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Jahnu
2018-11-30 03:10:20 UTC
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One becomes an atheist when there is no desire to have God in one’s
life. Atheists define themselves as people who lack any kind of
belief, but that’s obviously false, for atheists believe in all kinds
of stuff, even the most improbable nonsense like abiogenesis or
evolution. In fact, it seems atheists are willing to believe anything,
just as long as it doesn’t involve God.

"When people stop believing in God, they don't believe in nothing --
they believe in anything." -- GK Chesterton

Atheists always go on and on about proof and evidence. They seem to
forget that their own belief system - abiogenesis, which is the weird
idea that matter creates life - is completely unfounded, blind belief.
Yet, atheists never demand proof of that.

So atheism, obviously, is not really about proof of this or evidence
of that. In fact, there is nothing an atheist would like less than
proof of God. The default position of an atheist, regarding proof of
God - there is none.

Still, it is a scientific fact that if person maintains an atheistic
mentality, he or she will experience a lot more suffering and
frustration in life than if one connects with Krishna. That is a test
anyone can perform and verify - Krishna consciousness brings greater
happiness in life and atheism brings greater misery and frustration in
life. It’s as simple as that.

What people in general don't understand is that life in the material
world is basically one of suffering and frustration. It is so, because
Krishna has arranged it that way. The reason Krishna has designed it
that way, is because if things were perfect in the material world, the
fallen, lost souls would not want to go back to the spiritual world
and enjoy with Krishna.

They would want to stay in the material world and enjoy the body. This
is what most people want, anyway - stay in the material world and
enjoy their senses. Krishna is even so kind that a soul in the body of
a worm in stool, thinks he is enjoying. Even the souls living under
the most hellish conditions think they are enjoying.

Apart from that, there are heavenly planets where the demigods enjoy
bodily gratification to the max. Anyone can go there by being pious,
following the process devised by God. As a demigod one can enjoy a
subtle body for millions of years. The enjoyment in Heaven, compared
to that of earthlings is like diamonds compared to broken glass.
What’s wrong with heavenly enjoyment is that it culminates in
frustration, because it ends.

Krishna says:

From the highest planet in the material world down to the lowest, all
are places of misery wherein repeated birth and death take place. But
one who attains to My abode, O son of KuntI, never takes birth again.
(Bg. 8.16)

So anyone who is serious about becoming free from suffering and obtain
lasting happiness, must surrender to God and His laws. These laws are
explained in the Vedas.

Anyone who disregards the laws of God, anyone who maintains an
atheistic mentality, will suffer repeatedly. That's the proof that
atheism is bad for you. And anyone who chants Krishna's name on a
regular basis will experience great joy and happiness in life. That's
proof that Krishna is good for you. It's as simple as that.

Krishna says:

O learned Uddhava, those who fix their consciousness on Me, giving up
all material desires, share with Me a happiness that cannot possibly
be experienced by those engaged in sense gratification. --Srimad
Bhagavatam 11.14.12



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LORD Krishna
2018-11-30 04:07:26 UTC
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LORD Krishna makes a sane person an atheist.
You suffer from insanity so you are not one.
LORD Krishna says "take your meds".
LORD Krishna
2018-11-30 04:14:51 UTC
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What makes a person an atheist?
LORD Krishna makes a sane person an atheist.
You suffer from insanity so you are not one.
LORD Krishna says: "Take your meds".

LORD Krishna
Jahnu
2018-12-01 04:13:26 UTC
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LORD Dichead makes an insane person an atheist.
You suffer from sanity so you are not one.
LORD Dickhead says: --but, but Ah seen it on TV
"In the morning I bathe my intellect in the stupendous and cosmogonal
philosophy of the Bhagavad Geeta, in comparison with which our modern
world and its literature seem puny and trivial." - Henry David
Thoreau



https://www.youtube.com/user/jahnudvip?feature=watch

https://picasaweb.google.com/113672947796865733014/Jahnu

http://www.touchtalent.com//artist/118705/jahnu-das

http://youtu.be/B46rjU_q_cM
LORD Krishna
2018-12-15 01:05:43 UTC
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LORD Brahma makes a sane person an atheist.
You suffer from insanity so you are not one.
LORD Vishnu says: "Take your meds".
LORD Shiva
"In the morning I bathe my intellect in the stupendous and cosmogonal
philosophy of the Bhagavad Gita in comparison with which our modern
world and its literature seem puny and trivial" ~ Henry David Thoreau
"Take your meds".

LORD Krishna
Jahnu
2018-12-16 02:20:41 UTC
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On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 17:05:43 -0800 (PST), LORD Krishna
Post by LORD Krishna
"Take your meds".
<SMACK STOMP SMACK>

Down boy, down...


The hypothesis that life evolved from inorganic matter is still to
this day a matter of belief.

- Matematician J. W. N. Sullivan



https://www.youtube.com/user/jahnudvip?feature=watch

https://picasaweb.google.com/113672947796865733014/Jahnu

http://www.touchtalent.com//artist/118705/jahnu-das

http://youtu.be/B46rjU_q_cM
v***@gmail.com
2018-11-30 10:21:57 UTC
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One becomes an atheist when there is no desire to have God in one’s
life. Atheists define themselves as people who lack any kind of
belief, but that’s obviously false, for atheists believe in all kinds
of stuff, even the most improbable nonsense like abiogenesis or
evolution. In fact, it seems atheists are willing to believe anything,
just as long as it doesn’t involve God.
"When people stop believing in God, they don't believe in nothing --
they believe in anything." -- GK Chesterton
Atheists always go on and on about proof and evidence. They seem to
forget that their own belief system - abiogenesis, which is the weird
idea that matter creates life - is completely unfounded, blind belief.
Yet, atheists never demand proof of that.
So atheism, obviously, is not really about proof of this or evidence
of that. In fact, there is nothing an atheist would like less than
proof of God. The default position of an atheist, regarding proof of
God - there is none.
Still, it is a scientific fact that if person maintains an atheistic
mentality, he or she will experience a lot more suffering and
frustration in life than if one connects with Krishna. That is a test
anyone can perform and verify - Krishna consciousness brings greater
happiness in life and atheism brings greater misery and frustration in
life. It’s as simple as that.
What people in general don't understand is that life in the material
world is basically one of suffering and frustration. It is so, because
Krishna has arranged it that way. The reason Krishna has designed it
that way, is because if things were perfect in the material world, the
fallen, lost souls would not want to go back to the spiritual world
and enjoy with Krishna.
They would want to stay in the material world and enjoy the body. This
is what most people want, anyway - stay in the material world and
enjoy their senses. Krishna is even so kind that a soul in the body of
a worm in stool, thinks he is enjoying. Even the souls living under
the most hellish conditions think they are enjoying.
Apart from that, there are heavenly planets where the demigods enjoy
bodily gratification to the max. Anyone can go there by being pious,
following the process devised by God. As a demigod one can enjoy a
subtle body for millions of years. The enjoyment in Heaven, compared
to that of earthlings is like diamonds compared to broken glass.
What’s wrong with heavenly enjoyment is that it culminates in
frustration, because it ends.
From the highest planet in the material world down to the lowest, all
are places of misery wherein repeated birth and death take place. But
one who attains to My abode, O son of KuntI, never takes birth again.
(Bg. 8.16)
So anyone who is serious about becoming free from suffering and obtain
lasting happiness, must surrender to God and His laws. These laws are
explained in the Vedas.
Anyone who disregards the laws of God, anyone who maintains an
atheistic mentality, will suffer repeatedly. That's the proof that
atheism is bad for you. And anyone who chants Krishna's name on a
regular basis will experience great joy and happiness in life. That's
proof that Krishna is good for you. It's as simple as that.
O learned Uddhava, those who fix their consciousness on Me, giving up
all material desires, share with Me a happiness that cannot possibly
be experienced by those engaged in sense gratification. --Srimad
Bhagavatam 11.14.12
https://www.youtube.com/user/jahnudvip?feature=watch
https://picasaweb.google.com/113672947796865733014/Jahnu
http://www.touchtalent.com//artist/118705/jahnu-das
http://youtu.be/B46rjU_q_cM
I was gonna guess at what makes a person an atheist, but I won't do that.
If I start making wild guesses like that, I'll be as bad as they are..
Tim
2018-11-30 10:43:09 UTC
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One becomes an atheist when there is no desire to have God in one’s
life. Atheists define themselves as people who lack any kind of
belief, but that’s obviously false, for atheists believe in all kinds
of stuff, even the most improbable nonsense like abiogenesis or
evolution. In fact, it seems atheists are willing to believe anything,
just as long as it doesn’t involve God.
"When people stop believing in God, they don't believe in nothing --
they believe in anything." -- GK Chesterton
Atheists always go on and on about proof and evidence. They seem to
forget that their own belief system - abiogenesis, which is the weird
idea that matter creates life - is completely unfounded, blind belief.
Yet, atheists never demand proof of that.
So atheism, obviously, is not really about proof of this or evidence
of that. In fact, there is nothing an atheist would like less than
proof of God. The default position of an atheist, regarding proof of
God - there is none.
Still, it is a scientific fact that if person maintains an atheistic
mentality, he or she will experience a lot more suffering and
frustration in life than if one connects with Krishna. That is a test
anyone can perform and verify - Krishna consciousness brings greater
happiness in life and atheism brings greater misery and frustration in
life. It’s as simple as that.
What people in general don't understand is that life in the material
world is basically one of suffering and frustration. It is so, because
Krishna has arranged it that way. The reason Krishna has designed it
that way, is because if things were perfect in the material world, the
fallen, lost souls would not want to go back to the spiritual world
and enjoy with Krishna.
They would want to stay in the material world and enjoy the body. This
is what most people want, anyway - stay in the material world and
enjoy their senses. Krishna is even so kind that a soul in the body of
a worm in stool, thinks he is enjoying. Even the souls living under
the most hellish conditions think they are enjoying.
Apart from that, there are heavenly planets where the demigods enjoy
bodily gratification to the max. Anyone can go there by being pious,
following the process devised by God. As a demigod one can enjoy a
subtle body for millions of years. The enjoyment in Heaven, compared
to that of earthlings is like diamonds compared to broken glass.
What’s wrong with heavenly enjoyment is that it culminates in
frustration, because it ends.
From the highest planet in the material world down to the lowest, all
are places of misery wherein repeated birth and death take place. But
one who attains to My abode, O son of KuntI, never takes birth again.
(Bg. 8.16)
So anyone who is serious about becoming free from suffering and obtain
lasting happiness, must surrender to God and His laws. These laws are
explained in the Vedas.
Anyone who disregards the laws of God, anyone who maintains an
atheistic mentality, will suffer repeatedly. That's the proof that
atheism is bad for you. And anyone who chants Krishna's name on a
regular basis will experience great joy and happiness in life. That's
proof that Krishna is good for you. It's as simple as that.
O learned Uddhava, those who fix their consciousness on Me, giving up
all material desires, share with Me a happiness that cannot possibly
be experienced by those engaged in sense gratification. --Srimad
Bhagavatam 11.14.12
https://www.youtube.com/user/jahnudvip?feature=watch
https://picasaweb.google.com/113672947796865733014/Jahnu
http://www.touchtalent.com//artist/118705/jahnu-das
http://youtu.be/B46rjU_q_cM
I was gonna guess at what makes a person an atheist, but I won't do that.
If I start making wild guesses like that, I'll be as bad as they are..
Faith is a wild guess, and it's all you have, dumb cunt.
v***@gmail.com
2018-11-30 10:59:27 UTC
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Post by v***@gmail.com
One becomes an atheist when there is no desire to have God in one’s
life. Atheists define themselves as people who lack any kind of
belief, but that’s obviously false, for atheists believe in all kinds
of stuff, even the most improbable nonsense like abiogenesis or
evolution. In fact, it seems atheists are willing to believe anything,
just as long as it doesn’t involve God.
"When people stop believing in God, they don't believe in nothing --
they believe in anything." -- GK Chesterton
Atheists always go on and on about proof and evidence. They seem to
forget that their own belief system - abiogenesis, which is the weird
idea that matter creates life - is completely unfounded, blind belief.
Yet, atheists never demand proof of that.
So atheism, obviously, is not really about proof of this or evidence
of that. In fact, there is nothing an atheist would like less than
proof of God. The default position of an atheist, regarding proof of
God - there is none.
Still, it is a scientific fact that if person maintains an atheistic
mentality, he or she will experience a lot more suffering and
frustration in life than if one connects with Krishna. That is a test
anyone can perform and verify - Krishna consciousness brings greater
happiness in life and atheism brings greater misery and frustration in
life. It’s as simple as that.
What people in general don't understand is that life in the material
world is basically one of suffering and frustration. It is so, because
Krishna has arranged it that way. The reason Krishna has designed it
that way, is because if things were perfect in the material world, the
fallen, lost souls would not want to go back to the spiritual world
and enjoy with Krishna.
They would want to stay in the material world and enjoy the body. This
is what most people want, anyway - stay in the material world and
enjoy their senses. Krishna is even so kind that a soul in the body of
a worm in stool, thinks he is enjoying. Even the souls living under
the most hellish conditions think they are enjoying.
Apart from that, there are heavenly planets where the demigods enjoy
bodily gratification to the max. Anyone can go there by being pious,
following the process devised by God. As a demigod one can enjoy a
subtle body for millions of years. The enjoyment in Heaven, compared
to that of earthlings is like diamonds compared to broken glass.
What’s wrong with heavenly enjoyment is that it culminates in
frustration, because it ends.
From the highest planet in the material world down to the lowest, all
are places of misery wherein repeated birth and death take place. But
one who attains to My abode, O son of KuntI, never takes birth again.
(Bg. 8.16)
So anyone who is serious about becoming free from suffering and obtain
lasting happiness, must surrender to God and His laws. These laws are
explained in the Vedas.
Anyone who disregards the laws of God, anyone who maintains an
atheistic mentality, will suffer repeatedly. That's the proof that
atheism is bad for you. And anyone who chants Krishna's name on a
regular basis will experience great joy and happiness in life. That's
proof that Krishna is good for you. It's as simple as that.
O learned Uddhava, those who fix their consciousness on Me, giving up
all material desires, share with Me a happiness that cannot possibly
be experienced by those engaged in sense gratification. --Srimad
Bhagavatam 11.14.12
https://www.youtube.com/user/jahnudvip?feature=watch
https://picasaweb.google.com/113672947796865733014/Jahnu
http://www.touchtalent.com//artist/118705/jahnu-das
http://youtu.be/B46rjU_q_cM
I was gonna guess at what makes a person an atheist, but I won't do that.
If I start making wild guesses like that, I'll be as bad as they are..
Faith is a wild guess, and it's all you have, dumb cunt.
It comes from the bible, a definite book, you idiot.
Donna Stone
2018-11-30 17:07:09 UTC
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Post by Tim
Post by v***@gmail.com
One becomes an atheist when there is no desire to have God in one’s
life. Atheists define themselves as people who lack any kind of
belief, but that’s obviously false, for atheists believe in all kinds
of stuff, even the most improbable nonsense like abiogenesis or
evolution. In fact, it seems atheists are willing to believe anything,
just as long as it doesn’t involve God.
"When people stop believing in God, they don't believe in nothing --
they believe in anything." -- GK Chesterton
Atheists always go on and on about proof and evidence. They seem to
forget that their own belief system - abiogenesis, which is the weird
idea that matter creates life - is completely unfounded, blind belief.
Yet, atheists never demand proof of that.
So atheism, obviously, is not really about proof of this or evidence
of that. In fact, there is nothing an atheist would like less than
proof of God. The default position of an atheist, regarding proof of
God - there is none.
Still, it is a scientific fact that if person maintains an atheistic
mentality, he or she will experience a lot more suffering and
frustration in life than if one connects with Krishna. That is a test
anyone can perform and verify - Krishna consciousness brings greater
happiness in life and atheism brings greater misery and frustration in
life. It’s as simple as that.
What people in general don't understand is that life in the material
world is basically one of suffering and frustration. It is so, because
Krishna has arranged it that way. The reason Krishna has designed it
that way, is because if things were perfect in the material world, the
fallen, lost souls would not want to go back to the spiritual world
and enjoy with Krishna.
They would want to stay in the material world and enjoy the body. This
is what most people want, anyway - stay in the material world and
enjoy their senses. Krishna is even so kind that a soul in the body of
a worm in stool, thinks he is enjoying. Even the souls living under
the most hellish conditions think they are enjoying.
Apart from that, there are heavenly planets where the demigods enjoy
bodily gratification to the max. Anyone can go there by being pious,
following the process devised by God. As a demigod one can enjoy a
subtle body for millions of years. The enjoyment in Heaven, compared
to that of earthlings is like diamonds compared to broken glass.
What’s wrong with heavenly enjoyment is that it culminates in
frustration, because it ends.
From the highest planet in the material world down to the lowest, all
are places of misery wherein repeated birth and death take place. But
one who attains to My abode, O son of KuntI, never takes birth again.
(Bg. 8.16)
So anyone who is serious about becoming free from suffering and obtain
lasting happiness, must surrender to God and His laws. These laws are
explained in the Vedas.
Anyone who disregards the laws of God, anyone who maintains an
atheistic mentality, will suffer repeatedly. That's the proof that
atheism is bad for you. And anyone who chants Krishna's name on a
regular basis will experience great joy and happiness in life. That's
proof that Krishna is good for you. It's as simple as that.
O learned Uddhava, those who fix their consciousness on Me, giving up
all material desires, share with Me a happiness that cannot possibly
be experienced by those engaged in sense gratification. --Srimad
Bhagavatam 11.14.12
https://www.youtube.com/user/jahnudvip?feature=watch
https://picasaweb.google.com/113672947796865733014/Jahnu
http://www.touchtalent.com//artist/118705/jahnu-das
http://youtu.be/B46rjU_q_cM
I was gonna guess at what makes a person an atheist, but I won't do that.
If I start making wild guesses like that, I'll be as bad as they are..
Faith is a wild guess, and it's all you have, dumb cunt.
It comes from the bible, a definite book, you idiot.
Moses plagiarised Vedas, so Torah is second hand.
First hand is LORD Krishna and His Vedas.

