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Jeanne Douglas
2017-01-30 17:01:27 UTC
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On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 15:31:36 -0500, "Scout"
On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 08:58:24 -0500, "Scout"
On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 03:13:42 -0700, Just Wondering
Our legal system is based on the Constitution, and that is
the only basis for any laws in the US.
We have a HUGE administrative law system. There's nothing
in the Constitution that empowers the federal government to
establish an administrative agency, especially an agency that's
under the control of the executive branch but is given power to
enact regulations with the force of law. That's a delegation of
legislative power to the executive branch, a violation of the
separation of powers that is blatantly unconstitutional.
There have been court challenges to every one of these, and the
courts
have said they are - wait for it - Constitutional.
Which merely goes to show that the opinions of the court need no basis
in
law. They simply have to assert it's there and *poof* it now case law.
Otherwise known as the made up invention from the opinion of the court
on
what the law is.
The court is charged with basing opinions on the law.
According to you the law is whatever the courts say it is.
What it means is whatever the court says it means but that
interpretation is supposed to be based upon prior existing law.
You acknowledge there is no enforcement mechanism for that. It's
nothing but wishful thinking on your part.
Yet the system works, and has worked well .
You can't say, because you have no way of knowing if courts are basing
their decision on existing law or not. You *couldn't* possibly know
that. You're presuming it to be the case, but that's presumptuous.
Thus you're telling us that the court is charged with basing their
opinion
on what their opinion of the law is.
Thai is why it is called a legal opinion.
That's not what it's called. It's called a *holding*, and it has the
force of law, even though it sometimes is lawless.
I could have the term wrong - as I have frequently said I am not an
expert.
And as you routinely reveal.
Talk about circular reasoning.
Meanwhile, please tell me when you became a court of law, such that you
can
have an opinion on the law.
I have no such opinion. I am simply relating how courts work.
No, you're not, because you don't know. You're not a lawyer and you're
not a legal scholar. You're not even a political scholar. You're an
opinionated mouth whose opinions are based on nothing but your beliefs.
Oh? Just where am I wrong? What are your qualifications to make this
judgment?
You're wrong when you presume that courts are basing their decisions on
prior law. As I have elaborated, you have no possible way of knowing that.
Other than their citing that prior law in their decisions, of course.
--
JD


"May your winter feast be an orgy of delight"
-- The Big Furry, Late Show with Stephen
Colbert
Mike Kuhn
2017-01-30 17:06:00 UTC
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Post by Jeanne Douglas
On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 15:31:36 -0500, "Scout"
On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 08:58:24 -0500, "Scout"
On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 03:13:42 -0700, Just Wondering
Our legal system is based on the Constitution, and that is
the only basis for any laws in the US.
We have a HUGE administrative law system. There's nothing
in the Constitution that empowers the federal government to
establish an administrative agency, especially an agency that's
under the control of the executive branch but is given power to
enact regulations with the force of law. That's a delegation of
legislative power to the executive branch, a violation of the
separation of powers that is blatantly unconstitutional.
There have been court challenges to every one of these, and the
courts
have said they are - wait for it - Constitutional.
Which merely goes to show that the opinions of the court need no basis
in
law. They simply have to assert it's there and *poof* it now case law.
Otherwise known as the made up invention from the opinion of the court
on
what the law is.
The court is charged with basing opinions on the law.
According to you the law is whatever the courts say it is.
What it means is whatever the court says it means but that
interpretation is supposed to be based upon prior existing law.
You acknowledge there is no enforcement mechanism for that. It's
nothing but wishful thinking on your part.
Yet the system works, and has worked well .
You can't say, because you have no way of knowing if courts are basing
their decision on existing law or not. You *couldn't* possibly know
that. You're presuming it to be the case, but that's presumptuous.
Thus you're telling us that the court is charged with basing their
opinion
on what their opinion of the law is.
Thai is why it is called a legal opinion.
That's not what it's called. It's called a *holding*, and it has the
force of law, even though it sometimes is lawless.
I could have the term wrong - as I have frequently said I am not an
expert.
And as you routinely reveal.
Talk about circular reasoning.
Meanwhile, please tell me when you became a court of law, such that you
can
have an opinion on the law.
I have no such opinion. I am simply relating how courts work.
No, you're not, because you don't know. You're not a lawyer and you're
not a legal scholar. You're not even a political scholar. You're an
opinionated mouth whose opinions are based on nothing but your beliefs.
Oh? Just where am I wrong? What are your qualifications to make this
judgment?
You're wrong when you presume that courts are basing their decisions on
prior law. As I have elaborated, you have no possible way of knowing that.
Other than their citing that prior law in their decisions, of course.
Which they don't always do, of course.

You're no more a lawyer or legal scholar than he is...and he admits not
to being one in any way.
checkered demon
2017-01-30 17:59:16 UTC
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Post by Mike Kuhn
You're no more a lawyer or legal scholar than he is...
Shaddup tRudey, your act is about to get DESTROYED here again:

You're the pathetic Jonathan Ball, you miserable little turdblossom!

