Matt Giwer's "stupid little gooks" comment.

[Fredric L. Rice]

"It is stupid little gooks that bother me. Go
stick it up your yellow ass." - Matt Giwer

"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete
and total gerbil smuggling sheep humper, and now
you've provided me with concrete evidence. It's
losers like that who give the rest of us godless
heathens a bad name." - Quentin Fai

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[George]

Post by Fredric L. Rice
"It is stupid little gooks that bother me. Go
stick it up your yellow ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete
and total gerbil smuggling sheep humper, and now
you've provided me with concrete evidence. It's
losers like that who give the rest of us godless
heathens a bad name." - Quentin Fai

Well I suppose now the Giwer is claiming to be the all round racist
and nazi sympathiser.
Perhaps at each fool moon they have competitions ?

[Matt Giwer]

Post by George

Post by Fredric L. Rice
"It is stupid little gooks that bother me. Go
stick it up your yellow ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete
and total gerbil smuggling sheep humper, and now
you've provided me with concrete evidence. It's
losers like that who give the rest of us godless
heathens a bad name." - Quentin Fai

Well I suppose now the Giwer is claiming to be the all round racist
and nazi sympathiser.
Perhaps at each fool moon they have competitions ?

Are you truly stupid enough to believe what a scientologist posts?

[Fredric L. Rice]

Post by George

Post by Fredric L. Rice
"It is stupid little gooks that bother me. Go
stick it up your yellow ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete
and total gerbil smuggling sheep humper, and now
you've provided me with concrete evidence. It's
losers like that who give the rest of us godless
heathens a bad name." - Quentin Fai

Well I suppose now the Giwer is claiming to be the all round racist
and nazi sympathiser. Perhaps at each fool moon they have competitions ?

This comment of his is more than 10 years old. Maybe his notions
have changed since then.

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[Matt Giwer]

Post by Fredric L. Rice

Post by George

Post by Fredric L. Rice
"It is stupid little gooks that bother me. Go
stick it up your yellow ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete
and total gerbil smuggling sheep humper, and now
you've provided me with concrete evidence. It's
losers like that who give the rest of us godless
heathens a bad name." - Quentin Fai

Well I suppose now the Giwer is claiming to be the all round racist
and nazi sympathiser. Perhaps at each fool moon they have competitions ?

This comment of his is more than 10 years old. Maybe his notions
have changed since then.

In fact you are a lying SOB scientologist.

Does your demented scientologist mind have the least evidence I ever
posted such material? Please demonstrate you are not a subhuman
knuckledraggers and produce the evidence you freaky little piece of shit.

Take all the screens you need. I have the patience to wait and the
perseverence to demand you produce it in response to every post you
make for the rest of your pathetic life.

[Fredric L. Rice]

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by Fredric L. Rice
This comment of his is more than 10 years old. Maybe his notions
have changed since then.

In fact you are a lying SOB scientologist.

The blue pill is your friend, Matt. Take it, for Xenu's sake.

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[George]

Post by Fredric L. Rice

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by Fredric L. Rice
This comment of his is more than 10 years old. Maybe his notions
have changed since then.

In fact you are a lying SOB scientologist.

The blue pill is your friend, Matt. Take it, for Xenu's sake.

Well.
These Nazi sympathisers who now abound on the Net.
What are we to do with them?
There don't seem to be too many of them so they must be conserved.
Now, how is this to be done??
I ask, why not use the same methods as they (the Nazi) used and must,
now, advocate.
Anything so rare you have to identify. Then you have to mark it/them.
How about stars? Big stars. Star of David stars.
Big ones. One on the front and one on the back of their clothes..
pink and yellow would be good colours.
And a tattoo. On the right forearm. Merely for identification of
course. Wouldn't take too long or hurt all that much. They would
realise the need. Just think of all the naughty people out there who
would envy and try to gain the speclal care given to the Nazi's...
After all it would be for their protection and their promotion. All
done in the best possible taste of course.

Now all the nasty people on the streets would most probably (when
told) be very unhappy and some would threaten our erstwhile nazis so
camps would have to be provided to those who found the world an
undesirable or threatening place.
We could put up large wrought iron gates up with words like ‘work is
neat' and , inside the boundaries of the camp (fenced with razor wire
just to keep out the malcontents) huts could be built to accommodate
the nazi. After all one does not want to be remembered as an
ungracious host.

Well as we find more of these self avowed nazis the ordinary means of
transport will probably have to be bolstered by alternates. My old
mate down the road came up with the idea that throughout the world
there must be lots of spare cattle trucks on the railway.
No, that will not do.nazis may be many things but treated like
animals. NO. Animals may object.
SO.
Let us have a filth freight. Buses. To bring the followers of
National Socialism to the camps and the fruition of their labours.
Factories could be set up around the refuges (doesn't that sound
better than camps) and those nazi (fit enough) could work on behalf
of the ill and indisposed.
Sadly, when the ill and indisposed cannot contribute to the endeavour
in a physical sense the guardians will be permitted to find alternate
methods for the criminal recalerants to contribute toward the
endeavour.
Of course the poor nazi who die of the strain of travel or the strain
of employment will be treated with the utmost decorum. Cremation
and their ashes will be spread in a nearby valley.
When the valley is full we will post a sign recording the fact.
It will be illegal to move the sign.
Of course those who do not work do not get food. And they don't get
all that much of anything. And then they die. All those lazy idle
nazis. We tried our hardest but they don't work, they don't care
that we are protecing them.
As the buses arrive each new addition is examined . nazi women with
newborn children are going to take too long to get into the workforce

America, a great and wonderful land. How, I wonder, shall we deal with
her nazi??
Let us permit them to post their stupidity, sorry, I mean their
doctrine throughout the sentinent world through a medium (the
Internet) wherein all people on the Earth have a chance to explain to
nazis exactly why festering farts and their doctrines smell the same.
Before we place them in the places designed for their security

[Fredric L. Rice]

Post by Fredric L. Rice

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by Fredric L. Rice
This comment of his is more than 10 years old. Maybe his notions
have changed since then.

In fact you are a lying SOB scientologist.

The blue pill is your friend, Matt. Take it, for Xenu's sake.

Well. These Nazi sympathisers who now abound on the Net.

I don't know whether Matt is a "Nazi sympathizer" or whether he
just thinks that the Jewish Holocaust is a hoax. And I don't know
what motivates the kook: I gave up trying to determine that years
ago.

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[Matt Giwer]

Post by Fredric L. Rice

Post by Fredric L. Rice

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by Fredric L. Rice
This comment of his is more than 10 years old. Maybe his notions
have changed since then.

In fact you are a lying SOB scientologist.

The blue pill is your friend, Matt. Take it, for Xenu's sake.

Well. These Nazi sympathisers who now abound on the Net.

I don't know whether Matt is a "Nazi sympathizer" or whether he
just thinks that the Jewish Holocaust is a hoax. And I don't know
what motivates the kook: I gave up trying to determine that years
ago.

I have never said the Nazi holocaust was a hoax. I have not said the
jewish holocaust was a hoax. Why do you lie? Scientology took made you
a liar or was it your parents who raised you a liar? Does it run in
your family? Is it the genetic defect which lead you to Scientology?

When will you post the statistics on Clearwater crime?

[Matt Giwer]

Post by Fredric L. Rice

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by Fredric L. Rice
This comment of his is more than 10 years old. Maybe his notions
have changed since then.

In fact you are a lying SOB scientologist.

The blue pill is your friend, Matt. Take it, for Xenu's sake.

If you wish to claim I did post something it is incumbent upon you to
produce evidence of it. As everyone knows, that means full headers for
each post and of course the entire post without editting. And it is
always desirable to post the context of the thread with preceding and
following posts.

I simply assert you are a liar for posting false material which you
attribute to me.

BTW: Ever done the math of Clearwater crime statistics? Too hard for
you? Don't know what a confidence interval is?

[Matt Giwer]

Post by Fredric L. Rice
"It is stupid little gooks that bother me. Go
stick it up your yellow ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete
and total gerbil smuggling sheep humper, and now
you've provided me with concrete evidence. It's
losers like that who give the rest of us godless
heathens a bad name." - Quentin Fai

Do Scientology teach you to invent lies like that?

Would you not better spend your time producing the evidence needed to
establish your hypothesis instead of inventing such patent nonsense?

You can post all the fictions you wish. That not stop me from
identifying the stupidities in your posts.

[Fredric L. Rice]

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by Fredric L. Rice
"It is stupid little gooks that bother me. Go
stick it up your yellow ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete
and total gerbil smuggling sheep humper, and now
you've provided me with concrete evidence. It's
losers like that who give the rest of us godless
heathens a bad name." - Quentin Fai

Do Scientology teach you to invent lies like that?

You posted it in the HolySmoke echo anywhere from 10 to 15 years ago.
It's in the 1995 HolySmoke echo FAQ -- 9 years ago. And I archive
the echo against the day I acquire a gigabyte of web space to make it
all available. I suppose I _could_ write a program to go extract your
original posting. You sure you want me to do that and expose even
more of your unfortunate ideologies of that time?

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[Matt Giwer]

Post by Fredric L. Rice

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by Fredric L. Rice
"It is stupid little gooks that bother me. Go
stick it up your yellow ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete
and total gerbil smuggling sheep humper, and now
you've provided me with concrete evidence. It's
losers like that who give the rest of us godless
heathens a bad name." - Quentin Fai

Do Scientology teach you to invent lies like that?

You posted it in the HolySmoke echo anywhere from 10 to 15 years ago.
It's in the 1995 HolySmoke echo FAQ -- 9 years ago. And I archive
the echo against the day I acquire a gigabyte of web space to make it
all available. I suppose I _could_ write a program to go extract your
original posting. You sure you want me to do that and expose even
more of your unfortunate ideologies of that time?

What is Holysmoke? Where are the headers? What is your evidence in
support of your lie?

Give it a rest. Scientology rots the mind and you had so little to
start with.

Evidence, Geek. Produce it, scumbag.

[tim gueguen]

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by Fredric L. Rice
You posted it in the HolySmoke echo anywhere from 10 to 15 years ago.
It's in the 1995 HolySmoke echo FAQ -- 9 years ago. And I archive
the echo against the day I acquire a gigabyte of web space to make it
all available. I suppose I _could_ write a program to go extract your
original posting. You sure you want me to do that and expose even
more of your unfortunate ideologies of that time?

What is Holysmoke? Where are the headers? What is your evidence in
support of your lie?
Give it a rest. Scientology rots the mind and you had so little to
start with.
Evidence, Geek. Produce it, scumbag.

You should know better than to ask for something like that. All it ever
does is gets you in even more trouble.

tim gueguen 101867

[Matt Giwer]

Post by tim gueguen

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by Fredric L. Rice
You posted it in the HolySmoke echo anywhere from 10 to 15 years ago.
It's in the 1995 HolySmoke echo FAQ -- 9 years ago. And I archive
the echo against the day I acquire a gigabyte of web space to make it
all available. I suppose I _could_ write a program to go extract your
original posting. You sure you want me to do that and expose even
more of your unfortunate ideologies of that time?

What is Holysmoke? Where are the headers? What is your evidence in
support of your lie?
Give it a rest. Scientology rots the mind and you had so little to
start with.
Evidence, Geek. Produce it, scumbag.

You should know better than to ask for something like that. All it ever
does is gets you in even more trouble.

You mean like pointing out the nancyboys at Nizkor created all that
libel without including complete headers? What conceivable trouble is
that?

[Fredric L. Rice]

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by tim gueguen

Post by Matt Giwer
Evidence, Geek. Produce it, scumbag.

You should know better than to ask for something like that. All it ever
does is gets you in even more trouble.

You mean like pointing out the nancyboys at Nizkor created all that
libel without including complete headers? What conceivable trouble is
that?

I would be most interested in learning which pieces of the Nizkor
project are "libel." I would settle for citations on which parts
are "sadly mistaken" as well.

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[Matt Giwer]

Post by Fredric L. Rice

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by tim gueguen

Post by Matt Giwer
Evidence, Geek. Produce it, scumbag.

