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In the Name of Jesus
2024-12-10 21:27:01 UTC
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Well, it is—under the sun.

How is it a lie?

A lie is the promise of something being true.

Everything in this world is a lie, merely a promise of fulfilment and
satisfaction. However, fulfilment and satisfaction wouldn't even be a
thing if it were not possible. Right?

How is it possible?

All things are possible with God, but with you and your vain,
self-serving striving, nothing is possible, religious or otherwise.

Ecc 1:14  I have seen all the works that are done under the sun; and,
behold, all is vanity and vexation of spirit.

Chasing the wind, all of what you see and what you do in this world is
chasing the wind. It is obvious, isn't it? Look at the pyramids—all that
effort, crumbling.

And for you religious types, God does not need your (or mine) help.

But even with wisdom under the sun, it is just as futile as stupidity.
There is only one place you'll find fulfilment and satisfaction, and
that is in the Lord Jesus Christ Himself, not in a bible, or a religion,
or in people, or in worldly or religious best practices.

If you want to escape the vanity, it is to be with Him.

The poor rich young ruler.



In the Name of Jesus
--
God is God in all His Being. All the glory is His, for He is all glory.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything, He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free, and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

"The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence or proof is to be found."

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not so that a book could pass
through it for a sinner to play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: a man full of bluster and bullshit in his
meaninglessness pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

"What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence."

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God; God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

"But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."

"That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that
light did not ever become darkness."

"You must reach beyond the bible that tells you about Him, and into your
daily life to find Him in Person. He's there."

"What is wrong with Christendom? False understanding based on compromise."

"It is not in man to love his enemies. And if he tries, he is walking in
a lie and trying to raise himself up to the level of God."

"God has to be quiet now; we have our bible. Well, then, who is going to
speak?"

"It is all about the Lord in His glory and whether a man loves Him with
all for who He is."

"A son of God became the bible when he was born again because the Holy
Spirit took up residence in his heart as Lord."

"The veil of the temple was not rent in twain so that a bible could pass
as God."
Gronk
2024-12-11 05:48:27 UTC
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Well, it is—under the sun.
How is it a lie?
A lie is the promise of something being true.
Everything in this world is a lie, merely a promise of fulfilment and
satisfaction. However, fulfilment and satisfaction wouldn't even be a
thing if it were not possible. Right?
“Properly read, the Bible is the most potent
force for atheism ever conceived.”
― Isaac Asimov
In the Name of Jesus
2024-12-11 06:26:56 UTC
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Post by In the Name of Jesus
Well, it is—under the sun.
How is it a lie?
A lie is the promise of something being true.
Everything in this world is a lie, merely a promise of fulfilment and
satisfaction. However, fulfilment and satisfaction wouldn't even be a
thing if it were not possible. Right?
“Properly read, the Bible is the most potent
force for atheism ever conceived.”
― Isaac Asimov
And he is still trying to win! :-).




In the beginning, God, God eternal
--
God is God in all His Being. All the glory is His, for He is all glory.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything, He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free, and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

"The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence or proof is to be found."

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not so that a book could pass
through it for a sinner to play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: a man full of bluster and bullshit in his
meaninglessness pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

"What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence."

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God; God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

"But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."

"That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that
light did not ever become darkness."

"You must reach beyond the bible that tells you about Him, and into your
daily life to find Him in Person. He's there."

"What is wrong with Christendom? False understanding based on compromise."

"It is not in man to love his enemies. And if he tries, he is walking in
a lie and trying to raise himself up to the level of God."

"God has to be quiet now; we have our bible. Well, then, who is going to
speak?"

"It is all about the Lord in His glory and whether a man loves Him with
all for who He is."

"A son of God became the bible when he was born again because the Holy
Spirit took up residence in his heart as Lord."

"The veil of the temple was not rent in twain so that a bible could pass
as God."
Gronk
2024-12-17 05:51:30 UTC
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Well, it is—under the sun.
How is it a lie?
A lie is the promise of something being true.
Everything in this world is a lie, merely a promise of fulfilment and
satisfaction. However, fulfilment and satisfaction wouldn't even be a
thing if it were not possible. Right?
“Properly read, the Bible is the most potent
force for atheism ever conceived.”
― Isaac Asimov
And he is still trying to win! :-).
It means people are still not properly reading this
bible :-}
Mitchell Holman
2024-12-18 02:31:02 UTC
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Well, it is—under the sun.
How is it a lie?
A lie is the promise of something being true.
Everything in this world is a lie, merely a promise of fulfilment and
satisfaction. However, fulfilment and satisfaction wouldn't even be a
thing if it were not possible. Right?
“Properly read, the Bible is the most potent
force for atheism ever conceived.”
― Isaac Asimov
And he is still trying to win! :-).
It means people are still not properly reading this
bible :-}
The Bible needs to be properly read.


