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Happiness to Avoid Suffering
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Jahnu
2017-05-08 03:07:54 UTC
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In the modern Consumer civilization people are indoctrinated into
believing that sense-enjoyment will create happiness for them. Indeed,
sense-enjoyment is the only type of happiness the population is
educated in.

Lets analyze what bodily and mental happiness is all about. Sex is
regarded by most people to be the highest joy available in the world.
But sex-lust and sex-enjoyment is merely an attempt to escape the
suffering of being without sex. It's misery to live in forced
celibacy. Anyone who has reached puberty can testify to that. Or
eating. To eat is considered to be one of life's major enjoyments. But
actually, to eat is just an attempt to escape the suffering of hunger.
People of the Western culture don't know what it means to suffer from
famine, but it is a great suffering experienced by many people in the
world.

And that's how it is with most of the enjoyment we seek and
experience. Eating, sleeping, mating, and defending are the four
activities that are shared by all living entities. It is four urges
humans have in common with animals, birds, and all other living
entities on the planet. In the modern world it has become the foremost
goal to fulfill and satisfy these four urges. They have been made the
standard of happiness and enjoyment in life. What do we do together
with our loved ones, with our family and friends? We eat, sleep, mate,
and defend. The entire civilization revolves around these four
activities. That's an animal civilization.

A proper human civilization is running on a whole other set of
principles. As a human one is expected to have a higher standard of
life than animals. One is expected to have a higher goal than the mere
chasing after basic, animal urges. In the modern global culture entire
industries have been created to fulfill these four basic needs.
Millions of tons of iron are extracted from the earth to make pots,
knives and forks. Whole forests are cut down to make serviettes and
napkins. Add to that the industrial setup to manufacture cups and
glasses etc. A gigantic enterprise - all of it, just to eat.

Then they have more sense in India. In fact, Indians are more
civilized. They eat with the fingers from a banana-leaf plate. In the
west it is scoffed at as primitive and back-wards, but it shows higher
intelligence. No use for tons of iron to make knives and forks. No
dish-washing afterwards. You just throw your banana-leaf on the
compost heap and wash your hands. How easy is that?

The fact is that the western civilization is over-consuming nature's
resources. It is a greedy, exploitative civilization, that ruins
nature and puts her inhabitants through untold suffering.

Anyway, the happiness that can be obtained by surrendering to
Krishna's enjoyment is so far superior to the happiness that one can
squeeze out of matter, that sex with the most beautiful women becomes
like broken glass in comparison.

And who or what is to be blamed for the fact that the modern world
runs on animal principles? Atheism. Atheism reduces the human being to
nothing more than an animal. In reality, the human life-form is a
unique opportunity for the soul to realize his real, eternal identity.
The soul cannot realize itself in any other life-form. In other forms
of life, the soul is merely busy with eating, sleeping, mating, and
defending. The human form of life is a waste of time for the soul if
it is not used to learn about one's real self and one's relation to
Krishna.

The soul can relate to Krishna as his master, his father, his son, his
lover, or he can have a neutral relationship with Him. The point
being, that Krishna is the only center. He is the beloved of the soul.
When we love Krishna, who is the root of everything, we automatically
love all His parts and parcels - all other living entities. It's like
watering a tree. One does not benefit the tree by pouring water on its
every leaf and branch. Water is poured on the root. Then the whole
tree is nourished. In the same way all living entities are benefited
and nourished, when one loves and serves Krishna - the root of all
existence.

Krishna says:

My dear Arjuna, because you are never envious of Me, I shall impart to
you this most confidential knowledge and realization, knowing which
you shall be relieved of the miseries of material existence. (Bg. 9.1)

This knowledge is the king of education, the most secret of all
secrets. It is the purest knowledge, and because it gives direct
perception of the self by realization, it is the perfection of
religion. It is everlasting, and it is joyfully performed. (Bg. 9.2)




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Jeanne Douglas
2017-05-08 03:58:01 UTC
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In the modern Consumer civilization people are indoctrinated into
believing that sense-enjoyment will create happiness for them. Indeed,
sense-enjoyment is the only type of happiness the population is
educated in.
Lets analyze what bodily and mental happiness is all about. Sex is
regarded by most people to be the highest joy available in the world.
But sex-lust and sex-enjoyment is merely an attempt to escape the
suffering of being without sex.
Seriously??????
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hypatiab7
2017-05-09 09:33:57 UTC
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In the modern Consumer civilization people are indoctrinated into
believing that sense-enjoyment will create happiness for them. Indeed,
sense-enjoyment is the only type of happiness the population is
educated in.
Lets analyze what bodily and mental happiness is all about. Sex is
regarded by most people to be the highest joy available in the world.
But sex-lust and sex-enjoyment is merely an attempt to escape the
suffering of being without sex.
Seriously??????
No one takes Jesper seriously.
Mike_Duffy
2017-05-09 16:29:40 UTC
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No one takes Jesper seriously.
I do. Every time I read one of his vegetarian rants, I rush to the
supermarket to look for a half-price rib roast with today's "Best Before"
date and fire up my BBQ because I don't want my brain to suffer his sort of
hemoglobin deficiency induced dementia caused by low brain oxygen levels.

If he mentions Coca-Cola in his rant, I am reminded that the phosphoric
acid content makes it an excellent tenderizing sauce base.
hypatiab7
2017-05-24 10:44:51 UTC
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No one takes Jesper seriously.
I do. Every time I read one of his vegetarian rants, I rush to the
supermarket to look for a half-price rib roast with today's "Best Before"
date and fire up my BBQ because I don't want my brain to suffer his sort of
hemoglobin deficiency induced dementia caused by low brain oxygen levels.
If he mentions Coca-Cola in his rant, I am reminded that the phosphoric
acid content makes it an excellent tenderizing sauce base.
That's understandable. I treated myself to a steak last night with steak seasoning. Yum. I never put sauce on a steak, since I want to taste the meat.
Jeanne Douglas
2017-06-05 21:30:03 UTC
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No one takes Jesper seriously.
I do. Every time I read one of his vegetarian rants, I rush to the
supermarket to look for a half-price rib roast with today's "Best Before"
date and fire up my BBQ because I don't want my brain to suffer his sort of
hemoglobin deficiency induced dementia caused by low brain oxygen levels.
If he mentions Coca-Cola in his rant, I am reminded that the phosphoric
acid content makes it an excellent tenderizing sauce base.
That's understandable. I treated myself to a steak last night with steak seasoning. Yum. I never put sauce on a steak, since I want to taste the meat.
And then there's our President who is so germphobic he destroys brilliant steaks by cooking them to a overly well-done monstrosity that he slathers in ketchup.


Not to mention that he eats pizza with a knife and fork. GACK!
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Peter Pan
2017-05-08 04:05:49 UTC
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The fact is that the western civilization is over-consuming nature's
resources. It is a greedy, exploitative civilization, that ruins
nature and puts her inhabitants through untold suffering.
Wrong. Third-world poverty and greed is destroying the
planet, more than the western world.

These people breed like flies solely so someone will
support of them in old age. They cut down forests for
firewood and farmland, overfish the seas, dump smoke and
particulates into the atmosphere, farm by slash-n-burn
and other inefficient methods, dump raw sewage & garbage
in any convenient drainage, dump plastic, chemicals &
crap into the sea, kill every bird animal & insect they
can find, start religious & tribal wars, steal whatever
isn't guarded, and betray a consummately selfish attitude
about everything they do -- even driving, FFS.

Third worlders wreck their own countries, then they
demand that "rich" western countries take them in as
refugees and economic immigrants.

India is a great example. China is another.
These are the 2 biggest cesspools on the planet.