You should know better than to ask for something like that. All it ever
does is gets you in even more trouble.

You mean like pointing out the nancyboys at Nizkor created all that
libel without including complete headers? What conceivable trouble is
that?

I would be most interested in learning which pieces of the Nizkor
project are "libel." I would settle for citations on which parts
are "sadly mistaken" as well.

There are no headers on anything. Everyone knows full headers are
required. Even you. Or are you as stupid as you post? Look, if it kept
McVay from infecting more men with AIDS his effort wasn't a total
waste. It just that cat virus rots the brain so quickly.

Where are the statistics on Clearwater crime?

[Fredric L. Rice]

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by Fredric L. Rice

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by tim gueguen

Post by Matt Giwer
Evidence, Geek. Produce it, scumbag.

You should know better than to ask for something like that. All it ever
does is gets you in even more trouble.

You mean like pointing out the nancyboys at Nizkor created all that
libel without including complete headers? What conceivable trouble is
that?

I would be most interested in learning which pieces of the Nizkor
project are "libel." I would settle for citations on which parts
are "sadly mistaken" as well.

There are no headers on anything.

No, no, kook: Which parts are libel? Which parts are mistaken?
Be specific so I can go look at what you're complaining about.

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[Matt Giwer]

Post by Fredric L. Rice

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by Fredric L. Rice

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by tim gueguen

Post by Matt Giwer
Evidence, Geek. Produce it, scumbag.

You should know better than to ask for something like that. All it ever
does is gets you in even more trouble.

You mean like pointing out the nancyboys at Nizkor created all that
libel without including complete headers? What conceivable trouble is
that?

I would be most interested in learning which pieces of the Nizkor
project are "libel." I would settle for citations on which parts
are "sadly mistaken" as well.

There are no headers on anything.

No, no, kook: Which parts are libel? Which parts are mistaken?
Be specific so I can go look at what you're complaining about.

Where are the statistics on crime in Clearwater before and after
Scientology?

I made no complaints. I know no one is stupid enough to believe any
of it.

[Fredric L. Rice]

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by Fredric L. Rice

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by Fredric L. Rice

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by tim gueguen

Post by Matt Giwer
Evidence, Geek. Produce it, scumbag.

You should know better than to ask for something like that. All it ever
does is gets you in even more trouble.

You mean like pointing out the nancyboys at Nizkor created all that
libel without including complete headers? What conceivable trouble is
that?

I would be most interested in learning which pieces of the Nizkor
project are "libel." I would settle for citations on which parts
are "sadly mistaken" as well.

There are no headers on anything.

No, no, kook: Which parts are libel? Which parts are mistaken?
Be specific so I can go look at what you're complaining about.

Where are the statistics on crime in Clearwater before and after
Scientology?

Well, that's an admission that your claim of libel was a lie.
There was little doubt but at least now we have confirmation.

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[Matt Giwer]

Post by Fredric L. Rice

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by Fredric L. Rice

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by Fredric L. Rice

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by tim gueguen

Post by Matt Giwer
Evidence, Geek. Produce it, scumbag.

You should know better than to ask for something like that. All it ever
does is gets you in even more trouble.

You mean like pointing out the nancyboys at Nizkor created all that
libel without including complete headers? What conceivable trouble is
that?

I would be most interested in learning which pieces of the Nizkor
project are "libel." I would settle for citations on which parts
are "sadly mistaken" as well.

There are no headers on anything.

No, no, kook: Which parts are libel? Which parts are mistaken?
Be specific so I can go look at what you're complaining about.

Where are the statistics on crime in Clearwater before and after
Scientology?

Well, that's an admission that your claim of libel was a lie.
There was little doubt but at least now we have confirmation.

Maybe you are stupid enough to believe such things. An accurate
description does not constitute a complaint. I welcome such things to
show what my detrators are like.

If that is not enough in this case I gave a good use for it if it
prevented the spread of AIDS to other men. Who knows how many McVay
could have infected if he were not occupied.

[Matt Giwer]

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by Fredric L. Rice

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by Fredric L. Rice

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by tim gueguen

Post by Matt Giwer
Evidence, Geek. Produce it, scumbag.

You should know better than to ask for something like that. All it ever
does is gets you in even more trouble.

You mean like pointing out the nancyboys at Nizkor created all that
libel without including complete headers? What conceivable trouble is
that?

I would be most interested in learning which pieces of the Nizkor
project are "libel." I would settle for citations on which parts
are "sadly mistaken" as well.

There are no headers on anything.

No, no, kook: Which parts are libel? Which parts are mistaken?
Be specific so I can go look at what you're complaining about.

Where are the statistics on crime in Clearwater before and after
Scientology?

Where are those statistics you promised? Are you still trying to
understand the concept of confidence interval?

[Fredric L. Rice]

Post by tim gueguen

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by Fredric L. Rice
You posted it in the HolySmoke echo anywhere from 10 to 15 years ago.
It's in the 1995 HolySmoke echo FAQ -- 9 years ago. And I archive
the echo against the day I acquire a gigabyte of web space to make it
all available. I suppose I _could_ write a program to go extract your
original posting. You sure you want me to do that and expose even
more of your unfortunate ideologies of that time?

What is Holysmoke? Where are the headers? What is your evidence in
support of your lie?
Give it a rest. Scientology rots the mind and you had so little to
start with.
Evidence, Geek. Produce it, scumbag.

You should know better than to ask for something like that. All it ever
does is gets you in even more trouble.

I need to go through the archives of Giwer's postings in the
old evolution echo and make them available on the Internet. Hell,
I need to find about half a gig of web space and put all of the
HolySmoke and Evolution echo archives I have from around 1994 on
onto the Internet. Some of it's actually of some value. }:-}

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[Matt Giwer]

Post by Fredric L. Rice

Post by tim gueguen

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by Fredric L. Rice
You posted it in the HolySmoke echo anywhere from 10 to 15 years ago.
It's in the 1995 HolySmoke echo FAQ -- 9 years ago. And I archive
the echo against the day I acquire a gigabyte of web space to make it
all available. I suppose I _could_ write a program to go extract your
original posting. You sure you want me to do that and expose even
more of your unfortunate ideologies of that time?

What is Holysmoke? Where are the headers? What is your evidence in
support of your lie?
Give it a rest. Scientology rots the mind and you had so little to
start with.
Evidence, Geek. Produce it, scumbag.

You should know better than to ask for something like that. All it ever
does is gets you in even more trouble.

I need to go through the archives of Giwer's postings in the
old evolution echo and make them available on the Internet. Hell,
I need to find about half a gig of web space and put all of the
HolySmoke and Evolution echo archives I have from around 1994 on
onto the Internet. Some of it's actually of some value. }:-}

Where are the statistics on Clearwater crime?

[Fredric L. Rice]

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by Fredric L. Rice

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by Fredric L. Rice
"It is stupid little gooks that bother me. Go
stick it up your yellow ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete
and total gerbil smuggling sheep humper, and now
you've provided me with concrete evidence. It's
losers like that who give the rest of us godless
heathens a bad name." - Quentin Fai

Do Scientology teach you to invent lies like that?

You posted it in the HolySmoke echo anywhere from 10 to 15 years ago.
It's in the 1995 HolySmoke echo FAQ -- 9 years ago. And I archive
the echo against the day I acquire a gigabyte of web space to make it
all available. I suppose I _could_ write a program to go extract your
original posting. You sure you want me to do that and expose even
more of your unfortunate ideologies of that time?

What is Holysmoke?

It's a "sister" echo to the evolution echo. You used to post
to those two echos as well as a few others, most of them dating
from 10 years ago.

Here's another quote from you at around the same time:

Bow down and worship the idol rather than learn. - Matt Giwer

Ring any bells?

You're in the HolySmoke archives and the evolution archives. Here's
a grep of them. If you're interested in having any of these files,
let me know and I would be happy to email them zipped up to you.

File HS.000:
ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete and total gerbil
File HS.010:
Matt Giwer Florida Abrasive
File HS.012:
L> Matt Giwer Florida Abrasive
File HS.013:
"One. (Matt Giwer)" - Scot Bear
ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete and total gerbil
File HS.014:
Matt Giwer Florida Abrasive
File HS.016:
"One. (Matt Giwer)" - Scot Bear
ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete and total gerbil
File HS.022:
He also didn't tell us that his name pulls-up associations with right-wing
extremist organizations (such as the so-called "COMMITTEE FOR WACO
JUSTICE") and right-wing, racist extremist individuals (such as our own
beloved Matthew Giwer.)
File HS.033:
"One. (Matt Giwer)" - Scot Bear
ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete and total gerbil
File HS.035:
"One. (Matt Giwer)" - Scot Bear
ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete and total gerbil
File HS.036:
BTW, here's an old post by Matt Giwer (posted with permission):
Matt Giwer (c) 1995 <3/14>
File HS.060:
... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
File HS.061:
... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
File HS.063:
~*~ Bow down and worship the idol rather than learn. - Matt Giwer
File HS.065:
... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
File HS.075:
AG> Not worth the effort of nuking. I got Giwer to self-combust, but
AG> Not worth the effort of nuking. I got Giwer to self-combust, but
AG>> Not worth the effort of nuking. I got Giwer to
So he went to Controv, where I recruited Matt Giwer (I knew what
Then I went after Matt Giwer in alt.revisonism (Matt is an

Post by Matt Giwer
Then I went after Matt Giwer in alt.revisonism (Matt is an

File HS.076:
AG> So he went to Controv, where I recruited Matt Giwer (I knew what
I was in Controv with Giwer and Muy Grosso. Your estimation of both seems
to be on the mark. Giwer had a web page which I looked up. He's an ugly
little pup. But he is an anti fundy. Not everyone is all bad.
File HS.077:
AG> So he went to Controv, where I recruited Matt Giwer (I knew what
MG> I was in Controv with Giwer and Muy Grosso. Your
MG> estimation of both seems to be on the mark. Giwer had a web
File HS.078:
I know that Giwer is in alt.revisionism and alt.conspiracy right now yet
File HS.079:
PH> AG> Not worth the effort of nuking. I got Giwer to self-combust, but
File HS.080:
... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
~*~ Bow down and worship the idol rather than learn. - Matt Giwer
File HS.120:
That he is; but I sometimes sit while my coffee cools and wonder what
exactly the Ooze from Oz is trying to prove. Laurlie has been tossed from
more conferences than even Matt Giwer, is more blatant in his insipidness
than Ron Stringfellow and as dishonest as Jimmy Swaggart caught red handed.
Is he *really* as stupid as his posts evidence? Does he derive his humor by
making a global ass of himself? Or, is he just a troll with a prolonged,
but seriously skewed, sense of the inane?
File HS.133:
To: MATT GIWER @{ECHOMAIL}*4 Recvd: YES
Sunday December 11 1994 02:49, rolling eyes, Matt Giwer mumbled to Kenneth
File HS.135:
Matt Giwer and Rudzinsky got a reception that puts most fundy-bashing
File HS.138:
~*~ Bow down and worship the idol rather than learn. - Matt Giwer
File HS.143:
... The nuclear family has been decaying for decades. -- Matt Giwer
File HS.152:
... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
File HS.181:
... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
File HS.189:
To: Matt Giwer Mark:

