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How A God Can Be Crucified And "Die"
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Greywolf
2018-12-04 16:37:41 UTC
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Hmmmm, seems I'm having a problem with that one.

Can any "Christian" explain how a being who's "God" can actually "die" and still be "God"?

And if the God Jesus didn't actually "die," doesn't that mean man's "sins" haven't really been forgiven?
John Locke
2018-12-04 16:58:48 UTC
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Post by Greywolf
Hmmmm, seems I'm having a problem with that one.
Can any "Christian" explain how a being who's "God" can actually "die" and still be "God"?
And if the God Jesus didn't actually "die," doesn't that mean man's "sins" haven't really been forgiven?
..well if that crazy Jesus story were actually true, probably no.
There certainly was no sacrifice. The fiction writers should have had
Jesus stay dead. It would have been a much more convincing tale.
You don't get to come back to life, recycle yourself up to paradise
and then claim a "sacrifice" for the sins of man. Never too late for a
rewrite. Any volunteers ? Should take about 60 minutes.
Christopher A. Lee
2018-12-04 18:06:48 UTC
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On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 08:37:41 -0800 (PST), Greywolf
Post by Greywolf
Hmmmm, seems I'm having a problem with that one.
Can any "Christian" explain how a being who's "God" can actually "die" and still be "God"?
And if the God Jesus didn't actually "die," doesn't that mean man's
"sins" haven't really been forgiven?
..well if that crazy Jesus story were actually true, probably no.
There certainly was no sacrifice. The fiction writers should have had
Jesus stay dead. It would have been a much more convincing tale.
You don't get to come back to life, recycle yourself up to paradise
and then claim a "sacrifice" for the sins of man. Never too late for a
rewrite. Any volunteers ? Should take about 60 minutes.
It comes from the pre-Christian pagan fertility/Mother-Earth
religions...

These had a goddess-queen who had lost her original identity which was
replaced by that of the mother goddess.

There was also a god-king who had also had his identity changed the
same way.

Because these religions were based on fertility, farming and the
seasons, his job was to make the goddess-queen pregnant so she would
give birth in midwinter, and every spring he was sacrificed to the
"actual" Mother-Earth and anonymously ploughed into the ground.
A few days later, another god-king was chosen to repeat the cycle for
another year.

Sound familiar?

The whole Easter story is derived from this. Including the fertility
symbols - fluffy chicks and cuddly bunnies.
Bob
2018-12-04 18:58:53 UTC
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Because these religions were based on fertility, farming and the
seasons, his job was to make the goddess-queen pregnant so she would
give birth in midwinter, and every spring he was sacrificed to the
"actual" Mother-Earth and anonymously ploughed into the ground.
A few days later, another god-king was chosen to repeat the cycle for
another year.
Sound familiar?
Satan can only imitate God.


Your Founding Fathers Erred
2018-12-04 22:08:53 UTC
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Because these religions were based on fertility, farming and the
seasons, his job was to make the goddess-queen pregnant so she would
give birth in midwinter, and every spring he was sacrificed to the
"actual" Mother-Earth and anonymously ploughed into the ground.
A few days later, another god-king was chosen to repeat the cycle for
another year.
Sound familiar?
Satan can only imitate God.
Bob, this is not a rational argument to be having in front of people who say they don't believe in anything supernatural.
Instead of wasting you time bashing the Catholic Church, you should spend it wisely by training yourself in logic, Law and history.
At least Catholics of the 3 first centuries won the debates against their Greek unbelieving peers.
Have ever heard about Origen, Tertullian.... etc?
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http://youtu.be/KXmBnFORwI0
Greywolf
2018-12-05 01:29:47 UTC
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Because these religions were based on fertility, farming and the
seasons, his job was to make the goddess-queen pregnant so she would
give birth in midwinter, and every spring he was sacrificed to the
"actual" Mother-Earth and anonymously ploughed into the ground.
A few days later, another god-king was chosen to repeat the cycle for
another year.
Sound familiar?
Satan can only imitate God.
Bob, this is not a rational argument to be having in front of people who say they don't believe in anything supernatural.
Instead of wasting you time bashing the Catholic Church, you should spend it wisely by training yourself in logic, Law and history.
At least Catholics of the 3 first centuries won the debates against their Greek unbelieving peers.
Have ever heard about Origen, Tertullian.... etc?
Sure have! And both were regarded as "heretics" by fellow Church Bishops at some point or another.
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http://youtu.be/KXmBnFORwI0
Then explain why God continues to supply Satan with His Satanic Powers to lead man further into sin with. Isn't God Evil for doing so?
Cloud Hobbit
2018-12-05 10:26:31 UTC
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Satan can only imitate God.
You're saying he shouldn't have a role model?
hleopold
2018-12-05 04:26:30 UTC
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On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 08:37:41 -0800 (PST), Greywolf
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Hmmmm, seems I'm having a problem with that one.
Can any "Christian" explain how a being who's "God" can actually "die" and
still be "God"?
And if the God Jesus didn't actually "die," doesn't that mean man's "sins"
haven't really been forgiven?
..well if that crazy Jesus story were actually true, probably no.
There certainly was no sacrifice. The fiction writers should have had
Jesus stay dead. It would have been a much more convincing tale.
You don't get to come back to life, recycle yourself up to paradise
and then claim a "sacrifice" for the sins of man. Never too late for a
rewrite. Any volunteers ? Should take about 60 minutes.
Prometheus makes for a much better creator god, he created man from clay,
tricked Zeus into give man fire, then paid a horrible price for his trickery,
chained forever to a rock having his liver eaten daily by an eagle. This is a
far worse payment than the Christian god had to pay, a day and a half
vacation in hell that to something that is supposedly eternal would not be
even as long as a human blinking once. Between the two Prometheus certainly
comes across as the far better person, much less “god.” Hell, a cat I
read about recently would make a better “god” than the Christian god, she
gave up her life saving her kittens from a house fire, going into the burning
home not once, not twice, but four times saving her four kittens only to
shortly die from her burns. This was not the only time something like this
has happened, which to me shows far more love of another than the Christian
god/Jesus shows at any time in the bible.

Or my dog, Midnight, a small black and white terrier that attacked a much
larger dog that had broken its chain and attacked my sister. Midnight did not
survive, but my sister got away unharmed. Midnight was always a happy little
dog, more of a clown than anything else, but he was also a very loyal dog to
his family. I think if I had to belong to a church, I can’t think of a
better one than the Church of Midnight. Praise Midnight, greater love has no
dog than to give up its one life to protect its owners baby sister.
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MarkA
2018-12-04 17:08:15 UTC
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Post by Greywolf
Hmmmm, seems I'm having a problem with that one.
Can any "Christian" explain how a being who's "God" can actually "die" and still be "God"?
And if the God Jesus didn't actually "die," doesn't that mean man's
"sins" haven't really been forgiven?
The authors of the New Testament had a problem: they wanted to eliminate
the need for sacrifices, but had to do it in a way that didn't negate the
validity of all the sacrificing that was done in the Old Testament (there
was a LOT). So, they came up with the "ultimate sacrifice" shtick: a
sacrifice so great, there will never be a need for any more.

Don't ask too many questions. God doesn't like people who rock the boat.
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putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it. -- Mark Twain
Bob
2018-12-04 17:21:04 UTC
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The authors of the New Testament had a problem: they wanted to eliminate
the need for sacrifices <snip>
Why? Why did the authors of the New Testament want to eliminate the need
for sacrifices?
MarkA
2018-12-06 14:33:55 UTC
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The authors of the New Testament had a problem: they wanted to
eliminate the need for sacrifices <snip>
Why? Why did the authors of the New Testament want to eliminate the
need for sacrifices?
Good question. Why did they authors of the Old Testament feel that
sacrifices were necessary to begin with?
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putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it. -- Mark Twain
Bob
2018-12-06 16:41:05 UTC
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The authors of the New Testament had a problem: they wanted to
eliminate the need for sacrifices <snip>
Why? Why did the authors of the New Testament want to eliminate the
need for sacrifices?
Good question. Why did they authors of the Old Testament feel that
sacrifices were necessary to begin with?
Unable to provide an answer to Question #1. Points awarded: 0

Question #2: Which Old Testament author or authors are you specifically
referring to who felt that sacrifices were necessary to begin with?

Question #3: Where in the writings of that author or authors did they
explicitly express their feelings that sacrifices were necessary and
should therefore be commenced? Book, chapter, verse.

Bonus Question for extra points to make up for your inability to answer
Question #1:
Where in the Old Testament (book, chapter, verse) did the first animal
sacrifice actually occur?
Slaveholders Can Tell Me Nothing About Human Right
2018-12-04 19:48:09 UTC
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How A God Can Be Crucified And "Die"
So you are not familiar with the two "natures of Christ" controversies?
You are proving my point that atheists are not good at history.
"For our sake and for our salvation He put on flesh and became man....
Was crucified under Pontius Pilatus...."

Brain was given to think with
JWS
2018-12-04 21:32:54 UTC
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How A God Can Be Crucified And "Die"
So you are not familiar with the two "natures of Christ" controversies?
You are proving my point that atheists are not good at history.
History? Ahhhhhaaaahahaahaaahahaaahaaahaaahaaahaaahaaaaaaa.
Post by Slaveholders Can Tell Me Nothing About Human Right
"For our sake and for our salvation He put on flesh and became man....
Was crucified under Pontius Pilatus...."
Brain was given to think with
Here's what happened. God got this cool idea to
offer himself as a sacrifice to bring in the rubes.
"I'll just get myself crucified and then I'll raise
myself from the dead." So he makes himself a man,
gets crucified, and, whoops, he's dead and can't
do anything about it. That's why there is no god
anymore. What a dumb ass! It's what you get for
thinking like a theist.
Your Founding Fathers Erred
2018-12-04 22:18:01 UTC
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How A God Can Be Crucified And "Die"
So you are not familiar with the two "natures of Christ" controversies?
You are proving my point that atheists are not good at history.
History? Ahhhhhaaaahahaahaaahahaaahaaahaaahaaahaaahaaaaaaa.
Post by Slaveholders Can Tell Me Nothing About Human Right
"For our sake and for our salvation He put on flesh and became man....
Was crucified under Pontius Pilatus...."
Brain was given to think with
Here's what happened. God got this cool idea to
offer himself as a sacrifice to bring in the rubes.
"I'll just get myself crucified and then I'll raise
myself from the dead." So he makes himself a man,
gets crucified, and, whoops, he's dead and can't
do anything about it. That's why there is no god
anymore. What a dumb ass! It's what you get for
thinking like a theist.
No, the Messiah/Christ got Crucified. The Messiah was born of a VIRGIN. Being born of a Virgin, He then displaced the pagan sons of god in order to bring the Ten Of Commandments to the pagan world.
The pagans(Greco-Roman) cut off the Jewish base to fill at home in their cultural and religious identity with the REAL SON OF GOD..... Allegory
Your Founding Fathers Erred
2018-12-04 22:27:44 UTC
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How A God Can Be Crucified And "Die"
So you are not familiar with the two "natures of Christ" controversies?
You are proving my point that atheists are not good at history.
History? Ahhhhhaaaahahaahaaahahaaahaaahaaahaaahaaahaaaaaaa.
Post by Slaveholders Can Tell Me Nothing About Human Right
"For our sake and for our salvation He put on flesh and became man....
Was crucified under Pontius Pilatus...."
Brain was given to think with
Here's what happened. God got this cool idea to
offer himself as a sacrifice to bring in the rubes.
"I'll just get myself crucified and then I'll raise
myself from the dead." So he makes himself a man,
gets crucified, and, whoops, he's dead and can't
do anything about it. That's why there is no god
anymore. What a dumb ass! It's what you get for
thinking like a theist.
No, the Messiah/Christ got Crucified. The Messiah was born of a VIRGIN. Being born of a Virgin, He then displaced the pagan sons of god in order to bring the Ten Of Commandments to the pagan world.
The pagans(Greco-Roman) cut off the Jewish base to fill at home in their cultural and religious identity with the REAL SON OF GOD..... Allegory
CORRECTION

