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! The modal Ontological Argument (The Introduction)
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Kurt Nicklas
2020-05-20 14:38:23 UTC
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Yap Honghor
2020-05-21 01:37:43 UTC
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According to this twisted logic and insane mental argument, unicorn certainly exists in our world too!!!!

I am sure you concur!
Kurt Nicklas
2020-05-21 03:25:11 UTC
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http://youtu.be/RQPRqHZRP68
According to this twisted logic and insane mental argument, unicorn certainly exists in our world too!!!!
Yes there's a unicorn running the Chinese Communist Party.
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I am sure you concur!
I concur that you're a little WuMao.

Aren't you?
Kevrob
2020-05-21 04:08:07 UTC
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http://youtu.be/RQPRqHZRP68
According to this twisted logic and insane mental argument, unicorn certainly exists in our world too!!!!
Yes there's a unicorn running the Chinese Communist Party.
Post by Yap Honghor
I am sure you concur!
I concur that you're a little WuMao.
Aren't you?
Curdles trolls with another PRaTT.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Ontological_argument

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Ivan The Terrible
2020-05-21 04:13:18 UTC
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http://youtu.be/RQPRqHZRP68
According to this twisted logic and insane mental argument, unicorn certainly exists in our world too!!!!
Yes there's a unicorn running the Chinese Communist Party.
Post by Yap Honghor
I am sure you concur!
I concur that you're a little WuMao.
Aren't you?
Curdles trolls with another PRaTT.
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Ontological_argument
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LOL! You didn't even have time to watch Kurt's video. You assumed what is in it. So much for my latent thoughts of you as somewhat honest.
Kevrob
2020-05-21 05:34:53 UTC
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http://youtu.be/RQPRqHZRP68
According to this twisted logic and insane mental argument, unicorn certainly exists in our world too!!!!
Yes there's a unicorn running the Chinese Communist Party.
Post by Yap Honghor
I am sure you concur!
I concur that you're a little WuMao.
Aren't you?
Curdles trolls with another PRaTT.
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Ontological_argument
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Kevin R
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LOL! You didn't even have time to watch Kurt's video.
You assumed what is in it. So much for my latent thoughts
of you as somewhat honest.
He, and you, troll here. Your posts don't deserve any respect.

The poster uses "inspiringphilosophy.org" a site that doesn't
tell us anything about who they are, except that they are a
"Christian apologetics ministry." The site pushes the likes
of William Lane Craig, for ghu's sake!

I first heard of the ontological argument in undergraduate
theology class over 40 years ago (Anselm's "proof.")
It doesn't bear further notice, especially after Augustine
poleaxed it.

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Yap Honghor
2020-05-21 10:18:55 UTC
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http://youtu.be/RQPRqHZRP68
According to this twisted logic and insane mental argument, unicorn certainly exists in our world too!!!!
Yes there's a unicorn running the Chinese Communist Party.
Post by Yap Honghor
I am sure you concur!
I concur that you're a little WuMao.
Aren't you?
Curdles trolls with another PRaTT.
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Ontological_argument
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Kevin R
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LOL! You didn't even have time to watch Kurt's video. You assumed what is in it. So much for my latent thoughts of you as somewhat honest.
Funny...how do you know Kevin hasn't watched the video????????
Kurt Nicklas
2020-05-21 05:02:22 UTC
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http://youtu.be/RQPRqHZRP68
According to this twisted logic and insane mental argument, unicorn certainly exists in our world too!!!!
Yes there's a unicorn running the Chinese Communist Party.
Post by Yap Honghor
I am sure you concur!
I concur that you're a little WuMao.
Aren't you?
Curdles trolls with another PRaTT.
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Ontological_argument
Kev behaves as usual...scream 'Troll!' and then...

https://tinyurl.com/RunAwaaay
Kevrob
2020-05-21 05:39:50 UTC
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Curdles trolls with another PRaTT.
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Ontological_argument
Kev behaves as usual...scream 'Troll!' and then...
https://tinyurl.com/RunAwaaay
My minstrels say I _bravely_ fled.

Proselytizers are trolls here.

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Kurt Nicklas
2020-05-21 05:49:56 UTC
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http://youtu.be/RQPRqHZRP68
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Curdles trolls with another PRaTT.
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Ontological_argument
Kev behaves as usual...scream 'Troll!' and then...
https://tinyurl.com/RunAwaaay
My minstrels say I _bravely_ fled.
Proselytizers are trolls here.
As you well know, I reject your censorship of this group based on a 'charter'.

As you well know, alt newsgroups are now and always have been free and open to all.

As you well know, I continue to suggest if you want to censor postings to a group that you go somewhere else.

As you well know, I will post what I want and when I want here and I really don't give a flip what you think, Kev.

Don't waste bytes screaming.
Ivan The Terrible
2020-05-21 10:23:07 UTC
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http://youtu.be/RQPRqHZRP68
According to this twisted logic and insane mental argument, unicorn certainly exists in our world too!!!!
Yes there's a unicorn running the Chinese Communist Party.
Post by Yap Honghor
I am sure you concur!
I concur that you're a little WuMao.
Aren't you?
Curdles trolls with another PRaTT.
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Ontological_argument
Kev behaves as usual...scream 'Troll!' and then...
https://tinyurl.com/RunAwaaay
When he left the Catholic Church, I'll bet his priest and congregation celebrated for a fucking month.
Yap Honghor
2020-05-21 10:17:03 UTC
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http://youtu.be/RQPRqHZRP68
According to this twisted logic and insane mental argument, unicorn certainly exists in our world too!!!!
Yes there's a unicorn running the Chinese Communist Party.
You really have nothing up your sleeve....
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Post by Yap Honghor
I am sure you concur!
I concur that you're a little WuMao.
You are going to take duke's place as a redneck!
Kurt Nicklas
2020-05-21 10:21:05 UTC
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Post by Kurt Nicklas
http://youtu.be/RQPRqHZRP68
According to this twisted logic and insane mental argument, unicorn certainly exists in our world too!!!!
Yes there's a unicorn running the Chinese Communist Party.
You really have nothing up your sleeve....
Among other things, I have the fact that you're a WuMao for the CCP.

Right?
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Post by Kurt Nicklas
Post by Yap Honghor
I am sure you concur!
I concur that you're a little WuMao.
You are going to take duke's place as a redneck!
And you'll be the chief WuMao of this newsgroup?
Dreamer In Colore
2020-05-22 03:16:59 UTC
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Post by Kurt Nicklas
http://youtu.be/RQPRqHZRP68
According to this twisted logic and insane mental argument, unicorn certainly exists in our world too!!!!
Yes there's a unicorn running the Chinese Communist Party.
You really have nothing up your sleeve....
Among other things, I have the fact that you're a WuMao for the CCP.
Right?
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Post by Kurt Nicklas
Post by Yap Honghor
I am sure you concur!
I concur that you're a little WuMao.
You are going to take duke's place as a redneck!
And you'll be the chief WuMao of this newsgroup?
Any particular reason you need to parade your bigotry as well as your
inability to understand that a thousand year old argument has been
comprehensively debunked?

You can't even formulate an original argument on your own; you're
reduced to this? It's sad.
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Ivan The Terrible
2020-05-22 03:30:09 UTC
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Post by Kurt Nicklas
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Post by Kurt Nicklas
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by Kurt Nicklas
http://youtu.be/RQPRqHZRP68
According to this twisted logic and insane mental argument, unicorn certainly exists in our world too!!!!
Yes there's a unicorn running the Chinese Communist Party.
You really have nothing up your sleeve....
Among other things, I have the fact that you're a WuMao for the CCP.
Right?
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by Kurt Nicklas
Post by Yap Honghor
I am sure you concur!
I concur that you're a little WuMao.
You are going to take duke's place as a redneck!
And you'll be the chief WuMao of this newsgroup?
Any particular reason you need to parade your bigotry as well as your
inability to understand that a thousand year old argument has been
comprehensively debunked?
Talk, talk, talk. So far, I have seen nothing debunked.;
Kurt Nicklas
2020-05-22 05:51:12 UTC
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On Thu, 21 May 2020 03:21:05 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Nicklas
Post by Kurt Nicklas
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by Kurt Nicklas
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by Kurt Nicklas
http://youtu.be/RQPRqHZRP68
According to this twisted logic and insane mental argument, unicorn certainly exists in our world too!!!!
Yes there's a unicorn running the Chinese Communist Party.
You really have nothing up your sleeve....
Among other things, I have the fact that you're a WuMao for the CCP.
Right?
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by Kurt Nicklas
Post by Yap Honghor
I am sure you concur!
I concur that you're a little WuMao.
You are going to take duke's place as a redneck!
And you'll be the chief WuMao of this newsgroup?
Any particular reason you need to parade your bigotry as well as your
inability to understand that a thousand year old argument has been
comprehensively debunked?
Talk, talk, talk. So far, I have seen nothing debunked.;
Don't bother him. He's dreaming...
Dreamer In Colore
2020-05-22 17:16:35 UTC
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Post by Kurt Nicklas
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Post by Kurt Nicklas
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Post by Kurt Nicklas
http://youtu.be/RQPRqHZRP68
According to this twisted logic and insane mental argument, unicorn certainly exists in our world too!!!!
Yes there's a unicorn running the Chinese Communist Party.
You really have nothing up your sleeve....
Among other things, I have the fact that you're a WuMao for the CCP.
Right?
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Post by Kurt Nicklas
Post by Yap Honghor
I am sure you concur!
I concur that you're a little WuMao.
You are going to take duke's place as a redneck!
And you'll be the chief WuMao of this newsgroup?
Any particular reason you need to parade your bigotry as well as your
inability to understand that a thousand year old argument has been
comprehensively debunked?
Talk, talk, talk. So far, I have seen nothing debunked.;
That's because you can't be bothered to do research.

Perfectly fine; I'm happy to point it out to you.

Thomas Aquinas pointed out that since mortals cannot know the nature
of God (never mind the inherent fallacy in that), the initial
presuppositions of Anselm are flawed. This is a little too esoteric,
so I prefer Hume's concept that just because you can conceive of a god
existing, doesn't necessarily imply that the god does in fact exist.

You can look up Kant's Critique of Pure Reason for another counter to
the ontological argument, though I suspect you're going to find it
challenging. I'm looking forward to your reasoned discussion of this
topic.