We return you to the Jonathan Ball exhibition display:


11 years ago, while posting under this current nym, Rudy Canoza, we had a
discussion about a revised marketing claim concerning grass-fed beef from
USDA. You claimed that you had written to and received a reply from
William T.
Sessions, Associate Deputy Administrator, Livestock and Seed Program. Here
below is the post you wrote using the nym Rudy Canoza containing your
correspondence with William Sessions.

[start- Jon to me]
Eat shit and bark at the moon, Dreck - the proposed
standard has NOT been adopted. I wrote to William
Sessions, the associate deputy administrator (how's
that for a title) at the Livestock and Seed Program at
USDA that is in charge of writing the standard for the
"meat marketing claims"; his name, title and e-mail
address are at a web page whose URL I gave yesterday,
http://www.fass.org/fasstrack/news_item.asp?news_id=1152

Here's his reply:

From: "Sessions, William" <***@usda.gov>
To: <jonball@[...]>
Mr. Ball: Thanks for your message. The marketing claim
standards are still under review by USDA. Accordingly, the
standards have not been published in a final form for use. I
hope this information is helpful.
Please let me know if further information is needed.
Thanks,
William T. Sessions
Associate Deputy Administrator
Livestock and Seed Program

-----Original Message-----
From: jonball@[...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 11:38 AM
To: Sessions, William
Subject: 2003 proposed standards for meat marketing claims

I have read about the proposed standards, and I've seen
many of the public comments sent to USDA. I cannot find
anything to indicate if the standards were adopted.
Were the standards as proposed in 2003 adopted?

Thanks in advance.
Jonathan Ball
Pasadena, CA
___________________________________________________
Jonathan Ball aka Rudy Canoza 08 Sep 2005 http://bit.ly/2cYknsh
[end]

Jonathan Ball. Pasadena, CA. Priceless! That email, posted from Jonathan
Ball,
you, and the return email sent to Jonathan Ball proves beyond all doubt that
you are Jonathan Ball. Of course, you don't live in Pasadena since moving to
5327 Shepard Ave Sacramento, CA 95819-1731

Here's the proof Jonathan D Ball http://bit.ly/1LFy9t8
Post by Mike Kuhn
and I won't die soon.
Yeah you will. You're an old man who hasn't looked after himself. I wouldn't
go around goading people if I was as small and as puny as you are, liar Jon.
You ought to be very careful.
Post by Mike Kuhn
You certainly have no means to hasten my death.
Are you really serious, weed? you're just over 5 feet tall and 64 years old.
You'll be 65 on December 2nd. You've got to stop threatening people and
goading them to come after you. You're pathetic.
checkered demon
2017-01-30 17:59:32 UTC
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Post by Mike Kuhn
You're no more a lawyer or legal scholar than he is...
Shaddup tRudey, your act is about to get DESTROYED here again:

You're the pathetic Jonathan Ball, you miserable little turdblossom!

We return you to the Jonathan Ball exhibition display:


11 years ago, while posting under this current nym, Rudy Canoza, we had a
discussion about a revised marketing claim concerning grass-fed beef from
USDA. You claimed that you had written to and received a reply from
William T.
Sessions, Associate Deputy Administrator, Livestock and Seed Program. Here
below is the post you wrote using the nym Rudy Canoza containing your
correspondence with William Sessions.

[start- Jon to me]
Eat shit and bark at the moon, Dreck - the proposed
standard has NOT been adopted. I wrote to William
Sessions, the associate deputy administrator (how's
that for a title) at the Livestock and Seed Program at
USDA that is in charge of writing the standard for the
"meat marketing claims"; his name, title and e-mail
address are at a web page whose URL I gave yesterday,
http://www.fass.org/fasstrack/news_item.asp?news_id=1152

Here's his reply:

From: "Sessions, William" <***@usda.gov>
To: <jonball@[...]>
Mr. Ball: Thanks for your message. The marketing claim
standards are still under review by USDA. Accordingly, the
standards have not been published in a final form for use. I
hope this information is helpful.
Please let me know if further information is needed.
Thanks,
William T. Sessions
Associate Deputy Administrator
Livestock and Seed Program

-----Original Message-----
From: jonball@[...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 11:38 AM
To: Sessions, William
Subject: 2003 proposed standards for meat marketing claims

I have read about the proposed standards, and I've seen
many of the public comments sent to USDA. I cannot find
anything to indicate if the standards were adopted.
Were the standards as proposed in 2003 adopted?

