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Christianity: imprisoned by fear
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2020-09-14 10:28:29 UTC
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and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
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There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
A Jesus is as useful as a Zeus.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is _THE_ foundation of Christianity.
sycophant - an ass kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.
Michael Christ
2020-09-14 10:59:11 UTC
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and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
Shut up you monotone ignorant wanker.

You...did...not...make...yourself. It is impossible, Zombie!!!

For fuck's sake, wake up!!




Michael Christ
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Rom 5:8  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory".

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything".

"Sin is not what you do, it is what you are".

"What makes the bible the truth?" "The resonance of God".

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination". What do you
think sin is? Just a word??
z***@windstream.net
2020-09-14 11:22:42 UTC
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 20:59:11 +1000, Michael Christ
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and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
Shut up you monotone ignorant wanker.
You...did...not...make...yourself. It is impossible, Zombie!!!
For fuck's sake, wake up!!
Not good language for a professed Christian.

James
www.jw.org
The Bible is truths
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Michael Christ
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2020-09-14 16:09:59 UTC
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and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
Shut up you monotone ignorant wanker.
You...did...not...make...yourself. It is impossible, Zombie!!!
For fuck's sake, wake up!!
Not good language for a professed Christian.
That language fits with Christianity's 2000 year history of
intolerance, hate, and murder inspired by its Bible god/God's
example and its god/God's commands.
--
There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
A Jesus is as useful as a Zeus.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is _THE_ foundation of Christianity.
sycophant - an ass kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.
Bob
2020-09-14 16:12:58 UTC
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On 9/14/2020 12:09 PM, ----------- A t h e i s t
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That language fits with Christianity's 2000 year history of
intolerance, hate, and murder inspired by its Bible god/God's
example and its god/God's commands.
Don't you wish you could prove all that was true?

Just think how smart you would look if you could.

But, too bad. You can't. You know it's a lie.

You know you're a liar.

We know you're a liar, too.

<smirk>

.
He Kicked Their Jewish Butts Out Of The Land
2020-09-15 13:01:20 UTC
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You think Christianity had to tolerate the cruelty, depravity, immorality of the pagan world?


The African-African
Kevrob
2020-09-16 01:26:49 UTC
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You think Christianity had to tolerate the cruelty, depravity,
immorality of the pagan world?
It could disapprove of any of that it confronted.
Persecuting pagans who who didn't commit crimes
against others was also immoral.

Cody claims to have purchased and read some of
a book I mentioned on the subject.

[quote]
Post by He Kicked Their Jewish Butts Out Of The Land
THE DARKENING AGE
The Christian Destruction of the Classical World
By Catherine Nixey
Illustrated. 315 pp.
Houghton Mifflin Harcourt.
I bought me a copy from a local Barnes Noble and I have been reading it until I get tired of her encomium for the temple of Serapis in Alexandria. Likely to pick up where I left off soon.
Please don't let her fool the simpleton in you.
Post by He Kicked Their Jewish Butts Out Of The Land
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/08/books/review/catherine-nixey-darkening-age.html
How Christians Destroyed the Ancient World
FYI.
Kevin R
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http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3Cf5886488-27ec-446f-b25b-18c1ccd43016%40googlegroups.com%3E


https://groups.google.com/forum/?oldui=1#!original/alt.atheism/LzchSjdJyC0/4VirY9CHBQAJ

Ever finish that, Cody?
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z***@windstream.net
2020-09-15 13:14:00 UTC
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 20:59:11 +1000, Michael Christ
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and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
Shut up you monotone ignorant wanker.
You...did...not...make...yourself. It is impossible, Zombie!!!
For fuck's sake, wake up!!
Not good language for a professed Christian.
That language fits with Christianity's 2000 year history of
intolerance, hate, and murder inspired by its Bible god/God's
example and its god/God's commands.
You are confusing God's right to judge the wicked, with murder. Child
sacrifice was practiced by some of those nations in the OT.
You are also confusing false Christianity with true Christianity.

How many times have you read the F word by JW's?
How many times have you read the F word by professed Christians?

There is a true Christianity out there. Search for it as if it were
gold.

James
www.jw.org
The Bible is truths
Lucifer
2020-09-15 13:41:41 UTC
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 09:09:59 -0700, ----------- A t h e i s t
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 20:59:11 +1000, Michael Christ
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Post by ----------- A t h e i s t ------------
and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
Shut up you monotone ignorant wanker.
You...did...not...make...yourself. It is impossible, Zombie!!!
For fuck's sake, wake up!!
Not good language for a professed Christian.
That language fits with Christianity's 2000 year history of
intolerance, hate, and murder inspired by its Bible god/God's
example and its god/God's commands.
You are confusing God's right to judge the wicked, with murder.
God has no right to judge his creation.
Post by z***@windstream.net
Child sacrifice was practiced by some of those nations in the OT.
God was created in man's image.
Post by z***@windstream.net
You are also confusing false Christianity with true Christianity.
All religion is false.
Post by z***@windstream.net
How many times have you read the F word by JW's?
How many times have you read the F word by professed Christians?
There is a true Christianity out there. Search for it as if it were
gold.
Search and destroy.
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James
z***@windstream.net
2020-09-16 19:50:05 UTC
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 09:09:59 -0700, ----------- A t h e i s t
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 20:59:11 +1000, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Post by ----------- A t h e i s t ------------
and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
Shut up you monotone ignorant wanker.
You...did...not...make...yourself. It is impossible, Zombie!!!
For fuck's sake, wake up!!
Not good language for a professed Christian.
That language fits with Christianity's 2000 year history of
intolerance, hate, and murder inspired by its Bible god/God's
example and its god/God's commands.
You are confusing God's right to judge the wicked, with murder.
God has no right to judge his creation.
As Creator, He sure does.
Post by Lucifer
Post by z***@windstream.net
Child sacrifice was practiced by some of those nations in the OT.
God was created in man's image.
Man was created in God's image.
Post by Lucifer
Post by z***@windstream.net
You are also confusing false Christianity with true Christianity.
All religion is false.
99.9% of it is. Your looking at the ONLY true one. I know, they all
say that. The Bible says you will know them by their fruits. (deeds)
Post by Lucifer
Post by z***@windstream.net
How many times have you read the F word by JW's?
How many times have you read the F word by professed Christians?
There is a true Christianity out there. Search for it as if it were
gold.
Search and destroy.
Destroy gold? That's up to you.

James
www.jw.org
The Bible is truths
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James
Lucifer
2020-09-17 10:39:45 UTC
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On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 23:41:41 +1000, Lucifer
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 09:09:59 -0700, ----------- A t h e i s t
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 20:59:11 +1000, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Post by ----------- A t h e i s t ------------
and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
Shut up you monotone ignorant wanker.
You...did...not...make...yourself. It is impossible, Zombie!!!
For fuck's sake, wake up!!
Not good language for a professed Christian.
That language fits with Christianity's 2000 year history of
intolerance, hate, and murder inspired by its Bible god/God's
example and its god/God's commands.
You are confusing God's right to judge the wicked, with murder.
God has no right to judge his creation.
As Creator, He sure does.
As creator, He can only judge how well He created.
Post by z***@windstream.net
Post by Lucifer
Post by z***@windstream.net
Child sacrifice was practiced by some of those nations in the OT.
God was created in man's image.
Man was created in God's image.
God has all man's character flaws.
Post by z***@windstream.net
Post by Lucifer
Post by z***@windstream.net
You are also confusing false Christianity with true Christianity.
All religion is false.
99.9% of it is. Your looking at the ONLY true one. I know, they all
say that. The Bible says you will know them by their fruits. (deeds)
The bible is false.
Post by z***@windstream.net
Post by Lucifer
Post by z***@windstream.net
How many times have you read the F word by JW's?
How many times have you read the F word by professed Christians?
There is a true Christianity out there. Search for it as if it were
gold.
Search and destroy.
Destroy gold? That's up to you.
James
z***@windstream.net
2020-09-18 11:44:44 UTC
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On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 23:41:41 +1000, Lucifer
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 09:09:59 -0700, ----------- A t h e i s t
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 20:59:11 +1000, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
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and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
Shut up you monotone ignorant wanker.
You...did...not...make...yourself. It is impossible, Zombie!!!
For fuck's sake, wake up!!
Not good language for a professed Christian.
That language fits with Christianity's 2000 year history of
intolerance, hate, and murder inspired by its Bible god/God's
example and its god/God's commands.
You are confusing God's right to judge the wicked, with murder.
God has no right to judge his creation.
As Creator, He sure does.
As creator, He can only judge how well He created.
All his creations are perfect. After Adam and Eve sinned, they became
imperfect. Thus their offspring were imperfect, and born with flaws.

God created just fine.

