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This is what is happening.
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Michael Christ
2018-12-29 07:27:31 UTC
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Unbelievers (including the pretend believers) have changed the truth of
God into a lie and worshiped and served what was created more than
giving the Creator His rightful place for all He has done.

For this reason God has given them up to their vile deluded ways.

Hence the mess and it only going to get worse.





Michael Christ
Tim
2018-12-29 14:53:48 UTC
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Post by Michael Christ
Unbelievers (including the pretend believers) have changed the truth of
God into a lie and worshiped and served what was created more than
giving the Creator His rightful place for all He has done.
For this reason God has given them up to their vile deluded ways.
Hence the mess and it only going to get worse.
God is dead. Get over it, christer twat.
viva padrepio
2018-12-29 14:59:00 UTC
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Post by Tim
Post by Michael Christ
Unbelievers (including the pretend believers) have changed the truth of
God into a lie and worshiped and served what was created more than
giving the Creator His rightful place for all He has done.
For this reason God has given them up to their vile deluded ways.
Hence the mess and it only going to get worse.
God is dead. Get over it, christer twat.
Tim: "Mike Hunt was raped at the world's fair." :-O
Tim
2018-12-29 15:35:03 UTC
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Post by viva padrepio
Post by Tim
Post by Michael Christ
Unbelievers (including the pretend believers) have changed the truth of
God into a lie and worshiped and served what was created more than
giving the Creator His rightful place for all He has done.
For this reason God has given them up to their vile deluded ways.
Hence the mess and it only going to get worse.
God is dead. Get over it, christer twat.
Tim: "Mike Hunt was raped at the world's fair." :-O
Viva Pedophile: "My arse hole has never been raped, because I always consent to anal sex!!!"

:-)
Yap Honghor
2019-01-02 02:46:14 UTC
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Post by viva padrepio
Post by Tim
Post by Michael Christ
Unbelievers (including the pretend believers) have changed the truth of
God into a lie and worshiped and served what was created more than
giving the Creator His rightful place for all He has done.
For this reason God has given them up to their vile deluded ways.
Hence the mess and it only going to get worse.
God is dead. Get over it, christer twat.
Tim: "Mike Hunt was raped at the world's fair." :-O
Viva: "Mike Hunt was raped at the world's fair, by me!" :-)
Dexter
2019-01-01 15:37:36 UTC
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Post by Michael Christ
Unbelievers (including the pretend believers) have
changed the truth of God into a lie and worshiped and
served what was created more than giving the Creator His
rightful place for all He has done.
For this reason God has given them up to their vile
deluded ways.
Hence the mess and it only going to get worse.
Michael Christ
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Well, I'll take /that/ as an open admission from you that
your magical all powerful sky dictator is powerless to
prevent this from happening and (according to you) he's
given up trying to do so. Reality is a bitch. What a
surprise.
--
"The most unsettling aspect of my atheism for Christians is
when they realize that their Bible has no power to make me
wince. They are used to using it like a cattle prod to get
people to cower into compliance." - Author unknown
Michael Christ
2019-01-02 09:50:19 UTC
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Post by Dexter
Post by Michael Christ
Unbelievers (including the pretend believers) have
changed the truth of God into a lie and worshiped and
served what was created more than giving the Creator His
rightful place for all He has done.
For this reason God has given them up to their vile
deluded ways.
Hence the mess and it only going to get worse.
Michael Christ
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Well, I'll take /that/ as an open admission from you that
your magical all powerful sky dictator is powerless to
prevent this from happening and (according to you) he's
given up trying to do so. Reality is a bitch. What a
surprise.
You have to face the consequences of your actions. He is a righteous
judge; righteousness will reap the fruit righteousness and
unrighteousness will reap the fruit of unrighteousness.

There is always hope though with the Lord, but you are a fool.




Michael Christ
Dexter
2019-01-02 14:06:09 UTC
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Post by Dexter
Post by Michael Christ
Unbelievers (including the pretend believers) have
changed the truth of God into a lie and worshiped and
served what was created more than giving the Creator
His rightful place for all He has done.
For this reason God has given them up to their vile
deluded ways.
Hence the mess and it only going to get worse.
Michael Christ
______________________________________________
Well, I'll take that as an open admission from you that
your magical all powerful sky dictator is powerless to
prevent this from happening and (according to you) he's
given up trying to do so. Reality is a bitch. What a
surprise.
You have to face the consequences of your actions. He is
a righteous judge; righteousness will reap the fruit
righteousness and unrighteousness will reap the fruit of
unrighteousness.
There is always hope though with the Lord, but you are a
fool.
Michael Christ
______________________________________________

Look who's talking.
--
"The most unsettling aspect of my atheism for Christians is
when they realize that their Bible has no power to make me
wince. They are used to using it like a cattle prod to get
people to cower into compliance." - Author unknown
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2019-01-02 13:39:39 UTC
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On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 18:27:31 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Unbelievers (including the pretend believers) have changed the truth of
God into a lie and worshiped and served what was created more than
giving the Creator His rightful place for all He has done.
For this reason God has given them up to their vile deluded ways.
Hence the mess and it only going to get worse.
So sayeth Pastor Mickey Christus of the "End Times Gospel Ministry."
Michael Christ
2019-01-02 23:46:20 UTC
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On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 18:27:31 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Unbelievers (including the pretend believers) have changed the truth of
God into a lie and worshiped and served what was created more than
giving the Creator His rightful place for all He has done.
For this reason God has given them up to their vile deluded ways.
Hence the mess and it only going to get worse.
So sayeth Pastor Mickey Christus of the "End Times Gospel Ministry."
I am not of any of the counterfeits, you should know that by now.

In any event, the truth is the truth, no matter how clever you try to
make yourself.





Michael Christ
Rod
2019-01-02 21:10:48 UTC
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Post by Michael Christ
Unbelievers (including the pretend believers) have changed the truth of
God into a lie and worshiped and served what was created more than
giving the Creator His rightful place for all He has done.
So you still think that God is a person? In the early, primitive
years of mankind men always looked to creating gods. When the weather
favored them and their crops would grow well it was a god that was
responsible for that. When things were bad the gods were angry with
them.