Clean up your own backyard first, o holy man.
Jahnu
2017-05-09 05:55:39 UTC
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Wrong. Third-world poverty and greed is destroying the
planet, more than the western world.
blah blah blah
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.

...good, little Mickey Mouse clone :)

Just as physical objects are cleansed with water, you cleanse psychic
or mental objects with sound. The highest cleansing power is the sound
of God's name.

That which covers us and keeps us from realizing our real selves, is
our mind. The mind consists of thoughts, feelings, willpower,
discrimination (intelligence) and false ego. Those are like screens
that cover the pure consciousness of the self.

We are all eternal souls - minute particles of Krishna's
consciousness. Krishna's consciousness consists of eternity,
knowledge, and bliss, so we are minute particles of eternity,
knowledge and bliss, But these minute particles of pure consciousness
are at the moment covered by physical and mental layers in the form of
the body and mind.


All souls, regardless of what kind of body they inhabit - plants,
insects, fish, reptiles, birds, animals, or humans - are minute
particles of eternity, knowledge, and bliss. That's why all living
entities always gravitate towards these three conditions - eternity,
knowledge, and bliss. All living entities are pleasure seeking, they
try to develop knowledge, and they don't want to die, they possess the
survival instinct.


The sound of Krishna's name will purify the filter of the mind, so
that we can connect to our real selves. That means that by chanting
Krishna's name we will experience higher forms of knowledge and bliss.
That is a testable prediction that can be investigated scientifically.

This is not some belief. If it is a scientific process as asserted by
Krishna in the Bhagavad Gita, it will work whatever is our belief.


It doesn't matter whether you are an Atheist, Buddhist, Hindu,
Christian, Mohammedan, Republican or whatever, if you chant the Hare
Krishna mantra on a regular basis, you will connect to your real self
beyond your thoughts, feelings and false ego, and when you contact
your real self, it will be experienced as knowledge and bliss.


The wonderful thing about this religion, the Vaishnava religion, is
that you do not have to become a Hare Krishna and shave your head,
dress in sheets, and go out on the streets dancing and singing. You
can sit right in your own living room and test it.

Just try to chant the following mantra -


hare krsna hare krsna krsna krsna hare hare
hare rama hare rama rama rama hare hare


...say, 10 minutes a day for a week and see where it takes you.


That's BRAINWASHING, I hear someone yell :)


That's right. Our mind is unclean. Our mind has been polluted by
immpure impressions accumulated throughout so many lives. It needs to
be washed. And you wash the mind by the sound of God's name.


hare krsna hare krsna krsna krsna hare hare
hare rama hare rama rama rama hare hare

The above mantra consisting of 16 words and 32 syllables, is the only
means by which to protect against the evil influence of this age of
Kali. By researching all the Vedas, one will find no more sublime
process of religion than to recite the Hare Krishna mantra."

(Kali-santarana Upanishad)




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raven1
2017-05-08 13:10:48 UTC
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In the modern Consumer civilization people are indoctrinated into
Were you born without a sense of irony, Jesper, or did ISKCON remove
it when they indoctrinated you?
Jahnu
2017-05-10 00:10:40 UTC
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The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make
more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its
existence.

-- Nikola Tesla


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raven1
2017-05-10 02:43:46 UTC
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The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make
more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its
existence.
-- Nikola Tesla
Science can't study non-physical phenomena by definition, Jesper. Bear
in mind that Tesla was as crazy as a shithouse rat.
Smiler
2017-05-11 00:30:53 UTC
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The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make
more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its
existence.
-- Nikola Tesla
Science can't study non-physical phenomena by definition, Jesper. Bear
in mind that Tesla was as crazy as a shithouse rat.
But in his argument with Edison over AC vs DC, Tesla was right and Edison
was wrong.
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All gods are tailored to order. They're made to
exactly fit the prejudices of their believers.
raven1
2017-05-11 00:40:00 UTC
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The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make
more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its
existence.
-- Nikola Tesla
Science can't study non-physical phenomena by definition, Jesper. Bear
in mind that Tesla was as crazy as a shithouse rat.
But in his argument with Edison over AC vs DC, Tesla was right and Edison
was wrong.
That is correct. And Tesla was probably the greatest engineer who ever
lived, when it comes down to it. That said, he was off with the
fairies more often than not.
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2017-05-11 02:06:05 UTC
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The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make
more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its
existence.
-- Nikola Tesla
Science can't study non-physical phenomena by definition, Jesper. Bear
in mind that Tesla was as crazy as a shithouse rat.
But in his argument with Edison over AC vs DC, Tesla was right and
Edison was wrong.
That is correct. And Tesla was probably the greatest engineer who ever
lived, when it comes down to it. That said, he was off with the fairies
more often than not.
I won't argue that, as I know nothing about his mental state.
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The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make
more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its
existence.
-- Nikola Tesla
Science can't study non-physical phenomena by definition, Jesper. Bear
in mind that Tesla was as crazy as a shithouse rat.
But in his argument with Edison over AC vs DC, Tesla was right and
Edison was wrong.
That is correct. And Tesla was probably the greatest engineer who ever
lived, when it comes down to it. That said, he was off with the fairies
more often than not.
I won't argue that, as I know nothing about his mental state.
No, he was a mess. There was definitely some OCD, but I don't have names for any other issues. But he also had an eidetic memory and spoke, like, 8 languages.
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Jahnu
2017-05-11 10:21:59 UTC
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Science can't study non-physical phenomena by definition, Jesper. Bear
in mind that Tesla was as crazy as a shithouse rat.
Because an uneducated, ignorant, pimply ass red-neck piece of shit
like you says so? hahaha :)

You are just envious of people like Tesla. Tesla is not only famous in
the world for his brilliant intelligence, he is also infinitely more
important to the world than you, Birdbrain - a complete nobody loser
who spends his time on usenet bitching and moaning about God.

Professor Werner Gitt, who works in the field of information science
writes:

“There is no known natural law through which matter can give rise to
information, neither is there any physical process or material
phenomenon known that can do this.”
{Werner Gitt, In the Beginning Was Information, 1997, p. 79}

This statement, if true, destroys the whole basis of the idea that no
intelligent mind was involved in the formation of the first life. Is
his statement true? All languages, alphabets, and codes that we know
of, as well as the information spoken or written in them, originated
in minds. The blind faith of the atheist that the first life was an
exception is contrary to all known evidence.


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Jeanne Douglas
2017-05-11 13:35:11 UTC
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Science can't study non-physical phenomena by definition, Jesper. Bear
in mind that Tesla was as crazy as a shithouse rat.
Because an uneducated, ignorant, pimply ass red-neck piece of shit
like you says so? hahaha :)
You are just envious of people like Tesla. Tesla is not only famous in
the world for his brilliant intelligence, he is also infinitely more
important to the world than you,
Nobody would argue against those facts about Tesla; he was brilliant and may finally getting the recognition he deserves.

But, at the same time, he was "as crazy as a shithouse rat". (I'm not really in love with that metaphor, but it is valid, just icky.)


Get over yourself, Jesper. All you have achieved here is to convince an international group of people that you're uneducated, incredibly stupid, and totally bugfuck crazy (too bad that crazy didn't come with brains like Tesla').


