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Can absurd and theism go together?
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Jahnu
2020-04-05 02:12:34 UTC
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The absurd goes well with both atheism and theism.

Inherently atheism is an absurd point of view, especially after it was
observed that nature shows unmistaken signs of intelligent design.
The idea that the world and conscious awareness evolved over time from
dead matter, is indeed an absurd idea.

However, many religious faiths also display elements of absurdity,
which can basically be boiled down to - anyone who does not follow our
version and understanding of God are misled by Satan, and will go to
hell after death.

In Judaism there is the obviously absurd idea, that only Jews have a
soul. I Islam there is another absurd idea, that to kill a non-muslim
is not a sin. In Christianity there is the absurd idea, that only
Jesus can save you from sin, and that he did that by suffering for
you, letting himself be nailed to a cross.

How anyone can harbor such absurd beliefs in God, is beyond me, I
guess it's some of the unavoidable traits of Kali-yuga.

Krishna says:

Abandon all varieties of religion and just surrender unto Me. I shall
deliver you from all sinful reactions. Do not fear. -Bg 18.66


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Harry Krishna
2020-04-06 13:34:24 UTC
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Post by Jahnu
The absurd goes well with both atheism and theism.
Says the guy who shaves his head and chants to a six-armed Smurf.
Jahnu
2020-04-07 01:18:22 UTC
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On Mon, 06 Apr 2020 09:34:24 -0400, Harry Krishna
Post by Harry Krishna
Says the guy who shaves his head and chants to a six-armed Smurf.
--but, but evolution done it.

hahaha :D

Krishna says:

Nature is said to be the cause of all material causes and effects,
whereas the living entity is the cause of the various sufferings and
enjoyments in this world. --Bg 13.21







http://www.touchtalent.com//artist/118705/jahnu-das

https://www.youtube.com/user/jahnudvip?feature=watch

https://www.quora.com/profile/Jahnu-Das

http://youtu.be/Fq-n0bbhpaA

http://youtu.be/B46rjU_q_cM
Harry Krishna
2020-04-07 15:15:17 UTC
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Post by Jahnu
On Mon, 06 Apr 2020 09:34:24 -0400, Harry Krishna
Post by Harry Krishna
Says the guy who shaves his head and chants to a six-armed Smurf.
--but, but evolution done it.
Sorry, I should have said "the guy who shaves his head, chants to a
six-armed Smurf, and knows nothing whatsoever about science".

And no, don't pretend that you do in response: your ignorance is as
obvious as Donald Trump's, as is your dishonesty when called on it.
Jahnu
2020-04-11 08:40:14 UTC
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bitch moan whine
Vishnu says:

When one resents the demigods, who represent God, the Vedas, which
give all knowledge, the cows, brahmanas, Vaisnavas and religious
principles, and ultimately Me, the Supreme, he and his civilization
will be vanquished without delay. -- Srimad Bhagavatam 7.4.27
Syd M.
2020-04-11 16:38:11 UTC
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bitch moan whine
Nothing, since he doesn't exist.

PDW
Don Martin
2020-04-11 18:00:54 UTC
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On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 09:38:11 -0700 (PDT), "Syd M."
Post by Syd M.
bitch moan whine
Nothing, since he doesn't exist.
With six arms, one would think he could at least get up to 30.
--
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
Je pense, donc je suis Charlie.
Syd M.
2020-04-11 22:44:24 UTC
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Post by Don Martin
On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 09:38:11 -0700 (PDT), "Syd M."
Post by Syd M.
bitch moan whine
Nothing, since he doesn't exist.
With six arms, one would think he could at least get up to 30.
He's so blue.

PDW
Jahnu
2020-04-12 01:47:41 UTC
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On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 09:38:11 -0700 (PDT), "Syd M."
Post by Syd M.
Nothing, since he doesn't exist.
You wish...

Krishna says:


From the highest planet in the material world down to the lowest, all
are places of misery wherein repeated birth and death take place. But
one who attains to My abode, O son of Kunti, never takes birth again.
(Bg 8.16)
Harry Krishna
2020-04-13 19:07:22 UTC
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bitch moan whine
Vishnu noticed that you snipped and ran. So does everyone else. For
all your boastfulness, you're still a coward. How pathetic.
Jahnu
2020-04-14 01:29:59 UTC
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bitch moan whine
Vishnu says:

