Evolution Debunked: Darwinism's Downfall

John Locke

2016-10-17 05:27:40 UTC

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

Evolution theory is a proven fact of nature and you
can't debunk nature. Creationism/ID, on the other hand, has been
examined and debunked by every credible research center and university
on the planet. And by the way, there's no such thing as "Darwinism".

Andrew

2016-10-17 05:50:39 UTC

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

Evolution theory is a proven fact of nature and you
can't debunk nature.

No, you're thinking of Mendelian genetics, which has
nothing to do with the "goo to you" evolution story
that has deceived the gullible masses.

Post by John Locke
Creationism/ID, on the other hand, has been examined
and debunked by every credible research center and
university on the planet.

No.

Post by John Locke
And by the way, there's no such thing as "Darwinism".

But it was a 'phantasy', exactly as Charlie had suspected
all along.

Gordon

2016-10-17 14:17:32 UTC

On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:27:40 -0700, John Locke

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

And, God created the natural laws that govern the evolutionary
processes that Darwin identified for us. Why would God not have used
these evolutionary laws to achieve the development of all life forms
on this planet? Gordon

Christopher A. Lee

2016-10-17 14:21:40 UTC

Post by Gordon
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:27:40 -0700, John Locke

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

Either prove this mindless bullshit or shove it up your arse.

Davej

2016-10-17 15:10:32 UTC

Post by Gordon
[...]
And, God created the natural laws that govern the evolutionary
processes that Darwin identified for us. Why would God not have
used these evolutionary laws to achieve the development of all
life forms on this planet? Gordon

This doesn't satisfy the childish Fundamentalists who insist
that God is a trickster who created various fake evidence to
test their resolve in believing only the Holy Bible.

Christopher A. Lee

2016-10-17 15:12:53 UTC

Post by Davej

This doesn't satisfy the childish Fundamentalists who insist
that God is a trickster who created various fake evidence to
test their resolve in believing only the Holy Bible.

Where did he demonstrate this hypothetical god before claiming it did
anything at all - in, of all places, an atheist group?

Jeanne Douglas

2016-10-17 16:00:36 UTC

Post by Gordon
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:27:40 -0700, John Locke

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

And, God created the natural laws

Sez who? Based on what evidence?

--
JD

"It's not even that the man lies; it's more like he
rejects the idea that the point of language is to
describe reality."--Desi Lydic, TDS on Trump

Mitchell Holman

2016-10-17 17:33:56 UTC

Post by Gordon
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:27:40 -0700, John Locke

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

That means your god is responsible all the
diseases and parasites we live with today, no?

Why would he do such a thing?

Andrew

2016-10-17 19:09:53 UTC

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

That means your god is responsible all the
diseases and parasites we live with today, no?

No, first of all because there is no 'god'.....and
secondly because diseases and death are effects
from the Fall which are temporary.

W.T.S., cc4-The Lamp of Golden Truth!*

2016-10-17 21:20:49 UTC

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

Evolution theory is a proven fact of nature and you
can't debunk nature. Creationism/ID, on the other hand, has been
examined and debunked by every credible research center and
university on the planet. And by the way, there's no such thing as
"Darwinism".

That means your god is responsible all the
diseases and parasites we live with today, no?

No, first of all because there is no 'god'.....and
secondly because diseases and death are effects
from the Fall which are temporary.

<https://sphericalbullshit.wordpress.com/2013/05/02/what-i-would-say-to-
creationists-if-i-was-more-of-a-dick/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zascach>

<https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK6360/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zvyyhxn>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_replication>

<http://tinyurl.com/goxgec9>

<https://edthemanicstreetpreacher.wordpress.com/2010/04/09/dawkins-
berlinski/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zmv3xf2>

<https://www.theguardian.com/science/head-quarters/2014/feb/06/22-
answers-creationism-evolution-bill-nye-ken-ham-debate>

<http://tinyurl.com/hwjf83d>

<http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/dumb-things-creationists-
say/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zq9wt5k>

<http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/20/magazine/unintelligent-design.html?
_r=0>

<http://tinyurl.com/h7ubjta>

<http://www.eoht.info/page/Creationism+scientists+ranked+by+idiocy>

<http://tinyurl.com/h5y2gao>

<https://www.chess.com/groups/forumview/18-creationist-arguments-
debunked>

<http://tinyurl.com/zb7sfyr>

<http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Category:Creationism>

<http://tinyurl.com/zt8dycq>

<https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/jan/28/creation-origin-life-
future-adam-rutherford-review>

<http://tinyurl.com/hsj6u6y>

<http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2016/06/07/what-do-physicists-
think-of-michio-kaku/>

<http://tinyurl.com/j32bskg>

<http://undsci.berkeley.edu/article/howscienceworks_16>

<http://tinyurl.com/3p4e7mx>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Darwin>

<http://tinyurl.com/jyzjfar>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregor_Mendel>

<http://tinyurl.com/pcqylyj>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution>

<http://tinyurl.com/7vw8ozk>

<http://www.famousscientists.org/charles-darwin/>

<http://tinyurl.com/jpr7p5v>

<http://darwin-online.org.uk/biography.html>

<http://tinyurl.com/5p6znj>

"Creation science" has not entered the curriculum for a reason so
simple and so basic that we often forget to mention it: because it is
false, and because good teachers understand exactly why it is false.
What could be more destructive of that most fragile yet most precious
commodity in our entire intellectual heritage -- good teaching -- than
a bill forcing honourable teachers to sully their sacred trust by
granting equal treatment to a doctrine not only known to be false, but
calculated to undermine any general understanding of science as an
enterprise? - Stephen Jay Gould.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Jay_Gould>

<http://tinyurl.com/jc3ckub>

<http://www.journals.elsevier.com/journal-of-human-evolution>

<http://tinyurl.com/jsalxfe>

<http://www.annualreviews.org/journal/ecolsys>

<http://tinyurl.com/z8o6zan>

<http://www.cell.com/trends/ecology-evolution/home>

<http://tinyurl.com/pwg6fak>

http://youtu.be/F1ibEaIPtMk

<http://tinyurl.com/hy7xymb>

<http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Falldidit#Falldidit>

<http://tinyurl.com/z4z77ra>

Gordon

2016-10-17 21:13:41 UTC

On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:33:56 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:27:40 -0700, John Locke

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

That means your god is responsible all the
diseases and parasites we live with today, no?
Why would he do such a thing?

Not directly, but in a sense, yes, God is responsible. That is, God
allowed Lucifer/Satan and the fallen angels to explore all the
vagaries of sin and rebellion, using us humans as lab rats, so to
speak. The primary objective was to bring us through a learning phase
that would assure God that none of us would ever fall away like
Lucifer and the fallen angels did, once we've been granted immortality
and absolute sovereignty. Gordon

Mitchell Holman

2016-10-18 01:44:14 UTC

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:33:56 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:27:40 -0700, John Locke

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

That means your god is responsible all the
diseases and parasites we live with today, no?
Why would he do such a thing?

So a child born with Downs Syndrome is just
a "learning phase"? What does she learn from it?

Gordon

2016-10-18 12:07:47 UTC

On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:44:14 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:33:56 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:27:40 -0700, John Locke

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

That means your god is responsible all the
diseases and parasites we live with today, no?
Why would he do such a thing?

So a child born with Downs Syndrome is just
a "learning phase"? What does she learn from it?

She may not learn anything, but others surely will. Learning,
individually and collectively, about the effects of all forms of sin
and rebellion is the objective. Without this learning we would not be
suitable for immortality and absolute sovereignty. That is, we would
likely all fall away just as Lucifer and the fallen angels did in
their quest for understanding and opportunities that might be
available to them if they turned away from God and went their own way.
Gordon

Mitchell Holman

2016-10-18 12:19:12 UTC

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:44:14 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:33:56 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:27:40 -0700, John Locke

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

Evolution theory is a proven fact of nature and you
can't debunk nature. Creationism/ID, on the other hand, has been
examined and debunked by every credible research center and
university on the planet. And by the way, there's no such thing as
"Darwinism".

And, God created the natural laws that govern the evolutionary
processes that Darwin identified for us. Why would God not have
used these evolutionary laws to achieve the development of all
life forms on this planet? Gordon

That means your god is responsible all the
diseases and parasites we live with today, no?
Why would he do such a thing?

Not directly, but in a sense, yes, God is responsible. That is, God
allowed Lucifer/Satan and the fallen angels to explore all the
vagaries of sin and rebellion, using us humans as lab rats, so to
speak. The primary objective was to bring us through a learning
phase that would assure God that none of us would ever fall away
like Lucifer and the fallen angels did, once we've been granted
immortality and absolute sovereignty. Gordon

So a child born with Downs Syndrome is just
a "learning phase"? What does she learn from it?

She may not learn anything, but others surely will. Learning,
individually and collectively, about the effects of all forms of sin
and rebellion is the objective.

What sin is a Downs child being for?

Jeanne Douglas

2016-10-18 14:13:49 UTC

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:44:14 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:33:56 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:27:40 -0700, John Locke

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

Evolution theory is a proven fact of nature and you
can't debunk nature. Creationism/ID, on the other hand, has been
examined and debunked by every credible research center and
university on the planet. And by the way, there's no such thing as
"Darwinism".

And, God created the natural laws that govern the evolutionary
processes that Darwin identified for us. Why would God not have
used these evolutionary laws to achieve the development of all
life forms on this planet? Gordon

That means your god is responsible all the
diseases and parasites we live with today, no?
Why would he do such a thing?

Not directly, but in a sense, yes, God is responsible. That is, God
allowed Lucifer/Satan and the fallen angels to explore all the
vagaries of sin and rebellion, using us humans as lab rats, so to
speak. The primary objective was to bring us through a learning
phase that would assure God that none of us would ever fall away
like Lucifer and the fallen angels did, once we've been granted
immortality and absolute sovereignty. Gordon

So a child born with Downs Syndrome is just
a "learning phase"? What does she learn from it?

She may not learn anything, but others surely will. Learning,
individually and collectively, about the effects of all forms of sin
and rebellion is the objective.

What sin is a Downs child being for?

She's not. That's the point. She's being punished for something someone
else did.

--
JD

"It's not even that the man lies; it's more like he
rejects the idea that the point of language is to
describe reality."--Desi Lydic, TDS on Trump

Gordon

2016-10-18 16:39:12 UTC

On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 07:13:49 -0700, Jeanne Douglas

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:44:14 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:33:56 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:27:40 -0700, John Locke

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

Evolution theory is a proven fact of nature and you
can't debunk nature. Creationism/ID, on the other hand, has been
examined and debunked by every credible research center and
university on the planet. And by the way, there's no such thing as
"Darwinism".

And, God created the natural laws that govern the evolutionary
processes that Darwin identified for us. Why would God not have
used these evolutionary laws to achieve the development of all
life forms on this planet? Gordon

That means your god is responsible all the
diseases and parasites we live with today, no?
Why would he do such a thing?

Not directly, but in a sense, yes, God is responsible. That is, God
allowed Lucifer/Satan and the fallen angels to explore all the
vagaries of sin and rebellion, using us humans as lab rats, so to
speak. The primary objective was to bring us through a learning
phase that would assure God that none of us would ever fall away
like Lucifer and the fallen angels did, once we've been granted
immortality and absolute sovereignty. Gordon

So a child born with Downs Syndrome is just
a "learning phase"? What does she learn from it?

She may not learn anything, but others surely will. Learning,
individually and collectively, about the effects of all forms of sin
and rebellion is the objective.

What sin is a Downs child being for?

She's not. That's the point. She's being punished for something someone
else did.

She isn't actually being punished. She was given this "cross to bear"
in order that the rest of us could learn more about the cumulative
effects of sins such as those which caused this.

Christopher A. Lee

2016-10-18 17:09:24 UTC

Post by Gordon
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 07:13:49 -0700, Jeanne Douglas

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:44:14 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:33:56 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:27:40 -0700, John Locke

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

Evolution theory is a proven fact of nature and you
can't debunk nature. Creationism/ID, on the other hand, has been
examined and debunked by every credible research center and
university on the planet. And by the way, there's no such thing as
"Darwinism".

And, God created the natural laws that govern the evolutionary
processes that Darwin identified for us. Why would God not have
used these evolutionary laws to achieve the development of all
life forms on this planet? Gordon

That means your god is responsible all the
diseases and parasites we live with today, no?
Why would he do such a thing?

Not directly, but in a sense, yes, God is responsible. That is, God
allowed Lucifer/Satan and the fallen angels to explore all the
vagaries of sin and rebellion, using us humans as lab rats, so to
speak. The primary objective was to bring us through a learning
phase that would assure God that none of us would ever fall away
like Lucifer and the fallen angels did, once we've been granted
immortality and absolute sovereignty. Gordon

So a child born with Downs Syndrome is just
a "learning phase"? What does she learn from it?

She may not learn anything, but others surely will. Learning,
individually and collectively, about the effects of all forms of sin
and rebellion is the objective.

What sin is a Downs child being for?

She's not. That's the point. She's being punished for something someone
else did.

She isn't actually being punished. She was given this "cross to bear"
in order that the rest of us could learn more about the cumulative
effects of sins such as those which caused this.

Lying idiot.

Jeanne Douglas

2016-10-18 19:36:12 UTC

Post by Gordon
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 07:13:49 -0700, Jeanne Douglas

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:44:14 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:33:56 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:27:40 -0700, John Locke

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

Evolution theory is a proven fact of nature and you
can't debunk nature. Creationism/ID, on the other hand, has been
examined and debunked by every credible research center and
university on the planet. And by the way, there's no such thing as
"Darwinism".

And, God created the natural laws that govern the evolutionary
processes that Darwin identified for us. Why would God not have
used these evolutionary laws to achieve the development of all
life forms on this planet? Gordon

That means your god is responsible all the
diseases and parasites we live with today, no?
Why would he do such a thing?