Go LORD Krishna (Jesus Christ)!
duke
2018-12-01 18:12:02 UTC
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Post by v***@gmail.com
Post by Tim
Post by v***@gmail.com
Post by Jahnu
One becomes an atheist when there is no desire to have God in one’s
life. Atheists define themselves as people who lack any kind of
belief, but that’s obviously false, for atheists believe in all kinds
of stuff, even the most improbable nonsense like abiogenesis or
evolution. In fact, it seems atheists are willing to believe anything,
just as long as it doesn’t involve God.
"When people stop believing in God, they don't believe in nothing --
they believe in anything." -- GK Chesterton
Atheists always go on and on about proof and evidence. They seem to
forget that their own belief system - abiogenesis, which is the weird
idea that matter creates life - is completely unfounded, blind belief.
Yet, atheists never demand proof of that.
So atheism, obviously, is not really about proof of this or evidence
of that. In fact, there is nothing an atheist would like less than
proof of God. The default position of an atheist, regarding proof of
God - there is none.
Still, it is a scientific fact that if person maintains an atheistic
mentality, he or she will experience a lot more suffering and
frustration in life than if one connects with Krishna. That is a test
anyone can perform and verify - Krishna consciousness brings greater
happiness in life and atheism brings greater misery and frustration in
life. It’s as simple as that.
What people in general don't understand is that life in the material
world is basically one of suffering and frustration. It is so, because
Krishna has arranged it that way. The reason Krishna has designed it
that way, is because if things were perfect in the material world, the
fallen, lost souls would not want to go back to the spiritual world
and enjoy with Krishna.
They would want to stay in the material world and enjoy the body. This
is what most people want, anyway - stay in the material world and
enjoy their senses. Krishna is even so kind that a soul in the body of
a worm in stool, thinks he is enjoying. Even the souls living under
the most hellish conditions think they are enjoying.
Apart from that, there are heavenly planets where the demigods enjoy
bodily gratification to the max. Anyone can go there by being pious,
following the process devised by God. As a demigod one can enjoy a
subtle body for millions of years. The enjoyment in Heaven, compared
to that of earthlings is like diamonds compared to broken glass.
What’s wrong with heavenly enjoyment is that it culminates in
frustration, because it ends.
From the highest planet in the material world down to the lowest, all
are places of misery wherein repeated birth and death take place. But
one who attains to My abode, O son of KuntI, never takes birth again.
(Bg. 8.16)
So anyone who is serious about becoming free from suffering and obtain
lasting happiness, must surrender to God and His laws. These laws are
explained in the Vedas.
Anyone who disregards the laws of God, anyone who maintains an
atheistic mentality, will suffer repeatedly. That's the proof that
atheism is bad for you. And anyone who chants Krishna's name on a
regular basis will experience great joy and happiness in life. That's
proof that Krishna is good for you. It's as simple as that.
O learned Uddhava, those who fix their consciousness on Me, giving up
all material desires, share with Me a happiness that cannot possibly
be experienced by those engaged in sense gratification. --Srimad
Bhagavatam 11.14.12
https://www.youtube.com/user/jahnudvip?feature=watch
https://picasaweb.google.com/113672947796865733014/Jahnu
http://www.touchtalent.com//artist/118705/jahnu-das
http://youtu.be/B46rjU_q_cM
I was gonna guess at what makes a person an atheist, but I won't do that.
If I start making wild guesses like that, I'll be as bad as they are..
Faith is a wild guess, and it's all you have, dumb cunt.
It comes from the bible, a definite book, you idiot.
Moses plagiarised Vedas, so Torah is second hand.
First hand is LORD Krishna and His Vedas.
Moses came long before Vedas.

the dukester, American-American


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the OT,but instead to form us in the very image of Jesus Christ.
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Tim
2018-12-01 18:56:28 UTC
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Post by Donna Stone
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Post by Tim
Post by v***@gmail.com
One becomes an atheist when there is no desire to have God in one’s
life. Atheists define themselves as people who lack any kind of
belief, but that’s obviously false, for atheists believe in all kinds
of stuff, even the most improbable nonsense like abiogenesis or
evolution. In fact, it seems atheists are willing to believe anything,
just as long as it doesn’t involve God.
"When people stop believing in God, they don't believe in nothing --
they believe in anything." -- GK Chesterton
Atheists always go on and on about proof and evidence. They seem to
forget that their own belief system - abiogenesis, which is the weird
idea that matter creates life - is completely unfounded, blind belief.
Yet, atheists never demand proof of that.
So atheism, obviously, is not really about proof of this or evidence
of that. In fact, there is nothing an atheist would like less than
proof of God. The default position of an atheist, regarding proof of
God - there is none.
Still, it is a scientific fact that if person maintains an atheistic
mentality, he or she will experience a lot more suffering and
frustration in life than if one connects with Krishna. That is a test
anyone can perform and verify - Krishna consciousness brings greater
happiness in life and atheism brings greater misery and frustration in
life. It’s as simple as that.
What people in general don't understand is that life in the material
world is basically one of suffering and frustration. It is so, because
Krishna has arranged it that way. The reason Krishna has designed it
that way, is because if things were perfect in the material world, the
fallen, lost souls would not want to go back to the spiritual world
and enjoy with Krishna.
They would want to stay in the material world and enjoy the body. This
is what most people want, anyway - stay in the material world and
enjoy their senses. Krishna is even so kind that a soul in the body of
a worm in stool, thinks he is enjoying. Even the souls living under
the most hellish conditions think they are enjoying.
Apart from that, there are heavenly planets where the demigods enjoy
bodily gratification to the max. Anyone can go there by being pious,
following the process devised by God. As a demigod one can enjoy a
subtle body for millions of years. The enjoyment in Heaven, compared
to that of earthlings is like diamonds compared to broken glass.
What’s wrong with heavenly enjoyment is that it culminates in
frustration, because it ends.
From the highest planet in the material world down to the lowest, all
are places of misery wherein repeated birth and death take place. But
one who attains to My abode, O son of KuntI, never takes birth again.
(Bg. 8.16)
So anyone who is serious about becoming free from suffering and obtain
lasting happiness, must surrender to God and His laws. These laws are
explained in the Vedas.
Anyone who disregards the laws of God, anyone who maintains an
atheistic mentality, will suffer repeatedly. That's the proof that
atheism is bad for you. And anyone who chants Krishna's name on a
regular basis will experience great joy and happiness in life. That's
proof that Krishna is good for you. It's as simple as that.
O learned Uddhava, those who fix their consciousness on Me, giving up
all material desires, share with Me a happiness that cannot possibly
be experienced by those engaged in sense gratification. --Srimad
Bhagavatam 11.14.12
https://www.youtube.com/user/jahnudvip?feature=watch
https://picasaweb.google.com/113672947796865733014/Jahnu
http://www.touchtalent.com//artist/118705/jahnu-das
http://youtu.be/B46rjU_q_cM
I was gonna guess at what makes a person an atheist, but I won't do that.
If I start making wild guesses like that, I'll be as bad as they are..
Faith is a wild guess, and it's all you have, dumb cunt.
It comes from the bible, a definite book, you idiot.
Moses plagiarised Vedas, so Torah is second hand.
First hand is LORD Krishna and His Vedas.
Moses came long before Vedas.
Moses never came. He's a legend, you fat moron.
m***@gmail.com
2018-12-12 05:48:54 UTC
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One becomes an atheist when there is no desire to have God in one’s
life. Atheists define themselves as people who lack any kind of
belief, but that’s obviously false, for atheists believe in all kinds
of stuff, even the most improbable nonsense like abiogenesis or
evolution. In fact, it seems atheists are willing to believe anything,
just as long as it doesn’t involve God.
"When people stop believing in God, they don't believe in nothing --
they believe in anything." -- GK Chesterton
Atheists always go on and on about proof and evidence. They seem to
forget that their own belief system - abiogenesis, which is the weird
idea that matter creates life - is completely unfounded, blind belief.
Yet, atheists never demand proof of that.
So atheism, obviously, is not really about proof of this or evidence
of that. In fact, there is nothing an atheist would like less than
proof of God. The default position of an atheist, regarding proof of
God - there is none.
Still, it is a scientific fact that if person maintains an atheistic
mentality, he or she will experience a lot more suffering and
frustration in life than if one connects with Krishna. That is a test
anyone can perform and verify - Krishna consciousness brings greater
happiness in life and atheism brings greater misery and frustration in
life. It’s as simple as that.
What people in general don't understand is that life in the material
world is basically one of suffering and frustration. It is so, because
Krishna has arranged it that way. The reason Krishna has designed it
that way, is because if things were perfect in the material world, the
fallen, lost souls would not want to go back to the spiritual world
and enjoy with Krishna.
They would want to stay in the material world and enjoy the body. This
is what most people want, anyway - stay in the material world and
enjoy their senses. Krishna is even so kind that a soul in the body of
a worm in stool, thinks he is enjoying. Even the souls living under
the most hellish conditions think they are enjoying.
Apart from that, there are heavenly planets where the demigods enjoy
bodily gratification to the max. Anyone can go there by being pious,
following the process devised by God. As a demigod one can enjoy a
subtle body for millions of years. The enjoyment in Heaven, compared
to that of earthlings is like diamonds compared to broken glass.
What’s wrong with heavenly enjoyment is that it culminates in
frustration, because it ends.
From the highest planet in the material world down to the lowest, all
are places of misery wherein repeated birth and death take place. But
one who attains to My abode, O son of KuntI, never takes birth again.
(Bg. 8.16)
So anyone who is serious about becoming free from suffering and obtain
lasting happiness, must surrender to God and His laws. These laws are
explained in the Vedas.
Anyone who disregards the laws of God, anyone who maintains an
atheistic mentality, will suffer repeatedly. That's the proof that
atheism is bad for you. And anyone who chants Krishna's name on a
regular basis will experience great joy and happiness in life. That's
proof that Krishna is good for you. It's as simple as that.
O learned Uddhava, those who fix their consciousness on Me, giving up
all material desires, share with Me a happiness that cannot possibly
be experienced by those engaged in sense gratification. --Srimad
Bhagavatam 11.14.12
https://www.youtube.com/user/jahnudvip?feature=watch
https://picasaweb.google.com/113672947796865733014/Jahnu
http://www.touchtalent.com//artist/118705/jahnu-das
http://youtu.be/B46rjU_q_cM
I was gonna guess at what makes a person an atheist, but I won't do that.
If I start making wild guesses like that, I'll be as bad as they are..
Faith is a wild guess, and it's all you have, dumb cunt.
It comes from the bible, a definite book, you idiot.
Moses plagiarised Vedas, so Torah is second hand.
First hand is LORD Krishna and His Vedas.
Moses came long before Vedas.
Moses never came. He's a legend, you fat moron.
He's a myth.
Jahnu
2018-12-12 06:02:34 UTC
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I'm a myth. I'm actually a monkey walking around on my keyboard.
Or it might as well be, for all the garbage you've managed to produce
here.


