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Evolutionists claim we came from monkeys
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Amazing Answers
2018-06-10 06:29:47 UTC
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads to mankind.

This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.

https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
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2018-06-10 09:38:49 UTC
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads to mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Can you draw a detailed chart, starting with the dust but no water, to draw how could human be created......so that we can laugh our guts out!!!
Tim
2018-06-10 10:22:01 UTC
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Here's a new one.
No, you posted the same thing yesterday.
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It's a link to a chart.
The same one from yesterday, The guy who produced it died 99 years ago.
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It's a yellow chart with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads to mankind.
No it isn't, moron.
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This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
It's science and it makes you emotional.
Yap Honghor
2018-06-11 02:29:30 UTC
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Here's a new one.
No, you posted the same thing yesterday.
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It's a link to a chart.
The same one from yesterday, The guy who produced it died 99 years ago.
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It's a yellow chart with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads to mankind.
No it isn't, moron.
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This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
It's science and it makes you emotional.
And so emotional that this donkey wants to bang its head against the solid wall, sort of committing suicide....
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2018-06-11 07:05:25 UTC
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Here's a new one.
No, you posted the same thing yesterday.
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It's a link to a chart.
The same one from yesterday, The guy who produced it died 99 years ago.
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It's a yellow chart with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads to mankind.
No it isn't, moron.
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This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
It's science and it makes you emotional.
And so emotional that this donkey wants to bang its head against the solid wall, sort of committing suicide....
You're still saying that we came from monkeys.
Malte Runz
2018-06-11 07:27:08 UTC
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Here's a new one.
No, you posted the same thing yesterday.
Post by Amazing Answers
It's a link to a chart.
The same one from yesterday, The guy who produced it died 99 years ago.
Post by Amazing Answers
It's a yellow chart with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads to mankind.
No it isn't, moron.
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This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
It's science and it makes you emotional.
And so emotional that this donkey wants to bang its head against the solid wall, sort of committing suicide....
You're still saying that we came from monkeys.
You believe a supernatural entity willed everything into existence
just the way they are now, so why does it matter to you whether we
call our ancestors 'ape' or 'monkey'?

Is it another case of 'there is not 100% consensus in the scientific
community on which term to use, so therefore I can claim it has been
scientifically proven that God did it!'?
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Tim
2018-06-11 07:29:27 UTC
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Here's a new one.
No, you posted the same thing yesterday.
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It's a link to a chart.
The same one from yesterday, The guy who produced it died 99 years ago.
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It's a yellow chart with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads to mankind.
No it isn't, moron.
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This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
It's science and it makes you emotional.
And so emotional that this donkey wants to bang its head against the solid wall, sort of committing suicide....
You're still saying that we came from monkeys.
You still believe that you're a donkey brain.
Amazing Answers
2018-06-15 01:31:40 UTC
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Here's a new one.
No, you posted the same thing yesterday.
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It's a link to a chart.
The same one from yesterday, The guy who produced it died 99 years ago.
Post by Amazing Answers
It's a yellow chart with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads to mankind.
No it isn't, moron.
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This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
It's science and it makes you emotional.
And so emotional that this donkey wants to bang its head against the solid wall, sort of committing suicide....
You're still saying that we came from monkeys.
You still believe that you're a donkey brain.
No, that's what you claim that you believe. Quite emotional.
Tim
2018-06-15 08:04:24 UTC
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Here's a new one.
No, you posted the same thing yesterday.
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It's a link to a chart.
The same one from yesterday, The guy who produced it died 99 years ago.
Post by Amazing Answers
It's a yellow chart with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads to mankind.
No it isn't, moron.
Post by Amazing Answers
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
It's science and it makes you emotional.
And so emotional that this donkey wants to bang its head against the solid wall, sort of committing suicide....
You're still saying that we came from monkeys.
You still believe that you're a donkey brain.
No, that's what you claim that you believe. Quite emotional.
No, you believe that you're a donkey brain.
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2018-06-15 14:30:48 UTC
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Here's a new one.
No, you posted the same thing yesterday.
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It's a link to a chart.
The same one from yesterday, The guy who produced it died 99 years ago.
Post by Amazing Answers
It's a yellow chart with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads to mankind.
No it isn't, moron.
Post by Amazing Answers
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
It's science and it makes you emotional.
And so emotional that this donkey wants to bang its head against the solid wall, sort of committing suicide....
You're still saying that we came from monkeys.
You still believe that you're a donkey brain.
No, that's what you claim that you believe. Quite emotional.
No, you believe that you're a donkey brain.
Why do you believe that I believe that when I don't believe that?
Tim
2018-06-15 21:04:29 UTC
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Here's a new one.
No, you posted the same thing yesterday.
Post by Amazing Answers
It's a link to a chart.
The same one from yesterday, The guy who produced it died 99 years ago.
Post by Amazing Answers
It's a yellow chart with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads to mankind.
No it isn't, moron.
Post by Amazing Answers
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
It's science and it makes you emotional.
And so emotional that this donkey wants to bang its head against the solid wall, sort of committing suicide....
You're still saying that we came from monkeys.
You still believe that you're a donkey brain.
No, that's what you claim that you believe. Quite emotional.
No, you believe that you're a donkey brain.
Why do you believe that I believe that when I don't believe that?
Why do you believe that I believe that humans evolved from monkeys when I don't believe that?
Amazing Answers
2018-06-16 03:54:03 UTC
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Here's a new one.
No, you posted the same thing yesterday.
Post by Amazing Answers
It's a link to a chart.
The same one from yesterday, The guy who produced it died 99 years ago.
Post by Amazing Answers
It's a yellow chart with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads to mankind.
No it isn't, moron.
Post by Amazing Answers
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
It's science and it makes you emotional.
And so emotional that this donkey wants to bang its head against the solid wall, sort of committing suicide....
You're still saying that we came from monkeys.
You still believe that you're a donkey brain.
No, that's what you claim that you believe. Quite emotional.
No, you believe that you're a donkey brain.
Why do you believe that I believe that when I don't believe that?
Why do you believe that I believe that humans evolved from monkeys when I don't believe that?
Because what you believe you came from that looked like a monkey and acted like a monkey was a monkey.
Malte Runz
2018-06-16 09:21:52 UTC
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Here's a new one.
No, you posted the same thing yesterday.
Post by Amazing Answers
It's a link to a chart.
The same one from yesterday, The guy who produced it died 99 years ago.
Post by Amazing Answers
It's a yellow chart with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads to mankind.
No it isn't, moron.
Post by Amazing Answers
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
It's science and it makes you emotional.
And so emotional that this donkey wants to bang its head against the solid wall, sort of committing suicide....
You're still saying that we came from monkeys.
You still believe that you're a donkey brain.
No, that's what you claim that you believe. Quite emotional.
No, you believe that you're a donkey brain.
Why do you believe that I believe that when I don't believe that?
Why do you believe that I believe that humans evolved from monkeys when I don't believe that?
Because what you believe you came from that looked like a monkey and acted like a monkey was a monkey.
What you fail to understand, it appears, is that those labels,
'monkey' and 'ape' are descriptive. Nature itself doesn't care what we
call things, and in this case neither should you. IOW you're only
bleating, like the good little sheep you are.
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Tim
2018-06-16 15:40:55 UTC
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Here's a new one.
No, you posted the same thing yesterday.
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It's a link to a chart.
The same one from yesterday, The guy who produced it died 99 years ago.
Post by Amazing Answers
It's a yellow chart with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads to mankind.
No it isn't, moron.
Post by Amazing Answers
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
It's science and it makes you emotional.
And so emotional that this donkey wants to bang its head against the solid wall, sort of committing suicide....
You're still saying that we came from monkeys.
You still believe that you're a donkey brain.
No, that's what you claim that you believe. Quite emotional.
No, you believe that you're a donkey brain.
Why do you believe that I believe that when I don't believe that?
Why do you believe that I believe that humans evolved from monkeys when I don't believe that?
Because what you believe you came from that looked like a monkey and acted like a monkey was a monkey.
So why don't you drink rubbing alcohol? It looks and acts like water.

You believe that you're a donkey brain.
Amazing Answers
2018-06-16 17:21:26 UTC
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Here's a new one.
No, you posted the same thing yesterday.
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It's a link to a chart.
The same one from yesterday, The guy who produced it died 99 years ago.
Post by Amazing Answers
It's a yellow chart with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads to mankind.
No it isn't, moron.
Post by Amazing Answers
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
It's science and it makes you emotional.
And so emotional that this donkey wants to bang its head against the solid wall, sort of committing suicide....
You're still saying that we came from monkeys.
You still believe that you're a donkey brain.
No, that's what you claim that you believe. Quite emotional.
No, you believe that you're a donkey brain.
Why do you believe that I believe that when I don't believe that?
Why do you believe that I believe that humans evolved from monkeys when I don't believe that?
Because what you believe you came from that looked like a monkey and acted like a monkey was a monkey.
So why don't you drink rubbing alcohol? It looks and acts like water.
You believe that you're a donkey brain.
you should not drink rubbing alcohol. it is deadly. you need to get saved Tim, for your own sake.
Cloud Hobbit
2018-06-11 08:12:31 UTC
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You're still saying that we came from monkeys.
So what?

How does that change anything for you?

Why does it matter? We are who we are and how we got to be is irrelevant to our lives.

Whether you accept it or not many advances have come from our understanding of evolution.

The evidence for it is accepted and well understood.

There is no evidence tha refutes it.

There's no conspiracy to keep the truth from the world, there's no need.

All you have done is demonstrate that science corrects its errors.
Yap Honghor
2018-06-11 11:37:38 UTC
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Here's a new one.
No, you posted the same thing yesterday.
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It's a link to a chart.
The same one from yesterday, The guy who produced it died 99 years ago.
Post by Amazing Answers
It's a yellow chart with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads to mankind.
No it isn't, moron.
Post by Amazing Answers
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
It's science and it makes you emotional.
And so emotional that this donkey wants to bang its head against the solid wall, sort of committing suicide....
You're still saying that we came from monkeys.
Human and them are cousins...we don't come from them.
But you donkey certainly isn;t related to them!
Michael Cole
2018-06-12 21:58:18 UTC
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The question of whether we descend from monkeys is purely semantic. The common ancestor of us and the extant monkeys was probably sufficiently monkey-like in appearance that one might colloquially refer to the creature as a monkey, though it would not closely resemble any modern species of monkey. Whether or not biologists would call the creature a monkey is another question. Now that we’ve cleared that one up we can start a lively debate on whether all vertebrates descend from fish, or have a common ancestor with the extant creatures we call fish. Then we can proceed to the truly deep question of whether Pluto should be called a planet or a dwarf planetoid. Nature does what it does and doesn’t care about the semantic categories we human apes find convient to organize our understanding of nature.
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2018-06-15 12:48:00 UTC
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Here's a new one.
No, you posted the same thing yesterday.
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It's a link to a chart.
The same one from yesterday, The guy who produced it died 99 years ago.
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It's a yellow chart with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads to mankind.
No it isn't, moron.
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This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
It's science and it makes you emotional.
And so emotional that this donkey wants to bang its head against the solid wall, sort of committing suicide....
You're still saying that we came from monkeys.
Only dishonest creationists claim that the theory of evolution posits that
humans descended from monkeys. And no amount of correction ever changes
their lies.

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2018-06-15 15:48:24 UTC
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Here's a new one.
No, you posted the same thing yesterday.
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It's a link to a chart.
The same one from yesterday, The guy who produced it died 99 years ago.
Post by Amazing Answers
It's a yellow chart with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads to mankind.
No it isn't, moron.
Post by Amazing Answers
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
It's science and it makes you emotional.
And so emotional that this donkey wants to bang its head against the solid wall, sort of committing suicide....
You're still saying that we came from monkeys.
Only dishonest creationists claim that the theory of evolution posits that
humans descended from monkeys. And no amount of correction ever changes
their lies.
Aron Ra argues that we're descended from monkeys*, and others will
insist that we're descended from apes. Monkey or ape, it's only
semantics.
Amazing Ass thinks the lack of consensus means we have no clue what
our ancestors were, and therefore creation is the only viable option.

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Here's a new one.
No, you posted the same thing yesterday.
Post by Amazing Answers
It's a link to a chart.
The same one from yesterday, The guy who produced it died 99 years ago.
Post by Amazing Answers
It's a yellow chart with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads to mankind.
No it isn't, moron.
Post by Amazing Answers
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
It's science and it makes you emotional.
And so emotional that this donkey wants to bang its head against the solid wall, sort of committing suicide....
You're still saying that we came from monkeys.
Only dishonest creationists claim that the theory of evolution posits that
humans descended from monkeys. And no amount of correction ever changes
their lies.
Aron Ra argues that we're descended from monkeys*, and others will
insist that we're descended from apes. Monkey or ape, it's only
semantics.
Amazing Ass thinks the lack of consensus means we have no clue what
our ancestors were, and therefore creation is the only viable option.
* http://youtu.be/UvFpU1Q3efU
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No, I just think old-time evolutionists were ashamed to admit that they believed that they came from monkeys. They wanted respect.
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2018-06-15 20:45:57 UTC
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Aron Ra argues that we're descended from monkeys*, and others will
insist that we're descended from apes. Monkey or ape, it's only
semantics.
Amazing Ass thinks the lack of consensus means we have no clue what
our ancestors were, and therefore creation is the only viable option.
No, I just think old-time evolutionists were ashamed to admit that
they believed that they came from monkeys. They wanted respect.
I'm still waiting for you to explain how Noah built the only object
which floated in the entire world, and how lions could survive on hay
for many, many months.
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2018-06-15 22:31:31 UTC
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I'm still waiting for you to explain how Noah built the only object
which floated in the entire world, and how lions could survive on
hay for many, many months.
The fact that you do not understand that does not negate the fact
that judgment come upon the antediluvian world, and will come
upon this generation also. Not by water this time, but rather fire.
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I'm still waiting for you to explain how Noah built the only object
which floated in the entire world, and how lions could survive on
hay for many, many months.
The fact that you do not understand that does not negate the fact
that judgment come upon the antediluvian world, ...
How is that a fact? Because it says so in the Bible?
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... and will come
upon this generation also. Not by water this time, but rather fire.
You're pervert.
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Davej
2018-06-16 00:37:44 UTC
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I'm still waiting for you to explain how Noah built the only object
which floated in the entire world, and how lions could survive on
hay for many, many months.
The fact that you do not understand that does not negate the fact
that judgment come upon the antediluvian world, and will come
upon this generation also. Not by water this time, but rather fire.
Not a bit of evidence to support your manure. Still no Jesus in the
sky after nearly 2000 years, and yet there you are waiting and hoping
for destruction with your Molotov cocktail. Your mental illness is a
threat to society.
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2018-06-16 10:08:44 UTC
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I'm still waiting for you to explain how Noah built the only object
which floated in the entire world, and how lions could survive on
hay for many, many months.
The fact that you do not understand that does not negate the fact
that judgment come upon the antediluvian world, and will come
upon this generation also. Not by water this time, but rather fire.
Backed into a corner, he reverts to quoting his myths.

That's all they ate: myths. Those from other cultures are
equally valid, that is to say they convey cultural ideas but
not necessarily anything of historical or scientific value.
some of the poetry involved may be beautiful or powerful.

Trying to backstop your arguments that way in a group set up
by and for atheists is laughable. It's "witnessing porn."
You get to say to yourself "Hey, Josh! I spread your word to
the heathens! Am I not your special, good boy!"

It isn't about discovering truth. It's about evangelizing,
proselytizing, and the ridiculous "Great Commission."

Shake the dust off those sandals and leave a.a be, gimboid.

Kevin R
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Here's a new one.
No, you posted the same thing yesterday.
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It's a link to a chart.
The same one from yesterday, The guy who produced it died 99 years ago.
Post by Amazing Answers
It's a yellow chart with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads to mankind.
No it isn't, moron.
Post by Amazing Answers
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
It's science and it makes you emotional.
And so emotional that this donkey wants to bang its head against the solid wall, sort of committing suicide....
You're still saying that we came from monkeys.
Only dishonest creationists claim that the theory of evolution posits that
humans descended from monkeys. And no amount of correction ever changes
their lies.
Aron Ra argues that we're descended from monkeys*, and others will
insist that we're descended from apes. Monkey or ape, it's only
semantics.
Amazing Ass thinks the lack of consensus means we have no clue what
our ancestors were, and therefore creation is the only viable option.
* http://youtu.be/UvFpU1Q3efU
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Malte Runz
No, I just think old-time evolutionists were ashamed to admit that they believed that they came from monkeys. ...
What gives you that idea? I think it was the hip thing to believe back
in the day.
... They wanted respect.
So, to avoid being mocked and ridiculed they said we descended from
apes instead?
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2018-06-10 10:42:45 UTC
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On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 23:29:47 -0700 (PDT), Amazing Answers
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from lemurs came Old world monkeys
You should be referring to "primates," there are some 200 species
including humans...and they evolved over some 65,000,000 years.

Someone with a Christian education, that is to say educated in the
ways of the dark ages, would find it very hard to understand. You, of
course, think god snapped his fingers and in a mere week all of
creation took place.
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2018-06-10 11:02:19 UTC
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from lemurs came Old world monkeys
You should be referring to "primates," there are some 200 species
including humans...and they evolved over some 65,000,000 years.
Someone with a Christian education, that is to say educated in the
ways of the dark ages, would find it very hard to understand. You, of
course, think god snapped his fingers and in a mere week all of
creation took place.
'That's a strawman! God didn't snap his fingers!!!'
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2018-06-10 12:33:27 UTC
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from lemurs came Old world monkeys
You should be referring to "primates," there are some 200 species
including humans...and they evolved over some 65,000,000 years.
Someone with a Christian education, that is to say educated in the
ways of the dark ages, would find it very hard to understand. You, of
course, think god snapped his fingers and in a mere week all of
creation took place.
'That's a strawman! God didn't snap his fingers!!!'
'Tis hard to snap noodly appendages.
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from lemurs came Old world monkeys
You should be referring to "primates," there are some 200 species
including humans...and they evolved over some 65,000,000 years.
Someone with a Christian education, that is to say educated in the ways
of the dark ages, would find it very hard to understand. You, of
course, think god snapped his fingers and in a mere week all of
creation took place.
'That's a strawman! God didn't snap his fingers!!!'
'Tis hard to snap noodly appendages.
Not once they're cooked.
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from lemurs came Old world monkeys
You should be referring to "primates," there are some 200 species
including humans...and they evolved over some 65,000,000 years.
Someone with a Christian education, that is to say educated in the ways
of the dark ages, would find it very hard to understand. You, of
course, think god snapped his fingers and in a mere week all of
creation took place.
'That's a strawman! God didn't snap his fingers!!!'
'Tis hard to snap noodly appendages.
Not once they're cooked.
A flap is about all you can get.
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Je pense, donc je suis Charlie.
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2018-06-10 21:33:55 UTC
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads to mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
The monkey in row two, column two is clearly about to have octuplets.