When one resents the demigods, who represent God, the Vedas, which
give all knowledge, the cows, brahmanas, Vaisnavas and religious
principles, and ultimately Me, the Supreme, he and his civilization
will be vanquished without delay. -- Srimad Bhagavatam 7.4.27
Harry Krishna
2020-04-14 13:12:48 UTC
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bitch moan whine
That he saw you snipping and running again. So did everyone else who
read your post. I'm puzzled as to why you feel the need to display
your cowardice in public, when you could easily avoid that by NOT
RESPONDING instead. But then, so much of your behavior is
self-defeating that it's amusing to watch.
Jahnu
2020-04-15 02:05:41 UTC
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On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 09:12:48 -0400, Harry Krishna
Post by Harry Krishna
That he saw you snipping and running again. So did everyone else who
read your post. I'm puzzled as to why you feel the need to display
your cowardice in public, when you could easily avoid that by NOT
RESPONDING instead. But then, so much of your behavior is
self-defeating that it's amusing to watch.
Glad I can amuse you, Hairy :D

In this modern day and age of relativism and liberalism, it is more or
less a no-no to know the Absolute Truth. You are allowed to know with
certainty such things as science and technology, but if you claim that
you have ascertained the original, genuine knowledge of religion from
God Himself, if you profess to know God and the real meaning of life,
you are immediately dismissed as a deranged fanatic.

All religions claim the same thing, comes the invariable response.

Lets examine this typical response of modern man. You see, it is
actually quite foolish. First it is asserted, that everyone says so.
Then the fact that everyone says so, is used to negate what is being
said.

If everyone says the same thing, the logical thing to assume is that
there must be something to it. Not that everyone says the same thing,
so therefore it must be false. How does that even make sense?

In fact, you would expect all religions to say basically the same
things, because all religions are different cultural expressions of
the same Absolute Truth. Surely, the details may vary, but if all
religions are differently conditioned expressions of the same truth,
you'd expect they would mention the same basic principles.

And that's what the Vedic version teaches us - that all religions are
derived from the original religion from God Himself. If this is indeed
so, it stands to reason that it can be investigated and verified. If
it is a fact, it must be discernable. Otherwise it is just some
belief, some speculation. And that is how religion is generally judged
in modern society - some fanciful speculations and beliefs.

Then again, if there is a supreme entity - that which is known as God
- it is a perfectly logical to assume that He has given a process by
which He can be known. But in the climate of the contemporary culture
that at present rules the world, it is very unpopular to claim to know
the original explanation from the Supreme Himself. How can you make
such an outrageous claim, comes the response... nobody knows the
Absolute Truth. It cannot be known.

So where does this strange idea come from that the Truth cannot be
known? It comes from people, of course. It is something the majority
of the population is brought up to believe in. But it makes no sense.
If there is an Absolute Truth, if there is a God, if there is an
ultimate purpose to life, of course it can be known for certain. Why?
Because God, being the almighty, omnipresent, all-knowing Supreme,
surely He can verify Himself beyond doubt.

And if there is no God, if everything is indeed relative and material,
then it cannot be verified. By definition, you can't prove a negative.
That's the funny thing about life - if God exists, it can be known for
sure, but if God does not exist, it is not possible to know for
certain. Note, this is not my opinion, I'm merely stating a fact - if
God exists, it can be known, because then God can verify His own
existence. And if He does not exist, then it cannot be known. It's as
simple as that.

Note how the propaganda-machine tells us the exact opposite. It calls
religious people believers, and atheists are called unbelievers. How
misleading is that? As an atheist you believe in something that cannot
be verified. But as a theist you believe in something that, at least
theoretically, has a chance of being verified.

Thus it can be concluded that it is a an intellectually superior
position to believe in God, rather than the opposite. The first
assumption, that there is a God, has a chance of verification, whereas
the second position, that there is no God, cannot be verified.

But if you dare point out these things - even though they are
indisputable facts - you are met with a wall of resistance - no, no,
nobody knows the truth. God is merely a fairy tale. To believe in God
is no more different than believing in tooth-fairies and Santa Claus,
wah wah wah

What we can learn from this, is that society is not ruled by
benevolent forces. What kind of society will educate it's population
in something so obviously false? So if you know the truth and you want
to inform people about it, you are up against a massive wall of
resistance.

Krishna says:

Now hear, O son of Prtha, how by practicing yoga in full consciousness
of Me, with mind attached to Me, you can know Me in full, free from
doubt. (Bg 7.1)

I shall now declare unto you in full this knowledge, both phenomenal
and numinous. This being known, nothing further shall remain for you
to know. (Bg. 7.2)
Harry Krishna
2020-04-15 16:46:08 UTC
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Post by Jahnu
On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 09:12:48 -0400, Harry Krishna
Post by Harry Krishna
That he saw you snipping and running again. So did everyone else who
read your post. I'm puzzled as to why you feel the need to display
your cowardice in public, when you could easily avoid that by NOT
RESPONDING instead. But then, so much of your behavior is
self-defeating that it's amusing to watch.
Glad I can amuse you,
In the same way as Bozo the Clown.
Jahnu
2020-04-16 23:26:16 UTC
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On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 12:46:08 -0400, Harry Krishna
Post by Harry Krishna
In the same way as Bozo the Clown.
You're like a disease on nature.

