Charles Darwin's College Degree

[Andrew]

From curiosity I searched to find our what College Degree
Charles Darwin earned. What I learned was that he started
out to become a Physician like his father and Grandfather.
However this was not his interest. After dropping out from
medical school, he earned a BA degree in 1831 and a MS degree in
1836 at Christ college at Cambridge. At some time in his life he went
to Oxford where he eared a degree in theology.
There seems to be some confusion regarding his AB degree at Christ
College. Some sources say it Was theology.

Interesting. Thanks for posting.

If Darwin's only degree was theology, how is it that he is
revered as a scientist?

Because he helped formulate a worldview where God
was omitted from origins which was more pleasing to
the increasingly godless society.

If asking stupid questions is a sign of your IQ...

Why did you?

One does not need a degree to be a scientist.

Anyone can be a pseudo-scientist.

[Mitchell Holman]

Post by Andrew

From curiosity I searched to find our what College Degree
Charles Darwin earned. What I learned was that he started
out to become a Physician like his father and Grandfather.
However this was not his interest. After dropping out from
medical school, he earned a BA degree in 1831 and a MS degree in
1836 at Christ college at Cambridge. At some time in his life he
went to Oxford where he eared a degree in theology.
There seems to be some confusion regarding his AB degree at
Christ College. Some sources say it Was theology.

Interesting. Thanks for posting.

If Darwin's only degree was theology, how is it that he is
revered as a scientist?

Because he helped formulate a worldview where God
was omitted from origins which was more pleasing to
the increasingly godless society.

Because of Darwin "god was omitted from origins"?

Because of Pasteur "god was omitted from disease"?

Because of Halley "god was omitted from comets"?

Does the discovery of every natural process
require "removing god" from it?

[Andrew]

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Andrew

From curiosity I searched to find our what College Degree
Charles Darwin earned. What I learned was that he started
out to become a Physician like his father and Grandfather.
However this was not his interest. After dropping out from
medical school, he earned a BA degree in 1831 and a MS degree in
1836 at Christ college at Cambridge. At some time in his life he
went to Oxford where he eared a degree in theology.
There seems to be some confusion regarding his AB degree at
Christ College. Some sources say it Was theology.

Interesting. Thanks for posting.

If Darwin's only degree was theology, how is it that he is
revered as a scientist?

Because he helped formulate a worldview where God
was omitted from origins which was more pleasing to
the increasingly godless society.

Because of Darwin "god was omitted from origins"?
Because of Pasteur "god was omitted from disease"?
Because of Halley "god was omitted from comets"?
Does the discovery of every natural process
require "removing god" from it?

Was there a 'natural process' that Darwin discovered
that wasn't already known by Mendel and others? No.

The "goo to you" story is not a 'natural process'.

Rather it is only a phantasy.

[Mitchell Holman]

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Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Andrew

From curiosity I searched to find our what College Degree
Charles Darwin earned. What I learned was that he started
out to become a Physician like his father and Grandfather.
However this was not his interest. After dropping out from
medical school, he earned a BA degree in 1831 and a MS degree
in 1836 at Christ college at Cambridge. At some time in his
life he went to Oxford where he eared a degree in theology.
There seems to be some confusion regarding his AB degree at
Christ College. Some sources say it Was theology.

Interesting. Thanks for posting.

If Darwin's only degree was theology, how is it that he is
revered as a scientist?

Because he helped formulate a worldview where God
was omitted from origins which was more pleasing to
the increasingly godless society.

Because of Darwin "god was omitted from origins"?
Because of Pasteur "god was omitted from disease"?
Because of Halley "god was omitted from comets"?
Does the discovery of every natural process
require "removing god" from it?

Was there a 'natural process' that Darwin discovered
that wasn't already known by Mendel and others? No.

Wrong.

Darwin published his first book on evolution
in 1856. Mendel didn't publish anything until 9
years later, in 1865.

Are you saying Darwin went forward in time,
grabbed Mendel's book, and went back in time to
copy them?

[Andrew]

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Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Andrew

From curiosity I searched to find our what College Degree
Charles Darwin earned. What I learned was that he started
out to become a Physician like his father and Grandfather.
However this was not his interest. After dropping out from
medical school, he earned a BA degree in 1831 and a MS degree
in 1836 at Christ college at Cambridge. At some time in his
life he went to Oxford where he eared a degree in theology.
There seems to be some confusion regarding his AB degree at
Christ College. Some sources say it Was theology.

Interesting. Thanks for posting.

If Darwin's only degree was theology, how is it that he is
revered as a scientist?

Because he helped formulate a worldview where God
was omitted from origins which was more pleasing to
the increasingly godless society.

Because of Darwin "god was omitted from origins"?
Because of Pasteur "god was omitted from disease"?
Because of Halley "god was omitted from comets"?
Does the discovery of every natural process
require "removing god" from it?

Was there a 'natural process' that Darwin discovered
that wasn't already known by Mendel and others? No.

Wrong.

Then tell us, exactly what is this 'natural process'
that Darwin was the very first person to discover?

Thanks.

Post by Mitchell Holman
Darwin published his first book on evolution
in 1856. Mendel didn't publish anything until 9
years later, in 1865.
Are you saying Darwin went forward in time,
grabbed Mendel's book, and went back in time to
copy them?

[W.T.S., vrn-The Lamp of Golden Truth!*]

Post by Andrew

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Andrew

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Andrew

From curiosity I searched to find our what College Degree
Charles Darwin earned. What I learned was that he started
out to become a Physician like his father and Grandfather.
However this was not his interest. After dropping out from
medical school, he earned a BA degree in 1831 and a MS degree
in 1836 at Christ college at Cambridge. At some time in his
life he went to Oxford where he eared a degree in theology.
There seems to be some confusion regarding his AB degree at
Christ College. Some sources say it Was theology.

Interesting. Thanks for posting.

If Darwin's only degree was theology, how is it that he is
revered as a scientist?

Because he helped formulate a worldview where God
was omitted from origins which was more pleasing to
the increasingly godless society.

Because of Darwin "god was omitted from origins"?
Because of Pasteur "god was omitted from disease"?
Because of Halley "god was omitted from comets"?
Does the discovery of every natural process
require "removing god" from it?

Was there a 'natural process' that Darwin discovered
that wasn't already known by Mendel and others? No.

Wrong.

Then tell us, exactly what is this 'natural process'
that Darwin was the very first person to discover?
Thanks.

Certainly, follow these links:

<https://sphericalbullshit.wordpress.com/2013/05/02/what-i-would-say-to-
creationists-if-i-was-more-of-a-dick/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zascach>

< https://edthemanicstreetpreacher.wordpress.com/2010/04/09/dawkins-
berlinski/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zmv3xf2>

<https://www.theguardian.com/science/head-quarters/2014/feb/06/22-
answers-creationism-evolution-bill-nye-ken-ham-debate>

<http://tinyurl.com/hwjf83d>

<http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/dumb-things-creationists-
say/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zq9wt5k>

<http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/20/magazine/unintelligent-design.html?
_r=0>

<http://tinyurl.com/h7ubjta>

<http://www.eoht.info/page/Creationism+scientists+ranked+by+idiocy>

<http://tinyurl.com/h5y2gao>

<https://www.chess.com/groups/forumview/18-creationist-arguments-
debunked>

<http://tinyurl.com/zb7sfyr>

<http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Category:Creationism>

<http://tinyurl.com/zt8dycq>

<https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/jan/28/creation-origin-life-
future-adam-rutherford-review>

<http://tinyurl.com/hsj6u6y>

<http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2016/06/07/what-do-physicists-
think-of-michio-kaku/>

<http://tinyurl.com/j32bskg>

<http://undsci.berkeley.edu/article/howscienceworks_16>

<http://tinyurl.com/3p4e7mx>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Darwin>

<http://tinyurl.com/jyzjfar>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregor_Mendel>

<http://tinyurl.com/pcqylyj>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution>

<http://tinyurl.com/7vw8ozk>

<http://www.famousscientists.org/charles-darwin/>

<http://tinyurl.com/jpr7p5v>

<http://darwin-online.org.uk/biography.html>

<http://tinyurl.com/5p6znj>

"Creation science" has not entered the curriculum for a reason so
simple and so basic that we often forget to mention it: because it is
false, and because good teachers understand exactly why it is false.
What could be more destructive of that most fragile yet most precious
commodity in our entire intellectual heritage -- good teaching -- than
a bill forcing honourable teachers to sully their sacred trust by
granting equal treatment to a doctrine not only known to be false, but
calculated to undermine any general understanding of science as an
enterprise? - Stephen Jay Gould.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Jay_Gould>

<http://tinyurl.com/jc3ckub>

<http://www.journals.elsevier.com/journal-of-human-evolution>

<http://tinyurl.com/jsalxfe>

<http://www.annualreviews.org/journal/ecolsys>

<http://tinyurl.com/z8o6zan>

<http://www.cell.com/trends/ecology-evolution/home>

<http://tinyurl.com/pwg6fak>

http://youtu.be/F1ibEaIPtMk

<http://tinyurl.com/hy7xymb>

<http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Falldidit#Falldidit>

<http://tinyurl.com/z4z77ra>

Post by Andrew

Post by Mitchell Holman
Darwin published his first book on evolution
in 1856. Mendel didn't publish anything until 9
years later, in 1865.
Are you saying Darwin went forward in time,
grabbed Mendel's book, and went back in time to
copy them?

[nature bats last]

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Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Andrew

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Andrew

From curiosity I searched to find our what College Degree
Charles Darwin earned. What I learned was that he started
out to become a Physician like his father and Grandfather.
However this was not his interest. After dropping out from
medical school, he earned a BA degree in 1831 and a MS degree
in 1836 at Christ college at Cambridge. At some time in his
life he went to Oxford where he eared a degree in theology.
There seems to be some confusion regarding his AB degree at
Christ College. Some sources say it Was theology.

Interesting. Thanks for posting.

If Darwin's only degree was theology, how is it that he is
revered as a scientist?

Because he helped formulate a worldview where God
was omitted from origins which was more pleasing to
the increasingly godless society.

Because of Darwin "god was omitted from origins"?
Because of Pasteur "god was omitted from disease"?
Because of Halley "god was omitted from comets"?
Does the discovery of every natural process
require "removing god" from it?

Was there a 'natural process' that Darwin discovered
that wasn't already known by Mendel and others? No.

Wrong.

.> Then tell us, exactly what is this 'natural process'
.> that Darwin was the very first person to discover?

And discuss yet one more dreary time something we've gone
over and over and over and over for years now? I suggest that
we instead talk about something more recent and novel --
do tell us more about how Obama will not be stepping down,
and give us more detail on these "events [that will ] occur on a scale
you have never seen before, or even dreamed of".

Sounds fascinating.


Seth

Post by Andrew
Thanks.

Post by Mitchell Holman
Darwin published his first book on evolution
in 1856. Mendel didn't publish anything until 9
years later, in 1865.
Are you saying Darwin went forward in time,
grabbed Mendel's book, and went back in time to
copy them?

[Andrew]

Post by nature bats last

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Andrew

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Andrew

From curiosity I searched to find our what College Degree
Charles Darwin earned. What I learned was that he started
out to become a Physician like his father and Grandfather.
However this was not his interest. After dropping out from
medical school, he earned a BA degree in 1831 and a MS degree
in 1836 at Christ college at Cambridge. At some time in his
life he went to Oxford where he eared a degree in theology.
There seems to be some confusion regarding his AB degree at
Christ College. Some sources say it Was theology.

Interesting. Thanks for posting.

If Darwin's only degree was theology, how is it that he is
revered as a scientist?

Because he helped formulate a worldview where God
was omitted from origins which was more pleasing to
the increasingly godless society.

Because of Darwin "god was omitted from origins"?
Because of Pasteur "god was omitted from disease"?
Because of Halley "god was omitted from comets"?
Does the discovery of every natural process
require "removing god" from it?

Was there a 'natural process' that Darwin discovered
that wasn't already known by Mendel and others? No.

Wrong.

.> Then tell us, exactly what is this 'natural process'
.> that Darwin was the very first person to discover?
And discuss yet one more dreary time something we've gone
over and over and over and over for years now? I suggest that
we instead talk about something more recent and novel --

Just help him out and answer the question.