Oko
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2018-06-10 23:51:47 UTC
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart with a
diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and from that main
stock also came great apes. This all leads to mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
The monkey in row two, column two is clearly about to have octuplets.
Dogs give rise to dog kind, cows to cow kind, and monkeys do not give rise to
octopus kind.

God made man, but a monkey supplied the glue.
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart with a
diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and from that main
stock also came great apes. This all leads to mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
The monkey in row two, column two is clearly about to have octuplets.
Dogs give rise to dog kind, cows to cow kind, and monkeys do not give rise to
octopus kind.
God made man, but a monkey supplied the glue.
Ya, pixie use mostly [silica dust without carbon -abundance in Middle-east] to create invincible human...
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart with a
diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and from that
main stock also came great apes. This all leads to mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Can you point to an anatomic structure in humans that you couldn't get
from a lemur with a series of small changes? We'll wait.....
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putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it. -- Mark Twain
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart with a
diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and from that
main stock also came great apes. This all leads to mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Can you point to an anatomic structure in humans that you couldn't get
from a lemur with a series of small changes? We'll wait.....
The real point is that for every change however small, it is impossible
to happen without being designed by intelligence. Random mutation
doesn't change anything. It only absolutely destroys everything. There
is never any evolution. There is only intelligent design happening right
in front of the eyes of the evolutionists.
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart with a
diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and from that
main stock also came great apes. This all leads to mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Can you point to an anatomic structure in humans that you couldn't get
from a lemur with a series of small changes? We'll wait.....
The real point is that for every change however small, it is impossible
to happen without being designed by intelligence. Random mutation
doesn't change anything. It only absolutely destroys everything. There
is never any evolution. There is only intelligent design happening right
in front of the eyes of the evolutionists.
So you say. Now prove it.
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2018-06-13 02:55:49 UTC
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart with a
diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and from that
main stock also came great apes. This all leads to mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Can you point to an anatomic structure in humans that you couldn't get
from a lemur with a series of small changes? We'll wait.....
The real point is that for every change however small, it is impossible
to happen without being designed by intelligence. Random mutation
doesn't change anything. It only absolutely destroys everything. There
is never any evolution. There is only intelligent design happening right
in front of the eyes of the evolutionists.
So you say. Now prove it.
Very simple. The so called micro-evolution is in fact intelligent design
misunderstood and misinterpreted by the scientists. The beneficial DNA
change happening in bacteria cannot be a statistical random result. It
has to be a 100% purposeful response that is based on the construction
of new DNA sequence. It's not any random break down of the previous DNA.
It's a construction of new design. It's the result of building up
instead of breaking down.
--
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Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
MarkA
2018-06-13 16:06:00 UTC
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart with
a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and from
that main stock also came great apes. This all leads to mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Can you point to an anatomic structure in humans that you couldn't
get from a lemur with a series of small changes? We'll wait.....
The real point is that for every change however small, it is
impossible to happen without being designed by intelligence. Random
mutation doesn't change anything. It only absolutely destroys
everything. There is never any evolution. There is only intelligent
design happening right in front of the eyes of the evolutionists.
So you say. Now prove it.
Very simple. The so called micro-evolution is in fact intelligent design
misunderstood and misinterpreted by the scientists. The beneficial DNA
change happening in bacteria cannot be a statistical random result. It
has to be a 100% purposeful response that is based on the construction
of new DNA sequence. It's not any random break down of the previous DNA.
It's a construction of new design. It's the result of building up
instead of breaking down.
The other day, I found ants in my kitchen. One of my kids had left a
drop of maple syrup on the floor, that had gone unnoticed during
cleanup. Now, there was a column of ants, going to and from the drop.
The column went to the nearby baseboard, then into the basement, and
eventually to a small crack in the foundation wall. From there, it went
outside to their nearby nest.

My creationist friend looked at the ants, and marveled at how there must
be a super-intelligent ant in the nest, with detailed knowledge of the
construction of my house, who somehow *knew* there would be food on the
kitchen floor. He started praying to the ant-god to spare his life.

My scientific friend quietly asked if it wasn't more likely that there
were thousands of ants, that randomly explore their environment, and,
when they found a crack in the wall, followed it, explored some more, and
eventually stumbled upon the syrup in the kitchen? Once they found the
syrup, they left a chemical trail for other ants to follow, until
eventually, thousands of ants were devoted to following the trail between
the nest and the syrup?

My creationist friend shouted "blasphemer!!!", insisted that such a thing
was not possible without an intelligent designer. I asked him to explain
why the series of very ordinary events described by my scientific friend
could not possibly lead to the observed outcome. I asked him to explain
why he had to invoke an unknown, unseen, "super-ant" to explain something
so mundane. I'm still waiting for his answer.
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turns out that God hates all the same people you do. -- Anne Lamott
Bob
2018-06-13 16:16:49 UTC
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart with
a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and from
that main stock also came great apes. This all leads to mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Can you point to an anatomic structure in humans that you couldn't
get from a lemur with a series of small changes? We'll wait.....
The real point is that for every change however small, it is
impossible to happen without being designed by intelligence. Random
mutation doesn't change anything. It only absolutely destroys
everything. There is never any evolution. There is only intelligent
design happening right in front of the eyes of the evolutionists.
So you say. Now prove it.
Very simple. The so called micro-evolution is in fact intelligent design
misunderstood and misinterpreted by the scientists. The beneficial DNA
change happening in bacteria cannot be a statistical random result. It
has to be a 100% purposeful response that is based on the construction
of new DNA sequence. It's not any random break down of the previous DNA.
It's a construction of new design. It's the result of building up
instead of breaking down.
The other day, I found ants in my kitchen. One of my kids had left a
drop of maple syrup on the floor, that had gone unnoticed during
cleanup. Now, there was a column of ants, going to and from the drop.
The column went to the nearby baseboard, then into the basement, and
eventually to a small crack in the foundation wall. From there, it went
outside to their nearby nest.
My creationist friend looked at the ants, and marveled at how there must
be a super-intelligent ant in the nest, with detailed knowledge of the
construction of my house, who somehow *knew* there would be food on the
kitchen floor. He started praying to the ant-god to spare his life.
My scientific friend quietly asked if it wasn't more likely that there
were thousands of ants, that randomly explore their environment, and,
when they found a crack in the wall, followed it, explored some more, and
eventually stumbled upon the syrup in the kitchen? Once they found the
syrup, they left a chemical trail for other ants to follow, until
eventually, thousands of ants were devoted to following the trail between
the nest and the syrup?
My creationist friend shouted "blasphemer!!!", insisted that such a thing
was not possible without an intelligent designer. I asked him to explain
why the series of very ordinary events described by my scientific friend
could not possibly lead to the observed outcome. I asked him to explain
why he had to invoke an unknown, unseen, "super-ant" to explain something
so mundane. I'm still waiting for his answer.
Would you ask your "creationist friend" if you could send me his
email address?

I would like very much just to ask him a few questions?

Thank-you for asking him.
MarkA
2018-06-13 21:42:49 UTC
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart
with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and
from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads to
mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Can you point to an anatomic structure in humans that you couldn't
get from a lemur with a series of small changes? We'll wait.....
The real point is that for every change however small, it is
impossible to happen without being designed by intelligence. Random
mutation doesn't change anything. It only absolutely destroys
everything. There is never any evolution. There is only intelligent
design happening right in front of the eyes of the evolutionists.
So you say. Now prove it.
Very simple. The so called micro-evolution is in fact intelligent
design misunderstood and misinterpreted by the scientists. The
beneficial DNA change happening in bacteria cannot be a statistical
random result. It has to be a 100% purposeful response that is based
on the construction of new DNA sequence. It's not any random break
down of the previous DNA.
It's a construction of new design. It's the result of building up
instead of breaking down.
The other day, I found ants in my kitchen. One of my kids had left a
drop of maple syrup on the floor, that had gone unnoticed during
cleanup. Now, there was a column of ants, going to and from the drop.
The column went to the nearby baseboard, then into the basement, and
eventually to a small crack in the foundation wall. From there, it
went outside to their nearby nest.
My creationist friend looked at the ants, and marveled at how there
must be a super-intelligent ant in the nest, with detailed knowledge of
the construction of my house, who somehow *knew* there would be food on
the kitchen floor. He started praying to the ant-god to spare his
life.
My scientific friend quietly asked if it wasn't more likely that there
were thousands of ants, that randomly explore their environment, and,
when they found a crack in the wall, followed it, explored some more,
and eventually stumbled upon the syrup in the kitchen? Once they found
the syrup, they left a chemical trail for other ants to follow, until
eventually, thousands of ants were devoted to following the trail
between the nest and the syrup?
My creationist friend shouted "blasphemer!!!", insisted that such a
thing was not possible without an intelligent designer. I asked him to
explain why the series of very ordinary events described by my
scientific friend could not possibly lead to the observed outcome. I
asked him to explain why he had to invoke an unknown, unseen,
"super-ant" to explain something so mundane. I'm still waiting for his
answer.
Would you ask your "creationist friend" if you could send me his email
address?
I would like very much just to ask him a few questions?
Thank-you for asking him.
I asked. He recommended that you direct your questions to the Institute
for Creation Research, instead.
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turns out that God hates all the same people you do. -- Anne Lamott
Bob
2018-06-15 23:29:24 UTC
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart
with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and
from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads to
mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Can you point to an anatomic structure in humans that you couldn't
get from a lemur with a series of small changes? We'll wait.....
The real point is that for every change however small, it is
impossible to happen without being designed by intelligence. Random
mutation doesn't change anything. It only absolutely destroys
everything. There is never any evolution. There is only intelligent
design happening right in front of the eyes of the evolutionists.
So you say. Now prove it.
Very simple. The so called micro-evolution is in fact intelligent
design misunderstood and misinterpreted by the scientists. The
beneficial DNA change happening in bacteria cannot be a statistical
random result. It has to be a 100% purposeful response that is based
on the construction of new DNA sequence. It's not any random break
down of the previous DNA.
It's a construction of new design. It's the result of building up
instead of breaking down.
The other day, I found ants in my kitchen. One of my kids had left a
drop of maple syrup on the floor, that had gone unnoticed during
cleanup. Now, there was a column of ants, going to and from the drop.
The column went to the nearby baseboard, then into the basement, and
eventually to a small crack in the foundation wall. From there, it
went outside to their nearby nest.
My creationist friend looked at the ants, and marveled at how there
must be a super-intelligent ant in the nest, with detailed knowledge of
the construction of my house, who somehow *knew* there would be food on
the kitchen floor. He started praying to the ant-god to spare his
life.
My scientific friend quietly asked if it wasn't more likely that there
were thousands of ants, that randomly explore their environment, and,
when they found a crack in the wall, followed it, explored some more,
and eventually stumbled upon the syrup in the kitchen? Once they found
the syrup, they left a chemical trail for other ants to follow, until
eventually, thousands of ants were devoted to following the trail
between the nest and the syrup?
My creationist friend shouted "blasphemer!!!", insisted that such a
thing was not possible without an intelligent designer. I asked him to
explain why the series of very ordinary events described by my
scientific friend could not possibly lead to the observed outcome. I
asked him to explain why he had to invoke an unknown, unseen,
"super-ant" to explain something so mundane. I'm still waiting for his
answer.
Would you ask your "creationist friend" if you could send me his email
address?
I would like very much just to ask him a few questions?
Thank-you for asking him.
I asked. He recommended that you direct your questions to the Institute
for Creation Research, instead.
Alright, I emailed them, and told them about your "friend" and what he had
to say about there having to be a "super-intelligent ant" with "detailed
knowledge"
of the construction of your house, and how your "friend" began praying to
"the ant-god to spare his life."

And they emailed me and said that no matter you may think about your
"friend",
one thing is certain, and that is he is *NOT* a creationist, nor is he a
Christian.

So, I thought you'd want to know that about your "friend".
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2018-06-15 23:32:13 UTC
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart.   It's a yellow chart
with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and
from that main stock also came great apes.  This all leads to
mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Can you point to an anatomic structure in humans that you couldn't
get from a lemur with a series of small changes?  We'll wait.....
The real point is that for every change however small, it is
impossible to happen without being designed by intelligence. Random
mutation doesn't change anything. It only absolutely destroys
everything. There is never any evolution. There is only intelligent
design happening right in front of the eyes of the evolutionists.
So you say. Now prove it.
Very simple. The so called micro-evolution is in fact intelligent
design misunderstood and misinterpreted by the scientists. The
beneficial DNA change happening in bacteria cannot be a statistical
random result. It has to be a 100% purposeful response that is based
on the construction of new DNA sequence. It's not any random break
down of the previous DNA.
It's a construction of new design. It's the result of building up
instead of breaking down.
The other day, I found ants in my kitchen.  One of my kids had left a
drop of maple syrup on the floor, that had gone unnoticed during
cleanup.  Now, there was a column of ants, going to and from the drop.
The column went to the nearby baseboard, then into the basement, and
eventually to a small crack in the foundation wall.  From there, it
went outside to their nearby nest.
My creationist friend looked at the ants, and marveled at how there
must be a super-intelligent ant in the nest, with detailed knowledge of
the construction of my house, who somehow *knew* there would be food on
the kitchen floor.  He started praying to the ant-god to spare his
life.
My scientific friend quietly asked if it wasn't more likely that there
were thousands of ants, that randomly explore their environment, and,
when they found a crack in the wall, followed it, explored some more,
and eventually stumbled upon the syrup in the kitchen?  Once they found
the syrup, they left a chemical trail for other ants to follow, until
eventually, thousands of ants were devoted to following the trail
between the nest and the syrup?
My creationist friend shouted "blasphemer!!!", insisted that such a
thing was not possible without an intelligent designer.  I asked him to
explain why the series of very ordinary events described by my
scientific friend could not possibly lead to the observed outcome.  I
asked him to explain why he had to invoke an unknown, unseen,
"super-ant" to explain something so mundane.  I'm still waiting for his
answer.
Would you ask your "creationist friend" if you could send me his email
address?
I would like very much just to ask him a few questions?
Thank-you for asking him.
I asked.  He recommended that you direct your questions to the Institute
for Creation Research, instead.
Alright, I emailed them, and told them about your "friend" and what he had
to say about there having to be a "super-intelligent ant" with "detailed
knowledge"
of the construction of your  house, and how your "friend" began praying to
"the ant-god to spare his life."
And they emailed me and said that no matter you may think about your
"friend",
one thing is certain, and that is he is *NOT* a creationist, nor is he a
Christian.
So, I thought you'd want to know that about your "friend".
well lets just have a look at that email they sent you
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I asked him to explain
why he had to invoke an unknown, unseen, "super-ant" to explain something
so mundane. I'm still waiting for his answer.
Up and at `em,.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atom_Ant

(And AA had the catchphrase BEFORE Radioactive Man!)

