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What atheism is not
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ernobe
2017-04-21 01:32:55 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the lack
of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just indicates a
situation in which no real theist exists.
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Kit
2017-04-21 08:39:16 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the lack
of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just indicates a
situation in which no real theist exists.
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Try to express your ideas more clearly. How is atheism a "situation"?
ernobe
2017-04-21 18:03:30 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the lack
of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just indicates a
situation in which no real theist exists.
--
https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
Try to express your ideas more clearly. How is atheism a "situation"?
Try to follow the links connected to what you read in my posts.
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b***@m.nu
2017-04-22 02:11:16 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the lack
of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just indicates a
situation in which no real theist exists.
--
https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
Try to express your ideas more clearly. How is atheism a "situation"?
Try to follow the links connected to what you read in my posts.
GEEZ another fucking moron with another dumbass religion that claims
to be monotheist yet it is no so in any way shape or form. Dude are
you that much of a fucking idiot? and are you that desperate for
attention? Do you feel that you need to go somewhere you are not
wanted just so that you can feel like people are talking to you? No
one is talking to you, they are talking at you and then laughing in
your dumb ass fucking face because you are a complete moron, and you
are retarded for believing fairies are real. Since you and your
religion believe that He taught that the people who started the other
major religions also represented and carried messages from God, such
as Jesus, Moses, Abraham, Muhammad, Krishna, the Buddha and others.
were all real then your monotheist belief goes right out the window.
Can you not see the contradiction in your own belief system? How
fucking retarded are you? I learned about your religion about 45
seconds ago and I seem to know more about it than you do.
duke
2017-04-23 15:36:34 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the lack
of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just indicates a
situation in which no real theist exists.
--
https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
Try to express your ideas more clearly. How is atheism a "situation"?
Try to follow the links connected to what you read in my posts.
Oh, my!!

How is atheism a "situation"?

the dukester, American-American

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hypatiab7
2017-04-24 19:12:35 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the lack
of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just indicates a
situation in which no real theist exists.
--
https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
Try to express your ideas more clearly. How is atheism a "situation"?
Try to follow the links connected to what you read in my posts.
Most of the time theist links aren't followed. Over the years many of them proved to carry viruses. If we know a particular troll, we may check it out.
For newbie trolls, no. You are a bouncer. You bounce in and out of newsgroups.
You are not trusted.
Christopher A. Lee
2017-04-24 19:37:02 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the lack
of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just indicates a
situation in which no real theist exists.
--
https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
Try to express your ideas more clearly. How is atheism a "situation"?
Try to follow the links connected to what you read in my posts.
Most of the time theist links aren't followed. Over the years many of them
proved to carry viruses. If we know a particular troll, we may check it out.
For newbie trolls, no. You are a bouncer. You bounce in and out of newsgroups.
You are not trusted.
Earlobe is an old troll.
Robert Carnegie
2017-04-21 10:09:41 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the lack
of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just indicates a
situation in which no real theist exists.
--
https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
How about this: an atheist is someone who
doesn't worship gods.

And, a god is a supernatural person that is
worshipped. If not worshipped, then not a god;
if not a person, then not a god (and worship is
personal anyway); if not supernatural, then
not a god. Not a real god.
Christopher A. Lee
2017-04-21 12:40:10 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the lack
of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just indicates a
situation in which no real theist exists.
--
https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
How about this: an atheist is someone who
doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is
worshipped. If not worshipped, then not a god;
if not a person, then not a god (and worship is
personal anyway); if not supernatural, then
not a god. Not a real god.
These pig-ignorant, stupid morons who can't think outside their
religion, arrogantly imagine they get to tell us what out position
"really" is, and that we have no say in the matter.

I don't see what is so hard to understand that we are outside their
religious paradigm, and cannot be described as if its doctrines and
tenets even applied outside it.

Or that outside their religion, their god is merely somebody else's
religious belief in exactly the same class as Zeus, Odin, Krishna,
Osiris and all the others.
aaa
2017-04-22 12:23:44 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the lack
of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just indicates a
situation in which no real theist exists.
--
https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
How about this: an atheist is someone who
doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is
worshipped. If not worshipped, then not a god;
if not a person, then not a god (and worship is
personal anyway); if not supernatural, then
not a god. Not a real god.
Not good enough. Life is worship. The way you live your life is what
worship is all about. Regardless whether you are consciously aware of
the concept of god, as long as you live your life, you are worshiping a
god or God.
Robert Carnegie
2017-04-22 14:26:08 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the lack
of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just indicates a
situation in which no real theist exists.
--
https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
How about this: an atheist is someone who
doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is
worshipped. If not worshipped, then not a god;
if not a person, then not a god (and worship is
personal anyway); if not supernatural, then
not a god. Not a real god.
Not good enough. Life is worship. The way you live your life is what
worship is all about. Regardless whether you are consciously aware of
the concept of god, as long as you live your life, you are worshiping a
god or God.
No. Worship is actions performed - or avoided -
as a deliberate effort to please one or more
specific gods. Whether it's slaughtering an
endangered animal, giving a priest $500, or
kicking a beggar, if it isn't knowingly done
to honour a god then it isn't worship.
aaa
2017-04-22 20:03:19 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the lack
of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just indicates a
situation in which no real theist exists.
--
https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
How about this: an atheist is someone who
doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is
worshipped. If not worshipped, then not a god;
if not a person, then not a god (and worship is
personal anyway); if not supernatural, then
not a god. Not a real god.
Not good enough. Life is worship. The way you live your life is what
worship is all about. Regardless whether you are consciously aware of
the concept of god, as long as you live your life, you are worshiping a
god or God.
No. Worship is actions performed - or avoided -
as a deliberate effort to please one or more
specific gods. Whether it's slaughtering an
endangered animal, giving a priest $500, or
kicking a beggar, if it isn't knowingly done
to honour a god then it isn't worship.
Of course it's always knowingly done to honor a god or God. If you live
your life for money, you knowingly honor and worship the money god. If
you live your life for love, you knowingly honor and worship the loving
God. No religious issues involved and no religious performance required.
Robert Carnegie
2017-04-22 21:45:22 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the lack
of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just indicates a
situation in which no real theist exists.
--
https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
How about this: an atheist is someone who
doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is
worshipped. If not worshipped, then not a god;
if not a person, then not a god (and worship is
personal anyway); if not supernatural, then
not a god. Not a real god.
Not good enough. Life is worship. The way you live your life is what
worship is all about. Regardless whether you are consciously aware of
the concept of god, as long as you live your life, you are worshiping a
god or God.
No. Worship is actions performed - or avoided -
as a deliberate effort to please one or more
specific gods. Whether it's slaughtering an
endangered animal, giving a priest $500, or
kicking a beggar, if it isn't knowingly done
to honour a god then it isn't worship.
Of course it's always knowingly done to honor a god or God. If you live
your life for money, you knowingly honor and worship the money god. If
you live your life for love, you knowingly honor and worship the loving
God. No religious issues involved and no religious performance required.
No.