-=> Quoting Matt Giwer to Doug Snead <=-
GD> Replied: No To: Matt Giwer Mark:
GD> ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ -=> Quoting Matt Giwer to Doug Snead <=-
File HS.190:
GD> Replied: No To: Matt Giwer Mark:
GD> ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ -=> Quoting Matt Giwer to Doug Snead <=-
File HS.201:
... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
File HS.211:
... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
File HS.241:
I've heard a great deal about another guy named Matt Giwer, but I don't
-> I've heard a great deal about another guy named Matt Giwer, but I don't
holocaust couldn't have happened. Giwer is a git.
-> -> I've heard a great deal about another guy named Matt Giwer, but I
don't
-> holocaust couldn't have happened. Giwer is a git.
That's what I've heard about Giwer.
File HS.252:
ah> Our old "friend" Matt Giwer is doing his Holocaust denial act
AH>Our old "friend" Matt Giwer is doing his Holocaust denial act on
-> ah> Our old "friend" Matt Giwer is doing his Holocaust denial act
Giwer is like Tim Richardson, like a small plate.
You see, Giwer and Richardson have nothing but their hate.
File HS.257:
... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
File HS.258:
... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
GD>... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
Ah yes, Matt Giwer, one of the few people in Fido who tops Timmy the coward
File HS.261:
... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
File HS.262:
GD> damn word of it." M. Giwer
File HS.267:
Matt Giwer and Robert Weiland ("Minuteman") take that honor, as does
RS>Matt Giwer and Robert Weiland ("Minuteman") take that honor, as does
MG>RS>Matt Giwer and Robert Weiland ("Minuteman") take that honor, as
File HS.272:
Giwer so that's saying a lot. It's not people like Karl that are killing
File HS.278:
Well, at least _YOU_ don't share the same initials as Matt Giwer!
MG> Well, at least _YOU_ don't share the same initials as Matt Giwer!
JB>Giwer!
MG> Well, at least _YOU_ don't share the same initials as Matt Giwer!
WC>Giwer!
WC>Giwer!
WC> WC>Giwer!
File HS.279:
MG> Well, at least _YOU_ don't share the same initials as Matt Giwer!
Well, just combine Asher and Matt Giwer, and you'll get Robert Weiland,
SA>MG> Well, at least _YOU_ don't share the same initials as Matt Giwer!
File HS.290:
... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
File HS.301:
RS>Well, just combine Asher and Matt Giwer, and you'll get Robert
File HS.302:
MG> CH>I don't know who Matt Giwer is.
File HS.305:
MG>> CH>I don't know who Matt Giwer is.
KS> MG> CH>I don't know who Matt Giwer is.
File HS.306:
probably one of the few who managed to NOT kick Matt Giwer out of an echo.
DO>probably one of the few who managed to NOT kick Matt Giwer out of an
echo.
I don't know who Matt Giwer is. But I have come, over time, to know Don
CH>I don't know who Matt Giwer is.
File HS.308:
CH> DO>probably one of the few who managed to NOT kick Matt Giwer out of an
echo.
CH> I don't know who Matt Giwer is. But I have come, over time, to know Don
MG> CH>I don't know who Matt Giwer is.
CH>I don't know who Matt Giwer is.
File HS.314:
RS>> wince just thinking about him. Matt Giwer.
File HS.315:
RS> wince just thinking about him. Matt Giwer.
File HS.316:
MG> RS> wince just thinking about him. Matt Giwer.
RS>MG> RS> wince just thinking about him. Matt Giwer.
File HS.318:
thinking about him. Matt Giwer.
RS>thinking about him. Matt Giwer.
File HS.321:
GD> ... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
GD> You didn't get the tagline: Giwer wasn't taking the bible literally.
File HS.325:
RS> You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
File HS.327:
... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
GD> ... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
CH>Giwer
You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
File HS.328:
RS> You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
CH>Giwer
RS> You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
GD> ... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
You didn't get the tagline: Giwer wasn't taking the bible literally.
KS> RS> You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
File HS.335:
GD> ... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
GD> You didn't get the tagline: Giwer wasn't taking the bible literally.
File HS.339:
RS> You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
CH> MG> Yeah, well _YOU_ don't share initials with Matt Giwer!
CH> MG> Yeah, well _YOU_ don't share initials with Matt Giwer!
File HS.342:
... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
GD> ... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
CH>Giwer
You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
RS> You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
CH>Giwer
RS> You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
GD> ... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
You didn't get the tagline: Giwer wasn't taking the bible literally.
KS> RS> You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
File HS.344:
Thankfully the infamous MG (Giwer) has moved on to other venues (it's more
difficult to ban posters from usenet)
File HS.365:
SQ>Not since Matt Giwer have we had such an interesting Jew-baiting
File HS.366:
Not since Matt Giwer have we had such an interesting Jew-baiting troll.
Not many people here remember ol' Matt, so you've taken a few of us
old-timers on a trip down memory lane. We have plenty of evidence that the
Holocaust occurred, be it witness testimony, photographic evidence,
extracts from speeches given by Hitler, Goering, and Himmler, among other
things. You can find all kinds of little discrepancies and throw the baby
out with the bathwater, if you wish, but the facts all converge that Nazi
Germany systematically attempted and succeeded on a vast scale to
"ausrotten" European Jews. We may not have the bigger (biggest) picture,
but we ultimately have the effects.
RS> Giwer....<G>
RS> Giwer....<G>
Giwer....<G>
RS> Giwer....<G>
File HS.367:
RS> Giwer....<G>
You mean Matt Giwer? That famed "holocaust" Revisionist?
RS>> Giwer....<G>
RS>> Giwer....<G>
IP> You mean Matt Giwer? That famed "holocaust" Revisionist?
File HS1.010:
|Sub: Matt Giwer^J|Date: 11 Jan 97 17:40:26^JEID:a3ff 222b8d00
Does anyone else here remember Matt Giwer? It seems he has acheived
noteriety on the Internet approaching that enjoyed by Steve Winter.
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/
|Sub: Matt Giwer^J|Date: 12 Jan 97 19:05:28^JEID:3025 222c98ae
dw> Does anyone else here remember Matt Giwer? It seems he has
dw> http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/
File HS1.011:
|Sub: Matt Giwer^J|Date: 13 Jan 97 14:05:10^JEID:9787 222d70a0
DW> Does anyone else here remember Matt Giwer?
|Sub: Matt Giwer^J|Date: 14 Jan 97 19:36:49^JEID:4d51 222e9c80
DW> Does anyone else here remember Matt Giwer? It seems he has
DW> http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/
File HS1.012:
|Sub: Matt Giwer^J|Date: 15 Jan 97 14:56:00^JEID:32ec 222f7700
DW> Does anyone else here remember Matt Giwer? It seems
DW> http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/
DW> Does anyone else here remember Matt Giwer?
File HS1.013:
|Sub: Matt Giwer^J|Date: 20 Jan 97 12:11:40^JEID:c4f8 22346174
DW> Does anyone else here remember Matt Giwer? It seems he has
DW> http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/
DW> Does anyone else here remember Matt Giwer?
File HS1.020:
So--who out there ever wondered what Matt Giwer would be like
File HS1.023:
"One. (Matt Giwer)" - Scot Bear
ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete and total gerbil
File HS1.028:
"One. (Matt Giwer)" - Scot Bear
ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete and total gerbil
File HS1.032:
~*~ Bow down and worship the idol rather than learn. - Matt Giwer
File HS1.034:
Matt Giwer is crazy as a loon, but he's not a fundy. he used to give the
deists here a lot of shit.
File HS1.042:
~*~ Bow down and worship the idol rather than learn. - Matt Giwer
File HS1.067:
got into a flame-match with Matt Giwer. He was told to shut up by another
co-
File HS1.123:
From: Matt Giwer
From: Matt Giwer
John Prewett wrote in a message to Matt Giwer:
To: Matt Giwer
From: Matt Giwer
-=> Quoting Ken Wiens to Matt Giwer <=-
07-14-95 17:01JN>In a message to Matt Giwer on 12 Jul 94 09:57:00, Charlie
To: Matt Giwer
To: Matt Giwer
From: Matt Giwer
-> On 07-10-94 10:04, Andrew Ruys got back to Matt Giwer
-> On 07-09-94 11:30, Charlie Ray got back to Matt Giwer
-> On 07-10-94 23:28, Arthur Biele got back to Matt Giwer
-> On 07-09-94 11:41, Charlie Ray got back to Matt Giwer
15 Jul 94 13:00, Charlie Ray wrote to Matt Giwer:
On (16 Jul 94) Richard Rodriguez wrote to Matt Giwer...
To: Matt Giwer
RJ> Ruysius quoth Giwerius upon dyscourse of exasperation
To: Matt Giwer
-> On 07-13-94 22:32, Andrew Ruys got back to Matt Giwer
-> On 07-15-94 20:15, Lee Woofenden got back to Matt Giwer
To: Matt Giwer
Hello MATT GIWER...
Message from: MATT GIWER
To: Matt Giwer
Hello MATT GIWER...
Message from: MATT GIWER
To: Matt Giwer
On (04 Jul 94) Matt Giwer wrote to Preston Simpson...
To: Matt Giwer

---
Scientology tries to disrupt terrorist attacks relief efforts: http://www.cosvm.org/
George W. Bush's latest policy: "No Child Left Untortured Act."

[Matt Giwer]

Post by Fredric L. Rice

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by Fredric L. Rice

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by Fredric L. Rice
"It is stupid little gooks that bother me. Go
stick it up your yellow ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete
and total gerbil smuggling sheep humper, and now
you've provided me with concrete evidence. It's
losers like that who give the rest of us godless
heathens a bad name." - Quentin Fai

Do Scientology teach you to invent lies like that?

You posted it in the HolySmoke echo anywhere from 10 to 15 years ago.
It's in the 1995 HolySmoke echo FAQ -- 9 years ago. And I archive
the echo against the day I acquire a gigabyte of web space to make it
all available. I suppose I _could_ write a program to go extract your
original posting. You sure you want me to do that and expose even
more of your unfortunate ideologies of that time?

What is Holysmoke?

It's a "sister" echo to the evolution echo. You used to post
to those two echos as well as a few others, most of them dating
from 10 years ago.
Bow down and worship the idol rather than learn. - Matt Giwer
Ring any bells?
You're in the HolySmoke archives and the evolution archives. Here's
a grep of them. If you're interested in having any of these files,
let me know and I would be happy to email them zipped up to you.
ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete and total gerbil
Matt Giwer Florida Abrasive
L> Matt Giwer Florida Abrasive
"One. (Matt Giwer)" - Scot Bear
ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete and total gerbil
Matt Giwer Florida Abrasive
"One. (Matt Giwer)" - Scot Bear
ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete and total gerbil
He also didn't tell us that his name pulls-up associations with right-wing
extremist organizations (such as the so-called "COMMITTEE FOR WACO
JUSTICE") and right-wing, racist extremist individuals (such as our own
beloved Matthew Giwer.)
"One. (Matt Giwer)" - Scot Bear
ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete and total gerbil
"One. (Matt Giwer)" - Scot Bear
ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete and total gerbil
Matt Giwer (c) 1995 <3/14>
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
~*~ Bow down and worship the idol rather than learn. - Matt Giwer
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
AG> Not worth the effort of nuking. I got Giwer to self-combust, but
AG> Not worth the effort of nuking. I got Giwer to self-combust, but
AG>> Not worth the effort of nuking. I got Giwer to
So he went to Controv, where I recruited Matt Giwer (I knew what
Then I went after Matt Giwer in alt.revisonism (Matt is an

