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Dozens die as Fuego volcano erupts
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Peter Pan
2018-06-04 09:47:30 UTC
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside
their homes. Hundreds were injured and many are
missing. The country's main airport is closed...

Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and
engulfed villages. Ash reached up to more than 6km.

This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since
1902, when an eruption of the Santa Maria volcano
killed thousands of people...

Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National
Disaster Management Agency (Conred), said the town
of El Rodeo had been "buried".

<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>

Why didn't Andrew warn them?

Was it God's judgment?
aaa
2018-06-04 12:12:52 UTC
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside
their homes. Hundreds were injured and many are
missing. The country's main airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and
engulfed villages. Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since
1902, when an eruption of the Santa Maria volcano
killed thousands of people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National
Disaster Management Agency (Conred), said the town
of El Rodeo had been "buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only the
results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from suffering.
God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the justice that ends
all evil.
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Mitchell Holman
2018-06-04 12:42:41 UTC
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside
their homes. Hundreds were injured and many are
missing. The country's main airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and
engulfed villages. Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since
1902, when an eruption of the Santa Maria volcano
killed thousands of people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National
Disaster Management Agency (Conred), said the town
of El Rodeo had been "buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only the
results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from suffering.
God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the justice that ends
all evil.
If human sufferings are from human sin
are animal sufferings from animal sin?
aaa
2018-06-04 13:24:40 UTC
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside
their homes. Hundreds were injured and many are
missing. The country's main airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and
engulfed villages. Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since
1902, when an eruption of the Santa Maria volcano
killed thousands of people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National
Disaster Management Agency (Conred), said the town
of El Rodeo had been "buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only the
results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from suffering.
God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the justice that ends
all evil.
If human sufferings are from human sin
are animal sufferings from animal sin?
No, all sufferings in this world come from the human sin.
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Mitchell Holman
2018-06-04 18:10:39 UTC
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside
their homes. Hundreds were injured and many are
missing. The country's main airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and
engulfed villages. Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since
1902, when an eruption of the Santa Maria volcano
killed thousands of people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National
Disaster Management Agency (Conred), said the town
of El Rodeo had been "buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only the
results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from suffering.
God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the justice that ends
all evil.
If human sufferings are from human sin
are animal sufferings from animal sin?
No, all sufferings in this world come from the human sin.
Human sin caused animal sufferings before
humans even existed?
aaa
2018-06-04 20:33:05 UTC
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside
their homes. Hundreds were injured and many are
missing. The country's main airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and
engulfed villages. Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since
1902, when an eruption of the Santa Maria volcano
killed thousands of people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National
Disaster Management Agency (Conred), said the town
of El Rodeo had been "buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only the
results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from suffering.
God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the justice that ends
all evil.
If human sufferings are from human sin
are animal sufferings from animal sin?
No, all sufferings in this world come from the human sin.
Human sin caused animal sufferings before
humans even existed?
How do you know there was animal suffering before humans existed?
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Smiler
2018-06-04 23:48:53 UTC
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside their homes.
Hundreds were injured and many are missing. The country's
main airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and engulfed
villages. Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since 1902, when an
eruption of the Santa Maria volcano killed thousands of
people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National Disaster
Management Agency (Conred), said the town of El Rodeo had
been "buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only the
results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from
suffering.
God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the justice that
ends all evil.
If human sufferings are from human sin
are animal sufferings from animal sin?
No, all sufferings in this world come from the human sin.
Human sin caused animal sufferings before
humans even existed?
How do you know there was animal suffering before humans existed?
How do you know there wasn't?
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aaa
2018-06-05 13:06:31 UTC
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside their homes.
Hundreds were injured and many are missing. The country's
main airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and engulfed
villages. Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since 1902, when an
eruption of the Santa Maria volcano killed thousands of
people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National Disaster
Management Agency (Conred), said the town of El Rodeo had
been "buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only the
results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from suffering.
God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the justice that
ends all evil.
If human sufferings are from human sin
are animal sufferings from animal sin?
No, all sufferings in this world come from the human sin.
Human sin caused animal sufferings before
humans even existed?
How do you know there was animal suffering before humans existed?
How do you know there wasn't?
I don't. That's why I only talk about things in this human world.
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Mitchell Holman
2018-06-05 17:43:25 UTC
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside their
homes. Hundreds were injured and many are missing. The
country's main airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and engulfed
villages. Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since 1902,
when an eruption of the Santa Maria volcano killed
thousands of people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National
Disaster Management Agency (Conred), said the town of
El Rodeo had been "buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only
the results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from
suffering.
God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the justice that
ends all evil.
If human sufferings are from human sin
are animal sufferings from animal sin?
No, all sufferings in this world come from the human sin.
Human sin caused animal sufferings before
humans even existed?
How do you know there was animal suffering before humans existed?
How do you know there wasn't?
I don't. That's why I only talk about things in this human world.
Like your "spiritual dinosaurs"?

LOL!





"Dragons are dinosaurs that survived their
destruction by existing spiritually. They
are spiritual creatures that can only be
seen by people with their spiritual eyes
opened. They are still with us today, but
few of us can see them."
"aaa", Feb 9 2018
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2018-06-05 19:06:24 UTC
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside their
homes. Hundreds were injured and many are missing. The
country's main airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and engulfed
villages. Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since 1902,
when an eruption of the Santa Maria volcano killed
thousands of people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National
Disaster Management Agency (Conred), said the town of
El Rodeo had been "buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only
the results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from
suffering.
God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the justice that
ends all evil.
If human sufferings are from human sin
are animal sufferings from animal sin?
No, all sufferings in this world come from the human sin.
Human sin caused animal sufferings before
humans even existed?
How do you know there was animal suffering before humans existed?
How do you know there wasn't?
I don't. That's why I only talk about things in this human world.
Like your "spiritual dinosaurs"?
Exactly.
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LOL!
"Dragons are dinosaurs that survived their
destruction by existing spiritually. They
are spiritual creatures that can only be
seen by people with their spiritual eyes
opened. They are still with us today, but
few of us can see them."
"aaa", Feb 9 2018
http://tinyurl.com/y7eg3xb4
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2018-06-04 23:56:15 UTC
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside
their homes. Hundreds were injured and many are
missing. The country's main airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and
engulfed villages. Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since
1902, when an eruption of the Santa Maria volcano
killed thousands of people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National
Disaster Management Agency (Conred), said the town
of El Rodeo had been "buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only the
results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from suffering.
God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the justice that ends
all evil.
If human sufferings are from human sin
are animal sufferings from animal sin?
No, all sufferings in this world come from the human sin.
Human sin caused animal sufferings before
humans even existed?
How do you know there was animal suffering before humans existed?
How do you know there wasn't?
Yosemite Sam
2018-06-04 23:59:25 UTC
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Newsflash: he never said there wasn't
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2018-06-05 00:01:04 UTC
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside
their homes. Hundreds were injured and many are
missing. The country's main airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and
engulfed villages. Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since
1902, when an eruption of the Santa Maria volcano
killed thousands of people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National
Disaster Management Agency (Conred), said the town
of El Rodeo had been "buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only the
results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from suffering.
God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the justice that ends
all evil.
If human sufferings are from human sin
are animal sufferings from animal sin?
No, all sufferings in this world come from the human sin.
Human sin caused animal sufferings before
humans even existed?
How do you know there was animal suffering before humans existed?
How do you know there wasn't?
the bible says so
aaa
2018-06-05 13:08:35 UTC
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside
their homes. Hundreds were injured and many are
missing. The country's main airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and
engulfed villages. Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since
1902, when an eruption of the Santa Maria volcano
killed thousands of people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National
Disaster Management Agency (Conred), said the town
of El Rodeo had been "buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only the
results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from suffering.
God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the justice that ends
all evil.
If human sufferings are from human sin
are animal sufferings from animal sin?
No, all sufferings in this world come from the human sin.
Human sin caused animal sufferings before
humans even existed?
How do you know there was animal suffering before humans existed?
How do you know there wasn't?
the bible says so
That's right. The Bible said that God created the world, and the world
was good. So there wasn't any suffering before humans sinned.
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Mitchell Holman
2018-06-05 17:48:11 UTC
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside
their homes. Hundreds were injured and many are
missing. The country's main airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and
engulfed villages. Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since
1902, when an eruption of the Santa Maria volcano
killed thousands of people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National
Disaster Management Agency (Conred), said the town
of El Rodeo had been "buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only the
results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from suffering.
God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the justice that ends
all evil.
If human sufferings are from human sin
are animal sufferings from animal sin?
No, all sufferings in this world come from the human sin.
Human sin caused animal sufferings before
humans even existed?
How do you know there was animal suffering before humans existed?
How do you know there wasn't?
the bible says so
That's right. The Bible said that God created the world, and the world
was good. So there wasn't any suffering before humans sinned.
So carnivores just didn't eat anything
prior to human sin? Or perhaps all their prey
just stoned on Xanax to the point they didn't
suffer while being eaten alive?
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside
their homes. Hundreds were injured and many are
missing. The country's main airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and
engulfed villages. Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since
1902, when an eruption of the Santa Maria volcano
killed thousands of people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National
Disaster Management Agency (Conred), said the town
of El Rodeo had been "buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only
the
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results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from suffering.
God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the justice that ends
all evil.
If human sufferings are from human sin
are animal sufferings from animal sin?
No, all sufferings in this world come from the human sin.
Human sin caused animal sufferings before
humans even existed?
How do you know there was animal suffering before humans existed?
How do you know there wasn't?
the bible says so
That's right. The Bible said that God created the world, and the world
was good. So there wasn't any suffering before humans sinned.
So carnivores just didn't eat anything
prior to human sin? Or perhaps all their prey
just stoned on Xanax to the point they didn't
suffer while being eaten alive?
No.

Suffering is entirely a philosophical concept based on the human
intelligence. Only the human intelligence is capable to perceive and
project suffering onto itself and the world. Without the human
intelligence, there is no projection of suffering, so there is no one to
suffer such suffering. Life in nature is simply a challenge instead of a
suffering.
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Mitchell Holman
2018-06-06 01:59:54 UTC
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside
their homes. Hundreds were injured and many are
missing. The country's main airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and
engulfed villages. Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since
1902, when an eruption of the Santa Maria volcano
killed thousands of people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National
Disaster Management Agency (Conred), said the town
of El Rodeo had been "buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only
the
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results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from suffering.
God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the justice
that
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ends
all evil.
If human sufferings are from human sin
are animal sufferings from animal sin?
No, all sufferings in this world come from the human sin.
Human sin caused animal sufferings before
humans even existed?
How do you know there was animal suffering before humans existed?
How do you know there wasn't?
the bible says so
That's right. The Bible said that God created the world, and the world
was good. So there wasn't any suffering before humans sinned.
So carnivores just didn't eat anything
prior to human sin? Or perhaps all their prey
just stoned on Xanax to the point they didn't
suffer while being eaten alive?
No.
Suffering is entirely a philosophical concept based on the human
intelligence. Only the human intelligence is capable to perceive and
project suffering onto itself and the world. Without the human
intelligence, there is no projection of suffering, so there is no one to
suffer such suffering.
Amazing.

Animals in the wild don't suffer even
as they are being torn apart and eaten.

