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Is Religious Faith A Mental Illness?
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Ivan The Terrible
2020-05-17 00:18:29 UTC
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No, say most psychiatrists
Cloud Hobbit
2020-05-17 02:13:44 UTC
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Maybe not.

It is for sure stupid to claim amything good about faith.

Basing one's code of conduct on the basis of what an unproven God says is not the way to enlightenment.
Ivan The Terrible
2020-05-17 02:48:19 UTC
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Maybe not.
It is for sure stupid to claim amything good about faith.
Basing one's code of conduct on the basis of what an unproven God says is not the way to enlightenment.
Compulsive lying is a sign of mental illness.
Cloud Hobbit
2020-05-17 09:26:08 UTC
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Compulsive lying is a sign of mental illness.
You prove that regularly.😷
Tim
2020-05-17 09:47:21 UTC
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Maybe not.
It is for sure stupid to claim amything good about faith.
Basing one's code of conduct on the basis of what an unproven God says is not the way to enlightenment.
Compulsive lying is a sign of mental illness.
We know, that's why people think you suffer from mental illness:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.atheism/02YR6DG8VRY/3kngTWpUw2IJ

"At least I had the balls to defend my country, not being a selfish coward like you."

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.atheism/aod7Q3zB-b4/nYrs2c3fGWgJ

"I attended Law school at the University of Illinois in Champaign. You
can check their records if you don't believe me.I also practiced
criminal law as a prosecutor in the Navy for 4 years."


https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.atheism/ldfjp4f_aRs/0Y_KyW-5DQAJ

"You really think the USA will deport a man who fought for her in the Navy for 6 years? YOU ARE ONE SILLY MOTHERFUCKER"

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.atheism/ldfjp4f_aRs/Fyki5R2fCwAJ

"I guess you are too stupid to know that North Vietnam didn't have much of a navy. That's why I missed combat."


http://tinyurl.com/oovvzzc

"I joined the Navy Reserve at first to avoid going to Vietnam."
michellemalkingmail.com
2020-05-17 16:38:37 UTC
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Maybe not.
It is for sure stupid to claim amything good about faith.
Basing one's code of conduct on the basis of what an unproven God says is not the way to enlightenment.
Compulsive lying is a sign of mental illness.
Then, you should stop lying, ArtieJoe.
Don Martin
2020-05-17 18:13:49 UTC
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Maybe not.
It is for sure stupid to claim amything good about faith.
Basing one's code of conduct on the basis of what an unproven God says is not the way to enlightenment.
Compulsive lying is a sign of mental illness.
Then, you should stop lying, ArtieJoe.
First, a cure. Then, veracity.
--
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
Je pense, donc je suis Charlie.
michellemalkingmail.com
2020-05-17 19:57:13 UTC
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Maybe not.
It is for sure stupid to claim amything good about faith.
Basing one's code of conduct on the basis of what an unproven God says is not the way to enlightenment.
Compulsive lying is a sign of mental illness.
Then, you should stop lying, ArtieJoe.
First, a cure. Then, veracity.
I don't think there is a cure for his kind of narcissism. It usually
starts showing up when a person is in their early twenties but it
can show up earlier.
Don Martin
2020-05-18 11:37:39 UTC
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Maybe not.
It is for sure stupid to claim amything good about faith.
Basing one's code of conduct on the basis of what an unproven God says is not the way to enlightenment.
Compulsive lying is a sign of mental illness.
Then, you should stop lying, ArtieJoe.
First, a cure. Then, veracity.
I don't think there is a cure for his kind of narcissism. It usually
starts showing up when a person is in their early twenties but it
can show up earlier.
Given the reflexive nature of his lies, and the paucity of their
content, one suspects that this behavior is so ingrained by the
decades as to be indelible.
--
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
Je pense, donc je suis Charlie.
Ivan The Terrible
2020-05-18 13:34:51 UTC
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Maybe not.
It is for sure stupid to claim amything good about faith.
Basing one's code of conduct on the basis of what an unproven God says is not the way to enlightenment.
Compulsive lying is a sign of mental illness.
Then, you should stop lying, ArtieJoe.
First, a cure. Then, veracity.
I don't think there is a cure for his kind of narcissism. It usually
starts showing up when a person is in their early twenties but it
can show up earlier.
Given the reflexive nature of his lies, and the paucity of their
content, one suspects that this behavior is so ingrained by the
decades as to be indelible.
How would you know? You claim you killfiled me, asshole.
michellemalkingmail.com
2020-05-18 16:37:22 UTC
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Maybe not.
It is for sure stupid to claim amything good about faith.
Basing one's code of conduct on the basis of what an unproven God says is not the way to enlightenment.
Compulsive lying is a sign of mental illness.
Then, you should stop lying, ArtieJoe.
First, a cure. Then, veracity.
I don't think there is a cure for his kind of narcissism. It usually
starts showing up when a person is in their early twenties but it
can show up earlier.
Given the reflexive nature of his lies, and the paucity of their
content, one suspects that this behavior is so ingrained by the
decades as to be indelible.
Definitely. I seriously believe that some people only respond to him
out of pity. They may despise him, but they give him the attention
the poor sot needs.
Ivan The Terrible
2020-05-18 16:39:57 UTC
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Maybe not.
It is for sure stupid to claim amything good about faith.
Basing one's code of conduct on the basis of what an unproven God says is not the way to enlightenment.
Compulsive lying is a sign of mental illness.
Then, you should stop lying, ArtieJoe.
First, a cure. Then, veracity.
I don't think there is a cure for his kind of narcissism. It usually
starts showing up when a person is in their early twenties but it
can show up earlier.
Given the reflexive nature of his lies, and the paucity of their
content, one suspects that this behavior is so ingrained by the
decades as to be indelible.
Definitely. I seriously believe that some people only respond to him
out of pity. They may despise him, but they give him the attention
the poor sot needs.
Hardly, you filthy whore.
Tim
2020-05-18 16:48:54 UTC
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Maybe not.
It is for sure stupid to claim amything good about faith.
Basing one's code of conduct on the basis of what an unproven God says is not the way to enlightenment.
Compulsive lying is a sign of mental illness.
Then, you should stop lying, ArtieJoe.
First, a cure. Then, veracity.
I don't think there is a cure for his kind of narcissism. It usually
starts showing up when a person is in their early twenties but it
can show up earlier.
Given the reflexive nature of his lies, and the paucity of their
content, one suspects that this behavior is so ingrained by the
decades as to be indelible.
Definitely. I seriously believe that some people only respond to him
out of pity. They may despise him, but they give him the attention
the poor sot needs.
Hardly, you filthy whore.
Tandy the foul mouthed hypocrite strikes again.

"GO FUCK YOUR MOTHER", Art Tandy - scumbag.
Christopher A. Lee
2020-05-18 16:43:47 UTC
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Maybe not.
It is for sure stupid to claim amything good about faith.
Basing one's code of conduct on the basis of what an unproven God says is not the way to enlightenment.
Compulsive lying is a sign of mental illness.
Then, you should stop lying, ArtieJoe.
First, a cure. Then, veracity.
I don't think there is a cure for his kind of narcissism. It usually
starts showing up when a person is in their early twenties but it
can show up earlier.
Given the reflexive nature of his lies, and the paucity of their
content, one suspects that this behavior is so ingrained by the
decades as to be indelible.
Definitely. I seriously believe that some people only respond to him
out of pity. They may despise him, but they give him the attention
the poor sot needs.
He won't get the care he needs, until he goes completely off the
rails.
Ivan The Terrible
2020-05-18 16:47:07 UTC
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Maybe not.
It is for sure stupid to claim amything good about faith.
Basing one's code of conduct on the basis of what an unproven God says is not the way to enlightenment.
Compulsive lying is a sign of mental illness.
Then, you should stop lying, ArtieJoe.
First, a cure. Then, veracity.
I don't think there is a cure for his kind of narcissism. It usually
starts showing up when a person is in their early twenties but it
can show up earlier.
Given the reflexive nature of his lies, and the paucity of their
content, one suspects that this behavior is so ingrained by the
decades as to be indelible.
Definitely. I seriously believe that some people only respond to him
out of pity. They may despise him, but they give him the attention
the poor sot needs.
He won't get the care he needs, until he goes completely off the
rails.
What I need is for you to die, British Scum.
Tim
2020-05-18 16:50:58 UTC
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Maybe not.
It is for sure stupid to claim amything good about faith.
Basing one's code of conduct on the basis of what an unproven God says is not the way to enlightenment.
Compulsive lying is a sign of mental illness.
Then, you should stop lying, ArtieJoe.
First, a cure. Then, veracity.
I don't think there is a cure for his kind of narcissism. It usually
starts showing up when a person is in their early twenties but it
can show up earlier.
Given the reflexive nature of his lies, and the paucity of their
content, one suspects that this behavior is so ingrained by the
decades as to be indelible.
Definitely. I seriously believe that some people only respond to him
out of pity. They may despise him, but they give him the attention
the poor sot needs.
He won't get the care he needs, until he goes completely off the
rails.
What I need is for you to die, British Scum.
You need a good bitch slapping, bitch.
Ivan The Terrible
2020-05-18 16:52:49 UTC
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On Sun, 17 May 2020 09:38:37 -0700 (PDT), "michellemalkingmail.com"
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Post by Cloud Hobbit
Maybe not.
It is for sure stupid to claim amything good about faith.
Basing one's code of conduct on the basis of what an unproven God says is not the way to enlightenment.
Compulsive lying is a sign of mental illness.
Then, you should stop lying, ArtieJoe.
First, a cure. Then, veracity.
I don't think there is a cure for his kind of narcissism. It usually
starts showing up when a person is in their early twenties but it
can show up earlier.
Given the reflexive nature of his lies, and the paucity of their
content, one suspects that this behavior is so ingrained by the
decades as to be indelible.
Definitely. I seriously believe that some people only respond to him
out of pity. They may despise him, but they give him the attention
the poor sot needs.
He won't get the care he needs, until he goes completely off the
rails.
What I need is for you to die, British Scum.
You need a good bitch slapping, bitch.
You don't have the guts.
Tim
2020-05-18 23:29:23 UTC
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On Sun, 17 May 2020 09:38:37 -0700 (PDT), "michellemalkingmail.com"
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Post by Cloud Hobbit
Maybe not.
It is for sure stupid to claim amything good about faith.
Basing one's code of conduct on the basis of what an unproven God says is not the way to enlightenment.
Compulsive lying is a sign of mental illness.
Then, you should stop lying, ArtieJoe.
First, a cure. Then, veracity.
I don't think there is a cure for his kind of narcissism. It usually
starts showing up when a person is in their early twenties but it
can show up earlier.
Given the reflexive nature of his lies, and the paucity of their
content, one suspects that this behavior is so ingrained by the
decades as to be indelible.
Definitely. I seriously believe that some people only respond to him
out of pity. They may despise him, but they give him the attention
the poor sot needs.
He won't get the care he needs, until he goes completely off the
rails.
What I need is for you to die, British Scum.
You need a good bitch slapping, bitch.
You don't have the guts.
http://tinyurl.com/oovvzzc

"I joined the Navy Reserve at first to avoid going to Vietnam."