No, the Messiah/Christ got Crucified. The Messiah was born of a VIRGIN. Being born of a Virgin, He then displaced the pagan sons of god in order to bring the Ten Of Commandments to the pagan world.
The pagans(Greco-Roman) cut off the Jewish base to feel at home in their cultural and religious identity with the REAL SON OF GOD..... Allegory
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2018-12-04 22:31:17 UTC
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How A God Can Be Crucified And "Die"
So you are not familiar with the two "natures of Christ" controversies?
You are proving my point that atheists are not good at history.
History? Ahhhhhaaaahahaahaaahahaaahaaahaaahaaahaaahaaaaaaa.
Post by Slaveholders Can Tell Me Nothing About Human Right
"For our sake and for our salvation He put on flesh and became man....
Was crucified under Pontius Pilatus...."
Brain was given to think with
Here's what happened. God got this cool idea to
offer himself as a sacrifice to bring in the rubes.
"I'll just get myself crucified and then I'll raise
myself from the dead." So he makes himself a man,
gets crucified, and, whoops, he's dead and can't
do anything about it. That's why there is no god
anymore. What a dumb ass! It's what you get for
thinking like a theist.
No, the Messiah/Christ got Crucified. The Messiah was born of a VIRGIN. Being born of a Virgin, He then displaced the pagan sons of god in order to bring the Ten Of Commandments to the pagan world.
The pagans(Greco-Roman) cut off the Jewish base to fill at home in their cultural and religious identity with the REAL SON OF GOD..... Allegory
CORRECTION
No, the Messiah/Christ got Crucified. The Messiah was born of a VIRGIN. Being born of a Virgin, He then displaced the pagan sons of god in order to bring the Ten Of Commandments to the pagan world.
The pagans(Greco-Roman) cut off the Jewish base to feel at home in their cultural and religious identity with the REAL SON OF GOD..... Allegory
why do you want to find my fathers
Greywolf
2018-12-04 23:53:17 UTC
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How A God Can Be Crucified And "Die"
So you are not familiar with the two "natures of Christ" controversies?
Really!

https://theatheistobserver.com/2018/05/10/the-god-jesus-on-the-date-of-his-second-coming-part-1/
Post by Slaveholders Can Tell Me Nothing About Human Right
You are proving my point that atheists are not good at history.
Well, it's sorta hard to pick between Jesus being born in 6 B.C.E or earlier (Matthew's Gospel), or 6 C.E. (Luke's Gospel). So why don't you set us right and tell us which version is historically accurate.
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"For our sake and for our salvation He put on flesh and became man....
While remaining a God all the while He was on earth.
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Was crucified under Pontius Pilatus...."
You're kidding! And all this time I thought it was under Donald Trump.

Anyway, doesn't matter when or where the God Jesus was nailed to a cross. He was a God all the while. And Gods don't "die."

https://theatheistobserver.com/2018/06/04/did-jesus-really-die-on-the-cross/
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Brain was given to think with
Is that what the God Jesus used to create Evil with (John 1:3)? If so, He didn't use it very wisely, now did He?
duke
2018-12-05 20:18:02 UTC
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How A God Can Be Crucified And "Die"
So you are not familiar with the two "natures of Christ" controversies?
Really!
https://theatheistobserver.com/2018/05/10/the-god-jesus-on-the-date-of-his-second-coming-part-1/
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You are proving my point that atheists are not good at history.
Well, it's sorta hard to pick between Jesus being born in 6 B.C.E or earlier (Matthew's Gospel), or 6 C.E. (Luke's Gospel). So why don't you set us right and tell us which version is historically accurate.
4BC to 6AD.
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"For our sake and for our salvation He put on flesh and became man....
While remaining a God all the while He was on earth.
No man saw.
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Was crucified under Pontius Pilatus...."
You're kidding! And all this time I thought it was under Donald Trump.
No wonder you're confused.
Post by Greywolf
Anyway, doesn't matter when or where the God Jesus was nailed to a cross. He was a God all the while. And Gods don't "die."
https://theatheistobserver.com/2018/06/04/did-jesus-really-die-on-the-cross/
His human nature did.
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Brain was given to think with
Is that what the God Jesus used to create Evil with (John 1:3)? If so, He didn't use it very wisely, now did He?
And to think you don't even know how to thank him for what he did.

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Greywolf
2018-12-07 03:00:31 UTC
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How A God Can Be Crucified And "Die"
So you are not familiar with the two "natures of Christ" controversies?
Really!
https://theatheistobserver.com/2018/05/10/the-god-jesus-on-the-date-of-his-second-coming-part-1/
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You are proving my point that atheists are not good at history.
Well, it's sorta hard to pick between Jesus being born in 6 B.C.E or earlier (Matthew's Gospel), or 6 C.E. (Luke's Gospel). So why don't you set us right and tell us which version is historically accurate.
4BC to 6AD.
How pathetic. Herod died in April, 4 B.C.E. But you have to allow for the two years that passed since the Magi visit. So that pushes the birth date to 6 B.C.E at a minimum.

So for HOW many years did it take for Jesus to be born?

Why not simply admit that one of the dates is in error. But you can't even do that, can you? Too difficult for you to tell the truth, isn't it?
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"For our sake and for our salvation He put on flesh and became man....
While remaining a God all the while He was on earth.
No man saw.
You're already on record claiming Jesus was God. Since all of Jesus' inner-circle were staring at Jesus at one point or another, they "saw" God. Quit being childish.
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Was crucified under Pontius Pilatus...."
You're kidding! And all this time I thought it was under Donald Trump.
No wonder you're confused.
Evidently you don't recognize sarcasm when you see it.
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Post by Greywolf
Anyway, doesn't matter when or where the God Jesus was nailed to a cross. He was a God all the while. And Gods don't "die."
https://theatheistobserver.com/2018/06/04/did-jesus-really-die-on-the-cross/
His human nature did.
His "human nature" was intertwined with his divine nature, you idiot. Just as the human and deity in Him was inextricably intertwined. And you don't Kill only a "part" of a God who's God.
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Brain was given to think with
Is that what the God Jesus used to create Evil with (John 1:3)? If so, He didn't use it very wisely, now did He?
And to think you don't even know how to thank him for what he did.
Glad you are finally on record admitting the God Jesus created Evil. For that, I'm going to leave your signature alone this time. You earned it.
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duke
2018-12-09 20:47:29 UTC
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How A God Can Be Crucified And "Die"
So you are not familiar with the two "natures of Christ" controversies?
Really!
https://theatheistobserver.com/2018/05/10/the-god-jesus-on-the-date-of-his-second-coming-part-1/
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You are proving my point that atheists are not good at history.
Well, it's sorta hard to pick between Jesus being born in 6 B.C.E or earlier (Matthew's Gospel), or 6 C.E. (Luke's Gospel). So why don't you set us right and tell us which version is historically accurate.
4BC to 6AD.
How pathetic. Herod died in April, 4 B.C.E. But you have to allow for the two years that passed since the Magi visit. So that pushes the birth date to 6 B.C.E at a minimum.
Haahaahaa. I can always depend on you to show your ass.
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So for HOW many years did it take for Jesus to be born?
Why not simply admit that one of the dates is in error. But you can't even do that, can you? Too difficult for you to tell the truth, isn't it?
Which "one"? I said sometime between 4BC and 6AD. Can't read, can you?
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"For our sake and for our salvation He put on flesh and became man....
While remaining a God all the while He was on earth.
No man saw.
You're already on record claiming Jesus was God. Since all of Jesus' inner-circle were staring at Jesus at one point or another, they "saw" God. Quit being childish.
Of course, as God become flesh.
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Was crucified under Pontius Pilatus...."
You're kidding! And all this time I thought it was under Donald Trump.
No wonder you're confused.
Evidently you don't recognize sarcasm when you see it.
You're just a dumb jerk.

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Greywolf
2018-12-10 01:41:18 UTC
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How A God Can Be Crucified And "Die"
So you are not familiar with the two "natures of Christ" controversies?
Really!
https://theatheistobserver.com/2018/05/10/the-god-jesus-on-the-date-of-his-second-coming-part-1/
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You are proving my point that atheists are not good at history.
Well, it's sorta hard to pick between Jesus being born in 6 B.C.E or earlier (Matthew's Gospel), or 6 C.E. (Luke's Gospel). So why don't you set us right and tell us which version is historically accurate.
4BC to 6AD.
How pathetic. Herod died in April, 4 B.C.E. But you have to allow for the two years that passed since the Magi visit. So that pushes the birth date to 6 B.C.E at a minimum.
Haahaahaa. I can always depend on you to show your ass.
I'm not the one showing their ass. First you show "4BC" which is not biblical, then you extend his birth to "6AD." That's a rather long "gestation period," don't you think?

