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Creationism vs Intelligent Design
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Viktor Tandofsky
2021-02-01 11:15:56 UTC
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https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2005/05/creationism-vs-intelligent-design.html
Viktor Tandofsky
2021-02-01 11:29:59 UTC
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Post by Viktor Tandofsky
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2005/05/creationism-vs-intelligent-design.html
"Is Intelligent Design the same thing as Creationism?

No. Intelligent Design adherents believe only that the complexity of the natural world could not have occurred by chance. Some intelligent entity must have created the complexity, they reason, but that “designer” could in theory be anything or anyone."
hhya...@gmail.com
2021-02-01 12:29:23 UTC
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Post by Viktor Tandofsky
Post by Viktor Tandofsky
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2005/05/creationism-vs-intelligent-design.html
"Is Intelligent Design the same thing as Creationism?
No. Intelligent Design adherents believe only that the complexity of the natural world could not have occurred by chance. Some intelligent entity must have created the complexity, they reason, but that “designer” could in theory be anything or anyone."
This world has life forms for the last hundreds of thousands of years...
When did any one witness a designer or creator or a pixie??????

When?????????????????
JWS
2021-02-01 13:55:01 UTC
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Post by Viktor Tandofsky
Post by Viktor Tandofsky
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2005/05/creationism-vs-intelligent-design.html
"Is Intelligent Design the same thing as Creationism?
No. Intelligent Design adherents believe only that the complexity of the natural world could not have occurred by chance. Some intelligent entity must have created the complexity, they reason, but that “designer” could in theory be anything or anyone."
:1,$s/creationism/intelligent design/g
Christopher A. Lee
2021-02-01 14:15:53 UTC
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Post by Viktor Tandofsky
Post by Viktor Tandofsky
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2005/05/creationism-vs-intelligent-design.html
"Is Intelligent Design the same thing as Creationism?
No. Intelligent Design adherents believe only that the complexity of
the natural world could not have occurred by chance.
Why not?
Post by Viktor Tandofsky
Some intelligent entity must have created the complexity, they reason,
Argument from deliberate, self-imposed ignorance.
Post by Viktor Tandofsky
but that “designer” could in theory be anything or anyone."
What designer?
Post by Viktor Tandofsky
:1,$s/creationism/intelligent design/g
But it's a baseless belief that has been repeatedly debunked - and he
knows this.

He also knows that the only reason to believe this is because one was
previously a creationist, and pretends that this unevidenced designer
doesn't have to be the god they previously insisted was responsible.
Not to mention that complexity doesn't equal design, and that he knows
there is no way to determine design because he and the other design
loonies have had it explained over and over again.

Even the dishonest liars behind it admitted this. He was given their
own words a few posts ago.
_Kurt.Nicklas
2021-02-01 14:36:13 UTC
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On Mon, 01 Feb 2021 08:15:53 -0600, Christopher A. Lee
Post by Christopher A. Lee
Post by Viktor Tandofsky
Post by Viktor Tandofsky
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2005/05/creationism-vs-intelligent-design.html
"Is Intelligent Design the same thing as Creationism?
No. Intelligent Design adherents believe only that the complexity of
the natural world could not have occurred by chance.
Why not?
Post by Viktor Tandofsky
Some intelligent entity must have created the complexity, they reason,
Argument from deliberate, self-imposed ignorance.
Post by Viktor Tandofsky
but that “designer” could in theory be anything or anyone."
What designer?
Post by Viktor Tandofsky
:1,$s/creationism/intelligent design/g
But it's a baseless belief that has been repeatedly debunked - and he
knows this.
One of CHRISTopher's most laughable pretensions is that the mere fact
that he expresses disagreement with someone constitutes 'debunking' of
the other person's belief. When the other person continues,
nevertheless, to express his opinion, CHRISTopher insists that the
other 'knows' he is wrong.

LOL!
JWS
2021-02-01 15:38:03 UTC
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Post by _Kurt.Nicklas
On Mon, 01 Feb 2021 08:15:53 -0600, Christopher A. Lee
Post by Christopher A. Lee
Post by Viktor Tandofsky
Post by Viktor Tandofsky
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2005/05/creationism-vs-intelligent-design.html
"Is Intelligent Design the same thing as Creationism?
No. Intelligent Design adherents believe only that the complexity of
the natural world could not have occurred by chance.
Why not?
Post by Viktor Tandofsky
Some intelligent entity must have created the complexity, they reason,
Argument from deliberate, self-imposed ignorance.
Post by Viktor Tandofsky
but that “designer” could in theory be anything or anyone."
What designer?
Post by Viktor Tandofsky
:1,$s/creationism/intelligent design/g
But it's a baseless belief that has been repeatedly debunked - and he
knows this.
One of CHRISTopher's most laughable pretensions is that the mere fact
that he expresses disagreement with someone constitutes 'debunking' of
the other person's belief. When the other person continues,
nevertheless, to express his opinion, CHRISTopher insists that the
other 'knows' he is wrong.
LOL!
Christopher is proceeding with the knowledge of historical facts.
Here is something short enough that you might be able to
assimilate some knowledge.
https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna9601689
David Hartung
2021-02-03 01:17:57 UTC
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Post by _Kurt.Nicklas
On Mon, 01 Feb 2021 08:15:53 -0600, Christopher A. Lee
[...]
One of CHRISTopher's most laughable pretensions is that the mere fact
that he expresses disagreement with someone constitutes 'debunking' of
the other person's belief. When the other person continues,
nevertheless, to express his opinion, CHRISTopher insists that the
other 'knows' he is wrong.
LOL!
Intelligeng design says that humans were created when intelligent space
aliens fucked apes.