Fortunately, you'll soon be dead.

Vishnu says:

When one resents the demigods, who represent God, the Vedas, which
give all knowledge, the cows, brahmanas, Vaisnavas and religious
principles, and ultimately Me, the Supreme, he and his civilization
will be vanquished without delay. -- Srimad Bhagavatam 7.4.27
Yap Honghor
2020-04-17 09:40:30 UTC
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Post by Jahnu
On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 12:46:08 -0400, Harry Krishna
Post by Harry Krishna
In the same way as Bozo the Clown.
You're like a disease on nature.
Fortunately, you'll soon be dead.
A loser here resorts to curse when he knows he has lost!
Harry is Krishna to you, moron!
Jahnu
2020-04-18 01:04:33 UTC
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hahaha :) You sound like one of these little funny dogs.

You can either live in a reality defined by God, or you can live in a
reality defined by the modern Coca-cola culture. It’s up to you. You
have that choice.

You know, how in movies they always lament - oh woe , poor me, if I'd
only acted differently, if I just hadn't done this or that... he would
still be alive, wah wah it is my fault.

This is the modern mentality, I'm the doer - something good happens -
I did that. Something bad happens - I did that or it's someone else's
fault...

The the vast majority of people go through their whole lives lamenting
over the bad that goes down and rejoicing over the good that happens.

But life gets so much more simple when we understand the law of karma.
It so simplifies our outlook on the world.

Karma is a law of nature. Everything that happens in the universe, in
the 311 trillion years it lasts, is pre-programmed, arranged by the
Supreme's material energy - it is one breath of Maha-vishnu, which
means that one exhalation and inhalation of God lasts 311 trillion
solar years. That's the first thing to discover about God - how great
He is.

But that's only a preliminary understanding of God. Higher than
worshiping God in awe and reverence is to relate to Him as friend, or
parent, or lover. This becomes possible when, by the mercy of the
spiritual master, one is allowed entrance into God's personality.

-- but, but you have no proof, it's all random chance, how can there
be a God, like some magic pixie in the sky?

Anyway, so every material interaction, right down to the movement of
each and every atom and molecule in the universe is arranged by
Krishna in His form as Paramatma - God in the hearts of all living
entities.

What that means is we don’t have to lament over anything, because no
matter what we did at any given time, it was destined to happen. It
doesn't matter what we did or didn't do, if it's our friend's karma to
die at a certain time, there i nothing we could have done to stop it
from happening. It’s all being carried out by material nature.

Krishna says:

The spirit soul bewildered by the influence of false ego thinks
himself the doer of activities that are in actuality carried out by
the three modes of material nature. (Bg 3.27)

You see, rather than being peaceful and happy in the knowledge that
everything that happens is inevitable karma, people like to bitch and
moan non-stop about all the things that went wrong.

However, when you know that every atom is controlled by Krishna, you
feel completely secure in surrendering to Him. Why would one not want
to surrender to someone who is in control? It's a natural inclination
to surrender to, and rely upon someone in total control. People
through out all times have surrendered to some supreme power, either
in the form of nature or some supernatural beings in the universe.

--but, but I don't need nobody to to tell me what to do. No god is
gonna tell me how to live my life.

I actually have a theory about that. I am convinced that modern
Christianity and Islam were invented by atheists to ridicule and scorn
God.

--but, but now a days we know the universe popped out of a point,
poof, just like that for no reason at all. The only rhyme and reason
about life I invent myself. I don't need nobody to define my values
for me. I'll figure that out for myself, thank you very much.

Ok, so how do you know what rules to live by in life? Who defines your
values?

-- Uh duh, welcome to the entertainment industry. It's called
Hollywood. Hollywood defines how I live my life.

Really? You mean to say, people other than yourself define your
values?

--no, no I have my own values.

Oh, you mean the values you grew up with in the global culture that
rules the world at present? How do you know your values are more
correct or unassailable than, say, the values of any other culture?

--but, but we try to export our way of freedom to the rest of the
world. It's called globalization. All research shows it's beneficial
for the economy to consume as much as possible. That's why us
Westerners deem it imperial to subject the rest of the world to our
way of life. Why do you think the West is called the free world?

