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What's keeping Jesus from coming back?
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Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
2018-04-03 07:05:34 UTC
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Is it that things R not bad enough or that he's taking a comfy vacation somewhere in cloud nine?

I think Christians deserve some answers.

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2018-04-03 14:38:17 UTC
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Is it that things R not bad enough or that he's taking a comfy vacation somewhere in cloud nine?
I think Christians deserve some answers.
...what's keeping Jesus from coming back is that he never existed in
the first place. Of course, that won't deter Christians, smitten with
the false promise of paradise, from swallowing the salvation scam,
hook line and sinker.
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2018-04-03 14:43:46 UTC
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Is it that things R not bad enough or that he's taking a comfy vacation somewhere in cloud nine?
I think Christians deserve some answers.
...what's keeping Jesus from coming back is that he never existed in
the first place. Of course, that won't deter Christians, smitten with
the false promise of paradise, from swallowing the salvation scam,
hook line and sinker.
WTMMHP likes to ask rhetorical questions, with humor.

[Or alleged humor. YMMV.]

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2018-04-06 03:37:25 UTC
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He has to stay 5000 light years away.
Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
2018-04-06 04:53:00 UTC
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He has to stay 5000 light years away.
He's lost in space. It wouldn't be easy to find your way in the universe.
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2018-04-03 15:49:24 UTC
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Uh, He's dead.

But if he WERE to come back, I'd bet one of the first things He'd do is take a long healthy piss all over those theists who've invaded this forum in His name; those who've defiantly rejected his command to not preach where neither they NOR their words are wanted.

They've made a complete mockery of the more noble aspects of the Christian religion.
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2018-04-04 12:49:50 UTC
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Uh, He's dead.
Uh, no. He walked and talked and ate and drank with 500 of his friends for 40
days after the resurrection before he ascended to the Father in heaven.

As he rose by the power of God, we too that died in his friendship will also
rise.

Gosh, think of what you gave up in your ignorance.
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But if he WERE to come back, I'd bet one of the first things He'd do is take a long healthy piss all over those theists who've invaded this forum in His name; those who've defiantly rejected his command to not preach where neither they NOR their words are wanted.
No, he already said to collect all the souls of those that died in his
friendship.

Guess you won't be included.
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They've made a complete mockery of the more noble aspects of the Christian religion.
Then why are you the confused one?

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2018-04-04 22:20:07 UTC
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Uh, He's dead.
Uh, no. He walked and talked and ate and drank with 500 of his friends for 40
days after the resurrection before he ascended to the Father in heaven.
As he rose by the power of God, we too that died in his friendship will also
rise.
Gosh, think of what you gave up in your ignorance.
Post by Greywolf
But if he WERE to come back, I'd bet one of the first things He'd do is take a long healthy piss all over those theists who've invaded this forum in His name; those who've defiantly rejected his command to not preach where neither they NOR their words are wanted.
No, he already said to collect all the souls of those that died in his
friendship.
Guess you won't be included.
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They've made a complete mockery of the more noble aspects of the Christian religion.
Then why are you the confused one?
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2018-04-05 20:13:41 UTC
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Uh, He's dead.
Uh, no. He walked and talked and ate and drank with 500 of his friends for 40
days after the resurrection before he ascended to the Father in heaven.
As he rose by the power of God, we too that died in his friendship will also
rise.
Gosh, think of what you gave up in your ignorance.
Post by Greywolf
But if he WERE to come back, I'd bet one of the first things He'd do is take a long healthy piss all over those theists who've invaded this forum in His name; those who've defiantly rejected his command to not preach where neither they NOR their words are wanted.
No, he already said to collect all the souls of those that died in his
friendship.
Guess you won't be included.
Post by Greywolf
They've made a complete mockery of the more noble aspects of the Christian religion.
Then why are you the confused one?
Did anyone see a turd lying around here? Oh, there it is! Hey there, duke. You old lying Son of a B, you. I see you're every bit as mentally retarded as ever.
there you go, grey. Still taking a major ass kicking on your garbage writings,
and all you can do is cry "please go away, duke".

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2018-04-05 22:58:16 UTC
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Uh, He's dead.
Uh, no. He walked and talked and ate and drank with 500 of his friends for 40
days after the resurrection before he ascended to the Father in heaven.
As he rose by the power of God, we too that died in his friendship will also
rise.
Gosh, think of what you gave up in your ignorance.
Post by Greywolf
But if he WERE to come back, I'd bet one of the first things He'd do is take a long healthy piss all over those theists who've invaded this forum in His name; those who've defiantly rejected his command to not preach where neither they NOR their words are wanted.
No, he already said to collect all the souls of those that died in his
friendship.
Guess you won't be included.
Post by Greywolf
They've made a complete mockery of the more noble aspects of the Christian religion.
Then why are you the confused one?
Did anyone see a turd lying around here? Oh, there it is! Hey there, duke. You old lying Son of a B, you. I see you're every bit as mentally retarded as ever.
there you go, grey. Still taking a major ass kicking on your garbage writings,
and all you can do is cry "please go away, duke".
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Why, duke, Matthew 10:14 is absolutely *begging* you to "go away, duke"!

What's the matter, your Lord Jesus' pay-grade too insufficient to heed His command?

Does it have to come straight from that "other" imaginary God, God the Father's lips to your sorry ass in order for you to obey them?
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2018-04-05 23:01:16 UTC
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Uh, He's dead.
Uh, no. He walked and talked and ate and drank with 500 of his friends for 40
days after the resurrection before he ascended to the Father in heaven.
As he rose by the power of God, we too that died in his friendship will also
rise.
Gosh, think of what you gave up in your ignorance.
Post by Greywolf
But if he WERE to come back, I'd bet one of the first things He'd do is take a long healthy piss all over those theists who've invaded this forum in His name; those who've defiantly rejected his command to not preach where neither they NOR their words are wanted.
No, he already said to collect all the souls of those that died in his
friendship.
Guess you won't be included.
Post by Greywolf
They've made a complete mockery of the more noble aspects of the Christian religion.
Then why are you the confused one?
Did anyone see a turd lying around here? Oh, there it is! Hey there, duke. You old lying Son of a B, you. I see you're every bit as mentally retarded as ever.
there you go, grey. Still taking a major ass kicking on your garbage writings,
and all you can do is cry "please go away, duke".
the dukester, American-American
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Why, duke, Matthew 10:14 is absolutely *begging* you to "go away, duke"!
What's the matter, your Lord Jesus' pay-grade too insufficient to heed His command?
Does it have to come straight from that "other" imaginary God, God the Father's lips to your sorry ass in order for you to obey them?
no one obeys anyone
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2018-04-06 21:10:20 UTC
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Uh, He's dead.
Uh, no. He walked and talked and ate and drank with 500 of his friends for 40
days after the resurrection before he ascended to the Father in heaven.
As he rose by the power of God, we too that died in his friendship will also
rise.
Gosh, think of what you gave up in your ignorance.
Post by Greywolf
But if he WERE to come back, I'd bet one of the first things He'd do is take a long healthy piss all over those theists who've invaded this forum in His name; those who've defiantly rejected his command to not preach where neither they NOR their words are wanted.
No, he already said to collect all the souls of those that died in his
friendship.
Guess you won't be included.
Post by Greywolf
They've made a complete mockery of the more noble aspects of the Christian religion.
Then why are you the confused one?
Did anyone see a turd lying around here? Oh, there it is! Hey there, duke. You old lying Son of a B, you. I see you're every bit as mentally retarded as ever.
there you go, grey. Still taking a major ass kicking on your garbage writings,
and all you can do is cry "please go away, duke".
the dukester, American-American
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the OT,but instead, to tell even *bigger* whoppers! But, then again, that' hardly possible. Isn't it?
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Why, duke, Matthew 10:14 is absolutely *begging* you to "go away, duke"!
What's the matter, your Lord Jesus' pay-grade too insufficient to heed His command?
Does it have to come straight from that "other" imaginary God, God the Father's lips to your sorry ass in order for you to obey them?
no one obeys anyone
Grey wants the fires of hell so bad that he'll do anything to achieve it.

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2018-04-06 21:09:42 UTC
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Uh, He's dead.
Uh, no. He walked and talked and ate and drank with 500 of his friends for 40
days after the resurrection before he ascended to the Father in heaven.
As he rose by the power of God, we too that died in his friendship will also
rise.
Gosh, think of what you gave up in your ignorance.
Post by Greywolf
But if he WERE to come back, I'd bet one of the first things He'd do is take a long healthy piss all over those theists who've invaded this forum in His name; those who've defiantly rejected his command to not preach where neither they NOR their words are wanted.
No, he already said to collect all the souls of those that died in his
friendship.
Guess you won't be included.
Post by Greywolf
They've made a complete mockery of the more noble aspects of the Christian religion.
Then why are you the confused one?
Did anyone see a turd lying around here? Oh, there it is! Hey there, duke. You old lying Son of a B, you. I see you're every bit as mentally retarded as ever.
there you go, grey. Still taking a major ass kicking on your garbage writings,
and all you can do is cry "please go away, duke".
Why, duke, Matthew 10:14 is absolutely *begging* you to "go away, duke"!
Matthew 10:14 New International Version (NIV)
14 If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or
town and shake the dust off your feet.
Post by Greywolf
What's the matter, your Lord Jesus' pay-grade too insufficient to heed His command?
Because you're too stupid to understand the statement.

1. Jesus sent them out to these places.
2. If these places acted like atheists and turned them out, then,.......
3. Shake the sand form your sandals in condemnation of them.

You are condemned.
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Does it have to come straight from that "other" imaginary God, God the Father's lips to your sorry ass in order for you to obey them?
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2018-04-07 00:58:58 UTC
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Uh, He's dead.
Uh, no. He walked and talked and ate and drank with 500 of his friends for 40
days after the resurrection before he ascended to the Father in heaven.
As he rose by the power of God, we too that died in his friendship will also
rise.
Gosh, think of what you gave up in your ignorance.
Post by Greywolf
But if he WERE to come back, I'd bet one of the first things He'd do is take a long healthy piss all over those theists who've invaded this forum in His name; those who've defiantly rejected his command to not preach where neither they NOR their words are wanted.
No, he already said to collect all the souls of those that died in his
friendship.
Guess you won't be included.
Post by Greywolf
They've made a complete mockery of the more noble aspects of the Christian religion.
Then why are you the confused one?
Did anyone see a turd lying around here? Oh, there it is! Hey there, duke. You old lying Son of a B, you. I see you're every bit as mentally retarded as ever.
there you go, grey. Still taking a major ass kicking on your garbage writings,
and all you can do is cry "please go away, duke".
Why, duke, Matthew 10:14 is absolutely *begging* you to "go away, duke"!
Matthew 10:14 New International Version (NIV)
14 If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or
town and shake the dust off your feet.
Post by Greywolf
What's the matter, your Lord Jesus' pay-grade too insufficient to heed His command?
Because you're too stupid to understand the statement.
1. Jesus sent them out to these places.
2. If these places acted like atheists and turned them out, then,.......
3. Shake the sand form your sandals in condemnation of them.
You are condemned.
Hold on there, you seem to be ignoring the part where Jesus' command to his disciples is not to preach where neither they nor their message is wanted.

C'mon, even *you* can understand the underlying "drift" of Jesus' command. Even you.

As for being condemned: Do you really think I give a flyin' Hoot about being condemned by an imaginary God, you Jesus disobey-er, you.

Proud of yourself for defying your Lord Jesus Christ, are you?
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Does it have to come straight from that "other" imaginary God, God the Father's lips to your sorry ass in order for you to obey them?
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Uh, He's dead.
Uh, no. He walked and talked and ate and drank with 500 of his friends for 40
days after the resurrection before he ascended to the Father in heaven.
As he rose by the power of God, we too that died in his friendship will also
rise.
Gosh, think of what you gave up in your ignorance.
Post by Greywolf
But if he WERE to come back, I'd bet one of the first things He'd do is take a long healthy piss all over those theists who've invaded this forum in His name; those who've defiantly rejected his command to not preach where neither they NOR their words are wanted.
No, he already said to collect all the souls of those that died in his
friendship.
Guess you won't be included.
Post by Greywolf
They've made a complete mockery of the more noble aspects of the Christian religion.
Then why are you the confused one?
Did anyone see a turd lying around here? Oh, there it is! Hey there, duke. You old lying Son of a B, you. I see you're every bit as mentally retarded as ever.
there you go, grey. Still taking a major ass kicking on your garbage writings,
and all you can do is cry "please go away, duke".
Why, duke, Matthew 10:14 is absolutely *begging* you to "go away, duke"!
Matthew 10:14 New International Version (NIV)
14 If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or
town and shake the dust off your feet.
Post by Greywolf
What's the matter, your Lord Jesus' pay-grade too insufficient to heed His command?
Because you're too stupid to understand the statement.
1. Jesus sent them out to these places.
2. If these places acted like atheists and turned them out, then,.......
3. Shake the sand form your sandals in condemnation of them.
You are condemned.
Hold on there, you seem to be ignoring the part where Jesus' command to his disciples is not to preach where neither they nor their message is wanted.
Luke 10:1-23 New International Version (NIV)
Jesus Sends Out the Seventy-Two
10 After this the Lord appointed seventy-two[a] others and sent them two by two
ahead of him to every town and place where he was about to go. 2 He told them,
“The harvest is plentiful, but the workers are few. Ask the Lord of the harvest,
therefore, to send out workers into his harvest field. 3 Go! I am sending you
out like lambs among wolves. 4 Do not take a purse or bag or sandals; and do not
greet anyone on the road.

5 “When you enter a house, first say, ‘Peace to this house.’ 6 If someone who
promotes peace is there, your peace will rest on them; if not, it will return to
you. 7 Stay there, eating and drinking whatever they give you, for the worker
deserves his wages. Do not move around from house to house.

8 “When you enter a town and are welcomed, eat what is offered to you. 9 Heal
the sick who are there and tell them, ‘The kingdom of God has come near to you.’
10 But when you enter a town and are not welcomed, go into its streets and say,
11 ‘Even the dust of your town we wipe from our feet as a warning to you. Yet be
sure of this: The kingdom of God has come near.’ 12 I tell you, it will be more
bearable on that day for Sodom than for that town.

13 “Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the miracles that were
performed in you had been performed in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented
long ago, sitting in sackcloth and ashes. 14 But it will be more bearable for
Tyre and Sidon at the judgment than for you. 15 And you, Capernaum, will you be
lifted to the heavens? No, you will go down to Hades.[b]
16 “Whoever listens to you listens to me; whoever rejects you rejects me; but
whoever rejects me rejects him who sent me.”
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C'mon, even *you* can understand the underlying "drift" of Jesus' command. Even you.
I'd say so, but you don't.
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As for being condemned: Do you really think I give a flyin' Hoot about being condemned by an imaginary God, you Jesus disobey-er, you.
Proud of yourself for defying your Lord Jesus Christ, are you?
What defy?
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Does it have to come straight from that "other" imaginary God, God the Father's lips to your sorry ass in order for you to obey them?
Other?? Haahaahaa. Grey, you are a joke.

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Uh, He's dead.
Uh, no. He walked and talked and ate and drank with 500 of his friends for 4 days after the resurrection before he ascended to the Father in heaven.
You mean that other God whose *not* a Man-God? Or do you mean to imply that the other God is now a Man-God too since "God's" ascension into Heaven?
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As he rose by the power of God, we too that died in his friendship will also rise.
You really are nuts. You really are. But I've no clue as to whether or not you actually know you're nuts.
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Gosh, think of what you gave up in your ignorance.
Listen, you retarded nut-job: you're actually promoting worship and adoration of the very being that created very evil itself--and did so KNOWING full-well the utter misery, suffering, and torment it would cause.