The truth is that when men stared at the sky in wonder it was
because the whole universe was larger than they could cope with,

So perhaps we should define what we think constitutes God, and
why.
Post by Michael Christ
For this reason God has given them up to their vile deluded ways.
Men do what they do, few of them...religious or not seek to do good.
That is just the way we are.
Post by Michael Christ
Hence the mess and it only going to get worse.
Michael Christ
Michael Christ
2019-01-03 00:30:59 UTC
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Post by Michael Christ
Unbelievers (including the pretend believers) have changed the truth
of God into a lie and worshiped and served what was created more than
giving the Creator His rightful place for all He has done.
  So you still think that God is a person?
:-). 'Know' Him as a Person...32 years...35 years if I count His work
in me as it began. A wonderful Person who created an intimate personal
world full of intimate personal human beings.
In the early, primitive
  years of mankind men always looked to creating gods. When the weather
  favored them and their crops would grow well it was a god that was
  responsible for that. When things were bad the gods were angry with
  them.
  The truth is that when men stared at the sky in wonder it was
  because the whole universe was larger than they could cope with,
  So perhaps we should define what we think constitutes God, and
  why.
The creature cannot define the Creator, it can only be the other way around.
Post by Michael Christ
For this reason God has given them up to their vile deluded ways.
  Men do what they do, few of them...religious or not seek to do good.
That is just the way we are.
That would be the story but the Creator provided a way to be different.
We can't define ourselves, we can't even get from the crib without
crapping in our pants, and when we do get out of the crib we pollute the
planet beyond the crib, no matter how environmentally friendly we are.

The answers all abide in God and in our hands is nothing but death.
Jesus said, personally, I am the way, the truth and the life and it is
true.

Unfortunately, no one escapes death but that does not have to be the
end, a Personal God provides us all with something very personal, hope,
atheist and religious alike.

I would wish that everyone knew Him as I know Him.
Post by Michael Christ
Hence the mess and it only going to get worse.
Michael Christ
Rod
2019-01-03 02:11:48 UTC
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Post by Michael Christ
Unbelievers (including the pretend believers) have changed the truth
of God into a lie and worshiped and served what was created more than
giving the Creator His rightful place for all He has done.
   So you still think that God is a person?
:-).  'Know' Him as a Person...32 years...35 years if I count His work
in me as it began.  A wonderful Person who created an intimate personal
world full of intimate personal human beings.
You are talking about Jesus. I was speaking of the Father,
He is not human.
In the early, primitive
   years of mankind men always looked to creating gods. When the weather
   favored them and their crops would grow well it was a god that was
   responsible for that. When things were bad the gods were angry with
   them.
   The truth is that when men stared at the sky in wonder it was
   because the whole universe was larger than they could cope with,
   So perhaps we should define what we think constitutes God, and
   why.
The creature cannot define the Creator, it can only be the other way around.
You just defined Jesus as a man. The Father is not a man.
Post by Michael Christ
For this reason God has given them up to their vile deluded ways.
   Men do what they do, few of them...religious or not seek to do
good. That is just the way we are.
That would be the story but the Creator provided a way to be different.
We can't define ourselves, we can't even get from the crib without
crapping in our pants, and when we do get out of the crib we pollute the
planet beyond the crib, no matter how environmentally friendly we are.
The answers all abide in God and in our hands is nothing but death.
Jesus said, personally, I am the way, the truth and the life and it is
true.
Unfortunately, no one escapes death but that does not have to be the
end, a Personal God provides us all with something very personal, hope,
atheist and religious alike.
I would wish that everyone knew Him as I know Him.
Post by Michael Christ
Hence the mess and it only going to get worse.
Michael Christ
Michael Christ
2019-01-03 08:15:28 UTC
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Post by Michael Christ
Unbelievers (including the pretend believers) have changed the truth
of God into a lie and worshiped and served what was created more
than giving the Creator His rightful place for all He has done.
   So you still think that God is a person?
:-).  'Know' Him as a Person...32 years...35 years if I count His work
in me as it began.  A wonderful Person who created an intimate
personal world full of intimate personal human beings.
  You are talking about Jesus. I was speaking of the Father,
  He is not human.
The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are God. To me there is no distinction
other than like I described the eye as example.

God is not a human per se, even though He is in and through all things,
but the Father is a Father, not a thing or a force or an entity. Will
you accept His description of Himself?
In the early, primitive
   years of mankind men always looked to creating gods. When the weather
   favored them and their crops would grow well it was a god that was
   responsible for that. When things were bad the gods were angry with
   them.
   The truth is that when men stared at the sky in wonder it was
   because the whole universe was larger than they could cope with,
   So perhaps we should define what we think constitutes God, and
   why.
The creature cannot define the Creator, it can only be the other way around.
   You just defined Jesus as a man. The Father is not a man.
?? Can't see that.
Post by Michael Christ
For this reason God has given them up to their vile deluded ways.
   Men do what they do, few of them...religious or not seek to do
good. That is just the way we are.
That would be the story but the Creator provided a way to be
different. We can't define ourselves, we can't even get from the crib
without crapping in our pants, and when we do get out of the crib we
pollute the planet beyond the crib, no matter how environmentally
friendly we are.
The answers all abide in God and in our hands is nothing but death.
Jesus said, personally, I am the way, the truth and the life and it is
true.
Unfortunately, no one escapes death but that does not have to be the
end, a Personal God provides us all with something very personal,
hope, atheist and religious alike.
I would wish that everyone knew Him as I know Him.
Post by Michael Christ
Hence the mess and it only going to get worse.
Michael Christ
Yap Honghor
2019-01-03 09:15:34 UTC
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Post by Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Unbelievers (including the pretend believers) have changed the truth
of God into a lie and worshiped and served what was created more
than giving the Creator His rightful place for all He has done.
   So you still think that God is a person?
:-).  'Know' Him as a Person...32 years...35 years if I count His work
in me as it began.  A wonderful Person who created an intimate
personal world full of intimate personal human beings.
  You are talking about Jesus. I was speaking of the Father,
  He is not human.
The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are God. To me there is no distinction
other than like I described the eye as example.
God is not a human per se, even though He is in and through all things,
but the Father is a Father, not a thing or a force or an entity. Will
you accept His description of Himself?
What description? You mean a carpenter????????????
Post by Michael Christ
In the early, primitive
   years of mankind men always looked to creating gods. When the weather
   favored them and their crops would grow well it was a god that was
   responsible for that. When things were bad the gods were angry with
   them.
   The truth is that when men stared at the sky in wonder it was
   because the whole universe was larger than they could cope with,
   So perhaps we should define what we think constitutes God, and
   why.
The creature cannot define the Creator, it can only be the other way around.
   You just defined Jesus as a man. The Father is not a man.
?? Can't see that.
Since when has a theist got eyes????
Post by Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
For this reason God has given them up to their vile deluded ways.
   Men do what they do, few of them...religious or not seek to do
good. That is just the way we are.
That would be the story but the Creator provided a way to be
different. We can't define ourselves, we can't even get from the crib
without crapping in our pants, and when we do get out of the crib we
pollute the planet beyond the crib, no matter how environmentally
friendly we are.
The answers all abide in God and in our hands is nothing but death.
Jesus said, personally, I am the way, the truth and the life and it is
true.
Unfortunately, no one escapes death but that does not have to be the
end, a Personal God provides us all with something very personal,
hope, atheist and religious alike.
I would wish that everyone knew Him as I know Him.
Your delusion is disgusting!
Post by Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Hence the mess and it only going to get worse.
Rod
2019-01-03 13:31:52 UTC
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Post by Michael Christ
Unbelievers (including the pretend believers) have changed the
truth of God into a lie and worshiped and served what was created
more than giving the Creator His rightful place for all He has done.
   So you still think that God is a person?
:-).  'Know' Him as a Person...32 years...35 years if I count His
work in me as it began.  A wonderful Person who created an intimate
personal world full of intimate personal human beings.
   You are talking about Jesus. I was speaking of the Father,
   He is not human.
The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are God.  To me there is no distinction
other than like I described the eye as example.
God is not a human per se, even though He is in and through all things,
but the Father is a Father, not a thing or a force or an entity.  Will
you accept His description of Himself?
"Father" is still mens interpretation of what is being said. "Father"
actually means creator
In the early, primitive
   years of mankind men always looked to creating gods. When the weather
   favored them and their crops would grow well it was a god that was
   responsible for that. When things were bad the gods were angry with
   them.
   The truth is that when men stared at the sky in wonder it was
   because the whole universe was larger than they could cope with,
   So perhaps we should define what we think constitutes God, and
   why.
The creature cannot define the Creator, it can only be the other way around.
    You just defined Jesus as a man. The Father is not a man.
Michael Christ
2019-01-03 23:48:50 UTC
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Post by Michael Christ
Unbelievers (including the pretend believers) have changed the
truth of God into a lie and worshiped and served what was created
more than giving the Creator His rightful place for all He has done.
   So you still think that God is a person?
:-).  'Know' Him as a Person...32 years...35 years if I count His
work in me as it began.  A wonderful Person who created an intimate
personal world full of intimate personal human beings.
   You are talking about Jesus. I was speaking of the Father,
   He is not human.
The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are God.  To me there is no
distinction other than like I described the eye as example.
God is not a human per se, even though He is in and through all
things, but the Father is a Father, not a thing or a force or an
entity.  Will you accept His description of Himself?
  "Father" is still mens interpretation of what is being said. "Father"
actually means creator
Who is God here, man or God??