Thanks in advance.
Jonathan Ball
Pasadena, CA
___________________________________________________
Jonathan Ball aka Rudy Canoza 08 Sep 2005 http://bit.ly/2cYknsh
[end]

Jonathan Ball. Pasadena, CA. Priceless! That email, posted from Jonathan
Ball,
you, and the return email sent to Jonathan Ball proves beyond all doubt that
you are Jonathan Ball. Of course, you don't live in Pasadena since moving to
5327 Shepard Ave Sacramento, CA 95819-1731

Here's the proof Jonathan D Ball http://bit.ly/1LFy9t8
Post by Mike Kuhn
and I won't die soon.
Yeah you will. You're an old man who hasn't looked after himself. I wouldn't
go around goading people if I was as small and as puny as you are, liar Jon.
You ought to be very careful.
Post by Mike Kuhn
You certainly have no means to hasten my death.
Are you really serious, weed? you're just over 5 feet tall and 64 years old.
You'll be 65 on December 2nd. You've got to stop threatening people and
goading them to come after you. You're pathetic.
checkered demon
2017-01-30 18:55:44 UTC
Permalink
he admits not to being one in any way.
Shaddup tRudey, your act is about to get DESTROYED here again:

You're the pathetic Jonathan Ball, you miserable little turdblossom!

We return you to the Jonathan Ball exhibition display:


11 years ago, while posting under this current nym, Rudy Canoza, we had a
discussion about a revised marketing claim concerning grass-fed beef from
USDA. You claimed that you had written to and received a reply from
William T.
Sessions, Associate Deputy Administrator, Livestock and Seed Program. Here
below is the post you wrote using the nym Rudy Canoza containing your
correspondence with William Sessions.

[start- Jon to me]
Eat shit and bark at the moon, Dreck - the proposed
standard has NOT been adopted. I wrote to William
Sessions, the associate deputy administrator (how's
that for a title) at the Livestock and Seed Program at
USDA that is in charge of writing the standard for the
"meat marketing claims"; his name, title and e-mail
address are at a web page whose URL I gave yesterday,
http://www.fass.org/fasstrack/news_item.asp?news_id=1152

Here's his reply:

From: "Sessions, William" <***@usda.gov>
To: <jonball@[...]>
Mr. Ball: Thanks for your message. The marketing claim
standards are still under review by USDA. Accordingly, the
standards have not been published in a final form for use. I
hope this information is helpful.
Please let me know if further information is needed.
Thanks,
William T. Sessions
Associate Deputy Administrator
Livestock and Seed Program

-----Original Message-----
From: jonball@[...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 11:38 AM
To: Sessions, William
Subject: 2003 proposed standards for meat marketing claims

I have read about the proposed standards, and I've seen
many of the public comments sent to USDA. I cannot find
anything to indicate if the standards were adopted.
Were the standards as proposed in 2003 adopted?

Thanks in advance.
Jonathan Ball
Pasadena, CA
___________________________________________________
Jonathan Ball aka Rudy Canoza 08 Sep 2005 http://bit.ly/2cYknsh
[end]

Jonathan Ball. Pasadena, CA. Priceless! That email, posted from Jonathan
Ball,
you, and the return email sent to Jonathan Ball proves beyond all doubt that
you are Jonathan Ball. Of course, you don't live in Pasadena since moving to
5327 Shepard Ave Sacramento, CA 95819-1731

Here's the proof Jonathan D Ball http://bit.ly/1LFy9t8
and I won't die soon.
Yeah you will. You're an old man who hasn't looked after himself. I wouldn't
go around goading people if I was as small and as puny as you are, liar Jon.
You ought to be very careful.
You certainly have no means to hasten my death.
Are you really serious, weed? you're just over 5 feet tall and 64 years old.
You'll be 65 on December 2nd. You've got to stop threatening people and
goading them to come after you. You're pathetic.
checkered demon
2017-01-30 19:12:10 UTC
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They did not in any way make up a definition.
Exactly.
-- JD
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I don't take orders from you, you silly goose.
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Posted on behalf of:
The DemocRATs Hall of Shame!
checkered demon
2017-01-30 19:12:47 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jeanne Douglas
Other than their citing that prior law in their decisions, of course.
-- JD
Frauds are Exposed:

Buster Norris Impersonation:

From: Buster Norris <***@buster.com>
Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server
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Patriot Games Impersonation:

From: Patriot Games <***@america.com>
Organization: Lemonparty.org
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"bb.sky.com" =

From: Jeanne Douglas <***@NOSPAMpacbell.net>

"hlwdjsd" =

Name: Jeanne Douglas
"Bio Baseball fanatic (GO ANGELS!) and compulsive follower of
progressive politics."
http://twitter.com/hlwdjsd

YouTube - hlwdjsd's Channel; Age: 59
http://www.youtube.com/user/hlwdjsd

Jeanne Douglas
Holllywood, CA: http://digg.com/hlwdjsd/following

CNET Community Member Profile: http://www.cnet.com/profile/hlwdjsd

hlwdjsd.blogspot.com/

Amazon.com: Profile for J. S. Douglas "hlwdjsd". (REAL NAME).
Location: Hollyweird, CA ...
www.amazon.com/gp/pdp/profile/A1BXR4SI6MQLHV

Home Address:

Jeanne Douglas
7941 Selma Ave,
Apt 218
Los Angeles, CA 90046
(323) 656-7357

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[Courtesy of Buster Norris]

Yer a 400-pounder!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.peekyou.com/jeanne_douglas/37045400
You scored 1.60 out of 10!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OLD: http://www.myspace.com/110539116
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NEW: myspace.com/561335290
Oops! She's got Herpes!
http://responsibledating.com/community/index.php?do=/hlwdjsd/

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[Courtesy of Buster Norris]
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/8fff1088d734b4ed?hl=en
The Beast that Ate Hollywood would like you to know that she's a
secretary at UCLA in the Physics Dept.

