What is God made of?

[Jahnu]

I wonder if you ever bother to discuss anything but simply throw
insults as fast as you can?

Discuss? With you? hahaha :D Why would I waste my time? I discuss with
thinking people. That excludes you. All you can do is repeat mindless
atheist slogans.

A question a thoughtful person might ask is, what is God made of? The
Vedic version teaches us that God is made of eternity, knowledge, and
bliss. Note how ingenious this definition of God is. As usual the
Vedic version reigns supreme.

Brahma, god of creation, says:

Krishna who is known as Govinda is the Supreme Godhead. He has an
eternal blissful spiritual body. He is the origin of all. He has no
other origin and He is the prime cause of all causes.

=> Brahma-samhita, 5.1

It also makes perfect sense that eternity, knowledge and bliss is the
substance of God. We can test it on ourselves. As souls, ie. atomic
fragments of God, we consist of the same spiritual substance as God,
and this fact should be somehow measurable. It's like, by examining
one drop of the ocean one gets an understanding of the entire ocean.
The very fact that all living entities instinctively gravitate towards
these three factors, indicates that this is our natural state. All
living entities seek eternity, knowledge, and bliss. We all have the
distinct experience that these three are the prime moving factors of
our core existence.

We are all pleasure seeking. We all try to learn something. And we all
try to preserve our being. Some people say - I don't seek eternity. It
must become boring in eternity. But we all seek eternity in the sense
that we try to preserve our being. The survival instinct together with
the mating instinct are the strongest instincts in all living
entities.

Besides, boredom is a factor of material existence, As souls on the
spiritual plane we will never get bored playing with Krishna. Who
would not want to be eternally young and blissful? Does anyone want
his or her happiness to end, because it's just so boring being happy?
The only reason one would want his existence to end is if it's
miserable.

In reality we are happy all the time. Only in our delusion of bodily
existence is happiness constantly interrupted by suffering. Who wants
bliss to end? Who sits in a real happy frame of mind, and thinks -
gee, I wish this happiness would end... nobody does that. Thus it is a
direct observable fact that all living entities gravitate towards
eternity, knowledge and bliss, exactly as predicted in the Vedic
version.


By connecting with our real identities as souls we become re-situated
in God's substance of eternity, knowledge and bliss. By connecting
with our real selves we connect with eternity, knowledge and bliss.The
method to do so is to invoke the name of God and petition Him. This is
done in this age by chanting the Hare Krishna Mantra.

hare krsna hare krsna krsna krsna hare hare
hare rama hare rama rama rama hare hare

"This mantra, consisting of 16 words and 32 syllables, is the only
means against evil in this age. After searching through all the Vedic
literature, one cannot find a method of religion more sublime for this
age than the chanting of Hare Krsna."

--- Kali-santarana Upanishad



https://www.youtube.com/user/jahnudvip?feature=watch

https://picasaweb.google.com/113672947796865733014/Jahnu

http://www.touchtalent.com//artist/118705/jahnu-das

[Street]

Post by Jahnu

I wonder if you ever bother to discuss anything but simply throw
insults as fast as you can?

Discuss? With you? hahaha :D Why would I waste my time? I discuss with
thinking people. That excludes you. All you can do is repeat mindless
atheist slogans.
A question a thoughtful person might ask is, what is God made of?

Bullshit. 100%.

[Cloud Hobbit]

Post by Street

Post by Jahnu

I wonder if you ever bother to discuss anything but simply throw
insults as fast as you can?

Discuss? With you? hahaha :D Why would I waste my time? I discuss with
thinking people. That excludes you. All you can do is repeat mindless
atheist slogans.
A question a thoughtful person might ask is, what is God made of?

Bullshit. 100%.

I would include ignorance, fear, and force.

Isn't it handy how nobody can see God?
Probably just a coincidence that the invisible and the non-existent look so much alike.

[Kurt Nicklas]

Post by Cloud Hobbit

Post by Street

Post by Jahnu

I wonder if you ever bother to discuss anything but simply throw
insults as fast as you can?

Discuss? With you? hahaha :D Why would I waste my time? I discuss with
thinking people. That excludes you. All you can do is repeat mindless
atheist slogans.
A question a thoughtful person might ask is, what is God made of?

Bullshit. 100%.

I would include ignorance, fear, and force.
Isn't it handy how nobody can see God?
Probably just a coincidence that the invisible and the non-existent look so much alike.

Really?

So you "lack belief" in, say, electrons as well?

<snickerz>

[G***@rock.com]

What is God made of?

Rock

[Jahnu]

Post by Street
Bullshit. 100%.

This text was written for thinking people. Your comment is about as
relevant as the sound of autumn leaves rattling in the wind.

"Simply by chanting one holy name of Hari, a sinful man can counteract
the reactions to more sins than he can commit." (Brihad-vishnu Purana)



https://www.youtube.com/user/jahnudvip?feature=watch

https://picasaweb.google.com/113672947796865733014/Jahnu

http://www.touchtalent.com//artist/118705/jahnu-das

http://youtu.be/B46rjU_q_cM

[JWS]

Post by Jahnu

Post by Street
Bullshit. 100%.

This text was written for thinking people. Your comment is about as
relevant as the sound of autumn leaves rattling in the wind.
"Simply by chanting one holy name of Hari, a sinful man can counteract
the reactions to more sins than he can commit." (Brihad-vishnu Purana)
https://www.youtube.com/user/jahnudvip?feature=watch
https://picasaweb.google.com/113672947796865733014/Jahnu
http://www.touchtalent.com//artist/118705/jahnu-das
http://youtu.be/B46rjU_q_cM

I thought he was spot on. Bullshit says it all.

[Jahnu]

I thought he was spot on. Bullshit says it all about me.

A genuine religion is supported by four pillars - compassion,
honesty, cleanliness and austerity. These four pillars of religion are
destroyed by the the four primary sins - meat-eating, intoxication,
ilicit sex and gambling. Meat-eating or killing other living entities
erodes destroys compassion, illicit sex destroys cleanliness,
intoxication destroys austerity and gambling destroys honesty.

Note, how these four sinful activities are glorified and propagated
non-stop in the modern culture by advertisement, literature, movies,
art and so on. The general population is indoctrinated into thinking
that the four sinful activities are totally normal and even coveted,
noble activities. When people are actively and consistently encouraged
to commit sinful activities on a global basis, what this shows is that
the world is run by ungodly, demonic powers.

In the Vedic Version religion is symbolized by the bull and the four
legs of the bull are the four pillars of religion. It is noteworthy in
this connection that the old Cimber tribes of North-jutland worshiped
the bull. Remember Conan the Cimmarian? He is from Cimber-land in
North Denmark. The Church calls them heathens and idolators, but they
are closer to the original Vedic religion than, for instance, the
Danish Folk-church. That the ancient folk of North Jutland worshiped
the Bull furthermore shows how the Vedic Version has inspired religion
all over the world. In downtown Aalborg there is a huge statue of a
bull. This bull is religion personified, although I doubt the people
of Alborg are aware of this :)



https://www.youtube.com/user/jahnudvip?feature=watch

https://picasaweb.google.com/113672947796865733014/Jahnu

http://www.touchtalent.com//artist/118705/jahnu-das

http://youtu.be/B46rjU_q_cM

[Melzzzzz]

Post by Jahnu

I thought he was spot on. Bullshit says it all about me.

A genuine religion is supported by four pillars - compassion,
honesty, cleanliness and austerity. These four pillars of religion are
destroyed by the the four primary sins - meat-eating, intoxication,
ilicit sex and gambling. Meat-eating or killing other living entities
erodes destroys compassion, illicit sex destroys cleanliness,
intoxication destroys austerity and gambling destroys honesty.

There is no religion wihtout killing other living entities. Those who do
not eat animals kill other people no problem...

[Jahnu]

Post by Melzzzzz
There is no religion wihtout killing other living entities. Those who do
not eat animals kill other people no problem...

There is no living without killing other living entities, moron. To
eat, you have to kill. Only subhumans like you think there is no
difference in killing animals and plants.

In that case, since you anyway subsist on the carcasses of murdered
beings, why don't you eat your deformed kids? They are anyway a burden
to the planet. Do some good for once in your miserable life.

As long as there are slaughter-houses, there will be battlefields. A
vegetarian diet is the acid test of humanitarian.

-- Leo Tolstoy



https://www.youtube.com/user/jahnudvip?feature=watch

https://picasaweb.google.com/113672947796865733014/Jahnu

http://www.touchtalent.com//artist/118705/jahnu-das

http://youtu.be/B46rjU_q_cM

[Melzzzzz]

Post by Jahnu

Post by Melzzzzz
There is no religion wihtout killing other living entities. Those who do
not eat animals kill other people no problem...

There is no living without killing other living entities, moron. To
eat, you have to kill. Only subhumans like you think there is no
difference in killing animals and plants.

Scumbags like you are ok with killing humans...

[Attila]

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Post by Jahnu

Post by Melzzzzz
There is no religion wihtout killing other living entities. Those who do
not eat animals kill other people no problem...

There is no living without killing other living entities, moron. To
eat, you have to kill. Only subhumans like you think there is no
difference in killing animals and plants.

There isn't. Haven't you heard celery scream when you bite into it?

Post by Jahnu
In that case, since you anyway subsist on the carcasses of murdered
beings, why don't you eat your deformed kids? They are anyway a burden
to the planet. Do some good for once in your miserable life.

There are good medical reasons why cannibalism is a bad idea.
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

I am not conservative so much as a rabid anti-liberal.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

[Christopher A. Lee]

Post by Attila
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Post by Jahnu

Post by Melzzzzz
There is no religion wihtout killing other living entities. Those who do
not eat animals kill other people no problem...

There is no living without killing other living entities, moron. To
eat, you have to kill. Only subhumans like you think there is no
difference in killing animals and plants.

There isn't. Haven't you heard celery scream when you bite into it?

If Krishna didn't want us to eat animals, why did he make them out of
meat?

[Don Martin]

On Sun, 15 Jul 2018 06:42:29 -0500, Christopher A. Lee

Post by Christopher A. Lee

Post by Attila
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Post by Jahnu

Post by Melzzzzz
There is no religion wihtout killing other living entities. Those who do
not eat animals kill other people no problem...

There is no living without killing other living entities, moron. To
eat, you have to kill. Only subhumans like you think there is no
difference in killing animals and plants.

There isn't. Haven't you heard celery scream when you bite into it?

If Krishna didn't want us to eat animals, why did he make them out of
meat?

Thank you, Michael Flanders!

[Attila]

On Sun, 15 Jul 2018 06:42:29 -0500, Christopher A. Lee

Post by Christopher A. Lee

Post by Attila
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Post by Jahnu

Post by Melzzzzz
There is no religion wihtout killing other living entities. Those who do
not eat animals kill other people no problem...

There is no living without killing other living entities, moron. To
eat, you have to kill. Only subhumans like you think there is no
difference in killing animals and plants.

There isn't. Haven't you heard celery scream when you bite into it?

If Krishna didn't want us to eat animals, why did he make them out of
meat?

Why do we have teeth and a digestive tract designed for meat?

The idiot should learn what omnivorous means.
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

I am not conservative so much as a rabid anti-liberal.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

[Jahnu]

Post by Attila

Post by Jahnu
There is no living without killing other living entities, moron. To
eat, you have to kill. Only subhumans like you think there is no
difference in killing animals and plants.

There isn't. Haven't you heard celery scream when you bite into it?

Listen to this clown. --but, but there is no difference between
cutting the throat of a pig and plugging a tomato.

Gee, is it any wonder the world is going to hell with non-reflective
fools lilke that making up the majority?

HOW TO WIN AN ARGUMENT WITH A MEAT EATER

The New York Times, Tuesday, June 20, 1989



The Hunger Argument

Number of people worldwide who will die of starvation this year: 60
million.

Number of people who could be adequately fed with the grain saved if
Americans reduced their intake of meat by 10 perc.: 60 million

Human beings in America: 243 million

Number of people who could be fed with grain and soybeans now eaten by
U.S. livestock: 1.3 billion

Percentage of corn grown in the U.S. eaten by people: 20

Percentage of corn grown in the U.S. eaten by livestock: 80

Percentage of oats grown in the U.S. eaten by livestock: 95

Percentage of protein waste by cycling grain through livestock: 99

How frequently a child starves to death: every 2 seconds

Pounds of potatoes that can be grown on an acre: 20.OOO

Pounds of beef produced on an acre: 165

Percentage of U.S. farmland devoted to beef production: 56

Pounds of grain and soybeans needed to produce a pound of beef: 16



The Environmental Argument

Cause of global warming: greenhouse effect

Primary cause of greenhouse effect: carbon dioxide emissions from
fossil fuels.

Fossil fuels needed to produce a meat-centered diet vs. a meat-free
diet: 50 times more

Percentage of U.S. topsoil lost to date: 75

Percentage of U.S. topsoil loss directly related to livestock raising:
85

Number of acres of U.S. forest cleared for cropland to produce
meat-centered diet: 260 million

Amount of meat U.S. imports annually from Costa Rica, El Salvador,
Guatemala, Honduras and Panama: 200 million pounds

Average per capita meat consumption in Costa Rica, El Salvador,
Guatemala, Honduras and Panama: less than eaten by average U.S.
housecat.

Area of tropical rainforest consumed in every 1/4 pound hamburger: 55
sq.ft.

Current rate of species extinction due to destruction of tropical
rainforests for meat grazing and other uses: 1.000 per year



The Cancer Argument

Increased risk of breast cancer for women who eat meat 4 times a week
vs. less than once a week: 4 times

For women who eat eggs daily vs. less than once a week: 3 times

Increased risk of fatal ovarian cancer for women who eat eggs 3 or
more times a week vs. less than once a week: 3 times

Increased risk of fatal prostate cancer for men who eat meat daily vs.
sparingly or not at all: 3.6 times



The Natural Resources Argument

Use of more than half of all water used for all purposes in the U.S.:
livestock portion.

Amount of water used in production of the average steer: sufficient to
float a destroyer.

Gallons to produce a pound of wheat: 25

Gallons to produce a pound of meat: 2.500

Cost of common hamburger if water used by meat industry was not
subsidized by the U.S. taxpayer: 35 dollars a pound

Current cost of pound of protein from beefsteak, if water was no
longer subsidized: 89 dollars

Years the world's known oil reserves would last if every human ate a
meat-centered diet: 13

Years they would last if human beings no longer ate meat: 260

Barrels of oil imported into U.S. daily: 6.8 million

Percentage of fossil fuel returned as food energy by most efficient
factory farming of meat: 34.5

Percentage returned from least efficient plant food: 32.8

Percentage of raw materials consumed by U.S. to produce present
meat-centered diet: 33



The Cholesterol Argument

Number of U.S. medical schools: 125

Number requiring a course in nutrition: 30

Nutrition training received by average U.S. physician during four
years in medical school: 25 hours

Most common cause of death in U.S.: heart attack

How frequently a heart attack kills in U.S.: every 45 seconds

Average U.S. man's risk of death from heart attack: 50 perc.

Risk for average U.S. man who avoids the meat-centered diet: 15 perc.

Meat industry claims you should not be concerned about your blood
cholesterol if it is: normal

Your risk of dying of a disease caused by clogged arteries if your
blood cholesterol is 'normal': over 50 perc.



The Antibiotic Argument

Percentage of U.S. antibiotics fed to livestock: 55

Percentage of staphylococci infections resistant to penicillin in
1960: 13

Percentage resistant in 1988: 91

Response of European Economic Community to routine feeding of
antibiotics to livestock: ban

Response of U.S. meat and pharmaceutical industries to routine feeding
of antibiotics to livestock: full and complete support


The Pesticide Argument

Percentage of pesticide residues in the U.S. diet supplied by grains:
1

Percentage of pesticide residues in the U.S. diet supplied by fruits:
4

Percentage of pesticide residues in the U.S. diet suppl. by dairy
products: 23

Percentage of pesticide residues in the U.S. diet supplied by meat: 55

Pesticide contamination of breast milk from meat-eating mothers vs.
non meat-eating: 35 times higher

What USDA tells us: meat is inspected

Percentage of slaughtered animals inspected for residues of toxin
chemicals including dioxin and DDT: less than 0.00004



The Ethical Argument

Number of animals killed for meat per hour in U.S.: 500.000

Occupation with highest turnover rate in U.S.: slaughterhouse worker

Occupation with highest rate of on-the-job injury in U.S:
slaughterhouse worker

Cost to render animal unconscious with captive bolt pistol before
slaughter.: 1 cent

Reason given by meat industry for non using that pistol: too expensive
The Survival Argument

Athlete to win Ironman Triathlon more than twice: Dave Scott (6 time
winner) Food choices of Dave Scott: Vegetarian

Largest meat eater than ever lived: Tyrannosaurus Rex

Last sighting of Tyrannosaurus Rex: 100.000.000 B.C.


Famous pop stars - vegetarians:
-------------------------------
Candice Bergen, David Bowie, Paul Mc Cartney, Darryl Hannah, Janet
Jackson, k.d.lang, Sting

'I am a great eater of beef, and I believe that does harm to my wit.'
--William Shakespeare "Twelfth Night," Act I, Scene 3








https://www.youtube.com/user/jahnudvip?feature=watch

https://picasaweb.google.com/113672947796865733014/Jahnu

http://www.touchtalent.com//artist/118705/jahnu-das

http://youtu.be/B46rjU_q_cM

[Attila]

On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 12:34:38 +0530, Jahnu <***@gmail.com> in
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Post by Jahnu

Post by Attila

Post by Jahnu
There is no living without killing other living entities, moron. To
eat, you have to kill. Only subhumans like you think there is no
difference in killing animals and plants.

There isn't. Haven't you heard celery scream when you bite into it?