A god necessarily is a person.

Money is not a person.

So money is not a god.

Do you know any actual religious people -
since you don't seem to know much about
religious belief.
b***@m.nu
2017-04-23 02:07:10 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the lack
of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just indicates a
situation in which no real theist exists.
--
https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
How about this: an atheist is someone who
doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is
worshipped. If not worshipped, then not a god;
if not a person, then not a god (and worship is
personal anyway); if not supernatural, then
not a god. Not a real god.
Not good enough. Life is worship. The way you live your life is what
worship is all about. Regardless whether you are consciously aware of
the concept of god, as long as you live your life, you are worshiping a
god or God.
No. Worship is actions performed - or avoided -
as a deliberate effort to please one or more
specific gods. Whether it's slaughtering an
endangered animal, giving a priest $500, or
kicking a beggar, if it isn't knowingly done
to honour a god then it isn't worship.
Of course it's always knowingly done to honor a god or God. If you live
your life for money, you knowingly honor and worship the money god. If
you live your life for love, you knowingly honor and worship the loving
God. No religious issues involved and no religious performance required.
No.
A god necessarily is a person.
Money is not a person.
So money is not a god.
Do you know any actual religious people -
since you don't seem to know much about
religious belief.
WoW HARRY POTTER EXISTS.. thanks for clearing that up
aaa
2017-04-23 14:48:00 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the lack
of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just indicates a
situation in which no real theist exists.
--
https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
How about this: an atheist is someone who
doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is
worshipped. If not worshipped, then not a god;
if not a person, then not a god (and worship is
personal anyway); if not supernatural, then
not a god. Not a real god.
Not good enough. Life is worship. The way you live your life is what
worship is all about. Regardless whether you are consciously aware of
the concept of god, as long as you live your life, you are worshiping a
god or God.
No. Worship is actions performed - or avoided -
as a deliberate effort to please one or more
specific gods. Whether it's slaughtering an
endangered animal, giving a priest $500, or
kicking a beggar, if it isn't knowingly done
to honour a god then it isn't worship.
Of course it's always knowingly done to honor a god or God. If you live
your life for money, you knowingly honor and worship the money god. If
you live your life for love, you knowingly honor and worship the loving
God. No religious issues involved and no religious performance required.
No.
A god necessarily is a person.
Money is not a person.
So money is not a god.
God is a spiritual being. God should not be idolized as a human person.
Money, however, is idolized as a real person when it's worshiped by people.
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Do you know any actual religious people -
since you don't seem to know much about
religious belief.
No, I do not. I have no contact with any religious people.
Robert Carnegie
2017-04-23 18:02:49 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the lack
of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just indicates a
situation in which no real theist exists.
--
https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
How about this: an atheist is someone who
doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is
worshipped. If not worshipped, then not a god;
if not a person, then not a god (and worship is
personal anyway); if not supernatural, then
not a god. Not a real god.
Not good enough. Life is worship. The way you live your life is what
worship is all about. Regardless whether you are consciously aware of
the concept of god, as long as you live your life, you are worshiping a
god or God.
No. Worship is actions performed - or avoided -
as a deliberate effort to please one or more
specific gods. Whether it's slaughtering an
endangered animal, giving a priest $500, or
kicking a beggar, if it isn't knowingly done
to honour a god then it isn't worship.
Of course it's always knowingly done to honor a god or God. If you live
your life for money, you knowingly honor and worship the money god. If
you live your life for love, you knowingly honor and worship the loving
God. No religious issues involved and no religious performance required.
No.
A god necessarily is a person.
Money is not a person.
So money is not a god.
God is a spiritual being. God should not be
idolized as a human person.
You mention Jesus from time to time.
Clearly Jesus is meant to be a god who is
a human person.
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Money, however, is idolized as a real person when it's worshiped by people.
No.
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Post by Robert Carnegie
Do you know any actual religious people -
since you don't seem to know much about
religious belief.
No, I do not. I have no contact with any
religious people.
It shows. Please expand your knowledge in
that area. Take as long as you require.
b***@m.nu
2017-04-23 18:20:11 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the lack
of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just indicates a
situation in which no real theist exists.
--
https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
How about this: an atheist is someone who
doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is
worshipped. If not worshipped, then not a god;
if not a person, then not a god (and worship is
personal anyway); if not supernatural, then
not a god. Not a real god.
Not good enough. Life is worship. The way you live your life is what
worship is all about. Regardless whether you are consciously aware of
the concept of god, as long as you live your life, you are worshiping a
god or God.
No. Worship is actions performed - or avoided -
as a deliberate effort to please one or more
specific gods. Whether it's slaughtering an
endangered animal, giving a priest $500, or
kicking a beggar, if it isn't knowingly done
to honour a god then it isn't worship.
Of course it's always knowingly done to honor a god or God. If you live
your life for money, you knowingly honor and worship the money god. If
you live your life for love, you knowingly honor and worship the loving
God. No religious issues involved and no religious performance required.
No.
A god necessarily is a person.
Money is not a person.
So money is not a god.
God is a spiritual being. God should not be
idolized as a human person.
You mention Jesus from time to time.
Clearly Jesus is meant to be a god who is
a human person.
and you have just shown that Christianity is NOT a monotheist
religion. thanks for clearing that up
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Post by aaa
Money, however, is idolized as a real person when it's worshiped by people.
No.
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Post by Robert Carnegie
Do you know any actual religious people -
since you don't seem to know much about
religious belief.
No, I do not. I have no contact with any
religious people.
It shows. Please expand your knowledge in
that area. Take as long as you require.
aaa
2017-04-24 07:47:18 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the lack
of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just indicates a
situation in which no real theist exists.
--
https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
How about this: an atheist is someone who
doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is
worshipped. If not worshipped, then not a god;
if not a person, then not a god (and worship is
personal anyway); if not supernatural, then
not a god. Not a real god.
Not good enough. Life is worship. The way you live your life is what
worship is all about. Regardless whether you are consciously aware of
the concept of god, as long as you live your life, you are worshiping a
god or God.
No. Worship is actions performed - or avoided -
as a deliberate effort to please one or more
specific gods. Whether it's slaughtering an
endangered animal, giving a priest $500, or
kicking a beggar, if it isn't knowingly done
to honour a god then it isn't worship.
Of course it's always knowingly done to honor a god or God. If you live
your life for money, you knowingly honor and worship the money god. If
you live your life for love, you knowingly honor and worship the loving
God. No religious issues involved and no religious performance required.
No.
A god necessarily is a person.
Money is not a person.
So money is not a god.
God is a spiritual being. God should not be
idolized as a human person.
You mention Jesus from time to time.
Clearly Jesus is meant to be a god who is
a human person.
Yes, but no one should idolize Jesus either.
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Post by aaa
Money, however, is idolized as a real person when it's worshiped by people.
No.
Yes, it is.
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Post by Robert Carnegie
Do you know any actual religious people -
since you don't seem to know much about
religious belief.
No, I do not. I have no contact with any
religious people.
It shows. Please expand your knowledge in
that area. Take as long as you require.
Why? I'm not interested in religion. I'm only interested in God.
Robert Carnegie
2017-04-24 17:43:04 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the lack
of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just indicates a
situation in which no real theist exists.
--
https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
How about this: an atheist is someone who
doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is
worshipped. If not worshipped, then not a god;
if not a person, then not a god (and worship is
personal anyway); if not supernatural, then
not a god. Not a real god.
Not good enough. Life is worship. The way you live your life is what
worship is all about. Regardless whether you are consciously aware of
the concept of god, as long as you live your life, you are worshiping a
god or God.
No. Worship is actions performed - or avoided -
as a deliberate effort to please one or more
specific gods. Whether it's slaughtering an
endangered animal, giving a priest $500, or
kicking a beggar, if it isn't knowingly done
to honour a god then it isn't worship.
Of course it's always knowingly done to honor a god or God. If you live
your life for money, you knowingly honor and worship the money god. If
you live your life for love, you knowingly honor and worship the loving
God. No religious issues involved and no religious performance required.
No.
A god necessarily is a person.
Money is not a person.