Not directly, but in a sense, yes, God is responsible. That is, God
allowed Lucifer/Satan and the fallen angels to explore all the
vagaries of sin and rebellion, using us humans as lab rats, so to
speak. The primary objective was to bring us through a learning
phase that would assure God that none of us would ever fall away
like Lucifer and the fallen angels did, once we've been granted
immortality and absolute sovereignty. Gordon

So a child born with Downs Syndrome is just
a "learning phase"? What does she learn from it?

She may not learn anything, but others surely will. Learning,
individually and collectively, about the effects of all forms of sin
and rebellion is the objective.

What sin is a Downs child being for?

She's not. That's the point. She's being punished for something someone
else did.

She isn't actually being punished. She was given this "cross to bear"

In other words, being punished by a monster for something someone else
did. There's no way you can get away from this fact, no lie you can tell
yourself to convince you deep down that this is the act of a monster and
we'd all be better off acknowledging that no such monster exists and
never did.

--
JD

"It's not even that the man lies; it's more like he
rejects the idea that the point of language is to
describe reality."--Desi Lydic, TDS on Trump

Mitchell Holman

2016-10-19 01:53:03 UTC

Post by Gordon
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 07:13:49 -0700, Jeanne Douglas

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:44:14 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:33:56 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:27:40 -0700, John Locke

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

Evolution theory is a proven fact of nature and you
can't debunk nature. Creationism/ID, on the other hand, has
been examined and debunked by every credible research center
and university on the planet. And by the way, there's no such
thing as "Darwinism".

And, God created the natural laws that govern the evolutionary
processes that Darwin identified for us. Why would God not
have used these evolutionary laws to achieve the development
of all life forms on this planet? Gordon

That means your god is responsible all the
diseases and parasites we live with today, no?
Why would he do such a thing?

Not directly, but in a sense, yes, God is responsible. That is,
God allowed Lucifer/Satan and the fallen angels to explore all
the vagaries of sin and rebellion, using us humans as lab rats,
so to speak. The primary objective was to bring us through a
learning phase that would assure God that none of us would ever
fall away like Lucifer and the fallen angels did, once we've
been granted immortality and absolute sovereignty. Gordon

So a child born with Downs Syndrome is just
a "learning phase"? What does she learn from it?

She may not learn anything, but others surely will. Learning,
individually and collectively, about the effects of all forms of
sin and rebellion is the objective.

What sin is a Downs child being for?

She's not. That's the point. She's being punished for something
someone else did.

She isn't actually being punished. She was given this "cross to bear"
in order that the rest of us could learn more about the cumulative
effects of sins such as those which caused this.

That makes no sense. If her condition is not a
punishment then "the effect of sin" has nothing to
do with it. No?

Gordon

2016-10-19 15:05:27 UTC

On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 20:53:03 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 07:13:49 -0700, Jeanne Douglas

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:44:14 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:33:56 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:27:40 -0700, John Locke

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

Evolution theory is a proven fact of nature and you
can't debunk nature. Creationism/ID, on the other hand, has
been examined and debunked by every credible research center
and university on the planet. And by the way, there's no such
thing as "Darwinism".

And, God created the natural laws that govern the evolutionary
processes that Darwin identified for us. Why would God not
have used these evolutionary laws to achieve the development
of all life forms on this planet? Gordon

That means your god is responsible all the
diseases and parasites we live with today, no?
Why would he do such a thing?

Not directly, but in a sense, yes, God is responsible. That is,
God allowed Lucifer/Satan and the fallen angels to explore all
the vagaries of sin and rebellion, using us humans as lab rats,
so to speak. The primary objective was to bring us through a
learning phase that would assure God that none of us would ever
fall away like Lucifer and the fallen angels did, once we've
been granted immortality and absolute sovereignty. Gordon

So a child born with Downs Syndrome is just
a "learning phase"? What does she learn from it?

She may not learn anything, but others surely will. Learning,
individually and collectively, about the effects of all forms of
sin and rebellion is the objective.

What sin is a Downs child being for?

She's not. That's the point. She's being punished for something
someone else did.

She isn't actually being punished. She was given this "cross to bear"
in order that the rest of us could learn more about the cumulative
effects of sins such as those which caused this.

That makes no sense. If her condition is not a
punishment then "the effect of sin" has nothing to
do with it. No?

Wrong! Her condition and the related suffering is the result of
Satan's messing around with all forms of sin and rebellion. Totally
innocent people can be affected and suffer greatly from Satan's
activities but they are not necessarily guilty in the causal realm.

God has allowed Satan to explore all the vagaries of sin and rebellion
and God has set us humans up for the individual and collective
learning that will result. The end goal is to mature us to a level of
knowledge in this realm such that we will never, ever want to go back
and mess around with any form of sin and rebellion once we've been
promoted to immortality and absolute sovereignty.

Without this learning process, most, or perhaps all of us would fall
away from God just as Lucifer and the fallen angels did. They had no
direct learning or understanding of things in the realm of sin and
rebellion but were overwhelmed with curiosity, just as we would be
under similar circumstances.

Suffering the effects of sin for seventy years, more or less, is a
miniscule span of time compared to eternity. The end rewards will be
far more than the price we are now paying. Gordon

Christopher A. Lee

2016-10-19 15:11:30 UTC

Post by Gordon
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 20:53:03 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 07:13:49 -0700, Jeanne Douglas

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:44:14 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:33:56 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:27:40 -0700, John Locke

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

Evolution theory is a proven fact of nature and you
can't debunk nature. Creationism/ID, on the other hand, has
been examined and debunked by every credible research center
and university on the planet. And by the way, there's no such
thing as "Darwinism".

And, God created the natural laws that govern the evolutionary
processes that Darwin identified for us. Why would God not
have used these evolutionary laws to achieve the development
of all life forms on this planet? Gordon

That means your god is responsible all the
diseases and parasites we live with today, no?
Why would he do such a thing?

Not directly, but in a sense, yes, God is responsible. That is,
God allowed Lucifer/Satan and the fallen angels to explore all
the vagaries of sin and rebellion, using us humans as lab rats,
so to speak. The primary objective was to bring us through a
learning phase that would assure God that none of us would ever
fall away like Lucifer and the fallen angels did, once we've
been granted immortality and absolute sovereignty. Gordon

So a child born with Downs Syndrome is just
a "learning phase"? What does she learn from it?

She may not learn anything, but others surely will. Learning,
individually and collectively, about the effects of all forms of
sin and rebellion is the objective.

What sin is a Downs child being for?

She's not. That's the point. She's being punished for something
someone else did.

She isn't actually being punished. She was given this "cross to bear"
in order that the rest of us could learn more about the cumulative
effects of sins such as those which caused this.

That makes no sense. If her condition is not a
punishment then "the effect of sin" has nothing to
do with it. No?

Wrong! Her condition and the related suffering is the result of
Satan's

Idiot.

Jeanne Douglas

2016-10-19 16:17:38 UTC

Post by Gordon
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 20:53:03 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 07:13:49 -0700, Jeanne Douglas

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:44:14 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:33:56 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:27:40 -0700, John Locke

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

Evolution theory is a proven fact of nature and you
can't debunk nature. Creationism/ID, on the other hand, has
been examined and debunked by every credible research center
and university on the planet. And by the way, there's no such
thing as "Darwinism".

And, God created the natural laws that govern the evolutionary
processes that Darwin identified for us. Why would God not
have used these evolutionary laws to achieve the development
of all life forms on this planet? Gordon

That means your god is responsible all the
diseases and parasites we live with today, no?
Why would he do such a thing?

Not directly, but in a sense, yes, God is responsible. That is,
God allowed Lucifer/Satan and the fallen angels to explore all
the vagaries of sin and rebellion, using us humans as lab rats,
so to speak. The primary objective was to bring us through a
learning phase that would assure God that none of us would ever
fall away like Lucifer and the fallen angels did, once we've
been granted immortality and absolute sovereignty. Gordon

So a child born with Downs Syndrome is just
a "learning phase"? What does she learn from it?

She may not learn anything, but others surely will. Learning,
individually and collectively, about the effects of all forms of
sin and rebellion is the objective.

What sin is a Downs child being for?

She's not. That's the point. She's being punished for something
someone else did.

She isn't actually being punished. She was given this "cross to bear"
in order that the rest of us could learn more about the cumulative
effects of sins such as those which caused this.

That makes no sense. If her condition is not a
punishment then "the effect of sin" has nothing to
do with it. No?

Wrong! Her condition and the related suffering is the result of
Satan's messing around with all forms of sin and rebellion.

Which is your god's fault.

You cannot escape the fact that your god, if it exists, is torturing an
infant for someone else's mistakes. There is no excuse.

--
JD

"It's not even that the man lies; it's more like he
rejects the idea that the point of language is to
describe reality."--Desi Lydic, TDS on Trump

Gordon

2016-10-18 16:36:13 UTC

On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 07:19:12 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:44:14 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:33:56 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:27:40 -0700, John Locke

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

Evolution theory is a proven fact of nature and you
can't debunk nature. Creationism/ID, on the other hand, has been
examined and debunked by every credible research center and
university on the planet. And by the way, there's no such thing as
"Darwinism".

And, God created the natural laws that govern the evolutionary
processes that Darwin identified for us. Why would God not have
used these evolutionary laws to achieve the development of all
life forms on this planet? Gordon

That means your god is responsible all the
diseases and parasites we live with today, no?
Why would he do such a thing?

Not directly, but in a sense, yes, God is responsible. That is, God
allowed Lucifer/Satan and the fallen angels to explore all the
vagaries of sin and rebellion, using us humans as lab rats, so to
speak. The primary objective was to bring us through a learning
phase that would assure God that none of us would ever fall away
like Lucifer and the fallen angels did, once we've been granted
immortality and absolute sovereignty. Gordon

So a child born with Downs Syndrome is just
a "learning phase"? What does she learn from it?

She may not learn anything, but others surely will. Learning,
individually and collectively, about the effects of all forms of sin
and rebellion is the objective.

What sin is a Downs child being for?

The sin, or sins that caused this may have been committed by many
others, several generations back and this baby just inherited the
resultant DNA flaw that resulted in the Down's Syndrome. But, when we
move on to eternity we will have full understanding of all the related
sins that pertain to any such suffering and we will never ever want to
go back and get involved in any form of sin and rebellion again.

Christopher A. Lee

2016-10-18 16:37:34 UTC

Post by Gordon
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 07:19:12 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:44:14 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:33:56 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:27:40 -0700, John Locke

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

Evolution theory is a proven fact of nature and you
can't debunk nature. Creationism/ID, on the other hand, has been
examined and debunked by every credible research center and
university on the planet. And by the way, there's no such thing as
"Darwinism".

And, God created the natural laws that govern the evolutionary
processes that Darwin identified for us. Why would God not have
used these evolutionary laws to achieve the development of all
life forms on this planet? Gordon

That means your god is responsible all the
diseases and parasites we live with today, no?
Why would he do such a thing?

Not directly, but in a sense, yes, God is responsible. That is, God
allowed Lucifer/Satan and the fallen angels to explore all the
vagaries of sin and rebellion, using us humans as lab rats, so to
speak. The primary objective was to bring us through a learning
phase that would assure God that none of us would ever fall away
like Lucifer and the fallen angels did, once we've been granted
immortality and absolute sovereignty. Gordon

So a child born with Downs Syndrome is just
a "learning phase"? What does she learn from it?

She may not learn anything, but others surely will. Learning,
individually and collectively, about the effects of all forms of sin
and rebellion is the objective.

What sin is a Downs child being for?

Why do you need to keep telling the world what an idiot you are?

Jeanne Douglas

2016-10-18 19:34:33 UTC

Post by Gordon
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 07:19:12 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:44:14 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:33:56 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:27:40 -0700, John Locke

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

Evolution theory is a proven fact of nature and you
can't debunk nature. Creationism/ID, on the other hand, has been
examined and debunked by every credible research center and
university on the planet. And by the way, there's no such thing as
"Darwinism".

And, God created the natural laws that govern the evolutionary
processes that Darwin identified for us. Why would God not have
used these evolutionary laws to achieve the development of all
life forms on this planet? Gordon

That means your god is responsible all the
diseases and parasites we live with today, no?
Why would he do such a thing?

Not directly, but in a sense, yes, God is responsible. That is, God
allowed Lucifer/Satan and the fallen angels to explore all the
vagaries of sin and rebellion, using us humans as lab rats, so to
speak. The primary objective was to bring us through a learning
phase that would assure God that none of us would ever fall away
like Lucifer and the fallen angels did, once we've been granted
immortality and absolute sovereignty. Gordon

So a child born with Downs Syndrome is just
a "learning phase"? What does she learn from it?

She may not learn anything, but others surely will. Learning,
individually and collectively, about the effects of all forms of sin
and rebellion is the objective.

What sin is a Downs child being for?

Why do you need to keep telling the world what an idiot you are?

He's trying to convince himself. Notice how it's always the same words
over and over, like a mantra he's using to convince himself that his
faith is real.

--
JD

"It's not even that the man lies; it's more like he
rejects the idea that the point of language is to
describe reality."--Desi Lydic, TDS on Trump

Jeanne Douglas

2016-10-18 19:33:51 UTC

Post by Gordon
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 07:19:12 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:44:14 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:33:56 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:27:40 -0700, John Locke

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

Evolution theory is a proven fact of nature and you
can't debunk nature. Creationism/ID, on the other hand, has been
examined and debunked by every credible research center and
university on the planet. And by the way, there's no such thing as
"Darwinism".

And, God created the natural laws that govern the evolutionary
processes that Darwin identified for us. Why would God not have
used these evolutionary laws to achieve the development of all
life forms on this planet? Gordon

That means your god is responsible all the
diseases and parasites we live with today, no?
Why would he do such a thing?