Listen to this clown. --but, but there is no difference between
cutting the throat of a pig and plugging a tomato.
Gee, is it any wonder the world is going to hell with non-reflective
fools lilke that making up the majority?
HOW TO WIN AN ARGUMENT WITH A MEAT EATER

True or not I will never give up my hamburger, and I will not discuss
a nice thick steak.

Meat is food. Vegetables are what food eats.
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

I am not conservative so much as a rabid anti-liberal.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

[JWS]

On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 18:28:21 -0700 (PDT), JWS

I thought he was spot on. Bullshit says it all about me.

A genuine religion is supported by four pillars - compassion,
honesty, cleanliness and austerity. These four pillars of religion are
destroyed by the the four primary sins - meat-eating, intoxication,
ilicit sex and gambling. Meat-eating or killing other living entities
erodes destroys compassion, illicit sex destroys cleanliness,
intoxication destroys austerity and gambling destroys honesty.
Note, how these four sinful activities are glorified and propagated
non-stop in the modern culture by advertisement, literature, movies,
art and so on. The general population is indoctrinated into thinking
that the four sinful activities are totally normal and even coveted,
noble activities. When people are actively and consistently encouraged
to commit sinful activities on a global basis, what this shows is that
the world is run by ungodly, demonic powers.
In the Vedic Version religion is symbolized by the bull and the four
legs of the bull are the four pillars of religion. It is noteworthy in
this connection that the old Cimber tribes of North-jutland worshiped
the bull. Remember Conan the Cimmarian? He is from Cimber-land in
North Denmark. The Church calls them heathens and idolators, but they
are closer to the original Vedic religion than, for instance, the
Danish Folk-church. That the ancient folk of North Jutland worshiped
the Bull furthermore shows how the Vedic Version has inspired religion
all over the world. In downtown Aalborg there is a huge statue of a
bull. This bull is religion personified, although I doubt the people
of Alborg are aware of this :)
https://www.youtube.com/user/jahnudvip?feature=watch
https://picasaweb.google.com/113672947796865733014/Jahnu
http://www.touchtalent.com//artist/118705/jahnu-das
http://youtu.be/B46rjU_q_cM

Thanks for proving my point.

[Y***@yahoo.com]

Read the "Superbook of Superfaith" (hardcover):

Vol 1. Vedas, author Krishna
Vol 2. Old Testament, author Moses
Vol 3. Tao Te Ching, author Laozi
Vol 4. Tripitaka, author Buddha
Vol 5. New Testament, author Jesus
Vol 6. Koran, author Muhammad
Vol 7. Mormon, author Joseph Smith

A good book. Enjoy.

YHWH Allah
(LORD God)

[Attila]

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Post by Y***@yahoo.com
Vol 1. Vedas, author Krishna
Vol 2. Old Testament, author Moses
Vol 3. Tao Te Ching, author Laozi
Vol 4. Tripitaka, author Buddha
Vol 5. New Testament, author Jesus
Vol 6. Koran, author Muhammad
Vol 7. Mormon, author Joseph Smith
A good book. Enjoy.
YHWH Allah
(LORD God)

Does it include supporting evidence to prove these aren't just lies or
delusions?
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

I am not conservative so much as a rabid anti-liberal.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

[Christopher A. Lee]

Post by Attila
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Post by Y***@yahoo.com
Vol 1. Vedas, author Krishna
Vol 2. Old Testament, author Moses
Vol 3. Tao Te Ching, author Laozi
Vol 4. Tripitaka, author Buddha
Vol 5. New Testament, author Jesus
Vol 6. Koran, author Muhammad
Vol 7. Mormon, author Joseph Smith
A good book. Enjoy.
YHWH Allah
(LORD God)

Does it include supporting evidence to prove these aren't just lies or
delusions?

And why should we give a shit about nonsense from somebody else's
religion which the imbecile knows we don't believe in the first place,
yet he posts it anyway?

[Attila]

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Post by Attila
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Post by Y***@yahoo.com
Vol 1. Vedas, author Krishna
Vol 2. Old Testament, author Moses
Vol 3. Tao Te Ching, author Laozi
Vol 4. Tripitaka, author Buddha
Vol 5. New Testament, author Jesus
Vol 6. Koran, author Muhammad
Vol 7. Mormon, author Joseph Smith
A good book. Enjoy.
YHWH Allah
(LORD God)

Does it include supporting evidence to prove these aren't just lies or
delusions?

And why should we give a shit about nonsense from somebody else's
religion which the imbecile knows we don't believe in the first place,
yet he posts it anyway?

It seems many of these gods demand their followers must cram their
beliefs down the throats of others no matter what anyone else wants.
Remember, at one time rather that push their superstitions on others
they simply killed them and took all of their property.

That's how the RCC became so wealthy.
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

I am not conservative so much as a rabid anti-liberal.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

[aaa]

Post by Attila
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Post by Christopher A. Lee

Post by Attila
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Post by Y***@yahoo.com
Vol 1. Vedas, author Krishna
Vol 2. Old Testament, author Moses
Vol 3. Tao Te Ching, author Laozi
Vol 4. Tripitaka, author Buddha
Vol 5. New Testament, author Jesus
Vol 6. Koran, author Muhammad
Vol 7. Mormon, author Joseph Smith
A good book. Enjoy.
YHWH Allah
(LORD God)

Does it include supporting evidence to prove these aren't just lies or
delusions?

And why should we give a shit about nonsense from somebody else's
religion which the imbecile knows we don't believe in the first place,
yet he posts it anyway?

It seems many of these gods demand their followers must cram their
beliefs down the throats of others no matter what anyone else wants.
Remember, at one time rather that push their superstitions on others
they simply killed them and took all of their property.
That's how the RCC became so wealthy.

It's never about any of that. Here in usenet, we only debate for the
truth. If an atheist is too prejudiced to allow the truth to reign
supreme, perhaps he isn't a real atheist after all.

[Cloud Hobbit]

Post by aaa
It's never about any of that. Here in usenet, we only debate for the

truth. If an atheist is too prejudiced to allow the truth to reign
supreme, perhaps he isn't a real atheist after all.
____________________

The problem is that your truth is only true for you and your truth has nothing to do with reality.

From not telling the truth about what the bible says to lying about the second law of thermodynamics, to cells that pray, you are as full of shit as a Xmas goose.

You're a troll and a liar as well as possibly a brain damaged idiot or a Poe pretending to be.

According to you you're never wrong, while nobody in the real world agrees with you because you're insane.

Your refusal to provide evidence for your bullshit (not that anyone expected you to) and accusing everyone who disagrees with you as being "spiritually blind," you haven't said anything true about anything.

[aaa]

Post by aaa

Post by aaa
It's never about any of that. Here in usenet, we only debate for the

truth. If an atheist is too prejudiced to allow the truth to reign
supreme, perhaps he isn't a real atheist after all.
____________________
The problem is that your truth is only true for you and your truth
has nothing to do with reality.

I think I have made it clear about debating for the truth.

Post by aaa
From not telling the truth about what the bible says to lying about
the second law of thermodynamics, to cells that pray, you are as full
of shit as a Xmas goose.

There is nothing I can do if you blindly deny everything.

Post by aaa
You're a troll and a liar as well as possibly a brain damaged idiot
or a Poe pretending to be.
According to you you're never wrong, while nobody in the real world
agrees with you because you're insane.

That's not true. I make mistakes all the time, but God and the Bible
will never be wrong.

Post by aaa
Your refusal to provide evidence for your bullshit (not that anyone
expected you to) and accusing everyone who disagrees with you as
being "spiritually blind," you haven't said anything true about
anything.

If you can't recognize the spiritual evidence of God in my signature,
you can't blame me for calling you a spiritual blind, and you can't
blame me for not showing you the evidence of God either.

[Attila]

Post by aaa

Post by aaa

Post by aaa
It's never about any of that. Here in usenet, we only debate for the

truth. If an atheist is too prejudiced to allow the truth to reign
supreme, perhaps he isn't a real atheist after all.
____________________
The problem is that your truth is only true for you and your truth
has nothing to do with reality.

I think I have made it clear about debating for the truth.

Post by aaa
From not telling the truth about what the bible says to lying about
the second law of thermodynamics, to cells that pray, you are as full
of shit as a Xmas goose.

There is nothing I can do if you blindly deny everything.

Post by aaa
You're a troll and a liar as well as possibly a brain damaged idiot
or a Poe pretending to be.
According to you you're never wrong, while nobody in the real world
agrees with you because you're insane.

That's not true. I make mistakes all the time, but God and the Bible
will never be wrong.

There is no evidence to support any god ever doing or saying anything
and your bible likewise has no supporting evidence. Both are simply
unsupported myths.

Post by aaa

Post by aaa
Your refusal to provide evidence for your bullshit (not that anyone
expected you to) and accusing everyone who disagrees with you as
being "spiritually blind," you haven't said anything true about
anything.

If you can't recognize the spiritual evidence of God in my signature,
you can't blame me for calling you a spiritual blind, and you can't
blame me for not showing you the evidence of God either.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

I am not conservative so much as a rabid anti-liberal.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

[aaa]

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by aaa

Post by aaa
It's never about any of that. Here in usenet, we only debate for the

truth. If an atheist is too prejudiced to allow the truth to reign
supreme, perhaps he isn't a real atheist after all.
____________________
The problem is that your truth is only true for you and your truth
has nothing to do with reality.

I think I have made it clear about debating for the truth.

Post by aaa
From not telling the truth about what the bible says to lying about
the second law of thermodynamics, to cells that pray, you are as full
of shit as a Xmas goose.

There is nothing I can do if you blindly deny everything.

Post by aaa
You're a troll and a liar as well as possibly a brain damaged idiot
or a Poe pretending to be.
According to you you're never wrong, while nobody in the real world
agrees with you because you're insane.

That's not true. I make mistakes all the time, but God and the Bible
will never be wrong.

There is no evidence to support any god ever doing or saying anything
and your bible likewise has no supporting evidence. Both are simply
unsupported myths.

The Bible is already the Word of God as the evidence that is open to
all. All anyone has to do is to study the Bible to understand the truth
of God. There is no mystery and no trick. It is God's will to teach us
the truth with the teaching of the Bible. Myth is only the result of
human misunderstanding. It has nothing to do with the Bible or God.

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by aaa
Your refusal to provide evidence for your bullshit (not that anyone
expected you to) and accusing everyone who disagrees with you as
being "spiritually blind," you haven't said anything true about
anything.

If you can't recognize the spiritual evidence of God in my signature,
you can't blame me for calling you a spiritual blind, and you can't
blame me for not showing you the evidence of God either.

[Attila]

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by aaa

Post by aaa
It's never about any of that. Here in usenet, we only debate for the

truth. If an atheist is too prejudiced to allow the truth to reign
supreme, perhaps he isn't a real atheist after all.
____________________
The problem is that your truth is only true for you and your truth
has nothing to do with reality.

I think I have made it clear about debating for the truth.

Post by aaa
From not telling the truth about what the bible says to lying about
the second law of thermodynamics, to cells that pray, you are as full
of shit as a Xmas goose.

There is nothing I can do if you blindly deny everything.

Post by aaa
You're a troll and a liar as well as possibly a brain damaged idiot
or a Poe pretending to be.
According to you you're never wrong, while nobody in the real world
agrees with you because you're insane.

That's not true. I make mistakes all the time, but God and the Bible
will never be wrong.

There is no evidence to support any god ever doing or saying anything
and your bible likewise has no supporting evidence. Both are simply
unsupported myths.

The Bible is already the Word of God as the evidence that is open to
all. All anyone has to do is to study the Bible to understand the truth
of God. There is no mystery and no trick. It is God's will to teach us
the truth with the teaching of the Bible. Myth is only the result of
human misunderstanding. It has nothing to do with the Bible or God.

I have seen no evidence to support the validity of your book of myths.

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by aaa
Your refusal to provide evidence for your bullshit (not that anyone
expected you to) and accusing everyone who disagrees with you as
being "spiritually blind," you haven't said anything true about
anything.

If you can't recognize the spiritual evidence of God in my signature,
you can't blame me for calling you a spiritual blind, and you can't
blame me for not showing you the evidence of God either.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

I am not conservative so much as a rabid anti-liberal.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

[aaa]

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by aaa

Post by aaa
It's never about any of that. Here in usenet, we only debate for the

truth. If an atheist is too prejudiced to allow the truth to reign
supreme, perhaps he isn't a real atheist after all.
____________________
The problem is that your truth is only true for you and your truth
has nothing to do with reality.

I think I have made it clear about debating for the truth.

Post by aaa
From not telling the truth about what the bible says to lying about
the second law of thermodynamics, to cells that pray, you are as full
of shit as a Xmas goose.

There is nothing I can do if you blindly deny everything.

Post by aaa
You're a troll and a liar as well as possibly a brain damaged idiot
or a Poe pretending to be.
According to you you're never wrong, while nobody in the real world
agrees with you because you're insane.

That's not true. I make mistakes all the time, but God and the Bible
will never be wrong.

There is no evidence to support any god ever doing or saying anything
and your bible likewise has no supporting evidence. Both are simply
unsupported myths.

The Bible is already the Word of God as the evidence that is open to
all. All anyone has to do is to study the Bible to understand the truth
of God. There is no mystery and no trick. It is God's will to teach us
the truth with the teaching of the Bible. Myth is only the result of
human misunderstanding. It has nothing to do with the Bible or God.

I have seen no evidence to support the validity of your book of myths.

The Bible truth is the evidence. It will prove and explain everything
written in the Bible.

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by aaa
Your refusal to provide evidence for your bullshit (not that anyone
expected you to) and accusing everyone who disagrees with you as
being "spiritually blind," you haven't said anything true about
anything.

If you can't recognize the spiritual evidence of God in my signature,
you can't blame me for calling you a spiritual blind, and you can't
blame me for not showing you the evidence of God either.

[Attila]

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by aaa

Post by aaa
It's never about any of that. Here in usenet, we only debate for the

truth. If an atheist is too prejudiced to allow the truth to reign
supreme, perhaps he isn't a real atheist after all.
____________________
The problem is that your truth is only true for you and your truth
has nothing to do with reality.

I think I have made it clear about debating for the truth.

Post by aaa
From not telling the truth about what the bible says to lying about
the second law of thermodynamics, to cells that pray, you are as full
of shit as a Xmas goose.

There is nothing I can do if you blindly deny everything.

Post by aaa
You're a troll and a liar as well as possibly a brain damaged idiot
or a Poe pretending to be.
According to you you're never wrong, while nobody in the real world
agrees with you because you're insane.

That's not true. I make mistakes all the time, but God and the Bible
will never be wrong.

There is no evidence to support any god ever doing or saying anything
and your bible likewise has no supporting evidence. Both are simply
unsupported myths.

The Bible is already the Word of God as the evidence that is open to
all. All anyone has to do is to study the Bible to understand the truth
of God. There is no mystery and no trick. It is God's will to teach us
the truth with the teaching of the Bible. Myth is only the result of
human misunderstanding. It has nothing to do with the Bible or God.

I have seen no evidence to support the validity of your book of myths.

The Bible truth is the evidence.

I have yet to see any evidence supporting anything claimed by that
book. Therefore I consider it a book of myth and no more accurate
than Gone With the Wind.

Post by aaa
It will prove and explain everything
written in the Bible.

Nothing can prove itself. Outside and unrelated evidence is required.

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by aaa
Your refusal to provide evidence for your bullshit (not that anyone
expected you to) and accusing everyone who disagrees with you as
being "spiritually blind," you haven't said anything true about
anything.

If you can't recognize the spiritual evidence of God in my signature,
you can't blame me for calling you a spiritual blind, and you can't
blame me for not showing you the evidence of God either.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

I am not conservative so much as a rabid anti-liberal.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

[aaa]

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by aaa

Post by aaa
It's never about any of that. Here in usenet, we only debate for the

truth. If an atheist is too prejudiced to allow the truth to reign
supreme, perhaps he isn't a real atheist after all.
____________________
The problem is that your truth is only true for you and your truth
has nothing to do with reality.

I think I have made it clear about debating for the truth.

Post by aaa
From not telling the truth about what the bible says to lying about
the second law of thermodynamics, to cells that pray, you are as full
of shit as a Xmas goose.

There is nothing I can do if you blindly deny everything.

Post by aaa
You're a troll and a liar as well as possibly a brain damaged idiot
or a Poe pretending to be.
According to you you're never wrong, while nobody in the real world
agrees with you because you're insane.

That's not true. I make mistakes all the time, but God and the Bible
will never be wrong.

There is no evidence to support any god ever doing or saying anything
and your bible likewise has no supporting evidence. Both are simply
unsupported myths.

The Bible is already the Word of God as the evidence that is open to
all. All anyone has to do is to study the Bible to understand the truth
of God. There is no mystery and no trick. It is God's will to teach us
the truth with the teaching of the Bible. Myth is only the result of
human misunderstanding. It has nothing to do with the Bible or God.

I have seen no evidence to support the validity of your book of myths.

The Bible truth is the evidence.

I have yet to see any evidence supporting anything claimed by that
book. Therefore I consider it a book of myth and no more accurate
than Gone With the Wind.

The truth of the Bible is spiritual. It can't be seen with the physical
eyes. It can only be realized in one's heart.

Post by Attila

Post by aaa
It will prove and explain everything
written in the Bible.

Nothing can prove itself. Outside and unrelated evidence is required.

The Bible doesn't have to prove itself. The Bible is proven by the truth
shown in the Bible. You can disagree with the Bible, but you can't
disagree with the truth of the Bible.

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by aaa
Your refusal to provide evidence for your bullshit (not that anyone
expected you to) and accusing everyone who disagrees with you as
being "spiritually blind," you haven't said anything true about
anything.

If you can't recognize the spiritual evidence of God in my signature,
you can't blame me for calling you a spiritual blind, and you can't
blame me for not showing you the evidence of God either.