You've provided NO account of where evil itself originated. You say God "allowed" evil to enter the world. Well, tell me that was an act of a "loving" God; of a God that loves His earthly children. No, instead you have a diabolically evil God who created very evil itself. And you can't show otherwise.

Tell me how "allowing" evil to enter existence is a "sinless" act. Explain that one.
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But if he WERE to come back, I'd bet one of the first things He'd do is take a long healthy piss all over those theists who've invaded this forum in His name; those who've defiantly rejected his command to not preach where neither they NOR their words are wanted.
No, he already said to collect all the souls of those that died in his
friendship.
Guess you won't be included.
Post by Greywolf
They've made a complete mockery of the more noble aspects of the Christian religion.
Then why are you the confused one?
Did anyone see a turd lying around here? Oh, there it is! Hey there, duke. You old lying Son of a B, you. I see you're every bit as mentally retarded as ever.
there you go, grey. Still taking a major ass kicking on your garbage writings,
and all you can do is cry "please go away, duke".
Why, duke, Matthew 10:14 is absolutely *begging* you to "go away, duke"!
Matthew 10:14 New International Version (NIV)
14 If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or
town and shake the dust off your feet.
Post by Greywolf
What's the matter, your Lord Jesus' pay-grade too insufficient to heed His command?
Because you're too stupid to understand the statement.
1. Jesus sent them out to these places.
2. If these places acted like atheists and turned them out, then,.......
3. Shake the sand form your sandals in condemnation of them.
You are condemned.
Hold on there, you seem to be ignoring the part where Jesus' command to his disciples is not to preach where neither they nor their message is wanted.
Luke 10:1-23 New International Version (NIV)
Jesus Sends Out the Seventy-Two
10 After this the Lord appointed seventy-two[a] others and sent them two by two ahead of him to every town and place where he was about to go.

2 He told them, “The harvest is plentiful, but the workers are few. Ask the Lord of the harvest, therefore, to send out workers into his harvest field. 3 Go! I am sending you out like lambs among wolves.

4 Do not take a purse or bag or sandals; and do not greet anyone on the road.

5 “When you enter a house, first say, ‘Peace to this house.’ 6 If someone who promotes peace is there, your peace will rest on them; if not, it will return to you.

7 Stay there, eating and drinking whatever they give you, for the worker
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deserves his wages. Do not move around from house to house.
8 “When you enter a town and are welcomed, eat what is offered to you. 9 Heal
the sick who are there and tell them, ‘The kingdom of God has come near to you.’

10 But when you enter a town and are not welcomed, go into its streets and say,

11 ‘Even the dust of your town we wipe from our feet as a warning to you. Yet be
sure of this: The kingdom of God has come near.’ 12 I tell you, it will be more bearable on that day for Sodom than for that town.

Okay. Tell us that "Even the dust of your town we wipe from our feet as a warning to you." And then get the fuck outta here!!!
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13 “Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the miracles that were
performed in you had been performed in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago, sitting in sackcloth and ashes.
Woe to those who post stories about "miracles" that never happened in an ATHEIST forum.

14 But it will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon at the judgment than for you.

You mean because of me telling you that you don't belong posting in alt.atheism the *whole* of my town in Wisconsin is going to made to pay it? Well, that's not exactly fair, is it?


15 And you, Capernaum, will you be lifted to the heavens? No, you will go down to Hades.[b]

16 “Whoever listens to you listens to me; whoever rejects you rejects me; but
whoever rejects me rejects him who sent me.”
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C'mon, even *you* can understand the underlying "drift" of Jesus' command. Even you.
I'd say so, but you don't.
Turn back to Matthew 10:14 and tell me that the underlying message is NOT to preach where neither the "preacher" nor his preaching is wanted.

Go ahead and lie some more. You're almost as big a liar as Donald Trump, you know.
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As for being condemned: Do you really think I give a flyin' Hoot about being condemned by an imaginary God, you Jesus disobey-er, you.
Proud of yourself for defying your Lord Jesus Christ, are you?
What defy?
Don't play stupid. Any sane person reading Matthew 10:14 knows that Jesus is essentially saying, "Don't preach where neither you nor your preaching is wanted."

But you want to act dumb so you can defy your Lord Jesus Christ; in effect, saying "Shove it up your pipe-hole, Jesus!"
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Does it have to come straight from that "other" imaginary God, God the Father's lips to your sorry ass in order for you to obey them?
Other?? Haahaahaa. Grey, you are a joke.
Oh, I have fun with you from time to time. But sad to say, you're a "sick" joke. You really are a mentally ill, hopelessly brainwashed loony-toon.

I can only hope that you realize that in enough time to turn your piss-poor legacy into a positive one.
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Listen, you retarded nut-job: you're actually promoting worship and adoration
of the very being that created very evil itself--and did so KNOWING full-well
the utter misery, suffering, and torment it would cause.
He Created *you* to have *freedom* to choose.

It is *wrong* to blame Him for what *you* did.
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Listen, you retarded nut-job: you're actually promoting worship and adoration
of the very being that created very evil itself--and did so KNOWING full-well
the utter misery, suffering, and torment it would cause.
He Created *you* to have *freedom* to choose.
It is *wrong* to blame Him for what *you* did.
___________

Just how dense are you?

You're COMPLETELY ignoring the fact that the God Jesus who you are promoting the worship and adoration of created very evil itself.

And look at you! You consider it "evil" to not worship and adore an imaginary trio of Gods. You also conveniently fail to address how a "loving" God could have possibly created very evil itself and still be seen as being "loving."

Just how goofy in the head are you!

Freedom to choose, you say? Well, God gave Lucifer and the rest of the angels in Heaven the ability to become evil KNOWING, in advance, the outcome of His utterly stupid and monstrous decision.

But you've got a problem when it comes to man. Eve had absolutely no "free-will"
whatsoever in regards to sinning. And that's because evil did not enter her mind, her existence, until AFTER God had the evil serpent trick her into partaking of the forbidden fruit. (Which the evil serpent told Eve was no longer forbidden.)

See here: https://theatheistobserver.wordpress.com/2018/04/05/an-atheists-take-on-what-really-happened-in-the-garden-of-eden/

So if Eve had not a "free-will" as it's come to be defined, she did NOT chose to do evil. Evil had not been a part of her conscious, her existence, until AFTER the fact.

Some "loving" God you have there.

Considering God had Lucifer, an "army" of angels, and Adam & Eve all succumb to "sin" as part of His Divine Plan, don't you think *God* should be blamed for the abject misery, torment, and suffering He needlessly caused?

See this: https://theatheistobserver.wordpress.com/2013/07/03/god-and-evil-yet-another-go-around-part-iii/

And isn't it MORE of a sin to defy Matthew 10:14 and break Charter rules than it is to fail to believe in the existence of a God not a single human being in man's *entire* history has proven real.

*You're* the real "sinner," you diseased, mentally ill, phony Christian. And it's obvious you could give a Flyin' Hoot that you are.
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Listen, you retarded nut-job: you're actually promoting worship and adoration
of the very being that created very evil itself--and did so KNOWING full-well
the utter misery, suffering, and torment it would cause.
He Created *you* to have *freedom* to choose.
It is *wrong* to blame Him for what *you* did.
___________
Just how dense are you?
You're COMPLETELY ignoring the fact that the God Jesus who you are promoting the worship and adoration of created very evil itself.
Grey, you're a nut case.

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Listen, you retarded nut-job: you're actually promoting worship and adoration
of the very being that created very evil itself--and did so KNOWING full-well
the utter misery, suffering, and torment it would cause.
He Created *you* to have *freedom* to choose.
It is *wrong* to blame Him for what *you* did.
I think it was a humanoid called Eve who did that.

Why blame all humans and animals?
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Listen, you retarded nut-job: you're actually promoting worship and adoration
of the very being that created very evil itself--and did so KNOWING full-well
the utter misery, suffering, and torment it would cause.
He Created *you* to have *freedom* to choose.
It is *wrong* to blame Him for what *you* did.
I think it was a humanoid called Eve who did that.
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Why blame all humans and animals?
Because YHWH had serious anger management issues.

As the rest of the Old Testament makes quite clear.

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Tell me how "allowing" evil to enter existence is a "sinless" act. Explain that one.
It has to do with freedom.
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Tell me how "allowing" evil to enter existence is a "sinless" act. Explain that one.
It has to do with freedom.
What freedom?

The Bible says that every single (non-divine) human being who
has ever lived has sinned.

Every one. That's approximately 100,000,000,000 to zero. No exceptions.

A hundred billion to zero is exactly the opposite of freedom.
It's determinism raised to an absolute and iron-clad level.

Selene
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It has to do with freedom.
What freedom?
The Bible says that every single (non-divine) human being who
has ever lived has sinned.
Every one. That's approximately 100,000,000,000 to zero. No exceptions.
A hundred billion to zero is exactly the opposite of freedom.
It's determinism raised to an absolute and iron-clad level.
Moreover, "do what I say, or ypu'll be exterminated (or
tortured for eternity)" is a tyrant's command. Even if one
offers the carrot of paradise with one hand, as long as
the stick of damnation is in the other, Yahooey or any other
"all-powerful" ghod is not selling freedom.

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It has to do with freedom.
What freedom?
The Bible says that every single (non-divine) human being who
has ever lived has sinned.
"There was a man in the land of Uz whose name was
Job; and that man was blameless, upright, fearing God
and turning away from evil." ~ Job 1:1

"When Herod was king of Judea, there was a priest by
the name of Zechariah from the priestly group of Abijah.
His wife Elizabeth was from the family of Aaron. Both
were righteous in God's sight living without blame
according to all the commands and requirements of the
Lord." ~ Luke 1:5,6
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Every one. That's approximately 100,000,000,000
to zero. No exceptions.
A hundred billion to zero is exactly the opposite of freedom.
If God forced everyone to be good, that would be freedom?

No.
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It's determinism raised to an absolute and iron-clad level.
No.
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What freedom?
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The Bible says that every single (non-divine) human being who
has ever lived has sinned.
"There was a man in the land of Uz whose name was
Job; and that man was blameless, upright, fearing God
and turning away from evil." ~ Job 1:1
"When Herod was king of Judea, there was a priest by
the name of Zechariah from the priestly group of Abijah.
His wife Elizabeth was from the family of Aaron. Both
were righteous in God's sight living without blame
according to all the commands and requirements of the
Lord." ~ Luke 1:5,6
" For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God"
~ Romans 3:23

Are you saying Paul got that wrong?
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Every one. That's approximately 100,000,000,000
to zero. No exceptions.
A hundred billion to zero is exactly the opposite of freedom.
If God forced everyone to be good, that would be freedom?
It's not a question of God forcing anyone to do anything;
it's a simple observation that humans, as designed by your God,
inevitably and without exception will sin and can be counted
on to sin.

That is not freedom, that is a flaw built in to the system. By your God.

If you disagree, then answer me this: if someone on this group
claimed that they had never sinned, not one single time in their
entire lives, and furthermore were confident that they would
not sin even once in the rest of their lives, that they would die sinless
and without stain, would you take them at their word?

If not, then why not?


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It's determinism raised to an absolute and iron-clad level.
No.
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It has to do with freedom.
What freedom?
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The Bible says that every single (non-divine) human being who
has ever lived has sinned.
"There was a man in the land of Uz whose name was
Job; and that man was blameless, upright, fearing God
and turning away from evil." ~ Job 1:1
"When Herod was king of Judea, there was a priest by
the name of Zechariah from the priestly group of Abijah.
His wife Elizabeth was from the family of Aaron. Both
were righteous in God's sight living without blame
according to all the commands and requirements of the
Lord." ~ Luke 1:5,6
" For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God"
~ Romans 3:23
Are you saying Paul got that wrong?
It's Christianity 101.
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Every one. That's approximately 100,000,000,000
to zero. No exceptions.
A hundred billion to zero is exactly the opposite of freedom.
If God forced everyone to be good, that would be freedom?
It's not a question of God forcing anyone to do anything;
it's a simple observation that humans, as designed by your God,
inevitably and without exception will sin and can be counted
on to sin.
That is not freedom, that is a flaw built in to the system. By your God.
If you disagree, then answer me this: if someone on this group
claimed that they had never sinned, not one single time in their
entire lives, and furthermore were confident that they would
not sin even once in the rest of their lives, that they would die sinless
and without stain, would you take them at their word?
If not, then why not?
Selene
OMG even Jimmy Swaggart sinned that one time.
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Tell me how "allowing" evil to enter existence is a "sinless" act. Explain that one.
It has to do with freedom.
What freedom?
The Bible says that every single (non-divine) human being who
has ever lived has sinned.
"There was a man in the land of Uz whose name was
Job; and that man was blameless, upright, fearing God
and turning away from evil." ~ Job 1:1
"When Herod was king of Judea, there was a priest by
the name of Zechariah from the priestly group of Abijah.
His wife Elizabeth was from the family of Aaron. Both
were righteous in God's sight living without blame
according to all the commands and requirements of the
Lord." ~ Luke 1:5,6
" For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God"
~ Romans 3:23
Are you saying Paul got that wrong?
No, we live in a "fallen world" and have inherited a fallen nature
but by the grace of God we may be partakers of the divine nature.
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Every one. That's approximately 100,000,000,000
to zero. No exceptions.
A hundred billion to zero is exactly the opposite of freedom.
If God forced everyone to be good, that would be freedom?
It's not a question of God forcing anyone to do anything;
It has to do with freedom.
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it's a simple observation that humans, as designed by your God,
inevitably and without exception will sin and can be counted
on to sin.
No. Man and woman were perfect in their originally created state.
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That is not freedom, that is a flaw built in to the system. By your God.
Although you have inherited a fallen nature God has provided
a plan of salvation.
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If you disagree, then answer me this: if someone on this group
claimed that they had never sinned, not one single time in their
entire lives, and furthermore were confident that they would
not sin even once in the rest of their lives, that they would die sinless
and without stain, would you take them at their word?
That's what atheists foolishly believe.
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If not, then why not?
Because they don't understand.
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Tell me how "allowing" evil to enter existence is a "sinless" act. Explain that one.
It has to do with freedom.
What freedom?
The Bible says that every single (non-divine) human being who
has ever lived has sinned.
"There was a man in the land of Uz whose name was
Job; and that man was blameless, upright, fearing God
and turning away from evil." ~ Job 1:1
"When Herod was king of Judea, there was a priest by
the name of Zechariah from the priestly group of Abijah.
His wife Elizabeth was from the family of Aaron. Both
were righteous in God's sight living without blame
according to all the commands and requirements of the
Lord." ~ Luke 1:5,6
" For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God"
~ Romans 3:23
Are you saying Paul got that wrong?
No, we live in a "fallen world" and have inherited a fallen nature
but by the grace of God we may be partakers of the divine nature.
Then your bringing up Zechariah and Job does not contradict my
claim that every pure human who has ever lived has sinned.
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Every one. That's approximately 100,000,000,000
to zero. No exceptions.
A hundred billion to zero is exactly the opposite of freedom.
If God forced everyone to be good, that would be freedom?
It's not a question of God forcing anyone to do anything;
It has to do with freedom.
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it's a simple observation that humans, as designed by your God,
inevitably and without exception will sin and can be counted
on to sin.
No. Man and woman were perfect in their originally created state.
A state such that when the very first temptation came along,
each succumbed.

That's hardly a perfect design. More like a car that drives
straight into a wall the first time you turn the key.

But are you claiming, in contradiction to Paul, that there have
been people who did not sin?

Or are you claiming that it is quite possible that there are people
walking around today who have never sinned, not once?