Talk about not having any guts.
Ivan The Terrible
2020-05-18 23:44:33 UTC
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Maybe not.
It is for sure stupid to claim amything good about faith.
Basing one's code of conduct on the basis of what an unproven God says is not the way to enlightenment.
Compulsive lying is a sign of mental illness.
Then, you should stop lying, ArtieJoe.
First, a cure. Then, veracity.
I don't think there is a cure for his kind of narcissism. It usually
starts showing up when a person is in their early twenties but it
can show up earlier.
Given the reflexive nature of his lies, and the paucity of their
content, one suspects that this behavior is so ingrained by the
decades as to be indelible.
Definitely. I seriously believe that some people only respond to him
out of pity. They may despise him, but they give him the attention
the poor sot needs.
He won't get the care he needs, until he goes completely off the
rails.
What I need is for you to die, British Scum.
You need a good bitch slapping, bitch.
You don't have the guts.
http://tinyurl.com/oovvzzc
"I joined the Navy Reserve at first to avoid going to Vietnam."
YOU SAID YOU'D SLAP ME.SAY IT TO MY FACE, PUNK.
Yap Honghor
2020-05-19 00:41:59 UTC
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Maybe not.
It is for sure stupid to claim amything good about faith.
Basing one's code of conduct on the basis of what an unproven God says is not the way to enlightenment.
Compulsive lying is a sign of mental illness.
Then, you should stop lying, ArtieJoe.
First, a cure. Then, veracity.
I don't think there is a cure for his kind of narcissism. It usually
starts showing up when a person is in their early twenties but it
can show up earlier.
Given the reflexive nature of his lies, and the paucity of their
content, one suspects that this behavior is so ingrained by the
decades as to be indelible.
Definitely. I seriously believe that some people only respond to him
out of pity. They may despise him, but they give him the attention
the poor sot needs.
He won't get the care he needs, until he goes completely off the
rails.
What I need is for you to die, British Scum.
You need a good bitch slapping, bitch.
You don't have the guts.
http://tinyurl.com/oovvzzc
"I joined the Navy Reserve at first to avoid going to Vietnam."
YOU SAID YOU'D SLAP ME.SAY IT TO MY FACE, PUNK.
What are you going to do if he does that?
Tim
2020-05-19 09:22:00 UTC
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Maybe not.
It is for sure stupid to claim amything good about faith.
Basing one's code of conduct on the basis of what an unproven God says is not the way to enlightenment.
Compulsive lying is a sign of mental illness.
Then, you should stop lying, ArtieJoe.
First, a cure. Then, veracity.
I don't think there is a cure for his kind of narcissism. It usually
starts showing up when a person is in their early twenties but it
can show up earlier.
Given the reflexive nature of his lies, and the paucity of their
content, one suspects that this behavior is so ingrained by the
decades as to be indelible.
Definitely. I seriously believe that some people only respond to him
out of pity. They may despise him, but they give him the attention
the poor sot needs.
He won't get the care he needs, until he goes completely off the
rails.
What I need is for you to die, British Scum.
You need a good bitch slapping, bitch.
You don't have the guts.
http://tinyurl.com/oovvzzc
"I joined the Navy Reserve at first to avoid going to Vietnam."
YOU SAID YOU'D SLAP ME.SAY IT TO MY FACE, PUNK.
What are you going to do if he does that?
He'll kvetch like a bitch either way.
Ivan The Terrible
2020-05-19 12:54:39 UTC
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Maybe not.
It is for sure stupid to claim amything good about faith.
Basing one's code of conduct on the basis of what an unproven God says is not the way to enlightenment.
Compulsive lying is a sign of mental illness.
Then, you should stop lying, ArtieJoe.
First, a cure. Then, veracity.
I don't think there is a cure for his kind of narcissism. It usually
starts showing up when a person is in their early twenties but it
can show up earlier.
Given the reflexive nature of his lies, and the paucity of their
content, one suspects that this behavior is so ingrained by the
decades as to be indelible.
Definitely. I seriously believe that some people only respond to him
out of pity. They may despise him, but they give him the attention
the poor sot needs.
He won't get the care he needs, until he goes completely off the
rails.
What I need is for you to die, British Scum.
You need a good bitch slapping, bitch.
You don't have the guts.
http://tinyurl.com/oovvzzc
"I joined the Navy Reserve at first to avoid going to Vietnam."
YOU SAID YOU'D SLAP ME.SAY IT TO MY FACE, PUNK.
What are you going to do if he does that?
He'll kvetch like a bitch either way.
WOW! YOU CAN REALLY TALK TOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tim
2020-05-19 19:37:47 UTC
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Maybe not.
It is for sure stupid to claim amything good about faith.
Basing one's code of conduct on the basis of what an unproven God says is not the way to enlightenment.
Compulsive lying is a sign of mental illness.
Then, you should stop lying, ArtieJoe.
First, a cure. Then, veracity.
I don't think there is a cure for his kind of narcissism. It usually
starts showing up when a person is in their early twenties but it
can show up earlier.
Given the reflexive nature of his lies, and the paucity of their
content, one suspects that this behavior is so ingrained by the
decades as to be indelible.
Definitely. I seriously believe that some people only respond to him
out of pity. They may despise him, but they give him the attention
the poor sot needs.
He won't get the care he needs, until he goes completely off the
rails.
What I need is for you to die, British Scum.
You need a good bitch slapping, bitch.
You don't have the guts.
http://tinyurl.com/oovvzzc
"I joined the Navy Reserve at first to avoid going to Vietnam."
YOU SAID YOU'D SLAP ME.SAY IT TO MY FACE, PUNK.
What are you going to do if he does that?
He'll kvetch like a bitch either way.
WOW! YOU CAN REALLY TALK TOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Even when you scream you come across as a complete candy ass, you cowardly little bitch.
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Maybe not.
It is for sure stupid to claim amything good about faith.
Basing one's code of conduct on the basis of what an unproven God says is not the way to enlightenment.
Compulsive lying is a sign of mental illness.
Then, you should stop lying, ArtieJoe.
First, a cure. Then, veracity.
I don't think there is a cure for his kind of narcissism. It usually
starts showing up when a person is in their early twenties but it
can show up earlier.
Given the reflexive nature of his lies, and the paucity of their
content, one suspects that this behavior is so ingrained by the
decades as to be indelible.
Definitely. I seriously believe that some people only respond to him
out of pity. They may despise him, but they give him the attention
the poor sot needs.
He won't get the care he needs, until he goes completely off the
rails.
What I need is for you to die, British Scum.
You need a good bitch slapping, bitch.
You don't have the guts.
http://tinyurl.com/oovvzzc
"I joined the Navy Reserve at first to avoid going to Vietnam."
YOU SAID YOU'D SLAP ME.SAY IT TO MY FACE, PUNK.
What are you going to do if he does that?
He'll kvetch like a bitch either way.
WOW! YOU CAN REALLY TALK TOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Even when you scream you come across as a complete candy ass, you cowardly little bitch.
WOW! YOU CAN REALLY TALK TOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yap Honghor
2020-05-20 00:26:55 UTC
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Maybe not.
It is for sure stupid to claim amything good about faith.
Basing one's code of conduct on the basis of what an unproven God says is not the way to enlightenment.
Compulsive lying is a sign of mental illness.
Then, you should stop lying, ArtieJoe.
First, a cure. Then, veracity.
I don't think there is a cure for his kind of narcissism. It usually
starts showing up when a person is in their early twenties but it
can show up earlier.
Given the reflexive nature of his lies, and the paucity of their
content, one suspects that this behavior is so ingrained by the
decades as to be indelible.
Definitely. I seriously believe that some people only respond to him
out of pity. They may despise him, but they give him the attention
the poor sot needs.
He won't get the care he needs, until he goes completely off the
rails.
What I need is for you to die, British Scum.
You need a good bitch slapping, bitch.
You don't have the guts.
http://tinyurl.com/oovvzzc
"I joined the Navy Reserve at first to avoid going to Vietnam."
YOU SAID YOU'D SLAP ME.SAY IT TO MY FACE, PUNK.
What are you going to do if he does that?
He'll kvetch like a bitch either way.
WOW! YOU CAN REALLY TALK TOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, he is much more tougher than you...don't let him meet you face to face!
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Maybe not.
It is for sure stupid to claim amything good about faith.
Basing one's code of conduct on the basis of what an unproven God says is not the way to enlightenment.
Compulsive lying is a sign of mental illness.
Then, you should stop lying, ArtieJoe.
First, a cure. Then, veracity.
I don't think there is a cure for his kind of narcissism. It usually
starts showing up when a person is in their early twenties but it
can show up earlier.
Given the reflexive nature of his lies, and the paucity of their
content, one suspects that this behavior is so ingrained by the
decades as to be indelible.
Definitely. I seriously believe that some people only respond to him
out of pity. They may despise him, but they give him the attention
the poor sot needs.
He won't get the care he needs, until he goes completely off the
rails.
What I need is for you to die, British Scum.
You need a good bitch slapping, bitch.
You don't have the guts.
http://tinyurl.com/oovvzzc
"I joined the Navy Reserve at first to avoid going to Vietnam."
YOU SAID YOU'D SLAP ME.SAY IT TO MY FACE, PUNK.
You can't read. I said you need a good bitch slapping. I've seen a picture of your face. You're fucking ugly, bitch.
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Maybe not.
It is for sure stupid to claim amything good about faith.
Basing one's code of conduct on the basis of what an unproven God says is not the way to enlightenment.
Compulsive lying is a sign of mental illness.
Then, you should stop lying, ArtieJoe.
First, a cure. Then, veracity.
I don't think there is a cure for his kind of narcissism. It usually
starts showing up when a person is in their early twenties but it
can show up earlier.
Given the reflexive nature of his lies, and the paucity of their
content, one suspects that this behavior is so ingrained by the
decades as to be indelible.
Definitely. I seriously believe that some people only respond to him
out of pity. They may despise him, but they give him the attention
the poor sot needs.
He won't get the care he needs, until he goes completely off the
rails.
And we're all behind him there!
--
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
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Maybe not.
It is for sure stupid to claim amything good about faith.
Basing one's code of conduct on the basis of what an unproven God says is not the way to enlightenment.
Compulsive lying is a sign of mental illness.
Then, you should stop lying, ArtieJoe.
First, a cure. Then, veracity.
I don't think there is a cure for his kind of narcissism. It usually
starts showing up when a person is in their early twenties but it
can show up earlier.
Given the reflexive nature of his lies, and the paucity of their
content, one suspects that this behavior is so ingrained by the
decades as to be indelible.
Definitely. I seriously believe that some people only respond to him
out of pity. They may despise him, but they give him the attention
the poor sot needs.
Out of pity? I doubt that. People respond to him in the expectation
that he will answer with bullshit even more laughable than that which
inspired their response. "Tis an odd kind of "pity."
--
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
Je pense, donc je suis Charlie.
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2020-05-18 20:41:09 UTC
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Maybe not.
It is for sure stupid to claim amything good about faith.
Basing one's code of conduct on the basis of what an unproven God says is not the way to enlightenment.
Love kicks the dog pooh out of enlightenment.
the dukester, American-American
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2020-05-17 05:28:39 UTC
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No, say most psychiatrists
...the guy who has a personal relationship with a giant, invisible
white rabbit is fucking nuts but the guy who has a personal
relationship with a giant, invisible sky daddy is "perfectly sane".
The joker who talks to an invisible god is only deemed sane because
it's socially acceptable to do so.


