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Are we alone in the universe?
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Michael Cole
2019-02-09 16:30:50 UTC
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Hi all. I thought I would share a cranky observation about the way media likes to dumb down everything. On one of the news shows this morning they interviewed a scientist who argued that the weird space rock Oumuama that recently passed through our solar system was evidence of intelligent alien life. So they made a big deal of having the audience answer a poll question "Is it arrogant for us to assume we are alone in the universe?" I find the stupidity of the question annoying. What the hell does human ego have to do with a factual question about the universe?

I have no interest in being arrogant or humble when considering a question of fact. Putting aside the question of arrogance, I think it is STUPID to assume we are alone in the universe and equally stupid to assume we are not. I could make all kinds of cogent arguments that the sequence of events that led to the evolution of complex life on earth was sufficiently serendipitous, it could be a once-in-a-universe happening. But then we must consider different ways complex life could evolve and on that we can only speculate in the dark. My guess, which is as worthless as anyone else's, is that simple life such as photosynthetic bacteria may be fairly common and more complex life much rarer. How rare? Well, now you've got me guessing.
Davej
2019-02-09 17:19:18 UTC
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[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we are alone in
the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead civilizations. The theists
in their sick minds look forward longingly to Armageddon.
Michael Cole
2019-02-09 17:23:26 UTC
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[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we are alone in
the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead civilizations. The theists
in their sick minds look forward longingly to Armageddon.
Indeed. I remember checking out a Jehovah's Witless website years ago when some awful stuff was happening in Lebanon. They were literally praying for nuclear missles to fly.
Ted
1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC
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Post by Davej
[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we are alone in
the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead civilizations. The theists
in their sick minds look forward longingly to Armageddon.
Indeed. I remember checking out a Jehovah's Witless website years ago
when some awful stuff was happening in Lebanon. They were literally
praying for nuclear missles to fly.
"Thy kingdom come." Hell yeah. The sooner the better, as far as they're
concerned. (e.g. VP Pence.)

Revelation 11:18 "And thy wrath is come ... and that thou shouldest give
reward unto thy servants .., and shouldest destroy them which destroy the
earth."
Christopher A. Lee
2019-02-09 17:52:08 UTC
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On Sat, 9 Feb 2019 09:23:26 -0800 (PST), Michael Cole
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Post by Davej
[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we are alone in
the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead civilizations. The theists
in their sick minds look forward longingly to Armageddon.
Indeed. I remember checking out a Jehovah's Witless website years ago
when some awful stuff was happening in Lebanon. They were literally
praying for nuclear missles to fly.
They're fundier than the fundies - and they want Armaggedon.
Robert Carnegie
2019-02-09 22:10:23 UTC
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On Sat, 9 Feb 2019 09:23:26 -0800 (PST), Michael Cole
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Post by Davej
[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we are alone in
the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead civilizations. The theists
in their sick minds look forward longingly to Armageddon.
Indeed. I remember checking out a Jehovah's Witless website years ago
when some awful stuff was happening in Lebanon. They were literally
praying for nuclear missles to fly.
They're fundier than the fundies - and they want Armaggedon.
If I remember right, they promised the end of the world -
it hasn't happened yet. This is embarrassing to them.
Michael Cole
2019-02-09 22:34:28 UTC
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Hey. If they predict the end of the world every day for millions of years, eventually the day will come when they are right.
Ted
1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC
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Hey. If they predict the end of the world every day for millions of
years, eventually the day will come when they are right.
Aha! So you admit that they're right! :-)
Ron Dean
2019-02-16 19:23:18 UTC
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Post by Christopher A. Lee
On Sat, 9 Feb 2019 09:23:26 -0800 (PST), Michael Cole
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Post by Davej
[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we are alone in
the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead civilizations. The theists
in their sick minds look forward longingly to Armageddon.
Indeed. I remember checking out a Jehovah's Witless website years ago
when some awful stuff was happening in Lebanon. They were literally
praying for nuclear missles to fly.
They're fundier than the fundies - and they want Armaggedon.
If I remember right, they promised the end of the world -
it hasn't happened yet. This is embarrassing to them.
What group are you referring to?
Robert Carnegie
2019-02-16 20:56:40 UTC
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Post by Davej
[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we are alone in
the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead civilizations. The theists
in their sick minds look forward longingly to Armageddon.
Indeed. I remember checking out a Jehovah's Witless website years ago
when some awful stuff was happening in Lebanon. They were literally
praying for nuclear missles to fly.
They're fundier than the fundies - and they want Armaggedon.
If I remember right, they promised the end of the world -
it hasn't happened yet. This is embarrassing to them.
What group are you referring to?
Jehovah's Witnesses.

<https://www.patheos.com/blogs/godlessmom/2018/03/8-times-the-jehovahs-witnesses-were-wrong-about-the-end-of-the-world/>

Quote: "They've been wrong more times than my husband."
Ron Dean
2019-02-16 19:22:21 UTC
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On Sat, 9 Feb 2019 09:23:26 -0800 (PST), Michael Cole
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Post by Davej
[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we are alone in
the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead civilizations. The theists
in their sick minds look forward longingly to Armageddon.
Indeed. I remember checking out a Jehovah's Witless website years ago
when some awful stuff was happening in Lebanon. They were literally
praying for nuclear missles to fly.
They're fundier than the fundies - and they want Armaggedon.
Nonsense, no one wants Armageddon. Do you make points by misrepresenting
what people want?
Yap Honghor
2019-02-10 10:05:46 UTC
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Post by Davej
[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we are alone in
the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead civilizations. The theists
in their sick minds look forward longingly to Armageddon.
Indeed. I remember checking out a Jehovah's Witless website years ago when some awful stuff was happening in Lebanon. They were literally praying for nuclear missles to fly.
It is not easy to deal with the stupidity of all sects of Christianity!!!

But why don't they just simply commit suicide en mass? Those at the fringe of a nuke explosion will suffer in great pain for prolong period of time!!!!
Ron Dean
2019-02-16 19:20:39 UTC
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Post by Davej
[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we are alone in
the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead civilizations. The theists
in their sick minds look forward longingly to Armageddon.
Indeed. I remember checking out a Jehovah's Witless website years ago when some awful stuff was happening in Lebanon. They were literally praying for nuclear missles to fly.
This is crazy!
d***@cox.net
2019-02-10 12:56:14 UTC
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[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we are alone in
the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead civilizations. The theists
in their sick minds look forward longingly to Armageddon.
God will lift his people out of it. Which side are you on?
Michael Cole
2019-02-10 13:44:42 UTC
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[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we are alone in
the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead civilizations. The theists
in their sick minds look forward longingly to Armageddon.
God will lift his people out of it. Which side are you on?
Your question seems to be addressed to Davej. But my answer is that I am on the side of sane people who regard the continued existence of life on earth desirable. Suggestion Duke. If your imaginary sky pixie actually exists and judges us, perhaps he gives demerits to the sickos who are horny for the end of the world.
d***@cox.net
2019-02-10 16:21:11 UTC
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Post by Davej
[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we are alone in
the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead civilizations. The theists
in their sick minds look forward longingly to Armageddon.
God will lift his people out of it. Which side are you on?
Your question seems to be addressed to Davej. But my answer is that I am
on the side of sane people who regard the continued existence of life on earth desirable.
So you're limiting life to earth only?
Post by Michael Cole
Suggestion Duke. If your imaginary sky pixie actually exists and judges us
, perhaps he gives demerits to the sickos who are horny for the end of the world.
Horny is natural unless you're strange.
Michael Cole
2019-02-10 16:56:02 UTC
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Post by Davej
[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we are alone in
the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead civilizations. The theists
in their sick minds look forward longingly to Armageddon.
God will lift his people out of it. Which side are you on?
Your question seems to be addressed to Davej. But my answer is that I am
on the side of sane people who regard the continued existence of life on earth desirable.
So you're limiting life to earth only?
Post by Michael Cole
Suggestion Duke. If your imaginary sky pixie actually exists and judges us
, perhaps he gives demerits to the sickos who are horny for the end of the world.
Horny is natural unless you're strange.
Horny for sexual relations is natural. Horny for death and destruction is not.
d***@cox.net
2019-02-11 23:59:31 UTC
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Post by Davej
[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we are alone in
the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead civilizations. The theists
in their sick minds look forward longingly to Armageddon.
God will lift his people out of it. Which side are you on?
Your question seems to be addressed to Davej. But my answer is that I am
on the side of sane people who regard the continued existence of life on earth desirable.
So you're limiting life to earth only?
Post by Michael Cole
Suggestion Duke. If your imaginary sky pixie actually exists and judges us
, perhaps he gives demerits to the sickos who are horny for the end of the world.
Horny is natural unless you're strange.
Horny for sexual relations is natural. Horny for death and destruction is not.
I prefer the ladies myself.