Kevin R
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2018-06-13 16:57:58 UTC
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart with
a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and from
that main stock also came great apes. This all leads to mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Can you point to an anatomic structure in humans that you couldn't
get from a lemur with a series of small changes? We'll wait.....
The real point is that for every change however small, it is
impossible to happen without being designed by intelligence. Random
mutation doesn't change anything. It only absolutely destroys
everything. There is never any evolution. There is only intelligent
design happening right in front of the eyes of the evolutionists.
So you say. Now prove it.
Very simple. The so called micro-evolution is in fact intelligent design
misunderstood and misinterpreted by the scientists. The beneficial DNA
change happening in bacteria cannot be a statistical random result. It
has to be a 100% purposeful response that is based on the construction
of new DNA sequence. It's not any random break down of the previous DNA.
It's a construction of new design. It's the result of building up
instead of breaking down.
The other day, I found ants in my kitchen. One of my kids had left a
drop of maple syrup on the floor, that had gone unnoticed during
cleanup. Now, there was a column of ants, going to and from the drop.
The column went to the nearby baseboard, then into the basement, and
eventually to a small crack in the foundation wall. From there, it went
outside to their nearby nest.
My creationist friend looked at the ants, and marveled at how there must
be a super-intelligent ant in the nest, with detailed knowledge of the
construction of my house, who somehow *knew* there would be food on the
kitchen floor. He started praying to the ant-god to spare his life.
My scientific friend quietly asked if it wasn't more likely that there
were thousands of ants, that randomly explore their environment, and,
when they found a crack in the wall, followed it, explored some more, and
eventually stumbled upon the syrup in the kitchen? Once they found the
syrup, they left a chemical trail for other ants to follow, until
eventually, thousands of ants were devoted to following the trail between
the nest and the syrup?
My creationist friend shouted "blasphemer!!!", insisted that such a thing
was not possible without an intelligent designer. I asked him to explain
why the series of very ordinary events described by my scientific friend
could not possibly lead to the observed outcome. I asked him to explain
why he had to invoke an unknown, unseen, "super-ant" to explain something
so mundane. I'm still waiting for his answer.
Unfortunately, what's happening within life is very different from
what's happening in the physical universe. In the universe, everything
happens by following the second law of thermodynamics. In life,
everything happens by moving against the second law of thermodynamics.
By following the natural physical law, everything happens by itself. By
moving against the natural physical law, everything must be based on
design because only intelligence is capable to defy and move against a
natural physical law.
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Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
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2018-06-13 17:10:57 UTC
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart with
a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and from
that main stock also came great apes. This all leads to mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Can you point to an anatomic structure in humans that you couldn't
get from a lemur with a series of small changes? We'll wait.....
The real point is that for every change however small, it is
impossible to happen without being designed by intelligence. Random
mutation doesn't change anything. It only absolutely destroys
everything. There is never any evolution. There is only intelligent
design happening right in front of the eyes of the evolutionists.
So you say. Now prove it.
Very simple. The so called micro-evolution is in fact intelligent design
misunderstood and misinterpreted by the scientists. The beneficial DNA
change happening in bacteria cannot be a statistical random result. It
has to be a 100% purposeful response that is based on the construction
of new DNA sequence. It's not any random break down of the previous DNA.
It's a construction of new design. It's the result of building up
instead of breaking down.
The other day, I found ants in my kitchen. One of my kids had left a
drop of maple syrup on the floor, that had gone unnoticed during
cleanup. Now, there was a column of ants, going to and from the drop.
The column went to the nearby baseboard, then into the basement, and
eventually to a small crack in the foundation wall. From there, it went
outside to their nearby nest.
My creationist friend looked at the ants, and marveled at how there must
be a super-intelligent ant in the nest, with detailed knowledge of the
construction of my house, who somehow *knew* there would be food on the
kitchen floor. He started praying to the ant-god to spare his life.
My scientific friend quietly asked if it wasn't more likely that there
were thousands of ants, that randomly explore their environment, and,
when they found a crack in the wall, followed it, explored some more, and
eventually stumbled upon the syrup in the kitchen? Once they found the
syrup, they left a chemical trail for other ants to follow, until
eventually, thousands of ants were devoted to following the trail between
the nest and the syrup?
My creationist friend shouted "blasphemer!!!", insisted that such a thing
was not possible without an intelligent designer. I asked him to explain
why the series of very ordinary events described by my scientific friend
could not possibly lead to the observed outcome. I asked him to explain
why he had to invoke an unknown, unseen, "super-ant" to explain something
so mundane. I'm still waiting for his answer.
Unfortunately, what's happening within life is very different from
what's happening in the physical universe. In the universe, everything
happens by following the second law of thermodynamics. In life,
everything happens by moving against the second law of thermodynamics.
By following the natural physical law, everything happens by itself. By
moving against the natural physical law, everything must be based on
design because only intelligence is capable to defy and move against a
natural physical law.
Spoken like a true chatterbot.
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart with
a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and from
that main stock also came great apes. This all leads to mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Can you point to an anatomic structure in humans that you couldn't
get from a lemur with a series of small changes? We'll wait.....
The real point is that for every change however small, it is
impossible to happen without being designed by intelligence. Random
mutation doesn't change anything. It only absolutely destroys
everything. There is never any evolution. There is only intelligent
design happening right in front of the eyes of the evolutionists.
So you say. Now prove it.
Very simple. The so called micro-evolution is in fact intelligent design
misunderstood and misinterpreted by the scientists. The beneficial DNA
change happening in bacteria cannot be a statistical random result. It
has to be a 100% purposeful response that is based on the construction
of new DNA sequence. It's not any random break down of the previous DNA.
It's a construction of new design. It's the result of building up
instead of breaking down.
The other day, I found ants in my kitchen. One of my kids had left a
drop of maple syrup on the floor, that had gone unnoticed during
cleanup. Now, there was a column of ants, going to and from the drop.
The column went to the nearby baseboard, then into the basement, and
eventually to a small crack in the foundation wall. From there, it went
outside to their nearby nest.
My creationist friend looked at the ants, and marveled at how there must
be a super-intelligent ant in the nest, with detailed knowledge of the
construction of my house, who somehow *knew* there would be food on the
kitchen floor. He started praying to the ant-god to spare his life.
My scientific friend quietly asked if it wasn't more likely that there
were thousands of ants, that randomly explore their environment, and,
when they found a crack in the wall, followed it, explored some more, and
eventually stumbled upon the syrup in the kitchen? Once they found the
syrup, they left a chemical trail for other ants to follow, until
eventually, thousands of ants were devoted to following the trail between
the nest and the syrup?
My creationist friend shouted "blasphemer!!!", insisted that such a thing
was not possible without an intelligent designer. I asked him to explain
why the series of very ordinary events described by my scientific friend
could not possibly lead to the observed outcome. I asked him to explain
why he had to invoke an unknown, unseen, "super-ant" to explain something
so mundane. I'm still waiting for his answer.
Unfortunately, what's happening within life is very different from
what's happening in the physical universe. In the universe, everything
happens by following the second law of thermodynamics. In life,
everything happens by moving against the second law of thermodynamics.
By following the natural physical law, everything happens by itself. By
moving against the natural physical law, everything must be based on
design because only intelligence is capable to defy and move against a
natural physical law.
Spoken like a true chatterbot.
Are you sure? I think such simple fact is so easy to understand that
everybody can see it as long as it's being pointed out. Life
demonstrates clock work precision and real time cooperation. There is
nothing random happening in life. Without design, there would be no
sugar production or DNA construction. There would be nothing to "mutate"
or "evolve".
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Are you sure? I think such simple fact is so easy to understand
that everybody can see it as long as it's being pointed out.
Life demonstrates clock work precision and real time cooperation.
GAWD carefully designed leprosy to increase the horror and misery
so that Jesus could cure a few people and receive gratitude.
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Are you sure? I think such simple fact is so easy to understand
that everybody can see it as long as it's being pointed out.
Life demonstrates clock work precision and real time cooperation.
GAWD carefully designed leprosy to increase the horror and misery
so that Jesus could cure a few people and receive gratitude.
Wrong. Disease is never the result of creation. It's the result of
corrupting the creation. It's always caused by an evil force with no
signs of intelligence. It can never have anything to do with God.
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Are you sure? I think such simple fact is so easy to understand
that everybody can see it as long as it's being pointed out.
Life demonstrates clock work precision and real time cooperation.
GAWD carefully designed leprosy to increase the horror and misery
so that Jesus could cure a few people and receive gratitude.
Wrong. Disease is never the result of creation. It's the result of
corrupting the creation. It's always caused by an evil force with no
signs of intelligence. It can never have anything to do with God.
Sorry, diseases are forms of life. In your fantasy only GAWD can
create new forms of life.
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Are you sure? I think such simple fact is so easy to understand
that everybody can see it as long as it's being pointed out.
Life demonstrates clock work precision and real time cooperation.
GAWD carefully designed leprosy to increase the horror and misery
so that Jesus could cure a few people and receive gratitude.
Wrong. Disease is never the result of creation. It's the result of
corrupting the creation. It's always caused by an evil force with no
signs of intelligence. It can never have anything to do with God.
Either grow up or fuck off.
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Sorry, diseases are forms of life. In your fantasy only GAWD can
create new forms of life.
Some are.
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2018-06-16 13:13:14 UTC
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Are you sure? I think such simple fact is so easy to understand
that everybody can see it as long as it's being pointed out.
Life demonstrates clock work precision and real time cooperation.
GAWD carefully designed leprosy to increase the horror and misery
so that Jesus could cure a few people and receive gratitude.
Wrong. Disease is never the result of creation. It's the result of
corrupting the creation. It's always caused by an evil force with no
signs of intelligence. It can never have anything to do with God.
Sorry, diseases are forms of life. In your fantasy only GAWD can
create new forms of life.
The life forms had no intention to cause any disease. The patients
destroyed their own natural immune system making themselves vulnerable
to be infected with disease. It's not really the fault of those life forms.
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart
with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and
from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads to
mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Can you point to an anatomic structure in humans that you couldn't
get from a lemur with a series of small changes? We'll wait.....
The real point is that for every change however small, it is
impossible to happen without being designed by intelligence. Random
mutation doesn't change anything. It only absolutely destroys
everything. There is never any evolution. There is only intelligent
design happening right in front of the eyes of the evolutionists.
So you say. Now prove it.
Very simple. The so called micro-evolution is in fact intelligent
design misunderstood and misinterpreted by the scientists. The
beneficial DNA change happening in bacteria cannot be a statistical
random result. It has to be a 100% purposeful response that is based
on the construction of new DNA sequence. It's not any random break
down of the previous DNA.
It's a construction of new design. It's the result of building up
instead of breaking down.
The other day, I found ants in my kitchen. One of my kids had left a
drop of maple syrup on the floor, that had gone unnoticed during
cleanup. Now, there was a column of ants, going to and from the drop.
The column went to the nearby baseboard, then into the basement, and
eventually to a small crack in the foundation wall. From there, it
went outside to their nearby nest.
My creationist friend looked at the ants, and marveled at how there
must be a super-intelligent ant in the nest, with detailed knowledge of
the construction of my house, who somehow *knew* there would be food on
the kitchen floor. He started praying to the ant-god to spare his
life.
My scientific friend quietly asked if it wasn't more likely that there
were thousands of ants, that randomly explore their environment, and,
when they found a crack in the wall, followed it, explored some more,
and eventually stumbled upon the syrup in the kitchen? Once they found
the syrup, they left a chemical trail for other ants to follow, until
eventually, thousands of ants were devoted to following the trail
between the nest and the syrup?
My creationist friend shouted "blasphemer!!!", insisted that such a
thing was not possible without an intelligent designer. I asked him to
explain why the series of very ordinary events described by my
scientific friend could not possibly lead to the observed outcome. I
asked him to explain why he had to invoke an unknown, unseen,
"super-ant" to explain something so mundane. I'm still waiting for his
answer.
Unfortunately, what's happening within life is very different from
what's happening in the physical universe. In the universe, everything
happens by following the second law of thermodynamics. In life,
everything happens by moving against the second law of thermodynamics.
By following the natural physical law, everything happens by itself. By
moving against the natural physical law, everything must be based on
design because only intelligence is capable to defy and move against a
natural physical law.
Here's an experiment you can try at home: stop consuming energy for a few
weeks, and see if the second law of thermodynamics doesn't apply to your
body, as well.
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turns out that God hates all the same people you do. -- Anne Lamott
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2018-06-14 12:06:19 UTC
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart
with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and
from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads to
mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Can you point to an anatomic structure in humans that you couldn't
get from a lemur with a series of small changes? We'll wait.....
The real point is that for every change however small, it is
impossible to happen without being designed by intelligence. Random
mutation doesn't change anything. It only absolutely destroys
everything. There is never any evolution. There is only intelligent
design happening right in front of the eyes of the evolutionists.
So you say. Now prove it.
Very simple. The so called micro-evolution is in fact intelligent
design misunderstood and misinterpreted by the scientists. The
beneficial DNA change happening in bacteria cannot be a statistical
random result. It has to be a 100% purposeful response that is based
on the construction of new DNA sequence. It's not any random break
down of the previous DNA.
It's a construction of new design. It's the result of building up
instead of breaking down.
The other day, I found ants in my kitchen. One of my kids had left a
drop of maple syrup on the floor, that had gone unnoticed during
cleanup. Now, there was a column of ants, going to and from the drop.
The column went to the nearby baseboard, then into the basement, and
eventually to a small crack in the foundation wall. From there, it
went outside to their nearby nest.
My creationist friend looked at the ants, and marveled at how there
must be a super-intelligent ant in the nest, with detailed knowledge of
the construction of my house, who somehow *knew* there would be food on
the kitchen floor. He started praying to the ant-god to spare his
life.
My scientific friend quietly asked if it wasn't more likely that there
were thousands of ants, that randomly explore their environment, and,
when they found a crack in the wall, followed it, explored some more,
and eventually stumbled upon the syrup in the kitchen? Once they found
the syrup, they left a chemical trail for other ants to follow, until
eventually, thousands of ants were devoted to following the trail
between the nest and the syrup?
My creationist friend shouted "blasphemer!!!", insisted that such a
thing was not possible without an intelligent designer. I asked him to
explain why the series of very ordinary events described by my
scientific friend could not possibly lead to the observed outcome. I
asked him to explain why he had to invoke an unknown, unseen,
"super-ant" to explain something so mundane. I'm still waiting for his
answer.
Unfortunately, what's happening within life is very different from
what's happening in the physical universe. In the universe, everything
happens by following the second law of thermodynamics. In life,
everything happens by moving against the second law of thermodynamics.
By following the natural physical law, everything happens by itself. By
moving against the natural physical law, everything must be based on
design because only intelligence is capable to defy and move against a
natural physical law.
Here's an experiment you can try at home: stop consuming energy for a few
weeks, and see if the second law of thermodynamics doesn't apply to your
body, as well.
The fact you need to wait for a few weeks to be sure I'm dead should be
the evidence of my ability to move against the second law in preserving
energy for future consumption. In the natural world, only life has such
ability. Nothing in the lifeless universe is capable to move against the
second law. This seemly natural and common ability of life is the key
for life to exist in this universe. Since nothing in the universe is
capable to provide life with such unique ability to preserve energy, it
can only come from God. There can be no other choice or explanation.
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart with
a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and from
that main stock also came great apes. This all leads to mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Can you point to an anatomic structure in humans that you couldn't
get from a lemur with a series of small changes? We'll wait.....
The real point is that for every change however small, it is
impossible to happen without being designed by intelligence. Random
mutation doesn't change anything. It only absolutely destroys
everything. There is never any evolution. There is only intelligent
design happening right in front of the eyes of the evolutionists.
So you say. Now prove it.
Very simple. The so called micro-evolution is in fact intelligent design
misunderstood and misinterpreted by the scientists.
So you say. Now prove it.
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The beneficial DNA change happening in bacteria
Beneficial only to the bacteria.
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cannot be a statistical random result. It
has to be a 100% purposeful response that is based on the construction
of new DNA sequence.
It's neither.
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It's not any random break down of the previous DNA.
It's a construction of new design. It's the result of building up
instead of breaking down.
Yep, and it's called evolution.
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart with
a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and from
that main stock also came great apes. This all leads to mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Can you point to an anatomic structure in humans that you couldn't
get from a lemur with a series of small changes? We'll wait.....
The real point is that for every change however small, it is
impossible to happen without being designed by intelligence. Random
mutation doesn't change anything. It only absolutely destroys
everything. There is never any evolution. There is only intelligent
design happening right in front of the eyes of the evolutionists.
So you say. Now prove it.
Very simple. The so called micro-evolution is in fact intelligent design
misunderstood and misinterpreted by the scientists.
So you say. Now prove it.
I did exactly that below.
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The beneficial DNA change happening in bacteria
Beneficial only to the bacteria.
Of course. Bacteria are lives also.
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cannot be a statistical random result. It
has to be a 100% purposeful response that is based on the construction
of new DNA sequence.
It's neither.
It's both if it's considered beneficial.
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Post by aaa
It's not any random break down of the previous DNA.
It's a construction of new design. It's the result of building up
instead of breaking down.
Yep, and it's called evolution.
There is nothing in evolution that explains how life can build itself
up. It actually calls it a complete accidental DNA fuck up.
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart
with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and
from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads to
mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Can you point to an anatomic structure in humans that you couldn't
get from a lemur with a series of small changes? We'll wait.....
The real point is that for every change however small, it is
impossible to happen without being designed by intelligence. Random
mutation doesn't change anything. It only absolutely destroys
everything. There is never any evolution. There is only intelligent
design happening right in front of the eyes of the evolutionists.
So you say. Now prove it.
Very simple. The so called micro-evolution is in fact intelligent
design misunderstood and misinterpreted by the scientists.
So you say. Now prove it.
I did exactly that below.
Nope. No proof there. Merely your unevidenced assertions.
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The beneficial DNA change happening in bacteria
Beneficial only to the bacteria.
Of course. Bacteria are lives also.
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cannot be a statistical random result. It has to be a 100% purposeful
response that is based on the construction of new DNA sequence.
It's neither.
It's both if it's considered beneficial.
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Post by aaa
It's not any random break down of the previous DNA.
It's a construction of new design. It's the result of building up
instead of breaking down.
Yep, and it's called evolution.
There is nothing in evolution that explains how life can build itself
up. It actually calls it a complete accidental DNA fuck up.
'a complete accidental DNA fuck up.' describes you to a tee.
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart with a
diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and from that
main stock also came great apes. This all leads to mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Can you point to an anatomic structure in humans that you couldn't get
from a lemur with a series of small changes? We'll wait.....
The real point is that for every change however small, it is impossible
to happen without being designed by intelligence. Random mutation
doesn't change anything. It only absolutely destroys everything. There
is never any evolution. There is only intelligent design happening right
in front of the eyes of the evolutionists.
That is trivially disproved. Suppose there is a gene that codes for a
specific protein, such as one strand of hemoglobin. Suppose that a
random change in a single amino acid causes the protein to function at a
slightly reduced level. Another, completely random change could cause
the original amino acid to be restored, thus improving the function of
the protein. This is a clear example of a random mutation improving the
function.
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart
with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys
and from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads
to mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Can you point to an anatomic structure in humans that you
couldn't get from a lemur with a series of small changes? We'll
wait.....
The real point is that for every change however small, it is
impossible to happen without being designed by intelligence. Random
mutation doesn't change anything. It only absolutely destroys
everything. There is never any evolution. There is only intelligent
design happening right in front of the eyes of the evolutionists.
That is trivially disproved. Suppose there is a gene that codes for
a specific protein, such as one strand of hemoglobin. Suppose that
a random change in a single amino acid causes the protein to function
at a slightly reduced level. Another, completely random change could
cause the original amino acid to be restored, thus improving the
function of the protein. This is a clear example of a random
mutation improving the function.
Your clear example is nothing but your suppositions. I question your
such suppositions. I believe none of your suppositions is random. They
all must be intelligently designed because they can only be the result
of construction of new order with the result of reduced entropy. They
can't happen randomly by pure chance because they can only be
accomplished by moving against the second law of thermodynamics. Moving
against a natural physical law can never be something random because
everything in the physical universe will only follow the natural
physical law.
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart
with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys
and from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads
to mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Can you point to an anatomic structure in humans that you
couldn't get from a lemur with a series of small changes? We'll
wait.....
The real point is that for every change however small, it is
impossible to happen without being designed by intelligence. Random
mutation doesn't change anything. It only absolutely destroys
everything. There is never any evolution. There is only intelligent
design happening right in front of the eyes of the evolutionists.
+
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a specific protein, such as one strand of hemoglobin. Suppose that
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a random change in a single amino acid causes the protein to function
at a slightly reduced level. Another, completely random change could
cause the original amino acid to be restored, thus improving the
function of the protein. This is a clear example of a random
mutation improving the function.
Your clear example is nothing but your suppositions. I question your
such suppositions. I believe none of your suppositions is random. They
all must be intelligently designed because they can only be the result
of construction of new order with the result of reduced entropy. They
can't happen randomly by pure chance because they can only be
accomplished by moving against the second law of thermodynamics. Moving
against a natural physical law can never be something random because
everything in the physical universe will only follow the natural
physical law.
A random copying error leading to the substitution of one nucleotide for another nucleotide,
one out of the hundred million on a chromosome is not a reduction of entropy.

It does not "move against the second law" [sic]

It violates no physical law.

And it happens in your own body, every day:

https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms15183

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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart
with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys
and from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads
to mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Can you point to an anatomic structure in humans that you
couldn't get from a lemur with a series of small changes? We'll
wait.....
The real point is that for every change however small, it is
impossible to happen without being designed by intelligence. Random
mutation doesn't change anything. It only absolutely destroys
everything. There is never any evolution. There is only intelligent
design happening right in front of the eyes of the evolutionists.
+
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a specific protein, such as one strand of hemoglobin. Suppose that
Post by MarkA
a random change in a single amino acid causes the protein to function
at a slightly reduced level. Another, completely random change could
cause the original amino acid to be restored, thus improving the
function of the protein. This is a clear example of a random
mutation improving the function.
Your clear example is nothing but your suppositions. I question your
such suppositions. I believe none of your suppositions is random. They
all must be intelligently designed because they can only be the result
of construction of new order with the result of reduced entropy. They
can't happen randomly by pure chance because they can only be
accomplished by moving against the second law of thermodynamics. Moving
against a natural physical law can never be something random because
everything in the physical universe will only follow the natural
physical law.
A random copying error leading to the substitution of one nucleotide for another nucleotide,
one out of the hundred million on a chromosome is not a reduction of entropy.
It does not "move against the second law" [sic]
It violates no physical law.
https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms15183
Wrong. Any DNA alteration unless it's just a simple break down is always
a construction of new DNA sequence. A DNA molecule is built by
preserving energy. It always defies the second law from its very
beginning. It's the same as every sugar molecule is always the result of
defying the second law. You can't imagine anything happening in life
that doesn't defy the second law.