______________________________________________________________________

Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries,
the cruel and tortuous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness
with which more than half the Bible is filled, it would be more
consistent that we call it the word of a demon than the word of God.
It is a history of wickedness that has served to corrupt and
brutalize humankind.- Thomas Paine
______________________________________________________________________
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2020-05-17 08:02:42 UTC
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No, say most psychiatrists
...the guy who has a personal relationship with a giant, invisible
white rabbit is fucking nuts but the guy who has a personal
relationship with a giant, invisible sky daddy is "perfectly sane".
The joker who talks to an invisible god is only deemed sane because
it's socially acceptable to do so.
Belief in very powerful, even omnipotent beings that one
talks to and, if not receiving responses aloud, then "in
my heart" is Son-of-Sam behavior. When one slaps the name
of a ghod on the boojum, then it gets "grandfathered in"
and therapists are willing to ply along with the fiction,
even if they don't believe in it themselves.

The whole superstructure of theology was created, or
emerged from and evolved from the Greco-Roman philosophical
tradition. It was established as a way that people who
used reason to deal with the universe rationalized the
mythologies of first the pre-Christian religion of the
ancient world, and later, Christianity. Untrue nonsense
wrapped in logic and philosophical speculation can buttress
the woo-woo quite well enough that oner does not need to be
mad to believe it.

Centuries after the Renaissance and the Enlightenment,
rational people should have no excuse to be fooled any
longer.

--
Kevin R
a.a #2310
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2020-05-17 08:55:39 UTC
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No, say most psychiatrists
...the guy who has a personal relationship with a giant, invisible
white rabbit is fucking nuts but the guy who has a personal
relationship with a giant, invisible sky daddy is "perfectly sane".
The joker who talks to an invisible god is only deemed sane because
it's socially acceptable to do so.
Belief in very powerful, even omnipotent beings that one
talks to and, if not receiving responses aloud, then "in
my heart" is Son-of-Sam behavior. When one slaps the name
of a ghod on the boojum, then it gets "grandfathered in"
and therapists are willing to ply along with the fiction,
even if they don't believe in it themselves.
The whole superstructure of theology was created, or
emerged from and evolved from the Greco-Roman philosophical
tradition. It was established as a way that people who
used reason to deal with the universe rationalized the
mythologies of first the pre-Christian religion of the
ancient world, and later, Christianity. Untrue nonsense
wrapped in logic and philosophical speculation can buttress
the woo-woo quite well enough that oner does not need to be
mad to believe it.
That's a lie.

The origins of Judaism according to the current historical view, in contradistinction to the religious account as described in the text of the Hebrew Bible, lie in the Bronze Age amidst polytheistic ancient Semitic religions, specifically evolving out of Ancient Canaanite polytheism, then co-existing with Babylonian ...

Origins of Judaism - Wikipedia
Post by Kevrob
Centuries after the Renaissance and the Enlightenment,
rational people should have no excuse to be fooled any
longer.
Rational, you say?

How about these guys, all theists

Galileo
Newton
FDR
Eisenhower
Truman
MacArthur
Kennedy
Buckley


You were a Catholic and you actually think your religion came from Greek mythology? It came from Judaism, jackass. Our Torah is part of your bible.
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No, say most psychiatrists
...the guy who has a personal relationship with a giant, invisible
white rabbit is fucking nuts but the guy who has a personal
relationship with a giant, invisible sky daddy is "perfectly sane".
The joker who talks to an invisible god is only deemed sane because
it's socially acceptable to do so.
Belief in very powerful, even omnipotent beings that one
talks to and, if not receiving responses aloud, then "in
my heart" is Son-of-Sam behavior. When one slaps the name
of a ghod on the boojum, then it gets "grandfathered in"
and therapists are willing to ply along with the fiction,
even if they don't believe in it themselves.
The whole superstructure of theology was created, or
emerged from and evolved from the Greco-Roman philosophical
tradition. It was established as a way that people who
used reason to deal with the universe rationalized the
mythologies of first the pre-Christian religion of the
ancient world, and later, Christianity. Untrue nonsense
wrapped in logic and philosophical speculation can buttress
the woo-woo quite well enough that oner does not need to be
mad to believe it.
That's a lie.
The origins of Judaism according to the current historical view,
in contradistinction to the religious account as described in the
text of the Hebrew Bible, lie in the Bronze Age amidst polytheistic
ancient Semitic religions, specifically evolving out of Ancient
Canaanite polytheism, then co-existing with Babylonian ...
Origins of Judaism - Wikipedia
Some folks can't be bothered to post a link.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origins_of_Judaism
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Post by Kevrob
Centuries after the Renaissance and the Enlightenment,
rational people should have no excuse to be fooled any
longer.
Rational, you say?
How about these guys, all theists
Galileo
Newton
FDR
Eisenhower
Truman
MacArthur
Kennedy
Buckley
You were a Catholic and you actually think your religion came from Greek mythology? It came from Judaism, jackass. Our Torah is part of your bible.
I wrote "theology," not "religion," and only an ignoramus or a
mendacious asshole would conflate the underlying mythology with
the tortuous attempts to justify myth with reality.

As for your list of (in)famous believers, the politicians and
generals may have held authentic theistic views, but had they not,
and expressed that lack of faith to the electorate or their
commanders, they wouldn't have gotten far in their careers.

When I wrote "... pre-Christian religion of the ancient world.."
I was not specifically referencing Judaism, anyway. Much later
Judaism has the likes of Spinoza and Maimonides spinning their
own theological webs. In ancient times, there were "Hellenized
Jews," and that strain of Jewish thought survives in Christianity,
if not in Judaism.

[quote]

It is not true to say with Güdemann ("Monatsschrift," xlvii. 248)
that Hellenism had no appreciable influence upon the development of
Judaism; its influence was appreciable for many centuries; but it
was driven out of the Jewish camp by the national sentiment aroused
in the Maccabean and Bar Kokba revolts, and in forming the bridge
between Judaism and Christianity it lost whatever permanent influence
it might have possessed. Since that time, even in Egypt, the classical
home of Hellenism, rabbinical Jewish communities have flourished that
have borne no perceptible trace of the movement which made Alexandria great.

[/quote]

http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/7535-hellenism

If one wants to dismiss the existence of the Septuagint (the
Old Testament in Greek) compiled before the Common Era, that
would just be anti-historical thinking.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septuagint

Don't forget Gnosticism...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnosticism

..and the importation of Platonic thought into the Christian
and Gnostic traditions.

https://www.iep.utm.edu/neoplato/

Perhaps Philo never wrote?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philo

Is Tandy next going to tell us Judaism absorbed no Persian
ideas during the Babylonian captivity?

As a philosopher, theologian or historian, Tandy is a great
accountant.

--
Kevin R
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SkyEyes
2020-05-17 11:37:17 UTC
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No, say most psychiatrists
...the guy who has a personal relationship with a giant, invisible
white rabbit is fucking nuts but the guy who has a personal
relationship with a giant, invisible sky daddy is "perfectly sane".
The joker who talks to an invisible god is only deemed sane because
it's socially acceptable to do so.
Belief in very powerful, even omnipotent beings that one
talks to and, if not receiving responses aloud, then "in
my heart" is Son-of-Sam behavior. When one slaps the name
of a ghod on the boojum, then it gets "grandfathered in"
and therapists are willing to ply along with the fiction,
even if they don't believe in it themselves.
The whole superstructure of theology was created, or
emerged from and evolved from the Greco-Roman philosophical
tradition. It was established as a way that people who
used reason to deal with the universe rationalized the
mythologies of first the pre-Christian religion of the
ancient world, and later, Christianity. Untrue nonsense
wrapped in logic and philosophical speculation can buttress
the woo-woo quite well enough that oner does not need to be
mad to believe it.
Centuries after the Renaissance and the Enlightenment,
rational people should have no excuse to be fooled any
longer.
Indeed. Religious belief is superstition, nothing more.

Brenda Nelson, A.A. #34
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Ivan The Terrible
2020-05-17 08:46:19 UTC
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No, say most psychiatrists
...the guy who has a personal relationship with a giant, invisible
white rabbit is fucking nuts but the guy who has a personal
relationship with a giant, invisible sky daddy is "perfectly sane".
The joker who talks to an invisible god is only deemed sane because
it's socially acceptable to do so.
The word "sanity" is not medical, but legal. It describes the mind of a violent criminal in court when his punishment is to be determined. It's amazing how you twist and distort the language.