[Attila]

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by aaa

Post by aaa
It's never about any of that. Here in usenet, we only debate for the

truth. If an atheist is too prejudiced to allow the truth to reign
supreme, perhaps he isn't a real atheist after all.
____________________
The problem is that your truth is only true for you and your truth
has nothing to do with reality.

I think I have made it clear about debating for the truth.

Post by aaa
From not telling the truth about what the bible says to lying about
the second law of thermodynamics, to cells that pray, you are as full
of shit as a Xmas goose.

There is nothing I can do if you blindly deny everything.

Post by aaa
You're a troll and a liar as well as possibly a brain damaged idiot
or a Poe pretending to be.
According to you you're never wrong, while nobody in the real world
agrees with you because you're insane.

That's not true. I make mistakes all the time, but God and the Bible
will never be wrong.

There is no evidence to support any god ever doing or saying anything
and your bible likewise has no supporting evidence. Both are simply
unsupported myths.

The Bible is already the Word of God as the evidence that is open to
all. All anyone has to do is to study the Bible to understand the truth
of God. There is no mystery and no trick. It is God's will to teach us
the truth with the teaching of the Bible. Myth is only the result of
human misunderstanding. It has nothing to do with the Bible or God.

I have seen no evidence to support the validity of your book of myths.

The Bible truth is the evidence.

I have yet to see any evidence supporting anything claimed by that
book. Therefore I consider it a book of myth and no more accurate
than Gone With the Wind.

The truth of the Bible is spiritual. It can't be seen with the physical
eyes. It can only be realized in one's heart.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary. What part of that
do you fail to understand?

Apparently all of it.

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa
It will prove and explain everything
written in the Bible.

Nothing can prove itself. Outside and unrelated evidence is required.

The Bible doesn't have to prove itself. The Bible is proven by the truth
shown in the Bible

That is using it to prove itself, you dimwit.

Post by aaa
You can disagree with the Bible, but you can't
disagree with the truth of the Bible.

What truth? Supporting evidence please.
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

I am not conservative so much as a rabid anti-liberal.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

[aaa]

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by aaa

Post by aaa
It's never about any of that. Here in usenet, we only debate for the

truth. If an atheist is too prejudiced to allow the truth to reign
supreme, perhaps he isn't a real atheist after all.
____________________
The problem is that your truth is only true for you and your truth
has nothing to do with reality.

I think I have made it clear about debating for the truth.

Post by aaa
From not telling the truth about what the bible says to lying about
the second law of thermodynamics, to cells that pray, you are as full
of shit as a Xmas goose.

There is nothing I can do if you blindly deny everything.

Post by aaa
You're a troll and a liar as well as possibly a brain damaged idiot
or a Poe pretending to be.
According to you you're never wrong, while nobody in the real world
agrees with you because you're insane.

That's not true. I make mistakes all the time, but God and the Bible
will never be wrong.

There is no evidence to support any god ever doing or saying anything
and your bible likewise has no supporting evidence. Both are simply
unsupported myths.

The Bible is already the Word of God as the evidence that is open to
all. All anyone has to do is to study the Bible to understand the truth
of God. There is no mystery and no trick. It is God's will to teach us
the truth with the teaching of the Bible. Myth is only the result of
human misunderstanding. It has nothing to do with the Bible or God.

I have seen no evidence to support the validity of your book of myths.

The Bible truth is the evidence.

I have yet to see any evidence supporting anything claimed by that
book. Therefore I consider it a book of myth and no more accurate
than Gone With the Wind.

The truth of the Bible is spiritual. It can't be seen with the physical
eyes. It can only be realized in one's heart.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary. What part of that
do you fail to understand?
Apparently all of it.

The things listed in my signature are all spiritual, and they are all
real. You only need to better understand them.

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa
It will prove and explain everything
written in the Bible.

Nothing can prove itself. Outside and unrelated evidence is required.

The Bible doesn't have to prove itself. The Bible is proven by the truth
shown in the Bible

That is using it to prove itself, you dimwit.

No. The truth of relativity proves the theory of relativity. That's not
using relativity to prove itself.

Post by Attila

Post by aaa
You can disagree with the Bible, but you can't
disagree with the truth of the Bible.

What truth? Supporting evidence please.

The supporting evidence for the truth of the Bible would be everything
that happens in this world and in our life. By realizing the Bible
truth, we will better understand the world and our own life. As the
result, we will not be fooled by the illusion of sin to forsake God and
commit evil only to suffer in our own foolishness anymore.

[Attila]

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by aaa

Post by aaa
It's never about any of that. Here in usenet, we only debate for the

truth. If an atheist is too prejudiced to allow the truth to reign
supreme, perhaps he isn't a real atheist after all.
____________________
The problem is that your truth is only true for you and your truth
has nothing to do with reality.

I think I have made it clear about debating for the truth.

Post by aaa
From not telling the truth about what the bible says to lying about
the second law of thermodynamics, to cells that pray, you are as full
of shit as a Xmas goose.

There is nothing I can do if you blindly deny everything.

Post by aaa
You're a troll and a liar as well as possibly a brain damaged idiot
or a Poe pretending to be.
According to you you're never wrong, while nobody in the real world
agrees with you because you're insane.

That's not true. I make mistakes all the time, but God and the Bible
will never be wrong.

There is no evidence to support any god ever doing or saying anything
and your bible likewise has no supporting evidence. Both are simply
unsupported myths.

The Bible is already the Word of God as the evidence that is open to
all. All anyone has to do is to study the Bible to understand the truth
of God. There is no mystery and no trick. It is God's will to teach us
the truth with the teaching of the Bible. Myth is only the result of
human misunderstanding. It has nothing to do with the Bible or God.

I have seen no evidence to support the validity of your book of myths.

The Bible truth is the evidence.

I have yet to see any evidence supporting anything claimed by that
book. Therefore I consider it a book of myth and no more accurate
than Gone With the Wind.

The truth of the Bible is spiritual. It can't be seen with the physical
eyes. It can only be realized in one's heart.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary. What part of that
do you fail to understand?
Apparently all of it.

The things listed in my signature are all spiritual, and they are all
real. You only need to better understand them.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary.

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa
It will prove and explain everything
written in the Bible.

Nothing can prove itself. Outside and unrelated evidence is required.

The Bible doesn't have to prove itself. The Bible is proven by the truth
shown in the Bible

That is using it to prove itself, you dimwit.

No. The truth of relativity proves the theory of relativity. That's not
using relativity to prove itself.

Post by Attila

Post by aaa
You can disagree with the Bible, but you can't
disagree with the truth of the Bible.

What truth? Supporting evidence please.

The supporting evidence for the truth of the Bible would be everything
that happens in this world and in our life.

You sound like the dumbass.

Post by aaa
By realizing the Bible
truth, we will better understand the world and our own life. As the
result, we will not be fooled by the illusion of sin to forsake God and
commit evil only to suffer in our own foolishness anymore.

Support any of that with actual evidence.
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

I am not conservative so much as a rabid anti-liberal.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

[aaa]

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by aaa

Post by aaa
It's never about any of that. Here in usenet, we only debate for the

truth. If an atheist is too prejudiced to allow the truth to reign
supreme, perhaps he isn't a real atheist after all.
____________________
The problem is that your truth is only true for you and your truth
has nothing to do with reality.

I think I have made it clear about debating for the truth.

Post by aaa
From not telling the truth about what the bible says to lying about
the second law of thermodynamics, to cells that pray, you are as full
of shit as a Xmas goose.

There is nothing I can do if you blindly deny everything.

Post by aaa
You're a troll and a liar as well as possibly a brain damaged idiot
or a Poe pretending to be.
According to you you're never wrong, while nobody in the real world
agrees with you because you're insane.

That's not true. I make mistakes all the time, but God and the Bible
will never be wrong.

There is no evidence to support any god ever doing or saying anything
and your bible likewise has no supporting evidence. Both are simply
unsupported myths.

The Bible is already the Word of God as the evidence that is open to
all. All anyone has to do is to study the Bible to understand the truth
of God. There is no mystery and no trick. It is God's will to teach us
the truth with the teaching of the Bible. Myth is only the result of
human misunderstanding. It has nothing to do with the Bible or God.

I have seen no evidence to support the validity of your book of myths.

The Bible truth is the evidence.

I have yet to see any evidence supporting anything claimed by that
book. Therefore I consider it a book of myth and no more accurate
than Gone With the Wind.

The truth of the Bible is spiritual. It can't be seen with the physical
eyes. It can only be realized in one's heart.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary. What part of that
do you fail to understand?
Apparently all of it.

The things listed in my signature are all spiritual, and they are all
real. You only need to better understand them.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary.

That's not a logical reponse to what I said. I have just shown you the
spiritual evidence.

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa
It will prove and explain everything
written in the Bible.

Nothing can prove itself. Outside and unrelated evidence is required.

The Bible doesn't have to prove itself. The Bible is proven by the truth
shown in the Bible

That is using it to prove itself, you dimwit.

No. The truth of relativity proves the theory of relativity. That's not
using relativity to prove itself.

Post by Attila

Post by aaa
You can disagree with the Bible, but you can't
disagree with the truth of the Bible.

What truth? Supporting evidence please.

The supporting evidence for the truth of the Bible would be everything
that happens in this world and in our life.

You sound like the dumbass.

Why do you say that?

Post by Attila

Post by aaa
By realizing the Bible
truth, we will better understand the world and our own life. As the
result, we will not be fooled by the illusion of sin to forsake God and
commit evil only to suffer in our own foolishness anymore.

Support any of that with actual evidence.

That's what I have found out and realized in my own life experience.
It's what you need to find out by engaging in your own spiritual practice.

[Attila]

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by aaa

Post by aaa
It's never about any of that. Here in usenet, we only debate for
the

truth. If an atheist is too prejudiced to allow the truth to reign
supreme, perhaps he isn't a real atheist after all.
____________________
The problem is that your truth is only true for you and your truth
has nothing to do with reality.

I think I have made it clear about debating for the truth.

Post by aaa
From not telling the truth about what the bible says to lying about
the second law of thermodynamics, to cells that pray, you are as full
of shit as a Xmas goose.

There is nothing I can do if you blindly deny everything.

Post by aaa
You're a troll and a liar as well as possibly a brain damaged idiot
or a Poe pretending to be.
According to you you're never wrong, while nobody in the real world
agrees with you because you're insane.

That's not true. I make mistakes all the time, but God and the Bible
will never be wrong.

There is no evidence to support any god ever doing or saying anything
and your bible likewise has no supporting evidence. Both are simply
unsupported myths.

The Bible is already the Word of God as the evidence that is open to
all. All anyone has to do is to study the Bible to understand the truth
of God. There is no mystery and no trick. It is God's will to teach us
the truth with the teaching of the Bible. Myth is only the result of
human misunderstanding. It has nothing to do with the Bible or God.

I have seen no evidence to support the validity of your book of myths.

The Bible truth is the evidence.

I have yet to see any evidence supporting anything claimed by that
book. Therefore I consider it a book of myth and no more accurate
than Gone With the Wind.

The truth of the Bible is spiritual. It can't be seen with the physical
eyes. It can only be realized in one's heart.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary. What part of that
do you fail to understand?
Apparently all of it.

The things listed in my signature are all spiritual, and they are all
real. You only need to better understand them.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary.

That's not a logical reponse to what I said. I have just shown you the
spiritual evidence.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary. That means I don't
care what it says I reject it with no additional consideration. It
become irrelevant and not worth reading.

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa
It will prove and explain everything
written in the Bible.

Nothing can prove itself. Outside and unrelated evidence is required.

The Bible doesn't have to prove itself. The Bible is proven by the truth
shown in the Bible

That is using it to prove itself, you dimwit.

No. The truth of relativity proves the theory of relativity. That's not
using relativity to prove itself.

Post by Attila

Post by aaa
You can disagree with the Bible, but you can't
disagree with the truth of the Bible.

What truth? Supporting evidence please.

The supporting evidence for the truth of the Bible would be everything
that happens in this world and in our life.

You sound like the dumbass.

Why do you say that?

Because you keep repeating back that which I have told you I consider
imaginary and automatically reject with no consideration.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary.

What do you think that means?

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa
By realizing the Bible
truth, we will better understand the world and our own life. As the
result, we will not be fooled by the illusion of sin to forsake God and
commit evil only to suffer in our own foolishness anymore.

Support any of that with actual evidence.

That's what I have found out and realized in my own life experience.

Goody for you. Personally I could not care less - it means nothing to
me - you could be delusional or lying.

Post by aaa
It's what you need to find out by engaging in your own spiritual practice.

There is that S word again. Statement rejected.
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

I am not conservative so much as a rabid anti-liberal.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

[aaa]

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by aaa

Post by aaa
It's never about any of that. Here in usenet, we only debate for
the

truth. If an atheist is too prejudiced to allow the truth to reign
supreme, perhaps he isn't a real atheist after all.
____________________
The problem is that your truth is only true for you and your truth
has nothing to do with reality.

I think I have made it clear about debating for the truth.

Post by aaa
From not telling the truth about what the bible says to lying about
the second law of thermodynamics, to cells that pray, you are as full
of shit as a Xmas goose.

There is nothing I can do if you blindly deny everything.

Post by aaa
You're a troll and a liar as well as possibly a brain damaged idiot
or a Poe pretending to be.
According to you you're never wrong, while nobody in the real world
agrees with you because you're insane.

That's not true. I make mistakes all the time, but God and the Bible
will never be wrong.

There is no evidence to support any god ever doing or saying anything
and your bible likewise has no supporting evidence. Both are simply
unsupported myths.

The Bible is already the Word of God as the evidence that is open to
all. All anyone has to do is to study the Bible to understand the truth
of God. There is no mystery and no trick. It is God's will to teach us
the truth with the teaching of the Bible. Myth is only the result of
human misunderstanding. It has nothing to do with the Bible or God.

I have seen no evidence to support the validity of your book of myths.

The Bible truth is the evidence.

I have yet to see any evidence supporting anything claimed by that
book. Therefore I consider it a book of myth and no more accurate
than Gone With the Wind.

The truth of the Bible is spiritual. It can't be seen with the physical
eyes. It can only be realized in one's heart.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary. What part of that
do you fail to understand?
Apparently all of it.

The things listed in my signature are all spiritual, and they are all
real. You only need to better understand them.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary.

That's not a logical reponse to what I said. I have just shown you the
spiritual evidence.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary. That means I don't
care what it says I reject it with no additional consideration. It
become irrelevant and not worth reading.

Since I have just shown you the evidence for you to see, there is no
reason for you to repeat yourself this way.

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa
It will prove and explain everything
written in the Bible.

Nothing can prove itself. Outside and unrelated evidence is required.

The Bible doesn't have to prove itself. The Bible is proven by the truth
shown in the Bible

That is using it to prove itself, you dimwit.

No. The truth of relativity proves the theory of relativity. That's not
using relativity to prove itself.

Post by Attila

Post by aaa
You can disagree with the Bible, but you can't
disagree with the truth of the Bible.

What truth? Supporting evidence please.

The supporting evidence for the truth of the Bible would be everything
that happens in this world and in our life.

You sound like the dumbass.

Why do you say that?

Because you keep repeating back that which I have told you I consider
imaginary and automatically reject with no consideration.

What you consider imaginary may not be imaginary. What I have shown you
is never imaginary. Why can't you accept that?

Post by Attila
I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary.
What do you think that means?

It means you are ignorant of the spiritual. It's the reason why I asked
you to look at my signature to better understand those spiritual evidence.

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa
By realizing the Bible
truth, we will better understand the world and our own life. As the
result, we will not be fooled by the illusion of sin to forsake God and
commit evil only to suffer in our own foolishness anymore.

Support any of that with actual evidence.

That's what I have found out and realized in my own life experience.

Goody for you. Personally I could not care less - it means nothing to
me - you could be delusional or lying.

That's why you need to have your own experience in life so that you can
verify what I said.

Post by Attila

Post by aaa
It's what you need to find out by engaging in your own spiritual practice.

There is that S word again. Statement rejected.

That's rejection based on your own ignorance. It should only prove your
stupidity.

[Attila]

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by aaa

Post by aaa
It's never about any of that. Here in usenet, we only debate for
the

truth. If an atheist is too prejudiced to allow the truth to reign
supreme, perhaps he isn't a real atheist after all.
____________________
The problem is that your truth is only true for you and your truth
has nothing to do with reality.

I think I have made it clear about debating for the truth.

Post by aaa
From not telling the truth about what the bible says to lying about
the second law of thermodynamics, to cells that pray, you are as full
of shit as a Xmas goose.

There is nothing I can do if you blindly deny everything.

Post by aaa
You're a troll and a liar as well as possibly a brain damaged idiot
or a Poe pretending to be.
According to you you're never wrong, while nobody in the real world
agrees with you because you're insane.

That's not true. I make mistakes all the time, but God and the Bible
will never be wrong.

There is no evidence to support any god ever doing or saying anything
and your bible likewise has no supporting evidence. Both are simply
unsupported myths.

The Bible is already the Word of God as the evidence that is open to
all. All anyone has to do is to study the Bible to understand the truth
of God. There is no mystery and no trick. It is God's will to teach us
the truth with the teaching of the Bible. Myth is only the result of
human misunderstanding. It has nothing to do with the Bible or God.

I have seen no evidence to support the validity of your book of myths.

The Bible truth is the evidence.

I have yet to see any evidence supporting anything claimed by that
book. Therefore I consider it a book of myth and no more accurate
than Gone With the Wind.

The truth of the Bible is spiritual. It can't be seen with the physical
eyes. It can only be realized in one's heart.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary. What part of that
do you fail to understand?
Apparently all of it.

The things listed in my signature are all spiritual, and they are all
real. You only need to better understand them.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary.