"Simply by chanting one holy name of Hari, a sinful man can counteract
the reactions to more sins than he can commit." (Brihad-vishnu Purana)



https://www.youtube.com/user/jahnudvip?feature=watch

https://picasaweb.google.com/113672947796865733014/Jahnu

http://www.touchtalent.com//artist/118705/jahnu-das

http://youtu.be/B46rjU_q_cM
duke
2018-12-12 12:41:44 UTC
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One becomes an atheist when there is no desire to have God in one’s
life. Atheists define themselves as people who lack any kind of
belief, but that’s obviously false, for atheists believe in all kinds
of stuff, even the most improbable nonsense like abiogenesis or
evolution. In fact, it seems atheists are willing to believe anything,
just as long as it doesn’t involve God.
"When people stop believing in God, they don't believe in nothing --
they believe in anything." -- GK Chesterton
Atheists always go on and on about proof and evidence. They seem to
forget that their own belief system - abiogenesis, which is the weird
idea that matter creates life - is completely unfounded, blind belief.
Yet, atheists never demand proof of that.
So atheism, obviously, is not really about proof of this or evidence
of that. In fact, there is nothing an atheist would like less than
proof of God. The default position of an atheist, regarding proof of
God - there is none.
Still, it is a scientific fact that if person maintains an atheistic
mentality, he or she will experience a lot more suffering and
frustration in life than if one connects with Krishna. That is a test
anyone can perform and verify - Krishna consciousness brings greater
happiness in life and atheism brings greater misery and frustration in
life. It’s as simple as that.
What people in general don't understand is that life in the material
world is basically one of suffering and frustration. It is so, because
Krishna has arranged it that way. The reason Krishna has designed it
that way, is because if things were perfect in the material world, the
fallen, lost souls would not want to go back to the spiritual world
and enjoy with Krishna.
They would want to stay in the material world and enjoy the body. This
is what most people want, anyway - stay in the material world and
enjoy their senses. Krishna is even so kind that a soul in the body of
a worm in stool, thinks he is enjoying. Even the souls living under
the most hellish conditions think they are enjoying.
Apart from that, there are heavenly planets where the demigods enjoy
bodily gratification to the max. Anyone can go there by being pious,
following the process devised by God. As a demigod one can enjoy a
subtle body for millions of years. The enjoyment in Heaven, compared
to that of earthlings is like diamonds compared to broken glass.
What’s wrong with heavenly enjoyment is that it culminates in
frustration, because it ends.
From the highest planet in the material world down to the lowest, all
are places of misery wherein repeated birth and death take place. But
one who attains to My abode, O son of KuntI, never takes birth again.
(Bg. 8.16)
So anyone who is serious about becoming free from suffering and obtain
lasting happiness, must surrender to God and His laws. These laws are
explained in the Vedas.
Anyone who disregards the laws of God, anyone who maintains an
atheistic mentality, will suffer repeatedly. That's the proof that
atheism is bad for you. And anyone who chants Krishna's name on a
regular basis will experience great joy and happiness in life. That's
proof that Krishna is good for you. It's as simple as that.
O learned Uddhava, those who fix their consciousness on Me, giving up
all material desires, share with Me a happiness that cannot possibly
be experienced by those engaged in sense gratification. --Srimad
Bhagavatam 11.14.12
https://www.youtube.com/user/jahnudvip?feature=watch
https://picasaweb.google.com/113672947796865733014/Jahnu
http://www.touchtalent.com//artist/118705/jahnu-das
http://youtu.be/B46rjU_q_cM
I was gonna guess at what makes a person an atheist, but I won't do that.
If I start making wild guesses like that, I'll be as bad as they are..
Faith is a wild guess, and it's all you have, dumb cunt.
It comes from the bible, a definite book, you idiot.
Moses plagiarised Vedas, so Torah is second hand.
First hand is LORD Krishna and His Vedas.
Moses came long before Vedas.
Moses never came. He's a legend, you fat moron.
He's a myth.
Prove it.

the dukester, American-American


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the OT,but instead to form us in the very image of Jesus Christ.
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2018-12-12 21:31:04 UTC
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Post by duke
Moses came long before Vedas.
Moses never came. He's a legend, you fat moron.
He's a myth.
Prove it.
A Moses who did as little as you believe he did would not be
remembered many centuries after the fact.
% <%>
2018-12-12 21:39:07 UTC
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Post by duke
Moses came long before Vedas.
Moses never came. He's a legend, you fat moron.
He's a myth.
Prove it.
A Moses who did as little as you believe he did would not be
remembered many centuries after the fact.
well he is
Vincent Maycock
2018-12-12 21:50:05 UTC
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Post by Tim
Post by duke
Moses came long before Vedas.
Moses never came. He's a legend, you fat moron.
He's a myth.
Prove it.
A Moses who did as little as you believe he did would not be
remembered many centuries after the fact.
well he is
Only in much-embellished form.
% <%>
2018-12-12 21:52:37 UTC
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Moses came long before Vedas.
Moses never came. He's a legend, you fat moron.
He's a myth.
Prove it.
A Moses who did as little as you believe he did would not be
remembered many centuries after the fact.
well he is
Only in much-embellished form.
oh so now its , " only in as much "
Vincent Maycock
2018-12-12 22:21:52 UTC
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Post by duke
Moses came long before Vedas.
Moses never came. He's a legend, you fat moron.
He's a myth.
Prove it.
A Moses who did as little as you believe he did would not be
remembered many centuries after the fact.
well he is
Only in much-embellished form.
oh so now its , " only in as much "
Well, it is, isn't it? I'm saying that's the only way the myth would
spread. If Moses did virtually nothing, as duke suggests, nobody
would want to hear about it, and he would be forgotten as the
centuries rolled on.
duke
2018-12-13 12:50:28 UTC
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Moses came long before Vedas.
Moses never came. He's a legend, you fat moron.
He's a myth.
Prove it.
A Moses who did as little as you believe he did would not be
remembered many centuries after the fact.
well he is
Only in much-embellished form.
Stupidly weak comment.

the dukester, American-American


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Vincent Maycock
2018-12-13 15:09:18 UTC
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Moses came long before Vedas.
Moses never came. He's a legend, you fat moron.
He's a myth.
Prove it.
A Moses who did as little as you believe he did would not be
remembered many centuries after the fact.
well he is
Only in much-embellished form.
Stupidly weak comment.
Is there some reason why the memory of a Moses leading a few people
out of Egypt would be expected to survive for centuries after it
happened?
duke
2018-12-14 18:13:33 UTC
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A Moses who did as little as you believe he did would not be
remembered many centuries after the fact.
well he is
Only in much-embellished form.
Stupidly weak comment.
Is there some reason why the memory of a Moses leading a few people
out of Egypt would be expected to survive for centuries after it
happened?
Yes there is. The appearance of Moses is the very PREEMINENT INTRODUCTION of
almighty God in the world from the pagan world in very first presentation of the
10 commandments of God.

If you were more than a pagan, you would have at least groked this simple point.

the dukester, American-American


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Vincent Maycock
2018-12-14 23:31:19 UTC
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A Moses who did as little as you believe he did would not be
remembered many centuries after the fact.
well he is
Only in much-embellished form.
Stupidly weak comment.
Is there some reason why the memory of a Moses leading a few people
out of Egypt would be expected to survive for centuries after it
happened?
Yes there is. The appearance of Moses
No, Moses never appeared.
Post by duke
is the very PREEMINENT INTRODUCTION of
almighty God in the world from the pagan world in very first presentation of the
10 commandments of God.
LOL! You've got to admit that the first four commandments are
worthless, and that the remaining six could easily be joined up with
better things like, "Thou shalt not own slaves" or "Thou shalt not
rape."
Post by duke
If you were more than a pagan, you would have at least groked this simple point.
Two k's in grokked, duke. And Christians are no better than pagans,
because you guys both have religious beliefs. You should be an
atheist, and lack any religious beliefs -- pagan or otherwise.
duke
2018-12-15 12:23:32 UTC
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A Moses who did as little as you believe he did would not be
remembered many centuries after the fact.
well he is
Only in much-embellished form.
Stupidly weak comment.
Is there some reason why the memory of a Moses leading a few people
out of Egypt would be expected to survive for centuries after it
happened?
Yes there is. The appearance of Moses
No, Moses never appeared.
Of course he did. That's like saying you never appeared.
Post by Vincent Maycock
Post by duke
is the very PREEMINENT INTRODUCTION of
almighty God in the world from the pagan world in very first presentation of the
10 commandments of God.
LOL! You've got to admit that the first four commandments are
worthless, and that the remaining six could easily be joined up with
better things like, "Thou shalt not own slaves" or "Thou shalt not
rape."
The Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:2-17 NKJV)
1
“I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the
house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me.
2
“You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything
that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the
water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the
Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the
children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing
mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My Commandments.
3
“You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not
hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.
4
“Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all
your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you
shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant,
nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your
gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all
that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the
Sabbath day and hallowed it.
5
“Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land
which the Lord your God is giving you.
6
“You shall not murder.
7
“You shall not commit adultery.
8
“You shall not steal.
9
“You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
10
“You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's
wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey,
nor anything that is your neighbor's.”

Actually, the first 4 define man's relationship with God. The remaining 6
define man's relationship with man.

And I'm sure that things like "Thou shalt not own slaves" or "Thou shalt not
rape" are already covered, much to your chagrin

the dukester, American-American


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Vincent Maycock
2018-12-15 22:18:48 UTC
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A Moses who did as little as you believe he did would not be
remembered many centuries after the fact.
well he is
Only in much-embellished form.
Stupidly weak comment.
Is there some reason why the memory of a Moses leading a few people
out of Egypt would be expected to survive for centuries after it
happened?
Yes there is. The appearance of Moses
No, Moses never appeared.
Of course he did. That's like saying you never appeared.
Moses appeared in alt.atheism and posted?
Post by duke
Post by Vincent Maycock
Post by duke
is the very PREEMINENT INTRODUCTION of
almighty God in the world from the pagan world in very first presentation of the
10 commandments of God.
LOL! You've got to admit that the first four commandments are
worthless, and that the remaining six could easily be joined up with
better things like, "Thou shalt not own slaves" or "Thou shalt not
rape."
The Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:2-17 NKJV)
1
“I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the
house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me.
2
“You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything
that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the
water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the
Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the
children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing
mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My Commandments.
3
“You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not
hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.
4
“Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all
your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you
shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant,
nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your
gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all
that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the
Sabbath day and hallowed it.
5
“Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land
which the Lord your God is giving you.
6
“You shall not murder.
7
“You shall not commit adultery.
8
“You shall not steal.
9
“You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
10
“You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's
wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey,
nor anything that is your neighbor's.”
Actually, the first 4 define man's relationship with God.
I guess that's probably why they seem to be so useless to me. With no
"God" to form a relationship with, there's no reason to believe
anything valuable would come from them.
Post by duke
The remaining 6
define man's relationship with man.
A weak and limited attempt to do so.
Post by duke
And I'm sure that things like "Thou shalt not own slaves" or "Thou shalt not
rape" are already covered, much to your chagrin
I would suspect, to your chagrin, that we could replace the
thought-police-ish 10th commandment with the more significant "Thou
shalt not rape."
duke
2018-12-16 14:13:53 UTC
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Is there some reason why the memory of a Moses leading a few people
out of Egypt would be expected to survive for centuries after it
happened?
Yes there is. The appearance of Moses
No, Moses never appeared.
Of course he did. That's like saying you never appeared.
Moses appeared in alt.atheism and posted?
Ok, turn your brain off, reboot it, and try again.
Post by Vincent Maycock
Post by duke
Post by Vincent Maycock
LOL! You've got to admit that the first four commandments are
worthless, and that the remaining six could easily be joined up with
better things like, "Thou shalt not own slaves" or "Thou shalt not
rape."
The Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:2-17 NKJV)
1
“I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the
house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me.
2
“You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything
that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the
water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the
Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the
children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing
mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My Commandments.
3
“You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not
hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.
4
“Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all
your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you
shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant,
nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your
gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all
that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the
Sabbath day and hallowed it.
5
“Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land
which the Lord your God is giving you.
6
“You shall not murder.
7
“You shall not commit adultery.
8
“You shall not steal.
9
“You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
10
“You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's
wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey,
nor anything that is your neighbor's.”
Actually, the first 4 define man's relationship with God.
I guess that's probably why they seem to be so useless to me. With no
"God" to form a relationship with, there's no reason to believe
anything valuable would come from them.
God has his hand out for you to take it.
Post by Vincent Maycock
Post by duke
The remaining 6
define man's relationship with man.
A weak and limited attempt to do so.
I would expect one that doesn't care to say that.
Post by Vincent Maycock
Post by duke
And I'm sure that things like "Thou shalt not own slaves" or "Thou shalt not
rape" are already covered, much to your chagrin
I would suspect, to your chagrin, that we could replace the
thought-police-ish 10th commandment with the more significant "Thou
shalt not rape."
Leaves out too much.

the dukester, American-American


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Cloud Hobbit
2018-12-15 00:24:28 UTC
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A Moses who did as little as you believe he did would not be
remembered many centuries after the fact.
well he is
Only in much-embellished form.
Stupidly weak comment.
Is there some reason why the memory of a Moses leading a few people
out of Egypt would be expected to survive for centuries after it
happened?
Yes there is. The appearance of Moses is the very PREEMINENT INTRODUCTION of
almighty God in the world from the pagan world in very first presentation of the
10
What took him so damn long? There were people long before your beliefs say god showed up.
Post by duke
If you were more than a pagan, you would have at least groked this simple point.
Now if you could just grok the point that Moses and the Exodus are both fiction and never happened.

Even if we accept the number from the bible of 600+ thousand people and no other family members, there is still no way they could have spent 40 years in the desert without leaving a single trace.

Moses is just a retelling of a different legend that also never happened.

How is life in fantasy land?
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2018-12-15 00:27:11 UTC
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What took him so damn long? There were people long before your beliefs say god showed up.
<SMACK, SMACK STOMP>

Down , boy, down.

Krishn says:

O best among the Bharatas, four kinds of pious men begin to render
devotional service unto Me - the distressed, the desirer of wealth,
the inquisitive, and he who is searching for knowledge of the
Absolute. (Bg 7.16)

Of these, the one who is in full knowledge and who is always engaged
in pure devotional service is the best. For I am very dear to him, and
he is dear to Me. (Bg 7.17)

All these devotees are undoubtedly magnanimous souls, but he who is
situated in knowledge of Me I consider to be just like My own self.
Being engaged in My transcendental service, he is sure to attain Me,
the highest and most perfect goal. (Bg 7.18)

After many births and deaths, he who is actually in knowledge
surrenders unto Me, knowing Me to be the cause of all causes and all
that is. Such a great soul is very rare. (Bg 7.19)



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duke
2018-12-15 12:33:25 UTC
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A Moses who did as little as you believe he did would not be
remembered many centuries after the fact.
well he is
Only in much-embellished form.
Stupidly weak comment.
Is there some reason why the memory of a Moses leading a few people
out of Egypt would be expected to survive for centuries after it
happened?
Yes there is. The appearance of Moses is the very PREEMINENT INTRODUCTION of
almighty God in the world from the pagan world in very first presentation of the
10
What took him so damn long? There were people long before your beliefs say god showed up.
Your relatives couldn't get past worshipping "things" then. When man was ready
for the next step, God showed up.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Post by duke
If you were more than a pagan, you would have at least groked this simple point.
Now if you could just grok the point that Moses and the Exodus are both fiction and never happened.
Prove it.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Even if we accept the number from the bible of 600+ thousand people and no other family members, there is still no way they could have spent 40 years in the desert without leaving a single trace.
You really think they stayed in a tight group for 40 years? No, they spread out
and wandered all over the desert. So "anything" you find could theoretically be
1 year old to 10,000 years old. They didn't throw their plastic straws away on
the overnight stopover.