"Properly read, the Bible is the most
potent force for atheism ever devised"
- Isaac Asimov -
Siri Cruise
2024-12-18 02:44:15 UTC
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The Bible needs to be properly read.
"Properly read, the Bible is the most
potent force for atheism ever devised"
What? It clearly states your subject to whims you can expect to
control or understand (Job). You shout your anger into the night
(Ecclesiastes). Or believe those whims are benevolent (lilies of
the field).

Your choices are clear. So choose.
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Dawn Flood
2024-12-18 08:35:48 UTC
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    The Bible needs to be properly read.
"Properly read, the Bible is the most
potent force for atheism ever devised"
What? It clearly states your subject to whims you can expect to control
or understand (Job). You shout your anger into the night (Ecclesiastes).
Or believe those whims are benevolent (lilies of the field).
Your choices are clear. So choose.
Choose what? What are my choices here??

Dawn
Gronk
2024-12-23 06:09:37 UTC
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    The Bible needs to be properly read.
"Properly read, the Bible is the most
potent force for atheism ever devised"
What? It clearly states your subject to whims you can expect to
control or understand (Job). You shout your anger into the night
(Ecclesiastes). Or believe those whims are benevolent (lilies of the
field).
Your choices are clear. So choose.
Choose what?  What are my choices here??
Choose! Choose the form of the Destructor!
Siri Cruise
2024-12-23 10:34:25 UTC
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Post by Siri Cruise
    The Bible needs to be properly read.
"Properly read, the Bible is the most
potent force for atheism ever devised"
What? It clearly states your subject to whims you can expect to
control or understand (Job). You shout your anger into the
night (Ecclesiastes). Or believe those whims are benevolent
(lilies of the field).
Your choices are clear. So choose.
Choose what?  What are my choices here??
Choose! Choose the form of the Destructor!
Not all Destructors are scaly, fire breathing beasts. A fluffy
white rabbit can be a Destructor.

Nothing can so destroy a man's facades of wealth and assurance as
the gentle voice of an angel, softly spoken.
--
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'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
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Dawn Flood
2024-12-23 14:27:13 UTC
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    The Bible needs to be properly read.
"Properly read, the Bible is the most
potent force for atheism ever devised"
What? It clearly states your subject to whims you can expect to
control or understand (Job). You shout your anger into the night
(Ecclesiastes). Or believe those whims are benevolent (lilies of the
field).
Your choices are clear. So choose.
Choose what?  What are my choices here??
Choose! Choose the form of the Destructor!
Not all Destructors are scaly, fire breathing beasts. A fluffy white
rabbit can be a Destructor.
Nothing can so destroy a man's facades of wealth and assurance as the
gentle voice of an angel, softly spoken.
When a large, anonymous amount shows up in my PayPal, then, maybe, I
will begin to believe!

Dawn
Baxter
2024-12-18 02:53:03 UTC
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Well, it is—under the sun.
How is it a lie?
A lie is the promise of something being true.
Everything in this world is a lie, merely a promise of fulfilment
and satisfaction. However, fulfilment and satisfaction wouldn't
even be a thing if it were not possible. Right?
“Properly read, the Bible is the most potent
force for atheism ever conceived.”
― Isaac Asimov
And he is still trying to win! :-).
It means people are still not properly reading this
bible :-}
The Bible needs to be properly read.
That's what the Church has been saying for near 2,000 years. For a long
time, only priests were allowed to read it, then the printing press came
along.
Post by Mitchell Holman
"Properly read, the Bible is the most
potent force for atheism ever devised"
- Isaac Asimov -
Gronk
2024-12-23 06:08:19 UTC
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Well, it is—under the sun.
How is it a lie?
A lie is the promise of something being true.
Everything in this world is a lie, merely a promise of fulfilment
and satisfaction. However, fulfilment and satisfaction wouldn't
even be a thing if it were not possible. Right?
“Properly read, the Bible is the most potent
force for atheism ever conceived.”
― Isaac Asimov
And he is still trying to win! :-).
It means people are still not properly reading this
bible :-}
The Bible needs to be properly read.
That's what the Church has been saying for near 2,000 years. For a long
time, only priests were allowed to read it, then the printing press came
along.
And that's because it was in Latin which
the populace couldn't read.
Post by Baxter
Post by Mitchell Holman
"Properly read, the Bible is the most
potent force for atheism ever devised"
- Isaac Asimov -
Siri Cruise
2024-12-23 09:52:42 UTC
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Post by Baxter
That's what the Church has been saying for near 2,000 years.
For a long
time, only priests were allowed to read it, then the printing
press came
along.
And that's because it was in Latin which
the populace couldn't read.
It was earlier in Greek, Coptic, Aramaic, and Hebrew which the
populace could read.
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Gronk
2024-12-29 06:23:36 UTC
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That's what the Church has been saying for near 2,000 years. For a long
time, only priests were allowed to read it, then the printing press came
along.
And that's because it was in Latin which
the populace couldn't read.
It was earlier in Greek, Coptic, Aramaic, and Hebrew which the populace
could read.
But that was less organized. Took the Europeans
to see the potential for population control.
Baxter
2024-12-23 15:39:30 UTC
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Well, it is—under the sun.
How is it a lie?
A lie is the promise of something being true.
Everything in this world is a lie, merely a promise of fulfilment
and satisfaction. However, fulfilment and satisfaction wouldn't
even be a thing if it were not possible. Right?
“Properly read, the Bible is the most potent
force for atheism ever conceived.”
― Isaac Asimov
And he is still trying to win! :-).
It means people are still not properly reading this
bible :-}
The Bible needs to be properly read.
That's what the Church has been saying for near 2,000 years. For a long
time, only priests were allowed to read it, then the printing press came
along.
And that's because it was in Latin which
the populace couldn't read.
Actually, the general populace couldn't read ANY language. And there
were Greek versions right soon too.
Governor Swill
2025-01-01 09:47:58 UTC
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That's what the Church has been saying for near 2,000 years. For a long
time, only priests were allowed to read it, then the printing press came
along.
You've got your numbers wrong.