That's not a logical reponse to what I said. I have just shown you the
spiritual evidence.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary. That means I don't
care what it says I reject it with no additional consideration. It
become irrelevant and not worth reading.

Since I have just shown you the evidence for you to see, there is no
reason for you to repeat yourself this way.

You keep using the S word and I will keep rejecting your entire
comment.

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa
It will prove and explain everything
written in the Bible.

Nothing can prove itself. Outside and unrelated evidence is required.

The Bible doesn't have to prove itself. The Bible is proven by the truth
shown in the Bible

That is using it to prove itself, you dimwit.

No. The truth of relativity proves the theory of relativity. That's not
using relativity to prove itself.

Post by Attila

Post by aaa
You can disagree with the Bible, but you can't
disagree with the truth of the Bible.

What truth? Supporting evidence please.

The supporting evidence for the truth of the Bible would be everything
that happens in this world and in our life.

You sound like the dumbass.

Why do you say that?

Because you keep repeating back that which I have told you I consider
imaginary and automatically reject with no consideration.

What you consider imaginary may not be imaginary. What I have shown you
is never imaginary. Why can't you accept that?

Not without evidence.

Post by aaa

Post by Attila
I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary.
What do you think that means?

It means you are ignorant of the spiritual. It's the reason why I asked
you to look at my signature to better understand those spiritual evidence.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary.

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa
By realizing the Bible
truth, we will better understand the world and our own life. As the
result, we will not be fooled by the illusion of sin to forsake God and
commit evil only to suffer in our own foolishness anymore.

Support any of that with actual evidence.

That's what I have found out and realized in my own life experience.

Goody for you. Personally I could not care less - it means nothing to
me - you could be delusional or lying.

That's why you need to have your own experience in life so that you can
verify what I said.

Nope. I require evidence not experiences.

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa
It's what you need to find out by engaging in your own spiritual practice.

There is that S word again. Statement rejected.

That's rejection based on your own ignorance. It should only prove your
stupidity.

In your opinion, for what that is worth.
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

I am not conservative so much as a rabid anti-liberal.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

[aaa]

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by aaa

Post by aaa
It's never about any of that. Here in usenet, we only debate for
the

truth. If an atheist is too prejudiced to allow the truth to reign
supreme, perhaps he isn't a real atheist after all.
____________________
The problem is that your truth is only true for you and your truth
has nothing to do with reality.

I think I have made it clear about debating for the truth.

Post by aaa
From not telling the truth about what the bible says to lying about
the second law of thermodynamics, to cells that pray, you are as full
of shit as a Xmas goose.

There is nothing I can do if you blindly deny everything.

Post by aaa
You're a troll and a liar as well as possibly a brain damaged idiot
or a Poe pretending to be.
According to you you're never wrong, while nobody in the real world
agrees with you because you're insane.

That's not true. I make mistakes all the time, but God and the Bible
will never be wrong.

There is no evidence to support any god ever doing or saying anything
and your bible likewise has no supporting evidence. Both are simply
unsupported myths.

The Bible is already the Word of God as the evidence that is open to
all. All anyone has to do is to study the Bible to understand the truth
of God. There is no mystery and no trick. It is God's will to teach us
the truth with the teaching of the Bible. Myth is only the result of
human misunderstanding. It has nothing to do with the Bible or God.

I have seen no evidence to support the validity of your book of myths.

The Bible truth is the evidence.

I have yet to see any evidence supporting anything claimed by that
book. Therefore I consider it a book of myth and no more accurate
than Gone With the Wind.

The truth of the Bible is spiritual. It can't be seen with the physical
eyes. It can only be realized in one's heart.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary. What part of that
do you fail to understand?
Apparently all of it.

The things listed in my signature are all spiritual, and they are all
real. You only need to better understand them.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary.

That's not a logical reponse to what I said. I have just shown you the
spiritual evidence.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary. That means I don't
care what it says I reject it with no additional consideration. It
become irrelevant and not worth reading.

Since I have just shown you the evidence for you to see, there is no
reason for you to repeat yourself this way.

You keep using the S word and I will keep rejecting your entire
comment.

Your ignorance is not my problem. It's your responsibility to deal with
your ignorance.

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa
It will prove and explain everything
written in the Bible.

Nothing can prove itself. Outside and unrelated evidence is required.

The Bible doesn't have to prove itself. The Bible is proven by the truth
shown in the Bible

That is using it to prove itself, you dimwit.

No. The truth of relativity proves the theory of relativity. That's not
using relativity to prove itself.

Post by Attila

Post by aaa
You can disagree with the Bible, but you can't
disagree with the truth of the Bible.

What truth? Supporting evidence please.

The supporting evidence for the truth of the Bible would be everything
that happens in this world and in our life.

You sound like the dumbass.

Why do you say that?

Because you keep repeating back that which I have told you I consider
imaginary and automatically reject with no consideration.

What you consider imaginary may not be imaginary. What I have shown you
is never imaginary. Why can't you accept that?

Not without evidence.

They are already the evidence.

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila
I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary.
What do you think that means?

It means you are ignorant of the spiritual. It's the reason why I asked
you to look at my signature to better understand those spiritual evidence.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary.

I have shown you the evidence.

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa
By realizing the Bible
truth, we will better understand the world and our own life. As the
result, we will not be fooled by the illusion of sin to forsake God and
commit evil only to suffer in our own foolishness anymore.

Support any of that with actual evidence.

That's what I have found out and realized in my own life experience.

Goody for you. Personally I could not care less - it means nothing to
me - you could be delusional or lying.

That's why you need to have your own experience in life so that you can
verify what I said.

Nope. I require evidence not experiences.

The spiritual evidence must be based on experience.

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa
It's what you need to find out by engaging in your own spiritual practice.

There is that S word again. Statement rejected.

That's rejection based on your own ignorance. It should only prove your
stupidity.

In your opinion, for what that is worth.

It's simple logic.

[Attila]

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by aaa

Post by aaa
It's never about any of that. Here in usenet, we only debate for
the

truth. If an atheist is too prejudiced to allow the truth to reign
supreme, perhaps he isn't a real atheist after all.
____________________
The problem is that your truth is only true for you and your truth
has nothing to do with reality.

I think I have made it clear about debating for the truth.

Post by aaa
From not telling the truth about what the bible says to lying about
the second law of thermodynamics, to cells that pray, you are as full
of shit as a Xmas goose.

There is nothing I can do if you blindly deny everything.

Post by aaa
You're a troll and a liar as well as possibly a brain damaged idiot
or a Poe pretending to be.
According to you you're never wrong, while nobody in the real world
agrees with you because you're insane.

That's not true. I make mistakes all the time, but God and the Bible
will never be wrong.

There is no evidence to support any god ever doing or saying anything
and your bible likewise has no supporting evidence. Both are simply
unsupported myths.

The Bible is already the Word of God as the evidence that is open to
all. All anyone has to do is to study the Bible to understand the truth
of God. There is no mystery and no trick. It is God's will to teach us
the truth with the teaching of the Bible. Myth is only the result of
human misunderstanding. It has nothing to do with the Bible or God.

I have seen no evidence to support the validity of your book of myths.

The Bible truth is the evidence.

I have yet to see any evidence supporting anything claimed by that
book. Therefore I consider it a book of myth and no more accurate
than Gone With the Wind.

The truth of the Bible is spiritual. It can't be seen with the physical
eyes. It can only be realized in one's heart.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary. What part of that
do you fail to understand?
Apparently all of it.

The things listed in my signature are all spiritual, and they are all
real. You only need to better understand them.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary.

That's not a logical reponse to what I said. I have just shown you the
spiritual evidence.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary. That means I don't
care what it says I reject it with no additional consideration. It
become irrelevant and not worth reading.

Since I have just shown you the evidence for you to see, there is no
reason for you to repeat yourself this way.

You keep using the S word and I will keep rejecting your entire
comment.

Your ignorance is not my problem. It's your responsibility to deal with
your ignorance.

It is your responsibility to either provide supporting evidence for
your assertions or admit they are not factual. Do you make such an
admission? Do you contend your superstition is factual?

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa
It will prove and explain everything
written in the Bible.

Nothing can prove itself. Outside and unrelated evidence is required.

The Bible doesn't have to prove itself. The Bible is proven by the truth
shown in the Bible

That is using it to prove itself, you dimwit.

No. The truth of relativity proves the theory of relativity. That's not
using relativity to prove itself.

Post by Attila

Post by aaa
You can disagree with the Bible, but you can't
disagree with the truth of the Bible.

What truth? Supporting evidence please.

The supporting evidence for the truth of the Bible would be everything
that happens in this world and in our life.

You sound like the dumbass.

Why do you say that?

Because you keep repeating back that which I have told you I consider
imaginary and automatically reject with no consideration.

What you consider imaginary may not be imaginary. What I have shown you
is never imaginary. Why can't you accept that?

Not without evidence.

They are already the evidence.

Nonsense.

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila
I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary.
What do you think that means?

It means you are ignorant of the spiritual. It's the reason why I asked
you to look at my signature to better understand those spiritual evidence.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary.

I have shown you the evidence.

No you have not.

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa
By realizing the Bible
truth, we will better understand the world and our own life. As the
result, we will not be fooled by the illusion of sin to forsake God and
commit evil only to suffer in our own foolishness anymore.

Support any of that with actual evidence.

That's what I have found out and realized in my own life experience.

Goody for you. Personally I could not care less - it means nothing to
me - you could be delusional or lying.

That's why you need to have your own experience in life so that you can
verify what I said.

Nope. I require evidence not experiences.

The spiritual evidence must be based on experience.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary.

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa
It's what you need to find out by engaging in your own spiritual practice.

There is that S word again. Statement rejected.

That's rejection based on your own ignorance. It should only prove your
stupidity.

In your opinion, for what that is worth.

It's simple logic.

Logic is irrelevant. Frequently logic is nothing more than being
wrong with confidence.
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

I am not conservative so much as a rabid anti-liberal.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

[Mitchell Holman]

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by aaa

Post by aaa
It's never about any of that. Here in usenet, we only debate for the

truth. If an atheist is too prejudiced to allow the truth to
reign supreme, perhaps he isn't a real atheist after all.
____________________
The problem is that your truth is only true for you and your
truth has nothing to do with reality.

I think I have made it clear about debating for the truth.

Post by aaa
From not telling the truth about what the bible says to lying about
the second law of thermodynamics, to cells that pray, you are as
full of shit as a Xmas goose.

There is nothing I can do if you blindly deny everything.

Post by aaa
You're a troll and a liar as well as possibly a brain damaged
idiot or a Poe pretending to be.
According to you you're never wrong, while nobody in the real
world agrees with you because you're insane.

That's not true. I make mistakes all the time, but God and the
Bible will never be wrong.

There is no evidence to support any god ever doing or saying
anything and your bible likewise has no supporting evidence. Both
are simply unsupported myths.

The Bible is already the Word of God as the evidence that is open to
all. All anyone has to do is to study the Bible to understand the
truth of God. There is no mystery and no trick. It is God's will to
teach us the truth with the teaching of the Bible. Myth is only the
result of human misunderstanding. It has nothing to do with the
Bible or God.

I have seen no evidence to support the validity of your book of myths.

The Bible truth is the evidence. It will prove and explain everything
written in the Bible.

Assuming you agree with it's "interpretation"
when a passage proves you wrong, that is..........

[aaa]

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by aaa

Post by aaa
It's never about any of that. Here in usenet, we only debate for the

truth. If an atheist is too prejudiced to allow the truth to
reign supreme, perhaps he isn't a real atheist after all.
____________________
The problem is that your truth is only true for you and your
truth has nothing to do with reality.

I think I have made it clear about debating for the truth.

Post by aaa
From not telling the truth about what the bible says to lying about
the second law of thermodynamics, to cells that pray, you are as
full of shit as a Xmas goose.

There is nothing I can do if you blindly deny everything.

Post by aaa
You're a troll and a liar as well as possibly a brain damaged
idiot or a Poe pretending to be.
According to you you're never wrong, while nobody in the real
world agrees with you because you're insane.

That's not true. I make mistakes all the time, but God and the
Bible will never be wrong.

There is no evidence to support any god ever doing or saying
anything and your bible likewise has no supporting evidence. Both
are simply unsupported myths.

The Bible is already the Word of God as the evidence that is open to
all. All anyone has to do is to study the Bible to understand the
truth of God. There is no mystery and no trick. It is God's will to
teach us the truth with the teaching of the Bible. Myth is only the
result of human misunderstanding. It has nothing to do with the
Bible or God.

I have seen no evidence to support the validity of your book of myths.

The Bible truth is the evidence. It will prove and explain everything
written in the Bible.

Assuming you agree with it's "interpretation"
when a passage proves you wrong, that is..........

I have faith in the Bible, but I don't have faith in your interpretation
of the Bible.

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It's never about any of that. Here in usenet, we only debate for the

truth. If an atheist is too prejudiced to allow the truth to
reign supreme, perhaps he isn't a real atheist after all.
____________________
The problem is that your truth is only true for you and your
truth has nothing to do with reality.

I think I have made it clear about debating for the truth.

Post by aaa
From not telling the truth about what the bible says to lying about
the second law of thermodynamics, to cells that pray, you are as
full of shit as a Xmas goose.

There is nothing I can do if you blindly deny everything.

Post by aaa
You're a troll and a liar as well as possibly a brain damaged
idiot or a Poe pretending to be.
According to you you're never wrong, while nobody in the real
world agrees with you because you're insane.

That's not true. I make mistakes all the time, but God and the
Bible will never be wrong.

There is no evidence to support any god ever doing or saying
anything and your bible likewise has no supporting evidence. Both
are simply unsupported myths.

The Bible is already the Word of God as the evidence that is open to
all. All anyone has to do is to study the Bible to understand the
truth of God. There is no mystery and no trick. It is God's will to
teach us the truth with the teaching of the Bible. Myth is only the
result of human misunderstanding. It has nothing to do with the
Bible or God.

I have seen no evidence to support the validity of your book of myths.

The Bible truth is the evidence. It will prove and explain everything
written in the Bible.

Assuming you agree with it's "interpretation"
when a passage proves you wrong, that is..........

I have faith in the Bible, but I don't have faith in your interpretation
of the Bible.

How is quoting the exact words of the bible an interpretation?

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It's never about any of that. Here in usenet, we only debate for the

truth. If an atheist is too prejudiced to allow the truth to
reign supreme, perhaps he isn't a real atheist after all.
____________________
The problem is that your truth is only true for you and your
truth has nothing to do with reality.

I think I have made it clear about debating for the truth.

Post by aaa
From not telling the truth about what the bible says to lying about
the second law of thermodynamics, to cells that pray, you are as
full of shit as a Xmas goose.

There is nothing I can do if you blindly deny everything.

Post by aaa
You're a troll and a liar as well as possibly a brain damaged
idiot or a Poe pretending to be.
According to you you're never wrong, while nobody in the real
world agrees with you because you're insane.

That's not true. I make mistakes all the time, but God and the
Bible will never be wrong.

There is no evidence to support any god ever doing or saying
anything and your bible likewise has no supporting evidence. Both
are simply unsupported myths.

The Bible is already the Word of God as the evidence that is open to
all. All anyone has to do is to study the Bible to understand the
truth of God. There is no mystery and no trick. It is God's will to
teach us the truth with the teaching of the Bible. Myth is only the
result of human misunderstanding. It has nothing to do with the
Bible or God.

I have seen no evidence to support the validity of your book of myths.

The Bible truth is the evidence. It will prove and explain everything
written in the Bible.

Assuming you agree with it's "interpretation"
when a passage proves you wrong, that is..........

I have faith in the Bible, but I don't have faith in your interpretation
of the Bible.

How is quoting the exact words of the bible an interpretation?

It isn't. That's why I never disagreed with any exact quote of the Bible.

[Mitchell Holman]

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It's never about any of that. Here in usenet, we only debate for the

truth. If an atheist is too prejudiced to allow the truth to
reign supreme, perhaps he isn't a real atheist after all.
____________________
The problem is that your truth is only true for you and your
truth has nothing to do with reality.

I think I have made it clear about debating for the truth.

Post by aaa
From not telling the truth about what the bible says to
lying about
the second law of thermodynamics, to cells that pray, you are
as full of shit as a Xmas goose.

There is nothing I can do if you blindly deny everything.

Post by aaa
You're a troll and a liar as well as possibly a brain damaged
idiot or a Poe pretending to be.
According to you you're never wrong, while nobody in the real
world agrees with you because you're insane.

That's not true. I make mistakes all the time, but God and the
Bible will never be wrong.

There is no evidence to support any god ever doing or saying
anything and your bible likewise has no supporting evidence.
Both are simply unsupported myths.

The Bible is already the Word of God as the evidence that is
open to all. All anyone has to do is to study the Bible to
understand the truth of God. There is no mystery and no trick.
It is God's will to teach us the truth with the teaching of the
Bible. Myth is only the result of human misunderstanding. It has
nothing to do with the Bible or God.

I have seen no evidence to support the validity of your book of myths.

The Bible truth is the evidence. It will prove and explain
everything written in the Bible.

Assuming you agree with it's "interpretation"
when a passage proves you wrong, that is..........

I have faith in the Bible, but I don't have faith in your
interpretation of the Bible.

How is quoting the exact words of the bible an interpretation?

It isn't. That's why I never disagreed with any exact quote of the Bible.

So you accept this exact quote (from the
Christian site Bible Gateway)?




So God said to Noah, "I am going to put
an end to all people, for the earth is
filled with violence because of them. I am
surely going to destroy both them and the
earth. I am going to bring floodwaters on
the earth to destroy all life under the
heavens, every creature that has the breath
of life in it. Everything on earth will
perish.
Genesis 6: 13

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+6&version=NIV

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It's never about any of that. Here in usenet, we only debate for the

truth. If an atheist is too prejudiced to allow the truth to
reign supreme, perhaps he isn't a real atheist after all.
____________________
The problem is that your truth is only true for you and your
truth has nothing to do with reality.