Yes, I get that, but how do you know that Western democracy, based as
it is, on consumption and exploitation of natural resources, is the
best way of life?

--but, but that's obvious. The sales of anti-depressants have shot
through the roof in later years. How is that not good for the economy?
Do you realize how much money the pharmacy industry makes, how much
they contribute to tax and BNP and how many jobs they create all over
the world?

Yes, but how do you measure that a life of consumption is the best way
of life? There is only one way to do that, and I'll tell you how. The
real measure stick of life is happiness, how happy something makes
you…

By measuring the over all happiness and distress obtained from your
activities, it's possible to scientifically determine the best way to
live. And it is a scientific fact that you become more happy and
satisfied with Krishna in your life, than living a life without
Krishna. It’s as simple as that. It's not a matter of faith, it's a
demonstrable, scientific fact.

Krishna says:

In the beginning of creation, the Lord of all creatures sent forth
generations of men and demigods, along with sacrifices for Vishnu, and
blessed them by saying, “Be thou happy by this yajna [sacrifice]
because its performance will bestow upon you everything desirable for
living happily and achieving liberation.

The demigods, being pleased by sacrifices, will also please you, and
thus, by cooperation between men and demigods, prosperity will reign
for all.

In charge of the various necessities of life, the demigods, being
satisfied by the performance of yajña [sacrifice], will supply all
necessities to you. But he who enjoys such gifts without offering them
to the demigods in return is certainly a thief.

The devotees of the Lord are released from all kinds of sins because
they eat food which is offered first for sacrifice. Others, who
prepare food for personal sense enjoyment, verily eat only sin.

All living bodies subsist on food grains, which are produced from
rains. Rains are produced by performance of yajña [sacrifice], and
yajña is born of prescribed duties.

egulated activities are prescribed in the Vedas, and the Vedas are
directly manifested from the Supreme Personality of Godhead.
Consequently the all-pervading Transcendence is eternally situated in
acts of sacrifice.

My dear Arjuna, one who does not follow in human life the cycle of
sacrifice thus established by the Vedas certainly leads a life full of
sin. Living only for the satisfaction of the senses, such a person
lives in vain. —Bhagavad-gita 3.10-16
Yap Honghor
2020-04-18 09:35:33 UTC
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hahaha :) You sound like one of these little funny dogs.
See, mad dogs are chasing to bite your buttock...run, run, kook
Jahnu
2020-04-18 23:42:12 UTC
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hahaha :) You sound like one of these little funny dogs.

Evolution is probably the most common myth, people in general hold to
be true. Of course, most scientists know that evolution is pure
belief, with no evidence to back it up, still, this belief is being
taught in all educational institutions of the world, as a scientific
fact.

Before science came along, people needed religion to tell them about
the world. Religion taught people that God created the world, that God
was the original cause if everything.

Now a days, of course, we know better, because now we have science to
tell us how the world works. Today we we know that chemicals combined
to create life and then evolution created all the different living
entities.

The theory of evolution according to Darwin, is not even a theory
anymore. It’s been updated to science. For the last five decades or
so, evolution has been propagated to the general populace as a
scientific fact.

So lets examine how existence is accounted for by evolution, and see
if it makes any sense.

You see, first there was a pool of chemicals. Then, by the
fluctuations of those chemicals, an amoeba-like creature was formed,
and then this amoeba gradually, through many, many intermediate
species, grew legs and learned to talk.

Ok, so far so good. Don’t even think about whether the first human was
a male or female, that’s just an annoying detail, you don’t have to
worry about. Such annoying details are not taught in evolution.

Then, how did the first human learn to talk, when there was no one to
talk to? That’s another annoying detail they don’t teach you about
evolution.

You are the first human on the planet, completely alone, no one to
talk to. So what do you do? Do you sit down and wait for your counter
part to evolve, so you can begin procreating? Maybe you grunt a little
bit under your breath at the sheer idiocy of your situation.

hahaha :D I know, right? Who comes up with shit like that?

Also when your counter-part finally evolves, you can begin grunting
together and evolve some kind of language. Of course, don’t ask what
language a evolved, and was spoken by the first people, that’s another
annoying detail. As far as we know Sanskrit is the mother of all
languages, and how that fits into evolution is not yet clear.

Note, in contrast to the sheer idiocy of this evolution nonsense, and
it’s linear concept of time, the logical, coherent and authentic
explanation we are offered in the Vedic tradition - humans have simply
always existed. Time is cyclic - civilizations goes through endless
cycles of creation, maintenance, and destruction, age after age. At
least that explanation makes sense to a rational mind.