Secondly, if it's a random break down of healthy DNA, it would lead to
genetic disease. There is no beneficial DNA change happening. Your
special case actually demonstrates life's intelligent ability to take
the risk of genetic disease for the future generation in order to deal
with the current life threatening crisis at hand. Such evidence of
intelligence can't be an aimless random mistake of data exchange. When
was the last time you experience hard disk crash with enhanced operating
system performance? Your argument isn't even logical.
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Selene
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart
with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys
and from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads
to mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Can you point to an anatomic structure in humans that you
couldn't get from a lemur with a series of small changes? We'll
wait.....
The real point is that for every change however small, it is
impossible to happen without being designed by intelligence. Random
mutation doesn't change anything. It only absolutely destroys
everything. There is never any evolution. There is only intelligent
design happening right in front of the eyes of the evolutionists.
+
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a specific protein, such as one strand of hemoglobin. Suppose that
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a random change in a single amino acid causes the protein to function
at a slightly reduced level. Another, completely random change could
cause the original amino acid to be restored, thus improving the
function of the protein. This is a clear example of a random
mutation improving the function.
Your clear example is nothing but your suppositions. I question your
such suppositions. I believe none of your suppositions is random. They
all must be intelligently designed because they can only be the result
of construction of new order with the result of reduced entropy. They
can't happen randomly by pure chance because they can only be
accomplished by moving against the second law of thermodynamics. Moving
against a natural physical law can never be something random because
everything in the physical universe will only follow the natural
physical law.
A random copying error leading to the substitution of one nucleotide for another nucleotide,
one out of the hundred million on a chromosome is not a reduction of entropy.
It does not "move against the second law" [sic]
It violates no physical law.
https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms15183
Wrong. Any DNA alteration unless it's just a simple break down is always
a construction of new DNA sequence.
Too bad space doesn't allow me to demonstrate my point by writing
out a hundred million letters in a row here, then writing it out again but
changing one single letter out of those hundred million -- and then telling
you to spot it for us.

That is exactly how much of "a new DNA sequence" it is. Or isn't.

Generally it has no effect whatsoever. It will be a neutral mutation.
Most mutations are neutral.
Post by aaa
A DNA molecule is built by
preserving energy. It always defies the second law from its very
beginning. It's the same as every sugar molecule is always the result of
defying the second law. You can't imagine anything happening in life
that doesn't defy the second law.
Which has exactly nothing to do with your claim that a single nucleotide
change is a "reduction of entropy". It isn't.
Post by aaa
Secondly, if it's a random break down of healthy DNA, it would lead to
genetic disease.
Another scientific "fact" you just now made up on the spot. And I can
say with one hundred percent certainty that you cannot support with
anything beyond making up more stuff on the spot.

Because if that were not true, then you would be dead. Every newborn baby
has on the order of 50-200 mutations -- changes in genes that differ
from those same genes in each of its parents. And yet they live.
Most of them admirably healthy.

No go ahead, go ahead -- by all means, let's have some more rants
based on your utter and total ignorance of actual molecular biology.
Just don't expect me to waste more time trying to correct your
imaginary home brewed version of it.


Selene
Post by aaa
There is no beneficial DNA change happening. Your
special case actually demonstrates life's intelligent ability to take
the risk of genetic disease for the future generation in order to deal
with the current life threatening crisis at hand. Such evidence of
intelligence can't be an aimless random mistake of data exchange. When
was the last time you experience hard disk crash with enhanced operating
system performance? Your argument isn't even logical.
Post by s***@gmail.com
Selene
Post by MarkA
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happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart
with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys
and from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads
to mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Can you point to an anatomic structure in humans that you
couldn't get from a lemur with a series of small changes? We'll
wait.....
The real point is that for every change however small, it is
impossible to happen without being designed by intelligence. Random
mutation doesn't change anything. It only absolutely destroys
everything. There is never any evolution. There is only intelligent
design happening right in front of the eyes of the evolutionists.
+
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a specific protein, such as one strand of hemoglobin. Suppose that
Post by MarkA
a random change in a single amino acid causes the protein to function
at a slightly reduced level. Another, completely random change could
cause the original amino acid to be restored, thus improving the
function of the protein. This is a clear example of a random
mutation improving the function.
Your clear example is nothing but your suppositions. I question your
such suppositions. I believe none of your suppositions is random. They
all must be intelligently designed because they can only be the result
of construction of new order with the result of reduced entropy. They
can't happen randomly by pure chance because they can only be
accomplished by moving against the second law of thermodynamics. Moving
against a natural physical law can never be something random because
everything in the physical universe will only follow the natural
physical law.
A random copying error leading to the substitution of one nucleotide for another nucleotide,
one out of the hundred million on a chromosome is not a reduction of entropy.
It does not "move against the second law" [sic]
It violates no physical law.
https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms15183
Wrong. Any DNA alteration unless it's just a simple break down is always
a construction of new DNA sequence.
Too bad space doesn't allow me to demonstrate my point by writing
out a hundred million letters in a row here, then writing it out again but
changing one single letter out of those hundred million -- and then telling
you to spot it for us.
That is exactly how much of "a new DNA sequence" it is. Or isn't.
Generally it has no effect whatsoever. It will be a neutral mutation.
Most mutations are neutral.
To remove something from the DNA doesn't require moving against the
second law, but to add anything back into the DNA does require moving
against the second law. Your DNA copying is already a process that moves
against the second law. It doesn't happen automatically. It must be
based on design. Your computer can copy things because it's
intelligently designed.
Post by s***@gmail.com
Post by aaa
A DNA molecule is built by
preserving energy. It always defies the second law from its very
beginning. It's the same as every sugar molecule is always the result of
defying the second law. You can't imagine anything happening in life
that doesn't defy the second law.
Which has exactly nothing to do with your claim that a single nucleotide
change is a "reduction of entropy". It isn't.
Yes, it is. Because it requires you to take out the old nucleotide and
put in the new nucleotide. By putting something in, you are adding the
preserved energy which is protein into the DNA. That is already the
reduction of entropy.
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Post by aaa
Secondly, if it's a random break down of healthy DNA, it would lead to
genetic disease.
Another scientific "fact" you just now made up on the spot. And I can
say with one hundred percent certainty that you cannot support with
anything beyond making up more stuff on the spot.
Because if that were not true, then you would be dead. Every newborn baby
has on the order of 50-200 mutations -- changes in genes that differ
from those same genes in each of its parents. And yet they live.
Most of them admirably healthy.
That's only the evidence that the DNA is a remarkable information
storage mechanism that is capable to withstand most of the damage caused
by random mutation. It should only further prove the intelligent design.
Post by s***@gmail.com
No go ahead, go ahead -- by all means, let's have some more rants
based on your utter and total ignorance of actual molecular biology.
Just don't expect me to waste more time trying to correct your
imaginary home brewed version of it.
Since you have not bothered to point out the exact mistake in my
statement, I have to assume that there isn't any.
Post by s***@gmail.com
Selene
Post by aaa
There is no beneficial DNA change happening. Your
special case actually demonstrates life's intelligent ability to take
the risk of genetic disease for the future generation in order to deal
with the current life threatening crisis at hand. Such evidence of
intelligence can't be an aimless random mistake of data exchange. When
was the last time you experience hard disk crash with enhanced operating
system performance? Your argument isn't even logical.
Post by s***@gmail.com
Selene
Post by MarkA
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2018-06-14 18:55:21 UTC
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart
with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys
and from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads
to mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Can you point to an anatomic structure in humans that you
couldn't get from a lemur with a series of small changes? We'll
wait.....
The real point is that for every change however small, it is
impossible to happen without being designed by intelligence. Random
mutation doesn't change anything. It only absolutely destroys
everything. There is never any evolution. There is only intelligent
design happening right in front of the eyes of the evolutionists.
+
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a specific protein, such as one strand of hemoglobin. Suppose that
Post by MarkA
a random change in a single amino acid causes the protein to function
at a slightly reduced level. Another, completely random change could
cause the original amino acid to be restored, thus improving the
function of the protein. This is a clear example of a random
mutation improving the function.
Your clear example is nothing but your suppositions. I question your
such suppositions. I believe none of your suppositions is random. They
all must be intelligently designed because they can only be the result
of construction of new order with the result of reduced entropy. They
can't happen randomly by pure chance because they can only be
accomplished by moving against the second law of thermodynamics. Moving
against a natural physical law can never be something random because
everything in the physical universe will only follow the natural
physical law.
A random copying error leading to the substitution of one nucleotide for another nucleotide,
one out of the hundred million on a chromosome is not a reduction of entropy.
It does not "move against the second law" [sic]
It violates no physical law.
https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms15183
Wrong. Any DNA alteration unless it's just a simple break down is always
a construction of new DNA sequence.
Too bad space doesn't allow me to demonstrate my point by writing
out a hundred million letters in a row here, then writing it out again but
changing one single letter out of those hundred million -- and then telling
you to spot it for us.
That is exactly how much of "a new DNA sequence" it is. Or isn't.
Generally it has no effect whatsoever. It will be a neutral mutation.
Most mutations are neutral.
To remove something from the DNA doesn't require moving against the
second law, but to add anything back into the DNA does require moving
against the second law. Your DNA copying is already a process that moves
against the second law. It doesn't happen automatically. It must be
based on design. Your computer can copy things because it's
intelligently designed.
Post by s***@gmail.com
Post by aaa
A DNA molecule is built by
preserving energy. It always defies the second law from its very
beginning. It's the same as every sugar molecule is always the result of
defying the second law. You can't imagine anything happening in life
that doesn't defy the second law.
Which has exactly nothing to do with your claim that a single nucleotide
change is a "reduction of entropy". It isn't.
,,
Post by aaa
Yes, it is. Because it requires you to take out the old nucleotide and
put in the new nucleotide. By putting something in, you are adding the
preserved energy which is protein into the DNA. That is already the
reduction of entropy.
Swear to Bastet, I too said I wasn't going to bother any further. But
some ignorance just shrieks so loud you can't block it out.

There is no protein in DNA.

None.
.
Not one single protein.

Not even an amino acid.

Zip. Nada. Null set.

Adenine, cytosine, guanine, thymine, and uracil. Not a protein in the lot.

Not a single peptide bond.

Oh, and your thermodynamic "argument" is bogus as well.

Now as refreshing is one might think it is to argue biochemistry
with someone who wouldn't know an isomer from ice cream,
I do have better things to do.

BR-8
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Post by aaa
Secondly, if it's a random break down of healthy DNA, it would lead to
genetic disease.
Another scientific "fact" you just now made up on the spot. And I can
say with one hundred percent certainty that you cannot support with
anything beyond making up more stuff on the spot.
Because if that were not true, then you would be dead. Every newborn baby
has on the order of 50-200 mutations -- changes in genes that differ
from those same genes in each of its parents. And yet they live.
Most of them admirably healthy.
That's only the evidence that the DNA is a remarkable information
storage mechanism that is capable to withstand most of the damage caused
by random mutation. It should only further prove the intelligent design.
Post by s***@gmail.com
No go ahead, go ahead -- by all means, let's have some more rants
based on your utter and total ignorance of actual molecular biology.
Just don't expect me to waste more time trying to correct your
imaginary home brewed version of it.
Since you have not bothered to point out the exact mistake in my
statement, I have to assume that there isn't any.
Post by s***@gmail.com
Selene
Post by aaa
There is no beneficial DNA change happening. Your
special case actually demonstrates life's intelligent ability to take
the risk of genetic disease for the future generation in order to deal
with the current life threatening crisis at hand. Such evidence of
intelligence can't be an aimless random mistake of data exchange. When
was the last time you experience hard disk crash with enhanced operating
system performance? Your argument isn't even logical.
Post by s***@gmail.com
Selene
Post by MarkA
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart
with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys
and from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads
to mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Can you point to an anatomic structure in humans that you
couldn't get from a lemur with a series of small changes? We'll
wait.....
The real point is that for every change however small, it is
impossible to happen without being designed by intelligence. Random
mutation doesn't change anything. It only absolutely destroys
everything. There is never any evolution. There is only intelligent
design happening right in front of the eyes of the evolutionists.
+
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a specific protein, such as one strand of hemoglobin. Suppose that
Post by MarkA
a random change in a single amino acid causes the protein to function
at a slightly reduced level. Another, completely random change could
cause the original amino acid to be restored, thus improving the
function of the protein. This is a clear example of a random
mutation improving the function.
Your clear example is nothing but your suppositions. I question your
such suppositions. I believe none of your suppositions is random. They
all must be intelligently designed because they can only be the result
of construction of new order with the result of reduced entropy. They
can't happen randomly by pure chance because they can only be
accomplished by moving against the second law of thermodynamics. Moving
against a natural physical law can never be something random because
everything in the physical universe will only follow the natural
physical law.
A random copying error leading to the substitution of one nucleotide for another nucleotide,
one out of the hundred million on a chromosome is not a reduction of entropy.
It does not "move against the second law" [sic]
It violates no physical law.
https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms15183
Wrong. Any DNA alteration unless it's just a simple break down is always
a construction of new DNA sequence.
Too bad space doesn't allow me to demonstrate my point by writing
out a hundred million letters in a row here, then writing it out again but
changing one single letter out of those hundred million -- and then telling
you to spot it for us.
That is exactly how much of "a new DNA sequence" it is. Or isn't.
Generally it has no effect whatsoever. It will be a neutral mutation.
Most mutations are neutral.
To remove something from the DNA doesn't require moving against the
second law, but to add anything back into the DNA does require moving
against the second law. Your DNA copying is already a process that moves
against the second law. It doesn't happen automatically. It must be
based on design. Your computer can copy things because it's
intelligently designed.
Post by s***@gmail.com
Post by aaa
A DNA molecule is built by
preserving energy. It always defies the second law from its very
beginning. It's the same as every sugar molecule is always the result of
defying the second law. You can't imagine anything happening in life
that doesn't defy the second law.
Which has exactly nothing to do with your claim that a single nucleotide
change is a "reduction of entropy". It isn't.
,,
Post by aaa
Yes, it is. Because it requires you to take out the old nucleotide and
put in the new nucleotide. By putting something in, you are adding the
preserved energy which is protein into the DNA. That is already the
reduction of entropy.
Swear to Bastet, I too said I wasn't going to bother any further. But
some ignorance just shrieks so loud you can't block it out.
There is no protein in DNA.
None.
..
Not one single protein.
Not even an amino acid.
Zip. Nada. Null set.
Adenine, cytosine, guanine, thymine, and uracil. Not a protein in the lot.
Not a single peptide bond.
Oh, and your thermodynamic "argument" is bogus as well.
Now as refreshing is one might think it is to argue biochemistry
with someone who wouldn't know an isomer from ice cream,
I do have better things to do.
Sorry, that's entirely my mistake. I was looking for something more
basic than the nucleotide. I should have remembered that DNA is supposed
to generate proteins instead.
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BR-8
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Secondly, if it's a random break down of healthy DNA, it would lead to
genetic disease.
Another scientific "fact" you just now made up on the spot. And I can
say with one hundred percent certainty that you cannot support with
anything beyond making up more stuff on the spot.
Because if that were not true, then you would be dead. Every newborn baby
has on the order of 50-200 mutations -- changes in genes that differ
from those same genes in each of its parents. And yet they live.
Most of them admirably healthy.
That's only the evidence that the DNA is a remarkable information
storage mechanism that is capable to withstand most of the damage caused
by random mutation. It should only further prove the intelligent design.
Post by s***@gmail.com
No go ahead, go ahead -- by all means, let's have some more rants
based on your utter and total ignorance of actual molecular biology.
Just don't expect me to waste more time trying to correct your
imaginary home brewed version of it.
Since you have not bothered to point out the exact mistake in my
statement, I have to assume that there isn't any.
Post by s***@gmail.com
Selene
Post by aaa
There is no beneficial DNA change happening. Your
special case actually demonstrates life's intelligent ability to take
the risk of genetic disease for the future generation in order to deal
with the current life threatening crisis at hand. Such evidence of
intelligence can't be an aimless random mistake of data exchange. When
was the last time you experience hard disk crash with enhanced operating
system performance? Your argument isn't even logical.
Post by s***@gmail.com
Selene
Post by MarkA
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happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart
with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys
and from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads
to mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Can you point to an anatomic structure in humans that you
couldn't get from a lemur with a series of small changes? We'll
wait.....
The real point is that for every change however small, it is
impossible to happen without being designed by intelligence. Random
mutation doesn't change anything. It only absolutely destroys
everything. There is never any evolution. There is only intelligent
design happening right in front of the eyes of the evolutionists.
+
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a specific protein, such as one strand of hemoglobin. Suppose that
Post by MarkA
a random change in a single amino acid causes the protein to function
at a slightly reduced level. Another, completely random change could
cause the original amino acid to be restored, thus improving the
function of the protein. This is a clear example of a random
mutation improving the function.
Your clear example is nothing but your suppositions. I question your
such suppositions. I believe none of your suppositions is random. They
all must be intelligently designed because they can only be the result
of construction of new order with the result of reduced entropy. They
can't happen randomly by pure chance because they can only be
accomplished by moving against the second law of thermodynamics. Moving
against a natural physical law can never be something random because
everything in the physical universe will only follow the natural
physical law.
A random copying error leading to the substitution of one nucleotide for another nucleotide,
one out of the hundred million on a chromosome is not a reduction of entropy.
It does not "move against the second law" [sic]
It violates no physical law.
https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms15183
Wrong. Any DNA alteration unless it's just a simple break down is always
a construction of new DNA sequence.
Too bad space doesn't allow me to demonstrate my point by writing
out a hundred million letters in a row here, then writing it out again but
changing one single letter out of those hundred million -- and then telling
you to spot it for us.
That is exactly how much of "a new DNA sequence" it is. Or isn't.
Generally it has no effect whatsoever. It will be a neutral mutation.
Most mutations are neutral.
To remove something from the DNA doesn't require moving against the
second law, but to add anything back into the DNA does require moving
against the second law. Your DNA copying is already a process that moves
against the second law. It doesn't happen automatically. It must be
based on design. Your computer can copy things because it's
intelligently designed.
Post by s***@gmail.com
Post by aaa
A DNA molecule is built by
preserving energy. It always defies the second law from its very
beginning. It's the same as every sugar molecule is always the result of
defying the second law. You can't imagine anything happening in life
that doesn't defy the second law.
Which has exactly nothing to do with your claim that a single nucleotide
change is a "reduction of entropy". It isn't.
,,
,,
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Post by aaa
Yes, it is. Because it requires you to take out the old nucleotide and
put in the new nucleotide. By putting something in, you are adding the
preserved energy which is protein into the DNA. That is already the
reduction of entropy.
Swear to Bastet, I too said I wasn't going to bother any further. But
some ignorance just shrieks so loud you can't block it out.
There is no protein in DNA.
None.
..
Not one single protein.
Not even an amino acid.
Zip. Nada. Null set.
Adenine, cytosine, guanine, thymine, and uracil. Not a protein in the lot.
Not a single peptide bond.
Oh, and your thermodynamic "argument" is bogus as well.
Now as refreshing is one might think it is to argue biochemistry
with someone who wouldn't know an isomer from ice cream,
I do have better things to do.
Sorry, that's entirely my mistake. I was looking for something more
basic than the nucleotide. I should have remembered that DNA is supposed
to generate proteins instead.
I beg your pardon? You were looking for "something more basic than a
nucleotide"?