See how hopeless a position you're in. You just lied about Jesus' birth and worship an Evil-Creating God. What are you going to do for an encore?
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So for HOW many years did it take for Jesus to be born?
Why not simply admit that one of the dates is in error. But you can't even do that, can you? Too difficult for you to tell the truth, isn't it?
Which "one"? I said sometime between 4BC and 6AD. Can't read, can you?
I sure can. Point to where you typed "sometime between" in your reply. The way you typed your reply it reads from 4BC to 6AD.
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"For our sake and for our salvation He put on flesh and became man....
While remaining a God all the while He was on earth.
No man saw.
You're already on record claiming Jesus was God. Since all of Jesus' inner-circle were staring at Jesus at one point or another, they "saw" God. Quit being childish.
Of course, as God become flesh.
You *did* say "God," Right?
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Was crucified under Pontius Pilatus...."
You're kidding! And all this time I thought it was under Donald Trump.
No wonder you're confused.
Evidently you don't recognize sarcasm when you see it.
You're just a dumb jerk.
That would be YOU. YOU'RE the the sleaze-ball, so-called "Christian" who blatantly proselytizes but denies it; lies his ass off continually; defies Matthew 16:21; and can't admit to the truth no matter what. You're the "dumb jerk," you deceiving slime-ball.
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2018-12-10 22:29:21 UTC
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How A God Can Be Crucified And "Die"
So you are not familiar with the two "natures of Christ" controversies?
Really!
https://theatheistobserver.com/2018/05/10/the-god-jesus-on-the-date-of-his-second-coming-part-1/
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You are proving my point that atheists are not good at history.
Well, it's sorta hard to pick between Jesus being born in 6 B.C.E or earlier (Matthew's Gospel), or 6 C.E. (Luke's Gospel). So why don't you set us right and tell us which version is historically accurate.
4BC to 6AD.
How pathetic. Herod died in April, 4 B.C.E. But you have to allow for the two years that passed since the Magi visit. So that pushes the birth date to 6 B.C.E at a minimum.
Haahaahaa. I can always depend on you to show your ass.
I'm not the one showing their ass. First you show "4BC" which is not biblical, then you extend his birth to "6AD." That's a rather long "gestation period," don't you think?
Yes, you ARE the one showing his ass. The closest we can come to the birth year
of Jesus is from 4BC to 6AD. That's a spread of 10 years. You and your stupid
gestation time.
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See how hopeless a position you're in. You just lied about Jesus' birth and worship an Evil-Creating God. What are you going to do for an encore?
I CLEARLY see how hopeless you are on knowledge of God.
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So for HOW many years did it take for Jesus to be born?
Why not simply admit that one of the dates is in error. But you can't even do that, can you? Too difficult for you to tell the truth, isn't it?
Which "one"? I said sometime between 4BC and 6AD. Can't read, can you?
I sure can. Point to where you typed "sometime between" in your reply. The way you typed your reply it reads from 4BC to 6AD.
Minimal intelligence covers that. I would expect your response from someone
like yap.
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Of course, as God become flesh.
You *did* say "God," Right?
Yep, one God.
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Was crucified under Pontius Pilatus...."
You're kidding! And all this time I thought it was under Donald Trump.
No wonder you're confused.
Evidently you don't recognize sarcasm when you see it.
You're just a dumb jerk.
That would be YOU. YOU'RE the the sleaze-ball, so-called "Christian" who blatantly proselytizes
Never.

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How A God Can Be Crucified And "Die"
So you are not familiar with the two "natures of Christ" controversies?
Really!
https://theatheistobserver.com/2018/05/10/the-god-jesus-on-the-date-of-his-second-coming-part-1/
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You are proving my point that atheists are not good at history.
Well, it's sorta hard to pick between Jesus being born in 6 B.C.E or earlier (Matthew's Gospel), or 6 C.E. (Luke's Gospel). So why don't you set us right and tell us which version is historically accurate.
4BC to 6AD.
How pathetic. Herod died in April, 4 B.C.E. But you have to allow for the two years that passed since the Magi visit. So that pushes the birth date to 6 B.C.E at a minimum.
Haahaahaa. I can always depend on you to show your ass.
I'm not the one showing their ass. First you show "4BC" which is not biblical, then you extend his birth to "6AD." That's a rather long "gestation period," don't you think?
Yes, you ARE the one showing his ass. The closest we can come to the birth year
of Jesus is from 4BC to 6AD. That's a spread of 10 years. You and your stupid
gestation time.
I was having fun with your wording. The way it was written was "4BC to 6AD" CAN be interpreted as meaning it took ten years for Jesus to be born. You didn't include the words "sometime between."

As for 4 B.C.E., it can't be right. Herod died in April of 4 B.C.E. You have to allow two more years for the Magi visit. That pushes the date back to at least 6 B.C.E.

And guess what? ONE of those two dates is incorrect. Isn't it?
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See how hopeless a position you're in. You just lied about Jesus' birth and worship an Evil-Creating God. What are you going to do for an encore?
I CLEARLY see how hopeless you are on knowledge of God.
You have no knowledge of God. You can't even make up your mind if Jesus was only human or God. You've claimed that you and God have "private and confidential" conversations when everyone and their grandmother knows you're lying; that you've made that up. Otherwise you'd be able to supply us with proof of it.
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So for HOW many years did it take for Jesus to be born?
Why not simply admit that one of the dates is in error. But you can't even do that, can you? Too difficult for you to tell the truth, isn't it?
Which "one"? I said sometime between 4BC and 6AD. Can't read, can you?
I sure can. Point to where you typed "sometime between" in your reply. The way you typed your reply it reads from 4BC to 6AD.
Minimal intelligence covers that. I would expect your response from someone
like yap.
Look at what you typed again and tell me a person couldn't have fun with that and claim you've posited a ten-year birth for Jesus.
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Of course, as God become flesh.
You *did* say "God," Right?
Yep, one God.
That became "flesh." Meaning that the God Jesus was God incarnate. And as God incarnate He couldn't POSSIBLY have "died" on the cross due to the fact that He was God. Do you not see how hopeless your stupid-ass position is?
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Was crucified under Pontius Pilatus...."
You're kidding! And all this time I thought it was under Donald Trump.
No wonder you're confused.
Evidently you don't recognize sarcasm when you see it.
You're just a dumb jerk.
That would be YOU. YOU'RE the the sleaze-ball, so-called "Christian" who blatantly proselytizes in this forum, lies pathologically, refuses to admit to the truth no matter what, and defies Matthew 10:14 because you could give a flying Hoot regarding the spirit of Jesus' command.
Never.
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Well, it's sorta hard to pick between Jesus being born in 6 B.C.E or earlier (Matthew's Gospel), or 6 C.E. (Luke's Gospel). So why don't you set us right and tell us which version is historically accurate.
4BC to 6AD.
How pathetic. Herod died in April, 4 B.C.E. But you have to allow for the two years that passed since the Magi visit. So that pushes the birth date to 6 B.C.E at a minimum.
Haahaahaa. I can always depend on you to show your ass.
I'm not the one showing their ass. First you show "4BC" which is not biblical, then you extend his birth to "6AD." That's a rather long "gestation period," don't you think?
Yes, you ARE the one showing his ass. The closest we can come to the birth year
of Jesus is from 4BC to 6AD. That's a spread of 10 years. You and your stupid
gestation time.
I was having fun with your wording. The way it was written was "4BC to 6AD" CAN be interpreted as meaning it took ten years for Jesus to be born. You didn't include the words "sometime between."
Run and hide. grey.
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As for 4 B.C.E., it can't be right. Herod died in April of 4 B.C.E. You have to allow two more years for the Magi visit. That pushes the date back to at least 6 B.C.E.
And guess what? ONE of those two dates is incorrect. Isn't it?
Yet Jesus was born sometimes in the time period "4BC up to 6AD". That's not
all that difficult for you, is it?
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So for HOW many years did it take for Jesus to be born?
Why not simply admit that one of the dates is in error. But you can't even do that, can you? Too difficult for you to tell the truth, isn't it?
Which "one"? I said sometime between 4BC and 6AD. Can't read, can you?
I sure can. Point to where you typed "sometime between" in your reply. The way you typed your reply it reads from 4BC to 6AD.
Minimal intelligence covers that. I would expect your response from someone
like yap.
Look at what you typed again and tell me a person couldn't have fun with that and claim you've posited a ten-year birth for Jesus.
I'm sorry. I figured you had at least minimal education.
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Of course, as God become flesh.
You *did* say "God," Right?
Yep, one God.
That became "flesh." Meaning that the God Jesus was God incarnate. And as God incarnate He couldn't POSSIBLY have "died" on the cross due to the fact that He was God. Do you not see how hopeless your stupid-ass position is?
Yes. God willed himself to become a new one cell conception in the womb of Mary
and to develop for the next nine months before birth. That way, the populace
saw nothing except that Jesus was truly flesh.

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Well, it's sorta hard to pick between Jesus being born in 6 B.C.E or earlier (Matthew's Gospel), or 6 C.E. (Luke's Gospel). So why don't you set us right and tell us which version is historically accurate.
4BC to 6AD.
How pathetic. Herod died in April, 4 B.C.E. But you have to allow for the two years that passed since the Magi visit. So that pushes the birth date to 6 B.C.E at a minimum.
Haahaahaa. I can always depend on you to show your ass.
I'm not the one showing their ass. First you show "4BC" which is not biblical, then you extend his birth to "6AD." That's a rather long "gestation period," don't you think?
Yes, you ARE the one showing his ass. The closest we can come to the birth year
of Jesus is from 4BC to 6AD. That's a spread of 10 years. You and your stupid
gestation time.
I was having fun with your wording. The way it was written was "4BC to 6AD" CAN be interpreted as meaning it took ten years for Jesus to be born. You didn't include the words "sometime between."
Run and hide. grey.
No need to. "4BC TO 6AD" CAN be interpreted to mean the full span of those years. You didn't add the words "sometime between." Now did you?
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As for 4 B.C.E., it can't be right. Herod died in April of 4 B.C.E. You have to allow two more years for the Magi visit. That pushes the date back to at least 6 B.C.E.
And guess what? ONE of those two dates is incorrect. Isn't it?
Yet Jesus was born sometimes in the time period "4BC up to 6AD".
Matthew, if we go by his text would have Jesus being born 6 B.C.E. or earlier. Luke, on the other hand, has Jesus being born in 6 C.E.! So, when are you going to admit that at least one of those dates is incorrect?

Let's make it easy for you: Since you have to allow 2 years from the Magi visit, your date of 4 B.C.E can't possibly be correct, now could it?

That's not
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all that difficult for you, is it?
I'm not the one positing a span of 10 years. That would be you doing that. So, when are you going to admit that one of the gospel birth years for Jesus is incorrect?

What, can't bring yourself to admit the truth, sleaze-ball? If you did, you'd at least be demonstrating some intellectual honesty and integrity. But, yeah, we all know that's just impossible for you. So you'll post some stupid reply that won't answer the question. That's because you're a fake Christian sleaze-ball.
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So for HOW many years did it take for Jesus to be born?
Why not simply admit that one of the dates is in error. But you can't even do that, can you? Too difficult for you to tell the truth, isn't it?
Which "one"? I said sometime between 4BC and 6AD. Can't read, can you?
I sure can. Point to where you typed "sometime between" in your reply. The way you typed your reply it reads from 4BC to 6AD.
Minimal intelligence covers that. I would expect your response from someone
like yap.
Look at what you typed again and tell me a person couldn't have fun with that and claim you've posited a ten-year birth for Jesus.
I'm sorry. I figured you had at least minimal education.
Gee, the original question asked WHICH Gospel birth-year date was correct, Matthew's or Luke's. And you can't seem to understand so simple a question, Mr. Maximum Education Man.