He designed, made, created everything in every way, even the word
'flavour' before we had our strawberry flavoured milkshake...which He
also set in place.
In the early, primitive
   years of mankind men always looked to creating gods. When the weather
   favored them and their crops would grow well it was a god that was
   responsible for that. When things were bad the gods were angry with
   them.
   The truth is that when men stared at the sky in wonder it was
   because the whole universe was larger than they could cope with,
   So perhaps we should define what we think constitutes God, and
   why.
The creature cannot define the Creator, it can only be the other way around.
     You just defined Jesus as a man.
Jesus is God and man.
The Father is not a man.
I am not aware that I said He was?

But in Jesus is the Father, just the same; Father is in Him and Him in
the Father.

Joh_10:30  I and my Father are one.

Joh_14:10  Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in
me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the
Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

Any born again son of God speaks words that are not of themselves.

Yet the world recognises Him not. Only to those whom the Lord reveals
Himself to can know the Word of the Lord.

Its personal because God is personal, very personal.

No one is prevented though.
Yap Honghor
2019-01-03 02:31:41 UTC
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Post by Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Unbelievers (including the pretend believers) have changed the truth
of God into a lie and worshiped and served what was created more than
giving the Creator His rightful place for all He has done.
  So you still think that God is a person?
:-). 'Know' Him as a Person...32 years...35 years if I count His work
in me as it began. A wonderful Person who created an intimate personal
world full of intimate personal human beings.
You have been deluding yourself for more than 30 years?
And you are still counting how long you will remain in such a state?
Post by Michael Christ
In the early, primitive
  years of mankind men always looked to creating gods. When the weather
  favored them and their crops would grow well it was a god that was
  responsible for that. When things were bad the gods were angry with
  them.
  The truth is that when men stared at the sky in wonder it was
  because the whole universe was larger than they could cope with,
  So perhaps we should define what we think constitutes God, and
  why.
The creature cannot define the Creator, it can only be the other way around.
I thought you have been in communication with this creator, but found no information flow???????? Perhaps, a psycho doctor is able to help.....
Post by Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
For this reason God has given them up to their vile deluded ways.
  Men do what they do, few of them...religious or not seek to do good.
That is just the way we are.
That would be the story but the Creator provided a way to be different.
We can't define ourselves, we can't even get from the crib without
crapping in our pants, and when we do get out of the crib we pollute the
planet beyond the crib, no matter how environmentally friendly we are.
The answers all abide in God and in our hands is nothing but death.
Jesus said, personally, I am the way, the truth and the life and it is
true.
What had happened to your eternal creator? Has this jesus murdered it????????
Post by Michael Christ
Unfortunately, no one escapes death but that does not have to be the
end, a Personal God provides us all with something very personal, hope,
atheist and religious alike.
You want to have a personal pixie, but have you ask if it wanted you??????
Of course you are just having a self satisfying session....
Post by Michael Christ
I would wish that everyone knew Him as I know Him.
You mean you knew a zombie????????
ravn
2019-01-04 00:31:12 UTC
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Post by Michael Christ
Hence the mess and it only going to get worse.
You dug a hole, filled it with idiosyncratic piss, & dived in head first. How are you planning on making things worst for yourself?
Michael Christ
2019-01-04 06:57:10 UTC
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Post by Michael Christ
Hence the mess and it only going to get worse.
You dug a hole, filled it with idiosyncratic piss, & dived in head first. How are you planning on making things worst for yourself?
The world is selfish and it has been its downfall and will be its downfall.





Michael Christ
Yap Honghor
2019-01-04 08:40:48 UTC
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Post by ravn
Post by Michael Christ
Hence the mess and it only going to get worse.
You dug a hole, filled it with idiosyncratic piss, & dived in head first. How are you planning on making things worst for yourself?
The world is selfish and it has been its downfall and will be its downfall.
The US will fit your prophecy because there are far too many fools there.
The rest of the world will progress happily....
ravn
2019-01-05 01:04:18 UTC
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The world is selfish ...
Then why are you contributing to that with your selfish egocentric faith based claptrap?
Michael Christ
2019-01-05 07:41:30 UTC
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...claptrap?
Yes, you have.