If you made a mold of a statue, and someone came along and distorted
that mold, would not all copies made be distorted? A similar thing
happened in God's case.
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Post by z***@windstream.net
Child sacrifice was practiced by some of those nations in the OT.
God was created in man's image.
Man was created in God's image.
God has all man's character flaws.
See above why humans have flaws.
Post by Lucifer
Post by z***@windstream.net
Post by Lucifer
Post by z***@windstream.net
You are also confusing false Christianity with true Christianity.
All religion is false.
99.9% of it is. Your looking at the ONLY true one. I know, they all
say that. The Bible says you will know them by their fruits. (deeds)
The bible is false.
Everyone has an opinion of the Bible. When one researches it and
gathers evidence, does one get to believe the Bible as being a book of
truths.
Post by Lucifer
Post by z***@windstream.net
Post by Lucifer
Post by z***@windstream.net
How many times have you read the F word by JW's?
How many times have you read the F word by professed Christians?
There is a true Christianity out there. Search for it as if it were
gold.
Search and destroy.
Destroy gold? That's up to you.
James
James
www.jw.org
The Bible is truths
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2020-09-16 11:44:01 UTC
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 20:59:11 +1000, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
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and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
Shut up you monotone ignorant wanker.
You...did...not...make...yourself. It is impossible, Zombie!!!
For fuck's sake, wake up!!
Not good language for a professed Christian.
That language fits with Christianity's 2000 year history of
intolerance, hate, and murder inspired by its Bible god/God's
example and its god/God's commands.
You are confusing God's right to judge the wicked, with murder.
No, I stated that 2000 years of Christian's intolerance, hate, and
murder was inspired by their [imaginary] Bible god/God's example
behavior of intolerance, hate, and mass murder, and they were/are
inspired by specific Bible god-commands to murder (for trivial and
unjustifiable reasons); your imaginary god/God itself is the "wicked"
one inspiring its believers to be "wicked" too.
--
There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
A Jesus is as useful as a Zeus.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is _THE_ foundation of Christianity.
sycophant - an ass kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.
Yap Honghor
2020-09-17 01:57:50 UTC
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 20:59:11 +1000, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
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and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
Shut up you monotone ignorant wanker.
You...did...not...make...yourself. It is impossible, Zombie!!!
For fuck's sake, wake up!!
Not good language for a professed Christian.
That language fits with Christianity's 2000 year history of
intolerance, hate, and murder inspired by its Bible god/God's
example and its god/God's commands.
You are confusing God's right to judge the wicked, with murder.
No, I stated that 2000 years of Christian's intolerance, hate, and
murder was inspired by their [imaginary] Bible god/God's example
behavior of intolerance, hate, and mass murder, and they were/are
inspired by specific Bible god-commands to murder (for trivial and
unjustifiable reasons); your imaginary god/God itself is the "wicked"
one inspiring its believers to be "wicked" too.
There were so many examples of evil misdeed and mass murder in the con bible!
Believers are blind or afraid to face with the truth!!!
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There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
A Jesus is as useful as a Zeus.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is _THE_ foundation of Christianity.
sycophant - an ass kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.
aaa
2020-09-17 12:33:04 UTC
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 20:59:11 +1000, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
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and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
Shut up you monotone ignorant wanker.
You...did...not...make...yourself.  It is impossible, Zombie!!!
For fuck's sake, wake up!!
Not good language for a professed Christian.
That language fits with Christianity's 2000 year history of
intolerance, hate, and murder inspired by its Bible god/God's
example and its god/God's commands.
You are confusing God's right to judge the wicked, with murder.
No, I stated that 2000 years of Christian's intolerance, hate, and
murder was inspired by their [imaginary] Bible god/God's example
behavior of intolerance, hate, and mass murder, and they were/are
inspired by specific Bible god-commands to murder (for trivial and
unjustifiable reasons); your imaginary god/God itself is the "wicked"
one inspiring its believers to be "wicked" too.
That's just a misunderstanding of the Bible. You confuse the tragedy of
human sin as an act of God.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
Christ!
Mitchell Holman
2020-09-17 18:17:11 UTC
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 20:59:11 +1000, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
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and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
Shut up you monotone ignorant wanker.
You...did...not...make...yourself.  It is impossible, Zombie!!!
For fuck's sake, wake up!!
Not good language for a professed Christian.
That language fits with Christianity's 2000 year history of
intolerance, hate, and murder inspired by its Bible god/God's
example and its god/God's commands.
You are confusing God's right to judge the wicked, with murder.
No, I stated that 2000 years of Christian's intolerance, hate, and
murder was inspired by their [imaginary] Bible god/God's example
behavior of intolerance, hate, and mass murder, and they were/are
inspired by specific Bible god-commands to murder (for trivial and
unjustifiable reasons); your imaginary god/God itself is the "wicked"
one inspiring its believers to be "wicked" too.
That's just a misunderstanding of the Bible. You confuse the tragedy of
human sin as an act of God.
How could "human sin" exist unless
god WANTED it to exist?




"Everything that happens in this universe
is under God's control."
"aaa", Feb 5 2018
http://tinyurl.com/yauc3fhw
aaa
2020-09-17 18:50:57 UTC
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 20:59:11 +1000, Michael Christ
On 14/09/2020 8:28 pm, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------
Post by ----------- A t h e i s t ------------
and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
Shut up you monotone ignorant wanker.
You...did...not...make...yourself.  It is impossible, Zombie!!!
For fuck's sake, wake up!!
Not good language for a professed Christian.
That language fits with Christianity's 2000 year history of
intolerance, hate, and murder inspired by its Bible god/God's
example and its god/God's commands.
You are confusing God's right to judge the wicked, with murder.
No, I stated that 2000 years of Christian's intolerance, hate, and
murder was inspired by their [imaginary] Bible god/God's example
behavior of intolerance, hate, and mass murder, and they were/are
inspired by specific Bible god-commands to murder (for trivial and
unjustifiable reasons); your imaginary god/God itself is the "wicked"
one inspiring its believers to be "wicked" too.
That's just a misunderstanding of the Bible. You confuse the tragedy of
human sin as an act of God.
How could "human sin" exist unless
god WANTED it to exist?
That is why the human sin is entirely a human mistake and stupidity to
believe something that is never real against God's will.
Post by Mitchell Holman
"Everything that happens in this universe
is under God's control."
"aaa", Feb 5 2018
http://tinyurl.com/yauc3fhw
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God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
Christ!
Pat Barker+
2020-09-17 20:36:09 UTC
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 20:59:11 +1000, Michael Christ
On 14/09/2020 8:28 pm, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------
Post by ----------- A t h e i s t ------------
and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
Shut up you monotone ignorant wanker.
You...did...not...make...yourself.  It is impossible, Zombie!!!
For fuck's sake, wake up!!
Not good language for a professed Christian.
That language fits with Christianity's 2000 year history of
intolerance, hate, and murder inspired by its Bible god/God's
example and its god/God's commands.
You are confusing God's right to judge the wicked, with murder.
No, I stated that 2000 years of Christian's intolerance, hate, and
murder was inspired by their [imaginary] Bible god/God's example
behavior of intolerance, hate, and mass murder, and they were/are
inspired by specific Bible god-commands to murder (for trivial and
unjustifiable reasons); your imaginary god/God itself is the "wicked"
one inspiring its believers to be "wicked" too.
That's just a misunderstanding of the Bible. You confuse the tragedy of
human sin as an act of God.
How could "human sin" exist unless
god WANTED it to exist?
It goes with "Free Will."
Lucifer
2020-09-17 22:20:17 UTC
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On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 13:17:11 -0500, Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 09:09:59 -0700, ----------- A t h e i s t
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Post by z***@windstream.net
On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 20:59:11 +1000, Michael Christ
On 14/09/2020 8:28 pm, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------
Post by ----------- A t h e i s t ------------
and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
Shut up you monotone ignorant wanker.
You...did...not...make...yourself.  It is impossible, Zombie!!!
For fuck's sake, wake up!!
Not good language for a professed Christian.
That language fits with Christianity's 2000 year history of
intolerance, hate, and murder inspired by its Bible god/God's
example and its god/God's commands.
You are confusing God's right to judge the wicked, with murder.
No, I stated that 2000 years of Christian's intolerance, hate, and
murder was inspired by their [imaginary] Bible god/God's example
behavior of intolerance, hate, and mass murder, and they were/are
inspired by specific Bible god-commands to murder (for trivial and
unjustifiable reasons); your imaginary god/God itself is the "wicked"
one inspiring its believers to be "wicked" too.
That's just a misunderstanding of the Bible. You confuse the tragedy of
human sin as an act of God.
How could "human sin" exist unless
god WANTED it to exist?
It goes with "Free Will."
It's a fair question. You should try to answer it.
Pat Barker+
2020-09-18 12:54:16 UTC
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On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 08:20:17 +1000, Lucifer
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On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 16:36:09 -0400, Pat Barker+
Post by Pat Barker+
On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 13:17:11 -0500, Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 20:59:11 +1000, Michael Christ
On 14/09/2020 8:28 pm, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------
Post by ----------- A t h e i s t ------------
and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
Shut up you monotone ignorant wanker.
You...did...not...make...yourself.  It is impossible, Zombie!!!
For fuck's sake, wake up!!
Not good language for a professed Christian.
That language fits with Christianity's 2000 year history of
intolerance, hate, and murder inspired by its Bible god/God's
example and its god/God's commands.
You are confusing God's right to judge the wicked, with murder.
No, I stated that 2000 years of Christian's intolerance, hate, and
murder was inspired by their [imaginary] Bible god/God's example
behavior of intolerance, hate, and mass murder, and they were/are
inspired by specific Bible god-commands to murder (for trivial and
unjustifiable reasons); your imaginary god/God itself is the "wicked"
one inspiring its believers to be "wicked" too.
That's just a misunderstanding of the Bible. You confuse the tragedy of
human sin as an act of God.
How could "human sin" exist unless
god WANTED it to exist?
It goes with "Free Will."
It's a fair question. You should try to answer it.
I did.
Before the fall of Adam, man was sinless and able not to sin. For God
“saw everything that he had made, and behold, it was very good”
(Genesis 1:31). But he was also able to sin. For God had said, “In the
day that you eat of it [the tree] you shall surely die” (Genesis
2:17).
Our will is free if our preferences and our choices are really our own
in such a way that we can justly be held responsible for whether they
are good or bad.
Mitchell Holman
2020-09-18 01:45:04 UTC
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and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
Shut up you monotone ignorant wanker.
You...did...not...make...yourself.  It is impossible,
Zombie!!! For fuck's sake, wake up!!
Not good language for a professed Christian.
That language fits with Christianity's 2000 year history of
intolerance, hate, and murder inspired by its Bible god/God's
example and its god/God's commands.
You are confusing God's right to judge the wicked, with murder.
No, I stated that 2000 years of Christian's intolerance, hate, and
murder was inspired by their [imaginary] Bible god/God's example
behavior of intolerance, hate, and mass murder, and they were/are
inspired by specific Bible god-commands to murder (for trivial and
unjustifiable reasons); your imaginary god/God itself is the
"wicked" one inspiring its believers to be "wicked" too.
That's just a misunderstanding of the Bible. You confuse the tragedy
of human sin as an act of God.
How could "human sin" exist unless
god WANTED it to exist?
It goes with "Free Will."
There is no "free will" in your religion.