A confession: I was aware of Tesla, had a decent idea of some of his accomplishments, but not much more. But then came this band who called themselves Tesla (great band, btw). And their album and song titles often derived from Tesla's work, as did their covers. If you check them out at your favorite music provider, look at the titles and you'll see. Ever since then, I've been a major Nikola Tesla fan (and a certain amount less respect for TAE)..
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2017-05-11 14:03:29 UTC
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Science can't study non-physical phenomena by definition, Jesper. Bear
in mind that Tesla was as crazy as a shithouse rat.
Because an uneducated, ignorant, pimply ass red-neck piece of shit
like you says so? hahaha :)
You are just envious of people like Tesla. Tesla is not only famous in
the world for his brilliant intelligence, he is also infinitely more
important to the world than you,
Nobody would argue against those facts about Tesla; he was brilliant and may finally getting the recognition he deserves.
But, at the same time, he was "as crazy as a shithouse rat". (I'm not really in love with that metaphor, but it is valid, just icky.)
Get over yourself, Jesper. All you have achieved here is to convince an international group of people that you're uneducated, incredibly stupid, and totally bugfuck crazy (too bad that crazy didn't come with brains like Tesla').
A confession: I was aware of Tesla, had a decent idea of some of his accomplishments, but not much more. But then came this band who called themselves Tesla (great band, btw). And their album and song titles often derived from Tesla's work, as did their covers. If you check them out at your favorite music provider, look at the titles and you'll see. Ever since then, I've been a major Nikola Tesla fan (and a certain amount less respect for TAE)..
Ever check out the short-lived TV series from the late UPN network,
"Legend?" John DeLancie (Star Trek:TNG's Q) played a thinly disguised
Tesla opposite Richard Dean Anderson's dime novel author. Hilarious
adventure of the "Advs of Brisco County Jr" kind.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legend_(TV_series)

There was also OMD's song, "Tesla Girls."



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Jeanne Douglas
2017-05-12 07:07:25 UTC
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Science can't study non-physical phenomena by definition, Jesper. Bear
in mind that Tesla was as crazy as a shithouse rat.
=20
Because an uneducated, ignorant, pimply ass red-neck piece of shit
like you says so? hahaha :)
=20
You are just envious of people like Tesla. Tesla is not only famous in
the world for his brilliant intelligence, he is also infinitely more
important to the world than you,=20
=20
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Nobody would argue against those facts about Tesla; he was brilliant and =
may finally getting the recognition he deserves.
=20
But, at the same time, he was "as crazy as a shithouse rat". (I'm not rea=
lly in love with that metaphor, but it is valid, just icky.) =20
=20
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Get over yourself, Jesper. All you have achieved here is to convince an i=
nternational group of people that you're uneducated, incredibly stupid, and=
totally bugfuck crazy (too bad that crazy didn't come with brains like Tes=
la').
=20
=20
A confession: I was aware of Tesla, had a decent idea of some of his acco=
mplishments, but not much more. But then came this band who called themselv=
es Tesla (great band, btw). And their album and song titles often derived f=
rom Tesla's work, as did their covers. If you check them out at your favori=
te music provider, look at the titles and you'll see. Ever since then, I've=
been a major Nikola Tesla fan (and a certain amount less respect for TAE).=
.
=20
Ever check out the short-lived TV series from the late UPN network,
"Legend?" John DeLancie (Star Trek:TNG's Q) played a thinly disguised
Tesla opposite Richard Dean Anderson's dime novel author. Hilarious
adventure of the "Advs of Brisco County Jr" kind.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legend_(TV_series)
There was also OMD's song, "Tesla Girls."

Oh, I loved Brisco County! I hadn't heard of "Legend", but I see the DVD is available from amazon for $8.99. It's not on any of my streaming services.
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raven1
2017-05-11 14:51:46 UTC
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Science can't study non-physical phenomena by definition, Jesper. Bear
in mind that Tesla was as crazy as a shithouse rat.
Because an uneducated, ignorant, pimply ass red-neck piece of shit
like you says so?
No, because he really was nuts, which five minutes on Google would
have told you. What the hell is wrong with you that you never bother
to do *any* research, dimwit?.
Jahnu
2017-05-11 21:51:36 UTC
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No, because he really was nuts, which five minutes on Google
blah blah
Because a dumb red-neck piece of shit like you, or some blithering
retard on Google say so?

hahaha :)

Do I have to remind you that Tesla is world famous for his brilliant
intelligence where as you are known only on usenet as an ignorant,
uneducated loser? And you think it means anything what you have to say
about Tesla?

hahaha :) Get over yourself, Birdbrain. Do you now understand how
atheism haas damaged your mind?

"The gift of mental power comes from God, Divine Being, and if we
concetrate our minds on that truth, we become in tune with this great
power." - Nikola Tesla



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raven1
2017-05-12 12:51:21 UTC
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No, because he really was nuts, which five minutes on Google
blah blah
Because a dumb red-neck piece of shit like you, or some blithering
retard on Google say so?
Jesper, just fucking look it up already. Tesla was a brilliant
engineer, but he was also as crazy as a three-wheeled orange. Again,
why do you never bother to research any topic before you open your
ignorant piehole about it?
ernobe
2017-05-12 17:11:09 UTC
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No, because he really was nuts, which five minutes on Google
blah blah
Because a dumb red-neck piece of shit like you, or some blithering
retard on Google say so?
hahaha :)
Do I have to remind you that Tesla is world famous for his brilliant
intelligence where as you are known only on usenet as an ignorant,
uneducated loser? And you think it means anything what you have to say
about Tesla?
hahaha :) Get over yourself, Birdbrain. Do you now understand how
atheism haas damaged your mind?
"The gift of mental power comes from God, Divine Being, and if we
concetrate our minds on that truth, we become in tune with this great
power." - Nikola Tesla
So is Tesla the reincarnation of Krishna?

hahaha :) How is it that we are supposed to "get over ourselves" by
reincarnating, anyways?
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Jahnu
2017-05-13 00:27:36 UTC
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So is Tesla the reincarnation of Krishna?
Nope.

Krishna says:

Now hear, O son of Prtha, how by practicing yoga in full consciousness
of Me, with mind attached to Me, you can know Me in full, free from
doubt.

I shall now declare unto you in full this knowledge, both phenomenal
and numinous. This being known, nothing further shall remain for you
to know.

Out of many thousands among men, one may endeavor for perfection, and
of those who have achieved perfection, hardly one knows Me in truth.

Earth, water, fire, air, ether, mind, intelligence and false ego --
all together these eight constitute My separated material energies.

Besides these, O mighty-armed Arjuna, there is another, superior
energy of Mine, which comprises the living entities who are exploiting
the resources of this material, inferior nature.

All created beings have their source in these two natures. Of all that
is material and all that is spiritual in this world, know for certain
that I am both the origin and the dissolution.

O conqueror of wealth, there is no truth superior to Me. Everything
rests upon Me, as pearls are strung on a thread.


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2017-05-13 02:19:29 UTC
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So is Tesla the reincarnation of Krishna?
Nope.
Krishna says: Oh, look, O mighty-armed Arjuna! My idiot devotee Jesper is quoting
scripture at atheists again! What a useless waste of oxygen he is!
Fixed it for you as always, dumbass.
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2017-05-14 21:23:46 UTC
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"The absence of fossil evidence for intermediary stages between major
transitions in organic design, indeed our inability, even in our
imagination, to construct functional intermediates in many cases, has
been a persistent and nagging problem for gradualistic accounts of
evolution." --Late American paleontologist Stephen Jay Gould


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"The absence of fossil evidence for intermediary stages between major
transitions in organic design, indeed our inability, even in our
imagination, to construct functional intermediates in many cases, has
been a persistent and nagging problem for gradualistic accounts of
evolution." --Late American paleontologist Stephen Jay Gould
*Yawn*. And what model did Gould and Niles Eldrege propose that
explained this in an evolutionary framework? Hint: P_____ E_______ .
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"New species usually appear in the fossil record suddenly, not
connected with their ancestors by a series of intermediates."
--Eminent evolutionary biologist Ernst Mayr


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"New species usually appear in the fossil record suddenly, not
connected with their ancestors by a series of intermediates."
--Eminent evolutionary biologist Ernst Mayr
Again, *Yawn*. And what model did Stephen Jay Gould and Niles Eldregde
propose that explained this in an evolutionary framework? Hint: P_____
E_______ . You really are a hopeless idiot.
Peter Pan
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"New species usually appear in the fossil record suddenly, not
connected with their ancestors by a series of intermediates."
--Eminent evolutionary biologist Ernst Mayr
Again, *Yawn*. And what model did Stephen Jay Gould and Niles Eldregde
propose that explained this in an evolutionary framework? Hint: P_____
E_______ . You really are a hopeless idiot.
I thought it was only a few Protestants and Muslims that
disbelieved in evolution. It's news that there are
Hindus that also fall for the creationist myth.