Not directly, but in a sense, yes, God is responsible. That is, God
allowed Lucifer/Satan and the fallen angels to explore all the
vagaries of sin and rebellion, using us humans as lab rats, so to
speak. The primary objective was to bring us through a learning
phase that would assure God that none of us would ever fall away
like Lucifer and the fallen angels did, once we've been granted
immortality and absolute sovereignty. Gordon

So a child born with Downs Syndrome is just
a "learning phase"? What does she learn from it?

She may not learn anything, but others surely will. Learning,
individually and collectively, about the effects of all forms of sin
and rebellion is the objective.

What sin is a Downs child being for?

The sin, or sins that caused this may have been committed by many
others,

So you ARE saying that your god punishes innocent babies for something
someone else does. I can think of few things more monstrous.

--
JD

"It's not even that the man lies; it's more like he
rejects the idea that the point of language is to
describe reality."--Desi Lydic, TDS on Trump

Mitchell Holman

2016-10-19 01:54:45 UTC

Post by Gordon
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 07:19:12 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:44:14 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:33:56 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:27:40 -0700, John Locke

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

Evolution theory is a proven fact of nature and you
can't debunk nature. Creationism/ID, on the other hand, has been
examined and debunked by every credible research center and
university on the planet. And by the way, there's no such thing as
"Darwinism".

And, God created the natural laws that govern the evolutionary
processes that Darwin identified for us. Why would God not have
used these evolutionary laws to achieve the development of all
life forms on this planet? Gordon

That means your god is responsible all the
diseases and parasites we live with today, no?
Why would he do such a thing?

Not directly, but in a sense, yes, God is responsible. That is, God
allowed Lucifer/Satan and the fallen angels to explore all the
vagaries of sin and rebellion, using us humans as lab rats, so to
speak. The primary objective was to bring us through a learning
phase that would assure God that none of us would ever fall away
like Lucifer and the fallen angels did, once we've been granted
immortality and absolute sovereignty. Gordon

So a child born with Downs Syndrome is just
a "learning phase"? What does she learn from it?

She may not learn anything, but others surely will. Learning,
individually and collectively, about the effects of all forms of sin
and rebellion is the objective.

What sin is a Downs child being for?

The sin, or sins that caused this may have been committed by many
others, several generations back and this baby just inherited the
resultant DNA flaw that resulted in the Down's Syndrome.

So she IS being punished for the sins of other.

Contrary to what you just said.

Gordon

2016-10-19 15:10:39 UTC

On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 20:54:45 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 07:19:12 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:44:14 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:33:56 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:27:40 -0700, John Locke

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

Evolution theory is a proven fact of nature and you
can't debunk nature. Creationism/ID, on the other hand, has been
examined and debunked by every credible research center and
university on the planet. And by the way, there's no such thing

Post by John Locke
"Darwinism".

And, God created the natural laws that govern the evolutionary
processes that Darwin identified for us. Why would God not have
used these evolutionary laws to achieve the development of all
life forms on this planet? Gordon

That means your god is responsible all the
diseases and parasites we live with today, no?
Why would he do such a thing?

Not directly, but in a sense, yes, God is responsible. That is, God
allowed Lucifer/Satan and the fallen angels to explore all the
vagaries of sin and rebellion, using us humans as lab rats, so to
speak. The primary objective was to bring us through a learning
phase that would assure God that none of us would ever fall away
like Lucifer and the fallen angels did, once we've been granted
immortality and absolute sovereignty. Gordon

So a child born with Downs Syndrome is just
a "learning phase"? What does she learn from it?

She may not learn anything, but others surely will. Learning,
individually and collectively, about the effects of all forms of sin
and rebellion is the objective.

What sin is a Downs child being for?

The sin, or sins that caused this may have been committed by many
others, several generations back and this baby just inherited the
resultant DNA flaw that resulted in the Down's Syndrome.

So she IS being punished for the sins of other.
Contrary to what you just said.

She is NOT being punished. She is being exposed to this harmful,
hurtful experience to help us all understand the effects of sin and
rebellion. Perhaps the sins and rebellious acts that caused her
condition were committed by her very distant ancestors and she
inherited the genetic flaws that resulted in her condition. For the
time being we cannot know what sins those ancestors committed but when
we have been moved on to the next level of existence we will see it
all very clearly.

1 Corinthians 13:12 (KJV) For now we see through a glass, darkly; but
then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as
also I am known.

Christopher A. Lee

2016-10-19 15:12:51 UTC

Post by Gordon
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 20:54:45 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 07:19:12 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:44:14 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:33:56 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:27:40 -0700, John Locke

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

Evolution theory is a proven fact of nature and you
can't debunk nature. Creationism/ID, on the other hand, has been
examined and debunked by every credible research center and
university on the planet. And by the way, there's no such thing

Post by John Locke
"Darwinism".

And, God created the natural laws that govern the evolutionary
processes that Darwin identified for us. Why would God not have
used these evolutionary laws to achieve the development of all
life forms on this planet? Gordon

That means your god is responsible all the
diseases and parasites we live with today, no?
Why would he do such a thing?

Not directly, but in a sense, yes, God is responsible. That is, God
allowed Lucifer/Satan and the fallen angels to explore all the
vagaries of sin and rebellion, using us humans as lab rats, so to
speak. The primary objective was to bring us through a learning
phase that would assure God that none of us would ever fall away
like Lucifer and the fallen angels did, once we've been granted
immortality and absolute sovereignty. Gordon

So a child born with Downs Syndrome is just
a "learning phase"? What does she learn from it?

She may not learn anything, but others surely will. Learning,
individually and collectively, about the effects of all forms of sin
and rebellion is the objective.

What sin is a Downs child being for?

The sin, or sins that caused this may have been committed by many
others, several generations back and this baby just inherited the
resultant DNA flaw that resulted in the Down's Syndrome.

So she IS being punished for the sins of other.
Contrary to what you just said.

Lying idiot.

Jeanne Douglas

2016-10-19 16:15:22 UTC

Post by Gordon
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 20:54:45 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 07:19:12 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:44:14 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:33:56 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:27:40 -0700, John Locke

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

Evolution theory is a proven fact of nature and you
can't debunk nature. Creationism/ID, on the other hand, has been
examined and debunked by every credible research center and
university on the planet. And by the way, there's no such thing

Post by John Locke
"Darwinism".

And, God created the natural laws that govern the evolutionary
processes that Darwin identified for us. Why would God not have
used these evolutionary laws to achieve the development of all
life forms on this planet? Gordon

That means your god is responsible all the
diseases and parasites we live with today, no?
Why would he do such a thing?

Not directly, but in a sense, yes, God is responsible. That is, God
allowed Lucifer/Satan and the fallen angels to explore all the
vagaries of sin and rebellion, using us humans as lab rats, so to
speak. The primary objective was to bring us through a learning
phase that would assure God that none of us would ever fall away
like Lucifer and the fallen angels did, once we've been granted
immortality and absolute sovereignty. Gordon

So a child born with Downs Syndrome is just
a "learning phase"? What does she learn from it?

She may not learn anything, but others surely will. Learning,
individually and collectively, about the effects of all forms of sin
and rebellion is the objective.

What sin is a Downs child being for?

The sin, or sins that caused this may have been committed by many
others, several generations back and this baby just inherited the
resultant DNA flaw that resulted in the Down's Syndrome.

So she IS being punished for the sins of other.
Contrary to what you just said.

Lying idiot.

The level of psychopathy that would allow someone to post what he just
did is appalling.

--
JD

"It's not even that the man lies; it's more like he
rejects the idea that the point of language is to
describe reality."--Desi Lydic, TDS on Trump

Christopher A. Lee

2016-10-19 16:28:22 UTC

On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 09:15:22 -0700, Jeanne Douglas

Post by Gordon
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 20:54:45 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 07:19:12 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:44:14 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:33:56 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:27:40 -0700, John Locke

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

Evolution theory is a proven fact of nature and you
can't debunk nature. Creationism/ID, on the other hand, has been
examined and debunked by every credible research center and
university on the planet. And by the way, there's no such thing

Post by John Locke
"Darwinism".

And, God created the natural laws that govern the evolutionary
processes that Darwin identified for us. Why would God not have
used these evolutionary laws to achieve the development of all
life forms on this planet? Gordon

That means your god is responsible all the
diseases and parasites we live with today, no?
Why would he do such a thing?

Not directly, but in a sense, yes, God is responsible. That is, God
allowed Lucifer/Satan and the fallen angels to explore all the
vagaries of sin and rebellion, using us humans as lab rats, so to
speak. The primary objective was to bring us through a learning
phase that would assure God that none of us would ever fall away
like Lucifer and the fallen angels did, once we've been granted
immortality and absolute sovereignty. Gordon

So a child born with Downs Syndrome is just
a "learning phase"? What does she learn from it?

She may not learn anything, but others surely will. Learning,
individually and collectively, about the effects of all forms of sin
and rebellion is the objective.

What sin is a Downs child being for?

The sin, or sins that caused this may have been committed by many
others, several generations back and this baby just inherited the
resultant DNA flaw that resulted in the Down's Syndrome.

So she IS being punished for the sins of other.
Contrary to what you just said.

Lying idiot.

The level of psychopathy that would allow someone to post what he just
did is appalling.

Were you on Youtube when VerminfangX was active? He basically said
that the Jews deserved the holocaust in a spat with Thunderf00t - and
he was raised Jewish but became a Jew For Jesus.

Jeanne Douglas

2016-10-19 17:51:46 UTC

Post by Christopher A. Lee
On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 09:15:22 -0700, Jeanne Douglas

Post by Gordon
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 20:54:45 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 07:19:12 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:44:14 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:33:56 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:27:40 -0700, John Locke

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

Evolution theory is a proven fact of nature and you
can't debunk nature. Creationism/ID, on the other hand, has been
examined and debunked by every credible research center and
university on the planet. And by the way, there's no such thing

Post by John Locke
"Darwinism".

And, God created the natural laws that govern the evolutionary
processes that Darwin identified for us. Why would God not have
used these evolutionary laws to achieve the development of all
life forms on this planet? Gordon

That means your god is responsible all the
diseases and parasites we live with today, no?
Why would he do such a thing?

Not directly, but in a sense, yes, God is responsible. That is, God
allowed Lucifer/Satan and the fallen angels to explore all the
vagaries of sin and rebellion, using us humans as lab rats, so to
speak. The primary objective was to bring us through a learning
phase that would assure God that none of us would ever fall away
like Lucifer and the fallen angels did, once we've been granted
immortality and absolute sovereignty. Gordon

So a child born with Downs Syndrome is just
a "learning phase"? What does she learn from it?

She may not learn anything, but others surely will. Learning,
individually and collectively, about the effects of all forms of sin
and rebellion is the objective.

What sin is a Downs child being for?

The sin, or sins that caused this may have been committed by many
others, several generations back and this baby just inherited the
resultant DNA flaw that resulted in the Down's Syndrome.

So she IS being punished for the sins of other.
Contrary to what you just said.

Lying idiot.

The level of psychopathy that would allow someone to post what he just
did is appalling.

Were you on Youtube when VerminfangX was active? He basically said
that the Jews deserved the holocaust in a spat with Thunderf00t - and
he was raised Jewish but became a Jew For Jesus.

Before my time. Sounds charming.

--
JD

"It's not even that the man lies; it's more like he
rejects the idea that the point of language is to
describe reality."--Desi Lydic, TDS on Trump

Jeanne Douglas

2016-10-19 16:14:05 UTC

Post by Gordon
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 20:54:45 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 07:19:12 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:44:14 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:33:56 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:27:40 -0700, John Locke

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

Evolution theory is a proven fact of nature and you
can't debunk nature. Creationism/ID, on the other hand, has been
examined and debunked by every credible research center and
university on the planet. And by the way, there's no such thing

Post by John Locke
"Darwinism".

And, God created the natural laws that govern the evolutionary
processes that Darwin identified for us. Why would God not have
used these evolutionary laws to achieve the development of all
life forms on this planet? Gordon

That means your god is responsible all the
diseases and parasites we live with today, no?
Why would he do such a thing?

Not directly, but in a sense, yes, God is responsible. That is, God
allowed Lucifer/Satan and the fallen angels to explore all the
vagaries of sin and rebellion, using us humans as lab rats, so to
speak. The primary objective was to bring us through a learning
phase that would assure God that none of us would ever fall away
like Lucifer and the fallen angels did, once we've been granted
immortality and absolute sovereignty. Gordon

So a child born with Downs Syndrome is just
a "learning phase"? What does she learn from it?

She may not learn anything, but others surely will. Learning,
individually and collectively, about the effects of all forms of sin
and rebellion is the objective.

What sin is a Downs child being for?

The sin, or sins that caused this may have been committed by many
others, several generations back and this baby just inherited the
resultant DNA flaw that resulted in the Down's Syndrome.

So she IS being punished for the sins of other.
Contrary to what you just said.

She is NOT being punished. S

If you don't understand that she IS being punished for someone else's
misdeeds, then you're almost as huge a monster and a psychopath as the
gold you worship.

--
JD

"It's not even that the man lies; it's more like he
rejects the idea that the point of language is to
describe reality."--Desi Lydic, TDS on Trump

Jeanne Douglas

2016-10-19 16:14:47 UTC

Post by Gordon
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 20:54:45 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 07:19:12 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:44:14 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:33:56 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:27:40 -0700, John Locke

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

Evolution theory is a proven fact of nature and you
can't debunk nature. Creationism/ID, on the other hand, has been
examined and debunked by every credible research center and
university on the planet. And by the way, there's no such thing

Post by John Locke
"Darwinism".

And, God created the natural laws that govern the evolutionary
processes that Darwin identified for us. Why would God not have
used these evolutionary laws to achieve the development of all
life forms on this planet? Gordon

That means your god is responsible all the
diseases and parasites we live with today, no?
Why would he do such a thing?