The winds blew, the sand moved, hidden pyramids appeared, the camel dung dried
out and broke up, cloth rotted, bones were scattered.

Can you tell today's camel dung from a leg bone from 10,000 years ago if the
wind blows and the desert moves?

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2018-12-15 22:18:21 UTC
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Post by Vincent Maycock
A Moses who did as little as you believe he did would not be
remembered many centuries after the fact.
well he is
Only in much-embellished form.
Stupidly weak comment.
Is there some reason why the memory of a Moses leading a few people
out of Egypt would be expected to survive for centuries after it
happened?
Yes there is. The appearance of Moses is the very PREEMINENT INTRODUCTION of
almighty God in the world from the pagan world in very first presentation of the
10
What took him so damn long? There were people long before your beliefs say god showed up.
Your relatives couldn't get past worshipping "things" then. When man was ready
for the next step, God showed up.
Why would they not be "ready for the next step"?
Post by Jahnu
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Post by duke
If you were more than a pagan, you would have at least groked this simple point.
Now if you could just grok the point that Moses and the Exodus are both fiction and never happened.
Prove it.
There's no archaeological evidence for them -- no traces of a huge
population of slaves in Egypt, no evidence of a huge population
wandering in the wilderness (your ramblings on the subject
notwithstanding), and no trace of a violent Israelite conquest of
Canaan.
Post by Jahnu
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Even if we accept the number from the bible of 600+ thousand people and no other family members, there is still no way they could have spent 40 years in the desert without leaving a single trace.
You really think they stayed in a tight group for 40 years? No, they spread out
and wandered all over the desert. So "anything" you find could theoretically be
1 year old to 10,000 years old. They didn't throw their plastic straws away on
the overnight stopover.
The winds blew, the sand moved,
And covered things to some extent.
Post by Jahnu
hidden pyramids appeared,
At no time were there hidden pyramids waiting to appear.
Post by Jahnu
the camel dung dried
out and broke up, cloth rotted,
In such a dry environment?
Post by Jahnu
bones were scattered.
Can you tell today's camel dung from a leg bone from 10,000 years ago if the
wind blows and the desert moves?
Radiometric dating could do it, and "wind blows and the desert moves"
doesn't prevent traces of huge populations from showing up.
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2018-12-15 23:47:09 UTC
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A Moses who did as little as you believe he did would not be
remembered many centuries after the fact.
well he is
Only in much-embellished form.
Stupidly weak comment.
Is there some reason why the memory of a Moses leading a few people
out of Egypt would be expected to survive for centuries after it
happened?
Yes there is. The appearance of Moses is the very PREEMINENT INTRODUCTION of
almighty God in the world from the pagan world in very first presentation of the
10
What took him so damn long? There were people long before your beliefs say god showed up.
Your relatives couldn't get past worshipping "things" then. When man was ready
for the next step, God showed up.
Why would they not be "ready for the next step"?
Post by Jahnu
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Post by duke
If you were more than a pagan, you would have at least groked this simple point.
Now if you could just grok the point that Moses and the Exodus are both fiction and never happened.
Prove it.
There's no archaeological evidence for them -- no traces of a huge
population of slaves in Egypt, no evidence of a huge population
wandering in the wilderness (your ramblings on the subject
notwithstanding), and no trace of a violent Israelite conquest of
Canaan.
Post by Jahnu
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Even if we accept the number from the bible of 600+ thousand people and no other family members, there is still no way they could have spent 40 years in the desert without leaving a single trace.
You really think they stayed in a tight group for 40 years? No, they spread out
and wandered all over the desert. So "anything" you find could theoretically be
1 year old to 10,000 years old. They didn't throw their plastic straws away on
the overnight stopover.
The winds blew, the sand moved,
Funny stone henge is in roughly the same place, the pyramids are in
the same place and both of those are about the same age as your fairy
tale moses story

Oh yes I see it now, 600,000 people wondering aimlessly through a
desert with no food and no water all spread out and then I guess they
all had good watches to be back at the same exact spot at the same
exact time

so are you saying that a population the size of about new orleans
would not leave a single trace? There are cave painting over 40,000
years old... Your moses fairy tale is less than 6000

But duke you are a dumb ass catholic proper, you don't even think
moses existed so all of this tells me you are just a troll that is
bored with its life and wants some attention...
Post by Vincent Maycock
And covered things to some extent.
Post by Jahnu
hidden pyramids appeared,
At no time were there hidden pyramids waiting to appear.
Post by Jahnu
the camel dung dried
out and broke up, cloth rotted,
In such a dry environment?
Post by Jahnu
bones were scattered.
Can you tell today's camel dung from a leg bone from 10,000 years ago if the
wind blows and the desert moves?
Radiometric dating could do it, and "wind blows and the desert moves"
doesn't prevent traces of huge populations from showing up.
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2018-12-16 02:34:36 UTC
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There's no archaeological evidence for them -- no traces of a huge
population of slaves in Egypt, no evidence of a huge population
wandering in the wilderness (your ramblings on the subject
notwithstanding), and no trace of a violent Israelite conquest of
Canaan.
It seems hard for you to get over the Abrahamic snot you grew up
with... Your tiny little mind just can't conceive of anything else,
eh?

"The religion and philosophy of the Hebrews are those of a wilder and
ruder tribe, wanting the civility and intellectual refinements and
subtlety of Vedic culture." - Henry David Thoreau


Krishna says:

Now hear, O son of Prtha, how by practicing yoga in full consciousness
of Me, with mind attached to Me, you can know Me in full, free from
doubt.

I shall now declare unto you in full this knowledge, both phenomenal
and numinous. This being known, nothing further shall remain for you
to know.

Out of many thousands among men, one may endeavor for perfection, and
of those who have achieved perfection, hardly one knows Me in truth.

Earth, water, fire, air, ether, mind, intelligence and false ego --
all together these eight constitute My separated material energies.

Besides these, O mighty-armed Arjuna, there is another, superior
energy of Mine, which comprises the living entities who are exploiting
the resources of this material, inferior nature.

All created beings have their source in these two natures. Of all that
is material and all that is spiritual in this world, know for certain
that I am both the origin and the dissolution.

O conqueror of wealth, there is no truth superior to Me. Everything
rests upon Me, as pearls are strung on a thread.


--Bhagavad Gita 7.1-7





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duke
2018-12-13 12:49:34 UTC
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Moses came long before Vedas.
Moses never came. He's a legend, you fat moron.
He's a myth.
Prove it.
A Moses who did as little as you believe he did would not be
remembered many centuries after the fact.
The record was not written last week. It was written 3700 years ago. It's a
"story" of spiritual history and even broaches the subject of creation of all
things in the beginning.

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Vincent Maycock
2018-12-13 15:06:20 UTC
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Moses came long before Vedas.
Moses never came. He's a legend, you fat moron.
He's a myth.
Prove it.
A Moses who did as little as you believe he did would not be
remembered many centuries after the fact.
The record was not written last week.
Who said it was?
Post by duke
It was written 3700 years ago.
LOL, by Moses, referring to himself in the third person? Your date
for the composition of Exodus is way before that of most scholars, by
the way.
Post by duke
It's a
"story" of spiritual history and even broaches the subject of creation of all
things in the beginning.
About which it is wrong there, as well, unless by "story" you mean
"fiction."
duke
2018-12-14 18:17:53 UTC
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Moses came long before Vedas.
Moses never came. He's a legend, you fat moron.
He's a myth.
Prove it.
A Moses who did as little as you believe he did would not be
remembered many centuries after the fact.
The record was not written last week.
Who said it was?
Post by duke
It was written 3700 years ago.
LOL, by Moses, referring to himself in the third person? Your date
for the composition of Exodus is way before that of most scholars, by
the way.
No, the Torah was NOT written by Moses but consists of the origin of Jewish
peoplehood: their call into being by God, their trials and tribulations, and
their covenant with their God, which involves following a way of life embodied
in a set of moral and religious obligations and civil laws.
Post by Vincent Maycock
About which it is wrong there, as well, unless by "story" you mean
"fiction."
So you pagan's wish.

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2018-12-14 23:31:02 UTC
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Moses came long before Vedas.
Moses never came. He's a legend, you fat moron.
He's a myth.
Prove it.
A Moses who did as little as you believe he did would not be
remembered many centuries after the fact.
The record was not written last week.
Who said it was?
Post by duke
It was written 3700 years ago.
LOL, by Moses, referring to himself in the third person? Your date
for the composition of Exodus is way before that of most scholars, by
the way.
No, the Torah was NOT written by Moses
True. In fact, Moses never did much of anything else, either.
"Non-existent" is the best we can use to describe him.
Post by duke
but consists of the origin of Jewish
peoplehood: their call into being by God, their trials and tribulations, and
their covenant with their God, which involves following a way of life embodied
in a set of moral and religious obligations and civil laws.
Some of it may be good literature, but there's no reason to take these
stories seriously as history. Fiction, like I say!

Also, there's no reason for an omniscient and omnipotent being to
create such a useless compendium of stupidity that you refer to as "a
set of moral and obligations and civil laws," and then change his mind
about them.

Or do you still follow all the ridiculous Jewish laws?
Post by duke
Post by Vincent Maycock
About which it is wrong there, as well, unless by "story" you mean
"fiction."
So you pagan's wish.
One too many apostrophes there, duke. You meant to say, "So you
pagans wish."

In any case, pagans all have theist beliefs. I don't have any such
beliefs, so I'm not a pagan.
duke
2018-12-15 12:50:09 UTC
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A Moses who did as little as you believe he did would not be
remembered many centuries after the fact.
The record was not written last week.
Who said it was?
Post by duke
It was written 3700 years ago.
LOL, by Moses, referring to himself in the third person? Your date
for the composition of Exodus is way before that of most scholars, by
the way.
Say 3300 years instead of 3700.
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Post by duke
No, the Torah was NOT written by Moses
True. In fact, Moses never did much of anything else, either.
"Non-existent" is the best we can use to describe him.
Well, Charleston Heston was admittedly excessive presentation.
Post by Vincent Maycock
Post by duke
but consists of the origin of Jewish
peoplehood: their call into being by God, their trials and tribulations, and
their covenant with their God, which involves following a way of life embodied
in a set of moral and religious obligations and civil laws.
Some of it may be good literature, but there's no reason to take these
stories seriously as history. Fiction, like I say!
Then again you still can't grok that the stories are spiritual in nature of a
people growing in belief of God. Whre spiriutal crosses literal is not an
issue. All nations of history grew up with the camefire stories like the great
white buffalo.
Post by Vincent Maycock
Also, there's no reason for an omniscient and omnipotent being to
create such a useless compendium of stupidity that you refer to as "a
set of moral and obligations and civil laws," and then change his mind
about them.
What change by God? God established the guidance, man established the laws.
Post by Vincent Maycock
Or do you still follow all the ridiculous Jewish laws?
Why ridiculous? You don't think they had practical value, like:
1. Pork - undercooked meant trickanosis and death, no refrigeration.
2. Unscaled fish - bottom feeders ==> sewage
3. Etc.

All 613 meant something and had value.
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About which it is wrong there, as well, unless by "story" you mean
"fiction."
So you pagan's wish.
One too many apostrophes there, duke. You meant to say, "So you
pagans wish."
I was excessive, you lack knowledge of old habits.
Post by Vincent Maycock
In any case, pagans all have theist beliefs. I don't have any such
beliefs, so I'm not a pagan.
Thus you believe in the one almighty God.

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Vincent Maycock
2018-12-15 22:19:37 UTC
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A Moses who did as little as you believe he did would not be
remembered many centuries after the fact.
The record was not written last week.
Who said it was?
Post by duke
It was written 3700 years ago.
LOL, by Moses, referring to himself in the third person? Your date
for the composition of Exodus is way before that of most scholars, by
the way.
Say 3300 years instead of 3700.
Wrong, too, but at least consistent with what some of the more
conservative scholars propose.
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Post by Vincent Maycock
Post by duke
No, the Torah was NOT written by Moses
True. In fact, Moses never did much of anything else, either.
"Non-existent" is the best we can use to describe him.
Well, Charleston Heston was admittedly excessive presentation.
Post by Vincent Maycock
Post by duke
but consists of the origin of Jewish
peoplehood: their call into being by God, their trials and tribulations, and
their covenant with their God, which involves following a way of life embodied
in a set of moral and religious obligations and civil laws.
Some of it may be good literature, but there's no reason to take these
stories seriously as history. Fiction, like I say!
Then again you still can't grok that the stories are spiritual in nature of a
people growing in belief of God. Whre spiriutal crosses literal is not an
issue. All nations of history grew up with the camefire stories like the great
white buffalo.
You should read more Christian fiction, if you're really into this;
Frank Peretti comes to mind.
Post by duke
Post by Vincent Maycock
Also, there's no reason for an omniscient and omnipotent being to
create such a useless compendium of stupidity that you refer to as "a
set of moral and obligations and civil laws," and then change his mind
about them.
What change by God? God established the guidance, man established the laws.
God at one time supposedly required us follow the laws like
sacrificing lambs and follow all the other laws in Leviticus, but you
don't feel called to do that, do you?
Post by duke
Post by Vincent Maycock
Or do you still follow all the ridiculous Jewish laws?
1. Pork - undercooked meant trickanosis and death,
So cook it right and eat it.
Post by duke
no refrigeration.
Applicable for all meats, but the Jews were not vegetarians.
Post by duke
2. Unscaled fish - bottom feeders ==> sewage
So you don't enjoy shrimp or lobster?
Post by duke
3. Etc.
Could the "etc" include stoning homosexuals to death, as prescribed in
the book of Leviticus?
Post by duke
All 613 meant something and had value.
Why would so many be needed?
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Post by duke
Post by Vincent Maycock
About which it is wrong there, as well, unless by "story" you mean
"fiction."
So you pagan's wish.
One too many apostrophes there, duke. You meant to say, "So you
pagans wish."
I was excessive, you lack knowledge of old habits.
Post by Vincent Maycock
In any case, pagans all have theist beliefs. I don't have any such
beliefs, so I'm not a pagan.
Thus you believe in the one almighty God.
No, I don't believe in an almighty god or any other god. You have a
serious problem with a false dichotomy here. There are more options
besides "belief in an almighty god" and "being a pagan."
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2018-12-13 22:39:03 UTC
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The record was not written last week. It was written 3700 years ago. It's a
"story" of spiritual history and even broaches the subject of creation of all
things in the beginning.
"The religion and philosophy of the Hebrews are those of a wilder and
ruder tribe, wanting the civility and intellectual refinements and
subtlety of Vedic culture." - Henry David Thoreau



https://www.youtube.com/user/jahnudvip?feature=watch

https://picasaweb.google.com/113672947796865733014/Jahnu

http://www.touchtalent.com//artist/118705/jahnu-das

http://youtu.be/B46rjU_q_cM
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2018-12-14 18:18:20 UTC
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The record was not written last week. It was written 3700 years ago. It's a
"story" of spiritual history and even broaches the subject of creation of all
things in the beginning.
"The religion and philosophy of the Hebrews are those of a wilder and
ruder tribe, wanting the civility and intellectual refinements and
subtlety of Vedic culture." - Henry David Thoreau
HDT was a grass eater?