They probably use her for gravity experiments on super-dense
objects........ HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IP: 169.232.154.216
***@gmail.com
Los Angeles, CA
Latitude: 33.7866 Longitude: -118.2987
Host: jd.physics.ucla.edu

Jeanne Douglas - Admin Specialist [Secretary or Clerk]
310-825-1678
Physics & Astronomy
Dept Code 1000
***@physics.ucla.edu
4-140B Knudsen

Jeanne Douglas
UCLA Physocs & Astronomy
BOX 951547, 4-140B Knudsen
Los Angeles, CA 90095-1547

Employment Services
Phone 310-794-0890

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References
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Jeanne 'The Beast That Ate Hollywood' Douglas using her 'aioe.org'
account with her REAL NAME:

From: Jeanne Douglas <***@NOSPAMpacbell.net>
NNTP-Posting-Host: Dn01HP7seZtxMmrUMC4ndQ.user.speranza.aioe.org
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 03:20:36 -0800
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User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.5.2 (Intel Mac OS X)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/bb24a2a6a95d862d?hl=en&dmode=source

From: Jeanne Douglas <***@NOSPAMpacbell.net>
NNTP-Posting-Host: ckvNbXipBnVpQJPE3/DVBg.user.speranza.aioe.org
Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 22:33:25 -0700
Message-ID: <hlwdjsd-***@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com>
User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.5.2 (Intel Mac OS X)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/0ef2be2c63e1b376?hl=en&dmode=source

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Jeanne 'The Beast That Ate Hollywood' Douglas using her 'aioe.org'
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Posted on behalf of:
The DemocRATs Hall of Shame!
checkered demon
2017-01-30 19:13:28 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jeanne Douglas
Other than their citing that prior law in their decisions, of course.
-- JD
Frauds are Exposed:

Buster Norris Impersonation:

From: Buster Norris <***@buster.com>
Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server
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Patriot Games Impersonation:

From: Patriot Games <***@america.com>
Organization: Lemonparty.org
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"bb.sky.com" =

From: Jeanne Douglas <***@NOSPAMpacbell.net>

"hlwdjsd" =

Name: Jeanne Douglas
"Bio Baseball fanatic (GO ANGELS!) and compulsive follower of
progressive politics."
http://twitter.com/hlwdjsd

YouTube - hlwdjsd's Channel; Age: 59
http://www.youtube.com/user/hlwdjsd

Jeanne Douglas
Holllywood, CA: http://digg.com/hlwdjsd/following

CNET Community Member Profile: http://www.cnet.com/profile/hlwdjsd

hlwdjsd.blogspot.com/

Amazon.com: Profile for J. S. Douglas "hlwdjsd". (REAL NAME).
Location: Hollyweird, CA ...
www.amazon.com/gp/pdp/profile/A1BXR4SI6MQLHV

Home Address:

Jeanne Douglas
7941 Selma Ave,
Apt 218
Los Angeles, CA 90046
(323) 656-7357

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[Courtesy of Buster Norris]

Yer a 400-pounder!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.peekyou.com/jeanne_douglas/37045400
You scored 1.60 out of 10!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OLD: http://www.myspace.com/110539116
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NEW: myspace.com/561335290
Oops! She's got Herpes!
http://responsibledating.com/community/index.php?do=/hlwdjsd/

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[Courtesy of Buster Norris]
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/8fff1088d734b4ed?hl=en
The Beast that Ate Hollywood would like you to know that she's a
secretary at UCLA in the Physics Dept.

They probably use her for gravity experiments on super-dense
objects........ HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IP: 169.232.154.216
***@gmail.com
Los Angeles, CA
Latitude: 33.7866 Longitude: -118.2987
Host: jd.physics.ucla.edu

Jeanne Douglas - Admin Specialist [Secretary or Clerk]
310-825-1678
Physics & Astronomy
Dept Code 1000
***@physics.ucla.edu
4-140B Knudsen

Jeanne Douglas
UCLA Physocs & Astronomy
BOX 951547, 4-140B Knudsen
Los Angeles, CA 90095-1547

Employment Services
Phone 310-794-0890

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References
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Jeanne 'The Beast That Ate Hollywood' Douglas using her 'aioe.org'
account with her REAL NAME:

From: Jeanne Douglas <***@NOSPAMpacbell.net>
NNTP-Posting-Host: Dn01HP7seZtxMmrUMC4ndQ.user.speranza.aioe.org
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 03:20:36 -0800
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User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.5.2 (Intel Mac OS X)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/bb24a2a6a95d862d?hl=en&dmode=source