And you know this how, again?
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside
their homes. Hundreds were injured and many are
missing. The country's main airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and
engulfed villages. Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since
1902, when an eruption of the Santa Maria volcano
killed thousands of people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National
Disaster Management Agency (Conred), said the town
of El Rodeo had been "buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only
the
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results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from suffering.
God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the justice
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ends
all evil.
If human sufferings are from human sin
are animal sufferings from animal sin?
No, all sufferings in this world come from the human sin.
Human sin caused animal sufferings before
humans even existed?
How do you know there was animal suffering before humans existed?
How do you know there wasn't?
the bible says so
That's right. The Bible said that God created the world, and the
world
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was good. So there wasn't any suffering before humans sinned.
So carnivores just didn't eat anything
prior to human sin? Or perhaps all their prey
just stoned on Xanax to the point they didn't
suffer while being eaten alive?
No.
Suffering is entirely a philosophical concept based on the human
intelligence. Only the human intelligence is capable to perceive and
project suffering onto itself and the world. Without the human
intelligence, there is no projection of suffering, so there is no one
to
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suffer such suffering.
Amazing.
Animals in the wild don't suffer even
as they are being torn apart and eaten.
And you know this how, again?
That's not what I meant. I believe animals don't have the mental
capacity to understand suffering. They do have to endure whatever
happens, but they don't have to conceptualize it as suffering. It's an
inability, but it happens to be an advantage also.
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Human sin caused animal sufferings before
humans even existed?
How do you know there was animal suffering before humans existed?
How do you know there wasn't?
the bible says so
That's right. The Bible said that God created the world, and the
world
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was good. So there wasn't any suffering before humans sinned.
So carnivores just didn't eat anything
prior to human sin? Or perhaps all their prey
just stoned on Xanax to the point they didn't
suffer while being eaten alive?
No.
Suffering is entirely a philosophical concept based on the human
intelligence. Only the human intelligence is capable to perceive and
project suffering onto itself and the world. Without the human
intelligence, there is no projection of suffering, so there is no one
to
Post by aaa
suffer such suffering.
Amazing.
Animals in the wild don't suffer even
as they are being torn apart and eaten.
And you know this how, again?
That's not what I meant. I believe animals don't have the mental
capacity to understand suffering. They do have to endure whatever
happens, but they don't have to conceptualize it as suffering.
How do YOU know what animals
"conceptualize" about suffering?
Do they communicate with you in
some way?
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Human sin caused animal sufferings before
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How do you know there wasn't?
the bible says so
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world
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was good. So there wasn't any suffering before humans sinned.
So carnivores just didn't eat anything
prior to human sin? Or perhaps all their prey just stoned on Xanax
to the point they didn't suffer while being eaten alive?
No.
Suffering is entirely a philosophical concept based on the human
intelligence. Only the human intelligence is capable to perceive and
project suffering onto itself and the world. Without the human
intelligence, there is no projection of suffering, so there is no one
to suffer such suffering.
Amazing.
Animals in the wild don't suffer even
as they are being torn apart and eaten.
And you know this how, again?
That's not what I meant. I believe animals don't have the mental
capacity to understand suffering. They do have to endure whatever
happens, but they don't have to conceptualize it as suffering.
How do YOU know what animals
"conceptualize" about suffering?
Do they communicate with you in some way?
He's Dr. Knowlittle.
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How do you know there wasn't?
the bible says so
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world
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was good. So there wasn't any suffering before humans sinned.
So carnivores just didn't eat anything
prior to human sin? Or perhaps all their prey just stoned on Xanax
to the point they didn't suffer while being eaten alive?
No.
Suffering is entirely a philosophical concept based on the human
intelligence. Only the human intelligence is capable to perceive and
project suffering onto itself and the world. Without the human
intelligence, there is no projection of suffering, so there is no one
to suffer such suffering.
Amazing.
Animals in the wild don't suffer even
as they are being torn apart and eaten.
And you know this how, again?
That's not what I meant. I believe animals don't have the mental
capacity to understand suffering. They do have to endure whatever
happens, but they don't have to conceptualize it as suffering.
How do YOU know what animals
"conceptualize" about suffering?
Do they communicate with you in some way?
He's Dr. Knowlittle.
Dr. Knowlittle, the Amazing Animal Afflictor.
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How do you know there wasn't?
the bible says so
That's right. The Bible said that God created the world, and the
world
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was good. So there wasn't any suffering before humans sinned.
So carnivores just didn't eat anything
prior to human sin? Or perhaps all their prey
just stoned on Xanax to the point they didn't
suffer while being eaten alive?
No.
Suffering is entirely a philosophical concept based on the human
intelligence. Only the human intelligence is capable to perceive and
project suffering onto itself and the world. Without the human
intelligence, there is no projection of suffering, so there is no one
to
Post by aaa
suffer such suffering.
Amazing.
Animals in the wild don't suffer even
as they are being torn apart and eaten.
And you know this how, again?
That's not what I meant. I believe animals don't have the mental
capacity to understand suffering. They do have to endure whatever
happens, but they don't have to conceptualize it as suffering.
How do YOU know what animals
"conceptualize" about suffering?
Do they communicate with you in
some way?
It's based on my understanding of suffering. When talking about
suffering, it's always the self that suffers. So it's because of
self-awareness, there is suffering. Animals are not self-aware. So they
don't have to take their experience as suffering.
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How do you know there wasn't?
the bible says so
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world
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was good. So there wasn't any suffering before humans sinned.
So carnivores just didn't eat anything
prior to human sin? Or perhaps all their prey
just stoned on Xanax to the point they didn't
suffer while being eaten alive?
No.
Suffering is entirely a philosophical concept based on the human
intelligence. Only the human intelligence is capable to perceive and
project suffering onto itself and the world. Without the human
intelligence, there is no projection of suffering, so there is no one
to
Post by aaa
suffer such suffering.
Amazing.
Animals in the wild don't suffer even
as they are being torn apart and eaten.
And you know this how, again?
That's not what I meant. I believe animals don't have the mental
capacity to understand suffering. They do have to endure whatever
happens, but they don't have to conceptualize it as suffering.
How do YOU know what animals
"conceptualize" about suffering?
Do they communicate with you in
some way?
It's based on my understanding of suffering.
"A personal understanding is no different from
a claim. It still needs to be proven first."
"aaa", March 28 2018
http://tinyurl.com/y99wc8f2
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When talking about
suffering, it's always the self that suffers. So it's because of
self-awareness, there is suffering. Animals are not self-aware.
Post your proof that animals are not "self aware".
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Human sin caused animal sufferings before
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How do you know there wasn't?
the bible says so
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world
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was good. So there wasn't any suffering before humans sinned.
So carnivores just didn't eat anything
prior to human sin? Or perhaps all their prey
just stoned on Xanax to the point they didn't
suffer while being eaten alive?
No.
Suffering is entirely a philosophical concept based on the human
intelligence. Only the human intelligence is capable to perceive
and
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project suffering onto itself and the world. Without the human
intelligence, there is no projection of suffering, so there is no
one
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to
Post by aaa
suffer such suffering.
Amazing.
Animals in the wild don't suffer even
as they are being torn apart and eaten.
And you know this how, again?
That's not what I meant. I believe animals don't have the mental
capacity to understand suffering. They do have to endure whatever
happens, but they don't have to conceptualize it as suffering.
How do YOU know what animals
"conceptualize" about suffering?
Do they communicate with you in
some way?
It's based on my understanding of suffering.
"A personal understanding is no different from
a claim. It still needs to be proven first."
"aaa", March 28 2018
http://tinyurl.com/y99wc8f2
I gave my explanation below.
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When talking about
suffering, it's always the self that suffers. So it's because of
self-awareness, there is suffering. Animals are not self-aware.
Post your proof that animals are not "self aware".
Why? I think this is rather common knowledge.
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How do you know there wasn't?
the bible says so
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world
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was good. So there wasn't any suffering before humans sinned.
So carnivores just didn't eat anything
prior to human sin? Or perhaps all their prey
just stoned on Xanax to the point they didn't
suffer while being eaten alive?
No.
Suffering is entirely a philosophical concept based on the human
intelligence. Only the human intelligence is capable to perceive
and
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project suffering onto itself and the world. Without the human
intelligence, there is no projection of suffering, so there is no
one
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Post by Mitchell Holman
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to
Post by aaa
suffer such suffering.
Amazing.
Animals in the wild don't suffer even
as they are being torn apart and eaten.
And you know this how, again?
That's not what I meant. I believe animals don't have the mental
capacity to understand suffering. They do have to endure whatever
happens, but they don't have to conceptualize it as suffering.
How do YOU know what animals
"conceptualize" about suffering?
Do they communicate with you in
some way?
It's based on my understanding of suffering.
"A personal understanding is no different from
a claim. It still needs to be proven first."
"aaa", March 28 2018
http://tinyurl.com/y99wc8f2
I gave my explanation below.
Running away from your claims by
saying they are "self evident" or
"common knowledge" is not proof.
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When talking about
suffering, it's always the self that suffers. So it's because of
self-awareness, there is suffering. Animals are not self-aware.
Post your proof that animals are not "self aware".
Why? I think this is rather common knowledge.
Just post your proof that "animals are
not self-aware".
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world
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was good. So there wasn't any suffering before humans sinned.
So carnivores just didn't eat anything
prior to human sin? Or perhaps all their prey
just stoned on Xanax to the point they didn't
suffer while being eaten alive?
No.
Suffering is entirely a philosophical concept based on the human
intelligence. Only the human intelligence is capable to perceive
and
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project suffering onto itself and the world. Without the human
intelligence, there is no projection of suffering, so there is no
one
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Post by Mitchell Holman
to
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suffer such suffering.
Amazing.
Animals in the wild don't suffer even
as they are being torn apart and eaten.
And you know this how, again?
That's not what I meant. I believe animals don't have the mental
capacity to understand suffering. They do have to endure whatever
happens, but they don't have to conceptualize it as suffering.
How do YOU know what animals
"conceptualize" about suffering?
Do they communicate with you in
some way?
It's based on my understanding of suffering.
"A personal understanding is no different from
a claim. It still needs to be proven first."
"aaa", March 28 2018
http://tinyurl.com/y99wc8f2
I gave my explanation below.
Running away from your claims by
saying they are "self evident" or
"common knowledge" is not proof.
Yes, it is. I don't have to prove common knowledge. You can always prove
me wrong if you have the evidence to show otherwise.
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When talking about
suffering, it's always the self that suffers. So it's because of
self-awareness, there is suffering. Animals are not self-aware.
Post your proof that animals are not "self aware".
Why? I think this is rather common knowledge.
Just post your proof that "animals are
not self-aware".
I'm not a scientist. I don't have to prove that.
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world
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was good. So there wasn't any suffering before humans sinned.
So carnivores just didn't eat anything
prior to human sin? Or perhaps all their prey
just stoned on Xanax to the point they didn't
suffer while being eaten alive?
No.
Suffering is entirely a philosophical concept based on the human
intelligence. Only the human intelligence is capable to perceive
and
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project suffering onto itself and the world. Without the human
intelligence, there is no projection of suffering, so there is no
one
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to
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suffer such suffering.
Amazing.
Animals in the wild don't suffer even
as they are being torn apart and eaten.
And you know this how, again?
That's not what I meant. I believe animals don't have the mental
capacity to understand suffering. They do have to endure whatever
happens, but they don't have to conceptualize it as suffering.
How do YOU know what animals
"conceptualize" about suffering?
Do they communicate with you in
some way?
It's based on my understanding of suffering.
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"A personal understanding is no different from
a claim. It still needs to be proven first."
"aaa", March 28 2018
http://tinyurl.com/y99wc8f2
I gave my explanation below.
Running away from your claims by
saying they are "self evident" or
"common knowledge" is not proof.
Yes, it is. I don't have to prove common knowledge.
"Common knowledge" means ideas and facts that virtually everyone
agrees on. Things that rarely even come up in discussions, because
there's no need to discuss.

Contrast that with your bizarre home brew version of reality
which no one else agrees with. Not common knowledge, rather
uncommon delusion.