LOL! The difference is huge. The existence of God is described by the Bible and numerous other religious texts written over centuries. There is no such evidence for the rabbit. Religion is not delusion because it is faith, not fact. A delusion is the seeing of things which are not there. Honest theists
know and admit that their religious beliefs are things they hope for, not things which actually exist.
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No, say most psychiatrists
...the guy who has a personal relationship with a giant, invisible
white rabbit is fucking nuts but the guy who has a personal
relationship with a giant, invisible sky daddy is "perfectly sane".
The joker who talks to an invisible god is only deemed sane because
it's socially acceptable to do so.
The word "sanity" is not medical, but legal. It describes the mind of a violent criminal in court when his punishment is to be determined. It's amazing how you twist and distort the language.
Delusion is also the believing in things that can't be proven to exist.
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LOL! The difference is huge. The existence of God is described by the Bible and numerous other religious texts written over centuries. There is no such evidence for the rabbit. Religion is not delusion because it is faith, not fact. A delusion is the seeing of things which are not there. Honest theists
know and admit that their religious beliefs are things they hope for, not things which actually exist.
Your godthing is the imaginary rabbit. You worship Harvey!
SkyEyes
2020-05-17 11:35:16 UTC
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No, say most psychiatrists
...the guy who has a personal relationship with a giant, invisible
white rabbit is fucking nuts but the guy who has a personal
relationship with a giant, invisible sky daddy is "perfectly sane".
The joker who talks to an invisible god is only deemed sane because
it's socially acceptable to do so.
Exactly.

Brenda Nelson, A.A. #34
BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
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Andrew W
2020-05-17 08:33:48 UTC
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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of their strong
religious beliefs.
--
http://members.optusnet.com.au/ajwerner/

The golden rule with food - if it smells strange from the fridge then throw
it in the bin. With Christianity, if it sounds strange and it's from the
Bible then you must embrace it as the word of God.

A question to all Christians: Was the Bible inspired or dictated? Because if
it was just inspired then it can't be called God's word.

http://www.rumormillnews.com -- The best alternative news site.
Yap Honghor
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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of their strong
religious beliefs.
And those "some people" are predominately believing fools in this world!!!!
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--
http://members.optusnet.com.au/ajwerner/
The golden rule with food - if it smells strange from the fridge then throw
it in the bin. With Christianity, if it sounds strange and it's from the
Bible then you must embrace it as the word of God.
A question to all Christians: Was the Bible inspired or dictated? Because if
it was just inspired then it can't be called God's word.
http://www.rumormillnews.com -- The best alternative news site.
SkyEyes
2020-05-17 11:56:45 UTC
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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of their strong
religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of religiosity and the presence of a god can be invoked by stimulating a person's temporal lobe (https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lobe-stimulation/). Some epileptics have religious experiences pre- and post-seizure (https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lobe-epilepsy-aka-tle).

I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have learned to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their brains.

If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it ain't supernatural.

Brenda Nelson, A.A. #34
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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of their strong
religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of religiosity and the presence of a god can be invoked by stimulating a person's temporal lobe (https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lobe-stimulation/). Some epileptics have religious experiences pre- and post-seizure (https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lobe-epilepsy-aka-tle).
I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have learned to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their brains.
If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it ain't supernatural.
Nobody says religious feeling is supernatural.
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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of their strong
religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of religiosity
and
the presence of a god can be invoked by stimulating a person's
temporal lobe
(https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lobe
-stimulation/). Some epileptics have religious experiences pre- and
post-seizure
(https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lobe
-epilepsy-aka-tle).
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I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have
learned
to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their
brains.
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If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it ain't
supernatural.
Nobody says religious feeling is supernatural.
supernatural:

of, pertaining to, characteristic of, or
attributed to God or a deity.
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/supernatural?s=t
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2020-05-17 16:48:37 UTC
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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of their strong
religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of religiosity and the presence of a god can be invoked by stimulating a person's temporal lobe (https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lobe-stimulation/). Some epileptics have religious experiences pre- and post-seizure (https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lobe-epilepsy-aka-tle).
I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have learned to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their brains.
If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it ain't supernatural.
Nobody says religious feeling is supernatural.
Religious belief is belief in the supernatural. If something exists, it is natural. There is no supernatural.
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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of their strong
religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of religiosity and the presence of a god can be invoked by stimulating a person's temporal lobe (https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lobe-stimulation/). Some epileptics have religious experiences pre- and post-seizure (https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lobe-epilepsy-aka-tle).
I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have learned to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their brains.
If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it ain't supernatural.
Nobody says religious feeling is supernatural.
Religious belief is belief in the supernatural. If something exists, it is natural. There is no supernatural.
how can you talk about god and remain in the natural
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2020-05-17 19:47:31 UTC
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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of their strong
religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of religiosity and the presence of a god can be invoked by stimulating a person's temporal lobe (https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lobe-stimulation/). Some epileptics have religious experiences pre- and post-seizure (https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lobe-epilepsy-aka-tle).
I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have learned to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their brains.
If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it ain't supernatural.
Nobody says religious feeling is supernatural.
Religious belief is belief in the supernatural. If something exists, it is natural. There is no supernatural.
how can you talk about god and remain in the natural
You don't have to believe in something to merely discuss something that others believe in. Ever hear of the word fiction?
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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of their strong
religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of religiosity and the presence of a god can be invoked by stimulating a person's temporal lobe (https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lobe-stimulation/). Some epileptics have religious experiences pre- and post-seizure (https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lobe-epilepsy-aka-tle).
I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have learned to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their brains.
If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it ain't supernatural.
Nobody says religious feeling is supernatural.
Religious belief is belief in the supernatural. If something exists, it is natural. There is no supernatural.
how can you talk about god and remain in the natural
You don't have to believe in something to merely discuss something that others believe in. Ever hear of the word fiction?
That's the problem. Just as the truth is neither physical nor fictional,
God is neither physical nor fictional either. In addition to the
physical existence and the imaginary existence in your mind, there is
also a spiritual existence that is above and beyond the perception of
your intellectual mind. When you limit yourself to your small
intellectual mind, you fail to understand and comprehend the greater
spiritual world of existence where justice and love can actually prevail.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
Christ!
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2020-05-19 11:22:41 UTC
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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of their strong
religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of religiosity and the presence of a god can be invoked by stimulating a person's temporal lobe (https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lobe-stimulation/). Some epileptics have religious experiences pre- and post-seizure (https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lobe-epilepsy-aka-tle).
I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have learned to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their brains.
If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it ain't supernatural.
Nobody says religious feeling is supernatural.
Religious belief is belief in the supernatural. If something exists, it is natural. There is no supernatural.
how can you talk about god and remain in the natural
You don't have to believe in something to merely discuss something that others believe in. Ever hear of the word fiction?
That's the problem. Just as the truth is neither physical nor fictional,
You need to get over your fixation on "truth" and develop an interest in FACT. As I have pointed out in other threads, truth is malleable; it's what any given person feels it is. Fact, on the other hand, is immutable, and doesn't vary from person to person and sect to sect. It can be observed and quantified and built upon. It is *useful*.
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God is neither physical nor fictional either. In addition to the
physical existence and the imaginary existence in your mind, there is
also a spiritual existence that is above and beyond the perception of
your intellectual mind.
Again, this is nothing but pretty rhetoric and regurgitated dogma. There is not a shred of evidence for any "spiritual existence" that independent of the brain. There is the neural network, the crown jewel of which is the brain. The brain generates consciousness, and consciousness produces the mind. Without a working brain, neither consciousness nor the mind exists.

Oh, and just so you know, not only is there no such thing as a spirit, there's also no such thing as a soul. Grow up and get over it.
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When you limit yourself to your small
intellectual mind,
*You* might have a small intellectual brain, but most of the rest of us are not so pitifully constrained.
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you fail to understand and comprehend the greater
spiritual world of existence
And for which there is exactly zero evidence.
Post by aaa
where justice and love can actually prevail.
Neither justice nor love are spiritual in nature. Justice is a feature of social animals, and love is produced in the mammalian brain by the release of the chemicals oxytocin and dopamine. Both justice and love have been observed in non-human animals both in and out of the lab. Jane Goodall observed those phenomena (along with compassion and several other qualities thought to be exclusive to humans) in chimpanzees in the Gombe region in Africa in the 1960s. They, like awe, are facets of personality that allow animals to live successfully in social groups and are the product of evolution. No gods required.