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2018-12-15 00:03:00 UTC
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HDT was a grass eater?
"If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the
shelter of compassion and pity, you have men who will deal likewise
with their fellow men." -- St. Francis of Assisi



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2018-12-15 12:50:41 UTC
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HDT was a grass eater?
"If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the
shelter of compassion and pity, you have men who will deal likewise
with their fellow men." -- St. Francis of Assisi
God gave animals to men for food.

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HDT was a grass eater?
"If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the
shelter of compassion and pity, you have men who will deal likewise
with their fellow men." -- St. Francis of Assisi
God gave animals to men for food.
What's your favorite way to prepare Koala?
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HDT was a grass eater?
"If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the
shelter of compassion and pity, you have men who will deal likewise
with their fellow men." -- St. Francis of Assisi
God gave animals to men for food.
What's your favorite way to prepare Koala?
The moron forgets that in ITs fairy tale animals were created first.
so that would mean humans were gifts to the animals for food
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One becomes an atheist when there is no desire to have God in one’s
life. Atheists define themselves as people who lack any kind of
belief, but that’s obviously false, for atheists believe in all kinds
of stuff, even the most improbable nonsense like abiogenesis or
evolution. In fact, it seems atheists are willing to believe anything,
just as long as it doesn’t involve God.
"When people stop believing in God, they don't believe in nothing --
they believe in anything." -- GK Chesterton
Atheists always go on and on about proof and evidence. They seem to
forget that their own belief system - abiogenesis, which is the weird
idea that matter creates life - is completely unfounded, blind belief.
Yet, atheists never demand proof of that.
So atheism, obviously, is not really about proof of this or evidence
of that. In fact, there is nothing an atheist would like less than
proof of God. The default position of an atheist, regarding proof of
God - there is none.
Still, it is a scientific fact that if person maintains an atheistic
mentality, he or she will experience a lot more suffering and
frustration in life than if one connects with Krishna. That is a test
anyone can perform and verify - Krishna consciousness brings greater
happiness in life and atheism brings greater misery and frustration in
life. It’s as simple as that.
What people in general don't understand is that life in the material
world is basically one of suffering and frustration. It is so, because
Krishna has arranged it that way. The reason Krishna has designed it
that way, is because if things were perfect in the material world, the
fallen, lost souls would not want to go back to the spiritual world
and enjoy with Krishna.
They would want to stay in the material world and enjoy the body. This
is what most people want, anyway - stay in the material world and
enjoy their senses. Krishna is even so kind that a soul in the body of
a worm in stool, thinks he is enjoying. Even the souls living under
the most hellish conditions think they are enjoying.
Apart from that, there are heavenly planets where the demigods enjoy
bodily gratification to the max. Anyone can go there by being pious,
following the process devised by God. As a demigod one can enjoy a
subtle body for millions of years. The enjoyment in Heaven, compared
to that of earthlings is like diamonds compared to broken glass.
What’s wrong with heavenly enjoyment is that it culminates in
frustration, because it ends.
From the highest planet in the material world down to the lowest, all
are places of misery wherein repeated birth and death take place. But
one who attains to My abode, O son of KuntI, never takes birth again.
(Bg. 8.16)
So anyone who is serious about becoming free from suffering and obtain
lasting happiness, must surrender to God and His laws. These laws are
explained in the Vedas.
Anyone who disregards the laws of God, anyone who maintains an
atheistic mentality, will suffer repeatedly. That's the proof that
atheism is bad for you. And anyone who chants Krishna's name on a
regular basis will experience great joy and happiness in life. That's
proof that Krishna is good for you. It's as simple as that.
O learned Uddhava, those who fix their consciousness on Me, giving up
all material desires, share with Me a happiness that cannot possibly
be experienced by those engaged in sense gratification. --Srimad
Bhagavatam 11.14.12
https://www.youtube.com/user/jahnudvip?feature=watch
https://picasaweb.google.com/113672947796865733014/Jahnu
http://www.touchtalent.com//artist/118705/jahnu-das
http://youtu.be/B46rjU_q_cM
I was gonna guess at what makes a person an atheist, but I won't do that.
If I start making wild guesses like that, I'll be as bad as they are..
Faith is a wild guess, and it's all you have, dumb cunt.
It comes from the bible, a definite book, you idiot.
Moses plagiarised Vedas, so Torah is second hand.
First hand is LORD Krishna and His Vedas.
Moses came long before Vedas.
...not necessarily. The Samhita, the most ancient layer of text in the
Vedas, is thought to have originated around 1700-1200 BC. Given that
the accepted Biblical date for the alleged Exodus is around 1446 BC,
if your fictional Moses character had been real, he could have had
access to this ancient Vedas text.
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One becomes an atheist when there is no desire to have God in one’s
life. Atheists define themselves as people who lack any kind of
belief, but that’s obviously false, for atheists believe in all kinds
of stuff, even the most improbable nonsense like abiogenesis or
evolution. In fact, it seems atheists are willing to believe anything,
just as long as it doesn’t involve God.
"When people stop believing in God, they don't believe in nothing --
they believe in anything." -- GK Chesterton
Atheists always go on and on about proof and evidence. They seem to
forget that their own belief system - abiogenesis, which is the weird
idea that matter creates life - is completely unfounded, blind belief.
Yet, atheists never demand proof of that.
So atheism, obviously, is not really about proof of this or evidence
of that. In fact, there is nothing an atheist would like less than
proof of God. The default position of an atheist, regarding proof of
God - there is none.
Still, it is a scientific fact that if person maintains an atheistic
mentality, he or she will experience a lot more suffering and
frustration in life than if one connects with Krishna. That is a test
anyone can perform and verify - Krishna consciousness brings greater
happiness in life and atheism brings greater misery and frustration in
life. It’s as simple as that.
What people in general don't understand is that life in the material
world is basically one of suffering and frustration. It is so, because
Krishna has arranged it that way. The reason Krishna has designed it
that way, is because if things were perfect in the material world, the
fallen, lost souls would not want to go back to the spiritual world
and enjoy with Krishna.
They would want to stay in the material world and enjoy the body. This
is what most people want, anyway - stay in the material world and
enjoy their senses. Krishna is even so kind that a soul in the body of
a worm in stool, thinks he is enjoying. Even the souls living under
the most hellish conditions think they are enjoying.
Apart from that, there are heavenly planets where the demigods enjoy
bodily gratification to the max. Anyone can go there by being pious,
following the process devised by God. As a demigod one can enjoy a
subtle body for millions of years. The enjoyment in Heaven, compared
to that of earthlings is like diamonds compared to broken glass.
What’s wrong with heavenly enjoyment is that it culminates in
frustration, because it ends.
From the highest planet in the material world down to the lowest, all
are places of misery wherein repeated birth and death take place. But
one who attains to My abode, O son of KuntI, never takes birth again.
(Bg. 8.16)
So anyone who is serious about becoming free from suffering and obtain
lasting happiness, must surrender to God and His laws. These laws are
explained in the Vedas.
Anyone who disregards the laws of God, anyone who maintains an
atheistic mentality, will suffer repeatedly. That's the proof that
atheism is bad for you. And anyone who chants Krishna's name on a
regular basis will experience great joy and happiness in life. That's
proof that Krishna is good for you. It's as simple as that.
O learned Uddhava, those who fix their consciousness on Me, giving up
all material desires, share with Me a happiness that cannot possibly
be experienced by those engaged in sense gratification. --Srimad
Bhagavatam 11.14.12
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I was gonna guess at what makes a person an atheist, but I won't do that.
If I start making wild guesses like that, I'll be as bad as they are..
Faith is a wild guess, and it's all you have, dumb cunt.
It comes from the bible, a definite book, you idiot.
Moses plagiarised Vedas, so Torah is second hand.
First hand is LORD Krishna and His Vedas.
Moses came long before Vedas.
...not necessarily. The Samhita, the most ancient layer of text in the
Vedas, is thought to have originated around 1700-1200 BC. Given that
the accepted Biblical date for the alleged Exodus is around 1446 BC,
if your fictional Moses character had been real, he could have had
access to this ancient Vedas text.
if he wasn't real there were a lot of egyptions ,
babbling all over about a non existant issue
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2018-12-01 21:22:47 UTC
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...not necessarily. The Samhita, the most ancient layer of text in the
Vedas, is thought to have originated around 1700-1200 BC. Given that
the accepted Biblical date for the alleged Exodus is around 1446 BC,
if your fictional Moses character had been real, he could have had
access to this ancient Vedas text.
I'm sure Moses was a vegetarian. A person who eats meat is
disqualified from understanding God.

Rig Veda:

“One who partakes of human flesh, the flesh of a horse or of another
animal, and deprives others of milk by slaughtering cows, O King, if
such a fiend does not desist by other means, then you should not
hesitate to cut off his head.”

Rig-veda (10.87.16)

Manu-Samhita:

“Meat can never be obtained without injury to living creatures, and
injury to sentient beings is detrimental to the attainment of heavenly
bliss; let him therefore shun the use of meat. Having well considered
the disgusting origin of flesh and the cruelty of fettering and
slaying corporeal beings, let him entirely abstain from eating flesh.”

(Manu-samhita 5.48-49)

“He who permits the slaughter of an animal, he who cuts it up, he who
kills it, he who buys or sells meat, he who cooks it, he who serves it
up, and he who eats it, must all be considered as the slayers of the
animal. There is no greater sinner than that man who though not
worshiping the gods or the ancestors, seeks to increase the bulk of
his own flesh by the flesh of other beings.” (Manu-samhita 5.51-52)

“If he has a strong desire (for meat) he may make an animal of
clarified butter or one of flour (and eat that); but let him never
seek to destroy an animal without a (lawful) reason. As many hairs as
the slain beast has, so often indeed will he who killed it without a
(lawful) reason suffer a violent death in future births.”
(Manu-samhita 5.37-38)

“He who injures harmless creatures from a wish to give himself
pleasure, never finds happiness in this life or the next.”
(Manu-samhita 5.45)

“By subsisting on pure fruits and roots, and by eating food fit for
ascetics in the forest, one does not gain so great a reward as by
entirely avoiding the use of flesh. Me he [mam sah] will devour in the
next world, whose flesh I eat in this life; the wise declare this to
be the real meaning of the word ‘flesh’ [mam sah].” (Manu-samhita
5.54-55)

“He who does not seek to cause the sufferings of bonds and death to
living creatures, (but) desires the good of all (beings), obtains
endless bliss. He who does not injure any (creature) attains without
an effort what he thinks of, what he undertakes, and what he fixes his
mind on.” (Manu-samhita 5.46-47)




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Post by John Locke
...not necessarily. The Samhita, the most ancient layer of text in the
Vedas, is thought to have originated around 1700-1200 BC. Given that
the accepted Biblical date for the alleged Exodus is around 1446 BC,
if your fictional Moses character had been real, he could have had
access to this ancient Vedas text.
I'm sure Moses was a vegetarian. A person who eats meat is
disqualified from understanding God.
“One who partakes of human flesh, the flesh of a horse or of another
animal, and deprives others of milk by slaughtering cows, O King, if
such a fiend does not desist by other means, then you should not
hesitate to cut off his head.”
Rig-veda (10.87.16)
“Meat can never be obtained without injury to living creatures, and
injury to sentient beings is detrimental to the attainment of heavenly
bliss; let him therefore shun the use of meat. Having well considered
the disgusting origin of flesh and the cruelty of fettering and
slaying corporeal beings, let him entirely abstain from eating flesh.”
(Manu-samhita 5.48-49)
“He who permits the slaughter of an animal, he who cuts it up, he who
kills it, he who buys or sells meat, he who cooks it, he who serves it
up, and he who eats it, must all be considered as the slayers of the
animal. There is no greater sinner than that man who though not
worshiping the gods or the ancestors, seeks to increase the bulk of
his own flesh by the flesh of other beings.” (Manu-samhita 5.51-52)
“If he has a strong desire (for meat) he may make an animal of
clarified butter or one of flour (and eat that); but let him never
seek to destroy an animal without a (lawful) reason. As many hairs as
the slain beast has, so often indeed will he who killed it without a
(lawful) reason suffer a violent death in future births.”
(Manu-samhita 5.37-38)
“He who injures harmless creatures from a wish to give himself
pleasure, never finds happiness in this life or the next.”
(Manu-samhita 5.45)
“By subsisting on pure fruits and roots, and by eating food fit for
ascetics in the forest, one does not gain so great a reward as by
entirely avoiding the use of flesh. Me he [mam sah] will devour in the
next world, whose flesh I eat in this life; the wise declare this to
be the real meaning of the word ‘flesh’ [mam sah].” (Manu-samhita
5.54-55)
“He who does not seek to cause the sufferings of bonds and death to
living creatures, (but) desires the good of all (beings), obtains
endless bliss. He who does not injure any (creature) attains without
an effort what he thinks of, what he undertakes, and what he fixes his
mind on.” (Manu-samhita 5.46-47)
https://www.youtube.com/user/jahnudvip?feature=watch
https://picasaweb.google.com/113672947796865733014/Jahnu
http://www.touchtalent.com//artist/118705/jahnu-das
http://youtu.be/B46rjU_q_cM
what if i seek the toilet
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2018-12-01 21:34:15 UTC
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what if i seek the toilet
It's only to be expected that a shit brain like you will seek a
toilet.

Preaching on-line to antagonists, one thing I hear real often is - uh
duh, you can't think for yourself. You need some old books to think
for you.

But the real fact of the matter is that main-stream people would be up
shit's creek without a paddle if they didn't have TV, newspapers and
magazines to tell them what to think and believe. They all say the
same things and have the same values. drive the same cars, eat the
same garbage etc. How is it independent thinking to talk, think and be
like millions of other people?

I would venture to say, that the more a point of view is prevalent in
society, the more people who share a view-point, the less independent
it is.

Practically nobody except the Hare Krishnas think like the Hare
Krishnas, and the Hare Krishnas are a tiny minority of people on the
planet. So actually the Hare Krishnas must be the most independent
type of thinkers.

The Hare Krishna way of thinking is based on an ancient, revealed
science, that has been tried and tested since time immemorial whereas
the thinking of people in mainstream society is dictated by mass media
and Hollywood. So whose thinking is most independent, seriously? That
also begs the question - what is the definition of independent
thinking, and who defines it? If you say, independent thinking is
defined by the majority of people, how is it independent thinking? So
when people tell you, that you have no independent thoughts, they have
no idea what they are talking about. They are merely mindlessly
repeating a slogan.

Next time someone challenges you - you can't think for yourself - ask
that person to name just one single, miniscule, little thought he or
she has come up with by themselves. Let's hear some of your
independent thoughts. That'll stomp anyone... just try. Nothing of
what people in general have to offer are based on independent
thinking.

