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Police Unions Lose Bid to Keep Disciplinary Records a Secret
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Rudy Canoza
2021-02-17 04:29:35 UTC
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A federal court ruling moves New York City closer to releasing a vast trove of
records regarding police misconduct, a major milestone in a decades-long fight.

By Benjamin Weiser

Feb. 16, 2021, 8:11 p.m. ET

A federal appeals court in New York cleared the way on Tuesday for the city to
release hundreds of thousands of police disciplinary records, a major milestone
in a long and bitter political battle to open the records to public scrutiny.

The ruling by a three-judge panel, which also affects firefighters and
corrections officers, dealt a heavy blow to efforts by officers’ unions to block
the records’ release.

The decision was hailed as a victory by New York City as well as by civil
liberties groups, which have long argued that making the materials public would
make it harder for problematic officers to escape significant punishment.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/16/nyregion/nypd-discipline-records-ruling.html?action=click&module=Latest&pgtype=Homepage

This is an excellent development. The public have a right to know who the
problem cops are.
Rudy Canoza
2021-02-17 14:37:29 UTC
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Post by Rudy Canoza
A federal court ruling moves New York City closer to releasing a vast trove of
records regarding police misconduct, a major milestone in a decades-long fight.
By Benjamin Weiser
Feb. 16, 2021, 8:11 p.m. ET
A federal appeals court in New York cleared the way on Tuesday for the city to
release hundreds of thousands of police disciplinary records, a major milestone
in a long and bitter political battle to open the records to public scrutiny.
The ruling by a three-judge panel, which also affects firefighters and
corrections officers, dealt a heavy blow to efforts by officers’ unions to block
the records’ release.
The decision was hailed as a victory by New York City as well as by civil
liberties groups, which have long argued that making the materials public would
make it harder for problematic officers to escape significant punishment.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/16/nyregion/nypd-discipline-records-ruling.html?action=click&module=Latest&pgtype=Homepage
This is an excellent development. The public have a right to know who the
problem cops are.
Meanwhile, Minneapolis has backtracked on it's 'defund the police'
stupidity.
No, Kirsten.
Rudy Canoza
2021-02-17 14:37:29 UTC
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Post by Rudy Canoza
A federal court ruling moves New York City closer to releasing a vast trove of
records regarding police misconduct, a major milestone in a decades-long fight.
By Benjamin Weiser
Feb. 16, 2021, 8:11 p.m. ET
A federal appeals court in New York cleared the way on Tuesday for the city to
release hundreds of thousands of police disciplinary records, a major milestone
in a long and bitter political battle to open the records to public scrutiny.
The ruling by a three-judge panel, which also affects firefighters and
corrections officers, dealt a heavy blow to efforts by officers’ unions to block
the records’ release.
The decision was hailed as a victory by New York City as well as by civil
liberties groups, which have long argued that making the materials public would
make it harder for problematic officers to escape significant punishment.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/16/nyregion/nypd-discipline-records-ruling.html?action=click&module=Latest&pgtype=Homepage
This is an excellent development. The public have a right to know who the
problem cops are.
Meanwhile, Minneapolis has backtracked on it's 'defund the police'
stupidity.
No, Kirsten.
Ted
2021-02-17 15:01:55 UTC
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Post by Rudy Canoza
A federal court ruling moves New York City closer to releasing a vast trove of
records regarding police misconduct, a major milestone in a
decades-long fight.
Post by Rudy Canoza
By Benjamin Weiser
Feb. 16, 2021, 8:11 p.m. ET
A federal appeals court in New York cleared the way on Tuesday for the city to
release hundreds of thousands of police disciplinary records, a major milestone
in a long and bitter political battle to open the records to public scrutiny.
The ruling by a three-judge panel, which also affects firefighters and
corrections officers, dealt a heavy blow to efforts by officers
unions to block
Post by Rudy Canoza
the records release.
The decision was hailed as a victory by New York City as well as by civil
liberties groups, which have long argued that making the materials public would
make it harder for problematic officers to escape significant
punishment.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/16/nyregion/nypd-discipline-records-rul
ing.html?action=click&module=Latest&pgtype=Homepage
Post by Rudy Canoza
This is an excellent development. The
public have a right to know who the
problem cops are.
The fuckers regularly get away with murder.
Cloud Hobbit
2021-02-19 21:09:54 UTC
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Post by Rudy Canoza
Post by Rudy Canoza
A federal court ruling moves New York City closer to releasing a
vast trove of
Post by Rudy Canoza
records regarding police misconduct, a major milestone in a
decades-long fight.
Post by Rudy Canoza
By Benjamin Weiser
Feb. 16, 2021, 8:11 p.m. ET
A federal appeals court in New York cleared the way on Tuesday for
the city to
Post by Rudy Canoza
release hundreds of thousands of police disciplinary records, a
major milestone
Post by Rudy Canoza
in a long and bitter political battle to open the records to public
scrutiny.
Post by Rudy Canoza
The ruling by a three-judge panel, which also affects firefighters
and
Post by Rudy Canoza
corrections officers, dealt a heavy blow to efforts by officers
unions to block
Post by Rudy Canoza
the records release.
The decision was hailed as a victory by New York City as well as by
civil
Post by Rudy Canoza
liberties groups, which have long argued that making the materials
public would
Post by Rudy Canoza
make it harder for problematic officers to escape significant
punishment.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/16/nyregion/nypd-discipline-records-rul
ing.html?action=click&module=Latest&pgtype=Homepage
Post by Rudy Canoza
This is an excellent development. The
public have a right to know who the
problem cops are.
The fuckers regularly get away with murder.
They seem to forget that they are public servants
and what they do on the job is everyone's business.