"What is this 'natural process' that Darwin
was --the very first person-- to discover?"

Post by nature bats last
do tell us more about how Obama will not be stepping down,
and give us more detail on these "events [that will ] occur on a scale
you have never seen before, or even dreamed of".
Sounds fascinating.
Seth

[W.T.S., vrn-The Lamp of Golden Truth!*]

Post by Andrew

Post by nature bats last

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Andrew

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Andrew

From curiosity I searched to find our what College Degree
Charles Darwin earned. What I learned was that he started
out to become a Physician like his father and Grandfather.
However this was not his interest. After dropping out from
medical school, he earned a BA degree in 1831 and a MS
degree in 1836 at Christ college at Cambridge. At some
time in his life he went to Oxford where he eared a
degree in theology.
There seems to be some confusion regarding his AB degree
at Christ College. Some sources say it Was theology.

Interesting. Thanks for posting.

If Darwin's only degree was theology, how is it that he is
revered as a scientist?

Because he helped formulate a worldview where God
was omitted from origins which was more pleasing to
the increasingly godless society.

Because of Darwin "god was omitted from origins"?
Because of Pasteur "god was omitted from disease"?
Because of Halley "god was omitted from comets"?
Does the discovery of every natural process
require "removing god" from it?

Was there a 'natural process' that Darwin discovered
that wasn't already known by Mendel and others? No.

Wrong.

.> Then tell us, exactly what is this 'natural process'
.> that Darwin was the very first person to discover?
And discuss yet one more dreary time something we've gone
over and over and over and over for years now? I suggest that
we instead talk about something more recent and novel --

Just help him out and answer the question.
"What is this 'natural process' that Darwin
was --the very first person-- to discover?"

Certainly:

<https://sphericalbullshit.wordpress.com/2013/05/02/what-i-would-say-to-
creationists-if-i-was-more-of-a-dick/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zascach>

< https://edthemanicstreetpreacher.wordpress.com/2010/04/09/dawkins-
berlinski/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zmv3xf2>

<https://www.theguardian.com/science/head-quarters/2014/feb/06/22-
answers-creationism-evolution-bill-nye-ken-ham-debate>

<http://tinyurl.com/hwjf83d>

<http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/dumb-things-creationists-
say/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zq9wt5k>

<http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/20/magazine/unintelligent-design.html?
_r=0>

<http://tinyurl.com/h7ubjta>

<http://www.eoht.info/page/Creationism+scientists+ranked+by+idiocy>

<http://tinyurl.com/h5y2gao>

<https://www.chess.com/groups/forumview/18-creationist-arguments-
debunked>

<http://tinyurl.com/zb7sfyr>

<http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Category:Creationism>

<http://tinyurl.com/zt8dycq>

<https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/jan/28/creation-origin-life-
future-adam-rutherford-review>

<http://tinyurl.com/hsj6u6y>

<http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2016/06/07/what-do-physicists-
think-of-michio-kaku/>

<http://tinyurl.com/j32bskg>

<http://undsci.berkeley.edu/article/howscienceworks_16>

<http://tinyurl.com/3p4e7mx>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Darwin>

<http://tinyurl.com/jyzjfar>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregor_Mendel>

<http://tinyurl.com/pcqylyj>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution>

<http://tinyurl.com/7vw8ozk>

<http://www.famousscientists.org/charles-darwin/>

<http://tinyurl.com/jpr7p5v>

<http://darwin-online.org.uk/biography.html>

<http://tinyurl.com/5p6znj>

"Creation science" has not entered the curriculum for a reason so
simple and so basic that we often forget to mention it: because it is
false, and because good teachers understand exactly why it is false.
What could be more destructive of that most fragile yet most precious
commodity in our entire intellectual heritage -- good teaching -- than
a bill forcing honourable teachers to sully their sacred trust by
granting equal treatment to a doctrine not only known to be false, but
calculated to undermine any general understanding of science as an
enterprise? - Stephen Jay Gould.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Jay_Gould>

<http://tinyurl.com/jc3ckub>

<http://www.journals.elsevier.com/journal-of-human-evolution>

<http://tinyurl.com/jsalxfe>

<http://www.annualreviews.org/journal/ecolsys>

<http://tinyurl.com/z8o6zan>

<http://www.cell.com/trends/ecology-evolution/home>

<http://tinyurl.com/pwg6fak>

http://youtu.be/F1ibEaIPtMk

<http://tinyurl.com/hy7xymb>

<http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Falldidit#Falldidit>

<http://tinyurl.com/z4z77ra>

Post by Andrew

Post by nature bats last
do tell us more about how Obama will not be stepping down,
and give us more detail on these "events [that will ] occur on a
scale you have never seen before, or even dreamed of".
Sounds fascinating.
Seth

[Mitchell Holman]

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Post by Mitchell Holman

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Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Andrew

From curiosity I searched to find our what College Degree
Charles Darwin earned. What I learned was that he started
out to become a Physician like his father and Grandfather.
However this was not his interest. After dropping out from
medical school, he earned a BA degree in 1831 and a MS degree
in 1836 at Christ college at Cambridge. At some time in his
life he went to Oxford where he eared a degree in theology.
There seems to be some confusion regarding his AB degree at
Christ College. Some sources say it Was theology.

Interesting. Thanks for posting.

If Darwin's only degree was theology, how is it that he is
revered as a scientist?

Because he helped formulate a worldview where God
was omitted from origins which was more pleasing to
the increasingly godless society.

Because of Darwin "god was omitted from origins"?
Because of Pasteur "god was omitted from disease"?
Because of Halley "god was omitted from comets"?
Does the discovery of every natural process
require "removing god" from it?

Was there a 'natural process' that Darwin discovered
that wasn't already known by Mendel and others? No.

Wrong.

Then tell us, exactly what is this 'natural process'
that Darwin was the very first person to discover?

Read his book.

In the meantime back up your claim that it
is based on Mendels book that didn't exist yet.

[Andrew]

Post by Mitchell Holman

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Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Andrew

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Andrew

From curiosity I searched to find our what College Degree
Charles Darwin earned. What I learned was that he started
out to become a Physician like his father and Grandfather.
However this was not his interest. After dropping out from
medical school, he earned a BA degree in 1831 and a MS degree
in 1836 at Christ college at Cambridge. At some time in his
life he went to Oxford where he eared a degree in theology.
There seems to be some confusion regarding his AB degree at
Christ College. Some sources say it Was theology.

Interesting. Thanks for posting.

If Darwin's only degree was theology, how is it that he is
revered as a scientist?

Because he helped formulate a worldview where God
was omitted from origins which was more pleasing to
the increasingly godless society.

Because of Darwin "god was omitted from origins"?
Because of Pasteur "god was omitted from disease"?
Because of Halley "god was omitted from comets"?
Does the discovery of every natural process
require "removing god" from it?

Was there a 'natural process' that Darwin discovered
that wasn't already known by Mendel and others? No.

Wrong.

Then tell us, exactly what is this 'natural process'
that Darwin was the very first person to discover?

Read his book.
In the meantime back up your claim that it
is based on Mendels book that didn't exist yet.

I note that you cannot answer my simply question,
above.

Do you want to try again, or would you rather just
concede now? Here it is. .

"Please tell us exactly, what is this 'natural process'
that Darwin was the very first person to discover?"

[Mitchell Holman]

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Post by Mitchell Holman

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Post by Mitchell Holman

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Post by Andrew

From curiosity I searched to find our what College Degree
Charles Darwin earned. What I learned was that he started
out to become a Physician like his father and Grandfather.
However this was not his interest. After dropping out from
medical school, he earned a BA degree in 1831 and a MS
degree in 1836 at Christ college at Cambridge. At some time
in his life he went to Oxford where he eared a degree in
theology.
There seems to be some confusion regarding his AB degree at
Christ College. Some sources say it Was theology.

Interesting. Thanks for posting.

If Darwin's only degree was theology, how is it that he is
revered as a scientist?

Because he helped formulate a worldview where God
was omitted from origins which was more pleasing to
the increasingly godless society.

Because of Darwin "god was omitted from origins"?
Because of Pasteur "god was omitted from disease"?
Because of Halley "god was omitted from comets"?
Does the discovery of every natural process
require "removing god" from it?

Was there a 'natural process' that Darwin discovered
that wasn't already known by Mendel and others? No.

Wrong.

Then tell us, exactly what is this 'natural process'
that Darwin was the very first person to discover?

Read his book.
In the meantime back up your claim that it
is based on Mendels book that didn't exist yet.

I note that you cannot answer my simply question,
above.

Just explain how Darwin's theory of evolution
was based on Mendel's work that hadn't even been
published yet.

Post by Andrew
Do you want to try again, or would you rather just
concede now? Here it is. .
"Please tell us exactly, what is this 'natural process'
that Darwin was the very first person to discover?"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwinism

[Andrew]

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Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Andrew

From curiosity I searched to find our what College Degree
Charles Darwin earned. What I learned was that he started
out to become a Physician like his father and Grandfather.
However this was not his interest. After dropping out from
medical school, he earned a BA degree in 1831 and a MS
degree in 1836 at Christ college at Cambridge. At some time
in his life he went to Oxford where he eared a degree in
theology.
There seems to be some confusion regarding his AB degree at
Christ College. Some sources say it Was theology.

Interesting. Thanks for posting.

If Darwin's only degree was theology, how is it that he is
revered as a scientist?

Because he helped formulate a worldview where God
was omitted from origins which was more pleasing to
the increasingly godless society.

Because of Darwin "god was omitted from origins"?
Because of Pasteur "god was omitted from disease"?
Because of Halley "god was omitted from comets"?
Does the discovery of every natural process
require "removing god" from it?

Was there a 'natural process' that Darwin discovered
that wasn't already known by Mendel and others? No.

Wrong.

Then tell us, exactly what is this 'natural process'
that Darwin was the very first person to discover?

Read his book.
In the meantime back up your claim that it
is based on Mendels book that didn't exist yet.

I note that you cannot answer my simply question,
above.

Just explain how Darwin's theory of evolution
was based on Mendel's work that hadn't even been
published yet.

Not my claim.

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Andrew
Do you want to try again, or would you rather just
concede now? Here it is. .
"Please tell us exactly, what is this 'natural process'
that Darwin was the very first person to discover?"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwinism

That explains his ideas, but it doesn't answer the question.
Therefore I accept this as your concession that there is no
answer to the question.

[W.T.S., vrn-The Lamp of Golden Truth!*]

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Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Andrew

From curiosity I searched to find our what College Degree
Charles Darwin earned. What I learned was that he started
out to become a Physician like his father and
Grandfather. However this was not his interest. After
dropping out from medical school, he earned a BA degree
in 1831 and a MS degree in 1836 at Christ college at
Cambridge. At some time in his life he went to Oxford
where he eared a degree in theology.
There seems to be some confusion regarding his AB degree
at Christ College. Some sources say it Was theology.

Interesting. Thanks for posting.

If Darwin's only degree was theology, how is it that he is
revered as a scientist?

Because he helped formulate a worldview where God
was omitted from origins which was more pleasing to
the increasingly godless society.

Because of Darwin "god was omitted from origins"?
Because of Pasteur "god was omitted from disease"?
Because of Halley "god was omitted from comets"?
Does the discovery of every natural process
require "removing god" from it?

Was there a 'natural process' that Darwin discovered
that wasn't already known by Mendel and others? No.

Wrong.

Then tell us, exactly what is this 'natural process'
that Darwin was the very first person to discover?

Read his book.
In the meantime back up your claim that it
is based on Mendels book that didn't exist yet.

I note that you cannot answer my simply question,
above.

Just explain how Darwin's theory of evolution
was based on Mendel's work that hadn't even been
published yet.

Not my claim.

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Andrew
Do you want to try again, or would you rather just
concede now? Here it is. .
"Please tell us exactly, what is this 'natural process'
that Darwin was the very first person to discover?"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwinism

That explains his ideas, but it doesn't answer the question.
Therefore I accept this as your concession that there is no
answer to the question.

