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Does God exist according to science?
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Jahnu
2021-06-08 03:10:05 UTC
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Yes.

The best proof of God, in my mind, is logic, reason and common sense.
Anyone with a brain can understand the world didn't create itself out
of a bunch of chemicals.

Obviously, nobody is an atheist due to lack of evidence of God. In
fact, the last thing an atheist wants, is proof of God. The whole
world is proof of an intelligent designer. One becomes an atheist when
one does not want God in his life, not because there is no proof of
God. It's as simple as that.

I mean, I can understand why someone would be against certain
religions. The theology of the Abrahamic religions, for instance, is
largely sectarian nonsense.

But to deny the obvious intelligent design observable in nature, to
actually suggest the world created itself out of a bunch of chemicals,
that's just plain dumb.

Of course, only God can prove who He is, but there is ample empiric
proof of His existence. The irreducible complexity of living organisms
is the logical proof of the Intelligent Design of nature. So ID is a
direct, observable fact of nature. Thus, the irreducible complexity in
a single cell, is the empirical proof of God.

Irreducible complexity is like a car engine, where all the parts of
the engine are interdependent in their functions. The cylinders
function only in combination with the pistons, the pistons function
only in connection with the spark plugs, the spark plugs depend on the
electric system for their function, and son on. All the components of
the engine work only in combination with each-other.

In other words, a car engine is only functional as a complete unit. If
one component fails, the whole engine fails. Hence the term
irreducible complexity. Irreducible Complexity disproves the idea of
evolution - that the world evolved naturally with no principle of a
guiding intelligence behind it.

IOW, the idea that abiogenesis and evolution, with no guiding
intelligence behind it, produced all the living species, is basically
an affront to a working intellect.

To say, like atheists do, that the universe created itself out of a
bunch of chemicals, is like saying that a Mercedes Benz created itself
without any creative intelligence behind it.

Professor Werner Gitt, who works in the field of information science
writes:

"There is no known natural law through which matter can give rise to
information, neither is there any physical process or material
phenomenon known that can do this. All languages, alphabets, and codes
that we know of, as well as the information spoken or written in them,
originated in minds. The blind faith of the atheist that the first
life was an exception to this fact is contrary to all known evidence."

(Werner Gitt, In the Beginning Was Information, 1997, p. 79)

In my mind, however, apart from the fact that the Intelligent Design
observable in nature is proof of God, and, say, if one's brain is not
equipped to handle logic and reason, the best proof of God is that you
become totally happy by adding Krishna to your life.

Someone may object - you also become happy by smoking some dope or
winning the lottery, or having sex, what's the difference? How is that
proof of God?

The thing about bodily or mental pleasures, though, is that they don't
make the soul happy. Connecting to Krishna makes the soul happy, and
contrary to sense-gratification, which always ends in misery and
leaves you frustrated, the happiness of the soul is a constant fact.
Not only does the happiness of the soul not end, it only increases
more and more. It's a deep and lasting bliss that is never interrupted
by suffering.

Sure, you may break a leg, your wife may leave you, your children may
think you're a complete loser, or you may be depressed due to lack of
money, but the deep satisfaction of Krishna consciousness, once
established, never leaves the heart. And that's the proof that Krishna
is God.

So, as the saying goes - the proof of the pudding is in the eating.

Krishna says:

O learned Uddhava, those who fix their consciousness on Me, giving up
all material desires, share with Me a happiness that cannot possibly
be experienced by those engaged in sense gratification.

--Srimad Bhagavatam 11.14.12
JWS
2021-06-08 03:22:14 UTC
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Post by Jahnu
Yes.
The best proof of God, in my mind, is logic, reason and common sense.
You are not qualified since you posses none of these attributes.
Post by Jahnu
Anyone with a brain can understand the world didn't create itself out
of a bunch of chemicals.
Yes. No one ever said that. Except for you saying it here.
Post by Jahnu
--Srimad Bhagavatam -- is the sound my toilet makes when I flush.
hhya...@gmail.com
2021-06-08 09:23:47 UTC
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Post by Jahnu
Yes.
The best proof of God, in my mind, is logic, reason and common sense.
You are not qualified since you posses none of these attributes.
Post by Jahnu
Anyone with a brain can understand the world didn't create itself out
of a bunch of chemicals.
Yes. No one ever said that. Except for you saying it here.
Post by Jahnu
--Srimad Bhagavatam -- is the sound my toilet makes when I flush.
Or the sound of all the splashes when believers bathe and play in Ganges...
Jahnu
2021-06-11 02:38:43 UTC
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Yes. No one ever said that. Except for you saying it here.
That's exactly what you believe in, lying little shit - life from
matter. That's what you believe in, retard.

Do you now understand what kind of disease atheism is to the mind? You
have to reject direct, obsevable facts in order to delude yourself.

Atheism is a disease of the mind. So is the modern Church-snot, as
well as Islam. All bad excuses for religions.

Evil exists only if God exists. If there is no God to define good and
evil for us, good and evil shall remain forever based on human
opinion.

In the Vedic system good and evil are defined by God, and conducted by
nature's three modes - goodness, passion and ignorance. The more I'm
into the mode of ignorance (tama-guna), the more ignorant or evil I
shall become.

And the more I cultivate the mode of goodness (sattva-guna), the more
godly I shall become.

Krishna says:

Material nature consists of three modes - goodness, passion and
ignorance. When the eternal living entity comes in contact with
nature, O mighty-armed Arjuna, he becomes conditioned by these modes.
- Bg 14.5

O sinless one, the mode of goodness, being purer than the others, is
illuminating, and it frees one from all sinful reactions. Those
situated in that mode become conditioned by a sense of happiness and
knowledge. - Bg 14.6

The mode of passion is born of unlimited desires and longings, O son
of Kunti, and because of this the embodied living entity is bound to
material fruitive actions. - Bg 14.7

O son of Bharata, know that the mode of darkness, born of ignorance,
is the delusion of all embodied living entities. The results of this
mode are madness, indolence and sleep, which bind the conditioned
soul. - Bg 14.8

O son of Bharata, the mode of goodness conditions one to happiness;
passion conditions one to fruitive action; and ignorance, covering
one's knowledge, binds one to madness. - Bg 14.9

Sometimes the mode of goodness becomes prominent, defeating the modes
of passion and ignorance, O son of Bharata. Sometimes the mode of
passion defeats goodness and ignorance, and at other times ignorance
defeats goodness and passion. In this way there is always competition
for supremacy. - Bg 14.10

The manifestation of the mode of goodness can be experienced when all
the gates of the body are illuminated by knowledge. - Bg 14.11

O chief of the Bharatas, when there is an increase in the mode of
passion the symptoms of great attachment, fruitive activity, intense
endeavor, and uncontrollable desire and hankering develop. -Bg 14.12

When there is an increase in the mode of ignorance, O son of Kuru,
darkness, inertia, madness and illusion are manifested. - Bg 14.13

When one dies in the mode of goodness, he attains to the pure higher
planets of the great sages. -Bg 14.14

When one dies in the mode of passion, he takes birth among those
engaged in fruitive activities; and when one dies in the mode of
ignorance, he takes birth in the animal kingdom. - Bg 14.15

The result of pious action is pure and is said to be in the mode of
goodness. But action done in the mode of passion results in misery,
and action performed in the mode of ignorance results in foolishness.
- Bg 14.16

From the mode of goodness, real knowledge develops; from the mode of
passion, greed develops; and from the mode of ignorance develop
foolishness, madness and illusion. - Bg 14.17

Those situated in the mode of goodness gradually go upward to the
higher planets; those in the mode of passion live on the earthly
planets; and those in the abominable mode of ignorance go down to the
hellish worlds. - Bg 14.18

When one properly sees that in all activities no other performer is at
work than these modes of nature and he knows the Supreme Lord, who is
transcendental to all these modes, he attains My spiritual nature. -Bg
14.19

When the embodied being is able to transcend these three modes
associated with the material body, he can become free from birth,
death, old age and their distresses and can enjoy nectar even in this
life. -Bg 14.20
hhya...@gmail.com
2021-06-11 02:56:49 UTC
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Yes. No one ever said that. Except for you saying it here.
That's exactly what you believe in, lying little shit - life from
matter. That's what you believe in, retard.
Are you in the form of dust, or water?
Whatever form you are in, they are all matters...
Jahnu
2021-06-11 22:03:46 UTC
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Are you in the form of dust, or water?
Whatever form you are in, they are all matters...
Except you don't matter. Thank God you'll soon be dead. You are like a
disease on nature.

God is fully enjoying His pastimes in the spiritual world, He has
absolutely no interest in His material creation. When Krishna wants to
play God, He expands as Vishnu who then creates material nature.
Nature works according to strict laws, and in nature the embodied
living beings suffer or enjoy according to their activities.

Material creation is under the law of karma, and God doesn't interfere
with that. In the material world we are free to be good or evil as we
like, and reap the results accordingly.

Mean-while, while we live and die repeatedly in material creation,
Krishna is enjoying His eternal pastimes. Krishna is even so kind that
he invites us to come back home and take part in His eternal pastimes.
Only Krishna can release us from samsara - the endless cycle of birth
and death.

Our real life begins when we petition Krishna to release us from
samsara and allow us to rejoin Him Goloka (Vaikuntha).