What's the matter, too difficult a question to answer due to your exceedingly high IQ or something? It's not due to you being too stupid to answer the question, is it?
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Of course, as God become flesh.
You *did* say "God," Right?
Yep, one God.
That being a God who became "flesh." Meaning that the God Jesus was God incarnate. And as God incarnate He couldn't POSSIBLY have "died" on the cross due to the fact that He was God. Do you not see how hopeless your stupid-ass position is?
Yes. God willed himself to become a new one cell conception in the womb of Mary
and to develop for the next nine months before birth. That way, the populace
saw nothing except that Jesus was truly flesh.
They saw a GOD because Jesus WAS God incarnate, you twat. But that aside, who cares what people "saw." He was GOD all the while He was on earth, you simpleton. Why is that so hard for you to understand? If Jesus was BORN GOD, His disciples SAW God.

Moreover, they saw Him walk on water, raise people from the dead, endowed His Apostles with the ability to raise the dead, multiply loaves and fishes. And you think His disciples only thought of Him as a mere Nazarene peasant?
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I was having fun with your wording. The way it was written was "4BC to 6AD" CAN be interpreted as meaning it took ten years for Jesus to be born. You didn't include the words "sometime between."
Run and hide. grey.
No need to. "4BC TO 6AD" CAN be interpreted to mean the full span of those years.
Not by an intelligent person.
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As for 4 B.C.E., it can't be right. Herod died in April of 4 B.C.E. You have to allow two more years for the Magi visit. That pushes the date back to at least 6 B.C.E.
And guess what? ONE of those two dates is incorrect. Isn't it?
Yet Jesus was born sometimes in the time period "4BC up to 6AD".
Matthew, if we go by his text would have Jesus being born 6 B.C.E. or earlier. Luke, on the other hand, has Jesus being born in 6 C.E.! So, when are you going to admit that at least one of those dates is incorrect?
Let's make it easy for you: Since you have to allow 2 years from the Magi visit, your date of 4 B.C.E can't possibly be correct, now could it?
Are you sure you're not imbibing in the "holiday cheer" a little early? Why do
you object to the magi starting out in 6BC for a 4BC birth? Or even starting
out in 4AD for a 6AD birth. Or even that Jesus could have been 2 years old
when they arrived. After all, Herod specified all males up to 2 years old to be
killed.
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That's not
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all that difficult for you, is it?
I'm not the one positing a span of 10 years. That would be you doing that. So, when are you going to admit that one of the gospel birth years for Jesus is incorrect?
Haahaahaa. I swear. Do you grok "range of"?
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So for HOW many years did it take for Jesus to be born?
Why not simply admit that one of the dates is in error. But you can't even do that, can you? Too difficult for you to tell the truth, isn't it?
Which "one"? I said sometime between 4BC and 6AD. Can't read, can you?
I sure can. Point to where you typed "sometime between" in your reply. The way you typed your reply it reads from 4BC to 6AD.
Minimal intelligence covers that. I would expect your response from someone
like yap.
Look at what you typed again and tell me a person couldn't have fun with that and claim you've posited a ten-year birth for Jesus.
I'm sorry. I figured you had at least minimal education.
Gee, the original question asked WHICH Gospel birth-year date was correct, Matthew's or Luke's. And you can't seem to understand so simple a question, Mr. Maximum Education Man.
Answer as I told you. Nobody knows for sure. It's anticipated that a likely
take ranges form 4BC to 6AD. To be in labor for 10 years is even weird for
you.
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What's the matter, too difficult a question to answer due to your exceedingly high IQ or something? It's not due to you being too stupid to answer the question, is it?
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Of course, as God become flesh.
You *did* say "God," Right?
Yep, one God.
That being a God who became "flesh." Meaning that the God Jesus was God incarnate. And as God incarnate He couldn't POSSIBLY have "died" on the cross due to the fact that He was God. Do you not see how hopeless your stupid-ass position is?
Yes. God willed himself to become a new one cell conception in the womb of Mary
and to develop for the next nine months before birth. That way, the populace
saw nothing except that Jesus was truly flesh.
They saw a GOD because Jesus WAS God incarnate, you twat. But that aside, who cares what people "saw." He was GOD all the while He was on earth, you simpleton. Why is that so hard for you to understand? If Jesus was BORN GOD, His disciples SAW God.
All flesh saw was Mary having a baby. The way we intelligent people see it, if
God could will himself to become flesh, he could "theoretically" will himself
out of the flesh at cross time. Your reasoning is very shallow right now, so
maybe you can grok this new suggestion.
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Moreover, they saw Him walk on water, raise people from the dead, endowed His Apostles with the ability to raise the dead, multiply loaves and fishes. And you think His disciples only thought of Him as a mere Nazarene peasant?
Walk on water? Maybe he was on shore and they close in. Raise the dead? He
didn't levitate them. He called them out.

Really, think spiritual. Your "physical only" makes people laugh at you.


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Haahaahaa. I swear. Do you grok "range of"?
Could Earl possibly grok "grok?"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stranger_in_a_Strange_Land

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Creators don't die on Crosses you silly nilly,
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Creators have kids hide their Tabernacles,
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For universal magnetic reversals (UMRs),
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.atheism/tNyq6-UZ7z8

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2018-12-05 00:21:11 UTC
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Creators don't die on Crosses you silly nilly,
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mars_Gold_Ark_Map.jpg
Creators have kids hide their Tabernacles,
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Earth_Gold_Ark_Map.jpg
For universal magnetic reversals (UMRs),
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.atheism/tNyq6-UZ7z8
Moses (GD=frequency^2)
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2018-12-05 01:03:20 UTC
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Creators don't die on Crosses you silly nilly,
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mars_Gold_Ark_Map.jpg
Creators have Kids hide their Tabernacles,
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Earth_Gold_Ark_Map.jpg
For universal magnetic reversals (UMRs),
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.atheism/tNyq6-UZ7z8
Moses (GD=frequency^2)
Oopsy Daisy Mo
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Yea like Billy, Billy, Billy, Billy (and Billy) the Kids.

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Hmmmm, seems I'm having a problem with that one.
Can any "Christian" explain how a being who's "God" can actually "die" and still be "God"?
And if the God Jesus didn't actually "die," doesn't that mean man's "sins" haven't really been forgiven?
You think fucking theism or believers can be reasoned?
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Hmmmm, seems I'm having a problem with that one.
Can any "Christian" explain how a being who's "God" can actually "die" and still be "God"?
And if the God Jesus didn't actually "die," doesn't that mean man's "sins" haven't really been forgiven?
You think fucking theism or believers can be reasoned?
Well, I know for sure that you pagans can't.

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Hmmmm, seems I'm having a problem with that one.
Can any "Christian" explain how a being who's "God" can actually "die" and still be "God"?
And if the God Jesus didn't actually "die," doesn't that mean man's "sins" haven't really been forgiven?
You think fucking theism or believers can be reasoned?
Well, I know for sure that you pagans can't.
Says the moron who have inherited paganism..........
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2018-12-05 04:10:13 UTC
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Hmmmm, seems I'm having a problem with that one.
Can any "Christian" explain how a being who's "God" can actually "die" and still be "God"?
And if the God Jesus didn't actually "die," doesn't that mean man's "sins" haven't really been forgiven?
It's religion. The Romans believed their emperor was a god, but all the emperors died. REligion is not always rational.
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Hmmmm, seems I'm having a problem with that one.
Can any "Christian" explain how a being who's "God" can actually "die" and still be "God"?
And if the God Jesus didn't actually "die," doesn't that mean man's "sins" haven't really been forgiven?
It's religion. The Romans believed their emperor was a god, but all the emperors died. REligion is not always rational.
If you admit religion is not rational, then it is useless especially when no theist can provide evidence for the existent of any pixie....
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Hmmmm, seems I'm having a problem with that one.
Can any "Christian" explain how a being who's "God" can actually
"die" and still be "God"?
Lots of examples in The Golden Bough.
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And if the God Jesus didn't actually "die," doesn't that mean man's
"sins" haven't really been forgiven?
It's religion. The Romans believed their emperor was a god, but a
ll the emperors died. REligion is not always rational.
According to Suetonius, he saw Caesar Augustus rise bodily to heaven
after he died.

Just like the fantasies about the Jesus character.
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If you admit religion is not rational, then it is useless especially
when no theist can provide evidence for the existent of any pixie....
...after they've wiped their unsolicited nonsense inour faces.
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Hmmmm, seems I'm having a problem with that one.
Can any "Christian" explain how a being who's "God" can actually
"die" and still be "God"?
Lots of examples in The Golden Bough.
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Post by Greywolf
And if the God Jesus didn't actually "die," doesn't that mean man's
"sins" haven't really been forgiven?
It's religion. The Romans believed their emperor was a god, but a
ll the emperors died. REligion is not always rational.
According to Suetonius, he saw Caesar Augustus rise bodily to heaven
after he died.
Just like the fantasies about the Jesus character.
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If you admit religion is not rational, then it is useless especially
when no theist can provide evidence for the existent of any pixie....
...after they've wiped their unsolicited nonsense inour faces.
Who solicits you?
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Hmmmm, seems I'm having a problem with that one.
Can any "Christian" explain how a being who's "God" can actually
"die" and still be "God"?
Lots of examples in The Golden Bough.
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Post by Greywolf
And if the God Jesus didn't actually "die," doesn't that mean man's
"sins" haven't really been forgiven?
It's religion. The Romans believed their emperor was a god, but a
ll the emperors died. REligion is not always rational.
According to Suetonius, he saw Caesar Augustus rise bodily to heaven
after he died.
Just like the fantasies about the Jesus character.
Post by Yap Honghor
If you admit religion is not rational, then it is useless especially
when no theist can provide evidence for the existent of any pixie....
...after they've wiped their unsolicited nonsense inour faces.
Who solicits you?
Then no theist should be appearing in our forum to defend their religion or their non-existent pixie, Mad Joe!!!!
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Hmmmm, seems I'm having a problem with that one.
Can any "Christian" explain how a being who's "God" can actually
"die" and still be "God"?
Lots of examples in The Golden Bough.
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Post by Greywolf
And if the God Jesus didn't actually "die," doesn't that mean man's
"sins" haven't really been forgiven?
It's religion. The Romans believed their emperor was a god, but a
ll the emperors died. REligion is not always rational.
According to Suetonius, he saw Caesar Augustus rise bodily to heaven
after he died.
Just like the fantasies about the Jesus character.
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If you admit religion is not rational, then it is useless especially
when no theist can provide evidence for the existent of any pixie....
...after they've wiped their unsolicited nonsense inour faces.
Who solicits you?
What a fucking moron.
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Then no theist should be appearing in our forum to defend their
religion or their non-existent pixie, Mad Joe!!!!
I wouldn't have thought anybody could be that stupid, but then it _is_
Mad Joe.
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2018-12-06 11:36:51 UTC
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Post by Greywolf
Hmmmm, seems I'm having a problem with that one.
Can any "Christian" explain how a being who's "God" can actually
"die" and still be "God"?
Lots of examples in The Golden Bough.
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Post by v***@gmail.com
Post by Greywolf
And if the God Jesus didn't actually "die," doesn't that mean man's
"sins" haven't really been forgiven?
It's religion. The Romans believed their emperor was a god, but a
ll the emperors died. REligion is not always rational.
According to Suetonius, he saw Caesar Augustus rise bodily to heaven
after he died.
Just like the fantasies about the Jesus character.
Post by Yap Honghor
If you admit religion is not rational, then it is useless especially
when no theist can provide evidence for the existent of any pixie....
...after they've wiped their unsolicited nonsense inour faces.
Who solicits you?
What a fucking moron.
I knew you wouldn't get it.
duke
2018-12-05 20:15:15 UTC
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Hmmmm, seems I'm having a problem with that one.
Can any "Christian" explain how a being who's "God" can actually "die" and still be "God"?
And if the God Jesus didn't actually "die," doesn't that mean man's "sins" haven't really been forgiven?
It's religion. The Romans believed their emperor was a god, but all the emperors died. REligion is not always rational.
If you admit religion is not rational, then it is useless especially when no theist can provide evidence for the existent of any pixie....
Do you see those pixies only at night or during the daylight also?