Post by Matt Giwer
Then I went after Matt Giwer in alt.revisonism (Matt is an

AG> So he went to Controv, where I recruited Matt Giwer (I knew what
I was in Controv with Giwer and Muy Grosso. Your estimation of both seems
to be on the mark. Giwer had a web page which I looked up. He's an ugly
little pup. But he is an anti fundy. Not everyone is all bad.
AG> So he went to Controv, where I recruited Matt Giwer (I knew what
MG> I was in Controv with Giwer and Muy Grosso. Your
MG> estimation of both seems to be on the mark. Giwer had a web
I know that Giwer is in alt.revisionism and alt.conspiracy right now yet
PH> AG> Not worth the effort of nuking. I got Giwer to self-combust, but
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
~*~ Bow down and worship the idol rather than learn. - Matt Giwer
That he is; but I sometimes sit while my coffee cools and wonder what
exactly the Ooze from Oz is trying to prove. Laurlie has been tossed from
more conferences than even Matt Giwer, is more blatant in his insipidness
than Ron Stringfellow and as dishonest as Jimmy Swaggart caught red handed.
Is he *really* as stupid as his posts evidence? Does he derive his humor by
making a global ass of himself? Or, is he just a troll with a prolonged,
but seriously skewed, sense of the inane?
Sunday December 11 1994 02:49, rolling eyes, Matt Giwer mumbled to Kenneth
Matt Giwer and Rudzinsky got a reception that puts most fundy-bashing
~*~ Bow down and worship the idol rather than learn. - Matt Giwer
.... The nuclear family has been decaying for decades. -- Matt Giwer
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
-=> Quoting Matt Giwer to Doug Snead <=-
GD> ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ -=> Quoting Matt Giwer to Doug Snead <=-
GD> ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ -=> Quoting Matt Giwer to Doug Snead <=-
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
I've heard a great deal about another guy named Matt Giwer, but I don't
-> I've heard a great deal about another guy named Matt Giwer, but I don't
holocaust couldn't have happened. Giwer is a git.
-> -> I've heard a great deal about another guy named Matt Giwer, but I
don't
-> holocaust couldn't have happened. Giwer is a git.
That's what I've heard about Giwer.
ah> Our old "friend" Matt Giwer is doing his Holocaust denial act
AH>Our old "friend" Matt Giwer is doing his Holocaust denial act on
-> ah> Our old "friend" Matt Giwer is doing his Holocaust denial act
Giwer is like Tim Richardson, like a small plate.
You see, Giwer and Richardson have nothing but their hate.
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
GD>... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
Ah yes, Matt Giwer, one of the few people in Fido who tops Timmy the coward
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
GD> damn word of it." M. Giwer
Matt Giwer and Robert Weiland ("Minuteman") take that honor, as does
RS>Matt Giwer and Robert Weiland ("Minuteman") take that honor, as does
MG>RS>Matt Giwer and Robert Weiland ("Minuteman") take that honor, as
Giwer so that's saying a lot. It's not people like Karl that are killing
Well, at least _YOU_ don't share the same initials as Matt Giwer!
MG> Well, at least _YOU_ don't share the same initials as Matt Giwer!
JB>Giwer!
MG> Well, at least _YOU_ don't share the same initials as Matt Giwer!
WC>Giwer!
WC>Giwer!
WC> WC>Giwer!
MG> Well, at least _YOU_ don't share the same initials as Matt Giwer!
Well, just combine Asher and Matt Giwer, and you'll get Robert Weiland,
SA>MG> Well, at least _YOU_ don't share the same initials as Matt Giwer!
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
RS>Well, just combine Asher and Matt Giwer, and you'll get Robert
MG> CH>I don't know who Matt Giwer is.
MG>> CH>I don't know who Matt Giwer is.
KS> MG> CH>I don't know who Matt Giwer is.
probably one of the few who managed to NOT kick Matt Giwer out of an echo.
DO>probably one of the few who managed to NOT kick Matt Giwer out of an
echo.
I don't know who Matt Giwer is. But I have come, over time, to know Don
CH>I don't know who Matt Giwer is.
CH> DO>probably one of the few who managed to NOT kick Matt Giwer out of an
echo.
CH> I don't know who Matt Giwer is. But I have come, over time, to know Don
MG> CH>I don't know who Matt Giwer is.
CH>I don't know who Matt Giwer is.
RS>> wince just thinking about him. Matt Giwer.
RS> wince just thinking about him. Matt Giwer.
MG> RS> wince just thinking about him. Matt Giwer.
RS>MG> RS> wince just thinking about him. Matt Giwer.
thinking about him. Matt Giwer.
RS>thinking about him. Matt Giwer.
GD> ... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
GD> You didn't get the tagline: Giwer wasn't taking the bible literally.
RS> You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
GD> ... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
CH>Giwer
You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
RS> You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
CH>Giwer
RS> You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
GD> ... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
You didn't get the tagline: Giwer wasn't taking the bible literally.
KS> RS> You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
GD> ... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
GD> You didn't get the tagline: Giwer wasn't taking the bible literally.
RS> You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
CH> MG> Yeah, well _YOU_ don't share initials with Matt Giwer!
CH> MG> Yeah, well _YOU_ don't share initials with Matt Giwer!
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
GD> ... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
CH>Giwer
You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
RS> You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
CH>Giwer
RS> You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
GD> ... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
You didn't get the tagline: Giwer wasn't taking the bible literally.
KS> RS> You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
Thankfully the infamous MG (Giwer) has moved on to other venues (it's more
difficult to ban posters from usenet)
SQ>Not since Matt Giwer have we had such an interesting Jew-baiting
Not since Matt Giwer have we had such an interesting Jew-baiting troll.
Not many people here remember ol' Matt, so you've taken a few of us
old-timers on a trip down memory lane. We have plenty of evidence that the
Holocaust occurred, be it witness testimony, photographic evidence,
extracts from speeches given by Hitler, Goering, and Himmler, among other
things. You can find all kinds of little discrepancies and throw the baby
out with the bathwater, if you wish, but the facts all converge that Nazi
Germany systematically attempted and succeeded on a vast scale to
"ausrotten" European Jews. We may not have the bigger (biggest) picture,
but we ultimately have the effects.
RS> Giwer....<G>
RS> Giwer....<G>
Giwer....<G>
RS> Giwer....<G>
RS> Giwer....<G>
You mean Matt Giwer? That famed "holocaust" Revisionist?
RS>> Giwer....<G>
RS>> Giwer....<G>
IP> You mean Matt Giwer? That famed "holocaust" Revisionist?
|Sub: Matt Giwer^J|Date: 11 Jan 97 17:40:26^JEID:a3ff 222b8d00
Does anyone else here remember Matt Giwer? It seems he has acheived
noteriety on the Internet approaching that enjoyed by Steve Winter.
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/
|Sub: Matt Giwer^J|Date: 12 Jan 97 19:05:28^JEID:3025 222c98ae
dw> Does anyone else here remember Matt Giwer? It seems he has
dw> http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/
|Sub: Matt Giwer^J|Date: 13 Jan 97 14:05:10^JEID:9787 222d70a0
DW> Does anyone else here remember Matt Giwer?
|Sub: Matt Giwer^J|Date: 14 Jan 97 19:36:49^JEID:4d51 222e9c80
DW> Does anyone else here remember Matt Giwer? It seems he has
DW> http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/
|Sub: Matt Giwer^J|Date: 15 Jan 97 14:56:00^JEID:32ec 222f7700
DW> Does anyone else here remember Matt Giwer? It seems
DW> http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/
DW> Does anyone else here remember Matt Giwer?
|Sub: Matt Giwer^J|Date: 20 Jan 97 12:11:40^JEID:c4f8 22346174
DW> Does anyone else here remember Matt Giwer? It seems he has
DW> http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/
DW> Does anyone else here remember Matt Giwer?
So--who out there ever wondered what Matt Giwer would be like
"One. (Matt Giwer)" - Scot Bear
ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete and total gerbil
"One. (Matt Giwer)" - Scot Bear
ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete and total gerbil
~*~ Bow down and worship the idol rather than learn. - Matt Giwer
Matt Giwer is crazy as a loon, but he's not a fundy. he used to give the
deists here a lot of shit.
~*~ Bow down and worship the idol rather than learn. - Matt Giwer
got into a flame-match with Matt Giwer. He was told to shut up by another
co-
From: Matt Giwer
From: Matt Giwer
To: Matt Giwer
From: Matt Giwer
-=> Quoting Ken Wiens to Matt Giwer <=-
07-14-95 17:01JN>In a message to Matt Giwer on 12 Jul 94 09:57:00, Charlie
To: Matt Giwer
To: Matt Giwer
From: Matt Giwer
-> On 07-10-94 10:04, Andrew Ruys got back to Matt Giwer
-> On 07-09-94 11:30, Charlie Ray got back to Matt Giwer
-> On 07-10-94 23:28, Arthur Biele got back to Matt Giwer
-> On 07-09-94 11:41, Charlie Ray got back to Matt Giwer
On (16 Jul 94) Richard Rodriguez wrote to Matt Giwer...
To: Matt Giwer
RJ> Ruysius quoth Giwerius upon dyscourse of exasperation
To: Matt Giwer
-> On 07-13-94 22:32, Andrew Ruys got back to Matt Giwer
-> On 07-15-94 20:15, Lee Woofenden got back to Matt Giwer
To: Matt Giwer
Hello MATT GIWER...
Message from: MATT GIWER
To: Matt Giwer
Hello MATT GIWER...
Message from: MATT GIWER
To: Matt Giwer
On (04 Jul 94) Matt Giwer wrote to Preston Simpson...
To: Matt Giwer

What specfically is your problem?

Where are the Clearwater crimes statistics?

[Fredric L. Rice]

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by Fredric L. Rice

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by Fredric L. Rice

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by Fredric L. Rice
"It is stupid little gooks that bother me. Go
stick it up your yellow ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete
and total gerbil smuggling sheep humper, and now
you've provided me with concrete evidence. It's
losers like that who give the rest of us godless
heathens a bad name." - Quentin Fai

Do Scientology teach you to invent lies like that?

You posted it in the HolySmoke echo anywhere from 10 to 15 years ago.
It's in the 1995 HolySmoke echo FAQ -- 9 years ago. And I archive
the echo against the day I acquire a gigabyte of web space to make it
all available. I suppose I _could_ write a program to go extract your
original posting. You sure you want me to do that and expose even
more of your unfortunate ideologies of that time?

What is Holysmoke?

It's a "sister" echo to the evolution echo. You used to post
to those two echos as well as a few others, most of them dating
from 10 years ago.
Bow down and worship the idol rather than learn. - Matt Giwer
Ring any bells?
You're in the HolySmoke archives and the evolution archives. Here's
a grep of them. If you're interested in having any of these files,
let me know and I would be happy to email them zipped up to you.
ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete and total gerbil
Matt Giwer Florida Abrasive
L> Matt Giwer Florida Abrasive
"One. (Matt Giwer)" - Scot Bear
ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete and total gerbil
Matt Giwer Florida Abrasive
"One. (Matt Giwer)" - Scot Bear
ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete and total gerbil
He also didn't tell us that his name pulls-up associations with right-wing
extremist organizations (such as the so-called "COMMITTEE FOR WACO
JUSTICE") and right-wing, racist extremist individuals (such as our own
beloved Matthew Giwer.)
"One. (Matt Giwer)" - Scot Bear
ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete and total gerbil
"One. (Matt Giwer)" - Scot Bear
ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete and total gerbil
Matt Giwer (c) 1995 <3/14>
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
~*~ Bow down and worship the idol rather than learn. - Matt Giwer
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
AG> Not worth the effort of nuking. I got Giwer to self-combust, but
AG> Not worth the effort of nuking. I got Giwer to self-combust, but
AG>> Not worth the effort of nuking. I got Giwer to
So he went to Controv, where I recruited Matt Giwer (I knew what
Then I went after Matt Giwer in alt.revisonism (Matt is an

