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Steve Nash Does Not Know the Bible, or it's Author
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Bob Duncan
2021-09-16 09:20:34 UTC
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Steve Nash Does Not Know the Bible, or it's Author


Romans 6
What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound?
By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? Do you not
know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were
baptized into his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism
into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by
the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life.

For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we shall
certainly be united with him in a resurrection like his. We know that
our old self was crucified with him in order that the body of sin might
be brought to nothing, so that we would no longer be enslaved to sin.
For one who has died has been set free from sin. Now if we have died
with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him. We know that
Christ, being raised from the dead, will never die again; death no
longer has dominion over him. For the death he died he died to sin, once
for all, but the life he lives he lives to God. So you also must
consider yourselves dead to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus.

Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, to make you obey its
passions. Do not present your members to sin as instruments for
unrighteousness, but present yourselves to God as those who have been
brought from death to life, and your members to God as instruments for
righteousness. For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not
under law but under grace.

What then? Are we to sin because we are not under law but under grace?
By no means! Do you not know that if you present yourselves to anyone as
obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin,
which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness? But
thanks be to God, that you who were once slaves of sin have become
obedient from the heart to the standard of teaching to which you were
committed, and, having been set free from sin, have become slaves of
righteousness. I am speaking in human terms, because of your natural
limitations. For just as you once presented your members as slaves to
impurity and to lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so now present
your members as slaves to righteousness leading to sanctification.

For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to
righteousness. But what fruit were you getting at that time from the
things of which you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is
death. But now that you have been set free from sin and have become
slaves of God, the fruit you get leads to sanctification and its end,
eternal life. For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is
eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
--
God exists, uncreated and transcendental to space and time.
.
Bob Duncan
2021-09-16 22:42:18 UTC
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Steve Nash Does Not Know the Bible, or it's Author

Romans 6:1-4
What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound?
By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? Do you not
know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were
baptized into his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism
into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by
the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life.
--
God exists, uncreated and transcendental to space and time.
.
Bob Duncan
2021-09-16 23:03:11 UTC
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Steve Nash Does Not Know the Bible, or it's Author

Romans 6:5-11
For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be united with him in a resurrection like his. We know that our old self was crucified with him in order that the body of sin might be brought to nothing, so that we would no longer be enslaved to sin. For one who has died has been set free from sin. Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him. We know that Christ, being raised from the dead, will never die again; death no longer has dominion over him. For the death he died he died to sin, once for all, but the life he lives he lives to God. So you also must consider yourselves dead to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus.
--
God exists, uncreated and transcendental to space and time.
.
Bob Duncan
2021-09-16 23:13:15 UTC
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Steve Nash Does Not Know the Bible, or it's Author

Romans 6:12-14
Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, to make you obey its passions. Do not present your members to sin as instruments for unrighteousness, but present yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life, and your members to God as instruments for righteousness. For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace.
--
God exists, uncreated and transcendental to space and time.
.
Bob Duncan
2021-09-16 23:15:21 UTC
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Steve Nash Does Not Know the Bible, or it's Author

Romans 6:15-19
What then? Are we to sin because we are not under law but under grace? By no means! Do you not know that if you present yourselves to anyone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness? But thanks be to God, that you who were once slaves of sin have become obedient from the heart to the standard of teaching to which you were committed, and, having been set free from sin, have become slaves of righteousness. I am speaking in human terms, because of your natural limitations. For just as you once presented your members as slaves to impurity and to lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so now present your members as slaves to righteousness leading to sanctification.
--
God exists, uncreated and transcendental to space and time.
.
Bob Duncan
2021-09-16 23:19:13 UTC
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Steve Nash Does Not Know the Bible, or it's Author

Romans 6:20-23
For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness. But what fruit were you getting at that time from the things of which you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death. But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the fruit you get leads to sanctification and its end, eternal life. For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
--
God exists, uncreated and transcendental to space and time.
.
Michael Christ
2021-09-16 23:27:44 UTC
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Post by Bob Duncan
Steve Nash Does Not Know the Bible, or it's Author
Romans 6:20-23
For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness. But what fruit were you getting at that time from the things of which you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death. But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the fruit you get leads to sanctification and its end, eternal life. For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
The wages of sin is death, yet you are still a sinner and saved?

Only with sin accommodating sinful man religion can you make wrong look
like right and right look like wrong.

That'll work.





Michael Christ
--
Rom 5:8  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory".

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything".

"Sin is not what you do, it is what you are".

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God".

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination".

"Compromise will condemn you".

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus".

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all".

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life".

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything".

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying 'prove it' [as a foundation] is merely a straw man, to a straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."
Bob Duncan
2021-09-16 23:21:50 UTC
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Steve Nash Does Not Know the Bible, or it's Author

Romans 7:1-3
Or do you not know, brothers--for I am speaking to those who know the law--that the law is binding on a person only as long as he lives? For a married woman is bound by law to her husband while he lives, but if her husband dies she is released from the law of marriage. Accordingly, she will be called an adulteress if she lives with another man while her husband is alive. But if her husband dies, she is free from that law, and if she marries another man she is not an adulteress.
--
God exists, uncreated and transcendental to space and time.
.
Bob Duncan
2021-09-16 23:24:42 UTC
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Steve Nash Does Not Know the Bible, or it's Author

Romans 7:4-6
Likewise, my brothers, you also have died to the law through the body of Christ, so that you may belong to another, to him who has been raised from the dead, in order that we may bear fruit for God. For while we were living in the flesh, our sinful passions, aroused by the law, were at work in our members to bear fruit for death. But now we are released from the law, having died to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code.
--
God exists, uncreated and transcendental to space and time.
.
Bob Duncan
2021-09-16 23:30:26 UTC
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Steve Nash Does Not Know the Bible, or it's Author

Romans 7:7-12
What then shall we say? That the law is sin? By no means! Yet if it had not been for the law, I would not have known sin. For I would not have known what it is to covet if the law had not said, "You shall not covet." But sin, seizing an opportunity through the commandment, produced in me all kinds of covetousness. For apart from the law, sin lies dead. I was once alive apart from the law, but when the commandment came, sin came alive and I died. The very commandment that promised life proved to be death to me. For sin, seizing an opportunity through the commandment, deceived me and through it killed me. So the law is holy, and the commandment is holy and righteous and good.
--
God exists, uncreated and transcendental to space and time.
.
Bob Duncan
2021-09-16 23:35:24 UTC
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Steve Nash Does Not Know the Bible, or it's Author

Romans 7:13-20
Did that which is good, then, bring death to me? By no means! It was sin, producing death in me through what is good, in order that sin might be shown to be sin, and through the commandment might become sinful beyond measure. For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am of the flesh, sold under sin. For I do not understand my own actions. For I do not do what I want, but I do the very thing I hate. Now if I do what I do not want, I agree with the law, that it is good. So now it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me. For I know that nothing good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh. For I have the desire to do what is right, but not the ability to carry it out. For I do not do the good I want, but the evil I do not want is what I keep on doing. Now if I do what I do not want, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me.
--
God exists, uncreated and transcendental to space and time.
.
Bob Duncan
2021-09-16 23:50:42 UTC
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Steve Nash Does Not Know the Bible, or it's Author

Romans 7:21-25
So I find it to be a law that when I want to do right, evil lies close at hand. For I delight in the law of God, in my inner being, but I see in my members another law waging war against the law of my mind and making me captive to the law of sin that dwells in my members. Wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself serve the law of God with my mind, but with my flesh I serve the law of sin.
--
God exists, uncreated and transcendental to space and time.
.
Michael Christ
2021-09-17 00:42:37 UTC
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Post by Bob Duncan
Steve Nash Does Not Know the Bible, or it's Author
Romans 7:21-25
So I find it to be a law that when I want to do right, evil lies close at hand. For I delight in the law of God, in my inner being, but I see in my members another law waging war against the law of my mind and making me captive to the law of sin that dwells in my members. Wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself serve the law of God with my mind, but with my flesh I serve the law of sin.
What you don't understand is that Paul a slave, a servant, sold-out
fully to God, is talking about his physical body, being physically
restrained, not some sin state in his being.

How can you be a slave of God and yet still serve sin??? There is no
two masters to serve.

You sinners grab what he says and hold on to it as some justification
for your sinful state.

Rom_7:18  ====>>> For I know that in me (THAT IS, IN MY FLESH,)<<<===
dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; ***but how to
perform that which is good I find not***.

So he was incapable of doing any good?? Is that it??

His physical body is dead and dying, that is what he is talking about.

Rom 7:24  O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body
of this death?

Body of death, 'body'. Physical body.

He can't stay awake 24/7 and pray and help people, he has to stop and
self-serve, eat, sleep, defecate, tend is physical health of this
dying/dead physical body etc., etc.

That which he didn't want to do, he had to do because he was constrained
by his physical decaying demanding body.

He was an apostle of God, a slave/servant/son of God, not a swinging
door modern day theology sin-accommodating religion sinner.





Michael Christ
--
Rom 5:8  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory".

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything".

"Sin is not what you do, it is what you are".

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God".

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination".

"Compromise will condemn you".

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus".

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all".

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life".

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything".

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying 'prove it' [as a foundation] is merely a straw man, to a straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."
Kevrob
2021-09-17 00:55:51 UTC
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Post by Bob Duncan
Steve Nash Does Not Know the Bible, or it's Author
[snip]
How can you be a slave of God and yet still serve sin??? There is no
two masters to serve.
[snip]

Take it outside, trolls.

--
Kevin R
a.a #2310
Bob Duncan
2021-09-17 02:05:15 UTC
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Here's Proof Steve Nash Does Not Know the Bible, or it's Author

Romans 7
Or do you not know, brothers--for I am speaking to those who know the
law--that the law is binding on a person only as long as he lives? For a
married woman is bound by law to her husband while he lives, but if her
husband dies she is released from the law of marriage. Accordingly, she
will be called an adulteress if she lives with another man while her
husband is alive. But if her husband dies, she is free from that law,
and if she marries another man she is not an adulteress. Likewise, my
brothers, you also have died to the law through the body of Christ, so
that you may belong to another, to him who has been raised from the
dead, in order that we may bear fruit for God. For while we were living
in the flesh, our sinful passions, aroused by the law, were at work in
our members to bear fruit for death. But now we are released from the
law, having died to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the
new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code. What
then shall we say? That the law is sin? By no means! Yet if it had not
been for the law, I would not have known sin. For I would not have known
what it is to covet if the law had not said, "You shall not covet." But
sin, seizing an opportunity through the commandment, produced in me all
kinds of covetousness. For apart from the law, sin lies dead. I was once
alive apart from the law, but when the commandment came, sin came alive
and I died. The very commandment that promised life proved to be death
to me. For sin, seizing an opportunity through the commandment, deceived
me and through it killed me. So the law is holy, and the commandment is
holy and righteous and good. Did that which is good, then, bring death
to me? By no means! It was sin, producing death in me through what is
good, in order that sin might be shown to be sin, and through the
commandment might become sinful beyond measure. For we know that the law
is spiritual, but I am of the flesh, sold under sin. For I do not
understand my own actions. For I do not do what I want, but I do the
very thing I hate. Now if I do what I do not want, I agree with the law,
that it is good. So now it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells
within me. For I know that nothing good dwells in me, that is, in my
flesh. For I have the desire to do what is right, but not the ability to
carry it out. For I do not do the good I want, but the evil I do not
want is what I keep on doing. Now if I do what I do not want, it is no
longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me. So I find it to be a
law that when I want to do right, evil lies close at hand. For I delight
in the law of God, in my inner being, but I see in my members another
law waging war against the law of my mind and making me captive to the
law of sin that dwells in my members. Wretched man that I am! Who will
deliver me from this body of death? Thanks be to God through Jesus
Christ our Lord! So then, I myself serve the law of God with my mind,
but with my flesh I serve the law of sin.
--
God exists, uncreated and transcendental to space and time.
.
Bob Duncan
2021-09-18 14:15:29 UTC
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Wanking your religious bent will never make you clean.
=================================================================

I never said it would. Why do you have to lie so much?

My "religion" doesn't make me clean. My "religion" proclaims why those
like me, who have been born-again and regenerated by the Holy Spirit,
are clean.

Once again, you prove that you do not know the Bible, nor it's Author.

Romans 6
What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound?
By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? Do you not
know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were
baptized into his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism
into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by
the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life. For if we
have been united with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be
united with him in a resurrection like his. We know that our old self
was crucified with him in order that the body of sin might be brought to
nothing, so that we would no longer be enslaved to sin. For one who has
died has been set free from sin. Now if we have died with Christ, we
believe that we will also live with him. We know that Christ, being
raised from the dead, will never die again; death no longer has dominion
over him. For the death he died he died to sin, once for all, but the
life he lives he lives to God. So you also must consider yourselves dead
to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus. Let not sin therefore reign in
your mortal body, to make you obey its passions. Do not present your
members to sin as instruments for unrighteousness, but present
yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life, and
your members to God as instruments for righteousness. For sin will have
no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace. What
then? Are we to sin because we are not under law but under grace? By no
means! Do you not know that if you present yourselves to anyone as
obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin,
which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness? But
thanks be to God, that you who were once slaves of sin have become
obedient from the heart to the standard of teaching to which you were
committed, and, having been set free from sin, have become slaves of
righteousness. I am speaking in human terms, because of your natural
limitations. For just as you once presented your members as slaves to
impurity and to lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so now present
your members as slaves to righteousness leading to sanctification. For
when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness.
But what fruit were you getting at that time from the things of which
you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death. But now that
you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the fruit
you get leads to sanctification and its end, eternal life. For the wages
of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ
Jesus our Lord.
--
God exists, uncreated and transcendental to space and time.
.
Bob Duncan
2021-09-19 01:02:27 UTC
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Once again, you contradict the Bible. And you prove that you do not know
the Bible, nor it's Author.

Romans 6
What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound?
By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? Do you not
know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were
baptized into his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism
into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by
the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life. For if we
have been united with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be
united with him in a resurrection like his. We know that our old self
was crucified with him in order that the body of sin might be brought to
nothing, so that we would no longer be enslaved to sin. For one who has
died has been set free from sin. Now if we have died with Christ, we
believe that we will also live with him. We know that Christ, being
raised from the dead, will never die again; death no longer has dominion
over him. For the death he died he died to sin, once for all, but the
life he lives he lives to God. So you also must consider yourselves dead
to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus. Let not sin therefore reign in
your mortal body, to make you obey its passions. Do not present your
members to sin as instruments for unrighteousness, but present
yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life, and
your members to God as instruments for righteousness. For sin will have
no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace. What
then? Are we to sin because we are not under law but under grace? By no
means! Do you not know that if you present yourselves to anyone as
obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin,
which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness? But
thanks be to God, that you who were once slaves of sin have become
obedient from the heart to the standard of teaching to which you were
committed, and, having been set free from sin, have become slaves of
righteousness. I am speaking in human terms, because of your natural
limitations. For just as you once presented your members as slaves to
impurity and to lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so now present
your members as slaves to righteousness leading to sanctification. For
when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness.
But what fruit were you getting at that time from the things of which
you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death. But now that
you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the fruit
you get leads to sanctification and its end, eternal life. For the wages
of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ
Jesus our Lord.
--
God exists, uncreated and transcendental to space and time.
.
Michael Christ
2021-09-19 01:33:50 UTC
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It doesn't seem to bother him though. Obviously, we all need to just
live with it.

