Post by Rudy Canoza Post by Jack Shit Post by a322x1n
The electoral college is, was and always will be about white
What's the matter, have you completely run out of original
ideas so you have to repost the same tired old lame BS?
It is not even an original idea - just a recycled Big Lie.
The Electoral College is essentially a voter suppression scheme.
It's meant to keep while, male, land owners in power, nothing
This is the second time in the 21st century that the American
voters couldn't have the President they voted for. If the
Electoral College isn't done away America will deserve the
disasters it will bring.
So fuck everyone but California and NY. They alone could determine a
president. Not fair.
Below are the 11 biggest states and actual and hypothetical vote
Total Clinton Winner
State _votes_ _80% votes_ _votes_ _votes_
CA 14181595 11345276 8753788 8753788
C TX 8969226 7175381 3877868 4685047
T FL 9420039 7536031 4504975
T NY 7710126 6168101 4547218
4547218 C IL 5536424 4429139 3090729
3090729 C PA 6115402 4892322 2926441
2970733 T OH 5496487 4397190 2394164
2841005 T GA 4092373 3273898 1877963
2089104 T MI 4799284 3839427 2268839
2279543 T NC 4741564 3793251 2189316
2362631 T NJ 3874046 3099237 2148278
Total 74936566 59949253 38579579 40385962
In that election, there were a little over 135.5 million total votes
cast for presidential candidates. Clinton and Trump between them got
128.8 million with the remaining 6.7 million spread among Gary
Johnson, Jill Stein and Evan McMullin.
First, let's assume one of the two major candidates were to win all
11 of these states with an *impossible* 80% of the vote (third
column). That comes to 59.9 million votes - only 46.5% of the total
128.8 million votes cast for Clinton and Trump combined. So these 11
states could not win the election for a candidate even if one of them
took all 11 by 80% margins.
The last two columns show the vote total for the winner of each
state, with the last initial of the actual winner. But let's assume
one candidate won *all* of the states with that winning total. That
comes to 40.4 million votes, which is only 31.3% of Clinton's and
Trump's combined 128.8 million - even farther away from a majority of
that combined total.
Finally, and perhaps most importantly, and as that last "W" column
shows, "the big states" don't all swing the same way. Trump won seven
of the eleven. Clinton won 51.5% of the total "big state" vote, but
that was only 38.6 million, or 30%, of the combined Clinton/Trump
This notion that the "big states / population centers" can determine
the presidency is complete bullshit. As big as they are, they just
aren't big enough, *and* they don't all go for one party.
But now let's put a twist on this. Suppose under the present
electoral college system, one candidate won all 11 of these big
states with, say, 48% of the votes in each state, while the other
major party candidate got 46% in all 11 states, and other minor
candidates divided up the remaining 6% of the votes. That candidate
who won all 11 states would become president, as these 11 states hold
exactly 270 electoral votes, the number needed to win.
48% of the total votes cast, 74,936,566, is about 36,000,000 votes,
which is approximately 26.7% of the total votes cast in the election.
Once again, no candidate is going to win all 11 of these states, as
some are red and some are blue, but the point is, there is a greater
theoretical possibility of the "big states" swinging the election
under the present system than there is in a popular vote system.
The deplorables' whingeing about the "big states" is simply wrong and
stupid, but then, *everything* the deplorables whinge about is stupid.
Thanks, excellent post.