Plenty more refutation here:

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Ontological_argument

Do you not know how to use Google?
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donkeys until I realized how many jackasses I was arguing with here."
- Marvin Sebourn
Kurt Nicklas
2020-05-22 17:27:15 UTC
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On Thu, 21 May 2020 03:21:05 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Nicklas
Post by Kurt Nicklas
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by Kurt Nicklas
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by Kurt Nicklas
http://youtu.be/RQPRqHZRP68
According to this twisted logic and insane mental argument, unicorn certainly exists in our world too!!!!
Yes there's a unicorn running the Chinese Communist Party.
You really have nothing up your sleeve....
Among other things, I have the fact that you're a WuMao for the CCP.
Right?
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by Kurt Nicklas
Post by Yap Honghor
I am sure you concur!
I concur that you're a little WuMao.
You are going to take duke's place as a redneck!
And you'll be the chief WuMao of this newsgroup?
Any particular reason you need to parade your bigotry as well as your
inability to understand that a thousand year old argument has been
comprehensively debunked?
Talk, talk, talk. So far, I have seen nothing debunked.;
That's because you can't be bothered to do research.
Perfectly fine; I'm happy to point it out to you.
Thomas Aquinas pointed out that since mortals cannot know the nature
of God (never mind the inherent fallacy in that), the initial
presuppositions of Anselm are flawed. This is a little too esoteric,
so I prefer Hume's concept that just because you can conceive of a god
existing, doesn't necessarily imply that the god does in fact exist.
You can look up Kant's Critique of Pure Reason for another counter to
the ontological argument, though I suspect you're going to find it
challenging. I'm looking forward to your reasoned discussion of this
topic.
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Ontological_argument
Do you not know how to use Google?
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Kurt Nicklas
2020-05-22 17:37:53 UTC
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On Thu, 21 May 2020 03:21:05 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Nicklas
Post by Kurt Nicklas
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by Kurt Nicklas
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by Kurt Nicklas
http://youtu.be/RQPRqHZRP68
According to this twisted logic and insane mental argument, unicorn certainly exists in our world too!!!!
Yes there's a unicorn running the Chinese Communist Party.
You really have nothing up your sleeve....
Among other things, I have the fact that you're a WuMao for the CCP.
Right?
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by Kurt Nicklas
Post by Yap Honghor
I am sure you concur!
I concur that you're a little WuMao.
You are going to take duke's place as a redneck!
And you'll be the chief WuMao of this newsgroup?
Any particular reason you need to parade your bigotry as well as your
inability to understand that a thousand year old argument has been
comprehensively debunked?
Talk, talk, talk. So far, I have seen nothing debunked.;
That's because you can't be bothered to do research.
Perfectly fine; I'm happy to point it out to you.
Thomas Aquinas pointed out that since mortals cannot know the nature
of God (never mind the inherent fallacy in that), the initial
presuppositions of Anselm are flawed.
Aquinas also believed that we *could* know God as the Necessary Cause of
all that we observe, so for an atheist like you to be quoting
St. Thomas Aquinas is a bit weird.
Post by Dreamer In Colore
This is a little too esoteric,
so I prefer Hume's concept that just because you can conceive of a god
existing, doesn't necessarily imply that the god does in fact exist.
And for an atheist - and hence a materialist - to rely on Hume is equally
strange. "Whatever we conceive as existent, we can also conceive as non-existent. There is no being, therefore, whose non-existence implies a contradiction."
LinuxGal
2020-05-22 18:22:26 UTC
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And for an atheist - and hence a materialist - to rely on
Hume is equally strange. "Whatever we conceive as
existent, we can also conceive as non-existent. There is
no being, therefore, whose non-existence implies a
contradiction."
Kant rejected existence or non-existence a properties of a
thing. First you have a thing, then you can describe its
properties. If you don't have a thing, you're done.
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Ivan The Terrible
2020-05-22 21:55:24 UTC
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On Thu, 21 May 2020 03:21:05 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Nicklas
Post by Kurt Nicklas
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by Kurt Nicklas
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by Kurt Nicklas
http://youtu.be/RQPRqHZRP68
According to this twisted logic and insane mental argument, unicorn certainly exists in our world too!!!!
Yes there's a unicorn running the Chinese Communist Party.
You really have nothing up your sleeve....
Among other things, I have the fact that you're a WuMao for the CCP.
Right?
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by Kurt Nicklas
Post by Yap Honghor
I am sure you concur!
I concur that you're a little WuMao.
You are going to take duke's place as a redneck!
And you'll be the chief WuMao of this newsgroup?
Any particular reason you need to parade your bigotry as well as your
inability to understand that a thousand year old argument has been
comprehensively debunked?
Talk, talk, talk. So far, I have seen nothing debunked.;
That's because you can't be bothered to do research.
Perfectly fine; I'm happy to point it out to you.
Thomas Aquinas pointed out that since mortals cannot know the nature
of God (never mind the inherent fallacy in that), the initial
presuppositions of Anselm are flawed.
Aquinas also believed that we *could* know God as the Necessary Cause of
all that we observe, so for an atheist like you to be quoting
St. Thomas Aquinas is a bit weird.
Post by Dreamer In Colore
This is a little too esoteric,
so I prefer Hume's concept that just because you can conceive of a god
existing, doesn't necessarily imply that the god does in fact exist.
And for an atheist - and hence a materialist - to rely on Hume is equally
strange. "Whatever we conceive as existent, we can also conceive as non-existent. There is no being, therefore, whose non-existence implies a contradiction."
I want to ask you something. I know you believe in God. Were you ever Russian Orthodox?
Yap Honghor
2020-05-23 00:13:54 UTC
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On Thu, 21 May 2020 03:21:05 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Nicklas
Post by Kurt Nicklas
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by Kurt Nicklas
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by Kurt Nicklas
http://youtu.be/RQPRqHZRP68
According to this twisted logic and insane mental argument, unicorn certainly exists in our world too!!!!
Yes there's a unicorn running the Chinese Communist Party.
You really have nothing up your sleeve....
Among other things, I have the fact that you're a WuMao for the CCP.
Right?
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by Kurt Nicklas
Post by Yap Honghor
I am sure you concur!
I concur that you're a little WuMao.
You are going to take duke's place as a redneck!
And you'll be the chief WuMao of this newsgroup?
Any particular reason you need to parade your bigotry as well as your
inability to understand that a thousand year old argument has been
comprehensively debunked?
Talk, talk, talk. So far, I have seen nothing debunked.;
That's because you can't be bothered to do research.
Perfectly fine; I'm happy to point it out to you.
Thomas Aquinas pointed out that since mortals cannot know the nature
of God (never mind the inherent fallacy in that), the initial
presuppositions of Anselm are flawed.
Aquinas also believed that we *could* know God as the Necessary Cause of
all that we observe, so for an atheist like you to be quoting
St. Thomas Aquinas is a bit weird.
Post by Dreamer In Colore
This is a little too esoteric,
so I prefer Hume's concept that just because you can conceive of a god
existing, doesn't necessarily imply that the god does in fact exist.
And for an atheist - and hence a materialist - to rely on Hume is equally
strange. "Whatever we conceive as existent, we can also conceive as non-existent. There is no being, therefore, whose non-existence implies a contradiction."
I want to ask you something. I know you believe in God. Were you ever Russian Orthodox?
Ya, he is a funny one at that...
Cloud Hobbit
2020-05-22 20:22:05 UTC
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Post by Kurt Nicklas
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by Kurt Nicklas
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by Kurt Nicklas
http://youtu.be/RQPRqHZRP68
According to this twisted logic and insane mental argument, unicorn certainly exists in our world too!!!!
Yes there's a unicorn running the Chinese Communist Party.
You really have nothing up your sleeve....
Among other things, I have the fact that you're a WuMao for the CCP.
Right?
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by Kurt Nicklas
Post by Yap Honghor
I am sure you concur!
I concur that you're a little WuMao.
You are going to take duke's place as a redneck!
And you'll be the chief WuMao of this newsgroup?
Any particular reason you need to parade your bigotry as well as your
inability to understand that a thousand year old argument has been
comprehensively debunked?
Talk, talk, talk. So far, I have seen nothing debunked.;
http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/god.html
Every argument for God and every attribute ascribed to Him rests on a false metaphysical premise. None can survive for a moment on a correct metaphysics.

For instance, God is infinite. Nothing can be infinite, according to the Law of Identity. Everything is what it is, and nothing else. It is limited in its qualities and in its quantity: it is this much, and no more. “Infinite” as applied to quantity does not mean “very large”: it means “larger than any specific quantity.” That means: no specific quantity—i.e., a quantity without identity. This is prohibited by the Law of Identity.

Is God the creator of the universe? There can be no creation of something out of nothing. There is no nothing.

Is God omnipotent? Can he do anything? Entities can act only in accordance with their natures; nothing can make them violate their natures . . .