The modern explanation of evolution is not only improbable and highly
speculative, wishful thinking, it is also complete and utter
anti-intellectual garbage.

Still, it is being taught in all universities as an objective,
scientific fact. It is considered completely rational and the best
explanation according to observable facts. They actually teach you
that in school - evolution is the best explanation we have right now
to explain the world.

Of course, nobody with a brain actually believes in this nonsense, but
this is how it is being propagated to the broad masses.

The fact is that modern mainstream people are brainwashed fools. They
don’t have so much as one single independent thought in their brains.
If they didn’t have TV, newspapers and magazines to tell them what to
think and believe, they’d be up the proverbial creek without a paddle.

It’s a statistic fact that the general mass of people are more
disturbed and dissatisfied than ever before. Anti-depressants are
selling like never before. Some years ago WHO reported that the
biggest health problem facing humanity in the new millennium is that
more and more people will be born with mental problems. Is that the
symptoms of an evolved civilization?

It's rather peculiar how people in this scientific age are so little
scientifically oriented when it comes to God and religion. The dogma
has been created in modern society, that religion is faith only and
science is knowledge only. That’s hardly a scientific approach to
religion and God.

I can understand, how one may reject certain religions, but to
downright deny the existence of a Supreme Being is simply irrational,
and indicates an unevolved intellect.

There is nothing healthy or open-minded about being an atheist, and
the proof is that at the same rate society dispenses with its former
religious values, at the same rate society becomes debased, riddled
with crime and insanity.

Besides, it should be noted, that whether one calls himself a
Christian, Hindu, Mohammedan, Democrat, Republican or whatever, one
can still be of an atheistic mentality. It is not the designations we
put on ourselves that determine our identity. It's our mindsets and
actions and the knowledge we cultivate that define who we are.

There is a Bengali saying - phalena parichiyate - something is judged
by its result. Or, like Jesus said - a tree is judged by its fruits.
So things are judged and understood, not by their names, but by their
effects and influence. And the effect modern society has on the world
is one of destruction. Again, are those the symptoms of an evolved
culture?

In conclusion, here is what science has to say about evolution.

"Scientists who go about teaching that evolution is a fact of life are
great con-men, And the story they are telling may be the GREATEST HOAX
EVER." -- Dr.T.N.Tahmisian, Atomic Energy Commission

"We must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian
accounts of the evolution of any biochemical or cellular system, only
a variety of wishful speculations." -- Franklin Harold, Emeritus
Professor of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology at Colorado State
University, in an Oxford University Press text.

"Darwinian evolution - whatever its other virtues - does not provide a
fruitful heuristic in experimental biology. This becomes especially
clear when we compare it with a heuristic framework such as the atomic
model, which opens up structural chemistry and leads to advances in
the synthesis of a multitude of new molecules of practical benefit.
None of this demonstrates that Darwinism is false. It does, however,
mean that the claim that it is the cornerstone of modern experimental
biology will be met with quiet skepticism from a growing number of
scientists in fields where theories actually do serve as cornerstones
for tangible breakthroughs." --U.S. National Academy of Sciences
member Philip Skell

"[The] Darwinian claim to explain all of evolution is a popular
half-truth whose lack of explicative power is compensated for only by
the religious ferocity of its rhetoric." --National Academy of
Sciences member Lynn Margulis

"Mutations have a very limited ?constructive capacity? . No matter how
numerous they may be, mutations do not produce any kind of evolution."
--Past president of the French Academy of Sciences Pierre-Paul Grasse

"The absence of fossil evidence for intermediary stages between major
transitions in organic design, indeed our inability, even in our
imagination, to construct functional intermediates in many cases, has
been a persistent and nagging problem for gradualistic accounts of
evolution." --Late American paleontologist Stephen Jay Gould

"Phylogenetic incongruities can be seen everywhere in the universal
tree, from its root to the major branchings within and among the
various taxa to the makeup of the primary groupings themselves." --The
father of molecular systematics, Carl Woese

"Most of the animal phyla that are represented in the fossil record
first appear, 'fully formed,' in the Cambrian . The fossil record is
therefore of no help with respect to the origin and early
diversification of the various animal phyla." --Invertebrate Zoology
Textbook

"It remains a mystery how the undirected process of mutation, combined
with natural selection, has resulted in the creation of thousands of
new proteins with extraordinarily diverse and well optimized
functions. This problem is particularly acute for tightly integrated
molecular systems that consist of many interacting parts." --Two
leading biologists inAnnual Review of Genomics and Human Genetics

