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Ivan The Terrible
2020-05-23 03:16:13 UTC
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Yap Honghor
2020-05-23 09:38:11 UTC
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You agree because you dislike Dems...
But you ignore the frequent lies from GOP/Trump, why???????
Siri Cruise
2020-05-23 13:15:59 UTC
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You agree because you dislike Dems...
But you ignore the frequent lies from GOP/Trump, why???????
I'm not buying a used car, so I don't care if Obama lies or no.
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Yap Honghor
2020-05-24 00:54:07 UTC
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You agree because you dislike Dems...
But you ignore the frequent lies from GOP/Trump, why???????
I'm not buying a used car, so I don't care if Obama lies or no.
But Trump will not let you go if you don't buy his old car as though it is new...
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JWS
2020-05-23 12:37:38 UTC
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The only "lie" that the article specifically calls out is:
"Obama’s so-called stimulus plan – which administration officials
said would save or create more than 3 million jobs and keep
unemployment below 8 percent? "
After the Bush economic crash of 2007 and the resultant soaring of
unemployment to nearly 10% by 2010, the unemployment began coming
down at a steady rate. Under 8% was achieved by 2012, Of course the
article was written at the end of 2010 (funny that you have to reach
back that far for your little propaganda game).
Unemployment continued to come down steadily through out Obama's
term, fulfilling the promise of his stimulus plan. In fact, the rate
of decrease in unemployment was higher during Obama than it has been
for Drumph. But, to be fair, that may have more to do with job
saturation.
Marvin Sebourn
2020-05-24 03:17:49 UTC
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That out of date article reminds me somewhat of a recent Joe/Ivan attempt at deception, and I copy from my post here of April 25, 2020 in AA:

:That’s typical of Joe’s deceit. On April 25th of this year, Joe posted “Poll:Obama Worst President Since WWII”, which concluded that in one Quinnipiac survey Obama was rated the worst president since WWII.

I’ll continue with my reply to that post:
“That's Joe's Quinnipiac poll, July 2nd, 2014.

But here is the Quinnipiac poll of March 2nd 2018, headlined:

Quinnipiac poll: 41% say Trump worst president since World War II
Obama received 21% of the votes.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/03/07/quinnipiac-poll-41-say-trump-worst-president-since-world-war-ii/404118002/

So why did you put forth a poll taken roughly 4 years before Trump became President?

Joe, did you think we would be too stupid to notice that Trump wasn't mentioned?

Did you think we'd accept your post at face value?

Or did you not even think of the timeliness of your post, that is, not realizing that the poll was made over eight years ago?

And you chide us and me as being liars?

Looks you you wisely avoided the field of Law, Joe.

Marvin Sebourn
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Ivan The Terrible
2020-05-24 04:59:14 UTC
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:That’s typical of Joe’s deceit. On April 25th of this year, Joe posted “Poll:Obama Worst President Since WWII”, which concluded that in one Quinnipiac survey Obama was rated the worst president since WWII.
“That's Joe's Quinnipiac poll, July 2nd, 2014.
Quinnipiac poll: 41% say Trump worst president since World War II
Obama received 21% of the votes.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/03/07/quinnipiac-poll-41-say-trump-worst-president-since-world-war-ii/404118002/
So why did you put forth a poll taken roughly 4 years before Trump became President?
Joe, did you think we would be too stupid to notice that Trump wasn't mentioned?
Did you think we'd accept your post at face value?
Or did you not even think of the timeliness of your post, that is, not realizing that the poll was made over eight years ago?
And you chide us and me as being liars
YOU ARE.
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Looks you you wisely avoided the field of Law, Joe.
I didn't, liar. I was a Legal Officer in the navy, prosecuting cases at Captain's Mast.
Marvin Sebourn
2020-05-24 17:11:35 UTC
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:That’s typical of Joe’s deceit. On April 25th of this year, Joe posted “Poll:Obama Worst President Since WWII”, which concluded that in one Quinnipiac survey Obama was rated the worst president since WWII.
“That's Joe's Quinnipiac poll, July 2nd, 2014.
Quinnipiac poll: 41% say Trump worst president since World War II
Obama received 21% of the votes.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/03/07/quinnipiac-poll-41-say-trump-worst-president-since-world-war-ii/404118002/
So why did you put forth a poll taken roughly 4 years before Trump became President?
Joe, did you think we would be too stupid to notice that Trump wasn't mentioned?
Did you think we'd accept your post at face value?
Or did you not even think of the timeliness of your post, that is, not realizing that the poll was made over eight years ago?
And you chide us and me as being liars
YOU ARE.
Post by Marvin Sebourn
Looks you you wisely avoided the field of Law, Joe.
I didn't, liar. I was a Legal Officer in the navy, prosecuting cases at Captain's Mast.
Yes Joe, I know how many people give their experience in the field of law solely as being a legal officer in the U.S. Navy, serving on cases of non-judicial punishment. Are you now, or have you ever been a lawyer? If you have not, can you practice law as a lawyer would?

You wisely(?) avoided the bulk of my post, citing your attempt to make Obama appear as the worst president since WWII, when you used an eight year old poll that did not include Trump.

Was that your simple carelessness?
Did you not realize that Trump was not included in the poll?
Did you look at the date of your cited poll?
Did you keep Trump out of the poll intentionally, showing deceptive practice?
Or was it just your carelessness and incompetence?

It's like so many of your posts, like the very recent one where you claimed that Judge Jones had given a ruling in the Kitzmiller trial that was directly applicable to Christian schools.

You feel that if you speak incorrectly, it's only a mistake, or we didn't understand what you said. If a non-theist here makes a mistake, it is a lie. Or, a LIE. And they and all the other non-theists here are LIARS.
People here know who the liars are here.

Marvin Sebourn
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