I think I have made it clear about debating for the truth.

Post by aaa
From not telling the truth about what the bible says to
lying about
the second law of thermodynamics, to cells that pray, you are
as full of shit as a Xmas goose.

There is nothing I can do if you blindly deny everything.

Post by aaa
You're a troll and a liar as well as possibly a brain damaged
idiot or a Poe pretending to be.
According to you you're never wrong, while nobody in the real
world agrees with you because you're insane.

That's not true. I make mistakes all the time, but God and the
Bible will never be wrong.

There is no evidence to support any god ever doing or saying
anything and your bible likewise has no supporting evidence.
Both are simply unsupported myths.

The Bible is already the Word of God as the evidence that is
open to all. All anyone has to do is to study the Bible to
understand the truth of God. There is no mystery and no trick.
It is God's will to teach us the truth with the teaching of the
Bible. Myth is only the result of human misunderstanding. It has
nothing to do with the Bible or God.

I have seen no evidence to support the validity of your book of myths.

The Bible truth is the evidence. It will prove and explain
everything written in the Bible.

Assuming you agree with it's "interpretation"
when a passage proves you wrong, that is..........

I have faith in the Bible, but I don't have faith in your
interpretation of the Bible.

How is quoting the exact words of the bible an interpretation?

It isn't. That's why I never disagreed with any exact quote of the Bible.

So you accept this exact quote (from the
Christian site Bible Gateway)?

I never rejected it. I have only rejected your interpretation instead.

Post by Mitchell Holman
So God said to Noah, "I am going to put
an end to all people, for the earth is
filled with violence because of them. I am
surely going to destroy both them and the
earth. I am going to bring floodwaters on
the earth to destroy all life under the
heavens, every creature that has the breath
of life in it. Everything on earth will
perish.
Genesis 6: 13
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+6&version=NIV

[Mitchell Holman]

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It's never about any of that. Here in usenet, we only

debate

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for the

truth. If an atheist is too prejudiced to allow the truth to
reign supreme, perhaps he isn't a real atheist after all.
____________________
The problem is that your truth is only true for you and your
truth has nothing to do with reality.

I think I have made it clear about debating for the truth.

Post by aaa
From not telling the truth about what the bible says to
lying about
the second law of thermodynamics, to cells that pray, you are
as full of shit as a Xmas goose.

There is nothing I can do if you blindly deny everything.

Post by aaa
You're a troll and a liar as well as possibly a brain damaged
idiot or a Poe pretending to be.
According to you you're never wrong, while nobody in the real
world agrees with you because you're insane.

That's not true. I make mistakes all the time, but God and the
Bible will never be wrong.

There is no evidence to support any god ever doing or saying
anything and your bible likewise has no supporting evidence.
Both are simply unsupported myths.

The Bible is already the Word of God as the evidence that is
open to all. All anyone has to do is to study the Bible to
understand the truth of God. There is no mystery and no trick.
It is God's will to teach us the truth with the teaching of the
Bible. Myth is only the result of human misunderstanding. It has
nothing to do with the Bible or God.

I have seen no evidence to support the validity of your book of myths.

The Bible truth is the evidence. It will prove and explain
everything written in the Bible.

Assuming you agree with it's "interpretation"
when a passage proves you wrong, that is..........

I have faith in the Bible, but I don't have faith in your
interpretation of the Bible.

How is quoting the exact words of the bible an interpretation?

It isn't. That's why I never disagreed with any exact quote of the Bible.

So you accept this exact quote (from the
Christian site Bible Gateway)?

I never rejected it. I have only rejected your interpretation instead.

There is no "interpretation"

Below is the exact text of Genesis.

Why do you reject it?

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Post by Mitchell Holman
So God said to Noah, "I am going to put
an end to all people, for the earth is
filled with violence because of them. I am
surely going to destroy both them and the
earth. I am going to bring floodwaters on
the earth to destroy all life under the
heavens, every creature that has the breath
of life in it. Everything on earth will
perish.
Genesis 6: 13
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+6&version=NIV

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It's never about any of that. Here in usenet, we only

debate

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for the

truth. If an atheist is too prejudiced to allow the truth to
reign supreme, perhaps he isn't a real atheist after all.
____________________
The problem is that your truth is only true for you and your
truth has nothing to do with reality.

I think I have made it clear about debating for the truth.

Post by aaa
From not telling the truth about what the bible says to
lying about
the second law of thermodynamics, to cells that pray, you

are

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as full of shit as a Xmas goose.

There is nothing I can do if you blindly deny everything.

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You're a troll and a liar as well as possibly a brain

damaged

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idiot or a Poe pretending to be.
According to you you're never wrong, while nobody in the

real

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world agrees with you because you're insane.

That's not true. I make mistakes all the time, but God and

the

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Bible will never be wrong.

There is no evidence to support any god ever doing or saying
anything and your bible likewise has no supporting evidence.
Both are simply unsupported myths.

The Bible is already the Word of God as the evidence that is
open to all. All anyone has to do is to study the Bible to
understand the truth of God. There is no mystery and no trick.
It is God's will to teach us the truth with the teaching of the
Bible. Myth is only the result of human misunderstanding. It

has

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nothing to do with the Bible or God.

I have seen no evidence to support the validity of your book of myths.

The Bible truth is the evidence. It will prove and explain
everything written in the Bible.

Assuming you agree with it's "interpretation"
when a passage proves you wrong, that is..........

I have faith in the Bible, but I don't have faith in your
interpretation of the Bible.

How is quoting the exact words of the bible an interpretation?

It isn't. That's why I never disagreed with any exact quote of the Bible.

So you accept this exact quote (from the
Christian site Bible Gateway)?

I never rejected it. I have only rejected your interpretation instead.

There is no "interpretation"

Not possible. Without interpretation, you can't say anything about the
Bible. Everything you say is already your interpretation regardless
whether you like it or not.

Post by aaa
Below is the exact text of Genesis.
Why do you reject it?

I don't.

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Post by Mitchell Holman
So God said to Noah, "I am going to put
an end to all people, for the earth is
filled with violence because of them. I am
surely going to destroy both them and the
earth. I am going to bring floodwaters on
the earth to destroy all life under the
heavens, every creature that has the breath
of life in it. Everything on earth will
perish.
Genesis 6: 13
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+6&version=NIV

[Mitchell Holman]

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It's never about any of that. Here in usenet, we only

debate

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for the

truth. If an atheist is too prejudiced to allow the truth
to reign supreme, perhaps he isn't a real atheist after
all. ____________________
The problem is that your truth is only true for you and
your truth has nothing to do with reality.

I think I have made it clear about debating for the truth.

Post by aaa
From not telling the truth about what the bible
says to lying about
the second law of thermodynamics, to cells that pray, you

are

Post by aaa

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as full of shit as a Xmas goose.

There is nothing I can do if you blindly deny everything.

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You're a troll and a liar as well as possibly a brain

damaged

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Post by Smiler

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idiot or a Poe pretending to be.
According to you you're never wrong, while nobody in the

real

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Post by Smiler

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Post by Mitchell Holman

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world agrees with you because you're insane.

That's not true. I make mistakes all the time, but God and

the

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Bible will never be wrong.

There is no evidence to support any god ever doing or
saying anything and your bible likewise has no supporting
evidence. Both are simply unsupported myths.

The Bible is already the Word of God as the evidence that is
open to all. All anyone has to do is to study the Bible to
understand the truth of God. There is no mystery and no
trick. It is God's will to teach us the truth with the
teaching of the Bible. Myth is only the result of human
misunderstanding. It

has

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nothing to do with the Bible or God.

I have seen no evidence to support the validity of your book of myths.

The Bible truth is the evidence. It will prove and explain
everything written in the Bible.

Assuming you agree with it's "interpretation"
when a passage proves you wrong, that is..........

I have faith in the Bible, but I don't have faith in your
interpretation of the Bible.

How is quoting the exact words of the bible an interpretation?

It isn't. That's why I never disagreed with any exact quote of the Bible.

So you accept this exact quote (from the
Christian site Bible Gateway)?

I never rejected it. I have only rejected your interpretation instead.

There is no "interpretation"

Not possible. Without interpretation, you can't say anything about the
Bible. Everything you say is already your interpretation regardless
whether you like it or not.

If the whole Bible is just "interpretation"
why do you believe any of it?

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Post by aaa
Below is the exact text of Genesis.
Why do you reject it?

I don't.

You just did.

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Post by Mitchell Holman
So God said to Noah, "I am going to put
an end to all people, for the earth is
filled with violence because of them. I am
surely going to destroy both them and the
earth. I am going to bring floodwaters on
the earth to destroy all life under the
heavens, every creature that has the breath
of life in it. Everything on earth will
perish.
Genesis 6: 13
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+6&version=NIV

[Smiler]

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It's never about any of that. Here in usenet, we only debate for the

truth. If an atheist is too prejudiced to allow the truth to reign
supreme, perhaps he isn't a real atheist after all.
____________________
The problem is that your truth is only true for you and your truth
has nothing to do with reality.

I think I have made it clear about debating for the truth.

Post by aaa
From not telling the truth about what the bible says to lying about
the second law of thermodynamics, to cells that pray, you are as
full of shit as a Xmas goose.

There is nothing I can do if you blindly deny everything.

Post by aaa
You're a troll and a liar as well as possibly a brain damaged idiot
or a Poe pretending to be.
According to you you're never wrong, while nobody in the real world
agrees with you because you're insane.

That's not true. I make mistakes all the time, but God and the Bible
will never be wrong.

There is no evidence to support any god ever doing or saying anything
and your bible likewise has no supporting evidence. Both are simply
unsupported myths.

The Bible is already the Word of God as the evidence that is open to
all. All anyone has to do is to study the Bible to understand the
truth of God. There is no mystery and no trick. It is God's will to
teach us the truth with the teaching of the Bible. Myth is only the
result of human misunderstanding. It has nothing to do with the Bible
or God.

I have seen no evidence to support the validity of your book of myths.

The Bible truth is the evidence. It will prove and explain everything
written in the Bible.

Watch out folks! The Oozlum bird is back.

[aaa]

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It's never about any of that. Here in usenet, we only debate for the

truth. If an atheist is too prejudiced to allow the truth to reign
supreme, perhaps he isn't a real atheist after all.
____________________
The problem is that your truth is only true for you and your truth
has nothing to do with reality.

I think I have made it clear about debating for the truth.

Post by aaa
From not telling the truth about what the bible says to lying about
the second law of thermodynamics, to cells that pray, you are as
full of shit as a Xmas goose.

There is nothing I can do if you blindly deny everything.

Post by aaa
You're a troll and a liar as well as possibly a brain damaged idiot
or a Poe pretending to be.
According to you you're never wrong, while nobody in the real world
agrees with you because you're insane.

That's not true. I make mistakes all the time, but God and the Bible
will never be wrong.

There is no evidence to support any god ever doing or saying anything
and your bible likewise has no supporting evidence. Both are simply
unsupported myths.

The Bible is already the Word of God as the evidence that is open to
all. All anyone has to do is to study the Bible to understand the
truth of God. There is no mystery and no trick. It is God's will to
teach us the truth with the teaching of the Bible. Myth is only the
result of human misunderstanding. It has nothing to do with the Bible
or God.

I have seen no evidence to support the validity of your book of myths.

The Bible truth is the evidence. It will prove and explain everything
written in the Bible.

Watch out folks! The Oozlum bird is back.

The truth of the Bible isn't the Bible itself. The Bible only reflects
and indicates the truth of the Bible. So the Bible is only a mirror that
shows you the truth in your own heart.

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It's never about any of that. Here in usenet, we only debate for the

truth. If an atheist is too prejudiced to allow the truth to
reign supreme, perhaps he isn't a real atheist after all.
____________________
The problem is that your truth is only true for you and your
truth has nothing to do with reality.

I think I have made it clear about debating for the truth.

Post by aaa
From not telling the truth about what the bible says to lying about
the second law of thermodynamics, to cells that pray, you are as
full of shit as a Xmas goose.

There is nothing I can do if you blindly deny everything.

Post by aaa
You're a troll and a liar as well as possibly a brain damaged
idiot or a Poe pretending to be.
According to you you're never wrong, while nobody in the real
world agrees with you because you're insane.

That's not true. I make mistakes all the time, but God and the
Bible will never be wrong.

There is no evidence to support any god ever doing or saying
anything and your bible likewise has no supporting evidence. Both
are simply unsupported myths.

The Bible is already the Word of God as the evidence that is open to
all. All anyone has to do is to study the Bible to understand the
truth of God. There is no mystery and no trick. It is God's will to
teach us the truth with the teaching of the Bible. Myth is only the
result of human misunderstanding. It has nothing to do with the
Bible or God.

I have seen no evidence to support the validity of your book of myths.

The Bible truth is the evidence. It will prove and explain everything
written in the Bible.

Watch out folks! The Oozlum bird is back.

<snip gobbledegook>

Ooh look! Nothing left.

[aaa]

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It's never about any of that. Here in usenet, we only debate for the

truth. If an atheist is too prejudiced to allow the truth to
reign supreme, perhaps he isn't a real atheist after all.
____________________
The problem is that your truth is only true for you and your
truth has nothing to do with reality.

I think I have made it clear about debating for the truth.

Post by aaa
From not telling the truth about what the bible says to lying about
the second law of thermodynamics, to cells that pray, you are as
full of shit as a Xmas goose.

There is nothing I can do if you blindly deny everything.

Post by aaa
You're a troll and a liar as well as possibly a brain damaged
idiot or a Poe pretending to be.
According to you you're never wrong, while nobody in the real
world agrees with you because you're insane.

That's not true. I make mistakes all the time, but God and the
Bible will never be wrong.

There is no evidence to support any god ever doing or saying
anything and your bible likewise has no supporting evidence. Both
are simply unsupported myths.

The Bible is already the Word of God as the evidence that is open to
all. All anyone has to do is to study the Bible to understand the
truth of God. There is no mystery and no trick. It is God's will to
teach us the truth with the teaching of the Bible. Myth is only the
result of human misunderstanding. It has nothing to do with the
Bible or God.

I have seen no evidence to support the validity of your book of myths.

The Bible truth is the evidence. It will prove and explain everything
written in the Bible.

Watch out folks! The Oozlum bird is back.

<snip gobbledegook>
Ooh look! Nothing left.

Sheer naked blind denial. Why am I not surprised?

[Smiler]

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It's never about any of that. Here in usenet, we only debate for the

truth. If an atheist is too prejudiced to allow the truth to
reign supreme, perhaps he isn't a real atheist after all.
____________________
The problem is that your truth is only true for you and your
truth has nothing to do with reality.

I think I have made it clear about debating for the truth.

Post by aaa
From not telling the truth about what the bible says to
lying about
the second law of thermodynamics, to cells that pray, you are
as full of shit as a Xmas goose.

There is nothing I can do if you blindly deny everything.

Post by aaa
You're a troll and a liar as well as possibly a brain damaged
idiot or a Poe pretending to be.
According to you you're never wrong, while nobody in the real
world agrees with you because you're insane.

That's not true. I make mistakes all the time, but God and the
Bible will never be wrong.

There is no evidence to support any god ever doing or saying
anything and your bible likewise has no supporting evidence.
Both are simply unsupported myths.

The Bible is already the Word of God as the evidence that is open
to all. All anyone has to do is to study the Bible to understand
the truth of God. There is no mystery and no trick. It is God's
will to teach us the truth with the teaching of the Bible. Myth is
only the result of human misunderstanding. It has nothing to do
with the Bible or God.

I have seen no evidence to support the validity of your book of myths.

The Bible truth is the evidence. It will prove and explain
everything written in the Bible.

Watch out folks! The Oozlum bird is back.

<snip gobbledegook>
Ooh look! Nothing left.

Sheer naked blind denial. Why am I not surprised?

Total insanity. Why am I not surprised?

[aaa]

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Post by aaa
It's never about any of that. Here in usenet, we only debate for the

truth. If an atheist is too prejudiced to allow the truth to
reign supreme, perhaps he isn't a real atheist after all.
____________________
The problem is that your truth is only true for you and your
truth has nothing to do with reality.

I think I have made it clear about debating for the truth.

Post by aaa
From not telling the truth about what the bible says to
lying about
the second law of thermodynamics, to cells that pray, you are
as full of shit as a Xmas goose.

There is nothing I can do if you blindly deny everything.

Post by aaa
You're a troll and a liar as well as possibly a brain damaged
idiot or a Poe pretending to be.
According to you you're never wrong, while nobody in the real
world agrees with you because you're insane.

That's not true. I make mistakes all the time, but God and the
Bible will never be wrong.

There is no evidence to support any god ever doing or saying
anything and your bible likewise has no supporting evidence.
Both are simply unsupported myths.

The Bible is already the Word of God as the evidence that is open
to all. All anyone has to do is to study the Bible to understand
the truth of God. There is no mystery and no trick. It is God's
will to teach us the truth with the teaching of the Bible. Myth is
only the result of human misunderstanding. It has nothing to do
with the Bible or God.

I have seen no evidence to support the validity of your book of myths.

The Bible truth is the evidence. It will prove and explain
everything written in the Bible.

Watch out folks! The Oozlum bird is back.

<snip gobbledegook>
Ooh look! Nothing left.

Sheer naked blind denial. Why am I not surprised?

Total insanity. Why am I not surprised?

You know that's not true. You should stop lying and admit your own
ignorance.

[Smiler]

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Post by aaa
It's never about any of that. Here in usenet, we only debate
for the

truth. If an atheist is too prejudiced to allow the truth to
reign supreme, perhaps he isn't a real atheist after all.
____________________
The problem is that your truth is only true for you and your
truth has nothing to do with reality.