Brenda Nelson, A.A. #34
BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
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On Sunday, May 17, 2020 at 4:56:47 AM UTC-7, SkyEyes
On Sunday, May 17, 2020 at 1:33:53 AM UTC-7, Andrew W
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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because
of their strong religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of
religiosity and the presence of a god can be invoked by
stimulating a person's temporal lobe
(https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lobe-stimulation/).
Some epileptics have religious experiences pre- and
post-seizure
(https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lobe-epilepsy-aka-tle).
I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have learned
to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their brains.
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If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it
ain't supernatural.
Nobody says religious feeling is supernatural.
Religious belief is belief in the supernatural. If something
exists, it is natural. There is no supernatural.
how can you talk about god and remain in the natural
You don't have to believe in something to merely discuss
something that others believe in. Ever hear of the word fiction?
That's the problem. Just as the truth is neither physical nor
fictional,
You need to get over your fixation on "truth" and develop an interest
in FACT. As I have pointed out in other threads, truth is malleable;
it's what any given person feels it is. Fact, on the other hand, is
immutable, and doesn't vary from person to person and sect to sect.
It can be observed and quantified and built upon. It is *useful*.
I'm talking about the fundamental truth of philosophy. It is the
absolute truth. All facts must rely on the absolute truth in order to be
recognized as facts. The absolute truth is the foundation of the universe.
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God is neither physical nor fictional either. In addition to the
physical existence and the imaginary existence in your mind, there
is also a spiritual existence that is above and beyond the
perception of your intellectual mind.
Again, this is nothing but pretty rhetoric and regurgitated dogma.
Wrong. The spiritual existence is the study of philosophy. Real
philosophy is all about the spiritual existence. It's the same as real
science is all about the physical existence.
Post by SkyEyes
There is not a shred of evidence for any "spiritual existence" that
independent of the brain. There is the neural network, the crown
jewel of which is the brain. The brain generates consciousness, and
consciousness produces the mind. Without a working brain, neither
consciousness nor the mind exists.
Those spiritual things in my signature are real. They aren't any
figments of your imagination.
Post by SkyEyes
Oh, and just so you know, not only is there no such thing as a
spirit, there's also no such thing as a soul. Grow up and get over
it.
The evidence in my signature has proven you wrong. If there is the
spiritual existence, there must be a spiritual body to live in the
spiritual existence. That is the soul. The spirit would be the one who
gives life to the soul.
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Post by aaa
When you limit yourself to your small intellectual mind,
*You* might have a small intellectual brain, but most of the rest of
us are not so pitifully constrained.
Are you sure? There is another word for the intellectual brain. It's
called ego.
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Post by aaa
you fail to understand and comprehend the greater spiritual world
of existence
And for which there is exactly zero evidence.
The things in my signature are the evidence.
Post by SkyEyes
Post by aaa
where justice and love can actually prevail.
Neither justice nor love are spiritual in nature. Justice is a
feature of social animals, and love is produced in the mammalian
brain by the release of the chemicals oxytocin and dopamine. Both
justice and love have been observed in non-human animals both in and
out of the lab. Jane Goodall observed those phenomena (along with
compassion and several other qualities thought to be exclusive to
humans) in chimpanzees in the Gombe region in Africa in the 1960s.
They, like awe, are facets of personality that allow animals to live
successfully in social groups and are the product of evolution. No
gods required.
That's actually the evidence that justice and love are greater than
subjective opinion of the human mind. They are even known by animals.
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Brenda Nelson, A.A. #34 BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
Christ!
Mitchell Holman
2020-05-19 18:16:24 UTC
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I'm talking about the fundamental truth of philosophy. It is the
absolute truth.
So why don't you even TRY to read philosophy?




"I never bothered to read philosophy."
"aaa", April 23, 2017
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2020-05-19 23:46:34 UTC
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I'm talking about the fundamental truth of philosophy. It is the
absolute truth.
So why don't you even TRY to read philosophy?
I did read the superior teaching of Jesus Christ once, remember?
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"I never bothered to read philosophy."
"aaa", April 23, 2017
http://tinyurl.com/l2gt9ku
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
Christ!
Yap Honghor
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I'm talking about the fundamental truth of philosophy. It is the
absolute truth.
So why don't you even TRY to read philosophy?
I did read the superior teaching of Jesus Christ once, remember?
Yes, by never read the con bible....
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"I never bothered to read philosophy."
"aaa", April 23, 2017
http://tinyurl.com/l2gt9ku
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2020-05-20 02:09:12 UTC
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I'm talking about the fundamental truth of philosophy. It is the
absolute truth.
So why don't you even TRY to read philosophy?
I did read the superior teaching of Jesus Christ once, remember?
Liar.




"I don't read the Bible. I don't know any Bible verse."
"aaa", April 18, 2017
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2020-05-19 18:50:16 UTC
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You need to get over your fixation on "truth" and develop an interest in FACT. As I have pointed out in other threads, truth is malleable; it's what any given person feels it is. Fact, on the other hand, is immutable, and doesn't vary from person to person and sect to sect. It can be observed and quantified and built upon. It is *useful*.
Unless you're aaa, then facts vary from one post to post.
Everything is just an illusion or a misunderstanding.
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2020-05-19 23:48:11 UTC
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You need to get over your fixation on "truth" and develop an interest in FACT. As I have pointed out in other threads, truth is malleable; it's what any given person feels it is. Fact, on the other hand, is immutable, and doesn't vary from person to person and sect to sect. It can be observed and quantified and built upon. It is *useful*.
Unless you're aaa, then facts vary from one post to post.
Everything is just an illusion or a misunderstanding.
That's just your total lack of understanding.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
Christ!
Ivan The Terrible
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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of their strong
religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of religiosity and the presence of a god can be invoked by stimulating a person's temporal lobe (https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lobe-stimulation/). Some epileptics have religious experiences pre- and post-seizure (https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lobe-epilepsy-aka-tle).
I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have learned to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their brains.
If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it ain't supernatural.
Nobody says religious feeling is supernatural.
Religious belief is belief in the supernatural. If something exists, it is natural. There is no supernatural.
WRONG

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernatural
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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of their strong
religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of religiosity and the presence of a god can be invoked by stimulating a person's temporal lobe (https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lobe-stimulation/). Some epileptics have religious experiences pre- and post-seizure (https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lobe-epilepsy-aka-tle).
I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have learned to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their brains.
If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it ain't supernatural.
Nobody says religious feeling is supernatural.
Religious belief is belief in the supernatural. If something exists, it is natural. There is no supernatural.
WRONG
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernatural
As usual, you didn't make it past the first paragraph.
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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of their strong
religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of religiosity and the presence of a god can be invoked by stimulating a person's temporal lobe (https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lobe-stimulation/). Some epileptics have religious experiences pre- and post-seizure (https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lobe-epilepsy-aka-tle).
I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have learned to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their brains.
If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it ain't supernatural.
Nobody says religious feeling is supernatural.
Religious belief is belief in the supernatural. If something exists, it is natural. There is no supernatural.
It has nothing to do with supernatural. It's all about spiritual.

The things listed in my signature are proofs of God's spiritual world of
existence. If you don't want to deny them, you must acknowledge the
existence of God and his superior higher dimensional spiritual Kingdom
that is above and beyond this inferior lower dimensional physical universe.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
Christ!
SkyEyes
2020-05-19 11:35:15 UTC
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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of their strong
religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of religiosity and the presence of a god can be invoked by stimulating a person's temporal lobe (https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lobe-stimulation/). Some epileptics have religious experiences pre- and post-seizure (https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lobe-epilepsy-aka-tle).
I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have learned to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their brains.
If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it ain't supernatural.
Nobody says religious feeling is supernatural.
Religious belief is belief in the supernatural. If something exists, it is natural. There is no supernatural.
It has nothing to do with supernatural. It's all about spiritual.
The "spiritual" is no more factual than the supernatural is, and in fact depends on a belief in the supernatural in order to manifest. Don't confuse feelings of spirituality with wonder, they aren't the same thing.
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The things listed in my signature are proofs of God's spiritual world of
existence.
The things listed in your signature are nothing but dogma and rhetoric.
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If you don't want to deny them,
I don't deny those qualities, I deny your assertion of their divine provenance.
Post by aaa
you must acknowledge the
existence of God and his superior higher dimensional spiritual Kingdom
that is above and beyond this inferior lower dimensional physical universe.
I don't have to do any such thing. The qualities you have hijacked for your sig block - and which I have deconstructed for you in another post - are, in the main, qualities that facilitate living in social groups and are not in any way exclusive to humans.

In other words, Spanky, they aren't evidence that any god exists.

"Evidence" is (1) logical; (2) observable; (3) verifiable. It can be quantified and is subject to repeated observations. It is useful for making predictions of future findings and discoveries.

So: now that you know what *real* evidence is, do you have any for your god-thingy?

Brenda Nelson, A.A. #34
BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of
their strong religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of
religiosity and the presence of a god can be invoked by
stimulating a person's temporal lobe
(https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lobe-stimulation/).
Some epileptics have religious experiences pre- and
post-seizure
(https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lobe-epilepsy-aka-tle).
I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have learned
to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their brains.
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Post by michellemalkingmail.com
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Post by SkyEyes
If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it ain't supernatural.
Nobody says religious feeling is supernatural.
Religious belief is belief in the supernatural. If something
exists, it is natural. There is no supernatural.
It has nothing to do with supernatural. It's all about spiritual.
The "spiritual" is no more factual than the supernatural is, and in
fact depends on a belief in the supernatural in order to manifest.
Don't confuse feelings of spirituality with wonder, they aren't the
same thing.
The things listed in my signature are all spiritual. None of them has
anything to do with supernatural, and all of them are better and greater
than supernatural.
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Post by aaa
The things listed in my signature are proofs of God's spiritual
world of existence.
The things listed in your signature are nothing but dogma and
rhetoric.
That's your misunderstanding. They are real things studied by
philosophy. Without them, there would be no philosophy. If they are
fake, philosophy would be fake.
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Post by aaa
If you don't want to deny them,
I don't deny those qualities, I deny your assertion of their divine provenance.
That would be your blind denial. You have no evidence and no way to show
otherwise.
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Post by aaa
you must acknowledge the existence of God and his superior higher
dimensional spiritual Kingdom that is above and beyond this
inferior lower dimensional physical universe.
I don't have to do any such thing. The qualities you have hijacked
for your sig block - and which I have deconstructed for you in
another post - are, in the main, qualities that facilitate living in
social groups and are not in any way exclusive to humans.
That doesn't really prove anything. It can actually prove that God is
the God of all living things on Earth.
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In other words, Spanky, they aren't evidence that any god exists.
Blind denial.
Post by SkyEyes
"Evidence" is (1) logical; (2) observable; (3) verifiable. It can be
quantified and is subject to repeated observations. It is useful for
making predictions of future findings and discoveries.
So: now that you know what *real* evidence is, do you have any for your god-thingy?
You need to better understand what spiritual is before you can even
recognize the spiritual evidence in my signature.
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Brenda Nelson, A.A. #34 BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
Christ!
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Emo Philips
The Guardian, Thursday 29 September 2005
This morning I received thrilling news: a joke I wrote more than 20 years ago has been voted the funniest religious joke of all time! In case you've missed it, here it is:

Once I saw this guy on a bridge about to jump. I said, "Don't do it!" He said, "Nobody loves me." I said, "God loves you. Do you believe in God?"

He said, "Yes." I said, "Are you a Christian or a Jew?" He said, "A Christian." I said, "Me, too! Protestant or Catholic?" He said, "Protestant." I said, "Me, too! What franchise?" He said, "Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Baptist or Southern Baptist?" He said, "Northern Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist or Northern Liberal Baptist?"

He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region, or Northern Conservative Baptist Eastern Region?" He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region." I said, "Me, too!"

Northern Conservative†Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879, or Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912?" He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912." I said, "Die, heretic!" And I pushed him over.

Two things, however, have slightly tarnished my thrill.