The dukester
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2019-02-12 21:58:46 UTC
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[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we are alone in
the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead civilizations. The theists
in their sick minds look forward longingly to Armageddon.
God will lift his people out of it. Which side are you on?
Your question seems to be addressed to Davej. But my answer is that I am
on the side of sane people who regard the continued existence of life on earth desirable.
So you're limiting life to earth only?
Post by Michael Cole
Suggestion Duke. If your imaginary sky pixie actually exists and judges us
, perhaps he gives demerits to the sickos who are horny for the end of the world.
Horny is natural unless you're strange.
Horny for sexual relations is natural. Horny for death and destruction is not.
I prefer the ladies myself.
So you keep telling us. Are you having doubts?
JTEM
2019-02-12 22:11:02 UTC
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So you keep telling us. Are you having doubts?
You didn't adopt this sock puppet in order to
intelligent things, I understand this, but if
your tried to at least post something on topic,
instead of demonstrating how full your emotional
bladder is, you might not look quite so fucked
in the head.

You might.

/Might/.

No promises... nor hopes.







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d***@cox.net
2019-02-14 21:47:53 UTC
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[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we are alone in
the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead civilizations. The theists
in their sick minds look forward longingly to Armageddon.
God will lift his people out of it. Which side are you on?
Your question seems to be addressed to Davej. But my answer is that I am
on the side of sane people who regard the continued existence of life on earth desirable.
So you're limiting life to earth only?
Post by Michael Cole
Suggestion Duke. If your imaginary sky pixie actually exists and judges us
, perhaps he gives demerits to the sickos who are horny for the end of the world.
Horny is natural unless you're strange.
Horny for sexual relations is natural. Horny for death and destruction is not.
I prefer the ladies myself.
So you keep telling us. Are you having doubts?
Nope. Are you?

The dukester
Cloud Hobbit
2019-02-13 22:20:02 UTC
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I prefer the ladies myself.
The dukester


Too bad they only like you after you pay them.
d***@cox.net
2019-02-14 21:48:22 UTC
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I prefer the ladies myself.
Too bad they only like you after you pay them.
Hello, experienced one.

The dukester
tirebiter
2019-02-16 13:53:03 UTC
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[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we are alone in
the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead civilizations. The theists
in their sick minds look forward longingly to Armageddon.
God will lift his people out of it. Which side are you on?
Your question seems to be addressed to Davej. But my answer is that I am
on the side of sane people who regard the continued existence of life on earth desirable.
So you're limiting life to earth only?
Post by Michael Cole
Suggestion Duke. If your imaginary sky pixie actually exists and judges us
, perhaps he gives demerits to the sickos who are horny for the end of the world.
Horny is natural unless you're strange.
Horny for sexual relations is natural. Horny for death and destruction is not.
I prefer the ladies myself.
The dukester
A preference that is not reciprocated, I'm sure.

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Ted
1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC
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[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we are alone in
the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead civilizations. The theists
in their sick minds look forward longingly to Armageddon.
God will lift his people out of it. Which side are you on?
Your question seems to be addressed to Davej. But my answer is that I am
on the side of sane people who regard the continued existence of life
on earth desirable.
So you're limiting life to earth only?
Post by Michael Cole
Suggestion Duke. If your imaginary sky pixie actually exists and judges us
, perhaps he gives demerits to the sickos who are horny for the end of the world.
Horny is natural unless you're strange.
Horny for sexual relations is natural. Horny for death and destruction is not.
I prefer the ladies myself.
The dukester
A preference that is not reciprocated, I'm sure.
That's absolutely certain, as Duke's never had a woman.
d***@cox.net
2019-02-17 18:00:34 UTC
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[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we are alone in
the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead civilizations. The theists
in their sick minds look forward longingly to Armageddon.
God will lift his people out of it. Which side are you on?
Your question seems to be addressed to Davej. But my answer is that I am
on the side of sane people who regard the continued existence of life
on earth desirable.
So you're limiting life to earth only?
Post by Michael Cole
Suggestion Duke. If your imaginary sky pixie actually exists and judges us
, perhaps he gives demerits to the sickos who are horny for the end of the world.
Horny is natural unless you're strange.
Horny for sexual relations is natural. Horny for death and destruction is not.
I prefer the ladies myself.
The dukester
A preference that is not reciprocated, I'm sure.
That's absolutely certain, as Duke's never had a woman.
Are you a peeping tom?

The dukester
Ted
1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC
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[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we are alone in
the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead civilizations. The theists
in their sick minds look forward longingly to Armageddon.
God will lift his people out of it. Which side are you on?
Your question seems to be addressed to Davej. But my answer is that I am
on the side of sane people who regard the continued existence of life
on earth desirable.
So you're limiting life to earth only?
Post by Michael Cole
Suggestion Duke. If your imaginary sky pixie actually exists and judges us
, perhaps he gives demerits to the sickos who are horny for the end of the world.
Horny is natural unless you're strange.
Horny for sexual relations is natural. Horny for death and destruction is not.
I prefer the ladies myself.
The dukester
A preference that is not reciprocated, I'm sure.
That's absolutely certain, as Duke's never had a woman.
Are you a peeping tom?
The dukester
It's okay, Duke. I have a good friend who's never had a long-term
relationship with a woman. People think he's gay but he isn't. Just smart,
IMO.
d***@cox.net
2019-02-19 23:03:55 UTC
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[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we are alone in
the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead civilizations. The theists
in their sick minds look forward longingly to Armageddon.
God will lift his people out of it. Which side are you on?
Your question seems to be addressed to Davej. But my answer is that I am
on the side of sane people who regard the continued existence of life
on earth desirable.
So you're limiting life to earth only?
Post by Michael Cole
Suggestion Duke. If your imaginary sky pixie actually exists and judges us
, perhaps he gives demerits to the sickos who are horny for the end of the world.
Horny is natural unless you're strange.
Horny for sexual relations is natural. Horny for death and destruction is not.
I prefer the ladies myself.
The dukester
A preference that is not reciprocated, I'm sure.
That's absolutely certain, as Duke's never had a woman.
Are you a peeping tom?
The dukester
It's okay, Duke. I have a good friend who's never had a long-term
relationship with a woman. People think he's gay but he isn't. Just smart,
IMO.
I'm not interested in hearing about your problems.

The dukester
Ted
1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC
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[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we are alone in
the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead civilizations. The theists
in their sick minds look forward longingly to Armageddon.
God will lift his people out of it. Which side are you on?
Your question seems to be addressed to Davej. But my answer is that I am
on the side of sane people who regard the continued existence of life
on earth desirable.
So you're limiting life to earth only?
Post by Michael Cole
Suggestion Duke. If your imaginary sky pixie actually exists and judges us
, perhaps he gives demerits to the sickos who are horny for the end of the world.
Horny is natural unless you're strange.
Horny for sexual relations is natural. Horny for death and destruction is not.
I prefer the ladies myself.
The dukester
A preference that is not reciprocated, I'm sure.
That's absolutely certain, as Duke's never had a woman.
Are you a peeping tom?
The dukester
It's okay, Duke. I have a good friend who's never had a long-term
relationship with a woman. People think he's gay but he isn't. Just smart,
IMO.
I'm not interested in hearing about your problems.
The dukester
How is it my problem that you never had a woman?
d***@cox.net
2019-02-20 22:44:33 UTC
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[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we are alone in
the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead civilizations. The theists
in their sick minds look forward longingly to Armageddon.
God will lift his people out of it. Which side are you on?
Your question seems to be addressed to Davej. But my answer is that I am
on the side of sane people who regard the continued existence of life
on earth desirable.
So you're limiting life to earth only?
Post by Michael Cole
Suggestion Duke. If your imaginary sky pixie actually exists and judges us
, perhaps he gives demerits to the sickos who are horny for the end of the world.
Horny is natural unless you're strange.
Horny for sexual relations is natural. Horny for death and destruction is not.
I prefer the ladies myself.
The dukester
A preference that is not reciprocated, I'm sure.
That's absolutely certain, as Duke's never had a woman.
Are you a peeping tom?
The dukester
It's okay, Duke. I have a good friend who's never had a long-term
relationship with a woman. People think he's gay but he isn't. Just smart,
IMO.
I'm not interested in hearing about your problems.
The dukester
How is it my problem that you never had a woman?
How is it my problem that YOU never had a woeman?

the dukester
Ted
1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC
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[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we are alone in
the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead civilizations. The theists
in their sick minds look forward longingly to Armageddon.
God will lift his people out of it. Which side are you on?
Your question seems to be addressed to Davej. But my answer is that I am
on the side of sane people who regard the continued existence of life
on earth desirable.
So you're limiting life to earth only?
Post by Michael Cole
Suggestion Duke. If your imaginary sky pixie actually exists and judges us
, perhaps he gives demerits to the sickos who are horny for the end of the world.
Horny is natural unless you're strange.
Horny for sexual relations is natural. Horny for death and destruction is not.
I prefer the ladies myself.
The dukester
A preference that is not reciprocated, I'm sure.
That's absolutely certain, as Duke's never had a woman.
Are you a peeping tom?
The dukester
It's okay, Duke. I have a good friend who's never had a long-term
relationship with a woman. People think he's gay but he isn't. Just smart,
IMO.
I'm not interested in hearing about your problems.
The dukester
How is it my problem that you never had a woman?
How is it my problem that YOU never had a woeman?
the dukester
<snip> you're welcome
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2019-02-17 18:00:04 UTC
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[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we are alone in
the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead civilizations. The theists
in their sick minds look forward longingly to Armageddon.
God will lift his people out of it. Which side are you on?
Your question seems to be addressed to Davej. But my answer is that I am
on the side of sane people who regard the continued existence of life on earth desirable.
So you're limiting life to earth only?
Post by Michael Cole
Suggestion Duke. If your imaginary sky pixie actually exists and judges us
, perhaps he gives demerits to the sickos who are horny for the end of the world.
Horny is natural unless you're strange.
Horny for sexual relations is natural. Horny for death and destruction is not.
I prefer the ladies myself.
The dukester
A preference that is not reciprocated, I'm sure.
Are you experienced?