Leaving aside the question of what that would have to do with anything at all,
proteins are far far more complicated than nucleotides. Nucleotides
are among the simplest molecules in all of biochemistry.

Stop. Really, just stop now. With every step you only get mired deeper and deeper.


BR-8
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BR-8
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Secondly, if it's a random break down of healthy DNA, it would lead to
genetic disease.
Another scientific "fact" you just now made up on the spot. And I can
say with one hundred percent certainty that you cannot support with
anything beyond making up more stuff on the spot.
Because if that were not true, then you would be dead. Every newborn baby
has on the order of 50-200 mutations -- changes in genes that differ
from those same genes in each of its parents. And yet they live.
Most of them admirably healthy.
That's only the evidence that the DNA is a remarkable information
storage mechanism that is capable to withstand most of the damage caused
by random mutation. It should only further prove the intelligent design.
Post by s***@gmail.com
No go ahead, go ahead -- by all means, let's have some more rants
based on your utter and total ignorance of actual molecular biology.
Just don't expect me to waste more time trying to correct your
imaginary home brewed version of it.
Since you have not bothered to point out the exact mistake in my
statement, I have to assume that there isn't any.
Post by s***@gmail.com
Selene
Post by aaa
There is no beneficial DNA change happening. Your
special case actually demonstrates life's intelligent ability to take
the risk of genetic disease for the future generation in order to deal
with the current life threatening crisis at hand. Such evidence of
intelligence can't be an aimless random mistake of data exchange. When
was the last time you experience hard disk crash with enhanced operating
system performance? Your argument isn't even logical.
Post by s***@gmail.com
Selene
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart
with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys
and from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads
to mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Can you point to an anatomic structure in humans that you
couldn't get from a lemur with a series of small changes? We'll
wait.....
The real point is that for every change however small, it is
impossible to happen without being designed by intelligence. Random
mutation doesn't change anything. It only absolutely destroys
everything. There is never any evolution. There is only intelligent
design happening right in front of the eyes of the evolutionists.
+
Post by MarkA
a specific protein, such as one strand of hemoglobin. Suppose that
Post by MarkA
a random change in a single amino acid causes the protein to function
at a slightly reduced level. Another, completely random change could
cause the original amino acid to be restored, thus improving the
function of the protein. This is a clear example of a random
mutation improving the function.
Your clear example is nothing but your suppositions. I question your
such suppositions. I believe none of your suppositions is random. They
all must be intelligently designed because they can only be the result
of construction of new order with the result of reduced entropy. They
can't happen randomly by pure chance because they can only be
accomplished by moving against the second law of thermodynamics. Moving
against a natural physical law can never be something random because
everything in the physical universe will only follow the natural
physical law.
A random copying error leading to the substitution of one nucleotide for another nucleotide,
one out of the hundred million on a chromosome is not a reduction of entropy.
It does not "move against the second law" [sic]
It violates no physical law.
https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms15183
Wrong. Any DNA alteration unless it's just a simple break down is always
a construction of new DNA sequence. A DNA molecule is built by
preserving energy. It always defies the second law from its very
beginning. It's the same as every sugar molecule is always the result of
defying the second law. You can't imagine anything happening in life
that doesn't defy the second law.
Secondly, if it's a random break down of healthy DNA, it would lead to
genetic disease. There is no beneficial DNA change happening. Your
special case actually demonstrates life's intelligent ability to take
the risk of genetic disease for the future generation in order to deal
with the current life threatening crisis at hand. Such evidence of
intelligence can't be an aimless random mistake of data exchange.
When
was the last time you experience hard disk crash with enhanced operating
system performance?
What?

DNA is not a computer. It's not a car, a washing machine, or a tennis racket either.
A chromosome is not a hard drive. You're doing biology-by-metaphor, which is
what is making you simply wrong. Wrong wrong wrong. Hilariously wrong.

DNA makes proteins. DNA makes thousands and thousands of different proteins.
Changing one nucleotide out of a hundred million in one chromosome can very
easily make no difference at all. Changing one protein out of thousands can
make a big difference, a small difference, no difference at all. DNA is not
"running a program"; DNA is running thousands of different subprograms.
Some of them all of the time, some of them almost never.

And a great deal of DNA does nothing at all. Ever.

The part that does do something, such as making proteins, is in a redundant code.
Which means you can change one nucleotide and still have a decent chance
of making exactly the same protein. No change, no harm, no foul. None.

If you do change that one amino acid, it will most likely be in a non critical
portion of its protein. If it's not in the active site, the pocket, and if it doesn't
change the shape of the protein, it makes no difference at all. Which is why
the same protein often occurs in many slightly different variants among humans,
and even more among animals.

A few proteins are so critical that they are termed "highly conserved", which
means they do not vary among humans, and maybe not between humans
and animals. Presumably you mess with these, you're in trouble. Otherwise
they would not have been so rigidly selected for.

There are only a few such highly conserved proteins. The remainder are much
more variable. There's room for latitude, and latitude is what we find. Small
differences are generally no difference at all.
Post by aaa
Your argument isn't even logical.
DNA is not a computer. A chromosome is not a hard drive. That is a totally bogus
metaphor. It is not even an argument. Just a metaphor.

One that betrays a total ignorance of the way the genome actually works.

Total.



BR-8
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Post by Amazing Answers
Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart
with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world
monkeys
Post by blue ringed 8
Post by aaa
Post by s***@gmail.com
Post by MarkA
Post by MarkA
Post by aaa
Post by MarkA
Post by Amazing Answers
and from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads
to mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Can you point to an anatomic structure in humans that you
couldn't get from a lemur with a series of small changes?
We'll
Post by blue ringed 8
Post by aaa
Post by s***@gmail.com
Post by MarkA
Post by MarkA
Post by aaa
Post by MarkA
wait.....
The real point is that for every change however small, it is
impossible to happen without being designed by intelligence. Random
mutation doesn't change anything. It only absolutely destroys
everything. There is never any evolution. There is only
intelligent
Post by blue ringed 8
Post by aaa
Post by s***@gmail.com
Post by MarkA
Post by MarkA
Post by aaa
design happening right in front of the eyes of the
evolutionists.
Post by blue ringed 8
Post by aaa
Post by s***@gmail.com
+
Post by MarkA
a specific protein, such as one strand of hemoglobin. Suppose that
Post by MarkA
a random change in a single amino acid causes the protein to function
at a slightly reduced level. Another, completely random
change could
Post by blue ringed 8
Post by aaa
Post by s***@gmail.com
Post by MarkA
Post by MarkA
cause the original amino acid to be restored, thus improving the
function of the protein. This is a clear example of a random
mutation improving the function.
Your clear example is nothing but your suppositions. I
question your
Post by blue ringed 8
Post by aaa
Post by s***@gmail.com
Post by MarkA
such suppositions. I believe none of your suppositions is
random. They
Post by blue ringed 8
Post by aaa
Post by s***@gmail.com
Post by MarkA
all must be intelligently designed because they can only be the result
of construction of new order with the result of reduced
entropy. They
Post by blue ringed 8
Post by aaa
Post by s***@gmail.com
Post by MarkA
can't happen randomly by pure chance because they can only be
accomplished by moving against the second law of
thermodynamics. Moving
Post by blue ringed 8
Post by aaa
Post by s***@gmail.com
Post by MarkA
against a natural physical law can never be something random because
everything in the physical universe will only follow the
natural
Post by blue ringed 8
Post by aaa
Post by s***@gmail.com
Post by MarkA
physical law.
A random copying error leading to the substitution of one
nucleotide for another nucleotide,
Post by blue ringed 8
Post by aaa
Post by s***@gmail.com
one out of the hundred million on a chromosome is not a
reduction of entropy.
Post by blue ringed 8
Post by aaa
Post by s***@gmail.com
It does not "move against the second law" [sic]
It violates no physical law.
https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms15183
Wrong. Any DNA alteration unless it's just a simple break down is always
a construction of new DNA sequence. A DNA molecule is built by
preserving energy. It always defies the second law from its very
beginning. It's the same as every sugar molecule is always the result of
defying the second law. You can't imagine anything happening in life
that doesn't defy the second law.
Secondly, if it's a random break down of healthy DNA, it would lead to
genetic disease. There is no beneficial DNA change happening. Your
special case actually demonstrates life's intelligent ability to take
the risk of genetic disease for the future generation in order to deal
with the current life threatening crisis at hand. Such evidence of
intelligence can't be an aimless random mistake of data exchange.
When
was the last time you experience hard disk crash with enhanced operating
system performance?
What?
DNA is not a computer. It's not a car, a washing machine, or a tennis racket either.
A chromosome is not a hard drive. You're doing
biology-by-metaphor, which is
Post by blue ringed 8
what is making you simply wrong. Wrong wrong wrong. Hilariously wrong.
DNA makes proteins. DNA makes thousands and thousands of different proteins.
Changing one nucleotide out of a hundred million in one chromosome can very
easily make no difference at all. Changing one protein out of
thousands can
Post by blue ringed 8
make a big difference, a small difference, no difference at all.
DNA is not
Post by blue ringed 8
"running a program"; DNA is running thousands of different
subprograms.
Post by blue ringed 8
Some of them all of the time, some of them almost never.
And a great deal of DNA does nothing at all. Ever.
The part that does do something, such as making proteins, is in a redundant code.
Which means you can change one nucleotide and still have a decent chance
of making exactly the same protein. No change, no harm, no foul.
None.
Post by blue ringed 8
If you do change that one amino acid, it will most likely be in a non critical
portion of its protein. If it's not in the active site, the
pocket, and if it doesn't
Post by blue ringed 8
change the shape of the protein, it makes no difference at all.
Which is why
Post by blue ringed 8
the same protein often occurs in many slightly different variants among humans,
and even more among animals.
A few proteins are so critical that they are termed "highly
conserved", which
Post by blue ringed 8
means they do not vary among humans, and maybe not between humans
and animals. Presumably you mess with these, you're in trouble.
Otherwise
Post by blue ringed 8
they would not have been so rigidly selected for.
There are only a few such highly conserved proteins. The remainder are much
more variable. There's room for latitude, and latitude is what we find. Small
differences are generally no difference at all.
Post by aaa
Your argument isn't even logical.
DNA is not a computer. A chromosome is not a hard drive. That is a totally bogus
metaphor. It is not even an argument. Just a metaphor.
One that betrays a total ignorance of the way the genome actually works.
Total.
BR-8
Thx BR.
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Post by aaa
Post by s***@gmail.com
Post by MarkA
Post by MarkA
Post by aaa
Post by MarkA
Post by Amazing Answers
Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart
with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys
and from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads
to mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Can you point to an anatomic structure in humans that you
couldn't get from a lemur with a series of small changes? We'll
wait.....
The real point is that for every change however small, it is
impossible to happen without being designed by intelligence. Random
mutation doesn't change anything. It only absolutely destroys
everything. There is never any evolution. There is only intelligent
design happening right in front of the eyes of the evolutionists.
+
Post by MarkA
a specific protein, such as one strand of hemoglobin. Suppose that
Post by MarkA
a random change in a single amino acid causes the protein to function
at a slightly reduced level. Another, completely random change could
cause the original amino acid to be restored, thus improving the
function of the protein. This is a clear example of a random
mutation improving the function.
Your clear example is nothing but your suppositions. I question your
such suppositions. I believe none of your suppositions is random. They
all must be intelligently designed because they can only be the result
of construction of new order with the result of reduced entropy. They
can't happen randomly by pure chance because they can only be
accomplished by moving against the second law of thermodynamics. Moving
against a natural physical law can never be something random because
everything in the physical universe will only follow the natural
physical law.
A random copying error leading to the substitution of one nucleotide for another nucleotide,
one out of the hundred million on a chromosome is not a reduction of entropy.
It does not "move against the second law" [sic]
It violates no physical law.
https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms15183
Wrong. Any DNA alteration unless it's just a simple break down is always
a construction of new DNA sequence. A DNA molecule is built by
preserving energy. It always defies the second law from its very
beginning. It's the same as every sugar molecule is always the result of
defying the second law. You can't imagine anything happening in life
that doesn't defy the second law.
Secondly, if it's a random break down of healthy DNA, it would lead to
genetic disease. There is no beneficial DNA change happening. Your
special case actually demonstrates life's intelligent ability to take
the risk of genetic disease for the future generation in order to deal
with the current life threatening crisis at hand. Such evidence of
intelligence can't be an aimless random mistake of data exchange.
When
was the last time you experience hard disk crash with enhanced operating
system performance?
What?
DNA is not a computer. It's not a car, a washing machine, or a tennis racket either.
A chromosome is not a hard drive. You're doing biology-by-metaphor, which is
what is making you simply wrong. Wrong wrong wrong. Hilariously wrong.
DNA makes proteins. DNA makes thousands and thousands of different proteins.
Changing one nucleotide out of a hundred million in one chromosome can very
easily make no difference at all. Changing one protein out of thousands can
make a big difference, a small difference, no difference at all. DNA is not
"running a program"; DNA is running thousands of different subprograms.
Some of them all of the time, some of them almost never.
And a great deal of DNA does nothing at all. Ever.
The part that does do something, such as making proteins, is in a redundant code.
Which means you can change one nucleotide and still have a decent chance
of making exactly the same protein. No change, no harm, no foul. None.
If you do change that one amino acid, it will most likely be in a non critical
portion of its protein. If it's not in the active site, the pocket, and if it doesn't
change the shape of the protein, it makes no difference at all. Which is why
the same protein often occurs in many slightly different variants among humans,
and even more among animals.
A few proteins are so critical that they are termed "highly conserved", which
means they do not vary among humans, and maybe not between humans
and animals. Presumably you mess with these, you're in trouble. Otherwise
they would not have been so rigidly selected for.
There are only a few such highly conserved proteins. The remainder are much
more variable. There's room for latitude, and latitude is what we find. Small
differences are generally no difference at all.
Post by aaa
Your argument isn't even logical.
DNA is not a computer. A chromosome is not a hard drive. That is a totally bogus
metaphor. It is not even an argument. Just a metaphor.
One that betrays a total ignorance of the way the genome actually works.
Total.
The language of DNA is superior to the language of computer. The
computer language is binary code. The DNA language is quaternary code.
With the same limited space, the DNA is capable to store more
information than a computer. This is why life will always be greater
than machines.
Post by blue ringed 8
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Post by Amazing Answers
Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart
with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys
and from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads
to mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Can you point to an anatomic structure in humans that you
couldn't get from a lemur with a series of small changes? We'll
wait.....
The real point is that for every change however small, it is
impossible to happen without being designed by intelligence. Random
mutation doesn't change anything. It only absolutely destroys
everything. There is never any evolution. There is only intelligent
design happening right in front of the eyes of the evolutionists.
+
Post by MarkA
a specific protein, such as one strand of hemoglobin. Suppose that
Post by MarkA
a random change in a single amino acid causes the protein to function
at a slightly reduced level. Another, completely random change could
cause the original amino acid to be restored, thus improving the
function of the protein. This is a clear example of a random
mutation improving the function.
Your clear example is nothing but your suppositions. I question your
such suppositions. I believe none of your suppositions is random. They
all must be intelligently designed because they can only be the result
of construction of new order with the result of reduced entropy. They
can't happen randomly by pure chance because they can only be
accomplished by moving against the second law of thermodynamics. Moving
against a natural physical law can never be something random because
everything in the physical universe will only follow the natural
physical law.
A random copying error leading to the substitution of one nucleotide for another nucleotide,
one out of the hundred million on a chromosome is not a reduction of entropy.
It does not "move against the second law" [sic]
It violates no physical law.
https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms15183
Wrong. Any DNA alteration unless it's just a simple break down is always
a construction of new DNA sequence. A DNA molecule is built by
preserving energy. It always defies the second law from its very
beginning. It's the same as every sugar molecule is always the result of
defying the second law. You can't imagine anything happening in life
that doesn't defy the second law.
Secondly, if it's a random break down of healthy DNA, it would lead to
genetic disease. There is no beneficial DNA change happening. Your
special case actually demonstrates life's intelligent ability to take
the risk of genetic disease for the future generation in order to deal
with the current life threatening crisis at hand. Such evidence of
intelligence can't be an aimless random mistake of data exchange.
When
was the last time you experience hard disk crash with enhanced operating
system performance?
What?
DNA is not a computer. It's not a car, a washing machine, or a tennis racket either.
A chromosome is not a hard drive. You're doing biology-by-metaphor, which is
what is making you simply wrong. Wrong wrong wrong. Hilariously wrong.
DNA makes proteins. DNA makes thousands and thousands of different proteins.
Changing one nucleotide out of a hundred million in one chromosome can very
easily make no difference at all. Changing one protein out of thousands can
make a big difference, a small difference, no difference at all. DNA is not
"running a program"; DNA is running thousands of different subprograms.
Some of them all of the time, some of them almost never.
And a great deal of DNA does nothing at all. Ever.
The part that does do something, such as making proteins, is in a redundant code.
Which means you can change one nucleotide and still have a decent chance
of making exactly the same protein. No change, no harm, no foul. None.
If you do change that one amino acid, it will most likely be in a non critical
portion of its protein. If it's not in the active site, the pocket, and if it doesn't
change the shape of the protein, it makes no difference at all. Which is why
the same protein often occurs in many slightly different variants among humans,
and even more among animals.
A few proteins are so critical that they are termed "highly conserved", which
means they do not vary among humans, and maybe not between humans
and animals. Presumably you mess with these, you're in trouble. Otherwise
they would not have been so rigidly selected for.
There are only a few such highly conserved proteins. The remainder are much
more variable. There's room for latitude, and latitude is what we find. Small
differences are generally no difference at all.
Post by aaa
Your argument isn't even logical.
DNA is not a computer. A chromosome is not a hard drive. That is a totally bogus
metaphor. It is not even an argument. Just a metaphor.
One that betrays a total ignorance of the way the genome actually works.
Total.
The language of DNA is superior to the language of computer. The
computer language is binary code. The DNA language is quaternary code.
With the same limited space, the DNA is capable to store more
information than a computer. This is why life will always be greater
than machines.
So, let's hear you hold on this "quaternary code". I'm not talking about
genes or DNA as a whole or genomes or anything of the sort.
Just the basics. What is this code? How many quats does it take
to specify an amino acid? It's a degenerate code, why is it a degenerate
code and is that a good thing or a bad thing? How many binary bits
would it take to specify the same thing as this quaternary code does?
Describe how it's redundant. Show how the redundancy is damn near optimal.