And that it's entirely possible that even more people will be born
who will lead lives utterly free of sin, not one sin, not once, not ever?

Yes or no? Because this entire conversation hinges on your
answer to that.


Selene
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That is not freedom, that is a flaw built in to the system. By your God.
Although you have inherited a fallen nature God has provided
a plan of salvation.
Post by s***@gmail.com
If you disagree, then answer me this: if someone on this group
claimed that they had never sinned, not one single time in their
entire lives, and furthermore were confident that they would
not sin even once in the rest of their lives, that they would die sinless
and without stain, would you take them at their word?
That's what atheists foolishly believe.
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If not, then why not?
Because they don't understand.
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Tell me how "allowing" evil to enter existence is a "sinless" act. Explain that one.
It has to do with freedom.
What freedom?
The Bible says that every single (non-divine) human being who
has ever lived has sinned.
"There was a man in the land of Uz whose name was
Job; and that man was blameless, upright, fearing God
and turning away from evil." ~ Job 1:1
"When Herod was king of Judea, there was a priest by
the name of Zechariah from the priestly group of Abijah.
His wife Elizabeth was from the family of Aaron. Both
were righteous in God's sight living without blame
according to all the commands and requirements of the
Lord." ~ Luke 1:5,6
" For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God"
~ Romans 3:23
Are you saying Paul got that wrong?
No, we live in a "fallen world" and have inherited a fallen nature
but by the grace of God we may be partakers of the divine nature.
Then your bringing up Zechariah and Job does not contradict my
claim that every pure human who has ever lived has sinned.
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Every one. That's approximately 100,000,000,000
to zero. No exceptions.
A hundred billion to zero is exactly the opposite of freedom.
If God forced everyone to be good, that would be freedom?
It's not a question of God forcing anyone to do anything;
It has to do with freedom.
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it's a simple observation that humans, as designed by your God,
inevitably and without exception will sin and can be counted
on to sin.
No. Man and woman were perfect in their originally created state.
A state such that when the very first temptation came along,
each succumbed.
That's hardly a perfect design. More like a car that drives
straight into a wall the first time you turn the key.
They were _free_ moral agents.
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But are you claiming, in contradiction to Paul, that there have
been people who did not sin?
Or are you claiming that it is quite possible that there are people
walking around today who have never sinned, not once?
And that it's entirely possible that even more people will be born
who will lead lives utterly free of sin, not one sin, not once, not ever?
No, this has to do with the nature that we
inherited.

In the future realm, and through all future
ages, although there is freedom, there will
be no sin.

Since you have a Bible, read Rev. chapter
21.

Also, there will be no more sorrow, pain
crying or death.
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If you disagree, then answer me this: if someone on this group
claimed that they had never sinned, not one single time in their
entire lives, and furthermore were confident that they would
not sin even once in the rest of their lives, that they would die sinless
and without stain, would you take them at their word?
By bragging about it, the theoretical poster would be
committing the sin of pride, so ***errrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!****
Too, bad! Thanks for playing! We'll be sending you home
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Johnny, who's our next contestant?

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Tell me how "allowing" evil to enter existence is a "sinless" act. Explain that one.
It has to do with freedom.
What freedom?
The Bible says that every single (non-divine) human being who
has ever lived has sinned.
"There was a man in the land of Uz whose name was
Job; and that man was blameless, upright, fearing God
and turning away from evil." ~ Job 1:1
And look at what your "loving" God did working hand-in-hand with Satan to the poor, "blameless" Job.

Here's a snippet taken from my post asking the question, "What Sinless God"?

https://theatheistobserver.wordpress.com/2013/07/03/god-and-evil-yet-another-go-around-part-iii/

"[God,] having that heavy hand in the brutal ” “torture” of faithful Job (cf. Job 2:7), the suffering of Job’s wife, and the needless murder of his seven sons, his three daughters (cf. Job 1:2; 18-19), and nearly every single one of Job’s numerous servants, (cf. Job 1:3; 15-17) was absolutely beyond the pale. In fact, it was evil personified. And who explicitly sanctioned those murders? Oh, that’s right: “Sinless God,”!
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the name of Zechariah from the priestly group of Abijah.
His wife Elizabeth was from the family of Aaron. Both
were righteous in God's sight living without blame
according to all the commands and requirements of the
Lord." ~ Luke 1:5,6
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Every one. That's approximately 100,000,000,000
to zero. No exceptions.
A hundred billion to zero is exactly the opposite of freedom.
If God forced everyone to be good, that would be freedom?
Yes it would. It would be man being free from Evil. What in the Hell do you think Adam & Eve enjoyed in the the Garden of Eden until God used the evil serpent He created to trick Eve into sin?

Why do you feel there has to be evil in the world to exist. Who *knows* how long Adam & Eve lived without knowing about, or caring about an ability to choose to do evil.

Only a sick-ass, sadistic prick would come up with something so devilish as creating very evil itself.

Have you ever wondered how a God perfect in love could even *think* of dreaming-up something so vile as the concept of evil, let alone deliberately unleashing it upon hapless man?

What a sadistic degenerate! And you, you clown, sit in this forum promoting the worship and adoration of the filthy thing.

Do you have diarrhea of the brain or something?
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No.
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It's determinism raised to an absolute and iron-clad level.
No.
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Tell me how "allowing" evil to enter existence is a "sinless" act. Explain that one.
It has to do with freedom.
_______

That in no way accounts for the origin of evil itself.

Seems to me, you've reluctantly accepted the fact that your God Jesus created evil. But you're just as reluctant to admit it here in this forum.

Go ahead, type it out loud: THE GOD JESUS CREATED VERY EVIL ITSELF!

It'll take a big weight off your shoulders. You'd gain a measure of respect for admitting it, you know.
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It has to do with freedom.
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That in no way accounts for the origin of evil itself.
It's you, grey, in your choice away form God.
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Seems to me, you've reluctantly accepted the fact that your God Jesus created evil. But you're just as reluctant to admit it here in this forum.
Go ahead, type it out loud: THE GOD JESUS CREATED VERY EVIL ITSELF!
It'll take a big weight off your shoulders. You'd gain a measure of respect for admitting it, you know.
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It has to do with freedom.
_______
That in no way accounts for the origin of evil itself.
It's you, grey, in your choice away form God.
Damn, how many times are you going to account for the origin of very evil itself by trying to explain it away as being nothing more than a choice? That's not explaining from where evil itself arose.

Do you have a serious case of diarrhea of the brain or something?

Simply explain who created very evil itself.

Hey! I've got an idea! Why don't you *pray* to "God" to give you the answer? He'll, pray that the Cloud of Gas God actually descend upon you and provide you with the answer?

Why, that'd solve your dilemma, wouldn't it?
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Seems to me, you've reluctantly accepted the fact that your God Jesus created evil. But you're just as reluctant to admit it here in this forum.
Go ahead, type it out loud: THE GOD JESUS CREATED VERY EVIL ITSELF!
It'll take a big weight off your shoulders. You'd gain a measure of respect for admitting it, you know.
the dukester, American-American
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Simply explain who created very evil itself.
Who created the substance that is contained
in your posts? You did.

Do your posts contain evil? They certainly
do.

You are the only one responsible for the
evil therein. You did it. You created it.
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Tell me how "allowing" evil to enter existence is a "sinless" act. Explain that one.
It has to do with freedom.
_______
That in no way accounts for the origin of evil itself.
It's you, grey, in your choice away form God.
Damn, how many times are you going to account for the origin of very evil itself by trying to explain it away as being nothing more than a choice? That's not explaining from where evil itself arose.
God allows your temptation. You're the one that chooses it.
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Do you have a serious case of diarrhea of the brain or something?
Simply explain who created very evil itself.
Hey! I've got an idea! Why don't you *pray* to "God" to give you the answer? He'll, pray that the Cloud of Gas God actually descend upon you and provide you with the answer?
I'm already satisfied.
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Why, that'd solve your dilemma, wouldn't it?
I don't have one.


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It has to do with freedom.
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That in no way accounts for the origin of evil itself.
Please give us your definition of the word.
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Seems to me, you've reluctantly accepted the fact that your God Jesus created evil.
But you're just as reluctant to admit it here in this forum.
He created the option for it to be manifested because He
created us as free moral agents.
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Go ahead, type it out loud: THE GOD JESUS CREATED VERY EVIL ITSELF!
The 'God Jesus' provides atonement for your sins.
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It'll take a big weight off your shoulders.
Give it all to Jesus. The big weight you carry will be gone.
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You'd gain a measure of respect for admitting it, you know.
Life. Life. Eternal life.
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Uh, He's dead.
Uh, no. He walked and talked and ate and drank with 500 of his friends for 4 days after the resurrection before he ascended to the Father in heaven.
You mean that other God whose *not* a Man-God? Or do you mean to imply that the other God is now a Man-God too since "God's" ascension into Heaven?
No, all three (3) persons are one God almighty. Good grief but you're dense.
God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
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As he rose by the power of God, we too that died in his friendship will also rise.
You really are nuts. You really are. But I've no clue as to whether or not you actually know you're nuts.
I know for a fact that you are clueless of God.
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Gosh, think of what you gave up in your ignorance.
Listen, you retarded nut-job: you're actually promoting worship and adoration of the very being that created very evil itself--and did so KNOWING full-well the utter misery, suffering, and torment it would cause.
There is no misery, suffering or torment associated with God. That all comes
from the serpent. That's the entire issue - turn from satan and to God.
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You've provided NO account of where evil itself originated. You say God "allowed" evil to enter the world. Well, tell me that was an act of a "loving" God; of a God that loves His earthly children. No, instead you have a diabolically evil God who created very evil itself. And you can't show otherwise.
Tell me how "allowing" evil to enter existence is a "sinless" act. Explain that one.
God wants our choice - Love (God) or evil (temptation). God ALLOWS temptation.
You and your silliness of "creation of evil".

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Uh, He's dead.
Uh, no. He walked and talked and ate and drank with 500 of his friends for 4 days after the resurrection before he ascended to the Father in heaven.
You mean that other God whose *not* a Man-God? Or do you mean to imply that the other God is now a Man-God too since "God's" ascension into Heaven?
No, all three (3) persons are one God almighty. Good grief but you're dense.
God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
Okay, wise guy. You tell me this: Moe, Curly, and Larry are three "persons." Right? Now tell me which of those three persons is the ONE we atheists should view as being all three of em'?

I hope it's Curly. He rotates in circles on the floor when he's "dying."
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As he rose by the power of God, we too that died in his friendship will also rise.
You really are nuts. You really are. But I've no clue as to whether or not you actually know you're nuts.
I know for a fact that you are clueless of God.
Well, I guess that answers *that*! You have no idea as to just how nuts you *really* are.
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Gosh, think of what you gave up in your ignorance.
Listen, you retarded nut-job: you're actually promoting worship and adoration of the very being that created very evil itself--and did so KNOWING full-well the utter misery, suffering, and torment it would cause.
There is no misery, suffering or torment associated with God.
Does the name "Job" ring a bell?

Here's an excerpt from an article I wrote titled, "On God and Evil . . . What "Sinless" God?

" having that heavy hand in the brutal ” “torture” of faithful Job (cf. Job
2:7), the suffering of Job’s *wife*, and the needless murder of his seven sons, his three daughters (cf. Job 1:2; 18-19), and nearly every single one of Job’s numerous servants, (cf. Job 1:3; 15-17) was absolutely beyond the pale. In fact, it was evil personified. And who explicitly sanctioned torture and those murders? Oh, that’s right: “Sinless God,” of course!

And you were saying?

That all comes
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from the serpent.
That wouldn't be that "evil serpent" the God Jesus created and God the Father used in order to trick Eve into sinning, is it?

That's the entire issue - turn from satan and to God.

That wouldn't be the "Satan" the God Jesus created knowing, with absolute certainty, the monstrously catastrophic results that would ensue beforehand, would it?
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You've provided NO account of where evil itself originated. You say God "allowed" evil to enter the world. Well, tell me that was an act of a "loving" God; of a God that loves His earthly children.
No, instead you have a diabolically evil God who created very evil itself. And you can't show otherwise.
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Tell me how "allowing" evil to enter existence is a "sinless" act. Explain that one.
God wants our choice - Love (God) or evil (temptation). God ALLOWS temptation.
Look at you, you freakin' idiot! You've just typed, God wants our *choice*, the choice between Love (God) and "EVIL"!!

For the fucking umpteenth time, explain where that EVIL originated?

Being the sick-fuck you are, you can't be an honest broker and even attempt to explain whence it originated. And the reason why you won't is because you know damn well your Bible points *directly* to the God Jesus as having created it.

Can't you be honest . . . for *once*!
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You and your silliness of "creation of evil".
You've not explained from whence it originated, butt-hole. And we both know why you can't bring yourself to admit from whence it originated.

That being the case, how about cutting out pro religious-based messages until you do?
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Okay, wise guy. You tell me this: Moe, Curly, and Larry are three "persons." Right? Now tell me which of those three persons is the ONE we atheists should view as being all three of em'?
I hope it's Curly. He rotates in circles on the floor when he's "dying."
Moe's Yahooey, as he's angry and vengeful. The Howards and Fines were
Jewish, though, so monotheistts. If they were modeling the Christian
Triune ghod, Curly is Josh, and Larry's the Bird. (Look at the hair....)

Shemp was an angel, once. (1948 - Heavenly Daze)



Curly Joe Derita was Shaitan, of course.

David Steinberg's Stooges theory:



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For the fucking umpteenth time, explain where that EVIL originated?
It originated with the Devil --> John 8:44.

But the "good news" is that..Jesus came to
destroy the works of the Devil (1John 3:8).
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Uh, no. He walked and talked and ate and drank with 500 of his friends for 4 days after the resurrection before he ascended to the Father in heaven.
You mean that other God whose *not* a Man-God? Or do you mean to imply that the other God is now a Man-God too since "God's" ascension into Heaven?
No, all three (3) persons are one God almighty. Good grief but you're dense.
God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
Okay, wise guy. You tell me this: Moe, Curly, and Larry are three "persons." Right? Now tell me which of those three persons is the ONE we atheists should view as being all three of em'?
Yep, but only one God.
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I hope it's Curly. He rotates in circles on the floor when he's "dying."
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As he rose by the power of God, we too that died in his friendship will also rise.
You really are nuts. You really are. But I've no clue as to whether or not you actually know you're nuts.
I know for a fact that you are clueless of God.
Well, I guess that answers *that*! You have no idea as to just how nuts you *really* are.
You reject.
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Gosh, think of what you gave up in your ignorance.
Listen, you retarded nut-job: you're actually promoting worship and adoration of the very being that created very evil itself--and did so KNOWING full-well the utter misery, suffering, and torment it would cause.
There is no misery, suffering or torment associated with God.
Does the name "Job" ring a bell?
Did he have a tv series? Did he see God.
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Here's an excerpt from an article I wrote titled, "On God and Evil . . . What "Sinless" God?
" having that heavy hand in the brutal ” “torture” of faithful Job (cf. Job
2:7), the suffering of Job’s *wife*, and the needless murder of his seven sons, his three daughters (cf. Job 1:2; 18-19), and nearly every single one of Job’s numerous servants, (cf. Job 1:3; 15-17) was absolutely beyond the pale. In fact, it was evil personified. And who explicitly sanctioned torture and those murders? Oh, that’s right: “Sinless God,” of course!
"YOU"........wrote. Haahaahaa.
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And you were saying?
That all comes
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from the serpent.
That wouldn't be that "evil serpent" the God Jesus created and God the Father used in order to trick Eve into sinning, is it?
That's the entire issue - turn from satan and to God.
That wouldn't be the "Satan" the God Jesus created knowing, with absolute certainty, the monstrously catastrophic results that would ensue beforehand, would it?
Satan is the fallen angel. Follow him at your peril.
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You've provided NO account of where evil itself originated. You say God "allowed" evil to enter the world. Well, tell me that was an act of a "loving" God; of a God that loves His earthly children.
No, instead you have a diabolically evil God who created very evil itself. And you can't show otherwise.
God is all love, and can't create evil.
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Tell me how "allowing" evil to enter existence is a "sinless" act. Explain that one.
God wants our choice - Love (God) or evil (temptation). God ALLOWS temptation.
Look at you, you freakin' idiot! You've just typed, God wants our *choice*, the choice between Love (God) and "EVIL"!!
He allowed the fallen angel.
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For the fucking umpteenth time, explain where that EVIL originated?
Being the sick-fuck you are, you can't be an honest broker and even attempt to explain whence it originated. And the reason why you won't is because you know damn well your Bible points *directly* to the God Jesus as having created it.
Can't you be honest . . . for *once*!
You have your answers.
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You and your silliness of "creation of evil".
You've not explained from whence it originated, butt-hole. And we both know why you can't bring yourself to admit from whence it originated.
That being the case, how about cutting out pro religious-based messages until you do?
Evil is everything to you. To me, it's God and his love. Ask yourself why you
embrace evil and then try to blame God.