The dukester
Peter Pan
2019-02-18 00:13:59 UTC
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On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 08:56:02 -0800 (PST), Michael Cole
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On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 05:44:42 -0800 (PST), Michael Cole
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Post by Davej
[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we are alone in
the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead civilizations. The theists
in their sick minds look forward longingly to Armageddon.
God will lift his people out of it. Which side are you on?
Your question seems to be addressed to Davej. But my answer is that I am
on the side of sane people who regard the continued existence of life on earth desirable.
So you're limiting life to earth only?
Post by Michael Cole
Suggestion Duke. If your imaginary sky pixie actually exists and judges us
, perhaps he gives demerits to the sickos who are horny for the end of the world.
Horny is natural unless you're strange.
Horny for sexual relations is natural. Horny for death and destruction is not.
I prefer the ladies myself.
Keep telling yourself that. Maybe you'll start to believe
it.
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2019-02-19 23:04:37 UTC
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On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 08:56:02 -0800 (PST), Michael Cole
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On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 05:44:42 -0800 (PST), Michael Cole
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Post by Davej
[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we are alone in
the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead civilizations. The theists
in their sick minds look forward longingly to Armageddon.
God will lift his people out of it. Which side are you on?
Your question seems to be addressed to Davej. But my answer is that I am
on the side of sane people who regard the continued existence of life on earth desirable.
So you're limiting life to earth only?
Post by Michael Cole
Suggestion Duke. If your imaginary sky pixie actually exists and judges us
, perhaps he gives demerits to the sickos who are horny for the end of the world.
Horny is natural unless you're strange.
Horny for sexual relations is natural. Horny for death and destruction is not.
I prefer the ladies myself.
Keep telling yourself that. Maybe you'll start to believe
it.
Oh, I know for sure. You're too young to figure your problem out yet.

The dukester
Davej
2019-02-10 17:26:07 UTC
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[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we are
alone in the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead civilizations. The
theists in their sick minds look forward longingly to
Armageddon.
God will lift his people out of it. Which side are you on?
Who will do what? Your cowardly imaginary invisible friend who hides?
d***@cox.net
2019-02-11 23:59:58 UTC
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[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we are
alone in the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead civilizations. The
theists in their sick minds look forward longingly to
Armageddon.
God will lift his people out of it. Which side are you on?
Who will do what? Your cowardly imaginary invisible friend who hides?
God will do it.

The dukester
Yap Honghor
2019-02-11 02:15:00 UTC
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[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we are alone in
the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead civilizations. The theists
in their sick minds look forward longingly to Armageddon.
God will lift his people out of it. Which side are you on?
Fucking liar.......
You sacred book said your pixie unleashed worldwide flood to kill all human.
What stupid lift you are talking about, you sick fat moron!!!!!!!!!!!
d***@cox.net
2019-02-12 00:00:39 UTC
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[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we are alone in
the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead civilizations. The theists
in their sick minds look forward longingly to Armageddon.
God will lift his people out of it. Which side are you on?
Fucking liar.......
You sacred book said your pixie unleashed worldwide flood to kill all human.
What stupid lift you are talking about, you sick fat moron!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, come on, snake. Go find a cobra to diddle.

The dukester
Yap Honghor
2019-02-12 02:28:20 UTC
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On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 18:15:00 -0800 (PST), Yap Honghor
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Post by Davej
[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we are alone in
the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead civilizations. The theists
in their sick minds look forward longingly to Armageddon.
God will lift his people out of it. Which side are you on?
Fucking liar.......
You sacred book said your pixie unleashed worldwide flood to kill all human.
What stupid lift you are talking about, you sick fat moron!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, come on, snake. Go find a cobra to diddle.
Why? You don't have a talking snake?
That means your scripture has conned you right through your heart.......
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The dukester
d***@cox.net
2019-02-12 20:21:16 UTC
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On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 18:15:00 -0800 (PST), Yap Honghor
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by d***@cox.net
Post by Davej
[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we are alone in
the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead civilizations. The theists
in their sick minds look forward longingly to Armageddon.
God will lift his people out of it. Which side are you on?
Fucking liar.......
You sacred book said your pixie unleashed worldwide flood to kill all human.
What stupid lift you are talking about, you sick fat moron!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, come on, snake. Go find a cobra to diddle.
Why? You don't have a talking snake?
Uh, no, no I don't.
Post by Yap Honghor
That means your scripture has conned you right through your heart.......
I'm not the one conned. I know there are no talking snakes, or
donkeys for that matter.
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The dukester
The dukester
Yap Honghor
2019-02-13 10:36:37 UTC
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On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 18:15:00 -0800 (PST), Yap Honghor
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by d***@cox.net
Post by Davej
[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we are alone in
the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead civilizations. The theists
in their sick minds look forward longingly to Armageddon.
God will lift his people out of it. Which side are you on?
Fucking liar.......
You sacred book said your pixie unleashed worldwide flood to kill all human.
What stupid lift you are talking about, you sick fat moron!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, come on, snake. Go find a cobra to diddle.
Why? You don't have a talking snake?
Uh, no, no I don't.
Why can't you lie, as per your scripture?
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Post by Yap Honghor
That means your scripture has conned you right through your heart.......
I'm not the one conned. I know there are no talking snakes, or
donkeys for that matter.
Your scripture said there was a talking snake, why should you disbelieve?????
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The dukester
The dukester
d***@cox.net
2019-02-14 21:50:01 UTC
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Post by Yap Honghor
Post by d***@cox.net
Post by Davej
[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we are alone in
the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead civilizations. The theists
in their sick minds look forward longingly to Armageddon.
God will lift his people out of it. Which side are you on?
Fucking liar.......
You sacred book said your pixie unleashed worldwide flood to kill all human.
What stupid lift you are talking about, you sick fat moron!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, come on, snake. Go find a cobra to diddle.
Why? You don't have a talking snake?
Uh, no, no I don't.
Why can't you lie, as per your scripture?
God called us not to lie.
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by d***@cox.net
Post by Yap Honghor
That means your scripture has conned you right through your heart.......
I'm not the one conned. I know there are no talking snakes, or
donkeys for that matter.
Your scripture said there was a talking snake, why should you disbelieve?????
I fully understand the message. You don't.


The dukester
Mitchell Holman
2019-02-15 03:18:23 UTC
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On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 18:15:00 -0800 (PST), Yap Honghor
Post by Yap Honghor
On Sat, 9 Feb 2019 09:19:18 -0800 (PST), Davej
Post by Davej
[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we are
alone in the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead civilizations. The
theists in their sick minds look forward longingly to
Armageddon.
God will lift his people out of it. Which side are you on?
Fucking liar.......
You sacred book said your pixie unleashed worldwide flood to
kill all human. What stupid lift you are talking about, you sick
fat moron!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, come on, snake. Go find a cobra to diddle.
Why? You don't have a talking snake?
Uh, no, no I don't.
Why can't you lie, as per your scripture?
God called us not to lie.
So why do you?


"Of course evolution is addressed in the bible."
Duke (Earl Weber) May 20, 2018
http://tinyurl.com/ybewfy2o
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2019-02-15 21:21:59 UTC
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On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 18:28:20 -0800 (PST), Yap Honghor
Post by Yap Honghor
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On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 18:15:00 -0800 (PST), Yap Honghor
Post by Yap Honghor
On Sat, 9 Feb 2019 09:19:18 -0800 (PST), Davej
Post by Davej
[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we are
alone in the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead civilizations. The
theists in their sick minds look forward longingly to
Armageddon.
God will lift his people out of it. Which side are you on?
Fucking liar.......
You sacred book said your pixie unleashed worldwide flood to
kill all human. What stupid lift you are talking about, you sick
fat moron!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, come on, snake. Go find a cobra to diddle.
Why? You don't have a talking snake?
Uh, no, no I don't.
Why can't you lie, as per your scripture?
God called us not to lie.
So why do you?
I don't. See how simple that is.
Post by Mitchell Holman
"Of course evolution is addressed in the bible."
Duke (Earl Weber) May 20, 2018
http://tinyurl.com/ybewfy2o
Yep, that's the way all things got the way they are today.

One day you were a one-cell rat at conception, and today you are a multi cell
human being (I assume). That's evolution.