Post by Matt Giwer
Then I went after Matt Giwer in alt.revisonism (Matt is an

AG> So he went to Controv, where I recruited Matt Giwer (I knew what
I was in Controv with Giwer and Muy Grosso. Your estimation of both seems
to be on the mark. Giwer had a web page which I looked up. He's an ugly
little pup. But he is an anti fundy. Not everyone is all bad.
AG> So he went to Controv, where I recruited Matt Giwer (I knew what
MG> I was in Controv with Giwer and Muy Grosso. Your
MG> estimation of both seems to be on the mark. Giwer had a web
I know that Giwer is in alt.revisionism and alt.conspiracy right now yet
PH> AG> Not worth the effort of nuking. I got Giwer to self-combust, but
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
~*~ Bow down and worship the idol rather than learn. - Matt Giwer
That he is; but I sometimes sit while my coffee cools and wonder what
exactly the Ooze from Oz is trying to prove. Laurlie has been tossed from
more conferences than even Matt Giwer, is more blatant in his insipidness
than Ron Stringfellow and as dishonest as Jimmy Swaggart caught red handed.
Is he *really* as stupid as his posts evidence? Does he derive his humor by
making a global ass of himself? Or, is he just a troll with a prolonged,
but seriously skewed, sense of the inane?
Sunday December 11 1994 02:49, rolling eyes, Matt Giwer mumbled to Kenneth
Matt Giwer and Rudzinsky got a reception that puts most fundy-bashing
~*~ Bow down and worship the idol rather than learn. - Matt Giwer
.... The nuclear family has been decaying for decades. -- Matt Giwer
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
-=> Quoting Matt Giwer to Doug Snead <=-
GD> ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ -=> Quoting Matt Giwer to Doug Snead <=-
GD> ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ -=> Quoting Matt Giwer to Doug Snead <=-
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
I've heard a great deal about another guy named Matt Giwer, but I don't
-> I've heard a great deal about another guy named Matt Giwer, but I don't
holocaust couldn't have happened. Giwer is a git.
-> -> I've heard a great deal about another guy named Matt Giwer, but I
don't
-> holocaust couldn't have happened. Giwer is a git.
That's what I've heard about Giwer.
ah> Our old "friend" Matt Giwer is doing his Holocaust denial act
AH>Our old "friend" Matt Giwer is doing his Holocaust denial act on
-> ah> Our old "friend" Matt Giwer is doing his Holocaust denial act
Giwer is like Tim Richardson, like a small plate.
You see, Giwer and Richardson have nothing but their hate.
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
GD>... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
Ah yes, Matt Giwer, one of the few people in Fido who tops Timmy the coward
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
GD> damn word of it." M. Giwer
Matt Giwer and Robert Weiland ("Minuteman") take that honor, as does
RS>Matt Giwer and Robert Weiland ("Minuteman") take that honor, as does
MG>RS>Matt Giwer and Robert Weiland ("Minuteman") take that honor, as
Giwer so that's saying a lot. It's not people like Karl that are killing
Well, at least _YOU_ don't share the same initials as Matt Giwer!
MG> Well, at least _YOU_ don't share the same initials as Matt Giwer!
JB>Giwer!
MG> Well, at least _YOU_ don't share the same initials as Matt Giwer!
WC>Giwer!
WC>Giwer!
WC> WC>Giwer!
MG> Well, at least _YOU_ don't share the same initials as Matt Giwer!
Well, just combine Asher and Matt Giwer, and you'll get Robert Weiland,
SA>MG> Well, at least _YOU_ don't share the same initials as Matt Giwer!
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
RS>Well, just combine Asher and Matt Giwer, and you'll get Robert
MG> CH>I don't know who Matt Giwer is.
MG>> CH>I don't know who Matt Giwer is.
KS> MG> CH>I don't know who Matt Giwer is.
probably one of the few who managed to NOT kick Matt Giwer out of an echo.
DO>probably one of the few who managed to NOT kick Matt Giwer out of an
echo.
I don't know who Matt Giwer is. But I have come, over time, to know Don
CH>I don't know who Matt Giwer is.
CH> DO>probably one of the few who managed to NOT kick Matt Giwer out of an
echo.
CH> I don't know who Matt Giwer is. But I have come, over time, to know Don
MG> CH>I don't know who Matt Giwer is.
CH>I don't know who Matt Giwer is.
RS>> wince just thinking about him. Matt Giwer.
RS> wince just thinking about him. Matt Giwer.
MG> RS> wince just thinking about him. Matt Giwer.
RS>MG> RS> wince just thinking about him. Matt Giwer.
thinking about him. Matt Giwer.
RS>thinking about him. Matt Giwer.
GD> ... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
GD> You didn't get the tagline: Giwer wasn't taking the bible literally.
RS> You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
GD> ... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
CH>Giwer
You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
RS> You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
CH>Giwer
RS> You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
GD> ... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
You didn't get the tagline: Giwer wasn't taking the bible literally.
KS> RS> You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
GD> ... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
GD> You didn't get the tagline: Giwer wasn't taking the bible literally.
RS> You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
CH> MG> Yeah, well _YOU_ don't share initials with Matt Giwer!
CH> MG> Yeah, well _YOU_ don't share initials with Matt Giwer!
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
GD> ... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
CH>Giwer
You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
RS> You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
CH>Giwer
RS> You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
GD> ... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
You didn't get the tagline: Giwer wasn't taking the bible literally.
KS> RS> You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
Thankfully the infamous MG (Giwer) has moved on to other venues (it's more
difficult to ban posters from usenet)
SQ>Not since Matt Giwer have we had such an interesting Jew-baiting
Not since Matt Giwer have we had such an interesting Jew-baiting troll.
Not many people here remember ol' Matt, so you've taken a few of us
old-timers on a trip down memory lane. We have plenty of evidence that the
Holocaust occurred, be it witness testimony, photographic evidence,
extracts from speeches given by Hitler, Goering, and Himmler, among other
things. You can find all kinds of little discrepancies and throw the baby
out with the bathwater, if you wish, but the facts all converge that Nazi
Germany systematically attempted and succeeded on a vast scale to
"ausrotten" European Jews. We may not have the bigger (biggest) picture,
but we ultimately have the effects.
RS> Giwer....<G>
RS> Giwer....<G>
Giwer....<G>
RS> Giwer....<G>
RS> Giwer....<G>
You mean Matt Giwer? That famed "holocaust" Revisionist?
RS>> Giwer....<G>
RS>> Giwer....<G>
IP> You mean Matt Giwer? That famed "holocaust" Revisionist?
|Sub: Matt Giwer^J|Date: 11 Jan 97 17:40:26^JEID:a3ff 222b8d00
Does anyone else here remember Matt Giwer? It seems he has acheived
noteriety on the Internet approaching that enjoyed by Steve Winter.
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/
|Sub: Matt Giwer^J|Date: 12 Jan 97 19:05:28^JEID:3025 222c98ae
dw> Does anyone else here remember Matt Giwer? It seems he has
dw> http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/
|Sub: Matt Giwer^J|Date: 13 Jan 97 14:05:10^JEID:9787 222d70a0
DW> Does anyone else here remember Matt Giwer?
|Sub: Matt Giwer^J|Date: 14 Jan 97 19:36:49^JEID:4d51 222e9c80
DW> Does anyone else here remember Matt Giwer? It seems he has
DW> http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/
|Sub: Matt Giwer^J|Date: 15 Jan 97 14:56:00^JEID:32ec 222f7700
DW> Does anyone else here remember Matt Giwer? It seems
DW> http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/
DW> Does anyone else here remember Matt Giwer?
|Sub: Matt Giwer^J|Date: 20 Jan 97 12:11:40^JEID:c4f8 22346174
DW> Does anyone else here remember Matt Giwer? It seems he has
DW> http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/
DW> Does anyone else here remember Matt Giwer?
So--who out there ever wondered what Matt Giwer would be like
"One. (Matt Giwer)" - Scot Bear
ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete and total gerbil
"One. (Matt Giwer)" - Scot Bear
ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete and total gerbil
~*~ Bow down and worship the idol rather than learn. - Matt Giwer
Matt Giwer is crazy as a loon, but he's not a fundy. he used to give the
deists here a lot of shit.
~*~ Bow down and worship the idol rather than learn. - Matt Giwer
got into a flame-match with Matt Giwer. He was told to shut up by another
co-
From: Matt Giwer
From: Matt Giwer
To: Matt Giwer
From: Matt Giwer
-=> Quoting Ken Wiens to Matt Giwer <=-
07-14-95 17:01JN>In a message to Matt Giwer on 12 Jul 94 09:57:00, Charlie
To: Matt Giwer
To: Matt Giwer
From: Matt Giwer
-> On 07-10-94 10:04, Andrew Ruys got back to Matt Giwer
-> On 07-09-94 11:30, Charlie Ray got back to Matt Giwer
-> On 07-10-94 23:28, Arthur Biele got back to Matt Giwer
-> On 07-09-94 11:41, Charlie Ray got back to Matt Giwer
On (16 Jul 94) Richard Rodriguez wrote to Matt Giwer...
To: Matt Giwer
RJ> Ruysius quoth Giwerius upon dyscourse of exasperation
To: Matt Giwer
-> On 07-13-94 22:32, Andrew Ruys got back to Matt Giwer
-> On 07-15-94 20:15, Lee Woofenden got back to Matt Giwer
To: Matt Giwer
Hello MATT GIWER...
Message from: MATT GIWER
To: Matt Giwer
Hello MATT GIWER...
Message from: MATT GIWER
To: Matt Giwer
On (04 Jul 94) Matt Giwer wrote to Preston Simpson...
To: Matt Giwer

What specfically is your problem?

In other words you _don't_ want copies of these old postings of yours.

I'm not surprised.

---
Scientology tries to disrupt terrorist attacks relief efforts: http://www.cosvm.org/
George W. Bush's latest policy: "No Child Left Untortured Act."

[Matt Giwer]

Post by Fredric L. Rice

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by Fredric L. Rice

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by Fredric L. Rice

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by Fredric L. Rice
"It is stupid little gooks that bother me. Go
stick it up your yellow ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete
and total gerbil smuggling sheep humper, and now
you've provided me with concrete evidence. It's
losers like that who give the rest of us godless
heathens a bad name." - Quentin Fai

Do Scientology teach you to invent lies like that?

You posted it in the HolySmoke echo anywhere from 10 to 15 years ago.
It's in the 1995 HolySmoke echo FAQ -- 9 years ago. And I archive
the echo against the day I acquire a gigabyte of web space to make it
all available. I suppose I _could_ write a program to go extract your
original posting. You sure you want me to do that and expose even
more of your unfortunate ideologies of that time?

What is Holysmoke?

It's a "sister" echo to the evolution echo. You used to post
to those two echos as well as a few others, most of them dating
from 10 years ago.
Bow down and worship the idol rather than learn. - Matt Giwer
Ring any bells?
You're in the HolySmoke archives and the evolution archives. Here's
a grep of them. If you're interested in having any of these files,
let me know and I would be happy to email them zipped up to you.
ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete and total gerbil
Matt Giwer Florida Abrasive
L> Matt Giwer Florida Abrasive
"One. (Matt Giwer)" - Scot Bear
ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete and total gerbil
Matt Giwer Florida Abrasive
"One. (Matt Giwer)" - Scot Bear
ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete and total gerbil
He also didn't tell us that his name pulls-up associations with right-wing
extremist organizations (such as the so-called "COMMITTEE FOR WACO
JUSTICE") and right-wing, racist extremist individuals (such as our own
beloved Matthew Giwer.)
"One. (Matt Giwer)" - Scot Bear
ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete and total gerbil
"One. (Matt Giwer)" - Scot Bear
ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete and total gerbil
Matt Giwer (c) 1995 <3/14>
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
~*~ Bow down and worship the idol rather than learn. - Matt Giwer
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
AG> Not worth the effort of nuking. I got Giwer to self-combust, but
AG> Not worth the effort of nuking. I got Giwer to self-combust, but
AG>> Not worth the effort of nuking. I got Giwer to
So he went to Controv, where I recruited Matt Giwer (I knew what
Then I went after Matt Giwer in alt.revisonism (Matt is an