You're a sinner, Bob.

And sinners sin against God and their neighbour.

All you do every day is decide how.







Michael Christ
Post by Bob Duncan
Once again, you contradict the Bible. And you prove that you do not know
the Bible, nor it's Author.
Romans 6
What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound?
By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? Do you not
know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were
baptized into his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism
into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by
the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life. For if we
have been united with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be
united with him in a resurrection like his. We know that our old self
was crucified with him in order that the body of sin might be brought to
nothing, so that we would no longer be enslaved to sin. For one who has
died has been set free from sin. Now if we have died with Christ, we
believe that we will also live with him. We know that Christ, being
raised from the dead, will never die again; death no longer has dominion
over him. For the death he died he died to sin, once for all, but the
life he lives he lives to God. So you also must consider yourselves dead
to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus. Let not sin therefore reign in
your mortal body, to make you obey its passions. Do not present your
members to sin as instruments for unrighteousness, but present
yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life, and
your members to God as instruments for righteousness. For sin will have
no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace. What
then? Are we to sin because we are not under law but under grace? By no
means! Do you not know that if you present yourselves to anyone as
obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin,
which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness? But
thanks be to God, that you who were once slaves of sin have become
obedient from the heart to the standard of teaching to which you were
committed, and, having been set free from sin, have become slaves of
righteousness. I am speaking in human terms, because of your natural
limitations. For just as you once presented your members as slaves to
impurity and to lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so now present
your members as slaves to righteousness leading to sanctification. For
when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness.
But what fruit were you getting at that time from the things of which
you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death. But now that
you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the fruit
you get leads to sanctification and its end, eternal life. For the wages
of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ
Jesus our Lord.
--
Rom 5:8  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory".

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything".

"Sin is not what you do, it is what you are".

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God".

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination".

"Compromise will condemn you".

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus".

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all".

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life".

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything".

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying 'prove it' [as a foundation] is merely a straw man, to a straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."
Bob Duncan
2021-09-23 10:36:58 UTC
Permalink
Post by Michael Christ
You're a sinner, Bob.
So are you, Steve.
--
God exists, uncreated and transcendental to space and time.
.
Bob Duncan
2021-09-23 10:41:51 UTC
Permalink
Post by Michael Christ
You're a sinner, Bob.
So are you, Steve.
--
God exists, uncreated and transcendental to space and time.
.
Michael Christ
2021-09-23 22:00:30 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bob Duncan
Post by Michael Christ
You're a sinner, Bob.
So are you, Steve.
Sorry, not any more, unbeliever, for in God in all things He is the
great redeemer, more than a conqueror, but your 'unproven' :-) hypocrite
ignorant claim, for the record, does not exonerate you, Duncan, you
silly rebellious child and heretic person.

You are NOT a true believer, Bob Duncan. You people see all the flaws,
inconsistencies, and pretenses in your churches but you never take the
next step and ask the obvious, are we really The Church of God??

Which, by the way, drove me to go beyond your shallow sinner
accommodating hollow religions.





Michael Christ
--
Rom 5:8  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory".

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything".

"Sin is not what you do, it is what you are".

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God".

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination".

"Compromise will condemn you".

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus".

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all".

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life".

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything".

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying 'prove it' [as a foundation] is merely a straw man, to a straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."
Bob Duncan
2021-09-23 22:27:34 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bob Duncan
Post by Michael Christ
You're a sinner, Bob.
So are you, Steve.
Sorry, not any more.
Yes you are.
--
God exists, uncreated and transcendental to space and time.
.
Michael Christ
2021-09-23 23:37:16 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bob Duncan
Post by Bob Duncan
Post by Michael Christ
You're a sinner, Bob.
So are you, Steve.
Sorry, not any more.
Yes you are.
The wages of sin is death, Bob, and the Lord Jesus is life.

Sorry, sinner selfish snipper, you missed the boat, Smirky.

Is it any wonder though??

Isn't it going to be ironic, sinner, when the day comes and you
get...smirked!

You had every opportunity to truly repent of your sin and believe in God.






Michael Christ
--
Rom 5:8  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory".

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything".

"Sin is not what you do, it is what you are".

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God".

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination".

"Compromise will condemn you".

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus".

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all".

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life".

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything".

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying 'prove it' [as a foundation] is merely a straw man, to a straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."
Tim
2021-09-23 22:31:04 UTC
Permalink
Post by Michael Christ
Post by Bob Duncan
Post by Michael Christ
You're a sinner, Bob.
So are you, Steve.
Sorry, not any more,
Yes you are, stevie.

Even theists see through you!
Post by Michael Christ
unbeliever, for in God in all things He is the
great redeemer, more than a conqueror, but your 'unproven' :-) hypocrite
ignorant claim, for the record, does not exonerate you, Duncan, you
silly rebellious child and heretic person.
You are NOT a true believer, Bob Duncan. You people see all the flaws,
inconsistencies, and pretenses in your churches but you never take the
next step and ask the obvious, are we really The Church of God??
Which, by the way, drove me to go beyond your shallow sinner
accommodating hollow religions.
LOL!
Michael Christ
2021-09-19 01:03:04 UTC
Permalink
You're a sinner, Bob.

And sinners sin against God and their neighbour.

All you do every day is decide how.




Michael Christ
Post by Bob Duncan
Wanking your religious bent will never make you clean.
=================================================================
I never said it would. Why do you have to lie so much?
My "religion" doesn't make me clean. My "religion" proclaims why those
like me, who have been born-again and regenerated by the Holy Spirit,
are clean.
Once again, you prove that you do not know the Bible, nor it's Author.
Romans 6
What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound?
By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? Do you not
know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were
baptized into his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism
into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by
the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life. For if we
have been united with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be
united with him in a resurrection like his. We know that our old self
was crucified with him in order that the body of sin might be brought to
nothing, so that we would no longer be enslaved to sin. For one who has
died has been set free from sin. Now if we have died with Christ, we
believe that we will also live with him. We know that Christ, being
raised from the dead, will never die again; death no longer has dominion
over him. For the death he died he died to sin, once for all, but the
life he lives he lives to God. So you also must consider yourselves dead
to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus. Let not sin therefore reign in
your mortal body, to make you obey its passions. Do not present your
members to sin as instruments for unrighteousness, but present
yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life, and
your members to God as instruments for righteousness. For sin will have
no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace. What
then? Are we to sin because we are not under law but under grace? By no
means! Do you not know that if you present yourselves to anyone as
obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin,
which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness? But
thanks be to God, that you who were once slaves of sin have become
obedient from the heart to the standard of teaching to which you were
committed, and, having been set free from sin, have become slaves of
righteousness. I am speaking in human terms, because of your natural
limitations. For just as you once presented your members as slaves to
impurity and to lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so now present
your members as slaves to righteousness leading to sanctification. For
when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness.
But what fruit were you getting at that time from the things of which
you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death. But now that
you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the fruit
you get leads to sanctification and its end, eternal life. For the wages
of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ
Jesus our Lord.
--
Rom 5:8  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory".

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything".

"Sin is not what you do, it is what you are".

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God".

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination".

"Compromise will condemn you".

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus".

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all".

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life".

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything".

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying 'prove it' [as a foundation] is merely a straw man, to a straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."
El Kabong
2021-09-20 05:25:24 UTC
Permalink
Post by Michael Christ
You're a sinner, Bob.
And sinners sin against God and their neighbour.
All you do every day is decide how.
Have you been regenerated?
Michael Christ
2021-09-20 09:10:14 UTC
Permalink
Post by El Kabong
Post by Michael Christ
You're a sinner, Bob.
And sinners sin against God and their neighbour.
All you do every day is decide how.
Have you been regenerated?
Clever boy nowhere.

I know you.

That should answer your jealous question.

And you should be.





Michael Christ
--
Rom 5:8  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory".

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything".

"Sin is not what you do, it is what you are".

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God".

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination".

"Compromise will condemn you".

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus".

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all".

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life".

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything".

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying 'prove it' [as a foundation] is merely a straw man, to a straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."
Bob Duncan
2021-09-18 00:12:33 UTC
Permalink
Here's Proof Steve Nash Does Not Know the Bible, or it's Author

Romans 6
What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound?
By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? Do you not
know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were
baptized into his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism
into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by
the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life. For if we
have been united with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be
united with him in a resurrection like his. We know that our old self
was crucified with him in order that the body of sin might be brought to
nothing, so that we would no longer be enslaved to sin. For one who has
died has been set free from sin. Now if we have died with Christ, we
believe that we will also live with him. We know that Christ, being
raised from the dead, will never die again; death no longer has dominion
over him. For the death he died he died to sin, once for all, but the
life he lives he lives to God. So you also must consider yourselves dead
to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus. Let not sin therefore reign in
your mortal body, to make you obey its passions. Do not present your
members to sin as instruments for unrighteousness, but present
yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life, and
your members to God as instruments for righteousness. For sin will have
no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace. What
then? Are we to sin because we are not under law but under grace? By no
means! Do you not know that if you present yourselves to anyone as
obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin,
which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness? But
thanks be to God, that you who were once slaves of sin have become
obedient from the heart to the standard of teaching to which you were
committed, and, having been set free from sin, have become slaves of
righteousness. I am speaking in human terms, because of your natural
limitations. For just as you once presented your members as slaves to
impurity and to lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so now present
your members as slaves to righteousness leading to sanctification. For
when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness.
But what fruit were you getting at that time from the things of which
you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death. But now that
you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the fruit
you get leads to sanctification and its end, eternal life. For the wages
of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ
Jesus our Lord.
--
God exists, uncreated and transcendental to space and time.
.
Michael Christ
2021-09-18 00:15:14 UTC
Permalink
That's whoredom.

And bible quoting won't make that into a silk purse.

Can you pass that on to holy Mac??






Michael Christ
Post by Bob Duncan
Here's Proof Steve Nash Does Not Know the Bible, or it's Author
Romans 6
What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound?
By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? Do you not
know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were
baptized into his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism
into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by
the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life. For if we
have been united with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be
united with him in a resurrection like his. We know that our old self
was crucified with him in order that the body of sin might be brought to
nothing, so that we would no longer be enslaved to sin. For one who has
died has been set free from sin. Now if we have died with Christ, we
believe that we will also live with him. We know that Christ, being
raised from the dead, will never die again; death no longer has dominion
over him. For the death he died he died to sin, once for all, but the
life he lives he lives to God. So you also must consider yourselves dead
to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus. Let not sin therefore reign in
your mortal body, to make you obey its passions. Do not present your
members to sin as instruments for unrighteousness, but present
yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life, and
your members to God as instruments for righteousness. For sin will have
no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace. What
then? Are we to sin because we are not under law but under grace? By no
means! Do you not know that if you present yourselves to anyone as
obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin,
which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness? But
thanks be to God, that you who were once slaves of sin have become
obedient from the heart to the standard of teaching to which you were
committed, and, having been set free from sin, have become slaves of
righteousness. I am speaking in human terms, because of your natural
limitations. For just as you once presented your members as slaves to
impurity and to lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so now present
your members as slaves to righteousness leading to sanctification. For
when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness.
But what fruit were you getting at that time from the things of which
you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death. But now that
you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the fruit
you get leads to sanctification and its end, eternal life. For the wages
of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ
Jesus our Lord.
--
Rom 5:8  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory".

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything".

"Sin is not what you do, it is what you are".

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God".

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination".

"Compromise will condemn you".

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus".

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all".

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life".

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything".

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying 'prove it' [as a foundation] is merely a straw man, to a straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."
John Ritson
2021-09-18 09:47:02 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bob Duncan
Here's Proof Steve Nash Does Not Know the Bible, or it's Author
Romans 6
What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound?
By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? Do you not
know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were
baptized into his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism
into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by
the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life. For if we
have been united with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be
united with him in a resurrection like his.
Nothing certain about that at all.
Post by Bob Duncan
We know that our old self
was crucified with him in order that the body of sin might be brought to
nothing, so that we would no longer be enslaved to sin. For one who has
died has been set free from sin. Now if we have died with Christ, we
believe that we will also live with him. We know that Christ, being
raised from the dead, will never die again;
So Lazarus must still be alive. Where exactly?
Post by Bob Duncan
death no longer has dominion
over him. For the death he died he died to sin, once for all, but the
life he lives he lives to God. So you also must consider yourselves dead
to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus. Let not sin therefore reign in
your mortal body, to make you obey its passions. Do not present your
members to sin as instruments for unrighteousness, but present
yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life, and
your members to God as instruments for righteousness. For sin will have
no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace. What
then? Are we to sin because we are not under law but under grace? By no
means! Do you not know that if you present yourselves to anyone as
obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin,
which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness? But
thanks be to God, that you who were once slaves of sin have become
obedient from the heart to the standard of teaching to which you were
committed, and, having been set free from sin, have become slaves of
righteousness. I am speaking in human terms, because of your natural
limitations. For just as you once presented your members as slaves to
impurity and to lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so now present
your members as slaves to righteousness leading to sanctification. For
when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness.
But what fruit were you getting at that time from the things of which
you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death. But now that
you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the fruit
you get leads to sanctification and its end, eternal life. For the wages
of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ
Jesus our Lord.
--
John Ritson
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Michelle Malkin
2021-09-20 14:32:55 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bob Duncan
Post by Bob Duncan
Here's Proof Steve Nash Does Not Know the Bible, or it's Author
Romans 6
What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound?
By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? Do you not
know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were
baptized into his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism
into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by
the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life. For if we
have been united with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be
united with him in a resurrection like his.
We know that our old self
Shouldn't that be 'our own self'?
Post by Bob Duncan
was crucified with him in order that the body of sin might be brought to
nothing, so that we would no longer be enslaved to sin. For one who has
died has been set free from sin. Now if we have died with Christ, we
believe that we will also live with him. We know that Christ, being
raised from the dead, will never die again;
Nothing certain about that at all.
So Lazarus must still be alive. Where exactly?
He shows up occasionally in bad fantasy movies.
Post by Bob Duncan
Post by Bob Duncan
death no longer has dominion
over him. For the death he died he died to sin, once for all, but the
life he lives he lives to God. So you also must consider yourselves dead
to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus. Let not sin therefore reign in
your mortal body, to make you obey its passions. Do not present your
members to sin as instruments for unrighteousness, but present
yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life, and
your members to God as instruments for righteousness. For sin will have
no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace. What
then? Are we to sin because we are not under law but under grace? By no
means! Do you not know that if you present yourselves to anyone as
obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin,
which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness? But
thanks be to God, that you who were once slaves of sin have become
obedient from the heart to the standard of teaching to which you were
committed, and, having been set free from sin, have become slaves of
righteousness. I am speaking in human terms, because of your natural
limitations. For just as you once presented your members as slaves to
impurity and to lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so now present
your members as slaves to righteousness leading to sanctification. For
when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness.
But what fruit were you getting at that time from the things of which
you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death. But now that
you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the fruit
you get leads to sanctification and its end, eternal life. For the wages
of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ
Jesus our Lord.
Who determines what sin is? Churches do
a really rotten job of it. They tend to speak
for their godthing, since it can't speak for
itself. And cults are real lulus at this.
Post by Bob Duncan
John Ritson
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Michael Christ
2021-09-20 22:36:05 UTC
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Post by Michelle Malkin
Post by Bob Duncan
Post by Bob Duncan
Here's Proof Steve Nash Does Not Know the Bible, or it's Author
Romans 6
What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound?
By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? Do you not
know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were
baptized into his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism
into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by
the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life. For if we
have been united with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be
united with him in a resurrection like his.
We know that our old self
Shouldn't that be 'our own self'?
Post by Bob Duncan
was crucified with him in order that the body of sin might be brought to
nothing, so that we would no longer be enslaved to sin. For one who has
died has been set free from sin. Now if we have died with Christ, we
believe that we will also live with him. We know that Christ, being
raised from the dead, will never die again;
Nothing certain about that at all.
So Lazarus must still be alive. Where exactly?
He shows up occasionally in bad fantasy movies.
Post by Bob Duncan
Post by Bob Duncan
death no longer has dominion
over him. For the death he died he died to sin, once for all, but the
life he lives he lives to God. So you also must consider yourselves dead
to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus. Let not sin therefore reign in
your mortal body, to make you obey its passions. Do not present your
members to sin as instruments for unrighteousness, but present
yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life, and
your members to God as instruments for righteousness. For sin will have
no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace. What
then? Are we to sin because we are not under law but under grace? By no
means! Do you not know that if you present yourselves to anyone as
obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin,
which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness? But
thanks be to God, that you who were once slaves of sin have become
obedient from the heart to the standard of teaching to which you were
committed, and, having been set free from sin, have become slaves of
righteousness. I am speaking in human terms, because of your natural
limitations. For just as you once presented your members as slaves to
impurity and to lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so now present
your members as slaves to righteousness leading to sanctification. For
when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness.
But what fruit were you getting at that time from the things of which
you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death. But now that
you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the fruit
you get leads to sanctification and its end, eternal life. For the wages
of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ
Jesus our Lord.
Who determines what sin is?
God has.
Post by Michelle Malkin
Churches do
a really rotten job of it.
They don't represent Him.
Post by Michelle Malkin
They tend to speak
for their godthing, since it can't speak for
itself. And cults are real lulus at this.
God has spoken, and you know He has.