Michael Christ
ravn
2019-01-08 18:09:53 UTC
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Post by Michael Christ
...claptrap?
Yes, you have.
You don't like the selfish world, but you're going to selfishly try to impose yourself on it without regard to facts or reason. That means you're a part of the problem, not the solution.
Michael Christ
2019-01-09 01:33:55 UTC
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Post by Michael Christ
...claptrap?
Yes, you have.
You don't like the selfish world, but you're going to selfishly try to impose yourself on it without regard to facts or reason. That means you're a part of the problem, not the solution.
Awaiting your glorious solution, Claptrap!

The Lord Jesus is on hold while we wait.





Michael Christ
Yap Honghor
2019-01-09 02:16:39 UTC
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Post by ravn
Post by Michael Christ
...claptrap?
Yes, you have.
You don't like the selfish world, but you're going to selfishly try to impose yourself on it without regard to facts or reason. That means you're a part of the problem, not the solution.
Awaiting your glorious solution, Claptrap!
The Lord Jesus is on hold while we wait.
You have turned to a human zombie.....
What happened to the eternal creator????????
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Michael Christ
ravn
2019-01-09 03:30:39 UTC
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Awaiting your glorious solution...
You need to type less, & think more.
The Lord Jesus is...
Just a myth. & he's whatever you want him to be. It's all arbitrary.
Michael Christ
2019-01-09 07:35:51 UTC
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WAITING.

My little 'solution' crapper!







Michael Christ
m***@gmail.com
2019-01-08 21:19:21 UTC
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Post by Michael Christ
...claptrap?
Yes, you have.
Many of us feel sorry for you and the mind trap you have surrendered to.
Michael Christ
2019-01-09 01:35:55 UTC
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Post by Michael Christ
...claptrap?
Yes, you have.
Many of us feel sorry for you and the mind trap you have surrendered to.
I can feel your pain! :-).

Queen Malk is all about her regal self where the rubber meets the road,
My Little Ferrari; vintage, but still.



Michael Christ
m***@gmail.com
2019-01-08 21:17:55 UTC
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Post by ravn
Post by Michael Christ
Hence the mess and it only going to get worse.
You dug a hole, filled it with idiosyncratic piss, & dived in head first. How are you planning on making things worst for yourself?
The world is selfish and it has been its downfall and will be its downfall.
Your religion has made you a depressed personality. Our disbelief in your myths has made us very happy.
malkinmichelle6
2019-01-08 21:39:25 UTC
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Post by Michael Christ
Post by ravn
Post by Michael Christ
Hence the mess and it only going to get worse.
You dug a hole, filled it with idiosyncratic piss, & dived in head first. How are you planning on making things worst for yourself?
The world is selfish and it has been its downfall and will be its downfall.
Your religion has made you a depressed personality. Our disbelief in your myths has made us very happy.
they aren't his myths and a happy person would know that
Cloud Hobbit
2019-01-09 04:38:22 UTC
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Post by Michael Christ
Unbelievers (including the pretend believers) have changed the truth of
God into a lie and worshiped and served what was created more than
giving the Creator His rightful place for all He has done.
Post by Michael Christ
For this reason God has given them up to their vile deluded ways.
Hence the mess and it only going to get worse.
What God? Nobody has c o confirmed the existence of such an entity.

How does something that doesn't exist have any other place besides the rubbish bin where all mythology is dumped.

How does your imaginary God give up anything?

How is recognizing that something that has no real, coherent, evidence, delusional?

You have it backwards.

Belief in a God is delusional.
Faith is not evidence, its what you use when you don't have any evidence.
Michael Christ
2019-01-09 07:38:23 UTC
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Post by Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Unbelievers (including the pretend believers) have changed the truth of
God into a lie and worshiped and served what was created more than
giving the Creator His rightful place for all He has done.
Post by Michael Christ
For this reason God has given them up to their vile deluded ways.
Hence the mess and it only going to get worse.
What God? Nobody has c o confirmed the existence of such an entity.
How does something that doesn't exist have any other place besides the rubbish bin where all mythology is dumped.
How does your imaginary God give up anything?
How is recognizing that something that has no real, coherent, evidence, delusional?
You have it backwards.
Belief in a God is delusional.
Faith is not evidence, its what you use when you don't have any evidence.
Your 'vile deluded ways' are preventing you from humbling, Hobby.

YOU DID NOT CREATE (TAKE YOUR PICK) YOURSELF!




Michael Christ




Michael Christ
Yap Honghor
2019-01-09 08:10:28 UTC
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Unbelievers (including the pretend believers) have changed the truth of
God into a lie and worshiped and served what was created more than
giving the Creator His rightful place for all He has done.
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For this reason God has given them up to their vile deluded ways.
Hence the mess and it only going to get worse.
What God? Nobody has c o confirmed the existence of such an entity.
How does something that doesn't exist have any other place besides the rubbish bin where all mythology is dumped.
How does your imaginary God give up anything?
How is recognizing that something that has no real, coherent, evidence, delusional?
You have it backwards.
Belief in a God is delusional.
Faith is not evidence, its what you use when you don't have any evidence.
Your 'vile deluded ways' are preventing you from humbling, Hobby.
YOU DID NOT CREATE (TAKE YOUR PICK) YOURSELF!
Did he ever said that?

But, an eternal creator cannot create itself. Creation means some one or something doing the manufacturing!!!!!!!!!!
Michael Christ
2019-01-11 21:56:22 UTC
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Unbelievers (including the pretend believers) have changed the truth of
God into a lie and worshiped and served what was created more than
giving the Creator His rightful place for all He has done.
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For this reason God has given them up to their vile deluded ways.
Hence the mess and it only going to get worse.
What God? Nobody has c o confirmed the existence of such an entity.
How does something that doesn't exist have any other place besides the rubbish bin where all mythology is dumped.
How does your imaginary God give up anything?
How is recognizing that something that has no real, coherent, evidence, delusional?
You have it backwards.
Belief in a God is delusional.
Faith is not evidence, its what you use when you don't have any evidence.
Your 'vile deluded ways' are preventing you from humbling, Hobby.
YOU DID NOT CREATE (TAKE YOUR PICK) YOURSELF!
Did he ever said that?
But, an eternal creator cannot create itself. Creation means some one or something doing the manufacturing!!!!!!!!!!
Hahahahahahahahahaha...