<https://sphericalbullshit.wordpress.com/2013/05/02/what-i-would-say-to-
creationists-if-i-was-more-of-a-dick/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zascach>

< https://edthemanicstreetpreacher.wordpress.com/2010/04/09/dawkins-
berlinski/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zmv3xf2>

<https://www.theguardian.com/science/head-quarters/2014/feb/06/22-
answers-creationism-evolution-bill-nye-ken-ham-debate>

<http://tinyurl.com/hwjf83d>

<http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/dumb-things-creationists-
say/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zq9wt5k>

<http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/20/magazine/unintelligent-design.html?
_r=0>

<http://tinyurl.com/h7ubjta>

<http://www.eoht.info/page/Creationism+scientists+ranked+by+idiocy>

<http://tinyurl.com/h5y2gao>

<https://www.chess.com/groups/forumview/18-creationist-arguments-
debunked>

<http://tinyurl.com/zb7sfyr>

<http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Category:Creationism>

<http://tinyurl.com/zt8dycq>

<https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/jan/28/creation-origin-life-
future-adam-rutherford-review>

<http://tinyurl.com/hsj6u6y>

<http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2016/06/07/what-do-physicists-
think-of-michio-kaku/>

<http://tinyurl.com/j32bskg>

<http://undsci.berkeley.edu/article/howscienceworks_16>

<http://tinyurl.com/3p4e7mx>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Darwin>

<http://tinyurl.com/jyzjfar>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregor_Mendel>

<http://tinyurl.com/pcqylyj>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution>

<http://tinyurl.com/7vw8ozk>

<http://www.famousscientists.org/charles-darwin/>

<http://tinyurl.com/jpr7p5v>

<http://darwin-online.org.uk/biography.html>

<http://tinyurl.com/5p6znj>

"Creation science" has not entered the curriculum for a reason so
simple and so basic that we often forget to mention it: because it is
false, and because good teachers understand exactly why it is false.
What could be more destructive of that most fragile yet most precious
commodity in our entire intellectual heritage -- good teaching -- than
a bill forcing honourable teachers to sully their sacred trust by
granting equal treatment to a doctrine not only known to be false, but
calculated to undermine any general understanding of science as an
enterprise? - Stephen Jay Gould.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Jay_Gould>

<http://tinyurl.com/jc3ckub>

<http://www.journals.elsevier.com/journal-of-human-evolution>

<http://tinyurl.com/jsalxfe>

<http://www.annualreviews.org/journal/ecolsys>

<http://tinyurl.com/z8o6zan>

<http://www.cell.com/trends/ecology-evolution/home>

<http://tinyurl.com/pwg6fak>

http://youtu.be/F1ibEaIPtMk

<http://tinyurl.com/hy7xymb>

<http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Falldidit#Falldidit>

<http://tinyurl.com/z4z77ra>

[Mitchell Holman]

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From curiosity I searched to find our what College Degree
Charles Darwin earned. What I learned was that he started
out to become a Physician like his father and
Grandfather. However this was not his interest. After
dropping out from medical school, he earned a BA degree
in 1831 and a MS degree in 1836 at Christ college at
Cambridge. At some time in his life he went to Oxford
where he eared a degree in theology.
There seems to be some confusion regarding his AB degree
at Christ College. Some sources say it Was theology.

Interesting. Thanks for posting.

If Darwin's only degree was theology, how is it that he is
revered as a scientist?

Because he helped formulate a worldview where God
was omitted from origins which was more pleasing to
the increasingly godless society.

Because of Darwin "god was omitted from origins"?
Because of Pasteur "god was omitted from disease"?
Because of Halley "god was omitted from comets"?
Does the discovery of every natural process
require "removing god" from it?

Was there a 'natural process' that Darwin discovered
that wasn't already known by Mendel and others? No.

Wrong.

Then tell us, exactly what is this 'natural process'
that Darwin was the very first person to discover?

Read his book.
In the meantime back up your claim that it
is based on Mendels book that didn't exist yet.

I note that you cannot answer my simply question,
above.

Just explain how Darwin's theory of evolution
was based on Mendel's work that hadn't even been
published yet.

Not my claim.

Your quote, from above.


"Was there a 'natural process' that Darwin
discovered that wasn't already known by
Mendel and others? No."

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Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Andrew
Do you want to try again, or would you rather just
concede now? Here it is. .
"Please tell us exactly, what is this 'natural process'
that Darwin was the very first person to discover?"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwinism

That explains his ideas, but it doesn't answer the question.

Then look it up yourself.

Start with the websites that WTS posts,
or just ask the regulars at talk.origins.

[Andrew]

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Post by Andrew

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Andrew

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Andrew

From curiosity I searched to find our what College Degree
Charles Darwin earned. What I learned was that he started
out to become a Physician like his father and
Grandfather. However this was not his interest. After
dropping out from medical school, he earned a BA degree
in 1831 and a MS degree in 1836 at Christ college at
Cambridge. At some time in his life he went to Oxford
where he eared a degree in theology.
There seems to be some confusion regarding his AB degree
at Christ College. Some sources say it Was theology.

Interesting. Thanks for posting.

If Darwin's only degree was theology, how is it that he is
revered as a scientist?

Because he helped formulate a worldview where God
was omitted from origins which was more pleasing to
the increasingly godless society.

Because of Darwin "god was omitted from origins"?
Because of Pasteur "god was omitted from disease"?
Because of Halley "god was omitted from comets"?
Does the discovery of every natural process
require "removing god" from it?

Was there a 'natural process' that Darwin discovered
that wasn't already known by Mendel and others? No.

Wrong.

Then tell us, exactly what is this 'natural process'
that Darwin was the very first person to discover?

Read his book.
In the meantime back up your claim that it
is based on Mendels book that didn't exist yet.

I note that you cannot answer my simply question,
above.

Just explain how Darwin's theory of evolution
was based on Mendel's work that hadn't even been
published yet.

Not my claim.

Your quote, from above.
"Was there a 'natural process' that Darwin discovered
that wasn't already known by Mendel and others? No."

That was a question and answer. Not a claim that Darwin
was based on Mendel's work. Also, you never did answer
my question.

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Andrew

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Andrew
Do you want to try again, or would you rather just
concede now? Here it is. .
"Please tell us exactly, what is this 'natural process'
that Darwin was the very first person to discover?"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwinism

That explains his ideas, but it doesn't answer the question.

Then look it up yourself.

I did, and it doesn't exist.

Post by Mitchell Holman
Start with the websites that WTS posts,
or just ask the regulars at talk.origins.

So you can't answer. It is only your belief.

[Syd M.]

Post by Andrew

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Andrew

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Andrew

From curiosity I searched to find our what College Degree
Charles Darwin earned. What I learned was that he started
out to become a Physician like his father and Grandfather.
However this was not his interest. After dropping out from
medical school, he earned a BA degree in 1831 and a MS degree
in 1836 at Christ college at Cambridge. At some time in his
life he went to Oxford where he eared a degree in theology.
There seems to be some confusion regarding his AB degree at
Christ College. Some sources say it Was theology.

Interesting. Thanks for posting.

If Darwin's only degree was theology, how is it that he is
revered as a scientist?

Because he helped formulate a worldview where God
was omitted from origins which was more pleasing to
the increasingly godless society.

Because of Darwin "god was omitted from origins"?
Because of Pasteur "god was omitted from disease"?
Because of Halley "god was omitted from comets"?
Does the discovery of every natural process
require "removing god" from it?

Was there a 'natural process' that Darwin discovered
that wasn't already known by Mendel and others? No.

Wrong.

Then tell us, exactly what is this 'natural process'
that Darwin was the very first person to discover?
Thanks.

Why? So you can ignore it again?

PDW

[Andrew]

Post by Syd M.

Post by Andrew

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Andrew

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Andrew

From curiosity I searched to find our what College Degree
Charles Darwin earned. What I learned was that he started
out to become a Physician like his father and Grandfather.
However this was not his interest. After dropping out from
medical school, he earned a BA degree in 1831 and a MS degree
in 1836 at Christ college at Cambridge. At some time in his
life he went to Oxford where he eared a degree in theology.
There seems to be some confusion regarding his AB degree at
Christ College. Some sources say it Was theology.

Interesting. Thanks for posting.

If Darwin's only degree was theology, how is it that he is
revered as a scientist?

Because he helped formulate a worldview where God
was omitted from origins which was more pleasing to
the increasingly godless society.

Because of Darwin "god was omitted from origins"?
Because of Pasteur "god was omitted from disease"?
Because of Halley "god was omitted from comets"?
Does the discovery of every natural process
require "removing god" from it?

Was there a 'natural process' that Darwin discovered
that wasn't already known by Mendel and others? No.

Wrong.

Then tell us, exactly what is this 'natural process'
that Darwin was the very first person to discover?
Thanks.

Why? So you can ignore it again?

Did Darwin discover some 'natural process'
that was previously unknown? No, so what
~did~ he do?

He helped formulate a worldview where
God was omitted from origins, which was
more pleasing to the increasingly godless
society. But it was basically a 'phantasy'.

[Mitchell Holman]

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Post by Syd M.

Post by Andrew

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Andrew

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Andrew

From curiosity I searched to find our what College Degree
Charles Darwin earned. What I learned was that he started
out to become a Physician like his father and Grandfather.
However this was not his interest. After dropping out from
medical school, he earned a BA degree in 1831 and a MS
degree in 1836 at Christ college at Cambridge. At some
time in his life he went to Oxford where he eared a
degree in theology.
There seems to be some confusion regarding his AB degree
at Christ College. Some sources say it Was theology.

Interesting. Thanks for posting.

If Darwin's only degree was theology, how is it that he is
revered as a scientist?

Because he helped formulate a worldview where God
was omitted from origins which was more pleasing to
the increasingly godless society.

Because of Darwin "god was omitted from origins"?
Because of Pasteur "god was omitted from disease"?
Because of Halley "god was omitted from comets"?
Does the discovery of every natural process
require "removing god" from it?

Was there a 'natural process' that Darwin discovered
that wasn't already known by Mendel and others? No.

Wrong.

Then tell us, exactly what is this 'natural process'
that Darwin was the very first person to discover?
Thanks.

Why? So you can ignore it again?

Did Darwin discover some 'natural process'
that was previously unknown? No, so what
~did~ he do?
He helped formulate a worldview where
God was omitted from origins,

Did Pasteur "formulate a worldview"
where god was omitted from disease?

[Kevrob]

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Andrew

Post by Syd M.

Post by Andrew

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Andrew

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Andrew

From curiosity I searched to find our what College Degree
Charles Darwin earned. What I learned was that he started
out to become a Physician like his father and Grandfather.
However this was not his interest. After dropping out from
medical school, he earned a BA degree in 1831 and a MS
degree in 1836 at Christ college at Cambridge. At some
time in his life he went to Oxford where he eared a
degree in theology.
There seems to be some confusion regarding his AB degree
at Christ College. Some sources say it Was theology.

Interesting. Thanks for posting.

If Darwin's only degree was theology, how is it that he is
revered as a scientist?

Because he helped formulate a worldview where God
was omitted from origins which was more pleasing to
the increasingly godless society.

Because of Darwin "god was omitted from origins"?
Because of Pasteur "god was omitted from disease"?
Because of Halley "god was omitted from comets"?
Does the discovery of every natural process
require "removing god" from it?

Was there a 'natural process' that Darwin discovered
that wasn't already known by Mendel and others? No.

Wrong.

Then tell us, exactly what is this 'natural process'
that Darwin was the very first person to discover?
Thanks.

Why? So you can ignore it again?

Did Darwin discover some 'natural process'
that was previously unknown? No, so what
~did~ he do?
He helped formulate a worldview where
God was omitted from origins,

Did Pasteur "formulate a worldview"
where god was omitted from disease?

Before the germ theory, a "miasma theory" held sway.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miasma_theory

In neither theory is intervention by a deity required to
explain the spread of diseases.

Uneducated, ghod-obsessed people might believe plagues were
punishments inflicted by some ghod.

Kevin R

[Jeanne Douglas]

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Post by Andrew

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Andrew

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Andrew

From curiosity I searched to find our what College Degree
Charles Darwin earned. What I learned was that he started
out to become a Physician like his father and Grandfather.
However this was not his interest. After dropping out from
medical school, he earned a BA degree in 1831 and a MS
degree in 1836 at Christ college at Cambridge. At some
time in his life he went to Oxford where he eared a
degree in theology.
There seems to be some confusion regarding his AB degree
at Christ College. Some sources say it Was theology.