What's next?... creationist atheists?
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"New species usually appear in the fossil record suddenly, not
connected with their ancestors by a series of intermediates."
--Eminent evolutionary biologist Ernst Mayr
Again, *Yawn*. And what model did Stephen Jay Gould and Niles Eldregde
propose that explained this in an evolutionary framework? Hint: P_____
E_______ . You really are a hopeless idiot.
I thought it was only a few Protestants and Muslims that
disbelieved in evolution. It's news that there are
Hindus that also fall for the creationist myth.
Jesper reflexively believes literally *anything* as long as it's
outside the mainstream. He also thinks 9/11 was an inside job, and
that the Apollo Moon landings were faked. Oh, and he thinks the
Ganges, the world's most polluted river, is magically self-purifying
and safe. Basically, if there's bullshit, Jesper believes it.
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What's next?... creationist atheists?
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http://youtu.be/SF3KqGpxXvo - reincarnation banned
You know, Jesper, you can always admit that you don't know the answer,
and I'll be happy to tell you. That's what I'm here for.
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You know, Jesper, you can always admit that you don't know the answer,
and I'll be happy to tell you. That's what I'm here for.
You? hahaha :) You are here to be my bitch, Birdbrain. You are here to
show everyone how stupid and ignorant and idiotic atheism makes you,
get it? Of course, you are also here to get slapped down by me every
time you open your meat-hole.

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You know, Jesper, you can always admit that you don't know the answer,
and I'll be happy to tell you. That's what I'm here for.
You? hahaha :) You are here to be my bitch, Birdbrain.
How so? By correcting your endless parade of idiotic mistakes, Mister
Planetary Constellations? Shall I remind the audience of a few dozen,
you comically ignorant fool? Go swim in the Ganges and die of
dysentery already, you pathetic waste of oxygen.
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2017-05-19 12:46:02 UTC
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http://youtu.be/FothcJW-Quo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollution_of_the_Ganges
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2017-05-20 04:30:15 UTC
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http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/biocentrism/201112/does-the-soul-exist-evidence-says-yes


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2017-05-20 17:34:55 UTC
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http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/biocentrism/201112/does-the-soul-exist-evidence-says-yes
A good illustration of why experts in one field (in this case,
psychology) shouldn't try to comment on others in which they haven't a
clue (in this case quantum mechanics). Thanks for the valuable lesson,
dumbass!
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http://vedicilluminations.com


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bitch moan whine
http://vedicilluminations.com
*Yawn*. Posting a website from your cult is not going to convince
anyone of anything, dumbass, unless they're as gullible and ignorant
as you.
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http://youtu.be/XMzd6DvTg3E
Oh, look! Brave Sir Jesper is bravely running away again, after he
just denied doing that in the "What is the Truth of Life?" thread!
ROTFLMFAO!
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http://youtu.be/AnJz5Hhk4sU
And Jesper runs away AGAIN! LOL!
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2017-05-23 23:58:31 UTC
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And Jesper runs away AGAIN! LOL!
Dream on, dumbass.





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And Jesper runs away AGAIN! LOL!
Dream on, dumbass.
I don't have to, Jesper, you keep making a public display of it.
Idiot!
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2017-05-25 01:26:36 UTC
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http://youtu.be/44OoZ6GfmK0 - iskcon 50 years
Yep, CONning people for 50 years now.
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2017-05-26 00:35:17 UTC
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http://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/money-and-power/news/a4350/alfred-ford-multi-million-dollar-monument-india/


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http://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/money-and-power/news/a4350/alfred-ford-multi-million-dollar-monument-india/
Jesper, that some dumbass millionaire got suckered by your cult is not
a selling point to anyone who isn't already a member of your cult.
Quite the opposite, actually. It confirms my observation that the
important part of ISKCON is the CON.
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http://www.kirtancentral.com/loveworthy/george-harrison-hare-krishna


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http://www.kirtancentral.com/loveworthy/george-harrison-hare-krishna
Thanks, but I prefer his atheist bandmate John Lennon, Jesper.
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2017-05-27 21:58:29 UTC
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Thanks, but I prefer his atheist bandmate John Lennon, Jesper.
Who gives a shit what you prefer, Birdbrain?


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Thanks, but I prefer his atheist bandmate John Lennon, Jesper.
Who gives a shit what you prefer, Birdbrain?
You do, you obsessive-compulsive lunatic. Otherwise you'd just fuck
off and stop posting here, where you're as welcome as tuberculosis.
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Thanks, but I prefer his atheist bandmate John Lennon, Jesper.
Who gives a shit what you prefer, Birdbrain?
You do, you obsessive-compulsive lunatic. Otherwise you'd just fuck
off and stop posting here, where you're as welcome as tuberculosis.
Given the state of the Ganges, he'd probably bring that, too.
--
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
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You do, you obsessive-compulsive lunatic. Otherwise you'd just fuck
off and stop posting here, where you're as welcome as tuberculosis.
hahaha :) Listen to this ignorant fool... he actually thinks in his
tiny birdbrain that I'm here because I'm obsessed with him.

Listen, Birdbrain, I'm only here to kick your pimply, atheist ass, ok?
I'm here to smack you down every time you open your meat infested
sewer of a mouth. Get it? And you keep coming back only to be smacked
down again by me... talk about an obsessive-compulsive freak :)

Why would anyone with a brain obsess about an unevolved, poor loser
like you?

And I've only just begun, Birdbrain. When I'm finished with you,
you'll be reduced to a blithering, dribbling fool, curled up in a
corner.



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You do, you obsessive-compulsive lunatic. Otherwise you'd just fuck
off and stop posting here, where you're as welcome as tuberculosis.
hahaha :) Listen to this ignorant fool... he actually thinks in his
tiny birdbrain that I'm here because I'm obsessed with him.
There's no other explanation for it, Jesper. Your delusions to the
contrary, in your over 20 years here, you have kicked no one's ass,
ever, other than your own. Shall I give another rehash of your endless
idiocy, Mister Planetary Constellations? It's impressive enough to
provide material for several doctoral dissertations in Abnormal
Psychology.
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http://youtu.be/JvjLrohTJ8Y - moon hoax
Wow. I was going to re-post some of your idiocy for everyone, but you
beat me to it! Yes, folks, Jesper thinks the Apollo moon landings were
faked. Why? Because he automatically believes anything, no matter how
ridiculous, as long as it's contrary to the mainstream.
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http://youtu.be/JvjLrohTJ8Y - moon hoax
Wow. I was going to re-post some of your idiocy for everyone, but you
beat me to it! Yes, folks, Jesper thinks the Apollo moon landings were
faked. Why? Because he automatically believes anything, no matter how
ridiculous, as long as it's contrary to the mainstream.
And yet these deviants use computers and phones that are even more
impressive scientifically and technologically than those rockets and
computer systems from the 60's.