Michael Christ
ravn
2019-01-12 00:01:17 UTC
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YOU DID NOT CREATE (TAKE YOUR PICK) YOURSELF!
It doesn't follow that therefore people were created by god. So, there's nothing to yell about.
Michael Christ
2019-01-12 02:51:52 UTC
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YOU DID NOT CREATE (TAKE YOUR PICK) YOURSELF!
It doesn't follow that therefore people were created by god.
Yes, it does.

Nothing can create itself.

One day hopefully the penny will drop but not before you humble your
sorry arse.

You're wrong (all religions included), you are all wrong and it is right
in front of your noses. You think I am proud to say that? You're wrong
about that too! I know what I am and I am just as useless as you, only
I did something you haven't, I got on my knees.

No I don't spend my day on my knees, grovelling like a dog, howling up
to the sky.

God is God, Creator of everything you see, enjoy, experience and He is
nothing like you atheists have been influenced to imagine or those
self-righteous religious assholes imagine. He is a freedom none of you
can imagine, but since you all insist on having it your way, in your
will, in your say-so, you miss Him.

He is like a beggar on the street that comes up to you asking for a
dime, so you even give him a dime and feel good about yourself and walk
away not knowing that that beggar is a gazillionaire. So what is He
after?? Your money, your busy life, your stuff, your comforts, your
time, your interests, your sex, your nice suit, your wants...???

No, He is after you. God is so 'incredibly treasure', so 'indescribably
whole', so 'replete of life', and me, all I am is one who is thankfully
given to see that! And the kicker is, I can do whatever I desire for my
treasure is Him and I live with far more freedom than you as an atheist
know or as the religious can comprehend, without guilt or shame.

Think of it in terms of Joseph, if you know him. Joseph was second in
charge of all of Egypt, a Hebrew/Israelite (whatever) slave. Anything
he wanted in Egypt was his, wanting for nothing...and he was able to
enjoy that without harm or destruction or destroying his neighbour to do so.

Anything and everything but the throne but he knew whom to that
rightfully belonged. You make a claim to that throne, Buddy, and you
are not worthy.

Why, in your mind, did I write all that bullshit? Well, the Lord
happened to speak to me as I replied, so stick it up your arse, it was
an encouragement for me (and would be for you, but Ravn knows all)!

Nothing stopping anyone else, Buddy, He is a beggar to us all. Isn't it
ironic how man strives to rise above his failure and ineptitude with his
self-pride and the God of all humbles Himself to that of a servant.

Majestic and glorious! No, not you!

And thanks.




Michael Christ
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2019-01-12 10:00:37 UTC
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YOU DID NOT CREATE (TAKE YOUR PICK) YOURSELF!
It doesn't follow that therefore people were created by god.
Yes, it does.
Nothing can create itself.
You are telling us that therefore no eternal creator can create itself!!!!
If it was there in the beginning, it needed its papa and mama....
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One day hopefully the penny will drop but not before you humble your
sorry arse.
You're wrong (all religions included), you are all wrong and it is right
in front of your noses. You think I am proud to say that? You're wrong
about that too! I know what I am and I am just as useless as you, only
I did something you haven't, I got on my knees.
No I don't spend my day on my knees, grovelling like a dog, howling up
to the sky.
God is God, Creator of everything you see, enjoy, experience and He is
nothing like you atheists have been influenced to imagine or those
self-righteous religious assholes imagine. He is a freedom none of you
can imagine, but since you all insist on having it your way, in your
will, in your say-so, you miss Him.
He is like a beggar on the street that comes up to you asking for a
dime, so you even give him a dime and feel good about yourself and walk
away not knowing that that beggar is a gazillionaire. So what is He
after?? Your money, your busy life, your stuff, your comforts, your
time, your interests, your sex, your nice suit, your wants...???
No, He is after you. God is so 'incredibly treasure', so 'indescribably
whole', so 'replete of life', and me, all I am is one who is thankfully
given to see that! And the kicker is, I can do whatever I desire for my
treasure is Him and I live with far more freedom than you as an atheist
know or as the religious can comprehend, without guilt or shame.
Think of it in terms of Joseph, if you know him. Joseph was second in
charge of all of Egypt, a Hebrew/Israelite (whatever) slave. Anything
he wanted in Egypt was his, wanting for nothing...and he was able to
enjoy that without harm or destruction or destroying his neighbour to do so.
Anything and everything but the throne but he knew whom to that
rightfully belonged. You make a claim to that throne, Buddy, and you
are not worthy.
Why, in your mind, did I write all that bullshit? Well, the Lord
happened to speak to me as I replied, so stick it up your arse, it was
an encouragement for me (and would be for you, but Ravn knows all)!
Nothing stopping anyone else, Buddy, He is a beggar to us all. Isn't it
ironic how man strives to rise above his failure and ineptitude with his
self-pride and the God of all humbles Himself to that of a servant.
Majestic and glorious! No, not you!
And thanks.
Michael Christ
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2019-01-12 23:21:59 UTC
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YOU DID NOT CREATE (TAKE YOUR PICK) YOURSELF!
It doesn't follow that therefore people were created by god.
Yes, it does.
Nothing can create itself.
You are telling us that therefore no eternal creator can create itself!!!!
If it was there in the beginning, it needed its papa and mama....
There is no beginning with God.

He's eternal or you wouldn't be here as nothing can create itself.