I think I have made it clear about debating for the truth.

Post by aaa
From not telling the truth about what the bible says to
lying about
the second law of thermodynamics, to cells that pray, you are
as full of shit as a Xmas goose.

There is nothing I can do if you blindly deny everything.

Post by aaa
You're a troll and a liar as well as possibly a brain damaged
idiot or a Poe pretending to be.
According to you you're never wrong, while nobody in the real
world agrees with you because you're insane.

That's not true. I make mistakes all the time, but God and the
Bible will never be wrong.

There is no evidence to support any god ever doing or saying
anything and your bible likewise has no supporting evidence.
Both are simply unsupported myths.

The Bible is already the Word of God as the evidence that is
open to all. All anyone has to do is to study the Bible to
understand the truth of God. There is no mystery and no trick.
It is God's will to teach us the truth with the teaching of the
Bible. Myth is only the result of human misunderstanding. It has
nothing to do with the Bible or God.

I have seen no evidence to support the validity of your book of myths.

The Bible truth is the evidence. It will prove and explain
everything written in the Bible.

Watch out folks! The Oozlum bird is back.

<snip gobbledegook>
Ooh look! Nothing left.

Sheer naked blind denial. Why am I not surprised?

Total insanity. Why am I not surprised?

You know that's not true. You should stop lying and admit your own
ignorance.

You know that it's true. You should stop lying and admit your own insanity.

[aaa]

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Post by aaa
It's never about any of that. Here in usenet, we only debate
for the

truth. If an atheist is too prejudiced to allow the truth to
reign supreme, perhaps he isn't a real atheist after all.
____________________
The problem is that your truth is only true for you and your
truth has nothing to do with reality.

I think I have made it clear about debating for the truth.

Post by aaa
From not telling the truth about what the bible says to
lying about
the second law of thermodynamics, to cells that pray, you are
as full of shit as a Xmas goose.

There is nothing I can do if you blindly deny everything.

Post by aaa
You're a troll and a liar as well as possibly a brain damaged
idiot or a Poe pretending to be.
According to you you're never wrong, while nobody in the real
world agrees with you because you're insane.

That's not true. I make mistakes all the time, but God and the
Bible will never be wrong.

There is no evidence to support any god ever doing or saying
anything and your bible likewise has no supporting evidence.
Both are simply unsupported myths.

The Bible is already the Word of God as the evidence that is
open to all. All anyone has to do is to study the Bible to
understand the truth of God. There is no mystery and no trick.
It is God's will to teach us the truth with the teaching of the
Bible. Myth is only the result of human misunderstanding. It has
nothing to do with the Bible or God.

I have seen no evidence to support the validity of your book of myths.

The Bible truth is the evidence. It will prove and explain
everything written in the Bible.

Watch out folks! The Oozlum bird is back.

<snip gobbledegook>
Ooh look! Nothing left.

Sheer naked blind denial. Why am I not surprised?

Total insanity. Why am I not surprised?

You know that's not true. You should stop lying and admit your own
ignorance.

You know that it's true. You should stop lying and admit your own insanity.

Nope. I'm not insane, but you are spiritually blind.

[Cloud Hobbit]

Post by aaa
I think I have made it clear about debating for the truth.

________________

That's what you say, its not what you do. You say stuff that makes no sense and when anybody disagrees, no matter the evidence, which you never have, you tell them they "spiritually blind."

You keep claiming you don't have to provide evidence cuz it's just simple logic. The fact that nobody here has ever made the insane, stupid, and false statements that you have made means it's not simple logic.

We know you're a liar and a troll and the only blindness is yours if we accept your bullshit about brain trauma. If that's just another of your bullshit stories then you're jus another trolling asshole.

It might be a little interesting to know why you engage in the unmitigated nonsense you spew, but not much and if you disappeared tomorrow nobody would miss you except maybe as a source of absurdist humor.

Get a life, troll.

[aaa]

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Post by aaa
I think I have made it clear about debating for the truth.

________________
That's what you say, its not what you do. You say stuff that makes
no sense and when anybody disagrees, no matter the evidence, which
you never have, you tell them they "spiritually blind."

As an atheist, you are spiritually blind. You wouldn't be an atheist if
you do have the spiritual insight to know and understand God.

Post by Cloud Hobbit
You keep claiming you don't have to provide evidence cuz it's just
simple logic. The fact that nobody here has ever made the insane,
stupid, and false statements that you have made means it's not simple
logic.

That's just your bullshitting. Can you show me an actual example to
prove your claim? I can't believe that my simple logic is rocket science
to you.

Post by Cloud Hobbit
We know you're a liar and a troll and the only blindness is yours if
we accept your bullshit about brain trauma. If that's just another
of your bullshit stories then you're jus another trolling asshole.
It might be a little interesting to know why you engage in the
unmitigated nonsense you spew, but not much and if you disappeared
tomorrow nobody would miss you except maybe as a source of absurdist
humor.

That only proves your total lack of understanding to what I have said.
Perhaps you need to improve yourself spiritually and philosophically
instead.

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Get a life, troll.

My life is just fine. You have nothing to worry about.

[Mitchell Holman]

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Post by aaa
I think I have made it clear about debating for the truth.

________________
That's what you say, its not what you do. You say stuff that makes
no sense and when anybody disagrees, no matter the evidence, which
you never have, you tell them they "spiritually blind."

As an atheist, you are spiritually blind. You wouldn't be an atheist if
you do have the spiritual insight to know and understand God.

Post by Cloud Hobbit
You keep claiming you don't have to provide evidence cuz it's just
simple logic. The fact that nobody here has ever made the insane,
stupid, and false statements that you have made means it's not simple
logic.

That's just your bullshitting. Can you show me an actual example to
prove your claim?

Here is one.


"God gave the Americans the Atomic Bombs to
make Japan the laughing stock of the world"
"aaa", July 11 2017
http://tinyurl.com/y8bcmz2m


If god gave America the atomic bomb
then he also gave the Germans Zyclon B
to gass the Jews with, no?

[aaa]

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Post by aaa
I think I have made it clear about debating for the truth.

________________
That's what you say, its not what you do. You say stuff that makes
no sense and when anybody disagrees, no matter the evidence, which
you never have, you tell them they "spiritually blind."

As an atheist, you are spiritually blind. You wouldn't be an atheist if
you do have the spiritual insight to know and understand God.

Post by Cloud Hobbit
You keep claiming you don't have to provide evidence cuz it's just
simple logic. The fact that nobody here has ever made the insane,
stupid, and false statements that you have made means it's not simple
logic.

That's just your bullshitting. Can you show me an actual example to
prove your claim?

Here is one.
"God gave the Americans the Atomic Bombs to
make Japan the laughing stock of the world"
"aaa", July 11 2017
http://tinyurl.com/y8bcmz2m
If god gave America the atomic bomb
then he also gave the Germans Zyclon B
to gass the Jews with, no?

Absolutely no. God is always good, and God is always for justice. God is
never evil.

Remember that! It's the foundation of everything in this universe.

[Mynews]

Methinks my assault on the evil nature of your "God"
has gotten under your skin.

We see here that you acknowledge that He is,
but you don't like Him.

First of all, I acknowledge that *you* all claim He exists, not me. I've
never stated that I believe a God, whether it be
Poppa God, or God Jr.
Get your facts straight.
Second, I've never said "I don't like God."
I only play devil's advocate and assume your God the Father, and Junior
exist simply for the sake of argument. I take that position just to show
you all just how damn stupid belief in either one turns out to be.
*I* don't believe they exist, *you* do, you bird-brain.

Not the position of a true atheist.

Given the fact that I don't truly believe in the existence of ANY deity,
and that I try to point out why actual belief in "God" is so damn stupid,
I'm a true atheist.

It appears that you are a genuine hypocrite.

No,that's just you
*trying* to make me out to be one through falsehoods.
Every atheist member of a.a. whose familiar with my "work" *knows*
full-well I'm an atheist. It's just that you want denigrate me any way
you can. So you resort to the ridiculous claim that I'm some sort of
"pseudo-atheist." That's just an out-and-out lie.

See above for the evidence.
You have hereby --> been exposed.

Yeah, right. What's been *really* exposed here is just how low you will
reach to try and assault my atheist credibility. But you've failed, Hoss.
And failed horribly.
You're a phony "Christian." A genuine phony Christian. You wouldn't be
doing w>hat you do here in this forum

i>> f you were a true-blue,

Jesus-following one.
You're here just to antagonize the atheist in their own home. *And* to
get the attention you crave.
But we all know you're as phony a Christian as they come.

so you believe that there is no power greater than you

Things is: I Am Nothing
Truly I Believe in The son of nothing
But That Don't Mark Me Christian

Nothing
I Believe in
Is God Of
Atheism

// Absolutely no.
// God is always good,
// and God is always for justice.
// God is never evil.

Do Nothing
is & Will
Justice No Sex

// Remember that!
// It's the foundation of everything in this universe.
// --
// God's spiritual evidence:
// Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
// happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

[Attila]

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On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 10:06:38 -0500, Christopher A. Lee

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alt.atheism with message-id

Post by Y***@yahoo.com
Vol 1. Vedas, author Krishna
Vol 2. Old Testament, author Moses
Vol 3. Tao Te Ching, author Laozi
Vol 4. Tripitaka, author Buddha
Vol 5. New Testament, author Jesus
Vol 6. Koran, author Muhammad
Vol 7. Mormon, author Joseph Smith
A good book. Enjoy.
YHWH Allah
(LORD God)

Does it include supporting evidence to prove these aren't just lies or
delusions?

And why should we give a shit about nonsense from somebody else's
religion which the imbecile knows we don't believe in the first place,
yet he posts it anyway?

It seems many of these gods demand their followers must cram their
beliefs down the throats of others no matter what anyone else wants.
Remember, at one time rather that push their superstitions on others
they simply killed them and took all of their property.
That's how the RCC became so wealthy.

It's never about any of that.

Of course it is.

Post by aaa
Here in usenet, we only debate for the
truth.

Or for amusement.

Post by aaa
If an atheist is too prejudiced to allow the truth to reign
supreme, perhaps he isn't a real atheist after all.

Without supporting evidence there can be no recognized truth. That
would describe all religions since none of them have any supporting
evidence.
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

I am not conservative so much as a rabid anti-liberal.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

[aaa]

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila
On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 10:06:38 -0500, Christopher A. Lee

On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 10:21:54 -0400, Attila

Post by Attila
On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 02:53:05 -0700 (PDT),

Vol 1. Vedas, author Krishna Vol 2. Old Testament, author
Moses Vol 3. Tao Te Ching, author Laozi Vol 4. Tripitaka,
author Buddha Vol 5. New Testament, author Jesus Vol 6.
Koran, author Muhammad Vol 7. Mormon, author Joseph Smith
A good book. Enjoy.
YHWH Allah (LORD God)

Does it include supporting evidence to prove these aren't
just lies or delusions?

And why should we give a shit about nonsense from somebody
else's religion which the imbecile knows we don't believe in
the first place, yet he posts it anyway?

It seems many of these gods demand their followers must cram
their beliefs down the throats of others no matter what anyone
else wants. Remember, at one time rather that push their
superstitions on others they simply killed them and took all of
their property.
That's how the RCC became so wealthy.

It's never about any of that.

Of course it is.

Post by aaa
Here in usenet, we only debate for the truth.

Or for amusement.

Post by aaa
If an atheist is too prejudiced to allow the truth to reign
supreme, perhaps he isn't a real atheist after all.

Without supporting evidence there can be no recognized truth. That
would describe all religions since none of them have any supporting
evidence.

Only empirical truth needs evidence. The spiritual truth is the
self-evident truth that determines all things in the universe.

[Attila]

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila
On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 10:06:38 -0500, Christopher A. Lee

On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 10:21:54 -0400, Attila

Post by Attila
On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 02:53:05 -0700 (PDT),

Vol 1. Vedas, author Krishna Vol 2. Old Testament, author
Moses Vol 3. Tao Te Ching, author Laozi Vol 4. Tripitaka,
author Buddha Vol 5. New Testament, author Jesus Vol 6.
Koran, author Muhammad Vol 7. Mormon, author Joseph Smith
A good book. Enjoy.
YHWH Allah (LORD God)

Does it include supporting evidence to prove these aren't
just lies or delusions?

And why should we give a shit about nonsense from somebody
else's religion which the imbecile knows we don't believe in
the first place, yet he posts it anyway?

It seems many of these gods demand their followers must cram
their beliefs down the throats of others no matter what anyone
else wants. Remember, at one time rather that push their
superstitions on others they simply killed them and took all of
their property.
That's how the RCC became so wealthy.

It's never about any of that.

Of course it is.

Post by aaa
Here in usenet, we only debate for the truth.

Or for amusement.

Post by aaa
If an atheist is too prejudiced to allow the truth to reign
supreme, perhaps he isn't a real atheist after all.

Without supporting evidence there can be no recognized truth. That
would describe all religions since none of them have any supporting
evidence.

Only empirical truth needs evidence. The spiritual truth is the
self-evident truth that determines all things in the universe.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary.
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

I am not conservative so much as a rabid anti-liberal.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

[aaa]

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila
On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 10:06:38 -0500, Christopher A. Lee

On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 10:21:54 -0400, Attila

Post by Attila
On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 02:53:05 -0700 (PDT),

Vol 1. Vedas, author Krishna Vol 2. Old Testament, author
Moses Vol 3. Tao Te Ching, author Laozi Vol 4. Tripitaka,
author Buddha Vol 5. New Testament, author Jesus Vol 6.
Koran, author Muhammad Vol 7. Mormon, author Joseph Smith
A good book. Enjoy.
YHWH Allah (LORD God)

Does it include supporting evidence to prove these aren't
just lies or delusions?

And why should we give a shit about nonsense from somebody
else's religion which the imbecile knows we don't believe in
the first place, yet he posts it anyway?

It seems many of these gods demand their followers must cram
their beliefs down the throats of others no matter what anyone
else wants. Remember, at one time rather that push their
superstitions on others they simply killed them and took all of
their property.
That's how the RCC became so wealthy.

It's never about any of that.

Of course it is.

Post by aaa
Here in usenet, we only debate for the truth.

Or for amusement.

Post by aaa
If an atheist is too prejudiced to allow the truth to reign
supreme, perhaps he isn't a real atheist after all.

Without supporting evidence there can be no recognized truth. That
would describe all religions since none of them have any supporting
evidence.

Only empirical truth needs evidence. The spiritual truth is the
self-evident truth that determines all things in the universe.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary.

The things in my signature are never imaginary. In fact, they can't even
be imagined. They are not only real but also the most important things
we all want to have. Their existence is essential to us. We will always
suffer without them.

[Attila]

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila
On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 10:06:38 -0500, Christopher A. Lee

On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 10:21:54 -0400, Attila

Post by Attila
On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 02:53:05 -0700 (PDT),

Vol 1. Vedas, author Krishna Vol 2. Old Testament, author
Moses Vol 3. Tao Te Ching, author Laozi Vol 4. Tripitaka,
author Buddha Vol 5. New Testament, author Jesus Vol 6.
Koran, author Muhammad Vol 7. Mormon, author Joseph Smith
A good book. Enjoy.
YHWH Allah (LORD God)

Does it include supporting evidence to prove these aren't
just lies or delusions?

And why should we give a shit about nonsense from somebody
else's religion which the imbecile knows we don't believe in
the first place, yet he posts it anyway?

It seems many of these gods demand their followers must cram
their beliefs down the throats of others no matter what anyone
else wants. Remember, at one time rather that push their
superstitions on others they simply killed them and took all of
their property.
That's how the RCC became so wealthy.

It's never about any of that.

Of course it is.

Post by aaa
Here in usenet, we only debate for the truth.

Or for amusement.

Post by aaa
If an atheist is too prejudiced to allow the truth to reign
supreme, perhaps he isn't a real atheist after all.

Without supporting evidence there can be no recognized truth. That
would describe all religions since none of them have any supporting
evidence.

Only empirical truth needs evidence. The spiritual truth is the
self-evident truth that determines all things in the universe.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary.

The things in my signature are never imaginary. In fact, they can't even
be imagined. They are not only real but also the most important things
we all want to have. Their existence is essential to us. We will always
suffer without them.

They are imaginary until they are supported by direct and unrelated
evidence.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary.
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

I am not conservative so much as a rabid anti-liberal.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

[aaa]

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila
On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 10:06:38 -0500, Christopher A. Lee

On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 10:21:54 -0400, Attila

Post by Attila
On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 02:53:05 -0700 (PDT),

Vol 1. Vedas, author Krishna Vol 2. Old Testament, author
Moses Vol 3. Tao Te Ching, author Laozi Vol 4. Tripitaka,
author Buddha Vol 5. New Testament, author Jesus Vol 6.
Koran, author Muhammad Vol 7. Mormon, author Joseph Smith
A good book. Enjoy.
YHWH Allah (LORD God)

Does it include supporting evidence to prove these aren't
just lies or delusions?

And why should we give a shit about nonsense from somebody
else's religion which the imbecile knows we don't believe in
the first place, yet he posts it anyway?

It seems many of these gods demand their followers must cram
their beliefs down the throats of others no matter what anyone
else wants. Remember, at one time rather that push their
superstitions on others they simply killed them and took all of
their property.
That's how the RCC became so wealthy.

It's never about any of that.

Of course it is.

Post by aaa
Here in usenet, we only debate for the truth.

Or for amusement.

Post by aaa
If an atheist is too prejudiced to allow the truth to reign
supreme, perhaps he isn't a real atheist after all.

Without supporting evidence there can be no recognized truth. That
would describe all religions since none of them have any supporting
evidence.

Only empirical truth needs evidence. The spiritual truth is the
self-evident truth that determines all things in the universe.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary.

