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Is Religious Faith A Mental Illness?
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Ivan The Terrible
2020-05-17 00:18:29 UTC
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No, say most psychiatrists
Cloud Hobbit
2020-05-17 02:13:44 UTC
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Maybe not.

It is for sure stupid to claim amything good about faith.

Basing one's code of conduct on the basis of what an unproven God says is not the way to enlightenment.
Ivan The Terrible
2020-05-17 02:48:19 UTC
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Maybe not.
It is for sure stupid to claim amything good about faith.
Basing one's code of conduct on the basis of what an unproven God says is not the way to enlightenment.
Compulsive lying is a sign of mental illness.
Cloud Hobbit
2020-05-17 09:26:08 UTC
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Compulsive lying is a sign of mental illness.
You prove that regularly.😷
Tim
2020-05-17 09:47:21 UTC
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Maybe not.
It is for sure stupid to claim amything good about faith.
Basing one's code of conduct on the basis of what an unproven God says is not the way to enlightenment.
Compulsive lying is a sign of mental illness.
We know, that's why people think you suffer from mental illness:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.atheism/02YR6DG8VRY/3kngTWpUw2IJ

"At least I had the balls to defend my country, not being a selfish coward like you."

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.atheism/aod7Q3zB-b4/nYrs2c3fGWgJ

"I attended Law school at the University of Illinois in Champaign. You
can check their records if you don't believe me.I also practiced
criminal law as a prosecutor in the Navy for 4 years."


https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.atheism/ldfjp4f_aRs/0Y_KyW-5DQAJ

"You really think the USA will deport a man who fought for her in the Navy for 6 years? YOU ARE ONE SILLY MOTHERFUCKER"

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.atheism/ldfjp4f_aRs/Fyki5R2fCwAJ

"I guess you are too stupid to know that North Vietnam didn't have much of a navy. That's why I missed combat."


http://tinyurl.com/oovvzzc

"I joined the Navy Reserve at first to avoid going to Vietnam."
michellemalkingmail.com
2020-05-17 16:38:37 UTC
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Maybe not.
It is for sure stupid to claim amything good about faith.
Basing one's code of conduct on the basis of what an unproven God says is not the way to enlightenment.
Compulsive lying is a sign of mental illness.
Then, you should stop lying, ArtieJoe.
Don Martin
2020-05-17 18:13:49 UTC
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Maybe not.
It is for sure stupid to claim amything good about faith.
Basing one's code of conduct on the basis of what an unproven God says is not the way to enlightenment.
Compulsive lying is a sign of mental illness.
Then, you should stop lying, ArtieJoe.
First, a cure. Then, veracity.
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michellemalkingmail.com
2020-05-17 19:57:13 UTC
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Post by Cloud Hobbit
Maybe not.
It is for sure stupid to claim amything good about faith.
Basing one's code of conduct on the basis of what an unproven God says is not the way to enlightenment.
Compulsive lying is a sign of mental illness.
Then, you should stop lying, ArtieJoe.
First, a cure. Then, veracity.
I don't think there is a cure for his kind of narcissism. It usually
starts showing up when a person is in their early twenties but it
can show up earlier.
John Locke
2020-05-17 05:28:39 UTC
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No, say most psychiatrists
...the guy who has a personal relationship with a giant, invisible
white rabbit is fucking nuts but the guy who has a personal
relationship with a giant, invisible sky daddy is "perfectly sane".
The joker who talks to an invisible god is only deemed sane because
it's socially acceptable to do so.


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Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries,
the cruel and tortuous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness
with which more than half the Bible is filled, it would be more
consistent that we call it the word of a demon than the word of God.
It is a history of wickedness that has served to corrupt and
brutalize humankind.- Thomas Paine
______________________________________________________________________
Kevrob
2020-05-17 08:02:42 UTC
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Post by John Locke
On Sat, 16 May 2020 17:18:29 -0700 (PDT), Ivan The Terrible
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No, say most psychiatrists
...the guy who has a personal relationship with a giant, invisible
white rabbit is fucking nuts but the guy who has a personal
relationship with a giant, invisible sky daddy is "perfectly sane".
The joker who talks to an invisible god is only deemed sane because
it's socially acceptable to do so.
Belief in very powerful, even omnipotent beings that one
talks to and, if not receiving responses aloud, then "in
my heart" is Son-of-Sam behavior. When one slaps the name
of a ghod on the boojum, then it gets "grandfathered in"
and therapists are willing to ply along with the fiction,
even if they don't believe in it themselves.