So money is not a god.
God is a spiritual being. God should not be
idolized as a human person.
You mention Jesus from time to time.
Clearly Jesus is meant to be a god who is
a human person.
Yes, but no one should idolize Jesus either.
Do you believe that Jesus really is a god?
If not, what and who do you think Jesus is?
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Post by Robert Carnegie
Post by aaa
Money, however, is idolized as a real person when it's worshiped by people.
No.
Yes, it is.
No.
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Post by aaa
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Do you know any actual religious people -
since you don't seem to know much about
religious belief.
No, I do not. I have no contact with any
religious people.
It shows. Please expand your knowledge in
that area. Take as long as you require.
Why? I'm not interested in religion. I'm only interested in God.
That is religion.
aaa
2017-04-24 22:11:17 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the lack
of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just indicates a
situation in which no real theist exists.
--
https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
How about this: an atheist is someone who
doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is
worshipped. If not worshipped, then not a god;
if not a person, then not a god (and worship is
personal anyway); if not supernatural, then
not a god. Not a real god.
Not good enough. Life is worship. The way you live your life is what
worship is all about. Regardless whether you are consciously aware of
the concept of god, as long as you live your life, you are worshiping a
god or God.
No. Worship is actions performed - or avoided -
as a deliberate effort to please one or more
specific gods. Whether it's slaughtering an
endangered animal, giving a priest $500, or
kicking a beggar, if it isn't knowingly done
to honour a god then it isn't worship.
Of course it's always knowingly done to honor a god or God. If you live
your life for money, you knowingly honor and worship the money god. If
you live your life for love, you knowingly honor and worship the loving
God. No religious issues involved and no religious performance required.
No.
A god necessarily is a person.
Money is not a person.
So money is not a god.
God is a spiritual being. God should not be
idolized as a human person.
You mention Jesus from time to time.
Clearly Jesus is meant to be a god who is
a human person.
Yes, but no one should idolize Jesus either.
Do you believe that Jesus really is a god?
If not, what and who do you think Jesus is?
I believe Jesus Christ is the incarnation of God.
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Money, however, is idolized as a real person when it's worshiped by people.
No.
Yes, it is.
No.
When one worships money, one gives one's life to money. That is
idolizing money to make it a real person.
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Do you know any actual religious people -
since you don't seem to know much about
religious belief.
No, I do not. I have no contact with any
religious people.
It shows. Please expand your knowledge in
that area. Take as long as you require.
Why? I'm not interested in religion. I'm only interested in God.
That is religion.
No. God is the God of all people. I don't worship God religiously. I
worship God spiritually 24/7 with my thought, my action, and my speech
in my ordinary life as an ordinary person just like everyone else.
hypatiab7
2017-04-24 20:01:21 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the lack
of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just indicates a
situation in which no real theist exists.
How about this: an atheist is someone who
doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is
worshipped. If not worshipped, then not a god;
if not a person, then not a god (and worship is
personal anyway); if not supernatural, then
not a god. Not a real god.
Not good enough. Life is worship. The way you live your life is what
worship is all about. Regardless whether you are consciously aware of
the concept of god, as long as you live your life, you are worshiping a
god or God.
No. Worship is actions performed - or avoided -
as a deliberate effort to please one or more
specific gods. Whether it's slaughtering an
endangered animal, giving a priest $500, or
kicking a beggar, if it isn't knowingly done
to honour a god then it isn't worship.
Of course it's always knowingly done to honor a god or God. If you live
your life for money, you knowingly honor and worship the money god. If
you live your life for love, you knowingly honor and worship the loving
God. No religious issues involved and no religious performance required.
No.
A god necessarily is a person.
Money is not a person.
So money is not a god.
God is a spiritual being. God should not be idolized as a human person.
Money, however, is idolized as a real person when it's worshiped by people.
No, money is simply a means to an end -buying things, paying money owed.
Yet again, you make up definitions as you go along.
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Post by Robert Carnegie
Do you know any actual religious people -
since you don't seem to know much about
religious belief.
No, I do not. I have no contact with any religious people.
You don't want to know any religious people. You're too busy making up
your own religion. Too bad you aren't convincing anyone.
aaa
2017-04-24 22:16:55 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the lack
of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just indicates a
situation in which no real theist exists.
How about this: an atheist is someone who
doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is
worshipped. If not worshipped, then not a god;
if not a person, then not a god (and worship is
personal anyway); if not supernatural, then
not a god. Not a real god.
Not good enough. Life is worship. The way you live your life is what
worship is all about. Regardless whether you are consciously aware of
the concept of god, as long as you live your life, you are worshiping a
god or God.
No. Worship is actions performed - or avoided -
as a deliberate effort to please one or more
specific gods. Whether it's slaughtering an
endangered animal, giving a priest $500, or
kicking a beggar, if it isn't knowingly done
to honour a god then it isn't worship.
Of course it's always knowingly done to honor a god or God. If you live
your life for money, you knowingly honor and worship the money god. If
you live your life for love, you knowingly honor and worship the loving
God. No religious issues involved and no religious performance required.
No.
A god necessarily is a person.
Money is not a person.
So money is not a god.
God is a spiritual being. God should not be idolized as a human person.
Money, however, is idolized as a real person when it's worshiped by people.
No, money is simply a means to an end -buying things, paying money owed.
Yet again, you make up definitions as you go along.
I'm talking about worshiping money.
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Post by Robert Carnegie
Do you know any actual religious people -
since you don't seem to know much about
religious belief.
No, I do not. I have no contact with any religious people.
You don't want to know any religious people. You're too busy making up
your own religion. Too bad you aren't convincing anyone.
I'm not sure what you are talking about. This is only my personal
spiritual practice to improve myself. It helps me to better organize my
thoughts and to realize new things. I don't have anything to preach. I
follow the discussion wherever it goes.
hypatiab7
2017-04-24 19:55:17 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the lack
of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just indicates a
situation in which no real theist exists.
--
https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
How about this: an atheist is someone who
doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is
worshipped. If not worshipped, then not a god;
if not a person, then not a god (and worship is
personal anyway); if not supernatural, then
not a god. Not a real god.
Not good enough. Life is worship. The way you live your life is what
worship is all about. Regardless whether you are consciously aware of
the concept of god, as long as you live your life, you are worshiping a
god or God.
No. Worship is actions performed - or avoided -
as a deliberate effort to please one or more
specific gods. Whether it's slaughtering an
endangered animal, giving a priest $500, or
kicking a beggar, if it isn't knowingly done
to honour a god then it isn't worship.
Of course it's always knowingly done to honor a god or God. If you live
your life for money, you knowingly honor and worship the money god. If
you live your life for love, you knowingly honor and worship the loving
God. No religious issues involved and no religious performance required.
No, it is NOT always done to knowingly honor any kind of god. It is done
to feed hungry people, because some people are scared to death of the god
they supposedly worship and the kicker could simply be sadistic. Again you
interpret things the way you want. Reality means nothing to you.
Robert Carnegie
2017-04-24 20:13:10 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the lack
of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just indicates a
situation in which no real theist exists.
--
https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
How about this: an atheist is someone who
doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is
worshipped. If not worshipped, then not a god;
if not a person, then not a god (and worship is
personal anyway); if not supernatural, then
not a god. Not a real god.
Not good enough. Life is worship. The way you live your life is what
worship is all about. Regardless whether you are consciously aware of
the concept of god, as long as you live your life, you are worshiping a
god or God.
No. Worship is actions performed - or avoided -
as a deliberate effort to please one or more
specific gods. Whether it's slaughtering an
endangered animal, giving a priest $500, or
kicking a beggar, if it isn't knowingly done
to honour a god then it isn't worship.
Of course it's always knowingly done to honor a god or God. If you live
your life for money, you knowingly honor and worship the money god. If
you live your life for love, you knowingly honor and worship the loving
God. No religious issues involved and no religious performance required.
No, it is NOT always done to knowingly honor any kind of god. It is done
to feed hungry people, because some people are scared to death of the god
they supposedly worship and the kicker could simply be sadistic. Again you
interpret things the way you want. Reality means nothing to you.
Well - if I give money to a priest only because
I believe that the god will kill me if I don't
(New Testament: Acts 5, look it up), that's
still worship, I say. Worship under duress,
but still worship.