"Obey god or burn in hell" is extortion,
not free will.
Pat Barker+
2020-09-18 12:54:55 UTC
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and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
Shut up you monotone ignorant wanker.
You...did...not...make...yourself.  It is impossible,
Zombie!!! For fuck's sake, wake up!!
Not good language for a professed Christian.
That language fits with Christianity's 2000 year history of
intolerance, hate, and murder inspired by its Bible god/God's
example and its god/God's commands.
You are confusing God's right to judge the wicked, with murder.
No, I stated that 2000 years of Christian's intolerance, hate, and
murder was inspired by their [imaginary] Bible god/God's example
behavior of intolerance, hate, and mass murder, and they were/are
inspired by specific Bible god-commands to murder (for trivial and
unjustifiable reasons); your imaginary god/God itself is the
"wicked" one inspiring its believers to be "wicked" too.
That's just a misunderstanding of the Bible. You confuse the tragedy
of human sin as an act of God.
How could "human sin" exist unless
god WANTED it to exist?
It goes with "Free Will."
There is no "free will" in your religion.
"Obey god or burn in hell" is extortion,
not free will.
You have used your free will to burn in hell.
Good for you.
Ted
2020-09-14 17:47:15 UTC
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and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
Shut up you monotone ignorant wanker.
You...did...not...make...yourself. It is impossible, Zombie!!!
For fuck's sake, wake up!!
Not good language for a professed Christian.
James
www.jw.org
The Bible is truths
Doesn't matter.
z***@windstream.net
2020-09-15 13:15:00 UTC
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and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
Shut up you monotone ignorant wanker.
You...did...not...make...yourself. It is impossible, Zombie!!!
For fuck's sake, wake up!!
Not good language for a professed Christian.
James
www.jw.org
The Bible is truths
Doesn't matter.
To God and Jesus it does.

James
www.jw.org
The Bible is truths
Ted
2020-09-15 15:01:30 UTC
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Post by ----------- A t h e i s t ------------
and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
Shut up you monotone ignorant wanker.
You...did...not...make...yourself. It is impossible, Zombie!!!
For fuck's sake, wake up!!
Not good language for a professed Christian.
James
www.jw.org
The Bible is truths
Doesn't matter.
To God and Jesus it does.
James
www.jw.org
The Bible is truths
Doubtful, even assuming they exist.
z***@windstream.net
2020-09-16 19:51:36 UTC
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Post by Ted
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and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
Shut up you monotone ignorant wanker.
You...did...not...make...yourself. It is impossible, Zombie!!!
For fuck's sake, wake up!!
Not good language for a professed Christian.
James
www.jw.org
The Bible is truths
Doesn't matter.
To God and Jesus it does.
James
www.jw.org
The Bible is truths
Doubtful, even assuming they exist.
You can assume it as a fact.

James
www.jw.org
The Bible is truths
Olrik
2020-09-16 03:51:50 UTC
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and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
Shut up you monotone ignorant wanker.
You...did...not...make...yourself. It is impossible, Zombie!!!
For fuck's sake, wake up!!
Not good language for a professed Christian.
James
www.jw.org
The Bible is truths
Doesn't matter.
To God and Jesus it does.
They're not the same thing? Religions with avatars can be so confusing!
Post by z***@windstream.net
James
www.jw.org
The Bible is truths
--
Olrik
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EAC Chief Food Inspector, Bacon Division
Michael Christ
2020-09-14 21:45:19 UTC
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and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
Shut up you monotone ignorant wanker.
You...did...not...make...yourself. It is impossible, Zombie!!!
For fuck's sake, wake up!!
Not good language for a professed Christian.
I am not here to please the world of religious sinners, Jimmy, and be
conformed to their ways.





Michael Christ
--
Rom 5:8  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory".

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything".

"Sin is not what you do, it is what you are".

"What makes the bible the truth?" "The resonance of God".

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination". What do you
think sin is? Just a word??
z***@windstream.net
2020-09-15 13:18:52 UTC
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Post by Michael Christ
Post by z***@windstream.net
On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 20:59:11 +1000, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
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and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
Shut up you monotone ignorant wanker.
You...did...not...make...yourself. It is impossible, Zombie!!!
For fuck's sake, wake up!!
Not good language for a professed Christian.
I am not here to please the world of religious sinners, Jimmy, and be
conformed to their ways.
You should please the God of the Bible:

-- Revised Standard
1 Corinthians 10:31 So, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do,
do all to the glory of God.

James
www.jw.org
The Bible is truths
Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ
Michael Christ
2020-09-15 18:20:25 UTC
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On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 07:45:19 +1000, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Post by z***@windstream.net
On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 20:59:11 +1000, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Post by ----------- A t h e i s t ------------
and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
Shut up you monotone ignorant wanker.
You...did...not...make...yourself. It is impossible, Zombie!!!
For fuck's sake, wake up!!
Not good language for a professed Christian.
I am not here to please the world of religious sinners, Jimmy, and be
conformed to their ways.
You can't please hypocrite sinners and God, Buddy!

You should learn that, no, you should know it.

A sinner preaching the bible...NOT...A...GOOD...LOOK.





Michael Christ
Post by z***@windstream.net
-- Revised Standard
1 Corinthians 10:31 So, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do,
do all to the glory of God.
James
www.jw.org
The Bible is truths
Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ
--
Rom 5:8  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory".

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything".

"Sin is not what you do, it is what you are".

"What makes the bible the truth?" "The resonance of God".

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination". What do you
think sin is? Just a word??
z***@windstream.net
2020-09-16 20:01:50 UTC
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Post by Michael Christ
Post by z***@windstream.net
On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 07:45:19 +1000, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Post by z***@windstream.net
On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 20:59:11 +1000, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
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and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
Shut up you monotone ignorant wanker.
You...did...not...make...yourself. It is impossible, Zombie!!!
For fuck's sake, wake up!!
Not good language for a professed Christian.
I am not here to please the world of religious sinners, Jimmy, and be
conformed to their ways.
You can't please hypocrite sinners and God, Buddy!
Your opinion is noted.
Post by Michael Christ
You should learn that, no, you should know it.
A sinner preaching the bible...NOT...A...GOOD...LOOK.
The Bible says WE ALL SIN. WE ARE BORN IN SIN.

James
www.jw.org
The Bible is truths
Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ
Post by z***@windstream.net
-- Revised Standard
1 Corinthians 10:31 So, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do,
do all to the glory of God.
James
www.jw.org
The Bible is truths
Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ
Michael Christ
2020-09-16 21:25:48 UTC
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On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 04:20:25 +1000, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Post by z***@windstream.net
On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 07:45:19 +1000, Michael Christ
Post by z***@windstream.net
On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 20:59:11 +1000, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Post by ----------- A t h e i s t ------------
and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
Shut up you monotone ignorant wanker.
You...did...not...make...yourself. It is impossible, Zombie!!!
For fuck's sake, wake up!!
Not good language for a professed Christian.
I am not here to please the world of religious sinners, Jimmy, and be
conformed to their ways.
You can't please hypocrite sinners and God, Buddy!
Your opinion is noted.
It is not my opinion, Buddy, it is the Lord's.

You can't serve two masters.
Post by z***@windstream.net
Post by Michael Christ
You should learn that, no, you should know it.
A sinner preaching the bible...NOT...A...GOOD...LOOK.
The Bible says WE ALL SIN. WE ARE BORN IN SIN.
There it is!!! The compromise, a sinner/a breaker of the rules of the
bible, preaching we should please the God of the bible! :-).

And just because you compromise, sinner, that does not mean God
compromises!!!

With God, all things are possible, nothing is possible with your sinner
accommodating religion ways.

You're a compromiser, a fake, a hypocrite. You go around telling people
not to sin but you sin. You all stink of self-righteousness, Holy JW
Sinner.






Michael Christ
--
Rom 5:8  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory".

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything".

"Sin is not what you do, it is what you are".

"What makes the bible the truth?" "The resonance of God".

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination". What do you
think sin is? Just a word??

"Compromise will condemn you."
Mitchell Holman
2020-09-17 01:56:10 UTC
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On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 04:20:25 +1000, Michael Christ
Post by z***@windstream.net
On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 07:45:19 +1000, Michael Christ
Post by z***@windstream.net
On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 20:59:11 +1000, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
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and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
Shut up you monotone ignorant wanker.
You...did...not...make...yourself. It is impossible, Zombie!!!
For fuck's sake, wake up!!
Not good language for a professed Christian.
I am not here to please the world of religious sinners, Jimmy, and be
conformed to their ways.
You can't please hypocrite sinners and God, Buddy!
Your opinion is noted.
It is not my opinion, Buddy, it is the Lord's.
You can't serve two masters.
What two masters?
z***@windstream.net
2020-09-18 12:38:10 UTC
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Post by Michael Christ
Post by z***@windstream.net
On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 04:20:25 +1000, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Post by z***@windstream.net
On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 07:45:19 +1000, Michael Christ
Post by z***@windstream.net
On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 20:59:11 +1000, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Post by ----------- A t h e i s t ------------
and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
Shut up you monotone ignorant wanker.
You...did...not...make...yourself. It is impossible, Zombie!!!
For fuck's sake, wake up!!
Not good language for a professed Christian.
I am not here to please the world of religious sinners, Jimmy, and be
conformed to their ways.
James will do, thank you.
Post by Michael Christ
Post by z***@windstream.net
You can't please hypocrite sinners and God, Buddy!
Your opinion is noted.
It is not my opinion, Buddy, it is the Lord's.
So you say.
Post by Michael Christ
You can't serve two masters.
Yes you can. God and Jesus.
Post by Michael Christ
Post by z***@windstream.net
Post by Michael Christ
You should learn that, no, you should know it.
A sinner preaching the bible...NOT...A...GOOD...LOOK.
The Bible says WE ALL SIN. WE ARE BORN IN SIN.
There it is!!! The compromise, a sinner/a breaker of the rules of the
bible, preaching we should please the God of the bible! :-).
All humans break the rules of the Bible. That is why Jesus ransom was
necessary.
Post by Michael Christ
And just because you compromise, sinner, that does not mean God
compromises!!!
What do I allegedly compromise?
Post by Michael Christ
With God, all things are possible, nothing is possible with your sinner
accommodating religion ways.
Lot's of things are possible when you follow the Bible. For example,
talking to someone at the door, getting a Bible study, and then
getting them baptized. It happens all the time. Notice why, at Mt 28:
19,20,

"19. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the
name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20. Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded
you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world.
Amen." (KJV)
Post by Michael Christ
You're a compromiser, a fake, a hypocrite. You go around telling people
not to sin but you sin. You all stink of self-righteousness, Holy JW
Sinner.
All men sin:

- Revised Standard
Romans 5:12 Therefore as sin came into the world through one man and
death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all men
sinned--

-- Revised Standard
1 John 1:10 If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his
word is not in us.