The real fact is that nobody is thinking independently. Everyone's
thinking is inspired by what they have heard and learned from others.
So what's best? - to be inspired by the ancient teachings of the Vedic
tradition or to be inspired by CNN and Fox news or the garbage they
teach you in school?

"I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad Geeta. It was the first of
books; it was as if an empire spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,
but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an old intelligence which
in another age and climate had pondered and thus disposed of the same
questions which exercise us."
- Ralph Waldo Emerson

Krishna says:

One must deliver himself with the help of his mind, and not degrade
himself. The mind is the friend of the conditioned soul, and his enemy
as well. (Bg. 6.5)

For him who has conquered the mind, the mind is the best of friends;
but for one who has failed to do so, his mind will remain the greatest
enemy. (Bg. 6.6)



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what if i seek the toilet
It's only to be expected that a shit brain like you will seek a
toilet.
Preaching on-line to antagonists, one thing I hear real often is - uh
duh, you can't think for yourself. You need some old books to think
for you.
But the real fact of the matter is that main-stream people would be up
shit's creek without a paddle if they didn't have TV, newspapers and
magazines to tell them what to think and believe. They all say the
same things and have the same values. drive the same cars, eat the
same garbage etc. How is it independent thinking to talk, think and be
like millions of other people?
I would venture to say, that the more a point of view is prevalent in
society, the more people who share a view-point, the less independent
it is.
Practically nobody except the Hare Krishnas think like the Hare
Krishnas, and the Hare Krishnas are a tiny minority of people on the
planet. So actually the Hare Krishnas must be the most independent
type of thinkers.
The Hare Krishna way of thinking is based on an ancient, revealed
science, that has been tried and tested since time immemorial whereas
the thinking of people in mainstream society is dictated by mass media
and Hollywood. So whose thinking is most independent, seriously? That
also begs the question - what is the definition of independent
thinking, and who defines it? If you say, independent thinking is
defined by the majority of people, how is it independent thinking? So
when people tell you, that you have no independent thoughts, they have
no idea what they are talking about. They are merely mindlessly
repeating a slogan.
Next time someone challenges you - you can't think for yourself - ask
that person to name just one single, miniscule, little thought he or
she has come up with by themselves. Let's hear some of your
independent thoughts. That'll stomp anyone... just try. Nothing of
what people in general have to offer are based on independent
thinking.
The real fact is that nobody is thinking independently. Everyone's
thinking is inspired by what they have heard and learned from others.
So what's best? - to be inspired by the ancient teachings of the Vedic
tradition or to be inspired by CNN and Fox news or the garbage they
teach you in school?
"I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad Geeta. It was the first of
books; it was as if an empire spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,
but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an old intelligence which
in another age and climate had pondered and thus disposed of the same
questions which exercise us."
- Ralph Waldo Emerson
One must deliver himself with the help of his mind, and not degrade
himself. The mind is the friend of the conditioned soul, and his enemy
as well. (Bg. 6.5)
For him who has conquered the mind, the mind is the best of friends;
but for one who has failed to do so, his mind will remain the greatest
enemy. (Bg. 6.6)
https://www.youtube.com/user/jahnudvip?feature=watch
https://picasaweb.google.com/113672947796865733014/Jahnu
http://www.touchtalent.com//artist/118705/jahnu-das
http://youtu.be/B46rjU_q_cM
so can you think for yourself you failed to answer that
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2018-12-02 19:30:47 UTC
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what if i seek the toilet
It's only to be expected that a shit brain like you will seek a
toilet.
Most people will under certain circumstances.
You shit in the river, with the corpses, while
doing your laundry. Need a video?
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“One who partakes of human flesh, the flesh of a horse or of another
animal, and deprives others of milk by slaughtering cows, O King, if
such a fiend does not desist by other means, then you should not
hesitate to cut off his head.”
Pagan atheistic beliefs.

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Pagan atheistic beliefs.
The pagans of yore were more God-conscious than a meat-eating demon
like you, that's a fact. In fact, you are worse off than any atheist.
You are headed straight for hell.

Krishna says:

Bewildered by false ego, strength, pride, lust and anger, the demons
become envious of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, who is situated
in their own bodies and in the bodies of others, and blaspheme against
the real religion. (Bg. 16.18)

Those who are envious and mischievous, who are the lowest among men, I
perpetually cast into the ocean of material existence, into various
demoniac species of life. (Bg. 16. 19)

Attaining repeated birth amongst the species of demoniac life, O son
of Kunti, such persons can never approach Me. Gradually they sink down
to the most abominable type of existence. (Bg. 16.20)

There are three gates leading to this hell?lust, anger and greed.
Every sane man should give these up, for they lead to the degradation
of the soul. (Bg. 16.21)

The man who has escaped these three gates of hell, O son of Kunti,
performs acts conducive to self-realization and thus gradually attains
the supreme destination. (Bg. 16.22)

He who discards scriptural injunctions and acts according to his own
whims attains neither perfection, nor happiness, nor the supreme
destination. (Bg. 16.23)

One should therefore understand what is duty and what is not duty by
the regulations of the scriptures. Knowing such rules and regulations,
one should act so that he may gradually be elevated. (Bg. 16.24)




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2018-12-03 23:23:54 UTC
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Pagan atheistic beliefs.
The pagans of yore were more God-conscious than a meat-eating demon
like you, that's a fact. In fact, you are worse off than any atheist.
You are headed straight for hell.
Matthew 15:11 New International Version (NIV)
11 What goes into someone’s mouth does not defile them, but what comes out of
their mouth, that is what defiles them.”
Post by Jahnu
Bewildered by false ego, strength, pride, lust and anger, the demons
become envious of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, who is situated
in their own bodies and in the bodies of others, and blaspheme against
the real religion. (Bg. 16.18)
Those who are envious and mischievous, who are the lowest among men, I
perpetually cast into the ocean of material existence, into various
demoniac species of life. (Bg. 16. 19)
Attaining repeated birth amongst the species of demoniac life, O son
of Kunti, such persons can never approach Me. Gradually they sink down
to the most abominable type of existence. (Bg. 16.20)
There are three gates leading to this hell?lust, anger and greed.
Every sane man should give these up, for they lead to the degradation
of the soul. (Bg. 16.21)
The man who has escaped these three gates of hell, O son of Kunti,
performs acts conducive to self-realization and thus gradually attains
the supreme destination. (Bg. 16.22)
He who discards scriptural injunctions and acts according to his own
whims attains neither perfection, nor happiness, nor the supreme
destination. (Bg. 16.23)
One should therefore understand what is duty and what is not duty by
the regulations of the scriptures. Knowing such rules and regulations,
one should act so that he may gradually be elevated. (Bg. 16.24)
https://www.youtube.com/user/jahnudvip?feature=watch
https://picasaweb.google.com/113672947796865733014/Jahnu
http://www.touchtalent.com//artist/118705/jahnu-das
http://youtu.be/B46rjU_q_cM
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Matthew 15:11 New International Version (NIV)
11 What goes into someone’s mouth does not defile them, but what comes out of
their mouth, that is what defiles them.”
Vishnu says:

When one is envious of the demigods, who represent the Supreme
Personality of Godhead, of the Vedas, which give all knowledge, of the
cows, brahmanas, Vaisnavas and religious principles, and ultimately of
Me, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, he and his civilization will
be vanquished without delay. -- Srimad Bhagavatam 7.4.27





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Matthew 15:11 New International Version (NIV)
11 What goes into someone’s mouth does not defile them, but what comes out of
their mouth, that is what defiles them.”
When one is envious of the demigods, who represent the Supreme
Personality of Godhead, of the Vedas, which give all knowledge, of the
cows, brahmanas, Vaisnavas and religious principles, and ultimately of
Me, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, he and his civilization will
be vanquished without delay. -- Srimad Bhagavatam 7.4.27
Vishnu is one of the most important gods in the Hindu pantheon and, along with
Brahma and Shiva, is considered a member of the holy trinity (trimurti) of
Hinduism.He is the most important god of Vaishnaism, the largest Hindu sect.
Indeed, to illustrate Vishnu’s superior status, Brahma is, in some accounts,
considered to have been born from a lotus flower which grew from Vishnu’s naval.

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Vishnu is one of the most important gods in the Hindu pantheon and, along with
Brahma and Shiva, is considered a member of the holy trinity (trimurti) of
Hinduism.He is the most important god of Vaishnaism, the largest Hindu sect.
Indeed, to illustrate Vishnu’s superior status, Brahma is, in some accounts,
considered to have been born from a lotus flower which grew from Vishnu’s naval.
"Simply by chanting one holy name of Hari, a sinful man can counteract
the reactions to more sins than he can commit." (Brihad-vishnu Purana)

Actually, Krishna doesn't care about your sins. A person couldn't even
be sinful without God's help, because we need nature's help to act,
whether we want to perform sinful activities or pious activities.
It is not until a soul sincerely desires to know God, that Krishna
takes a personal interest in him/her.

As long as we do not desire to know God, as long as we simply want to
enjoy the body and its relations, we are in the hands of mother
Nature. Mother nature is God's illusory potency called Maya, and Maya
is conducted by the three modes of material nature.

Whether we are pious or sinful does not really concern Krishna. Of
course, it is better to be pious than sinful, since we then are less
harmful to nature and her inhabitants, but it is not until we take a
personal interest in God as a person, that He takes an interest in us.

Krishna says:

The spirit soul bewildered by the influence of false ego thinks
himself the doer of activities that are in actuality carried out by
the three modes of material nature. -Bg 3.27

Srila Prabhupada says:

Two persons, one in Krishna consciousness and the other in material
consciousness, working on the same level, may appear to be working on
the same platform, but there is a wide gulf of difference in their
respective positions.

The person in material consciousness is convinced by false ego that he
is the doer of everything. He does not know that the mechanism of the
body is produced by material nature, which works under the supervision
of the Supreme Lord.

The materialistic person has no knowledge that ultimately he is under
the control of Krishna. The person in false ego takes all credit for
doing everything independently, and that is the symptom of his
nescience.

He does not know that this gross and subtle body is the creation of
material nature, under the order of the Supreme Personality of
Godhead, and as such his bodily and mental activities should be
engaged in the service of Krishna, in Krishna consciousness.

The ignorant man forgets that the Supreme Personality of Godhead is
known as Hrsikesa, or the master of the senses of the material body,
for due to his long misuse of the senses in sense gratification, he is
factually bewildered by the false ego, which makes him forget his
eternal relationship with Krishna.




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Vishnu is one of the most important gods in the Hindu pantheon and, along with
Brahma and Shiva, is considered a member of the holy trinity (trimurti) of
Hinduism.He is the most important god of Vaishnaism, the largest Hindu sect.
Indeed, to illustrate Vishnu’s superior status, Brahma is, in some accounts,
considered to have been born from a lotus flower which grew from Vishnu’s naval.
"Simply by chanting one holy name of Hari, a sinful man can counteract
the reactions to more sins than he can commit." (Brihad-vishnu Purana)
Actually, Krishna doesn't care about your sins. A person couldn't even
be sinful without God's help, because we need nature's help to act,
whether we want to perform sinful activities or pious activities.
It is not until a soul sincerely desires to know God, that Krishna
takes a personal interest in him/her.
You shouldn't take Dookie too seriously. He's just miffed that your
religion's load of horse-pucky is more colorful than his own.
Jahnu
2018-12-06 21:04:42 UTC
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You shouldn't take Dookie too seriously. He's just miffed that your
religion's load of horse-pucky is more colorful than his own.
Science can't explain anything about existence. The only things known
in science are the chemical reactions of matter. So, science can only
explain about matter.

Since life is a non-material phenomenon, science has nothing to say
about life.

Life is our conscious experience of the world, and since science has
nothing sensible to say about conscious awareness, it is utterly
useless, when it comes to explaining love, hate, happiness, distress,
jealousy etc.

So the statement - one day science will explain every thing - is
false. Science cannot even explain the most fundamental aspect of
existence, namely conscious awareness, what to speak of everything.

"Science is ghastly silent about all and sundry that is really near to
our heart, that really matters to us. It cannot tell us about red and
blue, bitter and sweet, beautiful and ugly, good or bad, God and
eternity. Science sometimes pretends to answer questions in these
domains, but the answers are often so silly that we are not inclined
to take them seriously."

-Erwin Schrodinger, a Nobel prize winning physicist

Next time you suffer from frustration in love or being miserable due
to lack of money, why don't you approach a material scientist and have
him tell you about the chemical reactions in your brain, and see if it
makes you feel any better, knowing that.

After that you can approach a spiritual scientist and have him tell
you about how knowledge of God will free you from all suffering and
make you full of joy.

Krishna says:

My dear Arjuna, because you are never envious of Me, I shall impart to
you this most confidential knowledge and realization, knowing which
you shall be relieved of the miseries of material existence. (Bg. 9.1)

This knowledge is the king of education, the most secret of all
secrets. It is the purest knowledge, and because it gives direct
perception of the self by realization, it is the perfection of
religion. It is everlasting, and it is joyfully performed. (Bg. 9.2)




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2018-12-12 05:56:59 UTC
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“One who partakes of human flesh, the flesh of a horse or of another
animal, and deprives others of milk by slaughtering cows, O King, if
such a fiend does not desist by other means, then you should not
hesitate to cut off his head.”
Pagan atheistic beliefs.
Please explain how.
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2018-12-12 12:42:39 UTC
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“One who partakes of human flesh, the flesh of a horse or of another
animal, and deprives others of milk by slaughtering cows, O King, if
such a fiend does not desist by other means, then you should not
hesitate to cut off his head.”
Pagan atheistic beliefs.
Please explain how.
1 Corinthians 10:25-26 New International Version (NIV)
25 Eat anything sold in the meat market without raising questions of conscience,
26 for, “The earth is the Lord’s, and everything in it.”

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duke
2018-12-02 15:10:13 UTC
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Moses came long before Vedas.
...not necessarily. The Samhita, the most ancient layer of text in the
Vedas, is thought to have originated around 1700-1200 BC. Given that
the accepted Biblical date for the alleged Exodus is around 1446 BC,
if your fictional Moses character had been real, he could have had
access to this ancient Vedas text.
The Exodus came hundreds of years after Egyptian slavery history. Genesis goes
back to the very beginnings of all things. Roughly 4000 BC is "recorded
history". And man was around long, long before that.

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2018-12-02 15:11:38 UTC
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Moses came long before Vedas.
...not necessarily. The Samhita, the most ancient layer of text in the
Vedas, is thought to have originated around 1700-1200 BC. Given that
the accepted Biblical date for the alleged Exodus is around 1446 BC,
if your fictional Moses character had been real, he could have had
access to this ancient Vedas text.
The Exodus came hundreds of years after Egyptian slavery history. Genesis goes
back to the very beginnings of all things. Roughly 4000 BC is "recorded
history". And man was around long, long before that.
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i was here posting then
duke
2018-12-03 23:24:38 UTC
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Moses came long before Vedas.
...not necessarily. The Samhita, the most ancient layer of text in the
Vedas, is thought to have originated around 1700-1200 BC. Given that
the accepted Biblical date for the alleged Exodus is around 1446 BC,
if your fictional Moses character had been real, he could have had
access to this ancient Vedas text.
The Exodus came hundreds of years after Egyptian slavery history. Genesis goes
back to the very beginnings of all things. Roughly 4000 BC is "recorded
history". And man was around long, long before that.
i was here posting then
Then you lost it.