Krishna says:

From the highest planet in the material world down to the lowest, all
are places of misery wherein repeated birth and death take place. But
one who attains to My abode, O son of Kunti, never takes birth again.
(Bg 8.16)

By human calculation, a thousand ages taken together form the duration
of Brahma's one day. And such also is the duration of his night. (Bg
8.17)

At the beginning of Brahma's day, all living entities become manifest
from the unmanifest state, and thereafter, when the night falls, they
are merged into the unmanifest again. (Bg 8.18)

Again and again, when Brahma's day arrives, all living entities come
into being, and with the arrival of Brahma's night they are helplessly
annihilated. (Bg 8.19)

Yet there is another unmanifest nature, which is eternal and is
transcendental to this manifested and unmanifested matter. It is
supreme and is never annihilated. When all in this world is
annihilated, that part remains as it is. (Bg 8.20)
hhya...@gmail.com
2021-06-12 01:58:03 UTC
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Are you in the form of dust, or water?
Whatever form you are in, they are all matters...
Except you don't matter. Thank God you'll soon be dead. You are like a
disease on nature.
I asked a sensible question while you pretended you are dumb?
JWS
2021-06-12 00:31:59 UTC
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Yes. No one ever said that. Except for you saying it here.
That's exactly what you believe in, lying little shit - life from
matter. That's what you believe in, retard.
1) "the world didn't create itself out of a bunch of chemicals. "
2) "life from matter."
Two completely different topics with barely any connection.
Jahnu
2021-06-13 01:29:05 UTC
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1) "the world didn't create itself out of a bunch of chemicals. "
2) "life from matter."
Two completely different topics with barely any connection.
Are you deaf or just plain stupid? Let me try again - you believe that
matter creates life, which is an absolutely brain-dead idea against
all observable facts. Get it this time?


Krishna says:

Now hear, O son of Pritha, how by practicing yoga in full
consciousness of Me, with mind attached to Me, you can know Me in
full, free from doubt. (Bg. 7.1)
hhya...@gmail.com
2021-06-13 01:37:41 UTC
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1) "the world didn't create itself out of a bunch of chemicals. "
2) "life from matter."
Two completely different topics with barely any connection.
Are you deaf or just plain stupid? Let me try again - you believe that
matter creates life, which is an absolutely brain-dead idea against
all observable facts. Get it this time?
Natural world of us consists of things all matters!!!!
Is your head that broken that you refuse to see this fact?????
Attila
2021-06-13 20:31:16 UTC
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Post by Jahnu
Post by JWS
1) "the world didn't create itself out of a bunch of chemicals. "
2) "life from matter."
Two completely different topics with barely any connection.
Are you deaf or just plain stupid? Let me try again - you believe that
matter creates life, which is an absolutely brain-dead idea against
all observable facts. Get it this time?
Many observable facts prove you wrong but that has been the
situation for years.
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Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

There are four despicable occupations:
Politicians - By far worse than all the others.
Pimps
Priests
Reporters

But there is nothing more loathsome than a liberal!

National Socialist American Worker's Party
(NSAWP) formally known as the Democrat Party
and now headed by Biden the Bastard and his
Two Bitches and supported by the Sluts and Pimps
including Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.
Jahnu
2021-06-14 03:58:25 UTC
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Many observable facts prove you wrong but that has been the
situation for years.
You wish... You are against facts, you lying little shit.

Krishna says:

I am never manifest to the foolish and unintelligent. For them I am
covered by My internal potency, and therefore they do not know that I
am unborn and infallible. (Bg 7.25)
Attila
2021-06-14 06:27:50 UTC
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Post by Attila
Many observable facts prove you wrong but that has been the
situation for years.
You wish... You are against facts, you lying little shit.
So you keep saying but somehow never produce any supporting
evidence..
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

There are four despicable occupations:
Politicians - By far worse than all the others.
Pimps
Priests
Reporters

But there is nothing more loathsome than a liberal!

National Socialist American Worker's Party
(NSAWP) formally known as the Democrat Party
and now headed by Biden the Bastard and his
Two Bitches and supported by the Sluts and Pimps
including Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.
Jahnu
2021-06-16 03:20:10 UTC
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So you keep saying but somehow never produce any supporting
evidence..
The best proof of God, in my mind, is logic, reason and common sense.
Anyone with a brain can understand the world didn’t create itself out
of a bunch of chemicals.

Obviously, nobody is an atheist due to lack of evidence of God. In
fact, the last thing an atheist wants, is proof of God. The whole
world is proof of an intelligent designer. One becomes an atheist when
one does not want God in his life, not because there is no proof of
God. It’s as simple as that.

I mean, I can understand why someone would be against certain
religions. The theology of the Abrahamic religions, for instance, is
largely sectarian nonsense.

But to deny the obvious intelligent design observable in nature, to
actually suggest the world created itself out of a bunch of chemicals,
that’s just plain dumb.

Of course, only God can prove who He is, but there is ample empiric
proof of His existence. The irreducible complexity of living organisms
is the logical proof of the Intelligent Design of nature. So ID is a
direct, observable fact of nature. Thus, ID comprises the empirical
proof of God.

It's just so ridiculous, in academic circles, ID is considered
unscientific. Seriously. In a group of big, big PHDs you can't tell
them, they are unintelligent fools, even though it's an empiric fact.


Irreducible complexity is like a car engine, where all the parts of
the engine are interdependent in their functions. The cylinders
function only in combination with the pistons, the pistons function
only in connection with the spark plugs, the spark plugs depend on the
electric system for their function, and son on. All the components of
the engine work only in combination with each-other.

In other words, a car engine is only functional as a complete unit. If
one component fails, the whole engine fails. Hence the term
irreducible complexity.

IOW, the idea that abiogenesis and evolution, with no guiding
intelligence behind it, produced all the living species, is basically
an affront to a working intellect.

To say, like atheists do, that the universe created itself out of a
bunch of chemicals, is like saying that a Mercedes Benz created itself
without any creative intelligence behind it.

Professor Werner Gitt, who works in the field of information science
writes:
“There is no known natural law through which matter can give rise to
information, neither is there any physical process or material
phenomenon known that can do this. All languages, alphabets, and codes
that we know of, as well as the information spoken or written in them,
originated in minds. The blind faith of the atheist that the first
life was an exception to this fact is contrary to all known evidence.”

(Werner Gitt, In the Beginning Was Information, 1997, p. 79)

In my mind, however, apart from the fact that the ID observable in
nature is proof of God, and, say, if one’s brain is not equipped to
handle logic and reason, the best proof of God is that you become
totally happy by adding Krishna to your life.

Someone may object - you also become happy by smoking some dope or
winning the lottery, or having sex, what’s the difference? How is that
proof of God?
The thing about bodily or mental pleasures, though, is that they don’t
make the soul happy. Connecting to Krishna makes the soul happy, and
contrary to sense-gratification, which always ends in misery and
leaves you frustrated, the happiness of the soul is a constant fact.
Not only does the happiness of the soul not end, it only increases
more and more. It’s a deep and lasting bliss that is never interrupted
by suffering.

Sure, you may break a leg, your wife may leave you, your children may
think you’re a complete loser, or you may be depressed due to lack of
money, but the deep satisfaction of Krishna consciousness, once
established, never leaves the heart. And that’s the proof that Krishna
is God.
So, as the saying goes - the proof of the pudding is in the eating.

Krishna says:

O learned Uddhava, those who fix their consciousness on Me, giving up
all material desires, share with Me a happiness that cannot possibly
be experienced by those engaged in sense gratification. --Srimad
Bhagavatam 11.14.12
Attila
2021-06-16 05:10:39 UTC
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Post by Jahnu
Post by Attila
So you keep saying but somehow never produce any supporting
evidence..
The best proof of God, in my mind, is logic, reason and common sense.
Anyone with a brain can understand the world didn’t create itself out
of a bunch of chemicals.
Nobody (especially me) cares what is in your mind. You
cannot use logic as evidence.
Post by Jahnu
Obviously, nobody is an atheist due to lack of evidence of God. In
fact, the last thing an atheist wants, is proof of God.
I see you are an expert on what an atheist wants. Or you
think you are.
Post by Jahnu
The whole
world is proof of an intelligent designer
"Oh, look! A pile of poop! That proves there is a god!"
Post by Jahnu
. One becomes an atheist when
one does not want God in his life, not because there is no proof of
God. It’s as simple as that.
Simple is all you can d, and you get that wrong.
Post by Jahnu
I mean, I can understand why someone would be against certain
religions. The theology of the Abrahamic religions, for instance, is
largely sectarian nonsense.
But to deny the obvious intelligent design observable in nature, to
actually suggest the world created itself out of a bunch of chemicals,
that’s just plain dumb.
But still no evidence.

Remaining crap clipped since no evidence was included.
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

There are four despicable occupations:
Politicians - By far worse than all the others.
Pimps
Priests
Reporters

But there is nothing more loathsome than a liberal!