From: Jeanne Douglas <***@NOSPAMpacbell.net>
NNTP-Posting-Host: ckvNbXipBnVpQJPE3/DVBg.user.speranza.aioe.org
Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 22:33:25 -0700
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User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.5.2 (Intel Mac OS X)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/0ef2be2c63e1b376?hl=en&dmode=source

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Jeanne 'The Beast That Ate Hollywood' Douglas using her 'aioe.org'
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The DemocRATs Hall of Shame!
Siri Cruise
2017-01-30 19:48:43 UTC
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Post by Jeanne Douglas
Other than their citing that prior law in their decisions, of course.
-- JD
Fuck off, spammy. You are going *DOWN*, bitch.
checkered demon
2017-01-30 19:52:54 UTC
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Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Jeanne Douglas
Other than their citing that prior law in their decisions, of course.
-- JD
Fuck off, spammy. You are going *DOWN*, bitch.
Shaddup tRudey, your act is about to get DESTROYED here again:

You're the pathetic Jonathan Ball, you miserable little turdblossom!

We return you to the Jonathan Ball exhibition display:


11 years ago, while posting under this current nym, Rudy Canoza, we had a
discussion about a revised marketing claim concerning grass-fed beef from
USDA. You claimed that you had written to and received a reply from
William T.
Sessions, Associate Deputy Administrator, Livestock and Seed Program. Here
below is the post you wrote using the nym Rudy Canoza containing your
correspondence with William Sessions.

[start- Jon to me]
Eat shit and bark at the moon, Dreck - the proposed
standard has NOT been adopted. I wrote to William
Sessions, the associate deputy administrator (how's
that for a title) at the Livestock and Seed Program at
USDA that is in charge of writing the standard for the
"meat marketing claims"; his name, title and e-mail
address are at a web page whose URL I gave yesterday,
http://www.fass.org/fasstrack/news_item.asp?news_id=1152

Here's his reply:

From: "Sessions, William" <***@usda.gov>
To: <jonball@[...]>
Mr. Ball: Thanks for your message. The marketing claim
standards are still under review by USDA. Accordingly, the
standards have not been published in a final form for use. I
hope this information is helpful.
Please let me know if further information is needed.
Thanks,
William T. Sessions
Associate Deputy Administrator
Livestock and Seed Program

-----Original Message-----
From: jonball@[...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 11:38 AM
To: Sessions, William
Subject: 2003 proposed standards for meat marketing claims

I have read about the proposed standards, and I've seen
many of the public comments sent to USDA. I cannot find
anything to indicate if the standards were adopted.
Were the standards as proposed in 2003 adopted?

Thanks in advance.
Jonathan Ball
Pasadena, CA
___________________________________________________
Jonathan Ball aka Rudy Canoza 08 Sep 2005 http://bit.ly/2cYknsh
[end]

Jonathan Ball. Pasadena, CA. Priceless! That email, posted from Jonathan
Ball,
you, and the return email sent to Jonathan Ball proves beyond all doubt that
you are Jonathan Ball. Of course, you don't live in Pasadena since moving to
5327 Shepard Ave Sacramento, CA 95819-1731

Here's the proof Jonathan D Ball http://bit.ly/1LFy9t8
Post by Siri Cruise
and I won't die soon.
Yeah you will. You're an old man who hasn't looked after himself. I wouldn't
go around goading people if I was as small and as puny as you are, liar Jon.
You ought to be very careful.
Post by Siri Cruise
You certainly have no means to hasten my death.
Are you really serious, weed? you're just over 5 feet tall and 64 years old.
You'll be 65 on December 2nd. You've got to stop threatening people and
goading them to come after you. You're pathetic.
Scout
2017-01-30 20:49:06 UTC
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On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 15:31:36 -0500, "Scout"
On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 08:58:24 -0500, "Scout"
On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 03:13:42 -0700, Just Wondering
Our legal system is based on the Constitution, and that is
the only basis for any laws in the US.
We have a HUGE administrative law system. There's nothing
in the Constitution that empowers the federal government to
establish an administrative agency, especially an agency that's
under the control of the executive branch but is given power to
enact regulations with the force of law. That's a delegation of
legislative power to the executive branch, a violation of the
separation of powers that is blatantly unconstitutional.
There have been court challenges to every one of these, and the courts
have said they are - wait for it - Constitutional.
Which merely goes to show that the opinions of the court need no basis
in
law. They simply have to assert it's there and *poof* it now case law.
Otherwise known as the made up invention from the opinion of the court
on
what the law is.
The court is charged with basing opinions on the law.
According to you the law is whatever the courts say it is.
What it means is whatever the court says it means but that
interpretation is supposed to be based upon prior existing law.
Supposed to be.....well shit... with assurances like that why would anyone
ever question the courts......why even bother having a Constitution or a
Legislature.....we can just let leave everything to the courts.