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In article <328adfca-9514-4010-a4df-aae298eb7f97
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Subject: What's keeping Jesus from coming back?
Some wag parked an iron chariot on the runway at Heaven
Intercosmical Airport.
LOL
If thats a problem there are chariots of iron all over the
place these days.
But maybe Mr. H. Christ did come back lately, just true to his
MO he chose coming as a poor man´s son into a population of
analphabetic goat herders.
Living a short life in Somalia or some other hell hole place
he just did not make the news. Another inept attempt in divine
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How about He's prolonging the wait as long as possible so that more people will be saved when He returns?
...how about Christians are prolonging the fact that a divine Jesus
never existed and thus Jesus will never be "coming back" because he
never left earth in the first place. ...the best deal they'll ever get
(maybe) is a totaly human, crack pot Jew roaming around the Middle
East, mongering snake oil in the form of a salvation scam.
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How about He's prolonging the wait as long as possible so that more people will be saved when He returns?
...how about Christians are prolonging the fact that a divine Jesus
never existed and thus Jesus will never be "coming back" because he
never left earth in the first place. ...the best deal they'll ever get
(maybe) is a totaly human, crack pot Jew roaming around the Middle
East, mongering snake oil in the form of a salvation scam.
Meanwhile, any number of nuts wander around, thinking they
are Josh, or a prophet, etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem_syndrome

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How about He's prolonging the wait as long as possible so that more people will be saved when He returns?
...how about Christians are prolonging the fact that a divine Jesus
never existed and thus Jesus will never be "coming back" because he
never left earth in the first place. ...the best deal they'll ever get
(maybe) is a totaly human, crack pot Jew roaming around the Middle
East, mongering snake oil in the form of a salvation scam.
How about everything you wrote is contradicted by my own prayer and answer experience?
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How about He's prolonging the wait as long as possible so that more people will be saved when He returns?
...how about Christians are prolonging the fact that a divine Jesus
never existed and thus Jesus will never be "coming back" because he
never left earth in the first place. ...the best deal they'll ever get
(maybe) is a totaly human, crack pot Jew roaming around the Middle
East, mongering snake oil in the form of a salvation scam.
How about everything you wrote is contradicted by my own prayer and answer experience?
__________

Would that be your self-delusion, you're referring to? Or what you've only imagined?

Why is it so difficult for you to come to grips with that old adage: "Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence"?

Why in the *world* would you expect *any* one of us to believe your nonsensical claims, Mr. "I Don't Take Negative Claims Seriously" Amazing Answers?

You off your rocker or something?
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How about He's prolonging the wait as long as possible so that more people will be saved when He returns?
...how about Christians are prolonging the fact that a divine Jesus
never existed and thus Jesus will never be "coming back" because he
never left earth in the first place. ...the best deal they'll ever get
(maybe) is a totaly human, crack pot Jew roaming around the Middle
East, mongering snake oil in the form of a salvation scam.
How about everything you wrote is contradicted by my own prayer and answer experience?
__________
Would that be your self-delusion, you're referring to? Or what you've only imagined?
Why is it so difficult for you to come to grips with that old adage: "Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence"?
Why in the *world* would you expect *any* one of us to believe your nonsensical claims, Mr. "I Don't Take Negative Claims Seriously" Amazing Answers?
You off your rocker or something?
It is an extraordinary truth that physics defies any sort of hypothesis involving the self-organizing of matter into higher forms.
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It is an extraordinary truth that physics defies any sort of hypothesis involving the self-organizing of matter into higher forms.
What if Jesus is afraid of traffic? He would need a car to get around in America, and that goes against his humbleness.

A donkey doesn't get U very far nowadays.
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It is an extraordinary truth that physics defies any sort of hypothesis involving the self-organizing of matter into higher forms.
What if Jesus is afraid of traffic? He would need a car to get around in America, and that goes against his humbleness.
A donkey doesn't get U very far nowadays.
Cities and towns are becoming more and more donkey unfriendly.
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You off your rocker or something?
It is an extraordinary truth that physics defies any sort of hypothesis involving the self-organizing of matter into higher forms.
What if Jesus is afraid of traffic? He would need a car to get around in America, and that goes against his humbleness.
A donkey doesn't get U very far nowadays.
Cities and towns are becoming more and more donkey unfriendly.
maybe but you'll never stop yapper from saying it
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It is an extraordinary truth that physics defies any sort of hypothesis involving the self-organizing of matter into higher forms.
What if Jesus is afraid of traffic? He would need a car to get around in America, and that goes against his humbleness.
A donkey doesn't get U very far nowadays.
Cities and towns are becoming more and more donkey unfriendly.
Monkey unfriendly too.
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It is an extraordinary truth that physics defies any sort of hypothesis involving the self-organizing of matter into higher forms.
What if Jesus is afraid of traffic? He would need a car to get around in America, and that goes against his humbleness.
A donkey doesn't get U very far nowadays.
Cities and towns are becoming more and more donkey unfriendly.
Monkey unfriendly too.
I'm sure if monkeys were brought down town you'd see monkey on leash laws pop up.
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Is it that things R not bad enough or that he's taking a comfy
vacation somewhere in cloud nine?
I think Christians deserve some answers.
How about He's prolonging the wait as long as possible so that
more people will be saved when He returns?
...how about Christians are prolonging the fact that a divine Jesus
never existed and thus Jesus will never be "coming back" because he
never left earth in the first place. ...the best deal they'll ever
get (maybe) is a totaly human, crack pot Jew roaming around the
Middle East, mongering snake oil in the form of a salvation scam.
How about everything you wrote is contradicted by my own prayer and
answer experience?
Would that be your self-delusion, you're referring to? Or what you've only imagined?
"Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence"?
Why in the *world* would you expect *any* one of us to believe your
nonsensical claims, Mr. "I Don't Take Negative Claims Seriously"
Amazing Answers?
You off your rocker or something?
It is an extraordinary truth that physics defies any sort of hypothesis
involving the self-organizing of matter into higher forms.
So you say. Now prove it.
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never left earth in the first place. ...the best deal they'll ever get
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How about everything you wrote is contradicted by my own prayer and answer experience?
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Would that be your self-delusion, you're referring to? Or what you've only imagined?
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Why is it so difficult for you to come to grips with that old adage: "Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence"?
Why in the *world* would you expect *any* one of us to believe your nonsensical claims, Mr. "I Don't Take Negative Claims Seriously" Amazing Answers?
You off your rocker or something?
It is an extraordinary truth that physics defies any sort of hypothesis involving the self-organizing of matter into higher forms.
Hi, Greywolf. You might be interested in knowing that the last time that
AA made up this "extraordinary truth", I requested that he enlighten
us as to exactly which "laws of physics" forbid abiogenesis, and then
further detail exactly how abiogenesis would violate those laws.

In fact, I have asked him to explain that to us in detail -- scientific detail --
four times now.

This will make it five.






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never left earth in the first place. ...the best deal they'll ever get
(maybe) is a totaly human, crack pot Jew roaming around the Middle
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How about everything you wrote is contradicted by my own prayer and answer experience?
__________
Would that be your self-delusion, you're referring to? Or what you've only imagined?
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Why is it so difficult for you to come to grips with that old adage: "Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence"?
Why in the *world* would you expect *any* one of us to believe your nonsensical claims, Mr. "I Don't Take Negative Claims Seriously" Amazing Answers?
You off your rocker or something?
It is an extraordinary truth that physics defies any sort of hypothesis involving the self-organizing of matter into higher forms.
Hi, Greywolf. You might be interested in knowing that the last time that
AA made up this "extraordinary truth", I requested that he enlighten
us as to exactly which "laws of physics" forbid abiogenesis, and then
further detail exactly how abiogenesis would violate those laws.
In fact, I have asked him to explain that to us in detail -- scientific detail --
four times now.
This will make it five.
-- Selene, who knows more than a bit of physics and biology.
______

Sounds to me like AA has nothing to back up his claims other than more bogus claims.

I've been trying to get him to admit that he's really only here to annoy and antagonize atheists.

The guy simply lacks the honesty and class to admit the truth.
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How about He's prolonging the wait as long as possible so that more people will be saved when He returns?
...how about Christians are prolonging the fact that a divine Jesus
never existed and thus Jesus will never be "coming back" because he
never left earth in the first place. ...the best deal they'll ever get
(maybe) is a totaly human, crack pot Jew roaming around the Middle
East, mongering snake oil in the form of a salvation scam.
How about everything you wrote is contradicted by my own prayer and answer experience?
__________
Would that be your self-delusion, you're referring to? Or what you've only imagined?
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Why is it so difficult for you to come to grips with that old adage: "Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence"?
Why in the *world* would you expect *any* one of us to believe your nonsensical claims, Mr. "I Don't Take Negative Claims Seriously" Amazing Answers?
You off your rocker or something?
It is an extraordinary truth that physics defies any sort of hypothesis involving the self-organizing of matter into higher forms.
Hi, Greywolf. You might be interested in knowing that the last time that
AA made up this "extraordinary truth", I requested that he enlighten
us as to exactly which "laws of physics" forbid abiogenesis, and then
further detail exactly how abiogenesis would violate those laws.
In fact, I have asked him to explain that to us in detail -- scientific detail --
four times now.
This will make it five.
-- Selene, who knows more than a bit of physics and biology.
______
Sounds to me like AA has nothing to back up his claims other than more bogus claims.
I've been trying to get him to admit that he's really only here to annoy and antagonize atheists.
The guy simply lacks the honesty and class to admit the truth.
he doesn't owe you the truth
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(maybe) is a totaly human, crack pot Jew roaming around the Middle
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Why in the *world* would you expect *any* one of us to believe
your nonsensical claims, Mr. "I Don't Take Negative Claims Seriously"
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You off your rocker or something?
It is an extraordinary truth that physics defies any sort of
hypothesis involving the self-organizing of matter into higher forms.
Hi, Greywolf. You might be interested in knowing that the last time that
AA made up this "extraordinary truth", I requested that he enlighten
us as to exactly which "laws of physics" forbid abiogenesis, and then
further detail exactly how abiogenesis would violate those laws.
In fact, I have asked him to explain that to us in detail --
scientific detail --
four times now.
This will make it five.
-- Selene, who knows more than a bit of physics and biology.
You no more about physic's & biology then someone that got degree's
in both with strait A's.
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How about He's prolonging the wait as long as possible so that more people will be saved when He returns?
...how about Christians are prolonging the fact that a divine Jesus
never existed and thus Jesus will never be "coming back" because he
never left earth in the first place. ...the best deal they'll ever get
(maybe) is a totaly human, crack pot Jew roaming around the Middle
East, mongering snake oil in the form of a salvation scam.
How about everything you wrote is contradicted by my own prayer and answer experience?
So how many amputees have your prayers helped? Or does your god only answer lost car key prayers, snicker.
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Is it that things R not bad enough or that he's taking a comfy
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I think Christians deserve some answers.
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How about He's prolonging the wait as long as possible so that more
people will be saved when He returns?
...how about Christians are prolonging the fact that a divine Jesus
never existed and thus Jesus will never be "coming back" because he
never left earth in the first place. ...the best deal they'll ever get
(maybe) is a totaly human, crack pot Jew roaming around the Middle
East, mongering snake oil in the form of a salvation scam.
How about everything you wrote is contradicted by my own prayer and answer experience?
So how many amputees have your prayers helped? Or does your god only
answer lost car key prayers, snicker.
Exactly.
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Is it that things R not bad enough or that he's taking a comfy vacation somewhere in cloud nine?
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How about He's prolonging the wait as long as possible so that more people will be saved when He returns?
...how about Christians are prolonging the fact that a divine Jesus
never existed and thus Jesus will never be "coming back" because he
never left earth in the first place. ...the best deal they'll ever get
(maybe) is a totaly human, crack pot Jew roaming around the Middle
East, mongering snake oil in the form of a salvation scam.
How about everything you wrote is contradicted by my own prayer and answer experience?
So how many amputees have your prayers helped? Or does your god only answer lost car key prayers, snicker.
I've never prayed for an amputee. Prosthetics helps out. But God has answered many prayers. For instance, an out-of-the-blue offer for a $20/hr job, while in Israel, that a Cockatoo that flew away in a large town would be returned, that an ad would appear in the local paper offering training in scuba diving (never seen one in that paper before, and the prayer was answer within weeks), that God would return a stolen taillight lens cap - that someone will show me where it is (guy spotted me at the local gas station), that a someone would help me before the sun set (came an fixed the problem just as the sun was setting. You know, God loves you Tim. He can assist you for all sorts of things, according to the faith you have. Are you in sync with His will? Are you praying to help others? These are the things that count and things I consider when I pray God is like your Father. He'll give you a career, a car, or what not, but He does so like a Father would do. Your Father considers your needs and helps you out even if you aren't a Christian. Help is for everyone.
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How about He's prolonging the wait as long as possible so that more
people will be saved when He returns?
...how about Christians are prolonging the fact that a divine Jesus
never existed and thus Jesus will never be "coming back" because he
never left earth in the first place. ...the best deal they'll ever get
(maybe) is a totaly human, crack pot Jew roaming around the Middle
East, mongering snake oil in the form of a salvation scam.
How about everything you wrote is contradicted by my own prayer and answer experience?
So how many amputees have your prayers helped? Or does your god only
answer lost car key prayers, snicker.
I've never prayed for an amputee. Prosthetics helps out. But God has
answered many prayers. For instance, an out-of-the-blue offer for a
$20/hr job, while in Israel, that a Cockatoo that flew away in a large
town would be returned, that an ad would appear in the local paper
offering training in scuba diving (never seen one in that paper before,
and the prayer was answer within weeks), that God would return a stolen
taillight lens cap - that someone will show me where it is (guy spotted
me at the local gas station), that a someone would help me before the sun
set (came an fixed the problem just as the sun was setting. You know,
God loves you Tim. He can assist you for all sorts of things, according
to the faith you have. Are you in sync with His will? Are you praying
to help others? These are the things that count and things I consider
when I pray God is like your Father. He'll give you a career, a car,
or what not, but He does so like a Father would do. Your Father
considers your needs and helps you out even if you aren't a Christian.
Help is for everyone.
Yeah yeah, Asteroid, we already knew you were a lying idiot. But lemme ask
you a couple of questions.