National Socialist American Worker's Party
(NSAWP) formally known as the Democrat Party
and now headed by Biden the Bastard and his
Two Bitches and supported by the Sluts and Pimps
including Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.
Christopher A. Lee
2021-06-16 14:04:23 UTC
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On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 08:50:10 +0530, Jahnu
Post by Jahnu
Post by Attila
So you keep saying but somehow never produce any supporting
evidence..
The best proof of God, in my mind, is logic, reason and common sense.
Anyone with a brain can understand the world didn’t create itself out
of a bunch of chemicals.
Nobody (especially me) cares what is in your mind. You
cannot use logic as evidence.
The in-our-face, psycho knows perfectly well that the only people who
say it created itself, let alone from a bunch of chemicals, are
deliberately lying religious fanatics putting words into people's
mouths they know were never said, let alone meant.
Post by Attila
Post by Jahnu
Obviously, nobody is an atheist due to lack of evidence of God. In
fact, the last thing an atheist wants, is proof of God.
More deliberate lie. He knows there is none, and we only demand it as
a challenge to STFU when he can't provide it.
Post by Attila
I see you are an expert on what an atheist wants. Or you
think you are.
Post by Jahnu
The whole
world is proof of an intelligent designer
Another deliberate lie - he knows perfectly well why there's no way to
determine design because it's been explained over and over again...

1. If everything was designed, there would be nothing that wasn't, it
nothing natural to compare designed vs not designed.

2. The other was would be to know enough about this hypothetical
designer already, to know that it designed everything. But that's what
he's supposed to be demonstrating so he's assuming his conclusion.

But none of these in-our-face idiots have ever addressed this.
Post by Attila
"Oh, look! A pile of poop! That proves there is a god!"
Post by Jahnu
. One becomes an atheist when
one does not want God in his life, not because there is no proof of
God. It’s as simple as that.
Another of the lying psycho's deliberate lies which he has had
refuted over and over again.

People who were taught to be theist before they could thing, lose
their beliefs as they grow up in the same way they grew out of Santa
Claus, or when they learn that the world doesn't work the way their
religion claims, or when they get an education, or when they move away
from the constant reinforcement, or a whole slew of other reasons.

And plenty of other atheists were never taught to be theist by their
parents before they learned to think, so when somebody tried to teach
it to them after their early years, it was just plain ridiculous.
Post by Attila
Simple is all you can d, and you get that wrong.
Post by Jahnu
I mean, I can understand why someone would be against certain
religions. The theology of the Abrahamic religions, for instance, is
largely sectarian nonsense.
No more nor less nonsense that Jesper's sick little cult.
Post by Attila
Post by Jahnu
But to deny the obvious intelligent design observable in nature, to
WHAT FUCKING "OBVIOUS INTELLIGENT DESIGN" WAS THE DELIBERATE LIAR
LYING ABOUT?

Is he incapable of reading what has been repeatedly explained?
Post by Attila
Post by Jahnu
actually suggest the world created itself out of a bunch of chemicals,
that’s just plain dumb.
That strawman is just plain dumb - a deliberate lie because the only
people who say that are lying religious loonies putting words in
people's mouths they know were neither said nor meant.

In any case, the sciences he distorts to the point lying about them,
are accepted by at least an order of magnitude more theists than
atheists - the intelligent and educated ones.
Post by Attila
But still no evidence.
Remaining crap clipped since no evidence was included.
He has none. Anybody with even a high school education knows there
can't be. because his nonsense flies in the face of reality.
Kurt Nicklas
2021-06-16 14:14:30 UTC
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Post by Attila
On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 08:50:10 +0530, Jahnu
Post by Jahnu
Post by Attila
So you keep saying but somehow never produce any supporting
evidence..
The best proof of God, in my mind, is logic, reason and common sense.
Anyone with a brain can understand the world didn’t create itself out
of a bunch of chemicals.
Nobody (especially me) cares what is in your mind. You
cannot use logic as evidence.
The in-our-face, psycho knows perfectly well that the only people who
say it created itself, let alone from a bunch of chemicals, are
deliberately lying religious fanatics putting words into people's
mouths they know were never said, let alone meant.
Post by Attila
Post by Jahnu
Obviously, nobody is an atheist due to lack of evidence of God. In
fact, the last thing an atheist wants, is proof of God.
More deliberate lie. He knows there is none, and we only demand it as
a challenge to STFU when he can't provide it.
Of course it is a lie to say he knows "there is no evidence of God".
I've pointed this out multiple times.

It is to know that CHRISTopher admits that demands for evidence is
just an insincere, irrational demand which he knows is pure cowardice
on the atheist's part.
JWS
2021-06-17 10:38:13 UTC
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On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 09:04:23 -0500, Christopher A. Lee
Post by Christopher A. Lee
Post by Attila
On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 08:50:10 +0530, Jahnu
Post by Jahnu
Post by Attila
So you keep saying but somehow never produce any supporting
evidence..
The best proof of God, in my mind, is logic, reason and common sense.
Anyone with a brain can understand the world didn’t create itself out
of a bunch of chemicals.
Nobody (especially me) cares what is in your mind. You
cannot use logic as evidence.
The in-our-face, psycho knows perfectly well that the only people who
say it created itself, let alone from a bunch of chemicals, are
deliberately lying religious fanatics putting words into people's
mouths they know were never said, let alone meant.
Post by Attila
Post by Jahnu
Obviously, nobody is an atheist due to lack of evidence of God. In
fact, the last thing an atheist wants, is proof of God.
More deliberate lie. He knows there is none, and we only demand it as
a challenge to STFU when he can't provide it.
Of course it is a lie to say he knows "there is no evidence of God".
I've pointed this out multiple times.
This is your only post in this thread. How could you
have posted ANY evidence?
Ohhhhh, in ANOTHER thread, some OTHER time,
you have done it BEFORE. That's always the
claim.
Post by Kurt Nicklas
It is to know that CHRISTopher admits that demands for evidence is
just an insincere, irrational demand which he knows is pure cowardice
on the atheist's part.
Kurt Nicklas
2021-06-17 13:30:37 UTC
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So you keep saying but somehow never produce any supporting
evidence..
The best proof of God, in my mind, is logic, reason and common sense.
Anyone with a brain can understand the world didn’t create itself out
of a bunch of chemicals.
Nobody (especially me) cares what is in your mind. You
cannot use logic as evidence.
The in-our-face, psycho knows perfectly well that the only people who
say it created itself, let alone from a bunch of chemicals, are
deliberately lying religious fanatics putting words into people's
mouths they know were never said, let alone meant.
Post by Attila
Post by Jahnu
Obviously, nobody is an atheist due to lack of evidence of God. In
fact, the last thing an atheist wants, is proof of God.
More deliberate lie. He knows there is none, and we only demand it as
a challenge to STFU when he can't provide it.
Of course it is a lie to say he knows "there is no evidence of God".
I've pointed this out multiple times.
This is your only post in this thread. How could you
have posted ANY evidence?
Ohhhhh, in ANOTHER thread, some OTHER time,
you have done it BEFORE. That's always the
claim.
I've been posting in this newsgroup for many years and, yes, I've
pointed it out many,many times. Given the level of deliberate
ignorance in this group - you included - I expect to do so many times
more before I shuffle off this mortal plane.
JWS
2021-06-17 13:56:36 UTC
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Post by Attila
On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 08:50:10 +0530, Jahnu
Post by Jahnu
Post by Attila
So you keep saying but somehow never produce any supporting
evidence..
The best proof of God, in my mind, is logic, reason and common sense.
Anyone with a brain can understand the world didn’t create itself out
of a bunch of chemicals.
Nobody (especially me) cares what is in your mind. You
cannot use logic as evidence.
The in-our-face, psycho knows perfectly well that the only people who
say it created itself, let alone from a bunch of chemicals, are
deliberately lying religious fanatics putting words into people's
mouths they know were never said, let alone meant.
Post by Attila
Post by Jahnu
Obviously, nobody is an atheist due to lack of evidence of God. In
fact, the last thing an atheist wants, is proof of God.
More deliberate lie. He knows there is none, and we only demand it as
a challenge to STFU when he can't provide it.
Of course it is a lie to say he knows "there is no evidence of God".
I've pointed this out multiple times.
This is your only post in this thread. How could you
have posted ANY evidence?
Ohhhhh, in ANOTHER thread, some OTHER time,
you have done it BEFORE. That's always the
claim.
I've been posting in this newsgroup for many years and, yes, I've
pointed it out many,many times. Given the level of deliberate
ignorance in this group - you included - I expect to do so many times
more before I shuffle off this mortal plane.
Why not make now a "many imes more"?
Kurt Nicklas
2021-06-17 14:57:18 UTC
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Post by Attila
On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 08:50:10 +0530, Jahnu
Post by Jahnu
Post by Attila
So you keep saying but somehow never produce any supporting
evidence..
The best proof of God, in my mind, is logic, reason and common sense.
Anyone with a brain can understand the world didn’t create itself out
of a bunch of chemicals.
Nobody (especially me) cares what is in your mind. You
cannot use logic as evidence.
The in-our-face, psycho knows perfectly well that the only people who
say it created itself, let alone from a bunch of chemicals, are
deliberately lying religious fanatics putting words into people's
mouths they know were never said, let alone meant.
Post by Attila
Post by Jahnu
Obviously, nobody is an atheist due to lack of evidence of God. In
fact, the last thing an atheist wants, is proof of God.
More deliberate lie. He knows there is none, and we only demand it as
a challenge to STFU when he can't provide it.
Of course it is a lie to say he knows "there is no evidence of God".
I've pointed this out multiple times.
This is your only post in this thread. How could you
have posted ANY evidence?
Ohhhhh, in ANOTHER thread, some OTHER time,
you have done it BEFORE. That's always the
claim.
I've been posting in this newsgroup for many years and, yes, I've
pointed it out many,many times. Given the level of deliberate
ignorance in this group - you included - I expect to do so many times
more before I shuffle off this mortal plane.
Why not make now a "many imes more"?
You're not really a native speaker of English, are you?
JWS
2021-06-17 22:09:42 UTC
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On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 09:04:23 -0500, Christopher A. Lee
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Post by Attila
On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 08:50:10 +0530, Jahnu
Post by Jahnu
Post by Attila
So you keep saying but somehow never produce any supporting
evidence..
The best proof of God, in my mind, is logic, reason and common sense.
Anyone with a brain can understand the world didn’t create itself out
of a bunch of chemicals.
Nobody (especially me) cares what is in your mind. You
cannot use logic as evidence.
The in-our-face, psycho knows perfectly well that the only people who
say it created itself, let alone from a bunch of chemicals, are
deliberately lying religious fanatics putting words into people's
mouths they know were never said, let alone meant.
Post by Attila
Post by Jahnu
Obviously, nobody is an atheist due to lack of evidence of God. In
fact, the last thing an atheist wants, is proof of God.
More deliberate lie. He knows there is none, and we only demand it as
a challenge to STFU when he can't provide it.
Of course it is a lie to say he knows "there is no evidence of God".
I've pointed this out multiple times.
This is your only post in this thread. How could you
have posted ANY evidence?
Ohhhhh, in ANOTHER thread, some OTHER time,
you have done it BEFORE. That's always the
claim.
I've been posting in this newsgroup for many years and, yes, I've
pointed it out many,many times. Given the level of deliberate
ignorance in this group - you included - I expect to do so many times
more before I shuffle off this mortal plane.
Why not make now a "many imes more"?
You're not really a native speaker of English, are you?
Why not make "now" a "many times more"?
Kurt Nicklas
2021-06-18 02:56:23 UTC
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On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 09:04:23 -0500, Christopher A. Lee
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Post by Attila
On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 08:50:10 +0530, Jahnu
Post by Jahnu
Post by Attila
So you keep saying but somehow never produce any supporting
evidence..
The best proof of God, in my mind, is logic, reason and common sense.
Anyone with a brain can understand the world didn’t create itself out
of a bunch of chemicals.
Nobody (especially me) cares what is in your mind. You
cannot use logic as evidence.
The in-our-face, psycho knows perfectly well that the only people who
say it created itself, let alone from a bunch of chemicals, are
deliberately lying religious fanatics putting words into people's
mouths they know were never said, let alone meant.
Post by Attila
Post by Jahnu
Obviously, nobody is an atheist due to lack of evidence of God. In
fact, the last thing an atheist wants, is proof of God.
More deliberate lie. He knows there is none, and we only demand it as
a challenge to STFU when he can't provide it.
Of course it is a lie to say he knows "there is no evidence of God".
I've pointed this out multiple times.
This is your only post in this thread. How could you
have posted ANY evidence?
Ohhhhh, in ANOTHER thread, some OTHER time,
you have done it BEFORE. That's always the
claim.
I've been posting in this newsgroup for many years and, yes, I've
pointed it out many,many times. Given the level of deliberate
ignorance in this group - you included - I expect to do so many times
more before I shuffle off this mortal plane.
Why not make now a "many imes more"?
You're not really a native speaker of English, are you?
Why not make "now" a "many times more"?
No, you're not. That's now obvious.