Be careful. I hear they have sharp teeth.

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2018-12-06 03:29:27 UTC
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Hmmmm, seems I'm having a problem with that one.
Can any "Christian" explain how a being who's "God" can actually "die" and still be "God"?
And if the God Jesus didn't actually "die," doesn't that mean man's "sins" haven't really been forgiven?
It's religion. The Romans believed their emperor was a god, but all the emperors died. REligion is not always rational.
If you admit religion is not rational, then it is useless especially when no theist can provide evidence for the existent of any pixie....
Do you see those pixies only at night or during the daylight also?
For this, you have to answer truthfully...though I know you can;t.
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Be careful. I hear they have sharp teeth.
They are worse then vampire which only sucks blood????
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2018-12-06 03:56:50 UTC
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Hmmmm, seems I'm having a problem with that one.
Can any "Christian" explain how a being who's "God" can actually "die" and still be "God"?
And if the God Jesus didn't actually "die," doesn't that mean man's "sins" haven't really been forgiven?
It's religion. The Romans believed their emperor was a god, but all the emperors died. REligion is not always rational.
If you admit religion is not rational, then it is useless especially when no theist can provide evidence for the existent of any pixie....
I said :"Not always rational."
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2018-12-06 08:49:30 UTC
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Hmmmm, seems I'm having a problem with that one.
Can any "Christian" explain how a being who's "God" can actually "die" and still be "God"?
And if the God Jesus didn't actually "die," doesn't that mean man's "sins" haven't really been forgiven?
It's religion. The Romans believed their emperor was a god, but all the emperors died. REligion is not always rational.
If you admit religion is not rational, then it is useless especially when no theist can provide evidence for the existent of any pixie....
I said :"Not always rational."
Religion has no moment of rationality!!!!!!!!!!!!
Look at all the pieces of stories in their scripture, tell us which one has a little bit of rational thought???????????
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2018-12-05 04:14:23 UTC
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Hmmmm, seems I'm having a problem with that one.
Can any "Christian" explain how a being who's "God" can actually "die" and still be "God"?
And if the God Jesus didn't actually "die," doesn't that mean man's "sins" haven't really been forgiven?
Let the Christians explain it.

https://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/53084/if-jesus-is-god-then-how-could-he-die
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2018-12-05 11:35:09 UTC
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Hmmmm, seems I'm having a problem with that one.
Can any "Christian" explain how a being who's "God" can actually "die" and still be "God"?
And if the God Jesus didn't actually "die," doesn't that mean man's "sins" haven't really been forgiven?
The best model would be to assume that Christ was an avatar. Like your character in a computer game. I believe this was a point of discussion in the early church. But they had a lot of trouble with it.
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2018-12-05 20:14:13 UTC
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Hmmmm, seems I'm having a problem with that one.
Can any "Christian" explain how a being who's "God" can actually "die" and still be "God"?
And if the God Jesus didn't actually "die," doesn't that mean man's "sins" haven't really been forgiven?
The best model would be to assume that Christ was an avatar. Like your character in a computer game. I believe this was a point of discussion in the early church. But they had a lot of trouble with it.
Nope. That's not it.

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2018-12-06 08:53:34 UTC
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Hmmmm, seems I'm having a problem with that one.
Can any "Christian" explain how a being who's "God" can actually "die" and still be "God"?
And if the God Jesus didn't actually "die," doesn't that mean man's "sins" haven't really been forgiven?
The best model would be to assume that Christ was an avatar. Like your character in a computer game. I believe this was a point of discussion in the early church. But they had a lot of trouble with it.
Nope. That's not it.
Sure, they decided against that story. Didn't convey the right moral lessons.
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2018-12-06 22:58:36 UTC
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Post by Greywolf
Hmmmm, seems I'm having a problem with that one.
Can any "Christian" explain how a being who's "God" can actually "die" and still be "God"?
And if the God Jesus didn't actually "die," doesn't that mean man's "sins" haven't really been forgiven?
The best model would be to assume that Christ was an avatar. Like your character in a computer game. I believe this was a point of discussion in the early church. But they had a lot of trouble with it.
Nope. That's not it.
Sure, they decided against that story. Didn't convey the right moral lessons.
Right, Christ is Lord over all life including avatars.

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2018-12-10 11:10:54 UTC
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Post by Greywolf
Hmmmm, seems I'm having a problem with that one.
Can any "Christian" explain how a being who's "God" can actually "die" and still be "God"?
And if the God Jesus didn't actually "die," doesn't that mean man's "sins" haven't really been forgiven?
The best model would be to assume that Christ was an avatar. Like your character in a computer game. I believe this was a point of discussion in the early church. But they had a lot of trouble with it.
Nope. That's not it.
Sure, they decided against that story. Didn't convey the right moral lessons.
Right, Christ is Lord over all life including avatars.
Zombie is your kind of lord, not for others, fat moron!!!!!!!!!!!!
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2018-12-10 22:30:36 UTC
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Post by Greywolf
Hmmmm, seems I'm having a problem with that one.
Can any "Christian" explain how a being who's "God" can actually "die" and still be "God"?
And if the God Jesus didn't actually "die," doesn't that mean man's "sins" haven't really been forgiven?
The best model would be to assume that Christ was an avatar. Like your character in a computer game. I believe this was a point of discussion in the early church. But they had a lot of trouble with it.
Nope. That's not it.
Sure, they decided against that story. Didn't convey the right moral lessons.
Right, Christ is Lord over all life including avatars.
Zombie is your kind of lord, not for others, fat moron!!!!!!!!!!!!
You really are that stupid, aren't you. Did mama san turn your brain off when
you were born?

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2018-12-10 23:15:04 UTC
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Post by Greywolf
Hmmmm, seems I'm having a problem with that one.
Can any "Christian" explain how a being who's "God" can actually "die" and still be "God"?
And if the God Jesus didn't actually "die," doesn't that mean man's "sins" haven't really been forgiven?
The best model would be to assume that Christ was an avatar. Like your character in a computer game. I believe this was a point of discussion in the early church. But they had a lot of trouble with it.
Nope. That's not it.
Sure, they decided against that story. Didn't convey the right moral lessons.
Right, Christ is Lord over all life including avatars.
Zombie is your kind of lord, not for others, fat moron!!!!!!!!!!!!
You really are that stupid, aren't you. Did mama san turn your brain off when
you were born?
...Earl, you should turn your brain off for a few days...when you
reboot, maybe that tangled rat's nest of Christian mumbo jumbo
be purged !
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2018-12-11 13:36:35 UTC
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You really are that stupid, aren't you. Did mama san turn your brain off when
you were born?
...Earl, you should turn your brain off for a few days...when you
reboot, maybe that tangled rat's nest of Christian mumbo jumbo
be purged !
Even without a reboot, I'm way more intelligent than you.

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2018-12-11 17:52:41 UTC
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You really are that stupid, aren't you. Did mama san turn your brain off when
you were born?
...Earl, you should turn your brain off for a few days...when you
reboot, maybe that tangled rat's nest of Christian mumbo jumbo
be purged !
Even without a reboot, I'm way more intelligent than you.
...Earl, now you're really getting delusional. Pretty soon you're
gonna fall all the way into that dark, bottomless rabbit hole
and even I won't be able to pull you out !
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2018-12-12 02:07:34 UTC
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You really are that stupid, aren't you. Did mama san turn your brain off
when
you were born?
...Earl, you should turn your brain off for a few days...when you
reboot, maybe that tangled rat's nest of Christian mumbo jumbo
be purged !
Even without a reboot, I'm way more intelligent than you.
...Earl, now you're really getting delusional. Pretty soon you're
gonna fall all the way into that dark, bottomless rabbit hole
and even I won't be able to pull you out !
Sorry, John, but if Duke falls down the rabbit hole I am filling the hole up.
I have a standing order for a load of cement the day that happens. After all,
if Duke can fall into such a hole, imagine just how many dozens of kids could
also fall in. Think of the Children, John, think of the children.
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2018-12-12 05:06:29 UTC
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You really are that stupid, aren't you. Did mama san turn your brain off
when
you were born?
...Earl, you should turn your brain off for a few days...when you
reboot, maybe that tangled rat's nest of Christian mumbo jumbo
be purged !
Even without a reboot, I'm way more intelligent than you.
...Earl, now you're really getting delusional. Pretty soon you're
gonna fall all the way into that dark, bottomless rabbit hole
and even I won't be able to pull you out !
Sorry, John, but if Duke falls down the rabbit hole I am filling the hole up.
I have a standing order for a load of cement the day that happens. After all,
if Duke can fall into such a hole, imagine just how many dozens of kids could
also fall in. Think of the Children, John, think of the children.
...don't forget the rebar !
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2018-12-12 07:31:07 UTC
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You really are that stupid, aren't you. Did mama san turn your brain off
when you were born?
...Earl, you should turn your brain off for a few days...when you
reboot, maybe that tangled rat's nest of Christian mumbo jumbo
be purged !
Even without a reboot, I'm way more intelligent than you.
...Earl, now you're really getting delusional. Pretty soon you're
gonna fall all the way into that dark, bottomless rabbit hole
and even I won't be able to pull you out !
Sorry, John, but if Duke falls down the rabbit hole I am filling the hole up.
I have a standing order for a load of cement the day that happens. After
all, if Duke can fall into such a hole, imagine just how many dozens of kids
could also fall in. Think of the Children, John, think of the children.
...don't forget the rebar !
Got it on the list. Thanks.
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2018-12-12 13:18:10 UTC
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You really are that stupid, aren't you. Did mama san turn your brain off
when you were born?
...Earl, you should turn your brain off for a few days...when you
reboot, maybe that tangled rat's nest of Christian mumbo jumbo
be purged !
Even without a reboot, I'm way more intelligent than you.
...Earl, now you're really getting delusional. Pretty soon you're
gonna fall all the way into that dark, bottomless rabbit hole
and even I won't be able to pull you out !
Sorry, John, but if Duke falls down the rabbit hole I am filling the hole up.
I have a standing order for a load of cement the day that happens. After
all, if Duke can fall into such a hole, imagine just how many dozens of kids
could also fall in. Think of the Children, John, think of the children.
...don't forget the rebar !
Got it on the list. Thanks.
Did you rob the jail?

