
Since I see you trying to get, but failing miserably, I'll give you
another hint.
Hint #2: "The Decrees of God - 027" is a continuation of "The Decrees
of God - 026", and should be read together as one post.
Got it? Good boy.
Now it's up to you to figure out where you're wrong, to keep me from
humiliating you any further.
Unless you enjoy being humiliated.....
<smirk>
You aren't humiliating anyone but yourself, Bobert. You're simply showing everyone what a nasty troll you are. Knowing this, we can laugh at your
obvious attempts to gain attention. Your life outside the Internet must
be pathetic, if this is the only way you think you can gain control over people. After all your years of trolling, you get no respect. And, you
don't care, as long as someone, anyone feeds you some of the attention you
so desperately need. How sad for you. You're probably having an orgasm
reading this. What a masochistic shlub you are.
John Locke
2017-09-12 16:25:29 UTC
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It is therefore no derogation to God’s understanding, that He does not
foreknow all of them, any more than it would be to the goodness of an eye,
that it does not see what as yet does not exist. When free agents perform
acts unforeseen to God, His wisdom, say they, provides Him with a
multitude of resources, by which He overrules the result, and still makes
them concur substantially (not absolutely) with His wise and good plans.
-R. L. Dabney
There you have it god is not omniscient or all powerful, it follows
that his "wisdom" is questionable too.
Oh but you're wrong. You're so wrong.
You who get your marching orders from some superstitious goat herding
nomads, who believed the earth is flat, and died thousands of years
ago think I'm wrong?
No, you're even wrong about that! You can't get anything right.
You are wrong in your interpretation of what #026 is saying.
But you knew that. You're just trying your best to change the subject
to avoid the humiliation.
It's not going to work, you idiot.
Hint: Find "Socinians" in "The Decrees of God - 026".
If you still don't get it, I'll explain it to you the next time
you stop in for a visit. Okay?
Good boy. Now run on home to Mommy.
<smirk>
Who's trying to obfuscate the thread? The author of your quote is
saying in so many words that god is not all powerful or omniscient. I
just pointed that out since you seem too inbred to get it.
...and you are indeed correct. That's exactly what he said. It's a
huge contradiction but of course Boob will spin it off in order to try
and cover up the glaring flaw. But it's futile.
duke
2017-09-12 19:31:02 UTC
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It is therefore no derogation to God’s understanding, that He does not
foreknow all of them, any more than it would be to the goodness of an eye,
that it does not see what as yet does not exist. When free agents perform
acts unforeseen to God, His wisdom, say they, provides Him with a
multitude of resources, by which He overrules the result, and still makes
them concur substantially (not absolutely) with His wise and good plans.
-R. L. Dabney
There you have it god is not omniscient or all powerful, it follows
that his "wisdom" is questionable too.
Oh but you're wrong. You're so wrong.
You who get your marching orders from some superstitious goat herding
nomads, who believed the earth is flat, and died thousands of years
ago think I'm wrong?
No, you're even wrong about that! You can't get anything right.
You are wrong in your interpretation of what #026 is saying.
I heard that 026 was pure garbage.

the dukester, American-American


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and a good cigar.

G.K. Chesterton
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2017-09-12 20:42:34 UTC
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It is therefore no derogation to God’s understanding, that He does not
foreknow all of them, any more than it would be to the goodness of an eye,
that it does not see what as yet does not exist. When free agents perform
acts unforeseen to God, His wisdom, say they, provides Him with a
multitude of resources, by which He overrules the result, and still makes
them concur substantially (not absolutely) with His wise and good plans.
-R. L. Dabney
There you have it god is not omniscient or all powerful, it follows
that his "wisdom" is questionable too.
Oh but you're wrong. You're so wrong.
Go back and read yesterday's "The Decrees of God - 026".
You might have to have someone else read it to you, and
then explain what it means, but hopefully you'll see where
you're so wrong.
You're welcome. You idiot.
<smirk>
You really don't want people to read the crap you insist on posting. You
really want us to go to your hell. That's obvious. Then you believe you
can say, "I told you so." What a scabrous piece of dog excrement you are.
No surprise, considering that the founder of your 'religion' enjoyed
burning people alive.
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It is therefore no derogation to God’s understanding, that He does not
foreknow all of them, any more than it would be to the goodness of an eye,
that it does not see what as yet does not exist. When free agents perform
acts unforeseen to God, His wisdom, say they, provides Him with a
multitude of resources, by which He overrules the result, and still makes
them concur substantially (not absolutely) with His wise and good plans.
-R. L. Dabney
There you have it god is not omniscient or all powerful, it follows
that his "wisdom" is questionable too.
Oh but you're wrong. You're so wrong.
Go back and read yesterday's "The Decrees of God - 026".
You might have to have someone else read it to you, and
then explain what it means, but hopefully you'll see where
you're so wrong.
You're welcome. You idiot.
<smirk>
You really don't want people to read the crap you insist on posting. You
really want us to go to your hell. That's obvious. Then you believe you
can say, "I told you so." What a scabrous piece of dog excrement you are.
No surprise, considering that the founder of your 'religion' enjoyed
burning people alive.
Bob and Bob have done a great job of ensuring that the tulips will have a hard
time surviving.

the dukester, American-American


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The Catholic Church is like a thick steak, a glass of red wine
and a good cigar.

G.K. Chesterton
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John Ritson
2017-09-12 14:24:56 UTC
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It is therefore no derogation to God’s understanding, that He does not
foreknow all of them, any more than it would be to the goodness of an eye,
that it does not see what as yet does not exist. When free agents perform
acts unforeseen to God, His wisdom, say they, provides Him with a
multitude of resources, by which He overrules the result, and still makes
them concur substantially (not absolutely) with His wise and good plans.
-R. L. Dabney
Robert Duncan/Jeremy Brown/Calvin Ramsay/Matthias Sereno/Michael
Lankford/Kelli Gibson/Stu D. Baker/Edsel D. Soto/Kevin Madison/Molly
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I was advised by a member of my Home-Church, who follows our
deliberation closely, to "double-check" to make sure that Dr. Robert L.
Dabney was indeed not the author of the paragraphs that I had
attributed
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to Dr. Wayland. Upon close scrutiny, and much to my dismay, it seems
that I had mistaken a very small ink splotch (or a leg from a squashed
gnat) for a quotation mark, making that paragraph a continuation of a
quote from Dr. Wayland.
So, I was, and still am, wrong.
You were, and still are, right.
I am truly sorry for my mistake.
The ownership of a human being by another human being is a crime.
Slavery in America is a blemish that will not heal any time soon.
And Robert L. Dabney is no longer in my Top 10 List of Favorite
Theologians.
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I appreciate you bringing this to my attention, and also thanks to
Jeremy Brown for his well-needed advice.
How soon he forgets.
--
John Ritson

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