Selene
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me wrong if you have the evidence to show otherwise.
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When talking about
suffering, it's always the self that suffers. So it's because of
self-awareness, there is suffering. Animals are not self-aware.
Post your proof that animals are not "self aware".
Why? I think this is rather common knowledge.
Just post your proof that "animals are
not self-aware".
I'm not a scientist. I don't have to prove that.
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world
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was good. So there wasn't any suffering before humans sinned.
So carnivores just didn't eat anything
prior to human sin? Or perhaps all their prey
just stoned on Xanax to the point they didn't
suffer while being eaten alive?
No.
Suffering is entirely a philosophical concept based on the human
intelligence. Only the human intelligence is capable to perceive
and
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
project suffering onto itself and the world. Without the human
intelligence, there is no projection of suffering, so there is no
one
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
to
Post by aaa
suffer such suffering.
Amazing.
Animals in the wild don't suffer even
as they are being torn apart and eaten.
And you know this how, again?
That's not what I meant. I believe animals don't have the mental
capacity to understand suffering. They do have to endure whatever
happens, but they don't have to conceptualize it as suffering.
How do YOU know what animals
"conceptualize" about suffering?
Do they communicate with you in
some way?
It's based on my understanding of suffering.
+
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Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
"A personal understanding is no different from
a claim. It still needs to be proven first."
"aaa", March 28 2018
http://tinyurl.com/y99wc8f2
I gave my explanation below.
Running away from your claims by
saying they are "self evident" or
"common knowledge" is not proof.
Yes, it is. I don't have to prove common knowledge.
"Common knowledge" means ideas and facts that virtually everyone
agrees on. Things that rarely even come up in discussions, because
there's no need to discuss.
Contrast that with your bizarre home brew version of reality
which no one else agrees with. Not common knowledge, rather
uncommon delusion.
My understanding of reality doesn't contradict with common knowledge. In
fact, it better explains the common knowledge.
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Selene
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You can always prove
me wrong if you have the evidence to show otherwise.
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When talking about
suffering, it's always the self that suffers. So it's because of
self-awareness, there is suffering. Animals are not self-aware.
Post your proof that animals are not "self aware".
Why? I think this is rather common knowledge.
Just post your proof that "animals are
not self-aware".
I'm not a scientist. I don't have to prove that.
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When talking about
suffering, it's always the self that suffers. So it's because of
self-awareness, there is suffering. Animals are not self-aware.
Post your proof that animals are not "self aware".
Why? I think this is rather common knowledge.
Just post your proof that "animals are
not self-aware".
I'm not a scientist. I don't have to prove that.
"animals are not self aware" - your claim.

Post your proof.
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When talking about
suffering, it's always the self that suffers. So it's because of
self-awareness, there is suffering. Animals are not self-aware.
Post your proof that animals are not "self aware".
Why? I think this is rather common knowledge.
Just post your proof that "animals are
not self-aware".
I'm not a scientist. I don't have to prove that.
"animals are not self aware" - your claim.
Post your proof.
I'm sure any scientist can prove it for me. So I don't need to bother.
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2018-06-09 12:52:38 UTC
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When talking about
suffering, it's always the self that suffers. So it's because of
self-awareness, there is suffering. Animals are not self-aware.
Post your proof that animals are not "self aware".
Why? I think this is rather common knowledge.
Just post your proof that "animals are
not self-aware".
I'm not a scientist. I don't have to prove that.
"animals are not self aware" - your claim.
Post your proof.
I'm sure any scientist can prove it for me. So I don't need to bother.
"Scientists" didn't claim that, you did.

Post your proof.
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When talking about
suffering, it's always the self that suffers. So it's because of
self-awareness, there is suffering. Animals are not self-aware.
Post your proof that animals are not "self aware".
Why? I think this is rather common knowledge.
Just post your proof that "animals are
not self-aware".
I'm not a scientist. I don't have to prove that.
"animals are not self aware" - your claim.
Post your proof.
I'm sure any scientist can prove it for me. So I don't need to bother.
"Scientists" didn't claim that, you did.
Post your proof.
<https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.2307/3563167>
is one of many articles by scientists about animals suffering. There seems to be no doubt: animals do suffer.

I could say "Step on a house cat" but aaa is an evil turd
who would do that and claim that I made him do it.
But since he's probably done it before anyway, he only
has to remember what happened.
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When talking about
suffering, it's always the self that suffers. So it's because of
self-awareness, there is suffering. Animals are not self-aware.
Post your proof that animals are not "self aware".
Why? I think this is rather common knowledge.
Just post your proof that "animals are
not self-aware".
I'm not a scientist. I don't have to prove that.
"animals are not self aware" - your claim.
Post your proof.
I'm sure any scientist can prove it for me. So I don't need to bother.
"Scientists" didn't claim that, you did.
Post your proof.
<https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.2307/3563167>
is one of many articles by scientists about animals suffering. There seems to be no doubt: animals do suffer.
I could say "Step on a house cat" but aaa is an evil turd
who would do that and claim that I made him do it.
But since he's probably done it before anyway, he only
has to remember what happened.
Life in this lifeless physical world is always a suffering. However,
there can be entirely different sufferings either to humans or to
animals. To the animals, the suffering is physical and temporary. To
humans, the suffering is spiritual, and it stays with the soul.
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2018-06-09 23:21:54 UTC
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When talking about
suffering, it's always the self that suffers. So it's because
of self-awareness, there is suffering. Animals are not
self-aware.
Post your proof that animals are not "self aware".
Why? I think this is rather common knowledge.
Just post your proof that "animals are
not self-aware".
I'm not a scientist. I don't have to prove that.
"animals are not self aware" - your claim.
Post your proof.
I'm sure any scientist can prove it for me. So I don't need to bother.
"Scientists" didn't claim that, you did.
Post your proof.
<https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.2307/3563167>
is one of many articles by scientists about animals suffering. There
seems to be no doubt: animals do suffer.
I could say "Step on a house cat" but aaa is an evil turd
who would do that and claim that I made him do it.
But since he's probably done it before anyway, he only
has to remember what happened.
Life in this lifeless physical world is always a suffering. However,
there can be entirely different sufferings either to humans or to
animals. To the animals, the suffering is physical and temporary. To
humans, the suffering is spiritual, and it stays with the soul.
You have never been an animal, you have
NO IDEA what animal suffering is like. Much
less whether they are "self aware" or not.
aaa
2018-06-10 01:15:09 UTC
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When talking about
suffering, it's always the self that suffers. So it's because
of self-awareness, there is suffering. Animals are not
self-aware.
Post your proof that animals are not "self aware".
Why? I think this is rather common knowledge.
Just post your proof that "animals are
not self-aware".
I'm not a scientist. I don't have to prove that.
"animals are not self aware" - your claim.
Post your proof.
I'm sure any scientist can prove it for me. So I don't need to bother.
"Scientists" didn't claim that, you did.
Post your proof.
<https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.2307/3563167>
is one of many articles by scientists about animals suffering. There
seems to be no doubt: animals do suffer.
I could say "Step on a house cat" but aaa is an evil turd
who would do that and claim that I made him do it.
But since he's probably done it before anyway, he only
has to remember what happened.
Life in this lifeless physical world is always a suffering. However,
there can be entirely different sufferings either to humans or to
animals. To the animals, the suffering is physical and temporary. To
humans, the suffering is spiritual, and it stays with the soul.
You have never been an animal, you have
NO IDEA what animal suffering is like. Much
less whether they are "self aware" or not.
In that case, can you be any different? So what's your point?
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When talking about
suffering, it's always the self that suffers. So it's because
of self-awareness, there is suffering. Animals are not
self-aware.
Post your proof that animals are not "self aware".
Why? I think this is rather common knowledge.
Just post your proof that "animals are
not self-aware".
I'm not a scientist. I don't have to prove that.
"animals are not self aware" - your claim.
Post your proof.
I'm sure any scientist can prove it for me. So I don't need to bother.
"Scientists" didn't claim that, you did.
Post your proof.
<https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.2307/3563167>
is one of many articles by scientists about animals suffering.
There
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seems to be no doubt: animals do suffer.
I could say "Step on a house cat" but aaa is an evil turd
who would do that and claim that I made him do it.
But since he's probably done it before anyway, he only
has to remember what happened.
Life in this lifeless physical world is always a suffering. However,
there can be entirely different sufferings either to humans or to
animals. To the animals, the suffering is physical and temporary. To
humans, the suffering is spiritual, and it stays with the soul.
You have never been an animal, you have
NO IDEA what animal suffering is like. Much
less whether they are "self aware" or not.
In that case, can you be any different? So what's your point?
The point is you are a liar.

From "god invented the atomic bomb" to
"bacteria can pray" to "animals don't suffer"
to "dragons exist spiritually" the pattern is
the same. You just make up crap, post it, and
then run away when asked for proof.

Why do you do that?

aaa
2018-06-09 18:20:04 UTC
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When talking about
suffering, it's always the self that suffers. So it's because of
self-awareness, there is suffering. Animals are not self-aware.
Post your proof that animals are not "self aware".
Why? I think this is rather common knowledge.
Just post your proof that "animals are
not self-aware".
I'm not a scientist. I don't have to prove that.
"animals are not self aware" - your claim.
Post your proof.
I'm sure any scientist can prove it for me. So I don't need to bother.
"Scientists" didn't claim that, you did.
Post your proof.
They did claim that. This isn't something I discovered myself.
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2018-06-09 23:01:28 UTC
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When talking about suffering, it's always the self that suffers.
So it's because of self-awareness, there is suffering. Animals
are not self-aware.
Post your proof that animals are not "self aware".
Why? I think this is rather common knowledge.
Just post your proof that "animals are
not self-aware".
I'm not a scientist. I don't have to prove that.
"animals are not self aware" - your claim.
Post your proof.
I'm sure any scientist can prove it for me. So I don't need to bother.
"Scientists" didn't claim that, you did.
Post your proof.
They did claim that.
So you say. Now prove it.
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This isn't something I discovered myself.
Correct. You made it up yourself.
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2018-06-10 01:17:48 UTC
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When talking about suffering, it's always the self that suffers.
So it's because of self-awareness, there is suffering. Animals
are not self-aware.
Post your proof that animals are not "self aware".
Why? I think this is rather common knowledge.
Just post your proof that "animals are
not self-aware".
I'm not a scientist. I don't have to prove that.
"animals are not self aware" - your claim.
Post your proof.
I'm sure any scientist can prove it for me. So I don't need to bother.
"Scientists" didn't claim that, you did.
Post your proof.
They did claim that.
So you say. Now prove it.
I don't have to.
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This isn't something I discovered myself.
Correct. You made it up yourself.
That's not possible because it is actually true. It can't be made up.
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Human sin caused animal sufferings before
humans even existed?
How do you know there was animal suffering before humans
existed?
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How do you know there wasn't?
the bible says so
That's right. The Bible said that God created the world, and the
world
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was good. So there wasn't any suffering before humans sinned.
So carnivores just didn't eat anything
prior to human sin? Or perhaps all their prey
just stoned on Xanax to the point they didn't
suffer while being eaten alive?
No.
Suffering is entirely a philosophical concept based on the human
intelligence. Only the human intelligence is capable to perceive and
project suffering onto itself and the world. Without the human
intelligence, there is no projection of suffering, so there is no one
to
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suffer such suffering.
Amazing.
Animals in the wild don't suffer even
as they are being torn apart and eaten.
And you know this how, again?
That's not what I meant. I believe animals don't have the mental
capacity to understand suffering. They do have to endure whatever
happens, but they don't have to conceptualize it as suffering.
How do YOU know what animals
"conceptualize" about suffering?
Do they communicate with you in
some way?
In your kit you will find a pitch bound torch. Go to the corn field and find a lamb. Ignite the torch with the lighter. Watch the lamb's eyes for continuance regarding your actions. Touch the torch to the lamb and burn it and watch it react.
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside
their homes. Hundreds were injured and many are
missing. The country's main airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and
engulfed villages. Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since
1902, when an eruption of the Santa Maria volcano
killed thousands of people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National
Disaster Management Agency (Conred), said the town
of El Rodeo had been "buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only
the
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results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from suffering.
God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the justice that ends
all evil.
If human sufferings are from human sin
are animal sufferings from animal sin?
No, all sufferings in this world come from the human sin.
Human sin caused animal sufferings before
humans even existed?
How do you know there was animal suffering before humans existed?
How do you know there wasn't?
the bible says so
That's right. The Bible said that God created the world, and the world
was good. So there wasn't any suffering before humans sinned.
So carnivores just didn't eat anything
prior to human sin? Or perhaps all their prey
just stoned on Xanax to the point they didn't
suffer while being eaten alive?
No.
Suffering is entirely a philosophical concept based on the human
intelligence. Only the human intelligence is capable to perceive and
project suffering onto itself and the world. Without the human
intelligence, there is no projection of suffering, so there is no one to
suffer such suffering. Life in nature is simply a challenge instead of a
suffering.
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The bible contains rules prohibiting the causing of
suffering to animals.

It also says that meat animals must be killed in various
disturbing ways, and various sins and involuntary bodily
functions require sacrificing of animals to God on the
priestly barbecue (yum... so, anyway), but religion
doesn't have to be consistent.