Interesting. Thanks for posting.

If Darwin's only degree was theology, how is it that he is
revered as a scientist?

Because he helped formulate a worldview where God
was omitted from origins which was more pleasing to
the increasingly godless society.

Because of Darwin "god was omitted from origins"?
Because of Pasteur "god was omitted from disease"?
Because of Halley "god was omitted from comets"?
Does the discovery of every natural process
require "removing god" from it?

Was there a 'natural process' that Darwin discovered
that wasn't already known by Mendel and others? No.

Wrong.

Then tell us, exactly what is this 'natural process'
that Darwin was the very first person to discover?
Thanks.

Why? So you can ignore it again?

Did Darwin discover some 'natural process'
that was previously unknown? No, so what
~did~ he do?
He helped formulate a worldview where
God was omitted from origins,

Did Pasteur "formulate a worldview"
where god was omitted from disease?

Before the germ theory, a "miasma theory" held sway.

Hence, the name of malaria.

Post by Kevrob
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miasma_theory
In neither theory is intervention by a deity required to
explain the spread of diseases.
Uneducated, ghod-obsessed people might believe plagues were
punishments inflicted by some ghod.

[Malcolm McMahon]

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Post by Syd M.

Post by Andrew

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Andrew

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Andrew

From curiosity I searched to find our what College Degree
Charles Darwin earned. What I learned was that he started
out to become a Physician like his father and Grandfather.
However this was not his interest. After dropping out from
medical school, he earned a BA degree in 1831 and a MS degree
in 1836 at Christ college at Cambridge. At some time in his
life he went to Oxford where he eared a degree in theology.
There seems to be some confusion regarding his AB degree at
Christ College. Some sources say it Was theology.

Interesting. Thanks for posting.

If Darwin's only degree was theology, how is it that he is
revered as a scientist?

Because he helped formulate a worldview where God
was omitted from origins which was more pleasing to
the increasingly godless society.

Because of Darwin "god was omitted from origins"?
Because of Pasteur "god was omitted from disease"?
Because of Halley "god was omitted from comets"?
Does the discovery of every natural process
require "removing god" from it?

Was there a 'natural process' that Darwin discovered
that wasn't already known by Mendel and others? No.

Wrong.

Then tell us, exactly what is this 'natural process'
that Darwin was the very first person to discover?
Thanks.

Why? So you can ignore it again?

Did Darwin discover some 'natural process'
that was previously unknown? No, so what
~did~ he do?

He saw how Natural Selection could shape species.

Post by Andrew
He helped formulate a worldview where
God was omitted from origins, which was
more pleasing to the increasingly godless
society. But it was basically a 'phantasy'.

In Darwin's time it was hardly an "increasingly godless" society. (Though fans of religion have always, and I mean always, believed they were living in such a society). There were bold "free thinkers" about, but Darwin certainly wasn't one of them, and there were no more of them than in previous centuries.

[Andrew]

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Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Andrew

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Andrew

From curiosity I searched to find our what College Degree
Charles Darwin earned. What I learned was that he started
out to become a Physician like his father and Grandfather.
However this was not his interest. After dropping out from
medical school, he earned a BA degree in 1831 and a MS degree
in 1836 at Christ college at Cambridge. At some time in his
life he went to Oxford where he eared a degree in theology.
There seems to be some confusion regarding his AB degree at
Christ College. Some sources say it Was theology.

Interesting. Thanks for posting.

If Darwin's only degree was theology, how is it that he is
revered as a scientist?

Because he helped formulate a worldview where God
was omitted from origins which was more pleasing to
the increasingly godless society.

Because of Darwin "god was omitted from origins"?
Because of Pasteur "god was omitted from disease"?
Because of Halley "god was omitted from comets"?
Does the discovery of every natural process
require "removing god" from it?

Was there a 'natural process' that Darwin discovered
that wasn't already known by Mendel and others? No.

Wrong.

Then tell us, exactly what is this 'natural process'
that Darwin was the very first person to discover?
Thanks.

Why? So you can ignore it again?

Did Darwin discover some 'natural process'
that was previously unknown? No, so what
~did~ he do?

He saw how Natural Selection could shape species.

No, humans already knew that ~long before~ Darwin.

"Humans have used selective breeding long before Darwin's Postulates
and the discovery of genetics. Farmers chose cattle with beneficial traits
such as larger size or producing more milk, and made them breed; and
although they may have known nothing about genes, they knew that the
beneficial traits could be heritable." http://alturl.com/hstc9

[W.T.S., vrn-The Lamp of Golden Truth!*]

"Andrew86" <***@Lying.Bozo> Farted out in news:

<https://sphericalbullshit.wordpress.com/2013/05/02/what-i-would-say-to-
creationists-if-i-was-more-of-a-dick/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zascach>

< https://edthemanicstreetpreacher.wordpress.com/2010/04/09/dawkins-
berlinski/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zmv3xf2>

<https://www.theguardian.com/science/head-quarters/2014/feb/06/22-
answers-creationism-evolution-bill-nye-ken-ham-debate>

<http://tinyurl.com/hwjf83d>

<http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/dumb-things-creationists-
say/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zq9wt5k>

<http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/20/magazine/unintelligent-design.html?
_r=0>

<http://tinyurl.com/h7ubjta>

<http://www.eoht.info/page/Creationism+scientists+ranked+by+idiocy>

<http://tinyurl.com/h5y2gao>

<https://www.chess.com/groups/forumview/18-creationist-arguments-
debunked>

<http://tinyurl.com/zb7sfyr>

<http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Category:Creationism>

<http://tinyurl.com/zt8dycq>

<https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/jan/28/creation-origin-life-
future-adam-rutherford-review>

<http://tinyurl.com/hsj6u6y>

<http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2016/06/07/what-do-physicists-
think-of-michio-kaku/>

<http://tinyurl.com/j32bskg>

<http://undsci.berkeley.edu/article/howscienceworks_16>

<http://tinyurl.com/3p4e7mx>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Darwin>

<http://tinyurl.com/jyzjfar>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregor_Mendel>

<http://tinyurl.com/pcqylyj>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution>

<http://tinyurl.com/7vw8ozk>

<http://www.famousscientists.org/charles-darwin/>

<http://tinyurl.com/jpr7p5v>

<http://darwin-online.org.uk/biography.html>

<http://tinyurl.com/5p6znj>

"Creation science" has not entered the curriculum for a reason so
simple and so basic that we often forget to mention it: because it is
false, and because good teachers understand exactly why it is false.
What could be more destructive of that most fragile yet most precious
commodity in our entire intellectual heritage -- good teaching -- than
a bill forcing honourable teachers to sully their sacred trust by
granting equal treatment to a doctrine not only known to be false, but
calculated to undermine any general understanding of science as an
enterprise? - Stephen Jay Gould.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Jay_Gould>

<http://tinyurl.com/jc3ckub>

<http://www.journals.elsevier.com/journal-of-human-evolution>

<http://tinyurl.com/jsalxfe>

<http://www.annualreviews.org/journal/ecolsys>

<http://tinyurl.com/z8o6zan>

<http://www.cell.com/trends/ecology-evolution/home>

<http://tinyurl.com/pwg6fak>

http://youtu.be/F1ibEaIPtMk

<http://tinyurl.com/hy7xymb>

<http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Falldidit#Falldidit>

<http://tinyurl.com/z4z77ra>

[Davej]

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Post by Malcolm McMahon

Post by Andrew

Post by Syd M.
Why? So you can ignore it again?

Did Darwin discover some 'natural process'
that was previously unknown? No, so what
~did~ he do?

He saw how Natural Selection could shape species.

No, humans already knew that ~long before~ Darwin.

Who knew it? How did they "know" it? Opinions are
worthless in science. Darwin provided lines of
supporting evidence and a clear statement of the
working mechanism.

[Malcolm McMahon]

Post by Andrew
"Humans have used selective breeding long before Darwin's Postulates
and the discovery of genetics. Farmers chose cattle with beneficial traits
such as larger size or producing more milk, and made them breed; and
although they may have known nothing about genes, they knew that the
beneficial traits could be heritable." http://alturl.com/hstc9

Of course they knew that. What Darwin saw was that the selection process also operated in nature. He realised that "selective breeding" didn't need a breeder.

[Syd M.]

Post by Andrew

Post by Syd M.

Post by Andrew

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Andrew

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Andrew

From curiosity I searched to find our what College Degree
Charles Darwin earned. What I learned was that he started
out to become a Physician like his father and Grandfather.
However this was not his interest. After dropping out from
medical school, he earned a BA degree in 1831 and a MS degree
in 1836 at Christ college at Cambridge. At some time in his
life he went to Oxford where he eared a degree in theology.
There seems to be some confusion regarding his AB degree at
Christ College. Some sources say it Was theology.

Interesting. Thanks for posting.

If Darwin's only degree was theology, how is it that he is
revered as a scientist?

Because he helped formulate a worldview where God
was omitted from origins which was more pleasing to
the increasingly godless society.

Because of Darwin "god was omitted from origins"?
Because of Pasteur "god was omitted from disease"?
Because of Halley "god was omitted from comets"?
Does the discovery of every natural process
require "removing god" from it?

Was there a 'natural process' that Darwin discovered
that wasn't already known by Mendel and others? No.

Wrong.

Then tell us, exactly what is this 'natural process'
that Darwin was the very first person to discover?
Thanks.

Why? So you can ignore it again?

Did Darwin discover some 'natural process'
that was previously unknown? No, so what
~did~ he do?
He helped formulate a worldview where
God was omitted from origins, which was
more pleasing to the increasingly godless
society. But it was basically a 'phantasy'.

The only 'phantasy' is yours, Androol.
Evolution is a scientific fact, creastionism is religion.
'Nuff said.

PDW

[Jørgen Farum Jensen]

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Andrew

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Andrew

From curiosity I searched to find our what College Degree
Charles Darwin earned. What I learned was that he started
out to become a Physician like his father and Grandfather.
However this was not his interest. After dropping out from
medical school, he earned a BA degree in 1831 and a MS degree
in 1836 at Christ college at Cambridge. At some time in his
life he went to Oxford where he eared a degree in theology.
There seems to be some confusion regarding his AB degree at
Christ College. Some sources say it Was theology.

Interesting. Thanks for posting.

If Darwin's only degree was theology, how is it that he is
revered as a scientist?

Because he helped formulate a worldview where God
was omitted from origins which was more pleasing to
the increasingly godless society.

Because of Darwin "god was omitted from origins"?
Because of Pasteur "god was omitted from disease"?
Because of Halley "god was omitted from comets"?
Does the discovery of every natural process
require "removing god" from it?

Was there a 'natural process' that Darwin discovered
that wasn't already known by Mendel and others? No.

Wrong.
Darwin published his first book on evolution
in 1856. Mendel didn't publish anything until 9
years later, in 1865.
Are you saying Darwin went forward in time,
grabbed Mendel's book, and went back in time to
copy them?

Darwin was aware of Mendels experiments.
The interesting thing is, that if Andrew
don't accept Darwin as a scientist, why
does he accept Mendel as a scientist?

Because Mendel was a Monk, perhaps?

[Andrew]

Post by Jørgen Farum Jensen
Darwin was aware of Mendels experiments.
The interesting thing is, that if Andrew
don't accept Darwin as a scientist, why
does he accept Mendel as a scientist?

Mendel was involved in empirical, observable
science. Whereas Darwin was involved in a
lot of fantasizing. There is a big difference.

Post by Jørgen Farum Jensen
Because Mendel was a Monk, perhaps?

No.

[W.T.S., vrn-The Lamp of Golden Truth!*]

Post by Andrew

Post by Jørgen Farum Jensen
Darwin was aware of Mendels experiments.
The interesting thing is, that if Andrew
don't accept Darwin as a scientist, why
does he accept Mendel as a scientist?

Mendel was involved in empirical, observable
science. Whereas Darwin was involved in a
lot of fantasizing. There is a big difference.