You're a little coward too.
JWS
2021-06-18 11:44:30 UTC
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On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 09:04:23 -0500, Christopher A. Lee
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Post by Attila
On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 08:50:10 +0530, Jahnu
Post by Jahnu
Post by Attila
So you keep saying but somehow never produce any supporting
evidence..
The best proof of God, in my mind, is logic, reason and common sense.
Anyone with a brain can understand the world didn’t create itself out
of a bunch of chemicals.
Nobody (especially me) cares what is in your mind. You
cannot use logic as evidence.
The in-our-face, psycho knows perfectly well that the only people who
say it created itself, let alone from a bunch of chemicals, are
deliberately lying religious fanatics putting words into people's
mouths they know were never said, let alone meant.
Post by Attila
Post by Jahnu
Obviously, nobody is an atheist due to lack of evidence of God. In
fact, the last thing an atheist wants, is proof of God.
More deliberate lie. He knows there is none, and we only demand it as
a challenge to STFU when he can't provide it.
Of course it is a lie to say he knows "there is no evidence of God".
I've pointed this out multiple times.
This is your only post in this thread. How could you
have posted ANY evidence?
Ohhhhh, in ANOTHER thread, some OTHER time,
you have done it BEFORE. That's always the
claim.
I've been posting in this newsgroup for many years and, yes, I've
pointed it out many,many times. Given the level of deliberate
ignorance in this group - you included - I expect to do so many times
more before I shuffle off this mortal plane.
Why not make now a "many imes more"?
You're not really a native speaker of English, are you?
Why not make "now" a "many times more"?
No, you're not. That's now obvious.
You're a little coward too.
You will not provide your evidence
but I"M the coward? I think that word
does not mean what you think it means.
Automatic
2021-06-18 05:12:26 UTC
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I've been posting in this newsgroup for many years and, yes, I've
pointed it out many,many times. Given the level of deliberate
ignorance in this group - you included - I expect to do so many times
more before I shuffle off this mortal plane.
https://satoshi.nakamotoinstitute.org/posts/bitcointalk/129/

Excellent choice of a first project, nice work. I had planned to do this exact thing if someone else didn't do it, so when it gets too hard for mortals to generate 50BTC
Automatic
2021-06-18 05:20:01 UTC
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I've been posting in this newsgroup for many years and, yes, I've
pointed it out many,many times. Given the level of deliberate
ignorance in this group - you included - I expect to do so many times
more before I shuffle off this mortal plane.
https://satoshi.nakamotoinstitute.org/posts/bitcointalk/129/
Excellent choice of a first project, nice work. I had planned to do this exact thing if someone else didn't do it, so when it gets too hard for mortals to generate 50BTC

hhya...@gmail.com
2021-06-18 09:47:54 UTC
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I've been posting in this newsgroup for many years and, yes, I've
pointed it out many,many times. Given the level of deliberate
ignorance in this group - you included - I expect to do so many times
more before I shuffle off this mortal plane.
https://satoshi.nakamotoinstitute.org/posts/bitcointalk/129/
Excellent choice of a first project, nice work. I had planned to do this exact thing if someone else didn't do it, so when it gets too hard for mortals to generate 50BTC
See how brainless you are...
If it is hard for you to generate 50, how about 10 first?
Just like you pushing of drugs, your initial sale would be a few grams first before you even touch 100 grams!!!!!!!
Jahnu
2021-06-17 04:36:55 UTC
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Nobody (especially me) cares what is in your mind. You
cannot use logic as evidence.
Says who? A meat-eating piece of shit like you?

hahaha :D


To say that belief in God is no more than superstition is just
foolish. To suggest that humanity, since the beginning of time, has
been devoted to a superstition, is at best a baseless, unintelligent
assertion.

A common saying by atheists is that belief in God is no different than
believing in Santa Claus or the tooth fairy. Statements like that
clearly show the damage atheism does to the mind.

The most brilliant thinkers, philosophers, and scientists throughout
history have advocated beleif in God. Do you know of any intelligent
person or scientist who believes in the tooth fairy?

To think that likening Santa Claus to God is a valid comparison simply
exposes you as an unthinking, suggestible person. Another popular
pastime of atheists is to reject God on the basis of the Abrahamic
religions they grew up with.

That’s just another facet of ignorance, widespread in the modern
world. Who wouldn’t reject a God who could do no better than the Bible
or the Koran, or the Talmud, for that matter?

Here is what Krishna has to say about such people:

"Those miscreants who are grossly foolish, who are lowest among
mankind, whose knowledge is stolen by illusion, and who partake of the
atheistic nature of demons do not surrender unto Me." (Bg 7.15 )
Attila
2021-06-17 07:36:00 UTC
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Post by Attila
Nobody (especially me) cares what is in your mind. You
cannot use logic as evidence.
Says who? A meat-eating piece of shit like you?
Everyone but you and a few other loons.
Post by Jahnu
To say that belief in God is no more than superstition is just
foolish. To suggest that humanity, since the beginning of time, has
been devoted to a superstition, is at best a baseless, unintelligent
assertion.
That is what the evidence indicates.
Post by Jahnu
A common saying by atheists is that belief in God is no different than
believing in Santa Claus or the tooth fairy. Statements like that
clearly show the damage atheism does to the mind.
So you say.
Post by Jahnu
The most brilliant thinkers, philosophers, and scientists throughout
history have advocated beleif in God. Do you know of any intelligent
person or scientist who believes in the tooth fairy?
I haven't asked them but each person has his own quirks.
Post by Jahnu
To think that likening Santa Claus to God is a valid comparison simply
exposes you as an unthinking, suggestible person.
Personally I have never done that since the character was
based on a real person.
Post by Jahnu
Another popular
pastime of atheists is to reject God on the basis of the Abrahamic
religions they grew up with.
That’s just another facet of ignorance, widespread in the modern
world. Who wouldn’t reject a God who could do no better than the Bible
or the Koran, or the Talmud, for that matter?
Which one makes no difference me.