Not directly, but in a sense, yes, God is responsible. That is, God
allowed Lucifer/Satan and the fallen angels to explore all the
vagaries of sin and rebellion, using us humans as lab rats, so to
speak. The primary objective was to bring us through a learning
phase that would assure God that none of us would ever fall away
like Lucifer and the fallen angels did, once we've been granted
immortality and absolute sovereignty. Gordon

So a child born with Downs Syndrome is just
a "learning phase"? What does she learn from it?

She may not learn anything, but others surely will. Learning,
individually and collectively, about the effects of all forms of sin
and rebellion is the objective.

What sin is a Downs child being for?

The sin, or sins that caused this may have been committed by many
others, several generations back and this baby just inherited the
resultant DNA flaw that resulted in the Down's Syndrome.

So she IS being punished for the sins of other.
Contrary to what you just said.

And there you confess it again--she is being punished for something she
never did.

Your god is a monster and so are you.

--
JD

"It's not even that the man lies; it's more like he
rejects the idea that the point of language is to
describe reality."--Desi Lydic, TDS on Trump

Mitchell Holman

2016-10-19 21:53:15 UTC

Post by Gordon
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 20:54:45 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 07:19:12 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:44:14 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:33:56 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:27:40 -0700, John Locke

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

Evolution theory is a proven fact of nature and you
can't debunk nature. Creationism/ID, on the other hand, has been
examined and debunked by every credible research center and
university on the planet. And by the way, there's no such thing

Post by John Locke
"Darwinism".

And, God created the natural laws that govern the evolutionary
processes that Darwin identified for us. Why would God not have
used these evolutionary laws to achieve the development of all
life forms on this planet? Gordon

That means your god is responsible all the
diseases and parasites we live with today, no?
Why would he do such a thing?

Not directly, but in a sense, yes, God is responsible. That is, God
allowed Lucifer/Satan and the fallen angels to explore all the
vagaries of sin and rebellion, using us humans as lab rats, so to
speak. The primary objective was to bring us through a learning
phase that would assure God that none of us would ever fall away
like Lucifer and the fallen angels did, once we've been granted
immortality and absolute sovereignty. Gordon

So a child born with Downs Syndrome is just
a "learning phase"? What does she learn from it?

She may not learn anything, but others surely will. Learning,
individually and collectively, about the effects of all forms of sin
and rebellion is the objective.

What sin is a Downs child being for?

The sin, or sins that caused this may have been committed by many
others, several generations back and this baby just inherited the
resultant DNA flaw that resulted in the Down's Syndrome.

So she IS being punished for the sins of other.
Contrary to what you just said.

That is just what I said. Her condition is
caused by the sins of others. Or as your Bible
puts it:

"Our fathers sinned, and are no more;
and we bear their iniquities."
Lamentations 5:7

Gordon

2016-10-19 23:48:52 UTC

On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 16:53:15 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 20:54:45 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 07:19:12 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:44:14 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:33:56 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:27:40 -0700, John Locke

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

Evolution theory is a proven fact of nature and you
can't debunk nature. Creationism/ID, on the other hand, has

been

Post by John Locke
examined and debunked by every credible research center and
university on the planet. And by the way, there's no such thing

Post by John Locke
"Darwinism".

And, God created the natural laws that govern the evolutionary
processes that Darwin identified for us. Why would God not have
used these evolutionary laws to achieve the development of all
life forms on this planet? Gordon

That means your god is responsible all the
diseases and parasites we live with today, no?
Why would he do such a thing?

Not directly, but in a sense, yes, God is responsible. That is,

God

Post by Gordon
allowed Lucifer/Satan and the fallen angels to explore all the
vagaries of sin and rebellion, using us humans as lab rats, so to
speak. The primary objective was to bring us through a learning
phase that would assure God that none of us would ever fall away
like Lucifer and the fallen angels did, once we've been granted
immortality and absolute sovereignty. Gordon

So a child born with Downs Syndrome is just
a "learning phase"? What does she learn from it?

She may not learn anything, but others surely will. Learning,
individually and collectively, about the effects of all forms of

sin

Post by Gordon
and rebellion is the objective.

What sin is a Downs child being for?

The sin, or sins that caused this may have been committed by many
others, several generations back and this baby just inherited the
resultant DNA flaw that resulted in the Down's Syndrome.

So she IS being punished for the sins of other.
Contrary to what you just said.

That is just what I said. Her condition is
caused by the sins of others. Or as your Bible
"Our fathers sinned, and are no more;
and we bear their iniquities."
Lamentations 5:7

I didn't make my point quite clear enough. I was saying that this
little girl's suffering was not a form of punishment levied upon her
for some sins she had committed. It was a burden that she had to bear
for the sins of her predecessors. She was not being punished, in the
ordinary sense of the word. Similarly, Jesus was not being punished
for any form of sin or sins when he was crucified. Gordon

Mitchell Holman

2016-10-20 00:02:52 UTC

Post by Gordon
On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 16:53:15 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 20:54:45 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 07:19:12 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:44:14 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:33:56 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:27:40 -0700, John Locke

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

Evolution theory is a proven fact of nature and you
can't debunk nature. Creationism/ID, on the other hand, has

been

Post by John Locke
examined and debunked by every credible research center and
university on the planet. And by the way, there's no such thing

Post by John Locke
"Darwinism".

And, God created the natural laws that govern the
evolutionary processes that Darwin identified for us. Why
would God not have used these evolutionary laws to achieve
the development of all life forms on this planet? Gordon

That means your god is responsible all the
diseases and parasites we live with today, no?
Why would he do such a thing?

Not directly, but in a sense, yes, God is responsible. That is,

God

Post by Gordon
allowed Lucifer/Satan and the fallen angels to explore all the
vagaries of sin and rebellion, using us humans as lab rats, so
to speak. The primary objective was to bring us through a
learning phase that would assure God that none of us would
ever fall away like Lucifer and the fallen angels did, once
we've been granted immortality and absolute sovereignty.
Gordon

So a child born with Downs Syndrome is just
a "learning phase"? What does she learn from it?

She may not learn anything, but others surely will. Learning,
individually and collectively, about the effects of all forms of

sin

Post by Gordon
and rebellion is the objective.

What sin is a Downs child being for?

The sin, or sins that caused this may have been committed by many
others, several generations back and this baby just inherited the
resultant DNA flaw that resulted in the Down's Syndrome.

So she IS being punished for the sins of other.
Contrary to what you just said.

That is just what I said. Her condition is
caused by the sins of others. Or as your Bible
"Our fathers sinned, and are no more;
and we bear their iniquities."
Lamentations 5:7

I didn't make my point quite clear enough. I was saying that this
little girl's suffering was not a form of punishment levied upon her
for some sins she had committed.

Then the Bible is wrong?

Post by Gordon
It was a burden that she had to bear
for the sins of her predecessors.

Why?

Post by Gordon
She was not being punished, in the
ordinary sense of the word.

Punishment:
a penalty inflicted for an offense, fault, etc.
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/punishment?s=t

Post by Gordon
Similarly, Jesus was not being punished
for any form of sin or sins when he was crucified.

Jesus was tried by the civil government
and sentenced for committing a criminal act.
Of course his fate was a punishment.

Christopher A. Lee

2016-10-20 14:57:25 UTC

Post by Gordon
On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 16:53:15 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 20:54:45 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 07:19:12 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:44:14 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:33:56 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:27:40 -0700, John Locke

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

Evolution theory is a proven fact of nature and you
can't debunk nature. Creationism/ID, on the other hand, has

been

Post by John Locke
examined and debunked by every credible research center and
university on the planet. And by the way, there's no such thing

Post by John Locke
"Darwinism".

And, God created the natural laws that govern the evolutionary
processes that Darwin identified for us. Why would God not have
used these evolutionary laws to achieve the development of all
life forms on this planet? Gordon

That means your god is responsible all the
diseases and parasites we live with today, no?
Why would he do such a thing?

Not directly, but in a sense, yes, God is responsible. That is,

God

So a child born with Downs Syndrome is just
a "learning phase"? What does she learn from it?

She may not learn anything, but others surely will. Learning,
individually and collectively, about the effects of all forms of

sin

Post by Gordon
and rebellion is the objective.

What sin is a Downs child being for?

The sin, or sins that caused this may have been committed by many
others, several generations back and this baby just inherited the
resultant DNA flaw that resulted in the Down's Syndrome.

So she IS being punished for the sins of other.
Contrary to what you just said.

That is just what I said. Her condition is
caused by the sins of others. Or as your Bible
"Our fathers sinned, and are no more;
and we bear their iniquities."
Lamentations 5:7

You had no point until you demonstrate that your god and your Jesus
have any real existence outside your religion, imbecile - because you
are spouting your question-begging nonsense outside it.

Jeanne Douglas

2016-10-18 12:32:24 UTC

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:44:14 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:33:56 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:27:40 -0700, John Locke

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

That means your god is responsible all the
diseases and parasites we live with today, no?
Why would he do such a thing?

So a child born with Downs Syndrome is just
a "learning phase"? What does she learn from it?

She may not learn anything, but others surely will.

So you're saying your god tortures innocent children to teach other
people some lesson.

If you don't realize how crazy that makes you sound, you're hopeless.

--
JD

"It's not even that the man lies; it's more like he
rejects the idea that the point of language is to
describe reality."--Desi Lydic, TDS on Trump

Christopher A. Lee

2016-10-18 12:36:28 UTC

On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 05:32:24 -0700, Jeanne Douglas

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:44:14 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:33:56 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:27:40 -0700, John Locke

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

That means your god is responsible all the
diseases and parasites we live with today, no?
Why would he do such a thing?

So a child born with Downs Syndrome is just
a "learning phase"? What does she learn from it?

She may not learn anything, but others surely will.

So you're saying your god tortures innocent children to teach other
people some lesson.
If you don't realize how crazy that makes you sound, you're hopeless.

It takes a psychopath to defend an imaginary psychopath.

Gordon

2016-10-18 16:40:43 UTC

On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 05:32:24 -0700, Jeanne Douglas

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:44:14 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:33:56 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:27:40 -0700, John Locke

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

That means your god is responsible all the
diseases and parasites we live with today, no?
Why would he do such a thing?

So a child born with Downs Syndrome is just
a "learning phase"? What does she learn from it?

She may not learn anything, but others surely will.

So you're saying your god tortures innocent children to teach other
people some lesson.
If you don't realize how crazy that makes you sound, you're hopeless.

We all have our load to bear in this realm but the end result of being
advanced to immortality and absolute sovereignty in a perfect body and
a perfect environment, eternally, is well worth the burdens we now
bear. Gordon

Christopher A. Lee

2016-10-18 17:08:50 UTC

Post by Christopher A. Lee
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 05:32:24 -0700, Jeanne Douglas

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:44:14 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:33:56 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:27:40 -0700, John Locke

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

That means your god is responsible all the
diseases and parasites we live with today, no?
Why would he do such a thing?

So a child born with Downs Syndrome is just
a "learning phase"? What does she learn from it?

She may not learn anything, but others surely will.

So you're saying your god tortures innocent children to teach other
people some lesson.
If you don't realize how crazy that makes you sound, you're hopeless.

Idiot.

Post by Christopher A. Lee
Gordon

Smiler

2016-10-19 01:51:57 UTC

Post by Christopher A. Lee
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 05:32:24 -0700, Jeanne Douglas

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:44:14 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:33:56 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:27:40 -0700, John Locke

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

Evolution theory is a proven fact of nature and you can't debunk
nature. Creationism/ID, on the other hand, has been examined and
debunked by every credible research center and university on the
planet. And by the way, there's no such thing as "Darwinism".

And, God created the natural laws that govern the evolutionary
processes that Darwin identified for us. Why would God not have
used these evolutionary laws to achieve the development of all
life forms on this planet? Gordon

That means your god is responsible all the diseases and parasites
we live with today, no?
Why would he do such a thing?

Not directly, but in a sense, yes, God is responsible. That is,
God allowed Lucifer/Satan and the fallen angels to explore all the
vagaries of sin and rebellion, using us humans as lab rats, so to
speak. The primary objective was to bring us through a learning
phase that would assure God that none of us would ever fall away
like Lucifer and the fallen angels did, once we've been granted
immortality and absolute sovereignty. Gordon

So a child born with Downs Syndrome is just a "learning phase"? What
does she learn from it?

She may not learn anything, but others surely will.

So you're saying your god tortures innocent children to teach other
people some lesson.
If you don't realize how crazy that makes you sound, you're hopeless.

We all have our load to bear in this realm but the end result of being
advanced to immortality and absolute sovereignty in a perfect body and a
perfect environment, eternally, is well worth the burdens we now bear.

Idiot.

If he 'thinks' that we will somehow believe that pile of shit, he's more
than an idiot, he's insane.

--
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

Gordon

2016-10-19 15:14:02 UTC

Post by Christopher A. Lee
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 05:32:24 -0700, Jeanne Douglas

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:44:14 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:33:56 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:27:40 -0700, John Locke

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

Evolution theory is a proven fact of nature and you can't debunk
nature. Creationism/ID, on the other hand, has been examined and
debunked by every credible research center and university on the
planet. And by the way, there's no such thing as "Darwinism".

And, God created the natural laws that govern the evolutionary
processes that Darwin identified for us. Why would God not have
used these evolutionary laws to achieve the development of all
life forms on this planet? Gordon

That means your god is responsible all the diseases and parasites
we live with today, no?
Why would he do such a thing?

Not directly, but in a sense, yes, God is responsible. That is,
God allowed Lucifer/Satan and the fallen angels to explore all the
vagaries of sin and rebellion, using us humans as lab rats, so to
speak. The primary objective was to bring us through a learning
phase that would assure God that none of us would ever fall away
like Lucifer and the fallen angels did, once we've been granted
immortality and absolute sovereignty. Gordon

So a child born with Downs Syndrome is just a "learning phase"? What
does she learn from it?

She may not learn anything, but others surely will.

So you're saying your god tortures innocent children to teach other
people some lesson.
If you don't realize how crazy that makes you sound, you're hopeless.