James
www.jw.org
The Bible is truths
Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ
Mitchell Holman
2020-09-17 01:55:29 UTC
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On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 04:20:25 +1000, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Post by z***@windstream.net
On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 07:45:19 +1000, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Post by z***@windstream.net
On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 20:59:11 +1000, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
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and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
Shut up you monotone ignorant wanker.
You...did...not...make...yourself. It is impossible, Zombie!!!
For fuck's sake, wake up!!
Not good language for a professed Christian.
I am not here to please the world of religious sinners, Jimmy, and be
conformed to their ways.
You can't please hypocrite sinners and God, Buddy!
Your opinion is noted.
Post by Michael Christ
You should learn that, no, you should know it.
A sinner preaching the bible...NOT...A...GOOD...LOOK.
The Bible says WE ALL SIN. WE ARE BORN IN SIN.
That makes it easier to justify god killing people.
z***@windstream.net
2020-09-18 13:01:07 UTC
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Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by z***@windstream.net
On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 04:20:25 +1000, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Post by z***@windstream.net
On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 07:45:19 +1000, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Post by z***@windstream.net
On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 20:59:11 +1000, Michael Christ
On 14/09/2020 8:28 pm, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------
Post by ----------- A t h e i s t ------------
and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
Shut up you monotone ignorant wanker.
You...did...not...make...yourself. It is impossible, Zombie!!!
For fuck's sake, wake up!!
Not good language for a professed Christian.
I am not here to please the world of religious sinners, Jimmy, and
be
Post by z***@windstream.net
Post by Michael Christ
Post by z***@windstream.net
Post by Michael Christ
conformed to their ways.
You can't please hypocrite sinners and God, Buddy!
Your opinion is noted.
Post by Michael Christ
You should learn that, no, you should know it.
A sinner preaching the bible...NOT...A...GOOD...LOOK.
The Bible says WE ALL SIN. WE ARE BORN IN SIN.
That makes it easier to justify god killing people.
Do not nations sometimes execute violent criminals? Are they more
righteous than God?

Yes, God has judged the super wicked and killed them. How wicked? Some
of those Canaanites were practicing child sacrifice. If it was up to
you, would you have let the nations continue to do so? Apparently so,
since you criticize God for stopping it.

Some even wonder why God waited so long to destroy them.

James
www.jw.org
The Bible is truths
Ted
2020-09-15 18:18:32 UTC
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 20:59:11 +1000, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Post by ----------- A t h e i s t ------------
and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
Shut up you monotone ignorant wanker.
You...did...not...make...yourself. It is impossible, Zombie!!!
For fuck's sake, wake up!!
Not good language for a professed Christian.
I am not here to please the world of religious sinners, Jimmy, and be
conformed to their ways.
Michael Christ
Exactly. I was surprised to hear that from a JW, as they're usually
the ones thumbing their noses at the World's rules.
Michael Christ
2020-09-15 21:36:56 UTC
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Post by Michael Christ
Post by z***@windstream.net
On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 20:59:11 +1000, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
On 14/09/2020 8:28 pm, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------
and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
Shut up you monotone ignorant wanker.
You...did...not...make...yourself.  It is impossible, Zombie!!!
For fuck's sake, wake up!!
Not good language for a professed Christian.
I am not here to please the world of religious sinners, Jimmy, and
be
Post by Michael Christ
conformed to their ways.
Michael Christ
Exactly. I was surprised to hear that from a JW, as they're usually the
ones thumbing their noses at the World's rules.
They are the world, tarred with the same brush...sinners. The whole
world has it own rules, Ted, including you.





Michael Christ
--
Rom 5:8  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory".

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything".

"Sin is not what you do, it is what you are".

"What makes the bible the truth?" "The resonance of God".

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination". What do you
think sin is? Just a word??
Ted
2020-09-16 05:03:47 UTC
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On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 07:45:19 +1000, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 20:59:11 +1000, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
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and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
Shut up you monotone ignorant wanker.
You...did...not...make...yourself.  It is impossible,
Zombie!!!
Post by Michael Christ
Post by z***@windstream.net
Post by Michael Christ
Post by z***@windstream.net
Post by Michael Christ
For fuck's sake, wake up!!
Not good language for a professed Christian.
I am not here to please the world of religious sinners, Jimmy, and
be
Post by Michael Christ
conformed to their ways.
Michael Christ
Exactly. I was surprised to hear that from a JW, as they're
usually the
Post by Michael Christ
Post by z***@windstream.net
ones thumbing their noses at the World's rules.
They are the world, tarred with the same brush...sinners. The
whole
Post by Michael Christ
world has it own rules, Ted, including you.
Michael Christ
I'm not one of its rules.
Michael Christ
2020-09-16 08:58:55 UTC
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and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
Shut up you monotone ignorant wanker.
You...did...not...make...yourself.  It is impossible,
Zombie!!!
Post by Michael Christ
Post by z***@windstream.net
Not good language for a professed Christian.
Post by Michael Christ
I am not here to please the world of religious sinners, Jimmy,
and
be
Post by Michael Christ
conformed to their ways.
Post by z***@windstream.net
Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ
Exactly. I was surprised to hear that from a JW, as they're
usually the
ones thumbing their noses at the World's rules.
They are the world, tarred with the same brush...sinners.  The
whole
world has it own rules, Ted, including you.
Michael Christ
I'm not one of its rules.
You have to follow what you were indoctrinated into.

What else do you know?




Michael Christ
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Rom 5:8  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory".

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything".

"Sin is not what you do, it is what you are".

"What makes the bible the truth?" "The resonance of God".

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination". What do you
think sin is? Just a word??
Ted
2020-09-16 20:40:06 UTC
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and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
Shut up you monotone ignorant wanker.
You...did...not...make...yourself.  It is impossible,
Zombie!!!
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Not good language for a professed Christian.
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I am not here to please the world of religious sinners, Jimmy,
and
be
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conformed to their ways.
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Michael Christ
Exactly. I was surprised to hear that from a JW, as
they're
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Post by Ted
usually the
ones thumbing their noses at the World's rules.
They are the world, tarred with the same brush...sinners.  The
whole
world has it own rules, Ted, including you.
Michael Christ
I'm not one of its rules.
You have to follow what you were indoctrinated into.
What else do you know?
Michael Christ
It's true that we've all been greatly influenced by our environments.
I like to think I'm less gullible than most others, but who knows
.... I might even be dumber than Duke ... nah, that's impossible.
Michael Christ
2020-09-16 21:41:06 UTC
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and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
Shut up you monotone ignorant wanker.
You...did...not...make...yourself.  It is impossible, >
Zombie!!!
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Post by Michael Christ
Post by z***@windstream.net
Not good language for a professed Christian.
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I am not here to please the world of religious sinners,
Jimmy,
and
Post by Michael Christ
be
Post by Michael Christ
conformed to their ways.
Post by z***@windstream.net
Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ
Exactly. I was surprised to hear that from a JW, as
they're
usually the
Post by Michael Christ
ones thumbing their noses at the World's rules.
Post by Michael Christ
They are the world, tarred with the same brush...sinners.  The
whole
Post by Michael Christ
world has it own rules, Ted, including you.
Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ
I'm not one of its rules.
You have to follow what you were indoctrinated into.
What else do you know?
Michael Christ
It's true that we've all been greatly influenced by our environments.
Well think about it, what other environment are you born into than the
one you are in.

So, it is very difficult to come to know God is an entirely different
environment. Narrow is the way, and strange, and peculiar, an alien,
and completely foreign to us.

What hope is there then? Well, hope is not hope without there being
hope. Where there is a will is a way, so they say.





Michael Christ


I
Post by Ted
like to think I'm less gullible than most others, but who knows .... I
might even be dumber than Duke ... nah, that's impossible.
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Rom 5:8  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory".

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything".

"Sin is not what you do, it is what you are".

"What makes the bible the truth?" "The resonance of God".

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination". What do you
think sin is? Just a word??

"Compromise will condemn you."
Yap Honghor
2020-09-16 01:01:48 UTC
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and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
Shut up you monotone ignorant wanker.
You...did...not...make...yourself. It is impossible, Zombie!!!
For fuck's sake, wake up!!
Not good language for a professed Christian.
MX is the best example to illustrate the stupidity of believers who have been conned, without a sense of awareness!!!!
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2020-09-14 12:38:22 UTC
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and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
Shut up you monotone ignorant wanker.
You...did...not...make...yourself. It is impossible, Zombie!!!
No one here has ever claimed that, dickhead. What I claim is that
there is no need for an impotent hidden god/God; we get along just
fine without it. Your God is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, and
Odin; but actually, the belief in your god is demonstrably harmful
to individuals and to society.
--
There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
A Jesus is as useful as a Zeus.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is _THE_ foundation of Christianity.
sycophant - an ass kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.
Ted
2020-09-14 17:48:55 UTC
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and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
Shut up you monotone ignorant wanker.
You...did...not...make...yourself. It is impossible, Zombie!!!
No one here has ever claimed that, dickhead. What I claim is that
there is no need for an impotent hidden god/God; we get along just
fine without it. Your God is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, and
Odin; but actually, the belief in your god is demonstrably harmful
to individuals and to society.
Something has to be true, why not God and the Bible?
Michael Christ
2020-09-14 23:08:34 UTC
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and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
Shut up you monotone ignorant wanker.
You...did...not...make...yourself.  It is impossible, Zombie!!!
No one here has ever claimed that, dickhead.
What's your alternative, Fruit Bowl?? :-).

Let me save you the time, you ain't got one and hot air doesn't cut it!






Michael Christ

PS
What I claim is that
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there is no need for an impotent hidden god/God; we get along just
fine without it.  Your God is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, and
Odin; but actually, the belief in your god is demonstrably harmful
to individuals and to society.
PS Shallow ignorant moron. The problem with man is the sin in all men.
Or are you really that stupid as to think that if you remove all
religion man would dance and pirouette with the daffodils and the
butterflies through the fields of life in peace and harmony?? Yeah, no
more nukes and murder and war! :-).