The things in my signature are never imaginary. In fact, they can't even
be imagined. They are not only real but also the most important things
we all want to have. Their existence is essential to us. We will always
suffer without them.

They are imaginary until they are supported by direct and unrelated
evidence.

They are already the evidence of themselves.

Post by Attila
I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary.

The spiritual existence doesn't have to be evidenced physically. It's a
higher existence than the physical existence. The physical existence is
determined by the spiritual existence instead. It is why life by being
spiritual is capable to control and change the physical world.

[Attila]

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On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 10:06:38 -0500, Christopher A. Lee

On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 10:21:54 -0400, Attila

Post by Attila
On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 02:53:05 -0700 (PDT),

Vol 1. Vedas, author Krishna Vol 2. Old Testament, author
Moses Vol 3. Tao Te Ching, author Laozi Vol 4. Tripitaka,
author Buddha Vol 5. New Testament, author Jesus Vol 6.
Koran, author Muhammad Vol 7. Mormon, author Joseph Smith
A good book. Enjoy.
YHWH Allah (LORD God)

Does it include supporting evidence to prove these aren't
just lies or delusions?

And why should we give a shit about nonsense from somebody
else's religion which the imbecile knows we don't believe in
the first place, yet he posts it anyway?

It seems many of these gods demand their followers must cram
their beliefs down the throats of others no matter what anyone
else wants. Remember, at one time rather that push their
superstitions on others they simply killed them and took all of
their property.
That's how the RCC became so wealthy.

It's never about any of that.

Of course it is.

Post by aaa
Here in usenet, we only debate for the truth.

Or for amusement.

Post by aaa
If an atheist is too prejudiced to allow the truth to reign
supreme, perhaps he isn't a real atheist after all.

Without supporting evidence there can be no recognized truth. That
would describe all religions since none of them have any supporting
evidence.

Only empirical truth needs evidence. The spiritual truth is the
self-evident truth that determines all things in the universe.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary.

The things in my signature are never imaginary. In fact, they can't even
be imagined. They are not only real but also the most important things
we all want to have. Their existence is essential to us. We will always
suffer without them.

They are imaginary until they are supported by direct and unrelated
evidence.

They are already the evidence of themselves.

Nothing can provide evidence of itself.

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Post by Attila
I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary.

The spiritual existence doesn't have to be evidenced physically. It's a
higher existence than the physical existence. The physical existence is
determined by the spiritual existence instead. It is why life by being
spiritual is capable to control and change the physical world.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary. I have told you
this repeatedly yet you insist in trying to use something spiritual in
your responses to me.

Why is that? You know I am going to reject it out of hand.
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

I am not conservative so much as a rabid anti-liberal.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

[Siri Cruise]

Post by Attila

Vol 1. Vedas, author Krishna Vol 2. Old Testament, author
Moses Vol 3. Tao Te Ching, author Laozi Vol 4. Tripitaka,
author Buddha Vol 5. New Testament, author Jesus Vol 6.
Koran, author Muhammad Vol 7. Mormon, author Joseph Smith

I WANT MY EDDAS! AND MY MTV!

Post by Attila
Nothing can provide evidence of itself.

Would you deny the heels of my shoes if I stood on your toes?

Post by Attila
I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary. I have told you

Anything from outside this universe is a matter of conjecture, even whether
there is an outside to the universe.

In some religions like judaism the creator exists outside the creation, so the
creation cannot be expected to comprehend the creator. That you don't understand
the proposed god of the jews says nothing about whether it is true.

In other religions like old egyptian or old germanic, the creator, Nut or Odhin.
was created within the proto-creation which was reshaped by the creator. In such
religions the creator is of the creation and is presented as comprehensible as
any human.

[aaa]

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Post by Attila

Vol 1. Vedas, author Krishna Vol 2. Old Testament, author
Moses Vol 3. Tao Te Ching, author Laozi Vol 4. Tripitaka,
author Buddha Vol 5. New Testament, author Jesus Vol 6.
Koran, author Muhammad Vol 7. Mormon, author Joseph Smith

I WANT MY EDDAS! AND MY MTV!

Post by Attila
Nothing can provide evidence of itself.

Would you deny the heels of my shoes if I stood on your toes?

That would be evidence.

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Post by Attila
I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary. I have told you

Anything from outside this universe is a matter of conjecture, even whether
there is an outside to the universe.

Yep.

Post by Siri Cruise
In some religions like judaism the creator exists outside the creation, so the
creation cannot be expected to comprehend the creator. That you don't understand
the proposed god of the jews says nothing about whether it is true.

Nope. I stand by my statement.

Post by Siri Cruise
In other religions like old egyptian or old germanic, the creator, Nut or Odhin.
was created within the proto-creation which was reshaped by the creator. In such
religions the creator is of the creation and is presented as comprehensible as
any human.

Details which are irrelevant. I stand by my statement.

That's just another way of saying that you stand by your ignorance. You
don't even bother to investigate the suggested possibilities and evidence.

[Attila]

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Post by Attila

Vol 1. Vedas, author Krishna Vol 2. Old Testament, author
Moses Vol 3. Tao Te Ching, author Laozi Vol 4. Tripitaka,
author Buddha Vol 5. New Testament, author Jesus Vol 6.
Koran, author Muhammad Vol 7. Mormon, author Joseph Smith

I WANT MY EDDAS! AND MY MTV!

Post by Attila
Nothing can provide evidence of itself.

Would you deny the heels of my shoes if I stood on your toes?

That would be evidence.

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Attila
I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary. I have told you

Anything from outside this universe is a matter of conjecture, even whether
there is an outside to the universe.

Yep.

Post by Siri Cruise
In some religions like judaism the creator exists outside the creation, so the
creation cannot be expected to comprehend the creator. That you don't understand
the proposed god of the jews says nothing about whether it is true.

Nope. I stand by my statement.

Post by Siri Cruise
In other religions like old egyptian or old germanic, the creator, Nut or Odhin.
was created within the proto-creation which was reshaped by the creator. In such
religions the creator is of the creation and is presented as comprehensible as
any human.

Details which are irrelevant. I stand by my statement.

That's just another way of saying that you stand by your ignorance.

It means I stand by my statement.

Post by aaa
You
don't even bother to investigate the suggested possibilities and evidence.

Evidence doesn't need investigating if it is any good at all.
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

I am not conservative so much as a rabid anti-liberal.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

[Siri Cruise]

Post by Attila
Evidence doesn't need investigating if it is any good at all.

What is the decision procedure for whether evidence is 'good'?

[Attila]

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Post by Attila
Evidence doesn't need investigating if it is any good at all.

What is the decision procedure for whether evidence is 'good'?

The same level as would be expected for something that is not related
to some god.
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

I am not conservative so much as a rabid anti-liberal.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

[Siri Cruise]

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Post by Attila
Evidence doesn't need investigating if it is any good at all.

What is the decision procedure for whether evidence is 'good'?

The same level as would be expected for something that is not related
to some god.

A 'level' is not a procedure. It is a possible characteristic, but not a
procedure.

[Attila]

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Post by Attila
Evidence doesn't need investigating if it is any good at all.

What is the decision procedure for whether evidence is 'good'?

The same level as would be expected for something that is not related
to some god.

A 'level' is not a procedure. It is a possible characteristic, but not a
procedure.

Quality, whatever. In fact, since the existence of a god is about as
implausible as it gets the quality of evidence would need to be better
than for just about anything else.
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

I am not conservative so much as a rabid anti-liberal.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

[Siri Cruise]

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Post by Attila
Evidence doesn't need investigating if it is any good at all.

What is the decision procedure for whether evidence is 'good'?

The same level as would be expected for something that is not related
to some god.

A 'level' is not a procedure. It is a possible characteristic, but not a
procedure.

Quality, whatever. In fact, since the existence of a god is about as
implausible as it gets the quality of evidence would need to be better
than for just about anything else.

What is the procedure to decide the quality of evidence.

[Attila]

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Evidence doesn't need investigating if it is any good at all.

What is the decision procedure for whether evidence is 'good'?

The same level as would be expected for something that is not related
to some god.

A 'level' is not a procedure. It is a possible characteristic, but not a
procedure.

Quality, whatever. In fact, since the existence of a god is about as
implausible as it gets the quality of evidence would need to be better
than for just about anything else.

What is the procedure to decide the quality of evidence.

Present it for inspection. Is it ambiguous? Is it open to any other
interpretation? Would it convince someone of it's validity?

That would be a place to start.
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

I am not conservative so much as a rabid anti-liberal.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

[Smiler]

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On Sun, 15 Jul 2018 14:16:37 -0700, Siri Cruise
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Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Attila
Evidence doesn't need investigating if it is any good at all.

What is the decision procedure for whether evidence is 'good'?

The same level as would be expected for something that is not
related to some god.

A 'level' is not a procedure. It is a possible characteristic, but
not a procedure.

Quality, whatever. In fact, since the existence of a god is about as
implausible as it gets the quality of evidence would need to be better
than for just about anything else.

What is the procedure to decide the quality of evidence.

Present it for inspection. Is it ambiguous? Is it open to any other
interpretation? Would it convince someone of it's validity?
That would be a place to start.

Followed by:
Is it objective?
Is it logical?
Is it verifiable?

[Attila]

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Post by Attila
Evidence doesn't need investigating if it is any good at all.

What is the decision procedure for whether evidence is 'good'?

The same level as would be expected for something that is not
related to some god.

A 'level' is not a procedure. It is a possible characteristic, but
not a procedure.

Quality, whatever. In fact, since the existence of a god is about as
implausible as it gets the quality of evidence would need to be better
than for just about anything else.

What is the procedure to decide the quality of evidence.

Present it for inspection. Is it ambiguous? Is it open to any other
interpretation? Would it convince someone of it's validity?
That would be a place to start.

Is it objective?
Is it logical?
Is it verifiable?

I have yet to see anything that comes close to the few preliminary
conditions I set. Much less your's.
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

I am not conservative so much as a rabid anti-liberal.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

[Siri Cruise]

Post by Attila
Present it for inspection. Is it ambiguous? Is it open to any other
interpretation? Would it convince someone of it's validity?
That would be a place to start.

And you continue to fail to present an objective procedure, depending instead on
subjectivity. And you continue to fail understand what that means.

Bored now.

[Attila]

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Post by Attila
Present it for inspection. Is it ambiguous? Is it open to any other
interpretation? Would it convince someone of it's validity?
That would be a place to start.

And you continue to fail to present an objective procedure, depending instead on
subjectivity. And you continue to fail understand what that means.

Of course you ignore what I posted and made no attempt to provide
anything you consider evidence.

Why am I not surprised?

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Bored now.

It appears anyone who disagrees with you bores you.
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

I am not conservative so much as a rabid anti-liberal.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

[aaa]

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Post by Attila

Vol 1. Vedas, author Krishna Vol 2. Old Testament, author
Moses Vol 3. Tao Te Ching, author Laozi Vol 4. Tripitaka,
author Buddha Vol 5. New Testament, author Jesus Vol 6.
Koran, author Muhammad Vol 7. Mormon, author Joseph Smith

I WANT MY EDDAS! AND MY MTV!

Post by Attila
Nothing can provide evidence of itself.

Would you deny the heels of my shoes if I stood on your toes?

That would be evidence.

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Attila
I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary. I have told you

Anything from outside this universe is a matter of conjecture, even whether
there is an outside to the universe.

Yep.

Post by Siri Cruise
In some religions like judaism the creator exists outside the creation, so the
creation cannot be expected to comprehend the creator. That you don't understand
the proposed god of the jews says nothing about whether it is true.

Nope. I stand by my statement.

Post by Siri Cruise
In other religions like old egyptian or old germanic, the creator, Nut or Odhin.
was created within the proto-creation which was reshaped by the creator. In such
religions the creator is of the creation and is presented as comprehensible as
any human.

Details which are irrelevant. I stand by my statement.

That's just another way of saying that you stand by your ignorance.

It means I stand by my statement.

Your statement shows your ignorance.

Post by Attila

Post by aaa
You
don't even bother to investigate the suggested possibilities and evidence.

Evidence doesn't need investigating if it is any good at all.

That can't be true. Scientific study is all about investigating the
evidence.

[Attila]

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Post by Attila

Post by aaa

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Post by Attila

Vol 1. Vedas, author Krishna Vol 2. Old Testament, author
Moses Vol 3. Tao Te Ching, author Laozi Vol 4. Tripitaka,
author Buddha Vol 5. New Testament, author Jesus Vol 6.
Koran, author Muhammad Vol 7. Mormon, author Joseph Smith

I WANT MY EDDAS! AND MY MTV!

Post by Attila
Nothing can provide evidence of itself.

Would you deny the heels of my shoes if I stood on your toes?

That would be evidence.

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Attila
I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary. I have told you

Anything from outside this universe is a matter of conjecture, even whether
there is an outside to the universe.

Yep.

Post by Siri Cruise
In some religions like judaism the creator exists outside the creation, so the
creation cannot be expected to comprehend the creator. That you don't understand
the proposed god of the jews says nothing about whether it is true.

Nope. I stand by my statement.

Post by Siri Cruise
In other religions like old egyptian or old germanic, the creator, Nut or Odhin.
was created within the proto-creation which was reshaped by the creator. In such
religions the creator is of the creation and is presented as comprehensible as
any human.

Details which are irrelevant. I stand by my statement.

That's just another way of saying that you stand by your ignorance.

It means I stand by my statement.

Your statement shows your ignorance.

The detail are still irrelevant and I still stand by my statement. I
reject anything that says it contains the incomprehensible.

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa
You
don't even bother to investigate the suggested possibilities and evidence.

Evidence doesn't need investigating if it is any good at all.

That can't be true. Scientific study is all about investigating the
evidence.

There must first be something to investigate. Possibilities are not
evidence.
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

I am not conservative so much as a rabid anti-liberal.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

[aaa]

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Post by Attila

Post by aaa

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Post by Attila

Vol 1. Vedas, author Krishna Vol 2. Old Testament, author
Moses Vol 3. Tao Te Ching, author Laozi Vol 4. Tripitaka,
author Buddha Vol 5. New Testament, author Jesus Vol 6.
Koran, author Muhammad Vol 7. Mormon, author Joseph Smith

I WANT MY EDDAS! AND MY MTV!

Post by Attila
Nothing can provide evidence of itself.

Would you deny the heels of my shoes if I stood on your toes?

That would be evidence.

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Attila
I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary. I have told you

Anything from outside this universe is a matter of conjecture, even whether
there is an outside to the universe.

Yep.

Post by Siri Cruise
In some religions like judaism the creator exists outside the creation, so the
creation cannot be expected to comprehend the creator. That you don't understand
the proposed god of the jews says nothing about whether it is true.

Nope. I stand by my statement.

Post by Siri Cruise
In other religions like old egyptian or old germanic, the creator, Nut or Odhin.
was created within the proto-creation which was reshaped by the creator. In such
religions the creator is of the creation and is presented as comprehensible as
any human.

Details which are irrelevant. I stand by my statement.

That's just another way of saying that you stand by your ignorance.

It means I stand by my statement.

Your statement shows your ignorance.

The detail are still irrelevant and I still stand by my statement. I
reject anything that says it contains the incomprehensible.

Your statement is a statement of ignorance. You are not really saying
anything to simply stand by your own ignorance.

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Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa
You
don't even bother to investigate the suggested possibilities and evidence.

Evidence doesn't need investigating if it is any good at all.

That can't be true. Scientific study is all about investigating the
evidence.

There must first be something to investigate. Possibilities are not
evidence.

There are always a lot of things to investigate. That's why it's called
philosophy.

[Attila]

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Post by Attila

Vol 1. Vedas, author Krishna Vol 2. Old Testament, author
Moses Vol 3. Tao Te Ching, author Laozi Vol 4. Tripitaka,
author Buddha Vol 5. New Testament, author Jesus Vol 6.
Koran, author Muhammad Vol 7. Mormon, author Joseph Smith

I WANT MY EDDAS! AND MY MTV!

Post by Attila
Nothing can provide evidence of itself.

Would you deny the heels of my shoes if I stood on your toes?

That would be evidence.

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Attila
I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary. I have told you

Anything from outside this universe is a matter of conjecture, even whether
there is an outside to the universe.

Yep.

Post by Siri Cruise
In some religions like judaism the creator exists outside the creation, so the
creation cannot be expected to comprehend the creator. That you don't understand
the proposed god of the jews says nothing about whether it is true.

Nope. I stand by my statement.

Post by Siri Cruise
In other religions like old egyptian or old germanic, the creator, Nut or Odhin.
was created within the proto-creation which was reshaped by the creator. In such
religions the creator is of the creation and is presented as comprehensible as
any human.

Details which are irrelevant. I stand by my statement.

That's just another way of saying that you stand by your ignorance.

It means I stand by my statement.

Your statement shows your ignorance.

The detail are still irrelevant and I still stand by my statement. I
reject anything that says it contains the incomprehensible.

Your statement is a statement of ignorance. You are not really saying
anything to simply stand by your own ignorance.

I continue to reject any position that contends that anything is
incomprehensible.

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa
You
don't even bother to investigate the suggested possibilities and evidence.

Evidence doesn't need investigating if it is any good at all.

That can't be true. Scientific study is all about investigating the
evidence.

There must first be something to investigate. Possibilities are not
evidence.

There are always a lot of things to investigate. That's why it's called
philosophy.

I don't do philosophy. Can you possibly understand that? Don't waste
my time by referring to it since I will simply reject out of hand any
part of it.

Exactly as I do your attempts to interject the S word into the
conversation.
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

I am not conservative so much as a rabid anti-liberal.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

[Mitchell Holman]

Post by aaa

Post by Attila

Post by aaa
You
don't even bother to investigate the suggested possibilities and evidence.

Evidence doesn't need investigating if it is any good at all.

That can't be true. Scientific study is all about investigating the
evidence.