What is 'lulu' is you thinking you can blow a lot of smoke and escape
the truth. Silly, stupid, no chance.





Michael Christ
Post by Michelle Malkin
Post by Bob Duncan
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Rom 5:8  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory".

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything".

"Sin is not what you do, it is what you are".

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God".

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination".

"Compromise will condemn you".

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus".

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all".

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life".

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything".

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying 'prove it' [as a foundation] is merely a straw man, to a straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."
Bob Duncan
2021-09-19 01:10:23 UTC
Permalink
Here's Proof Steve Nash Does Not Know the Bible, nor it's Author

Romans 6
What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound?
By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? Do you not
know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were
baptized into his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism
into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by
the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life. For if we
have been united with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be
united with him in a resurrection like his. We know that our old self
was crucified with him in order that the body of sin might be brought to
nothing, so that we would no longer be enslaved to sin. For one who has
died has been set free from sin. Now if we have died with Christ, we
believe that we will also live with him. We know that Christ, being
raised from the dead, will never die again; death no longer has dominion
over him. For the death he died he died to sin, once for all, but the
life he lives he lives to God. So you also must consider yourselves dead
to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus. Let not sin therefore reign in
your mortal body, to make you obey its passions. Do not present your
members to sin as instruments for unrighteousness, but present
yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life, and
your members to God as instruments for righteousness. For sin will have
no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace. What
then? Are we to sin because we are not under law but under grace? By no
means! Do you not know that if you present yourselves to anyone as
obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin,
which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness? But
thanks be to God, that you who were once slaves of sin have become
obedient from the heart to the standard of teaching to which you were
committed, and, having been set free from sin, have become slaves of
righteousness. I am speaking in human terms, because of your natural
limitations. For just as you once presented your members as slaves to
impurity and to lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so now present
your members as slaves to righteousness leading to sanctification. For
when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness.
But what fruit were you getting at that time from the things of which
you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death. But now that
you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the fruit
you get leads to sanctification and its end, eternal life. For the wages
of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ
Jesus our Lord.
--
God exists, uncreated and transcendental to space and time.
.
--
God exists, uncreated and transcendental to space and time.
.
Bob Duncan
2021-09-19 01:11:58 UTC
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Here is Proof Steve Nash Does Not Know the Bible, nor it's Author

Romans 7
Or do you not know, brothers--for I am speaking to those who know the
law--that the law is binding on a person only as long as he lives? For a
married woman is bound by law to her husband while he lives, but if her
husband dies she is released from the law of marriage. Accordingly, she
will be called an adulteress if she lives with another man while her
husband is alive. But if her husband dies, she is free from that law,
and if she marries another man she is not an adulteress. Likewise, my
brothers, you also have died to the law through the body of Christ, so
that you may belong to another, to him who has been raised from the
dead, in order that we may bear fruit for God. For while we were living
in the flesh, our sinful passions, aroused by the law, were at work in
our members to bear fruit for death. But now we are released from the
law, having died to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the
new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code. What
then shall we say? That the law is sin? By no means! Yet if it had not
been for the law, I would not have known sin. For I would not have known
what it is to covet if the law had not said, "You shall not covet." But
sin, seizing an opportunity through the commandment, produced in me all
kinds of covetousness. For apart from the law, sin lies dead. I was once
alive apart from the law, but when the commandment came, sin came alive
and I died. The very commandment that promised life proved to be death
to me. For sin, seizing an opportunity through the commandment, deceived
me and through it killed me. So the law is holy, and the commandment is
holy and righteous and good. Did that which is good, then, bring death
to me? By no means! It was sin, producing death in me through what is
good, in order that sin might be shown to be sin, and through the
commandment might become sinful beyond measure. For we know that the law
is spiritual, but I am of the flesh, sold under sin. For I do not
understand my own actions. For I do not do what I want, but I do the
very thing I hate. Now if I do what I do not want, I agree with the law,
that it is good. So now it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells
within me. For I know that nothing good dwells in me, that is, in my
flesh. For I have the desire to do what is right, but not the ability to
carry it out. For I do not do the good I want, but the evil I do not
want is what I keep on doing. Now if I do what I do not want, it is no
longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me. So I find it to be a
law that when I want to do right, evil lies close at hand. For I delight
in the law of God, in my inner being, but I see in my members another
law waging war against the law of my mind and making me captive to the
law of sin that dwells in my members. Wretched man that I am! Who will
deliver me from this body of death? Thanks be to God through Jesus
Christ our Lord! So then, I myself serve the law of God with my mind,
but with my flesh I serve the law of sin.
--
God exists, uncreated and transcendental to space and time.
.
Bob Duncan
2021-09-19 01:14:13 UTC
Permalink
Once again, you contradict the Bible, thereby proving that you do not
know the Bible, nor it's Author.

Romans 6
What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound?
By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? Do you not
know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were
baptized into his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism
into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by
the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life. For if we
have been united with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be
united with him in a resurrection like his. We know that our old self
was crucified with him in order that the body of sin might be brought to
nothing, so that we would no longer be enslaved to sin. For one who has
died has been set free from sin. Now if we have died with Christ, we
believe that we will also live with him. We know that Christ, being
raised from the dead, will never die again; death no longer has dominion
over him. For the death he died he died to sin, once for all, but the
life he lives he lives to God. So you also must consider yourselves dead
to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus. Let not sin therefore reign in
your mortal body, to make you obey its passions. Do not present your
members to sin as instruments for unrighteousness, but present
yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life, and
your members to God as instruments for righteousness. For sin will have
no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace. What
then? Are we to sin because we are not under law but under grace? By no
means! Do you not know that if you present yourselves to anyone as
obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin,
which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness? But
thanks be to God, that you who were once slaves of sin have become
obedient from the heart to the standard of teaching to which you were
committed, and, having been set free from sin, have become slaves of
righteousness. I am speaking in human terms, because of your natural
limitations. For just as you once presented your members as slaves to
impurity and to lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so now present
your members as slaves to righteousness leading to sanctification. For
when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness.
But what fruit were you getting at that time from the things of which
you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death. But now that
you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the fruit
you get leads to sanctification and its end, eternal life. For the wages
of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ
Jesus our Lord.
--
God exists, uncreated and transcendental to space and time.
.
Bob Duncan
2021-09-19 01:54:18 UTC
Permalink
Once again, you contradict the Bible, thereby proving that you do not
know the Bible, nor it's Author.

Romans 6
What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound?
By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? Do you not
know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were
baptized into his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism
into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by
the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life. For if we
have been united with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be
united with him in a resurrection like his. We know that our old self
was crucified with him in order that the body of sin might be brought to
nothing, so that we would no longer be enslaved to sin. For one who has
died has been set free from sin. Now if we have died with Christ, we
believe that we will also live with him. We know that Christ, being
raised from the dead, will never die again; death no longer has dominion
over him. For the death he died he died to sin, once for all, but the
life he lives he lives to God. So you also must consider yourselves dead
to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus. Let not sin therefore reign in
your mortal body, to make you obey its passions. Do not present your
members to sin as instruments for unrighteousness, but present
yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life, and
your members to God as instruments for righteousness. For sin will have
no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace. What
then? Are we to sin because we are not under law but under grace? By no
means! Do you not know that if you present yourselves to anyone as
obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin,
which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness? But
thanks be to God, that *you who were once slaves of sin have become*
*obedient from the heart to the standard of teaching to which you were*
*committed, and, having been set free from sin, have become slaves of
righteousness.* I am speaking in human terms, because of your natural
limitations. For just as you once presented your members as slaves to
impurity and to lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so now present
your members as slaves to righteousness leading to sanctification. For
when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness.
But what fruit were you getting at that time from the things of which
you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death. But now that
you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the fruit
you get leads to sanctification and its end, eternal life. For the wages
of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ
Jesus our Lord.
--
God exists, uncreated and transcendental to space and time.
.
Bob Duncan
2021-09-19 01:58:44 UTC
Permalink
Once again, you contradict the Bible, thereby proving that you do not
know the Bible, nor it's Author.

Romans 6
What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound?
By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? Do you not
know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were
baptized into his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism
into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by
the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life. For if we
have been united with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be
united with him in a resurrection like his. We know that our old self
was crucified with him in order that the body of sin might be brought to
nothing, so that we would no longer be enslaved to sin. For one who has
died has been set free from sin. Now if we have died with Christ, we
believe that we will also live with him. We know that Christ, being
raised from the dead, will never die again; death no longer has dominion
over him. For the death he died he died to sin, once for all, but the
life he lives he lives to God. So you also must consider yourselves dead
to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus. Let not sin therefore reign in
your mortal body, to make you obey its passions. Do not present your
members to sin as instruments for unrighteousness, but present
yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life, and
your members to God as instruments for righteousness. For sin will have
no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace. What
then? Are we to sin because we are not under law but under grace? By no
means! Do you not know that if you present yourselves to anyone as
obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin,
which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness? But
thanks be to God, that *you who were once slaves of sin have become*
*obedient from the heart to the standard of teaching to which you were*
*committed, and, having been set free from sin, have become slaves of*
*righteousness.* I am speaking in human terms, because of your natural
limitations. For just as you once presented your members as slaves to
impurity and to lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so now present
your members as slaves to righteousness leading to sanctification. For
when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness.
But what fruit were you getting at that time from the things of which
you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death. But now that
you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the fruit
you get leads to sanctification and its end, eternal life. For the wages
of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ
Jesus our Lord.
--
God exists, uncreated and transcendental to space and time.
.
Michael Christ
2021-09-19 07:21:24 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bob Duncan
Once again, you contradict the Bible, thereby proving that you do not
know the Bible, nor it's Author.
Romans 6
What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound?
Yet, you do.






Michael Christ
Post by Bob Duncan
By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? Do you not
know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were
baptized into his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism
into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by
the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life. For if we
have been united with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be
united with him in a resurrection like his. We know that our old self
was crucified with him in order that the body of sin might be brought to
nothing, so that we would no longer be enslaved to sin. For one who has
died has been set free from sin. Now if we have died with Christ, we
believe that we will also live with him. We know that Christ, being
raised from the dead, will never die again; death no longer has dominion
over him. For the death he died he died to sin, once for all, but the
life he lives he lives to God. So you also must consider yourselves dead
to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus. Let not sin therefore reign in
your mortal body, to make you obey its passions. Do not present your
members to sin as instruments for unrighteousness, but present
yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life, and
your members to God as instruments for righteousness. For sin will have
no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace. What
then? Are we to sin because we are not under law but under grace? By no
means! Do you not know that if you present yourselves to anyone as
obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin,
which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness? But
thanks be to God, that *you who were once slaves of sin have become*
*obedient from the heart to the standard of teaching to which you were*
*committed, and, having been set free from sin, have become slaves of*
*righteousness.* I am speaking in human terms, because of your natural
limitations. For just as you once presented your members as slaves to
impurity and to lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so now present
your members as slaves to righteousness leading to sanctification. For
when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness.
But what fruit were you getting at that time from the things of which
you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death. But now that
you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the fruit
you get leads to sanctification and its end, eternal life. For the wages
of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ
Jesus our Lord.
--
Rom 5:8  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory".

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything".

"Sin is not what you do, it is what you are".

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God".

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination".

"Compromise will condemn you".

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus".

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all".

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life".

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything".

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying 'prove it' [as a foundation] is merely a straw man, to a straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."
JWS
2021-09-19 10:30:18 UTC
Permalink
This "god" of theirs obviously is not capable
of providing a single, clear message for all
of his "children" to believe in. I want to thank
you two idiots for clearly demonstrating that
simple point. Each of you makes up your own
personal bullshit that fits your bullshit brains.
What a joke.
John Locke
2021-09-19 17:07:31 UTC
Permalink
On Sun, 19 Sep 2021 08:15:01 -0500, Christopher A. Lee
Post by JWS
This "god" of theirs obviously is not capable
of providing a single, clear message for all
of his "children" to believe in. I want to thank
you two idiots for clearly demonstrating that
simple point. Each of you makes up your own
personal bullshit that fits your bullshit brains.
What a joke.
What brains?
..well, possibly the medulla oblongata, a low level
reptilian remnant that is quite prominent amongst
many Christian trolls !