They live in their own little hell... What a wasted life...
--
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2017-06-01 00:25:43 UTC
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http://www.viral-next.com/gigantic-human-skeleton-found-in-the-mountains-after-nepal-earthquake/
LOL! Way to prove my point that you'll automatically believe any
bullshit as long as it's outside the mainstream, dumbass.
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http://www.dandavats.com/?p=9667


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2017-06-01 13:09:46 UTC
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http://www.dandavats.com/?p=9667
The President of the US meets with religious figures from all over the
world. What's your point?
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2017-06-02 05:49:38 UTC
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The President of the US meets with religious figures from all over the
world. What's your point?
The point is, Birdbrain, the president of the US never meet leaders
from obscure sects and shake their hands.

So when you said that Hare Krishna is just another obscure sect on
par with the Moonies, you were, as usual, talking out of your pimply
ass.

http://www.naturalnews.com/047168_conspiracy_theorists_sanity_propaganda.html


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2017-06-02 12:54:27 UTC
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The President of the US meets with religious figures from all over the
world. What's your point?
The point is, Birdbrain, the president of the US never meet leaders
from obscure sects and shake their hands.
Jesper, US Presidents spend a good deal of time meeting and greeting
all sorts of people from around the nation and the world. It's not an
endorsement.
Post by Jahnu
So when you said that Hare Krishna is just another obscure
I've never used that word to describe ISKCON. You're a *well-known*
cult on par with the Moonies.
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sect on
par with the Moonies
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2017-06-03 09:47:56 UTC
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http://hinduismnow.org/blog/2016/02/05/hindus-are-the-happiest-among-all-people-atheists-unhappiest-new-study/
ROTFLMFAO! Wow, what a shocking finding for a website called
"hinduismnow.org"!

Seriously, Jesper, how fucking stupid are you?
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2017-06-04 16:10:02 UTC
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http://youtu.be/9J-fK3KHVnA
No, really, Jesper, answer the question: how fucking stupid are you?
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<In response to the question "how fucking stupid are you?", Jesper
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http://news.rediff.com/slide-show/2009/aug/29/slide-show-1-lord-krishna-existed.htm
Wow, that's even stupider than I thought you were! Bravo! Here's a
shining example:

"Not just that, but the fact that archaeology, oral and living
traditions point to the same. And yes, we cannot separate the
Mahabharata war from Krishna. If one is shown to have happened, then
the other must be true as well."

Jesper, if you have to have it explained to you why that's an idiotic
non sequitur, you really have no business posting here. By that
fallacious "reasoning", the Trojan War means it must be "true" that
the goddess Eris rolled a golden apple inscribed "To the Fairest" into
a banquet of the gods on Olympus, and the US Civil War "proves" the
existence of Scarlett O'Hara and Rhett Butler. You really are an
incredible idiot, not to mention being almost unbelievably gullible.
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2017-06-06 10:45:29 UTC
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2017-06-06 13:15:06 UTC
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http://www.ancient-code.com/a-300-million-year-old-screw-researchers-baffled/
Oh, look! It's Crank Week again! Do you really think anyone is going
to be impressed by this drivel, dumbass?
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2017-06-07 12:37:37 UTC
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2017-06-07 13:27:55 UTC
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http://listverse.com/2013/10/21/10-interesting-cases-of-supposed-reincarnation/
Wow, that woo is so powerful I can smell it over the Ganges!
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2017-06-08 05:36:11 UTC
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2017-06-08 10:05:28 UTC
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In article <***@4ax.com>,
Jahnu <***@gmail.com> wrote:

Oh, my, what an interesting black puzzle box. I wonder what will happen if I can
slide it apart? It plays a lovely tune. Now I hear a bell tolling. This is so
exciting!
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'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
Free the Amos Yee one. This post / \
Yeah, too bad about your so-called life. Ha-ha. insults Islam. Mohammed
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Oh, my, what an interesting black puzzle box. I wonder what will happen if I can
slide it apart? It plays a lovely tune. Now I hear a bell tolling. This is so
exciting!
What an odd looking fellow just showed up. 'Angels to some.....'
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Free the Amos Yee one. This post / \
Yeah, too bad about your so-called life. Ha-ha. insults Islam. Mohammed
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https://in.news.yahoo.com/scientifically-validated-now-ganga-water-holy-060417938.html
Risible bullshit. Try these, you gullible twat:

http://www.smh.com.au/national/the-ganges-holy-river-from-hell-20140806-100xz9.html

https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-health-effects-of-bathing-in-the-Ganges-river

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollution_of_the_Ganges

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-aad46fca-734a-45f9-8721-61404cc12a39

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/what-it-takes-to-clean-the-ganges

https://www.fairobserver.com/region/central_south_asia/the-ganges-is-too-toxic-to-be-holy-anymore-23304/

http://www.all-about-india.com/Ganges-River-Pollution.html

https://weather.com/science/environment/news/ganges-river-pollution
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2017-06-09 04:14:41 UTC
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2017-06-09 12:25:41 UTC
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http://www.viral-next.com/gigantic-human-skeleton-found-in-the-mountains-after-nepal-earthquake/
Hey, Jesper, did you know that the word "gullible" isn't in the
dictionary?
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2017-06-10 20:26:28 UTC
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Nope. Answer the question, hippie.
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2017-06-11 18:25:06 UTC
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http://paranormal.about.com/od/ancientanomalies/ig/Most-Puzzling-Ancient-Artifact/Ancient-Footprint.htm
Nice k00ksite. Is there something in particular you wanted to discuss
about it, or are you just being an idiot?
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2017-06-12 16:20:18 UTC
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Welcome to Anonymous Sense-enjoyers - AS

Sense-gratification is the addiction of the soul. We often talk about
drug addictions. An addiction to heroin, for example, is almost
impossible to conquer. So just like a person is addicted to heroin, so
the soul is addicted to sense-gratification.

In AA people get help overcoming their addiction to alcohol. At the
first meeting you attend, you are supposed to state your name and
recognize that you are an alcoholic. You go - hello, my name is
Michael and I am an alcoholic. Hello Michael, the assembly answers.

Similarly, in AS you go, Hare Krishna, my name is Jiva, and I am a
sense-enjoyer. Hare Krishna Jiva, the assembled devotees greet you.
The addiction the soul has to sense-enjoyment is exactly as severe and
as difficult to overcome, as a person's addiction to heroin. In AA
they teach you, that the only way to overcome your addiction to
alcohol, is to petition a higher power for help. You have to recognize
a higher power outside yourself, and get help from that. And this
metod works. It is a statistical fact. In AS we are so fortunate that
by the mercy of Srila Prabhupada we know Who that higher power is, and
we know how to contact Him.

So by petitioning Krishna by constantly chanting his name loudly in
song or quietly in meditation, He will help us overcome our addiction
to sense-gratification. And it is a scientific fact that can be
investigated and verified by anyone who may so desire. If we refuse to
accept that we are sense-enjoyment-addicts, in fact, if, in stead, we
make it the goal of life, the result will be the disease of repeated
birth and death.

Krishna says:

After attaining Me, the great souls, who are yogis in devotion, never
return to this temporary world, which is full of miseries, because
they have attained the highest perfection. (Bg. 8.15)


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2017-06-12 17:39:54 UTC
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Welcome to Anonymous Sense-enjoyers - AS
Sense-gratification is the addiction of the soul. We often talk about
drug addictions. An addiction to heroin, for example, is almost
impossible to conquer. So just like a person is addicted to heroin, so
Jesper Werneburg is addicted to posting nonsense at atheists.
Fixed it for you as always, hippie.
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2017-06-13 04:53:08 UTC
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In AA they teach you, that the only way to overcome your addiction to
alcohol, is to petition a higher power for help.
I've never actually been to an AA meeting, but I understand that a major
part of the process is that you need to reach rock-bottom, i.e. waking up
in the gutter face down in your own puke.