Grow up!
--
Rom 5:8  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory".

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything".

"Sin is not what you do, it is what you are".

"What makes the bible the truth?" "The resonance of God".

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination". What do you
think sin is? Just a word??
Yap Honghor
2020-09-16 01:07:27 UTC
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and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
Shut up you monotone ignorant wanker.
You...did...not...make...yourself. It is impossible, Zombie!!!
No one here has ever claimed that, dickhead. What I claim is that
there is no need for an impotent hidden god/God; we get along just
fine without it. Your God is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, and
Odin; but actually, the belief in your god is demonstrably harmful
to individuals and to society.
Yes, with resources being sucked into the vast religious organizations to feed its stupid and uneducated workers/preachers who are criminals abusers of children as well!
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There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
A Jesus is as useful as a Zeus.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is _THE_ foundation of Christianity.
sycophant - an ass kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.
Pat Barker+
2020-09-14 13:07:18 UTC
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and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
Shut up you monotone ignorant wanker.
<PLONK>
Enough of you, ass wipe!
Ted
2020-09-14 17:49:29 UTC
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and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
Shut up you monotone ignorant wanker.
<PLONK>
Enough of you, ass wipe!
LOL.
Mitchell Holman
2020-09-14 17:58:16 UTC
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and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
Shut up you monotone ignorant wanker.
<PLONK>
Enough of you, ass wipe!
Does your pedophile priest know you talk this way?
Michael Christ
2020-09-14 22:18:47 UTC
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and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
Shut up you monotone ignorant wanker.
<PLONK>
Enough of you, ass wipe!
Let's see how Barker judges Barker...
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Do you think Jesus would approve of your statement?
Michael Christ
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Rom 5:8  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory".

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything".

"Sin is not what you do, it is what you are".

"What makes the bible the truth?" "The resonance of God".

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination". What do you
think sin is? Just a word??
Kurt Nicklas
2020-09-17 13:51:09 UTC
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and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
Shut up you monotone ignorant wanker.
You...did...not...make...yourself. It is impossible, Zombie!!!
For fuck's sake, wake up!!
Michael, treat this clown as a troll. He's a brainless defender of
the Chinese Communist party but is as capable of rationality as an
egg roll.

He's laugh material only.
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Michael Christ
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Rom 5:8  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.
"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory".
"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything".
"Sin is not what you do, it is what you are".
"What makes the bible the truth?" "The resonance of God".
"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination". What do you
think sin is? Just a word??
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Michael, treat this clown as a troll.
I've badly humiliated you, TraumaBoi.

LOL.
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There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
A Jesus is as useful as a Zeus.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is _THE_ foundation of Christianity.
sycophant - an ass kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.
Yap Honghor
2020-09-18 01:13:02 UTC
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and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
Shut up you monotone ignorant wanker.
You...did...not...make...yourself. It is impossible, Zombie!!!
For fuck's sake, wake up!!
Michael, treat this clown as a troll. He's a brainless defender of
the Chinese Communist party but is as capable of rationality as an
egg roll.
While you defend lies, cheats, groping and religious scams...with you soon to be their frontline perpetrator?????
Those are the Western so called freedom and BLM protests are being ignored!!!!!!!
Post by Kurt Nicklas
He's laugh material only.
He laugh at your pixie's non-existence....LOL
z***@windstream.net
2020-09-14 11:21:01 UTC
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and Jesus is as real/imaginary as Zeus, Thor, Odin.
--
There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
A Jesus is as useful as a Zeus.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is _THE_ foundation of Christianity.
Would a loving father with a disobedient son, lay his hand on a
red-hot burner for punishment? Of course not, or he would be arrested.
Well, accusing God of burning alive wicked ones, is a terrible insult.
The Bible does not teach such a sadistic thing. God is love, not
torture.

James
www.jw.org
The Bible is truths
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sycophant - an ass kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.
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2020-09-14 12:06:54 UTC
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God
You have no evidence this god/God exists; it is same as gods Zeus and Thor.
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There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
A Jesus is as useful as a Zeus.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is _THE_ foundation of Christianity.
sycophant - an ass kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.
Bob
2020-09-14 12:24:49 UTC
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 God
You have no evidence this god/God exists.
You're talking to yourself, again.

We have more than just evidence. We have proof.

"The Spirit himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children
of God."
[Romans 8:16]

You're the one who doesn't have any evidence that God exists.

<smirk>
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2020-09-14 12:48:25 UTC
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We have more than just evidence. We have proof.
Hi Bob,
Jesus (or the "holy" spirit) talks to you in your head, right?
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There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
A Jesus is as useful as a Zeus.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is _THE_ foundation of Christianity.
sycophant - an ass kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.
Bob
2020-09-14 14:57:54 UTC
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We have more than just evidence. We have proof.
Jesus (or the Holy Spirit) talks to you in your head, right?
No. Like all non-elects you just don't get it.

With the proof, he also gives everything else I need to know.

That's everything that you'll never have.

See how that works?

You're welcome.

<smirk>

.
z***@windstream.net
2020-09-15 14:58:53 UTC
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God
You have no evidence this god/God exists; it is same as gods Zeus and Thor.
Use your reasoning power. First, evolution has many people blinded.
Evolution doesn't need a God. So if evolution is true, what came
first, the heart or the body? What came first, the veins and
arteries, or the body, or the heart?

I could almost understand one microscopic organism being created over
time by mindless random chance. BUT MILLIONS OF ORGANISMS, FROM
MICROSCOPIC THINGS TO WHALES? ALL FROM MINDLESS CHANCE?

I may not be a genius, but I am not stupid. USE YOUR BRAIN GIVEN TO
YOU.

James
www.jw.org
The Bible is truths
Pat Barker+
2020-09-15 15:24:37 UTC
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Use your reasoning power. First, evolution has many people blinded.
Evolution doesn't need a God. So if evolution is true, what came
first, the heart or the body? What came first, the veins and
arteries, or the body, or the heart?
Why not believe in both?
Why couldn't God have created the heavens and the earth, light and
darkness, and then started one celled creatures that evolved?
Try to remember that God is infinite. Forever and a day. And at some
time during the evolution of animals, why couldn't God have decided
that he wanted something a little smarter than a chimp? It seems He
already created angel, demons, heaven and hell. It was time to step
up the game. Man came next.
What about this?
Ted
2020-09-15 18:15:41 UTC
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Post by Pat Barker+
Post by z***@windstream.net
Use your reasoning power. First, evolution has many people blinded.
Evolution doesn't need a God. So if evolution is true, what came
first, the heart or the body? What came first, the veins and
arteries, or the body, or the heart?
Why not believe in both?
Why couldn't God have created the heavens and the earth, light and
darkness, and then started one celled creatures that evolved?
Try to remember that God is infinite. Forever and a day. And at some
time during the evolution of animals, why couldn't God have decided
that he wanted something a little smarter than a chimp? It seems He
already created angel, demons, heaven and hell. It was time to step
up the game. Man came next.
What about this?
Yep. The creationists think they can define how God created, it
borders on blasphemy.
John Locke
2020-09-15 18:31:27 UTC
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Post by Pat Barker+
Post by z***@windstream.net
Use your reasoning power. First, evolution has many people blinded.
Evolution doesn't need a God. So if evolution is true, what came
first, the heart or the body? What came first, the veins and
arteries, or the body, or the heart?
Why not believe in both?
Why couldn't God have created the heavens and the earth, light and
darkness, and then started one celled creatures that evolved?
Try to remember that God is infinite. Forever and a day. And at some
time during the evolution of animals, why couldn't God have decided
that he wanted something a little smarter than a chimp? It seems He
already created angel, demons, heaven and hell. It was time to step
up the game. Man came next. What about this?
..."God" did evolve somthimg a "little" smarter then
a chimp. Theists !


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2020-09-15 18:56:57 UTC
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Post by Ted
On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 11:24:37 -0400, Pat Barker+
Post by Pat Barker+
Post by z***@windstream.net
Use your reasoning power. First, evolution has many people blinded.
Evolution doesn't need a God. So if evolution is true, what came
first, the heart or the body? What came first, the veins and
arteries, or the body, or the heart?
Why not believe in both?
Why couldn't God have created the heavens and the earth, light and
WHAT FUCKING GOD?

Why do these morons "think" we should even give a thought to the god
of somebody else's religion before they have even attempted to justify
it in the real world??
Post by Ted
Post by Pat Barker+
darkness, and then started one celled creatures that evolved?
Try to remember that God is infinite. Forever and a day. And at some
WHAT IS THERE TO "REMEMBER", imbecile who knows atheists aren't even
closet Christians, so "God" means no more to us than Zeus, Odin,
Osiris and all the others do to him?
Post by Ted
Post by Pat Barker+
time during the evolution of animals, why couldn't God have decided
that he wanted something a little smarter than a chimp? It seems He
already created angel, demons, heaven and hell. It was time to step
up the game. Man came next. What about this?
Prove this bullshit, imbecile.
Post by Ted
..."God" did evolve somthimg a "little" smarter then
a chimp. Theists !
I'll never understand the theist mentality. They know that outside
their religion, its god is merely somebody else's religious belief.

Yet they are so disconnected from the real world that they don't
understand why they shouldn't presume it to anybody apart from their
co-religionists.
Andrew
2020-09-16 03:56:23 UTC
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Post by z***@windstream.net
Use your reasoning power. First, evolution has many people blinded.
Evolution doesn't need a God. So if evolution is true, what came
first, the heart or the body? What came first, the veins and
arteries, or the body, or the heart?
Why not believe in both?
Why couldn't God have created the heavens and the earth, light and
darkness, and then started one celled creatures that evolved?
Try to remember that God is infinite. Forever and a day. And at some
time during the evolution of animals, why couldn't God have decided
that he wanted something a little smarter than a chimp? It seems He
already created angel, demons, heaven and hell. It was time to step
up the game. Man came next.
What about this?
Because the original Creation ~ was perfect.