The dukester
Tim
2019-02-15 12:13:06 UTC
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On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 18:15:00 -0800 (PST), Yap Honghor
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by d***@cox.net
Post by Davej
[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we are alone in
the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead civilizations. The theists
in their sick minds look forward longingly to Armageddon.
God will lift his people out of it. Which side are you on?
Fucking liar.......
You sacred book said your pixie unleashed worldwide flood to kill all human.
What stupid lift you are talking about, you sick fat moron!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, come on, snake. Go find a cobra to diddle.
Why? You don't have a talking snake?
Uh, no, no I don't.
Why can't you lie, as per your scripture?
God called us not to lie.
And you can't stop lying, fat fake christer.
Post by d***@cox.net
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by d***@cox.net
Post by Yap Honghor
That means your scripture has conned you right through your heart.......
I'm not the one conned. I know there are no talking snakes, or
donkeys for that matter.
Your scripture said there was a talking snake, why should you disbelieve?????
I fully understand the message. You don't.
You don't have a fucking clue, bomb, bomb, bomb the bridge earl.
d***@cox.net
2019-02-15 21:23:06 UTC
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On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 18:15:00 -0800 (PST), Yap Honghor
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by d***@cox.net
Post by Davej
[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we are alone in
the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead civilizations. The theists
in their sick minds look forward longingly to Armageddon.
God will lift his people out of it. Which side are you on?
Fucking liar.......
You sacred book said your pixie unleashed worldwide flood to kill all human.
What stupid lift you are talking about, you sick fat moron!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, come on, snake. Go find a cobra to diddle.
Why? You don't have a talking snake?
Uh, no, no I don't.
Why can't you lie, as per your scripture?
God called us not to lie.
And you can't stop lying, fat fake christer.
I never lie, so I don't have to stop.
Post by Tim
Post by d***@cox.net
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by d***@cox.net
Post by Yap Honghor
That means your scripture has conned you right through your heart.......
I'm not the one conned. I know there are no talking snakes, or
donkeys for that matter.
Your scripture said there was a talking snake, why should you disbelieve?????
I fully understand the message. You don't.
You don't have a fucking clue, bomb, bomb, bomb the bridge earl.
Yep, then nobody can use it to illegally come into the US.

The dukester
Mitchell Holman
2019-02-16 02:12:55 UTC
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Post by Yap Honghor
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On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 18:15:00 -0800 (PST), Yap Honghor
Post by Yap Honghor
On Sat, 9 Feb 2019 09:19:18 -0800 (PST), Davej
On Saturday, February 9, 2019 at 10:30:53 AM UTC-6,
[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we are
alone in the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead civilizations.
The theists in their sick minds look forward longingly to
Armageddon.
God will lift his people out of it. Which side are you on?
Fucking liar.......
You sacred book said your pixie unleashed worldwide flood to
kill all human. What stupid lift you are talking about, you
sick fat moron!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, come on, snake. Go find a cobra to diddle.
Why? You don't have a talking snake?
Uh, no, no I don't.
Why can't you lie, as per your scripture?
God called us not to lie.
And you can't stop lying, fat fake christer.
I never lie
You don't say.





And God said "man is free to choose".
"Duke", Sept 5 2017
http://tinyurl.com/yabmobna
That quote is not in the Bible.
d***@cox.net
2019-02-17 18:01:21 UTC
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Post by Yap Honghor
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On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 18:15:00 -0800 (PST), Yap Honghor
Post by Yap Honghor
On Sat, 9 Feb 2019 09:19:18 -0800 (PST), Davej
On Saturday, February 9, 2019 at 10:30:53 AM UTC-6,
[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we are
alone in the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead civilizations.
The theists in their sick minds look forward longingly to
Armageddon.
God will lift his people out of it. Which side are you on?
Fucking liar.......
You sacred book said your pixie unleashed worldwide flood to
kill all human. What stupid lift you are talking about, you
sick fat moron!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, come on, snake. Go find a cobra to diddle.
Why? You don't have a talking snake?
Uh, no, no I don't.
Why can't you lie, as per your scripture?
God called us not to lie.
And you can't stop lying, fat fake christer.
I never lie
You don't say.
No, I do say: I never lie on the ng.

The dukester
Mitchell Holman
2019-02-17 19:07:11 UTC
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On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 02:36:37 -0800 (PST), Yap Honghor
Post by Yap Honghor
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On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 18:28:20 -0800 (PST), Yap Honghor
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by d***@cox.net
On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 18:15:00 -0800 (PST), Yap Honghor
Post by Yap Honghor
On Sat, 9 Feb 2019 09:19:18 -0800 (PST), Davej
On Saturday, February 9, 2019 at 10:30:53 AM UTC-6,
[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we
are alone in the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead
civilizations. The theists in their sick minds look
forward longingly to Armageddon.
God will lift his people out of it. Which side are you on?
Fucking liar.......
You sacred book said your pixie unleashed worldwide flood
to kill all human. What stupid lift you are talking about,
you sick fat moron!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, come on, snake. Go find a cobra to diddle.
Why? You don't have a talking snake?
Uh, no, no I don't.
Why can't you lie, as per your scripture?
God called us not to lie.
And you can't stop lying, fat fake christer.
I never lie
You don't say.
No, I do say: I never lie on the ng.
Of course you do.




"God is very clear about abortion being murder."
"Duke", unproven claim, 1/23/17


There is no quote from god even mentioning abortion.
Don Martin
2019-02-17 20:06:26 UTC
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Post by Tim
On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 02:36:37 -0800 (PST), Yap Honghor
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by d***@cox.net
On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 18:28:20 -0800 (PST), Yap Honghor
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by d***@cox.net
On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 18:15:00 -0800 (PST), Yap Honghor
Post by Yap Honghor
On Sat, 9 Feb 2019 09:19:18 -0800 (PST), Davej
On Saturday, February 9, 2019 at 10:30:53 AM UTC-6,
[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we
are alone in the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead
civilizations. The theists in their sick minds look
forward longingly to Armageddon.
God will lift his people out of it. Which side are you on?
Fucking liar.......
You sacred book said your pixie unleashed worldwide flood
to kill all human. What stupid lift you are talking about,
you sick fat moron!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, come on, snake. Go find a cobra to diddle.
Why? You don't have a talking snake?
Uh, no, no I don't.
Why can't you lie, as per your scripture?
God called us not to lie.
And you can't stop lying, fat fake christer.
I never lie
You don't say.
No, I do say: I never lie on the ng.
Of course you do.
"God is very clear about abortion being murder."
"Duke", unproven claim, 1/23/17
There is no quote from god even mentioning abortion.
Why not mention his most sweeping lie, "I never lie on the ng."
--
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
Je pense, donc je suis Charlie.
Robert Carnegie
2019-02-17 20:51:57 UTC
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Post by Tim
On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 02:36:37 -0800 (PST), Yap Honghor
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by d***@cox.net
On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 18:28:20 -0800 (PST), Yap Honghor
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by d***@cox.net
On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 18:15:00 -0800 (PST), Yap Honghor
Post by Yap Honghor
On Sat, 9 Feb 2019 09:19:18 -0800 (PST), Davej
On Saturday, February 9, 2019 at 10:30:53 AM UTC-6,
[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we
are alone in the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead
civilizations. The theists in their sick minds look
forward longingly to Armageddon.
God will lift his people out of it. Which side are you on?
Fucking liar.......
You sacred book said your pixie unleashed worldwide flood
to kill all human. What stupid lift you are talking about,
you sick fat moron!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, come on, snake. Go find a cobra to diddle.
Why? You don't have a talking snake?
Uh, no, no I don't.
Why can't you lie, as per your scripture?
God called us not to lie.
And you can't stop lying, fat fake christer.
I never lie
You don't say.
No, I do say: I never lie on the ng.
Of course you do.
"God is very clear about abortion being murder."
"Duke", unproven claim, 1/23/17
There is no quote from god even mentioning abortion.
Why not mention his most sweeping lie, "I never lie on the ng."
Oh, I thought he said, "I never lie on the rug."

I don't take his word for that either.
d***@cox.net
2019-02-19 23:07:01 UTC
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Post by Mitchell Holman
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Post by Tim
On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 02:36:37 -0800 (PST), Yap Honghor
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by d***@cox.net
On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 18:28:20 -0800 (PST), Yap Honghor
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by d***@cox.net
On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 18:15:00 -0800 (PST), Yap Honghor
Post by Yap Honghor
On Sat, 9 Feb 2019 09:19:18 -0800 (PST), Davej
On Saturday, February 9, 2019 at 10:30:53 AM UTC-6,
[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we
are alone in the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead
civilizations. The theists in their sick minds look
forward longingly to Armageddon.
God will lift his people out of it. Which side are you
on?
Fucking liar.......
You sacred book said your pixie unleashed worldwide flood
to kill all human. What stupid lift you are talking about,
you sick fat moron!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, come on, snake. Go find a cobra to diddle.
Why? You don't have a talking snake?
Uh, no, no I don't.
Why can't you lie, as per your scripture?
God called us not to lie.
And you can't stop lying, fat fake christer.
I never lie
You don't say.
No, I do say: I never lie on the ng.
Of course you do.
"God is very clear about abortion being murder."
"Duke", unproven claim, 1/23/17
There is no quote from god even mentioning abortion.
Why not mention his most sweeping lie, "I never lie on the ng."
Oh, I thought he said, "I never lie on the rug."
I don't take his word for that either.
So you lie on the rug?