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Tell people there's an invisible man in the sky who created the universe,
and the vast majority will believe you. Tell them the paint is wet, and
they have to touch it to be sure.- George Carlin
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Michael Christ
2021-09-19 22:49:39 UTC
Permalink
Post by JWS
This "god" of theirs obviously is not capable
of providing a single, clear message for all
of his "children" to believe in. I want to thank
you two idiots for clearly demonstrating that
simple point. Each of you makes up your own
personal bullshit that fits your bullshit brains.
What a joke.
Hey, maybe we should merge with yours??




Michael Christ
--
Rom 5:8  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory".

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything".

"Sin is not what you do, it is what you are".

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God".

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination".

"Compromise will condemn you".

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus".

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all".

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life".

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything".

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying 'prove it' [as a foundation] is merely a straw man, to a straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."
Bob Duncan
2021-09-19 10:30:35 UTC
Permalink
Post by Michael Christ
Post by Bob Duncan
Once again, you contradict the Bible, thereby proving that you do not
know the Bible, nor it's Author.
Romans 6
What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound?
You're not snipping me. You're snipping God and His Bible.

Romans 6 (continued)
"By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? Do you not know
that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into
his death?"
Post by Michael Christ
Yet, you do.
I wonder why Steve Nash doesn't prove that?

Steve Nash has never proved anything he has posted here.

Steve Nash is a liar.
--
God exists, uncreated and transcendental to space and time.
.
Bob Duncan
2021-09-19 10:37:12 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bob Duncan
Post by Michael Christ
Post by Bob Duncan
Once again, you contradict the Bible, thereby proving that you do not
know the Bible, nor it's Author.
Romans 6
What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound?
You're not snipping me. You're snipping God and His Bible.
Romans 6 (continued)
"By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? Do you not know
that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into
his death?"
Post by Michael Christ
Yet, you do.
I wonder why Steve Nash doesn't prove that?

Steve Nash has never proved anything he has posted here.

Steve Nash is a liar.
--
God exists, uncreated and transcendental to space and time.
.
Michael Christ
2021-09-19 22:55:17 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bob Duncan
Post by Bob Duncan
Post by Michael Christ
Post by Bob Duncan
Once again, you contradict the Bible, thereby proving that you do not
know the Bible, nor it's Author.
Romans 6
What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound?
You're not snipping me. You're snipping God and His Bible.
Romans 6 (continued)
"By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? Do you not know
that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into
his death?"
Post by Michael Christ
Yet, you do.
I wonder why Steve Nash doesn't prove that?
Steve Nash has never proved anything he has posted here.
Steve Nash is a liar.
This is easy.

Are you a sinner, Bob??

Enough said.

'Yet you do...continue in sin'.



Michael Christ
--
Rom 5:8  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory".

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything".

"Sin is not what you do, it is what you are".

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God".

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination".

"Compromise will condemn you".

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus".

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all".

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life".

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything".

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying 'prove it' [as a foundation] is merely a straw man, to a straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."
Michael Christ
2021-09-19 22:51:47 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bob Duncan
Post by Michael Christ
Post by Bob Duncan
Once again, you contradict the Bible, thereby proving that you do not
know the Bible, nor it's Author.
Romans 6
What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound?
What has your comments to do with the fact that you continue in sin, Bob
Duncan??

Your religion isn't big enough for God.

'With Him, all things are possible'.



Michael Christ
Post by Bob Duncan
You're not snipping me. You're snipping God and His Bible.
Romans 6 (continued)
"By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? Do you not know
that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into
his death?"
Post by Michael Christ
Yet, you do.
I wonder why Steve Nash doesn't prove that?
Steve Nash has never proved anything he has posted here.
Steve Nash is a liar.
--
Rom 5:8  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory".

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything".

"Sin is not what you do, it is what you are".

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God".

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination".

"Compromise will condemn you".

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus".

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all".

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life".

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything".

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying 'prove it' [as a foundation] is merely a straw man, to a straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."
Michelle Malkin
2021-09-20 14:41:02 UTC
Permalink
Post by Michael Christ
Post by Bob Duncan
Post by Michael Christ
Post by Bob Duncan
Once again, you contradict the Bible, thereby proving that you do not
know the Bible, nor it's Author.
Romans 6
What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound?
What has your comments to do with the fact that you continue in sin, Bob
Duncan??
Your religion isn't big enough for God.
'With Him, all things are possible'.
Like Covid?
Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ
Post by Bob Duncan
You're not snipping me. You're snipping God and His Bible.
Romans 6 (continued)
"By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? Do you not know
that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into
his death?"
Post by Michael Christ
Yet, you do.
I wonder why Steve Nash doesn't prove that?
Steve Nash has never proved anything he has posted here.
Steve Nash is a liar.
Bob Duncan
2021-09-19 10:30:28 UTC
Permalink
Steve Nash contradicts the Bible in so many places, especially in Romans
6 & 7. Steve Nash is unable to comprehend the Word of God contained in
Romans 6 & 7. He would be able to understand Romans 6 & 7 if he had been
regenerated by the Holy Spirit. That is something that occurs within
everyone who is chosen by God, and is one of the elect.

========

Romans 6
What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound?
By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? Do you not know
that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into
his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in
order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the
Father, we too might walk in newness of life. For if we have been united
with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be united with him in a
resurrection like his. We know that our old self was crucified with him in
order that the body of sin might be brought to nothing, so that we would
no longer be enslaved to sin. For one who has died has been set free from
sin. Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we will also live
with him. We know that Christ, being raised from the dead, will never die
again; death no longer has dominion over him. For the death he died he
died to sin, once for all, but the life he lives he lives to God. So you
also must consider yourselves dead to sin and alive to God in Christ
Jesus. Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, to make you obey
its passions. Do not present your members to sin as instruments for
unrighteousness, but present yourselves to God as those who have been
brought from death to life, and your members to God as instruments for
righteousness. For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not
under law but under grace. What then? Are we to sin because we are not
under law but under grace? By no means! Do you not know that if you
present yourselves to anyone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one
whom you obey, either of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which
leads to righteousness? But thanks be to God, that you who were once
slaves of sin have become obedient from the heart to the standard of
teaching to which you were committed, and, having been set free from sin,
have become slaves of righteousness. I am speaking in human terms, because
of your natural limitations. For just as you once presented your members
as slaves to impurity and to lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so
now present your members as slaves to righteousness leading to
sanctification. For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard
to righteousness. But what fruit were you getting at that time from the
things of which you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death.
But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of
God, the fruit you get leads to sanctification and its end, eternal life.
For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in
Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 7
Or do you not know, brothers--for I am speaking to those who know the
law--that the law is binding on a person only as long as he lives? For a
married woman is bound by law to her husband while he lives, but if her
husband dies she is released from the law of marriage. Accordingly, she
will be called an adulteress if she lives with another man while her
husband is alive. But if her husband dies, she is free from that law, and
if she marries another man she is not an adulteress. Likewise, my
brothers, you also have died to the law through the body of Christ, so
that you may belong to another, to him who has been raised from the dead,
in order that we may bear fruit for God. For while we were living in the
flesh, our sinful passions, aroused by the law, were at work in our
members to bear fruit for death. But now we are released from the law,
having died to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way
of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code. What then shall
we say? That the law is sin? By no means! Yet if it had not been for the
law, I would not have known sin. For I would not have known what it is to
covet if the law had not said, "You shall not covet." But sin, seizing an
opportunity through the commandment, produced in me all kinds of
covetousness. For apart from the law, sin lies dead. I was once alive
apart from the law, but when the commandment came, sin came alive and I
died. The very commandment that promised life proved to be death to me.
For sin, seizing an opportunity through the commandment, deceived me and
through it killed me. So the law is holy, and the commandment is holy and
righteous and good. Did that which is good, then, bring death to me? By no
means! It was sin, producing death in me through what is good, in order
that sin might be shown to be sin, and through the commandment might
become sinful beyond measure. For we know that the law is spiritual, but I
am of the flesh, sold under sin. For I do not understand my own actions.
For I do not do what I want, but I do the very thing I hate. Now if I do
what I do not want, I agree with the law, that it is good. So now it is no
longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me. For I know that nothing
good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh. For I have the desire to do what
is right, but not the ability to carry it out. For I do not do the good I
want, but the evil I do not want is what I keep on doing. Now if I do what
I do not want, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me.
So I find it to be a law that when I want to do right, evil lies close at
hand. For I delight in the law of God, in my inner being, but I see in my
members another law waging war against the law of my mind and making me
captive to the law of sin that dwells in my members. Wretched man that I
am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? Thanks be to God through
Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself serve the law of God with my
mind, but with my flesh I serve the law of sin.
--
God exists, uncreated and transcendental to space and time.
.
Michael Christ
2021-09-19 07:19:48 UTC
Permalink
Is he not a sinner??

That is what sinners do, sin.

But not these Duncan sinners, these sinners are non-sinners in their
eyes and smirk at other people who are not like them.




Michael Christ
Post by Bob Duncan
Once again, you contradict the Bible, thereby proving that you do not
know the Bible, nor it's Author.
Romans 6
What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound?
By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? Do you not
know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were
baptized into his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism
into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by
the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life. For if we
have been united with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be
united with him in a resurrection like his. We know that our old self
was crucified with him in order that the body of sin might be brought to
nothing, so that we would no longer be enslaved to sin. For one who has
died has been set free from sin. Now if we have died with Christ, we
believe that we will also live with him. We know that Christ, being
raised from the dead, will never die again; death no longer has dominion
over him. For the death he died he died to sin, once for all, but the
life he lives he lives to God. So you also must consider yourselves dead
to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus. Let not sin therefore reign in
your mortal body, to make you obey its passions. Do not present your
members to sin as instruments for unrighteousness, but present
yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life, and
your members to God as instruments for righteousness. For sin will have
no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace. What
then? Are we to sin because we are not under law but under grace? By no
means! Do you not know that if you present yourselves to anyone as
obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin,
which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness? But
thanks be to God, that *you who were once slaves of sin have become*
*obedient from the heart to the standard of teaching to which you were*
*committed, and, having been set free from sin, have become slaves of
righteousness.* I am speaking in human terms, because of your natural
limitations. For just as you once presented your members as slaves to
impurity and to lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so now present
your members as slaves to righteousness leading to sanctification. For
when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness.
But what fruit were you getting at that time from the things of which
you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death. But now that
you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the fruit
you get leads to sanctification and its end, eternal life. For the wages
of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ
Jesus our Lord.
--
Rom 5:8  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory".

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything".

"Sin is not what you do, it is what you are".

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God".

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination".

"Compromise will condemn you".

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus".

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all".

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life".

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything".

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying 'prove it' [as a foundation] is merely a straw man, to a straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."
Bob Duncan
2021-09-19 10:33:07 UTC
Permalink
Post by Michael Christ
Is he not a sinner?
That is what sinners do, sin.
But not these Duncan sinners, these sinners are non-sinners in their
eyes and smirk at other people who are not like them.
Steve Nash contradicts the Bible in so many places, especially in Romans
6 & 7. Steve Nash is unable to comprehend the Word of God contained in
Romans 6 & 7. He would be able to understand Romans 6 & 7 if he had been
regenerated by the Holy Spirit. That is something that occurs within
everyone who is chosen by God, and is one of the elect.

========

Romans 6
What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound?
By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? Do you not know
that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into
his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in
order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the
Father, we too might walk in newness of life. For if we have been united
with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be united with him in a
resurrection like his. We know that our old self was crucified with him in
order that the body of sin might be brought to nothing, so that we would
no longer be enslaved to sin. For one who has died has been set free from
sin. Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we will also live
with him. We know that Christ, being raised from the dead, will never die
again; death no longer has dominion over him. For the death he died he
died to sin, once for all, but the life he lives he lives to God. So you
also must consider yourselves dead to sin and alive to God in Christ
Jesus. Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, to make you obey
its passions. Do not present your members to sin as instruments for
unrighteousness, but present yourselves to God as those who have been
brought from death to life, and your members to God as instruments for
righteousness. For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not
under law but under grace. What then? Are we to sin because we are not
under law but under grace? By no means! Do you not know that if you
present yourselves to anyone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one
whom you obey, either of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which
leads to righteousness? But thanks be to God, that you who were once
slaves of sin have become obedient from the heart to the standard of
teaching to which you were committed, and, having been set free from sin,
have become slaves of righteousness. I am speaking in human terms, because
of your natural limitations. For just as you once presented your members
as slaves to impurity and to lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so
now present your members as slaves to righteousness leading to
sanctification. For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard
to righteousness. But what fruit were you getting at that time from the
things of which you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death.
But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of
God, the fruit you get leads to sanctification and its end, eternal life.
For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in
Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 7
Or do you not know, brothers--for I am speaking to those who know the
law--that the law is binding on a person only as long as he lives? For a
married woman is bound by law to her husband while he lives, but if her
husband dies she is released from the law of marriage. Accordingly, she
will be called an adulteress if she lives with another man while her
husband is alive. But if her husband dies, she is free from that law, and
if she marries another man she is not an adulteress. Likewise, my
brothers, you also have died to the law through the body of Christ, so
that you may belong to another, to him who has been raised from the dead,
in order that we may bear fruit for God. For while we were living in the
flesh, our sinful passions, aroused by the law, were at work in our
members to bear fruit for death. But now we are released from the law,
having died to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way
of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code. What then shall
we say? That the law is sin? By no means! Yet if it had not been for the
law, I would not have known sin. For I would not have known what it is to
covet if the law had not said, "You shall not covet." But sin, seizing an
opportunity through the commandment, produced in me all kinds of
covetousness. For apart from the law, sin lies dead. I was once alive
apart from the law, but when the commandment came, sin came alive and I
died. The very commandment that promised life proved to be death to me.
For sin, seizing an opportunity through the commandment, deceived me and
through it killed me. So the law is holy, and the commandment is holy and
righteous and good. Did that which is good, then, bring death to me? By no
means! It was sin, producing death in me through what is good, in order
that sin might be shown to be sin, and through the commandment might
become sinful beyond measure. For we know that the law is spiritual, but I
am of the flesh, sold under sin. For I do not understand my own actions.
For I do not do what I want, but I do the very thing I hate. Now if I do
what I do not want, I agree with the law, that it is good. So now it is no
longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me. For I know that nothing
good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh. For I have the desire to do what
is right, but not the ability to carry it out. For I do not do the good I
want, but the evil I do not want is what I keep on doing. Now if I do what
I do not want, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me.
So I find it to be a law that when I want to do right, evil lies close at
hand. For I delight in the law of God, in my inner being, but I see in my
members another law waging war against the law of my mind and making me
captive to the law of sin that dwells in my members. Wretched man that I
am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? Thanks be to God through
Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself serve the law of God with my
mind, but with my flesh I serve the law of sin.
--
God exists, uncreated and transcendental to space and time.
.
Bob Duncan
2021-09-19 10:41:13 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bob Duncan
Post by Michael Christ
Is he not a sinner?
That is what sinners do, sin.
But not these Duncan sinners, these sinners are non-sinners in their
eyes and smirk at other people who are not like them.
I wonder why Steve Nash doesn't prove he's not a liar?