“God” as traditionally defined is a systematic contradiction of every valid metaphysical principle. The point is wider than just the Judeo-Christian concept of God. No argument will get you from this world to a supernatural world. No reason will lead you to a world contradicting this one. No method of inference will enable you to leap from existence to a “super-existence.”
Automatic
2020-05-22 20:42:20 UTC
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Every argument for God and every attribute ascribed to Him rests on a false metaphysical premise. None can survive for a moment on a correct metaphysics.
There are several various philosophical definitions as to what constitutes a deity, not all of them are identical.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
For instance, God is infinite.
Not every definition uses that as a foundational piece.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Nothing can be infinite, according to the Law of Identity.
Your stupidity seems to be.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Everything is what it is, and nothing else.
Is what you typed there doubletalk?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God the creator of the universe? There can be no creation of something out of nothing. There is no nothing.
There doesn't appear to be a current way people can determine that for sure, is there?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God omnipotent? Can he do anything? Entities can act only in accordance with their natures; nothing can make them violate their natures . . .
“God” as traditionally defined is a systematic contradiction of every valid metaphysical principle. The point is wider than just the Judeo-Christian concept of God. No argument will get you from this world to a supernatural world. No reason will lead you to a world contradicting this one. No method of inference will enable you to leap from existence to a “super-existence.”
Nonsense. Some people posit higher dimension,s etc. That could be closer to what some religious types state as transcendent, for example.
In my particular religion, it is known as exalted, a deity in what that 'transcendence' is.
Automatic
2020-05-22 20:45:08 UTC
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Every argument for God and every attribute ascribed to Him rests on a false metaphysical premise. None can survive for a moment on a correct metaphysics.
There are several various philosophical definitions as to what constitutes a deity, not all of them are identical.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
For instance, God is infinite.
Not every definition uses that as a foundational piece.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Nothing can be infinite, according to the Law of Identity.
Your stupidity seems to be.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Everything is what it is, and nothing else.
Is what you typed there doubletalk?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God the creator of the universe? There can be no creation of something out of nothing. There is no nothing.
There doesn't appear to be a current way people can determine that for sure, is there?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God omnipotent? Can he do anything? Entities can act only in accordance with their natures; nothing can make them violate their natures . . .
“God” as traditionally defined is a systematic contradiction of every valid metaphysical principle. The point is wider than just the Judeo-Christian concept of God. No argument will get you from this world to a supernatural world. No reason will lead you to a world contradicting this one. No method of inference will enable you to leap from existence to a “super-existence.”
Nonsense. Some people posit higher dimension,s etc. That could be closer to what some religious types state as transcendent, for example.
In my particular religion, it is known as exalted, a deity in what that 'transcendence' is.
Automatic
2020-05-22 20:46:04 UTC
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Every argument for God and every attribute ascribed to Him rests on a false metaphysical premise. None can survive for a moment on a correct metaphysics.
There are several various philosophical definitions as to what constitutes a deity, not all of them are identical.
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For instance, God is infinite.
Not every definition uses that as a foundational piece.
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Nothing can be infinite, according to the Law of Identity.
Your stupidity seems to be.
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Everything is what it is, and nothing else.
Is what you typed there doubletalk?
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Is God the creator of the universe? There can be no creation of something out of nothing. There is no nothing.
There doesn't appear to be a current way people can determine that for sure, is there?
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Is God omnipotent? Can he do anything? Entities can act only in accordance with their natures; nothing can make them violate their natures . . .
“God” as traditionally defined is a systematic contradiction of every valid metaphysical principle. The point is wider than just the Judeo-Christian concept of God. No argument will get you from this world to a supernatural world. No reason will lead you to a world contradicting this one. No method of inference will enable you to leap from existence to a “super-existence.”
Nonsense. Some people posit higher dimensions, etc. That could be closer to what some religious types state as transcendent, for example.
In my particular religion, it is known as exalted, a deity in what that 'transcendence' is.
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2020-05-22 21:19:31 UTC
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Every argument for God and every attribute ascribed to Him rests on a false metaphysical premise. None can survive for a moment on a correct metaphysics.
There are several various philosophical definitions as to what constitutes a deity, not all of them are identical.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
For instance, God is infinite.
Not every definition uses that as a foundational piece.
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Nothing can be infinite, according to the Law of Identity.
Your stupidity seems to be.
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Everything is what it is, and nothing else.
Is what you typed there doubletalk?
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Is God the creator of the universe? There can be no creation of something out of nothing. There is no nothing.
There doesn't appear to be a current way people can determine that for sure, is there?
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Is God omnipotent? Can he do anything? Entities can act only in accordance with their natures; nothing can make them violate their natures . . .
“God” as traditionally defined is a systematic contradiction of every valid metaphysical principle. The point is wider than just the Judeo-Christian concept of God. No argument will get you from this world to a supernatural world. No reason will lead you to a world contradicting this one. No method of inference will enable you to leap from existence to a “super-existence.”
Nonsense. Some people posit higher dimensions, etc. That could be closer to what some religious types state as transcendent, for example.
In my particular religion, it is known as exalted, a deity in what that 'transcendence' is.
i told you i am god
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2020-05-22 22:30:16 UTC
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Every argument for God and every attribute ascribed to Him rests on a false metaphysical premise. None can survive for a moment on a correct metaphysics.
There are several various philosophical definitions as to what constitutes a deity, not all of them are identical.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
For instance, God is infinite.
Not every definition uses that as a foundational piece.
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Nothing can be infinite, according to the Law of Identity.
Your stupidity seems to be.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Everything is what it is, and nothing else.
Is what you typed there doubletalk?
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Is God the creator of the universe? There can be no creation of something out of nothing. There is no nothing.
There doesn't appear to be a current way people can determine that for sure, is there?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God omnipotent? Can he do anything? Entities can act only in accordance with their natures; nothing can make them violate their natures . . .
“God” as traditionally defined is a systematic contradiction of every valid metaphysical principle. The point is wider than just the Judeo-Christian concept of God. No argument will get you from this world to a supernatural world. No reason will lead you to a world contradicting this one. No method of inference will enable you to leap from existence to a “super-existence.”
Nonsense. Some people posit higher dimensions, etc. That could be closer to what some religious types state as transcendent, for example.
In my particular religion, it is known as exalted, a deity in what that 'transcendence' is.
i told you i am god
Yet I already know for a fact you are lying.
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2020-05-22 22:36:02 UTC
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Every argument for God and every attribute ascribed to Him rests on a false metaphysical premise. None can survive for a moment on a correct metaphysics.
There are several various philosophical definitions as to what constitutes a deity, not all of them are identical.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
For instance, God is infinite.
Not every definition uses that as a foundational piece.
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Nothing can be infinite, according to the Law of Identity.
Your stupidity seems to be.
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Everything is what it is, and nothing else.
Is what you typed there doubletalk?
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Is God the creator of the universe? There can be no creation of something out of nothing. There is no nothing.
There doesn't appear to be a current way people can determine that for sure, is there?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God omnipotent? Can he do anything? Entities can act only in accordance with their natures; nothing can make them violate their natures . . .
“God” as traditionally defined is a systematic contradiction of every valid metaphysical principle. The point is wider than just the Judeo-Christian concept of God. No argument will get you from this world to a supernatural world. No reason will lead you to a world contradicting this one. No method of inference will enable you to leap from existence to a “super-existence.”
Nonsense. Some people posit higher dimensions, etc. That could be closer to what some religious types state as transcendent, for example.
In my particular religion, it is known as exalted, a deity in what that 'transcendence' is.
i told you i am god
Yet I already know for a fact you are lying.
it doesn't matter if i am or not i believe me
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2020-05-22 23:45:57 UTC
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Every argument for God and every attribute ascribed to Him rests on a false metaphysical premise. None can survive for a moment on a correct metaphysics.
There are several various philosophical definitions as to what constitutes a deity, not all of them are identical.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
For instance, God is infinite.
Not every definition uses that as a foundational piece.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Nothing can be infinite, according to the Law of Identity.
Your stupidity seems to be.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Everything is what it is, and nothing else.
Is what you typed there doubletalk?
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Is God the creator of the universe? There can be no creation of something out of nothing. There is no nothing.
There doesn't appear to be a current way people can determine that for sure, is there?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God omnipotent? Can he do anything? Entities can act only in accordance with their natures; nothing can make them violate their natures . . .
“God” as traditionally defined is a systematic contradiction of every valid metaphysical principle. The point is wider than just the Judeo-Christian concept of God. No argument will get you from this world to a supernatural world. No reason will lead you to a world contradicting this one. No method of inference will enable you to leap from existence to a “super-existence.”
Nonsense. Some people posit higher dimensions, etc. That could be closer to what some religious types state as transcendent, for example.
In my particular religion, it is known as exalted, a deity in what that 'transcendence' is.
i told you i am god
Yet I already know for a fact you are lying.
it doesn't matter if i am or not i believe me
So you truly believe your lie that you are a god.
I seriously doubt a deity would spend time arguing on usenet about inane and irrelevant things that are sometimes downright silly.
Now mind you I am not stating a deity couldn't post to usenet, as I would not want to put limits on them like that, merely since being there on usenet, they wouldn't be doing what you are doing on usenet.
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2020-05-22 23:57:05 UTC
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Every argument for God and every attribute ascribed to Him rests on a false metaphysical premise. None can survive for a moment on a correct metaphysics.
There are several various philosophical definitions as to what constitutes a deity, not all of them are identical.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
For instance, God is infinite.
Not every definition uses that as a foundational piece.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Nothing can be infinite, according to the Law of Identity.
Your stupidity seems to be.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Everything is what it is, and nothing else.
Is what you typed there doubletalk?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God the creator of the universe? There can be no creation of something out of nothing. There is no nothing.
There doesn't appear to be a current way people can determine that for sure, is there?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God omnipotent? Can he do anything? Entities can act only in accordance with their natures; nothing can make them violate their natures . . .
“God” as traditionally defined is a systematic contradiction of every valid metaphysical principle. The point is wider than just the Judeo-Christian concept of God. No argument will get you from this world to a supernatural world. No reason will lead you to a world contradicting this one. No method of inference will enable you to leap from existence to a “super-existence.”
Nonsense. Some people posit higher dimensions, etc. That could be closer to what some religious types state as transcendent, for example.
In my particular religion, it is known as exalted, a deity in what that 'transcendence' is.
i told you i am god
Yet I already know for a fact you are lying.
it doesn't matter if i am or not i believe me
So you truly believe your lie that you are a god.
I seriously doubt a deity would spend time arguing on usenet about inane and irrelevant things that are sometimes downright silly.
Now mind you I am not stating a deity couldn't post to usenet, as I would not want to put limits on them like that, merely since being there on usenet, they wouldn't be doing what you are doing on usenet.
I'd go ahead and believe in him. What if he's right?
Besides, I'm pretty sure he's not a goat-fucker.
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2020-05-22 23:58:12 UTC
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Every argument for God and every attribute ascribed to Him rests on a false metaphysical premise. None can survive for a moment on a correct metaphysics.
There are several various philosophical definitions as to what constitutes a deity, not all of them are identical.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
For instance, God is infinite.
Not every definition uses that as a foundational piece.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Nothing can be infinite, according to the Law of Identity.
Your stupidity seems to be.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Everything is what it is, and nothing else.
Is what you typed there doubletalk?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God the creator of the universe? There can be no creation of something out of nothing. There is no nothing.
There doesn't appear to be a current way people can determine that for sure, is there?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God omnipotent? Can he do anything? Entities can act only in accordance with their natures; nothing can make them violate their natures . . .
“God” as traditionally defined is a systematic contradiction of every valid metaphysical principle. The point is wider than just the Judeo-Christian concept of God. No argument will get you from this world to a supernatural world. No reason will lead you to a world contradicting this one. No method of inference will enable you to leap from existence to a “super-existence.”
Nonsense. Some people posit higher dimensions, etc. That could be closer to what some religious types state as transcendent, for example.
In my particular religion, it is known as exalted, a deity in what that 'transcendence' is.
i told you i am god
Yet I already know for a fact you are lying.
it doesn't matter if i am or not i believe me
So you truly believe your lie that you are a god.
I seriously doubt a deity would spend time arguing on usenet about inane and irrelevant things that are sometimes downright silly.
Now mind you I am not stating a deity couldn't post to usenet, as I would not want to put limits on them like that, merely since being there on usenet, they wouldn't be doing what you are doing on usenet.
What if he's right?
So you concur that he is indeed online claiming to be deity.
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2020-05-23 00:10:34 UTC
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Every argument for God and every attribute ascribed to Him rests on a false metaphysical premise. None can survive for a moment on a correct metaphysics.
There are several various philosophical definitions as to what constitutes a deity, not all of them are identical.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
For instance, God is infinite.
Not every definition uses that as a foundational piece.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Nothing can be infinite, according to the Law of Identity.
Your stupidity seems to be.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Everything is what it is, and nothing else.
Is what you typed there doubletalk?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God the creator of the universe? There can be no creation of something out of nothing. There is no nothing.
There doesn't appear to be a current way people can determine that for sure, is there?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God omnipotent? Can he do anything? Entities can act only in accordance with their natures; nothing can make them violate their natures . . .
“God” as traditionally defined is a systematic contradiction of every valid metaphysical principle. The point is wider than just the Judeo-Christian concept of God. No argument will get you from this world to a supernatural world. No reason will lead you to a world contradicting this one. No method of inference will enable you to leap from existence to a “super-existence.”
Nonsense. Some people posit higher dimensions, etc. That could be closer to what some religious types state as transcendent, for example.
In my particular religion, it is known as exalted, a deity in what that 'transcendence' is.
i told you i am god
Yet I already know for a fact you are lying.
it doesn't matter if i am or not i believe me
So you truly believe your lie that you are a god.
I seriously doubt a deity would spend time arguing on usenet about inane and irrelevant things that are sometimes downright silly.
Now mind you I am not stating a deity couldn't post to usenet, as I would not want to put limits on them like that, merely since being there on usenet, they wouldn't be doing what you are doing on usenet.
What if he's right?
So you concur that he is indeed online claiming to be deity.
I think that's pretty clear.
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2020-05-23 00:12:49 UTC
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Every argument for God and every attribute ascribed to Him rests on a false metaphysical premise. None can survive for a moment on a correct metaphysics.
There are several various philosophical definitions as to what constitutes a deity, not all of them are identical.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
For instance, God is infinite.
Not every definition uses that as a foundational piece.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Nothing can be infinite, according to the Law of Identity.
Your stupidity seems to be.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Everything is what it is, and nothing else.
Is what you typed there doubletalk?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God the creator of the universe? There can be no creation of something out of nothing. There is no nothing.
There doesn't appear to be a current way people can determine that for sure, is there?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God omnipotent? Can he do anything? Entities can act only in accordance with their natures; nothing can make them violate their natures . . .
“God” as traditionally defined is a systematic contradiction of every valid metaphysical principle. The point is wider than just the Judeo-Christian concept of God. No argument will get you from this world to a supernatural world. No reason will lead you to a world contradicting this one. No method of inference will enable you to leap from existence to a “super-existence.”
Nonsense. Some people posit higher dimensions, etc. That could be closer to what some religious types state as transcendent, for example.
In my particular religion, it is known as exalted, a deity in what that 'transcendence' is.
i told you i am god
Yet I already know for a fact you are lying.
it doesn't matter if i am or not i believe me
So you truly believe your lie that you are a god.
I seriously doubt a deity would spend time arguing on usenet about inane and irrelevant things that are sometimes downright silly.
Now mind you I am not stating a deity couldn't post to usenet, as I would not want to put limits on them like that, merely since being there on usenet, they wouldn't be doing what you are doing on usenet.
What if he's right?
So you concur that he is indeed online claiming to be deity.
I think that's pretty clear.
Do you believe him.
I must warn you first, a deity would find that insulting, as robbie is a brainless, fatso, stupid piece of shit.
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2020-05-23 00:13:13 UTC
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Every argument for God and every attribute ascribed to Him rests on a false metaphysical premise. None can survive for a moment on a correct metaphysics.
There are several various philosophical definitions as to what constitutes a deity, not all of them are identical.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
For instance, God is infinite.
Not every definition uses that as a foundational piece.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Nothing can be infinite, according to the Law of Identity.
Your stupidity seems to be.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Everything is what it is, and nothing else.
Is what you typed there doubletalk?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God the creator of the universe? There can be no creation of something out of nothing. There is no nothing.
There doesn't appear to be a current way people can determine that for sure, is there?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God omnipotent? Can he do anything? Entities can act only in accordance with their natures; nothing can make them violate their natures . . .