We all have our load to bear in this realm but the end result of being
advanced to immortality and absolute sovereignty in a perfect body and a
perfect environment, eternally, is well worth the burdens we now bear.

Idiot.

If he 'thinks' that we will somehow believe that pile of shit, he's more
than an idiot, he's insane.

No, Smiler, I DO NOT think you would believe what I've said but I DO
think there may be others that read the messages posted on this
newsgroup who would be interested in reading my posts and following up
with some thinking along these lines.

You and anyone else who does not want to read my posts have the option
of putting me into your kill file and not being bothered with this any
more. Gordon

Christopher A. Lee

2016-10-19 15:19:13 UTC

Post by Christopher A. Lee
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 05:32:24 -0700, Jeanne Douglas

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:44:14 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:33:56 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:27:40 -0700, John Locke

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

Evolution theory is a proven fact of nature and you can't debunk
nature. Creationism/ID, on the other hand, has been examined and
debunked by every credible research center and university on the
planet. And by the way, there's no such thing as "Darwinism".

And, God created the natural laws that govern the evolutionary
processes that Darwin identified for us. Why would God not have
used these evolutionary laws to achieve the development of all
life forms on this planet? Gordon

That means your god is responsible all the diseases and parasites
we live with today, no?
Why would he do such a thing?

Not directly, but in a sense, yes, God is responsible. That is,
God allowed Lucifer/Satan and the fallen angels to explore all the
vagaries of sin and rebellion, using us humans as lab rats, so to
speak. The primary objective was to bring us through a learning
phase that would assure God that none of us would ever fall away
like Lucifer and the fallen angels did, once we've been granted
immortality and absolute sovereignty. Gordon

So a child born with Downs Syndrome is just a "learning phase"? What
does she learn from it?

She may not learn anything, but others surely will.

So you're saying your god tortures innocent children to teach other
people some lesson.
If you don't realize how crazy that makes you sound, you're hopeless.

We all have our load to bear in this realm but the end result of being
advanced to immortality and absolute sovereignty in a perfect body and a
perfect environment, eternally, is well worth the burdens we now bear.

Idiot.

If he 'thinks' that we will somehow believe that pile of shit, he's more
than an idiot, he's insane.

Why, moron?

And why don't you at least try to think beyond your religion?

Post by Gordon
You and anyone else who does not want to read my posts have the option
of putting me into your kill file and not being bothered with this any
more. Gordon

The psychopath's copout - we shouldn't have to do that if you had a
shred of human decency.

Jeanne Douglas

2016-10-19 16:12:50 UTC

Post by Christopher A. Lee
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 05:32:24 -0700, Jeanne Douglas

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:44:14 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:33:56 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:27:40 -0700, John Locke

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

Evolution theory is a proven fact of nature and you can't debunk
nature. Creationism/ID, on the other hand, has been examined and
debunked by every credible research center and university on the
planet. And by the way, there's no such thing as "Darwinism".

And, God created the natural laws that govern the evolutionary
processes that Darwin identified for us. Why would God not have
used these evolutionary laws to achieve the development of all
life forms on this planet? Gordon

That means your god is responsible all the diseases and parasites
we live with today, no?
Why would he do such a thing?

Not directly, but in a sense, yes, God is responsible. That is,
God allowed Lucifer/Satan and the fallen angels to explore all the
vagaries of sin and rebellion, using us humans as lab rats, so to
speak. The primary objective was to bring us through a learning
phase that would assure God that none of us would ever fall away
like Lucifer and the fallen angels did, once we've been granted
immortality and absolute sovereignty. Gordon

So a child born with Downs Syndrome is just a "learning phase"? What
does she learn from it?

She may not learn anything, but others surely will.

So you're saying your god tortures innocent children to teach other
people some lesson.
If you don't realize how crazy that makes you sound, you're hopeless.

We all have our load to bear in this realm but the end result of being
advanced to immortality and absolute sovereignty in a perfect body and a
perfect environment, eternally, is well worth the burdens we now bear.

Idiot.

If he 'thinks' that we will somehow believe that pile of shit, he's more
than an idiot, he's insane.

No, Smiler, I DO NOT think you would believe what I've said but I DO
think there may be others that read the messages posted on this
newsgroup who would be interested in reading my posts

Name one.

--
JD

"It's not even that the man lies; it's more like he
rejects the idea that the point of language is to
describe reality."--Desi Lydic, TDS on Trump

Smiler

2016-10-20 01:22:40 UTC

Post by Christopher A. Lee
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 05:32:24 -0700, Jeanne Douglas

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:44:14 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:33:56 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:27:40 -0700, John Locke

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

Evolution theory is a proven fact of nature and you can't
debunk nature. Creationism/ID, on the other hand, has been
examined and debunked by every credible research center and
university on the planet. And by the way, there's no such
thing as "Darwinism".

And, God created the natural laws that govern the evolutionary
processes that Darwin identified for us. Why would God not
have used these evolutionary laws to achieve the development
of all life forms on this planet? Gordon

That means your god is responsible all the diseases and
parasites we live with today, no?
Why would he do such a thing?

Not directly, but in a sense, yes, God is responsible. That is,
God allowed Lucifer/Satan and the fallen angels to explore all
the vagaries of sin and rebellion, using us humans as lab rats,
so to speak. The primary objective was to bring us through a
learning phase that would assure God that none of us would ever
fall away like Lucifer and the fallen angels did, once we've
been granted immortality and absolute sovereignty. Gordon

So a child born with Downs Syndrome is just a "learning phase"?
What does she learn from it?

She may not learn anything, but others surely will.

So you're saying your god tortures innocent children to teach other
people some lesson.
If you don't realize how crazy that makes you sound, you're hopeless.

Idiot.

If he 'thinks' that we will somehow believe that pile of shit, he's more
than an idiot, he's insane.

No, Smiler, I DO NOT think

We know that.

Post by Gordon
you would believe what I've said but I DO think

There's no evidence for that.

Post by Gordon
there may be others that read the messages posted on this
newsgroup who would be interested in reading my posts and following up
with some thinking along these lines.

The figments of your deluded imagination cannot read.

Post by Gordon
You and anyone else who does not want to read my posts have the option
of putting me into your kill file and not being bothered with this any
more.

So, if we behave like you and invade your church and disrupt the services,
you will just ignore us and not ask us to leave?
Where is your place of worship?

--
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

Jeanne Douglas

2016-10-18 19:37:11 UTC

Post by Christopher A. Lee
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 05:32:24 -0700, Jeanne Douglas

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:44:14 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:33:56 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:27:40 -0700, John Locke

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

That means your god is responsible all the
diseases and parasites we live with today, no?
Why would he do such a thing?

So a child born with Downs Syndrome is just
a "learning phase"? What does she learn from it?

She may not learn anything, but others surely will.

So you're saying your god tortures innocent children to teach other
people some lesson.
If you don't realize how crazy that makes you sound, you're hopeless.

We all have our load to bear in this realm but the end result of being
advanced to immortality

Unless you provide evidence that there's any such thing as
"immortality", you cannot discuss it as if it's real.

--
JD

"It's not even that the man lies; it's more like he
rejects the idea that the point of language is to
describe reality."--Desi Lydic, TDS on Trump

Christopher A. Lee

2016-10-18 12:35:04 UTC

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:44:14 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:33:56 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:27:40 -0700, John Locke

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

That means your god is responsible all the
diseases and parasites we live with today, no?
Why would he do such a thing?

So a child born with Downs Syndrome is just
a "learning phase"? What does she learn from it?

Idiot.

Post by Gordon
Gordon

Jeanne Douglas

2016-10-18 06:26:02 UTC

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:33:56 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:27:40 -0700, John Locke

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

That means your god is responsible all the
diseases and parasites we live with today, no?
Why would he do such a thing?

Not directly, but in a sense, yes, God is responsible.

Until you prove that this god of yours exist, you cannot claim it does
anything in the real world.

Do you have any such proof?

--
JD

"It's not even that the man lies; it's more like he
rejects the idea that the point of language is to
describe reality."--Desi Lydic, TDS on Trump

Gordon

2016-10-18 12:10:27 UTC

On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 23:26:02 -0700, Jeanne Douglas

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:33:56 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:27:40 -0700, John Locke

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

That means your god is responsible all the
diseases and parasites we live with today, no?
Why would he do such a thing?

Not directly, but in a sense, yes, God is responsible.

Until you prove that this god of yours exist, you cannot claim it does
anything in the real world.
Do you have any such proof?

No, I do not have any such proof. This is sort of like having proof
that I will live another ten years or longer. I don't have any such
proof but I sincerely believe that it is possible and I will do all I
can to support this belief. Gordon

Christopher A. Lee

2016-10-18 12:37:03 UTC

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 23:26:02 -0700, Jeanne Douglas

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:33:56 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:27:40 -0700, John Locke

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

That means your god is responsible all the
diseases and parasites we live with today, no?
Why would he do such a thing?

Not directly, but in a sense, yes, God is responsible.

Until you prove that this god of yours exist, you cannot claim it does
anything in the real world.
Do you have any such proof?

Then shut the fuck up about it.

Jeanne Douglas

2016-10-18 13:10:19 UTC

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 23:26:02 -0700, Jeanne Douglas

Post by Gordon
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:33:56 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Gordon
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:27:40 -0700, John Locke

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

That means your god is responsible all the
diseases and parasites we live with today, no?
Why would he do such a thing?

Not directly, but in a sense, yes, God is responsible.

Until you prove that this god of yours exist, you cannot claim it does
anything in the real world.
Do you have any such proof?

No, I do not have any such proof.

Then nobody here gives a damn what you think your fictional god does.

Post by Gordon
This is sort of like having proof
that I will live another ten years or longer.

Nope, it's not anywhere even close to "sort of".

Post by Gordon
I don't have any such
proof but I sincerely believe that it is possible and I will do all I
can to support this belief. Gordon

And that has nothing whatsoever with whether your god is real or not.

But thank you for more data for the thesis that theists wouldn't know a
decent analogy if it bit them.

--
JD

"It's not even that the man lies; it's more like he
rejects the idea that the point of language is to
describe reality."--Desi Lydic, TDS on Trump

John Locke

2016-10-19 21:15:49 UTC

Post by Gordon
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:27:40 -0700, John Locke

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

...simple, becuase there is no god to create the laws of nature.

Cloud Hobbit

2016-10-20 02:21:14 UTC

Post by Gordon
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:27:40 -0700, John Locke

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

And, God created the natural laws that govern the evolutionary
processes that Darwin identified for us.

What god? No god is in evidence.

Why would God not have used

Post by Gordon
these evolutionary laws to achieve the development of all life forms
on this planet? Gordon

Why would he if he didn't have to? If he could will a universe into existence, surely he could will animals that don't need to evolve, or create a world that was more hospitable to life and didn't need evolution.

Still need to prove god first.

W.T.S., cc4-The Lamp of Golden Truth!*

2016-10-17 05:30:10 UTC

https://www.youtube.com/watch-creationist-lie-and-bull-shit/

<http://tinyurl.com/hy7xymb>

<http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Falldidit#Falldidit>

<http://tinyurl.com/z4z77ra>

John Baker

2016-10-17 07:24:22 UTC

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

In over 150 years, no one has succeeded in falsifying evolution, Boob.
Given your lack of education and obviously low IQ, I think it's safe
to say you won't either.
AA #1898
Giver of No Fucks
Keeper of the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch

Andrew

2016-10-17 08:19:08 UTC

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

In over 150 years, no one has succeeded in falsifying
evolution,

Do you believe in "goo to you"?

Lol!

Some folks here are so gullible.

W.T.S., cc4-The Lamp of Golden Truth!*

2016-10-17 09:15:18 UTC

https://www.youtube.com/watch-creationist-show-how-stupid-they-are/

In over 150 years, no one has succeeded in falsifying
evolution,

Do you believe in "goo to you"?
Lol!
Some folks here are so gullible.

Do you believe in a "creator" that needed no creation, and can just breath
on dirt and form a fully formed human? Some people are just so stupid as
to beleive in a magic sky pixie! Learn the truth for a change:

<https://sphericalbullshit.wordpress.com/2013/05/02/what-i-would-say-to-
creationists-if-i-was-more-of-a-dick/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zascach>

<https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK6360/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zvyyhxn>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_replication>

<http://tinyurl.com/goxgec9>

<https://edthemanicstreetpreacher.wordpress.com/2010/04/09/dawkins-
berlinski/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zmv3xf2>

<https://www.theguardian.com/science/head-quarters/2014/feb/06/22-
answers-creationism-evolution-bill-nye-ken-ham-debate>

<http://tinyurl.com/hwjf83d>

<http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/dumb-things-creationists-
say/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zq9wt5k>

<http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/20/magazine/unintelligent-design.html?
_r=0>

<http://tinyurl.com/h7ubjta>

<http://www.eoht.info/page/Creationism+scientists+ranked+by+idiocy>

<http://tinyurl.com/h5y2gao>

<https://www.chess.com/groups/forumview/18-creationist-arguments-
debunked>

<http://tinyurl.com/zb7sfyr>

<http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Category:Creationism>

<http://tinyurl.com/zt8dycq>

<https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/jan/28/creation-origin-life-
future-adam-rutherford-review>

<http://tinyurl.com/hsj6u6y>

<http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2016/06/07/what-do-physicists-
think-of-michio-kaku/>

<http://tinyurl.com/j32bskg>

<http://undsci.berkeley.edu/article/howscienceworks_16>

<http://tinyurl.com/3p4e7mx>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Darwin>

<http://tinyurl.com/jyzjfar>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregor_Mendel>

<http://tinyurl.com/pcqylyj>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution>

<http://tinyurl.com/7vw8ozk>

<http://www.famousscientists.org/charles-darwin/>

<http://tinyurl.com/jpr7p5v>

<http://darwin-online.org.uk/biography.html>

<http://tinyurl.com/5p6znj>

"Creation science" has not entered the curriculum for a reason so
simple and so basic that we often forget to mention it: because it is
false, and because good teachers understand exactly why it is false.
What could be more destructive of that most fragile yet most precious
commodity in our entire intellectual heritage -- good teaching -- than
a bill forcing honourable teachers to sully their sacred trust by
granting equal treatment to a doctrine not only known to be false, but
calculated to undermine any general understanding of science as an
enterprise? - Stephen Jay Gould.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Jay_Gould>

<http://tinyurl.com/jc3ckub>

<http://www.journals.elsevier.com/journal-of-human-evolution>

<http://tinyurl.com/jsalxfe>

<http://www.annualreviews.org/journal/ecolsys>

<http://tinyurl.com/z8o6zan>

<http://www.cell.com/trends/ecology-evolution/home>

<http://tinyurl.com/pwg6fak>

http://youtu.be/F1ibEaIPtMk

<http://tinyurl.com/hy7xymb>

<http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Falldidit#Falldidit>

<http://tinyurl.com/z4z77ra>

Cloud Hobbit

2016-10-17 10:34:52 UTC

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

In over 150 years, no one has succeeded in falsifying
evolution,

Do you believe in "goo to you"?
Lol!
Some folks here are so gullible.