Post by Matt Giwer
Then I went after Matt Giwer in alt.revisonism (Matt is an

AG> So he went to Controv, where I recruited Matt Giwer (I knew what
I was in Controv with Giwer and Muy Grosso. Your estimation of both seems
to be on the mark. Giwer had a web page which I looked up. He's an ugly
little pup. But he is an anti fundy. Not everyone is all bad.
AG> So he went to Controv, where I recruited Matt Giwer (I knew what
MG> I was in Controv with Giwer and Muy Grosso. Your
MG> estimation of both seems to be on the mark. Giwer had a web
I know that Giwer is in alt.revisionism and alt.conspiracy right now yet
PH> AG> Not worth the effort of nuking. I got Giwer to self-combust, but
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
~*~ Bow down and worship the idol rather than learn. - Matt Giwer
That he is; but I sometimes sit while my coffee cools and wonder what
exactly the Ooze from Oz is trying to prove. Laurlie has been tossed from
more conferences than even Matt Giwer, is more blatant in his insipidness
than Ron Stringfellow and as dishonest as Jimmy Swaggart caught red handed.
Is he *really* as stupid as his posts evidence? Does he derive his humor by
making a global ass of himself? Or, is he just a troll with a prolonged,
but seriously skewed, sense of the inane?
Sunday December 11 1994 02:49, rolling eyes, Matt Giwer mumbled to Kenneth
Matt Giwer and Rudzinsky got a reception that puts most fundy-bashing
~*~ Bow down and worship the idol rather than learn. - Matt Giwer
.... The nuclear family has been decaying for decades. -- Matt Giwer
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
-=> Quoting Matt Giwer to Doug Snead <=-
GD> ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ -=> Quoting Matt Giwer to Doug Snead <=-
GD> ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ -=> Quoting Matt Giwer to Doug Snead <=-
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
I've heard a great deal about another guy named Matt Giwer, but I don't
-> I've heard a great deal about another guy named Matt Giwer, but I don't
holocaust couldn't have happened. Giwer is a git.
-> -> I've heard a great deal about another guy named Matt Giwer, but I
don't
-> holocaust couldn't have happened. Giwer is a git.
That's what I've heard about Giwer.
ah> Our old "friend" Matt Giwer is doing his Holocaust denial act
AH>Our old "friend" Matt Giwer is doing his Holocaust denial act on
-> ah> Our old "friend" Matt Giwer is doing his Holocaust denial act
Giwer is like Tim Richardson, like a small plate.
You see, Giwer and Richardson have nothing but their hate.
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
GD>... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
Ah yes, Matt Giwer, one of the few people in Fido who tops Timmy the coward
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
GD> damn word of it." M. Giwer
Matt Giwer and Robert Weiland ("Minuteman") take that honor, as does
RS>Matt Giwer and Robert Weiland ("Minuteman") take that honor, as does
MG>RS>Matt Giwer and Robert Weiland ("Minuteman") take that honor, as
Giwer so that's saying a lot. It's not people like Karl that are killing
Well, at least _YOU_ don't share the same initials as Matt Giwer!
MG> Well, at least _YOU_ don't share the same initials as Matt Giwer!
JB>Giwer!
MG> Well, at least _YOU_ don't share the same initials as Matt Giwer!
WC>Giwer!
WC>Giwer!
WC> WC>Giwer!
MG> Well, at least _YOU_ don't share the same initials as Matt Giwer!
Well, just combine Asher and Matt Giwer, and you'll get Robert Weiland,
SA>MG> Well, at least _YOU_ don't share the same initials as Matt Giwer!
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
RS>Well, just combine Asher and Matt Giwer, and you'll get Robert
MG> CH>I don't know who Matt Giwer is.
MG>> CH>I don't know who Matt Giwer is.
KS> MG> CH>I don't know who Matt Giwer is.
probably one of the few who managed to NOT kick Matt Giwer out of an echo.
DO>probably one of the few who managed to NOT kick Matt Giwer out of an
echo.
I don't know who Matt Giwer is. But I have come, over time, to know Don
CH>I don't know who Matt Giwer is.
CH> DO>probably one of the few who managed to NOT kick Matt Giwer out of an
echo.
CH> I don't know who Matt Giwer is. But I have come, over time, to know Don
MG> CH>I don't know who Matt Giwer is.
CH>I don't know who Matt Giwer is.
RS>> wince just thinking about him. Matt Giwer.
RS> wince just thinking about him. Matt Giwer.
MG> RS> wince just thinking about him. Matt Giwer.
RS>MG> RS> wince just thinking about him. Matt Giwer.
thinking about him. Matt Giwer.
RS>thinking about him. Matt Giwer.
GD> ... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
GD> You didn't get the tagline: Giwer wasn't taking the bible literally.
RS> You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
GD> ... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
CH>Giwer
You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
RS> You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
CH>Giwer
RS> You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
GD> ... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
You didn't get the tagline: Giwer wasn't taking the bible literally.
KS> RS> You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
GD> ... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
GD> You didn't get the tagline: Giwer wasn't taking the bible literally.
RS> You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
CH> MG> Yeah, well _YOU_ don't share initials with Matt Giwer!
CH> MG> Yeah, well _YOU_ don't share initials with Matt Giwer!
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
GD> ... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
CH>Giwer
You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
RS> You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
CH>Giwer
RS> You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
GD> ... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
You didn't get the tagline: Giwer wasn't taking the bible literally.
KS> RS> You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
Thankfully the infamous MG (Giwer) has moved on to other venues (it's more
difficult to ban posters from usenet)
SQ>Not since Matt Giwer have we had such an interesting Jew-baiting
Not since Matt Giwer have we had such an interesting Jew-baiting troll.
Not many people here remember ol' Matt, so you've taken a few of us
old-timers on a trip down memory lane. We have plenty of evidence that the
Holocaust occurred, be it witness testimony, photographic evidence,
extracts from speeches given by Hitler, Goering, and Himmler, among other
things. You can find all kinds of little discrepancies and throw the baby
out with the bathwater, if you wish, but the facts all converge that Nazi
Germany systematically attempted and succeeded on a vast scale to
"ausrotten" European Jews. We may not have the bigger (biggest) picture,
but we ultimately have the effects.
RS> Giwer....<G>
RS> Giwer....<G>
Giwer....<G>
RS> Giwer....<G>
RS> Giwer....<G>
You mean Matt Giwer? That famed "holocaust" Revisionist?
RS>> Giwer....<G>
RS>> Giwer....<G>
IP> You mean Matt Giwer? That famed "holocaust" Revisionist?
|Sub: Matt Giwer^J|Date: 11 Jan 97 17:40:26^JEID:a3ff 222b8d00
Does anyone else here remember Matt Giwer? It seems he has acheived
noteriety on the Internet approaching that enjoyed by Steve Winter.
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/
|Sub: Matt Giwer^J|Date: 12 Jan 97 19:05:28^JEID:3025 222c98ae
dw> Does anyone else here remember Matt Giwer? It seems he has
dw> http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/
|Sub: Matt Giwer^J|Date: 13 Jan 97 14:05:10^JEID:9787 222d70a0
DW> Does anyone else here remember Matt Giwer?
|Sub: Matt Giwer^J|Date: 14 Jan 97 19:36:49^JEID:4d51 222e9c80
DW> Does anyone else here remember Matt Giwer? It seems he has
DW> http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/
|Sub: Matt Giwer^J|Date: 15 Jan 97 14:56:00^JEID:32ec 222f7700
DW> Does anyone else here remember Matt Giwer? It seems
DW> http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/
DW> Does anyone else here remember Matt Giwer?
|Sub: Matt Giwer^J|Date: 20 Jan 97 12:11:40^JEID:c4f8 22346174
DW> Does anyone else here remember Matt Giwer? It seems he has
DW> http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/
DW> Does anyone else here remember Matt Giwer?
So--who out there ever wondered what Matt Giwer would be like
"One. (Matt Giwer)" - Scot Bear
ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete and total gerbil
"One. (Matt Giwer)" - Scot Bear
ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete and total gerbil
~*~ Bow down and worship the idol rather than learn. - Matt Giwer
Matt Giwer is crazy as a loon, but he's not a fundy. he used to give the
deists here a lot of shit.
~*~ Bow down and worship the idol rather than learn. - Matt Giwer
got into a flame-match with Matt Giwer. He was told to shut up by another
co-
From: Matt Giwer
From: Matt Giwer
To: Matt Giwer
From: Matt Giwer
-=> Quoting Ken Wiens to Matt Giwer <=-
07-14-95 17:01JN>In a message to Matt Giwer on 12 Jul 94 09:57:00, Charlie
To: Matt Giwer
To: Matt Giwer
From: Matt Giwer
-> On 07-10-94 10:04, Andrew Ruys got back to Matt Giwer
-> On 07-09-94 11:30, Charlie Ray got back to Matt Giwer
-> On 07-10-94 23:28, Arthur Biele got back to Matt Giwer
-> On 07-09-94 11:41, Charlie Ray got back to Matt Giwer
On (16 Jul 94) Richard Rodriguez wrote to Matt Giwer...
To: Matt Giwer
RJ> Ruysius quoth Giwerius upon dyscourse of exasperation
To: Matt Giwer
-> On 07-13-94 22:32, Andrew Ruys got back to Matt Giwer
-> On 07-15-94 20:15, Lee Woofenden got back to Matt Giwer
To: Matt Giwer
Hello MATT GIWER...
Message from: MATT GIWER
To: Matt Giwer
Hello MATT GIWER...
Message from: MATT GIWER
To: Matt Giwer
On (04 Jul 94) Matt Giwer wrote to Preston Simpson...
To: Matt Giwer

What specfically is your problem?

In other words you _don't_ want copies of these old postings of yours.
I'm not surprised.

I asked a question. What is your answer? Do you post it only to fill
space or is there a point you are trying to make?

[Fredric L. Rice]

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by Fredric L. Rice

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by Fredric L. Rice

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by Fredric L. Rice

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by Fredric L. Rice
"It is stupid little gooks that bother me. Go
stick it up your yellow ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete
and total gerbil smuggling sheep humper, and now
you've provided me with concrete evidence. It's
losers like that who give the rest of us godless
heathens a bad name." - Quentin Fai

Do Scientology teach you to invent lies like that?

You posted it in the HolySmoke echo anywhere from 10 to 15 years ago.
It's in the 1995 HolySmoke echo FAQ -- 9 years ago. And I archive
the echo against the day I acquire a gigabyte of web space to make it
all available. I suppose I _could_ write a program to go extract your
original posting. You sure you want me to do that and expose even
more of your unfortunate ideologies of that time?

What is Holysmoke?

It's a "sister" echo to the evolution echo. You used to post
to those two echos as well as a few others, most of them dating
from 10 years ago.
Bow down and worship the idol rather than learn. - Matt Giwer
Ring any bells?
You're in the HolySmoke archives and the evolution archives. Here's
a grep of them. If you're interested in having any of these files,
let me know and I would be happy to email them zipped up to you.
ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete and total gerbil
Matt Giwer Florida Abrasive
L> Matt Giwer Florida Abrasive
"One. (Matt Giwer)" - Scot Bear
ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete and total gerbil
Matt Giwer Florida Abrasive
"One. (Matt Giwer)" - Scot Bear
ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete and total gerbil
He also didn't tell us that his name pulls-up associations with right-wing
extremist organizations (such as the so-called "COMMITTEE FOR WACO
JUSTICE") and right-wing, racist extremist individuals (such as our own
beloved Matthew Giwer.)
"One. (Matt Giwer)" - Scot Bear
ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete and total gerbil
"One. (Matt Giwer)" - Scot Bear
ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete and total gerbil
Matt Giwer (c) 1995 <3/14>
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
~*~ Bow down and worship the idol rather than learn. - Matt Giwer
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
AG> Not worth the effort of nuking. I got Giwer to self-combust, but
AG> Not worth the effort of nuking. I got Giwer to self-combust, but
AG>> Not worth the effort of nuking. I got Giwer to
So he went to Controv, where I recruited Matt Giwer (I knew what
Then I went after Matt Giwer in alt.revisonism (Matt is an