"And God saw every thing that he had
made, and, behold, it was very good."
~ Genesis 1:31
z***@windstream.net
2020-09-16 20:12:18 UTC
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Post by Pat Barker+
Post by z***@windstream.net
Use your reasoning power. First, evolution has many people blinded.
Evolution doesn't need a God. So if evolution is true, what came
first, the heart or the body? What came first, the veins and
arteries, or the body, or the heart?
Why not believe in both?
Because they contradict one another. One has a Creator, the other does
not. They both can't be true.
Post by Pat Barker+
Why couldn't God have created the heavens and the earth, light and
darkness, and then started one celled creatures that evolved?
Why would He do that?
Post by Pat Barker+
Try to remember that God is infinite. Forever and a day. And at some
time during the evolution of animals, why couldn't God have decided
that he wanted something a little smarter than a chimp? It seems He
already created angel, demons, heaven and hell. It was time to step
up the game. Man came next.
What about this?
Sorry Charlie, but you are a mile off. Yes, God did create angels.

God did not create the demons. They were once good angels, and they
rebelled against God, thus making themselves demons.

There is no literal hellfire place. That is sadistic and a big lie
about God. Would you lay your disobedient son's hand on a red-hot
burner for punishment? You would be visiting bars for a long time. And
I don't mean taverns.

Man is made in God's image. Evolution says man was made in the apes
image.

James
www.jw.org
The Bible is truths
Mitchell Holman
2020-09-17 01:59:35 UTC
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On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 11:24:37 -0400, Pat Barker+
Post by Pat Barker+
Post by z***@windstream.net
Use your reasoning power. First, evolution has many people blinded.
Evolution doesn't need a God. So if evolution is true, what came
first, the heart or the body? What came first, the veins and
arteries, or the body, or the heart?
Why not believe in both?
Because they contradict one another. One has a Creator, the other does
not. They both can't be true.
Post by Pat Barker+
Why couldn't God have created the heavens and the earth, light and
darkness, and then started one celled creatures that evolved?
Why would He do that?
Post by Pat Barker+
Try to remember that God is infinite. Forever and a day. And at some
time during the evolution of animals, why couldn't God have decided
that he wanted something a little smarter than a chimp? It seems He
already created angel, demons, heaven and hell. It was time to step
up the game. Man came next.
What about this?
Sorry Charlie, but you are a mile off. Yes, God did create angels.
God did not create the demons. They were once good angels, and they
rebelled against God, thus making themselves demons.
If they exist it is either because god
cannot eliminate them or doesn't WANT to
eliminate them.

Which is it?
Post by Ted
Man is made in God's image.
Does god have a navel?
Post by Ted
Evolution says man was made in the apes
image.
Evolution doesn't even say that
mankind was "made", much less in the
"image" of something else.
d***@cox.net
2020-09-17 22:42:31 UTC
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Post by Ted
On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 11:24:37 -0400, Pat Barker+
Post by Pat Barker+
Post by z***@windstream.net
Use your reasoning power. First, evolution has many people blinded.
Evolution doesn't need a God. So if evolution is true, what came
first, the heart or the body? What came first, the veins and
arteries, or the body, or the heart?
Why not believe in both?
Because they contradict one another. One has a Creator, the other does
not. They both can't be true.
Post by Pat Barker+
Why couldn't God have created the heavens and the earth, light and
darkness, and then started one celled creatures that evolved?
Why would He do that?
Post by Pat Barker+
Try to remember that God is infinite. Forever and a day. And at some
time during the evolution of animals, why couldn't God have decided
that he wanted something a little smarter than a chimp? It seems He
already created angel, demons, heaven and hell. It was time to step
up the game. Man came next.
What about this?
Sorry Charlie, but you are a mile off. Yes, God did create angels.
God did not create the demons. They were once good angels, and they
rebelled against God, thus making themselves demons.
Well, did God create them, which is impossible, or did he let them evolve.
Post by Ted
There is no literal hellfire place. That is sadistic and a big lie
about God. Would you lay your disobedient son's hand on a red-hot
burner for punishment? You would be visiting bars for a long time. And
I don't mean taverns.
Man is made in God's image. Evolution says man was made in the apes
image.
Uh, his name is Jesus Christ. And we are made in his image. No man has seen
God.
Post by Ted
James
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Uh, his name is Jesus Christ.
There is no evidence that your Jesus ever existed; anonymous fairy-tale
Bible stories are not evidence. Good evidence, of which you have _none_,
would include:
- Contemporaneous writings of non-anonymous eye-witnesses.
- Contemporaneous official Roman government records about
the miracle worker.
- Contemporaneous other government records about the miracle
worker in Palestine.
- Today, [imaginary] Jesus himself appears and tells us.
- Verifiable evidence of miracles/devils/angels/heaven/hell/etc existing.

You've got _none_ of that. _None_ whatsoever.
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There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
A Jesus is as useful as a Zeus.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is _THE_ foundation of Christianity.
sycophant - an ass kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.
Peter Pan
2020-09-17 23:18:03 UTC
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On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 11:24:37 -0400, Pat Barker+
Post by Pat Barker+
Post by z***@windstream.net
Use your reasoning power. First, evolution has many people blinded.
Evolution doesn't need a God. So if evolution is true, what came
first, the heart or the body? What came first, the veins and
arteries, or the body, or the heart?
Why not believe in both?
Because they contradict one another. One has a Creator, the other does
not. They both can't be true.
If there were a god, it could have used evolution to
speciate life. Why can't you articulate a coherent
objection to that?
Post by Ted
Post by Pat Barker+
Why couldn't God have created the heavens and the earth, light and
darkness, and then started one celled creatures that evolved?
Why would He do that?
Why would a god create a universe at all?
Post by Ted
Post by Pat Barker+
Try to remember that God is infinite. Forever and a day. And at some
time during the evolution of animals, why couldn't God have decided
that he wanted something a little smarter than a chimp? It seems He
already created angel, demons, heaven and hell. It was time to step
up the game. Man came next.
What about this?
Sorry Charlie, but you are a mile off. Yes, God did create angels.
God did not create the demons. They were once good angels, and they
rebelled against God, thus making themselves demons.
There is no literal hellfire place. That is sadistic and a big lie
about God. Would you lay your disobedient son's hand on a red-hot
burner for punishment? You would be visiting bars for a long time. And
I don't mean taverns.
Man is made in God's image.
God was made in man's image. Isn't that funny.
Post by Ted
Evolution says man was made in the apes
image.
Actually, since man *is* an ape, evolution is right and
you are wrong.

HTH.
Lucifer
2020-09-18 02:28:08 UTC
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On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 11:24:37 -0400, Pat Barker+
Post by Pat Barker+
Post by z***@windstream.net
Use your reasoning power. First, evolution has many people blinded.
Evolution doesn't need a God. So if evolution is true, what came
first, the heart or the body? What came first, the veins and
arteries, or the body, or the heart?
Why not believe in both?
Because they contradict one another. One has a Creator, the other does
not. They both can't be true.
I think you mean they can't both be true because we know evolution
is true. Evolution does not attempt to explain how life came to be so
you could have a creator that got things started then turned it over
to evolution.
Post by Ted
Post by Pat Barker+
Why couldn't God have created the heavens and the earth, light and
darkness, and then started one celled creatures that evolved?
Why would He do that?
God tells us his ways are not our ways.
Post by Ted
Post by Pat Barker+
Try to remember that God is infinite. Forever and a day. And at some
time during the evolution of animals, why couldn't God have decided
that he wanted something a little smarter than a chimp? It seems He
already created angel, demons, heaven and hell. It was time to step
up the game. Man came next.
What about this?
Sorry Charlie, but you are a mile off. Yes, God did create angels.
God did not create the demons. They were once good angels, and they
rebelled against God, thus making themselves demons.
God created demons indirectly.
Post by Ted
There is no literal hellfire place. That is sadistic and a big lie
about God. Would you lay your disobedient son's hand on a red-hot
burner for punishment? You would be visiting bars for a long time. And
I don't mean taverns.
God is sadistic and stupid.
Post by Ted
Man is made in God's image.
Man made God in man's image. That's why God has all man's
worst characteristics.
Post by Ted
Evolution says man was made in the apes image.
Only in your false teaching.
We have problems because evolution is not an intelligent process.
Post by Ted
James
Andrew
2020-09-16 03:55:54 UTC
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God
You have no evidence this god/God exists; it is same as gods Zeus and Thor.
Use your reasoning power. First, evolution has many people blinded.
Evolution doesn't need a God. So if evolution is true, what came
first, the heart or the body? What came first, the veins and
arteries, or the body, or the heart?
I could almost understand one microscopic organism being created over
time by mindless random chance. BUT MILLIONS OF ORGANISMS, FROM
MICROSCOPIC THINGS TO WHALES? ALL FROM MINDLESS CHANCE?
I may not be a genius, but I am not stupid. USE YOUR BRAIN GIVEN TO
YOU.
Exactly! And they reject *established science* on the subject.
Post by z***@windstream.net
James
www.jw.org
The Bible is truths
z***@windstream.net
2020-09-16 20:16:47 UTC
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God
You have no evidence this god/God exists; it is same as gods Zeus and Thor.
Use your reasoning power. First, evolution has many people blinded.
Evolution doesn't need a God. So if evolution is true, what came
first, the heart or the body? What came first, the veins and
arteries, or the body, or the heart?
I could almost understand one microscopic organism being created over
time by mindless random chance. BUT MILLIONS OF ORGANISMS, FROM
MICROSCOPIC THINGS TO WHALES? ALL FROM MINDLESS CHANCE?
I may not be a genius, but I am not stupid. USE YOUR BRAIN GIVEN TO
YOU.
Exactly! And they reject *established science* on the subject.
Evolution is about as scientific as Piltdown Man was.