You know nothing about Darwin. Every bit of Darwin's work is based on
observed, recorded, cataloged fact.

Post by Andrew

Post by Jørgen Farum Jensen
Because Mendel was a Monk, perhaps?

No.

<https://sphericalbullshit.wordpress.com/2013/05/02/what-i-would-say-to-
creationists-if-i-was-more-of-a-dick/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zascach>

< https://edthemanicstreetpreacher.wordpress.com/2010/04/09/dawkins-be
rlinski/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zmv3xf2>

<https://www.theguardian.com/science/head-quarters/2014/feb/06/22-answe
rs-creationism-evolution-bill-nye-ken-ham-debate>

<http://tinyurl.com/hwjf83d>

<http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/dumb-things-creationists-
say/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zq9wt5k>

<http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/20/magazine/unintelligent-design.html?_
r=0>

<http://tinyurl.com/h7ubjta>

<http://www.eoht.info/page/Creationism+scientists+ranked+by+idiocy>

<http://tinyurl.com/h5y2gao>

<https://www.chess.com/groups/forumview/18-creationist-arguments-debun
ked>

<http://tinyurl.com/zb7sfyr>

<http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Category:Creationism>

<http://tinyurl.com/zt8dycq>

<https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/jan/28/creation-origin-life-fu
ture-adam-rutherford-review>

<http://tinyurl.com/hsj6u6y>

<http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2016/06/07/what-do-physicists-t
hink-of-michio-kaku/>

<http://tinyurl.com/j32bskg>

<http://undsci.berkeley.edu/article/howscienceworks_16>

<http://tinyurl.com/3p4e7mx>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Darwin>

<http://tinyurl.com/jyzjfar>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregor_Mendel>

<http://tinyurl.com/pcqylyj>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution>

<http://tinyurl.com/7vw8ozk>

<http://www.famousscientists.org/charles-darwin/>

<http://tinyurl.com/jpr7p5v>

<http://darwin-online.org.uk/biography.html>

<http://tinyurl.com/5p6znj>

"Creation science" has not entered the curriculum for a reason so
simple and so basic that we often forget to mention it: because it is
false, and because good teachers understand exactly why it is false.
What could be more destructive of that most fragile yet most precious
commodity in our entire intellectual heritage -- good teaching -- than
a bill forcing honourable teachers to sully their sacred trust by
granting equal treatment to a doctrine not only known to be false, but
calculated to undermine any general understanding of science as an
enterprise? - Stephen Jay Gould.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Jay_Gould>

<http://tinyurl.com/jc3ckub>

<http://www.journals.elsevier.com/journal-of-human-evolution>

<http://tinyurl.com/jsalxfe>

<http://www.annualreviews.org/journal/ecolsys>

<http://tinyurl.com/z8o6zan>

<http://www.cell.com/trends/ecology-evolution/home>

<http://tinyurl.com/pwg6fak>

http://youtu.be/F1ibEaIPtMk

<http://tinyurl.com/hy7xymb>

<http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Falldidit#Falldidit>

<http://tinyurl.com/z4z77ra>

[W.T.S., vrn-The Lamp of Golden Truth!*]

Post by Andrew

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Andrew

From curiosity I searched to find our what College Degree
Charles Darwin earned. What I learned was that he started
out to become a Physician like his father and Grandfather.
However this was not his interest. After dropping out from
medical school, he earned a BA degree in 1831 and a MS degree
in 1836 at Christ college at Cambridge. At some time in his
life he went to Oxford where he eared a degree in theology.
There seems to be some confusion regarding his AB degree at
Christ College. Some sources say it Was theology.

Interesting. Thanks for posting.

If Darwin's only degree was theology, how is it that he is
revered as a scientist?

Because he helped formulate a worldview where God
was omitted from origins which was more pleasing to
the increasingly godless society.

Because of Darwin "god was omitted from origins"?
Because of Pasteur "god was omitted from disease"?
Because of Halley "god was omitted from comets"?
Does the discovery of every natural process
require "removing god" from it?

Was there a 'natural process' that Darwin discovered
that wasn't already known by Mendel and others? No.
The "goo to you" story is not a 'natural process'.
Rather it is only a phantasy.

Educate yourself:

<https://sphericalbullshit.wordpress.com/2013/05/02/what-i-would-say-to-
creationists-if-i-was-more-of-a-dick/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zascach>

< https://edthemanicstreetpreacher.wordpress.com/2010/04/09/dawkins-
berlinski/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zmv3xf2>

<https://www.theguardian.com/science/head-quarters/2014/feb/06/22-
answers-creationism-evolution-bill-nye-ken-ham-debate>

<http://tinyurl.com/hwjf83d>

<http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/dumb-things-creationists-
say/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zq9wt5k>

<http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/20/magazine/unintelligent-design.html?_r=
0>

<http://tinyurl.com/h7ubjta>

<http://www.eoht.info/page/Creationism+scientists+ranked+by+idiocy>

<http://tinyurl.com/h5y2gao>

<https://www.chess.com/groups/forumview/18-creationist-arguments-
debunked>

<http://tinyurl.com/zb7sfyr>

<http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Category:Creationism>

<http://tinyurl.com/zt8dycq>

<https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/jan/28/creation-origin-life-
future-adam-rutherford-review>

<http://tinyurl.com/hsj6u6y>

<http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2016/06/07/what-do-physicists-
think-of-michio-kaku/>

<http://tinyurl.com/j32bskg>

<http://undsci.berkeley.edu/article/howscienceworks_16>

<http://tinyurl.com/3p4e7mx>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Darwin>

<http://tinyurl.com/jyzjfar>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregor_Mendel>

<http://tinyurl.com/pcqylyj>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution>

<http://tinyurl.com/7vw8ozk>

<http://www.famousscientists.org/charles-darwin/>

<http://tinyurl.com/jpr7p5v>

<http://darwin-online.org.uk/biography.html>

<http://tinyurl.com/5p6znj>

"Creation science" has not entered the curriculum for a reason so
simple and so basic that we often forget to mention it: because it is
false, and because good teachers understand exactly why it is false.
What could be more destructive of that most fragile yet most precious
commodity in our entire intellectual heritage -- good teaching -- than
a bill forcing honourable teachers to sully their sacred trust by
granting equal treatment to a doctrine not only known to be false, but
calculated to undermine any general understanding of science as an
enterprise? - Stephen Jay Gould.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Jay_Gould>

<http://tinyurl.com/jc3ckub>

<http://www.journals.elsevier.com/journal-of-human-evolution>

<http://tinyurl.com/jsalxfe>

<http://www.annualreviews.org/journal/ecolsys>

<http://tinyurl.com/z8o6zan>

<http://www.cell.com/trends/ecology-evolution/home>

<http://tinyurl.com/pwg6fak>

http://youtu.be/F1ibEaIPtMk

<http://tinyurl.com/hy7xymb>

<http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Falldidit#Falldidit>

<http://tinyurl.com/z4z77ra>

[Malcolm McMahon]

Post by Andrew

From curiosity I searched to find our what College Degree
Charles Darwin earned. What I learned was that he started
out to become a Physician like his father and Grandfather.
However this was not his interest. After dropping out from
medical school, he earned a BA degree in 1831 and a MS degree in
1836 at Christ college at Cambridge. At some time in his life he went
to Oxford where he eared a degree in theology.
There seems to be some confusion regarding his AB degree at Christ
College. Some sources say it Was theology.

Interesting. Thanks for posting.

If Darwin's only degree was theology, how is it that he is
revered as a scientist?

Because he helped formulate a worldview where God
was omitted from origins which was more pleasing to
the increasingly godless society.

If asking stupid questions is a sign of your IQ...

Why did you?

One does not need a degree to be a scientist.

Anyone can be a pseudo-scientist.

The idea that one couldn't be a scientist without advanced degrees is a very
recent piece of nonsense. Being regarded as a scientist is something earned by
publishing scientific ideas which withstand the test of doubt.

It's well known that Darwin held off publication because he saw the shitstorm
from the God Squad coming. Only when he saw that Wallace was about to beat him
too it did he finally let the primate out of the bag.

[W.T.S., vr666n-The Lamp of Golden Truth!*]

Post by Andrew

From curiosity I searched to find our what College Degree
Charles Darwin earned. What I learned was that he started
out to become a Physician like his father and Grandfather.
However this was not his interest. After dropping out from
medical school, he earned a BA degree in 1831 and a MS degree in
1836 at Christ college at Cambridge. At some time in his life he
went to Oxford where he eared a degree in theology.
There seems to be some confusion regarding his AB degree at
Christ College. Some sources say it Was theology.

Interesting. Thanks for posting.

If Darwin's only degree was theology, how is it that he is
revered as a scientist?

Because he helped formulate a worldview where God
was omitted from origins which was more pleasing to
the increasingly godless society.

If asking stupid questions is a sign of your IQ...

Why did you?

One does not need a degree to be a scientist.

Anyone can be a pseudo-scientist.

Darwin was one of the greatest scientist of all time:

<https://sphericalbullshit.wordpress.com/2013/05/02/what-i-would-say-to-
creationists-if-i-was-more-of-a-dick/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zascach>

< https://edthemanicstreetpreacher.wordpress.com/2010/04/09/dawkins-
berlinski/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zmv3xf2>

<https://www.theguardian.com/science/head-quarters/2014/feb/06/22-
answers-creationism-evolution-bill-nye-ken-ham-debate>

<http://tinyurl.com/hwjf83d>

<http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/dumb-things-creationists-
say/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zq9wt5k>

<http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/20/magazine/unintelligent-design.html?_r=
0>

<http://tinyurl.com/h7ubjta>

<http://www.eoht.info/page/Creationism+scientists+ranked+by+idiocy>

<http://tinyurl.com/h5y2gao>

<https://www.chess.com/groups/forumview/18-creationist-arguments-
debunked>

<http://tinyurl.com/zb7sfyr>

<http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Category:Creationism>

<http://tinyurl.com/zt8dycq>

<https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/jan/28/creation-origin-life-
future-adam-rutherford-review>

<http://tinyurl.com/hsj6u6y>

<http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2016/06/07/what-do-physicists-
think-of-michio-kaku/>

<http://tinyurl.com/j32bskg>

<http://undsci.berkeley.edu/article/howscienceworks_16>

<http://tinyurl.com/3p4e7mx>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Darwin>

<http://tinyurl.com/jyzjfar>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregor_Mendel>

<http://tinyurl.com/pcqylyj>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution>

<http://tinyurl.com/7vw8ozk>

<http://www.famousscientists.org/charles-darwin/>

<http://tinyurl.com/jpr7p5v>

<http://darwin-online.org.uk/biography.html>

<http://tinyurl.com/5p6znj>

"Creation science" has not entered the curriculum for a reason so
simple and so basic that we often forget to mention it: because it is
false, and because good teachers understand exactly why it is false.
What could be more destructive of that most fragile yet most precious
commodity in our entire intellectual heritage -- good teaching -- than
a bill forcing honourable teachers to sully their sacred trust by
granting equal treatment to a doctrine not only known to be false, but
calculated to undermine any general understanding of science as an
enterprise? - Stephen Jay Gould.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Jay_Gould>

<http://tinyurl.com/jc3ckub>

<http://www.journals.elsevier.com/journal-of-human-evolution>

<http://tinyurl.com/jsalxfe>

<http://www.annualreviews.org/journal/ecolsys>

<http://tinyurl.com/z8o6zan>

<http://www.cell.com/trends/ecology-evolution/home>

<http://tinyurl.com/pwg6fak>

<http://tinyurl.com/hy7xymb>

<http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Falldidit#Falldidit>

<http://tinyurl.com/z4z77ra>

[Christopher A. Lee]

On Mon, 03 Oct 2016 08:50:02 -0500, "W.T.S., vr666n-The Lamp of Golden

Post by Andrew

From curiosity I searched to find our what College Degree
Charles Darwin earned. What I learned was that he started
out to become a Physician like his father and Grandfather.
However this was not his interest. After dropping out from
medical school, he earned a BA degree in 1831 and a MS degree in
1836 at Christ college at Cambridge. At some time in his life he
went to Oxford where he eared a degree in theology.
There seems to be some confusion regarding his AB degree at
Christ College. Some sources say it Was theology.