Would you recommend to an amputee that he pray or seek prayer to restore
his missing limb? Why or why not?

How are your above examples of answered prayer qualitatively different from
Tim's lost-car-keys? Mightn't the results have been identical if you hadn't
prayed?
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How about He's prolonging the wait as long as possible so that more
people will be saved when He returns?
...how about Christians are prolonging the fact that a divine Jesus
never existed and thus Jesus will never be "coming back" because he
never left earth in the first place. ...the best deal they'll ever get
(maybe) is a totaly human, crack pot Jew roaming around the Middle
East, mongering snake oil in the form of a salvation scam.
How about everything you wrote is contradicted by my own prayer and answer experience?
So how many amputees have your prayers helped? Or does your god only
answer lost car key prayers, snicker.
I've never prayed for an amputee. Prosthetics helps out. But God has
answered many prayers. For instance, an out-of-the-blue offer for a
$20/hr job, while in Israel, that a Cockatoo that flew away in a large
town would be returned, that an ad would appear in the local paper
offering training in scuba diving (never seen one in that paper before,
and the prayer was answer within weeks), that God would return a stolen
taillight lens cap - that someone will show me where it is (guy spotted
me at the local gas station), that a someone would help me before the sun
set (came an fixed the problem just as the sun was setting. You know,
God loves you Tim. He can assist you for all sorts of things, according
to the faith you have. Are you in sync with His will? Are you praying
to help others? These are the things that count and things I consider
when I pray God is like your Father. He'll give you a career, a car,
or what not, but He does so like a Father would do. Your Father
considers your needs and helps you out even if you aren't a Christian.
Help is for everyone.
Yeah yeah, Asteroid, we already knew you were a lying idiot. But lemme ask
you a couple of questions.
Would you recommend to an amputee that he pray or seek prayer to restore
his missing limb? Why or why not?
How are your above examples of answered prayer qualitatively different from
Tim's lost-car-keys? Mightn't the results have been identical if you hadn't
prayed?
No, I would not recommend that an amputee pray or seek prayer to restore his missing limb. I would start with small prayers and thanksgiving. I would work on gaining truth and pray mostly for others and not yourself.
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I think Christians deserve some answers.
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How about He's prolonging the wait as long as possible so that more
people will be saved when He returns?
...how about Christians are prolonging the fact that a divine Jesus
never existed and thus Jesus will never be "coming back" because he
never left earth in the first place. ...the best deal they'll ever get
(maybe) is a totaly human, crack pot Jew roaming around the Middle
East, mongering snake oil in the form of a salvation scam.
How about everything you wrote is contradicted by my own prayer and answer experience?
So how many amputees have your prayers helped? Or does your god only
answer lost car key prayers, snicker.
I've never prayed for an amputee. Prosthetics helps out. But God has
answered many prayers. For instance, an out-of-the-blue offer for a
$20/hr job, while in Israel, that a Cockatoo that flew away in a large
town would be returned, that an ad would appear in the local paper
offering training in scuba diving (never seen one in that paper before,
and the prayer was answer within weeks), that God would return a stolen
taillight lens cap - that someone will show me where it is (guy spotted
me at the local gas station), that a someone would help me before the sun
set (came an fixed the problem just as the sun was setting. You know,
God loves you Tim. He can assist you for all sorts of things, according
to the faith you have. Are you in sync with His will? Are you praying
to help others? These are the things that count and things I consider
when I pray God is like your Father. He'll give you a career, a car,
or what not, but He does so like a Father would do. Your Father
considers your needs and helps you out even if you aren't a Christian.
Help is for everyone.
Yeah yeah, Asteroid, we already knew you were a lying idiot. But lemme ask
you a couple of questions.
Would you recommend to an amputee that he pray or seek prayer to restore
his missing limb? Why or why not?
How are your above examples of answered prayer qualitatively different from
Tim's lost-car-keys? Mightn't the results have been identical if you hadn't
prayed?
No, I would not recommend that an amputee pray or seek prayer to restore his missing limb. I would start with small prayers and thanksgiving. I would work on gaining truth and pray mostly for others and not yourself.
So why don't you pray for amputees? You claim to have mastered praying for the return of birds, lost car keys, and general car failures. You're a self-centered fake Christian. You better pray there is no god or you'll end up in your imagined hell, fake Christian.
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I think Christians deserve some answers.
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How about He's prolonging the wait as long as possible so that more
people will be saved when He returns?
...how about Christians are prolonging the fact that a divine Jesus
never existed and thus Jesus will never be "coming back" because he
never left earth in the first place. ...the best deal they'll ever get
(maybe) is a totaly human, crack pot Jew roaming around the Middle
East, mongering snake oil in the form of a salvation scam.
How about everything you wrote is contradicted by my own prayer and answer experience?
So how many amputees have your prayers helped? Or does your god only
answer lost car key prayers, snicker.
I've never prayed for an amputee. Prosthetics helps out. But God has
answered many prayers. For instance, an out-of-the-blue offer for a
$20/hr job, while in Israel, that a Cockatoo that flew away in a large
town would be returned, that an ad would appear in the local paper
offering training in scuba diving (never seen one in that paper before,
and the prayer was answer within weeks), that God would return a stolen
taillight lens cap - that someone will show me where it is (guy spotted
me at the local gas station), that a someone would help me before the sun
set (came an fixed the problem just as the sun was setting. You know,
God loves you Tim. He can assist you for all sorts of things, according
to the faith you have. Are you in sync with His will? Are you praying
to help others? These are the things that count and things I consider
when I pray God is like your Father. He'll give you a career, a car,
or what not, but He does so like a Father would do. Your Father
considers your needs and helps you out even if you aren't a Christian.
Help is for everyone.
Yeah yeah, Asteroid, we already knew you were a lying idiot. But lemme ask
you a couple of questions.
Would you recommend to an amputee that he pray or seek prayer to restore
his missing limb? Why or why not?
How are your above examples of answered prayer qualitatively different from
Tim's lost-car-keys? Mightn't the results have been identical if you hadn't
prayed?
No, I would not recommend that an amputee pray or seek prayer to restore his missing limb. I would start with small prayers and thanksgiving. I would work on gaining truth and pray mostly for others and not yourself.
So why don't you pray for amputees? You claim to have mastered praying for the return of birds, lost car keys, and general car failures. You're a self-centered fake Christian. You better pray there is no god or you'll end up in your imagined hell, fake Christian.
There's also the time element. Catholics (including, at the time, me)
prayed for the conversion of then-Communist Russia. That regime lasted
over 80 years, and many Russians have gone back to their pre-Revolutionary
faiths. In the wider Soviet Union, that includes Islam, which got us
such things as the Boston Marathon bombing. A "mixed blessing," at best,
I'd say.

Changes like this happen, given enough time, prayer or no prayer.
There's no way to set up a control to see if prayer is effective.
The same claims were made by people praying to, and sacrificing to
ghodz other than Yahooey/Josh/Bird. are their claims of efficacy
vaid? What's the measurable difference?

Prayer is wishing, no more and no less. Meditation without the
religious bafflegab will do you as much or as little good, if one is
into that.

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I think Christians deserve some answers.
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How about He's prolonging the wait as long as possible so that more
people will be saved when He returns?
...how about Christians are prolonging the fact that a divine Jesus
never existed and thus Jesus will never be "coming back" because he
never left earth in the first place. ...the best deal they'll ever get
(maybe) is a totaly human, crack pot Jew roaming around the Middle
East, mongering snake oil in the form of a salvation scam.
How about everything you wrote is contradicted by my own prayer and answer experience?
So how many amputees have your prayers helped? Or does your god only
answer lost car key prayers, snicker.
I've never prayed for an amputee. Prosthetics helps out. But God has
answered many prayers. For instance, an out-of-the-blue offer for a
$20/hr job, while in Israel, that a Cockatoo that flew away in a large
town would be returned, that an ad would appear in the local paper
offering training in scuba diving (never seen one in that paper before,
and the prayer was answer within weeks), that God would return a stolen
taillight lens cap - that someone will show me where it is (guy spotted
me at the local gas station), that a someone would help me before the sun
set (came an fixed the problem just as the sun was setting. You know,
God loves you Tim. He can assist you for all sorts of things, according
to the faith you have. Are you in sync with His will? Are you praying
to help others? These are the things that count and things I consider
when I pray God is like your Father. He'll give you a career, a car,
or what not, but He does so like a Father would do. Your Father
considers your needs and helps you out even if you aren't a Christian.
Help is for everyone.
Yeah yeah, Asteroid, we already knew you were a lying idiot. But lemme ask
you a couple of questions.
Would you recommend to an amputee that he pray or seek prayer to restore
his missing limb? Why or why not?
How are your above examples of answered prayer qualitatively different from
Tim's lost-car-keys? Mightn't the results have been identical if you hadn't
prayed?
No, I would not recommend that an amputee pray or seek prayer to restore his missing limb. I would start with small prayers and thanksgiving. I would work on gaining truth and pray mostly for others and not yourself.
So why don't you pray for amputees? You claim to have mastered praying for the return of birds, lost car keys, and general car failures. You're a self-centered fake Christian. You better pray there is no god or you'll end up in your imagined hell, fake Christian.
There's also the time element. Catholics (including, at the time, me)
prayed for the conversion of then-Communist Russia. That regime lasted
over 80 years, and many Russians have gone back to their pre-Revolutionary
faiths. In the wider Soviet Union, that includes Islam, which got us
such things as the Boston Marathon bombing. A "mixed blessing," at best,
I'd say.
Changes like this happen, given enough time, prayer or no prayer.
You don't need to know. Jesus does.
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There's no way to set up a control to see if prayer is effective.
You don't believe Jesus??
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The same claims were made by people praying to, and sacrificing to
ghodz other than Yahooey/Josh/Bird. are their claims of efficacy
vaid? What's the measurable difference?
I believe that Jesus has a reward for you the way you insult him.
Post by Kevrob
Prayer is wishing, no more and no less.
Wrong, you fake was-Christian. Prayer is "to ask of". Only stupid people like
you would come on here and actually show your ass by pushing "no more, no less".
Post by Kevrob
Meditation without the
religious bafflegab will do you as much or as little good, if one is
into that.
You already made your bed. Too bad.
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Is it that things R not bad enough or that he's taking a comfy
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I think Christians deserve some answers.
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How about He's prolonging the wait as long as possible so that more
people will be saved when He returns?
...how about Christians are prolonging the fact that a divine Jesus
never existed and thus Jesus will never be "coming back" because he
never left earth in the first place. ...the best deal they'll ever get
(maybe) is a totaly human, crack pot Jew roaming around the Middle
East, mongering snake oil in the form of a salvation scam.
How about everything you wrote is contradicted by my own prayer and answer experience?
So how many amputees have your prayers helped? Or does your god only
answer lost car key prayers, snicker.
I've never prayed for an amputee. Prosthetics helps out. But God has
answered many prayers. For instance, an out-of-the-blue offer for a
$20/hr job, while in Israel, that a Cockatoo that flew away in a large
town would be returned, that an ad would appear in the local paper
offering training in scuba diving (never seen one in that paper before,
and the prayer was answer within weeks), that God would return a stolen
taillight lens cap - that someone will show me where it is (guy spotted
me at the local gas station), that a someone would help me before the sun
set (came an fixed the problem just as the sun was setting. You know,
God loves you Tim. He can assist you for all sorts of things, according
to the faith you have. Are you in sync with His will? Are you praying
to help others? These are the things that count and things I consider
when I pray God is like your Father. He'll give you a career, a car,
or what not, but He does so like a Father would do. Your Father
considers your needs and helps you out even if you aren't a Christian.
Help is for everyone.
Yeah yeah, Asteroid, we already knew you were a lying idiot. But lemme ask
you a couple of questions.
Would you recommend to an amputee that he pray or seek prayer to restore
his missing limb? Why or why not?
How are your above examples of answered prayer qualitatively different from
Tim's lost-car-keys? Mightn't the results have been identical if you hadn't
prayed?
No, I would not recommend that an amputee pray or seek prayer to restore
his missing limb.
Because it doesn't fucking work and you *know* it doesn't.
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I would start with small prayers and thanksgiving. I would work on
gaining truth and pray mostly for others and not yourself.
Praying for others doesn't work either, you lying piece of shit.
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I think Christians deserve some answers.
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How about He's prolonging the wait as long as possible so that more
people will be saved when He returns?
...how about Christians are prolonging the fact that a divine Jesus
never existed and thus Jesus will never be "coming back" because he
never left earth in the first place. ...the best deal they'll ever get
(maybe) is a totaly human, crack pot Jew roaming around the Middle
East, mongering snake oil in the form of a salvation scam.
How about everything you wrote is contradicted by my own prayer and answer experience?
So how many amputees have your prayers helped? Or does your god only
answer lost car key prayers, snicker.
I've never prayed for an amputee. Prosthetics helps out. But God has
answered many prayers. For instance, an out-of-the-blue offer for a
$20/hr job, while in Israel, that a Cockatoo that flew away in a large
town would be returned, that an ad would appear in the local paper
offering training in scuba diving (never seen one in that paper before,
and the prayer was answer within weeks), that God would return a stolen
taillight lens cap - that someone will show me where it is (guy spotted
me at the local gas station), that a someone would help me before the sun
set (came an fixed the problem just as the sun was setting. You know,
God loves you Tim. He can assist you for all sorts of things, according
to the faith you have. Are you in sync with His will? Are you praying
to help others? These are the things that count and things I consider
when I pray God is like your Father. He'll give you a career, a car,
or what not, but He does so like a Father would do. Your Father
considers your needs and helps you out even if you aren't a Christian.
Help is for everyone.
Yeah yeah, Asteroid, we already knew you were a lying idiot. But lemme ask
you a couple of questions.
Would you recommend to an amputee that he pray or seek prayer to restore
his missing limb? Why or why not?
How are your above examples of answered prayer qualitatively different from
Tim's lost-car-keys? Mightn't the results have been identical if you hadn't
prayed?
No, I would not recommend that an amputee pray or seek prayer to restore
his missing limb.
Because it doesn't fucking work and you *know* it doesn't.
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I would start with small prayers and thanksgiving. I would work on
gaining truth and pray mostly for others and not yourself.
Praying for others doesn't work either, you lying piece of shit.
Sam, prayer isn't magic, and yes, God answers prayers.
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Sam, prayer isn't magic, and yes, God answers prayers.
Not he he hasn't.
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Is it that things R not bad enough or that he's taking a comfy
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I think Christians deserve some answers.
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How about He's prolonging the wait as long as possible so that more
people will be saved when He returns?
...how about Christians are prolonging the fact that a divine Jesus
never existed and thus Jesus will never be "coming back" because he
never left earth in the first place. ...the best deal they'll ever get
(maybe) is a totaly human, crack pot Jew roaming around the Middle
East, mongering snake oil in the form of a salvation scam.
How about everything you wrote is contradicted by my own prayer and answer experience?
So how many amputees have your prayers helped? Or does your god only
answer lost car key prayers, snicker.
I've never prayed for an amputee. Prosthetics helps out. But God has
answered many prayers. For instance, an out-of-the-blue offer for a
$20/hr job, while in Israel, that a Cockatoo that flew away in a large
town would be returned, that an ad would appear in the local paper
offering training in scuba diving (never seen one in that paper before,
and the prayer was answer within weeks), that God would return a stolen
taillight lens cap - that someone will show me where it is (guy spotted
me at the local gas station), that a someone would help me before the sun
set (came an fixed the problem just as the sun was setting. You know,
God loves you Tim. He can assist you for all sorts of things, according
to the faith you have. Are you in sync with His will? Are you praying
to help others? These are the things that count and things I consider
when I pray God is like your Father. He'll give you a career, a car,
or what not, but He does so like a Father would do. Your Father
considers your needs and helps you out even if you aren't a Christian.
Help is for everyone.
Yeah yeah, Asteroid, we already knew you were a lying idiot. But lemme ask
you a couple of questions.
Would you recommend to an amputee that he pray or seek prayer to restore
his missing limb? Why or why not?
How are your above examples of answered prayer qualitatively different from
Tim's lost-car-keys? Mightn't the results have been identical if you hadn't
prayed?
No, I would not recommend that an amputee pray or seek prayer to restore
his missing limb.
Because it doesn't fucking work and you *know* it doesn't.
Post by Amazing Answers
I would start with small prayers and thanksgiving. I would work on
gaining truth and pray mostly for others and not yourself.
Praying for others doesn't work either, you lying piece of shit.
Sam, prayer isn't magic, and yes, God answers prayers.
___________

See here for some of that proof:

https://theatheistobserver.wordpress.com/2013/08/30/on-prayer/

Hey! Did you forget all about that scholarly rebuttal of my take on the Garden of Eden?