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2018-12-12 13:17:31 UTC
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You really are that stupid, aren't you. Did mama san turn your brain off
when
you were born?
...Earl, you should turn your brain off for a few days...when you
reboot, maybe that tangled rat's nest of Christian mumbo jumbo
be purged !
Even without a reboot, I'm way more intelligent than you.
...Earl, now you're really getting delusional. Pretty soon you're
gonna fall all the way into that dark, bottomless rabbit hole
and even I won't be able to pull you out !
Sorry, John, but if Duke falls down the rabbit hole I am filling the hole up.
I have a standing order for a load of cement the day that happens. After all,
if Duke can fall into such a hole, imagine just how many dozens of kids could
also fall in. Think of the Children, John, think of the children.
He is a "children".

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2018-12-12 16:41:54 UTC
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You really are that stupid, aren't you. Did mama san turn your brain off
when
you were born?
...Earl, you should turn your brain off for a few days...when you
reboot, maybe that tangled rat's nest of Christian mumbo jumbo
be purged !
Even without a reboot, I'm way more intelligent than you.
...Earl, now you're really getting delusional. Pretty soon you're
gonna fall all the way into that dark, bottomless rabbit hole
and even I won't be able to pull you out !
Sorry, John, but if Duke falls down the /r/a/b/b/i/t/ rhino hole
FTFY. :)
I am filling the hole up.
I have a standing order for a load of cement the day that happens. After all,
if Duke can fall into such a hole, imagine just how many dozens of kids could
also fall in. Think of the Children, John, think of the children.
School buses falling in....?

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2018-12-12 13:16:50 UTC
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You really are that stupid, aren't you. Did mama san turn your brain off when
you were born?
...Earl, you should turn your brain off for a few days...when you
reboot, maybe that tangled rat's nest of Christian mumbo jumbo
be purged !
Even without a reboot, I'm way more intelligent than you.
...Earl, now you're really getting delusional. Pretty soon you're
gonna fall all the way into that dark, bottomless rabbit hole
and even I won't be able to pull you out !
I'll turn to God. Satan's already got you.

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2018-12-12 16:46:49 UTC
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You really are that stupid, aren't you. Did mama san turn your brain off when
you were born?
...Earl, you should turn your brain off for a few days...when you
reboot, maybe that tangled rat's nest of Christian mumbo jumbo
be purged !
Even without a reboot, I'm way more intelligent than you.
...Earl, now you're really getting delusional. Pretty soon you're
gonna fall all the way into that dark, bottomless rabbit hole
and even I won't be able to pull you out !
I'll turn to God. Satan's already got you.
...then I'm in luck ! ...Satan is the only sane entity in your
menagerie of spooks.
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Hmmmm, seems I'm having a problem with that one.
Can any "Christian" explain how a being who's "God" can actually "die" and still be "God"?
And if the God Jesus didn't actually "die," doesn't that mean man's "sins" haven't really been forgiven?
The best model would be to assume that Christ was an avatar. Like your character in a computer game. I believe this was a point of discussion in the early church. But they had a lot of trouble with it.
Nope. That's not it.
Sure, they decided against that story. Didn't convey the right moral lessons.
Right, Christ is Lord over all life including avatars.
Zombie is your kind of lord, not for others, fat moron!!!!!!!!!!!!
You really are that stupid, aren't you. Did mama san turn your brain off when you were born?
I made a statement which you have no answer.....therefore you resort to nonsense???????????

Talking about mama san, they are the ones who gave birth to fools like you..
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2018-12-11 13:37:42 UTC
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You really are that stupid, aren't you. Did mama san turn your brain off when you were born?
I made a statement which you have no answer.....therefore you resort to nonsense???????????
Talking about mama san, they are the ones who gave birth to fools like you..
You poor sucker. It's your mama san that dropped you on your head.

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2018-12-12 07:49:24 UTC
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You really are that stupid, aren't you. Did mama san turn your brain off when you were born?
I made a statement which you have no answer.....therefore you resort to nonsense???????????
Talking about mama san, they are the ones who gave birth to fools like you..
You poor sucker. It's your mama san that dropped you on your head.
No, in fact all the mama sans have dropped their poor fools on their heads during the first few years....otherwise, we won't see so many fools in the US.
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You really are that stupid, aren't you. Did mama san turn your brain off when you were born?
I made a statement which you have no answer.....therefore you resort to nonsense???????????
Talking about mama san, they are the ones who gave birth to fools like you..
You poor sucker. It's your mama san that dropped you on your head.
No, in fact all the mama sans have dropped their poor fools on their heads during the first few years.
Now I know. It's clear you had a problem, but I didn't know why.

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You really are that stupid, aren't you. Did mama san turn your brain off when you were born?
I made a statement which you have no answer.....therefore you resort to nonsense???????????
Talking about mama san, they are the ones who gave birth to fools like you..
You poor sucker. It's your mama san that dropped you on your head.
No, in fact all the mama sans have dropped their poor fools on their heads during the first few years.
Now I know. It's clear you had a problem, but I didn't know why.
Of course you ain't in a position as to know why you and your believers are fools...because all your brains are damaged for good!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hmmmm, seems I'm having a problem with that one.
Can any "Christian" explain how a being who's "God" can actually "die" and still be "God"?
And if the God Jesus didn't actually "die," doesn't that mean man's "sins" haven't really been forgiven?
The best model would be to assume that Christ was an avatar. Like your character in a computer game. I believe this was a point of discussion in the early church. But they had a lot of trouble with it.
Nope. That's not it.
Sure, they decided against that story. Didn't convey the right moral lessons.
Right, Christ is Lord over all life including avatars.
So what happened to God? Did he retire and pass on the family business?
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2018-12-12 13:19:43 UTC
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Hmmmm, seems I'm having a problem with that one.
Can any "Christian" explain how a being who's "God" can actually "die" and still be "God"?
And if the God Jesus didn't actually "die," doesn't that mean man's "sins" haven't really been forgiven?
The best model would be to assume that Christ was an avatar. Like your character in a computer game. I believe this was a point of discussion in the early church. But they had a lot of trouble with it.
Nope. That's not it.
Sure, they decided against that story. Didn't convey the right moral lessons.
Right, Christ is Lord over all life including avatars.
So what happened to God? Did he retire and pass on the family business?
No, that was the plan.

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2018-12-12 16:04:05 UTC
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Hmmmm, seems I'm having a problem with that one.
Can any "Christian" explain how a being who's "God" can actually "die" and still be "God"?
And if the God Jesus didn't actually "die," doesn't that mean man's "sins" haven't really been forgiven?
The best model would be to assume that Christ was an avatar. Like your character in a computer game. I believe this was a point of discussion in the early church. But they had a lot of trouble with it.
Nope. That's not it.
Sure, they decided against that story. Didn't convey the right moral lessons.
Right, Christ is Lord over all life including avatars.
So what happened to God? Did he retire and pass on the family business?
No, that was the plan.
Didn't suggest an unplanned retirement.
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2018-12-11 03:55:13 UTC
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Hmmmm, seems I'm having a problem with that one.
Can any "Christian" explain how a being who's "God" can actually "die" and still be "God"?
And if the God Jesus didn't actually "die," doesn't that mean man's "sins" haven't really been forgiven?
The best model would be to assume that Christ was an avatar. Like your character in a computer game. I believe this was a point of discussion in the early church. But they had a lot of trouble with it.
Nope. That's not it.
Sure, they decided against that story. Didn't convey the right moral lessons.
Avatars are a Hindu mainstay.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avatar

The Catholic church, as it came to be,
decided that Josh being an avatar was
heretical.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avatar#Avatar_versus_incarnation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Docetism

Some Hindus think Josh was an avatar of Vishnu.

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2018-12-05 20:12:26 UTC
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Hmmmm, seems I'm having a problem with that one.
Can any "Christian" explain how a being who's "God" can actually "die" and still be "God"?
Yep. He was fully man.
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And if the God Jesus didn't actually "die," doesn't that mean man's "sins" haven't really been forgiven?
Nope.

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2018-12-06 00:47:40 UTC
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Hmmmm, seems I'm having a problem with that one.
Can any "Christian" explain how a being who's "God" can actually "die" and still be "God"?
Yep. He was fully man.
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And if the God Jesus didn't actually "die," doesn't that mean man's "sins" haven't really been forgiven?
Nope.
...well if that's the case, then that goofy sacrifice routine was
quite pointless. Your Jesus story lacks coherence..looks like you
Christian jokers are in dire need of a complete rewrite. This time
around, make sure your crack pot Jewish cleric stays dead !
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2018-12-06 22:59:43 UTC
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Hmmmm, seems I'm having a problem with that one.
Can any "Christian" explain how a being who's "God" can actually "die" and still be "God"?
Yep. He was fully man.
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And if the God Jesus didn't actually "die," doesn't that mean man's "sins" haven't really been forgiven?
Nope.
...well if that's the case, then that goofy sacrifice routine was
quite pointless.
Well put for the ignorant of all. We'll just let you approach the judgment seat
with that thought in mind.

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2018-12-06 23:54:05 UTC
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We'll just let you approach the judgment seat
with that thought in mind.
_All_ you've got are threats and more empty threats.
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There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
Atheist: anyone who says "I don't buy the claim 'a god exists'".
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is _THE_ foundation of Christianity.
Sycophant: a compulsive ass-kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.
Christian - a person afraid of a hiding apparently imaginary god.
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2018-12-09 20:48:25 UTC
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We'll just let you approach the judgment seat
with that thought in mind.
_All_ you've got are threats and more empty threats.
I'm not the one threatening.