Crap clipped as usual.
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Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

There are four despicable occupations:
Politicians - By far worse than all the others.
Pimps
Priests
Reporters

But there is nothing more loathsome than a liberal!

National Socialist American Worker's Party
(NSAWP) formally known as the Democrat Party
and now headed by Biden the Bastard and his
Two Bitches and supported by the Sluts and Pimps
including Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.
Jahnu
2021-06-19 03:48:38 UTC
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Everyone but you and a few other loons.
hahaha :D You wouldn't last 5 minutes in the real world.

"As long as there are slaughter-houses, there will be battlefields. A
vegetarian diet is the acid test of humanitarian." -- Leo Tolstoy
Attila
2021-06-19 07:10:29 UTC
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Everyone but you and a few other loons.
hahaha :D You wouldn't last 5 minutes in the real world.
I have been in a long time. Probably longer than you.
Post by Jahnu
"As long as there are slaughter-houses, there will be battlefields. A
vegetarian diet is the acid test of humanitarian." -- Leo Tolstoy
Meat is food. Vegetables are what food eats.
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

There are four despicable occupations:
Politicians - By far worse than all the others.
Pimps
Priests
Reporters

But there is nothing more loathsome than a liberal!

National Socialist American Worker's Party
(NSAWP) formally known as the Democrat Party
and now headed by Biden the Bastard and his
Two Bitches and supported by the Sluts and Pimps
including Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.
Jahnu
2021-06-20 05:58:15 UTC
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I have been in a long time. Probably longer than you.
After a long time living in the material world, you begin to
understand that you don't belong here. As you become older in this
life you realize that without exception everything turns into misery,
sorrow and frustration. Even if you are enjoying to the max, disease,
old age and death always get you in the end.

This would be a depressing realization if there were no positive
alternative. But there is. When you add Krishna to your life and begin
practicing devotion to Him, all this other stuff - family, friends,
society, all your loved ones become as significant as the autum leaves
rattling in the wind, for the security and bliss you discover in
Krishna's service makes everything else pale in comparison.

-- but, but, that's being defeatist and irresponsible, I hear someone
object.

On the contrary, it is defeatist and irresponsible to surrender to
disease, old age and death. To explain it away by saying, there is
nothing you can do about it anyway, when God Himself tells you, you
can get out of the ocean of birth and death - now THAT's defeatist and
irresponsible.

It is defeatist because you surrender to nature's powers, and it is
irresponsible, because the sole prerogative of the human life-form is
for the soul to get out of samsara - the endless cycle of birth and
death. To not take advantage of that rare opportunity is
irresponsible.

--but, but who will take care of the family, if everyone just goes
off, dresses in sheets and chants mantras?

Family? First of all, one doesn't exclude the other. To practice
devotion to Krishna does not mean you can't take care of your family.
Rather, you can take better care, it's just not the ultimate goal in
life anymore. And secondly, everyone in the material world takes care
of their family. Ants, cockroaches, cats and dogs and cows take care
of their families. Family is being taken care of in any life-form. In
the modern culture, it is being hailed as some noble, unassailable,
holy principle - the ultimate goal in life you must stick to, no
matter what. Family is God.

The fact is, though, that if humans are just another lifeform that
popped out of the evolutionary cycle, there is nothing more noble or
exquisite about a mother strolling her infant down 5th Avenue in a
pushchair, than an ant carrying an egg home to its nest.

Therefore Krishna says:

Just try to learn the truth by approaching a spiritual master. Inquire
from him submissively and render service unto him. The self-realized
souls can impart knowledge unto you because they have seen the truth.
(Bg. 4.34)

Having obtained real knowledge from a self-realized soul, you will
never fall again into such illusion, for by this knowledge you will
see that all living beings are but part of the Supreme, or, in other
words, that they are Mine. (Bg.4.35)

Even if you are considered to be the most sinful of all sinners, when
you are situated in the boat of transcendental knowledge you will be
able to cross over the ocean of miseries. (Bg. 4.36)

As a blazing fire turns firewood to ashes, O Arjuna, so does the fire
of knowledge burn to ashes all reactions to material activities. (Bg.
4.37)

In this world, there is nothing so sublime and pure as transcendental
knowledge. Such knowledge is the mature fruit of all mysticism. And
one who has become accomplished in the practice of devotional service
enjoys this knowledge within himself in due course of time. (Bg. 4.38)

A faithful man who is dedicated to transcendental knowledge and who
subdues his senses is eligible to achieve such knowledge, and having
achieved it he quickly attains the supreme spiritual peace. (Bg. 4.39)

But ignorant and faithless persons who doubt the revealed scriptures
do not attain God consciousness; they fall down. For the doubting soul
there is happiness neither in this world nor in the next. (Bg. 4.40)
Attila
2021-06-20 07:10:51 UTC
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I have been in a long time. Probably longer than you.
After a long time living in the material world, you begin to
understand that you don't belong here. As you become older in this
life you realize that without exception everything turns into misery,
sorrow and frustration. Even if you are enjoying to the max, disease,
old age and death always get you in the end.
It's better than the alternative.

Crap clipped as usual.
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Pro-Choice is Pro-Freedom

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

Stop Sharia Law and so-called "Honor Killings"!

Religion is the worst monstrosity ever fostered upon the
human species. Only mental defectives would pay the
slightest attention to it.

Why should any religion be considered a foreign nation
with Ambassadors and diplomatic immunity?

The ACA is an abomination that should be opposed at every
opportunity in every way possible until it dies it's
inevitable horrible death.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government
guaranteed above average income for every person.

You are more likely to by kicked to death than to be killed
by a rifle or a shotgun in the US.
Christopher A. Lee
2021-06-20 12:50:51 UTC
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I have been in a long time. Probably longer than you.
After a long time living in the material world, you begin to
understand that you don't belong here. As you become older in this
life you realize that without exception everything turns into misery,
sorrow and frustration. Even if you are enjoying to the max, disease,
old age and death always get you in the end.
It's better than the alternative.
Crap clipped as usual.
Was he ever sane?

Why does he feel the need to keep reminding us that he isn't?
Attila
2021-06-20 18:58:29 UTC
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On Sun, 20 Jun 2021 11:28:15 +0530, Jahnu
Post by Jahnu
Post by Attila
I have been in a long time. Probably longer than you.
After a long time living in the material world, you begin to
understand that you don't belong here. As you become older in this
life you realize that without exception everything turns into misery,
sorrow and frustration. Even if you are enjoying to the max, disease,
old age and death always get you in the end.
It's better than the alternative.
Crap clipped as usual.
Was he ever sane?
Why does he feel the need to keep reminding us that he isn't?
It's the only way he can get any attention. This way is
better than none.

There are a number of people here who do the same thing.
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

There are four despicable occupations:
Politicians - By far worse than all the others.
Pimps
Priests
Reporters

But there is nothing more loathsome than a liberal!

National Socialist American Worker's Party
(NSAWP) formally known as the Democrat Party
and now headed by Biden the Bastard and his
Two Bitches and supported by the Sluts and Pimps
including Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.
Michelle Malkin
2021-06-22 11:33:31 UTC
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Post by Jahnu
I have been in a long time. Probably longer than you.
After a long time living in the material world, you begin to
understand that you don't belong here. As you become older in this
life you realize that without exception everything turns into misery,
sorrow and frustration. Even if you are enjoying to the max, disease,
old age and death always get you in the end.
It's better than the alternative.
Crap clipped as usual.
Was he ever sane?
Why does he feel the need to keep reminding us that he isn't?
Unless he is the dreaded narcissist, too, like some other trolls,
he may doubt his own sanity.
%
2021-07-12 14:30:45 UTC
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Post by Jahnu
I have been in a long time. Probably longer than you.
After a long time living in the material world, you begin to
understand that you don't belong here. As you become older in this
life you realize that without exception everything turns into misery,
sorrow and frustration. Even if you are enjoying to the max, disease,
old age and death always get you in the end.
It's better than the alternative.
Crap clipped as usual.
Was he ever sane?
Why does he feel the need to keep reminding us that he isn't?
Unless he is the dreaded narcissist, too, like some other trolls,
he may doubt his own sanity.
i take oxy that's why i can't feel my feet or anything else
Jahnu
2021-07-14 10:50:13 UTC
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i take oxy that's why i can't feel my feet or anything else
That's also why you can't feel your brain :D

Narada Muni says:

Persons who are actually intelligent and philosophically inclined
should endeavor only for that purposeful end which is not obtainable
even by wandering from the topmost planet [Brahmaloka] down to the
lowest planet [Patala]. As far as happiness derived from sense
enjoyment is concerned, it can be obtained automatically in course of
time, just as in course of time we obtain miseries even though we do
not desire them. -SB 1.5.18
Jahnu
2021-07-14 10:57:39 UTC
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i take oxy that's why i can't feel my feet or anything else
That's also why you can't feel your brain :D

Narada Muni says:

Persons who are actually intelligent and philosophically inclined
should endeavor only for that purposeful end which is not obtainable
even by wandering from the topmost planet [Brahmaloka] down to the
lowest planet [Patala]. As far as happiness derived from sense
enjoyment is concerned, it can be obtained automatically in course of
time, just as in course of time we obtain miseries even though we do
not desire them. -SB 1.5.18

Jahnu
2021-06-22 03:25:47 UTC
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It's better than the alternative.
Yes, birth death, old age and disease are so nice.