Time to get off the snide and prove yourself, my man.

Or are you just going to accept defeat, prove that you're just full of hot air and nothing more? Or are you going to rise to the challenge and show you've got some serious apologetic "chops."

Not responding to the challenge, just ignoring it, proves you're nothing but a phony-baloney Christian, and a mentally ill nut-job on top of it.

C'mon, show you're more than just a retard that has no business posting in this forum.

I'd bet the house you haven't even read the article. Go ahead and prove me wrong.
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I think Christians deserve some answers.
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How about He's prolonging the wait as long as possible so that more
people will be saved when He returns?
...how about Christians are prolonging the fact that a divine Jesus
never existed and thus Jesus will never be "coming back" because he
never left earth in the first place. ...the best deal they'll ever get
(maybe) is a totaly human, crack pot Jew roaming around the Middle
East, mongering snake oil in the form of a salvation scam.
How about everything you wrote is contradicted by my own prayer and answer experience?
So how many amputees have your prayers helped? Or does your god only
answer lost car key prayers, snicker.
I've never prayed for an amputee. Prosthetics helps out. But God has
answered many prayers. For instance, an out-of-the-blue offer for a
$20/hr job, while in Israel, that a Cockatoo that flew away in a large
town would be returned, that an ad would appear in the local paper
offering training in scuba diving (never seen one in that paper before,
and the prayer was answer within weeks), that God would return a stolen
taillight lens cap - that someone will show me where it is (guy spotted
me at the local gas station), that a someone would help me before the sun
set (came an fixed the problem just as the sun was setting. You know,
God loves you Tim. He can assist you for all sorts of things, according
to the faith you have. Are you in sync with His will? Are you praying
to help others? These are the things that count and things I consider
when I pray God is like your Father. He'll give you a career, a car,
or what not, but He does so like a Father would do. Your Father
considers your needs and helps you out even if you aren't a Christian.
Help is for everyone.
Yeah yeah, Asteroid, we already knew you were a lying idiot. But lemme ask
you a couple of questions.
Would you recommend to an amputee that he pray or seek prayer to restore
his missing limb? Why or why not?
How are your above examples of answered prayer qualitatively different from
Tim's lost-car-keys? Mightn't the results have been identical if you hadn't
prayed?
No, I would not recommend that an amputee pray or seek prayer to restore
his missing limb.
Because it doesn't fucking work and you *know* it doesn't.
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I would start with small prayers and thanksgiving. I would work on
gaining truth and pray mostly for others and not yourself.
Praying for others doesn't work either, you lying piece of shit.
Sam, prayer isn't magic, and yes, God answers prayers.
https://theatheistobserver.wordpress.com/2013/08/30/on-prayer/
Hey! Did you forget all about that scholarly rebuttal of my take on the Garden of Eden?
Shucks, I missed that one.
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Time to get off the snide and prove yourself, my man.
I'd say we got you covered like a rug.
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Or are you just going to accept defeat, prove that you're just full of hot air and nothing more? Or are you going to rise to the challenge and show you've got some serious apologetic "chops."
Not responding to the challenge, just ignoring it, proves you're nothing but a phony-baloney Christian, and a mentally ill nut-job on top of it.
C'mon, show you're more than just a retard that has no business posting in this forum.
I'd bet the house you haven't even read the article. Go ahead and prove me wrong.
I noticed a massive mistake on your part: "God anticipated our needs". NO, God
knows our needs. And the important thing, a massive mistake by you atheists, is
our prayer for others not ourselves. That is our turn to God to "love our
neighbor as we love ourselves".

See what a massive mistake you made. You really are a big zero.


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Is it that things R not bad enough or that he's taking a comfy
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I think Christians deserve some answers.
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How about He's prolonging the wait as long as possible so that more
people will be saved when He returns?
...how about Christians are prolonging the fact that a divine Jesus
never existed and thus Jesus will never be "coming back" because he
never left earth in the first place. ...the best deal they'll ever get
(maybe) is a totaly human, crack pot Jew roaming around the Middle
East, mongering snake oil in the form of a salvation scam.
How about everything you wrote is contradicted by my own prayer and answer experience?
So how many amputees have your prayers helped? Or does your god only
answer lost car key prayers, snicker.
I've never prayed for an amputee. Prosthetics helps out. But God has
answered many prayers. For instance, an out-of-the-blue offer for a
$20/hr job, while in Israel, that a Cockatoo that flew away in a large
town would be returned, that an ad would appear in the local paper
offering training in scuba diving (never seen one in that paper before,
and the prayer was answer within weeks), that God would return a stolen
taillight lens cap - that someone will show me where it is (guy spotted
me at the local gas station), that a someone would help me before the sun
set (came an fixed the problem just as the sun was setting. You know,
God loves you Tim. He can assist you for all sorts of things, according
to the faith you have. Are you in sync with His will? Are you praying
to help others? These are the things that count and things I consider
when I pray God is like your Father. He'll give you a career, a car,
or what not, but He does so like a Father would do. Your Father
considers your needs and helps you out even if you aren't a Christian.
Help is for everyone.
Yeah yeah, Asteroid, we already knew you were a lying idiot. But lemme ask
you a couple of questions.
Would you recommend to an amputee that he pray or seek prayer to restore
his missing limb? Why or why not?
How are your above examples of answered prayer qualitatively different from
Tim's lost-car-keys? Mightn't the results have been identical if you hadn't
prayed?
No, I would not recommend that an amputee pray or seek prayer to restore
his missing limb.
Because it doesn't fucking work and you *know* it doesn't.
Post by Amazing Answers
I would start with small prayers and thanksgiving. I would work on
gaining truth and pray mostly for others and not yourself.
Praying for others doesn't work either, you lying piece of shit.
Sam, prayer isn't magic, and yes, God answers prayers.
https://theatheistobserver.wordpress.com/2013/08/30/on-prayer/
Hey! Did you forget all about that scholarly rebuttal of my take on the Garden of Eden?
Shucks, I missed that one.
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Time to get off the snide and prove yourself, my man.
I'd say we got you covered like a rug.
Post by Greywolf
Or are you just going to accept defeat, prove that you're just full of hot air and nothing more? Or are you going to rise to the challenge and show you've got some serious apologetic "chops."
Not responding to the challenge, just ignoring it, proves you're nothing but a phony-baloney Christian, and a mentally ill nut-job on top of it.
C'mon, show you're more than just a retard that has no business posting in this forum.
I'd bet the house you haven't even read the article. Go ahead and prove me wrong.
I noticed a massive mistake on your part: "God anticipated our needs". NO, God
knows our needs.
'Anticipated' regards future conditions as yet unfulfilled, which is just a more specific nuance on the word 'knowing'.


And the important thing, a massive mistake by you atheists, is
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our prayer for others not ourselves. That is our turn to God to "love our
neighbor as we love ourselves".
See what a massive mistake you made. You really are a big zero.
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I noticed a massive mistake on your part: "God anticipated our needs". NO, God
knows our needs.
'Anticipated' regards future conditions as yet unfulfilled, which is just a more specific nuance on the word 'knowing'.
NOT to God.

If God had to wait for us to pray, it would mean that he didn't already know.
But he does, AND he knows and has known for 13.8 billion years who we would pray
for tomorrow and what reason.

God knew our response long, long ago.
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And the important thing, a massive mistake by you atheists, is
our prayer for others not ourselves. That is our turn to God to "love our
neighbor as we love ourselves".
See what a massive mistake you made. You really are a big zero.
the dukester, American-American


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I noticed a massive mistake on your part: "God anticipated our
needs". NO, God knows our needs.
'Anticipated' regards future conditions as yet unfulfilled, which is
just a more specific nuance on the word 'knowing'.
NOT to God.
If God had to wait for us to pray, it would mean that he didn't
already know. But he does, AND he knows and has known for 13.8 billion
years who we would pray for tomorrow and what reason.
So god knew the Holocaust would happen
centuries ago and did nothing to stop it.

And then ignored all the prayers and
just let his "chosen people" to be herded
into the ovens.

If he won't act on THEIR prayers why
would do a thing about yours?
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I noticed a massive mistake on your part: "God anticipated our
needs". NO, God knows our needs.
'Anticipated' regards future conditions as yet unfulfilled, which is
just a more specific nuance on the word 'knowing'.
NOT to God.
If God had to wait for us to pray, it would mean that he didn't
already know. But he does, AND he knows and has known for 13.8 billion
years who we would pray for tomorrow and what reason.
So god knew the Holocaust would happen
centuries ago and did nothing to stop it.
God allows evil.
Post by Mitchell Holman
And then ignored all the prayers and
just let his "chosen people" to be herded
into the ovens.
Chosen?? What do you mean?
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If he won't act on THEIR prayers why
would do a thing about yours?
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Post by duke
I noticed a massive mistake on your part: "God anticipated our
needs". NO, God knows our needs.
'Anticipated' regards future conditions as yet unfulfilled, which
is just a more specific nuance on the word 'knowing'.
NOT to God.
If God had to wait for us to pray, it would mean that he didn't
already know. But he does, AND he knows and has known for 13.8
billion years who we would pray for tomorrow and what reason.
So god knew the Holocaust would happen
centuries ago and did nothing to stop it.
God allows evil.
Then why bother prayering to be spared from it?
Post by Mitchell Holman
And then ignored all the prayers and
just let his "chosen people" to be herded
into the ovens.
Chosen?? What do you mean?
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-quot-chosen-people-quot
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If he won't act on THEIR prayers why
would do a thing about yours?
Well?

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Is it that things R not bad enough or that he's taking a comfy
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I think Christians deserve some answers.
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How about He's prolonging the wait as long as possible so that more
people will be saved when He returns?
...how about Christians are prolonging the fact that a divine Jesus
never existed and thus Jesus will never be "coming back" because he
never left earth in the first place. ...the best deal they'll ever get
(maybe) is a totaly human, crack pot Jew roaming around the Middle
East, mongering snake oil in the form of a salvation scam.
How about everything you wrote is contradicted by my own prayer and answer
experience?
So how many amputees have your prayers helped? Or does your god only
answer lost car key prayers, snicker.
I've never prayed for an amputee. Prosthetics helps out. But God has
answered many prayers. For instance, an out-of-the-blue offer for a
$20/hr job, while in Israel, that a Cockatoo that flew away in a large
town would be returned, that an ad would appear in the local paper
offering training in scuba diving (never seen one in that paper before,
and the prayer was answer within weeks), that God would return a stolen
taillight lens cap - that someone will show me where it is (guy spotted
me at the local gas station), that a someone would help me before the sun
set (came an fixed the problem just as the sun was setting. You know,
God loves you Tim. He can assist you for all sorts of things, according
to the faith you have. Are you in sync with His will? Are you praying
to help others? These are the things that count and things I consider
when I pray God is like your Father. He'll give you a career, a car,
or what not, but He does so like a Father would do. Your Father
considers your needs and helps you out even if you aren't a Christian.
Help is for everyone.
Yeah yeah, Asteroid, we already knew you were a lying idiot. But lemme ask
you a couple of questions.
Would you recommend to an amputee that he pray or seek prayer to restore
his missing limb? Why or why not?
How are your above examples of answered prayer qualitatively different from
Tim's lost-car-keys? Mightn't the results have been identical if you hadn't
prayed?
No, I would not recommend that an amputee pray or seek prayer to restore
his missing limb.
Because it doesn't fucking work and you *know* it doesn't.
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I would start with small prayers and thanksgiving. I would work on
gaining truth and pray mostly for others and not yourself.
Praying for others doesn't work either, you lying piece of shit.
Sam, prayer isn't magic, and yes, God answers prayers.
Liar.
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How about He's prolonging the wait as long as possible so that more
people will be saved when He returns?
...how about Christians are prolonging the fact that a divine Jesus
never existed and thus Jesus will never be "coming back" because he
never left earth in the first place. ...the best deal they'll ever get
(maybe) is a totaly human, crack pot Jew roaming around the Middle
East, mongering snake oil in the form of a salvation scam.
How about everything you wrote is contradicted by my own prayer and answer experience?
So how many amputees have your prayers helped? Or does your god only
answer lost car key prayers, snicker.
I've never prayed for an amputee. Prosthetics helps out. But God has
answered many prayers. For instance, an out-of-the-blue offer for a
$20/hr job, while in Israel, that a Cockatoo that flew away in a large
town would be returned, that an ad would appear in the local paper
offering training in scuba diving (never seen one in that paper before,
and the prayer was answer within weeks), that God would return a stolen
taillight lens cap - that someone will show me where it is (guy spotted
me at the local gas station), that a someone would help me before the sun
set (came an fixed the problem just as the sun was setting. You know,
God loves you Tim. He can assist you for all sorts of things, according
to the faith you have. Are you in sync with His will? Are you praying
to help others? These are the things that count and things I consider
when I pray God is like your Father. He'll give you a career, a car,
or what not, but He does so like a Father would do. Your Father
considers your needs and helps you out even if you aren't a Christian.
Help is for everyone.
Yeah yeah, Asteroid, we already knew you were a lying idiot. But lemme ask
you a couple of questions.
Would you recommend to an amputee that he pray or seek prayer to restore
his missing limb? Why or why not?
How are your above examples of answered prayer qualitatively different from
Tim's lost-car-keys? Mightn't the results have been identical if you hadn't
prayed?
No, I would not recommend that an amputee pray or seek prayer to restore
his missing limb.
Because it doesn't fucking work and you *know* it doesn't.
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I would start with small prayers and thanksgiving. I would work on
gaining truth and pray mostly for others and not yourself.
Praying for others doesn't work either, you lying piece of shit.
Sam, prayer isn't magic, and yes, God answers prayers.
So show us an amputee with a new arm or leg provided through prayer.
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How about He's prolonging the wait as long as possible so that more
people will be saved when He returns?
...how about Christians are prolonging the fact that a divine Jesus
never existed and thus Jesus will never be "coming back" because he
never left earth in the first place. ...the best deal they'll ever get
(maybe) is a totaly human, crack pot Jew roaming around the Middle
East, mongering snake oil in the form of a salvation scam.
How about everything you wrote is contradicted by my own prayer and answer experience?
So how many amputees have your prayers helped? Or does your god only
answer lost car key prayers, snicker.
I've never prayed for an amputee. Prosthetics helps out. But God has
answered many prayers. For instance, an out-of-the-blue offer for a
$20/hr job, while in Israel, that a Cockatoo that flew away in a large
town would be returned, that an ad would appear in the local paper
offering training in scuba diving (never seen one in that paper before,
and the prayer was answer within weeks), that God would return a stolen
taillight lens cap - that someone will show me where it is (guy spotted
me at the local gas station), that a someone would help me before the sun
set (came an fixed the problem just as the sun was setting. You know,
God loves you Tim. He can assist you for all sorts of things, according
to the faith you have. Are you in sync with His will? Are you praying
to help others? These are the things that count and things I consider
when I pray God is like your Father. He'll give you a career, a car,
or what not, but He does so like a Father would do. Your Father
considers your needs and helps you out even if you aren't a Christian.
Help is for everyone.
Yeah yeah, Asteroid, we already knew you were a lying idiot. But lemme ask
you a couple of questions.
Would you recommend to an amputee that he pray or seek prayer to restore
his missing limb? Why or why not?
How are your above examples of answered prayer qualitatively different from
Tim's lost-car-keys? Mightn't the results have been identical if you hadn't
prayed?
No, I would not recommend that an amputee pray or seek prayer to restore
his missing limb.
Because it doesn't fucking work and you *know* it doesn't.
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I would start with small prayers and thanksgiving. I would work on
gaining truth and pray mostly for others and not yourself.
Praying for others doesn't work either, you lying piece of shit.
Sam, prayer isn't magic, and yes, God answers prayers.
So show us an amputee with a new arm or leg provided through prayer.
ok , you get all of whoever , " us " is together ,
and i'll show , " us " all
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How about He's prolonging the wait as long as possible so that more people will be saved when He returns?
...how about Christians are prolonging the fact that a divine Jesus
never existed and thus Jesus will never be "coming back" because he
never left earth in the first place. ...the best deal they'll ever get
(maybe) is a totaly human, crack pot Jew roaming around the Middle
East, mongering snake oil in the form of a salvation scam.
How about everything you wrote is contradicted by my own prayer and answer experience?
So how many amputees have your prayers helped? Or does your god only answer lost car key prayers, snicker.
I've never prayed for an amputee.
Because you're a fake Christian who only cares about his own car keys.
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Prosthetics helps out.
But you don't, fake Christian.
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But God has answered many prayers. For instance, an out-of-the-blue offer for a $20/hr job, while in Israel, that a Cockatoo that flew away in a large town would be returned, that an ad would appear in the local paper offering training in scuba diving (never seen one in that paper before, and the prayer was answer within weeks), that God would return a stolen taillight lens cap - that someone will show me where it is (guy spotted me at the local gas station), that a someone would help me before the sun set >>(came an fixed the problem just as the sun was setting.
Yet with all your power of prayer you still refuse to help amputees. Tsk tsk.
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You know, God loves you Tim.
I know that there's zero evidence for any gods.
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He can assist you for all sorts of things, according to the faith you have. Are you in sync with His will? Are you praying to help others?
Why aren't you?
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These are the things that count and things I consider when I pray God is like your Father. He'll give you a career, a car, or what not, but He does so like a Father would do. Your Father considers your needs and helps you >out even if you aren't a Christian. Help is for everyone.
So your god helps mechanically incompetent boobs who can't find their car keys, but doesn't give a fuck about amputees. You're pathetic, assroidicus.
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How about He's prolonging the wait as long as possible so that more people will be saved when He returns?
...how about Christians are prolonging the fact that a divine Jesus
never existed and thus Jesus will never be "coming back" because he
never left earth in the first place. ...the best deal they'll ever get
(maybe) is a totaly human, crack pot Jew roaming around the Middle
East, mongering snake oil in the form of a salvation scam.
He may be afraid to face the Christians today. These R not the same humble Christians that he knew. Today the Christians look like the Romans of that time.
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How about He's prolonging the wait as long as possible so that more people will be saved when He returns?
I think more people is leaving than joining. Look at Europe. People don't believe anymore. They R tired of waiting.
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a truly amazing answer.