The dukester
d***@cox.net
2019-02-19 23:06:18 UTC
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Post by Tim
On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 02:36:37 -0800 (PST), Yap Honghor
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by d***@cox.net
On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 18:28:20 -0800 (PST), Yap Honghor
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by d***@cox.net
On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 18:15:00 -0800 (PST), Yap Honghor
Post by Yap Honghor
On Sat, 9 Feb 2019 09:19:18 -0800 (PST), Davej
On Saturday, February 9, 2019 at 10:30:53 AM UTC-6,
[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we
are alone in the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead
civilizations. The theists in their sick minds look
forward longingly to Armageddon.
God will lift his people out of it. Which side are you on?
Fucking liar.......
You sacred book said your pixie unleashed worldwide flood
to kill all human. What stupid lift you are talking about,
you sick fat moron!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, come on, snake. Go find a cobra to diddle.
Why? You don't have a talking snake?
Uh, no, no I don't.
Why can't you lie, as per your scripture?
God called us not to lie.
And you can't stop lying, fat fake christer.
I never lie
You don't say.
No, I do say: I never lie on the ng.
Of course you do.
"God is very clear about abortion being murder."
"Duke", unproven claim, 1/23/17
There is no quote from god even mentioning abortion.
Why not mention his most sweeping lie, "I never lie on the ng."
God said "thou shall not kill". And abortion is killing for one's comfort and
convenience.

The dukester
Mitchell Holman
2019-02-20 02:50:02 UTC
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Post by Mitchell Holman
On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 04:13:06 -0800 (PST), Tim
Post by Tim
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Post by Yap Honghor
Post by d***@cox.net
On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 18:28:20 -0800 (PST), Yap Honghor
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by d***@cox.net
On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 18:15:00 -0800 (PST), Yap Honghor
Post by Yap Honghor
On Sat, 9 Feb 2019 09:19:18 -0800 (PST), Davej
On Saturday, February 9, 2019 at 10:30:53 AM UTC-6,
[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume
we are alone in the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead
civilizations. The theists in their sick minds look
forward longingly to Armageddon.
God will lift his people out of it. Which side are you on?
Fucking liar.......
You sacred book said your pixie unleashed worldwide
flood to kill all human. What stupid lift you are
talking about, you sick fat moron!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, come on, snake. Go find a cobra to diddle.
Why? You don't have a talking snake?
Uh, no, no I don't.
Why can't you lie, as per your scripture?
God called us not to lie.
And you can't stop lying, fat fake christer.
I never lie
You don't say.
No, I do say: I never lie on the ng.
Of course you do.
"God is very clear about abortion being murder."
"Duke", unproven claim, 1/23/17
There is no quote from god even mentioning abortion.
Why not mention his most sweeping lie, "I never lie on the ng."
God said "thou shall not kill".
So the fable goes.
And abortion is killing for one's
comfort and convenience.
God didn't say that.
d***@cox.net
2019-02-20 22:46:37 UTC
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Post by Don Martin
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by d***@cox.net
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by d***@cox.net
I never lie
You don't say.
No, I do say: I never lie on the ng.
Of course you do.
"God is very clear about abortion being murder."
"Duke", unproven claim, 1/23/17
There is no quote from god even mentioning abortion.
Why not mention his most sweeping lie, "I never lie on the ng."
God said "thou shall not kill".
So the fable goes.
So you are eligible to burn because you believe in murdering the unborn.
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by d***@cox.net
And abortion is killing for one's
comfort and convenience.
God didn't say that.
He said "do not kill". You don't care.
the dukester
Mitchell Holman
2019-02-21 02:40:31 UTC
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Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by d***@cox.net
Post by Don Martin
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by d***@cox.net
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by d***@cox.net
I never lie
You don't say.
No, I do say: I never lie on the ng.
Of course you do.
"God is very clear about abortion being murder."
"Duke", unproven claim, 1/23/17
There is no quote from god even mentioning abortion.
Why not mention his most sweeping lie, "I never lie on the ng."
God said "thou shall not kill".
So the fable goes.
So you are eligible to burn because you believe in murdering the unborn.
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by d***@cox.net
And abortion is killing for one's
comfort and convenience.
God didn't say that.
He said "do not kill". You don't care.
Just back up your claim.
d***@cox.net
2019-02-21 23:18:26 UTC
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On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 20:50:02 -0600, Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by d***@cox.net
Post by Don Martin
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by d***@cox.net
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by d***@cox.net
I never lie
You don't say.
No, I do say: I never lie on the ng.
Of course you do.
"God is very clear about abortion being murder."
"Duke", unproven claim, 1/23/17
There is no quote from god even mentioning abortion.
Why not mention his most sweeping lie, "I never lie on the ng."
God said "thou shall not kill".
So the fable goes.
So you are eligible to burn because you believe in murdering the unborn.
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by d***@cox.net
And abortion is killing for one's
comfort and convenience.
God didn't say that.
He said "do not kill". You don't care.
Just back up your claim.
It's one of the 10 commandments.

the dukester
Ted
1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC
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Post by Mitchell Holman
On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 20:50:02 -0600, Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by d***@cox.net
Post by Don Martin
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by d***@cox.net
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by d***@cox.net
I never lie
You don't say.
No, I do say: I never lie on the ng.
Of course you do.
"God is very clear about abortion being murder."
"Duke", unproven claim, 1/23/17
There is no quote from god even mentioning abortion.
Why not mention his most sweeping lie, "I never lie on the ng."
God said "thou shall not kill".
So the fable goes.
So you are eligible to burn because you believe in murdering the unborn.
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by d***@cox.net
And abortion is killing for one's
comfort and convenience.
God didn't say that.
He said "do not kill". You don't care.
Just back up your claim.
It's one of the 10 commandments.
the dukester
There were originally 15.
d***@cox.net
2019-02-26 23:30:28 UTC
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On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 20:50:02 -0600, Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by d***@cox.net
Post by Don Martin
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by d***@cox.net
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by d***@cox.net
I never lie
You don't say.
No, I do say: I never lie on the ng.
Of course you do.
"God is very clear about abortion being murder."
"Duke", unproven claim, 1/23/17
There is no quote from god even mentioning abortion.
Why not mention his most sweeping lie, "I never lie on the ng."
God said "thou shall not kill".
So the fable goes.
So you are eligible to burn because you believe in murdering the unborn.
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by d***@cox.net
And abortion is killing for one's
comfort and convenience.
God didn't say that.
He said "do not kill". You don't care.
Just back up your claim.
It's one of the 10 commandments.
the dukester
There were originally 15.
10. Scripture says the 2nd set says exactly the same thing that the original
set revealed.

Taadaaaaaa.

the dukester
Ted
1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC
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On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 20:50:02 -0600, Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by d***@cox.net
Post by Don Martin
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by d***@cox.net
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by d***@cox.net
I never lie
You don't say.
No, I do say: I never lie on the ng.
Of course you do.
"God is very clear about abortion being murder."
"Duke", unproven claim, 1/23/17
There is no quote from god even mentioning abortion.
Why not mention his most sweeping lie, "I never lie on the ng."
God said "thou shall not kill".
So the fable goes.
So you are eligible to burn because you believe in murdering the unborn.
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by d***@cox.net
And abortion is killing for one's
comfort and convenience.
God didn't say that.
He said "do not kill". You don't care.
Just back up your claim.
It's one of the 10 commandments.
the dukester
There were originally 15.
10. Scripture says the 2nd set says exactly the same thing that the original
set revealed.
Taadaaaaaa.
the dukester
There was only one set of 15 until Moses dropped one of the three stone
slabs he was carrying. Some say he dropped it in purpose.
Robert Carnegie
2019-02-22 09:32:57 UTC
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On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 20:50:02 -0600, Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by d***@cox.net
Post by Don Martin
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by d***@cox.net
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by d***@cox.net
I never lie
You don't say.
No, I do say: I never lie on the ng.
Of course you do.
"God is very clear about abortion being murder."
"Duke", unproven claim, 1/23/17
There is no quote from god even mentioning abortion.
Why not mention his most sweeping lie, "I never lie on the ng."
God said "thou shall not kill".
So the fable goes.
So you are eligible to burn because you believe in murdering the unborn.
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by d***@cox.net
And abortion is killing for one's
comfort and convenience.
God didn't say that.
He said "do not kill". You don't care.
Just back up your claim.
It's one of the 10 commandments.
the dukester
I think we've covered that the bible describes
an appropriate procedure to perform an abortion.
Of course this is when a man wants one, not a woman.
<https://atheist.ie/2018/04/what-does-the-bible-say-about-abortion/>

Also, God in bible stories often orders people
to kill other people - including babies - and he
often does it himself. As for killing animals,
he loves it, ever since Cain and Abel; you may
remember than Cain invented "Harvest Festival"
with crops and God didn't like it. The "commandment"
bit must mean something like "Don't kill anybody
unless it is legal."
d***@cox.net
2019-02-26 23:28:37 UTC
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On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 20:50:02 -0600, Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by d***@cox.net
Post by Don Martin
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by d***@cox.net
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by d***@cox.net
I never lie
You don't say.
No, I do say: I never lie on the ng.
Of course you do.
"God is very clear about abortion being murder."
"Duke", unproven claim, 1/23/17
There is no quote from god even mentioning abortion.
Why not mention his most sweeping lie, "I never lie on the ng."
God said "thou shall not kill".
So the fable goes.
So you are eligible to burn because you believe in murdering the unborn.
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by d***@cox.net
And abortion is killing for one's
comfort and convenience.
God didn't say that.
He said "do not kill". You don't care.
Just back up your claim.
It's one of the 10 commandments.
the dukester
I think we've covered that the bible describes
an appropriate procedure to perform an abortion.
Of course this is when a man wants one, not a woman.
<https://atheist.ie/2018/04/what-does-the-bible-say-about-abortion/>
Possible, but not outside of murder.
Post by Robert Carnegie
Also, God in bible stories often orders people
to kill other people - including babies - and he
often does it himself.
NO. God did not do that. Man wrote all this via dreams and inspirations. We
know that old time man thought God was with them in successful battle and
agailnst them in failure. Thus some old timer writing inspired scripture is
totally outside the input of accurate guidance form God.