It's a rough job being a cop on the street or
A homicide cop, seeing the depths that human beings can sink
to and how sick some of them are. Has to be
depressing.

Perhaps it would be better if one could only
be on the street for a limited time and then
switch to some other less depressing, less hopeless
types of police work.

The bottom line seems to be that very few
officers cross the line into murder of suspects.

That doesn't excuse anything and it doesn't mean
that the problems are all minor.

Not enough people question the laws we are supposed
to obey and ask "why this law?" Who is being affected?

I think there needs to be a much bigger effort
to get people to understand what the Constitution
is all about and especially the bits that the founders
Did not prohibit.

Xenophobia, is what triggers so much of the evil
that has stained our history. Too many people
expect things to stay the way they are and never change.

That way leads to madness.
Ted
2021-02-19 21:47:42 UTC
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On Fri, 19 Feb 2021 13:09:54 -0800 (PST), Cloud Hobbit
Post by Cloud Hobbit
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 20:29:35 -0800, Rudy Canoza
Post by Rudy Canoza
A federal court ruling moves New York City closer to releasing a
vast trove of
Post by Rudy Canoza
records regarding police misconduct, a major milestone in a
decades-long fight.
Post by Rudy Canoza
By Benjamin Weiser
Feb. 16, 2021, 8:11 p.m. ET
A federal appeals court in New York cleared the way on Tuesday for
the city to
Post by Rudy Canoza
release hundreds of thousands of police disciplinary records, a
major milestone
Post by Rudy Canoza
in a long and bitter political battle to open the records to public
scrutiny.
Post by Rudy Canoza
The ruling by a three-judge panel, which also affects
firefighters
Post by Cloud Hobbit
and
Post by Rudy Canoza
corrections officers, dealt a heavy blow to efforts by officers
unions to block
Post by Rudy Canoza
the records release.
The decision was hailed as a victory by New York City as well as by
civil
Post by Rudy Canoza
liberties groups, which have long argued that making the
materials
Post by Cloud Hobbit
public would
Post by Rudy Canoza
make it harder for problematic officers to escape significant
punishment.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/16/nyregion/nypd-discipline-records-rul
Post by Cloud Hobbit
ing.html?action=click&module=Latest&pgtype=Homepage
Post by Rudy Canoza
This is an excellent development. The
public have a right to know who the
problem cops are.
The fuckers regularly get away with murder.
They seem to forget that they are public servants
and what they do on the job is everyone's business.
It's a rough job being a cop on the street or
A homicide cop, seeing the depths that human beings can sink
to and how sick some of them are. Has to be
depressing.
Perhaps it would be better if one could only
be on the street for a limited time and then
switch to some other less depressing, less hopeless
types of police work.
The bottom line seems to be that very few
officers cross the line into murder of suspects.
That doesn't excuse anything and it doesn't mean
that the problems are all minor.
Not enough people question the laws we are supposed
to obey and ask "why this law?" Who is being affected?
I think there needs to be a much bigger effort
to get people to understand what the Constitution
is all about and especially the bits that the founders
Did not prohibit.
Xenophobia, is what triggers so much of
the evil
that has stained our history. Too many
people
expect things to stay the way they are and
never change.
That way leads to madness.
Well said, Cloud, thank you.

Ted
2021-02-17 15:01:55 UTC
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Post by Rudy Canoza
A federal court ruling moves New York City closer to releasing a vast trove of
records regarding police misconduct, a major milestone in a
decades-long fight.
Post by Rudy Canoza
By Benjamin Weiser
Feb. 16, 2021, 8:11 p.m. ET
A federal appeals court in New York cleared the way on Tuesday for the city to
release hundreds of thousands of police disciplinary records, a major milestone
in a long and bitter political battle to open the records to public scrutiny.
The ruling by a three-judge panel, which also affects firefighters and
corrections officers, dealt a heavy blow to efforts by officers
unions to block
Post by Rudy Canoza
the records release.
The decision was hailed as a victory by New York City as well as by civil
liberties groups, which have long argued that making the materials public would
make it harder for problematic officers to escape significant
punishment.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/16/nyregion/nypd-discipline-records-rul
ing.html?action=click&module=Latest&pgtype=Homepage
Post by Rudy Canoza
This is an excellent development. The
public have a right to know who the
problem cops are.
The fuckers regularly get away with murder.
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