"New species usually appear in the fossil record suddenly, not
connected with their ancestors by a series of intermediates."
--Eminent evolutionary biologist Ernst Mayr

Science now know that many of the pillars of the Darwinian theory are
either false or misleading. Yet biology texts continue to present them
as factual evidence of Evolution. What does this imply about their
scientific standards? - Jonathan Wells

The bacteriologist Alan H. Linton wrote:

"None exists in the literature claiming that one species has been
shown to evolve into another. Bacteria, the simplest form of
independent life, are ideal for this kind of study, with generation
times of twenty to thirty minutes, and populations achieved after
eighteen hours. But throughout 150 years of the science of
bacteriology, there is no evidence that one species of bacteria has
changed into another. Since there is no evidence for species changes
between the simplest forms of unicellular life, it is not surprising
that there is no evidence for evolution from prokaryotic to eukaryotic
cells, let alone throughout the whole array of higher muliticellular
organisms."

Evolutionary biologists Lynn Margulis and Dorion Sagan echoed the same
thing in 2002:

"Speciation, whether in the remote Galapagos, in the laboratory cages
of the drosophilosophers, or in the crowded sediments of the
paleontologists, still has never been traced."

"Often a cold shudder has run through me, and I have asked myself
whether I may have not devoted myself to a fantasy." (Charles Darwin,
The Life and Letters of Charles Darwin)
Yap Honghor
2020-04-19 01:05:09 UTC
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hahaha :) You sound like one of these little funny dogs.
Letters of Charles Darwin)

As usual, all you have is trash with cut and paste...no nothing from a kook!
Jahnu
2020-04-19 23:13:24 UTC
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Hey Gook, how come you always yap like a dog? Maybe cut down on the
dogs you eat, eh?

Or even better, why don't you go back to your fascist gook friends
over there is Gook-land, and see how it is to live in a state governed
by atheists?

Thank God, it's just a matter of short time now, and they'll be gone.

Vishnu says:

When one resents the demigods, who represent God, the Vedas, which
give all knowledge, the cows, brahmanas, Vaisnavas and religious
principles, and ultimately Me, the Supreme, he and his civilization
will be vanquished without delay. -- Srimad Bhagavatam 7.4.27
Yap Honghor
2020-04-20 02:49:28 UTC
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Hey Gook, how come you always yap like a dog? Maybe cut down on the
dogs you eat, eh?
Hey kook, you eat shit?
Post by Jahnu
Or even better, why don't you go back to your fascist gook friends
over there is Gook-land, and see how it is to live in a state governed
by atheists?
Atheist land is moral while theist land is immoral....world of difference!
Post by Jahnu
Thank God, it's just a matter of short time now, and they'll be gone.
Now, you want to steal the Western god from the whites?
What happened to your smurfs?
We smurfs never teach this Jahnu moron lies!!!!!
Jahnu
2020-04-20 12:42:14 UTC
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yap yap yap
Hey Yappy, you sound like one of these little hysterical dogs :D

Vishnu says:

When one is envious of the demigods, who represent the Supreme
Personality of Godhead, of the Vedas, which give all knowledge, of the
cows, brahmanas, Vaisnavas and religious principles, and ultimately of
Me, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, he and his civilization will
be vanquished without delay. -- Srimad Bhagavatam 7.4.27

Attila
2020-04-19 22:53:38 UTC
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Can absurd and theism not go together? Can you have the latter
without the former?
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Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

Trump 2020

There are four despicable occupations:
Pimps
Politicians
Priests
Reporters

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formally known as the Democrat Party.

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Cloud Hobbit
2020-04-07 21:14:43 UTC
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Post by Harry Krishna
Post by Jahnu
The absurd goes well with both atheism and theism.
Says the guy who shaves his head and chants to a six-armed Smurf.
If you haven't seen this pic of Jesper, you will get all you need to know about taking him seriously.
Jahnu
2020-04-08 03:24:38 UTC
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On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 14:14:43 -0700 (PDT), Cloud Hobbit
Post by Cloud Hobbit
If you haven't seen this pic of Jesper, you will get all you need to know about taking him seriously.
Right, we should only take seriously someone like you - a guy with no
humor, no fun, never fooling around, never taking the piss, never
daring anything, except being a good boring consumer, a citizen who
shuts up and does what he is told, basically like everyone else in
your boring, uninteresting life.

You don't even have the guts to post under your real name here,
because then everyone could see what a boring, nobody loser you are.