First, the website that conducted the poll, Ship of Fools, did not attribute me as the author. Arghhhhh! Sure, it has been quite a while since I performed it. And true, I'm not on TV all the time like some comedians I could name if I watched TV all the time. But come on, guys! The slightest Google search! But back in the day ... ah, my friends! That joke and I astounded the world! Everywhere I played, in the largest of British theatres, the audiences clamoured for it! I told it not once but twice on British television. A few years ago it was voted by my peers as one of the top 75 jokes of all time. It has been anthologized in several joke books, most recently in Italian; the translator gave me a copy a few weeks ago after one of my shows. He pointed the joke out, without telling me which it was ... but I immediately recognised my old friend by the word "ponte".

Second, I learned why Ship of Fools was running the poll ... to shed light on the possible effect if the British government goes ahead with its intention to outlaw "offensive" religious jokes. Such a law would be a bad idea, for the simple reason that jokes are how we humans avoid violence. Jokes are our safety-release mechanism. Sure they can sometimes be offensive. So can burps. But if you ban them even worse results happen. And believe me, if someone tells a joke that truly offends, he or she will be punished for it. That's one area for sure where the government can take it easy and relax.

So I hope the ban never goes into effect. But in case it does, I had better seize this last glorious moment to tell the rest of my religious jokes. Here goes:

· When I was a kid, I used to pray every night for a new bike. Then I realised, the Lord doesn't work that way. So I just stole one and asked Him to forgive me ... and I got it!
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It has nothing to do with supernatural. It's all about spiritual.
It has nothing to do with "red!" It's all about "scarlet!"

Niu Nian is a Poe, or nuts, or both, but even a Poe ought
to be able to recognize when he's using a synonym.

--
Kevin R
a.a #2310
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It has nothing to do with supernatural. It's all about spiritual.
It has nothing to do with "red!" It's all about "scarlet!"
That only proves your lack of understanding of the spiritual. Too bad.

The spiritual is the study of philosophy. If you don't understand the
spiritual, you can't understand philosophy. I believe this is why you
deny God. Your atheist denial is entirely due to your lack of knowledge
in philosophy.
Post by Kevrob
Niu Nian is a Poe, or nuts, or both, but even a Poe ought
to be able to recognize when he's using a synonym.
--
Kevin R
a.a #2310
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
Christ!
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The spiritual is the study of philosophy.
Then why don't YOU study philosophy?




"I never bothered to read philosophy."
"aaa", April 23, 2017
http://tinyurl.com/l2gt9ku
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2020-05-19 23:49:29 UTC
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The spiritual is the study of philosophy.
Then why don't YOU study philosophy?
I have been doing exactly that. It's why I'm able to share what I have
learned.
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"I never bothered to read philosophy."
"aaa", April 23, 2017
http://tinyurl.com/l2gt9ku
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
Christ!
Yap Honghor
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The spiritual is the study of philosophy.
Then why don't YOU study philosophy?
"I never bothered to read philosophy."
"aaa", April 23, 2017
http://tinyurl.com/l2gt9ku
He can't...he will demand in class that the lectures should be all about a non-existent pixie in his first lesson!!!!
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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of their strong
religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of religiosity and the presence of a god can be invoked by stimulating a person's temporal lobe (https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lobe-stimulation/). Some epileptics have religious experiences pre- and post-seizure (https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lobe-epilepsy-aka-tle).
I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have learned to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their brains.
If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it ain't supernatural.
Nobody says religious feeling is supernatural.
"The supernatural are the entities, places and events that are supposed to fall outside of the scope of scientific understanding of the laws of nature but nevertheless are argued by believers to exist. Wikipedia"
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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of their
stro
ng
Post by Ivan The Terrible
Post by SkyEyes
Post by Andrew W
religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of
religiosity a
nd the presence of a god can be invoked by stimulating a person's
temporal lobe
(https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lobe-
stimulation/). Some epileptics have religious experiences pre- and
post-seizure
(https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lobe-
epilepsy-aka-tle).
Post by Ivan The Terrible
Post by SkyEyes
I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have
learne
d to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their
brains.
Post by Ivan The Terrible
Post by SkyEyes
If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it ain't
supernatura
l.
Post by Ivan The Terrible
Nobody says religious feeling is supernatural.
"The supernatural are the entities, places and events that are
supposed to fall outside of the scope of scientific understanding of
the laws of nature but nevertheless are argued by believers to exist.
Wikipedia"
Bingo.

Religious beliefs sre by definition supernatural.




supernatural:

of, pertaining to, characteristic of, or
attributed to God or a deity.
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/supernatural?s=t
Ivan The Terrible
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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of their
stro
ng
Post by Ivan The Terrible
Post by SkyEyes
Post by Andrew W
religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of
religiosity a
nd the presence of a god can be invoked by stimulating a person's
temporal lobe
(https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lobe-
stimulation/). Some epileptics have religious experiences pre- and
post-seizure
(https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lobe-
epilepsy-aka-tle).
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Post by SkyEyes
I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have
learne
d to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their
brains.
Post by Ivan The Terrible
Post by SkyEyes
If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it ain't
supernatura
l.
Post by Ivan The Terrible
Nobody says religious feeling is supernatural.
"The supernatural are the entities, places and events that are
supposed to fall outside of the scope of scientific understanding of
the laws of nature but nevertheless are argued by believers to exist.
Wikipedia"
Bingo.
Religious beliefs sre by definition supernatural.
WRONG. The beliefs are natural. You don't read very well.
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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of their
stro
ng
Post by Ivan The Terrible
Post by SkyEyes
Post by Andrew W
religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of
religiosity a
nd the presence of a god can be invoked by stimulating a person's
temporal lobe
(https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lobe-
stimulation/). Some epileptics have religious experiences pre- and
post-seizure
(https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lobe-
epilepsy-aka-tle).
Post by Ivan The Terrible
Post by SkyEyes
I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have
learne
d to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their
brains.
Post by Ivan The Terrible
Post by SkyEyes
If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it ain't
supernatura
l.
Post by Ivan The Terrible
Nobody says religious feeling is supernatural.
"The supernatural are the entities, places and events that are
supposed to fall outside of the scope of scientific understanding of
the laws of nature but nevertheless are argued by believers to exist.
Wikipedia"
Bingo.
Religious beliefs sre by definition supernatural.
WRONG. The beliefs are natural. You don't read very well.
Of course. The beliefs exist. But, if what the beliefs are about don't exist,
that isn't natural.
Mitchell Holman
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Post by Ivan The Terrible
No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of
their stro
ng
Post by Ivan The Terrible
Post by SkyEyes
Post by Andrew W
religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of
religiosity a
nd the presence of a god can be invoked by stimulating a person's
temporal lobe
(https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lo
be- stimulation/). Some epileptics have religious experiences pre-
and post-seizure
(https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lo
be- epilepsy-aka-tle).
Post by Ivan The Terrible
Post by SkyEyes
I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have
learne
d to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their
brains.
Post by Ivan The Terrible
Post by SkyEyes
If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it ain't
supernatura
l.
Post by Ivan The Terrible
Nobody says religious feeling is supernatural.
"The supernatural are the entities, places and events that are
supposed to fall outside of the scope of scientific understanding
of the laws of nature but nevertheless are argued by believers to
exist. Wikipedia"
Bingo.
Religious beliefs sre by definition supernatural.
WRONG. The beliefs are natural. You don't read very well.
Here is the definition you deleted.


supernatural:

of, pertaining to, characteristic of, or
attributed to God or a deity.
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/supernatural?s=t
Ivan The Terrible
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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of
their stro
ng
Post by Ivan The Terrible
Post by SkyEyes
Post by Andrew W
religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of
religiosity a
nd the presence of a god can be invoked by stimulating a person's
temporal lobe
(https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lo
be- stimulation/). Some epileptics have religious experiences pre-
and post-seizure
(https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lo
be- epilepsy-aka-tle).
Post by Ivan The Terrible
Post by SkyEyes
I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have
learne
d to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their
brains.
Post by Ivan The Terrible
Post by SkyEyes
If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it ain't
supernatura
l.
Post by Ivan The Terrible
Nobody says religious feeling is supernatural.
"The supernatural are the entities, places and events that are
supposed to fall outside of the scope of scientific understanding
of the laws of nature but nevertheless are argued by believers to
exist. Wikipedia"
Bingo.
Religious beliefs sre by definition supernatural.
WRONG. The beliefs are natural. You don't read very well.
Here is the definition you deleted.
of, pertaining to, characteristic of, or
attributed to God or a deity.
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/supernatural?s=t
Human beliefs are natural. We all see and have them and doctors can map them in our brains. We can have human beliefs about supernatural things, but that is different.
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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of
their stro
ng
Post by Ivan The Terrible
Post by SkyEyes
Post by Andrew W
religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of
religiosity a
nd the presence of a god can be invoked by stimulating a person's
temporal lobe
(https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lo
be- stimulation/). Some epileptics have religious experiences pre-
and post-seizure
(https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lo
be- epilepsy-aka-tle).
Post by Ivan The Terrible
Post by SkyEyes
I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have
learne
d to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their
brains.
Post by Ivan The Terrible
Post by SkyEyes
If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it ain't
supernatura
l.
Post by Ivan The Terrible
Nobody says religious feeling is supernatural.
"The supernatural are the entities, places and events that are
supposed to fall outside of the scope of scientific understanding
of the laws of nature but nevertheless are argued by believers to
exist. Wikipedia"
Bingo.
Religious beliefs sre by definition supernatural.
WRONG. The beliefs are natural. You don't read very well.
Here is the definition you deleted.
of, pertaining to, characteristic of, or
attributed to God or a deity.
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/supernatural?s=t
Human beliefs are natural. We all see and have them and doctors can map them in our brains. We can have human beliefs about supernatural things, but that is different.
What's different is that you have no evidence to back your belief in supernatural woo-woo.
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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of
their stro
ng
Post by Ivan The Terrible
Post by SkyEyes
Post by Andrew W
religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of
religiosity a
nd the presence of a god can be invoked by stimulating a person's
temporal lobe
(https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lo
be- stimulation/). Some epileptics have religious experiences pre-
and post-seizure
(https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lo
be- epilepsy-aka-tle).
Post by Ivan The Terrible
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I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have
learne
d to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their
brains.
Post by Ivan The Terrible
Post by SkyEyes
If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it ain't
supernatura
l.
Post by Ivan The Terrible
Nobody says religious feeling is supernatural.
"The supernatural are the entities, places and events that are
supposed to fall outside of the scope of scientific understanding
of the laws of nature but nevertheless are argued by believers to
exist. Wikipedia"
Bingo.
Religious beliefs sre by definition supernatural.
WRONG. The beliefs are natural. You don't read very well.
Here is the definition you deleted.
of, pertaining to, characteristic of, or
attributed to God or a deity.
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/supernatural?s=t
Human beliefs are natural. We all see and have them and doctors can map them in our brains. We can have human beliefs about supernatural things, but that is different.
You can imagine you are going to win $100,000 tomorrow in your casino, it can be true or be false...but you are dealing with reality in life, not something which can live in the sky which would make your imagination of 100,000 true!!!!!
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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of
their stro
ng
Post by Ivan The Terrible
Post by SkyEyes
Post by Andrew W
religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of
religiosity a
nd the presence of a god can be invoked by stimulating a person's
temporal lobe
(https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lo
be- stimulation/). Some epileptics have religious experiences pre-
and post-seizure
(https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lo
be- epilepsy-aka-tle).
Post by Ivan The Terrible
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I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have
learne
d to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their
brains.
Post by Ivan The Terrible
Post by SkyEyes
If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it ain't
supernatura
l.
Post by Ivan The Terrible
Nobody says religious feeling is supernatural.
"The supernatural are the entities, places and events that are
supposed to fall outside of the scope of scientific understanding
of the laws of nature but nevertheless are argued by believers to
exist. Wikipedia"
Bingo.
Religious beliefs sre by definition supernatural.
WRONG. The beliefs are natural. You don't read very well.
Here is the definition you deleted.
of, pertaining to, characteristic of, or
attributed to God or a deity.
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/supernatural?s=t
Human beliefs are natural. We all see and have them and doctors can map them in our brains. We can have human beliefs about supernatural things, but that is different.
You can imagine you are going to win $100,000 tomorrow in your casino, it can be true or be false...but you are dealing with reality in life, not something which can live in the sky which would make your imagination of 100,000 true!!!!!
For you, reality is whatever the Chinese Communist Party says it is.