And as you point out later in the same post, you need to admit to being an
alcoholic. The petitioning to God is only for those that want to blame the
past on his evil twin.
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2017-06-13 12:10:11 UTC
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In AA they teach you, that the only way to overcome your addiction to
alcohol, is to petition a higher power for help.
I've never actually been to an AA meeting, but I understand that a major
part of the process is that you need to reach rock-bottom, i.e. waking up
in the gutter face down in your own puke.
And as you point out later in the same post, you need to admit to being an
alcoholic. The petitioning to God is only for those that want to blame the
past on his evil twin.
The A.A. big book has a chapter which is scurrilously nasty towards
atheists and agnostics, because its founder was a religious loonie.

Somebody posted it to alt.atheism many years ago, and recovered
alcoholics attacked the atheists for objecting.

The biggest problem is that, in many jurisdictions, it is mandated by
the courts.
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In AA they teach you, that the only way to overcome your addiction to
alcohol, is to petition a higher power for help.
I've never actually been to an AA meeting, but I understand that a major
part of the process is that you need to reach rock-bottom, i.e. waking up
in the gutter face down in your own puke.
And as you point out later in the same post, you need to admit to being an
alcoholic. The petitioning to God is only for those that want to blame the
past on his evil twin.
The A.A. big book has a chapter which is scurrilously nasty towards
atheists and agnostics, because its founder was a religious loonie.
Somebody posted it to alt.atheism many years ago, and recovered
alcoholics attacked the atheists for objecting.
The biggest problem is that, in many jurisdictions, it is mandated by
the courts.
Yes. They're are secular alternatives:

https://ffrf.org/outreach/item/16468-finding-secular-alternatives-to-aa

The trick is getting the courts in some jurisdictions to accept
one of them as an AA-equivalent.

http://www.rehabs.com/pro-talk-articles/you-cant-make-me-or-can-you-mandated-aa-attendance/

http://www.rational.org/index.php?id=48

Note: IANAL. If you find yourself being forced into AA or similar
religious program by the courts, get legal representation.

Kevin R
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The A.A. big book has a chapter which is scurrilously nasty towards
atheists and agnostics, because its founder was a religious loonie.
AA is an example of something good brought to us by the pernicious evil of
organized religion. It exemplifies the cognitive dissonance felt by myself
about religion in general. It is apparent (to me, and probably to some
other atheists) that everyone benefits from the submission of their
self-destructive and antisocial tendencies towards a greater authority. In
an atheist, it is the submission to the 'Rule of Law'. This is the
political system with associated laws determined by an amalgamation of
concensus and majority opinion.

It is inconsistent because each geographic region has its own sovereignty,
with unique heirarchies of jurisdictions and antiquated precedents, but we
agree to abide by it because to do otherwise invites complete anarchy if
individuals were to be free to do whatever they want.

For some people, the collective will of society is not authorative enough,
and they need to have an agency of higher stature. And it's fine by me if
it's easier for them to anthropomorphize an abstacted higher power in order
to abdicate to its supremity.

The problem is that when they feel in their heart and soul that they have
direct communion with their imaginary friend, it gives them the right to
ignore the obviously imperfect secular restrictions on behaviour which have
been refined by lessons learned through the thousands of years of communal
interactions we call 'civilization'.
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The A.A. big book has a chapter which is scurrilously nasty towards
atheists and agnostics, because its founder was a religious loonie.
AA is an example of something good brought to us by the pernicious evil of
organized religion. It exemplifies the cognitive dissonance felt by myself
about religion in general. It is apparent (to me, and probably to some
other atheists) that everyone benefits from the submission of their
self-destructive and antisocial tendencies towards a greater authority. In
an atheist, it is the submission to the 'Rule of Law'. This is the
political system with associated laws determined by an amalgamation of
concensus and majority opinion.
It is inconsistent because each geographic region has its own sovereignty,
with unique heirarchies of jurisdictions and antiquated precedents, but we
agree to abide by it because to do otherwise invites complete anarchy if
individuals were to be free to do whatever they want.
For some people, the collective will of society is not authorative enough,
and they need to have an agency of higher stature. And it's fine by me if
it's easier for them to anthropomorphize an abstacted higher power in order
to abdicate to its supremity.
The problem is that when they feel in their heart and soul that they have
direct communion with their imaginary friend, it gives them the right to
ignore the obviously imperfect secular restrictions on behaviour which have
been refined by lessons learned through the thousands of years of communal
interactions we call 'civilization'.
But this doesn't excuse their vicious nastiness towards atheists.
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But this doesn't excuse their vicious nastiness towards atheists.
awww, pooer you :)

I was watching Breaking Bad, and he was saying how important to him it
is to be remembered well by his family when he is gone - that they
should miss him.

From a spiritual point that makes so little sense. Who cares if you
are missed, when you are not there to experience it? YOU certainly
don't. Why care how you are remembered, if you are dead? And if you
are in a new body why would you care? Or if you are in heaven or hell,
why should you give a hoot? Or if you're extinct, as atheists believe
- even less reason to care about how you were remembered by people who
will also soon die.

See, that's the whole point - what to remember. To remember Krishna,
now, that makes sense, and it makes one blissful. But to remember who
did what, who said what, and do they like me? - I mean, if you are
dead, who cares? ... it leads to lamentation anyway you look at it.
And from the point of view of reality, i.e. from an eternal point of
view - it's all going on in a few seconds, nay, not even that.

And these short fleeting moments, that's what the whole world revolves
around - the news, politics, sports, movies, series, literature,
magazines etc. - what most people consider real, is but a fleeting
moment in eternity. Therefore Krishna says:

Those who are seers of the truth have concluded that of the
nonexistent [the material body] there is no endurance and of the
eternal [the soul] there is no change. This they have concluded by
studying the nature of both. (Bg 2.16)

The reality portrayed by Hollywood is totally ridiculous. The way they
speak and interact, how they cannot just tell someone about their
problems, how they don't get hurt and get right back up to fight even
after being flung 10 m through air and crashed into a wall. Add to
that some romance, gambling, sex, drugs rockn'roll, and you have
yourself a bona-fide Hollywood dream. Clearly they want to be God.
Don't worry, everything's going to be alright, he promises in a deep
voice. Hahaha :) Nothing is ever going to be alright in this world,
for it invariably ends in old age, disease and death. Only God can
promise you that everything is going to be ok, because only God knows
the future.

Take for example Jason Bourne. Now, that was superb action, but the
dialogues and story-line were absolutely ridiculous. - Oh, who AM I,
I don't know who I am, he laments desperately. I mean, who does that?
A normal person would ponder the situation: I'm a martial arts expert.
I just downed 2 police officers in 10 seconds using aikido, which is
the hardest martial art to learn, but Jason is all confused and
bewildered. To possess those skills, you are obviously a trained
operative - a secret agent of some sort. Could it be that since you
are an American you must be trained by CIA, NSA, Secret Service or any
other government agency of the US? Instead the hero wails - I don't
know who I am - with tears in his eyes he bangs his head against the
wall (exaggeration enhances the understanding, as they say in Denmark
:).

Or the scary-movie… there's a deep dark hole in the ground, and
gurgling, snarling, hissing sounds can be heard from inside. Gee,
says the girl (it's always a girl) let me stick my head in there and
check it out - I wonder what's making that gurgling sound… I mean, can
it get any more idiotic?