Oh, that's right, the courts don't base everything upon prior existing law,
instead they not only ignore existing law, but even 'law' that doesn't even
exist except in their imaginations.

So, as I observed, the law is whatever the courts say it is per your own
claims.
Scout
2017-01-30 20:51:08 UTC
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On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 15:32:33 -0500, "Scout"
On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 08:56:53 -0500, "Scout"
On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 17:45:05 -0500, "Scout"
On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 14:33:30 -0500, #BeamMeUpScotty
in
If the courts so ruled why would I not be a slave?
Because the constitution is the highest law NOT the courts.
*Ding* *Ding* *Ding*
Indeed, I will note that the Courts were specifically denied any
power
over the Constitution, and further are as bound by it's conditions
as
any other part of the federal government. Though they might try to
deny
it.
NOT quite, the courts have the power to declare jurisdiction, so the
Supreme court can declare a law to not be within the U.S.
constitution's
jurisdiction,
Every law in the US ultimately rests upon the Constitution.
OK....please cite the Constitutional provision that allows the federal
government to set EPA mandates.
Oh, let me guess, there is no such provision, you claim it because the
courts do?
I am not an attorney nor am I an expert on law.
And yet you seem MORE than opinionated on the law.
I know enough to know my opinions
Sorry, but by your own statements your opinion is meaningless since you're
not a court of law.
My opinion about any particular law is meaningless, that is correct.
If you know nothing about any particular law, then you don't know the law at
all.

After all, the sum of the whole is made up of it's parts. If you know
nothing about any particular, then by direct extension you know nothing
about the sum.

So shut up.

Strange how you keep wanting to talk about the law, you claim to know
nothing about.
Scout
2017-01-30 20:54:42 UTC
Permalink
On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 15:31:36 -0500, "Scout"
On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 08:58:24 -0500, "Scout"
On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 03:13:42 -0700, Just Wondering
Our legal system is based on the Constitution, and that is
the only basis for any laws in the US.
We have a HUGE administrative law system. There's nothing
in the Constitution that empowers the federal government to
establish an administrative agency, especially an agency that's
under the control of the executive branch but is given power to
enact regulations with the force of law. That's a delegation of
legislative power to the executive branch, a violation of the
separation of powers that is blatantly unconstitutional.
There have been court challenges to every one of these, and the
courts
have said they are - wait for it - Constitutional.
Which merely goes to show that the opinions of the court need no basis
in
law. They simply have to assert it's there and *poof* it now case law.
Otherwise known as the made up invention from the opinion of the court
on
what the law is.
The court is charged with basing opinions on the law.
According to you the law is whatever the courts say it is.
What it means is whatever the court says it means but that
interpretation is supposed to be based upon prior existing law.
You acknowledge there is no enforcement mechanism for that. It's nothing
but wishful thinking on your part.
Does seem to be the a major fallacy in his reasoning, if you can call it
reasoning.
Thus you're telling us that the court is charged with basing their
opinion
on what their opinion of the law is.
Thai is why it is called a legal opinion.
That's not what it's called. It's called a *holding*, and it has the
force of law, even though it sometimes is lawless.
Talk about circular reasoning.
Meanwhile, please tell me when you became a court of law, such that you
can
have an opinion on the law.
I have no such opinion. I am simply relating how courts work.
No, you're not, because you don't know. You're not a lawyer and you're
not a legal scholar. You're not even a political scholar. You're an
opinionated mouth whose opinions are based on nothing but your beliefs.
*ding* *Ding* *DING*

Congratulations, we have a winner. Pick any item from the top shelf.

Yep, he wants to express his opinions, even though he admits he knows
nothing about the law. Yet complains when others who do know the law want to
share their opinions and correct his errors on the law.

Seems he's allowed to talk and the courts can talk, but everyone else should
shut up.
Scout
2017-01-30 20:57:41 UTC
Permalink
On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 15:31:36 -0500, "Scout"
On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 08:58:24 -0500, "Scout"
On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 03:13:42 -0700, Just Wondering
Our legal system is based on the Constitution, and that is
the only basis for any laws in the US.
We have a HUGE administrative law system. There's nothing
in the Constitution that empowers the federal government to
establish an administrative agency, especially an agency that's
under the control of the executive branch but is given power to
enact regulations with the force of law. That's a delegation of
legislative power to the executive branch, a violation of the
separation of powers that is blatantly unconstitutional.
There have been court challenges to every one of these, and the
courts
have said they are - wait for it - Constitutional.
Which merely goes to show that the opinions of the court need no
basis in
law. They simply have to assert it's there and *poof* it now case
law.
Otherwise known as the made up invention from the opinion of the
court on
what the law is.
The court is charged with basing opinions on the law.
According to you the law is whatever the courts say it is.
What it means is whatever the court says it means but that
interpretation is supposed to be based upon prior existing law.
You acknowledge there is no enforcement mechanism for that. It's
nothing but wishful thinking on your part.
Yet the system works, and has worked well .
Really?