The whole superstructure of theology was created, or
emerged from and evolved from the Greco-Roman philosophical
tradition. It was established as a way that people who
used reason to deal with the universe rationalized the
mythologies of first the pre-Christian religion of the
ancient world, and later, Christianity. Untrue nonsense
wrapped in logic and philosophical speculation can buttress
the woo-woo quite well enough that oner does not need to be
mad to believe it.

Centuries after the Renaissance and the Enlightenment,
rational people should have no excuse to be fooled any
longer.

--
Kevin R
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Ivan The Terrible
2020-05-17 08:55:39 UTC
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Post by John Locke
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No, say most psychiatrists
...the guy who has a personal relationship with a giant, invisible
white rabbit is fucking nuts but the guy who has a personal
relationship with a giant, invisible sky daddy is "perfectly sane".
The joker who talks to an invisible god is only deemed sane because
it's socially acceptable to do so.
Belief in very powerful, even omnipotent beings that one
talks to and, if not receiving responses aloud, then "in
my heart" is Son-of-Sam behavior. When one slaps the name
of a ghod on the boojum, then it gets "grandfathered in"
and therapists are willing to ply along with the fiction,
even if they don't believe in it themselves.
The whole superstructure of theology was created, or
emerged from and evolved from the Greco-Roman philosophical
tradition. It was established as a way that people who
used reason to deal with the universe rationalized the
mythologies of first the pre-Christian religion of the
ancient world, and later, Christianity. Untrue nonsense
wrapped in logic and philosophical speculation can buttress
the woo-woo quite well enough that oner does not need to be
mad to believe it.
That's a lie.

The origins of Judaism according to the current historical view, in contradistinction to the religious account as described in the text of the Hebrew Bible, lie in the Bronze Age amidst polytheistic ancient Semitic religions, specifically evolving out of Ancient Canaanite polytheism, then co-existing with Babylonian ...

Origins of Judaism - Wikipedia
Post by Kevrob
Centuries after the Renaissance and the Enlightenment,
rational people should have no excuse to be fooled any
longer.
Rational, you say?

How about these guys, all theists

Galileo
Newton
FDR
Eisenhower
Truman
MacArthur
Kennedy
Buckley


You were a Catholic and you actually think your religion came from Greek mythology? It came from Judaism, jackass. Our Torah is part of your bible.
Kevrob
2020-05-17 15:59:35 UTC
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Post by Ivan The Terrible
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No, say most psychiatrists
...the guy who has a personal relationship with a giant, invisible
white rabbit is fucking nuts but the guy who has a personal
relationship with a giant, invisible sky daddy is "perfectly sane".
The joker who talks to an invisible god is only deemed sane because
it's socially acceptable to do so.
Belief in very powerful, even omnipotent beings that one
talks to and, if not receiving responses aloud, then "in
my heart" is Son-of-Sam behavior. When one slaps the name
of a ghod on the boojum, then it gets "grandfathered in"
and therapists are willing to ply along with the fiction,
even if they don't believe in it themselves.
The whole superstructure of theology was created, or
emerged from and evolved from the Greco-Roman philosophical
tradition. It was established as a way that people who
used reason to deal with the universe rationalized the
mythologies of first the pre-Christian religion of the
ancient world, and later, Christianity. Untrue nonsense
wrapped in logic and philosophical speculation can buttress
the woo-woo quite well enough that oner does not need to be
mad to believe it.
That's a lie.
The origins of Judaism according to the current historical view,
in contradistinction to the religious account as described in the
text of the Hebrew Bible, lie in the Bronze Age amidst polytheistic
ancient Semitic religions, specifically evolving out of Ancient
Canaanite polytheism, then co-existing with Babylonian ...
Origins of Judaism - Wikipedia
Some folks can't be bothered to post a link.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origins_of_Judaism
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Post by Kevrob
Centuries after the Renaissance and the Enlightenment,
rational people should have no excuse to be fooled any
longer.
Rational, you say?
How about these guys, all theists
Galileo
Newton
FDR
Eisenhower
Truman
MacArthur
Kennedy
Buckley
You were a Catholic and you actually think your religion came from Greek mythology? It came from Judaism, jackass. Our Torah is part of your bible.
I wrote "theology," not "religion," and only an ignoramus or a
mendacious asshole would conflate the underlying mythology with
the tortuous attempts to justify myth with reality.