Michael Christ
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One day hopefully the penny will drop but not before you humble your
sorry arse.
You're wrong (all religions included), you are all wrong and it is right
in front of your noses. You think I am proud to say that? You're wrong
about that too! I know what I am and I am just as useless as you, only
I did something you haven't, I got on my knees.
No I don't spend my day on my knees, grovelling like a dog, howling up
to the sky.
God is God, Creator of everything you see, enjoy, experience and He is
nothing like you atheists have been influenced to imagine or those
self-righteous religious assholes imagine. He is a freedom none of you
can imagine, but since you all insist on having it your way, in your
will, in your say-so, you miss Him.
He is like a beggar on the street that comes up to you asking for a
dime, so you even give him a dime and feel good about yourself and walk
away not knowing that that beggar is a gazillionaire. So what is He
after?? Your money, your busy life, your stuff, your comforts, your
time, your interests, your sex, your nice suit, your wants...???
No, He is after you. God is so 'incredibly treasure', so 'indescribably
whole', so 'replete of life', and me, all I am is one who is thankfully
given to see that! And the kicker is, I can do whatever I desire for my
treasure is Him and I live with far more freedom than you as an atheist
know or as the religious can comprehend, without guilt or shame.
Think of it in terms of Joseph, if you know him. Joseph was second in
charge of all of Egypt, a Hebrew/Israelite (whatever) slave. Anything
he wanted in Egypt was his, wanting for nothing...and he was able to
enjoy that without harm or destruction or destroying his neighbour to do so.
Anything and everything but the throne but he knew whom to that
rightfully belonged. You make a claim to that throne, Buddy, and you
are not worthy.
Why, in your mind, did I write all that bullshit? Well, the Lord
happened to speak to me as I replied, so stick it up your arse, it was
an encouragement for me (and would be for you, but Ravn knows all)!
Nothing stopping anyone else, Buddy, He is a beggar to us all. Isn't it
ironic how man strives to rise above his failure and ineptitude with his
self-pride and the God of all humbles Himself to that of a servant.
Majestic and glorious! No, not you!
And thanks.
Michael Christ
Yap Honghor
2019-01-13 02:59:50 UTC
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YOU DID NOT CREATE (TAKE YOUR PICK) YOURSELF!
It doesn't follow that therefore people were created by god.
Yes, it does.
Nothing can create itself.
You are telling us that therefore no eternal creator can create itself!!!!
If it was there in the beginning, it needed its papa and mama....
There is no beginning with God.
Oh, since a pixie has no beginning, it means THERE IS NO FUCKING PIXIE!!!
Ok, then naturally you don;e have a zombie as well, right?
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He's eternal or you wouldn't be here as nothing can create itself.
Since nothing can create itself, no pixie is here at the beginning!!!!

What takes you so long to tell a simple fact?????????
Syd M.
2019-01-13 23:56:07 UTC
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YOU DID NOT CREATE (TAKE YOUR PICK) YOURSELF!
It doesn't follow that therefore people were created by god.
Yes, it does.
Nothing can create itself.
You are telling us that therefore no eternal creator can create itself!!!!
If it was there in the beginning, it needed its papa and mama....
There is no beginning with God.
He's eternal or you wouldn't be here as nothing can create itself.
Uh huh. And why is your 'god' exempt from the 'nothing can create itself,' Micko?

PDW
Michael Christ
2019-01-14 01:43:59 UTC
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YOU DID NOT CREATE (TAKE YOUR PICK) YOURSELF!
It doesn't follow that therefore people were created by god.
Yes, it does.
Nothing can create itself.
You are telling us that therefore no eternal creator can create itself!!!!
If it was there in the beginning, it needed its papa and mama....
There is no beginning with God.
He's eternal or you wouldn't be here as nothing can create itself.
Uh huh. And why is your 'god' exempt from the 'nothing can create itself,' Micko?
PDW
He's is God for one thing, and He's eternal for another or we would not
be here.

Its simple.

You are just another blind genius who thinks life (you) created itself.





Michael Christ
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2019-01-14 08:39:23 UTC
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YOU DID NOT CREATE (TAKE YOUR PICK) YOURSELF!
It doesn't follow that therefore people were created by god.
Yes, it does.
Nothing can create itself.
You are telling us that therefore no eternal creator can create itself!!!!
If it was there in the beginning, it needed its papa and mama....
There is no beginning with God.
He's eternal or you wouldn't be here as nothing can create itself.
Uh huh. And why is your 'god' exempt from the 'nothing can create itself,' Micko?
PDW
He's is God for one thing, and He's eternal for another or we would not
be here.
If an eternal creator can create itself, then surely nature gives all biological entities to be created by themselves as well!!!!
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Its simple.
You cannot have your cake and eat it all.
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You are just another blind genius who thinks life (you) created itself.
And you are the troll who thinks a creator created itself.
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2019-01-14 02:05:43 UTC
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YOU DID NOT CREATE (TAKE YOUR PICK) YOURSELF!
It doesn't follow that therefore people were created by god.
Yes, it does.
Nothing can create itself.
You are telling us that therefore no eternal creator can create itself!!!!
If it was there in the beginning, it needed its papa and mama....
There is no beginning with God.
He's eternal or you wouldn't be here as nothing can create itself.
Uh huh. And why is your 'god' exempt from the 'nothing can create itself,' Micko?
PDW
The idiots can't seem to grasp that it's precisely the same argument.
Yap Honghor
2019-01-14 08:36:26 UTC
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YOU DID NOT CREATE (TAKE YOUR PICK) YOURSELF!
It doesn't follow that therefore people were created by god.
Yes, it does.
Nothing can create itself.
You are telling us that therefore no eternal creator can create itself!!!!
If it was there in the beginning, it needed its papa and mama....
There is no beginning with God.
He's eternal or you wouldn't be here as nothing can create itself.
Uh huh. And why is your 'god' exempt from the 'nothing can create itself,' Micko?
Because our MX troll said so....quite simple.
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2019-01-12 10:19:49 UTC
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Yes, it does.
Nothing can create itself.
So immediately, god must have done it? There's no logic in that.

Then you'd go one further and claim that this proves the bible is a
true factual account or that your "god" must be just like the bible
describes him, character flaws and all?

Don't you ever question how this can be? You were spoon-fed this
malarkey from birth, and it is too hard to abandon childhood
brainwashing; or did you let some nincompoop rope you into it?
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2019-01-12 15:57:42 UTC
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Yes, it does.
Nothing can create itself.
So immediately, god must have done it? There's no logic in that.
Then you'd go one further and claim that this proves the bible is a
true factual account or that your "god" must be just like the bible
describes him, character flaws and all?
Don't you ever question how this can be? You were spoon-fed this
malarkey from birth,
Judging by the quantity of shit he spews, I suspect the malarkey was
delivered via enema.
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and it is too hard to abandon childhood
brainwashing; or did you let some nincompoop rope you into it?
He's a member of Nincompoops R Us, so yes.
--
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
Je pense, donc je suis Charlie.
Michael Christ
2019-01-12 23:37:32 UTC
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Yes, it does.
Nothing can create itself.
So immediately, god must have done it? There's no logic in that.
Have you another option, instead of running your mouth off??

Everything around you was created.

We can't be here without an eternal Creator.

Plus there that thing about 'design', not some atheist freakzoid chance
applying to billions of forms of life and a gzillion under the microscope.

Just poofed, did it?

You are a mad man.

Nothing can create itself.
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Then you'd go one further and claim that this proves the bible is a
true factual account or that your "god" must be just like the bible
describes him, character flaws and all?
You look at the cover by don't know or understand the contents. You'd
deny your own mother if it suited you. You can't escape the truth, Default.

So the bible is an obscure book that nobody reads and nobody bothers
with, is it? Or are there a couple of dozen that see the truth in it,
study it and revere it?