"The Church" has not existed for 2000 years.

Some basic info:

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Catholic_Church>

The Roman Catholic Church has existed perhaps 1700 years.

The Greek Orthodox about the same time.

Both have their roots in early Christianity, both are heavily ceremonial,
neither wanted the plebes to read the actual Bible whether in Latin or the
original Greek (in which the New Testament is written) or Hebrew (in which the
far older Old Testament is written).

Allowing the plebes to read the Bible and decide for themselves what to believe
was the primary point of contention during the Protestant Reformation which
conflict defines European history in both the sixteenth and seventeenth
centuries.

Religion stopped being a reason for war in 1648 after the Thirty Years War laid
waste to most of central Europe.
--
Been saying since last spring, "let the voters decide."

Well, they did. Get over it.
Baxter
2025-01-01 15:46:28 UTC
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Post by Baxter
That's what the Church has been saying for near 2,000 years. For a
long time, only priests were allowed to read it, then the printing
press came along.
You've got your numbers wrong.
"The Church" has not existed for 2000 years.
That depends on how you define "The Church". In the Americas and most of
western europe, the Catholic Church defines, and has defined, itself as
"The Church"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Catholic_Church>
The Roman Catholic Church has existed perhaps 1700 years.
The Greek Orthodox about the same time.
Both have their roots in early Christianity, both are heavily
ceremonial, neither wanted the plebes to read the actual Bible whether
in Latin or the original Greek (in which the New Testament is written)
or Hebrew (in which the far older Old Testament is written).
Allowing the plebes to read the Bible and decide for themselves what
to believe was the primary point of contention during the Protestant
Reformation which conflict defines European history in both the
sixteenth and seventeenth centuries.
Religion stopped being a reason for war in 1648 after the Thirty Years
War laid waste to most of central Europe.
None of that negates what I posted.
Attila
2025-01-02 09:41:05 UTC
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On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 02:53:03 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
That's what the Church has been saying for near 2,000 years. For a
long time, only priests were allowed to read it, then the printing
press came along.
You've got your numbers wrong.
"The Church" has not existed for 2000 years.
That depends on how you define "The Church". In the Americas and most of
western europe, the Catholic Church defines, and has defined, itself as
"The Church"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Catholic_Church>
The Roman Catholic Church has existed perhaps 1700 years.
The Greek Orthodox about the same time.
Both have their roots in early Christianity, both are heavily
ceremonial, neither wanted the plebes to read the actual Bible whether
in Latin or the original Greek (in which the New Testament is written)
or Hebrew (in which the far older Old Testament is written).
Allowing the plebes to read the Bible and decide for themselves what
to believe was the primary point of contention during the Protestant
Reformation which conflict defines European history in both the
sixteenth and seventeenth centuries.
Religion stopped being a reason for war in 1648 after the Thirty Years
War laid waste to most of central Europe.
None of that negates what I posted.
Religion is behind the war going on in Israel today.
--
List of anti-American organizations:

Al-Qaeda
HAMAS
Hezbollah
ISIS
Communist Party
Democratic Party
Antifa

Build a wall.
Deport them all.

All politicians are trained to lie
and make those lies sound like
the truth. They start with the biggest
lie of all: Politicians are public
servants.