As for your list of (in)famous believers, the politicians and
generals may have held authentic theistic views, but had they not,
and expressed that lack of faith to the electorate or their
commanders, they wouldn't have gotten far in their careers.

When I wrote "... pre-Christian religion of the ancient world.."
I was not specifically referencing Judaism, anyway. Much later
Judaism has the likes of Spinoza and Maimonides spinning their
own theological webs. In ancient times, there were "Hellenized
Jews," and that strain of Jewish thought survives in Christianity,
if not in Judaism.

[quote]

It is not true to say with Güdemann ("Monatsschrift," xlvii. 248)
that Hellenism had no appreciable influence upon the development of
Judaism; its influence was appreciable for many centuries; but it
was driven out of the Jewish camp by the national sentiment aroused
in the Maccabean and Bar Kokba revolts, and in forming the bridge
between Judaism and Christianity it lost whatever permanent influence
it might have possessed. Since that time, even in Egypt, the classical
home of Hellenism, rabbinical Jewish communities have flourished that
have borne no perceptible trace of the movement which made Alexandria great.

[/quote]

http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/7535-hellenism

If one wants to dismiss the existence of the Septuagint (the
Old Testament in Greek) compiled before the Common Era, that
would just be anti-historical thinking.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septuagint

Don't forget Gnosticism...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnosticism

..and the importation of Platonic thought into the Christian
and Gnostic traditions.

https://www.iep.utm.edu/neoplato/

Perhaps Philo never wrote?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philo

Is Tandy next going to tell us Judaism absorbed no Persian
ideas during the Babylonian captivity?

As a philosopher, theologian or historian, Tandy is a great
accountant.

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SkyEyes
2020-05-17 11:37:17 UTC
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No, say most psychiatrists
...the guy who has a personal relationship with a giant, invisible
white rabbit is fucking nuts but the guy who has a personal
relationship with a giant, invisible sky daddy is "perfectly sane".
The joker who talks to an invisible god is only deemed sane because
it's socially acceptable to do so.
Belief in very powerful, even omnipotent beings that one
talks to and, if not receiving responses aloud, then "in
my heart" is Son-of-Sam behavior. When one slaps the name
of a ghod on the boojum, then it gets "grandfathered in"
and therapists are willing to ply along with the fiction,
even if they don't believe in it themselves.
The whole superstructure of theology was created, or
emerged from and evolved from the Greco-Roman philosophical
tradition. It was established as a way that people who
used reason to deal with the universe rationalized the
mythologies of first the pre-Christian religion of the
ancient world, and later, Christianity. Untrue nonsense
wrapped in logic and philosophical speculation can buttress
the woo-woo quite well enough that oner does not need to be
mad to believe it.
Centuries after the Renaissance and the Enlightenment,
rational people should have no excuse to be fooled any
longer.
Indeed. Religious belief is superstition, nothing more.

Brenda Nelson, A.A. #34
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Ivan The Terrible
2020-05-17 08:46:19 UTC
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No, say most psychiatrists
...the guy who has a personal relationship with a giant, invisible
white rabbit is fucking nuts but the guy who has a personal
relationship with a giant, invisible sky daddy is "perfectly sane".
The joker who talks to an invisible god is only deemed sane because
it's socially acceptable to do so.
The word "sanity" is not medical, but legal. It describes the mind of a violent criminal in court when his punishment is to be determined. It's amazing how you twist and distort the language.

