Post by Bob Duncan Post by Kevrob Post by Bob Duncan Post by Kevrob Post by Bob Duncan Post by Kevrob Post by Bob Duncan Post by Kevrob
His poisonous personality is tailor-made to repel
people from his religion, so maybe Yap is onto something.
Too bad you can't prove that's true. You probably wish you could stop
lying and holding grudges against those who have exposed the real you.
A mere _question_ about a poster's veracity is considered a "lie?"
"His poisonous personality is tailor-made to repel
people from his religion..."
I know that's a lie, that you cannot prove is true.
It's an _opinion_ based on your interaction with
the group. It might have been more accurate to write
"seems" rather than "is."
But you didn't. That's why it's a lie, and you're a liar.
Post by Kevrob Post by Bob Duncan
And it wasn't a question.
So there's your second lie.
Whether or not you are a Poe was a question.
There was no question mark.
There's your third lie.
Where I asked: "Duncan, a Poe?"
I was not responding to that, which anyone with a brain, and lacks the
propensity for telling lies, would have seen. I didn't include that in
my response. All I pointed out was the impossibility of you proving that
I have a "poisonous personality" that "is tailor-made to repel people
from his religion". That's not a question.
That alone proves that you are a liar. I'm an Augustinian Reformed
Christian. It's impossible to repel anyone away from Christianity if God
has elected them for regeneration and salvation. You know that fact
about Augustinianism by now.
In your attempt to get out of one lie, you make up two more lies. You're
mentally, and very desperately, sick.
Post by Kevrob Post by Bob Duncan Post by Kevrob Post by Bob Duncan
You lie without even knowing you're lying.
You're mentally sick.
I'm not the one _seemingly_ obsessed with spouting
religious drivel where proselytizing is off-charter.
Show me where I have tried to convince anyone there is a God.
You info-dump long Calvinist tracts & link to videos
of preachers/theologians/other cranks spouting ghod-
Can you not stop lying for just a minute?
Again, show me where I have tried to convince anyone there is a God.
Don't bother. You can't.
You have told us your info-dumps are for the benefit of
not-yet-"regenerated" folks who are, I suppose, unknowing
members of your "elect." In normal-people language, you
are preaching to the "lurkers." Run of the mill alt.atheism
"reprobates" are not supposed to be your targets.
Of course, you have no way of knowing whether or not it is part
of Yahooey's plan to eventualy "regenerate" even "scum" like me.
Or have you been given the Heavenly Guest List?
It's all nonsensical pilpul.
Post by Bob Duncan Post by Kevrob Post by Bob Duncan Post by Kevrob
Nor do I have delusions of grandeur
Translation: "But I AM Napoleon!"
That's just more proof that you are a liar.
And that you don't know your Bugs Bunny. :)
Post by Bob Duncan Post by Kevrob
For you to be of an "elect," there would have to
be someone doing the electing.
Nobody is doing that.
Prove it. Or else that's the fourth (or fifth) lie from
a very mentally sick liar.
Once again, the believer demands the non-believer disprove the
mythology, instead of its advocate proving it.
One assumes there is no ghod, absent sufficient evidence that
there is one. Then an advocate of one particular theism would
have to establish that the sect they follow has the correct view
of things, compared to all the others. What if it were those
evil Arminians who got things right? Or the Hindus? Or the
animism of some undiscovered tribe in the Amazon? To atheists,
all these belief systems are equivalent, at least epistemologically.
On a personal level, the only theism that would make sense to me,
based on a knowledge of human history, is a hands-off "divine being"
or beings on the model of the Deists, an author of "natural law,"
but not necessarily a judge of mankind, with no promise of life after
death, no need for worship and no need for prayer. Such a ghod not
being imminent, prayer would not be any more useful than meditation.
That kind of ghod would seem sterile and uncomforting to most, and is
as near to no ghod at all, at least functionally, as to make no difference.
A ghod like that may have once existed, but since creating the universe,
its existence may have ended. The pandeists suggest it put all of its
essence into its creation, and becoming it.
I don't believe any of that, but it makes as much sense as any other
mythology, and avoids many of the logical pitfalls of the popular creeds:
notably theodicy (the problem of evil.)
People want to be comforted by their legends. Truths that disquiet
are often ignored. Oh, sure, "behave or you will face eternal
punishment" is no comfort to those who will not bend the knee to the
mythical torturers. It may be to those convinced they will escape
such chastisement. There's the stench of a child's smugness when
his sibling is caught misbehaving, while, at least temporarily,
being a "good little boy" (or girl.)
[See Aquinas' gloss on Isaiah:
Wherefore in order that the happiness of the saints may be more
delightful to them and that they may render more copious thanks
to God for it, they are allowed to see perfectly the sufferings
of the damned.
That's just sick.
There are people I don't agree with - Marxists, for example -
whose philosophy I consider wrong and even evil. I don't
castigate their every statement as a "lie." There have certainly
been those who adopted Marxism as a tool to gain power, and those
who regurgitated its maxims in order to get along in life under
Communist regimes. Those last are not unlike "believers" who
mumbled the prayers, sang the hymns and took the oaths without
really believing the local dominant religion, just to avoid
persecution. Some of those Commies were, to borrow Hoffer's phrase,
"true believers." What they believed was horrible, but they were
What cane into question was whether "Robert Duncan" believes all
this Calvinist drivel, or is just having us on. Poe's Law:
Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is
utterly impossible to parody a Creationist in such a way that someone
won't mistake for the genuine article.
Sub in "Calvinist" for "creationist" and "Bob's your uncle."
(And what a nasty Thanksgiving dinner that would make!)