Krishna says:

Everyone is forced to act helplessly according to the qualities he has
acquired from the modes of material nature; therefore no one can
refrain from doing something, not even for a moment. - Bg 3.5

One who restrains the senses of action but whose mind dwells on sense
objects certainly deludes himself and is called a pretender. - Bg 3.6

On the other hand, if a sincere person tries to control the active
senses by the mind and begins karma-yoga [in Krishna consciousness]
without attachment, he is by far superior. - Bg 3.7

Perform your prescribed duty, for doing so is better than not working.
One cannot even maintain one's physical body without work. - Bg 3.8


http://www.touchtalent.com//artist/118705/jahnu-das

https://www.youtube.com/user/jahnudvip?feature=watch

https://www.quora.com/profile/Jahnu-Das

http://youtu.be/Fq-n0bbhpaA

http://youtu.be/B46rjU_q_cM
Yap Honghor
2020-04-08 09:49:35 UTC
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Post by Harry Krishna
Post by Jahnu
The absurd goes well with both atheism and theism.
Says the guy who shaves his head and chants to a six-armed Smurf.
Oh ya, the Smurfs are blue in color...but Krishna seemed a normal size human with many arms, too many things to carry!!!
Jahnu
2020-04-08 11:18:51 UTC
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On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 02:49:35 -0700 (PDT), Yap Honghor
Post by Yap Honghor
Oh ya, the Smurfs are blue in color...but Krishna seemed a normal size human with many arms, too many things to carry!!!
BTW, Yappy, do you know why China don't have base-ball? They ate all
the bats :D

Krishna says:

Those miscreants who are grossly foolish, who are lowest among
mankind, whose knowledge is stolen by illusion, and who partake of the
atheistic nature of demons do not surrender unto Me. —Bg 7.15



http://www.touchtalent.com//artist/118705/jahnu-das

https://www.youtube.com/user/jahnudvip?feature=watch

https://www.quora.com/profile/Jahnu-Das

http://youtu.be/Fq-n0bbhpaA

http://youtu.be/B46rjU_q_cM
Yap Honghor
2020-04-09 09:48:22 UTC
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Post by Jahnu
On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 02:49:35 -0700 (PDT), Yap Honghor
Post by Yap Honghor
Oh ya, the Smurfs are blue in color...but Krishna seemed a normal size human with many arms, too many things to carry!!!
BTW, Yappy, do you know why China don't have base-ball? They ate all
the bats :D
LIAR...the bats are all unharmed there, consuming all the mosquitoes happily, but you moron just have to be funny!
LinuxGal
2020-04-09 11:15:05 UTC
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Post by Yap Honghor
Post by Jahnu
On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 02:49:35 -0700 (PDT), Yap Honghor
Post by Yap Honghor
Oh ya, the Smurfs are blue in color...but Krishna seemed a normal size human with many arms, too many things to carry!!!
BTW, Yappy, do you know why China don't have base-ball? They ate all
the bats :D
LIAR...the bats are all unharmed there, consuming all the mosquitoes happily, but you moron just have to be funny!
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John Locke
2020-04-07 01:39:23 UTC
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Can absurd and theism go together?
......go together ? ...hell, they're one in the same thing.


______________________________________________________________________

"Religion is fundamentally opposed to everything I hold in
veneration...ourage, clear thinking, honesty, fairness, and,
above all, love of the truth" - H. L. Mencken

"It's fair to say that the Bible contains equal amounts of
fact, history, and pizza" - Penn Jillette
Cloud Hobbit
2020-04-07 21:12:11 UTC
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Post by Jahnu
The absurd goes well with both atheism and theism.
Inherently atheism is an absurd point of view, especially after it was
observed that nature shows unmistaken signs of intelligent design.
Liar. Nothing of the kind has been demonstrated, indeed it cannot be demonstrated because how would you know the difference without a reference?
Post by Jahnu
The idea that the world and conscious awareness evolved over time from
dead matter, is indeed an absurd idea.
Yet it is the only idea on the subject that has any evidence.