If I give money to the priest because I believe
the priest will kill me, that is subtly different.
Really it's the same as giving money to Al Capone,
but then, so is the god one.

If I give money to a priest on the understanding
that he will use it to buy food for poor people -
in the name of his religion - I think that counts
as worship from me, as well. Do you agree with
me identifying money as a form of worship?
This may be what's confusing aaa about that, but,
look at all the shiny gold there is in temples,
and all over the Vatican.

Anyway, that's why I avoid giving money to any
religious charity. I may make an exception
for Santa Claus - but I will check the label
on his money bucket.
aaa
2017-04-24 22:25:54 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the lack
of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just indicates a
situation in which no real theist exists.
--
https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
How about this: an atheist is someone who
doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is
worshipped. If not worshipped, then not a god;
if not a person, then not a god (and worship is
personal anyway); if not supernatural, then
not a god. Not a real god.
Not good enough. Life is worship. The way you live your life is what
worship is all about. Regardless whether you are consciously aware of
the concept of god, as long as you live your life, you are worshiping a
god or God.
No. Worship is actions performed - or avoided -
as a deliberate effort to please one or more
specific gods. Whether it's slaughtering an
endangered animal, giving a priest $500, or
kicking a beggar, if it isn't knowingly done
to honour a god then it isn't worship.
Of course it's always knowingly done to honor a god or God. If you live
your life for money, you knowingly honor and worship the money god. If
you live your life for love, you knowingly honor and worship the loving
God. No religious issues involved and no religious performance required.
No, it is NOT always done to knowingly honor any kind of god. It is done
to feed hungry people, because some people are scared to death of the god
they supposedly worship and the kicker could simply be sadistic. Again you
interpret things the way you want. Reality means nothing to you.
Apparently, I'm not as cynical as you.
hypatiab7
2017-04-23 03:40:51 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the lack
of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just indicates a
situation in which no real theist exists.
--
https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
How about this: an atheist is someone who
doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is
worshipped. If not worshipped, then not a god;
if not a person, then not a god (and worship is
personal anyway); if not supernatural, then
not a god. Not a real god.
Not good enough. Life is worship. The way you live your life is what
worship is all about. Regardless whether you are consciously aware of
the concept of god, as long as you live your life, you are worshiping a
god or God.
There you go again redefining words. Provide evidence that your god exists or your words mean nothing.
aaa
2017-04-23 14:49:35 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the
lack of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just
indicates a situation in which no real theist exists.
-- https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
How about this: an atheist is someone who doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is worshipped. If not
worshipped, then not a god; if not a person, then not a god (and
worship is personal anyway); if not supernatural, then not a god.
Not a real god.
Not good enough. Life is worship. The way you live your life is
what worship is all about. Regardless whether you are consciously
aware of the concept of god, as long as you live your life, you are
worshiping a god or God.
There you go again redefining words. Provide evidence that your god
exists or your words mean nothing.
I have done exactly that. I have provided a whole list of God's
spiritual evidence.
Mitchell Holman
2017-04-23 16:44:53 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the
lack of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just
indicates a situation in which no real theist exists.
-- https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
How about this: an atheist is someone who doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is worshipped. If not
worshipped, then not a god; if not a person, then not a god (and
worship is personal anyway); if not supernatural, then not a god.
Not a real god.
Not good enough. Life is worship. The way you live your life is
what worship is all about. Regardless whether you are consciously
aware of the concept of god, as long as you live your life, you are
worshiping a god or God.
There you go again redefining words. Provide evidence that your god
exists or your words mean nothing.
I have done exactly that. I have provided a whole list of God's
spiritual evidence.
This just in, there is no such thing as spirituall evidence.