Post by Matt Giwer
Then I went after Matt Giwer in alt.revisonism (Matt is an

AG> So he went to Controv, where I recruited Matt Giwer (I knew what
I was in Controv with Giwer and Muy Grosso. Your estimation of both seems
to be on the mark. Giwer had a web page which I looked up. He's an ugly
little pup. But he is an anti fundy. Not everyone is all bad.
AG> So he went to Controv, where I recruited Matt Giwer (I knew what
MG> I was in Controv with Giwer and Muy Grosso. Your
MG> estimation of both seems to be on the mark. Giwer had a web
I know that Giwer is in alt.revisionism and alt.conspiracy right now yet
PH> AG> Not worth the effort of nuking. I got Giwer to self-combust, but
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
~*~ Bow down and worship the idol rather than learn. - Matt Giwer
That he is; but I sometimes sit while my coffee cools and wonder what
exactly the Ooze from Oz is trying to prove. Laurlie has been tossed from
more conferences than even Matt Giwer, is more blatant in his insipidness
than Ron Stringfellow and as dishonest as Jimmy Swaggart caught red handed.
Is he *really* as stupid as his posts evidence? Does he derive his humor by
making a global ass of himself? Or, is he just a troll with a prolonged,
but seriously skewed, sense of the inane?
Sunday December 11 1994 02:49, rolling eyes, Matt Giwer mumbled to Kenneth
Matt Giwer and Rudzinsky got a reception that puts most fundy-bashing
~*~ Bow down and worship the idol rather than learn. - Matt Giwer
.... The nuclear family has been decaying for decades. -- Matt Giwer
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
-=> Quoting Matt Giwer to Doug Snead <=-
GD> ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ -=> Quoting Matt Giwer to Doug Snead <=-
GD> ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ -=> Quoting Matt Giwer to Doug Snead <=-
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
I've heard a great deal about another guy named Matt Giwer, but I don't
-> I've heard a great deal about another guy named Matt Giwer, but I don't
holocaust couldn't have happened. Giwer is a git.
-> -> I've heard a great deal about another guy named Matt Giwer, but I
don't
-> holocaust couldn't have happened. Giwer is a git.
That's what I've heard about Giwer.
ah> Our old "friend" Matt Giwer is doing his Holocaust denial act
AH>Our old "friend" Matt Giwer is doing his Holocaust denial act on
-> ah> Our old "friend" Matt Giwer is doing his Holocaust denial act
Giwer is like Tim Richardson, like a small plate.
You see, Giwer and Richardson have nothing but their hate.
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
GD>... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
Ah yes, Matt Giwer, one of the few people in Fido who tops Timmy the coward
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
GD> damn word of it." M. Giwer
Matt Giwer and Robert Weiland ("Minuteman") take that honor, as does
RS>Matt Giwer and Robert Weiland ("Minuteman") take that honor, as does
MG>RS>Matt Giwer and Robert Weiland ("Minuteman") take that honor, as
Giwer so that's saying a lot. It's not people like Karl that are killing
Well, at least _YOU_ don't share the same initials as Matt Giwer!
MG> Well, at least _YOU_ don't share the same initials as Matt Giwer!
JB>Giwer!
MG> Well, at least _YOU_ don't share the same initials as Matt Giwer!
WC>Giwer!
WC>Giwer!
WC> WC>Giwer!
MG> Well, at least _YOU_ don't share the same initials as Matt Giwer!
Well, just combine Asher and Matt Giwer, and you'll get Robert Weiland,
SA>MG> Well, at least _YOU_ don't share the same initials as Matt Giwer!
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
RS>Well, just combine Asher and Matt Giwer, and you'll get Robert
MG> CH>I don't know who Matt Giwer is.
MG>> CH>I don't know who Matt Giwer is.
KS> MG> CH>I don't know who Matt Giwer is.
probably one of the few who managed to NOT kick Matt Giwer out of an echo.
DO>probably one of the few who managed to NOT kick Matt Giwer out of an
echo.
I don't know who Matt Giwer is. But I have come, over time, to know Don
CH>I don't know who Matt Giwer is.
CH> DO>probably one of the few who managed to NOT kick Matt Giwer out of an
echo.
CH> I don't know who Matt Giwer is. But I have come, over time, to know Don
MG> CH>I don't know who Matt Giwer is.
CH>I don't know who Matt Giwer is.
RS>> wince just thinking about him. Matt Giwer.
RS> wince just thinking about him. Matt Giwer.
MG> RS> wince just thinking about him. Matt Giwer.
RS>MG> RS> wince just thinking about him. Matt Giwer.
thinking about him. Matt Giwer.
RS>thinking about him. Matt Giwer.
GD> ... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
GD> You didn't get the tagline: Giwer wasn't taking the bible literally.
RS> You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
GD> ... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
CH>Giwer
You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
RS> You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
CH>Giwer
RS> You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
GD> ... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
You didn't get the tagline: Giwer wasn't taking the bible literally.
KS> RS> You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
GD> ... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
GD> You didn't get the tagline: Giwer wasn't taking the bible literally.
RS> You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
CH> MG> Yeah, well _YOU_ don't share initials with Matt Giwer!
CH> MG> Yeah, well _YOU_ don't share initials with Matt Giwer!
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
GD> ... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
CH>Giwer
You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
RS> You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
CH>Giwer
RS> You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
GD> ... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
You didn't get the tagline: Giwer wasn't taking the bible literally.
KS> RS> You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
Thankfully the infamous MG (Giwer) has moved on to other venues (it's more
difficult to ban posters from usenet)
SQ>Not since Matt Giwer have we had such an interesting Jew-baiting
Not since Matt Giwer have we had such an interesting Jew-baiting troll.
Not many people here remember ol' Matt, so you've taken a few of us
old-timers on a trip down memory lane. We have plenty of evidence that the
Holocaust occurred, be it witness testimony, photographic evidence,
extracts from speeches given by Hitler, Goering, and Himmler, among other
things. You can find all kinds of little discrepancies and throw the baby
out with the bathwater, if you wish, but the facts all converge that Nazi
Germany systematically attempted and succeeded on a vast scale to
"ausrotten" European Jews. We may not have the bigger (biggest) picture,
but we ultimately have the effects.
RS> Giwer....<G>
RS> Giwer....<G>
Giwer....<G>
RS> Giwer....<G>
RS> Giwer....<G>
You mean Matt Giwer? That famed "holocaust" Revisionist?
RS>> Giwer....<G>
RS>> Giwer....<G>
IP> You mean Matt Giwer? That famed "holocaust" Revisionist?
|Sub: Matt Giwer^J|Date: 11 Jan 97 17:40:26^JEID:a3ff 222b8d00
Does anyone else here remember Matt Giwer? It seems he has acheived
noteriety on the Internet approaching that enjoyed by Steve Winter.
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/
|Sub: Matt Giwer^J|Date: 12 Jan 97 19:05:28^JEID:3025 222c98ae
dw> Does anyone else here remember Matt Giwer? It seems he has
dw> http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/
|Sub: Matt Giwer^J|Date: 13 Jan 97 14:05:10^JEID:9787 222d70a0
DW> Does anyone else here remember Matt Giwer?
|Sub: Matt Giwer^J|Date: 14 Jan 97 19:36:49^JEID:4d51 222e9c80
DW> Does anyone else here remember Matt Giwer? It seems he has
DW> http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/
|Sub: Matt Giwer^J|Date: 15 Jan 97 14:56:00^JEID:32ec 222f7700
DW> Does anyone else here remember Matt Giwer? It seems
DW> http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/
DW> Does anyone else here remember Matt Giwer?
|Sub: Matt Giwer^J|Date: 20 Jan 97 12:11:40^JEID:c4f8 22346174
DW> Does anyone else here remember Matt Giwer? It seems he has
DW> http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/
DW> Does anyone else here remember Matt Giwer?
So--who out there ever wondered what Matt Giwer would be like
"One. (Matt Giwer)" - Scot Bear
ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete and total gerbil
"One. (Matt Giwer)" - Scot Bear
ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete and total gerbil
~*~ Bow down and worship the idol rather than learn. - Matt Giwer
Matt Giwer is crazy as a loon, but he's not a fundy. he used to give the
deists here a lot of shit.
~*~ Bow down and worship the idol rather than learn. - Matt Giwer
got into a flame-match with Matt Giwer. He was told to shut up by another
co-
From: Matt Giwer
From: Matt Giwer
To: Matt Giwer
From: Matt Giwer
-=> Quoting Ken Wiens to Matt Giwer <=-
07-14-95 17:01JN>In a message to Matt Giwer on 12 Jul 94 09:57:00, Charlie
To: Matt Giwer
To: Matt Giwer
From: Matt Giwer
-> On 07-10-94 10:04, Andrew Ruys got back to Matt Giwer
-> On 07-09-94 11:30, Charlie Ray got back to Matt Giwer
-> On 07-10-94 23:28, Arthur Biele got back to Matt Giwer
-> On 07-09-94 11:41, Charlie Ray got back to Matt Giwer
On (16 Jul 94) Richard Rodriguez wrote to Matt Giwer...
To: Matt Giwer
RJ> Ruysius quoth Giwerius upon dyscourse of exasperation
To: Matt Giwer
-> On 07-13-94 22:32, Andrew Ruys got back to Matt Giwer
-> On 07-15-94 20:15, Lee Woofenden got back to Matt Giwer
To: Matt Giwer
Hello MATT GIWER...
Message from: MATT GIWER
To: Matt Giwer
Hello MATT GIWER...
Message from: MATT GIWER
To: Matt Giwer
On (04 Jul 94) Matt Giwer wrote to Preston Simpson...
To: Matt Giwer

What specfically is your problem?

In other words you _don't_ want copies of these old postings of yours.
I'm not surprised.

I asked a question.

I asked you a question and you avoided it.

But never mind; I'll web your early stuff any way, if you don't mind.
<laugh> And even if you do. }:-}

---
Scientology tries to disrupt terrorist attacks relief efforts: http://www.cosvm.org/
George W. Bush's latest policy: "No Child Left Untortured Act."

[Matt Giwer]

Post by Fredric L. Rice

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by Fredric L. Rice

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by Fredric L. Rice

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by Fredric L. Rice

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by Fredric L. Rice
"It is stupid little gooks that bother me. Go
stick it up your yellow ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete
and total gerbil smuggling sheep humper, and now
you've provided me with concrete evidence. It's
losers like that who give the rest of us godless
heathens a bad name." - Quentin Fai

Do Scientology teach you to invent lies like that?

You posted it in the HolySmoke echo anywhere from 10 to 15 years ago.
It's in the 1995 HolySmoke echo FAQ -- 9 years ago. And I archive
the echo against the day I acquire a gigabyte of web space to make it
all available. I suppose I _could_ write a program to go extract your
original posting. You sure you want me to do that and expose even
more of your unfortunate ideologies of that time?

What is Holysmoke?

It's a "sister" echo to the evolution echo. You used to post
to those two echos as well as a few others, most of them dating
from 10 years ago.
Bow down and worship the idol rather than learn. - Matt Giwer
Ring any bells?
You're in the HolySmoke archives and the evolution archives. Here's
a grep of them. If you're interested in having any of these files,
let me know and I would be happy to email them zipped up to you.
ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete and total gerbil
Matt Giwer Florida Abrasive
L> Matt Giwer Florida Abrasive
"One. (Matt Giwer)" - Scot Bear
ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete and total gerbil
Matt Giwer Florida Abrasive
"One. (Matt Giwer)" - Scot Bear
ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete and total gerbil
He also didn't tell us that his name pulls-up associations with right-wing
extremist organizations (such as the so-called "COMMITTEE FOR WACO
JUSTICE") and right-wing, racist extremist individuals (such as our own
beloved Matthew Giwer.)
"One. (Matt Giwer)" - Scot Bear
ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete and total gerbil
"One. (Matt Giwer)" - Scot Bear
ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete and total gerbil
Matt Giwer (c) 1995 <3/14>
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
~*~ Bow down and worship the idol rather than learn. - Matt Giwer
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
AG> Not worth the effort of nuking. I got Giwer to self-combust, but
AG> Not worth the effort of nuking. I got Giwer to self-combust, but
AG>> Not worth the effort of nuking. I got Giwer to
So he went to Controv, where I recruited Matt Giwer (I knew what
Then I went after Matt Giwer in alt.revisonism (Matt is an