Steve Nash has never proved anything he has posted here.

Steve Nash is a liar.
Post by Bob Duncan
Steve Nash contradicts the Bible in so many places, especially in Romans
6 & 7. Steve Nash is unable to comprehend the Word of God contained in
Romans 6 & 7. He would be able to understand Romans 6 & 7 if he had been
regenerated by the Holy Spirit. That is something that occurs within
everyone who is chosen by God, and is one of the elect.
========
Romans 6
What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound?
By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? Do you not know
that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into
his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in
order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the
Father, we too might walk in newness of life. For if we have been united
with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be united with him in a
resurrection like his. We know that our old self was crucified with him in
order that the body of sin might be brought to nothing, so that we would
no longer be enslaved to sin. For one who has died has been set free from
sin. Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we will also live
with him. We know that Christ, being raised from the dead, will never die
again; death no longer has dominion over him. For the death he died he
died to sin, once for all, but the life he lives he lives to God. So you
also must consider yourselves dead to sin and alive to God in Christ
Jesus. Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, to make you obey
its passions. Do not present your members to sin as instruments for
unrighteousness, but present yourselves to God as those who have been
brought from death to life, and your members to God as instruments for
righteousness. For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not
under law but under grace. What then? Are we to sin because we are not
under law but under grace? By no means! Do you not know that if you
present yourselves to anyone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one
whom you obey, either of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which
leads to righteousness? But thanks be to God, that you who were once
slaves of sin have become obedient from the heart to the standard of
teaching to which you were committed, and, having been set free from sin,
have become slaves of righteousness. I am speaking in human terms, because
of your natural limitations. For just as you once presented your members
as slaves to impurity and to lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so
now present your members as slaves to righteousness leading to
sanctification. For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard
to righteousness. But what fruit were you getting at that time from the
things of which you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death.
But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of
God, the fruit you get leads to sanctification and its end, eternal life.
For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in
Christ Jesus our Lord.
Romans 7
Or do you not know, brothers--for I am speaking to those who know the
law--that the law is binding on a person only as long as he lives? For a
married woman is bound by law to her husband while he lives, but if her
husband dies she is released from the law of marriage. Accordingly, she
will be called an adulteress if she lives with another man while her
husband is alive. But if her husband dies, she is free from that law, and
if she marries another man she is not an adulteress. Likewise, my
brothers, you also have died to the law through the body of Christ, so
that you may belong to another, to him who has been raised from the dead,
in order that we may bear fruit for God. For while we were living in the
flesh, our sinful passions, aroused by the law, were at work in our
members to bear fruit for death. But now we are released from the law,
having died to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way
of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code. What then shall
we say? That the law is sin? By no means! Yet if it had not been for the
law, I would not have known sin. For I would not have known what it is to
covet if the law had not said, "You shall not covet." But sin, seizing an
opportunity through the commandment, produced in me all kinds of
covetousness. For apart from the law, sin lies dead. I was once alive
apart from the law, but when the commandment came, sin came alive and I
died. The very commandment that promised life proved to be death to me.
For sin, seizing an opportunity through the commandment, deceived me and
through it killed me. So the law is holy, and the commandment is holy and
righteous and good. Did that which is good, then, bring death to me? By no
means! It was sin, producing death in me through what is good, in order
that sin might be shown to be sin, and through the commandment might
become sinful beyond measure. For we know that the law is spiritual, but I
am of the flesh, sold under sin. For I do not understand my own actions.
For I do not do what I want, but I do the very thing I hate. Now if I do
what I do not want, I agree with the law, that it is good. So now it is no
longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me. For I know that nothing
good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh. For I have the desire to do what
is right, but not the ability to carry it out. For I do not do the good I
want, but the evil I do not want is what I keep on doing. Now if I do what
I do not want, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me.
So I find it to be a law that when I want to do right, evil lies close at
hand. For I delight in the law of God, in my inner being, but I see in my
members another law waging war against the law of my mind and making me
captive to the law of sin that dwells in my members. Wretched man that I
am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? Thanks be to God through
Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself serve the law of God with my
mind, but with my flesh I serve the law of sin.
--
God exists, uncreated and transcendental to space and time.
.
Bob Duncan
2021-09-19 23:44:02 UTC
Permalink
Steve Nash contradicts the Bible in so many places, especially in Romans
6 & 7. Steve Nash is unable to comprehend the Word of God contained in
Romans 6 & 7. He would be able to understand Romans 6 & 7 if he had been
regenerated by the Holy Spirit. But that is something that occurs only
within those who have been chosen by God, and who are one of the elect.

As can be seen in his fatuous verbosity on display here daily, that could
not possibly include Steve Nash.

"The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the
Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them
because they are discerned only through the Spirit."
[1 Corinthians 2:14]

==================

Romans 6
What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound?
By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? Do you not know
that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into
his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in
order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the
Father, we too might walk in newness of life. For if we have been united
with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be united with him in a
resurrection like his. We know that our old self was crucified with him in
order that the body of sin might be brought to nothing, so that we would
no longer be enslaved to sin. For one who has died has been set free from
sin. Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we will also live
with him. We know that Christ, being raised from the dead, will never die
again; death no longer has dominion over him. For the death he died he
died to sin, once for all, but the life he lives he lives to God. So you
also must consider yourselves dead to sin and alive to God in Christ
Jesus. Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, to make you obey
its passions. Do not present your members to sin as instruments for
unrighteousness, but present yourselves to God as those who have been
brought from death to life, and your members to God as instruments for
righteousness. For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not
under law but under grace. What then? Are we to sin because we are not
under law but under grace? By no means! Do you not know that if you
present yourselves to anyone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one
whom you obey, either of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which
leads to righteousness? But thanks be to God, that you who were once
slaves of sin have become obedient from the heart to the standard of
teaching to which you were committed, and, having been set free from sin,
have become slaves of righteousness. I am speaking in human terms, because
of your natural limitations. For just as you once presented your members
as slaves to impurity and to lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so
now present your members as slaves to righteousness leading to
sanctification. For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard
to righteousness. But what fruit were you getting at that time from the
things of which you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death.
But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of
God, the fruit you get leads to sanctification and its end, eternal life.
For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in
Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 7
Or do you not know, brothers--for I am speaking to those who know the
law--that the law is binding on a person only as long as he lives? For a
married woman is bound by law to her husband while he lives, but if her
husband dies she is released from the law of marriage. Accordingly, she
will be called an adulteress if she lives with another man while her
husband is alive. But if her husband dies, she is free from that law, and
if she marries another man she is not an adulteress. Likewise, my
brothers, you also have died to the law through the body of Christ, so
that you may belong to another, to him who has been raised from the dead,
in order that we may bear fruit for God. For while we were living in the
flesh, our sinful passions, aroused by the law, were at work in our
members to bear fruit for death. But now we are released from the law,
having died to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way
of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code. What then shall
we say? That the law is sin? By no means! Yet if it had not been for the
law, I would not have known sin. For I would not have known what it is to
covet if the law had not said, "You shall not covet." But sin, seizing an
opportunity through the commandment, produced in me all kinds of
covetousness. For apart from the law, sin lies dead. I was once alive
apart from the law, but when the commandment came, sin came alive and I
died. The very commandment that promised life proved to be death to me.
For sin, seizing an opportunity through the commandment, deceived me and
through it killed me. So the law is holy, and the commandment is holy and
righteous and good. Did that which is good, then, bring death to me? By no
means! It was sin, producing death in me through what is good, in order
that sin might be shown to be sin, and through the commandment might
become sinful beyond measure. For we know that the law is spiritual, but I
am of the flesh, sold under sin. For I do not understand my own actions.
For I do not do what I want, but I do the very thing I hate. Now if I do
what I do not want, I agree with the law, that it is good. So now it is no
longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me. For I know that nothing
good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh. For I have the desire to do what
is right, but not the ability to carry it out. For I do not do the good I
want, but the evil I do not want is what I keep on doing. Now if I do what
I do not want, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me.
So I find it to be a law that when I want to do right, evil lies close at
hand. For I delight in the law of God, in my inner being, but I see in my
members another law waging war against the law of my mind and making me
captive to the law of sin that dwells in my members. Wretched man that I
am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? Thanks be to God through
Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself serve the law of God with my
mind, but with my flesh I serve the law of sin.
--
God exists, uncreated and transcendental to space and time.
.
Bob Duncan
2021-09-20 11:32:46 UTC
Permalink
Steve Nash (a.k.a. "Michael Christ") contradicts the Bible in so many
places, especially in Romans 6 & 7. Steve Nash (a.k.a. "Michael Christ")
is unable to comprehend the Word of God that is contained in Romans
6 & 7. Steve Nash (a.k.a. "Michael Christ") would be able to understand
Romans 6 & 7 if he were regenerated by the Holy Spirit. But that is
something that occurs only within those who have been chosen by God,
and who are of the "elect".

And, as can clearly be seen in his fatuous verbosity on display here
every day, that could not possibly include Steve Nash (a.k.a. "Michael
Christ").

He cannot even name one other person besides himself who holds the
same beliefs as he holds. I'm thankful that he is the only member of his
Satanic cult.

"The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from
the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand
them because they are discerned only through the Spirit."
[1 Corinthians 2:14]

==================

Romans 6
What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound?
By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? Do you not know
that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into
his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in
order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the
Father, we too might walk in newness of life. For if we have been united
with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be united with him in a
resurrection like his. We know that our old self was crucified with him in
order that the body of sin might be brought to nothing, so that we would
no longer be enslaved to sin. For one who has died has been set free from
sin. Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we will also live
with him. We know that Christ, being raised from the dead, will never die
again; death no longer has dominion over him. For the death he died he
died to sin, once for all, but the life he lives he lives to God. So you
also must consider yourselves dead to sin and alive to God in Christ
Jesus. Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, to make you obey
its passions. Do not present your members to sin as instruments for
unrighteousness, but present yourselves to God as those who have been
brought from death to life, and your members to God as instruments for
righteousness. For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not
under law but under grace. What then? Are we to sin because we are not
under law but under grace? By no means! Do you not know that if you
present yourselves to anyone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one
whom you obey, either of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which
leads to righteousness? But thanks be to God, that you who were once
slaves of sin have become obedient from the heart to the standard of
teaching to which you were committed, and, having been set free from sin,
have become slaves of righteousness. I am speaking in human terms, because
of your natural limitations. For just as you once presented your members
as slaves to impurity and to lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so
now present your members as slaves to righteousness leading to
sanctification. For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard
to righteousness. But what fruit were you getting at that time from the
things of which you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death.
But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of
God, the fruit you get leads to sanctification and its end, eternal life.
For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in
Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 7
Or do you not know, brothers--for I am speaking to those who know the
law--that the law is binding on a person only as long as he lives? For a
married woman is bound by law to her husband while he lives, but if her
husband dies she is released from the law of marriage. Accordingly, she
will be called an adulteress if she lives with another man while her
husband is alive. But if her husband dies, she is free from that law, and
if she marries another man she is not an adulteress. Likewise, my
brothers, you also have died to the law through the body of Christ, so
that you may belong to another, to him who has been raised from the dead,
in order that we may bear fruit for God. For while we were living in the
flesh, our sinful passions, aroused by the law, were at work in our
members to bear fruit for death. But now we are released from the law,
having died to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way
of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code. What then shall
we say? That the law is sin? By no means! Yet if it had not been for the
law, I would not have known sin. For I would not have known what it is to
covet if the law had not said, "You shall not covet." But sin, seizing an
opportunity through the commandment, produced in me all kinds of
covetousness. For apart from the law, sin lies dead. I was once alive
apart from the law, but when the commandment came, sin came alive and I
died. The very commandment that promised life proved to be death to me.
For sin, seizing an opportunity through the commandment, deceived me and
through it killed me. So the law is holy, and the commandment is holy and
righteous and good. Did that which is good, then, bring death to me? By no
means! It was sin, producing death in me through what is good, in order
that sin might be shown to be sin, and through the commandment might
become sinful beyond measure. For we know that the law is spiritual, but I
am of the flesh, sold under sin. For I do not understand my own actions.
For I do not do what I want, but I do the very thing I hate. Now if I do
what I do not want, I agree with the law, that it is good. So now it is no
longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me. For I know that nothing
good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh. For I have the desire to do what
is right, but not the ability to carry it out. For I do not do the good I
want, but the evil I do not want is what I keep on doing. Now if I do what
I do not want, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me.
So I find it to be a law that when I want to do right, evil lies close at
hand. For I delight in the law of God, in my inner being, but I see in my
members another law waging war against the law of my mind and making me
captive to the law of sin that dwells in my members. Wretched man that I
am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? Thanks be to God through
Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself serve the law of God with my
mind, but with my flesh I serve the law of sin.
--
God exists, uncreated and transcendental to space and time.
.
Michael Christ
2021-09-20 22:27:38 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bob Duncan
Steve Nash (a.k.a. "Michael Christ") contradicts the Bible in so many
places, especially in Romans 6 & 7. Steve Nash (a.k.a. "Michael Christ")
is unable to comprehend the Word of God that is contained in Romans
6 & 7. Steve Nash (a.k.a. "Michael Christ") would be able to understand
Romans 6 & 7 if he were regenerated by the Holy Spirit. But that is
something that occurs only within those who have been chosen by God,
and who are of the "elect".
And, as can clearly be seen in his fatuous verbosity on display here
every day, that could not possibly include Steve Nash (a.k.a. "Michael
Christ").
He cannot even name one other person besides himself who holds the
same beliefs as he holds. I'm thankful that he is the only member of his
Satanic cult.
"The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from
the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand
them because they are discerned only through the Spirit."
[1 Corinthians 2:14]
==================
Romans 6
What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound?
By no means!
But yet you do.

Enough said.

So much for your 'popular sinner religion', Dunks.