We have a Constitution that is the Supreme Law of the Land....and courts
that utterly ignore it, rewrite it, and reinvent it, and you claim that's is
working well?

It would be like a baseball team rushing for a first down. It's not in the
rules, it's not even in the game.....but hey as long as the team says they
can do it.......seems to be 'working well'.
Attila
2017-01-30 21:42:47 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 15:57:41 -0500, "Scout"
Post by Scout
On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 15:31:36 -0500, "Scout"
On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 08:58:24 -0500, "Scout"
On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 03:13:42 -0700, Just Wondering
Our legal system is based on the Constitution, and that is
the only basis for any laws in the US.
We have a HUGE administrative law system. There's nothing
in the Constitution that empowers the federal government to
establish an administrative agency, especially an agency that's
under the control of the executive branch but is given power to
enact regulations with the force of law. That's a delegation of
legislative power to the executive branch, a violation of the
separation of powers that is blatantly unconstitutional.
There have been court challenges to every one of these, and the
courts
have said they are - wait for it - Constitutional.
Which merely goes to show that the opinions of the court need no
basis in
law. They simply have to assert it's there and *poof* it now case
law.
Otherwise known as the made up invention from the opinion of the
court on
what the law is.
The court is charged with basing opinions on the law.
According to you the law is whatever the courts say it is.
What it means is whatever the court says it means but that
interpretation is supposed to be based upon prior existing law.
You acknowledge there is no enforcement mechanism for that. It's
nothing but wishful thinking on your part.
Yet the system works, and has worked well .
Really?
Yes, really.
Post by Scout
We have a Constitution that is the Supreme Law of the Land....and courts
that utterly ignore it, rewrite it, and reinvent it, and you claim that's is
working well?
Just exactly what are your qualifications to judge whether or not a
case ignores, rewrites, or reinvents the Constitution?
Post by Scout
It would be like a baseball team rushing for a first down. It's not in the
rules, it's not even in the game.....but hey as long as the team says they
can do it.......seems to be 'working well'.
Except this isn't sports when next week or next year few people care
who did what in some game.

A legal ruling in all of it's detail will be available for cite a
hundred years from now.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

I am not conservitive so much as a rabid anti-liberal.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

Scout
2017-01-30 21:00:15 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jeanne Douglas
On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 15:31:36 -0500, "Scout"
On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 08:58:24 -0500, "Scout"
On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 03:13:42 -0700, Just Wondering
Our legal system is based on the Constitution, and that is
the only basis for any laws in the US.
We have a HUGE administrative law system. There's nothing
in the Constitution that empowers the federal government to
establish an administrative agency, especially an agency that's
under the control of the executive branch but is given power to
enact regulations with the force of law. That's a delegation of
legislative power to the executive branch, a violation of the
separation of powers that is blatantly unconstitutional.
There have been court challenges to every one of these, and the
courts
have said they are - wait for it - Constitutional.
Which merely goes to show that the opinions of the court need no basis
in
law. They simply have to assert it's there and *poof* it now case law.
Otherwise known as the made up invention from the opinion of the court
on
what the law is.
The court is charged with basing opinions on the law.
According to you the law is whatever the courts say it is.
What it means is whatever the court says it means but that
interpretation is supposed to be based upon prior existing law.
You acknowledge there is no enforcement mechanism for that. It's
nothing but wishful thinking on your part.
Yet the system works, and has worked well .
You can't say, because you have no way of knowing if courts are basing
their decision on existing law or not. You *couldn't* possibly know
that. You're presuming it to be the case, but that's presumptuous.
Thus you're telling us that the court is charged with basing their
opinion
on what their opinion of the law is.
Thai is why it is called a legal opinion.
That's not what it's called. It's called a *holding*, and it has the
force of law, even though it sometimes is lawless.
I could have the term wrong - as I have frequently said I am not an
expert.
And as you routinely reveal.
Talk about circular reasoning.
Meanwhile, please tell me when you became a court of law, such that you
can
have an opinion on the law.
I have no such opinion. I am simply relating how courts work.
No, you're not, because you don't know. You're not a lawyer and you're
not a legal scholar. You're not even a political scholar. You're an
opinionated mouth whose opinions are based on nothing but your beliefs.
Oh? Just where am I wrong? What are your qualifications to make this
judgment?
You're wrong when you presume that courts are basing their decisions on
prior law. As I have elaborated, you have no possible way of knowing that.
Other than their citing that prior law in their decisions, of course.
Really? Tell me, how often does the court cite prior law that always says
what they claim it does, and how often do they cite statutes claiming they
say this or that, or even the opinions of other courts claiming the law is
this or that?