That's why it isn't in the bible.
David Hartung
2021-04-15 02:22:19 UTC
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Post by _Kurt.Nicklas
On Mon, 01 Feb 2021 08:15:53 -0600, Christopher A. Lee
[...]
One of CHRISTopher's most laughable pretensions is that the mere fact
that he expresses disagreement with someone constitutes 'debunking' of
the other person's belief. When the other person continues,
nevertheless, to express his opinion, CHRISTopher insists that the
other 'knows' he is wrong.
LOL!
Intelligeng design says that humans were created when intelligent space
aliens fucked apes.

That's why it isn't in the bible.
Viktor Tandofsky
2021-04-15 04:08:34 UTC
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Post by _Kurt.Nicklas
On Mon, 01 Feb 2021 08:15:53 -0600, Christopher A. Lee
Post by Christopher A. Lee
Post by Viktor Tandofsky
Post by Viktor Tandofsky
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2005/05/creationism-vs-intelligent-design.html
"Is Intelligent Design the same thing as Creationism?
No. Intelligent Design adherents believe only that the complexity of
the natural world could not have occurred by chance.
Why not?
Post by Viktor Tandofsky
Some intelligent entity must have created the complexity, they reason,
Argument from deliberate, self-imposed ignorance.
Post by Viktor Tandofsky
but that “designer” could in theory be anything or anyone."
What designer?
Post by Viktor Tandofsky
:1,$s/creationism/intelligent design/g
But it's a baseless belief that has been repeatedly debunked - and he
knows this.
One of CHRISTopher's most laughable pretensions is that the mere fact
that he expresses disagreement with someone constitutes 'debunking' of
the other person's belief. When the other person continues,
nevertheless, to express his opinion, CHRISTopher insists that the
other 'knows' he is wrong.
LOL!
Chrissy discounts his opposition by calling them all mentally ill.
hhya...@gmail.com
2021-04-15 08:53:15 UTC
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Post by _Kurt.Nicklas
On Mon, 01 Feb 2021 08:15:53 -0600, Christopher A. Lee
Post by Christopher A. Lee
Post by Viktor Tandofsky
Post by Viktor Tandofsky
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2005/05/creationism-vs-intelligent-design.html
"Is Intelligent Design the same thing as Creationism?
No. Intelligent Design adherents believe only that the complexity of
the natural world could not have occurred by chance.
Why not?
Post by Viktor Tandofsky
Some intelligent entity must have created the complexity, they reason,
Argument from deliberate, self-imposed ignorance.
Post by Viktor Tandofsky
but that “designer” could in theory be anything or anyone."
What designer?
Post by Viktor Tandofsky
:1,$s/creationism/intelligent design/g
But it's a baseless belief that has been repeatedly debunked - and he
knows this.
One of CHRISTopher's most laughable pretensions is that the mere fact
that he expresses disagreement with someone constitutes 'debunking' of
the other person's belief. When the other person continues,
nevertheless, to express his opinion, CHRISTopher insists that the
other 'knows' he is wrong.
You racist and Mad Joe are always locked onto lies and fake information!
David Hartung
2021-04-24 12:43:17 UTC
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Post by _Kurt.Nicklas
On Mon, 01 Feb 2021 08:15:53 -0600, Christopher A. Lee
[...]
One of CHRISTopher's most laughable pretensions is that the mere fact
that he expresses disagreement with someone constitutes 'debunking' of
the other person's belief. When the other person continues,
nevertheless, to express his opinion, CHRISTopher insists that the
other 'knows' he is wrong.
LOL!
Intelligeng design says that humans were created when intelligent space
aliens fucked apes.

That's why it isn't in the bible.

Kelsey Bjarnason
2021-02-03 20:16:29 UTC
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Post by Christopher A. Lee
Post by Viktor Tandofsky
Post by Viktor Tandofsky
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2005/05/creationism-vs-intelligent-design.html
"Is Intelligent Design the same thing as Creationism?
No. Intelligent Design adherents believe only that the complexity of
the natural world could not have occurred by chance.
Why not?
The real question is, who says it all occurred "by
chance"?