Michael Christ




How can we who died to sin still live in it? Do you not know
Post by Bob Duncan
that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into
his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in
order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the
Father, we too might walk in newness of life. For if we have been united
with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be united with him in a
resurrection like his. We know that our old self was crucified with him in
order that the body of sin might be brought to nothing, so that we would
no longer be enslaved to sin. For one who has died has been set free from
sin. Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we will also live
with him. We know that Christ, being raised from the dead, will never die
again; death no longer has dominion over him. For the death he died he
died to sin, once for all, but the life he lives he lives to God. So you
also must consider yourselves dead to sin and alive to God in Christ
Jesus. Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, to make you obey
its passions. Do not present your members to sin as instruments for
unrighteousness, but present yourselves to God as those who have been
brought from death to life, and your members to God as instruments for
righteousness. For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not
under law but under grace. What then? Are we to sin because we are not
under law but under grace? By no means! Do you not know that if you
present yourselves to anyone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one
whom you obey, either of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which
leads to righteousness? But thanks be to God, that you who were once
slaves of sin have become obedient from the heart to the standard of
teaching to which you were committed, and, having been set free from sin,
have become slaves of righteousness. I am speaking in human terms, because
of your natural limitations. For just as you once presented your members
as slaves to impurity and to lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so
now present your members as slaves to righteousness leading to
sanctification. For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard
to righteousness. But what fruit were you getting at that time from the
things of which you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death.
But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of
God, the fruit you get leads to sanctification and its end, eternal life.
For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in
Christ Jesus our Lord.
Romans 7
Or do you not know, brothers--for I am speaking to those who know the
law--that the law is binding on a person only as long as he lives? For a
married woman is bound by law to her husband while he lives, but if her
husband dies she is released from the law of marriage. Accordingly, she
will be called an adulteress if she lives with another man while her
husband is alive. But if her husband dies, she is free from that law, and
if she marries another man she is not an adulteress. Likewise, my
brothers, you also have died to the law through the body of Christ, so
that you may belong to another, to him who has been raised from the dead,
in order that we may bear fruit for God. For while we were living in the
flesh, our sinful passions, aroused by the law, were at work in our
members to bear fruit for death. But now we are released from the law,
having died to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way
of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code. What then shall
we say? That the law is sin? By no means! Yet if it had not been for the
law, I would not have known sin. For I would not have known what it is to
covet if the law had not said, "You shall not covet." But sin, seizing an
opportunity through the commandment, produced in me all kinds of
covetousness. For apart from the law, sin lies dead. I was once alive
apart from the law, but when the commandment came, sin came alive and I
died. The very commandment that promised life proved to be death to me.
For sin, seizing an opportunity through the commandment, deceived me and
through it killed me. So the law is holy, and the commandment is holy and
righteous and good. Did that which is good, then, bring death to me? By no
means! It was sin, producing death in me through what is good, in order
that sin might be shown to be sin, and through the commandment might
become sinful beyond measure. For we know that the law is spiritual, but I
am of the flesh, sold under sin. For I do not understand my own actions.
For I do not do what I want, but I do the very thing I hate. Now if I do
what I do not want, I agree with the law, that it is good. So now it is no
longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me. For I know that nothing
good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh. For I have the desire to do what
is right, but not the ability to carry it out. For I do not do the good I
want, but the evil I do not want is what I keep on doing. Now if I do what
I do not want, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me.
So I find it to be a law that when I want to do right, evil lies close at
hand. For I delight in the law of God, in my inner being, but I see in my
members another law waging war against the law of my mind and making me
captive to the law of sin that dwells in my members. Wretched man that I
am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? Thanks be to God through
Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself serve the law of God with my
mind, but with my flesh I serve the law of sin.
--
Rom 5:8  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory".

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything".

"Sin is not what you do, it is what you are".

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God".

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination".

"Compromise will condemn you".

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus".

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all".

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life".

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything".

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying 'prove it' [as a foundation] is merely a straw man, to a straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."
Bob Duncan
2021-09-21 00:21:18 UTC
Permalink
Post by Michael Christ
Post by Bob Duncan
Romans 6
What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound?
By no means!
But yet you do.
Steve Nash's (a.k.a. "Michael Christ") definition of the verb "sin" is not the
same as the one in Romans 6 & 7. As can be seen in what follows in verse 2.
His being an unregenerate reprobate prevents him from understanding the
full meaning of chapters 6 and 7 in Romans.

"The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from
the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand
them because they are discerned only through the Spirit."
[1 Corinthians 2:14]


Romans 6
What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound?
By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? Do you not know
that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into
his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in
order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the
Father, we too might walk in newness of life. For if we have been united
with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be united with him in a
resurrection like his. We know that our old self was crucified with him in
order that the body of sin might be brought to nothing, so that we would
no longer be enslaved to sin. For one who has died has been set free from
sin. Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we will also live
with him. We know that Christ, being raised from the dead, will never die
again; death no longer has dominion over him. For the death he died he
died to sin, once for all, but the life he lives he lives to God. So you
also must consider yourselves dead to sin and alive to God in Christ
Jesus. Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, to make you obey
its passions. Do not present your members to sin as instruments for
unrighteousness, but present yourselves to God as those who have been
brought from death to life, and your members to God as instruments for
righteousness. For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not
under law but under grace. What then? Are we to sin because we are not
under law but under grace? By no means! Do you not know that if you
present yourselves to anyone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one
whom you obey, either of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which
leads to righteousness? But thanks be to God, that you who were once
slaves of sin have become obedient from the heart to the standard of
teaching to which you were committed, and, having been set free from sin,
have become slaves of righteousness. I am speaking in human terms, because
of your natural limitations. For just as you once presented your members
as slaves to impurity and to lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so
now present your members as slaves to righteousness leading to
sanctification. For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard
to righteousness. But what fruit were you getting at that time from the
things of which you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death.
But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of
God, the fruit you get leads to sanctification and its end, eternal life.
For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in
Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 7
Or do you not know, brothers--for I am speaking to those who know the
law--that the law is binding on a person only as long as he lives? For a
married woman is bound by law to her husband while he lives, but if her
husband dies she is released from the law of marriage. Accordingly, she
will be called an adulteress if she lives with another man while her
husband is alive. But if her husband dies, she is free from that law, and
if she marries another man she is not an adulteress. Likewise, my
brothers, you also have died to the law through the body of Christ, so
that you may belong to another, to him who has been raised from the dead,
in order that we may bear fruit for God. For while we were living in the
flesh, our sinful passions, aroused by the law, were at work in our
members to bear fruit for death. But now we are released from the law,
having died to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way
of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code. What then shall
we say? That the law is sin? By no means! Yet if it had not been for the
law, I would not have known sin. For I would not have known what it is to
covet if the law had not said, "You shall not covet." But sin, seizing an
opportunity through the commandment, produced in me all kinds of
covetousness. For apart from the law, sin lies dead. I was once alive
apart from the law, but when the commandment came, sin came alive and I
died. The very commandment that promised life proved to be death to me.
For sin, seizing an opportunity through the commandment, deceived me and
through it killed me. So the law is holy, and the commandment is holy and
righteous and good. Did that which is good, then, bring death to me? By no
means! It was sin, producing death in me through what is good, in order
that sin might be shown to be sin, and through the commandment might
become sinful beyond measure. For we know that the law is spiritual, but I
am of the flesh, sold under sin. For I do not understand my own actions.
For I do not do what I want, but I do the very thing I hate. Now if I do
what I do not want, I agree with the law, that it is good. So now it is no
longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me. For I know that nothing
good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh. For I have the desire to do what
is right, but not the ability to carry it out. For I do not do the good I
want, but the evil I do not want is what I keep on doing. Now if I do what
I do not want, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me.
So I find it to be a law that when I want to do right, evil lies close at
hand. For I delight in the law of God, in my inner being, but I see in my
members another law waging war against the law of my mind and making me
captive to the law of sin that dwells in my members. Wretched man that I
am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? Thanks be to God through
Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself serve the law of God with my
mind, but with my flesh I serve the law of sin.

=========================================================

Steve Nash (a.k.a. "Michael Christ") contradicts the Bible in so many
places, especially in Romans 6 & 7. Steve Nash (a.k.a. "Michael Christ")
is unable to comprehend the Word of God that is contained in Romans
6 & 7. Steve Nash (a.k.a. "Michael Christ") would be able to understand
Romans 6 & 7 if he were regenerated by the Holy Spirit. But that is
something that occurs only within those who have been chosen by God,
and who are of the "elect".

And, as can clearly be seen in his fatuous verbosity on display here
every day, that could not possibly include Steve Nash (a.k.a. "Michael
Christ").

He cannot name even one other person besides himself who holds the
same beliefs as he holds. I'm thankful that he is the only member of his
Satanic cult.

"The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from
the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand
them because they are discerned only through the Spirit."
[1 Corinthians 2:14]
--
God exists, uncreated and transcendental to space and time.
.
Bob Duncan
2021-09-21 00:29:07 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bob Duncan
Romans 6
What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound?
By no means!
But yet you do.
Steve Nash's (a.k.a. "Michael Christ") definition of the verb "sin" is
not the
same as the one in Romans 6 & 7. As can be seen in what follows in verse 2.
His being an unregenerate reprobate prevents him from understanding the
full meaning of chapters 6 and 7 in Romans.

"The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from
the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand
them because they are discerned only through the Spirit."
[1 Corinthians 2:14]


Romans 6
What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound?
By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? Do you not know
that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into
his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in
order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the
Father, we too might walk in newness of life. For if we have been united
with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be united with him in a
resurrection like his. We know that our old self was crucified with him in
order that the body of sin might be brought to nothing, so that we would
no longer be enslaved to sin. For one who has died has been set free from
sin. Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we will also live
with him. We know that Christ, being raised from the dead, will never die
again; death no longer has dominion over him. For the death he died he
died to sin, once for all, but the life he lives he lives to God. So you
also must consider yourselves dead to sin and alive to God in Christ
Jesus. Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, to make you obey
its passions. Do not present your members to sin as instruments for
unrighteousness, but present yourselves to God as those who have been
brought from death to life, and your members to God as instruments for
righteousness. For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not
under law but under grace. What then? Are we to sin because we are not
under law but under grace? By no means! Do you not know that if you
present yourselves to anyone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one
whom you obey, either of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which
leads to righteousness? But thanks be to God, that you who were once
slaves of sin have become obedient from the heart to the standard of
teaching to which you were committed, and, having been set free from sin,
have become slaves of righteousness. I am speaking in human terms, because
of your natural limitations. For just as you once presented your members
as slaves to impurity and to lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so
now present your members as slaves to righteousness leading to
sanctification. For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard
to righteousness. But what fruit were you getting at that time from the
things of which you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death.
But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of
God, the fruit you get leads to sanctification and its end, eternal life.
For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in
Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 7
Or do you not know, brothers--for I am speaking to those who know the
law--that the law is binding on a person only as long as he lives? For a
married woman is bound by law to her husband while he lives, but if her
husband dies she is released from the law of marriage. Accordingly, she
will be called an adulteress if she lives with another man while her
husband is alive. But if her husband dies, she is free from that law, and
if she marries another man she is not an adulteress. Likewise, my
brothers, you also have died to the law through the body of Christ, so
that you may belong to another, to him who has been raised from the dead,
in order that we may bear fruit for God. For while we were living in the
flesh, our sinful passions, aroused by the law, were at work in our
members to bear fruit for death. But now we are released from the law,
having died to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way
of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code. What then shall
we say? That the law is sin? By no means! Yet if it had not been for the
law, I would not have known sin. For I would not have known what it is to
covet if the law had not said, "You shall not covet." But sin, seizing an
opportunity through the commandment, produced in me all kinds of
covetousness. For apart from the law, sin lies dead. I was once alive
apart from the law, but when the commandment came, sin came alive and I
died. The very commandment that promised life proved to be death to me.
For sin, seizing an opportunity through the commandment, deceived me and
through it killed me. So the law is holy, and the commandment is holy and
righteous and good. Did that which is good, then, bring death to me? By no
means! It was sin, producing death in me through what is good, in order
that sin might be shown to be sin, and through the commandment might
become sinful beyond measure. For we know that the law is spiritual, but I
am of the flesh, sold under sin. For I do not understand my own actions.
For I do not do what I want, but I do the very thing I hate. Now if I do
what I do not want, I agree with the law, that it is good. So now it is no
longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me. For I know that nothing
good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh. For I have the desire to do what
is right, but not the ability to carry it out. For I do not do the good I
want, but the evil I do not want is what I keep on doing. Now if I do what
I do not want, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me.
So I find it to be a law that when I want to do right, evil lies close at
hand. For I delight in the law of God, in my inner being, but I see in my
members another law waging war against the law of my mind and making me
captive to the law of sin that dwells in my members. Wretched man that I
am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? Thanks be to God through
Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself serve the law of God with my
mind, but with my flesh I serve the law of sin.

=========================================================

Steve Nash (a.k.a. "Michael Christ") contradicts the Bible in so many
places, especially in Romans 6 & 7. Steve Nash (a.k.a. "Michael Christ")
is unable to comprehend the Word of God that is contained in Romans
6 & 7. Steve Nash (a.k.a. "Michael Christ") would be able to understand
Romans 6 & 7 if he were regenerated by the Holy Spirit. But that is
something that occurs only within those who have been chosen by God,
and who are of the "elect".

And, as can clearly be seen in his fatuous verbosity on display here
every day, that could not possibly include Steve Nash (a.k.a. "Michael
Christ").

He cannot name even one other person besides himself who holds the
same beliefs as he holds. I'm thankful that he is the only member of his
Satanic cult.

"The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from
the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand
them because they are discerned only through the Spirit."
[1 Corinthians 2:14]
--
God exists, uncreated and transcendental to space and time.
.
Michael Christ
2021-09-21 00:59:21 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bob Duncan
Post by Bob Duncan
Romans 6
What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound?
By no means!
But yet you do!

Houston, there is a problem, and trying to crucify me ain't going to
solve it, Unbeliever Bob.