Interesting. Thanks for posting.

If Darwin's only degree was theology, how is it that he is
revered as a scientist?

What a fucking moron.

Because he was one of the greatest scientists of all time. on a par
with Newton and Einstein.

Duh.

Plenty of scientists are theist, like Ken Miller who demolished
irreducible complexity at the Dover ID trial.

But like other scientists who are theist, he doesn't let his beliefs
interfere with or influence his science.

Post by Andrew
Because he helped formulate a worldview where God
was omitted from origins which was more pleasing to
the increasingly godless society.

What a fucking moron. A liar as well as an idiot.

He started off as a non-fundamentalist Christian, who accepted the
then current scientific explanations (which weren't particularly
scientific in many cases, certainly not for evolution which had been
known for many decades).

He studied for the ministry because he thought the job of a country
parson would give him the time to pursue his real interests in nature
and geology.

But instead, he went on his voyage of discovery, and what he found led
to his losing his faith.

Natural selection was a "Eureka" moment - obvious in retrospect but
somebody had to be the first to realise it.

But one result was to set him down the road to agnosticism because he
couldn't reconcile the eat-or-be-eaten struggle for survival, with the
loving god he had previously believed directed evolution using
Lamarckian heredity.

He didn't publish his rigorously researched theory of evolution until
many years later, because he didn't want to upset the religious,

Post by Andrew

If asking stupid questions is a sign of your IQ...

Why did you?

Where did Harry do that,pathological liar?

Post by Andrew

One does not need a degree to be a scientist.

Anyone can be a pseudo-scientist.

Yep.

These morons have no idea what science is, how its practiced or the
scientific method.

Darwin's other great contribution to science was to the scientific
method itself - the validation or refutation of prediction to extend
knowledge.

The stupids don't seem to understand this, and lie about this being
guesses, faith, etc.

[Wexford Eire]

Post by Andrew

From curiosity I searched to find our what College Degree
Charles Darwin earned. What I learned was that he started
out to become a Physician like his father and Grandfather.
However this was not his interest. After dropping out from
medical school, he earned a BA degree in 1831 and a MS degree in
1836 at Christ college at Cambridge. At some time in his life he went
to Oxford where he eared a degree in theology.
There seems to be some confusion regarding his AB degree at Christ
College. Some sources say it Was theology.

Interesting. Thanks for posting.

If Darwin's only degree was theology, how is it that he is
revered as a scientist?

Because he helped formulate a worldview where God
was omitted from origins which was more pleasing to
the increasingly godless society.

If asking stupid questions is a sign of your IQ...

Why did you?

One does not need a degree to be a scientist.

Anyone can be a pseudo-scientist.

The degree was in theology, but a large part of his study involved "natural philosophy," studying flora and fauna. In fact, the pursuit of natural philosophy -- for budding theologians -- was thought to expand man's knowledge of the wondrous works of God. In any even he learned a great deal about descriptive biology, the right ways of collecting and preserving specimens, even geology.

After the publication of his "Voyage" book he was awarded a Master's Degree from Cambridge.

What's your degree in? Have one or did you flunk out?

[Andrew]

Post by Wexford Eire

Post by Andrew

From curiosity I searched to find our what College Degree
Charles Darwin earned. What I learned was that he started
out to become a Physician like his father and Grandfather.
However this was not his interest. After dropping out from
medical school, he earned a BA degree in 1831 and a MS degree in
1836 at Christ college at Cambridge. At some time in his life he went
to Oxford where he eared a degree in theology.
There seems to be some confusion regarding his AB degree at Christ
College. Some sources say it Was theology.

Interesting. Thanks for posting.

If Darwin's only degree was theology, how is it that he is
revered as a scientist?

Because he helped formulate a worldview where God
was omitted from origins which was more pleasing to
the increasingly godless society.

If asking stupid questions is a sign of your IQ...

Why did you?

One does not need a degree to be a scientist.

Anyone can be a pseudo-scientist.

The degree was in theology, but a large part of his study involved
"natural philosophy," studying flora and fauna. In fact, the pursuit
of natural philosophy -- for budding theologians -- was thought to
expand man's knowledge of the wondrous works of God.

We agree. It certainly would.

Post by Wexford Eire
In any even he learned a great deal about descriptive biology, the right ways of collecting and preserving specimens, even
geology.
After the publication of his "Voyage" book he was awarded a Master's Degree from Cambridge.
What's your degree in? Have one or did you flunk out?

[Jeanne Douglas]

Post by Wexford Eire

Post by Andrew

From curiosity I searched to find our what College Degree
Charles Darwin earned. What I learned was that he started
out to become a Physician like his father and Grandfather.
However this was not his interest. After dropping out from
medical school, he earned a BA degree in 1831 and a MS degree in
1836 at Christ college at Cambridge. At some time in his life he went
to Oxford where he eared a degree in theology.
There seems to be some confusion regarding his AB degree at Christ
College. Some sources say it Was theology.

Interesting. Thanks for posting.

If Darwin's only degree was theology, how is it that he is
revered as a scientist?

Because he helped formulate a worldview where God
was omitted from origins which was more pleasing to
the increasingly godless society.

If asking stupid questions is a sign of your IQ...

Why did you?

One does not need a degree to be a scientist.

Anyone can be a pseudo-scientist.

The degree was in theology, but a large part of his study involved "natural
philosophy," studying flora and fauna. In fact, the pursuit of natural
philosophy -- for budding theologians -- was thought to expand man's
knowledge of the wondrous works of God. In any even he learned a great deal
about descriptive biology, the right ways of collecting and preserving
specimens, even geology.
After the publication of his "Voyage" book he was awarded a Master's Degree from Cambridge.
What's your degree in? Have one or did you flunk out?

Or never got admitted?

[Davej]

Post by Andrew
[...]
Because he helped formulate a worldview where God
was omitted from origins which was more pleasing to
the increasingly godless society.

Does every natural process exclude your pathetic god?

[Christopher A. Lee]

Post by Davej

Post by Andrew
[...]
Because he helped formulate a worldview where God
was omitted from origins which was more pleasing to
the increasingly godless society.

Does every natural process exclude your pathetic god?

As usual, dishonest, nasty theist invents motives that aren't there,
for scientists finding out how things happen.

If there _is_ a god, then it did it that way.

[Andrew]

Post by Davej

Post by Andrew
[...]
Because he helped formulate a worldview where God
was omitted from origins which was more pleasing to
the increasingly godless society.

Does every natural process exclude your pathetic god?

A worldview is not a 'natural process'? Also a phantasy
is not a 'natural process'. And there is no "pathetic god".

[W.T.S., vrn-The Lamp of Golden Truth!*]

Post by Andrew

Post by Davej

Post by Andrew
[...]
Because he helped formulate a worldview where God
was omitted from origins which was more pleasing to
the increasingly godless society.

Does every natural process exclude your pathetic god?

A worldview is not a 'natural process'? Also a phantasy
is not a 'natural process'. And there is no "pathetic god".

Are you sure:

http://youtu.be/F1ibEaIPtMk

<http://tinyurl.com/hy7xymb>

<http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Falldidit#Falldidit>

<http://tinyurl.com/z4z77ra>

[John Locke]

Post by Andrew

Post by Davej

Post by Andrew
[...]
Because he helped formulate a worldview where God
was omitted from origins which was more pleasing to
the increasingly godless society.

Does every natural process exclude your pathetic god?

A worldview is not a 'natural process'? Also a phantasy
is not a 'natural process'. And there is no "pathetic god".

...pathetic imaginary god....is that better ?

[Andrew]

Post by John Locke

Post by Andrew

Post by Davej

Post by Andrew
[...]
Because he helped formulate a worldview where God
was omitted from origins which was more pleasing to
the increasingly godless society.

Does every natural process exclude your pathetic god?

A worldview is not a 'natural process'? Also a phantasy
is not a 'natural process'. And there is no "pathetic god".

...pathetic imaginary god....is that better ?

The fact that you say 'god' rather than 'God'
is evidence that you know there is GOD but
not god.

Which is revealed in your post here, and else
where. Yes, you cannot hide from the truth.

[W.T.S., vrn-The Lamp of Golden Truth!*]

Post by Andrew

Post by John Locke

Post by Andrew

Post by Davej

Post by Andrew
Because he helped formulate a worldview where God
was omitted from origins which was more pleasing to
the increasingly godless society.

Does every natural process exclude your pathetic god?

A worldview is not a 'natural process'? Also a phantasy
is not a 'natural process'. And there is no "pathetic god".

...pathetic imaginary god....is that better ?

The fact that you say 'god' rather than 'God'
is evidence that you know there is GOD but
not god.
Which is revealed in your post here, and else
where. Yes, you cannot hide from the truth.

Here's the truth, enjoy:

http://youtu.be/F1ibEaIPtMk

<http://tinyurl.com/hy7xymb>

[Kevrob]

Post by Andrew

Post by John Locke

Post by Andrew

Post by Davej

Post by Andrew
[...]
Because he helped formulate a worldview where God
was omitted from origins which was more pleasing to
the increasingly godless society.

Does every natural process exclude your pathetic god?

A worldview is not a 'natural process'? Also a phantasy
is not a 'natural process'. And there is no "pathetic god".

...pathetic imaginary god....is that better ?

The fact that you say 'god' rather than 'God'
is evidence that you know there is GOD but
not god.

No, it is an attempt, however futile, to treat Yahooey the same
as we would treat Thor or Hermes or the Dagda: as a mythical
figure, which, like a character in a book of fiction, can have
a proper name, but isn't real. Capitalaizing "god" anywhere but
at the beginning of a sentence is following a tradition that
goes back to the ancient Hebrews: one doesn't use YHWH lightly,
but refers obliquely to the deity, calling it "the Lord" or
some other obfuscation.

It's superstitious nonsense, and I and others just won't play.

Post by Andrew
Which is revealed in your post here, and else
where. Yes, you cannot hide from the truth.

We can review the fiction: not credible.

Kevin R

[Cloud Hobbit]

Post by Andrew

Post by John Locke

Post by Andrew

Post by Davej

Post by Andrew
[...]
Because he helped formulate a worldview where God
was omitted from origins which was more pleasing to
the increasingly godless society.

Does every natural process exclude your pathetic god?

A worldview is not a 'natural process'? Also a phantasy
is not a 'natural process'. And there is no "pathetic god".

...pathetic imaginary god....is that better ?

The fact that you say 'god' rather than 'God'
is evidence that you know there is GOD but
not god.

No, it is not. It is only proof of how I don't wish to give any sort of reverence to an imaginary being. Just one of many that men have invented over the centuries.

Post by Andrew
Which is revealed in your post here, and else
where. Yes, you cannot hide from the truth.

You have a very vivid imagination.

[Bob Officer]

Post by Andrew

Post by Davej

Post by Andrew
[...]
Because he helped formulate a worldview where God
was omitted from origins which was more pleasing to
the increasingly godless society.

Does every natural process exclude your pathetic god?

A worldview is not a 'natural process'? Also a phantasy
is not a 'natural process'. And there is no "pathetic god".

A
L gods are created by man. And that is pathetic, just as the people which
follow these human created and imaginary gods

[Andrew]

Post by Andrew

Post by Davej

Post by Andrew
[...]
Because he helped formulate a worldview where God
was omitted from origins which was more pleasing to
the increasingly godless society.

Does every natural process exclude your pathetic god?

A worldview is not a 'natural process'? Also a phantasy
is not a 'natural process'. And there is no "pathetic god".

A L gods are created by man. And that is pathetic,

Which is why they need to learn about the living God
who made the heavens and earth. Glory to His name!

just as the people which follow these human created
and imaginary gods

Yes, they need the truth.

I totally agree!

Thanks.

[W.T.S., vrn-The Lamp of Golden Truth!*]

Post by Andrew

Post by Andrew

Post by Davej

Post by Andrew
Because he helped formulate a worldview where God
was omitted from origins which was more pleasing to
the increasingly godless society.

Does every natural process exclude your pathetic god?

A worldview is not a 'natural process'? Also a phantasy
is not a 'natural process'. And there is no "pathetic god".