The CCP is your pixie.
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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of
their stro
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religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of
religiosity a
nd the presence of a god can be invoked by stimulating a person's
temporal lobe
(https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lo
be- stimulation/). Some epileptics have religious experiences pre-
and post-seizure
(https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lo
be- epilepsy-aka-tle).
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I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have
learne
d to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their
brains.
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If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it ain't
supernatura
l.
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Nobody says religious feeling is supernatural.
"The supernatural are the entities, places and events that are
supposed to fall outside of the scope of scientific understanding
of the laws of nature but nevertheless are argued by believers to
exist. Wikipedia"
Bingo.
Religious beliefs sre by definition supernatural.
WRONG. The beliefs are natural. You don't read very well.
Here is the definition you deleted.
of, pertaining to, characteristic of, or
attributed to God or a deity.
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/supernatural?s=t
Human beliefs are natural. We all see and have them and doctors can map them in our brains. We can have human beliefs about supernatural things, but that is different.
You can imagine you are going to win $100,000 tomorrow in your casino, it can be true or be false...but you are dealing with reality in life, not something which can live in the sky which would make your imagination of 100,000 true!!!!!
For you, reality is whatever the Chinese Communist Party says it is.
No...US neocons are brewing conspiracy theory all the time in order to light big fires all over the world!!!!
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The CCP is your pixie.
CCP is trying to serve the Chinese people since day one, nothing to do serving of US interests like those running dogs!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of their strong
religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of religiosity and the presence of a god can be invoked by stimulating a person's temporal lobe (https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lobe-stimulation/). Some epileptics have religious experiences pre- and post-seizure (https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lobe-epilepsy-aka-tle).
I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have learned to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their brains.
If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it ain't supernatural.
Nobody says religious feeling is supernatural.
"The supernatural are the entities, places and events that are supposed to fall outside of the scope of scientific understanding of the laws of nature but nevertheless are argued by believers to exist. Wikipedia"
Meaning that they have no proof of existence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernatural

As usual, ArtieJoe didn't make it past the fist paragraph.
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2020-05-18 01:15:38 UTC
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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of their strong
religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of religiosity and the presence of a god can be invoked by stimulating a person's temporal lobe (https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lobe-stimulation/). Some epileptics have religious experiences pre- and post-seizure (https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lobe-epilepsy-aka-tle).
I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have learned to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their brains.
If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it ain't supernatural.
Nobody says religious feeling is supernatural.
"The supernatural are the entities, places and events that are supposed to fall outside of the scope of scientific understanding of the laws of nature but nevertheless are argued by believers to exist. Wikipedia"
And there is nothing the wiki can provide to show the truth of the claims from theistic believers....
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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of their strong
religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of religiosity and the presence of a god can be invoked by stimulating a person's temporal lobe (https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lobe-stimulation/). Some epileptics have religious experiences pre- and post-seizure (https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lobe-epilepsy-aka-tle).
I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have learned to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their brains.
If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it ain't supernatural.
Nobody says religious feeling is supernatural.
How about all those people that pray that "God will touch your heart"? *They* certainly believe that religious feelings come from their supernatural god, that's why they pray that their god will give the same feelings to unbelievers, who will then be "convicted" of their "sins" and get "saved." I grew up surrounded by such people. I heard it five days a week at church for the first 19 years of my life.

And at any rate, "religious feeling" is all *about* the supernatural - "God." (Or gods, for the pantheists out there). Feelings of awe at the unknown (which is what superstition, and hence religion was), in our distant ancestors, a built-in safeguard to keep them safe and well through breeding age. If Og the paleo-human went to investigate the stirring in the bushes, he could get killed and eaten by a leopard. If he stood outside in the elements trying to figure out what lightning was, he might well be struck by it and die. But if his brain produced feelings of awe and dread when something unexplained happened - and in those days, that was nearly everything - Og would run away and get to a safe place in the cave with the other paleo-humans in his band. He would live to pass his genes, including the genes that made a superstitious brain, to his offspring. Those genes are still with us. They manifest in the trolls in this newsgroup every time they threaten us atheists with hellfire. It's Og, warning about a cosmic-but-unevidenced leopard or an angry alpha male in the sky. It's the temporal lobe doing it's thing. The more scientists study the human brain, the more plain this becomes.

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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of their strong
religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of religiosity and the presence of a god can be invoked by stimulating a person's temporal lobe (https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lobe-stimulation/). Some epileptics have religious experiences pre- and post-seizure (https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lobe-epilepsy-aka-tle).
I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have learned to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their brains.
If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it ain't supernatural.
Nobody says religious feeling is supernatural.
How about all those people that pray that "God will touch your heart"? *They* certainly believe that religious feelings come from their supernatural god, that's why they pray that their god will give the same feelings to unbelievers, who will then be "convicted" of their "sins" and get "saved." I grew up surrounded by such people. I heard it five days a week at church for the first 19 years of my life.
And at any rate, "religious feeling" is all *about* the supernatural - "God." (Or gods, for the pantheists out there). Feelings of awe at the unknown (which is what superstition, and hence religion was), in our distant ancestors, a built-in safeguard to keep them safe and well through breeding age. If Og the paleo-human went to investigate the stirring in the bushes, he could get killed and eaten by a leopard. If he stood outside in the elements trying to figure out what lightning was, he might well be struck by it and die. But if his brain produced feelings of awe and dread when something unexplained happened - and in those days, that was nearly everything - Og would run away and get to a safe place in the cave with the other paleo-humans in his band. He would live to pass his genes, including the genes that made a superstitious brain, to his offspring. Those genes are still with us. They manifest in the trolls in this newsgroup every time they threaten us atheists with hellfire. It's Og, warning about a cosmic-but-unevidenced leopard or an angry alpha male in the sky. It's the temporal lobe doing it's thing. The more scientists study the human brain, the more plain this becomes.
Brenda Nelson, A.A. #34
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Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
Nonsense. Feelings are natural, we all have them and medical science has tracked them to our brains. Supernatural things cannot be proven by science.
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Nonsense. Feelings are natural, we all have them and >medical science has tracked them to our brains. Supernatural things cannot be >proven by science.
BECAUSE THEY DON'T EXIST.
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2020-05-20 00:19:34 UTC
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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of their strong
religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of religiosity and the presence of a god can be invoked by stimulating a person's temporal lobe (https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lobe-stimulation/). Some epileptics have religious experiences pre- and post-seizure (https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lobe-epilepsy-aka-tle).
I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have learned to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their brains.
If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it ain't supernatural.
Nobody says religious feeling is supernatural.
How about all those people that pray that "God will touch your heart"? *They* certainly believe that religious feelings come from their supernatural god, that's why they pray that their god will give the same feelings to unbelievers, who will then be "convicted" of their "sins" and get "saved." I grew up surrounded by such people. I heard it five days a week at church for the first 19 years of my life.
And at any rate, "religious feeling" is all *about* the supernatural - "God." (Or gods, for the pantheists out there). Feelings of awe at the unknown (which is what superstition, and hence religion was), in our distant ancestors, a built-in safeguard to keep them safe and well through breeding age. If Og the paleo-human went to investigate the stirring in the bushes, he could get killed and eaten by a leopard. If he stood outside in the elements trying to figure out what lightning was, he might well be struck by it and die. But if his brain produced feelings of awe and dread when something unexplained happened - and in those days, that was nearly everything - Og would run away and get to a safe place in the cave with the other paleo-humans in his band. He would live to pass his genes, including the genes that made a superstitious brain, to his offspring. Those genes are still with us. They manifest in the trolls in this newsgroup every time they threaten us atheists with hellfire. It's Og, warning about a cosmic-but-unevidenced leopard or an angry alpha male in the sky. It's the temporal lobe doing it's thing. The more scientists study the human brain, the more plain this becomes.
Brenda Nelson, A.A. #34
BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
Nonsense. Feelings are natural, we all have them and medical science has tracked them to our brains. Supernatural things cannot be proven by science.
The only supernatural things in this world are the supernova and black holes, not the supernatural beings which have no reason to exist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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2020-05-20 01:06:03 UTC
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The only supernatural things in this world are the
supernova and black holes, not the supernatural beings
which have no reason to exist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We have pictures of supernovae and black holes. We have no
pictures of supernatural things.
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2020-05-20 01:35:10 UTC
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The only supernatural things in this world are the
supernova and black holes, not the supernatural beings
which have no reason to exist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We have pictures of supernovae and black holes.
We don't have pictures of black hole. They remain an
unproven theory.
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We have no pictures of supernatural things.
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2020-05-20 02:09:41 UTC
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The only supernatural things in this world are the
supernova and black holes, not the supernatural beings
which have no reason to exist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We have pictures of supernovae and black holes.
We don't have pictures of black hole. They remain an
unproven theory.
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The black hole is the black part in the middle.
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The only supernatural things in this world are the
supernova and black holes, not the supernatural beings
which have no reason to exist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We have pictures of supernovae and black holes.
We don't have pictures of black hole. They remain an
unproven theory.
https://www.slrlounge.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/first-picture-of-black-hole.jpg
The black hole is the black part in the middle.
no it's not the black part is your neighbor in the next apartment
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The only supernatural things in this world are the
supernova and black holes, not the supernatural beings
which have no reason to exist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We have pictures of supernovae and black holes.
We don't have pictures of black hole. They remain an
unproven theory.
https://www.slrlounge.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/first-picture-of-black-hole.jpg
The black hole is the black part in the middle.
no it's not the black part
WHAT DO YOU MEAN