TRIBUTES TO HINDUISM

1. Mahatma Gandhi:

"Hinduism has made marvelous discoveries in things of
religion, of the spirit, of the soul. We have no eye for
these great and fine discoveries. We are dazzled by the
material progress that western science has made. Ancient
India has survived because Hinduism was not developed
along material but spiritual lines.

"India is to me the dearest country in the world, because
I have discovered goodness in it. It has been subject to
foreign rule, it is true. But the status of a slave is
preferable to that of a slave holder."

2. Henry David Thoreau:

"In the morning I bathe my intellect in the stupendous
and cosmogonal philosophy of the Bhagavad Gita in
comparison with which our modern world and its literature
seems puny.

"What extracts from the Vedas I have read fall on me like
the light of a higher and purer luminary, which describes
a loftier course through purer stratum. It rises on me
like the full moon after the stars have come out, wading
through some far stratum in the sky."

3. Arthur Schopenhauer:

"In the whole world there is no study so beneficial and
so elevating as that of the Upanishads. It has been the
solace of my life -- it will be the solace of my death."

4. Ralph Waldo Emerson said this about the Gita:

"I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad Gita. It was as
if an empire spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy, but
large, serene, consistent, the voice of an old
intelligence which in another age and climate had
pondered and thus disposed of the same questions which
exercise us."

The famous poem "Brahm" is an example of his Vedanta
ecstasy.

5. Wilhelm von Humboldt pronounced the Gita as:

"The most beautiful, perhaps the only true philosophical
song existing in any known tongue ... perhaps the deepest
and loftiest thing the world has to show."

6. Lord Warren Hastings, the Governor General, was very
much impressed with Hindu philosophy:

"The writers of the Indian philosophies will survive,
when the British dominion in India shall long have ceased
to exist, and when the sources which it yielded of wealth
and power are lost to remembrances."

7. Mark Twain:

"So far as I am able to judge, nothing has been left
undone, either by man or nature, to make India the most
extraordinary country that the sun visits on his rounds.
Nothing seems to have been forgotten, nothing overlooked.

"Land of religions, cradle of human race, birthplace of
human speech, grandmother of legend, great grandmother of
tradition. The land that all men desire to see and having
seen once even by a glimpse, would not give that glimpse
for the shows of the rest of the globe combined."

8. Rudyard Kipling to Fundamental Christian Missionaries:

"Now it is not good for the Christian's health to hustle
the Hindu brown for the Christian riles and the Hindu
smiles and weareth the Christian down; and the end of the
fight is a tombstone while with the name of the late
deceased and the epitaph drear, "A fool lies here who
tried to hustle the east".

9. Jules Michelet, a French historian, said:

"At its starting point in India, the birthplace of races
and religions, the womb of the world." This is what he
said of the Raamyana in 1864: "Whoever has done or willed
too much let him drink from this deep cup a long draught
of life and youth .. . Everything is narrow in the West -
- Greece is small and I stifle; Judea is dry and I pant.
Let me look toward lofty Asia, and the profound East for
a little while. There lies my great poem, as vast as the
Indian ocean, blessed, gilded with the sun, the book of
divine harmony wherein is no dissonance. A serene peace
reigns there, and in the midst of conflict an infinite
sweetness, a boundless fraternity, which spreads over all
living things, an ocean (without bottom or bound) of
love, of pity, of clemency."

10. Shri Aurobindo:

"Hinduism.....gave itself no name, because it set itself
no sectarian limits; it claimed no universal adhesion,
asserted no sole infallible dogma, set up no single
narrow path or gate of salvation; it was less a creed or
cult than a continuously enlarging tradition of the
Godward endeavor of the human spirit. An immense many-
sided and many staged provision for a spiritual self-
building and self-finding, it had some right to speak of
itself by the only name it knew, the eternal religion,
sanaatan dharm...."

11. Will Durant would like the West to learn from India,
tolerance and gentleness and love for all living things:

"Perhaps in return for conquest, arrogance and
spoliation, India will teach us the tolerance and
gentleness of the mature mind, the quiet content of the
unacquisitive soul, the calm of the understanding spirit,
and a unifying, a pacifying love for all living things."

12. Joseph Campbell:

"It is ironic that our great western civilization, which
has opened to the minds of all mankind the infinite
wonders of a universe of untold billions of galaxies
should be saddled with the tightest little cosmological
image known to mankind? The Hindus with their grandiose
Kalpas and their ideas of the divine power which is
beyond all human category (male or female). Not so alien
to the imagery of modern science that it could not have
been put to acceptable use.

"There is an important difference between the Hindu and
the Western ideas. In the Biblical tradition, God creates
man, but man cannot say that he is divine in the same
sense that the Creator is, where as in Hinduism, all
things are incarnations of that power. We are the sparks
from a single fire. And we are all fire. Hinduism
believes in the omnipresence of the Supreme God in every
individual. There is no 'fall'. Man is not cut off from
the divine. He requires only to bring the spontaneous
activity of his mind stuff to a state of stillness and he
will experience that divine principle with him."

13. Sir Monier-Williams:

The Hindus, according to him, were Spinozists more than
2,000 years before the advent of Spinoza, and Darwinians
many centuries before Darwin and Evolutionists many
centuries before the doctrine of Evolution was accepted
by scientists of the present age.

14. Carl Sagan, (the late scientist), asserts that the
dance of Nataraj signifies the cycle of evolution and
destruction of the cosmic universe (Big Bang Theory). "It
is the clearest image of the activity of God which any
art or religion can boast of."

15. Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan, a professor of Eastern
Religions at Oxford and later President of India:

"Hinduism is not just a faith. It is the union of reason
and intuition that cannot be defined but is only to be
experienced. Evil and error are not ultimate. There is no
Hell, for that means there is a place where God is not,
and there are sins which exceed his love."

1. Sage Kapil Muni who propounded the system of Sankhya Yoga, which is
based on ” systematic enumeration and rational examination” of the
universe.

2. Sage Kannada who propounded the system of Vaisheshika, which is
classified in nine basic realities (earth, water, light, air, ether,
time, space, soul and mind) to analyse the nature of the world.

3. Sage Patanjali who propounded Yoga by which one transcends the
world by linking with the Supreme.

4. Physicians - Charaka, Madhava-kara, Nagarjuna, Sushruta, Vagbhata

5. Mathematicians - Baudhayana sutras, Katyayana, Manava, Pa?ini,
Pingala, Vararuchi

6. Astrologers - Aryabhatt, Varaha Mihir, Bhaskaracharya, etc.

There are many more examples, the above is just an indication. Please
see below some quotes from modern scientists about Hindusim.

But the supreme scientist is Lord Krishna Himself. Dr Svarupa Damodara
Dasa Ph.D very expertly elucidates this in his article ‘Perceiving the
Existence of the Supreme Scientist, Lord Sri Krishna.”

Perceiving the Existence of the Supreme Scientist, Lord Sri Krishna |
Krishna.org

Albert Einstein
“We owe a lot to the Indians, who taught us how to count, without
which no worthwhile scientific discovery could have been made.”

Thoreau (American Thinker)

“Whenever I have read any part of the Vedas, I have felt that some
unearthly and unknown light illuminated me. In the great teaching of
the Vedas, there is no
touch of sectarianism. It is of all ages, climbs, and nationalities
and is the royal road for the attainment of the Great Knowledge.”

W. Heisenberg (German Physicist, 1901-1976)

“The Vedanta and the Sankhya hold the key to the laws of mind and
thought process which are co-related to the Quantum Field, i.e. the
operation and distribution of particles at atomic and molecular
levels.”

Prof. Brian David Josephson (1940 – ) Welsh physicist, the youngest
Nobel Laureate

” It is India that gave us the ingenious method of expressing all
numbers by ten symbols, each receiving a value of position as well as
an absolute value, a profound and important idea which appears so
simple to us now that we ignore its true merit. But its very
simplicity, the great ease which it has lent to all computations, puts
our arithmetic in the first rank of useful inventions, and we shall
appreciate the grandeur of this achievement the more when we remember
that it escaped the genius of Archimedes and Appollonius, two of the
greatest men produced by antiquity.”

Pierre Simon de Laplace, French mathematician, philosopher, and
astronomer:

Vedas(Old Sanskrit writings ) say that when SCIENCE ENDS SPIRITUALITY
BEGINS!Most of the scientific conclusions now being put forth by some
very acknowledged scientists were already mentioned by LORD KRISHNA in
HIS SONG, the BHAGWAD GITA.
Attila
2021-06-22 07:05:41 UTC
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Post by Attila
It's better than the alternative.
Yes, birth death, old age and disease are so nice.
Once here your options are limited.

Crap clipped unread
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Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

There are four despicable occupations:
Politicians - By far worse than all the others.
Pimps
Priests
Reporters

But there is nothing more loathsome than a liberal!