Michael Christ
Post by Bob Duncan
Steve Nash's (a.k.a. "Michael Christ") definition of the verb "sin" is not the
same as the one in Romans 6 & 7. As can be seen in what follows in verse 2.
His being an unregenerate reprobate prevents him from understanding the
full meaning of chapters 6 and 7 in Romans.
"The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from
the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand
them because they are discerned only through the Spirit."
[1 Corinthians 2:14]
Romans 6
What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound?
By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? Do you not know
that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into
his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in
order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the
Father, we too might walk in newness of life. For if we have been united
with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be united with him in a
resurrection like his. We know that our old self was crucified with him in
order that the body of sin might be brought to nothing, so that we would
no longer be enslaved to sin. For one who has died has been set free from
sin. Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we will also live
with him. We know that Christ, being raised from the dead, will never die
again; death no longer has dominion over him. For the death he died he
died to sin, once for all, but the life he lives he lives to God. So you
also must consider yourselves dead to sin and alive to God in Christ
Jesus. Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, to make you obey
its passions. Do not present your members to sin as instruments for
unrighteousness, but present yourselves to God as those who have been
brought from death to life, and your members to God as instruments for
righteousness. For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not
under law but under grace. What then? Are we to sin because we are not
under law but under grace? By no means! Do you not know that if you
present yourselves to anyone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one
whom you obey, either of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which
leads to righteousness? But thanks be to God, that you who were once
slaves of sin have become obedient from the heart to the standard of
teaching to which you were committed, and, having been set free from sin,
have become slaves of righteousness. I am speaking in human terms, because
of your natural limitations. For just as you once presented your members
as slaves to impurity and to lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so
now present your members as slaves to righteousness leading to
sanctification. For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard
to righteousness. But what fruit were you getting at that time from the
things of which you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death.
But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of
God, the fruit you get leads to sanctification and its end, eternal life.
For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in
Christ Jesus our Lord.
Romans 7
Or do you not know, brothers--for I am speaking to those who know the
law--that the law is binding on a person only as long as he lives? For a
married woman is bound by law to her husband while he lives, but if her
husband dies she is released from the law of marriage. Accordingly, she
will be called an adulteress if she lives with another man while her
husband is alive. But if her husband dies, she is free from that law, and
if she marries another man she is not an adulteress. Likewise, my
brothers, you also have died to the law through the body of Christ, so
that you may belong to another, to him who has been raised from the dead,
in order that we may bear fruit for God. For while we were living in the
flesh, our sinful passions, aroused by the law, were at work in our
members to bear fruit for death. But now we are released from the law,
having died to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way
of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code. What then shall
we say? That the law is sin? By no means! Yet if it had not been for the
law, I would not have known sin. For I would not have known what it is to
covet if the law had not said, "You shall not covet." But sin, seizing an
opportunity through the commandment, produced in me all kinds of
covetousness. For apart from the law, sin lies dead. I was once alive
apart from the law, but when the commandment came, sin came alive and I
died. The very commandment that promised life proved to be death to me.
For sin, seizing an opportunity through the commandment, deceived me and
through it killed me. So the law is holy, and the commandment is holy and
righteous and good. Did that which is good, then, bring death to me? By no
means! It was sin, producing death in me through what is good, in order
that sin might be shown to be sin, and through the commandment might
become sinful beyond measure. For we know that the law is spiritual, but I
am of the flesh, sold under sin. For I do not understand my own actions.
For I do not do what I want, but I do the very thing I hate. Now if I do
what I do not want, I agree with the law, that it is good. So now it is no
longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me. For I know that nothing
good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh. For I have the desire to do what
is right, but not the ability to carry it out. For I do not do the good I
want, but the evil I do not want is what I keep on doing. Now if I do what
I do not want, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me.
So I find it to be a law that when I want to do right, evil lies close at
hand. For I delight in the law of God, in my inner being, but I see in my
members another law waging war against the law of my mind and making me
captive to the law of sin that dwells in my members. Wretched man that I
am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? Thanks be to God through
Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself serve the law of God with my
mind, but with my flesh I serve the law of sin.
=========================================================
Steve Nash (a.k.a. "Michael Christ") contradicts the Bible in so many
places, especially in Romans 6 & 7. Steve Nash (a.k.a. "Michael Christ")
is unable to comprehend the Word of God that is contained in Romans
6 & 7. Steve Nash (a.k.a. "Michael Christ") would be able to understand
Romans 6 & 7 if he were regenerated by the Holy Spirit. But that is
something that occurs only within those who have been chosen by God,
and who are of the "elect".
And, as can clearly be seen in his fatuous verbosity on display here
every day, that could not possibly include Steve Nash (a.k.a. "Michael
Christ").
He cannot name even one other person besides himself who holds the
same beliefs as he holds. I'm thankful that he is the only member of his
Satanic cult.
"The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from
the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand
them because they are discerned only through the Spirit."
[1 Corinthians 2:14]
--
Rom 5:8  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory".

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything".

"Sin is not what you do, it is what you are".

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God".

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination".

"Compromise will condemn you".

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus".

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all".

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life".

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything".

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying 'prove it' [as a foundation] is merely a straw man, to a straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."
Bob Duncan
2021-09-21 01:05:25 UTC
Permalink
Steve Nash (a.k.a. "Michael Christ") has contradicted the Bible so many
times, especially in Romans 6 & 7. Steve Nash (a.k.a. "Michael Christ")
is unable to comprehend the Word of God that is contained in Romans
6 & 7. Steve Nash (a.k.a. "Michael Christ") would be able to understand
Romans 6 & 7 if he were regenerated by the Holy Spirit. But that is
something that occurs only within those who have been chosen by God,
and who are of the "elect".

And, as can clearly be seen in his fatuous verbosity on display here
every day, that could not possibly include Steve Nash (a.k.a. "Michael
Christ").

He cannot even name one other person besides himself who holds the
same beliefs as he holds. I'm thankful that he is the only member of his
Satanic cult.

"The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from
the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand
them because they are discerned only through the Spirit."
[1 Corinthians 2:14]

==================

Romans 6
What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound?
By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? Do you not know
that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into
his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in
order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the
Father, we too might walk in newness of life. For if we have been united
with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be united with him in a
resurrection like his. We know that our old self was crucified with him in
order that the body of sin might be brought to nothing, so that we would
no longer be enslaved to sin. For one who has died has been set free from
sin. Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we will also live
with him. We know that Christ, being raised from the dead, will never die
again; death no longer has dominion over him. For the death he died he
died to sin, once for all, but the life he lives he lives to God. So you
also must consider yourselves dead to sin and alive to God in Christ
Jesus. Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, to make you obey
its passions. Do not present your members to sin as instruments for
unrighteousness, but present yourselves to God as those who have been
brought from death to life, and your members to God as instruments for
righteousness. For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not
under law but under grace. What then? Are we to sin because we are not
under law but under grace? By no means! Do you not know that if you
present yourselves to anyone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one
whom you obey, either of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which
leads to righteousness? But thanks be to God, that you who were once
slaves of sin have become obedient from the heart to the standard of
teaching to which you were committed, and, having been set free from sin,
have become slaves of righteousness. I am speaking in human terms, because
of your natural limitations. For just as you once presented your members
as slaves to impurity and to lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so
now present your members as slaves to righteousness leading to
sanctification. For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard
to righteousness. But what fruit were you getting at that time from the
things of which you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death.
But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of
God, the fruit you get leads to sanctification and its end, eternal life.
For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in
Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 7
Or do you not know, brothers--for I am speaking to those who know the
law--that the law is binding on a person only as long as he lives? For a
married woman is bound by law to her husband while he lives, but if her
husband dies she is released from the law of marriage. Accordingly, she
will be called an adulteress if she lives with another man while her
husband is alive. But if her husband dies, she is free from that law, and
if she marries another man she is not an adulteress. Likewise, my
brothers, you also have died to the law through the body of Christ, so
that you may belong to another, to him who has been raised from the dead,
in order that we may bear fruit for God. For while we were living in the
flesh, our sinful passions, aroused by the law, were at work in our
members to bear fruit for death. But now we are released from the law,
having died to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way
of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code. What then shall
we say? That the law is sin? By no means! Yet if it had not been for the
law, I would not have known sin. For I would not have known what it is to
covet if the law had not said, "You shall not covet." But sin, seizing an
opportunity through the commandment, produced in me all kinds of
covetousness. For apart from the law, sin lies dead. I was once alive
apart from the law, but when the commandment came, sin came alive and I
died. The very commandment that promised life proved to be death to me.
For sin, seizing an opportunity through the commandment, deceived me and
through it killed me. So the law is holy, and the commandment is holy and
righteous and good. Did that which is good, then, bring death to me? By no
means! It was sin, producing death in me through what is good, in order
that sin might be shown to be sin, and through the commandment might
become sinful beyond measure. For we know that the law is spiritual, but I
am of the flesh, sold under sin. For I do not understand my own actions.
For I do not do what I want, but I do the very thing I hate. Now if I do
what I do not want, I agree with the law, that it is good. So now it is no
longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me. For I know that nothing
good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh. For I have the desire to do what
is right, but not the ability to carry it out. For I do not do the good I
want, but the evil I do not want is what I keep on doing. Now if I do what
I do not want, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me.
So I find it to be a law that when I want to do right, evil lies close at
hand. For I delight in the law of God, in my inner being, but I see in my
members another law waging war against the law of my mind and making me
captive to the law of sin that dwells in my members. Wretched man that I
am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? Thanks be to God through
Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself serve the law of God with my
mind, but with my flesh I serve the law of sin.
--
God exists, uncreated and transcendental to space and time.
.
John Locke
2021-09-19 16:28:00 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bob Duncan
Post by Michael Christ
Is he not a sinner?
That is what sinners do, sin.
But not these Duncan sinners, these sinners are non-sinners in their
eyes and smirk at other people who are not like them.
Steve Nash contradicts the Bible in so many places, especially in Romans
6 & 7. Steve Nash is unable to comprehend the Word of God contained in
Romans 6 & 7. He would be able to understand Romans 6 & 7 if he had been
regenerated by the Holy Spirit. That is something that occurs within
everyone who is chosen by God, and is one of the elect.
...there is no evidence for your "God" and there is no "Word of God"
in the Bible...the Bible is a poorly written, contradictory,
fictional, human construct glommed together centuries ago by ancient,
ignorant, anonymous authors.




--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tell people there's an invisible man in the sky who created the universe,
and the vast majority will believe you. Tell them the paint is wet, and
they have to touch it to be sure.- George Carlin
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%
2021-09-19 16:31:43 UTC
Permalink
Post by John Locke
Post by Bob Duncan
Post by Michael Christ
Is he not a sinner?
That is what sinners do, sin.
But not these Duncan sinners, these sinners are non-sinners in their
eyes and smirk at other people who are not like them.
Steve Nash contradicts the Bible in so many places, especially in Romans
6 & 7. Steve Nash is unable to comprehend the Word of God contained in
Romans 6 & 7. He would be able to understand Romans 6 & 7 if he had been
regenerated by the Holy Spirit. That is something that occurs within
everyone who is chosen by God, and is one of the elect.
...there is no evidence for your "God" and there is no "Word of God"
in the Bible...the Bible is a poorly written, contradictory,
fictional, human construct glommed together centuries ago by ancient,
ignorant, anonymous authors.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tell people there's an invisible man in the sky who created the universe,
and the vast majority will believe you. Tell them the paint is wet, and
they have to touch it to be sure.- George Carlin
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same to you
John Locke
2021-09-19 16:56:17 UTC
Permalink
Post by %
Post by John Locke
Post by Bob Duncan
Post by Michael Christ
Is he not a sinner?
That is what sinners do, sin.
But not these Duncan sinners, these sinners are non-sinners in their
eyes and smirk at other people who are not like them.
Steve Nash contradicts the Bible in so many places, especially in Romans
6 & 7. Steve Nash is unable to comprehend the Word of God contained in
Romans 6 & 7. He would be able to understand Romans 6 & 7 if he had been
regenerated by the Holy Spirit. That is something that occurs within
everyone who is chosen by God, and is one of the elect.
...there is no evidence for your "God" and there is no "Word of God"
in the Bible...the Bible is a poorly written, contradictory,
fictional, human construct glommed together centuries ago by ancient,
ignorant, anonymous authors.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tell people there's an invisible man in the sky who created the universe,
and the vast majority will believe you. Tell them the paint is wet, and
they have to touch it to be sure.- George Carlin
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
same to you
...nah, it's not the same to me. I reject religious beliefs..all of
them I knew it was all bullshit when I was 6 years old.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tell people there's an invisible man in the sky who created the universe,
and the vast majority will believe you. Tell them the paint is wet, and
they have to touch it to be sure.- George Carlin
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Michael Christ
2021-09-19 23:51:51 UTC
Permalink
Post by John Locke
Post by %
Post by John Locke
Post by Bob Duncan
Post by Michael Christ
Is he not a sinner?
That is what sinners do, sin.
But not these Duncan sinners, these sinners are non-sinners in their
eyes and smirk at other people who are not like them.
Steve Nash contradicts the Bible in so many places, especially in Romans
6 & 7. Steve Nash is unable to comprehend the Word of God contained in
Romans 6 & 7. He would be able to understand Romans 6 & 7 if he had been
regenerated by the Holy Spirit. That is something that occurs within
everyone who is chosen by God, and is one of the elect.
...there is no evidence for your "God" and there is no "Word of God"
in the Bible...the Bible is a poorly written, contradictory,
fictional, human construct glommed together centuries ago by ancient,
ignorant, anonymous authors.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tell people there's an invisible man in the sky who created the universe,
and the vast majority will believe you. Tell them the paint is wet, and
they have to touch it to be sure.- George Carlin
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
same to you
...nah, it's not the same to me. I reject religious beliefs..all of
them I knew it was all bullshit when I was 6 years old.
So much for you growing up then.

You should make a 6 year old your President.





Michael Christ
--
Rom 5:8  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory".

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything".

"Sin is not what you do, it is what you are".

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God".

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination".

"Compromise will condemn you".

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus".

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all".

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life".

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything".

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying 'prove it' [as a foundation] is merely a straw man, to a straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."
Michelle Malkin
2021-09-20 14:44:04 UTC
Permalink
Post by Michael Christ
Post by John Locke
Post by %
Post by John Locke
Post by Bob Duncan
Post by Michael Christ
Is he not a sinner?
That is what sinners do, sin.
But not these Duncan sinners, these sinners are non-sinners in their
eyes and smirk at other people who are not like them.
Steve Nash contradicts the Bible in so many places, especially in Romans
6 & 7. Steve Nash is unable to comprehend the Word of God contained in
Romans 6 & 7. He would be able to understand Romans 6 & 7 if he had been
regenerated by the Holy Spirit. That is something that occurs within
everyone who is chosen by God, and is one of the elect.
...there is no evidence for your "God" and there is no "Word of God"
in the Bible...the Bible is a poorly written, contradictory,
fictional, human construct glommed together centuries ago by ancient,
ignorant, anonymous authors.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tell people there's an invisible man in the sky who created the universe,
and the vast majority will believe you. Tell them the paint is wet, and
they have to touch it to be sure.- George Carlin
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
same to you
...nah, it's not the same to me. I reject religious beliefs..all of
them I knew it was all bullshit when I was 6 years old.
So much for you growing up then.
You should make a 6 year old your President.
A child refuses to prove what he/she says because they can't.
Both Stevie Nash and Bobert Duncan can't prove anything
they say. When they try, they get everything wrong due to
deliberate religious ignorance.
Michael Christ
2021-09-19 22:53:22 UTC
Permalink
Notice how Bob Duncan is always avoiding the truth.

That is why he stays where he is.