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2018-12-07 00:36:22 UTC
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Hmmmm, seems I'm having a problem with that one.
Can any "Christian" explain how a being who's "God" can actually "die" and still be "God"?
Yep. He was fully man.
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And if the God Jesus didn't actually "die," doesn't that mean man's "sins" haven't really been forgiven?
Nope.
...well if that's the case, then that goofy sacrifice routine was
quite pointless.
Well put for the ignorant of all. We'll just let you approach the judgment seat
with that thought in mind.
...when I get done explaining the idiosyncrasy, incoherency and inane
aspects of the salvation middleman, I'll be the one sitting in the
judgment seat !
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2018-12-09 20:49:14 UTC
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Hmmmm, seems I'm having a problem with that one.
Can any "Christian" explain how a being who's "God" can actually "die" and still be "God"?
Yep. He was fully man.
Post by Greywolf
And if the God Jesus didn't actually "die," doesn't that mean man's "sins" haven't really been forgiven?
Nope.
...well if that's the case, then that goofy sacrifice routine was
quite pointless.
Well put for the ignorant of all. We'll just let you approach the judgment seat
with that thought in mind.
...when I get done explaining the idiosyncrasy, incoherency and inane
aspects of the salvation middleman, I'll be the one sitting in the
judgment seat !
You'll be sitting under the toilet seat.

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2018-12-09 21:08:36 UTC
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You'll be sitting under the toilet seat.
Won't you be crowded out then?💩
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2018-12-10 22:30:59 UTC
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You'll be sitting under the toilet seat.
Won't you be crowded out then??
I won't be there.

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2018-12-10 22:44:01 UTC
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You'll be sitting under the toilet seat.
Won't you be crowded out then??
I won't be there.
...I don't know about that Earl...you'd better pack your toilet brush
just in case. There's a high probability that you're gonna need it !
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2018-12-11 13:38:34 UTC
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You'll be sitting under the toilet seat.
Won't you be crowded out then??
I won't be there.
...I don't know about that Earl...you'd better pack your toilet brush
just in case. There's a high probability that you're gonna need it !
Do you want to use it?

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2018-12-11 17:55:35 UTC
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You'll be sitting under the toilet seat.
Won't you be crowded out then??
I won't be there.
...I don't know about that Earl...you'd better pack your toilet brush
just in case. There's a high probability that you're gonna need it !
Do you want to use it?
..no thanks Earl. I won't need it. You see, "God" made me the flusher
and you the flushee. This is gonna be fun !
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You'll be sitting under the toilet seat.
Won't you be crowded out then??
I won't be there.
...I don't know about that Earl...you'd better pack your toilet brush
just in case. There's a high probability that you're gonna need it !
Do you want to use it?
..no thanks Earl. I won't need it. You see, "God" made me the flusher
and you the flushee. This is gonna be fun !
I'm friends with God, you aren't. You need satan's help.

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2018-12-12 16:55:22 UTC
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You'll be sitting under the toilet seat.
Won't you be crowded out then??
I won't be there.
...I don't know about that Earl...you'd better pack your toilet brush
just in case. There's a high probability that you're gonna need it !
Do you want to use it?
..no thanks Earl. I won't need it. You see, "God" made me the flusher
and you the flushee. This is gonna be fun !
I'm friends with God, you aren't.
...your god doesn't want or need anymore "friends"...he's already got
swarms of self-righteous, Christians hounding his ass in hopes of
absconding with a chunk his paradise.
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You need satan's help.
...your problem Earl is that you've got it backwards. Satan is the
good guy. "God" is the evil psycho. Good luck with that !

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2018-12-11 18:27:48 UTC
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You'll be sitting under the toilet seat.
Won't you be crowded out then??
I won't be there.
...I don't know about that Earl...you'd better pack your toilet brush
just in case. There's a high probability that you're gonna need it !
Do you want to use it?
Go easy on Locke. He's functionally illiterate.
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You'll be sitting under the toilet seat.
Won't you be crowded out then??
I won't be there.
...I don't know about that Earl...you'd better pack your toilet brush
just in case. There's a high probability that you're gonna need it !
Do you want to use it?
Go easy on Locke. He's functionally illiterate.
Oh, one is Jewish while the other catholic...does it make you two the same type of fools, ya?
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You'll be sitting under the toilet seat.
Won't you be crowded out then??
I won't be there.
...I don't know about that Earl...you'd better pack your toilet brush
just in case. There's a high probability that you're gonna need it !
Do you want to use it?
Go easy on Locke. He's functionally illiterate.
I see he's got toilet on the brain.

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You'll be sitting under the toilet seat.
Won't you be crowded out then??
I won't be /t/h/e/r/e/./
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Hmmmm, seems I'm having a problem with that one.
Can any "Christian" explain how a being who's "God" can actually "die" and still be "God"?
Yep. He was fully man.
I just finished replying to a post of yours where you state Jesus was God. And I quote:

"Here's a surprise for you. That' question is specifically answered in the scriptures 1. Jesus Is God It means that he is God." <Re: Jesus is The Son OF God, Not God Himself>

So explain how "God" died on the cross?
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And if the God Jesus didn't actually "die," doesn't that mean man's "sins" haven't really been forgiven?
Nope.
Oh, I see. When God the Father sent the God Jesus to "die" on the cross for the redemption of mankind's sins. God forgot to include the word "pretend." So all Jesus had to do is "pretend" to die. Right?
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Hmmmm, seems I'm having a problem with that one.
Can any "Christian" explain how a being who's "God" can actually "die" and still be "God"?
Yep. He was fully man.
Yep, Jesus was God come in the flesh.
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"Here's a surprise for you. That' question is specifically answered in the scriptures 1. Jesus Is God It means that he is God." <Re: Jesus is The Son OF God, Not God Himself>
So explain how "God" died on the cross?
The flesh did.
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And if the God Jesus didn't actually "die," doesn't that mean man's "sins" haven't really been forgiven?
Nope.
Oh, I see. When God the Father sent the God Jesus to "die" on the cross for the redemption of mankind's sins. God forgot to include the word "pretend." So all Jesus had to do is "pretend" to die. Right?
Jesus in the flesh didn't pretend. He truly died.

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2018-12-10 01:49:54 UTC
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Hmmmm, seems I'm having a problem with that one.
Can any "Christian" explain how a being who's "God" can actually "die" and still be "God"?
Yep. He was fully man.
Yep, Jesus was God come in the flesh.
So, did God "die" on the cross?
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"Here's a surprise for you. That' question is specifically answered in the scriptures 1. Jesus Is God It means that he is God." <Re: Jesus is The Son OF God, Not God Himself>
So explain how "God" died on the cross?
The flesh did.
But Jesus wasn't totally human. He was a hybrid creature composed of man AND deity. Since He WAS deity, He couldn't have actually "died." The deity in Him would preclude Him from dying. You just want Jesus to be "human" when it suits your purpose, but God when it suits you. Can't have it both ways. He was a God-Man.

Where do you think the God in Jesus disappeared to while Jesus was in the grave? Leave His body and float up to Heaven or something?
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And if the God Jesus didn't actually "die," doesn't that mean man's "sins" haven't really been forgiven?
Nope.
Oh, I see. When God the Father sent the God Jesus to "die" on the cross for the redemption of mankind's sins. God forgot to include the word "pretend." So all Jesus had to do is "pretend" to die. Right?
Jesus in the flesh didn't pretend. He truly died.
Look up top. You've stated Jesus was "God" in the flesh. So explain what "killed" God.
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Hmmmm, seems I'm having a problem with that one.
Can any "Christian" explain how a being who's "God" can actually "die" and still be "God"?
Yep. He was fully man.
Yep, Jesus was God come in the flesh.
So, did God "die" on the cross?
Nope, flesh did.
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"Here's a surprise for you. That' question is specifically answered in the scriptures 1. Jesus Is God It means that he is God." <Re: Jesus is The Son OF God, Not God Himself>
So explain how "God" died on the cross?
The flesh did.
But Jesus wasn't totally human. He was a hybrid creature composed of man AND deity. Since He WAS deity, He couldn't have actually "died." The deity in Him would preclude Him from dying. You just want Jesus to be "human" when it suits your purpose, but God when it suits you. Can't have it both ways. He was a God-Man.
God willed himself to be come flesh. Flesh died on the cross. God never dies.
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Where do you think the God in Jesus disappeared to while Jesus was in the grave? Leave His body and float up to Heaven or something?
God is in all places and all times forever.
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And if the God Jesus didn't actually "die," doesn't that mean man's "sins" haven't really been forgiven?
Nope.
Oh, I see. When God the Father sent the God Jesus to "die" on the cross for the redemption of mankind's sins. God forgot to include the word "pretend." So all Jesus had to do is "pretend" to die. Right?
Jesus in the flesh didn't pretend. He truly died.
Look up top. You've stated Jesus was "God" in the flesh. So explain what "killed" God.
God never dies.

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Hmmmm, seems I'm having a problem with that one.
Can any "Christian" explain how a being who's "God" can actually "die" and still be "God"?
Yep. He was fully man.
Yep, Jesus was God come in the flesh.
So, did God "die" on the cross?
Nope, flesh did.
Where did "God" disappear to when the God Jesus "died"?
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"Here's a surprise for you. That' question is specifically answered in the scriptures 1. Jesus Is God It means that he is God." <Re: Jesus is The Son OF God, Not God Himself>
So explain how "God" died on the cross?
The flesh did.
But Jesus wasn't only flesh, He was "God" too. So explain how the flesh could die while it's God? Remember, "God made flesh." He was God all the while He was flesh. Jesus wasn't "possessed" by God. He WAS God, you imbecile.

You're just caught and can't get out of your predicament. So you'll just keep babbling nonsense while everyone else in this forum following this thread sees just how trapped you are. Psssst! You're making an utter buffoon of yourself.
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But Jesus wasn't totally human. He was a hybrid creature composed of man AND deity. Since He WAS deity, He couldn't have actually "died." The deity in Him would preclude Him from dying. You just want Jesus to be "human" when it suits your purpose, but God when it suits you. Can't have it both ways. He was a God-Man.
God willed himself to be come flesh. Flesh died on the cross. God never dies.
He didn't "will" Himself to be two beings. The God Jesus was "fathered" by God the Father who got Mary supernaturally "pregnant." Jesus didn't have an earthly father. He was "sired" by God the Father--making Jesus God. So one more time, since Jesus was God, explain how Jesus could have "died while being God.

Did the God within Jesus "die"? Did the God in Jesus escape his hybrid body somehow? Did the God Jesus float up to Heaven while the rest of Jesus was in the tomb. Or was God alive and well within the body of Jesus during His stay in the grave?
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Where do you think the God in Jesus disappeared to while Jesus was in the grave? Leave His body and float up to Heaven or something?
God is in all places and all times forever.
So God WAS alive within the body of Jesus of Nazareth while in the tomb. That means the God, Jesus of Nazareth, never actually "died."

Face it, there's no "out" for you. Just another Bible lie.