You're finally going to babble some actual biochemistry, then let's you and me babble.


BR-8


(oh, and by the way: current research in atom based memory will lead
to computers storing information far more efficiently than DNA does.
But that will not affect anything: life will still be superior to computers,
because information density and binary vs. quaternary has nothing to
do with the superiority of life)
Post by aaa
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Post by Amazing Answers
Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart
with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys
and from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads
to mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Can you point to an anatomic structure in humans that you
couldn't get from a lemur with a series of small changes? We'll
wait.....
The real point is that for every change however small, it is
impossible to happen without being designed by intelligence. Random
mutation doesn't change anything. It only absolutely destroys
everything. There is never any evolution. There is only intelligent
design happening right in front of the eyes of the evolutionists.
+
Post by MarkA
a specific protein, such as one strand of hemoglobin. Suppose that
Post by MarkA
a random change in a single amino acid causes the protein to function
at a slightly reduced level. Another, completely random change could
cause the original amino acid to be restored, thus improving the
function of the protein. This is a clear example of a random
mutation improving the function.
Your clear example is nothing but your suppositions. I question your
such suppositions. I believe none of your suppositions is random. They
all must be intelligently designed because they can only be the result
of construction of new order with the result of reduced entropy. They
can't happen randomly by pure chance because they can only be
accomplished by moving against the second law of thermodynamics. Moving
against a natural physical law can never be something random because
everything in the physical universe will only follow the natural
physical law.
A random copying error leading to the substitution of one nucleotide for another nucleotide,
one out of the hundred million on a chromosome is not a reduction of entropy.
It does not "move against the second law" [sic]
It violates no physical law.
https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms15183
Wrong. Any DNA alteration unless it's just a simple break down is always
a construction of new DNA sequence. A DNA molecule is built by
preserving energy. It always defies the second law from its very
beginning. It's the same as every sugar molecule is always the result of
defying the second law. You can't imagine anything happening in life
that doesn't defy the second law.
Secondly, if it's a random break down of healthy DNA, it would lead to
genetic disease. There is no beneficial DNA change happening. Your
special case actually demonstrates life's intelligent ability to take
the risk of genetic disease for the future generation in order to deal
with the current life threatening crisis at hand. Such evidence of
intelligence can't be an aimless random mistake of data exchange.
When
was the last time you experience hard disk crash with enhanced operating
system performance?
What?
DNA is not a computer. It's not a car, a washing machine, or a tennis racket either.
A chromosome is not a hard drive. You're doing biology-by-metaphor, which is
what is making you simply wrong. Wrong wrong wrong. Hilariously wrong.
DNA makes proteins. DNA makes thousands and thousands of different proteins.
Changing one nucleotide out of a hundred million in one chromosome can very
easily make no difference at all. Changing one protein out of thousands can
make a big difference, a small difference, no difference at all. DNA is not
"running a program"; DNA is running thousands of different subprograms.
Some of them all of the time, some of them almost never.
And a great deal of DNA does nothing at all. Ever.
The part that does do something, such as making proteins, is in a redundant code.
Which means you can change one nucleotide and still have a decent chance
of making exactly the same protein. No change, no harm, no foul. None.
If you do change that one amino acid, it will most likely be in a non critical
portion of its protein. If it's not in the active site, the pocket, and if it doesn't
change the shape of the protein, it makes no difference at all. Which is why
the same protein often occurs in many slightly different variants among humans,
and even more among animals.
A few proteins are so critical that they are termed "highly conserved", which
means they do not vary among humans, and maybe not between humans
and animals. Presumably you mess with these, you're in trouble. Otherwise
they would not have been so rigidly selected for.
There are only a few such highly conserved proteins. The remainder are much
more variable. There's room for latitude, and latitude is what we find. Small
differences are generally no difference at all.
Post by aaa
Your argument isn't even logical.
DNA is not a computer. A chromosome is not a hard drive. That is a totally bogus
metaphor. It is not even an argument. Just a metaphor.
One that betrays a total ignorance of the way the genome actually works.
Total.
The language of DNA is superior to the language of computer. The
computer language is binary code. The DNA language is quaternary code.
With the same limited space, the DNA is capable to store more
information than a computer. This is why life will always be greater
than machines.
So, let's hear you hold on this "quaternary code". I'm not talking about
genes or DNA as a whole or genomes or anything of the sort.
Just the basics. What is this code? How many quats does it take
to specify an amino acid? It's a degenerate code, why is it a degenerate
code and is that a good thing or a bad thing? How many binary bits
would it take to specify the same thing as this quaternary code does?
Describe how it's redundant. Show how the redundancy is damn near optimal.
You're finally going to babble some actual biochemistry, then let's you and me babble.
I'm neither a mathematician nor a bio-engineer. I can't give you the
specifics. I can only point out the obvious that can be seen and
understood by everyone.
Post by blue ringed 8
BR-8
(oh, and by the way: current research in atom based memory will lead
to computers storing information far more efficiently than DNA does.
But that will not affect anything: life will still be superior to computers,
because information density and binary vs. quaternary has nothing to
do with the superiority of life)
I have to disagree. I think the improved information technology has
given humanity greater power over our natural environment. This should
be a simple fact that everyone can see.
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart
with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys
and from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads
to mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Can you point to an anatomic structure in humans that you
couldn't get from a lemur with a series of small changes? We'll
wait.....
The real point is that for every change however small, it is
impossible to happen without being designed by intelligence. Random
mutation doesn't change anything. It only absolutely destroys
everything. There is never any evolution. There is only intelligent
design happening right in front of the eyes of the evolutionists.
+
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a specific protein, such as one strand of hemoglobin. Suppose that
Post by MarkA
a random change in a single amino acid causes the protein to function
at a slightly reduced level. Another, completely random change could
cause the original amino acid to be restored, thus improving the
function of the protein. This is a clear example of a random
mutation improving the function.
Your clear example is nothing but your suppositions. I question your
such suppositions. I believe none of your suppositions is random. They
all must be intelligently designed because they can only be the result
of construction of new order with the result of reduced entropy. They
can't happen randomly by pure chance because they can only be
accomplished by moving against the second law of thermodynamics. Moving
against a natural physical law can never be something random because
everything in the physical universe will only follow the natural
physical law.
A random copying error leading to the substitution of one nucleotide for another nucleotide,
one out of the hundred million on a chromosome is not a reduction of entropy.
It does not "move against the second law" [sic]
It violates no physical law.
https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms15183
Wrong. Any DNA alteration unless it's just a simple break down is always
a construction of new DNA sequence. A DNA molecule is built by
preserving energy. It always defies the second law from its very
beginning. It's the same as every sugar molecule is always the result of
defying the second law. You can't imagine anything happening in life
that doesn't defy the second law.
Secondly, if it's a random break down of healthy DNA, it would lead to
genetic disease. There is no beneficial DNA change happening. Your
special case actually demonstrates life's intelligent ability to take
the risk of genetic disease for the future generation in order to deal
with the current life threatening crisis at hand. Such evidence of
intelligence can't be an aimless random mistake of data exchange.
When
was the last time you experience hard disk crash with enhanced operating
system performance?
What?
DNA is not a computer. It's not a car, a washing machine, or a tennis racket either.
A chromosome is not a hard drive. You're doing biology-by-metaphor, which is
what is making you simply wrong. Wrong wrong wrong. Hilariously wrong.
DNA makes proteins. DNA makes thousands and thousands of different proteins.
Changing one nucleotide out of a hundred million in one chromosome can very
easily make no difference at all. Changing one protein out of thousands can
make a big difference, a small difference, no difference at all. DNA is not
"running a program"; DNA is running thousands of different subprograms.
Some of them all of the time, some of them almost never.
And a great deal of DNA does nothing at all. Ever.
The part that does do something, such as making proteins, is in a redundant code.
Which means you can change one nucleotide and still have a decent chance
of making exactly the same protein. No change, no harm, no foul. None.
If you do change that one amino acid, it will most likely be in a non critical
portion of its protein. If it's not in the active site, the pocket, and if it doesn't
change the shape of the protein, it makes no difference at all. Which is why
the same protein often occurs in many slightly different variants among humans,
and even more among animals.
A few proteins are so critical that they are termed "highly conserved", which
means they do not vary among humans, and maybe not between humans
and animals. Presumably you mess with these, you're in trouble. Otherwise
they would not have been so rigidly selected for.
There are only a few such highly conserved proteins. The remainder are much
more variable. There's room for latitude, and latitude is what we find. Small
differences are generally no difference at all.
Post by aaa
Your argument isn't even logical.
DNA is not a computer. A chromosome is not a hard drive. That is a totally bogus
metaphor. It is not even an argument. Just a metaphor.
One that betrays a total ignorance of the way the genome actually works.
Total.
ooo
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Post by blue ringed 8
Post by aaa
The language of DNA is superior to the language of computer. The
computer language is binary code. The DNA language is quaternary code.
With the same limited space, the DNA is capable to store more
information than a computer. This is why life will always be greater
than machines.
So, let's hear you hold on this "quaternary code". I'm not talking about
genes or DNA as a whole or genomes or anything of the sort.
Just the basics. What is this code? How many quats does it take
to specify an amino acid? It's a degenerate code, why is it a degenerate
code and is that a good thing or a bad thing? How many binary bits
would it take to specify the same thing as this quaternary code does?
Describe how it's redundant. Show how the redundancy is damn near optimal.
You're finally going to babble some actual biochemistry, then let's you and me babble.
I'm neither a mathematician nor a bio-engineer. I can't give you the
specifics.
You just there tried to throw in something very specific, and when I
said "OK, let's talk about that very thing", you backed out quite briskly.
Post by aaa
I can only point out the obvious that can be seen and
understood by everyone.
If it's "the obvious", then people who actually understand what
you just admitted you do not will have reached the relevant
conclusions many decades ago.


BR-8
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Post by blue ringed 8
BR-8
(oh, and by the way: current research in atom based memory will lead
to computers storing information far more efficiently than DNA does.
But that will not affect anything: life will still be superior to computers,
because information density and binary vs. quaternary has nothing to
do with the superiority of life)
I have to disagree. I think the improved information technology has
given humanity greater power over our natural environment. This should
be a simple fact that everyone can see.
Post by blue ringed 8
Post by aaa
Post by blue ringed 8
BR-8
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Post by Amazing Answers
Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart.
It's a yellow chart with a diagram showing how
from lemurs came Old world monkeys and from
that main stock also came great apes. This all
leads to mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Can you point to an anatomic structure in humans
that you couldn't get from a lemur with a series
of small changes? We'll wait.....
The real point is that for every change however
small, it is impossible to happen without being
designed by intelligence. Random mutation doesn't
change anything. It only absolutely destroys
everything. There is never any evolution. There is
only intelligent design happening right in front of
the eyes of the evolutionists.
+
Post by MarkA
a specific protein, such as one strand of hemoglobin.
Suppose that
Post by MarkA
a random change in a single amino acid causes the
protein to function at a slightly reduced level.
Another, completely random change could cause the
original amino acid to be restored, thus improving
the function of the protein. This is a clear example
of a random mutation improving the function.
Your clear example is nothing but your suppositions. I
question your such suppositions. I believe none of your
suppositions is random. They all must be intelligently
designed because they can only be the result of
construction of new order with the result of reduced
entropy. They can't happen randomly by pure chance
because they can only be accomplished by moving against
the second law of thermodynamics. Moving against a
natural physical law can never be something random
because everything in the physical universe will only
follow the natural physical law.
A random copying error leading to the substitution of one
nucleotide for another nucleotide, one out of the hundred
million on a chromosome is not a reduction of entropy.
It does not "move against the second law" [sic]
It violates no physical law.
https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms15183
Wrong. Any DNA alteration unless it's just a simple break
down is always a construction of new DNA sequence. A DNA
molecule is built by preserving energy. It always defies
the second law from its very beginning. It's the same as
every sugar molecule is always the result of defying the
second law. You can't imagine anything happening in life
that doesn't defy the second law.
Secondly, if it's a random break down of healthy DNA, it
would lead to genetic disease. There is no beneficial DNA
change happening. Your special case actually demonstrates
life's intelligent ability to take the risk of genetic
disease for the future generation in order to deal with the
current life threatening crisis at hand. Such evidence of
intelligence can't be an aimless random mistake of data
exchange.
When was the last time you experience hard disk crash with
enhanced operating system performance?
What?
DNA is not a computer. It's not a car, a washing machine, or
a tennis racket either. A chromosome is not a hard drive.
You're doing biology-by-metaphor, which is what is making you
simply wrong. Wrong wrong wrong. Hilariously wrong.
DNA makes proteins. DNA makes thousands and thousands of
different proteins. Changing one nucleotide out of a hundred
million in one chromosome can very easily make no difference
at all. Changing one protein out of thousands can make a big
difference, a small difference, no difference at all. DNA is
not "running a program"; DNA is running thousands of
different subprograms. Some of them all of the time, some of
them almost never.
And a great deal of DNA does nothing at all. Ever.
The part that does do something, such as making proteins, is
in a redundant code. Which means you can change one
nucleotide and still have a decent chance of making exactly
the same protein. No change, no harm, no foul. None.
If you do change that one amino acid, it will most likely be
in a non critical portion of its protein. If it's not in the
active site, the pocket, and if it doesn't change the shape
of the protein, it makes no difference at all. Which is why
the same protein often occurs in many slightly different
variants among humans, and even more among animals.
A few proteins are so critical that they are termed "highly
conserved", which means they do not vary among humans, and
maybe not between humans and animals. Presumably you mess
with these, you're in trouble. Otherwise they would not have
been so rigidly selected for.
There are only a few such highly conserved proteins. The
remainder are much more variable. There's room for latitude,
and latitude is what we find. Small differences are
generally no difference at all.
Post by aaa
Your argument isn't even logical.
DNA is not a computer. A chromosome is not a hard drive.
That is a totally bogus metaphor. It is not even an
argument. Just a metaphor.
One that betrays a total ignorance of the way the genome
actually works.
Total.
OK, I guess I'm just weak. I'm in for one more round, looks
ooo
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Post by aaa
The language of DNA is superior to the language of computer.
The computer language is binary code. The DNA language is
quaternary code. With the same limited space, the DNA is
capable to store more information than a computer. This is why
life will always be greater than machines.
So, let's hear you hold on this "quaternary code". I'm not
talking about genes or DNA as a whole or genomes or anything of
the sort. Just the basics. What is this code? How many quats
does it take to specify an amino acid? It's a degenerate code,
why is it a degenerate code and is that a good thing or a bad
thing? How many binary bits would it take to specify the same
thing as this quaternary code does? Describe how it's redundant.
Show how the redundancy is damn near optimal.
You're finally going to babble some actual biochemistry, then let's you and me babble.
I'm neither a mathematician nor a bio-engineer. I can't give you
the specifics.
You just there tried to throw in something very specific, and when I
said "OK, let's talk about that very thing", you backed out quite briskly.
That's only because I have no experience with the language of DNA. I
believe our human understanding of the DNA code is still rather primitive.
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Post by aaa
I can only point out the obvious that can be seen and understood by
everyone.
If it's "the obvious", then people who actually understand what you
just admitted you do not will have reached the relevant conclusions
many decades ago.
It's never too late to realize the obvious.
Post by blue ringed 8
BR-8
Post by aaa
BR-8
(oh, and by the way: current research in atom based memory will
lead to computers storing information far more efficiently than
DNA does. But that will not affect anything: life will still be
superior to computers, because information density and binary vs.
quaternary has nothing to do with the superiority of life)
I have to disagree. I think the improved information technology
has given humanity greater power over our natural environment. This
should be a simple fact that everyone can see.
Post by aaa
Post by blue ringed 8
BR-8
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and life itself.
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart
with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and
from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads to
mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Can you point to an anatomic structure in humans that you couldn't
get from a lemur with a series of small changes? We'll wait.....
The real point is that for every change however small, it is
impossible to happen without being designed by intelligence. Random
mutation doesn't change anything. It only absolutely destroys
everything. There is never any evolution. There is only intelligent
design happening right in front of the eyes of the evolutionists.
+
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a specific protein, such as one strand of hemoglobin. Suppose that
Post by MarkA
a random change in a single amino acid causes the protein to function
at a slightly reduced level. Another, completely random change could
cause the original amino acid to be restored, thus improving the
function of the protein. This is a clear example of a random
mutation improving the function.
Your clear example is nothing but your suppositions. I question your
such suppositions. I believe none of your suppositions is random. They
all must be intelligently designed because they can only be the result
of construction of new order with the result of reduced entropy. They
can't happen randomly by pure chance because they can only be
accomplished by moving against the second law of thermodynamics.
Moving against a natural physical law can never be something random
because everything in the physical universe will only follow the
natural physical law.
A random copying error leading to the substitution of one nucleotide
for another nucleotide,
one out of the hundred million on a chromosome is not a reduction of entropy.
It does not "move against the second law" [sic]
It violates no physical law.
https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms15183
Wrong. Any DNA alteration unless it's just a simple break down is always
a construction of new DNA sequence. A DNA molecule is built by
preserving energy. It always defies the second law from its very
beginning. It's the same as every sugar molecule is always the result of
defying the second law. You can't imagine anything happening in life
that doesn't defy the second law.
Your misunderstanding of the second law of thermodynamics is impressive.
Try this: https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/physics/8-01sc-classical-mechanics-
fall-2016/index.htm?
utm_source=OCWDept&utm_medium=CarouselSm&utm_campaign=FeaturedCourse
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart
with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and
from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads to
mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Can you point to an anatomic structure in humans that you couldn't
get from a lemur with a series of small changes? We'll wait.....
The real point is that for every change however small, it is
impossible to happen without being designed by intelligence. Random
mutation doesn't change anything. It only absolutely destroys
everything. There is never any evolution. There is only intelligent
design happening right in front of the eyes of the evolutionists.
+
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a specific protein, such as one strand of hemoglobin. Suppose that
Post by MarkA
a random change in a single amino acid causes the protein to function
at a slightly reduced level. Another, completely random change could
cause the original amino acid to be restored, thus improving the
function of the protein. This is a clear example of a random
mutation improving the function.
Your clear example is nothing but your suppositions. I question your
such suppositions. I believe none of your suppositions is random. They
all must be intelligently designed because they can only be the result
of construction of new order with the result of reduced entropy. They
can't happen randomly by pure chance because they can only be
accomplished by moving against the second law of thermodynamics.
Moving against a natural physical law can never be something random
because everything in the physical universe will only follow the
natural physical law.
A random copying error leading to the substitution of one nucleotide
for another nucleotide,
one out of the hundred million on a chromosome is not a reduction of entropy.
It does not "move against the second law" [sic]
It violates no physical law.
https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms15183
Wrong. Any DNA alteration unless it's just a simple break down is always
a construction of new DNA sequence. A DNA molecule is built by
preserving energy. It always defies the second law from its very
beginning. It's the same as every sugar molecule is always the result of
defying the second law. You can't imagine anything happening in life
that doesn't defy the second law.
,,
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Your misunderstanding of the second law of thermodynamics is impressive.
Try this: https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/physics/8-01sc-classical-mechanics-
fall-2016/index.htm?
utm_source=OCWDept&utm_medium=CarouselSm&utm_campaign=FeaturedCourse
That looks interesting, but "aaa"s not into learning anything.