DEI DEATH CERTIFICATE

Date - Jan 20, 2025
Time - 12:00 Noon

Date - Jan 20, 2025
Time - 12:15 PM

"Joe who?"
In the Name of Jesus
2025-01-03 02:57:35 UTC
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Post by Attila
On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 15:46:28 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 02:53:03 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
That's what the Church has been saying for near 2,000 years. For a
long time, only priests were allowed to read it, then the printing
press came along.
You've got your numbers wrong.
"The Church" has not existed for 2000 years.
That depends on how you define "The Church". In the Americas and most of
western europe, the Catholic Church defines, and has defined, itself as
"The Church"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Catholic_Church>
The Roman Catholic Church has existed perhaps 1700 years.
The Greek Orthodox about the same time.
Both have their roots in early Christianity, both are heavily
ceremonial, neither wanted the plebes to read the actual Bible whether
in Latin or the original Greek (in which the New Testament is written)
or Hebrew (in which the far older Old Testament is written).
Allowing the plebes to read the Bible and decide for themselves what
to believe was the primary point of contention during the Protestant
Reformation which conflict defines European history in both the
sixteenth and seventeenth centuries.
Religion stopped being a reason for war in 1648 after the Thirty Years
War laid waste to most of central Europe.
None of that negates what I posted.
Religion is behind the war going on in Israel today.
And so, no religion and all mankind will live in peace and harmony.

Can I get an amen?

Atheists are such shallow ignorant dickheads and they think they are
intelligence personified. :-).




In the Name of Jesus
--
God is God in all His Being. All the glory is His, for He is all glory.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything, He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free, and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

"The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence or proof is to be found."

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not so that a book could pass
through it for a sinner to play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: a man full of bluster and bullshit in his
meaninglessness pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

"What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence."

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God; God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

"But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."

"That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that
light did not ever become darkness."

"You must reach beyond the bible that tells you about Him, and into your
daily life to find Him in Person. He's there."

"What is wrong with Christendom? False understanding based on compromise."

"It is not in man to love his enemies. And if he tries, he is walking in
a lie and trying to raise himself up to the level of God."

"God has to be quiet now; we have our bible. Well, then, who is going to
speak?"

"It is all about the Lord in His glory and whether a man loves Him with
all for who He is."

"A son of God became the bible when he was born again because the Holy
Spirit took up residence in his heart as Lord."

"The veil of the temple was not rent in twain so that a bible could pass
as God."

"It is dreadfully difficult for religious people to repent of all they
are as they have spent their whole lives reinforcing to themselves that
they are "good sinners."
Peter Steele
2025-01-03 03:31:46 UTC
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Post by Attila
On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 15:46:28 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 02:53:03 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
That's what the Church has been saying for near 2,000 years.  For a
long time, only priests were allowed to read it, then the printing
press came along.
You've got your numbers wrong.
"The Church" has not existed for 2000 years.
That depends on how you define "The Church". In the Americas and most of
western europe, the Catholic Church defines, and has defined, itself as
"The Church"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Catholic_Church>
The Roman Catholic Church has existed perhaps 1700 years.
The Greek Orthodox about the same time.
Both have their roots in early Christianity, both are heavily
ceremonial, neither wanted the plebes to read the actual Bible whether
in Latin or the original Greek (in which the New Testament is written)
or Hebrew (in which the far older Old Testament is written).
Allowing the plebes to read the Bible and decide for themselves what
to believe was the primary point of contention during the Protestant
Reformation which conflict defines European history in both the
sixteenth and seventeenth centuries.
Religion stopped being a reason for war in 1648 after the Thirty Years
War laid waste to most of central Europe.
None of that negates what I posted.
Religion is behind the war going on in Israel today.
And so, no religion and all mankind will live in peace and harmony.
Can I get an amen?
Atheists are such shallow ignorant dickheads and they think they are
intelligence personified. :-).
It's the same with all atheists. They are all exact cookie cutouts of
some guy you are arguing with in a.a..
In the Name of Jesus
2025-01-04 03:57:53 UTC
Reply
Permalink
Post by In the Name of Jesus
Post by Attila
On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 15:46:28 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 02:53:03 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
That's what the Church has been saying for near 2,000 years.  For a
long time, only priests were allowed to read it, then the printing
press came along.
You've got your numbers wrong.
"The Church" has not existed for 2000 years.
That depends on how you define "The Church". In the Americas and most of
western europe, the Catholic Church defines, and has defined, itself as
"The Church"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Catholic_Church>
The Roman Catholic Church has existed perhaps 1700 years.
The Greek Orthodox about the same time.
Both have their roots in early Christianity, both are heavily
ceremonial, neither wanted the plebes to read the actual Bible whether
in Latin or the original Greek (in which the New Testament is written)
or Hebrew (in which the far older Old Testament is written).
Allowing the plebes to read the Bible and decide for themselves what
to believe was the primary point of contention during the Protestant
Reformation which conflict defines European history in both the
sixteenth and seventeenth centuries.
Religion stopped being a reason for war in 1648 after the Thirty Years
War laid waste to most of central Europe.
None of that negates what I posted.
Religion is behind the war going on in Israel today.
And so, no religion and all mankind will live in peace and harmony.
Can I get an amen?
Atheists are such shallow ignorant dickheads and they think they are
intelligence personified. :-).
It's the same with all atheists.  They are all exact cookie cutouts of
some guy you are arguing with in a.a..
Don't you mean kookie cutouts?