As for killing animals,
Post by Robert Carnegie
he loves it, ever since Cain and Abel; you may
remember than Cain invented "Harvest Festival"
with crops and God didn't like it. The "commandment"
bit must mean something like "Don't kill anybody
unless it is legal."
Wrong. Man is an evil creature and called by God to clean up our act.

the dukester
Ted
1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC
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On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 20:50:02 -0600, Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by d***@cox.net
Post by Don Martin
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by d***@cox.net
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by d***@cox.net
I never lie
You don't say.
No, I do say: I never lie on the ng.
Of course you do.
"God is very clear about abortion being murder."
"Duke", unproven claim, 1/23/17
There is no quote from god even mentioning abortion.
Why not mention his most sweeping lie, "I never lie on the ng."
God said "thou shall not kill".
So the fable goes.
So you are eligible to burn because you believe in murdering the unborn.
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by d***@cox.net
And abortion is killing for one's
comfort and convenience.
God didn't say that.
He said "do not kill". You don't care.
Just back up your claim.
It's one of the 10 commandments.
the dukester
I think we've covered that the bible describes
an appropriate procedure to perform an abortion.
Of course this is when a man wants one, not a woman.
<https://atheist.ie/2018/04/what-does-the-bible-say-about-abortion/>
Possible, but not outside of murder.
Post by Robert Carnegie
Also, God in bible stories often orders people
to kill other people - including babies - and he
often does it himself.
NO. God did not do that. Man wrote all this via dreams and inspirations. We
know that old time man thought God was with them in successful battle and
agailnst them in failure. Thus some old timer writing inspired scripture is
totally outside the input of accurate guidance form God.
As for killing animals,
Post by Robert Carnegie
he loves it, ever since Cain and Abel; you may
remember than Cain invented "Harvest Festival"
with crops and God didn't like it. The "commandment"
bit must mean something like "Don't kill anybody
unless it is legal."
Wrong. Man is an evil creature and called by God to clean up our act.
the dukester
And not lie, right?
d***@cox.net
2019-02-19 23:05:03 UTC
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Post by Tim
On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 02:36:37 -0800 (PST), Yap Honghor
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by d***@cox.net
On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 18:28:20 -0800 (PST), Yap Honghor
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by d***@cox.net
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Post by Yap Honghor
On Sat, 9 Feb 2019 09:19:18 -0800 (PST), Davej
On Saturday, February 9, 2019 at 10:30:53 AM UTC-6,
[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we
are alone in the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead
civilizations. The theists in their sick minds look
forward longingly to Armageddon.
God will lift his people out of it. Which side are you on?
Fucking liar.......
You sacred book said your pixie unleashed worldwide flood
to kill all human. What stupid lift you are talking about,
you sick fat moron!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, come on, snake. Go find a cobra to diddle.
Why? You don't have a talking snake?
Uh, no, no I don't.
Why can't you lie, as per your scripture?
God called us not to lie.
And you can't stop lying, fat fake christer.
I never lie
You don't say.
No, I do say: I never lie on the ng.
Of course you do.
So name one lie.

The dukester
Yap Honghor
2019-02-16 09:26:02 UTC
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Post by d***@cox.net
On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 18:15:00 -0800 (PST), Yap Honghor
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by d***@cox.net
Post by Davej
[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we are alone in
the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead civilizations. The theists
in their sick minds look forward longingly to Armageddon.
God will lift his people out of it. Which side are you on?
Fucking liar.......
You sacred book said your pixie unleashed worldwide flood to kill all human.
What stupid lift you are talking about, you sick fat moron!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, come on, snake. Go find a cobra to diddle.
Why? You don't have a talking snake?
Uh, no, no I don't.
Why can't you lie, as per your scripture?
God called us not to lie.
Which is more serious? Lie or molest?
You mean your pixie wanted all the priests to molest or sexual assault?
Post by d***@cox.net
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by d***@cox.net
Post by Yap Honghor
That means your scripture has conned you right through your heart.......
I'm not the one conned. I know there are no talking snakes, or
donkeys for that matter.
Your scripture said there was a talking snake, why should you disbelieve?????
I fully understand the message. You don't.
You can't even solve pump problem...fake engineer.
d***@cox.net
2019-02-17 18:03:46 UTC
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Post by Yap Honghor
Post by d***@cox.net
On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 18:15:00 -0800 (PST), Yap Honghor
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by d***@cox.net
Post by Davej
[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we are alone in
the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead civilizations. The theists
in their sick minds look forward longingly to Armageddon.
God will lift his people out of it. Which side are you on?
Fucking liar.......
You sacred book said your pixie unleashed worldwide flood to kill all human.
What stupid lift you are talking about, you sick fat moron!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, come on, snake. Go find a cobra to diddle.
Why? You don't have a talking snake?
Uh, no, no I don't.
Why can't you lie, as per your scripture?
God called us not to lie.
Which is more serious? Lie or molest?
You mean your pixie wanted all the priests to molest or sexual assault?
Have you ever had sex your cobra? And did the cobra enjoy it?
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by d***@cox.net
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by d***@cox.net
Post by Yap Honghor
That means your scripture has conned you right through your heart.......
I'm not the one conned. I know there are no talking snakes, or
donkeys for that matter.
Your scripture said there was a talking snake, why should you disbelieve?????
I fully understand the message. You don't.
You can't even solve pump problem...fake engineer.
You don't know.

The dukester
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2019-02-12 21:54:07 UTC
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[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we are alone in
the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead civilizations. The theists
in their sick minds look forward longingly to Armageddon.
God will lift his people out of it. Which side are you on?
How do you know what your fictional god will do? Maybe it would just destroy
all life, including its flawed humans, and start all over.
d***@cox.net
2019-02-14 21:51:33 UTC
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[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we are alone in
the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead civilizations. The theists
in their sick minds look forward longingly to Armageddon.
God will lift his people out of it. Which side are you on?
How do you know what your fictional god will do?
He's already answered that question.
Post by m***@gmail.com
Maybe it would just destroy
all life, including its flawed humans, and start all over.
God already thought about that, and didn't follow thru. He knew that with his
help we would come thru as he wants.

Well, some of us would, but not all.

The dukester
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2019-02-27 01:06:56 UTC
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[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we are alone in
the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead civilizations. The theists
in their sick minds look forward longingly to Armageddon.
God will lift his people out of it. Which side are you on?
The children.
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2019-02-27 01:10:41 UTC
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[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we are alone in
the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead civilizations. The theists
in their sick minds look forward longingly to Armageddon.
God will lift his people out of it. Which side are you on?
The children.
those days are gone and they ain't coming back
Ron Dean
2019-02-16 19:19:53 UTC
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[...]"Is it arrogant [or stupid] for us to assume we are alone in
the universe?"
Perhaps the universe is littered with dead civilizations. The theists
in their sick minds look forward longingly to Armageddon.
This is idiot no one looks forward to Armageddon or the end times.
Robert Carnegie
2019-02-09 22:30:45 UTC
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Hi all. I thought I would share a cranky observation about the way media likes to dumb down everything. On one of the news shows this morning they interviewed a scientist who argued that the weird space rock Oumuama that recently passed through our solar system was evidence of intelligent alien life. So they made a big deal of having the audience answer a poll question "Is it arrogant for us to assume we are alone in the universe?" I find the stupidity of the question annoying. What the hell does human ego have to do with a factual question about the universe?
I have no interest in being arrogant or humble when considering a question of fact. Putting aside the question of arrogance, I think it is STUPID to assume we are alone in the universe and equally stupid to assume we are not. I could make all kinds of cogent arguments that the sequence of events that led to the evolution of complex life on earth was sufficiently serendipitous, it could be a once-in-a-universe happening. But then we must consider different ways complex life could evolve and on that we can only speculate in the dark. My guess, which is as worthless as anyone else's, is that simple life such as photosynthetic bacteria may be fairly common and more complex life much rarer. How rare? Well, now you've got me guessing.
Me too. But tell me, which of the news shows
has an audience there? And morning news too...
you have to /really/ like news to get up, get
dressed, and go to the TV studio and /watch/ it.