National Socialist American Worker's Party
(NSAWP) formally known as the Democrat Party
and now headed by Biden the Bastard and his
Two Bitches and supported by the Sluts and Pimps
including Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.
Jahnu
2021-06-23 03:00:50 UTC
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Once here your options are limited.
Especially yours. Atheism is a limitation of the mind.

We have free will so we can change our karma, or our destination, for
the better.

Actually, our free will can be boiled down to two choices I have to
make in life - do I choose to remain in samsara, in order to gratify
my body and mind, or do I choose to surrender to Krishna?

The first choice leads to birth, disease, old age and death, and the
second choice leads to eternity, knowledge and bliss.

It's that simple. It's kind of a no-brainer.

Krishna says:

Work done as a sacrifice for Vishnu has to be performed; otherwise
work causes bondage in this material world. Therefore, O son of Kunti,
perform your prescribed duties for His satisfaction, and in that way
you will always remain free from bondage. -Bg 3.9
Michelle Malkin
2021-06-23 04:11:19 UTC
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Post by Attila
Once here your options are limited.
Especially yours. Atheism is a limitation of the mind.
It is freedom to have your own opinions. No godthing to scare
you with a non-existent hell.
Post by Jahnu
We have free will so we can change our karma, or our destination, for
the better.
There is no free will in Christianity. You either do what the church tells
you to do or you go to its hell. That isn't freedom of any kind. It's rule
by fear.
Post by Jahnu
Actually, our free will can be boiled down to two choices I have to
make in life - do I choose to remain in samsara, in order to gratify
my body and mind, or do I choose to surrender to Krishna?
The first choice leads to birth, disease, old age and death, and the
second choice leads to eternity, knowledge and bliss.
It's that simple. It's kind of a no-brainer.
Work done as a sacrifice for Vishnu has to be performed; otherwise
work causes bondage in this material world. Therefore, O son of Kunti,
perform your prescribed duties for His satisfaction, and in that way
you will always remain free from bondage. -Bg 3.9
Jahnu
2021-06-24 05:41:31 UTC
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It is freedom to have your own opinions. No godthing to scare
you with a non-existent hell.
You really have to get over the church-crap, you grew up with over
there in Mickey Mouse land.


Krishna says:

Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these
kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be. (Bg 2.12)

As the embodied soul continuously passes, in this body, from boyhood
to youth to old age, the soul similarly passes into another body at
death. A sober person is not bewildered by such a change. (Bg 2.13)

I am never manifest to the foolish and unintelligent. For them I am
covered by My internal potency, and therefore they do not know that I
am unborn and infallible. (Bg. 7.25)
Michelle Malkin
2021-06-24 19:32:09 UTC
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On Tue, 22 Jun 2021 21:11:19 -0700 (PDT), Michelle Malkin
It is freedom to have your own opinions. No godthing to scare
you with a non-existent hell.
You really have to get over the church-crap, you grew up with over
there in Mickey Mouse land.
I have never been a Christian, Jesper. That was your problem,
not mine.
Michelle Malkin
2021-06-23 04:13:25 UTC
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Post by Attila
Once here your options are limited.
Especially yours. Atheism is a limitation of the mind.
We have free will so we can change our karma, or our destination, for
the better.
Actually, our free will can be boiled down to two choices I have to
make in life - do I choose to remain in samsara, in order to gratify
my body and mind, or do I choose to surrender to Krishna?
In other words, your version of Krishna is a dictator who gives you no choice.
Post by Jahnu
The first choice leads to birth, disease, old age and death, and the
second choice leads to eternity, knowledge and bliss.
It's that simple. It's kind of a no-brainer.
Work done as a sacrifice for Vishnu has to be performed; otherwise
work causes bondage in this material world. Therefore, O son of Kunti,
perform your prescribed duties for His satisfaction, and in that way
you will always remain free from bondage. -Bg 3.9
Attila
2021-06-23 05:20:23 UTC
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Once here your options are limited.
Especially yours. Atheism is a limitation of the mind.
I see it as a freedom. No gods to placate.

Usual crap clipped.
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Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

There are four despicable occupations:
Politicians - By far worse than all the others.
Pimps
Priests
Reporters

But there is nothing more loathsome than a liberal!

National Socialist American Worker's Party
(NSAWP) formally known as the Democrat Party
and now headed by Biden the Bastard and his
Two Bitches and supported by the Sluts and Pimps
including Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.
Jahnu
2021-06-24 05:39:25 UTC
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I see it as a freedom. No gods to placate.
Of course you do. Atheism makes you stupid.

Krishna says:

Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these
kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be. (Bg 2.12)

As the embodied soul continuously passes, in this body, from boyhood
to youth to old age, the soul similarly passes into another body at
death. A sober person is not bewildered by such a change. (Bg 2.13)

I am never manifest to the foolish and unintelligent. For them I am
covered by My internal potency, and therefore they do not know that I
am unborn and infallible. (Bg. 7.25)
Attila
2021-06-24 07:11:19 UTC
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Post by Jahnu
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I see it as a freedom. No gods to placate.
Of course you do. Atheism makes you stupid.
We have different definitions of stupid.

Crap clipped.
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Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

There are four despicable occupations:
Politicians - By far worse than all the others.
Pimps
Priests
Reporters

But there is nothing more loathsome than a liberal!

National Socialist American Worker's Party
(NSAWP) formally known as the Democrat Party
and now headed by Biden the Bastard and his
Two Bitches and supported by the Sluts and Pimps
including Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.
Michelle Malkin
2021-06-24 19:29:42 UTC
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I see it as a freedom. No gods to placate.
Of course you do. Atheism makes you stupid.
You never did realize that you won't convince
people of anything you say by insulting them.
I guess you're innately foolish, if you're too
ignorant to realize that. I'm not trying to
convince you of anything, just stating a fact.
You are nothing but a troll. And, you do nothing
but damage your religion. It's a wonder that the
Krishna Hippy-Hops haven't excommunicated
by now.
Michelle Malkin
2021-06-20 06:19:53 UTC
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Nobody (especially me) cares what is in your mind. You
cannot use logic as evidence.
Says who? A meat-eating piece of shit like you?
hahaha :D
Have you turned green yet, Jesper. Or, are you still
sneaking out to Indian fast food places that serve meat?
Post by Jahnu
To say that belief in God is no more than superstition is just
foolish. To suggest that humanity, since the beginning of time, has
been devoted to a superstition, is at best a baseless, unintelligent
assertion.
A common saying by atheists is that belief in God is no different than
believing in Santa Claus or the tooth fairy. Statements like that
clearly show the damage atheism does to the mind.
The most brilliant thinkers, philosophers, and scientists throughout
history have advocated beleif in God. Do you know of any intelligent
person or scientist who believes in the tooth fairy?
To think that likening Santa Claus to God is a valid comparison simply
exposes you as an unthinking, suggestible person. Another popular
pastime of atheists is to reject God on the basis of the Abrahamic
religions they grew up with.
That’s just another facet of ignorance, widespread in the modern
world. Who wouldn’t reject a God who could do no better than the Bible
or the Koran, or the Talmud, for that matter?
"Those miscreants who are grossly foolish, who are lowest among
mankind, whose knowledge is stolen by illusion, and who partake of the
atheistic nature of demons do not surrender unto Me." (Bg 7.15 )
John Locke
2021-06-08 05:08:19 UTC
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Does God exist according to science?
...pointless question because science doesn't waste its
time trying substantiate childish fairy tales !


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hhya...@gmail.com
2021-06-08 09:22:10 UTC
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Yes.
You pull nonsense from your own ass, just to satisfy your own stupidity????????
Harry Krishna
2021-06-08 13:08:30 UTC
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The best proof of God, in my mind, is logic, reason and common sense.
How the fuck would you know, Jesper, since you possess none of those?
WangoTango
2021-06-08 23:34:05 UTC
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Yes
I don't know any science that can prove magic.
Andrew
2021-06-09 08:31:20 UTC
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Yes
I don't know any science that can prove magic.
Do you know any ~science~ that can "scientifically"
explain to us the origin of biological information?

Because biological information is there in all living
things. Without which they could not live, function,
metabolize or reproduce.

So where does all of this biological information
come from? It could only have originated from
some ~intelligent Source~ that had a plan and a
purpose for it.

This cannot be explained by science.

If you think otherwise, then please cite.

But you can not and you will not.