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How about He's prolonging the wait as long as possible so that more people will be saved when He returns?
____________

Do you not realize that its been nearly 2000 years since that promise. Only a fool would think He's just biding His time because he wants to see more converts?

Didn't the Middle Ages provide enough converts?

And what about all those who have given up on the notion He'll return since its been so long and have turned to agnostics or atheists. By "biding his time," your Jesus is only going to grow the list of those selected for eternal torment and suffering.

Your God goofy in the head or something?

Why not have his "Father" bellow out some thunderous proclamation from the Heavens to the people of earth just to tide the faithful over?

What? "Don't be silly," you say?

Well, yeah--considering make-believe Gods can neither return "return" to earth nor bellow proclamations from the heavens when they're wholly imaginary.

Hell, at least a lot of people claim they've seen Elvis. Why can't a God or two top a "King"?
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How about He's prolonging the wait as long as possible so that more people will be saved when He returns?
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Do you not realize that its been nearly 2000 years since that promise. Only a fool would think He's just biding His time because he wants to see more converts?
Didn't the Middle Ages provide enough converts?
And what about all those who have given up on the notion He'll return since its been so long and have turned to agnostics or atheists. By "biding his time," your Jesus is only going to grow the list of those selected for eternal torment and suffering.
Your God goofy in the head or something?
Why not have his "Father" bellow out some thunderous proclamation from the Heavens to the people of earth just to tide the faithful over?
What? "Don't be silly," you say?
Well, yeah--considering make-believe Gods can neither return "return" to earth nor bellow proclamations from the heavens when they're wholly imaginary.
Hell, at least a lot of people claim they've seen Elvis. Why can't a God or two top a "King"?
Everything God does is set in order. So you have the seven original days and on the seventh day God rested from His work. Likewise with God a thousand years is a day. Since we are now at the 6000th year of God's creation, His coming is due anytime. He prolongs His wait, perhaps in hopes that more people will be saved when He comes. After all, He is a loving God and is not willing that anyone should perish, not even you.
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How about He's prolonging the wait as long as possible so that more people will be saved when He returns?
____________
Do you not realize that its been nearly 2000 years since that promise. Only a fool would think He's just biding His time because he wants to see more converts?
Didn't the Middle Ages provide enough converts?
And what about all those who have given up on the notion He'll return since its been so long and have turned to agnostics or atheists. By "biding his time," your Jesus is only going to grow the list of those selected for eternal torment and suffering.
Your God goofy in the head or something?
Why not have his "Father" bellow out some thunderous proclamation from the Heavens to the people of earth just to tide the faithful over?
What? "Don't be silly," you say?
Well, yeah--considering make-believe Gods can neither return "return" to earth nor bellow proclamations from the heavens when they're wholly imaginary.
Hell, at least a lot of people claim they've seen Elvis. Why can't a God or two top a "King"?
Everything God does is set in order. So you have the seven original days and on the seventh day God rested from His work.
Now, pray tell, would a God need to "rest"? What, was he out diggin' ditches, planting the tree He was going use to trick Eve into sinning?

Likewise with God a thousand years is a day.

Oh, I see. When Jesus told his disciples He would rise from the dead three days AFTER his death (meaning Monday), he meant 3000 *years* after His death. God it!

Uh, He *was* "God," wasn't He?

Since we are now at the 6000th year of God's creation, His coming is due anytime.

Hold on there, Frank Sinatra! If that's the case, why was He so insistent that his then-living disciples be watchful because He could come at any time.

Think they're still a waitin'?

He prolongs His wait, perhaps in hopes that more people will be saved when He comes.

You mean more people heading for eternal torment and suffering because they've been lied to so much they've turned agnostic or atheist.

After all, He is a loving God and is not willing that anyone should perish, not even you.

Really!! Well, why doesn't His Dad bellow out a catchy version of "Stairway to Heaven" from the Heavens in order to keep the faithful, faithful; and gain a ton more converts?

Makes sense to me. How about you?

Oh, that's right. I almost forgot. You can't even sing "My Sharona" when you're completely non-existent. Silly me.
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How about He's prolonging the wait as long as possible so that more people will be saved when He returns?
____________
Do you not realize that its been nearly 2000 years since that promise. Only a fool would think He's just biding His time because he wants to see more converts?
Didn't the Middle Ages provide enough converts?
And what about all those who have given up on the notion He'll return since its been so long and have turned to agnostics or atheists. By "biding his time," your Jesus is only going to grow the list of those selected for eternal torment and suffering.
Your God goofy in the head or something?
Why not have his "Father" bellow out some thunderous proclamation from the Heavens to the people of earth just to tide the faithful over?
What? "Don't be silly," you say?
Well, yeah--considering make-believe Gods can neither return "return" to earth nor bellow proclamations from the heavens when they're wholly imaginary.
Hell, at least a lot of people claim they've seen Elvis. Why can't a God or two top a "King"?
Everything God does is set in order. So you have the seven original days and on the seventh day God rested from His work.
Now, pray tell, would a God need to "rest"?
Why not? Work, work, work and no time to just look at what you've done? Artists do that. That's what work is about.




What, was he out diggin' ditches, planting the tree He was going use to trick Eve into sinning?
God didn't do that.
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Likewise with God a thousand years is a day.
Oh, I see. When Jesus told his disciples He would rise from the dead three days AFTER his death (meaning Monday), he meant 3000 *years* after His death. God it!
No. There are more than one uses of the word day.
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Uh, He *was* "God," wasn't He?
Since we are now at the 6000th year of God's creation, His coming is due anytime.
Hold on there, Frank Sinatra! If that's the case, why was He so insistent that his then-living disciples be watchful because He could come at any time.
He also told His disciples that He did not know when He was coming back but only the Father knew.
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Think they're still a waitin'?
He prolongs His wait, perhaps in hopes that more people will be saved when He comes.
You mean more people heading for eternal torment and suffering because they've been lied to so much they've turned agnostic or atheist.
There is no eternal torment. There is the judgement day and of course, death. You cease to exist.
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After all, He is a loving God and is not willing that anyone should perish, not even you.
Really!! Well, why doesn't His Dad bellow out a catchy version of "Stairway to Heaven" from the Heavens in order to keep the faithful, faithful; and gain a ton more converts?
What point is that? Your true nature wouldn't come out.
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Makes sense to me. How about you?
Oh, that's right. I almost forgot. You can't even sing "My Sharona" when you're completely non-existent. Silly me.
Who cares about "My Sharona." Singing isn't meant to be heard if said singing wasn't broadcast. If you heard singing you were invading. And nobody consents to that. If you go against someone's consent you're inviting people to invade without your consent.
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How about He's prolonging the wait as long as possible so that more people will be saved when He returns?
____________
Do you not realize that its been nearly 2000 years since that promise. Only a fool would think He's just biding His time because he wants to see more converts?
Didn't the Middle Ages provide enough converts?
And what about all those who have given up on the notion He'll return since its been so long and have turned to agnostics or atheists. By "biding his time," your Jesus is only going to grow the list of those selected for eternal torment and suffering.
Your God goofy in the head or something?
Why not have his "Father" bellow out some thunderous proclamation from the Heavens to the people of earth just to tide the faithful over?
What? "Don't be silly," you say?
Well, yeah--considering make-believe Gods can neither return "return" to earth nor bellow proclamations from the heavens when they're wholly imaginary.
Hell, at least a lot of people claim they've seen Elvis. Why can't a God or two top a "King"?
Everything God does is set in order. So you have the seven original days and on the seventh day God rested from His work.
Now, pray tell, would a God need to "rest"?
Why not? Work, work, work and no time to just look at what you've done? Artists do that. That's what work is about.
Uh, a God only need *think* something into existence and it would exist. I don't think a God would even break a sweat doing that.
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What, was he out diggin' ditches, planting the tree He was going use to trick Eve into sinning?
God didn't do that.
Oh no? Who do you think planted that tree> Some landscaper from God's Landscaping Company Incorporated?

Oh, you mean that part where God used that tree to have Eve tricked into sinning?

Well, let's look and see what happened:

1. The God Jesus creates everything in existence--including evil--and creates a tree that unleashes evil into world by the first person who partakes of the fruit of a tree that embodies very evil itself.

2. God, presumably God the Father, plants that tree practically in the lap of Adam & Eve and then tells them not to partake any of its fruit or they will die. (Note, He doesn't even tell them what evil is, just that they're not to partake of the fruit.) Oh,God already knows that Eve will partake of the fruit due to His omniscience. But does He give a flyin' Hoot? Hell, NO!

3. The God Jesus creates an evil serpent with the evil ability to lie, deceive, and beguile the unsuspecting pair. God then sees to it that the evil serpent is *also* placed in close proximity to the unsuspecting couple, gleefully wringing his hands after having done so.

4. Now, Eve hasn't the faintest clue as to what "disobeying" really means. That's because she has no concept of what it truly means to "disobey." And that's because she has no clue whatsoever as to what evil is at this point. In any event . . .

5. God's evil serpent approaches Eve and tells her that God said it's perfectly fine for her to go ahead and partake of the fruit now--that God told him to tell her it's no longer "forbidden."

6. Trusting Eve--who has no idea whatsoever what a "lie" or deceit is--takes the evil serpent at his word and partakes of the fruit. Meanwhile, God the Father, the Holy Spirit God, and the God Jesus are standing by, snickering to themselves, as to what is about to unfold.

7. Eve partakes of the fruit and only *now* realizes she has disobeyed God, but was "tricked" into doing so. But it's too late. Evil has now been unleashed upon planet earth. And the three Gods weren't *about* to do a damn thing about it.

8. SIDEBAR - God had already unleashed evil in Heaven prior to this time. He wanted Lucifer to turn evil and did so by inventing "Free-Will." A ploy He used as a tool to infect Lucifer and an "army" of angels into rebelling--knowing full well what the consequences of His monstrous action would entail.

9. God now pretends He's upset that Adam & Eve disobeyed Him. Instead of saying," Oh, you two, I was just having a little fun. Go now. Go play with the lions. I forgive you! After all, you were tricked." No. Instead, "God" then proceed to insure death and suffering afflicts ALL of humanity--even generations of humans who had absolutely NOTHING to do with what Adam & Eve did. And not only that, God decides the animal world should be made to experience death and suffering as well. And the kicker is that He and His evil-creating Son are sitting on their thrones in Heaven laughing their asses off watching brainwashed idiots worshiping and adoring them for what they've done.

Hey! That would include *you* too!