“God” as traditionally defined is a systematic contradiction of every valid metaphysical principle. The point is wider than just the Judeo-Christian concept of God. No argument will get you from this world to a supernatural world. No reason will lead you to a world contradicting this one. No method of inference will enable you to leap from existence to a “super-existence.”
Nonsense. Some people posit higher dimensions, etc. That could be closer to what some religious types state as transcendent, for example.
In my particular religion, it is known as exalted, a deity in what that 'transcendence' is.
i told you i am god
Yet I already know for a fact you are lying.
it doesn't matter if i am or not i believe me
So you truly believe your lie that you are a god.
I seriously doubt a deity would spend time arguing on usenet about inane and irrelevant things that are sometimes downright silly.
Now mind you I am not stating a deity couldn't post to usenet, as I would not want to put limits on them like that, merely since being there on usenet, they wouldn't be doing what you are doing on usenet.
What if he's right?
So you concur that he is indeed online claiming to be deity.
I think that's pretty clear.
Do you believe him?
I must warn you first, a deity would find that insulting, as robbie is a brainless, fatso, stupid piece of shit.
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2020-05-23 00:13:40 UTC
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Every argument for God and every attribute ascribed to Him rests on a false metaphysical premise. None can survive for a moment on a correct metaphysics.
There are several various philosophical definitions as to what constitutes a deity, not all of them are identical.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
For instance, God is infinite.
Not every definition uses that as a foundational piece.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Nothing can be infinite, according to the Law of Identity.
Your stupidity seems to be.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Everything is what it is, and nothing else.
Is what you typed there doubletalk?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God the creator of the universe? There can be no creation of something out of nothing. There is no nothing.
There doesn't appear to be a current way people can determine that for sure, is there?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God omnipotent? Can he do anything? Entities can act only in accordance with their natures; nothing can make them violate their natures . . .
“God” as traditionally defined is a systematic contradiction of every valid metaphysical principle. The point is wider than just the Judeo-Christian concept of God. No argument will get you from this world to a supernatural world. No reason will lead you to a world contradicting this one. No method of inference will enable you to leap from existence to a “super-existence.”
Nonsense. Some people posit higher dimensions, etc. That could be closer to what some religious types state as transcendent, for example.
In my particular religion, it is known as exalted, a deity in what that 'transcendence' is.
i told you i am god
Yet I already know for a fact you are lying.
it doesn't matter if i am or not i believe me
So you truly believe your lie that you are a god.
I seriously doubt a deity would spend time arguing on usenet about inane and irrelevant things that are sometimes downright silly.
Now mind you I am not stating a deity couldn't post to usenet, as I would not want to put limits on them like that, merely since being there on usenet, they wouldn't be doing what you are doing on usenet.
What if he's right?
So you concur that he is indeed online claiming to be deity.
I think that's pretty clear.
Do you believe him?
I must warn you first, a deity would find that insulting, as robbie is a brainless, fatso, disgusting, stupid piece of shit.
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2020-05-23 00:27:11 UTC
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Every argument for God and every attribute ascribed to Him rests on a false metaphysical premise. None can survive for a moment on a correct metaphysics.
There are several various philosophical definitions as to what constitutes a deity, not all of them are identical.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
For instance, God is infinite.
Not every definition uses that as a foundational piece.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Nothing can be infinite, according to the Law of Identity.
Your stupidity seems to be.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Everything is what it is, and nothing else.
Is what you typed there doubletalk?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God the creator of the universe? There can be no creation of something out of nothing. There is no nothing.
There doesn't appear to be a current way people can determine that for sure, is there?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God omnipotent? Can he do anything? Entities can act only in accordance with their natures; nothing can make them violate their natures . . .
“God” as traditionally defined is a systematic contradiction of every valid metaphysical principle. The point is wider than just the Judeo-Christian concept of God. No argument will get you from this world to a supernatural world. No reason will lead you to a world contradicting this one. No method of inference will enable you to leap from existence to a “super-existence.”
Nonsense. Some people posit higher dimensions, etc. That could be closer to what some religious types state as transcendent, for example.
In my particular religion, it is known as exalted, a deity in what that 'transcendence' is.
i told you i am god
Yet I already know for a fact you are lying.
it doesn't matter if i am or not i believe me
So you truly believe your lie that you are a god.
I seriously doubt a deity would spend time arguing on usenet about inane and irrelevant things that are sometimes downright silly.
Now mind you I am not stating a deity couldn't post to usenet, as I would not want to put limits on them like that, merely since being there on usenet, they wouldn't be doing what you are doing on usenet.
What if he's right?
So you concur that he is indeed online claiming to be deity.
I think that's pretty clear.
Do you believe him?
I must warn you first, a deity would find that insulting, as robbie is a brainless, fatso, disgusting, stupid piece of shit.
you only have to answer once
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2020-05-23 00:39:04 UTC
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Every argument for God and every attribute ascribed to Him rests on a false metaphysical premise. None can survive for a moment on a correct metaphysics.
There are several various philosophical definitions as to what constitutes a deity, not all of them are identical.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
For instance, God is infinite.
Not every definition uses that as a foundational piece.
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Nothing can be infinite, according to the Law of Identity.
Your stupidity seems to be.
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Everything is what it is, and nothing else.
Is what you typed there doubletalk?
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Is God the creator of the universe? There can be no creation of something out of nothing. There is no nothing.
There doesn't appear to be a current way people can determine that for sure, is there?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God omnipotent? Can he do anything? Entities can act only in accordance with their natures; nothing can make them violate their natures . . .
“God” as traditionally defined is a systematic contradiction of every valid metaphysical principle. The point is wider than just the Judeo-Christian concept of God. No argument will get you from this world to a supernatural world. No reason will lead you to a world contradicting this one. No method of inference will enable you to leap from existence to a “super-existence.”
Nonsense. Some people posit higher dimensions, etc. That could be closer to what some religious types state as transcendent, for example.
In my particular religion, it is known as exalted, a deity in what that 'transcendence' is.
i told you i am god
Yet I already know for a fact you are lying.
it doesn't matter if i am or not i believe me
So you truly believe your lie that you are a god.
I seriously doubt a deity would spend time arguing on usenet about inane and irrelevant things that are sometimes downright silly.
Now mind you I am not stating a deity couldn't post to usenet, as I would not want to put limits on them like that, merely since being there on usenet, they wouldn't be doing what you are doing on usenet.
What if he's right?
So you concur that he is indeed online claiming to be deity.
I think that's pretty clear.
Do you believe him?
I must warn you first, a deity would find that insulting, as robbie is a brainless, fatso, disgusting, stupid piece of shit.
you only have to answer once
I doubt a deity would be a troll.
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Every argument for God and every attribute ascribed to Him rests on a false metaphysical premise. None can survive for a moment on a correct metaphysics.
There are several various philosophical definitions as to what constitutes a deity, not all of them are identical.
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For instance, God is infinite.
Not every definition uses that as a foundational piece.
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Nothing can be infinite, according to the Law of Identity.
Your stupidity seems to be.
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Everything is what it is, and nothing else.
Is what you typed there doubletalk?
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Is God the creator of the universe? There can be no creation of something out of nothing. There is no nothing.
There doesn't appear to be a current way people can determine that for sure, is there?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God omnipotent? Can he do anything? Entities can act only in accordance with their natures; nothing can make them violate their natures . . .
“God” as traditionally defined is a systematic contradiction of every valid metaphysical principle. The point is wider than just the Judeo-Christian concept of God. No argument will get you from this world to a supernatural world. No reason will lead you to a world contradicting this one. No method of inference will enable you to leap from existence to a “super-existence.”
Nonsense. Some people posit higher dimensions, etc. That could be closer to what some religious types state as transcendent, for example.
In my particular religion, it is known as exalted, a deity in what that 'transcendence' is.
i told you i am god
Yet I already know for a fact you are lying.
it doesn't matter if i am or not i believe me
So you truly believe your lie that you are a god.
I seriously doubt a deity would spend time arguing on usenet about inane and irrelevant things that are sometimes downright silly.
Now mind you I am not stating a deity couldn't post to usenet, as I would not want to put limits on them like that, merely since being there on usenet, they wouldn't be doing what you are doing on usenet.
What if he's right?
So you concur that he is indeed online claiming to be deity.
I think that's pretty clear.
Do you believe him?
I must warn you first, a deity would find that insulting, as robbie is a brainless, fatso, disgusting, stupid piece of shit.
you only have to answer once
I doubt a deity would be a troll.
go ahead , doubt
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There are several various philosophical definitions as to what constitutes a deity, not all of them are identical.
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For instance, God is infinite.
Not every definition uses that as a foundational piece.
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Nothing can be infinite, according to the Law of Identity.
Your stupidity seems to be.
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Everything is what it is, and nothing else.
Is what you typed there doubletalk?
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Is God the creator of the universe? There can be no creation of something out of nothing. There is no nothing.
There doesn't appear to be a current way people can determine that for sure, is there?
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Is God omnipotent? Can he do anything? Entities can act only in accordance with their natures; nothing can make them violate their natures . . .
“God” as traditionally defined is a systematic contradiction of every valid metaphysical principle. The point is wider than just the Judeo-Christian concept of God. No argument will get you from this world to a supernatural world. No reason will lead you to a world contradicting this one. No method of inference will enable you to leap from existence to a “super-existence.”
Nonsense. Some people posit higher dimensions, etc. That could be closer to what some religious types state as transcendent, for example.
In my particular religion, it is known as exalted, a deity in what that 'transcendence' is.
i told you i am god
Yet I already know for a fact you are lying.
it doesn't matter if i am or not i believe me
So you truly believe your lie that you are a god.
I seriously doubt a deity would spend time arguing on usenet about inane and irrelevant things that are sometimes downright silly.
Now mind you I am not stating a deity couldn't post to usenet, as I would not want to put limits on them like that, merely since being there on usenet, they wouldn't be doing what you are doing on usenet.
What if he's right?
So you concur that he is indeed online claiming to be deity.
I think that's pretty clear.
Do you believe him?
I must warn you first, a deity would find that insulting, as robbie is a brainless, fatso, disgusting, stupid piece of shit.
you only have to answer once
I doubt a deity would be a troll.
go ahead
If I did, would you lose your 'deity powers' you don't have?
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Every argument for God and every attribute ascribed to Him rests on a false metaphysical premise. None can survive for a moment on a correct metaphysics.
There are several various philosophical definitions as to what constitutes a deity, not all of them are identical.
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For instance, God is infinite.
Not every definition uses that as a foundational piece.
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Nothing can be infinite, according to the Law of Identity.
Your stupidity seems to be.
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Everything is what it is, and nothing else.
Is what you typed there doubletalk?
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Is God the creator of the universe? There can be no creation of something out of nothing. There is no nothing.
There doesn't appear to be a current way people can determine that for sure, is there?
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Is God omnipotent? Can he do anything? Entities can act only in accordance with their natures; nothing can make them violate their natures . . .
“God” as traditionally defined is a systematic contradiction of every valid metaphysical principle. The point is wider than just the Judeo-Christian concept of God. No argument will get you from this world to a supernatural world. No reason will lead you to a world contradicting this one. No method of inference will enable you to leap from existence to a “super-existence.”
Nonsense. Some people posit higher dimensions, etc. That could be closer to what some religious types state as transcendent, for example.
In my particular religion, it is known as exalted, a deity in what that 'transcendence' is.
i told you i am god
Yet I already know for a fact you are lying.
it doesn't matter if i am or not i believe me
So you truly believe your lie that you are a god.
I seriously doubt a deity would spend time arguing on usenet about inane and irrelevant things that are sometimes downright silly.
Now mind you I am not stating a deity couldn't post to usenet, as I would not want to put limits on them like that, merely since being there on usenet, they wouldn't be doing what you are doing on usenet.
What if he's right?
So you concur that he is indeed online claiming to be deity.
I think that's pretty clear.
Do you believe him?
I must warn you first, a deity would find that insulting, as robbie is a brainless, fatso, disgusting, stupid piece of shit.
you only have to answer once
I doubt a deity would be a troll.
go ahead
If I did, would you lose your 'deity powers' you don't have?
no i wouldn't
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2020-05-23 01:02:15 UTC
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Every argument for God and every attribute ascribed to Him rests on a false metaphysical premise. None can survive for a moment on a correct metaphysics.
There are several various philosophical definitions as to what constitutes a deity, not all of them are identical.
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For instance, God is infinite.
Not every definition uses that as a foundational piece.
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Nothing can be infinite, according to the Law of Identity.
Your stupidity seems to be.
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Everything is what it is, and nothing else.
Is what you typed there doubletalk?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God the creator of the universe? There can be no creation of something out of nothing. There is no nothing.
There doesn't appear to be a current way people can determine that for sure, is there?
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Is God omnipotent? Can he do anything? Entities can act only in accordance with their natures; nothing can make them violate their natures . . .
“God” as traditionally defined is a systematic contradiction of every valid metaphysical principle. The point is wider than just the Judeo-Christian concept of God. No argument will get you from this world to a supernatural world. No reason will lead you to a world contradicting this one. No method of inference will enable you to leap from existence to a “super-existence.”
Nonsense. Some people posit higher dimensions, etc. That could be closer to what some religious types state as transcendent, for example.
In my particular religion, it is known as exalted, a deity in what that 'transcendence' is.
i told you i am god
Yet I already know for a fact you are lying.
it doesn't matter if i am or not i believe me
So you truly believe your lie that you are a god.
I seriously doubt a deity would spend time arguing on usenet about inane and irrelevant things that are sometimes downright silly.
Now mind you I am not stating a deity couldn't post to usenet, as I would not want to put limits on them like that, merely since being there on usenet, they wouldn't be doing what you are doing on usenet.
What if he's right?
So you concur that he is indeed online claiming to be deity.
I think that's pretty clear.
Do you believe him?
I must warn you first, a deity would find that insulting, as robbie is a brainless, fatso, disgusting, stupid piece of shit.
you only have to answer once
I doubt a deity would be a troll.
go ahead
If I did, would you lose your 'deity powers' you don't have?
no i wouldn't
No way you can lose powers you do not have.
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Every argument for God and every attribute ascribed to Him rests on a false metaphysical premise. None can survive for a moment on a correct metaphysics.
There are several various philosophical definitions as to what constitutes a deity, not all of them are identical.
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For instance, God is infinite.
Not every definition uses that as a foundational piece.
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Nothing can be infinite, according to the Law of Identity.
Your stupidity seems to be.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Everything is what it is, and nothing else.
Is what you typed there doubletalk?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God the creator of the universe? There can be no creation of something out of nothing. There is no nothing.
There doesn't appear to be a current way people can determine that for sure, is there?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God omnipotent? Can he do anything? Entities can act only in accordance with their natures; nothing can make them violate their natures . . .
“God” as traditionally defined is a systematic contradiction of every valid metaphysical principle. The point is wider than just the Judeo-Christian concept of God. No argument will get you from this world to a supernatural world. No reason will lead you to a world contradicting this one. No method of inference will enable you to leap from existence to a “super-existence.”
Nonsense. Some people posit higher dimensions, etc. That could be closer to what some religious types state as transcendent, for example.
In my particular religion, it is known as exalted, a deity in what that 'transcendence' is.
i told you i am god
Yet I already know for a fact you are lying.
it doesn't matter if i am or not i believe me
So you truly believe your lie that you are a god.
I seriously doubt a deity would spend time arguing on usenet about inane and irrelevant things that are sometimes downright silly.
Now mind you I am not stating a deity couldn't post to usenet, as I would not want to put limits on them like that, merely since being there on usenet, they wouldn't be doing what you are doing on usenet.
What if he's right?
So you concur that he is indeed online claiming to be deity.
I think that's pretty clear.
Do you believe him?
I must warn you first, a deity would find that insulting, as robbie is a brainless, fatso, disgusting, stupid piece of shit.
you only have to answer once
I doubt a deity would be a troll.
go ahead
If I did, would you lose your 'deity powers' you don't have?
no i wouldn't
No way you can lose powers you do not have.
yes i can
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2020-05-23 01:15:28 UTC
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Every argument for God and every attribute ascribed to Him rests on a false metaphysical premise. None can survive for a moment on a correct metaphysics.
There are several various philosophical definitions as to what constitutes a deity, not all of them are identical.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
For instance, God is infinite.
Not every definition uses that as a foundational piece.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Nothing can be infinite, according to the Law of Identity.
Your stupidity seems to be.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Everything is what it is, and nothing else.
Is what you typed there doubletalk?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God the creator of the universe? There can be no creation of something out of nothing. There is no nothing.
There doesn't appear to be a current way people can determine that for sure, is there?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God omnipotent? Can he do anything? Entities can act only in accordance with their natures; nothing can make them violate their natures . . .
“God” as traditionally defined is a systematic contradiction of every valid metaphysical principle. The point is wider than just the Judeo-Christian concept of God. No argument will get you from this world to a supernatural world. No reason will lead you to a world contradicting this one. No method of inference will enable you to leap from existence to a “super-existence.”
Nonsense. Some people posit higher dimensions, etc. That could be closer to what some religious types state as transcendent, for example.
In my particular religion, it is known as exalted, a deity in what that 'transcendence' is.
i told you i am god
Yet I already know for a fact you are lying.
it doesn't matter if i am or not i believe me
So you truly believe your lie that you are a god.
I seriously doubt a deity would spend time arguing on usenet about inane and irrelevant things that are sometimes downright silly.
Now mind you I am not stating a deity couldn't post to usenet, as I would not want to put limits on them like that, merely since being there on usenet, they wouldn't be doing what you are doing on usenet.
What if he's right?
So you concur that he is indeed online claiming to be deity.
I think that's pretty clear.
Do you believe him?
I'm an atheist. What do you think?