LOL! The difference is huge. The existence of God is described by the Bible and numerous other religious texts written over centuries. There is no such evidence for the rabbit. Religion is not delusion because it is faith, not fact. A delusion is the seeing of things which are not there. Honest theists
know and admit that their religious beliefs are things they hope for, not things which actually exist.
michellemalkingmail.com
2020-05-17 16:43:58 UTC
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No, say most psychiatrists
...the guy who has a personal relationship with a giant, invisible
white rabbit is fucking nuts but the guy who has a personal
relationship with a giant, invisible sky daddy is "perfectly sane".
The joker who talks to an invisible god is only deemed sane because
it's socially acceptable to do so.
The word "sanity" is not medical, but legal. It describes the mind of a violent criminal in court when his punishment is to be determined. It's amazing how you twist and distort the language.
Delusion is also the believing in things that can't be proven to exist.
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LOL! The difference is huge. The existence of God is described by the Bible and numerous other religious texts written over centuries. There is no such evidence for the rabbit. Religion is not delusion because it is faith, not fact. A delusion is the seeing of things which are not there. Honest theists
know and admit that their religious beliefs are things they hope for, not things which actually exist.
Your godthing is the imaginary rabbit. You worship Harvey!
SkyEyes
2020-05-17 11:35:16 UTC
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No, say most psychiatrists
...the guy who has a personal relationship with a giant, invisible
white rabbit is fucking nuts but the guy who has a personal
relationship with a giant, invisible sky daddy is "perfectly sane".
The joker who talks to an invisible god is only deemed sane because
it's socially acceptable to do so.
Exactly.

Brenda Nelson, A.A. #34
BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
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Andrew W
2020-05-17 08:33:48 UTC
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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of their strong
religious beliefs.
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The golden rule with food - if it smells strange from the fridge then throw
it in the bin. With Christianity, if it sounds strange and it's from the
Bible then you must embrace it as the word of God.

A question to all Christians: Was the Bible inspired or dictated? Because if
it was just inspired then it can't be called God's word.

http://www.rumormillnews.com -- The best alternative news site.
Yap Honghor
2020-05-17 10:58:44 UTC
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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of their strong
religious beliefs.
And those "some people" are predominately believing fools in this world!!!!
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The golden rule with food - if it smells strange from the fridge then throw
it in the bin. With Christianity, if it sounds strange and it's from the
Bible then you must embrace it as the word of God.
A question to all Christians: Was the Bible inspired or dictated? Because if
it was just inspired then it can't be called God's word.
http://www.rumormillnews.com -- The best alternative news site.
SkyEyes
2020-05-17 11:56:45 UTC
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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of their strong
religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of religiosity and the presence of a god can be invoked by stimulating a person's temporal lobe (https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lobe-stimulation/). Some epileptics have religious experiences pre- and post-seizure (https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lobe-epilepsy-aka-tle).

I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have learned to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their brains.

If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it ain't supernatural.

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Ivan The Terrible
2020-05-17 13:48:28 UTC
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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of their strong
religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of religiosity and the presence of a god can be invoked by stimulating a person's temporal lobe (https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lobe-stimulation/). Some epileptics have religious experiences pre- and post-seizure (https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lobe-epilepsy-aka-tle).
I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have learned to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their brains.
If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it ain't supernatural.
Nobody says religious feeling is supernatural.
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2020-05-17 15:10:08 UTC
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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of their strong
religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of religiosity
and
the presence of a god can be invoked by stimulating a person's
temporal lobe
(https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lobe
-stimulation/). Some epileptics have religious experiences pre- and
post-seizure
(https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lobe
-epilepsy-aka-tle).
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I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have
learned
to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their
brains.
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If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it ain't
supernatural.
Nobody says religious feeling is supernatural.
supernatural:

of, pertaining to, characteristic of, or
attributed to God or a deity.
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/supernatural?s=t
michellemalkingmail.com
2020-05-17 16:48:37 UTC
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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of their strong
religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of religiosity and the presence of a god can be invoked by stimulating a person's temporal lobe (https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lobe-stimulation/). Some epileptics have religious experiences pre- and post-seizure (https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lobe-epilepsy-aka-tle).
I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have learned to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their brains.
If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it ain't supernatural.
Nobody says religious feeling is supernatural.
Religious belief is belief in the supernatural. If something exists, it is natural. There is no supernatural.
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2020-05-17 16:55:02 UTC
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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of their strong
religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of religiosity and the presence of a god can be invoked by stimulating a person's temporal lobe (https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lobe-stimulation/). Some epileptics have religious experiences pre- and post-seizure (https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lobe-epilepsy-aka-tle).
I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have learned to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their brains.
If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it ain't supernatural.
Nobody says religious feeling is supernatural.
Religious belief is belief in the supernatural. If something exists, it is natural. There is no supernatural.
how can you talk about god and remain in the natural
michellemalkingmail.com
2020-05-17 19:47:31 UTC
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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of their strong
religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of religiosity and the presence of a god can be invoked by stimulating a person's temporal lobe (https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lobe-stimulation/). Some epileptics have religious experiences pre- and post-seizure (https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lobe-epilepsy-aka-tle).
I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have learned to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their brains.
If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it ain't supernatural.
Nobody says religious feeling is supernatural.
Religious belief is belief in the supernatural. If something exists, it is natural. There is no supernatural.
how can you talk about god and remain in the natural
You don't have to believe in something to merely discuss something that others believe in. Ever hear of the word fiction?
Ivan The Terrible
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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of their strong
religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of religiosity and the presence of a god can be invoked by stimulating a person's temporal lobe (https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lobe-stimulation/). Some epileptics have religious experiences pre- and post-seizure (https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lobe-epilepsy-aka-tle).
I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have learned to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their brains.
If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it ain't supernatural.
Nobody says religious feeling is supernatural.
Religious belief is belief in the supernatural. If something exists, it is natural. There is no supernatural.
WRONG