In the Name of Jesus
--
God is God in all His Being. All the glory is His, for He is all glory.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything, He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free, and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

"The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence or proof is to be found."

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not so that a book could pass
through it for a sinner to play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: a man full of bluster and bullshit in his
meaninglessness pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

"What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence."

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God; God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

"But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."

"That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that
light did not ever become darkness."

"You must reach beyond the bible that tells you about Him, and into your
daily life to find Him in Person. He's there."

"What is wrong with Christendom? False understanding based on compromise."

"It is not in man to love his enemies. And if he tries, he is walking in
a lie and trying to raise himself up to the level of God."

"God has to be quiet now; we have our bible. Well, then, who is going to
speak?"

"It is all about the Lord in His glory and whether a man loves Him with
all for who He is."

"A son of God became the bible when he was born again because the Holy
Spirit took up residence in his heart as Lord."

"The veil of the temple was not rent in twain so that a bible could pass
as God."

"It is dreadfully difficult for religious people to repent of all they
are as they have spent their whole lives reinforcing to themselves that
they are "good sinners."
In the Name of Jesus
2025-01-05 02:42:34 UTC
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On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 14:57:53 +1100
This assertion raises a critical point about spiritual perception. It suggests that understanding the divine nature of Jesus is not merely an intellectual exercise but a transformative experience.
Post by In the Name of Jesus
"Compromise will condemn you."
This resonates deeply in a world where moral relativism often queues up to challenge absolute truths. The vibratos of faith must not be groped or diluted by societal pressures.
Post by In the Name of Jesus
"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."
This is a bold claim that invites scrutiny.
It is merely a truth reality.
Can we truly accept that truth exists independently of our understanding?
Truth is not concerned about that, Buddy.




In the Name of Jesus



It seems to me that the epiglottises of belief and reason must
harmonize, not clash.
Ultimately, the journey of faith is about aligning our will with a higher purpose, not merely adhering to dogma.
--
God is God in all His Being. All the glory is His, for He is all glory.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything, He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free, and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

"The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence or proof is to be found."

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not so that a book could pass
through it for a sinner to play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: a man full of bluster and bullshit in his
meaninglessness pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

"What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence."

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God; God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

"But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."

"That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that
light did not ever become darkness."

"You must reach beyond the bible that tells you about Him, and into your
daily life to find Him in Person. He's there."

"What is wrong with Christendom? False understanding based on compromise."

"It is not in man to love his enemies. And if he tries, he is walking in
a lie and trying to raise himself up to the level of God."

"God has to be quiet now; we have our bible. Well, then, who is going to
speak?"

"It is all about the Lord in His glory and whether a man loves Him with
all for who He is."

"A son of God became the bible when he was born again because the Holy
Spirit took up residence in his heart as Lord."

"The veil of the temple was not rent in twain so that a bible could pass
as God."

"It is dreadfully difficult for religious people to repent of all they
are as they have spent their whole lives reinforcing to themselves that
they are "good sinners."
Attila
2025-01-03 11:33:26 UTC
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On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 15:46:28 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 02:53:03 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
That's what the Church has been saying for near 2,000 years. For a
long time, only priests were allowed to read it, then the printing
press came along.
You've got your numbers wrong.
"The Church" has not existed for 2000 years.
That depends on how you define "The Church". In the Americas and most of
western europe, the Catholic Church defines, and has defined, itself as
"The Church"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Catholic_Church>
The Roman Catholic Church has existed perhaps 1700 years.
The Greek Orthodox about the same time.
Both have their roots in early Christianity, both are heavily
ceremonial, neither wanted the plebes to read the actual Bible whether
in Latin or the original Greek (in which the New Testament is written)
or Hebrew (in which the far older Old Testament is written).
Allowing the plebes to read the Bible and decide for themselves what
to believe was the primary point of contention during the Protestant
Reformation which conflict defines European history in both the
sixteenth and seventeenth centuries.
Religion stopped being a reason for war in 1648 after the Thirty Years
War laid waste to most of central Europe.
None of that negates what I posted.
Religion is behind the war going on in Israel today.
And so, no religion and all mankind will live in peace and harmony.
No. Some other substitute would be found.
Post by In the Name of Jesus
Can I get an amen?
No.
Post by In the Name of Jesus
Atheists are such shallow ignorant dickheads and they think they are
intelligence personified. :-).
In the Name of Jesus
--
List of anti-American organizations:

Al-Qaeda
HAMAS
Hezbollah
ISIS
Communist Party
Democratic Party
Antifa

Build a wall.
Deport them all.