A L gods are created by man. And that is pathetic,

Which is why they need to learn about the living God
who made the heavens and earth. Glory to His name!

just as the people which follow these human created
and imaginary gods

Yes, they need the truth!
I totally agree!
Thanks.

YW, here it is:

http://youtu.be/F1ibEaIPtMk

<http://tinyurl.com/hy7xymb>

[Bob Officer]

Post by Andrew

Post by Andrew

Post by Davej

Post by Andrew
[...]
Because he helped formulate a worldview where God
was omitted from origins which was more pleasing to
the increasingly godless society.

Does every natural process exclude your pathetic god?

A worldview is not a 'natural process'? Also a phantasy
is not a 'natural process'. And there is no "pathetic god".

ALL gods are created by man. And that is pathetic,

Which is why they need to learn about the living God
who made the heavens and earth. Glory to His name!

I call bulllshit produce you god for inspection. That right your god is
just like all the rest created and followed by a bunch of pathetic weak
minded people.

Post by Andrew

just as the people which follow these human created
and imaginary gods

Yes, they need the truth.

You need to wear a sign which proclaims you are a weak minded and pathetic
person.

Post by Andrew
Thanks.

No problem. There is a treatment for your mental disorder. It is called
critical thinking.

[Andrew]

Post by Bob Officer

Post by Andrew

Post by Andrew

Post by Davej

Post by Andrew
[...]
Because he helped formulate a worldview where God
was omitted from origins which was more pleasing to
the increasingly godless society.

Does every natural process exclude your pathetic god?

A worldview is not a 'natural process'? Also a phantasy
is not a 'natural process'. And there is no "pathetic god".

ALL gods are created by man. And that is pathetic,

Which is why they need to learn about the living God
who made the heavens and earth. Glory to His name!

I call bulllshit produce you god for inspection.

The fact that you say 'god' rather than 'God' is
evidence that you know there is GOD but not
god.

I subscribe to no 'god'. I believe in no 'god'.

Post by Bob Officer
That right your god is just like all the rest

I note that atheists are afraid to say, "God".

You know there is no 'god' so you can't get
in trouble with him because he doesn't exist.

But the GOD who is the Majesty of heaven
is altogether a different story. You try to be
careful not to get in trouble with Him.

Post by Bob Officer
created and followed by a bunch of pathetic
weak minded people.

You're talking about 'god' here, not GOD.

Post by Bob Officer

Post by Andrew

just as the people which follow these
human created and imaginary gods

Yes, they need the truth.

You need to wear a sign which proclaims you
are a weak minded and pathetic person.

Thanks, but you need to learn the difference
between 'god' and 'GOD' who is the majesty
of heaven. He is so awesome. Glory to Him!

Post by Bob Officer

Post by Andrew
Thanks.

No problem. There is a treatment for your
mental disorder. It is called critical thinking.

One more time --> I believe in no 'god'.

[Bob Officer]

Post by Andrew

Post by Andrew

Post by Andrew

Post by Davej

Post by Andrew
[...]
Because he helped formulate a worldview where God
was omitted from origins which was more pleasing to
the increasingly godless society.

Does every natural process exclude your pathetic god?

A worldview is not a 'natural process'? Also a phantasy
is not a 'natural process'. And there is no "pathetic god".

ALL gods are created by man. And that is pathetic,

Which is why they need to learn about the living God
who made the heavens and earth. Glory to His name!

I call bulllshit produce your god for inspection.

The fact that you say 'god' rather than 'God' is
evidence that you know there is GOD but not
god.

Nope I won't even credit the word god with a capital letter, because god is
not a person place or thing. It is strictly your mental delusion.

Post by Andrew
I subscribe to no 'god'. I believe in no 'god'.

That right your god is just like all the rest

I note that atheists are afraid to say, "God".

I won't give it any mor e status than your personal delusion.

I will state it simply for you. Your belief in god is a mental illness.
Seek help from a qualified mental practitioner.

[Cloud Hobbit]

Post by Andrew

Post by Bob Officer

Post by Andrew

Post by Andrew

Post by Davej

Post by Andrew
[...]
Because he helped formulate a worldview where God
was omitted from origins which was more pleasing to
the increasingly godless society.

Does every natural process exclude your pathetic god?

A worldview is not a 'natural process'? Also a phantasy
is not a 'natural process'. And there is no "pathetic god".

ALL gods are created by man. And that is pathetic,

Which is why they need to learn about the living God
who made the heavens and earth. Glory to His name!

I call bulllshit produce you god for inspection.

The fact that you say 'god' rather than 'God' is
evidence that you know there is GOD but not
god.
I subscribe to no 'god'. I believe in no 'god'.

Post by Bob Officer
That right your god is just like all the rest

I note that atheists are afraid to say, "God".
You know there is no 'god' so you can't get
in trouble with him because he doesn't exist.
But the GOD who is the Majesty of heaven
is altogether a different story. You try to be
careful not to get in trouble with Him.

There is such thing as GOD, or god, or God. If you think otherwise provide proof.

Post by Andrew

Post by Bob Officer
created and followed by a bunch of pathetic
weak minded people.

You're talking about 'god' here, not GOD.

No, God, god, or God, all the same to us and none of them exist.

Post by Andrew

Post by Bob Officer

Post by Andrew

just as the people which follow these
human created and imaginary gods

Yes, they need the truth.

You need to wear a sign which proclaims you
are a weak minded and pathetic person.

Thanks, but you need to learn the difference
between 'god' and 'GOD' who is the majesty
of heaven. He is so awesome. Glory to Him!

There is no god,GOD, or God. They are all imaginary and do not exist.

Post by Andrew

Post by Bob Officer

Post by Andrew
Thanks.

No problem. There is a treatment for your
mental disorder. It is called critical thinking.

One more time --> I believe in no 'god'.

I believe in no God, god, or GOD. Fuck you God.
Big fake, prove your existence you brainless fucking loser.

Not afraind of the nonexistent.

[Cloud Hobbit]

Post by Andrew

Post by Andrew

Post by Davej

Post by Andrew
[...]
Because he helped formulate a worldview where God
was omitted from origins which was more pleasing to
the increasingly godless society.

Does every natural process exclude your pathetic god?

A worldview is not a 'natural process'? Also a phantasy
is not a 'natural process'. And there is no "pathetic god".

A L gods are created by man. And that is pathetic,

Which is why they need to learn about the living God
who made the heavens and earth. Glory to His name!

Prove he exists.

Post by Andrew

just as the people which follow these human-created
and imaginary gods

Yes, they need the truth.
I totally agree!
Thanks.

But you are not after any truth that contradicts the bible. IOW you want lies.
That the bible is full of shit is no in dispute. It as been proven many times.

Prove that any god exists.

[Cloud Hobbit]

That is correct. Your pathetic god does not exist.

[q***@gmail.com]

Post by Cloud Hobbit
That is correct.

It might help, mr troll, if you showed who you were replying to.

Take some deep breaths and learn this before you click send for the multimillionth time on usenet.

[Cloud Hobbit]

Why do you bother? Do you really thonk you can tarnish the reputation or unddiscover the theory of evolution?
It wouln't matter if Darwin was a scienist or a plumber. He still discovered evoltion through natural selection.
Before that he was a recognized world expert on barnacles. This does not paint a picture of a sloppy scientist.

Still it does not matter what you think of him. His work is enshrined as one of the most important discoveries ever made.

There is nothing you can do about that. Either as a troll or as a fake Christian.

[q***@gmail.com]

Post by Cloud Hobbit
the theory of evolution?

Explain.

[Cloud Hobbit]

Been there done that. Read a fucking biology book.

This was covered in most middle school science calasses.

It has been discussed here many times and the newsgroup talk.origins will be happy to explain it. I am not going to drag this thread on any longer.

The world knows who Darwin was and what he did.

That some people, a tiny minority recfuseto accept it does not make it any less true.
Attacking his character will not erase his work. Nothing can do that.

[John Locke]

On Mon, 3 Oct 2016 14:03:37 -0700 (PDT), Cloud Hobbit

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Been there done that. Read a fucking biology book.
This was covered in most middle school science calasses.
It has been discussed here many times and the newsgroup talk.origins will be happy to explain it. I am not going to drag this thread on any longer.
The world knows who Darwin was and what he did.
That some people, a tiny minority recfuseto accept it does not make it any less true.

...unfortuneately it's not a tiny minority. It's half the friggen
population of the U.S. that refuse to accept evolution theory
becuase it shakes their god beliefs to the core.

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Attacking his character will not erase his work. Nothing can do that.

...correct, nor will fundy morons succeed in rewriting nature despite
their tenaciously deceitful attempts to do so.

[t***@gmail.com]

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Been there done that. Read a fucking biology book.
This was covered in most middle school science calasses.
It has been discussed here many times and the newsgroup talk.origins will be happy to explain it. I am not going to drag this thread on any longer.
The world knows who Darwin was and what he did.

No, dipshit, i fail to see what that idea has to do with GODs existence.

[Cloud Hobbit]

Post by t***@gmail.com

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Been there done that. Read a fucking biology book.
This was covered in most middle school science calasses.
It has been discussed here many times and the newsgroup talk.origins will be happy to explain it. I am not going to drag this thread on any longer.
The world knows who Darwin was and what he did.

No, dipshit, i fail to see what that idea has to do with GODs existence.

Nothing has anything to do with god's existence. There is no God. There was no Abraham, no Moses, no Noah, no Flood, no Exodus. Just throw out all the OT and you will be better off, it's almost all ficition.

The NT talks about a guy that prformed miracles but was so uninteresting, that nobody wrote a word about him during his lifetime.

If anybody remotely like Jesus existed, he was not anything like the one in the NT.

You are convinced there is a god. Why? Based on what?

[Jeanne Douglas]

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Been there done that. Read a fucking biology book.
This was covered in most middle school science calasses.
It has been discussed here many times and the newsgroup talk.origins will be
happy to explain it. I am not going to drag this thread on any longer.
The world knows who Darwin was and what he did.
That some people, a tiny minority recfuseto accept it does not make it any less true.
Attacking his character will not erase his work. Nothing can do that.

Yep. It could come out that he hate babies for breakfast every Sunday
and it still wouldn't refute his science.

[%]

In article

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Been there done that. Read a fucking biology
book.
This was covered in most middle school science
calasses.
It has been discussed here many times and the
newsgroup talk.origins
will be happy to explain it. I am not going to
drag this thread on
any longer.
The world knows who Darwin was and what he did.
That some people, a tiny minority recfuseto
accept it does not make
it any less true.
Attacking his character will not erase his
work. Nothing can do
that.

Yep. It could come out that he hate babies for
breakfast every Sunday
and it still wouldn't refute his science.

how could anyone hate babies for breakfast

[Kevrob]

Post by %

In article

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Been there done that. Read a fucking biology
book.
This was covered in most middle school science
calasses.
It has been discussed here many times and the
newsgroup talk.origins
will be happy to explain it. I am not going to
drag this thread on
any longer.
The world knows who Darwin was and what he did.
That some people, a tiny minority recfuseto
accept it does not make
it any less true.
Attacking his character will not erase his
work. Nothing can do
that.

Yep. It could come out that he hate babies for
breakfast every Sunday
and it still wouldn't refute his science.

how could anyone hate babies for breakfast

Maybe they like their "long pork" from a full grown specimen?
Y'know, like some people like beef, but don't like veal?

Kevin R

[Cloud Hobbit]

Post by q***@gmail.com

Post by Cloud Hobbit
the theory of evolution?

Explain.

Living things evolve over time, through the process of natural selection.
This has been demonstrated to be true or over 150 years and has led to new fields of medicine and new treatments ith things like antibiotics, vaccines, and so on.

There ae several good places that explain it. You might start with talk.origins.

Which part do you have problems understanding?

[Andrew]

Post by Cloud Hobbit

Post by q***@gmail.com

Post by Cloud Hobbit
the theory of evolution?

Explain.

Living things evolve over time, through the process of natural selection.

They knew about natural selection throughout history.

In fact, it is even mentioned in the Holy Bible.

Post by Cloud Hobbit
This has been demonstrated to be true or over 150 years

It has also been demonstrated in Bible times.