As far as I remember, you do not ever read the bible but
you say that you like it.
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside
their homes. Hundreds were injured and many are
missing. The country's main airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and
engulfed villages. Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since
1902, when an eruption of the Santa Maria volcano
killed thousands of people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National
Disaster Management Agency (Conred), said the town
of El Rodeo had been "buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only
the
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results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from suffering.
God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the justice that ends
all evil.
If human sufferings are from human sin
are animal sufferings from animal sin?
No, all sufferings in this world come from the human sin.
Human sin caused animal sufferings before
humans even existed?
How do you know there was animal suffering before humans existed?
How do you know there wasn't?
the bible says so
That's right. The Bible said that God created the world, and the world
was good. So there wasn't any suffering before humans sinned.
So carnivores just didn't eat anything
prior to human sin? Or perhaps all their prey
just stoned on Xanax to the point they didn't
suffer while being eaten alive?
No.
Suffering is entirely a philosophical concept based on the human
intelligence. Only the human intelligence is capable to perceive and
project suffering onto itself and the world. Without the human
intelligence, there is no projection of suffering, so there is no one to
suffer such suffering. Life in nature is simply a challenge instead of a
suffering.
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happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
The bible contains rules prohibiting the causing of
suffering to animals.
That's great.
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It also says that meat animals must be killed in various
disturbing ways, and various sins and involuntary bodily
functions require sacrificing of animals to God on the
priestly barbecue (yum... so, anyway), but religion
doesn't have to be consistent.
I don't think that's related to animal suffering.
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As far as I remember, you do not ever read the bible but
you say that you like it.
No, I will never disagree with it. The Bible will always be right, and I
can always be wrong.
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside
their homes. Hundreds were injured and many are
missing. The country's main airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and
engulfed villages. Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since
1902, when an eruption of the Santa Maria volcano
killed thousands of people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National
Disaster Management Agency (Conred), said the town
of El Rodeo had been "buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only
the
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results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from suffering.
God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the justice that ends
all evil.
If human sufferings are from human sin
are animal sufferings from animal sin?
No, all sufferings in this world come from the human sin.
Human sin caused animal sufferings before
humans even existed?
How do you know there was animal suffering before humans existed?
How do you know there wasn't?
the bible says so
That's right. The Bible said that God created the world, and the world
was good. So there wasn't any suffering before humans sinned.
So carnivores just didn't eat anything
prior to human sin? Or perhaps all their prey
just stoned on Xanax to the point they didn't
suffer while being eaten alive?
The carnivores ate dinosaurs. The dead dinosaurs who
lived righteous lives were promoted to spiritual
dinosaurs. The sinful ones reincarnated as dinosaurs
again, to be eaten by carnivores forever.

Spiritual dinosaurs are still with us today, but only
insane people can see them.
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There were seven deaths you using archaic notion of pluralizing fractions aka not one.
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside
their homes. Hundreds were injured and many are
missing. The country's main airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and
engulfed villages. Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since
1902, when an eruption of the Santa Maria volcano
killed thousands of people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National
Disaster Management Agency (Conred), said the town
of El Rodeo had been "buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only
the
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results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from suffering.
God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the justice that ends
all evil.
If human sufferings are from human sin
are animal sufferings from animal sin?
No, all sufferings in this world come from the human sin.
Human sin caused animal sufferings before
humans even existed?
How do you know there was animal suffering before humans existed?
How do you know there wasn't?
the bible says so
That's right. The Bible said that God created the world, and the world
was good. So there wasn't any suffering before humans sinned.
So carnivores just didn't eat anything
prior to human sin? Or perhaps all their prey
just stoned on Xanax to the point they didn't
suffer while being eaten alive?
The carnivores ate dinosaurs. The dead dinosaurs who
lived righteous lives were promoted to spiritual
dinosaurs. The sinful ones reincarnated as dinosaurs
again, to be eaten by carnivores forever.
Spiritual dinosaurs are still with us today, but only
insane people can see them.
The spiritual world is real. Too bad it's only known as legend.
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside
their homes. Hundreds were injured and many are
missing. The country's main airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and
engulfed villages. Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since
1902, when an eruption of the Santa Maria volcano
killed thousands of people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National
Disaster Management Agency (Conred), said the town
of El Rodeo had been "buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only
the
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results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from suffering.
God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the justice that ends
all evil.
If human sufferings are from human sin
are animal sufferings from animal sin?
No, all sufferings in this world come from the human sin.
Human sin caused animal sufferings before
humans even existed?
How do you know there was animal suffering before humans
existed?
How do you know there wasn't?
the bible says so
That's right. The Bible said that God created the world, and the
world was good. So there wasn't any suffering before humans sinned.
So carnivores just didn't eat anything
prior to human sin? Or perhaps all their prey
just stoned on Xanax to the point they didn't
suffer while being eaten alive?
The carnivores ate dinosaurs. The dead dinosaurs who
lived righteous lives were promoted to spiritual
dinosaurs. The sinful ones reincarnated as dinosaurs
again, to be eaten by carnivores forever.
Spiritual dinosaurs are still with us today, but only
insane people can see them.
The spiritual world is real. Too bad it's only known as legend.
"That's just your opinion. You need to support
your opinion with evidence."
"aaa", March 26 2018
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside
their homes. Hundreds were injured and many are
missing. The country's main airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and
engulfed villages. Ash reached up to more than
6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since
1902, when an eruption of the Santa Maria volcano
killed thousands of people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National
Disaster Management Agency (Conred), said the town
of El Rodeo had been "buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only
the
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results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from suffering.
God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the justice that ends
all evil.
If human sufferings are from human sin
are animal sufferings from animal sin?
No, all sufferings in this world come from the human sin.
Human sin caused animal sufferings before
humans even existed?
How do you know there was animal suffering before humans existed?
How do you know there wasn't?
the bible says so
That's right. The Bible said that God created the world, and the
world was good. So there wasn't any suffering before humans sinned.
So carnivores just didn't eat anything
prior to human sin? Or perhaps all their prey
just stoned on Xanax to the point they didn't
suffer while being eaten alive?
The carnivores ate dinosaurs. The dead dinosaurs who
lived righteous lives were promoted to spiritual
dinosaurs. The sinful ones reincarnated as dinosaurs
again, to be eaten by carnivores forever.
Spiritual dinosaurs are still with us today, but only
insane people can see them.
The spiritual world is real. Too bad it's only known as legend.
"That's just your opinion. You need to support
your opinion with evidence."
"aaa", March 26 2018
The spiritual is always self-evident.
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside
their homes. Hundreds were injured and many are
missing. The country's main airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and
engulfed villages. Ash reached up to more than
6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since
1902, when an eruption of the Santa Maria volcano
killed thousands of people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National
Disaster Management Agency (Conred), said the town
of El Rodeo had been "buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only
the
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results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from
suffering.
God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the justice
that ends
all evil.
If human sufferings are from human sin
are animal sufferings from animal sin?
No, all sufferings in this world come from the human sin.
Human sin caused animal sufferings before
humans even existed?
How do you know there was animal suffering before humans existed?
How do you know there wasn't?
the bible says so
That's right. The Bible said that God created the world, and the
world was good. So there wasn't any suffering before humans sinned.
So carnivores just didn't eat anything
prior to human sin? Or perhaps all their prey
just stoned on Xanax to the point they didn't
suffer while being eaten alive?
The carnivores ate dinosaurs. The dead dinosaurs who
lived righteous lives were promoted to spiritual
dinosaurs. The sinful ones reincarnated as dinosaurs
again, to be eaten by carnivores forever.
Spiritual dinosaurs are still with us today, but only
insane people can see them.
The spiritual world is real. Too bad it's only known as legend.
"That's just your opinion. You need to support
your opinion with evidence."
"aaa", March 26 2018
The spiritual is always self-evident.
Nope.

Post your proof.
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside
their homes. Hundreds were injured and many are
missing. The country's main airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and
engulfed villages. Ash reached up to more than
6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since
1902, when an eruption of the Santa Maria
volcano
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killed thousands of people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National
Disaster Management Agency (Conred), said the
town
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of El Rodeo had been "buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only
the
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Post by aaa
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results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from
suffering.
God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the justice
that ends
all evil.
If human sufferings are from human sin
are animal sufferings from animal sin?
No, all sufferings in this world come from the human sin.
Human sin caused animal sufferings before
humans even existed?
How do you know there was animal suffering before humans existed?
How do you know there wasn't?
the bible says so
That's right. The Bible said that God created the world, and the
world was good. So there wasn't any suffering before humans
sinned.
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Mitchell Holman
So carnivores just didn't eat anything
prior to human sin? Or perhaps all their prey
just stoned on Xanax to the point they didn't
suffer while being eaten alive?
The carnivores ate dinosaurs. The dead dinosaurs who
lived righteous lives were promoted to spiritual
dinosaurs. The sinful ones reincarnated as dinosaurs
again, to be eaten by carnivores forever.
Spiritual dinosaurs are still with us today, but only
insane people can see them.
The spiritual world is real. Too bad it's only known as legend.
"That's just your opinion. You need to support
your opinion with evidence."
"aaa", March 26 2018
The spiritual is always self-evident.
Nope.
Your blindness to the spiritual isn't my problem. It's your own. You
need to work on it to improve your spiritual sight or insight by
following the teaching of Jesus.
Post by Peter Pan
Post your proof.
Why does it matter since you are blind to the proof anyway?
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people
inside their homes. Hundreds were injured
and many are missing. The country's main
airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and
engulfed villages. Ash reached up to more
than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event
since 1902, when an eruption of the Santa
Maria
volcano
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killed thousands of people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's
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(Conred), said the
town
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of El Rodeo had been "buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only
the
Post by aaa
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Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
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results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away
from suffering.
God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the
justice that ends
all evil.
If human sufferings are from human sin
are animal sufferings from animal sin?
No, all sufferings in this world come from the human sin.
Human sin caused animal sufferings before
humans even existed?
How do you know there was animal suffering before humans existed?
How do you know there wasn't?
the bible says so
That's right. The Bible said that God created the world, and
the world was good. So there wasn't any suffering before humans
sinned.
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Mitchell Holman
So carnivores just didn't eat anything
prior to human sin? Or perhaps all their prey
just stoned on Xanax to the point they didn't
suffer while being eaten alive?
The carnivores ate dinosaurs. The dead dinosaurs who
lived righteous lives were promoted to spiritual
dinosaurs. The sinful ones reincarnated as dinosaurs
again, to be eaten by carnivores forever.
Spiritual dinosaurs are still with us today, but only
insane people can see them.
The spiritual world is real. Too bad it's only known as legend.
"That's just your opinion. You need to support
your opinion with evidence."
"aaa", March 26 2018
The spiritual is always self-evident.
Nope.
Your blindness to the spiritual isn't my problem. It's your own. You
need to work on it to improve your spiritual sight or insight by
following the teaching of Jesus.
Show us where Jesus even mentioned
"the spiritual world"
Post by aaa
Post by Peter Pan
Post your proof.
Why does it matter since you are blind to the proof anyway?
What is "the spiritual world"?