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernatural
Ivan The Terrible
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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of their strong
religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of religiosity and the presence of a god can be invoked by stimulating a person's temporal lobe (https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lobe-stimulation/). Some epileptics have religious experiences pre- and post-seizure (https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lobe-epilepsy-aka-tle).
I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have learned to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their brains.
If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it ain't supernatural.
Nobody says religious feeling is supernatural.
"The supernatural are the entities, places and events that are supposed to fall outside of the scope of scientific understanding of the laws of nature but nevertheless are argued by believers to exist. Wikipedia"
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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of their
stro
ng
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religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of
religiosity a
nd the presence of a god can be invoked by stimulating a person's
temporal lobe
(https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lobe-
stimulation/). Some epileptics have religious experiences pre- and
post-seizure
(https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lobe-
epilepsy-aka-tle).
Post by Ivan The Terrible
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I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have
learne
d to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their
brains.
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If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it ain't
supernatura
l.
Post by Ivan The Terrible
Nobody says religious feeling is supernatural.
"The supernatural are the entities, places and events that are
supposed to fall outside of the scope of scientific understanding of
the laws of nature but nevertheless are argued by believers to exist.
Wikipedia"
Bingo.

Religious beliefs sre by definition supernatural.




supernatural:

of, pertaining to, characteristic of, or
attributed to God or a deity.
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/supernatural?s=t
Ivan The Terrible
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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of their
stro
ng
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religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of
religiosity a
nd the presence of a god can be invoked by stimulating a person's
temporal lobe
(https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lobe-
stimulation/). Some epileptics have religious experiences pre- and
post-seizure
(https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lobe-
epilepsy-aka-tle).
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I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have
learne
d to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their
brains.
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If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it ain't
supernatura
l.
Post by Ivan The Terrible
Nobody says religious feeling is supernatural.
"The supernatural are the entities, places and events that are
supposed to fall outside of the scope of scientific understanding of
the laws of nature but nevertheless are argued by believers to exist.
Wikipedia"
Bingo.
Religious beliefs sre by definition supernatural.
WRONG. The beliefs are natural. You don't read very well.
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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of their
stro
ng
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religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of
religiosity a
nd the presence of a god can be invoked by stimulating a person's
temporal lobe
(https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lobe-
stimulation/). Some epileptics have religious experiences pre- and
post-seizure
(https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lobe-
epilepsy-aka-tle).
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I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have
learne
d to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their
brains.
Post by Ivan The Terrible
Post by SkyEyes
If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it ain't
supernatura
l.
Post by Ivan The Terrible
Nobody says religious feeling is supernatural.
"The supernatural are the entities, places and events that are
supposed to fall outside of the scope of scientific understanding of
the laws of nature but nevertheless are argued by believers to exist.
Wikipedia"
Bingo.
Religious beliefs sre by definition supernatural.
WRONG. The beliefs are natural. You don't read very well.
Of course. The beliefs exist. But, if what the beliefs are about don't exist,
that isn't natural.
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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of
their stro
ng
Post by Ivan The Terrible
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religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of
religiosity a
nd the presence of a god can be invoked by stimulating a person's
temporal lobe
(https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lo
be- stimulation/). Some epileptics have religious experiences pre-
and post-seizure
(https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lo
be- epilepsy-aka-tle).
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I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have
learne
d to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their
brains.
Post by Ivan The Terrible
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If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it ain't
supernatura
l.
Post by Ivan The Terrible
Nobody says religious feeling is supernatural.
"The supernatural are the entities, places and events that are
supposed to fall outside of the scope of scientific understanding
of the laws of nature but nevertheless are argued by believers to
exist. Wikipedia"
Bingo.
Religious beliefs sre by definition supernatural.
WRONG. The beliefs are natural. You don't read very well.
Here is the definition you deleted.