[snip remainder]
JWS
2021-02-04 00:44:05 UTC
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Post by Kelsey Bjarnason
Post by Christopher A. Lee
Post by Viktor Tandofsky
Post by Viktor Tandofsky
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2005/05/creationism-vs-intelligent-design.html
"Is Intelligent Design the same thing as Creationism?
No. Intelligent Design adherents believe only that the complexity of
the natural world could not have occurred by chance.
Why not?
The real question is, who says it all occurred "by
chance"?
[snip remainder]
The real question is what kind of fasteners did he use?
Viktor Tandofsky
2021-04-15 04:38:08 UTC
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Post by Christopher A. Lee
Post by Viktor Tandofsky
Post by Viktor Tandofsky
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2005/05/creationism-vs-intelligent-design.html
"Is Intelligent Design the same thing as Creationism?
No. Intelligent Design adherents believe only that the complexity of
the natural world could not have occurred by chance.
Why not?
Post by Viktor Tandofsky
Some intelligent entity must have created the complexity, they reason,
Argument from deliberate, self-imposed ignorance.
Post by Viktor Tandofsky
but that “designer” could in theory be anything or anyone."
What designer?
Post by Viktor Tandofsky
:1,$s/creationism/intelligent design/g
But it's a baseless belief that has been repeatedly debunked - and he
knows this.
He also knows that the only reason to believe this is because one was
previously a creationist, and pretends that this unevidenced designer
doesn't have to be the god they previously insisted was responsible.
Not to mention that complexity doesn't equal design, and that he knows
there is no way to determine design because he and the other design
loonies have had it explained over and over again.
You are a chronic liar. Your explanations are worthless.
Post by Christopher A. Lee
Even the dishonest liars behind it admitted this. He was given their
own words a few posts ago.
ID is a theory, jackass, not a fact. It cannot be a lie.
Cloud Hobbit
2021-04-16 22:44:55 UTC
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Post by Viktor Tandofsky
Post by Christopher A. Lee
Post by Viktor Tandofsky
Post by Viktor Tandofsky
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2005/05/creationism-vs-intelligent-design.html
"Is Intelligent Design the same thing as Creationism?
No. Intelligent Design adherents believe only that the complexity of
the natural world could not have occurred by chance.
Why not?
Post by Viktor Tandofsky
Some intelligent entity must have created the complexity, they reason,
Argument from deliberate, self-imposed ignorance.
Post by Viktor Tandofsky
but that “designer” could in theory be anything or anyone."
What designer?
Post by Viktor Tandofsky
:1,$s/creationism/intelligent design/g
But it's a baseless belief that has been repeatedly debunked - and he
knows this.
He also knows that the only reason to believe this is because one was
previously a creationist, and pretends that this unevidenced designer
doesn't have to be the god they previously insisted was responsible.
Not to mention that complexity doesn't equal design, and that he knows
there is no way to determine design because he and the other design
loonies have had it explained over and over again.
You are a chronic liar. Your explanations are worthless.
Post by Christopher A. Lee
Even the dishonest liars behind it admitted this. He was given their
own words a few posts ago.
ID is a theory, jackass, not a fact. It cannot be a lie.
Why not? It ticks all or most of the boxes for what
constitutes a lie.
Intent to deceive.
False or exaggerated claims often based
on outdated science.
For a theory to be true it must explain some
part of reality. ID does not explain anything
other than its proponents wishful thinking.
It's not testable.
It makes no predictions.
No non-religious scientific organization recognizes
ID as anything else than pseudoscience.
Catholic universities excluded. They teach evolution.

Even proponents of ID do not discard Evolution,
they claim only that certain aspects of life
require an intelligent designer unfortunately, they
have no evidence of a designer and no way to determine
with certainty what was designed and all the examples they
have used were all proven false.

You've been given all this information many times.
You have never provided evidence that ID is
a theory or any non-theist who supports it.

In short, you have what you always have,
Nothing.


There are no gods unless we create them.
Malcolm McMahon
2021-02-01 13:59:28 UTC
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Post by Viktor Tandofsky
Post by Viktor Tandofsky
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2005/05/creationism-vs-intelligent-design.html
"Is Intelligent Design the same thing as Creationism?
No. Intelligent Design adherents believe only that the complexity of the
natural world could not have occurred by chance. Some intelligent entity must
have created the complexity, they reason, but that “designer” could in
theory be anything or anyone."
It would require most of the aspects of a God though.
Viktor Tandofsky
2021-04-15 04:07:17 UTC
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Post by Malcolm McMahon
Post by Viktor Tandofsky
Post by Viktor Tandofsky
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2005/05/creationism-vs-intelligent-design.html
"Is Intelligent Design the same thing as Creationism?
No. Intelligent Design adherents believe only that the complexity of the
natural world could not have occurred by chance. Some intelligent entity must
have created the complexity, they reason, but that “designer” could in
theory be anything or anyone."
It would require most of the aspects of a God though.
YOU SAID THERE IS NO GOD. You just contradicted yourself.
Ted
2021-04-16 21:30:50 UTC
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On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 21:07:17 -0700 (PDT), Viktor Tandofsky
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It would require most of the aspects of a God though.
YOU SAID THERE IS NO GOD. You just
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No he didn't, you irrational buffoon.
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