And why is the bible so 'no-good', because it is a Default judged
useless piece of shit?? Or is there another reason why billions
disagree with you??

Still, its what you say that matters.
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Don't you ever question how this can be? You were spoon-fed this
malarkey from birth, and it is too hard to abandon childhood
brainwashing; or did you let some nincompoop rope you into it?
None of my family, friends, associates were religious right through my
early life up to about 24 years, then I met some people who seemed to
have meaning to their lives while I was partying and playing the field,
so I investigated with an open heart and thought it is worth a go, and
the rest is history.

Not for all the money in the world, Buddy!

You were spoon-fed the counterfeit, I found the real coin.






Michael Christ
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2019-01-13 11:52:05 UTC
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Yes, it does.
Nothing can create itself.
So immediately, god must have done it? There's no logic in that.
Have you another option, instead of running your mouth off??
Everything around you was created.
We can't be here without an eternal Creator.
Why? Man creates things and he evolved from chemicals and is not
eternal.
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Plus there that thing about 'design', not some atheist freakzoid chance
applying to billions of forms of life and a gzillion under the microscope.
Just poofed, did it?
I just don't know what happened billions of years ago - that is what
answer is.

I don't have to know to live and enjoy my life. I'm never going to
know all there is to know; no one will ever know all there is to
know. I'm perfectly OK with that, it just means that no matter how
long I live I can keep finding interesting things to learn about.

I've also learned that people telling you that they have your best
interests at heart, almost never do. If you trust people without
reservation you aren't being saintly or good, you are just being
gullible.
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You are a mad man.
Nothing can create itself.
How can you know that without being there at the moment of creation?
The bible tells you so? So the writer of Genesis was there and taking
notes, and god just failed to mention it?
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Then you'd go one further and claim that this proves the bible is a
true factual account or that your "god" must be just like the bible
describes him, character flaws and all?
You look at the cover by don't know or understand the contents. You'd
deny your own mother if it suited you. You can't escape the truth, Default.
So the bible is an obscure book that nobody reads and nobody bothers
with, is it? Or are there a couple of dozen that see the truth in it,
study it and revere it?
And why is the bible so 'no-good', because it is a Default judged
useless piece of shit?? Or is there another reason why billions
disagree with you??
Still, its what you say that matters.
So your justification is everyone does it so it must be right? How do
you feel about the Talmud, Book of Mormon, Urantia Book, Quran, New
World Bible, Dyanetics, etc.?
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Don't you ever question how this can be? You were spoon-fed this
malarkey from birth, and it is too hard to abandon childhood
brainwashing; or did you let some nincompoop rope you into it?
None of my family, friends, associates were religious right through my
early life up to about 24 years, then I met some people who seemed to
have meaning to their lives while I was partying and playing the field,
so I investigated with an open heart and thought it is worth a go, and
the rest is history.
Or in other words you allowed yourself to be roped in because you have
some vague feeling that without being given a purpose you can't find a
purpose in life.

So how did you latch on to this idea that there is a god, and that the
bible is the only holy book that gets it right?
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Not for all the money in the world, Buddy!
You were spoon-fed the counterfeit, I found the real coin.
You found the real con, buddy.
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2019-01-13 22:55:55 UTC
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Yes, it does.
Nothing can create itself.
So immediately, god must have done it? There's no logic in that.
Have you another option, instead of running your mouth off??
Everything around you was created.
We can't be here without an eternal Creator.
Why? Man creates things and he evolved from chemicals and is not
eternal.
So, eternal Creator or we wouldn't be here to 'discover' things...not
create, by the way.

We have never invented anything, we only discover.
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Plus there that thing about 'design', not some atheist freakzoid chance
applying to billions of forms of life and a gzillion under the microscope.
Just poofed, did it?
I just don't know what happened billions of years ago - that is what
answer is.
A long, long, long, long time does not mean anything.

Nothing can create itself, I don't care if it is a gazillion years.
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I don't have to know to live and enjoy my life. I'm never going to
know all there is to know; no one will ever know all there is to
know. I'm perfectly OK with that, it just means that no matter how
long I live I can keep finding interesting things to learn about.
There are things we can know and there are things we can't know in this
life, God is of the former.

This I know though, everything of this life will be known in the life to
come. You'll have to take that on trust. Everything, and I mean
everything, even what happened to those planes in the Bermuda Triangle,
what happened to Amelia Earhart, where you lost your 'Cat in the Hat'
book, the works!
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I've also learned that people telling you that they have your best
interests at heart, almost never do. If you trust people without
reservation you aren't being saintly or good, you are just being
gullible.
There is only One you can trust and those that are His...same thing.
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You are a mad man.
Nothing can create itself.
How can you know that without being there at the moment of creation?
You can't be before you are to make yourself, Default.
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The bible tells you so?
Never read it in the bible.

God tells me. He is reality.
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So the writer of Genesis was there and taking
notes, and god just failed to mention it?
You have to look beyond the story. Like looking beyond what your wife
says to what she is.
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Then you'd go one further and claim that this proves the bible is a
true factual account or that your "god" must be just like the bible
describes him, character flaws and all?
You look at the cover by don't know or understand the contents. You'd
deny your own mother if it suited you. You can't escape the truth, Default.
So the bible is an obscure book that nobody reads and nobody bothers
with, is it? Or are there a couple of dozen that see the truth in it,
study it and revere it?
And why is the bible so 'no-good', because it is a Default judged
useless piece of shit?? Or is there another reason why billions
disagree with you??
Still, its what you say that matters.
So your justification is everyone does it so it must be right?
If 75% of the town is at the football match, is it a sin to say it is
popular??
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How do
you feel about the Talmud, Book of Mormon, Urantia Book, Quran, New
World Bible, Dyanetics, etc.?
The same as I feel about cheeseburgers. Some eat cheeseburgers, I'm not
into cheeseburgers.

I have told you some many times now, the Lord is not a religion
including the so-called christian religion you see.
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Don't you ever question how this can be? You were spoon-fed this
malarkey from birth, and it is too hard to abandon childhood
brainwashing; or did you let some nincompoop rope you into it?
None of my family, friends, associates were religious right through my
early life up to about 24 years, then I met some people who seemed to
have meaning to their lives while I was partying and playing the field,
so I investigated with an open heart and thought it is worth a go, and
the rest is history.
Or in other words you allowed yourself to be roped in because you have
some vague feeling that without being given a purpose you can't find a
purpose in life.
Its seems that I am buggered if I do, and fucked if I don't. :-).