Post by Cloud Hobbit
and has led to new fields of medicine and new treatments
ith things like antibiotics, vaccines, and so on.

No.

Post by Cloud Hobbit
There ae several good places that explain it.

_____________________________________________

"I recently asked more than 70 eminent researchers if they
would have done their work differently if they had thought
Darwin's theory was wrong. The responses were all the
same: No.

I also examined the outstanding biodiscoveries of the past
century: the discovery of the double helix; the characterization
of the ribosome; the mapping of genomes; research on
medications and drug reactions; improvements in food
production and sanitation; the development of new surgeries;
and others.

I even queried biologists working in areas where one would
expect the Darwinian paradigm to have most benefited research,
such as the emergence of resistance to antibiotics and pesticides.

Here, as else where, I found that Darwin's theory had provided
no discernible guidance but was brought in, AFTER the
breakthroughs, as an interesting narrative gloss. <----

When an explanation is so supple that it can explain any behavior,
it is difficult to test it experimentally, much less use it as a catalyst
for scientific discovery."

~ Philip S. Skell. August 29, 2005
Why Do We Invoke Darwin?
The Scientist, Vol. 19, No. 16, p. 10
member, National Academy of Sciences

[Cloud Hobbit]

Post by Andrew

Post by Cloud Hobbit

Post by q***@gmail.com

Post by Cloud Hobbit
the theory of evolution?

Explain.

Living things evolve over time, through the process of natural selection.

They knew about natural selection throughout history.

Not the impression te rest of the world has.

Post by Andrew
In fact, it is even mentioned in the Holy Bible.

That worthless pile of bullshit and fiction? So what?

Post by Andrew

Post by Cloud Hobbit
This has been demonstrated to be true or over 150 years

It has also been demonstrated in Bible times.

I'll bite. Please provide appropriate quotes from the Bible that you think prove this. Then explain why so many theists reject the notion of evolution.

Post by Andrew

Post by Cloud Hobbit
and has led to new fields of medicine and new treatments
ith things like antibiotics, vaccines, and so on.

No.

Yes.

Post by Andrew

Post by Cloud Hobbit
There ae several good places that explain it.

snip<<

[Andrew]

Post by Cloud Hobbit
His work is enshrined as one of the most
important discoveries ever made.

Can you please explain exactly
what it was that he discovered.

Because no one here is able to.

Thanks.

[W.T.S., vrn-The Lamp of Golden Truth!*]

Post by Andrew

Post by Cloud Hobbit
His work is enshrined as one of the most
important discoveries ever made.

Can you please explain exactly
what it was that he discovered.
Because no one here is able to.
Thanks.

Certainly!!! Here it is, again, once more:

<https://sphericalbullshit.wordpress.com/2013/05/02/what-i-would-say-to-
creationists-if-i-was-more-of-a-dick/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zascach>

< https://edthemanicstreetpreacher.wordpress.com/2010/04/09/dawkins-
berlinski/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zmv3xf2>

<https://www.theguardian.com/science/head-quarters/2014/feb/06/22-
answers-creationism-evolution-bill-nye-ken-ham-debate>

<http://tinyurl.com/hwjf83d>

<http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/dumb-things-creationists-
say/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zq9wt5k>

<http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/20/magazine/unintelligent-design.html?
_r=0>

<http://tinyurl.com/h7ubjta>

<http://www.eoht.info/page/Creationism+scientists+ranked+by+idiocy>

<http://tinyurl.com/h5y2gao>

<https://www.chess.com/groups/forumview/18-creationist-arguments-
debunked>

<http://tinyurl.com/zb7sfyr>

<http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Category:Creationism>

<http://tinyurl.com/zt8dycq>

<https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/jan/28/creation-origin-life-
future-adam-rutherford-review>

<http://tinyurl.com/hsj6u6y>

<http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2016/06/07/what-do-physicists-
think-of-michio-kaku/>

<http://tinyurl.com/j32bskg>

<http://undsci.berkeley.edu/article/howscienceworks_16>

<http://tinyurl.com/3p4e7mx>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Darwin>

<http://tinyurl.com/jyzjfar>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregor_Mendel>

<http://tinyurl.com/pcqylyj>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution>

<http://tinyurl.com/7vw8ozk>

<http://www.famousscientists.org/charles-darwin/>

<http://tinyurl.com/jpr7p5v>

<http://darwin-online.org.uk/biography.html>

<http://tinyurl.com/5p6znj>

"Creation science" has not entered the curriculum for a reason so
simple and so basic that we often forget to mention it: because it is
false, and because good teachers understand exactly why it is false.
What could be more destructive of that most fragile yet most precious
commodity in our entire intellectual heritage -- good teaching -- than
a bill forcing honourable teachers to sully their sacred trust by
granting equal treatment to a doctrine not only known to be false, but
calculated to undermine any general understanding of science as an
enterprise? - Stephen Jay Gould.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Jay_Gould>

<http://tinyurl.com/jc3ckub>

<http://www.journals.elsevier.com/journal-of-human-evolution>

<http://tinyurl.com/jsalxfe>

<http://www.annualreviews.org/journal/ecolsys>

<http://tinyurl.com/z8o6zan>

<http://www.cell.com/trends/ecology-evolution/home>

<http://tinyurl.com/pwg6fak>

http://youtu.be/F1ibEaIPtMk

<http://tinyurl.com/hy7xymb>

<http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Falldidit#Falldidit>

<http://tinyurl.com/z4z77ra>

[Mitchell Holman]

Post by Andrew

Post by Cloud Hobbit
His work is enshrined as one of the most
important discoveries ever made.

Can you please explain exactly
what it was that he discovered.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwinism

[Andrew]

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Andrew

Post by Cloud Hobbit
His work is enshrined as one of the most
important discoveries ever made.

Can you please explain exactly
what it was that he discovered.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwinism

It talks about his ideas. I don't see where it
says he was the first person to discover a
'natural process'.

[W.T.S., vrn-The Lamp of Golden Truth!*]

Post by Andrew

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Andrew

Post by Cloud Hobbit
His work is enshrined as one of the most
important discoveries ever made.

Can you please explain exactly
what it was that he discovered.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwinism

It talks about his ideas. I don't see where it
says he was the first person to discover a
'natural process'.

<https://sphericalbullshit.wordpress.com/2013/05/02/what-i-would-say-to-
creationists-if-i-was-more-of-a-dick/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zascach>

< https://edthemanicstreetpreacher.wordpress.com/2010/04/09/dawkins-
berlinski/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zmv3xf2>

<https://www.theguardian.com/science/head-quarters/2014/feb/06/22-
answers-creationism-evolution-bill-nye-ken-ham-debate>

<http://tinyurl.com/hwjf83d>

<http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/dumb-things-creationists-
say/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zq9wt5k>

<http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/20/magazine/unintelligent-design.html?
_r=0>

<http://tinyurl.com/h7ubjta>

<http://www.eoht.info/page/Creationism+scientists+ranked+by+idiocy>

<http://tinyurl.com/h5y2gao>

<https://www.chess.com/groups/forumview/18-creationist-arguments-
debunked>

<http://tinyurl.com/zb7sfyr>

<http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Category:Creationism>

<http://tinyurl.com/zt8dycq>

<https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/jan/28/creation-origin-life-
future-adam-rutherford-review>

<http://tinyurl.com/hsj6u6y>

<http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2016/06/07/what-do-physicists-
think-of-michio-kaku/>

<http://tinyurl.com/j32bskg>

<http://undsci.berkeley.edu/article/howscienceworks_16>

<http://tinyurl.com/3p4e7mx>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Darwin>

<http://tinyurl.com/jyzjfar>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregor_Mendel>

<http://tinyurl.com/pcqylyj>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution>

<http://tinyurl.com/7vw8ozk>

<http://www.famousscientists.org/charles-darwin/>

<http://tinyurl.com/jpr7p5v>

<http://darwin-online.org.uk/biography.html>

<http://tinyurl.com/5p6znj>

"Creation science" has not entered the curriculum for a reason so
simple and so basic that we often forget to mention it: because it is
false, and because good teachers understand exactly why it is false.
What could be more destructive of that most fragile yet most precious
commodity in our entire intellectual heritage -- good teaching -- than
a bill forcing honourable teachers to sully their sacred trust by
granting equal treatment to a doctrine not only known to be false, but
calculated to undermine any general understanding of science as an
enterprise? - Stephen Jay Gould.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Jay_Gould>

<http://tinyurl.com/jc3ckub>

<http://www.journals.elsevier.com/journal-of-human-evolution>

<http://tinyurl.com/jsalxfe>

<http://www.annualreviews.org/journal/ecolsys>

<http://tinyurl.com/z8o6zan>

<http://www.cell.com/trends/ecology-evolution/home>

<http://tinyurl.com/pwg6fak>

http://youtu.be/F1ibEaIPtMk

<http://tinyurl.com/hy7xymb>

<http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Falldidit#Falldidit>

<http://tinyurl.com/z4z77ra>

[Cloud Hobbit]

Post by Andrew

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Andrew

Post by Cloud Hobbit
His work is enshrined as one of the most
important discoveries ever made.

Can you please explain exactly
what it was that he discovered.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwinism

It talks about his ideas. I don't see where it
says he was the first person to discover a
'natural process'.

He discovered what ties all the life sciences together. Evolution through natural selection. He was not the only person to discover this, but the length of time he had been working on it and how thourough he ws are a arge part of the reason it his name we remembr and not that of Alfred Wallace.

It is important to keep in mind that evolution by natural selection is a theory that pertains to all life on earth. To prove a fundamental truth concerning all life on earth requires a range of facts and evidence drawn from every part of the organic world. The scope of the evidence must be commensurate with the scope of the principle it supports—and evolution is the fundamental integrating principle of all biology.

To prove his theory, Darwin assembled and organized “long catalogues of facts.”28 He gathered evidence from all corners of the plant and animal kingdoms, and from all corners of the globe. He had correspondents all over the world who sent him specimens and answered questions on local flora and fauna. He drew on the most obvious and the most obscure facts, spanning all branches of life’s family tree—from the smallest, microscopic organisms to the tallest trees and the largest whales, and from as far back in time as the fossil record went in his day.

He was an example for all science on how to be thourough, how to do the work necessary to get answers. Not necessarily the answer you wanted, but the right answer.

You can decide for yourself if you think he discovered a new natural process or not. It seems more accurate to me, that he discovered something that ties all life together. Something nobody had done before.

Attempts to smear him or say that he did nothing new are pointless. There is far too much data he collected for that to be true.

His work has stood the test of time and constant testing. Evolution through natural selection is real.

[Cloud Hobbit]

Post by Andrew

Post by Cloud Hobbit
His work is enshrined as one of the most
important discoveries ever made.

Can you please explain exactly
what it was that he discovered.
Because no one here is able to.
Thanks.

Liar. It has been explained many times.
Go read a science book.

[Andrew]

Post by Cloud Hobbit

Post by Andrew

Post by Cloud Hobbit
His work is enshrined as one of the most
important discoveries ever made.

Can you please explain exactly
what it was that he discovered.
Because no one here is able to.
Thanks.

Liar. It has been explained many
times. Go read a science book.

You said that he discovered something
important. Why can't you just say what
it was?

[Syd M.]

Post by Andrew

Post by Cloud Hobbit

Post by Andrew

Post by Cloud Hobbit
His work is enshrined as one of the most
important discoveries ever made.

Can you please explain exactly
what it was that he discovered.
Because no one here is able to.
Thanks.

Liar. It has been explained many
times. Go read a science book.

You said that he discovered something
important. Why can't you just say what
it was?

WHy? So you can ignore it again?

PDW

[Christopher A. Lee]

On Thu, 6 Oct 2016 14:25:46 -0700 (PDT), "Syd M."

Post by Syd M.

Post by Andrew

Post by Cloud Hobbit

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Post by Cloud Hobbit
His work is enshrined as one of the most
important discoveries ever made.

Can you please explain exactly
what it was that he discovered.
Because no one here is able to.
Thanks.

Liar. It has been explained many
times. Go read a science book.

You said that he discovered something
important. Why can't you just say what
it was?

WHy? So you can ignore it again?

And pretend it hasn't been provided.

Post by Syd M.
PDW