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The only supernatural things in this world are the supernova and black
holes, not the supernatural beings which have no reason to
exist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We have pictures of supernovae and black holes.  We have no pictures of
supernatural things.
that's because i don't post my picture
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The only supernatural things in this world are the supernova and black
holes, not the supernatural beings which have no reason to
exist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We have pictures of supernovae and black holes.  We have no pictures of
supernatural things.
that's because i don't post my picture
OR ANY PUNCTION
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Nobody says religious feeling is supernatural.
How about all those people that pray that "God will touch your heart"?
*They* certainly believe that religious feelings come from their supernatural
One of core protestant beliefs is everyone is a priest: everyone
is in direct commmunication with their god. Everything about
christianity is irrational and supernatural. Do you think it's
rational to love someone kicking you in your face?
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god, that's why they pray that their god will give the same feelings to
unbelievers, who will then be "convicted" of their "sins" and get "saved." I
Not all protestant churches are about hate and damnation. Don't
mistake your anecdotes for evidence. The AMEC split from the
methodist church because AMEC refused the hate of racist
methodists. The UMC may split again because american methodists
(mostly) refuse to hate gays.
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grew up surrounded by such people. I heard it five days a week at church for
the first 19 years of my life.
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Nobody says religious feeling is supernatural.
How about all those people that pray that "God will touch your heart"?
*They* certainly believe that religious feelings come from their supernatural
One of core protestant beliefs is everyone is a priest: everyone
is in direct commmunication with their god. Everything about
christianity is irrational and supernatural. Do you think it's
rational to love someone kicking you in your face?
The stupid duke hates me when I kick him hard in the face...
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god, that's why they pray that their god will give the same feelings to
unbelievers, who will then be "convicted" of their "sins" and get "saved." I
Not all protestant churches are about hate and damnation. Don't
mistake your anecdotes for evidence. The AMEC split from the
methodist church because AMEC refused the hate of racist
methodists. The UMC may split again because american methodists
(mostly) refuse to hate gays.
Some fools are stupider than others!
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grew up surrounded by such people. I heard it five days a week at church for the first 19 years of my life.
Results may differ. Contents may settle during shipping.
Ya, some people are stronger and can therefore struggle free of religious dogma while many weak ones just succumbed!
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https://www.deseret.com/2017/2/2/20605291/is-religious-faith-a-mental-illness#c-s-lewis-memorial-in-poets-corner-at-westminster-abbey
No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of their strong
religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of religiosity and the presence of a god can be invoked by stimulating a person's temporal lobe (https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lobe-stimulation/). Some epileptics have religious experiences pre- and post-seizure (https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lobe-epilepsy-aka-tle).
I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have learned to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their brains.
If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it ain't supernatural.
So religious feeling is natural to human beings.

Thanks for proving it.
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2020-05-17 18:55:51 UTC
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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of their strong
religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of religiosity and the presence of a god can be invoked by stimulating a person's temporal lobe (https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lobe-stimulation/). Some epileptics have religious experiences pre- and post-seizure (https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lobe-epilepsy-aka-tle).
I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have learned to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their brains.
If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it ain't supernatural.
So religious feeling is natural to human beings.
Thanks for proving it.
The brain will create endorphins to deal with pain, nature's
own little opiod-like chemicals. Painkillers discovered in nature
or created in the lab will have very strong effects, up to and
including addiction.

Because something is natural, or can be created out of natural
components, doesn't mean that it necessarily proper to exist in
a human body. That religion is a mental construct that can affect
brain chemistry, doesn't mean that it is good for us, anymore than
taking morphine or other opiates recreationally is.

Meditation can create some interesting brain chemistry, regardless
of whether one has a theistic or non-theistic impulse to try that.

[quote]

The effort to reconcile science and religion is almost always made, not
by theologians, but by scientists unable to shake off altogether the
piety absorbed with their mother's milk.

- H L Mencken {Minority Report (232) } †

{also}

For centuries, theologians have been explaining the unknowable in terms
of the-not-worth-knowing.

— H. L. Mencken {A Book of Burlesques} *

[/quote]

†

https://books.google.com/books?id=ZVD1AAAAQBAJ&pg=PA248&lpg=PA248&dq=%22minority+report%22+effort+reconcile+science+religion&source=bl&ots=O839EPXMRk&sig=ACfU3U0OOL4W8hzzx6usRYtpzN6iAD7mEQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiu34q7xLvpAhWtlHIEHU5CC1gQ6AEwAnoECAgQAQ#v=onepage&q=%22minority%20report%22%20effort%20reconcile%20science%20religion&f=false

*

https://www.google.com/books/edition/A_Book_of_Burlesques/NM4fAQAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=mencken+burlesques+theology&pg=PA209&printsec=frontcover


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No, say most psychiatrists
Some people however do develop mental illnesses because of their strong
religious beliefs.
It's been established by lab experiments that feelings of religiosity and the presence of a god can be invoked by stimulating a person's temporal lobe (https://www.lumennatura.com/2012/06/30/god-on-the-brain-temporal-lobe-stimulation/). Some epileptics have religious experiences pre- and post-seizure (https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/temporal-lobe-epilepsy-aka-tle).
I suspect that a great majority of the religiously inclined have learned to, and become accustomed to, self-stimulate this area of their brains.
If a religious feeling can be replicated in a lab, it ain't supernatural.
So religious feeling is natural to human beings.
Thanks for proving it.
The brain will create endorphins to deal with pain, nature's
own little opiod-like chemicals. Painkillers discovered in nature
or created in the lab will have very strong effects, up to and
including addiction.
Because something is natural, or can be created out of natural
components, doesn't mean that it necessarily proper to exist in
a human body. That atheism is a mental construct that can affect
brain chemistry, doesn't mean that it is good for us, anymore than
taking morphine or other opiates recreationally is.
Meditation can create some interesting brain chemistry, regardless
of whether one has a theistic or non-theistic impulse to try that.
Fixed it for ya.
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Because something is natural, or can be created out of natural
components, doesn't mean that it necessarily proper to exist in
a human body. That /a/t/h/e/i/s/m/ religion is a mental construct
that can affect brain chemistry, doesn't mean that it is good for
us, anymore than taking morphine or other opiates recreationally is.
Meditation can create some interesting brain chemistry, regardless
of whether one has a theistic or non-theistic impulse to try that.
Fixed it for ya.
Curdles considers vandalism "fixing things?"

A mere IKYABWAI post, at that.

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Because something is natural, or can be created out of natural
components, doesn't mean that it necessarily proper to exist in
a human body. That /a/t/h/e/i/s/m/ religion is a mental construct
that can affect brain chemistry, doesn't mean that it is good for
us, anymore than taking morphine or other opiates recreationally is.
Meditation can create some interesting brain chemistry, regardless
of whether one has a theistic or non-theistic impulse to try that.
Fixed it for ya.
Curdles considers vandalism "fixing things?"
A mere IKYABWAI post, at that.
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Vandalism? Correcting your distortions is the right thing to do.
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Curdles considers vandalism "fixing things?"
A mere IKYABWAI post, at that.
Vandalism? Correcting your distortions is the right thing to do.
One troll supports another.

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Yap Honghor
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No, say most psychiatrists
I am certainly in agreement that religious faith is a very visible kind of mental illness!!!!

The neurons in the mind of a believer have been corrupted to such an extend that they cannot function properly in a sane world, much like using logic and reason to deal with a situation!
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No, say most psychiatrists
Religious Personality Disorder, or in an acronym - RPD.

When does a personality trait becomes disorder?
There is a stage in which normal life , relationship with others,
cognitive abilities and decision making are impaired.

KRYOEL
Siri Cruise
2020-05-19 12:50:35 UTC
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No, say most psychiatrists
Religious Personality Disorder, or in an acronym - RPD.
When does a personality trait becomes disorder?
There is a stage in which normal life , relationship with others,
cognitive abilities and decision making are impaired.
KRYOEL
In the US psychiatry is concerned with what the patient wants.
With the exception that a person who is danger to themselves or
others can be physically restricted. Otherwise there is no
objective measure of what is normal; normal is what most people
in that region do. Bigotry was normal in 1955 (when america was
last great); bigotry is abnormal today. Because normality is not
always the ideal place, psychiatry stopped being about forcing
normality and about helping people overcome mental obstacles to
what those individuals want in their lives.

The exception is made because being a danger can be made somewhat
objective.
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Kevrob
2020-05-19 13:25:34 UTC
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https://www.deseret.com/2017/2/2/20605291/is-religious-faith-a-mental-illness#c-s-lewis-memorial-in-poets-corner-at-westminster-abbey
No, say most psychiatrists
Religious Personality Disorder, or in an acronym - RPD.
When does a personality trait becomes disorder?
There is a stage in which normal life , relationship with others,
cognitive abilities and decision making are impaired.
KRYOEL
It has been proposed as "Religious Trauma Syndrome"

https://journeyfree.org/rts/

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/05/well/mind/religion-trauma-lgbt-gay-depression-anxiety.html

Any victim of indoctrination could be messed up, not just
those brought up in a religion.

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