When "scientific study" DOES investigate the
evidence and concludes evolution has been verified
and even observed why do you reject it?

[Christopher A. Lee]

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Post by aaa
You
don't even bother to investigate the suggested possibilities and evidence.

Evidence doesn't need investigating if it is any good at all.

That can't be true. Scientific study is all about investigating the
evidence.

When "scientific study" DOES investigate the
evidence and concludes evolution has been verified
and even observed why do you reject it?

These morons, not just this one, imagine that just saying something is
evidence makes it so - and it doesn't need to be defended as such.

I wonder how they would fare in a court of law, or defending a thesis.

[aaa]

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Post by aaa
You
don't even bother to investigate the suggested possibilities and evidence.

Evidence doesn't need investigating if it is any good at all.

That can't be true. Scientific study is all about investigating the
evidence.

When "scientific study" DOES investigate the
evidence and concludes evolution has been verified
and even observed why do you reject it?

Because science can't study life directly. It can only interpret life
based on its observation. Its interpretation of life which is already
called evolution can't be proven by its own interpretation which is
still evolution itself. This is circular reasoning.

[aaa]

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Post by Attila
On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 10:06:38 -0500, Christopher A. Lee

On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 10:21:54 -0400, Attila

Post by Attila
On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 02:53:05 -0700 (PDT),

Vol 1. Vedas, author Krishna Vol 2. Old Testament, author
Moses Vol 3. Tao Te Ching, author Laozi Vol 4. Tripitaka,
author Buddha Vol 5. New Testament, author Jesus Vol 6.
Koran, author Muhammad Vol 7. Mormon, author Joseph Smith
A good book. Enjoy.
YHWH Allah (LORD God)

Does it include supporting evidence to prove these aren't
just lies or delusions?

And why should we give a shit about nonsense from somebody
else's religion which the imbecile knows we don't believe in
the first place, yet he posts it anyway?

It seems many of these gods demand their followers must cram
their beliefs down the throats of others no matter what anyone
else wants. Remember, at one time rather that push their
superstitions on others they simply killed them and took all of
their property.
That's how the RCC became so wealthy.

It's never about any of that.

Of course it is.

Post by aaa
Here in usenet, we only debate for the truth.

Or for amusement.

Post by aaa
If an atheist is too prejudiced to allow the truth to reign
supreme, perhaps he isn't a real atheist after all.

Without supporting evidence there can be no recognized truth. That
would describe all religions since none of them have any supporting
evidence.

Only empirical truth needs evidence. The spiritual truth is the
self-evident truth that determines all things in the universe.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary.

The things in my signature are never imaginary. In fact, they can't even
be imagined. They are not only real but also the most important things
we all want to have. Their existence is essential to us. We will always
suffer without them.

They are imaginary until they are supported by direct and unrelated
evidence.

They are already the evidence of themselves.

Nothing can provide evidence of itself.

By being what they are, they are the evidence of themselves. By being
spiritual, they are the evidence of the spiritual.

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I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary.

The spiritual existence doesn't have to be evidenced physically. It's a
higher existence than the physical existence. The physical existence is
determined by the spiritual existence instead. It is why life by being
spiritual is capable to control and change the physical world.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary. I have told you
this repeatedly yet you insist in trying to use something spiritual in
your responses to me.
Why is that? You know I am going to reject it out of hand.

Because the spiritual isn't something for you to see. It's something for
you to experience. It's not for your intellectual mind to perceive or
project. It's for your spiritual soul to be enriched and nourished
instead. The spiritual is the real deal.

[Attila]

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On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 10:06:38 -0500, Christopher A. Lee

On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 10:21:54 -0400, Attila

Post by Attila
On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 02:53:05 -0700 (PDT),

Vol 1. Vedas, author Krishna Vol 2. Old Testament, author
Moses Vol 3. Tao Te Ching, author Laozi Vol 4. Tripitaka,
author Buddha Vol 5. New Testament, author Jesus Vol 6.
Koran, author Muhammad Vol 7. Mormon, author Joseph Smith
A good book. Enjoy.
YHWH Allah (LORD God)

Does it include supporting evidence to prove these aren't
just lies or delusions?

And why should we give a shit about nonsense from somebody
else's religion which the imbecile knows we don't believe in
the first place, yet he posts it anyway?

It seems many of these gods demand their followers must cram
their beliefs down the throats of others no matter what anyone
else wants. Remember, at one time rather that push their
superstitions on others they simply killed them and took all of
their property.
That's how the RCC became so wealthy.

It's never about any of that.

Of course it is.

Post by aaa
Here in usenet, we only debate for the truth.

Or for amusement.

Post by aaa
If an atheist is too prejudiced to allow the truth to reign
supreme, perhaps he isn't a real atheist after all.

Without supporting evidence there can be no recognized truth. That
would describe all religions since none of them have any supporting
evidence.

Only empirical truth needs evidence. The spiritual truth is the
self-evident truth that determines all things in the universe.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary.

The things in my signature are never imaginary. In fact, they can't even
be imagined. They are not only real but also the most important things
we all want to have. Their existence is essential to us. We will always
suffer without them.

They are imaginary until they are supported by direct and unrelated
evidence.

They are already the evidence of themselves.

Nothing can provide evidence of itself.

By being what they are, they are the evidence of themselves.

An impossibility. Nothing can be evidence of itself beyond the simple
fact that it exists. It cannot provide evidence it is true or has
any actual meaning.

Post by aaa
By being
spiritual, they are the evidence of the spiritual.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary.

Post by aaa

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Post by aaa

Post by Attila
I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary.

The spiritual existence doesn't have to be evidenced physically. It's a
higher existence than the physical existence. The physical existence is
determined by the spiritual existence instead. It is why life by being
spiritual is capable to control and change the physical world.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary. I have told you
this repeatedly yet you insist in trying to use something spiritual in
your responses to me.
Why is that? You know I am going to reject it out of hand.

Because the spiritual isn't something for you to see. It's something for
you to experience. It's not for your intellectual mind to perceive or
project. It's for your spiritual soul to be enriched and nourished
instead. The spiritual is the real deal.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary.

I can do this indefinitely.
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

I am not conservative so much as a rabid anti-liberal.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

[aaa]

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Post by Attila
On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 10:06:38 -0500, Christopher A. Lee

On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 10:21:54 -0400, Attila

Post by Attila
On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 02:53:05 -0700 (PDT),

Vol 1. Vedas, author Krishna Vol 2. Old Testament, author
Moses Vol 3. Tao Te Ching, author Laozi Vol 4. Tripitaka,
author Buddha Vol 5. New Testament, author Jesus Vol 6.
Koran, author Muhammad Vol 7. Mormon, author Joseph Smith
A good book. Enjoy.
YHWH Allah (LORD God)

Does it include supporting evidence to prove these aren't
just lies or delusions?

And why should we give a shit about nonsense from somebody
else's religion which the imbecile knows we don't believe in
the first place, yet he posts it anyway?

It seems many of these gods demand their followers must cram
their beliefs down the throats of others no matter what anyone
else wants. Remember, at one time rather that push their
superstitions on others they simply killed them and took all of
their property.
That's how the RCC became so wealthy.

It's never about any of that.

Of course it is.

Post by aaa
Here in usenet, we only debate for the truth.

Or for amusement.

Post by aaa
If an atheist is too prejudiced to allow the truth to reign
supreme, perhaps he isn't a real atheist after all.

Without supporting evidence there can be no recognized truth. That
would describe all religions since none of them have any supporting
evidence.

Only empirical truth needs evidence. The spiritual truth is the
self-evident truth that determines all things in the universe.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary.

The things in my signature are never imaginary. In fact, they can't even
be imagined. They are not only real but also the most important things
we all want to have. Their existence is essential to us. We will always
suffer without them.

They are imaginary until they are supported by direct and unrelated
evidence.

They are already the evidence of themselves.

Nothing can provide evidence of itself.

By being what they are, they are the evidence of themselves.

An impossibility. Nothing can be evidence of itself beyond the simple
fact that it exists. It cannot provide evidence it is true or has
any actual meaning.

Why not? Water is wet. The wetness of water is self-evident. It doesn't
need to rely on anything else to prove its wetness.

Post by Attila

Post by aaa
By being
spiritual, they are the evidence of the spiritual.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary.

I have shown you the spiritual evidence with my signature. You don't
have to be so blind.

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Post by Attila

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Post by Attila
I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary.

The spiritual existence doesn't have to be evidenced physically. It's a
higher existence than the physical existence. The physical existence is
determined by the spiritual existence instead. It is why life by being
spiritual is capable to control and change the physical world.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary. I have told you
this repeatedly yet you insist in trying to use something spiritual in
your responses to me.
Why is that? You know I am going to reject it out of hand.

Because the spiritual isn't something for you to see. It's something for
you to experience. It's not for your intellectual mind to perceive or
project. It's for your spiritual soul to be enriched and nourished
instead. The spiritual is the real deal.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary.
I can do this indefinitely.

It's meaningless since I have shown you the evidence with my signature.

[Attila]

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Post by Attila
On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 10:06:38 -0500, Christopher A. Lee

On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 10:21:54 -0400, Attila

Post by Attila
On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 02:53:05 -0700 (PDT),

Vol 1. Vedas, author Krishna Vol 2. Old Testament, author
Moses Vol 3. Tao Te Ching, author Laozi Vol 4. Tripitaka,
author Buddha Vol 5. New Testament, author Jesus Vol 6.
Koran, author Muhammad Vol 7. Mormon, author Joseph Smith
A good book. Enjoy.
YHWH Allah (LORD God)

Does it include supporting evidence to prove these aren't
just lies or delusions?

And why should we give a shit about nonsense from somebody
else's religion which the imbecile knows we don't believe in
the first place, yet he posts it anyway?

It seems many of these gods demand their followers must cram
their beliefs down the throats of others no matter what anyone
else wants. Remember, at one time rather that push their
superstitions on others they simply killed them and took all of
their property.
That's how the RCC became so wealthy.

It's never about any of that.

Of course it is.

Post by aaa
Here in usenet, we only debate for the truth.

Or for amusement.

Post by aaa
If an atheist is too prejudiced to allow the truth to reign
supreme, perhaps he isn't a real atheist after all.

Without supporting evidence there can be no recognized truth. That
would describe all religions since none of them have any supporting
evidence.

Only empirical truth needs evidence. The spiritual truth is the
self-evident truth that determines all things in the universe.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary.

The things in my signature are never imaginary. In fact, they can't even
be imagined. They are not only real but also the most important things
we all want to have. Their existence is essential to us. We will always
suffer without them.

They are imaginary until they are supported by direct and unrelated
evidence.

They are already the evidence of themselves.

Nothing can provide evidence of itself.

By being what they are, they are the evidence of themselves.

An impossibility. Nothing can be evidence of itself beyond the simple
fact that it exists. It cannot provide evidence it is true or has
any actual meaning.

Why not? Water is wet. The wetness of water is self-evident. It doesn't
need to rely on anything else to prove its wetness.

Yes, it does. First define wet.

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Post by aaa
By being
spiritual, they are the evidence of the spiritual.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary.

I have shown you the spiritual evidence with my signature. You don't
have to be so blind.

The S word again.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary.

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Post by Attila
I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary.

The spiritual existence doesn't have to be evidenced physically. It's a
higher existence than the physical existence. The physical existence is
determined by the spiritual existence instead. It is why life by being
spiritual is capable to control and change the physical world.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary. I have told you
this repeatedly yet you insist in trying to use something spiritual in
your responses to me.
Why is that? You know I am going to reject it out of hand.

Because the spiritual isn't something for you to see. It's something for
you to experience. It's not for your intellectual mind to perceive or
project. It's for your spiritual soul to be enriched and nourished
instead. The spiritual is the real deal.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary.
I can do this indefinitely.

It's meaningless since I have shown you the evidence with my signature.

No, you haven't.
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

I am not conservative so much as a rabid anti-liberal.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

[aaa]

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On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 10:06:38 -0500, Christopher A. Lee

On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 10:21:54 -0400, Attila

Post by Attila
On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 02:53:05 -0700 (PDT),

Vol 1. Vedas, author Krishna Vol 2. Old Testament, author
Moses Vol 3. Tao Te Ching, author Laozi Vol 4. Tripitaka,
author Buddha Vol 5. New Testament, author Jesus Vol 6.
Koran, author Muhammad Vol 7. Mormon, author Joseph Smith
A good book. Enjoy.
YHWH Allah (LORD God)

Does it include supporting evidence to prove these aren't
just lies or delusions?

And why should we give a shit about nonsense from somebody
else's religion which the imbecile knows we don't believe in
the first place, yet he posts it anyway?

It seems many of these gods demand their followers must cram
their beliefs down the throats of others no matter what anyone
else wants. Remember, at one time rather that push their
superstitions on others they simply killed them and took all of
their property.
That's how the RCC became so wealthy.

It's never about any of that.

Of course it is.

Post by aaa
Here in usenet, we only debate for the truth.

Or for amusement.

Post by aaa
If an atheist is too prejudiced to allow the truth to reign
supreme, perhaps he isn't a real atheist after all.

Without supporting evidence there can be no recognized truth. That
would describe all religions since none of them have any supporting
evidence.

Only empirical truth needs evidence. The spiritual truth is the
self-evident truth that determines all things in the universe.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary.

The things in my signature are never imaginary. In fact, they can't even
be imagined. They are not only real but also the most important things
we all want to have. Their existence is essential to us. We will always
suffer without them.

They are imaginary until they are supported by direct and unrelated
evidence.

They are already the evidence of themselves.

Nothing can provide evidence of itself.

By being what they are, they are the evidence of themselves.

An impossibility. Nothing can be evidence of itself beyond the simple
fact that it exists. It cannot provide evidence it is true or has
any actual meaning.

Why not? Water is wet. The wetness of water is self-evident. It doesn't
need to rely on anything else to prove its wetness.

Yes, it does. First define wet.

Wet is the result of water. It's proven by water itself.

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Post by aaa
By being
spiritual, they are the evidence of the spiritual.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary.

I have shown you the spiritual evidence with my signature. You don't
have to be so blind.

The S word again.
I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary.

I understand you are ignorant of the spiritual. It's why you need to
better understand the spiritual. Is that wrong?

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I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary.

The spiritual existence doesn't have to be evidenced physically. It's a
higher existence than the physical existence. The physical existence is
determined by the spiritual existence instead. It is why life by being
spiritual is capable to control and change the physical world.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary. I have told you
this repeatedly yet you insist in trying to use something spiritual in
your responses to me.
Why is that? You know I am going to reject it out of hand.

Because the spiritual isn't something for you to see. It's something for
you to experience. It's not for your intellectual mind to perceive or
project. It's for your spiritual soul to be enriched and nourished
instead. The spiritual is the real deal.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary.
I can do this indefinitely.

It's meaningless since I have shown you the evidence with my signature.

No, you haven't.

Blind denial.

[Mitchell Holman]

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An impossibility. Nothing can be evidence of itself beyond the
simple fact that it exists. It cannot provide evidence it is true
or has any actual meaning.

Why not? Water is wet. The wetness of water is self-evident. It
doesn't need to rely on anything else to prove its wetness.

Observed evolution is self-evidenct. It doesn't
need a "second law theory" to prove itself.

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Post by aaa
By being
spiritual, they are the evidence of the spiritual.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary.

I have shown you the spiritual evidence with my signature. You don't
have to be so blind.

There is no such thing as "spiritual evidence".

[aaa]

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An impossibility. Nothing can be evidence of itself beyond the
simple fact that it exists. It cannot provide evidence it is true
or has any actual meaning.

Why not? Water is wet. The wetness of water is self-evident. It
doesn't need to rely on anything else to prove its wetness.

Observed evolution is self-evidenct. It doesn't
need a "second law theory" to prove itself.

Evolution is not observed. It's only an interpretation of what has been
observed. Such interpretation has been proven false and impossible
according to the second law of thermodynamics.

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Post by aaa
By being
spiritual, they are the evidence of the spiritual.

I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything spiritual being
real. Therefore I consider the subject imaginary.

I have shown you the spiritual evidence with my signature. You don't
have to be so blind.

There is no such thing as "spiritual evidence".

My signature proves otherwise.

[Kurt Nicklas]

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alt.atheism with message-id

Post by Y***@yahoo.com
Vol 1. Vedas, author Krishna
Vol 2. Old Testament, author Moses
Vol 3. Tao Te Ching, author Laozi
Vol 4. Tripitaka, author Buddha
Vol 5. New Testament, author Jesus
Vol 6. Koran, author Muhammad
Vol 7. Mormon, author Joseph Smith
A good book. Enjoy.
YHWH Allah
(LORD God)

Does it include supporting evidence to prove these aren't just lies or
delusions?

And why should we give a shit about nonsense from somebody else's
religion which the imbecile knows we don't believe in the first place,
yet he posts it anyway?

CHRIST opher, you obviously DO give a sh*t or you wouldn't be posting dozens of times a day in answer to believers already in your kill file.

[b***@m.nu]

Post by Y***@yahoo.com
A good book. Enjoy.
YHWH Allah
(LORD God)

Please tell me are you confused or just retarded?
Oh wait you think fairies are real, I guess that makes you both

[John Locke]

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I wonder if you ever bother to discuss anything but simply throw
insults as fast as you can?

Discuss? With you? hahaha :D Why would I waste my time? I discuss with
thinking people. That excludes you. All you can do is repeat mindless
atheist slogans.
A question a thoughtful person might ask is, what is God made of?

...no, you've go the cart before the horse...again. A thoughtful
person would ask "where is the verifiable evidence for the existence
of "God" ?" Once you've established, for a fact, that "God" exists,
then you can move on to ask what "God" is made of.

[G***@rock.com]

What is God made of?

Rock