James
www.jw.org
The Bible is truths
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James
www.jw.org
The Bible is truths
LinuxGal
2020-09-16 20:19:10 UTC
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Evolution is about as scientific as Piltdown Man was.
What is your criteria for scientific? Mine is that a theory
is falsifiable. If you found a mammalian fossil below the
trilobite strata, that would falsify evolution.
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d***@cox.net
2020-09-17 22:35:03 UTC
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Evolution is about as scientific as Piltdown Man was.
What is your criteria for scientific? Mine is that a theory
is falsifiable. If you found a mammalian fossil below the
trilobite strata, that would falsify evolution.
The jw boy is hopeless.
the dukester, American-American
z***@windstream.net
2020-09-18 13:05:21 UTC
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Post by z***@windstream.net
Evolution is about as scientific as Piltdown Man was.
What is your criteria for scientific?
Proven facts, not theories.
Post by LinuxGal
Mine is that a theory
is falsifiable. If you found a mammalian fossil below the
trilobite strata, that would falsify evolution.
Evolution has already been falsified. Unfortunely, mainstream science
has yet to confirm that. Even Darwin himself had doubts about his own
theory.

James
www.jw.org
The Bible is truths
Mitchell Holman
2020-09-17 02:01:08 UTC
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Post by Andrew
Post by z***@windstream.net
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God
You have no evidence this god/God exists; it is same as gods Zeus and Thor.
Use your reasoning power. First, evolution has many people blinded.
Evolution doesn't need a God. So if evolution is true, what came
first, the heart or the body? What came first, the veins and
arteries, or the body, or the heart?
I could almost understand one microscopic organism being created
over time by mindless random chance. BUT MILLIONS OF ORGANISMS, FROM
MICROSCOPIC THINGS TO WHALES? ALL FROM MINDLESS CHANCE?
I may not be a genius, but I am not stupid. USE YOUR BRAIN GIVEN TO
YOU.
Exactly! And they reject *established science* on the subject.
Evolution is about as scientific as Piltdown Man was.
Ever take an antibiotic?

Ever get a vaccination?

Then you believe in evolution.
aaa
2020-09-17 18:53:37 UTC
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On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 20:55:54 -0700, "Andrew"
Post by Andrew
Post by z***@windstream.net
Post by ----------- A t h e i s t ------------
God
You have no evidence this god/God exists; it is same as gods Zeus and Thor.
Use your reasoning power. First, evolution has many people blinded.
Evolution doesn't need a God. So if evolution is true, what came
first, the heart or the body? What came first, the veins and
arteries, or the body, or the heart?
I could almost understand one microscopic organism being created
over time by mindless random chance. BUT MILLIONS OF ORGANISMS, FROM
MICROSCOPIC THINGS TO WHALES? ALL FROM MINDLESS CHANCE?
I may not be a genius, but I am not stupid. USE YOUR BRAIN GIVEN TO
YOU.
Exactly! And they reject *established science* on the subject.
Evolution is about as scientific as Piltdown Man was.
Ever take an antibiotic?
Ever get a vaccination?
Then you believe in evolution.
No, they are evidence of intelligent design instead.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
Christ!
Mitchell Holman
2020-09-18 01:46:14 UTC
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On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 20:55:54 -0700, "Andrew"
Post by Andrew
Post by z***@windstream.net
Post by ----------- A t h e i s t ------------
God
You have no evidence this god/God exists; it is same as gods Zeus and Thor.
Use your reasoning power. First, evolution has many people blinded.
Evolution doesn't need a God. So if evolution is true, what came
first, the heart or the body? What came first, the veins and
arteries, or the body, or the heart?
I could almost understand one microscopic organism being created
over time by mindless random chance. BUT MILLIONS OF ORGANISMS, FROM
MICROSCOPIC THINGS TO WHALES? ALL FROM MINDLESS CHANCE?
I may not be a genius, but I am not stupid. USE YOUR BRAIN GIVEN TO
YOU.
Exactly! And they reject *established science* on the subject.
Evolution is about as scientific as Piltdown Man was.
Ever take an antibiotic?
Ever get a vaccination?
Then you believe in evolution.
No, they are evidence of intelligent design instead.
You mean HUMAN intelligent design.
z***@windstream.net
2020-09-18 13:07:36 UTC
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Post by z***@windstream.net
On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 20:55:54 -0700, "Andrew"
Post by Andrew
Post by z***@windstream.net
Post by ----------- A t h e i s t ------------
God
You have no evidence this god/God exists; it is same as gods Zeus and Thor.
Use your reasoning power. First, evolution has many people blinded.
Evolution doesn't need a God. So if evolution is true, what came
first, the heart or the body? What came first, the veins and
arteries, or the body, or the heart?
I could almost understand one microscopic organism being created
over time by mindless random chance. BUT MILLIONS OF ORGANISMS, FROM
MICROSCOPIC THINGS TO WHALES? ALL FROM MINDLESS CHANCE?
I may not be a genius, but I am not stupid. USE YOUR BRAIN GIVEN TO
YOU.
Exactly! And they reject *established science* on the subject.
Evolution is about as scientific as Piltdown Man was.
Ever take an antibiotic?
Ever get a vaccination?
Then you believe in evolution.
Why do you say I believe in evolution concerning antibiotics and
vaccinations?

James
www.jw.org
The Bible is truths
d***@cox.net
2020-09-17 22:14:38 UTC
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 05:06:54 -0700, ----------- A t h e i s t
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God
You have no evidence this god/God exists; it is same as gods Zeus and Thor.
Use your reasoning power. First, evolution has many people blinded.
Evolution doesn't need a God.
Yet it was God that gave us evolution.
Post by z***@windstream.net
So if evolution is true, what came
first, the heart or the body? What came first, the veins and
arteries, or the body, or the heart?
Would you believe it all evolved.
Post by z***@windstream.net
I could almost understand one microscopic organism being created over
time by mindless random chance. BUT MILLIONS OF ORGANISMS, FROM
MICROSCOPIC THINGS TO WHALES? ALL FROM MINDLESS CHANCE?
I may not be a genius,
You aren't.
the dukester, American-American
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God is love,
Nope, the Bible god is too full of hate to be love; an impossible
god cannot exist, it is imaginary man-invented, QED.

Example:
6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;
7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;
8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:
9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the Lord thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.

In "love" your [man-invented] god/God commanded that people kill
their own mothers, wives, daughters, brothers and sons who the
impotent god/God was unable to convince it existed; what a weak-ass
God that could neither convince nor do its own killing. Imaginary, man-invented.
--
There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
A Jesus is as useful as a Zeus.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is _THE_ foundation of Christianity.
sycophant - an ass kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.
Michael Christ
2020-09-14 22:10:53 UTC
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 God is love,
Nope, the Bible god is too full of hate to be love;
The bible God who doesn't exist is too full of hate! :-)))))))))))))))).

What if the hate, Mr Lovely Golden Holy Ass, in you blinds you to
reality??!!

What was that? "Nah, it can't be me!!!" :-). No, of course not.






Michael Christ





an impossible
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 god cannot exist, it is imaginary man-invented, QED.
6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or
the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice
thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast
not known, thou, nor thy fathers;
7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto
thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the
other end of the earth;
8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall
thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal
9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to
put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath
sought to thrust thee away from the Lord thy God, which brought thee out
of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
In "love" your [man-invented] god/God commanded that people kill
their own mothers, wives, daughters, brothers and sons who the
impotent god/God was unable to convince it existed; what a weak-ass
God that could neither convince nor do its own killing.  Imaginary,
man-invented.
--
Rom 5:8  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory".

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything".

"Sin is not what you do, it is what you are".

"What makes the bible the truth?" "The resonance of God".

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination". What do you
think sin is? Just a word??
z***@windstream.net
2020-09-15 14:48:52 UTC
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God is love,
Nope, the Bible god is too full of hate to be love; an impossible
god cannot exist, it is imaginary man-invented, QED.
6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;
7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;
9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the Lord thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
In "love" your [man-invented] god/God commanded that people kill
their own mothers, wives, daughters, brothers and sons who the
impotent god/God was unable to convince it existed; what a weak-ass
God that could neither convince nor do its own killing. Imaginary, man-invented.
You don't understand.

First, God already warned them not to serve false gods. Ex 20:4-6,

"Then God spoke all these words:

2 “I am Jehovah your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt,
out of the house of slavery. 3 You must not have any other gods
besides me.
4 “You must not make for yourself a carved image or a form like
anything that is in the heavens above or on the earth below or in the
waters under the earth. 5 You must not bow down to them nor be enticed
to serve them, for I, Jehovah your God, am a God who requires
exclusive devotion, bringing punishment for the error of fathers upon
sons, upon the third generation and upon the fourth generation of
those who hate me, 6 but showing loyal love to the thousandth
generation of those who love me and keep my commandments."

If you are warned not to murder for fear of punishment, and you
murder, whose fault is that?

The Israelites were warned. It's on their head.

James
www.jw.org
The Bible is truths
Lucifer
2020-09-16 00:55:39 UTC
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Post by z***@windstream.net
God is love,
Nope, the Bible god is too full of hate to be love; an impossible
god cannot exist, it is imaginary man-invented, QED.
6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;
7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;
9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the Lord thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
In "love" your [man-invented] god/God commanded that people kill
their own mothers, wives, daughters, brothers and sons who the
impotent god/God was unable to convince it existed; what a weak-ass
God that could neither convince nor do its own killing. Imaginary, man-invented.
You don't understand.
First, God already warned them not to serve false gods. Ex 20:4-6,
2 “I am Jehovah your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt,
out of the house of slavery. 3 You must not have any other gods
besides me.
4 “You must not make for yourself a carved image or a form like
anything that is in the heavens above or on the earth below or in the
waters under the earth. 5 You must not bow down to them nor be enticed
to serve them, for I, Jehovah your God, am a God who requires
exclusive devotion, bringing punishment for the error of fathers upon
sons, upon the third generation and upon the fourth generation of
those who hate me, 6 but showing loyal love to the thousandth
generation of those who love me and keep my commandments."
If you are warned not to murder for fear of punishment, and you
murder, whose fault is that?
God, for making us that way.
Post by z***@windstream.net
The Israelites were warned. It's on their head.
It concerns me you find God acceptable.
It's people like you that cause problems.
You are a psychopath.

https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/features/sociopath-psychopath-difference#1
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James
Andrew
2020-09-16 03:54:46 UTC
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It concerns me you find God acceptable.
The awesome and true God, our Creator
and heavenly Father, is revealed to us
through the life and ministry of > Jesus.

Why don't you like Him?

He is the "express image" of the true God.

"God,..has in these last days spoken unto us
by His Son, whom He has appointed Heir of
all things, by whom also He made the worlds.