We now return to your regularly scheduled programing......
aaa
2017-04-24 07:48:15 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the
lack of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just
indicates a situation in which no real theist exists.
-- https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
How about this: an atheist is someone who doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is worshipped. If not
worshipped, then not a god; if not a person, then not a god (and
worship is personal anyway); if not supernatural, then not a god.
Not a real god.
Not good enough. Life is worship. The way you live your life is
what worship is all about. Regardless whether you are consciously
aware of the concept of god, as long as you live your life, you are
worshiping a god or God.
There you go again redefining words. Provide evidence that your god
exists or your words mean nothing.
I have done exactly that. I have provided a whole list of God's
spiritual evidence.
This just in, there is no such thing as spirituall evidence.
We now return to your regularly scheduled programing......
That's just your blind denial.
Smiler
2017-04-24 02:59:22 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the lack of
them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just indicates a
situation in which no real theist exists.
-- https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
How about this: an atheist is someone who doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is worshipped. If not
worshipped, then not a god; if not a person, then not a god (and
worship is personal anyway); if not supernatural, then not a god.
Not a real god.
Not good enough. Life is worship. The way you live your life is what
worship is all about. Regardless whether you are consciously aware of
the concept of god, as long as you live your life, you are worshiping
a god or God.
There you go again redefining words. Provide evidence that your god
exists or your words mean nothing.
I have done exactly that. I have provided a whole list of God's
spiritual evidence.
I have provided a whole list of evidence for flubdescrunts, yet you are
still blind to them.
--
Smiler,
The godless one. a.a.# 2279
All gods are tailored to order. They're made to
exactly fit the prejudices of their believers.
Don Martin
2017-04-24 11:43:54 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the lack of
them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just indicates a
situation in which no real theist exists.
-- https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
How about this: an atheist is someone who doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is worshipped. If not
worshipped, then not a god; if not a person, then not a god (and
worship is personal anyway); if not supernatural, then not a god.
Not a real god.
Not good enough. Life is worship. The way you live your life is what
worship is all about. Regardless whether you are consciously aware of
the concept of god, as long as you live your life, you are worshiping
a god or God.
There you go again redefining words. Provide evidence that your god
exists or your words mean nothing.
I have done exactly that. I have provided a whole list of God's
spiritual evidence.
I have provided a whole list of evidence for flubdescrunts, yet you are
still blind to them.
There are none so blind as those who refuse to see . . . .
--
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
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2017-04-24 22:32:06 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the lack of
them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just indicates a
situation in which no real theist exists.
-- https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
How about this: an atheist is someone who doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is worshipped. If not
worshipped, then not a god; if not a person, then not a god (and
worship is personal anyway); if not supernatural, then not a god.
Not a real god.
Not good enough. Life is worship. The way you live your life is what
worship is all about. Regardless whether you are consciously aware of
the concept of god, as long as you live your life, you are worshiping
a god or God.
There you go again redefining words. Provide evidence that your god
exists or your words mean nothing.
I have done exactly that. I have provided a whole list of God's
spiritual evidence.
I have provided a whole list of evidence for flubdescrunts, yet you are
still blind to them.
There are none so blind as those who refuse to see . . . .
God's spiritual evidence is not just something for you to see. It's also
something for you to know and understand through your personal
experience. The spiritual things can't really be seen with eyes. They
can only be experienced in real life.
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2017-04-25 03:44:50 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the lack
of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just indicates a
situation in which no real theist exists.
-- https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
How about this: an atheist is someone who doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is worshipped. If not
worshipped, then not a god; if not a person, then not a god (and
worship is personal anyway); if not supernatural, then not a god.
Not a real god.
Not good enough. Life is worship. The way you live your life is
what worship is all about. Regardless whether you are consciously
aware of the concept of god, as long as you live your life, you are
worshiping a god or God.
There you go again redefining words. Provide evidence that your god
exists or your words mean nothing.
I have done exactly that. I have provided a whole list of God's
spiritual evidence.
I have provided a whole list of evidence for flubdescrunts, yet you
are still blind to them.
There are none so blind as those who refuse to see . . . .
God's spiritual evidence is not just something for you to see. It's also
something for you to know and understand through your personal
experience. The spiritual things can't really be seen with eyes. They
can only be experienced in real life.
Hey! I've had a personal experience.
It told me that you owe me $65 million.
I know and understand this.
I have spiritual evidence for this debt.
When are you going to repay me?
--
Smiler,
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All gods are tailored to order. They're made to
exactly fit the prejudices of their believers.
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2017-04-24 23:21:45 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the lack of
them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just indicates a
situation in which no real theist exists.
-- https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
How about this: an atheist is someone who doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is worshipped. If not
worshipped, then not a god; if not a person, then not a god (and
worship is personal anyway); if not supernatural, then not a god.
Not a real god.
Not good enough. Life is worship. The way you live your life is what
worship is all about. Regardless whether you are consciously aware of
the concept of god, as long as you live your life, you are worshiping
a god or God.
There you go again redefining words. Provide evidence that your god
exists or your words mean nothing.
I have done exactly that. I have provided a whole list of God's
spiritual evidence.
I have provided a whole list of evidence for flubdescrunts, yet you are
still blind to them.
...in fact, you can get those at McDonalds. Not bad. A little on the
dungy side.
Smiler
2017-04-25 03:48:13 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the lack
of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just indicates a
situation in which no real theist exists.
-- https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
How about this: an atheist is someone who doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is worshipped. If not
worshipped, then not a god; if not a person, then not a god (and
worship is personal anyway); if not supernatural, then not a god.
Not a real god.
Not good enough. Life is worship. The way you live your life is what
worship is all about. Regardless whether you are consciously aware
of the concept of god, as long as you live your life, you are
worshiping a god or God.
There you go again redefining words. Provide evidence that your god
exists or your words mean nothing.
I have done exactly that. I have provided a whole list of God's
spiritual evidence.
I have provided a whole list of evidence for flubdescrunts, yet you are
still blind to them.
...in fact, you can get those at McDonalds. Not bad. A little on the
dungy side.
They're not readily available here. I have to import them from the US.
--
Smiler,
The godless one. a.a.# 2279
All gods are tailored to order. They're made to
exactly fit the prejudices of their believers.
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the
lack of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just
indicates a situation in which no real theist exists.
-- https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
How about this: an atheist is someone who doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is worshipped. If not
worshipped, then not a god; if not a person, then not a god (and
worship is personal anyway); if not supernatural, then not a god.
Not a real god.
Not good enough. Life is worship. The way you live your life is
what worship is all about. Regardless whether you are consciously
aware of the concept of god, as long as you live your life, you are
worshiping a god or God.
There you go again redefining words. Provide evidence that your god
exists or your words mean nothing.
I have done exactly that.
That's a lie.
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I have provided a whole list of God's
spiritual evidence.
There's no such thing as "spiritual evidence"?
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the
lack of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just
indicates a situation in which no real theist exists.
-- https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
How about this: an atheist is someone who doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is worshipped. If not
worshipped, then not a god; if not a person, then not a god (and
worship is personal anyway); if not supernatural, then not a god.
Not a real god.
Not good enough. Life is worship. The way you live your life is
what worship is all about. Regardless whether you are consciously
aware of the concept of god, as long as you live your life, you are
worshiping a god or God.
There you go again redefining words. Provide evidence that your god
exists or your words mean nothing.
I have done exactly that.
That's a lie.
Not really.
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Post by aaa
I have provided a whole list of God's
spiritual evidence.
There's no such thing as "spiritual evidence"?
Yet, I did write a whole list of them.
Jeanne Douglas
2017-04-25 02:38:39 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the
lack of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just
indicates a situation in which no real theist exists.
-- https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
How about this: an atheist is someone who doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is worshipped. If not
worshipped, then not a god; if not a person, then not a god (and
worship is personal anyway); if not supernatural, then not a god.
Not a real god.
Not good enough. Life is worship. The way you live your life is
what worship is all about. Regardless whether you are consciously
aware of the concept of god, as long as you live your life, you are
worshiping a god or God.
There you go again redefining words. Provide evidence that your god
exists or your words mean nothing.
I have done exactly that.
That's a lie.
Not really.
Of course it is.
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I have provided a whole list of God's
spiritual evidence.
There's no such thing as "spiritual evidence"?
Yet, I did write a whole list of them.
Not one of which is evidence of any kind.
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the lack
of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just indicates a
situation in which no real theist exists.
-- https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
How about this: an atheist is someone who doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is worshipped. If not
worshipped, then not a god; if not a person, then not a god (and
worship is personal anyway); if not supernatural, then not a god.
Not a real god.
Not good enough. Life is worship. The way you live your life is what
worship is all about. Regardless whether you are consciously aware
of the concept of god, as long as you live your life, you are
worshiping a god or God.
There you go again redefining words. Provide evidence that your god
exists or your words mean nothing.
I have done exactly that.
That's a lie.
Not really.
Yes, really.
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I have provided a whole list of God's spiritual evidence.
There's no such thing as "spiritual evidence"?
Yet, I did write a whole list of them.
A whole list of your deluded, unevidenced assertions doesn't add up to a
jot of evidence.
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2017-04-24 20:08:21 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the
lack of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just
indicates a situation in which no real theist exists.
-- https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
How about this: an atheist is someone who doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is worshipped. If not
worshipped, then not a god; if not a person, then not a god (and
worship is personal anyway); if not supernatural, then not a god.
Not a real god.
Not good enough. Life is worship. The way you live your life is
what worship is all about. Regardless whether you are consciously
aware of the concept of god, as long as you live your life, you are
worshiping a god or God.
There you go again redefining words. Provide evidence that your god