snipped usual Jesper crap.
Cloud Hobbit
2020-04-07 21:16:00 UTC
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Post by Jahnu
The absurd goes well with both atheism and theism.
You can't have one without the other.
Davej
2020-04-11 22:52:51 UTC
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Post by Jahnu
[...]
The idea that the world and conscious awareness evolved over time
from dead matter, is indeed an absurd idea.
Really? Why?
ernobe
2020-04-18 13:11:24 UTC
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Post by Jahnu
The absurd goes well with both atheism and theism.
Inherently atheism is an absurd point of view, especially after it was
observed that nature shows unmistaken signs of intelligent design.
The idea that the world and conscious awareness evolved over time from
dead matter, is indeed an absurd idea.
However, many religious faiths also display elements of absurdity,
which can basically be boiled down to - anyone who does not follow our
version and understanding of God are misled by Satan, and will go to
hell after death.
In Judaism there is the obviously absurd idea, that only Jews have a
soul. I Islam there is another absurd idea, that to kill a non-muslim
is not a sin. In Christianity there is the absurd idea, that only
Jesus can save you from sin, and that he did that by suffering for
you, letting himself be nailed to a cross.
How anyone can harbor such absurd beliefs in God, is beyond me, I
guess it's some of the unavoidable traits of Kali-yuga.
Indeed many religious people have absurd ideas. Perhaps the most absurd is the idea of a bodily resurrection after death, common among Hindus.
Siri Cruise
2020-04-18 17:45:47 UTC
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http://principiadiscordia.com
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'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
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to make order is nore energy made into entropy. insults Islam. Mohammed
Yap Honghor
2020-04-19 01:02:28 UTC
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Post by Siri Cruise
http://principiadiscordia.com
Your work is quite fascinating, but still principlely earthy?
Post by Siri Cruise
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to make order is nore energy made into entropy. insults Islam. Mohammed
Jahnu
2020-04-18 23:59:00 UTC
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Post by ernobe
Indeed many religious people have absurd ideas. Perhaps the most absurd is the idea of a bodily resurrection after death, common among Hindus.
http://reluctant-messenger.com/reincarnation-proof.htm

Vishnu says:

When one resents the demigods, who represent God, the Vedas, which
give all knowledge, the cows, brahmanas, Vaisnavas and religious
principles, and ultimately Me, the Supreme, he and his civilization
will be vanquished without delay. -- Srimad Bhagavatam 7.4.27
aaa
2020-04-18 15:41:33 UTC
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Post by ernobe
Post by Jahnu
The absurd goes well with both atheism and theism.
Inherently atheism is an absurd point of view, especially after it
was observed that nature shows unmistaken signs of intelligent
design. The idea that the world and conscious awareness evolved
over time from dead matter, is indeed an absurd idea.
However, many religious faiths also display elements of absurdity,
which can basically be boiled down to - anyone who does not follow
our version and understanding of God are misled by Satan, and will
go to hell after death.
In Judaism there is the obviously absurd idea, that only Jews have
a soul. I Islam there is another absurd idea, that to kill a
non-muslim is not a sin. In Christianity there is the absurd idea,
that only Jesus can save you from sin, and that he did that by
suffering for you, letting himself be nailed to a cross.
How anyone can harbor such absurd beliefs in God, is beyond me, I
guess it's some of the unavoidable traits of Kali-yuga.
Indeed many religious people have absurd ideas. Perhaps the most
absurd is the idea of a bodily resurrection after death, common among
Hindus.
That's your misunderstanding. The resurrection of Jesus is about the
spiritual resurrection of Christ nature in defeating and overcoming the
death in sin. The spiritual is the true reality. The spiritual
resurrection of the living soul is a lot greater than the physical
resurrection of the body.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
Christ!
Cloud Hobbit
2020-04-18 18:27:57 UTC
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Right, we should only take  >seriously someone like you - a guy >with no
humor, no fun, never fooling >around, never taking the piss, never
daring anything, except being a >good boring consumer, a citizen >who
shuts up and does what he is told, >basically like everyone else in
your boring, uninteresting life.
Obviously, you have no clue about my life. I had a very interesting youth filled with all kinds of interesting adventures, not all of which were the result of good judgement. The difference is that when I was done with that part of my life, I didn't run straight into the many arms of your (or any) bizarre cult because real life was to frightening.

At no time did I ever go through a phase where I believed in something so much that I felt the need to lie about it.

At no time did I ever deliberately say something untrue in order to try and win an argument. I have always been willing to consider other points of view and argue on the merits of the evidence, not on emotion.
There were times where my first reaction to something was emotional, but I have always tried to find enough objectivity to judge things on the facts.

I may be repulsed by certain actions and never have a desire to engage but, if those actions harm no others then I let those who do desire it, ALONE. I never figured I could convince someone by insulting them or lying about pertinent facts the way you do.
You don't even have the guts to >post under your real name here,
because then everyone could see >what a boring, nobody loser you >are.
I don't post under my real name? What's your name Jesper?


https://lastingimpression.info/another-gestapo-officer-found-in-denmark/

If this is your idea of not being a boring loser, you can keep it.

Hope that wasn't the Ganges river mud you had all over you.

Have you developed any immunity to the many deadly bacteria there?

😷 Stay the fuck at home.
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