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2020-05-23 01:16:32 UTC
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Every argument for God and every attribute ascribed to Him rests on a false metaphysical premise. None can survive for a moment on a correct metaphysics.
There are several various philosophical definitions as to what constitutes a deity, not all of them are identical.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
For instance, God is infinite.
Not every definition uses that as a foundational piece.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Nothing can be infinite, according to the Law of Identity.
Your stupidity seems to be.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Everything is what it is, and nothing else.
Is what you typed there doubletalk?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God the creator of the universe? There can be no creation of something out of nothing. There is no nothing.
There doesn't appear to be a current way people can determine that for sure, is there?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God omnipotent? Can he do anything? Entities can act only in accordance with their natures; nothing can make them violate their natures . . .
“God” as traditionally defined is a systematic contradiction of every valid metaphysical principle. The point is wider than just the Judeo-Christian concept of God. No argument will get you from this world to a supernatural world. No reason will lead you to a world contradicting this one. No method of inference will enable you to leap from existence to a “super-existence.”
Nonsense. Some people posit higher dimensions, etc. That could be closer to what some religious types state as transcendent, for example.
In my particular religion, it is known as exalted, a deity in what that 'transcendence' is.
i told you i am god
Yet I already know for a fact you are lying.
it doesn't matter if i am or not i believe me
So you truly believe your lie that you are a god.
I seriously doubt a deity would spend time arguing on usenet about inane and irrelevant things that are sometimes downright silly.
Now mind you I am not stating a deity couldn't post to usenet, as I would not want to put limits on them like that, merely since being there on usenet, they wouldn't be doing what you are doing on usenet.
What if he's right?
So you concur that he is indeed online claiming to be deity.
I think that's pretty clear.
Do you believe him?
I'm an atheist. What do you think?
That you are lying about that.
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Every argument for God and every attribute ascribed to Him rests on a false metaphysical premise. None can survive for a moment on a correct metaphysics.
There are several various philosophical definitions as to what constitutes a deity, not all of them are identical.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
For instance, God is infinite.
Not every definition uses that as a foundational piece.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Nothing can be infinite, according to the Law of Identity.
Your stupidity seems to be.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Everything is what it is, and nothing else.
Is what you typed there doubletalk?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God the creator of the universe? There can be no creation of something out of nothing. There is no nothing.
There doesn't appear to be a current way people can determine that for sure, is there?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God omnipotent? Can he do anything? Entities can act only in accordance with their natures; nothing can make them violate their natures . . .
“God” as traditionally defined is a systematic contradiction of every valid metaphysical principle. The point is wider than just the Judeo-Christian concept of God. No argument will get you from this world to a supernatural world. No reason will lead you to a world contradicting this one. No method of inference will enable you to leap from existence to a “super-existence.”
Nonsense. Some people posit higher dimensions, etc. That could be closer to what some religious types state as transcendent, for example.
In my particular religion, it is known as exalted, a deity in what that 'transcendence' is.
i told you i am god
Yet I already know for a fact you are lying.
it doesn't matter if i am or not i believe me
So you truly believe your lie that you are a god.
I seriously doubt a deity would spend time arguing on usenet about inane and irrelevant things that are sometimes downright silly.
Now mind you I am not stating a deity couldn't post to usenet, as I would not want to put limits on them like that, merely since being there on usenet, they wouldn't be doing what you are doing on usenet.
What if he's right?
So you concur that he is indeed online claiming to be deity.
I think that's pretty clear.
Do you believe him?
I'm an atheist. What do you think?
That you are lying about that.
of course he is
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2020-05-23 01:50:40 UTC
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Every argument for God and every attribute ascribed to Him rests on a false metaphysical premise. None can survive for a moment on a correct metaphysics.
There are several various philosophical definitions as to what constitutes a deity, not all of them are identical.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
For instance, God is infinite.
Not every definition uses that as a foundational piece.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Nothing can be infinite, according to the Law of Identity.
Your stupidity seems to be.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Everything is what it is, and nothing else.
Is what you typed there doubletalk?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God the creator of the universe? There can be no creation of something out of nothing. There is no nothing.
There doesn't appear to be a current way people can determine that for sure, is there?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God omnipotent? Can he do anything? Entities can act only in accordance with their natures; nothing can make them violate their natures . . .
“God” as traditionally defined is a systematic contradiction of every valid metaphysical principle. The point is wider than just the Judeo-Christian concept of God. No argument will get you from this world to a supernatural world. No reason will lead you to a world contradicting this one. No method of inference will enable you to leap from existence to a “super-existence.”
Nonsense. Some people posit higher dimensions, etc. That could be closer to what some religious types state as transcendent, for example.
In my particular religion, it is known as exalted, a deity in what that 'transcendence' is.
i told you i am god
Yet I already know for a fact you are lying.
it doesn't matter if i am or not i believe me
So you truly believe your lie that you are a god.
I seriously doubt a deity would spend time arguing on usenet about inane and irrelevant things that are sometimes downright silly.
Now mind you I am not stating a deity couldn't post to usenet, as I would not want to put limits on them like that, merely since being there on usenet, they wouldn't be doing what you are doing on usenet.
What if he's right?
So you concur that he is indeed online claiming to be deity.
I think that's pretty clear.
Do you believe him?
I'm an atheist. What do you think?
That you are lying about that.
Are you sure, pal? Today is Friday. I was told that JWS only lies on Monday,Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Saturday.
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Every argument for God and every attribute ascribed to Him rests on a false metaphysical premise. None can survive for a moment on a correct metaphysics.
There are several various philosophical definitions as to what constitutes a deity, not all of them are identical.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
For instance, God is infinite.
Not every definition uses that as a foundational piece.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Nothing can be infinite, according to the Law of Identity.
Your stupidity seems to be.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Everything is what it is, and nothing else.
Is what you typed there doubletalk?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God the creator of the universe? There can be no creation of something out of nothing. There is no nothing.
There doesn't appear to be a current way people can determine that for sure, is there?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God omnipotent? Can he do anything? Entities can act only in accordance with their natures; nothing can make them violate their natures . . .
“God” as traditionally defined is a systematic contradiction of every valid metaphysical principle. The point is wider than just the Judeo-Christian concept of God. No argument will get you from this world to a supernatural world. No reason will lead you to a world contradicting this one. No method of inference will enable you to leap from existence to a “super-existence.”
Nonsense. Some people posit higher dimensions, etc. That could be closer to what some religious types state as transcendent, for example.
In my particular religion, it is known as exalted, a deity in what that 'transcendence' is.
i told you i am god
Yet I already know for a fact you are lying.
it doesn't matter if i am or not i believe me
So you truly believe your lie that you are a god.
I seriously doubt a deity would spend time arguing on usenet about inane and irrelevant things that are sometimes downright silly.
Now mind you I am not stating a deity couldn't post to usenet, as I would not want to put limits on them like that, merely since being there on usenet, they wouldn't be doing what you are doing on usenet.
What if he's right?
So you concur that he is indeed online claiming to be deity.
I think that's pretty clear.
Do you believe him?
I'm an atheist. What do you think?
you think i'm god
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Every argument for God and every attribute ascribed to Him rests on a false metaphysical premise. None can survive for a moment on a correct metaphysics.
There are several various philosophical definitions as to what constitutes a deity, not all of them are identical.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
For instance, God is infinite.
Not every definition uses that as a foundational piece.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Nothing can be infinite, according to the Law of Identity.
Your stupidity seems to be.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Everything is what it is, and nothing else.
Is what you typed there doubletalk?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God the creator of the universe? There can be no creation of something out of nothing. There is no nothing.
There doesn't appear to be a current way people can determine that for sure, is there?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God omnipotent? Can he do anything? Entities can act only in accordance with their natures; nothing can make them violate their natures . . .
“God” as traditionally defined is a systematic contradiction of every valid metaphysical principle. The point is wider than just the Judeo-Christian concept of God. No argument will get you from this world to a supernatural world. No reason will lead you to a world contradicting this one. No method of inference will enable you to leap from existence to a “super-existence.”
Nonsense. Some people posit higher dimensions, etc. That could be closer to what some religious types state as transcendent, for example.
In my particular religion, it is known as exalted, a deity in what that 'transcendence' is.
i told you i am god
Yet I already know for a fact you are lying.
it doesn't matter if i am or not i believe me
So you truly believe your lie that you are a god.
I seriously doubt a deity would spend time arguing on usenet about inane and irrelevant things that are sometimes downright silly.
Now mind you I am not stating a deity couldn't post to usenet, as I would not want to put limits on them like that, merely since being there on usenet, they wouldn't be doing what you are doing on usenet.
What if he's right?
So you concur that he is indeed online claiming to be deity.
I think that's pretty clear.
Do you believe him?
I must warn you first, a deity would find that insulting, as robbie is a brainless, fatso, stupid piece of shit.
you only have to answer once
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2020-05-23 00:26:23 UTC
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Every argument for God and every attribute ascribed to Him rests on a false metaphysical premise. None can survive for a moment on a correct metaphysics.
There are several various philosophical definitions as to what constitutes a deity, not all of them are identical.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
For instance, God is infinite.
Not every definition uses that as a foundational piece.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Nothing can be infinite, according to the Law of Identity.
Your stupidity seems to be.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Everything is what it is, and nothing else.
Is what you typed there doubletalk?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God the creator of the universe? There can be no creation of something out of nothing. There is no nothing.
There doesn't appear to be a current way people can determine that for sure, is there?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God omnipotent? Can he do anything? Entities can act only in accordance with their natures; nothing can make them violate their natures . . .
“God” as traditionally defined is a systematic contradiction of every valid metaphysical principle. The point is wider than just the Judeo-Christian concept of God. No argument will get you from this world to a supernatural world. No reason will lead you to a world contradicting this one. No method of inference will enable you to leap from existence to a “super-existence.”
Nonsense. Some people posit higher dimensions, etc. That could be closer to what some religious types state as transcendent, for example.
In my particular religion, it is known as exalted, a deity in what that 'transcendence' is.
i told you i am god
Yet I already know for a fact you are lying.
it doesn't matter if i am or not i believe me
So you truly believe your lie that you are a god.
I seriously doubt a deity would spend time arguing on usenet about inane and irrelevant things that are sometimes downright silly.
Now mind you I am not stating a deity couldn't post to usenet, as I would not want to put limits on them like that, merely since being there on usenet, they wouldn't be doing what you are doing on usenet.
What if he's right?
So you concur that he is indeed online claiming to be deity.
I think that's pretty clear.
Do you believe him.
I must warn you first, a deity would find that insulting, as robbie is a brainless, fatso, stupid piece of shit.
it doesn't insult me that would mean i care
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Every argument for God and every attribute ascribed to Him rests on a false metaphysical premise. None can survive for a moment on a correct metaphysics.
There are several various philosophical definitions as to what constitutes a deity, not all of them are identical.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
For instance, God is infinite.
Not every definition uses that as a foundational piece.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Nothing can be infinite, according to the Law of Identity.
Your stupidity seems to be.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Everything is what it is, and nothing else.
Is what you typed there doubletalk?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God the creator of the universe? There can be no creation of something out of nothing. There is no nothing.
There doesn't appear to be a current way people can determine that for sure, is there?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God omnipotent? Can he do anything? Entities can act only in accordance with their natures; nothing can make them violate their natures . . .
“God” as traditionally defined is a systematic contradiction of every valid metaphysical principle. The point is wider than just the Judeo-Christian concept of God. No argument will get you from this world to a supernatural world. No reason will lead you to a world contradicting this one. No method of inference will enable you to leap from existence to a “super-existence.”
Nonsense. Some people posit higher dimensions, etc. That could be closer to what some religious types state as transcendent, for example.
In my particular religion, it is known as exalted, a deity in what that 'transcendence' is.
i told you i am god
Yet I already know for a fact you are lying.
it doesn't matter if i am or not i believe me
So you truly believe your lie that you are a god.
I seriously doubt a deity would spend time arguing on usenet about inane and irrelevant things that are sometimes downright silly.
Now mind you I am not stating a deity couldn't post to usenet, as I would not want to put limits on them like that, merely since being there on usenet, they wouldn't be doing what you are doing on usenet.
i don't care what you would do i'm talking about what i do
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Every argument for God and every attribute ascribed to Him rests on a false metaphysical premise. None can survive for a moment on a correct metaphysics.
There are several various philosophical definitions as to what constitutes a deity, not all of them are identical.
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For instance, God is infinite.
Not every definition uses that as a foundational piece.
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Nothing can be infinite, according to the Law of Identity.
Your stupidity seems to be.
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Everything is what it is, and nothing else.
Is what you typed there doubletalk?
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Is God the creator of the universe? There can be no creation of something out of nothing. There is no nothing.
There doesn't appear to be a current way people can determine that for sure, is there?
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Is God omnipotent? Can he do anything? Entities can act only in accordance with their natures; nothing can make them violate their natures . . .
“God” as traditionally defined is a systematic contradiction of every valid metaphysical principle. The point is wider than just the Judeo-Christian concept of God. No argument will get you from this world to a supernatural world. No reason will lead you to a world contradicting this one. No method of inference will enable you to leap from existence to a “super-existence.”
Nonsense. Some people posit higher dimensions, etc. That could be closer to what some religious types state as transcendent, for example.
In my particular religion, it is known as exalted, a deity in what that 'transcendence' is.
i told you i am god
Yet I already know for a fact you are lying.
it doesn't matter if i am or not i believe me
So you truly believe your lie that you are a god.
I seriously doubt a deity would spend time arguing on usenet about inane and irrelevant things that are sometimes downright silly.
Now mind you I am not stating a deity couldn't post to usenet, as I would not want to put limits on them like that, merely since being there on usenet, they wouldn't be doing what you are doing on usenet.
i don't care what you would do
I am not a deity, moron.
I would presume that they wouldn't portray a brainless oaf online.
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Every argument for God and every attribute ascribed to Him rests on a false metaphysical premise. None can survive for a moment on a correct metaphysics.
There are several various philosophical definitions as to what constitutes a deity, not all of them are identical.
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For instance, God is infinite.
Not every definition uses that as a foundational piece.
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Nothing can be infinite, according to the Law of Identity.
Your stupidity seems to be.
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Everything is what it is, and nothing else.
Is what you typed there doubletalk?
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Is God the creator of the universe? There can be no creation of something out of nothing. There is no nothing.
There doesn't appear to be a current way people can determine that for sure, is there?
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Is God omnipotent? Can he do anything? Entities can act only in accordance with their natures; nothing can make them violate their natures . . .
“God” as traditionally defined is a systematic contradiction of every valid metaphysical principle. The point is wider than just the Judeo-Christian concept of God. No argument will get you from this world to a supernatural world. No reason will lead you to a world contradicting this one. No method of inference will enable you to leap from existence to a “super-existence.”
Nonsense. Some people posit higher dimensions, etc. That could be closer to what some religious types state as transcendent, for example.
In my particular religion, it is known as exalted, a deity in what that 'transcendence' is.
i told you i am god
Yet I already know for a fact you are lying.
it doesn't matter if i am or not i believe me
So you truly believe your lie that you are a god.
I seriously doubt a deity would spend time arguing on usenet about inane and irrelevant things that are sometimes downright silly.
Now mind you I am not stating a deity couldn't post to usenet, as I would not want to put limits on them like that, merely since being there on usenet, they wouldn't be doing what you are doing on usenet.
i don't care what you would do
I am not a deity, moron.
I would presume that they wouldn't portray a brainless oaf online.
yea they would because i would make them like i do you
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2020-05-23 00:51:34 UTC
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Every argument for God and every attribute ascribed to Him rests on a false metaphysical premise. None can survive for a moment on a correct metaphysics.
There are several various philosophical definitions as to what constitutes a deity, not all of them are identical.
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For instance, God is infinite.
Not every definition uses that as a foundational piece.
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Nothing can be infinite, according to the Law of Identity.
Your stupidity seems to be.
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Everything is what it is, and nothing else.
Is what you typed there doubletalk?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God the creator of the universe? There can be no creation of something out of nothing. There is no nothing.
There doesn't appear to be a current way people can determine that for sure, is there?
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Is God omnipotent? Can he do anything? Entities can act only in accordance with their natures; nothing can make them violate their natures . . .
“God” as traditionally defined is a systematic contradiction of every valid metaphysical principle. The point is wider than just the Judeo-Christian concept of God. No argument will get you from this world to a supernatural world. No reason will lead you to a world contradicting this one. No method of inference will enable you to leap from existence to a “super-existence.”
Nonsense. Some people posit higher dimensions, etc. That could be closer to what some religious types state as transcendent, for example.
In my particular religion, it is known as exalted, a deity in what that 'transcendence' is.
i told you i am god
Yet I already know for a fact you are lying.
it doesn't matter if i am or not i believe me
So you truly believe your lie that you are a god.
I seriously doubt a deity would spend time arguing on usenet about inane and irrelevant things that are sometimes downright silly.
Now mind you I am not stating a deity couldn't post to usenet, as I would not want to put limits on them like that, merely since being there on usenet, they wouldn't be doing what you are doing on usenet.
i don't care what you would do
I am not a deity, moron.
I would presume that they wouldn't portray a brainless oaf online.
yea they would
I think a stupid deity is a contradiction in terms, therefore you are not a deity.