In fact, just the opposite: "understanding without learning" is his thing.

His own words. You can' t make this kind of thing up.

If he has ever clicked on a link -- and many have been suggested to him -- I'm not aware of it.

AA
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Your misunderstanding of the second law of thermodynamics is impressive.
Try this: https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/physics/8-01sc-classical-mechanics-
fall-2016/index.htm?
utm_source=OCWDept&utm_medium=CarouselSm&utm_campaign=FeaturedCourse
That looks interesting,
The link doesn't work.
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Your misunderstanding of the second law of thermodynamics is
https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/physics/8-01sc-classical-mechanics-
fall-2016/index.htm?
utm_source=OCWDept&utm_medium=CarouselSm&utm_campaign=FeaturedCourse
That looks interesting,
The link doesn't work.
The URL has probably been broken up with linefeeds. Just Google "open
courseware classical mechanics". If you dare.
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart
with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and
from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads to
mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Can you point to an anatomic structure in humans that you couldn't
get from a lemur with a series of small changes? We'll wait.....
The real point is that for every change however small, it is
impossible to happen without being designed by intelligence. Random
mutation doesn't change anything. It only absolutely destroys
everything. There is never any evolution. There is only intelligent
design happening right in front of the eyes of the evolutionists.
+
Post by MarkA
a specific protein, such as one strand of hemoglobin. Suppose that
Post by MarkA
a random change in a single amino acid causes the protein to function
at a slightly reduced level. Another, completely random change could
cause the original amino acid to be restored, thus improving the
function of the protein. This is a clear example of a random
mutation improving the function.
Your clear example is nothing but your suppositions. I question your
such suppositions. I believe none of your suppositions is random. They
all must be intelligently designed because they can only be the result
of construction of new order with the result of reduced entropy. They
can't happen randomly by pure chance because they can only be
accomplished by moving against the second law of thermodynamics.
Moving against a natural physical law can never be something random
because everything in the physical universe will only follow the
natural physical law.
A random copying error leading to the substitution of one nucleotide
for another nucleotide,
one out of the hundred million on a chromosome is not a reduction of entropy.
It does not "move against the second law" [sic]
It violates no physical law.
https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms15183
Wrong. Any DNA alteration unless it's just a simple break down is always
a construction of new DNA sequence. A DNA molecule is built by
preserving energy. It always defies the second law from its very
beginning. It's the same as every sugar molecule is always the result of
defying the second law. You can't imagine anything happening in life
that doesn't defy the second law.
Your misunderstanding of the second law of thermodynamics is impressive.
Try this: https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/physics/8-01sc-classical-mechanics-
fall-2016/index.htm?
utm_source=OCWDept&utm_medium=CarouselSm&utm_campaign=FeaturedCourse
Thanks, I'm impressed. Is this the best you can do?
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart
with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and
from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads to
mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Can you point to an anatomic structure in humans that you couldn't
get from a lemur with a series of small changes? We'll wait.....
The real point is that for every change however small, it is
impossible to happen without being designed by intelligence. Random
mutation doesn't change anything. It only absolutely destroys
everything. There is never any evolution. There is only intelligent
design happening right in front of the eyes of the evolutionists.
+
Post by MarkA
a specific protein, such as one strand of hemoglobin. Suppose that
Post by MarkA
a random change in a single amino acid causes the protein to function
at a slightly reduced level. Another, completely random change could
cause the original amino acid to be restored, thus improving the
function of the protein. This is a clear example of a random
mutation improving the function.
Your clear example is nothing but your suppositions. I question your
such suppositions. I believe none of your suppositions is random. They
all must be intelligently designed because they can only be the result
of construction of new order with the result of reduced entropy. They
can't happen randomly by pure chance because they can only be
accomplished by moving against the second law of thermodynamics.
Moving against a natural physical law can never be something random
because everything in the physical universe will only follow the
natural physical law.
A random copying error leading to the substitution of one nucleotide
for another nucleotide,
one out of the hundred million on a chromosome is not a reduction of entropy.
It does not "move against the second law" [sic]
It violates no physical law.
https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms15183
Wrong. Any DNA alteration unless it's just a simple break down is always
a construction of new DNA sequence. A DNA molecule is built by
preserving energy. It always defies the second law from its very
beginning. It's the same as every sugar molecule is always the result of
defying the second law. You can't imagine anything happening in life
that doesn't defy the second law.
Your misunderstanding of the second law of thermodynamics is impressive.
Try this: https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/physics/8-01sc-classical-mechanics-
fall-2016/index.htm?
utm_source=OCWDept&utm_medium=CarouselSm&utm_campaign=FeaturedCourse
Thanks, I'm impressed. Is this the best you can do?
When the best you seem able is to try to apply laws of physics to
biological and theological issues in a blatant attempt at obfuscation?
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart
with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and
from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads to
mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Can you point to an anatomic structure in humans that you couldn't
get from a lemur with a series of small changes? We'll wait.....
The real point is that for every change however small, it is
impossible to happen without being designed by intelligence. Random
mutation doesn't change anything. It only absolutely destroys
everything. There is never any evolution. There is only intelligent
design happening right in front of the eyes of the evolutionists.
+
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a specific protein, such as one strand of hemoglobin. Suppose that
Post by MarkA
a random change in a single amino acid causes the protein to function
at a slightly reduced level. Another, completely random change could
cause the original amino acid to be restored, thus improving the
function of the protein. This is a clear example of a random
mutation improving the function.
Your clear example is nothing but your suppositions. I question your
such suppositions. I believe none of your suppositions is random. They
all must be intelligently designed because they can only be the result
of construction of new order with the result of reduced entropy. They
can't happen randomly by pure chance because they can only be
accomplished by moving against the second law of thermodynamics.
Moving against a natural physical law can never be something random
because everything in the physical universe will only follow the
natural physical law.
A random copying error leading to the substitution of one nucleotide
for another nucleotide,
one out of the hundred million on a chromosome is not a reduction of entropy.
It does not "move against the second law" [sic]
It violates no physical law.
https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms15183
Wrong. Any DNA alteration unless it's just a simple break down is always
a construction of new DNA sequence. A DNA molecule is built by
preserving energy. It always defies the second law from its very
beginning. It's the same as every sugar molecule is always the result of
defying the second law. You can't imagine anything happening in life
that doesn't defy the second law.
Your misunderstanding of the second law of thermodynamics is impressive.
Try this: https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/physics/8-01sc-classical-mechanics-
fall-2016/index.htm?
utm_source=OCWDept&utm_medium=CarouselSm&utm_campaign=FeaturedCourse
Thanks, I'm impressed. Is this the best you can do?
When the best you seem able is to try to apply laws of physics to
biological and theological issues in a blatant attempt at obfuscation?
That's unfortunate. Everything in the universe is interconnected. The
second law as the law of energy is what's keeping life in this universe
alive. To better understand life, we need to better understand the
second law. With the better understanding of the second law, we will be
able to realize God's intelligent design of life. So we will truly
understand the real origin of life which is God himself.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart
with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and
from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads to
mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Can you point to an anatomic structure in humans that you couldn't
get from a lemur with a series of small changes? We'll wait.....
The real point is that for every change however small, it is
impossible to happen without being designed by intelligence. Random
mutation doesn't change anything. It only absolutely destroys
everything. There is never any evolution. There is only intelligent
design happening right in front of the eyes of the evolutionists.
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a specific protein, such as one strand of hemoglobin. Suppose that
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a random change in a single amino acid causes the protein to function
at a slightly reduced level. Another, completely random change could
cause the original amino acid to be restored, thus improving the
function of the protein. This is a clear example of a random
mutation improving the function.
Your clear example is nothing but your suppositions. I question your
such suppositions. I believe none of your suppositions is random. They
all must be intelligently designed because they can only be the result
of construction of new order with the result of reduced entropy. They
can't happen randomly by pure chance because they can only be
accomplished by moving against the second law of thermodynamics.
Moving against a natural physical law can never be something random
because everything in the physical universe will only follow the
natural physical law.
A random copying error leading to the substitution of one nucleotide
for another nucleotide,
one out of the hundred million on a chromosome is not a reduction of entropy.
It does not "move against the second law" [sic]
It violates no physical law.
https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms15183
Wrong. Any DNA alteration unless it's just a simple break down is always
a construction of new DNA sequence. A DNA molecule is built by
preserving energy. It always defies the second law from its very
beginning. It's the same as every sugar molecule is always the result of
defying the second law. You can't imagine anything happening in life
that doesn't defy the second law.
Your misunderstanding of the second law of thermodynamics is impressive.
Try this: https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/physics/8-01sc-classical-mechanics-
fall-2016/index.htm?
utm_source=OCWDept&utm_medium=CarouselSm&utm_campaign=FeaturedCourse
Thanks, I'm impressed. Is this the best you can do?
When the best you seem able is to try to apply laws of physics to
biological and theological issues in a blatant attempt at obfuscation?
That's unfortunate. Everything in the universe is interconnected. The
second law as the law of energy is what's keeping life in this universe
alive. To better understand life, we need to better understand the
second law. With the better understanding of the second law, we will be
able to realize God's intelligent design of life. So we will truly
understand the real origin of life which is God himself.
More gibberish from the chatterbot.
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart
with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and
from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads to
mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Can you point to an anatomic structure in humans that you couldn't
get from a lemur with a series of small changes? We'll wait.....
The real point is that for every change however small, it is
impossible to happen without being designed by intelligence. Random
mutation doesn't change anything. It only absolutely destroys
everything. There is never any evolution. There is only intelligent
design happening right in front of the eyes of the evolutionists.
+
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a specific protein, such as one strand of hemoglobin. Suppose that
Post by MarkA
a random change in a single amino acid causes the protein to function
at a slightly reduced level. Another, completely random change could
cause the original amino acid to be restored, thus improving the
function of the protein. This is a clear example of a random
mutation improving the function.
Your clear example is nothing but your suppositions. I question your
such suppositions. I believe none of your suppositions is random. They
all must be intelligently designed because they can only be the result
of construction of new order with the result of reduced entropy. They
can't happen randomly by pure chance because they can only be
accomplished by moving against the second law of thermodynamics.
Moving against a natural physical law can never be something random
because everything in the physical universe will only follow the
natural physical law.
A random copying error leading to the substitution of one nucleotide
for another nucleotide,
one out of the hundred million on a chromosome is not a reduction of entropy.
It does not "move against the second law" [sic]
It violates no physical law.
https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms15183
Wrong. Any DNA alteration unless it's just a simple break down is always
a construction of new DNA sequence. A DNA molecule is built by
preserving energy. It always defies the second law from its very
beginning. It's the same as every sugar molecule is always the result of
defying the second law. You can't imagine anything happening in life
that doesn't defy the second law.
Your misunderstanding of the second law of thermodynamics is impressive.
Try this: https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/physics/8-01sc-classical-mechanics-
fall-2016/index.htm?
utm_source=OCWDept&utm_medium=CarouselSm&utm_campaign=FeaturedCourse
Thanks, I'm impressed. Is this the best you can do?
When the best you seem able is to try to apply laws of physics to
biological and theological issues in a blatant attempt at obfuscation?
That's unfortunate. Everything in the universe is interconnected. The
second law as the law of energy is what's keeping life in this universe
alive. To better understand life, we need to better understand the
second law. With the better understanding of the second law, we will be
able to realize God's intelligent design of life. So we will truly
understand the real origin of life which is God himself.
More gibberish from the chatterbot.
If you don't want to understand the second law as I have, you are
naturally not going to understand what I'm talking about. The key
understanding of the second law is the energy preservation. If you take
the time to understand it, you will know without the slightest doubt
that life is intelligent design.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart
with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and
from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads to
mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Can you point to an anatomic structure in humans that you couldn't
get from a lemur with a series of small changes? We'll wait.....
The real point is that for every change however small, it is
impossible to happen without being designed by intelligence. Random
mutation doesn't change anything. It only absolutely destroys
everything. There is never any evolution. There is only intelligent
design happening right in front of the eyes of the evolutionists.
+
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a specific protein, such as one strand of hemoglobin. Suppose that
Post by MarkA
a random change in a single amino acid causes the protein to function
at a slightly reduced level. Another, completely random change could
cause the original amino acid to be restored, thus improving the
function of the protein. This is a clear example of a random
mutation improving the function.
Your clear example is nothing but your suppositions. I question your
such suppositions. I believe none of your suppositions is random. They
all must be intelligently designed because they can only be the result
of construction of new order with the result of reduced entropy. They
can't happen randomly by pure chance because they can only be
accomplished by moving against the second law of thermodynamics.
Moving against a natural physical law can never be something random
because everything in the physical universe will only follow the
natural physical law.
A random copying error leading to the substitution of one nucleotide
for another nucleotide,
one out of the hundred million on a chromosome is not a reduction of entropy.
It does not "move against the second law" [sic]
It violates no physical law.
https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms15183
Wrong. Any DNA alteration unless it's just a simple break down is always
a construction of new DNA sequence. A DNA molecule is built by
preserving energy. It always defies the second law from its very
beginning. It's the same as every sugar molecule is always the result of
defying the second law. You can't imagine anything happening in life
that doesn't defy the second law.
Your misunderstanding of the second law of thermodynamics is impressive.
Try this: https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/physics/8-01sc-classical-mechanics-
fall-2016/index.htm?
utm_source=OCWDept&utm_medium=CarouselSm&utm_campaign=FeaturedCourse
Thanks, I'm impressed. Is this the best you can do?
When the best you seem able is to try to apply laws of physics to
biological and theological issues in a blatant attempt at obfuscation?
That's unfortunate. Everything in the universe is interconnected. The
second law as the law of energy is what's keeping life in this universe
alive. To better understand life, we need to better understand the
second law. With the better understanding of the second law, we will be
able to realize God's intelligent design of life. So we will truly
understand the real origin of life which is God himself.
More gibberish from the chatterbot.
If you don't want to understand the second law as I have, you are
naturally not going to understand what I'm talking about. The key
understanding of the second law is the energy preservation. If you take
the time to understand it, you will know without the slightest doubt
that life is intelligent design.
Dogma is the antithesis of guidance.

The goal of frequencies is to plant the seeds of nature rather than
desire. Consciousness consists of atomic ionization of quantum energy.
“Quantum” means an awakening of the primordial. This life is nothing
short of an ennobling vision of infinite potentiality.

Have you found your myth? Although you may not realize it, the
stratosphere is calling to you via pulses. Can you hear it?

