Post by Tim Post by Michael Christ Post by Yap Honghor Post by Michael Christ Post by ravn Post by Michael Christ
Name me one thing that created itself.
Whatever arises from the interaction of matter & energy
Matter and energy did not create itself.
Ya, no...the nature did!!!!!!
Nature didn't create itself.
How do you know that nature hasn't always been?
Because the universe is ruled over by time. It ages. Not eternal, so
everything in it is not eternal.
Nothing in it has 'always been'. You are postulating that you have
always been. 60 years or so you know about it, forever you didn't??
Think about it.
Post by Tim Post by Michael Christ
And unlike an Eternal God, it changes.
Show me a religious concept of god(s) that hasn't changed.
If you are talking about man made religious concepts, they change all
the time. But God doesn't change.
Post by Tim
You can't. There are no gods, they are just your lame hopes, christer bitch.
You are here. You did not come about from nothing freakazoiding to
create itself and you in the process plus a few other gzillion things in
DNA is design at a level we can't even imagine. I want you to imagine
yourself as pin head, :-), sitting on top of Mt Everest, which sits on
the planet, in our solar system, in our universe. That is you compared
to God and you speak.
Just stop for a moment, don't think bible, think what is the essence,
the truth...like what people do in a Shakespeare novel...
I have combined a few translations so you an get the idea, this is God
speaking to Job who has been wrestling with God about his fate...
Job 42:3 Who is this that darkens and obscures counsel [by words]
Then Job says...
Therefore [I now see] I have [rashly] uttered what I did not understand,
things too wonderful for me, which I did not know. [Job 38:2.]
Remember, pin-head verses universe.
God is still not happy, and says to Job...
Job 42:4 'Who is this muddying the water, ignorantly confusing the
issue, second-guessing my purposes?' I will speak; I will demand of
You, and You declare to me.
That is when Job realised.
Job 42:5 I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine
eye seeth thee.
Job 42:6 Wherefore I abhor myself, and repent in dust and ashes.
This is not about the polluted religious paradigm you have in your head
as in man made fucked up religion. It is about the truth. Life without
truth is death.
You are all men who speak rashly, idly, without respect and without
knowledge and think there are no consequences???!!! Look what you have
in the White House now!!!