Post by Matt Giwer
Then I went after Matt Giwer in alt.revisonism (Matt is an

AG> So he went to Controv, where I recruited Matt Giwer (I knew what
I was in Controv with Giwer and Muy Grosso. Your estimation of both seems
to be on the mark. Giwer had a web page which I looked up. He's an ugly
little pup. But he is an anti fundy. Not everyone is all bad.
AG> So he went to Controv, where I recruited Matt Giwer (I knew what
MG> I was in Controv with Giwer and Muy Grosso. Your
MG> estimation of both seems to be on the mark. Giwer had a web
I know that Giwer is in alt.revisionism and alt.conspiracy right now yet
PH> AG> Not worth the effort of nuking. I got Giwer to self-combust, but
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
~*~ Bow down and worship the idol rather than learn. - Matt Giwer
That he is; but I sometimes sit while my coffee cools and wonder what
exactly the Ooze from Oz is trying to prove. Laurlie has been tossed from
more conferences than even Matt Giwer, is more blatant in his insipidness
than Ron Stringfellow and as dishonest as Jimmy Swaggart caught red handed.
Is he *really* as stupid as his posts evidence? Does he derive his humor by
making a global ass of himself? Or, is he just a troll with a prolonged,
but seriously skewed, sense of the inane?
Sunday December 11 1994 02:49, rolling eyes, Matt Giwer mumbled to Kenneth
Matt Giwer and Rudzinsky got a reception that puts most fundy-bashing
~*~ Bow down and worship the idol rather than learn. - Matt Giwer
.... The nuclear family has been decaying for decades. -- Matt Giwer
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
-=> Quoting Matt Giwer to Doug Snead <=-
GD> ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ -=> Quoting Matt Giwer to Doug Snead <=-
GD> ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ -=> Quoting Matt Giwer to Doug Snead <=-
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
I've heard a great deal about another guy named Matt Giwer, but I don't
-> I've heard a great deal about another guy named Matt Giwer, but I don't
holocaust couldn't have happened. Giwer is a git.
-> -> I've heard a great deal about another guy named Matt Giwer, but I
don't
-> holocaust couldn't have happened. Giwer is a git.
That's what I've heard about Giwer.
ah> Our old "friend" Matt Giwer is doing his Holocaust denial act
AH>Our old "friend" Matt Giwer is doing his Holocaust denial act on
-> ah> Our old "friend" Matt Giwer is doing his Holocaust denial act
Giwer is like Tim Richardson, like a small plate.
You see, Giwer and Richardson have nothing but their hate.
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
GD>... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
Ah yes, Matt Giwer, one of the few people in Fido who tops Timmy the coward
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
GD> damn word of it." M. Giwer
Matt Giwer and Robert Weiland ("Minuteman") take that honor, as does
RS>Matt Giwer and Robert Weiland ("Minuteman") take that honor, as does
MG>RS>Matt Giwer and Robert Weiland ("Minuteman") take that honor, as
Giwer so that's saying a lot. It's not people like Karl that are killing
Well, at least _YOU_ don't share the same initials as Matt Giwer!
MG> Well, at least _YOU_ don't share the same initials as Matt Giwer!
JB>Giwer!
MG> Well, at least _YOU_ don't share the same initials as Matt Giwer!
WC>Giwer!
WC>Giwer!
WC> WC>Giwer!
MG> Well, at least _YOU_ don't share the same initials as Matt Giwer!
Well, just combine Asher and Matt Giwer, and you'll get Robert Weiland,
SA>MG> Well, at least _YOU_ don't share the same initials as Matt Giwer!
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
RS>Well, just combine Asher and Matt Giwer, and you'll get Robert
MG> CH>I don't know who Matt Giwer is.
MG>> CH>I don't know who Matt Giwer is.
KS> MG> CH>I don't know who Matt Giwer is.
probably one of the few who managed to NOT kick Matt Giwer out of an echo.
DO>probably one of the few who managed to NOT kick Matt Giwer out of an
echo.
I don't know who Matt Giwer is. But I have come, over time, to know Don
CH>I don't know who Matt Giwer is.
CH> DO>probably one of the few who managed to NOT kick Matt Giwer out of an
echo.
CH> I don't know who Matt Giwer is. But I have come, over time, to know Don
MG> CH>I don't know who Matt Giwer is.
CH>I don't know who Matt Giwer is.
RS>> wince just thinking about him. Matt Giwer.
RS> wince just thinking about him. Matt Giwer.
MG> RS> wince just thinking about him. Matt Giwer.
RS>MG> RS> wince just thinking about him. Matt Giwer.
thinking about him. Matt Giwer.
RS>thinking about him. Matt Giwer.
GD> ... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
GD> You didn't get the tagline: Giwer wasn't taking the bible literally.
RS> You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
GD> ... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
CH>Giwer
You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
RS> You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
CH>Giwer
RS> You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
GD> ... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
You didn't get the tagline: Giwer wasn't taking the bible literally.
KS> RS> You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
GD> ... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
GD> You didn't get the tagline: Giwer wasn't taking the bible literally.
RS> You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
CH> MG> Yeah, well _YOU_ don't share initials with Matt Giwer!
CH> MG> Yeah, well _YOU_ don't share initials with Matt Giwer!
.... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
GD> ... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
CH>Giwer
You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
RS> You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
CH>Giwer
RS> You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
GD> ... "I stand on the bible as written, every damn word of it." M. Giwer
You didn't get the tagline: Giwer wasn't taking the bible literally.
KS> RS> You also have to understand the mindset of this Matt Giwer, also.
Thankfully the infamous MG (Giwer) has moved on to other venues (it's more
difficult to ban posters from usenet)
SQ>Not since Matt Giwer have we had such an interesting Jew-baiting
Not since Matt Giwer have we had such an interesting Jew-baiting troll.
Not many people here remember ol' Matt, so you've taken a few of us
old-timers on a trip down memory lane. We have plenty of evidence that the
Holocaust occurred, be it witness testimony, photographic evidence,
extracts from speeches given by Hitler, Goering, and Himmler, among other
things. You can find all kinds of little discrepancies and throw the baby
out with the bathwater, if you wish, but the facts all converge that Nazi
Germany systematically attempted and succeeded on a vast scale to
"ausrotten" European Jews. We may not have the bigger (biggest) picture,
but we ultimately have the effects.
RS> Giwer....<G>
RS> Giwer....<G>
Giwer....<G>
RS> Giwer....<G>
RS> Giwer....<G>
You mean Matt Giwer? That famed "holocaust" Revisionist?
RS>> Giwer....<G>
RS>> Giwer....<G>
IP> You mean Matt Giwer? That famed "holocaust" Revisionist?
|Sub: Matt Giwer^J|Date: 11 Jan 97 17:40:26^JEID:a3ff 222b8d00
Does anyone else here remember Matt Giwer? It seems he has acheived
noteriety on the Internet approaching that enjoyed by Steve Winter.
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/
|Sub: Matt Giwer^J|Date: 12 Jan 97 19:05:28^JEID:3025 222c98ae
dw> Does anyone else here remember Matt Giwer? It seems he has
dw> http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/
|Sub: Matt Giwer^J|Date: 13 Jan 97 14:05:10^JEID:9787 222d70a0
DW> Does anyone else here remember Matt Giwer?
|Sub: Matt Giwer^J|Date: 14 Jan 97 19:36:49^JEID:4d51 222e9c80
DW> Does anyone else here remember Matt Giwer? It seems he has
DW> http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/
|Sub: Matt Giwer^J|Date: 15 Jan 97 14:56:00^JEID:32ec 222f7700
DW> Does anyone else here remember Matt Giwer? It seems
DW> http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/
DW> Does anyone else here remember Matt Giwer?
|Sub: Matt Giwer^J|Date: 20 Jan 97 12:11:40^JEID:c4f8 22346174
DW> Does anyone else here remember Matt Giwer? It seems he has
DW> http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/
DW> Does anyone else here remember Matt Giwer?
So--who out there ever wondered what Matt Giwer would be like
"One. (Matt Giwer)" - Scot Bear
ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete and total gerbil
"One. (Matt Giwer)" - Scot Bear
ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete and total gerbil
~*~ Bow down and worship the idol rather than learn. - Matt Giwer
Matt Giwer is crazy as a loon, but he's not a fundy. he used to give the
deists here a lot of shit.
~*~ Bow down and worship the idol rather than learn. - Matt Giwer
got into a flame-match with Matt Giwer. He was told to shut up by another
co-
From: Matt Giwer
From: Matt Giwer
To: Matt Giwer
From: Matt Giwer
-=> Quoting Ken Wiens to Matt Giwer <=-
07-14-95 17:01JN>In a message to Matt Giwer on 12 Jul 94 09:57:00, Charlie
To: Matt Giwer
To: Matt Giwer
From: Matt Giwer
-> On 07-10-94 10:04, Andrew Ruys got back to Matt Giwer
-> On 07-09-94 11:30, Charlie Ray got back to Matt Giwer
-> On 07-10-94 23:28, Arthur Biele got back to Matt Giwer
-> On 07-09-94 11:41, Charlie Ray got back to Matt Giwer
On (16 Jul 94) Richard Rodriguez wrote to Matt Giwer...
To: Matt Giwer
RJ> Ruysius quoth Giwerius upon dyscourse of exasperation
To: Matt Giwer
-> On 07-13-94 22:32, Andrew Ruys got back to Matt Giwer
-> On 07-15-94 20:15, Lee Woofenden got back to Matt Giwer
To: Matt Giwer
Hello MATT GIWER...
Message from: MATT GIWER
To: Matt Giwer
Hello MATT GIWER...
Message from: MATT GIWER
To: Matt Giwer
On (04 Jul 94) Matt Giwer wrote to Preston Simpson...
To: Matt Giwer

What specfically is your problem?

In other words you _don't_ want copies of these old postings of yours.
I'm not surprised.

I asked a question.

I asked you a question and you avoided it.
But never mind; I'll web your early stuff any way, if you don't mind.
<laugh> And even if you do. }:-}

Where are the Clearwater crime statistics you promised?

[lensman1955]

Post by Matt Giwer
What specfically is your problem?
Where are the Clearwater crimes statistics?

What do Clearwater crime statistics have to do with you writing
"stupid little gooks"? Other than to avoid answering the questions!

[Matt Giwer]

Post by lensman1955

Post by Matt Giwer
What specfically is your problem?
Where are the Clearwater crimes statistics?

What do Clearwater crime statistics

I called the silly boys bluff pointing out he was not making his case
on that subject. Rather than learn statistics and do the legwork and
reminding him I would continue to ask for the statistics. If you would
follow the newsgroup you would not be asking dumb questions.

Post by lensman1955
have to do with you writing
"stupid little gooks"? Other than to avoid answering the questions!

Where do you see any evidence I wrote that? and if I did happen to do
so what is the context? And I ask you, what is the problem with
writing that? It is what the Koreans use to refer to themselves mainly
because there are so many Kims. Simply because some ignorant shits
decide it doesn't sound nice does not mean anyone is obligated to take
their idiocy seriously.

[Fredric L. Rice]

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by lensman1955

Post by Matt Giwer
What specfically is your problem?
Where are the Clearwater crimes statistics?

What do Clearwater crime statistics

I called the silly boys bluff pointing out he was not making his case
on that subject.

And you got your fucking head handed to you, yep. So much so
you couldn't address your own comment you made ten years ago
about "stupid little gooks."

---
Scientology tries to disrupt terrorist attacks relief efforts: http://www.cosvm.org/
"Bush is doing what's necessary to keep the military in top form." -- David Wilson
"Top form for an S&M porno." == Jingo

[Matt Giwer]

Post by Fredric L. Rice

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by lensman1955

Post by Matt Giwer
What specfically is your problem?
Where are the Clearwater crimes statistics?

What do Clearwater crime statistics

I called the silly boys bluff pointing out he was not making his case
on that subject.

And you got your fucking head handed to you, yep. So much so
you couldn't address your own comment you made ten years ago
about "stupid little gooks."

I am still awaiting the pre and post Scientologists in Clearwater
statistics differenciated from surrounding jurisdictions and
accounting for state and national trends in crime. I'm sure many
people are waiting for you to post it.

Think of learning statistics as a matter of personal enrichment.

[George]

Post by Fredric L. Rice

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by Fredric L. Rice
"It is stupid little gooks that bother me. Go
stick it up your yellow ass." - Matt Giwer
"I always suspected that Mr. Giwer was a complete
and total gerbil smuggling sheep humper, and now
you've provided me with concrete evidence. It's
losers like that who give the rest of us godless
heathens a bad name." - Quentin Fai

Do Scientology teach you to invent lies like that?

You posted it in the HolySmoke echo anywhere from 10 to 15 years ago.
It's in the 1995 HolySmoke echo FAQ -- 9 years ago. And I archive
the echo against the day I acquire a gigabyte of web space to make it
all available. I suppose I _could_ write a program to go extract your
original posting. You sure you want me to do that and expose even
more of your unfortunate ideologies of that time?

And, if you go back far enough, you'll come across the filth he posted on Fidonet

[dudalb]

Fred Rice vs. Matt Giwer....Duel Of The Kooks!
I am 100% for Rice...at least he is not a fucking Nazi.