All politicians are trained to lie
and make those lies sound like
the truth. They start with the biggest
lie of all: Politicians are public
servants.

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Time - 12:00 Noon

Date - Jan 20, 2025
Time - 12:15 PM

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Baxter
2025-01-03 15:49:44 UTC
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Religion is behind the war going on in Israel today.
And so, no religion and all mankind will live in peace and harmony.
No. Some other substitute would be found.
They would have to find some other excuse. Religion makes it easy.
Siri Cruise
2025-01-03 17:44:01 UTC
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Religion is behind the war going on in Israel today.
And so, no religion and all mankind will live in peace and harmony.
No. Some other substitute would be found.
They would have to find some other excuse. Religion makes it easy.
Religion gives a false sense of superiority.
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Baxter
2025-01-03 21:29:38 UTC
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Religion is behind the war going on in Israel today.
And so, no religion and all mankind will live in peace and harmony.
No. Some other substitute would be found.
They would have to find some other excuse. Religion makes it easy.
Religion gives a false sense of superiority.
Our god is greater and more powerful than your god.
Peter Steele
2025-01-04 07:50:03 UTC
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Post by In the Name of Jesus
Post by Attila
Religion is behind the war going on in Israel today.
And so, no religion and all mankind will live in peace and harmony.
No. Some other substitute would be found.
They would have to find some other excuse. Religion makes it easy.
Religion gives a false sense of superiority.
Our god is greater and more powerful than your god.
I just forgot how to tie my shoes and brush my teeth. Everything I know
is wrong. I'm not potty trained anymore either. Want some shit?
In the Name of Jesus
2025-01-04 03:59:42 UTC
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On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 15:46:28 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 02:53:03 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
That's what the Church has been saying for near 2,000 years. For a
long time, only priests were allowed to read it, then the printing
press came along.
You've got your numbers wrong.
"The Church" has not existed for 2000 years.
That depends on how you define "The Church". In the Americas and most of
western europe, the Catholic Church defines, and has defined, itself as
"The Church"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Catholic_Church>
The Roman Catholic Church has existed perhaps 1700 years.
The Greek Orthodox about the same time.
Both have their roots in early Christianity, both are heavily
ceremonial, neither wanted the plebes to read the actual Bible whether
in Latin or the original Greek (in which the New Testament is written)
or Hebrew (in which the far older Old Testament is written).
Allowing the plebes to read the Bible and decide for themselves what
to believe was the primary point of contention during the Protestant
Reformation which conflict defines European history in both the
sixteenth and seventeenth centuries.
Religion stopped being a reason for war in 1648 after the Thirty Years
War laid waste to most of central Europe.
None of that negates what I posted.
Religion is behind the war going on in Israel today.
And so, no religion and all mankind will live in peace and harmony.
No. Some other substitute would be found.
What we need is to get rid of all religion and only have atheists and
then the world would be as wonderful and as right as they are.





In the Name of Jesus
Post by Attila
Post by In the Name of Jesus
Can I get an amen?
No.
Post by In the Name of Jesus
Atheists are such shallow ignorant dickheads and they think they are
intelligence personified. :-).
In the Name of Jesus
--
God is God in all His Being. All the glory is His, for He is all glory.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything, He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free, and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

"The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence or proof is to be found."

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not so that a book could pass
through it for a sinner to play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: a man full of bluster and bullshit in his
meaninglessness pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

"What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence."

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God; God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

"But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."

"That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that
light did not ever become darkness."

"You must reach beyond the bible that tells you about Him, and into your
daily life to find Him in Person. He's there."

"What is wrong with Christendom? False understanding based on compromise."

"It is not in man to love his enemies. And if he tries, he is walking in
a lie and trying to raise himself up to the level of God."

"God has to be quiet now; we have our bible. Well, then, who is going to
speak?"

"It is all about the Lord in His glory and whether a man loves Him with
all for who He is."

"A son of God became the bible when he was born again because the Holy
Spirit took up residence in his heart as Lord."

"The veil of the temple was not rent in twain so that a bible could pass
as God."