Prove that it exists, where it can
be found, how big it is, and when was it
first discovered.
Robert Carnegie
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people
inside their homes. Hundreds were injured
and many are missing. The country's main
airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and
engulfed villages. Ash reached up to more
than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event
since 1902, when an eruption of the Santa
Maria
volcano
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killed thousands of people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's
National Disaster Management Agency
(Conred), said the
town
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of El Rodeo had been "buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are
only
the
Post by aaa
Post by %
Post by hypatiab7(hypatiab7)
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
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results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away
from suffering.
God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the
justice that ends
all evil.
If human sufferings are from human sin
are animal sufferings from animal sin?
No, all sufferings in this world come from the human sin.
Human sin caused animal sufferings before
humans even existed?
How do you know there was animal suffering before humans existed?
How do you know there wasn't?
the bible says so
That's right. The Bible said that God created the world, and
the world was good. So there wasn't any suffering before humans
sinned.
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Mitchell Holman
So carnivores just didn't eat anything
prior to human sin? Or perhaps all their prey
just stoned on Xanax to the point they didn't
suffer while being eaten alive?
The carnivores ate dinosaurs. The dead dinosaurs who
lived righteous lives were promoted to spiritual
dinosaurs. The sinful ones reincarnated as dinosaurs
again, to be eaten by carnivores forever.
Spiritual dinosaurs are still with us today, but only
insane people can see them.
The spiritual world is real. Too bad it's only known as legend.
"That's just your opinion. You need to support
your opinion with evidence."
"aaa", March 26 2018
The spiritual is always self-evident.
Nope.
Your blindness to the spiritual isn't my problem. It's your own. You
need to work on it to improve your spiritual sight or insight by
following the teaching of Jesus.
Show us where Jesus even mentioned
"the spiritual world"
Post by aaa
Post by Peter Pan
Post your proof.
Why does it matter since you are blind to the proof anyway?
What is "the spiritual world"?
Prove that it exists, where it can
be found, how big it is, and when was it
first discovered.
I think we could stop now.
Kevrob
2018-06-07 21:27:53 UTC
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What is "the spiritual world"?
Prove that it exists, where it can
be found, how big it is, and when was it
first discovered.
I think we could stop now.
We can "prove" it, Robert.

You hold Mitchell, and I'll bean him on the crown with
this here giant mallet:

||===============|| *
|| ||
|| ||======================O
|| ||
||===============||

That should bring on a state similar to NiuNian's! :)

Kevin R

* This "tool of enlightenment" was known, in days
of yore, as a "LART."
%
2018-06-07 21:32:19 UTC
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What is "the spiritual world"?
Prove that it exists, where it can
be found, how big it is, and when was it
first discovered.
I think we could stop now.
We can "prove" it, Robert.
You hold Mitchell, and I'll bean him on the crown with
||===============|| *
|| ||
|| ||======================O
|| ||
||===============||
That should bring on a state similar to NiuNian's! :)
Kevin R
* This "tool of enlightenment" was known, in days
of yore, as a "LART."
someone has way too much free time
Kevrob
2018-06-07 21:37:51 UTC
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What is "the spiritual world"?
Prove that it exists, where it can
be found, how big it is, and when was it
first discovered.
I think we could stop now.
We can "prove" it, Robert.
You hold Mitchell, and I'll bean him on the crown with
||===============|| *
|| ||
|| ||======================O
|| ||
||===============||
That should bring on a state similar to NiuNian's! :)
Kevin R
* This "tool of enlightenment" was known, in days
of yore, as a "LART."
someone has way too much free time
Is this version better?

|\
| \ /|
| \____ / |
/|__/AMMA\/ |
/AMMMMMMMMMMM\_|
___/AMMMMMMMMMMMMMMA
\ |MVKMMM/ .\MMMMM\
\__/MMMMMM\ /MMMMMM---
|MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM| /
|MMMM/. \MM.--MMMMMM\/
/\MMM\ /MM\ |MMMMMM ___
/ |MMMMMMMMM\ |MMMMMM--/ \-.
/___/MMMMMMMMMM\|M.--M/___/_| \
\VMM/\MMMMMMM\ | /\ \/
\V/ \MMMMMMM\ | /_ /
| /MMMV' \| |/ _/
| / _/ /
|/ /| \'
/_ /
/ /

Courtesy:

https://www.asciiart.eu/weapons/other

Kevin R
%
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What is "the spiritual world"?
Prove that it exists, where it can
be found, how big it is, and when was it
first discovered.
I think we could stop now.
We can "prove" it, Robert.
You hold Mitchell, and I'll bean him on the crown with
||===============|| *
|| ||
|| ||======================O
|| ||
||===============||
That should bring on a state similar to NiuNian's! :)
Kevin R
* This "tool of enlightenment" was known, in days
of yore, as a "LART."
someone has way too much free time
Is this version better?
|\
| \ /|
| \____ / |
/|__/AMMA\/ |
/AMMMMMMMMMMM\_|
___/AMMMMMMMMMMMMMMA
\ |MVKMMM/ .\MMMMM\
\__/MMMMMM\ /MMMMMM---
|MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM| /
|MMMM/. \MM.--MMMMMM\/
/\MMM\ /MM\ |MMMMMM ___
/ |MMMMMMMMM\ |MMMMMM--/ \-.
/___/MMMMMMMMMM\|M.--M/___/_| \
\VMM/\MMMMMMM\ | /\ \/
\V/ \MMMMMMM\ | /_ /
| /MMMV' \| |/ _/
| / _/ /
|/ /| \'
/_ /
/ /
https://www.asciiart.eu/weapons/other
Kevin R
so you can cut and paste , how nice
s***@gmail.com
2018-06-08 00:30:08 UTC
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What is "the spiritual world"?
Prove that it exists, where it can
be found, how big it is, and when was it
first discovered.
I think we could stop now.
We can "prove" it, Robert.
+
Post by Kevrob
You hold Mitchell, and I'll bean him on the crown with
||===============|| *
|| ||
|| ||======================O
|| ||
||===============||
Uh oh. That looks a lot like a piston in a cylinder.

Which would set "aaa" all a-babble if he knew the first thing
about thermodynamics, and particularly its history.

But since he's absolutely positively guaranteed not to, -- nor even understand this post --
then we're safe.

Sort of.

Selene
Post by Kevrob
That should bring on a state similar to NiuNian's! :)
Kevin R
* This "tool of enlightenment" was known, in days
of yore, as a "LART."
Robert Carnegie
2018-06-08 00:37:55 UTC
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What is "the spiritual world"?
Prove that it exists, where it can
be found, how big it is, and when was it
first discovered.
I think we could stop now.
We can "prove" it, Robert.
+
Post by Kevrob
You hold Mitchell, and I'll bean him on the crown with
||===============|| *
|| ||
|| ||======================O
|| ||
||===============||
Uh oh. That looks a lot like a piston in a cylinder.
Which would set "aaa" all a-babble if he knew the first thing
about thermodynamics, and particularly its history.
But since he's absolutely positively guaranteed not to, -- nor even understand this post --
then we're safe.
Sort of.
Selene
Try this view:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/alt.atheism/0nPwLf5ry-g/MrrdaP9dBAAJ
s***@gmail.com
2018-06-08 02:03:20 UTC
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What is "the spiritual world"?
Prove that it exists, where it can
be found, how big it is, and when was it
first discovered.
I think we could stop now.
We can "prove" it, Robert.
+
+
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Post by s***@gmail.com
Post by Kevrob
You hold Mitchell, and I'll bean him on the crown with
||===============|| *
|| ||
|| ||======================O
|| ||
||===============||
Uh oh. That looks a lot like a piston in a cylinder.
Which would set "aaa" all a-babble if he knew the first thing
about thermodynamics, and particularly its history.
But since he's absolutely positively guaranteed not to, -- nor even understand this post --
then we're safe.
Sort of.
Selene
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/alt.atheism/0nPwLf5ry-g/MrrdaP9dBAAJ
Ah. I suspect he may have used tabs in there somewhere. I've
munged a few in my time; now I only use spaces.

Although it would well be a matter of newsreaders instead.


(but I kind of liked the pistony-looking one better)

Selene
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(but I kind of liked the pistony-looking one better)
Perhaps, for a nail-gun type of effect?

Kevin R
Kevrob
2018-06-08 02:47:09 UTC
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https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/alt.atheism/0nPwLf5ry-g/MrrdaP9dBAAJ
Thanks Robert. "A wise workman knows his tools.....?" I guess? :)

Kevin R
Alex W.
2018-06-08 08:00:44 UTC
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||===============|| *
|| ||
|| ||======================O
|| ||
||===============||
Uh oh. That looks a lot like a piston in a cylinder.
Which would set "aaa" all a-babble if he knew the first thing
about thermodynamics, and particularly its history.
But since he's absolutely positively guaranteed not to, -- nor even understand this post --
then we're safe.
Sort of.
Since he has shown absolutely no hesitation whatsoever to comment on
anything and everything he has no understanding of, your sense of safety
is quite illusory....

Sorry.
aaa
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people
inside their homes. Hundreds were injured
and many are missing. The country's main
airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and
engulfed villages. Ash reached up to more
than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event
since 1902, when an eruption of the Santa
Maria
volcano
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killed thousands of people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's
National Disaster Management Agency
(Conred), said the
town
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of El Rodeo had been "buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only
the
Post by aaa
Post by %
Post by hypatiab7(hypatiab7)
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away
from suffering.
God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the
justice that ends
all evil.
If human sufferings are from human sin
are animal sufferings from animal sin?
No, all sufferings in this world come from the human sin.
Human sin caused animal sufferings before
humans even existed?
How do you know there was animal suffering before humans existed?
How do you know there wasn't?
the bible says so
That's right. The Bible said that God created the world, and
the world was good. So there wasn't any suffering before humans
sinned.
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Mitchell Holman
So carnivores just didn't eat anything
prior to human sin? Or perhaps all their prey
just stoned on Xanax to the point they didn't
suffer while being eaten alive?
The carnivores ate dinosaurs. The dead dinosaurs who
lived righteous lives were promoted to spiritual
dinosaurs. The sinful ones reincarnated as dinosaurs
again, to be eaten by carnivores forever.
Spiritual dinosaurs are still with us today, but only
insane people can see them.
The spiritual world is real. Too bad it's only known as legend.
"That's just your opinion. You need to support
your opinion with evidence."
"aaa", March 26 2018
The spiritual is always self-evident.
Nope.
Your blindness to the spiritual isn't my problem. It's your own. You
need to work on it to improve your spiritual sight or insight by
following the teaching of Jesus.
Show us where Jesus even mentioned
"the spiritual world"
The spiritual world is the Kingdom of God, is it not?
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Peter Pan
Post your proof.
Why does it matter since you are blind to the proof anyway?
What is "the spiritual world"?
Prove that it exists, where it can
be found, how big it is, and when was it
first discovered.
According to Jesus, the Kingdom of God is within you. That is the
spiritual world.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
Alex W.
2018-06-08 15:47:18 UTC
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According to Jesus, the Kingdom of God is within you. That is the
spiritual world.
I am a republican.
Kevrob
2018-06-08 16:21:59 UTC
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According to Jesus, the Kingdom of God is within you. That is the
spiritual world.
I am a republican.
Same here, of the "small r" type. In the USA, it's important to
distinguish a republican from a Republican. :)

Kevin R
%
2018-06-08 16:33:32 UTC
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According to Jesus, the Kingdom of God is within you. That is the
spiritual world.
I am a republican.
Same here, of the "small r" type. In the USA, it's important to
distinguish a republican from a Republican. :)
Kevin R
the rest of the world thinks you're all just americans
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According to Jesus, the Kingdom of God is within you. That is the
spiritual world.
I am a republican.
Same here, of the "small r" type. In the USA, it's important to
distinguish a republican from a Republican. :)
Strangely enough, that's why I typed it with a small "r"...
:-)