exists or your words mean nothing.
I have done exactly that. I have provided a whole list of God's
spiritual evidence.
There is no spiritual evidence. That is all in your deranged mind.
The second you said 'spiritual', you lost every atheist in this newsgroup.
You can say 'spiritual' a thousand times, but it will not help you or any
other theist.
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2017-04-24 20:34:10 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the
lack of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just
indicates a situation in which no real theist exists.
-- https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
How about this: an atheist is someone who doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is worshipped. If not
worshipped, then not a god; if not a person, then not a god (and
worship is personal anyway); if not supernatural, then not a god.
Not a real god.
Not good enough. Life is worship. The way you live your life is
what worship is all about. Regardless whether you are consciously
aware of the concept of god, as long as you live your life, you are
worshiping a god or God.
There you go again redefining words. Provide evidence that your god
exists or your words mean nothing.
I have done exactly that. I have provided a whole list of God's
spiritual evidence.
There is no spiritual evidence. That is all in your deranged mind.
The second you said 'spiritual', you lost every atheist in this
newsgroup. You can say 'spiritual' a thousand times, but it will not
help you or any other theist.
why are you always so miserable
Jeanne Douglas
2017-04-25 02:45:19 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the
lack of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just
indicates a situation in which no real theist exists.
-- https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
How about this: an atheist is someone who doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is worshipped. If not
worshipped, then not a god; if not a person, then not a god (and
worship is personal anyway); if not supernatural, then not a god.
Not a real god.
Not good enough. Life is worship. The way you live your life is
what worship is all about. Regardless whether you are consciously
aware of the concept of god, as long as you live your life, you are
worshiping a god or God.
There you go again redefining words. Provide evidence that your god
exists or your words mean nothing.
I have done exactly that. I have provided a whole list of God's
spiritual evidence.
There is no spiritual evidence. That is all in your deranged mind.
The second you said 'spiritual', you lost every atheist in this
newsgroup. You can say 'spiritual' a thousand times, but it will not
help you or any other theist.
why are you always so miserable
What misery?
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2017-04-24 22:39:18 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the
lack of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just
indicates a situation in which no real theist exists.
-- https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
How about this: an atheist is someone who doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is worshipped. If not
worshipped, then not a god; if not a person, then not a god (and
worship is personal anyway); if not supernatural, then not a god.
Not a real god.
Not good enough. Life is worship. The way you live your life is
what worship is all about. Regardless whether you are consciously
aware of the concept of god, as long as you live your life, you are
worshiping a god or God.
There you go again redefining words. Provide evidence that your god
exists or your words mean nothing.
I have done exactly that. I have provided a whole list of God's
spiritual evidence.
There is no spiritual evidence. That is all in your deranged mind.
The second you said 'spiritual', you lost every atheist in this newsgroup.
You can say 'spiritual' a thousand times, but it will not help you or any
other theist.
That only shows your ignorance of spiritual. All human emotions are
spiritual. All human knowledge are also spiritual. The human mind is
spiritual. Life itself is spiritual. Consciousness and intelligence are
also spiritual. If you deny all these things, you will have nothing left
to identify yourself to be different from a piece of lifeless rock.
Jeanne Douglas
2017-04-25 02:45:00 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the
lack of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just
indicates a situation in which no real theist exists.
-- https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
How about this: an atheist is someone who doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is worshipped. If not
worshipped, then not a god; if not a person, then not a god (and
worship is personal anyway); if not supernatural, then not a god.
Not a real god.
Not good enough. Life is worship. The way you live your life is
what worship is all about. Regardless whether you are consciously
aware of the concept of god, as long as you live your life, you are
worshiping a god or God.
There you go again redefining words. Provide evidence that your god
exists or your words mean nothing.
I have done exactly that. I have provided a whole list of God's
spiritual evidence.
There is no spiritual evidence. That is all in your deranged mind.
The second you said 'spiritual', you lost every atheist in this newsgroup.
You can say 'spiritual' a thousand times, but it will not help you or any
other theist.
That only shows your ignorance of spiritual. All human emotions are
spiritual.
Nope. They most certainly are not.
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All human knowledge are also spiritual.
Nope. They most certainly are not.
Post by aaa
The human mind is
spiritual.
Nope. They most certainly are not.
Post by aaa
Life itself is spiritual.
Nope. They most certainly are not.
Post by aaa
Consciousness and intelligence are
also spiritual.
Nope. They most certainly are not.
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If you deny all these things,
If you accept all these things, you are completely insane.
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2017-04-25 16:07:06 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the
lack of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just
indicates a situation in which no real theist exists.
-- https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
How about this: an atheist is someone who doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is worshipped. If not
worshipped, then not a god; if not a person, then not a god (and
worship is personal anyway); if not supernatural, then not a god.
Not a real god.
Not good enough. Life is worship. The way you live your life is
what worship is all about. Regardless whether you are consciously
aware of the concept of god, as long as you live your life, you are
worshiping a god or God.
There you go again redefining words. Provide evidence that your god
exists or your words mean nothing.
I have done exactly that. I have provided a whole list of God's
spiritual evidence.
There is no spiritual evidence. That is all in your deranged mind.
The second you said 'spiritual', you lost every atheist in this newsgroup.
You can say 'spiritual' a thousand times, but it will not help you or any
other theist.
That only shows your ignorance of spiritual. All human emotions are
spiritual.
Nope. They most certainly are not.
Post by aaa
All human knowledge are also spiritual.
Nope. They most certainly are not.
Post by aaa
The human mind is
spiritual.
Nope. They most certainly are not.
Post by aaa
Life itself is spiritual.
Nope. They most certainly are not.
Post by aaa
Consciousness and intelligence are
also spiritual.
Nope. They most certainly are not.
Post by aaa
If you deny all these things,
If you accept all these things, you are completely insane.
There is no surprise. All you can have is just blind denial.
Jeanne Douglas
2017-04-26 03:32:43 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the
lack of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just
indicates a situation in which no real theist exists.
-- https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
How about this: an atheist is someone who doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is worshipped. If not
worshipped, then not a god; if not a person, then not a god (and
worship is personal anyway); if not supernatural, then not a god.
Not a real god.
Not good enough. Life is worship. The way you live your life is
what worship is all about. Regardless whether you are consciously
aware of the concept of god, as long as you live your life, you are
worshiping a god or God.
There you go again redefining words. Provide evidence that your god
exists or your words mean nothing.
I have done exactly that. I have provided a whole list of God's
spiritual evidence.
There is no spiritual evidence. That is all in your deranged mind.
The second you said 'spiritual', you lost every atheist in this newsgroup.
You can say 'spiritual' a thousand times, but it will not help you or any
other theist.
That only shows your ignorance of spiritual. All human emotions are
spiritual.
Nope. They most certainly are not.
Post by aaa
All human knowledge are also spiritual.
Nope. They most certainly are not.
Post by aaa
The human mind is
spiritual.
Nope. They most certainly are not.
Post by aaa
Life itself is spiritual.
Nope. They most certainly are not.
Post by aaa
Consciousness and intelligence are
also spiritual.
Nope. They most certainly are not.
Post by aaa
If you deny all these things,
If you accept all these things, you are completely insane.
There is no surprise. All you can have is just blind denial.
Nope. I have the evidence that proves how insane you are.
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Jeanne Douglas
2017-04-23 03:52:32 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the lack
of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just indicates a
situation in which no real theist exists.
--
https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
How about this: an atheist is someone who
doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is
worshipped. If not worshipped, then not a god;
if not a person, then not a god (and worship is
personal anyway); if not supernatural, then
not a god. Not a real god.
Not good enough. Life is worship. The way you live your life is what
worship is all about. Regardless whether you are consciously aware of
the concept of god, as long as you live your life, you are worshiping a
god or God.
Bullshit.
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the lack
of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just indicates a
situation in which no real theist exists.
--
https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
How about this: an atheist is someone who
doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is
worshipped. If not worshipped, then not a god;
if not a person, then not a god (and worship is
personal anyway); if not supernatural, then
not a god. Not a real god.
Not good enough. Life is worship. The way you live your life is what
worship is all about. Regardless whether you are consciously aware of
the concept of god, as long as you live your life, you are worshiping a
god or God.
Bullshit.
That's blind denial.
Hope Simmers
2017-04-23 15:04:23 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the lack
of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just indicates a
situation in which no real theist exists.
--
https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
How about this: an atheist is someone who
doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is
worshipped. If not worshipped, then not a god;
if not a person, then not a god (and worship is
personal anyway); if not supernatural, then
not a god. Not a real god.
Not good enough. Life is worship. The way you live your life is what
worship is all about. Regardless whether you are consciously aware of
the concept of god, as long as you live your life, you are worshiping a
god or God.
Bullshit.
That's blind denial.
(shrug) "Blind denial" is acceptable when one is confronted with inane, blind assertions.
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2017-04-24 07:48:57 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the lack
of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just indicates a
situation in which no real theist exists.
--
https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
How about this: an atheist is someone who
doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is
worshipped. If not worshipped, then not a god;
if not a person, then not a god (and worship is
personal anyway); if not supernatural, then
not a god. Not a real god.
Not good enough. Life is worship. The way you live your life is what
worship is all about. Regardless whether you are consciously aware of
the concept of god, as long as you live your life, you are worshiping a
god or God.
Bullshit.
That's blind denial.
(shrug) "Blind denial" is acceptable when one is confronted with inane, blind assertions.
That would be your own misunderstanding.
Hope Simmers
2017-04-24 18:27:09 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the lack
of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just indicates a
situation in which no real theist exists.
--
https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
How about this: an atheist is someone who
doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is
worshipped. If not worshipped, then not a god;
if not a person, then not a god (and worship is
personal anyway); if not supernatural, then
not a god. Not a real god.
Not good enough. Life is worship. The way you live your life is what
worship is all about. Regardless whether you are consciously aware of
the concept of god, as long as you live your life, you are worshiping a
god or God.
Bullshit.
That's blind denial.
(shrug) "Blind denial" is acceptable when one is confronted with inane, blind assertions.
That would be your own misunderstanding.
I am sorry, young grasshopper, but the misunderstanding is yours. When you have studied philosophy/religion/spirituality for as many decades as I have, you will understand the error of your current conclusions.