Because to do so is impossible.
hhya...@gmail.com
2021-06-09 08:58:32 UTC
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Yes
I don't know any science that can prove magic.
Do you know any ~science~ that can "scientifically"
explain to us the origin of biological information?
Because biological information is there in all living
things. Without which they could not live, function,
metabolize or reproduce.
So where does all of this biological information
come from? It could only have originated from
some ~intelligent Source~ that had a plan and a
purpose for it.
This cannot be explained by science.
If you think otherwise, then please cite.
But you can not and you will not.
Because to do so is impossible.
Assuming you are correct, how come the races of people stopped at current numbers?
I have never seen a white person with a black head...or a black person with a White head!!!!!!!11
Michelle Malkin
2021-06-11 23:33:33 UTC
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Yes
I don't know any science that can prove magic.
Do you know any ~science~ that can "scientifically"
explain to us the origin of biological information?
Because biological information is there in all living
things. Without which they could not live, function,
metabolize or reproduce.
So where does all of this biological information
come from? It could only have originated from
some ~intelligent Source~ that had a plan and a
purpose for it.
This cannot be explained by science.
If you think otherwise, then please cite.
But you can not and you will not.
Because to do so is impossible.
Assuming you are correct, how come the races of people stopped at current numbers?
I have never seen a white person with a black head...or a black person with a White head!!!!!!!11
Beal and Lokai may have something to say about that - only in reverse to each other.
JWS
2021-06-09 10:16:12 UTC
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Yes
I don't know any science that can prove magic.
Do you know any ~science~ that can "scientifically"
explain to us the origin of biological information?
Because biological information is there in all living
things. Without which they could not live, function,
metabolize or reproduce.
So where does all of this biological information
come from? It could only have originated from
some ~intelligent Source~ that had a plan and a
purpose for it.
This cannot be explained by science.
If you think otherwise, then please cite.
But you can not and you will not.
Because to do so is impossible.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9150565/
Attila
2021-06-13 16:52:54 UTC
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Post by WangoTango
Yes
I don't know any science that can prove magic.
Do you know any ~science~ that can "scientifically"
explain to us the origin of biological information?
Because biological information is there in all living
things. Without which they could not live, function,
metabolize or reproduce.
So where does all of this biological information
come from? It could only have originated from
some ~intelligent Source~ that had a plan and a
purpose for it.
This cannot be explained by science.
If you think otherwise, then please cite.
But you can not and you will not.
Because to do so is impossible.
How do you know it is impossible rather than not yet known?
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Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

There are four despicable occupations:
Politicians - By far worse than all the others.
Pimps
Priests
Reporters

But there is nothing more loathsome than a liberal!

National Socialist American Worker's Party
(NSAWP) formally known as the Democrat Party
and now headed by Biden the Bastard and his
Two Bitches and supported by the Sluts and Pimps
including Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.
Attila
2021-06-13 16:51:46 UTC
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Yes
I don't know any science that can prove magic.
Science doesn't address gods. Science is based on fact and
evidence while gods are based on faith.
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

There are four despicable occupations:
Politicians - By far worse than all the others.
Pimps
Priests
Reporters

But there is nothing more loathsome than a liberal!

National Socialist American Worker's Party
(NSAWP) formally known as the Democrat Party
and now headed by Biden the Bastard and his
Two Bitches and supported by the Sluts and Pimps
including Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.
Andrew W
2021-06-16 06:44:18 UTC
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Post by WangoTango
Yes
I don't know any science that can prove magic.
Science doesn't address gods. Science is based on fact and
evidence while gods are based on faith.
Science is a set of scientific established beliefs according to the
prevailing majority/civilisation (or corrupt minority/elites) of the time.
It contains some faith.

Spiritual beliefs/knowledge that involves
experiences/communication/breakthroughs with other world beings is not faith
based, because they involved real experiences.
--
http://members.optusnet.com.au/ajwerner/

Forcing someone to either worship or burn is called tyranny. Never follow
any leader who gives lifelong (or eternal) torture in a fire as one of your
'free' choices, because that is a despot.

http://www.rumormillnews.com -- The best alternative news site
Attila
2021-06-16 09:45:43 UTC
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Post by WangoTango
Yes
I don't know any science that can prove magic.
Science doesn't address gods. Science is based on fact and
evidence while gods are based on faith.
Science is a set of scientific established beliefs according to the
prevailing majority/civilisation (or corrupt minority/elites) of the time.
It contains some faith.
I disagree. True science is based upon observation and
supporting evidence.
Post by Andrew W
Spiritual beliefs/knowledge that involves
experiences/communication/breakthroughs with other world beings is not faith
based, because they involved real experiences.
I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything
spiritual being real. Therefore I consider the subject
imaginary. Anything that involves experiences that are not
repeatable upon demand is suspect. How is one to know they
are reported accurately and are not delusions,
hallucinations or just lies?
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

There are four despicable occupations:
Politicians - By far worse than all the others.
Pimps
Priests
Reporters

But there is nothing more loathsome than a liberal!

National Socialist American Worker's Party
(NSAWP) formally known as the Democrat Party
and now headed by Biden the Bastard and his
Two Bitches and supported by the Sluts and Pimps
including Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.
Andrew W
2021-06-16 12:48:05 UTC
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On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 16:44:18 +1000, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by Attila
On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 19:34:05 -0400, WangoTango
Post by WangoTango
Yes
I don't know any science that can prove magic.
Science doesn't address gods. Science is based on fact and
evidence while gods are based on faith.
Science is a set of scientific established beliefs according to the
prevailing majority/civilisation (or corrupt minority/elites) of the time.
It contains some faith.
I disagree. True science is based upon observation and
supporting evidence.
What is "true science"? Is it like "true religion"?
Neither exist because no one world ever be able to agree on which science is
true and which is false.
Everyone's observation/viewpoint is different.
Post by Attila
Post by Andrew W
Spiritual beliefs/knowledge that involves
experiences/communication/breakthroughs with other world beings is not faith
based, because they involved real experiences.
I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything
spiritual being real. Therefore I consider the subject
imaginary.
Of course you haven't seen evidence. Because -
1/ You haven't yet looked for any on this specific subject.
2/ You yourself haven't experienced anything other than the mundane every
day.
So you can't say.
Post by Attila
Anything that involves experiences that are not
repeatable upon demand is suspect.
In a court of law people are regularly convicted despite non repeatable
experiences.
Post by Attila
How is one to know they
are reported accurately and are not delusions,
hallucinations or just lies?
If several people over time have the same positive results or negative
effects in their lives.
If more than one person in different countries actually meet non human
beings/entities at the same time with advanced information.
--
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Forcing someone to either worship or burn is called tyranny. Never follow
any leader who gives lifelong (or eternal) torture in a fire as one of your
'free' choices, because that is a despot.

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Attila
2021-06-16 13:15:01 UTC
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Post by Andrew W
Post by Attila
On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 16:44:18 +1000, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by Attila
On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 19:34:05 -0400, WangoTango
Post by WangoTango
Yes
I don't know any science that can prove magic.
Science doesn't address gods. Science is based on fact and
evidence while gods are based on faith.
Science is a set of scientific established beliefs according to the
prevailing majority/civilisation (or corrupt minority/elites) of the time.
It contains some faith.
I disagree. True science is based upon observation and
supporting evidence.
What is "true science"? Is it like "true religion"?
True science as opposed to pseudo-science. Pseudo-science
such as IE and so forth.


sci·ence
/'si?ns/
noun
the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the
systematic study of the structure and behavior of the
physical and natural world through observation and
experiment.
Post by Andrew W
Neither exist because no one world ever be able to agree on which science is
true and which is false.
Wrong, of course. Theists try anything to undermine science
since they have no evidence to support their superstition.
Post by Andrew W
Everyone's observation/viewpoint is different.
Not really.
Post by Andrew W
Post by Attila
Post by Andrew W
Spiritual beliefs/knowledge that involves
experiences/communication/breakthroughs with other world beings is not faith
based, because they involved real experiences.
I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything
spiritual being real. Therefore I consider the subject
imaginary.
Of course you haven't seen evidence. Because -
1/ You haven't yet looked for any on this specific subject.
It is not necessary to "look for" nay evidence. It is the
responsibility of the party asserting the claim to provide
the supporting evidence for that claim.
Post by Andrew W
2/ You yourself haven't experienced anything other than the mundane every
day.
Personal experience is evidence of nothing.
Post by Andrew W
So you can't say.
I just did.
Post by Andrew W
Post by Attila
Anything that involves experiences that are not
repeatable upon demand is suspect.
In a court of law people are regularly convicted despite non repeatable
experiences.
This is not a court of law and in such a court there is a
judge who decides what is allowed and what is not.
Experiences are seldom if ever a basis for any convictions.
Post by Andrew W
Post by Attila
How is one to know they
are reported accurately and are not delusions,
hallucinations or just lies?
If several people over time have the same positive results or negative
effects in their lives.
Which proves nothing. There is such a thing as mass
hysteria plus psychological influence.
Post by Andrew W
If more than one person in different countries actually meet non human
beings/entities at the same time with advanced information.
Now we are supposed to accept as valid the claims of little
green men abducting people for sex experiments?

You have shown you can believe anything.

I do not.
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

There are four despicable occupations:
Politicians - By far worse than all the others.
Pimps
Priests
Reporters

But there is nothing more loathsome than a liberal!

National Socialist American Worker's Party
(NSAWP) formally known as the Democrat Party
and now headed by Biden the Bastard and his
Two Bitches and supported by the Sluts and Pimps
including Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.
Andrew W
2021-06-16 05:20:33 UTC
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Post by Jahnu
Yes.
The best proof of God,
The huge question you and others keep missing strangely is, what exactly is
a 'God'?
And is he/it physical or non physical?
If you say non physical then you need to explain the countless human like
and physical attributes of 'God' in the OT.

Your post is a big fail like the rest.
--
http://members.optusnet.com.au/ajwerner/

Forcing someone to either worship or burn is called tyranny. Never follow
any leader who gives lifelong (or eternal) torture in a fire as one of your
'free' choices, because that is a despot.

http://www.rumormillnews.com -- The best alternative news site
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