Christians for example. They believe in a messiah that nobody can prove existed. That nobody thought much about during his life or they might have written something about him, but they didn't.

How much more gullible can you get?
Worse, they think that stupidity is a virtue, only they call it faith.
Holding an idea to be true, that has no data at all to confirm it, that's faith and that's stupidity. You don't even need to be especially smart to know that doing such a thing, is not something to be proud of, but these morons are proud of much faith they have. As if there is nobility is being stupid.

The Government of the United States is in no sense founded on the Christian religion.-----------------John Adams 2nd president of the United States

A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death..........................Albert Einstein

Eskimo: "If I did not know about God and sin, would I go to hell?" Priest: "No, not if you did not know." Eskimo: "Then why did you tell me?"
--------------Annie Dillard, 'Pilgrim at Tinker Creek'---------------

Mitchell Holman

2016-10-17 12:09:02 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit
The Government of the United States is in no sense founded on the
Christian religion.-----------------John Adams 2nd president of the
United States

"I do not find in orthodox Christianity one redeeming
feature."
- Thomas Jefferson

"I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early
in life, I absenteed
myself from Christian assemblies."
- Benjamin Franklin

"The purpose of separation of church and state is
to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless
strife that has soaked the soil of Europe in blood
for centuries."
- James Madison

As I understand the Christian religion, it was, and
is, a revelation. But how has it happened that millions
of fables, tales, legends, have been blended with both
Jewish and Christian revelation that have made them the
most bloody religion that ever existed? -
- John Adams, letter to F.A. Van der Kamp, Dec 27, 1816

"The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for
absurdity. Nowhere in the Gospels do we find a precept
for Creeds, Confessions, Oaths, Doctrines, and whole
carloads of other foolish trumpery that we find in
Christianity."
- John Adams

Andrew

2016-10-17 17:10:37 UTC

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

In over 150 years, no one has succeeded in falsifying
evolution,

Do you believe in "goo to you"?
Lol!
Some folks here are so gullible.

Christians for example. They believe in a messiah that
nobody can prove existed. That nobody thought much
about during his life or they might have written some-
thing about him, but they didn't.

I see you don't deny believing in "goo to you".....the
great deception accepted by the gullible masses who
don't know better.

W.T.S., cc4-The Lamp of Golden Truth!*

2016-10-17 17:16:25 UTC

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

In over 150 years, no one has succeeded in falsifying
evolution,

Do you believe in "goo to you"?
Lol!
Some folks here are so gullible.

Christians for example. They believe in a messiah that
nobody can prove existed. That nobody thought much
about during his life or they might have written some-
thing about him, but they didn't.

I see you don't deny believing in "goo to you".....the
great deception accepted by the gullible masses who
don't know better.

Here's some Christian belief:

http://youtu.be/F1ibEaIPtMk

<http://tinyurl.com/hy7xymb>

<http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Falldidit#Falldidit>

<http://tinyurl.com/z4z77ra>

Mitchell Holman

2016-10-17 12:06:51 UTC

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

In over 150 years, no one has succeeded in falsifying
evolution,

Do you believe in "goo to you"?

Do you still believe in Ye Floode?

Jeanne Douglas

2016-10-17 15:58:53 UTC

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

In over 150 years, no one has succeeded in falsifying
evolution,

Do you believe in "goo to you"?

There's no such thing.

Post by Mitchell Holman
Do you still believe in Ye Floode?

--
JD

"It's not even that the man lies; it's more like he
rejects the idea that the point of language is to
describe reality."--Desi Lydic, TDS on Trump

Andrew

2016-10-17 17:10:49 UTC

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

In over 150 years, no one has succeeded in falsifying
evolution,

Do you believe in "goo to you"?

There's no such thing.

Yet they believe it, why?

W.T.S., cc4-The Lamp of Golden Truth!*

2016-10-17 17:18:09 UTC

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

In over 150 years, no one has succeeded in falsifying
evolution,

Do you believe in "goo to you"?

There's no such thing.

Yet they believe it, why?

Here's why:

<https://sphericalbullshit.wordpress.com/2013/05/02/what-i-would-say-to-
creationists-if-i-was-more-of-a-dick/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zascach>

<https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK6360/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zvyyhxn>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_replication>

<http://tinyurl.com/goxgec9>

<https://edthemanicstreetpreacher.wordpress.com/2010/04/09/dawkins-
berlinski/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zmv3xf2>

<https://www.theguardian.com/science/head-quarters/2014/feb/06/22-
answers-creationism-evolution-bill-nye-ken-ham-debate>

<http://tinyurl.com/hwjf83d>

<http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/dumb-things-creationists-
say/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zq9wt5k>

<http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/20/magazine/unintelligent-design.html?
_r=0>

<http://tinyurl.com/h7ubjta>

<http://www.eoht.info/page/Creationism+scientists+ranked+by+idiocy>

<http://tinyurl.com/h5y2gao>

<https://www.chess.com/groups/forumview/18-creationist-arguments-
debunked>

<http://tinyurl.com/zb7sfyr>

<http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Category:Creationism>

<http://tinyurl.com/zt8dycq>

<https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/jan/28/creation-origin-life-
future-adam-rutherford-review>

<http://tinyurl.com/hsj6u6y>

<http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2016/06/07/what-do-physicists-
think-of-michio-kaku/>

<http://tinyurl.com/j32bskg>

<http://undsci.berkeley.edu/article/howscienceworks_16>

<http://tinyurl.com/3p4e7mx>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Darwin>

<http://tinyurl.com/jyzjfar>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregor_Mendel>

<http://tinyurl.com/pcqylyj>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution>

<http://tinyurl.com/7vw8ozk>

<http://www.famousscientists.org/charles-darwin/>

<http://tinyurl.com/jpr7p5v>

<http://darwin-online.org.uk/biography.html>

<http://tinyurl.com/5p6znj>

"Creation science" has not entered the curriculum for a reason so
simple and so basic that we often forget to mention it: because it is
false, and because good teachers understand exactly why it is false.
What could be more destructive of that most fragile yet most precious
commodity in our entire intellectual heritage -- good teaching -- than
a bill forcing honourable teachers to sully their sacred trust by
granting equal treatment to a doctrine not only known to be false, but
calculated to undermine any general understanding of science as an
enterprise? - Stephen Jay Gould.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Jay_Gould>

<http://tinyurl.com/jc3ckub>

<http://www.journals.elsevier.com/journal-of-human-evolution>

<http://tinyurl.com/jsalxfe>

<http://www.annualreviews.org/journal/ecolsys>

<http://tinyurl.com/z8o6zan>

<http://www.cell.com/trends/ecology-evolution/home>

<http://tinyurl.com/pwg6fak>

http://youtu.be/F1ibEaIPtMk

<http://tinyurl.com/hy7xymb>

<http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Falldidit#Falldidit>

<http://tinyurl.com/z4z77ra>

Andrew

2016-10-17 17:11:14 UTC

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

In over 150 years, no one has succeeded in falsifying
evolution,

Do you believe in "goo to you"?

Do you still believe in Ye Floode?

I see you don't deny believing in "goo
to you"...the great deception accepted
by the gullible masses who have been
deceived by their Darwinistic teachers.

And yes, I believe in the great Deluge
that came upon the antediluvians for
their incorrigible wickedness and evil.

W.T.S., cc4-The Lamp of Golden Truth!*

2016-10-17 17:19:52 UTC

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

In over 150 years, no one has succeeded in falsifying
evolution,

Do you believe in "goo to you"?

Do you still believe in Ye Floode?

I see you don't deny believing in "goo
to you"...the great deception accepted
by the gullible masses who have been
deceived by their Darwinistic teachers.
And yes, I believe in the great Deluge
that came upon the antediluvians for
their incorrigible wickedness and evil.

Here's what actually happened:

<https://sphericalbullshit.wordpress.com/2013/05/02/what-i-would-say-to-
creationists-if-i-was-more-of-a-dick/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zascach>

<https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK6360/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zvyyhxn>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_replication>

<http://tinyurl.com/goxgec9>

<https://edthemanicstreetpreacher.wordpress.com/2010/04/09/dawkins-ber
linski/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zmv3xf2>

<https://www.theguardian.com/science/head-quarters/2014/feb/06/22-answe
rs-creationism-evolution-bill-nye-ken-ham-debate>

<http://tinyurl.com/hwjf83d>

<http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/dumb-things-creationists-
say/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zq9wt5k>

<http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/20/magazine/unintelligent-design.html?_
r=0>

<http://tinyurl.com/h7ubjta>

<http://www.eoht.info/page/Creationism+scientists+ranked+by+idiocy>

<http://tinyurl.com/h5y2gao>

<https://www.chess.com/groups/forumview/18-creationist-arguments-debun
ked>

<http://tinyurl.com/zb7sfyr>

<http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Category:Creationism>

<http://tinyurl.com/zt8dycq>

<https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/jan/28/creation-origin-life-fu
ture-adam-rutherford-review>

<http://tinyurl.com/hsj6u6y>

<http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2016/06/07/what-do-physicists-t
hink-of-michio-kaku/>

<http://tinyurl.com/j32bskg>

<http://undsci.berkeley.edu/article/howscienceworks_16>

<http://tinyurl.com/3p4e7mx>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Darwin>

<http://tinyurl.com/jyzjfar>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregor_Mendel>

<http://tinyurl.com/pcqylyj>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution>

<http://tinyurl.com/7vw8ozk>

<http://www.famousscientists.org/charles-darwin/>

<http://tinyurl.com/jpr7p5v>

<http://darwin-online.org.uk/biography.html>

<http://tinyurl.com/5p6znj>

"Creation science" has not entered the curriculum for a reason so
simple and so basic that we often forget to mention it: because it is
false, and because good teachers understand exactly why it is false.
What could be more destructive of that most fragile yet most precious
commodity in our entire intellectual heritage -- good teaching -- than
a bill forcing honourable teachers to sully their sacred trust by
granting equal treatment to a doctrine not only known to be false, but
calculated to undermine any general understanding of science as an
enterprise? - Stephen Jay Gould.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Jay_Gould>

<http://tinyurl.com/jc3ckub>

<http://www.journals.elsevier.com/journal-of-human-evolution>

<http://tinyurl.com/jsalxfe>

<http://www.annualreviews.org/journal/ecolsys>

<http://tinyurl.com/z8o6zan>

<http://www.cell.com/trends/ecology-evolution/home>

<http://tinyurl.com/pwg6fak>

http://youtu.be/F1ibEaIPtMk

<http://tinyurl.com/hy7xymb>

<http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Falldidit#Falldidit>

<http://tinyurl.com/z4z77ra>

Mitchell Holman

2016-10-17 17:31:53 UTC

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

In over 150 years, no one has succeeded in falsifying
evolution,

Do you believe in "goo to you"?

Do you still believe in Ye Floode?

I see you don't deny believing in "goo
to you"...the great deception accepted
by the gullible masses who have been
deceived by their Darwinistic teachers.
And yes, I believe in the great Deluge
that came upon the antediluvians for
their incorrigible wickedness and evil.

1) Sounds like a design defect. Who is
responsible for that?

2) Why did the NOT evil or corrupted
children have to die?

3) To say nothing about the wildlife
that were killed despite committing no
sins. Got an explanation for that one
as well?

Bob

2016-10-17 18:11:25 UTC

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

In over 150 years, no one has succeeded in falsifying
evolution,

Do you believe in "goo to you"?

Do you still believe in Ye Floode?

I see you don't deny believing in "goo
to you"...the great deception accepted
by the gullible masses who have been
deceived by their Darwinistic teachers.
And yes, I believe in the great Deluge
that came upon the antediluvians for
their incorrigible wickedness and evil.

1) Sounds like a design defect.

But it's not.

It "sounds like" one to you because you have not been regenerated by the
Holy Spirit.

Post by Mitchell Holman
2) Why did the NOT evil or corrupted
children have to die?

There were none.

"The Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and
that every intention of the thoughts of his heart was only evil
continually."
(Genesis 6:5)

Post by Mitchell Holman
3) To say nothing about the wildlife
that were killed despite committing no
sins. Got an explanation for that one
as well?

Collateral damage.

If you have a problem with that, take it up with God.

Davej

2016-10-17 18:21:28 UTC

Post by Bob
[...]
It "sounds like" one to you because you have not been
regenerated by the Holy Spirit.

You need psychiatric help.

Mitchell Holman

2016-10-17 20:58:04 UTC

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

In over 150 years, no one has succeeded in falsifying
evolution,

Do you believe in "goo to you"?

Do you still believe in Ye Floode?

I see you don't deny believing in "goo
to you"...the great deception accepted
by the gullible masses who have been
deceived by their Darwinistic teachers.
And yes, I believe in the great Deluge
that came upon the antediluvians for
their incorrigible wickedness and evil.