Michael Christ
Post by Bob Duncan
Post by Michael Christ
Is he not a sinner?
That is what sinners do, sin.
But not these Duncan sinners, these sinners are non-sinners in their
eyes and smirk at other people who are not like them.
Steve Nash contradicts the Bible in so many places, especially in Romans
6 & 7. Steve Nash is unable to comprehend the Word of God contained in
Romans 6 & 7. He would be able to understand Romans 6 & 7 if he had been
regenerated by the Holy Spirit. That is something that occurs within
everyone who is chosen by God, and is one of the elect.
========
Romans 6
What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound?
By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? Do you not know
that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into
his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in
order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the
Father, we too might walk in newness of life. For if we have been united
with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be united with him in a
resurrection like his. We know that our old self was crucified with him in
order that the body of sin might be brought to nothing, so that we would
no longer be enslaved to sin. For one who has died has been set free from
sin. Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we will also live
with him. We know that Christ, being raised from the dead, will never die
again; death no longer has dominion over him. For the death he died he
died to sin, once for all, but the life he lives he lives to God. So you
also must consider yourselves dead to sin and alive to God in Christ
Jesus. Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, to make you obey
its passions. Do not present your members to sin as instruments for
unrighteousness, but present yourselves to God as those who have been
brought from death to life, and your members to God as instruments for
righteousness. For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not
under law but under grace. What then? Are we to sin because we are not
under law but under grace? By no means! Do you not know that if you
present yourselves to anyone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one
whom you obey, either of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which
leads to righteousness? But thanks be to God, that you who were once
slaves of sin have become obedient from the heart to the standard of
teaching to which you were committed, and, having been set free from sin,
have become slaves of righteousness. I am speaking in human terms, because
of your natural limitations. For just as you once presented your members
as slaves to impurity and to lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so
now present your members as slaves to righteousness leading to
sanctification. For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard
to righteousness. But what fruit were you getting at that time from the
things of which you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death.
But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of
God, the fruit you get leads to sanctification and its end, eternal life.
For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in
Christ Jesus our Lord.
Romans 7
Or do you not know, brothers--for I am speaking to those who know the
law--that the law is binding on a person only as long as he lives? For a
married woman is bound by law to her husband while he lives, but if her
husband dies she is released from the law of marriage. Accordingly, she
will be called an adulteress if she lives with another man while her
husband is alive. But if her husband dies, she is free from that law, and
if she marries another man she is not an adulteress. Likewise, my
brothers, you also have died to the law through the body of Christ, so
that you may belong to another, to him who has been raised from the dead,
in order that we may bear fruit for God. For while we were living in the
flesh, our sinful passions, aroused by the law, were at work in our
members to bear fruit for death. But now we are released from the law,
having died to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way
of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code. What then shall
we say? That the law is sin? By no means! Yet if it had not been for the
law, I would not have known sin. For I would not have known what it is to
covet if the law had not said, "You shall not covet." But sin, seizing an
opportunity through the commandment, produced in me all kinds of
covetousness. For apart from the law, sin lies dead. I was once alive
apart from the law, but when the commandment came, sin came alive and I
died. The very commandment that promised life proved to be death to me.
For sin, seizing an opportunity through the commandment, deceived me and
through it killed me. So the law is holy, and the commandment is holy and
righteous and good. Did that which is good, then, bring death to me? By no
means! It was sin, producing death in me through what is good, in order
that sin might be shown to be sin, and through the commandment might
become sinful beyond measure. For we know that the law is spiritual, but I
am of the flesh, sold under sin. For I do not understand my own actions.
For I do not do what I want, but I do the very thing I hate. Now if I do
what I do not want, I agree with the law, that it is good. So now it is no
longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me. For I know that nothing
good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh. For I have the desire to do what
is right, but not the ability to carry it out. For I do not do the good I
want, but the evil I do not want is what I keep on doing. Now if I do what
I do not want, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me.
So I find it to be a law that when I want to do right, evil lies close at
hand. For I delight in the law of God, in my inner being, but I see in my
members another law waging war against the law of my mind and making me
captive to the law of sin that dwells in my members. Wretched man that I
am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? Thanks be to God through
Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself serve the law of God with my
mind, but with my flesh I serve the law of sin.
--
Rom 5:8  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory".

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything".

"Sin is not what you do, it is what you are".

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God".

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination".

"Compromise will condemn you".

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus".

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all".

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life".

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything".

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying 'prove it' [as a foundation] is merely a straw man, to a straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."
Bob Duncan
2021-09-18 14:12:22 UTC
Permalink
Yes, that is true, and the proof of that is that he snips what people
write!

=================================================================

No, that's not proof of anything.

Not when what I remove is just another feeble attempt by you to change
the subject.

Why do you have to lie so much?

That's proof that you do not know the Bible, nor it's Author.

Romans 6
What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound?
By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? Do you not
know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were
baptized into his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism
into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by
the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life. For if we
have been united with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be
united with him in a resurrection like his. We know that our old self
was crucified with him in order that the body of sin might be brought to
nothing, so that we would no longer be enslaved to sin. For one who has
died has been set free from sin. Now if we have died with Christ, we
believe that we will also live with him. We know that Christ, being
raised from the dead, will never die again; death no longer has dominion
over him. For the death he died he died to sin, once for all, but the
life he lives he lives to God. So you also must consider yourselves dead
to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus. Let not sin therefore reign in
your mortal body, to make you obey its passions. Do not present your
members to sin as instruments for unrighteousness, but present
yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life, and
your members to God as instruments for righteousness. For sin will have
no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace. What
then? Are we to sin because we are not under law but under grace? By no
means! Do you not know that if you present yourselves to anyone as
obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin,
which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness? But
thanks be to God, that you who were once slaves of sin have become
obedient from the heart to the standard of teaching to which you were
committed, and, having been set free from sin, have become slaves of
righteousness. I am speaking in human terms, because of your natural
limitations. For just as you once presented your members as slaves to
impurity and to lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so now present
your members as slaves to righteousness leading to sanctification. For
when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness.
But what fruit were you getting at that time from the things of which
you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death. But now that
you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the fruit
you get leads to sanctification and its end, eternal life. For the wages
of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ
Jesus our Lord.
--
God exists, uncreated and transcendental to space and time.
.
Bob Duncan
2021-09-18 14:15:17 UTC
Permalink
I have the same opinion.
John 8:17 It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men
is true.
==============================================================

Why do you always have to take Bible verses out of context?

A person's "opinion" cannot be their "testimony".

"Testimony" is not someone's "opinion".

A person's "testimony" is about an event that was witnessed by that person.

Two person's testimony would be about the same event at the same time.

Why do you have to lie so much?

Once again, you prove that you do not know the Bible, nor it's Author.

Romans 6
What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound?
By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? Do you not
know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were
baptized into his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism
into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by
the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life. For if we
have been united with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be
united with him in a resurrection like his. We know that our old self
was crucified with him in order that the body of sin might be brought to
nothing, so that we would no longer be enslaved to sin. For one who has
died has been set free from sin. Now if we have died with Christ, we
believe that we will also live with him. We know that Christ, being
raised from the dead, will never die again; death no longer has dominion
over him. For the death he died he died to sin, once for all, but the
life he lives he lives to God. So you also must consider yourselves dead
to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus. Let not sin therefore reign in
your mortal body, to make you obey its passions. Do not present your
members to sin as instruments for unrighteousness, but present
yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life, and
your members to God as instruments for righteousness. For sin will have
no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace. What
then? Are we to sin because we are not under law but under grace? By no
means! Do you not know that if you present yourselves to anyone as
obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin,
which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness? But
thanks be to God, that you who were once slaves of sin have become
obedient from the heart to the standard of teaching to which you were
committed, and, having been set free from sin, have become slaves of
righteousness. I am speaking in human terms, because of your natural
limitations. For just as you once presented your members as slaves to
impurity and to lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so now present
your members as slaves to righteousness leading to sanctification. For
when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness.
But what fruit were you getting at that time from the things of which
you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death. But now that
you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the fruit
you get leads to sanctification and its end, eternal life. For the wages
of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ
Jesus our Lord.
--
God exists, uncreated and transcendental to space and time.
.
Bob Duncan
2021-09-19 01:08:33 UTC
Permalink
A person's "opinion" cannot be their "testimony".

"Testimony" is not someone's "opinion".

A person's "testimony" is about a physical event that was witnessed by
that person, at a certain place and at a certain time.

Once again, you prove that you do not know the Bible, nor it's Author.

Romans 6
What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound?
By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? Do you not
know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were
baptized into his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism
into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by
the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life. For if we
have been united with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be
united with him in a resurrection like his. We know that our old self
was crucified with him in order that the body of sin might be brought to
nothing, so that we would no longer be enslaved to sin. For one who has
died has been set free from sin. Now if we have died with Christ, we
believe that we will also live with him. We know that Christ, being
raised from the dead, will never die again; death no longer has dominion
over him. For the death he died he died to sin, once for all, but the
life he lives he lives to God. So you also must consider yourselves dead
to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus. Let not sin therefore reign in
your mortal body, to make you obey its passions. Do not present your
members to sin as instruments for unrighteousness, but present
yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life, and
your members to God as instruments for righteousness. For sin will have
no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace. What
then? Are we to sin because we are not under law but under grace? By no
means! Do you not know that if you present yourselves to anyone as
obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin,
which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness? But
thanks be to God, that you who were once slaves of sin have become
obedient from the heart to the standard of teaching to which you were
committed, and, having been set free from sin, have become slaves of
righteousness. I am speaking in human terms, because of your natural
limitations. For just as you once presented your members as slaves to
impurity and to lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so now present
your members as slaves to righteousness leading to sanctification. For
when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness.
But what fruit were you getting at that time from the things of which
you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death. But now that
you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the fruit
you get leads to sanctification and its end, eternal life. For the wages
of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ
Jesus our Lord.
--
God exists, uncreated and transcendental to space and time.
.
Michael Christ
2021-09-19 01:36:22 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bob Duncan
A person's "opinion" cannot be their "testimony".
My opinion is that you are a sinner, Bob, and that is my
testimony/experience of you.









Michael Christ
Post by Bob Duncan
"Testimony" is not someone's "opinion".
A person's "testimony" is about a physical event that was witnessed by
that person, at a certain place and at a certain time.
Once again, you prove that you do not know the Bible, nor it's Author.
Romans 6
What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound?
By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? Do you not
know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were
baptized into his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism
into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by
the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life. For if we
have been united with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be
united with him in a resurrection like his. We know that our old self
was crucified with him in order that the body of sin might be brought to
nothing, so that we would no longer be enslaved to sin. For one who has
died has been set free from sin. Now if we have died with Christ, we
believe that we will also live with him. We know that Christ, being
raised from the dead, will never die again; death no longer has dominion
over him. For the death he died he died to sin, once for all, but the
life he lives he lives to God. So you also must consider yourselves dead
to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus. Let not sin therefore reign in
your mortal body, to make you obey its passions. Do not present your
members to sin as instruments for unrighteousness, but present
yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life, and
your members to God as instruments for righteousness. For sin will have
no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace. What
then? Are we to sin because we are not under law but under grace? By no
means! Do you not know that if you present yourselves to anyone as
obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin,
which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness? But
thanks be to God, that you who were once slaves of sin have become
obedient from the heart to the standard of teaching to which you were
committed, and, having been set free from sin, have become slaves of
righteousness. I am speaking in human terms, because of your natural
limitations. For just as you once presented your members as slaves to
impurity and to lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so now present
your members as slaves to righteousness leading to sanctification. For
when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness.
But what fruit were you getting at that time from the things of which
you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death. But now that
you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the fruit
you get leads to sanctification and its end, eternal life. For the wages
of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ
Jesus our Lord.
--
Rom 5:8  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory".

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything".

"Sin is not what you do, it is what you are".

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God".

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination".

"Compromise will condemn you".

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus".

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all".

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life".

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything".

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying 'prove it' [as a foundation] is merely a straw man, to a straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."
Michael Christ
2021-09-17 00:10:39 UTC
Permalink
There are no sinners in Christ Jesus.

He is not the Lord of sin.

Stick your fingers in your Calvinist ears till the cows come home but it
is not going to help.

You are a sinner and God does not tolerate sinning in His presence. If
your bible does not tell you that, you know nothing about it, and all
the bible quoting in the world ain't gonna help.









Michael Christ
Post by Bob Duncan
Steve Nash Does Not Know the Bible, or it's Author
Romans 7:13-20
Did that which is good, then, bring death to me? By no means! It was sin, producing death in me through what is good, in order that sin might be shown to be sin, and through the commandment might become sinful beyond measure. For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am of the flesh, sold under sin. For I do not understand my own actions. For I do not do what I want, but I do the very thing I hate. Now if I do what I do not want, I agree with the law, that it is good. So now it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me. For I know that nothing good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh. For I have the desire to do what is right, but not the ability to carry it out. For I do not do the good I want, but the evil I do not want is what I keep on doing. Now if I do what I do not want, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me.
--
Rom 5:8  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory".

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything".

"Sin is not what you do, it is what you are".

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God".

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination".

"Compromise will condemn you".

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus".

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all".

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life".

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything".

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying 'prove it' [as a foundation] is merely a straw man, to a straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."
Michael Christ
2021-09-16 23:30:43 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bob Duncan
Steve Nash Does Not Know the Bible, or it's Author
Romans 7:4-6
Likewise, my brothers, you also have died to the law through the body of Christ, so that you may belong to another, to him who has been raised from the dead, in order that we may bear fruit for God. For while we were living in the flesh, our sinful passions, aroused by the law, were at work in our members to bear fruit for death. But now we are released from the law, having died to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code.
If you are dead to sin and serve in the new way of the Spirit of God,
why then do you sin and excuse yourself therein??

Is God not powerful enough for you?





Michael Christ
--
Rom 5:8  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory".

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything".

"Sin is not what you do, it is what you are".

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God".

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination".

"Compromise will condemn you".

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus".

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all".

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life".

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything".

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying 'prove it' [as a foundation] is merely a straw man, to a straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."
Michael Christ
2021-09-16 23:23:20 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bob Duncan
Steve Nash Does Not Know the Bible, or it's Author
Romans 6:15-19
What then? Are we to sin because we are not under law but under grace? By no means! Do you not know that if you present yourselves to anyone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness? But thanks be to God, that you who were once slaves of sin have become obedient from the heart to the standard of teaching to which you
were committed, and, having been set free from sin, have become slaves of righteousness.
How can a slave to righteousness continue in his sinnng, be a slave to
sin as well?

The 2 masters Calvinist work-a-round. Come one, come all!!

Win, win, religion.

What a deal, folks!!!




I am speaking in human terms, because of your natural limitations. For
just as you once presented your members as slaves to impurity and to
lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so now present your members as
slaves to righteousness leading to sanctification.
And you do that by continuing to be a sinner?

You are not a believer in God, Buddy Bob. You are trying to do it a la
Bob Duncan, and therein is the problem.







Michael Christ
--
Rom 5:8  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory".

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything".

"Sin is not what you do, it is what you are".

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God".

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination".

"Compromise will condemn you".

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus".

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all".

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life".

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything".

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying 'prove it' [as a foundation] is merely a straw man, to a straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."
Michael Christ
2021-09-16 23:17:27 UTC
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Steve Nash Does Not Know the Bible, or it's Author
Romans 6:12-14
Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body,
Ummmm, but you do.




to make you obey its passions. Do not present your members to sin as
instruments for unrighteousness, but present yourselves to God as those
who have been brought from death to life, and your members to God as
instruments for righteousness. For sin will have no dominion over you,
since you are not under law but under grace.
Michael Christ
--
Rom 5:8  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory".

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything".

"Sin is not what you do, it is what you are".

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God".

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination".

"Compromise will condemn you".

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus".

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all".

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life".

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything".

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying 'prove it' [as a foundation] is merely a straw man, to a straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."
Cloud Hobbit
2021-09-25 20:58:06 UTC
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Post by Bob Duncan
Steve Nash Does Not Know the Bible, or it's Author
Snip religious crap.

Neither does anyone else.
Post by Bob Duncan
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God exists, uncreated and transcendental to space and time.
.
There are no gods unless we create them.

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