Post by Cloud Hobbit Post by Bob
You don't like it that I'm here because I expose your charade
of pretending to know something that you know nothing about.
You like being a double-minded two-faced hypocrite operating
with two sets of rules. One set when you talk about "trolls",
and the other set when you're talking to "trolls". To you, a
"troll" is somebody you cannot control. Somebody who reveals
some of your secrets that you would like to keep secret.
You do what liars do. That's why you're a liar.
I suggest you get used to this. I'm not going anywhere.
Why should I? I know your weaknesses.
Nah, that's not it. People don't like you because you're a pompous, lying dickhead.
Should we poll the people here and get confirmation?
If there was an election tomorrow, you'd lose.
These are the definitions of "troll."
1. v.,n. [From the Usenet group alt.folklore.urban] To utter a posting
on Usenet designed to attract predictable responses or flames; or, the
post itself. Derives from the phrase "trolling for newbies" which in turn
comes from mainstream "trolling", a style of fishing in which one trails
bait through a likely spot hoping for a bite. The well-constructed troll is
a post that induces lots of newbies and flamers to make themselves look
even more clueless than they already do, while subtly conveying to the
more savvy and experienced that it is in fact a deliberate troll. If you
don't fall for the joke, you get to be in on it. See also YHBT.
2. n. An individual who chronically trolls in sense 1; regularly
posts specious arguments, flames or personal attacks to a newsgroup,
discussion list, or in email for no other purpose than to annoy someone
or disrupt a discussion. Trolls are recognizable by the fact that they have
no real interest in learning about the topic at hand - they simply want to
utter flame bait. Like the ugly creatures they are named after, they exhibit
no redeeming characteristics, and as such, they are recognized as a lower
form of life on the net, as in, "Oh, ignore him, he's just a troll."
3. n. [Berkeley] Computer lab monitor. A popular campus job for CS
students. Duties include helping newbies and ensuring that lab policies
are followed. Probably so-called because it involves lurking in dark
Some people claim that the troll (sense 1) is properly a narrower
category than flame bait, that a troll is categorized by containing
some assertion that is wrong but not overtly controversial. See also
The use of 'troll' in any of these senses is a live metaphor that
readily produces elaborations and combining forms. For example, one
not infrequently sees the warning "Do not feed the troll" as part of a
followup to troll postings.
Sense 2, especially "regularly posts specious arguments, flames or
personal attacks to a newsgroup, ...... for no other purpose than
to annoy someone or disrupt a discussion"...is most applicable to Duncan.
He's been shown proselytizing is off-charter behavior, but he persists,
even though the regular participants in the group are not his expressed
target audience, some small, mythical sub-set of those who lurk but do
not post are.
He's vile, and just about the worst recruiter for any movement truly
seeking to be popular I could imagine. He supposedly doesn't care
if his movement has many members, just the "chosen few." Still,
"every knee must bend," so there's that confusion.