Don't give up!
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or
the lack of them in someone who thinks he is a theist,
it just indicates a situation in which no real theist
exists.
-- https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
How about this: an atheist is someone who doesn't worship
gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is worshipped.
If not worshipped, then not a god; if not a person, then
not a god (and worship is personal anyway); if not
supernatural, then not a god. Not a real god.
Not good enough. Life is worship. The way you live your
life is what worship is all about. Regardless whether you
are consciously aware of the concept of god, as long as you
live your life, you are worshiping a god or God.
Bullshit.
That's blind denial.
(shrug) "Blind denial" is acceptable when one is confronted with
inane, blind assertions.
That would be your own misunderstanding.
I am sorry, young grasshopper, but the misunderstanding is yours.
I don't see how that is possible since you have only made an empty claim.
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When you have studied philosophy/religion/spirituality for as many
decades as I have, you will understand the error of your current
conclusions.
You still have not proved your claim that my understanding of the word
worship to be any kind of blind assertions.
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Don't give up!
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the lack
of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just indicates a
situation in which no real theist exists.
--
https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
How about this: an atheist is someone who
doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is
worshipped. If not worshipped, then not a god;
if not a person, then not a god (and worship is
personal anyway); if not supernatural, then
not a god. Not a real god.
Not good enough. Life is worship. The way you live your life is what
worship is all about. Regardless whether you are consciously aware of
the concept of god, as long as you live your life, you are worshiping a
god or God.
Bullshit.
That's blind denial.
Of course it isn't. It's based on the complete lack of testable evidence.
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the lack
of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just indicates a
situation in which no real theist exists.
--
https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
How about this: an atheist is someone who
doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is
worshipped. If not worshipped, then not a god;
if not a person, then not a god (and worship is
personal anyway); if not supernatural, then
not a god. Not a real god.
Not good enough. Life is worship. The way you live your life is what
worship is all about. Regardless whether you are consciously aware of
the concept of god, as long as you live your life, you are worshiping a
god or God.
Bullshit.
That's blind denial.
Of course it isn't. It's based on the complete lack of testable evidence.
That sounds like your old atheist mantra. Do you want to discuss the
actual issue in the above instead?
Jeanne Douglas
2017-04-25 02:47:30 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the lack
of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just indicates a
situation in which no real theist exists.
--
https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
How about this: an atheist is someone who
doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is
worshipped. If not worshipped, then not a god;
if not a person, then not a god (and worship is
personal anyway); if not supernatural, then
not a god. Not a real god.
Not good enough. Life is worship. The way you live your life is what
worship is all about. Regardless whether you are consciously aware of
the concept of god, as long as you live your life, you are worshiping a
god or God.
Bullshit.
That's blind denial.
Of course it isn't. It's based on the complete lack of testable evidence.
That sounds like your old atheist mantra. Do you want to discuss the
actual issue in the above instead?
There are no issues, actual or otherwise, above.
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the lack
of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just indicates a
situation in which no real theist exists.
--
https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
How about this: an atheist is someone who
doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is
worshipped. If not worshipped, then not a god;
if not a person, then not a god (and worship is
personal anyway); if not supernatural, then
not a god. Not a real god.
Not good enough. Life is worship. The way you live your life is what
worship is all about. Regardless whether you are consciously aware of
the concept of god, as long as you live your life, you are worshiping a
god or God.
Life is not worship. Life is living. You seem to delight in redefining
words to please yourself. This isn't Wonderland. It's the real world.
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the lack
of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just indicates a
situation in which no real theist exists.
--
https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
How about this: an atheist is someone who
doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is
worshipped. If not worshipped, then not a god;
if not a person, then not a god (and worship is
personal anyway); if not supernatural, then
not a god. Not a real god.
Not good enough. Life is worship. The way you live your life is what
worship is all about. Regardless whether you are consciously aware of
the concept of god, as long as you live your life, you are worshiping a
god or God.
Life is not worship. Life is living. You seem to delight in redefining
words to please yourself. This isn't Wonderland. It's the real world.
My simple understanding is clear for you to see and understand. Too bad
you don't like it.
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the lack
of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just indicates a
situation in which no real theist exists.
--
https://archive.org/services/purl/bahai
How about this: an atheist is someone who
doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is
worshipped. If not worshipped, then not a god;
if not a person, then not a god (and worship is
personal anyway); if not supernatural, then
not a god. Not a real god.
That may work in a Discworld book but not in real life. Just not
worshipping something isn't saying that something doesn't exist.
Hard atheism says that a god or gods don't exist. Weak atheism
says that the atheist lacks belief in the existence of a god or
gods. Both are negative. Neither is agnostic.
Robert Carnegie
2017-04-24 19:57:45 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the lack
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situation in which no real theist exists.
--
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How about this: an atheist is someone who
doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is
worshipped. If not worshipped, then not a god;
if not a person, then not a god (and worship is
personal anyway); if not supernatural, then
not a god. Not a real god.
That may work in a Discworld book but not in real life. Just not
worshipping something isn't saying that something doesn't exist.
Hard atheism says that a god or gods don't exist. Weak atheism
says that the atheist lacks belief in the existence of a god or
gods. Both are negative. Neither is agnostic.
Being a god requires more than existing.
The word "god" actually means being worshipped.
If a man isn't married then he is not a husband,
and if a supernatural being isn't worshipped
then she isn't a god.