^ is that a proof?
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Every argument for God and every attribute ascribed to Him rests on a false metaphysical premise. None can survive for a moment on a correct metaphysics.
There are several various philosophical definitions as to what constitutes a deity, not all of them are identical.
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For instance, God is infinite.
Not every definition uses that as a foundational piece.
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Nothing can be infinite, according to the Law of Identity.
Your stupidity seems to be.
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Everything is what it is, and nothing else.
Is what you typed there doubletalk?
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Is God the creator of the universe? There can be no creation of something out of nothing. There is no nothing.
There doesn't appear to be a current way people can determine that for sure, is there?
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Is God omnipotent? Can he do anything? Entities can act only in accordance with their natures; nothing can make them violate their natures . . .
“God” as traditionally defined is a systematic contradiction of every valid metaphysical principle. The point is wider than just the Judeo-Christian concept of God. No argument will get you from this world to a supernatural world. No reason will lead you to a world contradicting this one. No method of inference will enable you to leap from existence to a “super-existence.”
Nonsense. Some people posit higher dimensions, etc. That could be closer to what some religious types state as transcendent, for example.
In my particular religion, it is known as exalted, a deity in what that 'transcendence' is.
i told you i am god
Yet I already know for a fact you are lying.
it doesn't matter if i am or not i believe me
So you truly believe your lie that you are a god.
I seriously doubt a deity would spend time arguing on usenet about inane and irrelevant things that are sometimes downright silly.
Now mind you I am not stating a deity couldn't post to usenet, as I would not want to put limits on them like that, merely since being there on usenet, they wouldn't be doing what you are doing on usenet.
i don't care what you would do
I am not a deity, moron.
I would presume that they wouldn't portray a brainless oaf online.
yea they would
I think a stupid deity is a contradiction in terms, therefore you are not a deity.
^ is that a proof?
yes i am
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2020-05-23 01:00:41 UTC
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Every argument for God and every attribute ascribed to Him rests on a false metaphysical premise. None can survive for a moment on a correct metaphysics.
There are several various philosophical definitions as to what constitutes a deity, not all of them are identical.
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For instance, God is infinite.
Not every definition uses that as a foundational piece.
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Nothing can be infinite, according to the Law of Identity.
Your stupidity seems to be.
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Everything is what it is, and nothing else.
Is what you typed there doubletalk?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God the creator of the universe? There can be no creation of something out of nothing. There is no nothing.
There doesn't appear to be a current way people can determine that for sure, is there?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God omnipotent? Can he do anything? Entities can act only in accordance with their natures; nothing can make them violate their natures . . .
“God” as traditionally defined is a systematic contradiction of every valid metaphysical principle. The point is wider than just the Judeo-Christian concept of God. No argument will get you from this world to a supernatural world. No reason will lead you to a world contradicting this one. No method of inference will enable you to leap from existence to a “super-existence.”
Nonsense. Some people posit higher dimensions, etc. That could be closer to what some religious types state as transcendent, for example.
In my particular religion, it is known as exalted, a deity in what that 'transcendence' is.
i told you i am god
Yet I already know for a fact you are lying.
it doesn't matter if i am or not i believe me
So you truly believe your lie that you are a god.
I seriously doubt a deity would spend time arguing on usenet about inane and irrelevant things that are sometimes downright silly.
Now mind you I am not stating a deity couldn't post to usenet, as I would not want to put limits on them like that, merely since being there on usenet, they wouldn't be doing what you are doing on usenet.
i don't care what you would do
I am not a deity, moron.
I would presume that they wouldn't portray a brainless oaf online.
yea they would
I think a stupid deity is a contradiction in terms, therefore you are not a deity.
^ is that a proof?
yes i am
You should really stop being such a god damn liar.
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Every argument for God and every attribute ascribed to Him rests on a false metaphysical premise. None can survive for a moment on a correct metaphysics.
There are several various philosophical definitions as to what constitutes a deity, not all of them are identical.
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For instance, God is infinite.
Not every definition uses that as a foundational piece.
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Nothing can be infinite, according to the Law of Identity.
Your stupidity seems to be.
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Everything is what it is, and nothing else.
Is what you typed there doubletalk?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God the creator of the universe? There can be no creation of something out of nothing. There is no nothing.
There doesn't appear to be a current way people can determine that for sure, is there?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God omnipotent? Can he do anything? Entities can act only in accordance with their natures; nothing can make them violate their natures . . .
“God” as traditionally defined is a systematic contradiction of every valid metaphysical principle. The point is wider than just the Judeo-Christian concept of God. No argument will get you from this world to a supernatural world. No reason will lead you to a world contradicting this one. No method of inference will enable you to leap from existence to a “super-existence.”
Nonsense. Some people posit higher dimensions, etc. That could be closer to what some religious types state as transcendent, for example.
In my particular religion, it is known as exalted, a deity in what that 'transcendence' is.
i told you i am god
Yet I already know for a fact you are lying.
it doesn't matter if i am or not i believe me
So you truly believe your lie that you are a god.
I seriously doubt a deity would spend time arguing on usenet about inane and irrelevant things that are sometimes downright silly.
Now mind you I am not stating a deity couldn't post to usenet, as I would not want to put limits on them like that, merely since being there on usenet, they wouldn't be doing what you are doing on usenet.
i don't care what you would do
I am not a deity, moron.
I would presume that they wouldn't portray a brainless oaf online.
yea they would
I think a stupid deity is a contradiction in terms, therefore you are not a deity.
^ is that a proof?
yes i am
You should really stop being such a god damn liar.
no i shouldn't
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2020-05-23 01:52:04 UTC
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Every argument for God and every attribute ascribed to Him rests on a false metaphysical premise. None can survive for a moment on a correct metaphysics.
There are several various philosophical definitions as to what constitutes a deity, not all of them are identical.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
For instance, God is infinite.
Not every definition uses that as a foundational piece.
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Nothing can be infinite, according to the Law of Identity.
Your stupidity seems to be.
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Everything is what it is, and nothing else.
Is what you typed there doubletalk?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God the creator of the universe? There can be no creation of something out of nothing. There is no nothing.
There doesn't appear to be a current way people can determine that for sure, is there?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God omnipotent? Can he do anything? Entities can act only in accordance with their natures; nothing can make them violate their natures . . .
“God” as traditionally defined is a systematic contradiction of every valid metaphysical principle. The point is wider than just the Judeo-Christian concept of God. No argument will get you from this world to a supernatural world. No reason will lead you to a world contradicting this one. No method of inference will enable you to leap from existence to a “super-existence.”
Nonsense. Some people posit higher dimensions, etc. That could be closer to what some religious types state as transcendent, for example.
In my particular religion, it is known as exalted, a deity in what that 'transcendence' is.
i told you i am god
Yet I already know for a fact you are lying.
it doesn't matter if i am or not i believe me
So you truly believe your lie that you are a god.
I seriously doubt a deity would spend time arguing on usenet about inane and irrelevant things that are sometimes downright silly.
Now mind you I am not stating a deity couldn't post to usenet, as I would not want to put limits on them like that, merely since being there on usenet, they wouldn't be doing what you are doing on usenet.
i don't care what you would do
I am not a deity, moron.
I would presume that they wouldn't portray a brainless oaf online.
yea they would
I think a stupid deity is a contradiction in terms, therefore you are not a deity.
^ is that a proof?
yes i am
You should really stop being such a god damn liar.
no i shouldn't
Thanks for implicitly admitting you are.
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Every argument for God and every attribute ascribed to Him rests on a false metaphysical premise. None can survive for a moment on a correct metaphysics.
There are several various philosophical definitions as to what constitutes a deity, not all of them are identical.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
For instance, God is infinite.
Not every definition uses that as a foundational piece.
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Nothing can be infinite, according to the Law of Identity.
Your stupidity seems to be.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Everything is what it is, and nothing else.
Is what you typed there doubletalk?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God the creator of the universe? There can be no creation of something out of nothing. There is no nothing.
There doesn't appear to be a current way people can determine that for sure, is there?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God omnipotent? Can he do anything? Entities can act only in accordance with their natures; nothing can make them violate their natures . . .
“God” as traditionally defined is a systematic contradiction of every valid metaphysical principle. The point is wider than just the Judeo-Christian concept of God. No argument will get you from this world to a supernatural world. No reason will lead you to a world contradicting this one. No method of inference will enable you to leap from existence to a “super-existence.”
Nonsense. Some people posit higher dimensions, etc. That could be closer to what some religious types state as transcendent, for example.
In my particular religion, it is known as exalted, a deity in what that 'transcendence' is.
i told you i am god
Yet I already know for a fact you are lying.
it doesn't matter if i am or not i believe me
So you truly believe your lie that you are a god.
I seriously doubt a deity would spend time arguing on usenet about inane and irrelevant things that are sometimes downright silly.
Now mind you I am not stating a deity couldn't post to usenet, as I would not want to put limits on them like that, merely since being there on usenet, they wouldn't be doing what you are doing on usenet.
i don't care what you would do
I am not a deity, moron.
I would presume that they wouldn't portray a brainless oaf online.
yea they would
I think a stupid deity is a contradiction in terms, therefore you are not a deity.
^ is that a proof?
yes i am
You should really stop being such a god damn liar.
no i shouldn't
Thanks for implicitly admitting you are.
you're welcome