Or the dominant, aggressive, pushy woman. No woman, by nature, is like
that. The female nature is to be passive and non-aggressive. The
aggressive, go-get-it woman who hits on men - clearly a dream of
Hollywood producers, who are all lusty men. A woman's nature is to be
passive. Instead we are fed endless streams of ass-kicking,
aggressive, dominant women. In the end women begin to think that this
is how they should be.

The question of theodisé - how evil entered the world in the face of
an almighty, all-good God, has baffled church-fathers for ages. Even
after 2000 years the Church has not managed to come up with a good
answer. That's Satan, is all they can come up with. But why would a
benevolent, almighty God allow Satan to perform his nefarious
activities? Only the Vaishnava religion has a coherent, consistent and
philosophically sound answer to that question.

In former ages atheists and demons tried to kill Krishna with weapons,
today they try to kill God by propounding brain-dead philosophy to the
masses. And the population laps it up like pudding, because it is what
they want to hear, because we all came here to the material world to
get away from Krishna. Evil is the soul's desire to be away from
Krishna, to forget Krishna.

It's a fact - all living entities seek love. It's what everyone wants
- to love someone and to be loved and appreciated in return. We seek
this love in spouse, family, off-spring, friends, society, nation and
so on.

It is also a fact that the love we develop in a body, without
exception, ends in lamentation. Either she dies, or I die, or she goes
away and stops loving me, or I stop loving her. In any case, love
always ends. Yet we yearn for eternal love. - I will love you forever,
the hero says, and I will always love you in return, she answers.

But in the 'real' world love forever never happens. That is life in a
material body - temporary and full of suffering. As a solution to this
hopeless existence, Krishna comes again and again and offers us the
chance to come back and enjoy with Him on the eternal plane.

Krishna says:

O learned Uddhava, those who fix their consciousness on Me, giving up
all material desires, share with Me a happiness that cannot possibly
be experienced by those engaged in sense gratification.

--Srimad Bhagavatam 11.14.12




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But this doesn't excuse their vicious nastiness towards atheists.
awww, pooer you :)
I was watching Breaking Bad
That may help explain why you always sound like you're on drugs.
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Post by Christopher A. Lee
But this doesn't excuse their vicious nastiness towards atheists.
awww, pooer you :)
Further evidence that he is a psyxchopath.
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Post by Jahnu
I was watching Breaking Bad
That may help explain why you always sound like you're on drugs.
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The modern consumer culture has not even lasted a second in a cosmic
scale. The Romans were a pretty ignorant, debased bunch and they
managed to rule for almost 1000 years. The Egyptians before them
lasted almost 3000 years. That's because they worshipped demigods.
They were actually more in tune with the workings of nature than the
modern western civilization. According to the Vedic model the more
right something is, the longer it lasts and the more wrong it is, the
shorter it lasts. I have explained this in another text about the 3
modes of material nature.

The Mickey Mouse culture that produces ignorant idiots like you,
Birdbrain, has not even lasted 100 years (if we say, it started after
WWII), and it is already in the process of being demolished by nature.

So the modern western civilization is going down, exactly as predicted
by God.

You see, brainwashed, mindless citizens like you are so incredibly
short-sighted caught up as they are in a ridiculous linear conception
of time... in their miniscule brains they can't even conceive of the
vast spans of time mentioned in the Vedas, and which operate this
universe. They think their insignificant little piss-ant existence is
the all in all. ptsss. You are in for a very painful awakening,
Birdbrain. I almost feel sorry for you.

Krishna says:

By human calculation, a thousand ages taken together form the duration
of Brahma’s one day. And such also is the duration of his night.
(Bg 8.17)

(Re.: one day of Brahma is calulated to be 4,320 billion solar years
and so is his night. After each of Brahma's days there is a
destruction of the middle planetary systems by fire and then water,
and after each night the earth is re-created by Brahma)

At the beginning of Brahma’s day, all living entities become manifest
from the unmanifest state, and thereafter, when the night falls, they
are merged into the unmanifest again.(Bg 8.18)

Again and again, when Brahma’s day arrives, all living entities come
into being, and with the arrival of Brahma’s night they are helplessly
annihilated. (Bg 8.19)

Yet there is another unmanifest nature, which is eternal and is
transcendental to this manifested and unmanifested matter. It is
supreme and is never annihilated. When all in this world is
annihilated, that part remains as it is. (Bg 8.20)

That which the Vedantists describe as unmanifest and infallible, that
which is known as the supreme destination, that place from which,
having attained it, one never returns – that is My supreme abode. (Bg
8.21)


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And as you point out later in the same post, you need to admit to being an
alcoholic. The petitioning to God is only for those that want to blame the
past on his evil twin.
I was watching Breaking Bad, and he was saying how important to him it
is to be remembered well by his family when he is gone - that they
should miss him.

From a spiritual point that makes so little sense. Who cares if you
are missed, when you are not there to experience it? YOU certainly
don't. Why care how you are remembered, if you are dead? And if you
are in a new body why would you care? Or if you are in heaven or hell,
why should you give a hoot? Or if you're extinct, as atheists believe
- even less reason to care about how you were remembered by people who
will also soon die.

See, that's the whole point - what to remember. To remember Krishna,
now, that makes sense, and it makes one blissful. But to remember who
did what, who said what, and do they like me? - I mean, if you are
dead, who cares? ... it leads to lamentation anyway you look at it.
And from the point of view of reality, i.e. from an eternal point of
view - it's all going on in a few seconds, nay, not even that.

And these short fleeting moments, that's what the whole world revolves
around - the news, politics, sports, movies, series, literature,
magazines etc. - what most people consider real, is but a fleeting
moment in eternity. Therefore Krishna says:

Those who are seers of the truth have concluded that of the
nonexistent [the material body] there is no endurance and of the
eternal [the soul] there is no change. This they have concluded by
studying the nature of both. (Bg 2.16)

The reality portrayed by Hollywood is totally ridiculous. The way they
speak and interact, how they cannot just tell someone about their
problems, how they don't get hurt and get right back up to fight even
after being flung 10 m through air and crashed into a wall. Add to
that some romance, gambling, sex, drugs rockn'roll, and you have
yourself a bona-fide Hollywood dream. Clearly they want to be God.
Don't worry, everything's going to be alright, he promises in a deep
voice. Hahaha :) Nothing is ever going to be alright in this world,
for it invariably ends in old age, disease and death. Only God can
promise you that everything is going to be ok, because only God knows
the future.

Take for example Jason Bourne. Now, that was superb action, but the
dialogues and story-line were absolutely ridiculous. - Oh, who AM I,
I don't know who I am, he laments desperately. I mean, who does that?
A normal person would ponder the situation: I'm a martial arts expert.
I just downed 2 police officers in 10 seconds using aikido, which is
the hardest martial art to learn, but Jason is all confused and
bewildered. To possess those skills, you are obviously a trained
operative - a secret agent of some sort. Could it be that since you
are an American you must be trained by CIA, NSA, Secret Service or any
other government agency of the US? Instead the hero wails - I don't
know who I am - with tears in his eyes he bangs his head against the
wall (exaggeration enhances the understanding, as they say in Denmark
:).

Or the scary-movie… there's a deep dark hole in the ground, and
gurgling, snarling, hissing sounds can be heard from inside. Gee,
says the girl (it's always a girl) let me stick my head in there and
check it out - I wonder what's making that gurgling sound… I mean, can
it get any more idiotic?