1) Sounds like a design defect.

But it's not.
It "sounds like" one to you because you have not been regenerated by the
Holy Spirit.

If the product is flawed do you blame
the product or the designer?

Post by Mitchell Holman
2) Why did the NOT evil or corrupted
children have to die?

There were none.
"The Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and
that every intention of the thoughts of his heart was only evil
continually."
(Genesis 6:5)

So the "innocent unborn" are not actually
innocent. Why the fuss over abortion then?

Post by Mitchell Holman
3) To say nothing about the wildlife
that were killed despite committing no
sins. Got an explanation for that one
as well?

Collateral damage.

So your god was incapable of sparing them.

Seems he is not so all-powerful after all.

Bob

2016-10-18 02:45:33 UTC

Post by Mitchell Holman
If the product is flawed do you blame
the product or the designer?

You're not looking at the "Big Picture". You're just looking at a small
corner.

False Analogy noted.

Post by Mitchell Holman
2) Why did the NOT evil or corrupted
children have to die?

There were none.
"The Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth,
andthat every intention of the thoughts of his heart was only evil
continually."
(Genesis 6:5)

So the "innocent unborn" are not actually
innocent. Why the fuss over abortion then?

Abortion is murder.

I can't believe you're that stupid.

Post by Mitchell Holman
3) To say nothing about the wildlife
that were killed despite committing no
sins. Got an explanation for that one
as well?

Collateral damage.

So your god was incapable of sparing them.
Seems he is not so all-powerful after all.

Once again.

It "seems" that way to you because you have not been regenerated by the
Holy Spirit.

Mitchell Holman

2016-10-18 13:12:56 UTC

Post by Mitchell Holman
If the product is flawed do you blame
the product or the designer?

You're not looking at the "Big Picture". You're just looking at a small
corner.

If you cannot explain your mythology
just say so, we will understand.

Post by Bob
False Analogy noted.

Post by Mitchell Holman
2) Why did the NOT evil or corrupted
children have to die?

There were none.
"The Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth,
andthat every intention of the thoughts of his heart was only evil
continually."
(Genesis 6:5)

So the "innocent unborn" are not actually
innocent. Why the fuss over abortion then?

Abortion is murder.

Now many "innocent unborn" did your god
kill in Ye Floode, do you think?

Post by Mitchell Holman
3) To say nothing about the wildlife
that were killed despite committing no
sins. Got an explanation for that one
as well?

Collateral damage.

So your god was incapable of sparing them.
Seems he is not so all-powerful after all.

Once again.
It "seems" that way to you because you have not been regenerated by the
Holy Spirit.

But you have, so tell us why your god
killed all the wildlife.

Bob

2016-10-18 16:39:05 UTC

Post by Mitchell Holman
If the product is flawed do you blame
the product or the designer?

You're not looking at the "Big Picture". You're just looking at a small
corner.

If you cannot explain your religion
just say so, we will understand.

It's not a matter of being able to explain it, and you know it.

We've been through this before.

If you don't understand it, and you're not actively (constructively)
seeking
to understand it, that is, according to the will of God, then I might as
well be
talking to that wall in front of me. You would get nothing from it, and I
would be wasting my time, something I refuse to do.

Those that have been regenerated by the Holy Spirit of God know that the
Fall, as experienced by Adam and Eve, is a very important part of God's "Big
Picture". Jesus was predestined to die on the cross in order to rectify the
Fall before the universe was ever created.

"This Jesus, delivered up according to the definite plan and foreknowledge
of God, you crucified and killed by the hands of lawless men."
(Acts 2:23)

"But what God foretold by the mouth of all the prophets, that his Christ
would suffer, he thus fulfilled."
(Acts 3:18)

"Remember this and stand firm, recall it to mind, you transgressors,
remember the former things of old; for I am God, and there is no other;
I am God, and there is none like me, declaring the end from the
beginning and from ancient times things not yet done, saying, 'My
counsel shall stand, and I will accomplish all my purpose.'"
(Isaiah 46:8-10)

W.T.S., cc4-The Lamp of Golden Truth!*

2016-10-18 23:43:27 UTC

Bob <***@null.null> wrote in news:nu5j76$ssk$***@gioia.aioe.org:

<https://sphericalbullshit.wordpress.com/2013/05/02/what-i-would-say-to-
creationists-if-i-was-more-of-a-dick/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zascach>

<https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK6360/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zvyyhxn>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_replication>

<http://tinyurl.com/goxgec9>

<https://edthemanicstreetpreacher.wordpress.com/2010/04/09/dawkins-
berlinski/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zmv3xf2>

<https://www.theguardian.com/science/head-quarters/2014/feb/06/22-
answers-creationism-evolution-bill-nye-ken-ham-debate>

<http://tinyurl.com/hwjf83d>

<http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/dumb-things-creationists-
say/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zq9wt5k>

<http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/20/magazine/unintelligent-design.html?_r=
0>

<http://tinyurl.com/h7ubjta>

<http://www.eoht.info/page/Creationism+scientists+ranked+by+idiocy>

<http://tinyurl.com/h5y2gao>

<https://www.chess.com/groups/forumview/18-creationist-arguments-
debunked>

<http://tinyurl.com/zb7sfyr>

<http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Category:Creationism>

<http://tinyurl.com/zt8dycq>

<https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/jan/28/creation-origin-life-
future-adam-rutherford-review>

<http://tinyurl.com/hsj6u6y>

<http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2016/06/07/what-do-physicists-
think-of-michio-kaku/>

<http://tinyurl.com/j32bskg>

<http://undsci.berkeley.edu/article/howscienceworks_16>

<http://tinyurl.com/3p4e7mx>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Darwin>

<http://tinyurl.com/jyzjfar>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregor_Mendel>

<http://tinyurl.com/pcqylyj>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution>

<http://tinyurl.com/7vw8ozk>

<http://www.famousscientists.org/charles-darwin/>

<http://tinyurl.com/jpr7p5v>

<http://darwin-online.org.uk/biography.html>

<http://tinyurl.com/5p6znj>

"Creation science" has not entered the curriculum for a reason so
simple and so basic that we often forget to mention it: because it is
false, and because good teachers understand exactly why it is false.
What could be more destructive of that most fragile yet most precious
commodity in our entire intellectual heritage -- good teaching -- than
a bill forcing honourable teachers to sully their sacred trust by
granting equal treatment to a doctrine not only known to be false, but
calculated to undermine any general understanding of science as an
enterprise? - Stephen Jay Gould.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Jay_Gould>

<http://tinyurl.com/jc3ckub>

<http://www.journals.elsevier.com/journal-of-human-evolution>

<http://tinyurl.com/jsalxfe>

<http://www.annualreviews.org/journal/ecolsys>

<http://tinyurl.com/z8o6zan>

<http://www.cell.com/trends/ecology-evolution/home>

<http://tinyurl.com/pwg6fak>

http://youtu.be/F1ibEaIPtMk

<http://tinyurl.com/hy7xymb>

<http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Falldidit#Falldidit>

<http://tinyurl.com/z4z77ra>

Mitchell Holman

2016-10-19 01:58:59 UTC

Post by Mitchell Holman
If the product is flawed do you blame
the product or the designer?

You're not looking at the "Big Picture". You're just looking at a
small corner.

If you cannot explain your religion
just say so, we will understand.

Oh, yes, the "I can't explain my position
so I won't post it here" defense.

Because you alone are of The Elect.

Do you know how desperate that sounds?

Davej

2016-10-17 18:18:11 UTC

Post by Andrew
Do you believe in "goo to you"?

Do you still believe in Ye Floode?

I see you don't deny believing in "goo
to you"...the great deception accepted
by the gullible masses who have been
deceived by their Darwinistic teachers.

No moron, if they have been "deceived" then they
have been deceived by your "trickster" God who
created various irrefutable lines of evidence
which support the "goo-to-you" hypothesis.

Why would your God fabricate evidence in an
effort to deceive people and compound this fraud
with threats of eternal, infinite punishment?

Andrew

2016-10-17 18:29:35 UTC

Post by Davej

Post by Andrew
Do you believe in "goo to you"?

Do you still believe in Ye Floode?

I see you don't deny believing in "goo
to you"...the great deception accepted
by the gullible masses who have been
deceived by their Darwinistic teachers.

No moron, if they have been "deceived" then they
have been deceived by your "trickster" God who
created various irrefutable lines of evidence
which support the "goo-to-you" hypothesis.
Why would your God fabricate evidence in an
effort to deceive people and compound this fraud
with threats of eternal, infinite punishment?

Another "goo to you" believer.

W.T.S., cc4-The Lamp of Golden Truth!*

2016-10-17 21:22:01 UTC

Post by Andrew
Do you believe in "goo to you"?

Do you still believe in Ye Floode?

I see you don't deny believing in "goo
to you"...the great deception accepted
by the gullible masses who have been
deceived by their Darwinistic teachers.

No moron, if they have been "deceived" then they
have been deceived by your "trickster" God who
created various irrefutable lines of evidence
which support the "goo-to-you" hypothesis.
Why would your God fabricate evidence in an
effort to deceive people and compound this fraud
with threats of eternal, infinite punishment?

Another "goo to you" believer.

No, a believer in the truth:

<https://sphericalbullshit.wordpress.com/2013/05/02/what-i-would-say-to-
creationists-if-i-was-more-of-a-dick/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zascach>

<https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK6360/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zvyyhxn>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_replication>

<http://tinyurl.com/goxgec9>

<https://edthemanicstreetpreacher.wordpress.com/2010/04/09/dawkins-
berlinski/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zmv3xf2>

<https://www.theguardian.com/science/head-quarters/2014/feb/06/22-
answers-creationism-evolution-bill-nye-ken-ham-debate>

<http://tinyurl.com/hwjf83d>

<http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/dumb-things-creationists-
say/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zq9wt5k>

<http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/20/magazine/unintelligent-design.html?
_r=0>

<http://tinyurl.com/h7ubjta>

<http://www.eoht.info/page/Creationism+scientists+ranked+by+idiocy>

<http://tinyurl.com/h5y2gao>

<https://www.chess.com/groups/forumview/18-creationist-arguments-
debunked>

<http://tinyurl.com/zb7sfyr>

<http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Category:Creationism>

<http://tinyurl.com/zt8dycq>

<https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/jan/28/creation-origin-life-
future-adam-rutherford-review>

<http://tinyurl.com/hsj6u6y>

<http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2016/06/07/what-do-physicists-
think-of-michio-kaku/>

<http://tinyurl.com/j32bskg>

<http://undsci.berkeley.edu/article/howscienceworks_16>

<http://tinyurl.com/3p4e7mx>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Darwin>

<http://tinyurl.com/jyzjfar>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregor_Mendel>

<http://tinyurl.com/pcqylyj>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution>

<http://tinyurl.com/7vw8ozk>

<http://www.famousscientists.org/charles-darwin/>

<http://tinyurl.com/jpr7p5v>

<http://darwin-online.org.uk/biography.html>

<http://tinyurl.com/5p6znj>

"Creation science" has not entered the curriculum for a reason so
simple and so basic that we often forget to mention it: because it is
false, and because good teachers understand exactly why it is false.
What could be more destructive of that most fragile yet most precious
commodity in our entire intellectual heritage -- good teaching -- than
a bill forcing honourable teachers to sully their sacred trust by
granting equal treatment to a doctrine not only known to be false, but
calculated to undermine any general understanding of science as an
enterprise? - Stephen Jay Gould.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Jay_Gould>

<http://tinyurl.com/jc3ckub>

<http://www.journals.elsevier.com/journal-of-human-evolution>

<http://tinyurl.com/jsalxfe>

<http://www.annualreviews.org/journal/ecolsys>

<http://tinyurl.com/z8o6zan>

<http://www.cell.com/trends/ecology-evolution/home>

<http://tinyurl.com/pwg6fak>

http://youtu.be/F1ibEaIPtMk

<http://tinyurl.com/hy7xymb>

<http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Falldidit#Falldidit>

<http://tinyurl.com/z4z77ra>

Gronk

2016-10-30 23:47:35 UTC

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

In over 150 years, no one has succeeded in falsifying
evolution,

Do you believe in "goo to you"?

Do you still believe in Ye Floode?

I see you don't deny believing in "goo
to you"...the great deception accepted
by the gullible masses who have been
deceived by their Darwinistic teachers.
And yes, I believe in the great Deluge
that came upon the antediluvians for
their incorrigible wickedness and evil.

So even babies in the womb were killed?

How did kangaroos make it to the ark?

Where did the trillions of gallons of water come form,
enough to cover Mount Everest?

How did the land plants survive under water?

How did the kangaroos make it back to Australia?

How did fish survive? (Yes, all that non salt water
mixing with salt water)

Were all the (so-called) races on the ark?

Bob

2016-10-31 00:00:58 UTC

Post by Gronk
So even babies in the womb were killed?
How did kangaroos make it to the ark?
Where did the trillions of gallons of water come form,
enough to cover Mount Everest?
How did the land plants survive under water?
How did the kangaroos make it back to Australia?
How did fish survive? (Yes, all that non salt water
mixing with salt water)
Were all the (so-called) races on the ark?

Typical reaction from someone who doesn't know God.

Smiler

2016-10-31 17:21:10 UTC

Post by Gronk
So even babies in the womb were killed?
How did kangaroos make it to the ark?
Where did the trillions of gallons of water come form,
enough to cover Mount Everest?
How did the land plants survive under water?
How did the kangaroos make it back to Australia?
How did fish survive? (Yes, all that non salt water mixing with salt
water)
Were all the (so-called) races on the ark?

Typical reaction from someone who doesn't know God.

Typical reaction from someone who can't answer the questions.