It is time to take life-force to the next level. The future will be a
sentient awakening of spacetime. God will enable us to access astral
understanding.
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart
with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and
from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads to
mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Can you point to an anatomic structure in humans that you couldn't
get from a lemur with a series of small changes? We'll wait.....
The real point is that for every change however small, it is
impossible to happen without being designed by intelligence. Random
mutation doesn't change anything. It only absolutely destroys
everything. There is never any evolution. There is only intelligent
design happening right in front of the eyes of the evolutionists.
+
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a specific protein, such as one strand of hemoglobin. Suppose that
Post by MarkA
a random change in a single amino acid causes the protein to function
at a slightly reduced level. Another, completely random change could
cause the original amino acid to be restored, thus improving the
function of the protein. This is a clear example of a random
mutation improving the function.
Your clear example is nothing but your suppositions. I question your
such suppositions. I believe none of your suppositions is random. They
all must be intelligently designed because they can only be the result
of construction of new order with the result of reduced entropy. They
can't happen randomly by pure chance because they can only be
accomplished by moving against the second law of thermodynamics.
Moving against a natural physical law can never be something random
because everything in the physical universe will only follow the
natural physical law.
A random copying error leading to the substitution of one nucleotide
for another nucleotide,
one out of the hundred million on a chromosome is not a reduction of
entropy.
It does not "move against the second law" [sic]
It violates no physical law.
https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms15183
Wrong. Any DNA alteration unless it's just a simple break down is always
a construction of new DNA sequence. A DNA molecule is built by
preserving energy. It always defies the second law from its very
beginning. It's the same as every sugar molecule is always the result of
defying the second law. You can't imagine anything happening in life
that doesn't defy the second law.
Your misunderstanding of the second law of thermodynamics is impressive.
Try this: https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/physics/8-01sc-classical-mechanics-
fall-2016/index.htm?
utm_source=OCWDept&utm_medium=CarouselSm&utm_campaign=FeaturedCourse
Thanks, I'm impressed. Is this the best you can do?
When the best you seem able is to try to apply laws of physics to
biological and theological issues in a blatant attempt at obfuscation?
That's unfortunate. Everything in the universe is interconnected. The
second law as the law of energy is what's keeping life in this universe
alive. To better understand life, we need to better understand the
second law. With the better understanding of the second law, we will be
able to realize God's intelligent design of life. So we will truly
understand the real origin of life which is God himself.
More gibberish from the chatterbot.
If you don't want to understand the second law as I have, you are
naturally not going to understand what I'm talking about. The key
understanding of the second law is the energy preservation. If you take
the time to understand it, you will know without the slightest doubt
that life is intelligent design.
Dogma is the antithesis of guidance.
The goal of frequencies is to plant the seeds of nature rather than
desire. Consciousness consists of atomic ionization of quantum energy.
“Quantum” means an awakening of the primordial. This life is nothing
short of an ennobling vision of infinite potentiality.
Have you found your myth? Although you may not realize it, the
stratosphere is calling to you via pulses. Can you hear it?
It is time to take life-force to the next level. The future will be a
sentient awakening of spacetime. God will enable us to access astral
understanding.
Great. As long as you acknowledge the existence of God, you are going to
have my complete support.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart
with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and
from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads to
mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Can you point to an anatomic structure in humans that you couldn't
get from a lemur with a series of small changes? We'll wait.....
The real point is that for every change however small, it is
impossible to happen without being designed by intelligence. Random
mutation doesn't change anything. It only absolutely destroys
everything. There is never any evolution. There is only intelligent
design happening right in front of the eyes of the evolutionists.
+
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a specific protein, such as one strand of hemoglobin. Suppose that
Post by MarkA
a random change in a single amino acid causes the protein to function
at a slightly reduced level. Another, completely random change could
cause the original amino acid to be restored, thus improving the
function of the protein. This is a clear example of a random
mutation improving the function.
Your clear example is nothing but your suppositions. I question your
such suppositions. I believe none of your suppositions is random. They
all must be intelligently designed because they can only be the result
of construction of new order with the result of reduced entropy. They
can't happen randomly by pure chance because they can only be
accomplished by moving against the second law of thermodynamics.
Moving against a natural physical law can never be something random
because everything in the physical universe will only follow the
natural physical law.
A random copying error leading to the substitution of one nucleotide
for another nucleotide,
one out of the hundred million on a chromosome is not a reduction of
entropy.
It does not "move against the second law" [sic]
It violates no physical law.
https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms15183
Wrong. Any DNA alteration unless it's just a simple break down is always
a construction of new DNA sequence. A DNA molecule is built by
preserving energy. It always defies the second law from its very
beginning. It's the same as every sugar molecule is always the result of
defying the second law. You can't imagine anything happening in life
that doesn't defy the second law.
Your misunderstanding of the second law of thermodynamics is impressive.
Try this: https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/physics/8-01sc-classical-mechanics-
fall-2016/index.htm?
utm_source=OCWDept&utm_medium=CarouselSm&utm_campaign=FeaturedCourse
Thanks, I'm impressed. Is this the best you can do?
When the best you seem able is to try to apply laws of physics to
biological and theological issues in a blatant attempt at obfuscation?
That's unfortunate. Everything in the universe is interconnected. The
second law as the law of energy is what's keeping life in this universe
alive. To better understand life, we need to better understand the
second law. With the better understanding of the second law, we will be
able to realize God's intelligent design of life. So we will truly
understand the real origin of life which is God himself.
More gibberish from the chatterbot.
If you don't want to understand the second law as I have, you are
naturally not going to understand what I'm talking about. The key
understanding of the second law is the energy preservation. If you take
the time to understand it, you will know without the slightest doubt
that life is intelligent design.
Dogma is the antithesis of guidance.
The goal of frequencies is to plant the seeds of nature rather than
desire. Consciousness consists of atomic ionization of quantum energy.
“Quantum” means an awakening of the primordial. This life is nothing
short of an ennobling vision of infinite potentiality.
Have you found your myth? Although you may not realize it, the
stratosphere is calling to you via pulses. Can you hear it?
It is time to take life-force to the next level. The future will be a
sentient awakening of spacetime. God will enable us to access astral
understanding.
Great. As long as you acknowledge the existence of God, you are going to
have my complete support.
I'm just refining my gibberish.
MarkA
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart
with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys
and from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads
to mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Can you point to an anatomic structure in humans that you
couldn't get from a lemur with a series of small changes? We'll
wait.....
The real point is that for every change however small, it is
impossible to happen without being designed by intelligence.
Random mutation doesn't change anything. It only absolutely
destroys everything. There is never any evolution. There is only
intelligent design happening right in front of the eyes of the
evolutionists.
+
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a specific protein, such as one strand of hemoglobin. Suppose that
Post by MarkA
a random change in a single amino acid causes the protein to
function at a slightly reduced level. Another, completely random
change could cause the original amino acid to be restored, thus
improving the function of the protein. This is a clear example of
a random mutation improving the function.
Your clear example is nothing but your suppositions. I question your
such suppositions. I believe none of your suppositions is random.
They all must be intelligently designed because they can only be the
result of construction of new order with the result of reduced
entropy. They can't happen randomly by pure chance because they can
only be accomplished by moving against the second law of
thermodynamics. Moving against a natural physical law can never be
something random because everything in the physical universe will
only follow the natural physical law.
A random copying error leading to the substitution of one nucleotide
for another nucleotide,
one out of the hundred million on a chromosome is not a reduction of entropy.
It does not "move against the second law" [sic]
It violates no physical law.
https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms15183
Wrong. Any DNA alteration unless it's just a simple break down is
always a construction of new DNA sequence. A DNA molecule is built by
preserving energy. It always defies the second law from its very
beginning. It's the same as every sugar molecule is always the result
of defying the second law. You can't imagine anything happening in
life that doesn't defy the second law.
Your misunderstanding of the second law of thermodynamics is
https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/physics/8-01sc-classical-mechanics-
fall-2016/index.htm?
utm_source=OCWDept&utm_medium=CarouselSm&utm_campaign=FeaturedCourse
Thanks, I'm impressed. Is this the best you can do?
If you really want to know what the Second Law of Thermodynamics really
says, it's more than enough. However, I suspect that is not your goal.
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putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it. -- Mark Twain
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart
with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys
and from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads
to mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Can you point to an anatomic structure in humans that you
couldn't get from a lemur with a series of small changes? We'll
wait.....
The real point is that for every change however small, it is
impossible to happen without being designed by intelligence.
Random mutation doesn't change anything. It only absolutely
destroys everything. There is never any evolution. There is only
intelligent design happening right in front of the eyes of the
evolutionists.
+
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a specific protein, such as one strand of hemoglobin. Suppose that
Post by MarkA
a random change in a single amino acid causes the protein to
function at a slightly reduced level. Another, completely random
change could cause the original amino acid to be restored, thus
improving the function of the protein. This is a clear example of
a random mutation improving the function.
Your clear example is nothing but your suppositions. I question your
such suppositions. I believe none of your suppositions is random.
They all must be intelligently designed because they can only be the
result of construction of new order with the result of reduced
entropy. They can't happen randomly by pure chance because they can
only be accomplished by moving against the second law of
thermodynamics. Moving against a natural physical law can never be
something random because everything in the physical universe will
only follow the natural physical law.
A random copying error leading to the substitution of one nucleotide
for another nucleotide,
one out of the hundred million on a chromosome is not a reduction of entropy.
It does not "move against the second law" [sic]
It violates no physical law.
https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms15183
Wrong. Any DNA alteration unless it's just a simple break down is
always a construction of new DNA sequence. A DNA molecule is built by
preserving energy. It always defies the second law from its very
beginning. It's the same as every sugar molecule is always the result
of defying the second law. You can't imagine anything happening in
life that doesn't defy the second law.
Your misunderstanding of the second law of thermodynamics is
https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/physics/8-01sc-classical-mechanics-
fall-2016/index.htm?
utm_source=OCWDept&utm_medium=CarouselSm&utm_campaign=FeaturedCourse
Thanks, I'm impressed. Is this the best you can do?
If you really want to know what the Second Law of Thermodynamics really
says, it's more than enough. However, I suspect that is not your goal.
I think I'm qualified to teach the second law by now. In fact, I can
teach you the full version of the second law that no one has taught you
before. It's not just about the using or consuming energy. It also
includes how to preserving energy. The second law says that the energy
in the universe will always be lost to increase entropy, but it
neglected to say that the energy in the universe can also be preserved
to keep it from being lost. Such preservation of energy under the second
law is why life is possible. Such preservation of energy is also why
evolution is proven wrong.
--
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Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart
with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys
and from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads
to mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Can you point to an anatomic structure in humans that you
couldn't get from a lemur with a series of small changes? We'll
wait.....
The real point is that for every change however small, it is
impossible to happen without being designed by intelligence.
Random mutation doesn't change anything. It only absolutely
destroys everything. There is never any evolution. There is only
intelligent design happening right in front of the eyes of the
evolutionists.
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a specific protein, such as one strand of hemoglobin. Suppose that
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a random change in a single amino acid causes the protein to
function at a slightly reduced level. Another, completely random
change could cause the original amino acid to be restored, thus
improving the function of the protein. This is a clear example of
a random mutation improving the function.
Your clear example is nothing but your suppositions. I question your
such suppositions. I believe none of your suppositions is random.
They all must be intelligently designed because they can only be the
result of construction of new order with the result of reduced
entropy. They can't happen randomly by pure chance because they can
only be accomplished by moving against the second law of
thermodynamics. Moving against a natural physical law can never be
something random because everything in the physical universe will
only follow the natural physical law.
A random copying error leading to the substitution of one nucleotide
for another nucleotide,
one out of the hundred million on a chromosome is not a reduction of entropy.
It does not "move against the second law" [sic]
It violates no physical law.
https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms15183
Wrong. Any DNA alteration unless it's just a simple break down is
always a construction of new DNA sequence. A DNA molecule is built by
preserving energy. It always defies the second law from its very
beginning. It's the same as every sugar molecule is always the result
of defying the second law. You can't imagine anything happening in
life that doesn't defy the second law.
Your misunderstanding of the second law of thermodynamics is
https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/physics/8-01sc-classical-mechanics-
fall-2016/index.htm?
utm_source=OCWDept&utm_medium=CarouselSm&utm_campaign=FeaturedCourse
Thanks, I'm impressed. Is this the best you can do?
If you really want to know what the Second Law of Thermodynamics really
says, it's more than enough. However, I suspect that is not your goal.
I think I'm qualified to teach the second law by now.
Fine, HHH. I've not been trained much on the LOT, except when in a Senior level course in Geochemistry, we spent quite a bit of time on the Gibbs Free Energy equation.

I'd like to refresh my memory on Gibbs.

You're supposedly the qualified instructor. Do it.

Marvin Sebourn
***@aol.com


In fact, I can
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teach you the full version of the second law that no one has taught you
before. It's not just about the using or consuming energy. It also
includes how to preserving energy. The second law says that the energy
in the universe will always be lost to increase entropy, but it
neglected to say that the energy in the universe can also be preserved
to keep it from being lost. Such preservation of energy under the second
law is why life is possible. Such preservation of energy is also why
evolution is proven wrong.
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aaa
2018-06-16 16:18:06 UTC
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart
with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys
and from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads
to mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Can you point to an anatomic structure in humans that you
couldn't get from a lemur with a series of small changes? We'll
wait.....
The real point is that for every change however small, it is
impossible to happen without being designed by intelligence.
Random mutation doesn't change anything. It only absolutely
destroys everything. There is never any evolution. There is only
intelligent design happening right in front of the eyes of the
evolutionists.
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a specific protein, such as one strand of hemoglobin. Suppose that
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a random change in a single amino acid causes the protein to
function at a slightly reduced level. Another, completely random
change could cause the original amino acid to be restored, thus
improving the function of the protein. This is a clear example of
a random mutation improving the function.
Your clear example is nothing but your suppositions. I question your
such suppositions. I believe none of your suppositions is random.
They all must be intelligently designed because they can only be the
result of construction of new order with the result of reduced
entropy. They can't happen randomly by pure chance because they can
only be accomplished by moving against the second law of
thermodynamics. Moving against a natural physical law can never be
something random because everything in the physical universe will
only follow the natural physical law.
A random copying error leading to the substitution of one nucleotide
for another nucleotide,
one out of the hundred million on a chromosome is not a reduction of entropy.
It does not "move against the second law" [sic]
It violates no physical law.
https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms15183
Wrong. Any DNA alteration unless it's just a simple break down is
always a construction of new DNA sequence. A DNA molecule is built by
preserving energy. It always defies the second law from its very
beginning. It's the same as every sugar molecule is always the result
of defying the second law. You can't imagine anything happening in
life that doesn't defy the second law.
Your misunderstanding of the second law of thermodynamics is
https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/physics/8-01sc-classical-mechanics-
fall-2016/index.htm?
utm_source=OCWDept&utm_medium=CarouselSm&utm_campaign=FeaturedCourse
Thanks, I'm impressed. Is this the best you can do?
If you really want to know what the Second Law of Thermodynamics really
says, it's more than enough. However, I suspect that is not your goal.
I think I'm qualified to teach the second law by now.
Fine, HHH. I've not been trained much on the LOT, except when in a Senior level course in Geochemistry, we spent quite a bit of time on the Gibbs Free Energy equation.
I'd like to refresh my memory on Gibbs.
You're supposedly the qualified instructor. Do it.
Sorry, that's something you should consult a text book or ask a
university professor. I don't get paid enough to teach you university
classes.
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Marvin Sebourn
In fact, I can
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teach you the full version of the second law that no one has taught you
before. It's not just about the using or consuming energy. It also
includes how to preserving energy. The second law says that the energy
in the universe will always be lost to increase entropy, but it
neglected to say that the energy in the universe can also be preserved
to keep it from being lost. Such preservation of energy under the second
law is why life is possible. Such preservation of energy is also why
evolution is proven wrong.
--
Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
blue ringed 8
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart
with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys
and from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads
to mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Can you point to an anatomic structure in humans that you
couldn't get from a lemur with a series of small changes? We'll
wait.....
The real point is that for every change however small, it is
impossible to happen without being designed by intelligence.
Random mutation doesn't change anything. It only absolutely
destroys everything. There is never any evolution. There is only
intelligent design happening right in front of the eyes of the
evolutionists.
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a specific protein, such as one strand of hemoglobin. Suppose that
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a random change in a single amino acid causes the protein to
function at a slightly reduced level. Another, completely random
change could cause the original amino acid to be restored, thus
improving the function of the protein. This is a clear example of
a random mutation improving the function.
Your clear example is nothing but your suppositions. I question your
such suppositions. I believe none of your suppositions is random.
They all must be intelligently designed because they can only be the
result of construction of new order with the result of reduced
entropy. They can't happen randomly by pure chance because they can
only be accomplished by moving against the second law of
thermodynamics. Moving against a natural physical law can never be
something random because everything in the physical universe will
only follow the natural physical law.
A random copying error leading to the substitution of one nucleotide
for another nucleotide,
one out of the hundred million on a chromosome is not a reduction of
entropy.
It does not "move against the second law" [sic]
It violates no physical law.
https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms15183
Wrong. Any DNA alteration unless it's just a simple break down is
always a construction of new DNA sequence. A DNA molecule is built by
preserving energy. It always defies the second law from its very
beginning. It's the same as every sugar molecule is always the result
of defying the second law. You can't imagine anything happening in
life that doesn't defy the second law.
Your misunderstanding of the second law of thermodynamics is
https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/physics/8-01sc-classical-mechanics-
fall-2016/index.htm?
utm_source=OCWDept&utm_medium=CarouselSm&utm_campaign=FeaturedCourse
Thanks, I'm impressed. Is this the best you can do?
If you really want to know what the Second Law of Thermodynamics really
says, it's more than enough. However, I suspect that is not your goal.
,,
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I think I'm qualified to teach the second law by now.
Fine, HHH. I've not been trained much on the LOT, except when in a Senior level course in Geochemistry, we spent quite a bit of time on the Gibbs Free Energy equation.
I'd like to refresh my memory on Gibbs.
You're supposedly the qualified instructor. Do it.
Sorry, that's something you should consult a text book or ask a
university professor. I don't get paid enough to teach you university
classes.
Or to put that more succinctly -- as well as truthfully --
you made a brag, Marvin called you on it, and you ran away like
a whipped little bitch.

You're fooling no one.

With the possible -- make that "likely" -- with the likely exception of your own self.


BR-8
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In fact, I can
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teach you the full version of the second law that no one has taught you
before. It's not just about the using or consuming energy. It also
includes how to preserving energy. The second law says that the energy
in the universe will always be lost to increase entropy, but it
neglected to say that the energy in the universe can also be preserved
to keep it from being lost. Such preservation of energy under the second
law is why life is possible. Such preservation of energy is also why
evolution is proven wrong.
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Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
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happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
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2018-06-17 04:20:02 UTC
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart with a
diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and from that
main stock also came great apes. This all leads to mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Can you point to an anatomic structure in humans that you couldn't get
from a lemur with a series of small changes? We'll wait.....
The real point is that for every change however small, it is impossible to
happen without being designed by intelligence. Random mutation doesn't
Unsupported claim.
change anything. It only absolutely destroys everything. There is never
any evolution. There is only intelligent design happening right in front
of the eyes of the evolutionists.
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[...]
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
It isn't our fault you are an uneducated creationist idiot. Go throw
your feces at your monkey-brained parents.
aaa
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https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
It isn't our fault you are an uneducated creationist idiot. Go throw
your feces at your monkey-brained parents.
At least, creationism is a well established human philosophy throughout
the human civilization. What do you think evolution is? A scientific
non-philosophical philosophy? Intellectually speaking, you can't even
justify evolution to be anything legitimate. It's a bastard crossbreed
between philosophy and science. If you call it science, it's in no
position to argue against creationism philosophically. If you want it to
argue against creationism, you have effectively made evolution just
another man-made philosophical ideology that is no different from Marxism.
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God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
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2018-06-15 12:56:26 UTC
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https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
It isn't our fault you are an uneducated creationist idiot. Go throw
your feces at your monkey-brained parents.
At least, creationism is a well established human philosophy throughout
the human civilization. What do you think evolution is? A scientific
non-philosophical philosophy? Intellectually speaking, you can't even
justify evolution to be anything legitimate. It's a bastard crossbreed
between philosophy and science. If you call it science, it's in no
position to argue against creationism philosophically. If you want it to
argue against creationism, you have effectively made evolution just
another man-made philosophical ideology that is no different from Marxism.
You just compared creationism with Marxism while falsely categorizing
science as a philosophy. Pretty funny stuff.

Also, creationism is only "well established" among creationists. Their
only attempt at proof is "goddidit". The remaining 95+% of the world's
population give it no credence.

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[...]
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
It isn't our fault you are an uneducated creationist idiot. Go throw
your feces at your monkey-brained parents.
At least, creationism is a well established human philosophy throughout
the human civilization. What do you think evolution is? A scientific
non-philosophical philosophy? Intellectually speaking, you can't even
justify evolution to be anything legitimate. It's a bastard crossbreed
between philosophy and science. If you call it science, it's in no
position to argue against creationism philosophically. If you want it to
argue against creationism, you have effectively made evolution just
another man-made philosophical ideology that is no different from Marxism.
You just compared creationism with Marxism while falsely categorizing
science as a philosophy. Pretty funny stuff.
Not really. The evolution theory is a man-made ideology to replace God.
Creationism is a revelation from God as the core teaching of Bible
philosophy. They are entirely different things.
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Also, creationism is only "well established" among creationists. Their
only attempt at proof is "goddidit". The remaining 95+% of the world's
population give it no credence.
That's only your prejudiced opinion. The Bible is a legitimate book of
philosophy that belongs to all humanity. The teaching of the Bible is an
important part of human civilization that should not and will not be
underestimated.
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Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
Marvin Sebourn
2018-06-14 23:48:57 UTC
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads to mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
You are a monkey, as shown in this NG, because logical and truthful replies to your imaginings have many times made a monkey of you.


Marvin Sebourn
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Kit
2018-06-15 00:12:00 UTC
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads to mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
Pot. kettle. black.

"The moon landings were faked."
"Evolution is a conspiracy by scientists to discredit creation.
"Serena William is a man."
"Ron Wyatt found Noah's Ark."

-- Kit
StanFast
2018-06-15 13:33:05 UTC
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads to mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
there is indications in analyzing man and chimp DNA that both came from the same DNA template. That does not mean it happened the way they say.
Gronk
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Here's a new one. It's a link to a chart. It's a yellow chart with a diagram showing how from lemurs came Old world monkeys and from that main stock also came great apes. This all leads to mankind.
This is the schlock that evolutionists teach.
https://imgur.com/a/G1IOeVN
This is the schlock that creationists teach

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