supernatural:

of, pertaining to, characteristic of, or
attributed to God or a deity.
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/supernatural?s=t
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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of
their stro
ng
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religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of
religiosity a
nd the presence of a god can be invoked by stimulating a person's
temporal lobe
(https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lo
be- stimulation/). Some epileptics have religious experiences pre-
and post-seizure
(https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lo
be- epilepsy-aka-tle).
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I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have
learne
d to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their
brains.
Post by Ivan The Terrible
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If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it ain't
supernatura
l.
Post by Ivan The Terrible
Nobody says religious feeling is supernatural.
"The supernatural are the entities, places and events that are
supposed to fall outside of the scope of scientific understanding
of the laws of nature but nevertheless are argued by believers to
exist. Wikipedia"
Bingo.
Religious beliefs sre by definition supernatural.
WRONG. The beliefs are natural. You don't read very well.
Here is the definition you deleted.
of, pertaining to, characteristic of, or
attributed to God or a deity.
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/supernatural?s=t
Human beliefs are natural. We all see and have them and doctors can map them in our brains. We can have human beliefs about supernatural things, but that is different.
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Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of
their stro
ng
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religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of
religiosity a
nd the presence of a god can be invoked by stimulating a person's
temporal lobe
(https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lo
be- stimulation/). Some epileptics have religious experiences pre-
and post-seizure
(https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lo
be- epilepsy-aka-tle).
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I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have
learne
d to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their
brains.
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If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it ain't
supernatura
l.
Post by Ivan The Terrible
Nobody says religious feeling is supernatural.
"The supernatural are the entities, places and events that are
supposed to fall outside of the scope of scientific understanding
of the laws of nature but nevertheless are argued by believers to
exist. Wikipedia"
Bingo.
Religious beliefs sre by definition supernatural.
WRONG. The beliefs are natural. You don't read very well.
Here is the definition you deleted.
of, pertaining to, characteristic of, or
attributed to God or a deity.
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/supernatural?s=t
Human beliefs are natural. We all see and have them and doctors can map them in our brains. We can have human beliefs about supernatural things, but that is different.
What's different is that you have no evidence to back your belief in supernatural woo-woo.
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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of their strong
religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of religiosity and the presence of a god can be invoked by stimulating a person's temporal lobe (https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lobe-stimulation/). Some epileptics have religious experiences pre- and post-seizure (https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lobe-epilepsy-aka-tle).
I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have learned to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their brains.
If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it ain't supernatural.
Nobody says religious feeling is supernatural.
"The supernatural are the entities, places and events that are supposed to fall outside of the scope of scientific understanding of the laws of nature but nevertheless are argued by believers to exist. Wikipedia"
Meaning that they have no proof of existence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernatural

As usual, ArtieJoe didn't make it past the fist paragraph.
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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of their strong
religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of religiosity and the presence of a god can be invoked by stimulating a person's temporal lobe (https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lobe-stimulation/). Some epileptics have religious experiences pre- and post-seizure (https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lobe-epilepsy-aka-tle).
I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have learned to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their brains.
If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it ain't supernatural.
Nobody says religious feeling is supernatural.
"The supernatural are the entities, places and events that are supposed to fall outside of the scope of scientific understanding of the laws of nature but nevertheless are argued by believers to exist. Wikipedia"
And there is nothing the wiki can provide to show the truth of the claims from theistic believers....
Kurt Nicklas
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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of their strong
religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of religiosity and the presence of a god can be invoked by stimulating a person's temporal lobe (https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lobe-stimulation/). Some epileptics have religious experiences pre- and post-seizure (https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lobe-epilepsy-aka-tle).
I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have learned to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their brains.
If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it ain't supernatural.
So religious feeling is natural to human beings.