I've read a large number of court cases, and almost ALL invoke the opinions
of other courts, which often have NOTHING to do with what exists within
statutory law.
Attila
2017-01-30 21:37:38 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 16:00:15 -0500, "Scout"
Post by Scout
Post by Jeanne Douglas
Other than their citing that prior law in their decisions, of course.
Really? Tell me, how often does the court cite prior law that always says
what they claim it does, and how often do they cite statutes claiming they
say this or that, or even the opinions of other courts claiming the law is
this or that?
I've read a large number of court cases, and almost ALL invoke the opinions
of other courts, which often have NOTHING to do with what exists within
statutory law.
An excellent example of how an untrained reader is incapable of
understanding the legal basis for a ruling as well as the value of
such an opinion.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

I am not conservitive so much as a rabid anti-liberal.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.
Attila
2017-01-30 21:31:55 UTC
Permalink
On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 15:31:36 -0500, "Scout"
On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 08:58:24 -0500, "Scout"
On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 03:13:42 -0700, Just Wondering
Our legal system is based on the Constitution, and that is
the only basis for any laws in the US.
We have a HUGE administrative law system. There's nothing
in the Constitution that empowers the federal government to
establish an administrative agency, especially an agency that's
under the control of the executive branch but is given power to
enact regulations with the force of law. That's a delegation of
legislative power to the executive branch, a violation of the
separation of powers that is blatantly unconstitutional.
There have been court challenges to every one of these, and the courts
have said they are - wait for it - Constitutional.
Which merely goes to show that the opinions of the court need no basis in
law. They simply have to assert it's there and *poof* it now case law.
Otherwise known as the made up invention from the opinion of the court on
what the law is.
The court is charged with basing opinions on the law.
According to you the law is whatever the courts say it is.
What it means is whatever the court says it means but that
interpretation is supposed to be based upon prior existing law.
You acknowledge there is no enforcement mechanism for that. It's
nothing but wishful thinking on your part.
Yet the system works, and has worked well .
You can't say, because you have no way of knowing if courts are basing
their decision on existing law or not. You *couldn't* possibly know
that. You're presuming it to be the case, but that's presumptuous.
True, but today there are so many trained people watching the courts,
especially in major cases, ready, willing, and able to jump on any
case that strays from what they see as the straight and narrow that
someone would throw up a flag. Or file a suit, as they deem proper.
Thus you're telling us that the court is charged with basing their opinion
on what their opinion of the law is.
Thai is why it is called a legal opinion.
That's not what it's called. It's called a *holding*, and it has the
force of law, even though it sometimes is lawless.
I could have the term wrong - as I have frequently said I am not an
expert.
And as you routinely reveal.
So what? Does that invalidate any thing I have said? Which is
basically that the opinions of untrained individuals do not matter -
only court decisions are enforceable.

I take it you somehow disagree?
Talk about circular reasoning.
Meanwhile, please tell me when you became a court of law, such that you can
have an opinion on the law.
I have no such opinion. I am simply relating how courts work.
No, you're not, because you don't know. You're not a lawyer and you're
not a legal scholar. You're not even a political scholar. You're an
opinionated mouth whose opinions are based on nothing but your beliefs.
Oh? Just where am I wrong? What are your qualifications to make this
judgment?
You're wrong when you presume that courts are basing their decisions on
prior law. As I have elaborated, you have no possible way of knowing that.
But those who would know are watching every important case. Plus ever
court ruling must cite the basis for that ruling. Anyone who
disagrees is free to file a lawsuit.

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Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

I am not conservitive so much as a rabid anti-liberal.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.
Scout
2017-01-30 21:35:36 UTC
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The two, taken together. For example, is it constitutional for the
government to have a child tax credit or a progressive income tax?
That
would seem to discriminate against people without children and the
rich
respectively.
Not all forms of discrimination are prohibitted.
Right, Scout? Doesn't that make "equal protection" not so clear?
Not in the least. Just because some people, including those within the
government, have issues applying the concept doesn't mean it isn't clear
on it's intent.
The child tax credit is unconstitutional? Amazing!
What's so amazing? Do you think a child should be taxed?
Scout
2017-01-30 21:37:11 UTC
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On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 15:43:40 -0500, "Scout"
On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 09:07:39 -0500, "Scout"
On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 16:51:58 -0500, "Scout"
On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 11:20:09 -0500, "Scout"
On Fri, 27 Jan 2017 09:26:00 -0500, #BeamMeUpScotty
If the courts so ruled why would I not be a slave?
Because the constitution is the highest law NOT the courts.
Absolutely true, but suppose an Amendment was ratified that
expressly
canceled the anti-slavery provisions of the other Amendments and
reinstated slavery? And the courts, based upon that Amendment,
ruled
I was a slave?
Then you would be a slave.
Correct.
See? They don't need a law to allow them to make you a slave. They
just
have
to say the law allows them to do it.
If they hold that a law allows me to be made a slave then the result
is that there is in fact a law that allows this.
No, the only 'law' needed would be the whim of the court to assert there
is.
No, any court findings must be based upon existing law
And yet we regularly see court findings that aren't based on existing law,
and indeed can't even be found within the law.
If you read the opinion you will see they are all based upon prior
existing law or the Constitution.
Ok, show me.

Show me that every ruling ever made by every US court was based only upon
prior existing statutory law or the Constitution.

------> Insert your proof here.
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