"Who being the brightness of His glory and
the express image of His person, upholding
all things by the word of His power,"
~ Hebrews 1:1-3
John Locke
2020-09-16 04:11:32 UTC
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Post by Lucifer
It concerns me you find God acceptable.
The awesome and true God, our Creator
and heavenly Father, is revealed to us
through the life and ministry of > Jesus.
Why don't you like Him?
He is the "express image" of the true God.
"God,..has in these last days spoken unto us
by His Son, whom He has appointed Heir of
all things, by whom also He made the worlds.
"Who being the brightness of His glory and
the express image of His person, upholding
all things by the word of His power,"
~ Hebrews 1:1-3
...you talk about your gods as if they were actually real.
If this religious buffoonery weren't socially acceptable you'd be
occupying space at the funny farm right along side of the guy
who talks to giant white rabbits !


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Post by z***@windstream.net
God is love,
Nope, the Bible god is too full of hate to be love; an impossible
god cannot exist, it is imaginary man-invented, QED.
6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;
7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;
9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the Lord thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
In "love" your [man-invented] god/God commanded that people kill
their own mothers, wives, daughters, brothers and sons who the
impotent god/God was unable to convince it existed; what a weak-ass
God that could neither convince nor do its own killing. Imaginary, man-invented.
You don't understand.
First, God already warned them not to serve false gods. Ex 20:4-6,
2 “I am Jehovah your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt,
out of the house of slavery. 3 You must not have any other gods
besides me.
4 “You must not make for yourself a carved image or a form like
anything that is in the heavens above or on the earth below or in the
waters under the earth. 5 You must not bow down to them nor be enticed
to serve them, for I, Jehovah your God, am a God who requires
exclusive devotion, bringing punishment for the error of fathers upon
sons, upon the third generation and upon the fourth generation of
those who hate me, 6 but showing loyal love to the thousandth
generation of those who love me and keep my commandments."
If you are warned not to murder for fear of punishment, and you
murder, whose fault is that?
God, for making us that way.
He made us with a free will. Would you rather have been created an
android?
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The Israelites were warned. It's on their head.
It concerns me you find God acceptable.
It's people like you that cause problems.
You are a psychopath.
Sorry to disappoint you, but I am not violent.

James
www.jw.org
The Bible is truths
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James
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2020-09-18 01:28:50 UTC
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God is love,
Nope, the Bible god is too full of hate to be love; an impossible
god cannot exist, it is imaginary man-invented, QED.
6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;
7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;
9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the Lord thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
In "love" your [man-invented] god/God commanded that people kill
their own mothers, wives, daughters, brothers and sons who the
impotent god/God was unable to convince it existed; what a weak-ass
God that could neither convince nor do its own killing. Imaginary, man-invented.
You don't understand.
First, God already warned them not to serve false gods. Ex 20:4-6,
2 “I am Jehovah your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt,
out of the house of slavery. 3 You must not have any other gods
besides me.
4 “You must not make for yourself a carved image or a form like
anything that is in the heavens above or on the earth below or in the
waters under the earth. 5 You must not bow down to them nor be enticed
to serve them, for I, Jehovah your God, am a God who requires
exclusive devotion, bringing punishment for the error of fathers upon
sons, upon the third generation and upon the fourth generation of
those who hate me, 6 but showing loyal love to the thousandth
generation of those who love me and keep my commandments."
If you are warned not to murder for fear of punishment, and you
murder, whose fault is that?
God, for making us that way.
He made us with a free will. Would you rather have been created an
android?
There are people who always make good choices, yet they have the
same free will as the rest of us. God should use the goody two shoes
as his baseline.
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The Israelites were warned. It's on their head.
It concerns me you find God acceptable.
It's people like you that cause problems.
You are a psychopath.
Sorry to disappoint you, but I am not violent.
Psychopaths are not all violent. Like you they lack empathy.
Like you they don't care if God treats people abominably.
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James
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2020-09-16 11:59:28 UTC
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God is love,
Nope, the Bible god is too full of hate to be love; an impossible
god cannot exist, it is imaginary man-invented, QED.
6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;
7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;
9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the Lord thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
In "love" your [man-invented] god/God commanded that people kill
their own mothers, wives, daughters, brothers and sons who the
impotent god/God was unable to convince it existed; what a weak-ass
God that could neither convince nor do its own killing. Imaginary, man-invented.
You don't understand.
I understand that your [imaginary] god/God was too weak to convince
those people that it actually existed or that it was no different
than any other [imaginary] god, so the Bible writers put in commands
to kill non-believers, especially (in above verse) close family members.
--
There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
A Jesus is as useful as a Zeus.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is _THE_ foundation of Christianity.
sycophant - an ass kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.
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2020-09-17 23:21:50 UTC
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God is love,
Nope, the Bible god is too full of hate to be love; an impossible
god cannot exist, it is imaginary man-invented, QED.
6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter,
or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul,
entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which
thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;
7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh
unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even
unto the other end of the earth;
8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither
shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt
9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him
to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath
sought to thrust thee away from the Lord thy God, which brought thee
out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
In "love" your [man-invented] god/God commanded that people kill
their own mothers, wives, daughters, brothers and sons who the
impotent god/God was unable to convince it existed; what a weak-ass
God that could neither convince nor do its own killing. Imaginary, man-invented.
You don't understand.
I understand that your [imaginary] god/God was too weak to convince
those people that it actually existed or that it was no different
than any other [imaginary] god, so the Bible writers put in commands
to kill non-believers, especially (in above verse) close family members.
zebra, have you ever asked yourself why your God was both unable to
convince those people and appeared to be just like other imaginary gods?

Why is your [imaginary] god/God so impotent?
--
There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
A Jesus is as useful as a Zeus.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is _THE_ foundation of Christianity.
sycophant - an ass kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.
d***@cox.net
2020-09-17 22:34:16 UTC
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God is love,
Nope, the Bible god is too full of hate to be love; an impossible
god cannot exist, it is imaginary man-invented, QED.
6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;
7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;
9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the Lord thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
In "love" your [man-invented] god/God commanded that people kill
their own mothers, wives, daughters, brothers and sons who the
impotent god/God was unable to convince it existed; what a weak-ass
God that could neither convince nor do its own killing. Imaginary, man-invented.
You don't understand.
First, God already warned them not to serve false gods. Ex 20:4-6,
2 “I am Jehovah your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt,
out of the house of slavery. 3 You must not have any other gods
besides me.
4 “You must not make for yourself a carved image or a form like
anything that is in the heavens above or on the earth below or in the
waters under the earth. 5 You must not bow down to them nor be enticed
to serve them, for I, Jehovah your God, am a God who requires
exclusive devotion, bringing punishment for the error of fathers upon
sons, upon the third generation and upon the fourth generation of
those who hate me, 6 but showing loyal love to the thousandth
generation of those who love me and keep my commandments."
If you are warned not to murder for fear of punishment, and you
murder, whose fault is that?
The Israelites were warned. It's on their head.
You.
the dukester, American-American
Africa-Has-No-Other-Boss-But-Jesus
2020-09-14 12:52:38 UTC
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Read the Gospel according to Saint Paul at Mars Hill in Athens before the Athenian Archons then get back to me...
I doubt you can comprehend it though!
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Read the Gospel according to
Nope, present right here; we have many Bible verses that show your
god/God is a hateful immoral piece of shit, thus man-made imaginary.
--
There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
A Jesus is as useful as a Zeus.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is _THE_ foundation of Christianity.
sycophant - an ass kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.
Bob
2020-09-14 15:05:08 UTC
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Read the Gospel according to
Nope, present right here; we have many Bible verses that show your
god/God is a hateful immoral piece of shit, thus man-made imaginary.
But that's not God's problem. That's your problem.

"To the pure, all things are pure, but to the defiled and unbelieving,
nothing is pure; but both their minds and their consciences are defiled."
[Titus 1:15]

You're welcome.

<smirk>

.
Ted
2020-09-14 17:51:28 UTC
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Read the Gospel according to
Nope, present right here; we have many Bible verses that show your
god/God is a hateful immoral piece of shit, thus man-made imaginary.
Jesus is knocking on the door to your heart.
John Locke
2020-09-15 15:41:19 UTC
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Read the Gospel according to
Nope, present right here; we have many Bible verses that show your
god/God is a hateful immoral piece of shit, thus man-made imaginary.
Jesus is knocking on the door to your heart.
...wished he knock on my front door, Lucifer, my rottweiler,
needs a new chew toy !


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Ted
2020-09-15 18:13:11 UTC
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Read the Gospel according to
Nope, present right here; we have many Bible verses that show your
god/God is a hateful immoral piece of shit, thus man-made
imaginary.
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Post by Ted
Jesus is knocking on the door to your heart.
...wished he knock on my front door, Lucifer, my rottweiler,
needs a new chew toy !
LOL! How many dogs do you have?
John Locke
2020-09-15 18:51:37 UTC
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Read the Gospel according to
Nope, present right here; we have many Bible verses that show
your
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god/God is a hateful immoral piece of shit, thus man-made
imaginary.
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Post by Ted
Jesus is knocking on the door to your heart.
...wished he knock on my front door, Lucifer, my rottweiler,
needs a new chew toy !
LOL! How many dogs do you have?
..none ! The Lucifer thing is just joke material. I have cats,
however. All feral. One I was able to tame (90 % ..watch out though
for that residual 10 %)) and she lives indoors. Beautiful cat. The
other two live outdoors and are still half wild despite my
considerable attempts to tame them down.


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2020-09-16 05:00:48 UTC
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Read the Gospel according to
Nope, present right here; we have many Bible verses that show
your
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god/God is a hateful immoral piece of shit, thus man-made
imaginary.
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Post by Ted
Jesus is knocking on the door to your heart.
...wished he knock on my front door, Lucifer, my rottweiler,
needs a new chew toy !
LOL! How many dogs do you have?
..none ! The Lucifer thing is just joke material. I have cats,
however. All feral. One I was able to tame (90 % ..watch out though
for that residual 10 %)) and she lives indoors. Beautiful cat. The
other two live outdoors and are still half wild despite my
considerable attempts to tame them down.
That's cool, I'd like to have some cats. I do have some big dogs.
Cats would be easier, iirc.
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