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Moses came long before Vedas.
...not necessarily. The Samhita, the most ancient layer of text in the
Vedas, is thought to have originated around 1700-1200 BC. Given that
the accepted Biblical date for the alleged Exodus is around 1446 BC,
if your fictional Moses character had been real, he could have had
access to this ancient Vedas text.
The Exodus came hundreds of years after Egyptian slavery history. Genesis goes
back to the very beginnings of all things. Roughly 4000 BC is "recorded
history". And man was around long, long before that.
i was here posting then
Then you lost it.
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then i parted it
duke
2018-12-04 21:14:41 UTC
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Moses came long before Vedas.
...not necessarily. The Samhita, the most ancient layer of text in the
Vedas, is thought to have originated around 1700-1200 BC. Given that
the accepted Biblical date for the alleged Exodus is around 1446 BC,
if your fictional Moses character had been real, he could have had
access to this ancient Vedas text.
The Exodus came hundreds of years after Egyptian slavery history. Genesis goes
back to the very beginnings of all things. Roughly 4000 BC is "recorded
history". And man was around long, long before that.
i was here posting then
Then you lost it.
then i parted it
Farted it?

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2018-12-02 15:59:49 UTC
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Moses came long before Vedas.
...not necessarily. The Samhita, the most ancient layer of text in the
Vedas, is thought to have originated around 1700-1200 BC. Given that
the accepted Biblical date for the alleged Exodus is around 1446 BC,
if your fictional Moses character had been real, he could have had
access to this ancient Vedas text.
The Exodus came hundreds of years after Egyptian slavery history. Genesis goes
back to the very beginnings of all things. Roughly 4000 BC is "recorded
history". And man was around long, long before that.
...the Bible doesn't count as "recorded history" and there was no
Hebrew slavery in Egypt. Archeology digs of various ancient worker
quarters in Egypt gives us evidence that construction projects were
manned by workers conscripted out of the local Egyptian population.
duke
2018-12-03 23:25:26 UTC
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Moses came long before Vedas.
...not necessarily. The Samhita, the most ancient layer of text in the
Vedas, is thought to have originated around 1700-1200 BC. Given that
the accepted Biblical date for the alleged Exodus is around 1446 BC,
if your fictional Moses character had been real, he could have had
access to this ancient Vedas text.
The Exodus came hundreds of years after Egyptian slavery history. Genesis goes
back to the very beginnings of all things. Roughly 4000 BC is "recorded
history". And man was around long, long before that.
...the Bible doesn't count as "recorded history" and there was no
Hebrew slavery in Egypt. Archeology digs of various ancient worker
quarters in Egypt gives us evidence that construction projects were
manned by workers conscripted out of the local Egyptian population.
Does that mean they only hired local people/

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2018-12-04 00:36:12 UTC
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Moses came long before Vedas.
...not necessarily. The Samhita, the most ancient layer of text in the
Vedas, is thought to have originated around 1700-1200 BC. Given that
the accepted Biblical date for the alleged Exodus is around 1446 BC,
if your fictional Moses character had been real, he could have had
access to this ancient Vedas text.
The Exodus came hundreds of years after Egyptian slavery history. Genesis goes
back to the very beginnings of all things. Roughly 4000 BC is "recorded
history". And man was around long, long before that.
...the Bible doesn't count as "recorded history" and there was no
Hebrew slavery in Egypt. Archeology digs of various ancient worker
quarters in Egypt gives us evidence that construction projects were
manned by workers conscripted out of the local Egyptian population.
Does that mean they only hired local people/
...they weren't exactly hired. It was mandatory to serve the
king...sort of like being drafted into the army. It was a great
honor.The workers in return had nice quarters, plenty of quality food
and in general were very well cared for.
duke
2018-12-04 21:16:15 UTC
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Moses came long before Vedas.
...not necessarily. The Samhita, the most ancient layer of text in the
Vedas, is thought to have originated around 1700-1200 BC. Given that
the accepted Biblical date for the alleged Exodus is around 1446 BC,
if your fictional Moses character had been real, he could have had
access to this ancient Vedas text.
The Exodus came hundreds of years after Egyptian slavery history. Genesis goes
back to the very beginnings of all things. Roughly 4000 BC is "recorded
history". And man was around long, long before that.
...the Bible doesn't count as "recorded history" and there was no
Hebrew slavery in Egypt. Archeology digs of various ancient worker
quarters in Egypt gives us evidence that construction projects were
manned by workers conscripted out of the local Egyptian population.
Does that mean they only hired local people/
...they weren't exactly hired. It was mandatory to serve the
king...sort of like being drafted into the army. It was a great
honor.The workers in return had nice quarters, plenty of quality food
and in general were very well cared for.
And with all those Hebrews to boot.

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2018-12-12 06:07:47 UTC
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Moses came long before Vedas.
...not necessarily. The Samhita, the most ancient layer of text in the
Vedas, is thought to have originated around 1700-1200 BC. Given that
the accepted Biblical date for the alleged Exodus is around 1446 BC,
if your fictional Moses character had been real, he could have had
access to this ancient Vedas text.
The Exodus came hundreds of years after Egyptian slavery history. Genesis goes
back to the very beginnings of all things. Roughly 4000 BC is "recorded
history". And man was around long, long before that.
...the Bible doesn't count as "recorded history" and there was no
Hebrew slavery in Egypt. Archeology digs of various ancient worker
quarters in Egypt gives us evidence that construction projects were
manned by workers conscripted out of the local Egyptian population.
That seems to be the generally accepted idea these days.

https://harvardmagazine.com/2003/07/who-built-the-pyramids-html
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2018-12-12 04:25:40 UTC
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Moses plagiarised Vedas, so Torah is second hand.
First hand is LORD Krishna and His Vedas.
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Go LORD Krishna (Jesus Christ)!
Is this Jesper in drag?
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2018-12-12 11:32:42 UTC
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Moses plagiarised Vedas, so Torah is second hand.
First hand is LORD Krishna and His Vedas.
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Go LORD Krishna (Jesus Christ)!
Is this Jesper in drag?
I thought Donna Stone was Donna Reed?

I always thought that Shelley Fabares was cute.

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I thought Donna Stone was Donna Reed?
Seriously, who gives a shit what you thought?
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I always thought that mah momma was cute.
No doubt ...

In 100 words or less can someone explain the theory of evolution?

The theory of evolution does not at all concern itself with how the
first life came about, only with how life mutated into different
species, once it had emanated from a pool of chemicals.

I know, right?, it sounds totally idiotic, but here goes - first there
was an amoeba-like creature, then, through many, many intermediary
transformations, the amoeba mutated into different species that
eventually grew legs and learned to talk.

Now, it's not exactly like the amoeba grew legs and learned to talk,
you have to understand, it happened over a period of millions of years
and through many. many intermediary, gradual mutations.

Now, the funny thing about Darwin's theory, apart from the fact that
you have to be a total retard to come up with shit like that, is that
the theory, even though there is no evidence what so ever to back it
up, in fact, even though it is pure wishful thinking, the theory is
being taught as a scientific fact in all the world's educational
institutions.

There is some food for though...

"We must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian
accounts of the evolution of any biochemical or cellular system, only
a variety of wishful speculations." -- Franklin Harold, Emeritus
Professor of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology at Colorado State
University, in an Oxford University Press text.

Krishna says:

The living entities in this conditioned world are My eternal
fragmental parts. Due to conditioned life, they are struggling very
hard with the six senses, which include the mind.

The living entity in the material world carries his different
conceptions of life from one body to another, as the air carries
aromas. Thus he takes one kind of body and again quits it to take
another.

The living entity, thus taking another gross body, obtains a certain
type of ear, eye, tongue, nose and sense of touch, which are grouped
about the mind. He thus enjoys a particular set of sense objects.

The foolish cannot understand how a living entity can quit his body,
nor can they understand what sort of body he enjoys under the spell of
the modes of nature. But one whose eyes are trained in knowledge can
see all this.

The endeavoring transcendentalists who are situated in
self-realization can see all this clearly. But those whose minds are
not developed and who are not situated in self-realization cannot see
what is taking place, though they may try.

- Bhagavad-gita 15.7-11





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2018-12-01 18:51:54 UTC
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One becomes an atheist when there is no desire to have God in one’s
life. Atheists define themselves as people who lack any kind of
belief, but that’s obviously false, for atheists believe in all kinds
of stuff, even the most improbable nonsense like abiogenesis or
evolution. In fact, it seems atheists are willing to believe anything,
just as long as it doesn’t involve God.
"When people stop believing in God, they don't believe in nothing --
they believe in anything." -- GK Chesterton
Atheists always go on and on about proof and evidence. They seem to
forget that their own belief system - abiogenesis, which is the weird
idea that matter creates life - is completely unfounded, blind belief.
Yet, atheists never demand proof of that.
So atheism, obviously, is not really about proof of this or evidence
of that. In fact, there is nothing an atheist would like less than
proof of God. The default position of an atheist, regarding proof of
God - there is none.
Still, it is a scientific fact that if person maintains an atheistic
mentality, he or she will experience a lot more suffering and
frustration in life than if one connects with Krishna. That is a test
anyone can perform and verify - Krishna consciousness brings greater
happiness in life and atheism brings greater misery and frustration in
life. It’s as simple as that.
What people in general don't understand is that life in the material
world is basically one of suffering and frustration. It is so, because
Krishna has arranged it that way. The reason Krishna has designed it
that way, is because if things were perfect in the material world, the
fallen, lost souls would not want to go back to the spiritual world
and enjoy with Krishna.
They would want to stay in the material world and enjoy the body. This
is what most people want, anyway - stay in the material world and
enjoy their senses. Krishna is even so kind that a soul in the body of
a worm in stool, thinks he is enjoying. Even the souls living under
the most hellish conditions think they are enjoying.
Apart from that, there are heavenly planets where the demigods enjoy
bodily gratification to the max. Anyone can go there by being pious,
following the process devised by God. As a demigod one can enjoy a
subtle body for millions of years. The enjoyment in Heaven, compared
to that of earthlings is like diamonds compared to broken glass.
What’s wrong with heavenly enjoyment is that it culminates in
frustration, because it ends.
From the highest planet in the material world down to the lowest, all
are places of misery wherein repeated birth and death take place. But
one who attains to My abode, O son of KuntI, never takes birth again.
(Bg. 8.16)
So anyone who is serious about becoming free from suffering and obtain
lasting happiness, must surrender to God and His laws. These laws are
explained in the Vedas.
Anyone who disregards the laws of God, anyone who maintains an
atheistic mentality, will suffer repeatedly. That's the proof that
atheism is bad for you. And anyone who chants Krishna's name on a
regular basis will experience great joy and happiness in life. That's
proof that Krishna is good for you. It's as simple as that.
O learned Uddhava, those who fix their consciousness on Me, giving up
all material desires, share with Me a happiness that cannot possibly
be experienced by those engaged in sense gratification. --Srimad
Bhagavatam 11.14.12
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I was gonna guess at what makes a person an atheist, but I won't do that.
If I start making wild guesses like that, I'll be as bad as they are..
Faith is a wild guess, and it's all you have, dumb cunt.
It comes from the bible, a definite book, you idiot.
No it doesn't, you ignorant cunt.
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One becomes an atheist when...
...it finally dawns on one that religion is just a bunch
of fucking hooey !
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2018-12-02 06:41:42 UTC
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One becomes an atheist when there is no desire to have God in one’s
life.
One becomes an atheist when they realize that what they desire to be true
has no bearing on what actually *IS* true. It takes a certain level of
intellectual maturity that many theists never reach.
--
MarkA

You can safely assume that you have created God in your own image when it
turns out that God hates all the same people you do. -- Anne Lamott
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2018-12-02 07:56:04 UTC
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One becomes an atheist when they realize that what they desire to be true
has no bearing on what actually *IS* true. It takes a certain level of
intellectual maturity that many theists never reach.
Atheists are intellectually unevolved humans. Atheism is a disease of
the mind.

Krishna Consciousness is the highest level of awareness to be
obtained. It means to be aware of God and getting to know Him in order
to love Him purely.

The next higher level is to be aware of the difference between matter
and spirit, to be aware that the self is spirit, consciousness, and
thus different to matter. Tat tvam asi - I am that, I am Brahman.

Lower than that is to be aware of right and wrong, to be aware of
dharma. That’s civilized mentality and includes atheism.

On the lowest platform of awareness, the animal platform, one is aware
only of eating, sleeping, mating and defending.

The Vedas mention an evolution of consciousness.

The consciousness of the soul evolves through a progression of species
of life.

This evolution of consciousness progresses gradually from fish,
plants, insects, reptiles, birds, animals and then to humans.

"There are 900,000 species of aquatic life; 2,000,000 species of
plants and trees; 1,100,000 species of insects; 1,000,000 species of
bird life; 3,000,000 species of beasts, and 400,000 species of human
life." —Padma Purana

"One attains the human form of life after transmigrating through
8,400,000 species by the process of gradual evolution. That human life
is spoiled for those conceited fools who do not take shelter of the
lotus feet of Govinda."--Brahma-vaivarta Purana

And then, finally, after having attained the human form of life, the
soul is given the opportunity of the consciousness to evolve from
Sraddha to Prema, meaning an evolution from faith in God to love of
God. Obviously, to love God, one needs to know Him first.
In the science of bhakti, or devotion to God, the consciousness
evolves through 9 stages:

1. sraddha - faith
2. sadhu-sanga - association with saintly people
3. bhajana kriya - following and practicing devotional principles
4. anartha nivritti - purifying the mind from material contamination
5. nistha - becoming steady in one’s practice, sadhana
6. ruchi - taste for Krishna
7. asakti - attachment to Krishna
8. bhava - the dawning of pure love of God
9. prema - pure, unalloyed love for Krishna

Visvanath Chakravarti Thakur explains that the 4th step, purifying
material contamination from the heart, is the hardest stage to go
through; he describes *anartha nivritti *as an ocean of contamination
accumulated over countless of life-times, and it can take many lives
to traverse that great ocean.

That’s why Rupa Goswami says - utsahan nischayad dhairyat -
enthusiasm, perseverance and determination are necessary ingredients
to advance in sadhana.

One has to be patient and enthusiastic to continue on the path of
bhakti even when the process of becoming purified in most cases is
very graduate.

The result of becoming free from suffering and developing some little
taste for devotional service is immediate, but to attain to the final
goal, prema, can take many life-times… except Srila Prabhupada said it
can be done in this one life-time, by his mercy. If we surrender to
Srila Prabhupada we can make this our last life.