And how many of the audience knows what "arrogant"
means? Especially at that time of day... I think
people would take it just to mean "Are humans the
only intelligent life in the universe?" Probably
leaving out God and angels and such, yes?

Do I know about alien life? No. I have been told
and I accept that for five-sixths of Earth's existence
do far, various types of slime were the only things
alive. So maybe most planets get slime but most of
them don't get past that. Then again, other planets
around the Sun seem to give little hope even of finding
slime.

I don't know, and if I thought I did, that would indeed
be stupid, and arrogant to think that my own stupid ideas
were credible, and stupid to be arrogant.

Scientists who investigate such things have a much better
chance of providing a valid answer. That would not
be arrogant, but there doesn't seem to be a conclusion.

But perhaps it is arrogant to believe that scientists
who know the answer will tell the rest of us.
Kurt Nicklas
2019-02-10 11:02:42 UTC
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Hi all.
...
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I could make all kinds of cogent arguments...
That would be a first.
Michael Cole
2019-02-10 14:12:21 UTC
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Hi all.
...
Post by Michael Cole
I could make all kinds of cogent arguments...
That would be a first.
Oho. Silly Kurt Niklas. No substantive response to my post?
Kurt Nicklas
2019-02-10 17:48:47 UTC
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Hi all.
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I could make all kinds of cogent arguments...
That would be a first.
Oho. Silly Kurt Niklas. No substantive response to my post?
As substantive as appropriate.

Try again?
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2019-02-12 21:50:49 UTC
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I could make all kinds of cogent arguments...
That would be a first.
Kurt Nick Alas has yet to make even one cogent argument about anything.
Christopher A. Lee
2019-02-12 22:27:12 UTC
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I could make all kinds of cogent arguments...
That would be a first.
Kurt Nick Alas has yet to make even one cogent argument about anything.
Aka "Sansculottes" - French for "knickerless".
Kurt Nicklas
2019-02-13 09:04:20 UTC
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I could make all kinds of cogent arguments...
That would be a first.
Kurt Nick Alas has yet to make even one cogent argument about anything.
Aka "Sansculottes" - French for "knickerless".
Sez CHRISTopher who lacks the balls to address me directly.

Poor baby.
Yap Honghor
2019-02-13 10:42:03 UTC
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I could make all kinds of cogent arguments...
That would be a first.
Kurt Nick Alas has yet to make even one cogent argument about anything.
Aka "Sansculottes" - French for "knickerless".
Sez CHRISTopher who lacks the balls to address me directly.
A sane person discussing anything with an insane troll like Cunt?
Why should he waste all the energy and gets nothing?
Kurt Nicklas
2019-02-13 12:40:13 UTC
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Post by Michael Cole
I could make all kinds of cogent arguments...
That would be a first.
Kurt Nick Alas has yet to make even one cogent argument about anything.
Aka "Sansculottes" - French for "knickerless".
Sez CHRISTopher who lacks the balls to address me directly.
A sane person discussing anything with an insane troll like Cunt?
Why should he waste all the energy and gets nothing?
So finally you admit you're insane, Yapps.

Thanks for laugh!
Yap Honghor
2019-02-14 09:44:04 UTC
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I could make all kinds of cogent arguments...
That would be a first.
Kurt Nick Alas has yet to make even one cogent argument about anything.
Aka "Sansculottes" - French for "knickerless".
Sez CHRISTopher who lacks the balls to address me directly.
A sane person discussing anything with an insane troll like Cunt?
Why should he waste all the energy and gets nothing?
So finally you admit you're insane, Yapps.
Oh, you can't read as well?
I said you are an insane troll....please reread my post!
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Thanks for laugh!
Christopher A. Lee
2019-02-13 15:44:44 UTC
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Post by Michael Cole
I could make all kinds of cogent arguments...
That would be a first.
Kurt Nick Alas has yet to make even one cogent argument about anything.
Aka "Sansculottes" - French for "knickerless".
Dickens uses the word in A Tale of Two Cities. It describes the crowd
of poor (mostly women) watching and cheering the execution of the
hated aristos by the Guillotine.
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Sez CHRISTopher who lacks the balls to address me directly.
The moron pretends that he doesn't understand the concept of children
being named out of respect for elderly relatives.

He must be one of those Tea Party loonies who lied that Barack Obama
was a Muslim.
Post by Yap Honghor
A sane person discussing anything with an insane troll like Cunt?
Why should he waste all the energy and gets nothing?
The proven serial liar knows he has been killfiled, so I only see
people's responses to him. I don't talk to him, I talk _about_ him and
the other killfiled psychotics, with other atheists.

Because he has made himself the issue here.

So why can't he stop lying about this?
Kurt Nicklas
2019-02-13 17:56:36 UTC
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Post by Michael Cole
I could make all kinds of cogent arguments...
That would be a first.
Kurt Nick Alas has yet to make even one cogent argument about anything.
Aka "Sansculottes" - French for "knickerless".
Dickens uses the word in A Tale of Two Cities. It describes the crowd
of poor (mostly women) watching and cheering the execution of the
hated aristos by the Guillotine.
And that all has what to do with your cowardice keeping you from addressing me directly, CHRISTopher.
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Sez CHRISTopher who lacks the balls to address me directly.
The moron pretends that he doesn't understand the concept of children
being named out of respect for elderly relatives.
I'm "pretending" nothing of the sort. I call you "CHRISTopher" for quite another reason which you know very well.
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He must be one of those Tea Party loonies who lied that Barack Obama
was a Muslim.
I will confess to referring to him as 'B. Hussein Obama' and watching your ilk spit and fume about it.
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Post by Yap Honghor
A sane person discussing anything with an insane troll like Cunt?
Why should he waste all the energy and gets nothing?
The proven serial liar knows he has been killfiled, so I only see
people's responses to him.
I know you are too afraid to talk to me directly because you know you can't keep up.

It's obvious.

I don't talk to him, I talk _about_ him and
Post by Christopher A. Lee
the other killfiled psychotics, with other atheists.
It's just one more pretence, of course. You couldn't live without them.
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Because he has made himself the issue here.
You're a coward, CHRISTopher. You have always been a coward. You're simply incapable of dealing with people who disagree with you.
Post by Christopher A. Lee
So why can't he stop lying about this?
Do you need 'trigger warnings' when you're about to be confronted by something that makes you uncomfortable.

Can you hear me laughing at you, CHRISTopher??
Yap Honghor
2019-02-14 09:50:27 UTC
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Post by Michael Cole
I could make all kinds of cogent arguments...
That would be a first.
Kurt Nick Alas has yet to make even one cogent argument about anything.
Aka "Sansculottes" - French for "knickerless".
Dickens uses the word in A Tale of Two Cities. It describes the crowd
of poor (mostly women) watching and cheering the execution of the
hated aristos by the Guillotine.
And that all has what to do with your cowardice keeping you from addressing me directly, CHRISTopher.
He being a sane person will not speak to someone who is crazy!!!
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Sez CHRISTopher who lacks the balls to address me directly.
The moron pretends that he doesn't understand the concept of children
being named out of respect for elderly relatives.
I'm "pretending" nothing of the sort. I call you "CHRISTopher" for quite another reason which you know very well.
No, he did not know!
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He must be one of those Tea Party loonies who lied that Barack Obama
was a Muslim.
I will confess to referring to him as 'B. Hussein Obama' and watching your ilk spit and fume about it.
See, outright lies from neo-cons!!!!!!
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A sane person discussing anything with an insane troll like Cunt?
Why should he waste all the energy and gets nothing?
The proven serial liar knows he has been killfiled, so I only see
people's responses to him.
I know you are too afraid to talk to me directly because you know you can't keep up.
No one will get near you who is full of ticks.
Post by Kurt Nicklas
It's obvious.
I don't talk to him, I talk _about_ him and
Post by Christopher A. Lee
the other killfiled psychotics, with other atheists.
It's just one more pretence, of course. You couldn't live without them.
No pretence.....
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Because he has made himself the issue here.
You're a coward, CHRISTopher. You have always been a coward. You're simply incapable of dealing with people who disagree with you.
How can us atheists deal with people from a psychopathic ward?
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So why can't he stop lying about this?
Do you need 'trigger warnings' when you're about to be confronted by something that makes you uncomfortable.
You have nothing worthy to confront. Don't flatter yourself.
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Can you hear me laughing at you, CHRISTopher??
Exactly the behavior of those in the ward......
Michael Christ
2019-02-13 20:36:41 UTC
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I could make all kinds of cogent arguments...
That would be a first.
Kurt Nick Alas has yet to make even one cogent argument about anything.
Aka "Sansculottes" - French for "knickerless".
Sez CHRISTopher who lacks the balls to address me directly.
Poor baby.
Ol' Chrissie A. Lee is an expert debater from the shadows behind
somebody else.