Hey, have you figured out how three days AFTER Friday turns out to be Sunday yet? Mark 8:31 has you tied up in knots, doesn't it?
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And if the God Jesus didn't actually "die," doesn't that mean man's "sins" haven't really been forgiven?
Nope.
Oh, I see. When God the Father sent the God Jesus to "die" on the cross for the redemption of mankind's sins. God forgot to include the word "pretend." So all Jesus had to do is "pretend" to die. Right?
Jesus in the flesh didn't pretend. He truly died.
Look up top. You've stated Jesus was "God" in the flesh. So explain what "killed" God.
God never dies.
That's right. Thanks for verifying for us that the God Jesus never "died" on the cross.

Glad we've finally cleared THAT one up. Now, address Mark 8:31 and Mark 8:31 only.
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Yep, Jesus was God come in the flesh.
So, did God "die" on the cross?
Nope, flesh did.
Where did "God" disappear to when the God Jesus "died"?
I guess to where ever he came from when he first became flesh.
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"Here's a surprise for you. That' question is specifically answered in the scriptures 1. Jesus Is God It means that he is God." <Re: Jesus is The Son OF God, Not God Himself>
So explain how "God" died on the cross?
The flesh did.
But Jesus wasn't only flesh, He was "God" too. So explain how the flesh could die while it's God? Remember, "God made flesh." He was God all the while He was flesh. Jesus wasn't "possessed" by God. He WAS God, you imbecile.
See above.
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You're just caught and can't get out of your predicament.
Hecky darn. You're wrong.
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Where do you think the God in Jesus disappeared to while Jesus was in the grave? Leave His body and float up to Heaven or something?
God is in all places and all times forever.
So God WAS alive within the body of Jesus of Nazareth while in the tomb. That means the God, Jesus of Nazareth, never actually "died."
Nope. Jesus was fully human and fully divine.
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Face it, there's no "out" for you. Just another Bible lie.
Hey, have you figured out how three days AFTER Friday turns out to be Sunday yet? Mark 8:31 has you tied up in knots, doesn't it?
Nothing about "after".
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And if the God Jesus didn't actually "die," doesn't that mean man's "sins" haven't really been forgiven?
Nope.
Oh, I see. When God the Father sent the God Jesus to "die" on the cross for the redemption of mankind's sins. God forgot to include the word "pretend." So all Jesus had to do is "pretend" to die. Right?
Jesus in the flesh didn't pretend. He truly died.
Look up top. You've stated Jesus was "God" in the flesh. So explain what "killed" God.
God never dies.
That's right. Thanks for verifying for us that the God Jesus never "died" on the cross.
The flesh did, not the divine.
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Glad we've finally cleared THAT one up. Now, address Mark 8:31 and Mark 8:31 only.
See Luke and the historical record. Heeheehee.

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Yep, Jesus was God come in the flesh.
So, did God "die" on the cross?
Nope, flesh did.
Where did "God" disappear to when the God Jesus "died"?
I guess to where ever he came from when he first became flesh.
Ahhhh! Got you, you pathologically-lying So-of-a-Bitch. A God did NOT "possess" Jesus, you terd. He was BORN God. As such, He couldn't just up and fly away without taking "human" Jesus along with Him. He wasn't TWO beings. He was ONE being.

Face it, there's no "out" for you.
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"Here's a surprise for you. That' question is specifically answered in the scriptures 1. Jesus Is God It means that he is God." <Re: Jesus is The Son OF God, Not God Himself>
So explain how "God" died on the cross?
The flesh did.
But Jesus wasn't only flesh, He was "God" too. So explain how the flesh could die while it's God? Remember, "God made flesh." He was God all the while He was flesh. Jesus wasn't "possessed" by God. He WAS God, you imbecile.
See above.
No, you made that up. Where in the Gospels does it say that God left Jesus' body and flew up to Heaven while Jesus was in the tomb?
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You're just caught and can't get out of your predicament.
Hecky darn. You're wrong.
Show where Jesus became "non=God" while in the tomb, smart-ass.
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Where do you think the God in Jesus disappeared to while Jesus was in the grave? Leave His body and float up to Heaven or something?
God is in all places and all times forever.
So God WAS alive within the body of Jesus of Nazareth while in the tomb. That means the God, Jesus of Nazareth, never actually "died."
Nope. Jesus was fully human and fully divine.
Since He was BOTH in one body, how could that body "die" while it was God?

And just a reminder: If ANY part of Jesus of Nazareth was God, He couldn't POSSIBLY be "fully human" due to being God.
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Face it, there's no "out" for you. Just another Bible lie.
Hey, have you figured out how three days AFTER Friday turns out to be Sunday yet? Mark 8:31 has you tied up in knots, doesn't it?
Nothing about "after".
"He then began to teach them that the Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders, the chief priests and the teachers of the law, and that he must be KILLED and ***AFTER*** three days rise again." (Mark 8:31-NIV)

You have no shame, you pathologically-lying piece of shit. And worse, you KNOW you're lying when you lie. And you have the NERVE to call yourself a "Christian"!!!
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And if the God Jesus didn't actually "die," doesn't that mean man's "sins" haven't really been forgiven?
Nope.
Oh, I see. When God the Father sent the God Jesus to "die" on the cross for the redemption of mankind's sins. God forgot to include the word "pretend." So all Jesus had to do is "pretend" to die. Right?
Jesus in the flesh didn't pretend. He truly died.
Look up top. You've stated Jesus was "God" in the flesh. So explain what "killed" God.
God never dies.
That's right. Thanks for verifying for us that the God Jesus never "died" on the cross.
The flesh did, not the divine.
If Jesus WAS GOD on the cross, how is it that He could actually "die."

That "flesh died' business won't fly due to the fact Jesus wasn't ONLY flesh, He was God incarnate, you bird-brain.

Damn, are you ever retarded.
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Glad we've finally cleared THAT one up. Now, address Mark 8:31 and Mark 8:31 only.
See Luke and the historical record. Heeheehee.
You lied about Mark 8:31 up top. As far as Luke 9:22 goes, Mark 8:31 contradicts that verse as well, doesn't it?
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Yep, Jesus was God come in the flesh.
So, did God "die" on the cross?
Nope, flesh did.
Where did "God" disappear to when the God Jesus "died"?
I guess to where ever he came from when he first became flesh.
Ahhhh! Got you, you pathologically-lying So-of-a-Bitch. A God did NOT "possess" Jesus, you terd.
Does this mean you're just now coming to understand that?? Didn't you
understand before that God willed himself to become flesh in the womb of Mary so
as to present himself to other flesh as flesh himself?
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He was BORN God.
Oh, noooooo. As God, he existed forever more. He willed himself as a new
conception is flesh so as to be seen as flesh to flesh.
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As such, He couldn't just up and fly away without taking "human" Jesus along
with Him. He wasn't TWO beings. He was ONE being.
One God, 3 persons.
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Face it, there's no "out" for you.
Back off the booze, grey. You're about out of brain cells.
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"Here's a surprise for you. That' question is specifically answered in the scriptures 1. Jesus Is God It means that he is God." <Re: Jesus is The Son OF God, Not God Himself>
So explain how "God" died on the cross?
The flesh did.
But Jesus wasn't only flesh, He was "God" too. So explain how the flesh could die while it's God? Remember, "God made flesh." He was God all the while He was flesh. Jesus wasn't "possessed" by God. He WAS God, you imbecile.
See above.
No, you made that up. Where in the Gospels does it say that God left Jesus' body and flew up to Heaven while Jesus was in the tomb?
It doesn't. Don't you understand anything. The flesh died on the cross, not
the divinity which couldn't die.
<sigh>
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You're just caught and can't get out of your predicament.
Hecky darn. You're wrong.
Show where Jesus became "non=God" while in the tomb, smart-ass.
The flesh nature died, not the divine nature.
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Where do you think the God in Jesus disappeared to while Jesus was in the grave? Leave His body and float up to Heaven or something?
God is in all places and all times forever.
So God WAS alive within the body of Jesus of Nazareth while in the tomb. That means the God, Jesus of Nazareth, never actually "died."
Nope. Jesus was fully human and fully divine.
Since He was BOTH in one body, how could that body "die" while it was God?
<sigh>
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And just a reminder: If ANY part of Jesus of Nazareth was God, He couldn't POSSIBLY be "fully human" due to being God.
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Face it, there's no "out" for you. Just another Bible lie.
Hey, have you figured out how three days AFTER Friday turns out to be Sunday yet? Mark 8:31 has you tied up in knots, doesn't it?
Nothing about "after".
"He then began to teach them that the Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders, the chief priests and the teachers of the law, and that he must be KILLED and ***AFTER*** three days rise again." (Mark 8:31-NIV)
You have no shame, you pathologically-lying piece of shit. And worse, you KNOW you're lying when you lie. And you have the NERVE to call yourself a "Christian"!!!
But nothing abut the "day length" being 24 hours. The key is the sabbath, and
nothing else.
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And if the God Jesus didn't actually "die," doesn't that mean man's "sins" haven't really been forgiven?
Nope.
Oh, I see. When God the Father sent the God Jesus to "die" on the cross for the redemption of mankind's sins. God forgot to include the word "pretend." So all Jesus had to do is "pretend" to die. Right?
Jesus in the flesh didn't pretend. He truly died.
Look up top. You've stated Jesus was "God" in the flesh. So explain what "killed" God.
God never dies.
That's right. Thanks for verifying for us that the God Jesus never "died" on the cross.
The flesh did, not the divine.
If Jesus WAS GOD on the cross, how is it that He could actually "die."
Only the flesh died.
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That "flesh died' business won't fly due to the fact Jesus wasn't ONLY flesh, He was God incarnate, you bird-brain.
Damn, are you ever retarded.
You should be careful calling others "retarded" the way you thing.
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Glad we've finally cleared THAT one up. Now, address Mark 8:31 and Mark 8:31 only.
See Luke and the historical record. Heeheehee.
You lied about Mark 8:31 up top. As far as Luke 9:22 goes, Mark 8:31 contradicts that verse as well, doesn't it?
Or, properly put, Luke 23,24 corrects the others and clearly says SUNDAY.


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Hmmmm, seems I'm having a problem with that one.
Can any "Christian" explain how a being who's "God" can actually "die" and still be "God"?
And if the God Jesus didn't actually "die," doesn't that mean man's "sins" haven't really been forgiven?
And how come people still use floating up into the sky to represent the
assent to heaven? It made sense when ignorant iron-age people thought that
the sky was a dome and heaven was on the other side. Instead, the sky just
eventually becomes the cold vacuum of space.

Theists be crazy.

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Hmmmm, seems I'm having a problem with that one.
Can any "Christian" explain how a being who's "God" can actually "die" and still be "God"?
And if the God Jesus didn't actually "die," doesn't that mean man's "sins" haven't really been forgiven?
And how come people still use floating up into the sky to represent the
assent to heaven? It made sense when ignorant iron-age people thought that
the sky was a dome and heaven was on the other side. Instead, the sky just
eventually becomes the cold vacuum of space.
Theists be crazy.
Those pre-history folks sure had a good imagination.

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