"It is dreadfully difficult for religious people to repent of all they
are as they have spent their whole lives reinforcing to themselves that
they are "good sinners."
Governor Swill
2025-01-02 12:11:36 UTC
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Post by Baxter
That's what the Church has been saying for near 2,000 years. For a
long time, only priests were allowed to read it, then the printing
press came along.
You've got your numbers wrong.
"The Church" has not existed for 2000 years.
That depends on how you define "The Church". In the Americas and most of
western europe, the Catholic Church defines, and has defined, itself as
"The Church"
All churches do that. I haven't seen one yet that didn't think they had the
only valid road map to Heaven. :)

Anyway, what's a couple of centuries across the millennia? lol
Post by Baxter
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Catholic_Church>
The Roman Catholic Church has existed perhaps 1700 years.
The Greek Orthodox about the same time.
Both have their roots in early Christianity, both are heavily
ceremonial, neither wanted the plebes to read the actual Bible whether
in Latin or the original Greek (in which the New Testament is written)
or Hebrew (in which the far older Old Testament is written).
Allowing the plebes to read the Bible and decide for themselves what
to believe was the primary point of contention during the Protestant
Reformation which conflict defines European history in both the
sixteenth and seventeenth centuries.
Religion stopped being a reason for war in 1648 after the Thirty Years
War laid waste to most of central Europe.
None of that negates what I posted.
Wasn't intended to. Was intended to add to what you wrote - I'm a history guy,
especially the 16th in western Europe.

Most folks don't realize WWI and II were garden parties compared to the
devastation of the Thirty Years' War in the 17th. Nearly a third of Europe
perished, mostly in central Europe. Hunger reigned for decades as troop
movements back and forth around the continent caused crops to be stolen by
armies or destroyed in battles.

NP: Go West - One Way Street
--
Been saying since last spring, "let the voters decide."

Well, they did. Get over it.
Chris Ahlstrom
2025-01-02 12:48:35 UTC
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<snip>
Most folks don't realize WWI and II were garden parties compared to the
devastation of the Thirty Years' War in the 17th. Nearly a third of Europe
perished, mostly in central Europe. Hunger reigned for decades as troop
movements ...
You'd think they could be turned into fertilizer.
...back and forth around the continent caused crops to be stolen by
armies or destroyed in battles.


Randy Newman - Political Science (Let's Drop the Big One Now)
--
Ho! Tom Bombadil, Tom Bombadillo!
By water, wood and hill, by reed and willow,
By fire, sun and moon, harken now and hear us!
Come, Tom Bombadil, for our need is near us!
-- J. R. R. Tolkien
Governor Swill
2025-01-02 13:24:24 UTC
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http://youtu.be/EqBrw3rQvKo
Randy Newman - Political Science (Let's Drop the Big One Now)
Yet our domination of the planet continues to grow. Selling arms, for example,
reduces the number of nations who would war on us. They can hardly attack us if
they're dependent on us for weapons, spare parts and product support. Our
weapons sales continue to grow, Russia's continues to drop and even reliable
India has all but stopped buying Russian weapons.

The blip of BRICS wanting to break away from the dollar has crashed along with
the ruble and the war in Ukraine.

Sweden and Finland joined NATO and Ukraine is trying to. China's Taiwan
position as well as their attempts to annex border territory with India show the
Chinese are little better than the Russians in that regard. Over all, the US
has dealt more honestly and openly than Russia. We've gotten a reputation among
world leaders for being more likely to keep our word than anybody else. That
was arguable during the Cold War but now ...

<https://www.statista.com/chart/31526/share-of-global-exports-of-major-conventional-weapons-systems-and-components/#:~:text=The%20United%20States%20was%20the,Russia%20followed%20in%20second%20place.>

NP: Kenny Loggins - I'm Alright (Theme from "Caddyshack")
--
Been saying since last spring, "let the voters decide."

Well, they did. Get over it.
Chris Ahlstrom
2024-12-18 13:10:46 UTC
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Post by Gronk
Post by In the Name of Jesus
Well, it is—under the sun.
How is it a lie?
A lie is the promise of something being true.
Everything in this world is a lie, merely a promise of fulfilment and
satisfaction. However, fulfilment and satisfaction wouldn't even be a
thing if it were not possible. Right?
“Properly read, the Bible is the most potent
force for atheism ever conceived.”
― Isaac Asimov
And he is still trying to win! :-).
It means people are still not properly reading this
bible :-}
The Bible needs to be properly read.
"Properly read, the Bible is the most
potent force for atheism ever devised"
- Isaac Asimov -
And good old Isaac wrote two thick books about the Bible.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asimov%27s_Guide_to_the_Bible
--
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but that he dances at all.
Siri Cruise
2024-12-18 14:30:32 UTC
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Post by Gronk
Post by In the Name of Jesus
Well, it is—under the sun.
How is it a lie?
A lie is the promise of something being true.
Everything in this world is a lie, merely a promise of fulfilment and
satisfaction. However, fulfilment and satisfaction wouldn't even be a
thing if it were not possible. Right?
“Properly read, the Bible is the most potent
force for atheism ever conceived.”
― Isaac Asimov
And he is still trying to win!:-).
It means people are still not properly reading this
bible :-}
The Bible needs to be properly read.
"Properly read, the Bible is the most
potent force for atheism ever devised"
- Isaac Asimov -
And good old Isaac wrote two thick books about the Bible.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asimov%27s_Guide_to_the_Bible
-- The wonderful thing about a dancing bear is not how well he
dances, but that he dances at all.