Don't you feel rather stupid now?
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Likewise with God a thousand years is a day.
Oh, I see. When Jesus told his disciples He would rise from the dead three days AFTER his death (meaning Monday), he meant 3000 *years* after His death. God it!
No. There are more than one uses of the word day.
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Uh, He *was* "God," wasn't He?
Since we are now at the 6000th year of God's creation, His coming is due anytime.
Hold on there, Frank Sinatra! If that's the case, why was He so insistent that his then-living disciples be watchful because He could come at any time.
He also told His disciples that He did not know when He was coming back but only the Father knew.
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Think they're still a waitin'?
He prolongs His wait, perhaps in hopes that more people will be saved when He comes.
You mean more people heading for eternal torment and suffering because they've been lied to so much they've turned agnostic or atheist.
There is no eternal torment. There is the judgement day and of course, death. You cease to exist.
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After all, He is a loving God and is not willing that anyone should perish, not even you.
Really!! Well, why doesn't His Dad bellow out a catchy version of "Stairway to Heaven" from the Heavens in order to keep the faithful, faithful; and gain a ton more converts?
What point is that? Your true nature wouldn't come out.
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Makes sense to me. How about you?
Oh, that's right. I almost forgot. You can't even sing "My Sharona" when you're completely non-existent. Silly me.
Who cares about "My Sharona." Singing isn't meant to be heard if said singing wasn't broadcast. If you heard singing you were invading. And nobody consents to that. If you go against someone's consent you're inviting people to invade without your consent.
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I think Christians deserve some answers.
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How about He's prolonging the wait as long as possible so that more people will be saved when He returns?
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Do you not realize that its been nearly 2000 years since that promise. Only a fool would think He's just biding His time because he wants to see more converts?
Didn't the Middle Ages provide enough converts?
And what about all those who have given up on the notion He'll return since its been so long and have turned to agnostics or atheists. By "biding his time," your Jesus is only going to grow the list of those selected for eternal torment and suffering.
Your God goofy in the head or something?
Why not have his "Father" bellow out some thunderous proclamation from the Heavens to the people of earth just to tide the faithful over?
What? "Don't be silly," you say?
Well, yeah--considering make-believe Gods can neither return "return" to earth nor bellow proclamations from the heavens when they're wholly imaginary.
Hell, at least a lot of people claim they've seen Elvis. Why can't a God or two top a "King"?
Everything God does is set in order. So you have the seven original days and on the seventh day God rested from His work.
Now, pray tell, would a God need to "rest"?
Why not? Work, work, work and no time to just look at what you've done? Artists do that. That's what work is about.
Uh, a God only need *think* something into existence and it would exist. I don't think a God would even break a sweat doing that.
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What, was he out diggin' ditches, planting the tree He was going use to trick Eve into sinning?
God didn't do that.
Oh no? Who do you think planted that tree> Some landscaper from God's Landscaping Company Incorporated?
Oh, you mean that part where God used that tree to have Eve tricked into sinning?
1. The God Jesus creates everything in existence--including evil--and creates a tree that unleashes evil into the world by the first person who partakes of the fruit of a tree that embodies very evil itself.
2. God, presumably God the Father, plants that tree practically in the lap of Adam & Eve and then tells them not to partake any of its fruit or they will die. (Note, He doesn't even tell them what evil is, just that they're not to partake of the fruit.) Oh, God already knows that Eve will partake of the fruit due to His omniscience. But does He give a flyin' Hoot? Why Hell, NO!!
3. The God Jesus creates an evil serpent with the evil ability to lie, deceive, and beguile the unsuspecting pair. God then sees to it that the evil serpent is *also* placed in close proximity to the unsuspecting couple, gleefully wringing his hands after having done so.
4. Now, Eve hasn't the faintest clue as to what "disobeying" really means. That's because she has no concept of what it truly means to "disobey." And that's because she has no clue whatsoever as to what evil is at this point. In any event . . .
5. God's evil serpent approaches Eve and tells her that God said it's perfectly fine for her to go ahead and partake of the fruit now--that God told him to tell her it's no longer "forbidden." Trust me," he tells her.
6. Trusting Eve--who has no idea whatsoever what a "lie" or deceit is--takes the evil serpent at his word and partakes of the fruit. Meanwhile, God the Father, the Holy Spirit God, and the God Jesus are standing by, snickering to themselves like there's no tomorrow, as to what is about to unfold.
7. Eve partakes of the fruit and only *now* realizes she has disobeyed God, but was "tricked" into doing so. But it's too late. Evil has now been unleashed upon planet earth. And the three Gods weren't *about* to do a damn thing about it.
8. SIDEBAR - God had already unleashed evil in Heaven prior to this time. He wanted Lucifer to turn evil and did so by inventing "Free-Will"; a ploy He used as a tool to infect Lucifer and an "army" of angels with evil and into rebelling--knowing full well what the consequences of His monstrous action would entail.
9. God now pretends He's upset that Adam & Eve disobeyed Him. Instead of saying," Oh, you two, I was just having a little fun. Go now. Go play with the lions. I forgive you! After all, you were tricked."
10. Instead, "God" malevolently then proceeds to insure death and suffering afflicts ALL of humanity--even generations of humans who had absolutely NOTHING to do with what Adam & Eve did. And not only that, God decides the animal world should be made to experience death and suffering as well. And the kicker is that He and His evil-creating Son are sitting on their thrones in Heaven laughing their asses off watching brainwashed idiots worshiping and adoring them for what they've so fiendishly accompished.
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Hey! That would include *you* too!
Don't you feel rather stupid now?
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Likewise with God a thousand years is a day.
Oh, I see. When Jesus told his disciples He would rise from the dead three days AFTER his death (meaning Monday), he meant 3000 *years* after His death. God it!
No. There are more than one uses of the word day.
You'll notice that man uses a human time clock, not your imaginary God''s wristwatch.
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Uh, He *was* "God," wasn't He?
Since we are now at the 6000th year of God's creation, His coming is due anytime.
Hold on there, Frank Sinatra! If that's the case, why was He so insistent that his then-living disciples be watchful because He could come at any time.
He also told His disciples that He did not know when He was coming back but only the Father knew.
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Think they're still a waitin'?
He prolongs His wait, perhaps in hopes that more people will be saved when He comes.
You mean more people heading for eternal torment and suffering because they've been lied to so much they've turned agnostic or atheist, don't you?
There is no eternal torment. There is the judgement day and of course, death. You cease to exist.
No "Lake of Fire," eh?
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After all, He is a loving God and is not willing that anyone should perish, not even you.
Now explain how a "loving" being could *deliberately* create very evil itself and in any sense be actually loving. And don't come back with that nonsensical reply that God only "allowed" evil to enter into existence. That's not explaining where it actually originated. John 1:3, Colossians 1:16, and Revelation 4:11 *does*.
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Really!! Well, why doesn't His Dad bellow out a catchy version of "Stairway to Heaven" from the Heavens in order to keep the faithful, faithful; and gain a ton more converts?
What point is that? Your true nature wouldn't come out.
I see. So God wants people to suffer eternal torment and suffering rather than reveal Himself to us humans in any irrefutable way.

Ever wonder why finds it so impossible to prove He truly exists to atheists? Is disbelief God's "kryptonite"?
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Makes sense to me. How about you?
Oh, that's right. I almost forgot. You can't even sing "My Sharona" when you're completely non-existent. Silly me.
Who cares about "My Sharona." Singing isn't meant to be heard if said singing wasn't broadcast.
Oh, C'mon! God bellowing out My Sharona from the Heavens and doing it with his God face plastered all over earth sky at the same time would gain Him a *ton* of converts! And wouldn't a God be pleased as punch if He could even gain even just *one* more convert?

If you heard singing you were invading. And nobody consents to that. If you go against someone's consent you're inviting people to invade without your consent.

That's about one of the stupidest pieces of Christian apologetics I've ever seen. But then again, you're not "true" Christian. Real Christians don't stoop to what you do. And they *never* lie the way you do.

All you do is help give the Christian religion a black eye.
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Is it that things R not bad enough or that he's taking a comfy
vacation somewhere in cloud nine?
I think Christians deserve some answers.
The coming of the Messiah for Jews
The return of Jesus for Christians
The return of the 12th Imam (the Mahdi) for Shi'a Muslims

All these expectations bring to mind the yearning for the return of the
Golden Age of Saturn, which was commemorated so fondly in antiquity.

Marcello Craveri wrote the following on Page 39 of "The Life of Jesus,"
Grove Press (1967) [translation of: "La vita di Gesù," Feltrinelli
Editore, Milano (1966)]

http://www.amazon.com/Life-Jesus-Marcello-Craveri/dp/0880012382/

"In Rome the feast of Sol Invictus always marked the end of a festival
even more ancient but equally dedicated to the celebration of the
self-renewal of nature: the Saturnalia. Based on the mythical era of
the god Saturn, supposed to have been an age of happiness, peace, and
brotherhood among all men"
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Is it that things R not bad enough or that he's taking a comfy
vacation somewhere in cloud nine?
I think Christians deserve some answers.
The coming of the Messiah for Jews
The return of Jesus for Christians
The return of the 12th Imam (the Mahdi) for Shi'a Muslims
All these expectations bring to mind the yearning for the return of the
Golden Age of Saturn, which was commemorated so fondly in antiquity.
Marcello Craveri wrote the following on Page 39 of "The Life of Jesus,"
Grove Press (1967) [translation of: "La vita di Gesù," Feltrinelli
Editore, Milano (1966)]
http://www.amazon.com/Life-Jesus-Marcello-Craveri/dp/0880012382/
"In Rome the feast of Sol Invictus always marked the end of a festival
even more ancient but equally dedicated to the celebration of the
self-renewal of nature: the Saturnalia. Based on the mythical era of
the god Saturn, supposed to have been an age of happiness, peace, and
brotherhood among all men"
___________

Just wanted to let you know that I *did* order Craveri's book. Did so today.

I'm hoping it'll provide me with a view of Jesus that's not the same old song-and-dance in new packaging.
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Is it that things R not bad enough or that he's taking a comfy
vacation somewhere in cloud nine?
I think Christians deserve some answers.
The coming of the Messiah for Jews
The return of Jesus for Christians
The return of the 12th Imam (the Mahdi) for Shi'a Muslims
All these expectations bring to mind the yearning for the return of the
Golden Age of Saturn, which was commemorated so fondly in antiquity.
Marcello Craveri wrote the following on Page 39 of "The Life of Jesus,"
Grove Press (1967) [translation of: "La vita di Gesù," Feltrinelli
Editore, Milano (1966)]
http://www.amazon.com/Life-Jesus-Marcello-Craveri/dp/0880012382/
"In Rome the feast of Sol Invictus always marked the end of a festival
even more ancient but equally dedicated to the celebration of the
self-renewal of nature: the Saturnalia. Based on the mythical era of
the god Saturn, supposed to have been an age of happiness, peace, and
brotherhood among all men"
___________
Just wanted to let you know that I *did* order Craveri's book. Did so today.
I'm hoping it'll provide me with a view of Jesus that's not the same old song-and-dance in new packaging.
There's only one Jesus Christ.

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Is it that things R not bad enough or that he's taking a comfy
vacation somewhere in cloud nine?
I think Christians deserve some answers.
The coming of the Messiah for Jews
The return of Jesus for Christians
The return of the 12th Imam (the Mahdi) for Shi'a Muslims
All these expectations bring to mind the yearning for the return of the
Golden Age of Saturn, which was commemorated so fondly in antiquity.
Marcello Craveri wrote the following on Page 39 of "The Life of Jesus,"
Grove Press (1967) [translation of: "La vita di Gesů," Feltrinelli
Editore, Milano (1966)]
http://www.amazon.com/Life-Jesus-Marcello-Craveri/dp/0880012382/
"In Rome the feast of Sol Invictus always marked the end of a festival
even more ancient but equally dedicated to the celebration of the
self-renewal of nature: the Saturnalia. Based on the mythical era of
the god Saturn, supposed to have been an age of happiness, peace, and
brotherhood among all men"
___________
Just wanted to let you know that I *did* order Craveri's book. Did so today.
I'm hoping it'll provide me with a view of Jesus that's not the same old song-and-dance in new packaging.
There's only one Jesus Christ.
That's a problem with Jesus. There R many Tibetan Monkeys.
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Is it that things R not bad enough or that he's taking a comfy
vacation somewhere in cloud nine?
I think Christians deserve some answers.
The coming of the Messiah for Jews
The return of Jesus for Christians
The return of the 12th Imam (the Mahdi) for Shi'a Muslims
All these expectations bring to mind the yearning for the return of the
Golden Age of Saturn, which was commemorated so fondly in antiquity.
Marcello Craveri wrote the following on Page 39 of "The Life of Jesus,"
Grove Press (1967) [translation of: "La vita di Gesů," Feltrinelli
Editore, Milano (1966)]
http://www.amazon.com/Life-Jesus-Marcello-Craveri/dp/0880012382/
"In Rome the feast of Sol Invictus always marked the end of a festival
even more ancient but equally dedicated to the celebration of the
self-renewal of nature: the Saturnalia. Based on the mythical era of
the god Saturn, supposed to have been an age of happiness, peace, and
brotherhood among all men"
___________
Just wanted to let you know that I *did* order Craveri's book. Did so today.
I'm hoping it'll provide me with a view of Jesus that's not the same old song-and-dance in new packaging.
There's only one Jesus Christ.
That's a problem with Jesus. There R many Tibetan Monkeys.
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Is it that things R not bad enough or that he's taking a comfy
vacation somewhere in cloud nine?
I think Christians deserve some answers.
The coming of the Messiah for Jews
The return of Jesus for Christians
The return of the 12th Imam (the Mahdi) for Shi'a Muslims
All these expectations bring to mind the yearning for the return of the
Golden Age of Saturn, which was commemorated so fondly in antiquity.
Marcello Craveri wrote the following on Page 39 of "The Life of Jesus,"
Grove Press (1967) [translation of: "La vita di Gesů," Feltrinelli
Editore, Milano (1966)]
http://www.amazon.com/Life-Jesus-Marcello-Craveri/dp/0880012382/
"In Rome the feast of Sol Invictus always marked the end of a festival
even more ancient but equally dedicated to the celebration of the
self-renewal of nature: the Saturnalia. Based on the mythical era of
the god Saturn, supposed to have been an age of happiness, peace, and
brotherhood among all men"
___________
Just wanted to let you know that I *did* order Craveri's book. Did so today.
I'm hoping it'll provide me with a view of Jesus that's not the same old song-and-dance in new packaging.
There's only one Jesus Christ.
the dukester, American-American
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Did you just crap in your pants, duke?
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Is it that things R not bad enough or that he's taking a comfy
vacation somewhere in cloud nine?
I think Christians deserve some answers.
The coming of the Messiah for Jews
The return of Jesus for Christians
The return of the 12th Imam (the Mahdi) for Shi'a Muslims
All these expectations bring to mind the yearning for the return of the
Golden Age of Saturn, which was commemorated so fondly in antiquity.
Marcello Craveri wrote the following on Page 39 of "The Life of Jesus,"
Grove Press (1967) [translation of: "La vita di Gesù," Feltrinelli
Editore, Milano (1966)]
http://www.amazon.com/Life-Jesus-Marcello-Craveri/dp/0880012382/
"In Rome the feast of Sol Invictus always marked the end of a festival
even more ancient but equally dedicated to the celebration of the
self-renewal of nature: the Saturnalia. Based on the mythical era of
the god Saturn, supposed to have been an age of happiness, peace, and
brotherhood among all men"
___________
Just wanted to let you know that I *did* order Craveri's book.
Did so today.
I'm hoping it'll provide me with a view of Jesus that's not the
same old song-and-dance in new packaging.
My feeling is that you will enjoy reading the book. It definitely
is not the same old song-and-dance.
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Is it that things R not bad enough or that he's taking a comfy
vacation somewhere in cloud nine?
I think Christians deserve some answers.
The coming of the Messiah for Jews
The return of Jesus for Christians
The return of the 12th Imam (the Mahdi) for Shi'a Muslims
All these expectations bring to mind the yearning for the return of the
Golden Age of Saturn, which was commemorated so fondly in antiquity.
Marcello Craveri wrote the following on Page 39 of "The Life of Jesus,"
Grove Press (1967) [translation of: "La vita di Gesù," Feltrinelli
Editore, Milano (1966)]
http://www.amazon.com/Life-Jesus-Marcello-Craveri/dp/0880012382/
"In Rome the feast of Sol Invictus always marked the end of a festival
even more ancient but equally dedicated to the celebration of the
self-renewal of nature: the Saturnalia. Based on the mythical era of
the god Saturn, supposed to have been an age of happiness, peace, and
brotherhood among all men"
___________
Just wanted to let you know that I *did* order Craveri's book. Did so today.
I'm hoping it'll provide me with a view of Jesus that's not the
same old song-and-dance in new packaging.
My feeling is that you will enjoy reading the book. It definitely
is not the same old song-and-dance.
_______

One reviewer on Amazon referred to it as an "Unknown classic." He further adds "He [Craveri] goes where the evidence leads him, sometimes landing on traditional interpretations and sometimes supporting non-traditional views."

That's my kind of writer.
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