Although I must say there is something to be said for an institution
that exerts influence but not actual power, and which is trained from
birth to do so. The current Queen, for instance, has been there, done
that, seen it all, and is in a position to be a trusted and expert
advisor to the government. That is in itself valuable.
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According to Jesus, the Kingdom of God is within you. That is the
spiritual world.
I am a republican.
What does that mean?
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people
inside their homes. Hundreds were injured
and many are missing. The country's main
airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and
engulfed villages. Ash reached up to more
than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event
since 1902, when an eruption of the Santa
Maria
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killed thousands of people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's
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(Conred), said the
town
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of El Rodeo had been "buried".
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Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings
are
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only
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results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away
from suffering.
God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the
justice that ends
all evil.
If human sufferings are from human sin
are animal sufferings from animal sin?
No, all sufferings in this world come from the human sin.
Human sin caused animal sufferings before
humans even existed?
How do you know there was animal suffering before humans existed?
How do you know there wasn't?
the bible says so
That's right. The Bible said that God created the world, and
the world was good. So there wasn't any suffering before humans
sinned.
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So carnivores just didn't eat anything
prior to human sin? Or perhaps all their prey
just stoned on Xanax to the point they didn't
suffer while being eaten alive?
The carnivores ate dinosaurs. The dead dinosaurs who
lived righteous lives were promoted to spiritual
dinosaurs. The sinful ones reincarnated as dinosaurs
again, to be eaten by carnivores forever.
Spiritual dinosaurs are still with us today, but only
insane people can see them.
The spiritual world is real. Too bad it's only known as legend.
"That's just your opinion. You need to support
your opinion with evidence."
"aaa", March 26 2018
The spiritual is always self-evident.
Nope.
Your blindness to the spiritual isn't my problem. It's your own. You
need to work on it to improve your spiritual sight or insight by
following the teaching of Jesus.
Show us where Jesus even mentioned
"the spiritual world"
The spiritual world is the Kingdom of God, is it not?
"That's just your opinion. You need to support
your opinion with evidence."
"aaa", March 26 2018
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Molten rock rushed down the mountainside
and
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engulfed villages. Ash reached up to more
than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event
since 1902, when an eruption of the Santa
Maria
volcano
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killed thousands of people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's
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(Conred), said the
town
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of El Rodeo had been "buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-
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Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings
are
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only
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results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away
from suffering.
God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the
justice that ends
all evil.
If human sufferings are from human sin
are animal sufferings from animal sin?
No, all sufferings in this world come from the human sin.
Human sin caused animal sufferings before
humans even existed?
How do you know there was animal suffering before humans existed?
How do you know there wasn't?
the bible says so
That's right. The Bible said that God created the world, and
the world was good. So there wasn't any suffering before
humans
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sinned.
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So carnivores just didn't eat anything
prior to human sin? Or perhaps all their prey
just stoned on Xanax to the point they didn't
suffer while being eaten alive?
The carnivores ate dinosaurs. The dead dinosaurs who
lived righteous lives were promoted to spiritual
dinosaurs. The sinful ones reincarnated as dinosaurs
again, to be eaten by carnivores forever.
Spiritual dinosaurs are still with us today, but only
insane people can see them.
The spiritual world is real. Too bad it's only known as legend.
"That's just your opinion. You need to support
your opinion with evidence."
"aaa", March 26 2018
The spiritual is always self-evident.
Nope.
Your blindness to the spiritual isn't my problem. It's your own. You
need to work on it to improve your spiritual sight or insight by
following the teaching of Jesus.
Show us where Jesus even mentioned
"the spiritual world"
The spiritual world is the Kingdom of God, is it not?
"That's just your opinion. You need to support
your opinion with evidence."
"aaa", March 26 2018
I did, and you snipped it
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside
their homes. Hundreds were injured and many are
missing. The country's main airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and
engulfed villages. Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since
1902, when an eruption of the Santa Maria volcano
killed thousands of people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National
Disaster Management Agency (Conred), said the town
of El Rodeo had been "buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only the
results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from suffering.
God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the justice that ends
all evil.
If human sufferings are from human sin
are animal sufferings from animal sin?
No, all sufferings in this world come from the human sin.
Rubbish. If you're religious, God invented suffering.
For those of us who aren't religious, suffering just
happens.

When one animal kills and eats another, the animal being
killed generally suffers. And animals have been eating
other animals for a long time before humans came to
join in, in both roles.
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside
their homes. Hundreds were injured and many are
missing. The country's main airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and
engulfed villages. Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since
1902, when an eruption of the Santa Maria volcano
killed thousands of people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National
Disaster Management Agency (Conred), said the town
of El Rodeo had been "buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only the
results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from suffering.
God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the justice that ends
all evil.
If human sufferings are from human sin
are animal sufferings from animal sin?
No, all sufferings in this world come from the human sin.
Rubbish. If you're religious, God invented suffering.
For those of us who aren't religious, suffering just
happens.
That's just your misunderstanding. To humans, life in this physical
world is always suffering. It doesn't matter what you and I believe. God
simply explained to us why and how suffering happened. It's all because
of the human sin.
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When one animal kills and eats another, the animal being
killed generally suffers. And animals have been eating
other animals for a long time before humans came to
join in, in both roles.
There is no doubt that physical death is one of the sufferings in this
world, but it's only suffering to the human level of intelligence.
Animals by having no human level of intelligence don't have to take
physical death as suffering.
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Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside
their homes. Hundreds were injured and many are
missing. The country's main airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and
engulfed villages. Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since
1902, when an eruption of the Santa Maria volcano
killed thousands of people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National
Disaster Management Agency (Conred), said the town
of El Rodeo had been "buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only the
results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from
suffering.
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God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the justice that ends
all evil.
If human sufferings are from human sin
are animal sufferings from animal sin?
No, all sufferings in this world come from the human sin.
Rubbish. If you're religious, God invented suffering.
For those of us who aren't religious, suffering just
happens.
That's just your misunderstanding. To humans, life in this physical
world is always suffering. It doesn't matter what you and I believe. God
simply explained to us why and how suffering happened. It's all because
of the human sin.
Post by Robert Carnegie
When one animal kills and eats another, the animal being
killed generally suffers. And animals have been eating
other animals for a long time before humans came to
join in, in both roles.
There is no doubt that physical death is one of the sufferings in this
world, but it's only suffering to the human level of intelligence.
Animals by having no human level of intelligence don't have to take
physical death as suffering.
Animals being pulled apart and
devoured by other animals don't suffer?
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside
their homes. Hundreds were injured and many are
missing. The country's main airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and
engulfed villages. Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since
1902, when an eruption of the Santa Maria volcano
killed thousands of people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National
Disaster Management Agency (Conred), said the town
of El Rodeo had been "buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only the
results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from
suffering.
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God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the justice that
ends
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all evil.
If human sufferings are from human sin
are animal sufferings from animal sin?
No, all sufferings in this world come from the human sin.
Rubbish. If you're religious, God invented suffering.
For those of us who aren't religious, suffering just
happens.
That's just your misunderstanding. To humans, life in this physical
world is always suffering. It doesn't matter what you and I believe.
God
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simply explained to us why and how suffering happened. It's all because
of the human sin.
Post by Robert Carnegie
When one animal kills and eats another, the animal being
killed generally suffers. And animals have been eating
other animals for a long time before humans came to
join in, in both roles.
There is no doubt that physical death is one of the sufferings in this
world, but it's only suffering to the human level of intelligence.
Animals by having no human level of intelligence don't have to take
physical death as suffering.
Animals being pulled apart and
devoured by other animals don't suffer?
Death is always suffering to life, but only the human intelligence is
capable to perceive such suffering to suffer in it.
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside
their homes. Hundreds were injured and many are
missing. The country's main airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and
engulfed villages. Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since
1902, when an eruption of the Santa Maria volcano
killed thousands of people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National
Disaster Management Agency (Conred), said the town
of El Rodeo had been "buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only the
results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from suffering.
God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the justice that ends
all evil.
You're disgusting.
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside
their homes. Hundreds were injured and many are
missing. The country's main airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and
engulfed villages. Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since
1902, when an eruption of the Santa Maria volcano
killed thousands of people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National
Disaster Management Agency (Conred), said the town
of El Rodeo had been "buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only the
results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from suffering.
God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the justice that ends
all evil.
You're disgusting.
of course he is
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside
their homes. Hundreds were injured and many are
missing. The country's main airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and
engulfed villages. Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since
1902, when an eruption of the Santa Maria volcano
killed thousands of people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National
Disaster Management Agency (Conred), said the town
of El Rodeo had been "buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only the
results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from suffering.
God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the justice that ends
all evil.
You're disgusting.
Due to your misunderstanding, probably.
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside
their homes. Hundreds were injured and many are
missing. The country's main airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and
engulfed villages. Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since
1902, when an eruption of the Santa Maria volcano
killed thousands of people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National
Disaster Management Agency (Conred), said the town
of El Rodeo had been "buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only the
results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from suffering.
God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the justice that ends
all evil.
Yes, that's why he punished the observant religious people in this revealing instance. The 1755 Lisbon earthquake occurred the morning of Saturday, 1 November, All Saints' Day.

The slaughter of the innocents and the observant.

Sickening that you imagine this.

Marvin Sebourn
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside their homes.
Hundreds were injured and many are missing. The country's main
airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and engulfed villages.
Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since 1902, when an
eruption of the Santa Maria volcano killed thousands of
people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National Disaster
Management Agency (Conred), said the town of El Rodeo had been
"buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only the
results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from
suffering. God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the
justice that ends all evil.
Yes, that's why he punished the observant religious people in this
revealing instance. The 1755 Lisbon earthquake occurred the morning
of Saturday, 1 November, All Saints' Day.
The slaughter of the innocents and the observant.
Sickening that you imagine this.
I said no. You said yes. The sickening only belongs to you.
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Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness,
intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom,
and life itself.
--
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Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside their homes.
Hundreds were injured and many are missing. The country's main
airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and engulfed villages.
Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since 1902, when an
eruption of the Santa Maria volcano killed thousands of
people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National Disaster
Management Agency (Conred), said the town of El Rodeo had been
"buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only the
results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from
suffering. God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the
justice that ends all evil.
Yes, that's why he punished the observant religious people in this
revealing instance. The 1755 Lisbon earthquake occurred the morning
of Saturday, 1 November, All Saints' Day.
The slaughter of the innocents and the observant.
Sickening that you imagine this.
I said no. You said yes. The sickening only belongs to you.
Yes, I am one (of many here) sickened by your conduct. Anything for attention.

But to go back over this, you wrote:

" All human sufferings are only the
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results of sin for abandoning God"
Children and infants suffered.
They didn't abandon your God.
You did.

You are sick.