Or the dominant, aggressive, pushy woman. No woman, by nature, is like
that. The female nature is to be passive and non-aggressive. The
aggressive, go-get-it woman who hits on men - clearly a dream of
Hollywood producers, who are all lusty men. A woman's nature is to be
passive. Instead we are fed endless streams of ass-kicking,
aggressive, dominant women. In the end women begin to think that this
is how they should be.

The question of theodisé - how evil entered the world in the face of
an almighty, all-good God, has baffled church-fathers for ages. Even
after 2000 years the Church has not managed to come up with a good
answer. That's Satan, is all they can come up with. But why would a
benevolent, almighty God allow Satan to perform his nefarious
activities? Only the Vaishnava religion has a coherent, consistent and
philosophically sound answer to that question.

In former ages atheists and demons tried to kill Krishna with weapons,
today they try to kill God by propounding brain-dead philosophy to the
masses. And the population laps it up like pudding, because it is what
they want to hear, because we all came here to the material world to
get away from Krishna. Evil is the soul's desire to be away from
Krishna, to forget Krishna.

It's a fact - all living entities seek love. It's what everyone wants
- to love someone and to be loved and appreciated in return. We seek
this love in spouse, family, off-spring, friends, society, nation and
so on.

It is also a fact that the love we develop in a body, without
exception, ends in lamentation. Either she dies, or I die, or she goes
away and stops loving me, or I stop loving her. In any case, love
always ends. Yet we yearn for eternal love. - I will love you forever,
the hero says, and I will always love you in return, she answers.

But in the 'real' world love forever never happens. That is life in a
material body - temporary and full of suffering. As a solution to this
hopeless existence, Krishna comes again and again and offers us the
chance to come back and enjoy with Him on the eternal plane.

Krishna says:

O learned Uddhava, those who fix their consciousness on Me, giving up
all material desires, share with Me a happiness that cannot possibly
be experienced by those engaged in sense gratification.

--Srimad Bhagavatam 11.14.12




Have a look at my art -


http://youtu.be/uWw9o4DMHMo - God the Supreme Designer
http://youtu.be/2uRbsf9Vzg8 - Sudder street
http://youtu.be/y4F6tkoYZok - Planet Plant
http://youtu.be/e_ejv98XyL8 - Nature



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Jahnu
2017-06-14 03:15:47 UTC
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Post by Mike_Duffy
I've never actually been to an AA meeting, but I understand that a major
part of the process is that you need to reach rock-bottom, i.e. waking up
in the gutter face down in your own puke.
And as you point out later in the same post, you need to admit to being an
alcoholic. The petitioning to God is only for those that want to blame the
past on his evil twin.
I was watching Breaking Bad, and he was saying how important to him it
is to be remembered well by his family when he is gone - that they
should miss him.

From a spiritual point that makes so little sense. Who cares if you
are missed, when you are not there to experience it? YOU certainly
don't. Why care how you are remembered, if you are dead? And if you
are in a new body why would you care? Or if you are in heaven or hell,
why should you give a hoot? Or if you're extinct, as atheists believe
- even less reason to care about how you were remembered by people who
will also soon die.

See, that's the whole point - what to remember. To remember Krishna,
now, that makes sense, and it makes one blissful. But to remember who
did what, who said what, and do they like me? - I mean, if you are
dead, who cares? ... it leads to lamentation anyway you look at it.
And from the point of view of reality, i.e. from an eternal point of
view - it's all going on in a few seconds, nay, not even that.

And these short fleeting moments, that's what the whole world revolves
around - the news, politics, sports, movies, series, literature,
magazines etc. - what most people consider real, is but a fleeting
moment in eternity. Therefore Krishna says:

Those who are seers of the truth have concluded that of the
nonexistent [the material body] there is no endurance and of the
eternal [the soul] there is no change. This they have concluded by
studying the nature of both. (Bg 2.16)

The reality portrayed by Hollywood is totally ridiculous. The way they
speak and interact, how they cannot just tell someone about their
problems, how they don't get hurt and get right back up to fight even
after being flung 10 m through air and crashed into a wall. Add to
that some romance, gambling, sex, drugs rockn'roll, and you have
yourself a bona-fide Hollywood dream. Clearly they want to be God.
Don't worry, everything's going to be alright, he promises in a deep
voice. Hahaha :) Nothing is ever going to be alright in this world,
for it invariably ends in old age, disease and death. Only God can
promise you that everything is going to be ok, because only God knows
the future.

Take for example Jason Bourne. Now, that was superb action, but the
dialogues and story-line were absolutely ridiculous. - Oh, who AM I,
I don't know who I am, he laments desperately. I mean, who does that?
A normal person would ponder the situation: I'm a martial arts expert.
I just downed 2 police officers in 10 seconds using aikido, which is
the hardest martial art to learn, but Jason is all confused and
bewildered. To possess those skills, you are obviously a trained
operative - a secret agent of some sort. Could it be that since you
are an American you must be trained by CIA, NSA, Secret Service or any
other government agency of the US? Instead the hero wails - I don't
know who I am - with tears in his eyes he bangs his head against the
wall (exaggeration enhances the understanding, as they say in Denmark
:).

Or the scary-movie… there's a deep dark hole in the ground, and
gurgling, snarling, hissing sounds can be heard from inside. Gee,
says the girl (it's always a girl) let me stick my head in there and
check it out - I wonder what's making that gurgling sound… I mean, can
it get any more idiotic?

Or the dominant, aggressive, pushy woman. No woman, by nature, is like
that. The female nature is to be passive and non-aggressive. The
aggressive, go-get-it woman who hits on men - clearly a dream of
Hollywood producers, who are all lusty men. A woman's nature is to be
passive. Instead we are fed endless streams of ass-kicking,
aggressive, dominant women. In the end women begin to think that this
is how they should be.

The question of theodisé - how evil entered the world in the face of
an almighty, all-good God, has baffled church-fathers for ages. Even
after 2000 years the Church has not managed to come up with a good
answer. That's Satan, is all they can come up with. But why would a
benevolent, almighty God allow Satan to perform his nefarious
activities? Only the Vaishnava religion has a coherent, consistent and
philosophically sound answer to that question.

In former ages atheists and demons tried to kill Krishna with weapons,
today they try to kill God by propounding brain-dead philosophy to the
masses. And the population laps it up like pudding, because it is what
they want to hear, because we all came here to the material world to
get away from Krishna. Evil is the soul's desire to be away from
Krishna, to forget Krishna.

It's a fact - all living entities seek love. It's what everyone wants
- to love someone and to be loved and appreciated in return. We seek
this love in spouse, family, off-spring, friends, society, nation and
so on.

It is also a fact that the love we develop in a body, without
exception, ends in lamentation. Either she dies, or I die, or she goes
away and stops loving me, or I stop loving her. In any case, love
always ends. Yet we yearn for eternal love. - I will love you forever,
the hero says, and I will always love you in return, she answers.

But in the 'real' world love forever never happens. That is life in a
material body - temporary and full of suffering. As a solution to this
hopeless existence, Krishna comes again and again and offers us the
chance to come back and enjoy with Him on the eternal plane.

Krishna says:

O learned Uddhava, those who fix their consciousness on Me, giving up
all material desires, share with Me a happiness that cannot possibly
be experienced by those engaged in sense gratification.

--Srimad Bhagavatam 11.14.12




Have a look at my art -


http://youtu.be/uWw9o4DMHMo - God the Supreme Designer
http://youtu.be/2uRbsf9Vzg8 - Sudder street
http://youtu.be/y4F6tkoYZok - Planet Plant
http://youtu.be/e_ejv98XyL8 - Nature



http://www.touchtalent.com//artist/118705/jahnu-das
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