Tanzmusik


Kristallo
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Chris Ahlstrom
2024-12-18 16:00:22 UTC
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Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Gronk
Post by Gronk
Post by In the Name of Jesus
Well, it is—under the sun.
How is it a lie?
A lie is the promise of something being true.
Everything in this world is a lie, merely a promise of fulfilment and
satisfaction. However, fulfilment and satisfaction wouldn't even be a
thing if it were not possible. Right?
“Properly read, the Bible is the most potent
force for atheism ever conceived.”
― Isaac Asimov
And he is still trying to win!:-).
It means people are still not properly reading this
bible :-}
The Bible needs to be properly read.
"Properly read, the Bible is the most
potent force for atheism ever devised"
- Isaac Asimov -
And good old Isaac wrote two thick books about the Bible.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asimov%27s_Guide_to_the_Bible
-- The wonderful thing about a dancing bear is not how well he
dances, but that he dances at all.
http://youtu.be/uPWoHRXrAJM
Tanzmusik
http://youtu.be/ZX6R8w-IALk
Kristallo
I like a fair number of Kraftwerk tunes. I had an LP (vinyl) of "Trans Europe
Express", and the songs were so repetitive they made visible patterns in the
groove.

Robot imitator:

Robot Vall | Валерий Робот Вэлл Черновский



Robot Vall | Kraftwerk promo

Another one, longer:


--
If life is merely a joke, the question still remains: for whose amusement?
jojo
2024-12-18 15:58:29 UTC
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Post by Gronk
Post by In the Name of Jesus
Well, it is—under the sun.
How is it a lie?
A lie is the promise of something being true.
Everything in this world is a lie, merely a promise of fulfilment and
satisfaction. However, fulfilment and satisfaction wouldn't even be a
thing if it were not possible. Right?
“Properly read, the Bible is the most potent
force for atheism ever conceived.”
― Isaac Asimov
And he is still trying to win! :-).
It means people are still not properly reading this
bible :-}
The Bible needs to be properly read.
"Properly read, the Bible is the most
potent force for atheism ever devised"
- Isaac Asimov -
i havent really read even 1 full page of the bible yet. but it
seems self evident to me that the anthropomorphic notion of an
omniscient being with the need to dispose human morality seems
absurd.

except, except in that it helped organize society and attempted
to tamed the worst instincts in people, but really backfired. but
the organization part worked.
The Doctor
2024-12-18 16:48:38 UTC
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Post by Gronk
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Well, it is—under the sun.
How is it a lie?
A lie is the promise of something being true.
Everything in this world is a lie, merely a promise of fulfilment and
satisfaction. However, fulfilment and satisfaction wouldn't even be a
thing if it were not possible. Right?
“Properly read, the Bible is the most potent
force for atheism ever conceived.”
― Isaac Asimov
And he is still trying to win! :-).
It means people are still not properly reading this
bible :-}
The Bible needs to be properly read.
"Properly read, the Bible is the most
potent force for atheism ever devised"
- Isaac Asimov -
i havent really read even 1 full page of the bible yet. but it
seems self evident to me that the anthropomorphic notion of an
omniscient being with the need to dispose human morality seems
absurd.
except, except in that it helped organize society and attempted
to tamed the worst instincts in people, but really backfired. but
the organization part worked.
Isaac is correct!
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Attila
2024-12-20 14:55:13 UTC
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Post by The Doctor
Post by jojo
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Gronk
Post by In the Name of Jesus
Well, it is—under the sun.
How is it a lie?
A lie is the promise of something being true.
Everything in this world is a lie, merely a promise of fulfilment and
satisfaction. However, fulfilment and satisfaction wouldn't even be a
thing if it were not possible. Right?
“Properly read, the Bible is the most potent
force for atheism ever conceived.�
― Isaac Asimov
And he is still trying to win! :-).
It means people are still not properly reading this
bible :-}
The Bible needs to be properly read.
"Properly read, the Bible is the most
potent force for atheism ever devised"
- Isaac Asimov -
i havent really read even 1 full page of the bible yet. but it
seems self evident to me that the anthropomorphic notion of an
omniscient being with the need to dispose human morality seems
absurd.
except, except in that it helped organize society and attempted
to tamed the worst instincts in people, but really backfired. but
the organization part worked.
Isaac is correct!
He usually was.
--
List of anti-American organizations:

Al-Qaeda
HAMAS
Hezbollah
ISIS
Communist Party
Democratic Party
Antifa

Build a wall.
Deport them all.

All politicians are trained to lie
and make those lies sound like
the truth. They start with the biggest
lie of all: Politicians are public
servants.

DEI DEATH CERTIFICATE

Date - Jan 20, 2025
Time - 12:00 Noon

Date - Jan 20, 2025
Time - 12:15 PM

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