Post by ravn Post by Michael Christ
Well, I don't read the bible for one thing. I don't need to.
You have a need to quote Roman 5:8. Something's amiss here.
Of course it is because Mr Objective Reality and Wonderfulman says so. :-).
I quote the bible for the benefit and edification of the recipient, not
for my own edification.
Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten
Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have
Joh 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world;
but that the world through him might be saved.
Joh 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that
believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the
name of the only begotten Son of God.
Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
yet sinners, Christ died for us.
"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."