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Every argument for God and every attribute ascribed to Him rests on a false metaphysical premise. None can survive for a moment on a correct metaphysics.
There are several various philosophical definitions as to what constitutes a deity, not all of them are identical.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
For instance, God is infinite.
Not every definition uses that as a foundational piece.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Nothing can be infinite, according to the Law of Identity.
Your stupidity seems to be.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Everything is what it is, and nothing else.
Is what you typed there doubletalk?
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Is God the creator of the universe? There can be no creation of something out of nothing. There is no nothing.
There doesn't appear to be a current way people can determine that for sure, is there?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Is God omnipotent? Can he do anything? Entities can act only in accordance with their natures; nothing can make them violate their natures . . .
“God” as traditionally defined is a systematic contradiction of every valid metaphysical principle. The point is wider than just the Judeo-Christian concept of God. No argument will get you from this world to a supernatural world. No reason will lead you to a world contradicting this one. No method of inference will enable you to leap from existence to a “super-existence.”
Nonsense. Some people posit higher dimension,s etc. That could be closer to what some religious types state as transcendent, for example.
In my particular religion, it is known as exalted, a deity in what that 'transcendence' is.
yes they do
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http://youtu.be/RQPRqHZRP68
According to this twisted logic and insane mental argument, unicorn certainly exists in our world too!!!!
Yes there's a unicorn running the Chinese Communist Party.
You really have nothing up your sleeve....
Among other things, I have the fact that you're a WuMao for the CCP.
OK, am I suppose to believe you...without any facts?
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Right?
You are another lying redneck?
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I am sure you concur!
I concur that you're a little WuMao.
You are going to take duke's place as a redneck!
And you'll be the chief WuMao of this newsgroup?
You have to explain the term to all our human beings here first before people understand your rant!!!!!!!!! Cunt the Neocon!
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http://youtu.be/RQPRqHZRP68
I've seen Plaintiga before. He is definitely worth watching.
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http://youtu.be/RQPRqHZRP68
Premise 1 is not accepted. You're DONE!
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Premise 1 is not accepted. You're DONE!
I don't see any point of arguing over this. If you believe,
believe. If you don't, don't. If you have a god shaped hole in
your life, search for ways to fill it. If you don't have a god
shaped hole, carry on without a god.