Marvin Sebourn
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside their homes.
Hundreds were injured and many are missing. The country's main
airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and engulfed villages.
Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since 1902, when an
eruption of the Santa Maria volcano killed thousands of
people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National Disaster
Management Agency (Conred), said the town of El Rodeo had been
"buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only the
results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from
suffering. God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the
justice that ends all evil.
Yes, that's why he punished the observant religious people in this
revealing instance. The 1755 Lisbon earthquake occurred the morning
of Saturday, 1 November, All Saints' Day.
The slaughter of the innocents and the observant.
Sickening that you imagine this.
I said no. You said yes. The sickening only belongs to you.
Yes, I am one (of many here) sickened by your conduct. Anything for attention.
" All human sufferings are only the
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results of sin for abandoning God"
Children and infants suffered.
They didn't abandon your God.
You did.
You are sick.
Not so. The innocent either children or animals only suffers as the
result of sinners.
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside their homes.
Hundreds were injured and many are missing. The country's main
airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and engulfed villages.
Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since 1902, when an
eruption of the Santa Maria volcano killed thousands of people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National Disaster Management
Agency (Conred), said the town of El Rodeo had been "buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only the
results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from
suffering. God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the
justice that ends all evil.
Yes, that's why he punished the observant religious people in this
revealing instance. The 1755 Lisbon earthquake occurred the morning
of Saturday, 1 November, All Saints' Day.
The slaughter of the innocents and the observant.
Sickening that you imagine this.
I said no. You said yes. The sickening only belongs to you.
Yes, I am one (of many here) sickened by your conduct. Anything for attention.
" All human sufferings are only the
Post by aaa
results of sin for abandoning God"
Children and infants suffered.
They didn't abandon your God.
You did.
You are sick.
Not so. The innocent either children or animals only suffers as the
result of sinners.
So you say. Now prove it.
--
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aaa
2018-06-08 13:29:28 UTC
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Post by Marvin Sebourn
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside their homes.
Hundreds were injured and many are missing. The country's main
airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and engulfed villages.
Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since 1902, when an
eruption of the Santa Maria volcano killed thousands of people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National Disaster Management
Agency (Conred), said the town of El Rodeo had been "buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only the
results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from
suffering. God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the
justice that ends all evil.
Yes, that's why he punished the observant religious people in this
revealing instance. The 1755 Lisbon earthquake occurred the morning
of Saturday, 1 November, All Saints' Day.
The slaughter of the innocents and the observant.
Sickening that you imagine this.
I said no. You said yes. The sickening only belongs to you.
Yes, I am one (of many here) sickened by your conduct. Anything for attention.
" All human sufferings are only the
Post by aaa
results of sin for abandoning God"
Children and infants suffered.
They didn't abandon your God.
You did.
You are sick.
Not so. The innocent either children or animals only suffers as the
result of sinners.
So you say. Now prove it.
Prove what? What exactly can't you understand?
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2018-06-08 21:25:28 UTC
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside their homes.
Hundreds were injured and many are missing. The country's main
airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and engulfed villages.
Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since 1902, when an
eruption of the Santa Maria volcano killed thousands of people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National Disaster
Management Agency (Conred), said the town of El Rodeo had been
"buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only the
results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from
suffering. God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the
justice that ends all evil.
Yes, that's why he punished the observant religious people in this
revealing instance. The 1755 Lisbon earthquake occurred the
morning of Saturday, 1 November, All Saints' Day.
The slaughter of the innocents and the observant.
Sickening that you imagine this.
I said no. You said yes. The sickening only belongs to you.
Yes, I am one (of many here) sickened by your conduct. Anything for attention.
" All human sufferings are only the
Post by aaa
results of sin for abandoning God"
Children and infants suffered.
They didn't abandon your God.
You did.
You are sick.
Not so. The innocent either children or animals only suffers as the
result of sinners.
So you say. Now prove it.
Prove what? What exactly can't you understand?
Prove that "innocent either children or animals only suffers as the result
of sinners."
Bet you can't.
--
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2018-06-08 21:29:00 UTC
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Post by aaa
Post by Marvin Sebourn
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside their homes.
Hundreds were injured and many are missing. The country's main
airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and engulfed villages.
Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since 1902, when an
eruption of the Santa Maria volcano killed thousands of people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National Disaster
Management Agency (Conred), said the town of El Rodeo had been
"buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only the
results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from
suffering. God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the
justice that ends all evil.
Yes, that's why he punished the observant religious people in this
revealing instance. The 1755 Lisbon earthquake occurred the
morning of Saturday, 1 November, All Saints' Day.
The slaughter of the innocents and the observant.
Sickening that you imagine this.
I said no. You said yes. The sickening only belongs to you.
Yes, I am one (of many here) sickened by your conduct. Anything for attention.
" All human sufferings are only the
Post by aaa
results of sin for abandoning God"
Children and infants suffered.
They didn't abandon your God.
You did.
You are sick.
Not so. The innocent either children or animals only suffers as the
result of sinners.
So you say. Now prove it.
Prove what? What exactly can't you understand?
Prove that "innocent either children or animals only suffers as the result
of sinners."
Bet you can't.
every time the bell rings an angel gets a ding
Robert Carnegie
2018-06-08 22:11:47 UTC
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Post by aaa
Post by Marvin Sebourn
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside their homes.
Hundreds were injured and many are missing. The country's main
airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and engulfed villages.
Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since 1902, when an
eruption of the Santa Maria volcano killed thousands of people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National Disaster
Management Agency (Conred), said the town of El Rodeo had been
"buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only the
results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from
suffering. God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the
justice that ends all evil.
Yes, that's why he punished the observant religious people in this
revealing instance. The 1755 Lisbon earthquake occurred the
morning of Saturday, 1 November, All Saints' Day.
The slaughter of the innocents and the observant.
Sickening that you imagine this.
I said no. You said yes. The sickening only belongs to you.
Yes, I am one (of many here) sickened by your conduct. Anything for attention.
" All human sufferings are only the
Post by aaa
results of sin for abandoning God"
Children and infants suffered.
They didn't abandon your God.
You did.
You are sick.
Not so. The innocent either children or animals only suffers as the
result of sinners.
So you say. Now prove it.
Prove what? What exactly can't you understand?
Prove that "innocent either children or animals only suffers as the result
of sinners."
Bet you can't.
--
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Guys: he KNOWS he's a pile of crap. Stop poking it.
aaa
2018-06-09 09:28:01 UTC
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Post by Marvin Sebourn
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside their homes.
Hundreds were injured and many are missing. The country's main
airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and engulfed villages.
Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since 1902, when an
eruption of the Santa Maria volcano killed thousands of people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National Disaster
Management Agency (Conred), said the town of El Rodeo had been
"buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only the
results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from
suffering. God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the
justice that ends all evil.
Yes, that's why he punished the observant religious people in this
revealing instance. The 1755 Lisbon earthquake occurred the
morning of Saturday, 1 November, All Saints' Day.
The slaughter of the innocents and the observant.
Sickening that you imagine this.
I said no. You said yes. The sickening only belongs to you.
Yes, I am one (of many here) sickened by your conduct. Anything for attention.
" All human sufferings are only the
Post by aaa
results of sin for abandoning God"
Children and infants suffered.
They didn't abandon your God.
You did.
You are sick.
Not so. The innocent either children or animals only suffers as the
result of sinners.
So you say. Now prove it.
Prove what? What exactly can't you understand?
Prove that "innocent either children or animals only suffers as the result
of sinners."
Bet you can't.
That's just simple logic. It's already rather obvious in my opinion.
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Smiler
2018-06-09 23:05:36 UTC
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside their homes.
Hundreds were injured and many are missing. The country's main
airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and engulfed villages.
Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since 1902, when an
eruption of the Santa Maria volcano killed thousands of people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National Disaster
Management Agency (Conred), said the town of El Rodeo had been
"buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only
the results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from
suffering. God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the
justice that ends all evil.
Yes, that's why he punished the observant religious people in
this revealing instance. The 1755 Lisbon earthquake occurred the
morning of Saturday, 1 November, All Saints' Day.
The slaughter of the innocents and the observant.
Sickening that you imagine this.
I said no. You said yes. The sickening only belongs to you.
Yes, I am one (of many here) sickened by your conduct. Anything for attention.
" All human sufferings are only the
Post by aaa
results of sin for abandoning God"
Children and infants suffered.
They didn't abandon your God.
You did.
You are sick.
Not so. The innocent either children or animals only suffers as the
result of sinners.
So you say. Now prove it.
Prove what? What exactly can't you understand?
Prove that "innocent either children or animals only suffers as the
result of sinners."
Bet you can't.
That's just simple logic. It's already rather obvious in my opinion.
No proof there, or anywhere else from you.
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Mitchell Holman
2018-06-08 01:54:32 UTC
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Post by Marvin Sebourn
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside their homes.
Hundreds were injured and many are missing. The country's main
airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and engulfed villages.
Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since 1902, when an
eruption of the Santa Maria volcano killed thousands of
people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National Disaster
Management Agency (Conred), said the town of El Rodeo had been
"buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only the
results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from
suffering. God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the
justice that ends all evil.
Yes, that's why he punished the observant religious people in this
revealing instance. The 1755 Lisbon earthquake occurred the
morning of Saturday, 1 November, All Saints' Day.
The slaughter of the innocents and the observant.
Sickening that you imagine this.
I said no. You said yes. The sickening only belongs to you.
Yes, I am one (of many here) sickened by your conduct. Anything for attention.
" All human sufferings are only the
Post by aaa
results of sin for abandoning God"
Children and infants suffered.
They didn't abandon your God.
You did.
You are sick.
Not so. The innocent either children or animals only suffers as the
result of sinners.
Wait a minute.

Just said animals do not suffer "because
they are not self-aware".

"When talking about suffering, it's always
the self that suffers. So it's because of
self-awareness, there is suffering. Animals
are not self-aware."
"aaa", June 6 2018


Now you are saying animals DO suffer,
but only because of human sin.

