Post by ed wolf Post by aaa Post by Malcolm McMahon Post by aaa Post by Malcolm McMahon Post by aaa Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is like saying water isn't wet.
sci·ence ˈsīəns/ noun noun: science
the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the
systematic study of the structure and behavior of the
physical and natural world through observation and
Therefore evolution is science.
No. Evolution is a study of life. Life is not just a physical
structure. Life demonstrates consciousness, awareness, and
intelligence that are not physical.
So how is it the mind can be altered by brain damage?
Is that the best argument you can have?
Its a pretty good one. Before FMRI that's how neurologists started to
map the location of brain functions, and to understand which bits of
the brain corresponded to which mental function.
The "case zero" was when a workman got a crowbar through the front of
his head. He survived, but his personality had changed. He was more
impulsive, more callous, less intelligent.
When that was observed neurologists started looking for people with
brain damage at particular locations and observing how it changed
Now of course we don't _want_ to believe this. We want our mind
stashed away safely on the astral plane or something where the
ultimate brain damage - death - can't affect it.
Some have suggested that the brain is acting as a kind of
transceiver, making the link between the mind and the material body.
But this doesn't really work. In such case brain damage might screw
up your senses, or your motor control, but how would it change your
And it's not just brain damage. Drugs too can temporarily change your
thinking, your personality.
The mind can be affected by many things, but it does not mean the mind
can be changed by things. It's spiritual. It's independent from all
physical senses. Being affected does not mean being changed or altered.
It's just a temporary illusion.
How can something be affected without being altered?
Even a rock getting warm and cool with day and night
will be affected in a visible way after some time.
What effect does not leave traces?
Yes, effect does leave traces, and if we take such effect as real, such
traces will become permanent. That is the problem to live in this
illusional physical world. When we take the physical world as real, we
will eventually forget our spiritual nature to be lost in this world.
It's why we need to realize the independent spiritual nature of our mind
so that we don't have to be affected by the things in this world.
Post by ed wolf
But then I guess your definition of mind contains something
like " that part that does not change" and so of course you are
right, like any true scotsman.
No. The part that does not change is not the mind. It's our heart. Our
mind always changes. It's how we live our life. However, our heart is
always true and real. It will never be affected by anything in this
world. It's why we live our life to follow what is found in our heart.
Post by ed wolf
BTW is the mind you talk about the same unaffected entity from
cradle to grave? If not, how come? If yes , what is it?
Our heart is the unaffected entity from cradle to grave. Our mind is the
intelligence coming from our heart. It's always learning, and it relies
on the heart to know everything about this world and things in life. We
look into this world to understand everything, but the actual
understanding only comes from the heart within us. It's why truth and
reality can only be found in our heart.