Michael Christ
Yap Honghor
2019-02-14 09:52:15 UTC
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I could make all kinds of cogent arguments...
That would be a first.
Kurt Nick Alas has yet to make even one cogent argument about anything.
Aka "Sansculottes" - French for "knickerless".
Sez CHRISTopher who lacks the balls to address me directly.
Poor baby.
Ol' Chrissie A. Lee is an expert debater from the shadows behind
somebody else.
Punks and fools have no legal rights to seek any debate.....
Kurt Nicklas
2019-02-16 09:06:20 UTC
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I could make all kinds of cogent arguments...
That would be a first.
Kurt Nick Alas has yet to make even one cogent argument about anything.
Aka "Sansculottes" - French for "knickerless".
Sez CHRISTopher who lacks the balls to address me directly.
Poor baby.
Ol' Chrissie A. Lee is an expert debater from the shadows behind
somebody else.
Punks and fools have no legal rights to seek any debate.....
Then why are you here?
Ted
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I could make all kinds of cogent arguments...
That would be a first.
Kurt Nick Alas has yet to make even one cogent argument about anything.
Aka "Sansculottes" - French for "knickerless".
Sez CHRISTopher who lacks the balls to address me directly.
Poor baby.
Ol' Chrissie A. Lee is an expert debater from the shadows behind
somebody else.
Punks and fools have no legal rights to seek any debate.....
Then why are you here?
Somebody has to tell you punks and fools tthat you have no legal rights to
seek any debate.....
Kurt Nicklas
2019-02-16 11:00:56 UTC
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Post by Michael Cole
I could make all kinds of cogent arguments...
That would be a first.
Kurt Nick Alas has yet to make even one cogent argument about anything.
Aka "Sansculottes" - French for "knickerless".
Sez CHRISTopher who lacks the balls to address me directly.
Poor baby.
Ol' Chrissie A. Lee is an expert debater from the shadows behind
somebody else.
Punks and fools have no legal rights to seek any debate.....
Then why are you here?
Somebody has to tell you punks and fools tthat you have no legal rights to
seek any debate.....
So then if you have no legal rights to be here, why are you here?

.......
Ted
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I could make all kinds of cogent arguments...
That would be a first.
Kurt Nick Alas has yet to make even one cogent argument about anything.
Aka "Sansculottes" - French for "knickerless".
Sez CHRISTopher who lacks the balls to address me directly.
Poor baby.
Ol' Chrissie A. Lee is an expert debater from the shadows behind
somebody else.
Punks and fools have no legal rights to seek any debate.....
Then why are you here?
Somebody has to tell you punks and fools tthat you have no legal rights to
seek any debate.....
So then if you have no legal rights to be here, why are you here?
.......
If you eat shit, why aren't you dead?
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2019-02-16 20:52:09 UTC
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I could make all kinds of cogent arguments...
That would be a first.
Kurt Nick Alas has yet to make even one cogent argument about anything.
Aka "Sansculottes" - French for "knickerless".
Sez CHRISTopher who lacks the balls to address me directly.
Poor baby.
Ol' Chrissie A. Lee is an expert debater from the shadows behind
somebody else.
Punks and fools have no legal rights to seek any debate.....
Then why are you here?
Somebody has to tell you punks and fools tthat you have no legal rights to
seek any debate.....
So then if you have no legal rights to be here, why are you here?
.......
If you eat shit, why aren't you dead?
If I were dead I'd have to give up making a monkey out of people like you here.

LOL
Kurt Nicklas
2019-02-13 09:05:08 UTC
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I could make all kinds of cogent arguments...
That would be a first.
Kurt Nick Alas has yet to make even one cogent argument about anything.
You wouldn't know one if you saw one, Mikki.
JTEM
2019-02-10 16:53:42 UTC
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We are alone in the universe.

"Unique," on the other hand, is doubtful. We
probably aren't unique, there's probably other
species, other civilizations but we are alone.

They're not here. We have no contact. We never
will be in contact.





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http://jtem.tumblr.com/post/182694084438
Yap Honghor
2019-02-11 02:16:11 UTC
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We are alone in the universe.
Yes troll, your pixie only created human here and had no ability to create lives in other planets........
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"Unique," on the other hand, is doubtful. We
probably aren't unique, there's probably other
species, other civilizations but we are alone.
They're not here. We have no contact. We never
will be in contact.
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JTEM
2019-02-11 03:37:49 UTC
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Congratulations. Your emotional frailty leaves
you upset over, well, everything. So, again,
congratulations!






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m***@gmail.com
2019-02-27 01:34:24 UTC
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We are alone in the universe.
"Unique," on the other hand, is doubtful. We
probably aren't unique, there's probably other
species, other civilizations but we are alone.
They're not here. We have no contact. We never
will be in contact.
How do you know? Do you think you are your God? How do you know that
there aren't people on other worlds waiting for us to mature past
the point of needing religion or waiting to see if we don't kill
ourselves off?

Besides, if they're more knowledgeable than we are, they'd never
contact us as long as a narcissistic moron like Trump is President
of the US and other countries are controlled by dictators.

JWS
2019-02-11 03:13:15 UTC
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Hi all. I thought I would share a cranky observation about the way media likes to dumb down everything. On one of the news shows this morning they interviewed a scientist who argued that the weird space rock Oumuama that recently passed through our solar system was evidence of intelligent alien life. So they made a big deal of having the audience answer a poll question "Is it arrogant for us to assume we are alone in the universe?" I find the stupidity of the question annoying. What the hell does human ego have to do with a factual question about the universe?
I have no interest in being arrogant or humble when considering a question of fact. Putting aside the question of arrogance, I think it is STUPID to assume we are alone in the universe and equally stupid to assume we are not. I could make all kinds of cogent arguments that the sequence of events that led to the evolution of complex life on earth was sufficiently serendipitous, it could be a once-in-a-universe happening. But then we must consider different ways complex life could evolve and on that we can only speculate in the dark. My guess, which is as worthless as anyone else's, is that simple life such as photosynthetic bacteria may be fairly common and more complex life much rarer. How rare? Well, now you've got me guessing.
Which show?
Which scientist?
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2019-02-12 21:55:27 UTC
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Kurt, did you miss this one?
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My guess, which is as worthless as anyone else's, is that simple life such as photosynthetic bacteria may be fairly common and more complex life much rarer.
You having that severe of doubt about your theory?
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2019-02-26 23:24:32 UTC
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Hi all. I thought I would share a cranky observation about the way media likes to dumb down everything. On one of the news shows this morning they interviewed a scientist who argued that the weird space rock Oumuama that recently passed through our solar system was evidence of intelligent alien life. So they made a big deal of having the audience answer a poll question "Is it arrogant for us to assume we are alone in the universe?" I find the stupidity of the question annoying. What the hell does human ego have to do with a factual question about the universe?
I have no interest in being arrogant or humble when considering a question of fact. Putting aside the question of arrogance, I think it is STUPID to assume we are alone in the universe and equally stupid to assume we are not. I could make all kinds of cogent arguments that the sequence of events that led to the evolution of complex life on earth was sufficiently serendipitous, it could be a once-in-a-universe happening. But then we must consider different ways complex life could evolve and on that we can only speculate in the dark. My guess, which is as worthless as anyone else's, is that simple life such as photosynthetic bacteria may be fairly common and more complex life much rarer. How rare? Well, now you've got me guessing.
None of us knows.

Now one for you.

IF........we are the only one, it took 13.7 billion years for man to evolve even
though the universe is 13.8 billion years old. You don't know what was what in
the late 13.7 billion years to become life friendly. So maybe life did not
evolve early on anywhere but started no where different than earth. Thus we may
not be alone, but other life is no further advanced as opposed to rising,
burning out and disappearing billions of years ago.

the dukester
Peter Pan
2019-02-26 23:55:28 UTC
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Hi all. I thought I would share a cranky observation about the way media likes to dumb down everything. On one of the news shows this morning they interviewed a scientist who argued that the weird space rock Oumuama that recently passed through our solar system was evidence of intelligent alien life. So they made a big deal of having the audience answer a poll question "Is it arrogant for us to assume we are alone in the universe?" I find the stupidity of the question annoying. What the hell does human ego have to do with a factual question about the universe?
I have no interest in being arrogant or humble when considering a question of fact. Putting aside the question of arrogance, I think it is STUPID to assume we are alone in the universe and equally stupid to assume we are not. I could make all kinds of cogent arguments that the sequence of events that led to the evolution of complex life on earth was sufficiently serendipitous, it could be a once-in-a-universe happening. But then we must consider different ways complex life could evolve and on that we can only speculate in the dark. My guess, which is as worthless as anyone else's, is that simple life such as photosynthetic bacteria may be fairly common and more complex life much rarer. How rare? Well, now you've got me guessing.
None of us knows.
Now one for you.
IF........we are the only one, it took 13.7 billion years for man to evolve even
though the universe is 13.8 billion years old. You don't know what was what in
the late 13.7 billion years to become life friendly. So maybe life did not
evolve early on anywhere but started no where different than earth. Thus we may
not be alone, but other life is no further advanced as opposed to rising,
burning out and disappearing billions of years ago.
Let me guess: Your spell checker told you this literary
abomination is a perfectly coherent paragraph, so you
think it's deep and meaningful.

Right?
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