Thanks for proving it.
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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of their strong
religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of religiosity and the presence of a god can be invoked by stimulating a person's temporal lobe (https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lobe-stimulation/). Some epileptics have religious experiences pre- and post-seizure (https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lobe-epilepsy-aka-tle).
I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have learned to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their brains.
If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it ain't supernatural.
So religious feeling is natural to human beings.
Thanks for proving it.
The brain will create endorphins to deal with pain, nature's
own little opiod-like chemicals. Painkillers discovered in nature
or created in the lab will have very strong effects, up to and
including addiction.

Because something is natural, or can be created out of natural
components, doesn't mean that it necessarily proper to exist in
a human body. That religion is a mental construct that can affect
brain chemistry, doesn't mean that it is good for us, anymore than
taking morphine or other opiates recreationally is.

Meditation can create some interesting brain chemistry, regardless
of whether one has a theistic or non-theistic impulse to try that.

[quote]

The effort to reconcile science and religion is almost always made, not
by theologians, but by scientists unable to shake off altogether the
piety absorbed with their mother's milk.

- H L Mencken {Minority Report (232) } †

{also}

For centuries, theologians have been explaining the unknowable in terms
of the-not-worth-knowing.

— H. L. Mencken {A Book of Burlesques} *

[/quote]



https://books.google.com/books?id=ZVD1AAAAQBAJ&pg=PA248&lpg=PA248&dq=%22minority+report%22+effort+reconcile+science+religion&source=bl&ots=O839EPXMRk&sig=ACfU3U0OOL4W8hzzx6usRYtpzN6iAD7mEQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiu34q7xLvpAhWtlHIEHU5CC1gQ6AEwAnoECAgQAQ#v=onepage&q=%22minority%20report%22%20effort%20reconcile%20science%20religion&f=false

*

https://www.google.com/books/edition/A_Book_of_Burlesques/NM4fAQAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=mencken+burlesques+theology&pg=PA209&printsec=frontcover


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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of their strong
religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of religiosity and the presence of a god can be invoked by stimulating a person's temporal lobe (https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lobe-stimulation/). Some epileptics have religious experiences pre- and post-seizure (https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lobe-epilepsy-aka-tle).
I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have learned to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their brains.
If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it ain't supernatural.
So religious feeling is natural to human beings.
Thanks for proving it.
The brain will create endorphins to deal with pain, nature's
own little opiod-like chemicals. Painkillers discovered in nature
or created in the lab will have very strong effects, up to and
including addiction.
Because something is natural, or can be created out of natural
components, doesn't mean that it necessarily proper to exist in
a human body. That atheism is a mental construct that can affect
brain chemistry, doesn't mean that it is good for us, anymore than
taking morphine or other opiates recreationally is.
Meditation can create some interesting brain chemistry, regardless
of whether one has a theistic or non-theistic impulse to try that.
Fixed it for ya.
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Because something is natural, or can be created out of natural
components, doesn't mean that it necessarily proper to exist in
a human body. That /a/t/h/e/i/s/m/ religion is a mental construct
that can affect brain chemistry, doesn't mean that it is good for
us, anymore than taking morphine or other opiates recreationally is.
Meditation can create some interesting brain chemistry, regardless
of whether one has a theistic or non-theistic impulse to try that.
Fixed it for ya.
Curdles considers vandalism "fixing things?"

A mere IKYABWAI post, at that.

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Ivan The Terrible
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Because something is natural, or can be created out of natural
components, doesn't mean that it necessarily proper to exist in
a human body. That /a/t/h/e/i/s/m/ religion is a mental construct
that can affect brain chemistry, doesn't mean that it is good for
us, anymore than taking morphine or other opiates recreationally is.
Meditation can create some interesting brain chemistry, regardless
of whether one has a theistic or non-theistic impulse to try that.
Fixed it for ya.
Curdles considers vandalism "fixing things?"
A mere IKYABWAI post, at that.
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Vandalism? Correcting your distortions is the right thing to do.
Yap Honghor
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No, say most psychiatrists
I am certainly in agreement that religious faith is a very visible kind of mental illness!!!!

The neurons in the mind of a believer have been corrupted to such an extend that they cannot function properly in a sane world, much like using logic and reason to deal with a situation!
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