Do explain.
aaa
2018-06-08 13:27:28 UTC
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Post by Marvin Sebourn
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside their homes.
Hundreds were injured and many are missing. The country's main
airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and engulfed villages.
Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since 1902, when an
eruption of the Santa Maria volcano killed thousands of
people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National Disaster
Management Agency (Conred), said the town of El Rodeo had been
"buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only the
results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from
suffering. God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the
justice that ends all evil.
Yes, that's why he punished the observant religious people in this
revealing instance. The 1755 Lisbon earthquake occurred the
morning of Saturday, 1 November, All Saints' Day.
The slaughter of the innocents and the observant.
Sickening that you imagine this.
I said no. You said yes. The sickening only belongs to you.
Yes, I am one (of many here) sickened by your conduct. Anything for attention.
" All human sufferings are only the
Post by aaa
results of sin for abandoning God"
Children and infants suffered.
They didn't abandon your God.
You did.
You are sick.
Not so. The innocent either children or animals only suffers as the
result of sinners.
Wait a minute.
Just said animals do not suffer "because
they are not self-aware".
"When talking about suffering, it's always
the self that suffers. So it's because of
self-awareness, there is suffering. Animals
are not self-aware."
"aaa", June 6 2018
Now you are saying animals DO suffer,
but only because of human sin.
Do explain.
In a world without humans, there would be no one to sin and create evil,
so there would be no one to suffer sin and evil. In a world with the
fallen humans, all lives have to suffer the sin and evil created by humans.
--
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Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
Mitchell Holman
2018-06-08 17:44:24 UTC
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Post by aaa
Post by Marvin Sebourn
Post by aaa
Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside their homes.
Hundreds were injured and many are missing. The country's main
airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and engulfed villages.
Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since 1902, when an
eruption of the Santa Maria volcano killed thousands of
people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National Disaster
Management Agency (Conred), said the town of El Rodeo had been
"buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only
the results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from
suffering. God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the
justice that ends all evil.
Yes, that's why he punished the observant religious people in
this revealing instance. The 1755 Lisbon earthquake occurred the
morning of Saturday, 1 November, All Saints' Day.
The slaughter of the innocents and the observant.
Sickening that you imagine this.
I said no. You said yes. The sickening only belongs to you.
Yes, I am one (of many here) sickened by your conduct. Anything for attention.
" All human sufferings are only the
Post by aaa
results of sin for abandoning God"
Children and infants suffered.
They didn't abandon your God.
You did.
You are sick.
Not so. The innocent either children or animals only suffers as the
result of sinners.
Wait a minute.
Just said animals do not suffer "because
they are not self-aware".
"When talking about suffering, it's always
the self that suffers. So it's because of
self-awareness, there is suffering. Animals
are not self-aware."
"aaa", June 6 2018
Now you are saying animals DO suffer,
but only because of human sin.
Do explain.
In a world without humans, there would be no one to sin and create
evil, so there would be no one to suffer sin and evil. In a world with
the fallen humans, all lives have to suffer the sin and evil created
by humans.
So animals without people around don't
suffer, but animals WITH people around become
"self-aware" and DO suffer?
aaa
2018-06-09 09:30:56 UTC
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Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Marvin Sebourn
Post by aaa
Post by Marvin Sebourn
Post by aaa
Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside their homes.
Hundreds were injured and many are missing. The country's main
airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and engulfed villages.
Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since 1902, when an
eruption of the Santa Maria volcano killed thousands of
people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National Disaster
Management Agency (Conred), said the town of El Rodeo had been
"buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only
the results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from
suffering. God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the
justice that ends all evil.
Yes, that's why he punished the observant religious people in
this revealing instance. The 1755 Lisbon earthquake occurred the
morning of Saturday, 1 November, All Saints' Day.
The slaughter of the innocents and the observant.
Sickening that you imagine this.
I said no. You said yes. The sickening only belongs to you.
Yes, I am one (of many here) sickened by your conduct. Anything for attention.
" All human sufferings are only the
Post by aaa
results of sin for abandoning God"
Children and infants suffered.
They didn't abandon your God.
You did.
You are sick.
Not so. The innocent either children or animals only suffers as the
result of sinners.
Wait a minute.
Just said animals do not suffer "because
they are not self-aware".
"When talking about suffering, it's always
the self that suffers. So it's because of
self-awareness, there is suffering. Animals
are not self-aware."
"aaa", June 6 2018
Now you are saying animals DO suffer,
but only because of human sin.
Do explain.
In a world without humans, there would be no one to sin and create
evil, so there would be no one to suffer sin and evil. In a world with
the fallen humans, all lives have to suffer the sin and evil created
by humans.
So animals without people around don't
suffer, but animals WITH people around become
"self-aware" and DO suffer?
What exactly can you not understand about that I said? What is your
point to play such word games?
--
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Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
Mitchell Holman
2018-06-09 12:55:10 UTC
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Post by aaa
Post by Marvin Sebourn
Post by aaa
Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside their homes.
Hundreds were injured and many are missing. The country's main
airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and engulfed
villages.
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
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Post by Marvin Sebourn
Post by aaa
Post by Marvin Sebourn
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Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since 1902, when an
eruption of the Santa Maria volcano killed thousands of
people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National Disaster
Management Agency (Conred), said the town of El Rodeo had been
"buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only
the results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from
suffering. God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the
justice that ends all evil.
Yes, that's why he punished the observant religious people in
this revealing instance. The 1755 Lisbon earthquake occurred the
morning of Saturday, 1 November, All Saints' Day.
The slaughter of the innocents and the observant.
Sickening that you imagine this.
I said no. You said yes. The sickening only belongs to you.
Yes, I am one (of many here) sickened by your conduct. Anything
for
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Marvin Sebourn
attention.
" All human sufferings are only the
Post by aaa
results of sin for abandoning God"
Children and infants suffered.
They didn't abandon your God.
You did.
You are sick.
Not so. The innocent either children or animals only suffers as the
result of sinners.
Wait a minute.
Just said animals do not suffer "because
they are not self-aware".
"When talking about suffering, it's always
the self that suffers. So it's because of
self-awareness, there is suffering. Animals
are not self-aware."
"aaa", June 6 2018
Now you are saying animals DO suffer,
but only because of human sin.
Do explain.
In a world without humans, there would be no one to sin and create
evil, so there would be no one to suffer sin and evil. In a world with
the fallen humans, all lives have to suffer the sin and evil created
by humans.
So animals without people around don't
suffer, but animals WITH people around become
"self-aware" and DO suffer?
What exactly can you not understand about that I said? What is your
point to play such word games?
Just explain how animals both suffer (because
of human sin) and do not suffer (without humans
around).
aaa
2018-06-09 18:34:54 UTC
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Post by aaa
Post by Marvin Sebourn
Post by aaa
Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside their homes.
Hundreds were injured and many are missing. The country's main
airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and engulfed
villages.
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Post by Mitchell Holman
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Post by Marvin Sebourn
Post by aaa
Post by Marvin Sebourn
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Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since 1902, when an
eruption of the Santa Maria volcano killed thousands of
people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National Disaster
Management Agency (Conred), said the town of El Rodeo had been
"buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only
the results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from
suffering. God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the
justice that ends all evil.
Yes, that's why he punished the observant religious people in
this revealing instance. The 1755 Lisbon earthquake occurred
the
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Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Marvin Sebourn
Post by aaa
Post by Marvin Sebourn
morning of Saturday, 1 November, All Saints' Day.
The slaughter of the innocents and the observant.
Sickening that you imagine this.
I said no. You said yes. The sickening only belongs to you.
Yes, I am one (of many here) sickened by your conduct. Anything
for
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Marvin Sebourn
attention.
" All human sufferings are only the
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results of sin for abandoning God"
Children and infants suffered.
They didn't abandon your God.
You did.
You are sick.
Not so. The innocent either children or animals only suffers as the
result of sinners.
Wait a minute.
Just said animals do not suffer "because
they are not self-aware".
"When talking about suffering, it's always
the self that suffers. So it's because of
self-awareness, there is suffering. Animals
are not self-aware."
"aaa", June 6 2018
Now you are saying animals DO suffer,
but only because of human sin.
Do explain.
In a world without humans, there would be no one to sin and create
evil, so there would be no one to suffer sin and evil. In a world
with
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
the fallen humans, all lives have to suffer the sin and evil created
by humans.
So animals without people around don't
suffer, but animals WITH people around become
"self-aware" and DO suffer?
What exactly can you not understand about that I said? What is your
point to play such word games?
Just explain how animals both suffer (because
of human sin) and do not suffer (without humans
around).
I made my point. There is nothing to explain. You choose to be confused.
There is nothing I can do.
--
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Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
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2018-06-09 23:07:21 UTC
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside their homes.
Hundreds were injured and many are missing. The country's
main airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and engulfed
villages.
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Marvin Sebourn
Post by aaa
Post by Marvin Sebourn
Post by aaa
Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since 1902, when an
eruption of the Santa Maria volcano killed thousands of
people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National Disaster
Management Agency (Conred), said the town of El Rodeo had
been "buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only
the results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from
suffering. God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the
justice that ends all evil.
Yes, that's why he punished the observant religious people in
this revealing instance. The 1755 Lisbon earthquake occurred
the
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Marvin Sebourn
Post by aaa
Post by Marvin Sebourn
morning of Saturday, 1 November, All Saints' Day.
The slaughter of the innocents and the observant.
Sickening that you imagine this.
I said no. You said yes. The sickening only belongs to you.
Yes, I am one (of many here) sickened by your conduct. Anything
for
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Marvin Sebourn
attention.
" All human sufferings are only the
Post by aaa
results of sin for abandoning God"
Children and infants suffered.
They didn't abandon your God.
You did.
You are sick.
Not so. The innocent either children or animals only suffers as
the result of sinners.
Wait a minute.
Just said animals do not suffer "because
they are not self-aware".
"When talking about suffering, it's always the self that suffers.
So it's because of self-awareness, there is suffering. Animals are
not self-aware."
"aaa", June 6 2018
Now you are saying animals DO suffer,
but only because of human sin.
Do explain.
In a world without humans, there would be no one to sin and create
evil, so there would be no one to suffer sin and evil. In a world
with
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
the fallen humans, all lives have to suffer the sin and evil created
by humans.
So animals without people around don't
suffer, but animals WITH people around become "self-aware" and DO
suffer?
What exactly can you not understand about that I said? What is your
point to play such word games?
Just explain how animals both suffer (because
of human sin) and do not suffer (without humans around).
I made my point. There is nothing to explain. You choose to be confused.
There is nothing I can do.
More lame excuses for not having any evidence.
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All gods are tailored to order. They're made
to exactly fit the prejudices of their believers.

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2018-06-09 23:10:09 UTC
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Post by aaa
Post by Marvin Sebourn
Post by aaa
Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside their homes.
Hundreds were injured and many are missing. The country's
main airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and engulfed
villages.
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Marvin Sebourn
Post by aaa
Post by Marvin Sebourn
Post by aaa
Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since 1902, when an
eruption of the Santa Maria volcano killed thousands of
people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National Disaster
Management Agency (Conred), said the town of El Rodeo had
been "buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only
the results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from
suffering. God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the
justice that ends all evil.
Yes, that's why he punished the observant religious people in
this revealing instance. The 1755 Lisbon earthquake occurred
the
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Marvin Sebourn
Post by aaa
Post by Marvin Sebourn
morning of Saturday, 1 November, All Saints' Day.
The slaughter of the innocents and the observant.
Sickening that you imagine this.
I said no. You said yes. The sickening only belongs to you.
Yes, I am one (of many here) sickened by your conduct. Anything
for
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Marvin Sebourn
attention.
" All human sufferings are only the
Post by aaa
results of sin for abandoning God"
Children and infants suffered.
They didn't abandon your God.
You did.
You are sick.
Not so. The innocent either children or animals only suffers as
the result of sinners.
Wait a minute.
Just said animals do not suffer "because
they are not self-aware".
"When talking about suffering, it's always the self that suffers.
So it's because of self-awareness, there is suffering. Animals are
not self-aware."
"aaa", June 6 2018
Now you are saying animals DO suffer,
but only because of human sin.
Do explain.
In a world without humans, there would be no one to sin and create
evil, so there would be no one to suffer sin and evil. In a world
with
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
the fallen humans, all lives have to suffer the sin and evil created
by humans.
So animals without people around don't
suffer, but animals WITH people around become "self-aware" and DO
suffer?
What exactly can you not understand about that I said? What is your
point to play such word games?
Just explain how animals both suffer (because
of human sin) and do not suffer (without humans around).
I made my point. There is nothing to explain. You choose to be confused.
There is nothing I can do.
More lame excuses for not having any evidence.
none that you would accept anyway so why ask for it
aaa
2018-06-10 01:21:36 UTC
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Post by aaa
Post by Marvin Sebourn
Post by aaa
Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside their homes.
Hundreds were injured and many are missing. The country's
main airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and engulfed
villages.
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Marvin Sebourn
Post by aaa
Post by Marvin Sebourn
Post by aaa
Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since 1902, when an
eruption of the Santa Maria volcano killed thousands of
people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National Disaster
Management Agency (Conred), said the town of El Rodeo had
been "buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
No, it's the punishment of sin. All human sufferings are only
the results of sin for abandoning God who keeps life away from
suffering. God's judgment is never evil. God's judgment is the
justice that ends all evil.
Yes, that's why he punished the observant religious people in
this revealing instance. The 1755 Lisbon earthquake occurred
the
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Marvin Sebourn
Post by aaa
Post by Marvin Sebourn
morning of Saturday, 1 November, All Saints' Day.
The slaughter of the innocents and the observant.
Sickening that you imagine this.
I said no. You said yes. The sickening only belongs to you.
Yes, I am one (of many here) sickened by your conduct. Anything
for
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Marvin Sebourn
attention.
" All human sufferings are only the
Post by aaa
results of sin for abandoning God"
Children and infants suffered.
They didn't abandon your God.
You did.
You are sick.
Not so. The innocent either children or animals only suffers as
the result of sinners.
Wait a minute.
Just said animals do not suffer "because
they are not self-aware".
"When talking about suffering, it's always the self that suffers.
So it's because of self-awareness, there is suffering. Animals are
not self-aware."
"aaa", June 6 2018
Now you are saying animals DO suffer,
but only because of human sin.
Do explain.
In a world without humans, there would be no one to sin and create
evil, so there would be no one to suffer sin and evil. In a world
with
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
the fallen humans, all lives have to suffer the sin and evil created
by humans.
So animals without people around don't
suffer, but animals WITH people around become "self-aware" and DO
suffer?
What exactly can you not understand about that I said? What is your
point to play such word games?
Just explain how animals both suffer (because
of human sin) and do not suffer (without humans around).
I made my point. There is nothing to explain. You choose to be confused.
There is nothing I can do.
More lame excuses for not having any evidence.
There can never be any evidence as long as you insist on being willfully
blind to the spiritual.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
Amazing Answers
2018-06-04 12:52:00 UTC
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside
their homes. Hundreds were injured and many are
missing. The country's main airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and
engulfed villages. Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since
1902, when an eruption of the Santa Maria volcano
killed thousands of people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National
Disaster Management Agency (Conred), said the town
of El Rodeo had been "buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
https://nypost.com/2017/03/08/villagers-say-this-demonic-voodoo-doll-is-torturing-their-town/
Yosemite Sam
2018-06-04 14:27:25 UTC
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This is a private matter between God the Andrew and the family of victims.
someone
2018-06-08 00:47:36 UTC
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Post by Peter Pan
Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside
their homes. Hundreds were injured and many are
missing. The country's main airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and
engulfed villages. Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since
1902, when an eruption of the Santa Maria volcano
killed thousands of people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National
Disaster Management Agency (Conred), said the town
of El Rodeo had been "buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
I would guess that this is an unbiased room. One which is neither Heaven or Hell. In which we are free to reject the loving selfless path is we should so want (which maybe you would not get in Heaven as the thought would never cross your mind). That volcano explosions are just the type of thing that can happen in this room. Not an issue of God's judgement of the people in the region, but a result of the nature of this room not having a bias.
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Lava flows hit villages, killing people inside
their homes. Hundreds were injured and many are
missing. The country's main airport is closed...
Molten rock rushed down the mountainside and
engulfed villages. Ash reached up to more than 6km.
This is Guatemala's deadliest such event since
1902, when an eruption of the Santa Maria volcano
killed thousands of people...
Sergio Cabañas, head of the country's National
Disaster Management Agency (Conred), said the town
of El Rodeo had been "buried".
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974>
Why didn't Andrew warn them?
Was it God's judgment?
I would guess that this is an unbiased room. One which is neither Heaven or Hell. In which we are free to reject the loving selfless path is we should so want (which maybe you would not get in Heaven as the thought would never cross your mind). That volcano explosions are just the type of thing that can happen in this room. Not an issue of God's judgement of the people in the region, but a result of the nature of this room not having a bias.
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