--
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

Jeanne Douglas

2016-10-31 18:55:51 UTC

Post by Gronk
So even babies in the womb were killed?
How did kangaroos make it to the ark?
Where did the trillions of gallons of water come form,
enough to cover Mount Everest?
How did the land plants survive under water?
How did the kangaroos make it back to Australia?
How did fish survive? (Yes, all that non salt water mixing with salt
water)
Were all the (so-called) races on the ark?

Typical reaction from someone who doesn't know God.

Then you should explain it by answering the questions. That's what
normal human beings do.

Post by Smiler
Typical reaction from someone who can't answer the questions.

Yep.

--
JD

I'm a "nasty woman" and I vote.

Bob

2016-10-31 21:31:41 UTC

Post by Gronk
So even babies in the womb were killed?
How did kangaroos make it to the ark?
Where did the trillions of gallons of water come form,
enough to cover Mount Everest?
How did the land plants survive under water?
How did the kangaroos make it back to Australia?
How did fish survive? (Yes, all that non salt water mixing with salt
water)
Were all the (so-called) races on the ark?

Typical reaction from someone who doesn't know God.

Typical reaction from someone who can't answer the questions.

I can answer them. It's just, well, you know, if he has to ask them
then he doesn't need to know.

Or, another way of putting it, if he was meant to know the answer
then he would already know the answer, and wouldn't have to ask.

"Do not give dogs what is holy, and do not throw your pearls before pigs."
(Matthew 7:6)

Got it?

Smiler

2016-11-01 00:39:07 UTC

Post by Gronk
So even babies in the womb were killed?
How did kangaroos make it to the ark?
Where did the trillions of gallons of water come form,
enough to cover Mount Everest?
How did the land plants survive under water?
How did the kangaroos make it back to Australia?
How did fish survive? (Yes, all that non salt water mixing with salt
water)
Were all the (so-called) races on the ark?

Typical reaction from someone who doesn't know God.

Typical reaction from someone who can't answer the questions.

I can answer them.

No you can't, liar.

Post by Bob
It's just, well, you know, if he has to ask them then he doesn't need to
know.

Another excuse.

Post by Bob
Or, another way of putting it, if he was meant to know the answer then
he would already know the answer, and wouldn't have to ask.

Even more excuses.

<snip bible babble>

Post by Bob
Got it?

Yep. I got it that you can't answer the questions.

--
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

W.T.S., ghq3The Lamp of Golden Truth!*

2016-11-01 01:20:19 UTC

Post by Gronk
So even babies in the womb were killed?
How did kangaroos make it to the ark?
Where did the trillions of gallons of water come form,
enough to cover Mount Everest?
How did the land plants survive under water?
How did the kangaroos make it back to Australia?
How did fish survive? (Yes, all that non salt water mixing with
salt water)
Were all the (so-called) races on the ark?

Typical reaction from someone who doesn't know God.

Typical reaction from someone who can't answer the questions.

I can answer them. It's just, well, you know, if he has to ask them
then he doesn't need to know.o
Or, another way of putting it, if he was meant to know the answer
then he would already know the answer, and wouldn't have to ask.
"Do not give dogs what is holy, and do not throw your pearls before
pigs." (Matthew 7:6)
Got it?

Yes, do you? Educate yourself:

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitzmiller_v._Dover_Area_School_District>

<http://tinyurl.com/bmxa4rc>

<https://sphericalbullshit.wordpress.com/2013/05/02/what-i-would-say-
to-creationists-if-i-was-more-of-a-dick/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zascach>

<http://americanloons.blogspot.com/search?q=stephen+myers>

<http://tinyurl.com/zlcp8u9>

<http://donaldprothero.com/quotes.html>

<http://tinyurl.com/hp2vd4v>

<http://americanloons.blogspot.com/search?q=Lee+Strobel%27s>

<http://tinyurl.com/zbl54ww>

<http://tinyurl.com/j9nkey5>

<https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK6360/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zvyyhxn>

<http://listverse.com/2011/11/19/8-examples-of-evolution-in-action/>

<http://tinyurl.com/c72j7wv>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_replication>

<http://tinyurl.com/goxgec9>

<https://edthemanicstreetpreacher.wordpress.com/2010/04/09/dawkins-
berlinski/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zmv3xf2>

<https://www.theguardian.com/science/head-quarters/2014/feb/06/22-
answers-creationism-evolution-bill-nye-ken-ham-debate>

<http://tinyurl.com/hwjf83d>

<http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/dumb-things-creationists-
say/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zq9wt5k>

<http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/20/magazine/unintelligent-design.html?
_r=0>

<http://tinyurl.com/h7ubjta>

<http://www.eoht.info/page/Creationism+scientists+ranked+by+idiocy>

<http://tinyurl.com/h5y2gao>

<https://www.chess.com/groups/forumview/18-creationist-arguments-
debunked>

<http://tinyurl.com/zb7sfyr>

<http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Category:Creationism>

<http://tinyurl.com/zt8dycq>

<https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/jan/28/creation-origin-life-
future-adam-rutherford-review>

<http://tinyurl.com/hsj6u6y>

<http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2016/06/07/what-do-physicists-
think-of-michio-kaku/>

<http://tinyurl.com/j32bskg>

<http://undsci.berkeley.edu/article/howscienceworks_16>

<http://tinyurl.com/3p4e7mx>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Darwin>

<http://tinyurl.com/jyzjfar>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregor_Mendel>

<http://tinyurl.com/pcqylyj>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution>

<http://tinyurl.com/7vw8ozk>

<http://www.famousscientists.org/charles-darwin/>

<http://tinyurl.com/jpr7p5v>

<http://darwin-online.org.uk/biography.html>

<http://tinyurl.com/5p6znj>

"Creation science" has not entered the curriculum for a reason so
simple and so basic that we often forget to mention it: because it is
false, and because good teachers understand exactly why it is false.
What could be more destructive of that most fragile yet most precious
commodity in our entire intellectual heritage -- good teaching -- than
a bill forcing honourable teachers to sully their sacred trust by
granting equal treatment to a doctrine not only known to be false, but
calculated to undermine any general understanding of science as an
enterprise? - Stephen Jay Gould.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Jay_Gould>

<http://tinyurl.com/jc3ckub>

<http://www.journals.elsevier.com/journal-of-human-evolution>

<http://tinyurl.com/jsalxfe>

<http://americanloons.blogspot.com/search?q=macarthur>

<http://tinyurl.com/jenrqkq>

<http://www.annualreviews.org/journal/ecolsys>

<http://tinyurl.com/z8o6zan>

<http://www.cell.com/trends/ecology-evolution/home>

<http://tinyurl.com/pwg6fak>

http://youtu.be/F1ibEaIPtMk

<http://tinyurl.com/hy7xymb>

<http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Falldidit#Falldidit>

<http://tinyurl.com/z4z77ra>

Gronk

2016-11-06 06:23:32 UTC

Typical reaction from someone who doesn't know God.

Typical dodging from someone who doesn't like to think...

Smiler

2016-11-07 01:25:40 UTC

Post by Gronk

Post by Gronk
So even babies in the womb were killed?
How did kangaroos make it to the ark?
Where did the trillions of gallons of water come form,
enough to cover Mount Everest?
How did the land plants survive under water?
How did the kangaroos make it back to Australia?
How did fish survive? (Yes, all that non salt water mixing with salt
water)
Were all the (so-called) races on the ark?

Typical reaction from someone who doesn't know God.

Typical dodging from someone who doesn't like to think...

It's more a disability than a dislike.

--
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

Jeanne Douglas

2016-10-31 18:55:11 UTC

Post by Gronk

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

In over 150 years, no one has succeeded in falsifying
evolution,

Do you believe in "goo to you"?

Do you still believe in Ye Floode?

I see you don't deny believing in "goo
to you"...the great deception accepted
by the gullible masses who have been
deceived by their Darwinistic teachers.
And yes, I believe in the great Deluge
that came upon the antediluvians for
their incorrigible wickedness and evil.

So even babies in the womb were killed?
How did kangaroos make it to the ark?
Where did the trillions of gallons of water come form,
enough to cover Mount Everest?

The 3 to 4 times the entire volume of water on the planet.

Post by Gronk
How did the land plants survive under water?

And what could those on the ark eat when the flood was over, since
everything on land and sea was dead and the soil was scoured down to the
bare bedrock?

Post by Gronk
How did the kangaroos make it back to Australia?
How did fish survive? (Yes, all that non salt water
mixing with salt water)

Salt with fresh. Salt water life would have died from the contamination
with fresh water and fresh water life would have died from the
contaminatin with salt water.

Post by Gronk
Were all the (so-called) races on the ark?

In 8 people? BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

--
JD

I'm a "nasty woman" and I vote.

Gronk

2016-11-06 06:25:45 UTC

Post by Gronk

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

In over 150 years, no one has succeeded in falsifying
evolution,

Do you believe in "goo to you"?

Do you still believe in Ye Floode?

I see you don't deny believing in "goo
to you"...the great deception accepted
by the gullible masses who have been
deceived by their Darwinistic teachers.
And yes, I believe in the great Deluge
that came upon the antediluvians for
their incorrigible wickedness and evil.

So even babies in the womb were killed?
How did kangaroos make it to the ark?
Where did the trillions of gallons of water come form,
enough to cover Mount Everest?

The 3 to 4 times the entire volume of water on the planet.

Post by Gronk
How did the land plants survive under water?

And what could those on the ark eat when the flood was over, since
everything on land and sea was dead and the soil was scoured down to the
bare bedrock?

What do you think happened to the unicorns and dinosaurs?

Post by Gronk
How did the kangaroos make it back to Australia?
How did fish survive? (Yes, all that non salt water
mixing with salt water)

Salt with fresh. Salt water life would have died from the contamination
with fresh water and fresh water life would have died from the
contaminatin with salt water.

So much for the dove bringing back a branch - which regrew really
quickly, didn't it?

Post by Gronk
Were all the (so-called) races on the ark?

In 8 people? BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Um - they ... evolved?

Gordon

2016-10-19 23:53:35 UTC

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

In over 150 years, no one has succeeded in falsifying evolution, Boob.
Given your lack of education and obviously low IQ, I think it's safe
to say you won't either.

Evolution has been demonstrated in our domestic animal breeds. Natural
selection, without human intervention accomplishes the same sort of
genetic changes over a span of several generations.

But this does not preclude God from using the laws that govern
evolution to accomplish His very complex program of developing the
numerous species and evolving them into the form that He wanted.

God's time scale is not the same as our time scale. Those evolutionary
processes that, from our geological records perspective, took a very
long time may have taken only a few years on God's time scale. Gordon

Christopher A. Lee

2016-10-20 00:35:32 UTC

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

In over 150 years, no one has succeeded in falsifying evolution, Boob.
Given your lack of education and obviously low IQ, I think it's safe
to say you won't either.

What fucking God, in the real world beyond your religious delusions,
in-your=face moeon?

John Baker

2016-10-20 01:11:09 UTC

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

In over 150 years, no one has succeeded in falsifying evolution, Boob.
Given your lack of education and obviously low IQ, I think it's safe
to say you won't either.

Evolution has been demonstrated in our domestic animal breeds. Natural
selection, without human intervention accomplishes the same sort of
genetic changes over a span of several generations.

Normally more like several hundred or several thousand, but
essentially correct.

Post by Gordon
But this does not preclude God from using the laws that govern
evolution to accomplish His very complex program of developing the
numerous species and evolving them into the form that He wanted.

Once again, you're correct in that evolution in and of itself does not
disprove the existence of a god, but neither is a god required - and
the lack of evidence for any such being or beings, which I'll point
out again, you yourself admitted, casts considerable doubt on the
claim.

Occam's Razor cautions against multiplying entities needlessly. If a
deity is not required to explain an observation, why invoke one?

Post by Gordon
God's time scale is not the same as our time scale. Those evolutionary
processes that, from our geological records perspective, took a very
long time may have taken only a few years on God's time scale. Gordon

AA #1898
Giver of No Fucks
Keeper of the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch

Christopher A. Lee

2016-10-20 15:08:25 UTC

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

In over 150 years, no one has succeeded in falsifying evolution, Boob.
Given your lack of education and obviously low IQ, I think it's safe
to say you won't either.

Evolution has been demonstrated in our domestic animal breeds. Natural
selection, without human intervention accomplishes the same sort of
genetic changes over a span of several generations.

Normally more like several hundred or several thousand, but
essentially correct.

Especially when there are already natural explanations.

But what Gordon the moron says, introduces all sorts of theological
difficulties.

Like the idea of a benevolent and loving god using the cruelty of
natural selection over billions of years, just so there could be
humans and other modern species.

This is what caused Darwin to lose his faith and become an agnostic.

Post by John Baker
Occam's Razor cautions against multiplying entities needlessly. If a
deity is not required to explain an observation, why invoke one?

It's easy to prove evolution - we've been doing that for the last
century and a half. But when he adds a magical superbeing to the mix,
he now has to prove that as well.

Like most of these morons, he can't grasp that the only people who
want to add his religion's unevidenced magical superbeing to the mix,
are its members.

And that no matter how seriously he takes it, he has to prove it
outside his religion without presuming its doctrines anmd tenets.

But he's too stupid.

Post by Gordon
God's

He's an idiot.

Mitchell Holman

2016-10-20 02:00:37 UTC

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

In over 150 years, no one has succeeded in falsifying evolution, Boob.
Given your lack of education and obviously low IQ, I think it's safe
to say you won't either.

If you accept that your god wanted the
current life forms you have accept he
wanted - and created - all the diseases
and parasites that afflict mankind.

Christopher A. Lee

2016-10-20 15:00:14 UTC

Post by Bob
http://youtu.be/UCwmebgjdd4

In over 150 years, no one has succeeded in falsifying evolution, Boob.
Given your lack of education and obviously low IQ, I think it's safe
to say you won't either.

WHAT FUCKING GOD, question-begging moron who does this to be
deliberately stupid and deliberately rude because he knows that
atheists aren't even closet Christians?

Deng Qi Feng

2016-10-19 16:29:37 UTC