"One attains the human form of life after transmigrating through
8,400,000 species by the process of gradual evolution. That human life
is spoiled for those conceited fools who do not take shelter of the
lotus feet of Govinda." --Brahma-vaivarta Purana

Krishn says:

After many births and deaths, he who is actually in knowledge
surrenders unto Me, knowing Me to be the cause of all causes and all
that is. Such a great soul is very rare. (Bg 7.19)




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2018-12-02 08:20:36 UTC
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One becomes an atheist when they realize that what they desire to be true
has no bearing on what actually *IS* true. It takes a certain level of
intellectual maturity that many theists never reach.
Atheists are intellectually unevolved humans. Atheism is a disease of
the mind.
I see opposite... you are brainwashed so you think that brainwashing
works.... you are like bug that pushes ball upstream to fall down and
again and again...
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John Locke
2018-12-02 08:09:08 UTC
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One becomes an atheist when there is no desire to have God in one?s
life.
One becomes an atheist when they realize that what they desire to be true
has no bearing on what actually *IS* true. It takes a certain level of
intellectual maturity that many theists never reach.
...exactly. None of the religious trolls in this group have ever
reached that level. Maybe it's really true...ignorance is bliss !
Melzzzzz
2018-12-02 08:26:15 UTC
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One becomes an atheist when there is no desire to have God in one?s
life.
One becomes an atheist when they realize that what they desire to be true
has no bearing on what actually *IS* true. It takes a certain level of
intellectual maturity that many theists never reach.
...exactly. None of the religious trolls in this group have ever
reached that level. Maybe it's really true...ignorance is bliss !
People are blinded by faith...
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v***@gmail.com
2018-12-02 10:51:33 UTC
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One becomes an atheist when there is no desire to have God in one?s
life.
One becomes an atheist when they realize that what they desire to be true
has no bearing on what actually *IS* true. It takes a certain level of
intellectual maturity that many theists never reach.
...exactly. None of the religious trolls in this group have ever
reached that level. Maybe it's really true...ignorance is bliss !
You are assuming that religion has complete control over a man's thoughts, which is only true for a small minority.(like Orthodox Jews)
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2018-12-02 12:41:37 UTC
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One becomes an atheist when there is no desire to have God in one?s
life.
One becomes an atheist when they realize that what they desire to be true
has no bearing on what actually*IS* true. It takes a certain level of
intellectual maturity that many theists never reach.
...exactly. None of the religious trolls in this group have ever
reached that level. Maybe it's really true...ignorance is bliss !
If ignorance is bliss, Duke and Bob and Patrick are in a perpetual state
of orgasm.
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2018-12-02 15:40:50 UTC
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One becomes an atheist when there is no desire to have God in one?s
life.
One becomes an atheist when they realize that what they desire to be true
has no bearing on what actually*IS* true. It takes a certain level of
intellectual maturity that many theists never reach.
...exactly. None of the religious trolls in this group have ever
reached that level. Maybe it's really true...ignorance is bliss !
If ignorance is bliss, Duke and Bob and Patrick are in a perpetual state
of orgasm.
I suspect their idea is more like a lobotomy, silly inane giggling,
dumb smiles, and a lot of drooling. They are probably too old and
demented to remember what an orgasm is.
Bob
2018-12-02 17:25:13 UTC
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Post by linuxgal
If ignorance is bliss, Duke and Bob and Patrick are in a perpetual state
of orgasm.
But isn't it kind of funny that we're all you guys can talk about.

We theists are the main topic of conversation here in alt.atheism.

It almost proves what G. K. Chesterton once said, "If there were no God
there would be no Atheists".

Go figure.

Anyway, I think it's funny.

Have a nice day, and thanks for the confirmation.

<smirk>
linuxgal
2018-12-02 22:56:37 UTC
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If ignorance is bliss, Duke and Bob and Patrick are in a perpetual state
of orgasm.
But isn't it kind of funny that we're all you guys can talk about.
We theists are the main topic of conversation here in alt.atheism.
Exodus then diverges into a family record of the sons of Levi: Gershon,
and Kohath, and Merari, and Levi died at the age of 137 years. Then
Korath begat Amram, who married his aunt Jochebed, and Korath died at
the age of 133 years. And Amram was the father of Aaron and Moses,
before he died at the age of 137 years. Even considering that Moses was
eighty years old at this time, there are not enough generations listed
to fill the 430 years between the time Levi moved to Egypt with his
father Jacob and the Exodus. That 430 years is called out in Exodus
12:40. The forefathers of Moses would have each had to have lived at
least 180 years to make the math work.

https://badinage1.wordpress.com/2018/12/02/exodus-6/
Bob
2018-12-03 02:29:48 UTC
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If ignorance is bliss, Duke and Bob and Patrick are in a perpetual state
of orgasm.
But isn't it kind of funny that we're all you guys can talk about.
We theists are the main topic of conversation here in alt.atheism.
It almost proves what G. K. Chesterton once said, "If there were no
God there would be no Atheists".
Go figure.
Anyway, I think it's funny.
Have a nice day, and thanks for the confirmation.
Exodus then diverges into a family record of the sons of Levi: Gershon,
and Kohath, and Merari, and Levi died at the age of 137 years. Then
Korath begat Amram, who married his aunt Jochebed, and Korath died at
the age of 133 years. And Amram was the father of Aaron and Moses,
before he died at the age of 137 years. Even considering that Moses was
eighty years old at this time, there are not enough generations listed
to fill the 430 years between the time Levi moved to Egypt with his
father Jacob and the Exodus. That 430 years is called out in Exodus
12:40. The forefathers of Moses would have each had to have lived at
least 180 years to make the math work.
Uh huh, I see. Do you really want to know the answer, or are you just
trying your best to get something started? If you're just trying to get
something started, I'll let you. Then after it's been started for, oh I
don't
know, a few days, I'll let all the air out of your balloon and tell you (and
the rest of the world) where you're wrong, again. But if you really want
to know where the problem is with all the numbers, I can tell you that.
But, you're going to have to convince me that you really want to know.
I'll be honest with you, that's going to take a lot of convincing. I mean
you've got a rap sheet full of lies so far that you don't seem to be too
concerned with getting cleared up and wiped clean.

But I'll also be merciful to you and give you a hint on where you can
start looking for the answer yourself, instead of looking for a handout.

Galatians 3:17. And use a different translation besides the KJV this time.
You won't be as confused. Go to https://biblehub.com/galatians/3-17.htm

Is there anything in that verse that jumps off the page, so to speak, and
immediately grabs your attention?

Okay then. You can take it from there, it's all yours.

Just remember: Google is your friend.

You're welcome.
Jahnu
2018-12-03 07:16:20 UTC
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Just remember: Google is your friend.
You're welcome.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/rabbi-david-wolpe/why-are-atheists-so-angry_b_833662.html



https://www.youtube.com/user/jahnudvip?feature=watch

https://picasaweb.google.com/113672947796865733014/Jahnu

http://www.touchtalent.com//artist/118705/jahnu-das

http://youtu.be/B46rjU_q_cM
Don Martin
2018-12-03 22:23:09 UTC
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If ignorance is bliss, Duke and Bob and Patrick are in a perpetual state
of orgasm.
But isn't it kind of funny that we're all you guys can talk about.
We theists are the main topic of conversation here in alt.atheism.
Exodus then diverges into a family record of the sons of Levi: Gershon,
and Kohath, and Merari, and Levi died at the age of 137 years. Then
Korath begat Amram, who married his aunt Jochebed, and Korath died at
the age of 133 years. And Amram was the father of Aaron and Moses,
before he died at the age of 137 years. Even considering that Moses was
eighty years old at this time, there are not enough generations listed
to fill the 430 years between the time Levi moved to Egypt with his
father Jacob and the Exodus. That 430 years is called out in Exodus
12:40. The forefathers of Moses would have each had to have lived at
least 180 years to make the math work.
https://badinage1.wordpress.com/2018/12/02/exodus-6/
--
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
Je pense, donc je suis Charlie.
Don Martin
2018-12-03 22:23:09 UTC
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If ignorance is bliss, Duke and Bob and Patrick are in a perpetual state
of orgasm.
But isn't it kind of funny that we're all you guys can talk about.
We theists are the main topic of conversation here in alt.atheism.
Exodus then diverges into a family record of the sons of Levi: Gershon,
and Kohath, and Merari, and Levi died at the age of 137 years. Then
Korath begat Amram, who married his aunt Jochebed, and Korath died at
the age of 133 years. And Amram was the father of Aaron and Moses,
before he died at the age of 137 years. Even considering that Moses was
eighty years old at this time, there are not enough generations listed
to fill the 430 years between the time Levi moved to Egypt with his
father Jacob and the Exodus. That 430 years is called out in Exodus
12:40. The forefathers of Moses would have each had to have lived at
least 180 years to make the math work.
https://badinage1.wordpress.com/2018/12/02/exodus-6/
Hey _you_ try dividing CCCXXX by CXXXVII and see how you make out!
--
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
Je pense, donc je suis Charlie.
Gronk
2018-12-12 04:06:20 UTC
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Knowledge.
m***@gmail.com
2018-12-12 06:16:09 UTC
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If ignorance is bliss, Duke and Bob and Patrick are in a perpetual state
of orgasm.
But isn't it kind of funny that we're all you guys can talk about.
We theists are the main topic of conversation here in alt.atheism.
Exodus then diverges into a family record of the sons of Levi: Gershon,
and Kohath, and Merari, and Levi died at the age of 137 years. Then
Korath begat Amram, who married his aunt Jochebed, and Korath died at
the age of 133 years. And Amram was the father of Aaron and Moses,
before he died at the age of 137 years. Even considering that Moses was
eighty years old at this time, there are not enough generations listed
to fill the 430 years between the time Levi moved to Egypt with his
father Jacob and the Exodus. That 430 years is called out in Exodus
12:40. The forefathers of Moses would have each had to have lived at
least 180 years to make the math work.
https://badinage1.wordpress.com/2018/12/02/exodus-6/
Hey _you_ try dividing CCCXXX by CXXXVII and see how you make out!
II with LVI left over.
Don Martin
2018-12-02 18:03:13 UTC
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Post by John Locke
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One becomes an atheist when there is no desire to have God in one?s
life.
One becomes an atheist when they realize that what they desire to be true
has no bearing on what actually*IS* true. It takes a certain level of
intellectual maturity that many theists never reach.
...exactly. None of the religious trolls in this group have ever
reached that level. Maybe it's really true...ignorance is bliss !
If ignorance is bliss, Duke and Bob and Patrick are in a perpetual state
of orgasm.
Without the expense of Viagra.
--
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
Je pense, donc je suis Charlie.
v***@gmail.com
2018-12-02 10:50:25 UTC
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One becomes an atheist when there is no desire to have God in one’s
life.
One becomes an atheist when they realize that what they desire to be true
has no bearing on what actually *IS* true. It takes a certain level of
intellectual maturity that many theists never reach.
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You are assuming that religion has complete control over a man's thoughts, which is only true for a small minority.(like Orthodox Jews)
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2018-12-02 15:25:23 UTC
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On Fri, 30 Nov 2018 08:40:20 +0530, Jahnu <***@gmail.com> wrote:

Learning to think before religious indoctrination poisons one's mind,
or developing that ability in spite of attempts to poison it.
Peter
2018-12-02 16:15:14 UTC
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Moses came long before Vedas.
...not necessarily. The Samhita, the most ancient layer of text in the
Vedas, is thought to have originated around 1700-1200 BC. Given that
the accepted Biblical date for the alleged Exodus is around 1446 BC,
if your fictional Moses character had been real, he could have had
access to this ancient Vedas text.
The Exodus came hundreds of years after Egyptian slavery history.
Genesis goes back to the very beginnings of all things. Roughly 4000 BC
is "recorded history". And man was around long, long before that.
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the dukester, American-American
I'm afraid that you can't use Genesis as a source of dates or even history.
You say that 4000BCE is recorded history and Genesis goes beyond that.
But not as far as the estimated 4 million years when the earth coalesced
out of a ball of dust.

Exodus is suggested as occurring in the late 13th century BCE Read "The
bible unearthed" by Israel Finkelstein and Neil Asher Silberman.

Genesis as an historical record is garbage. Using Genesis you might also
have a belief in the Tooth Fairy and Father Xmas.

And for your information modern man appeared at about 100,000 BCE. Well
before Genesis. In fact Genesis has a beginning date of approx 820 BCE
pfj
duke
2018-12-03 23:29:29 UTC
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Moses came long before Vedas.
...not necessarily. The Samhita, the most ancient layer of text in the
Vedas, is thought to have originated around 1700-1200 BC. Given that
the accepted Biblical date for the alleged Exodus is around 1446 BC,
if your fictional Moses character had been real, he could have had
access to this ancient Vedas text.
The Exodus came hundreds of years after Egyptian slavery history.
Genesis goes back to the very beginnings of all things. Roughly 4000 BC
is "recorded history". And man was around long, long before that.
Post by duke
the dukester, American-American
I'm afraid that you can't use Genesis as a source of dates or even history.
You say that 4000BCE is recorded history and Genesis goes beyond that.
But not as far as the estimated 4 million years when the earth coalesced
out of a ball of dust.
I didn't mean the bible book. I meant the story line.

Dufus.
Post by Peter
Exodus is suggested as occurring in the late 13th century BCE Read "The
bible unearthed" by Israel Finkelstein and Neil Asher Silberman.
Nah, I've got better coverage in the Bible.
Post by Peter
Genesis as an historical record is garbage. Using Genesis you might also
have a belief in the Tooth Fairy and Father Xmas.
Scripture lists Gen 1-11 as prehistory.
Post by Peter
And for your information modern man appeared at about 100,000 BCE. Well
before Genesis. In fact Genesis has a beginning date of approx 820 BCE
pfj
Did you get it on DVD?

the dukester, American-American


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2018-12-03 08:54:09 UTC
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2018-12-03 23:33:03 UTC
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Just remember: Google is your friend.
You're welcome.
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What makes a person an atheist is the question heading this thread. I'm
sure there are many reasons, and many atheists, all with their own reasons
for professing the belief they hold.
I'm sure to.
In my case it's due to previous cruel, unnatural experiences in a religious
environment, the stupidity of some of the dogmas which I was supposed to
believe, the unattractive personalities of the person extolling these dogmas
and a refusal of the Church (Roman Catholic in my case) to move forward with
the times.
Dogma as used by the RCC is the unquestioned truth of God. Which of God's
dogmas bothered you so badly?
The sanctification of Anjezë Gonxhe Bojaxhiu, better known as
"Mother Teresa" was a case in point.
Oh, what do you know about her that nobody else does.
So, the logical step forward after all of that was atheism. I'm sure that
critics of atheism will refer to my decision as a step backwards. But
whatever,here I am, I can do no more. (to misquote Martin Luther)
Or, as they say, it's your funeral.
pfj
the dukester, American-American


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