Premise 2 is a trick used to sneak a math definition into a fuzzy
english sentence: (exists e)(e in A) = A/={}, or a true
existential proves the set it describes is not empty. But english
is a lot fuzzier on whether existentials requires existence.
(Universal quantification yields true over an empty set.
Existential quantification yields false over an empty set.) The
statement is fuzzier on a whether premise is a hypothetical or an
axiom. Hypotheticals have little use outside of modus tollens.

Premise 3 is an invalid inference. A counterexample is the ball
exists in one roulette wheel slot; it cannot be in all slots. You
can't simply turn an existential into a universal.

Premise 4 and 5 are valid ways to remove and add a quantifier.
The problem is premise 1, 2, 3 are crap, and valid
transformations of crap are still crap.

The 'necessary' entities is also crap. I reject assumed
universals like numbers or 'laws of logic'. It was unassaible
truth that not even god can make the sum of a triangle anything
other than 180. Apparently god is incapable doing elliptic
geometry (>180) or hyperbolic (<180). I imagine a region in the
universe with numerous black holes in close proximity shredding
time and space into complete chaos. This where Azathoth sleeps.

Definitions in math are short hand for objects, if any, that
match the criteria. A definition cannot imply anything, including
existence, of the object. Existence and other properties must be
established independently. I can define a square circle, but I
still have to prove any object matches the definition.

'Maximally great being' is again fuzzy emglish rammed into math.
To define this I would need to define the orderring being used to
compare. An orderring is defined structure with max and min.
However max and min don't always exists nor necessarily unique: I
have to prove the order is a lattice for that.

There's a lot of machinery underlying even mundane statements of
math to avoid proving crap.

Prove 'imperfection' is a 'lesser making property'.

Defining a maximally great being is possible, but it still
necessary to prove an object fits the definition. Define a
unicorn as one horned equinine that must exist in all possible
worlds. So a unicorn is defined. Does any object match this
definition?


The argument is mathematically absurd. The question is easy: do
you believe or not? That's the beginning and end of the argument.
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