That way, things make sense. Imagining a
mysterious creator "god" that nobody knows
about, but whose existence prevents you from
being an atheist, does not make sense.
The reasonable position to take is that
the unknown being, by being unknown,
isn't a god.
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Being a god requires more than existing.
The word "god" actually means being worshipped.
If a man isn't married then he is not a husband,
and if a supernatural being isn't worshipped
then she isn't a god.
That way, things make sense. Imagining a
mysterious creator "god" that nobody knows
about, but whose existence prevents you from
being an atheist, does not make sense.
The reasonable position to take is that
the unknown being, by being unknown,
isn't a god.
The problem with that is that human language is not expressive enough to
distinguish between someone who acts contrary to the wishes God, as
opposed to someone who simply disobeys somebody else.

Hence the common definition of a "strong atheist" as being one who denies
God, has no real corresponding word in any language. Rather the strong
atheist is one who lacks belief in any and all gods, the weak version
being one who lacks belief in one or two depending on the circumstances.
Rather than say that they are not worshippers of God, it would be more
correct to say that they worship something else (this is what
distinguishes them from an agnostic, for whom the object of worship
remains in any case beyond the reach and ken of the worshipper).
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Christopher A. Lee
2017-04-24 20:02:08 UTC
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On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 12:33:06 -0700 (PDT), hypatiab7
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Post by ernobe
Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the lack
of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just indicates a
situation in which no real theist exists.
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How about this: an atheist is someone who
doesn't worship gods.
And, a god is a supernatural person that is
worshipped. If not worshipped, then not a god;
if not a person, then not a god (and worship is
personal anyway); if not supernatural, then
not a god. Not a real god.
That may work in a Discworld book but not in real life. Just not
worshipping something isn't saying that something doesn't exist.
Hard atheism says that a god or gods don't exist. Weak atheism
says that the atheist lacks belief in the existence of a god or
gods. Both are negative. Neither is agnostic.
The problem is that theists understand neither hard nor weak atheism,
because they can't get their minds around the idea of gods being
merely somebody else's religious belief.

Their minds switch off and reboot before they can even think about it,
as a subconscious defence mechanism.
b***@m.nu
2017-04-21 10:47:04 UTC
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Post by ernobe
Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the lack
of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just indicates a
situation in which no real theist exists.
You are making this way more difficult that it actually is.

Atheism is the lack of belief in fairies/gods
raven1
2017-04-21 12:33:35 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the lack
of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just indicates a
situation in which no real theist exists.
Um, what?
duke
2017-04-23 15:35:52 UTC
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Atheism is not a personal belief in lacking beliefs, or the lack
of them in someone who thinks he is a theist, it just indicates a
situation in which no real theist exists.
How do you know?

the dukester, American-American

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