Without being given a purpose, there is no purpose in life. That is why
atheism will never satisfy anyone.
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So how did you latch on to this idea that there is a god, and that the
bible is the only holy book that gets it right?
God revealed Himself to me because I desired to know Him. And if it was
Islam, I would be a Muslim, if it was the christianity that studies the
bible, it would have been the christianity you know and love. But it
wasn't either.

The record in the bible though is true, God choose to leave a written
testimony of Himself somewhere, it just happened to be in the bible. It
could have been in Harry Potter books if He wished. And if it was you
would be carrying on about Harry Potter books now too.

You should not judge a book you don't know by your opinion.
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Not for all the money in the world, Buddy!
You were spoon-fed the counterfeit, I found the real coin.
You found the real con, buddy.
Why is it suddenly 'proof' if you say that?? :-).

You can say that over and over but it won't do you any good.

Nothing can create itself. We needed an eternal God or we would not be
here.





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Yes, it does.
Nothing can create itself.
So immediately, god must have done it? There's no logic in that.
Have you another option, instead of running your mouth off??
Everything around you was created.
We can't be here without an eternal Creator.
Why? Man creates things and he evolved from chemicals and is not
eternal.
So, eternal Creator or we wouldn't be here to 'discover' things...not
create, by the way.
We have never invented anything, we only discover.
And you're sitting in front of a solid state TFT screen with an LED or
fluorescent back light, typing on a keyboard that uses optical or
magnetic switches to interface with a processor with a few millions or
billions of transistors, running a program you will never understand
due to it's complexity and telling me we don't invent?

We invented your god.
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Plus there that thing about 'design', not some atheist freakzoid chance
applying to billions of forms of life and a gzillion under the microscope.
Just poofed, did it?
I just don't know what happened billions of years ago - that is what
answer is.
A long, long, long, long time does not mean anything.
Nothing can create itself, I don't care if it is a gazillion years.
Your position is that god is eternal and intelligent and cares about
humanity. I have no idea what is happening, but I do think the
universe may be eternal and/or cyclical.

In our own galaxy (a "medium size" one) it would take light 100,000
years to cross. There are billions of stars with hundreds of billions
of planets in this galaxy alone and there are billions of galaxies
that we can see. AND the same god that "created" all this has nothing
better to do than worry about mankind and what he does in bed?

The Christian concept of god is absolutely unbelievable.
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I don't have to know to live and enjoy my life. I'm never going to
know all there is to know; no one will ever know all there is to
know. I'm perfectly OK with that, it just means that no matter how
long I live I can keep finding interesting things to learn about.
There are things we can know and there are things we can't know in this
life, God is of the former.
Then you should quit telling people what your god expects of them.

I love that about religious nutters, backed into a corner they spout
off "no one can know the mind of god," while all the rest of the time
they are telling me all about god and what "he" expects of me.
Post by Michael Christ
This I know though, everything of this life will be known in the life to
come. You'll have to take that on trust. Everything, and I mean
everything, even what happened to those planes in the Bermuda Triangle,
what happened to Amelia Earhart, where you lost your 'Cat in the Hat'
book, the works!
You may want to believe, you may even believe, but you can not know.

Nothing that you mention requires a god or miracle, there are natural
phenomena that can account for them.
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I've also learned that people telling you that they have your best
interests at heart, almost never do. If you trust people without
reservation you aren't being saintly or good, you are just being
gullible.
There is only One you can trust and those that are His...same thing.
Trust the figment of your imagination? That would make me as insane
as you, or perhaps a little bit worse off.
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You are a mad man.
Nothing can create itself.
How can you know that without being there at the moment of creation?
You can't be before you are to make yourself, Default.
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The bible tells you so?
Never read it in the bible.
God tells me. He is reality.
Now you are conversing with your figments?
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So the writer of Genesis was there and taking
notes, and god just failed to mention it?
You have to look beyond the story. Like looking beyond what your wife
says to what she is.
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Then you'd go one further and claim that this proves the bible is a
true factual account or that your "god" must be just like the bible
describes him, character flaws and all?
You look at the cover by don't know or understand the contents. You'd
deny your own mother if it suited you. You can't escape the truth, Default.
So the bible is an obscure book that nobody reads and nobody bothers
with, is it? Or are there a couple of dozen that see the truth in it,
study it and revere it?
And why is the bible so 'no-good', because it is a Default judged
useless piece of shit?? Or is there another reason why billions
disagree with you??
Still, its what you say that matters.
So your justification is everyone does it so it must be right?
If 75% of the town is at the football match, is it a sin to say it is
popular??
If 75% of a town was at a football game it would be a tiny town
indeed.
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How do
you feel about the Talmud, Book of Mormon, Urantia Book, Quran, New
World Bible, Dyanetics, etc.?
The same as I feel about cheeseburgers. Some eat cheeseburgers, I'm not
into cheeseburgers.
So all the other books are equally valid as long as you subscribe to
some idea about god? No matter how outlandish?

Then why not the gods of the ancients. At least the Norse gave their
gods believable personalities and required honor and courage, whereas
the Jews invented a juvenile delinquent with a bunch of character
flaws.
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I have told you some many times now, the Lord is not a religion
including the so-called christian religion you see.
Yet the only god you have was invented by a religion.
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Don't you ever question how this can be? You were spoon-fed this
malarkey from birth, and it is too hard to abandon childhood
brainwashing; or did you let some nincompoop rope you into it?
None of my family, friends, associates were religious right through my
early life up to about 24 years, then I met some people who seemed to
have meaning to their lives while I was partying and playing the field,
so I investigated with an open heart and thought it is worth a go, and
the rest is history.
Or in other words you allowed yourself to be roped in because you have
some vague feeling that without being given a purpose you can't find a
purpose in life.
Its seems that I am buggered if I do, and fucked if I don't. :-).
Well there do seem to be some Catch-22 issues in the bible.
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Without being given a purpose, there is no purpose in life. That is why
atheism will never satisfy anyone.
The purpose of man is to invent a god in order to control men.
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So how did you latch on to this idea that there is a god, and that the
bible is the only holy book that gets it right?
God revealed Himself to me because I desired to know Him. And if it was
Islam, I would be a Muslim, if it was the christianity that studies the
bible, it would have been the christianity you know and love. But it
wasn't either.
Hey, people contemplate their navels and say similar things. So now
you are telling me that the bible is inspired but if I create a
religion borrowing parts from any Abrahamic religion all is well?

Sell that idea to the Mid east and I would nominate you for the Nobel
Prize.
Post by Michael Christ
The record in the bible though is true, God choose to leave a written
testimony of Himself somewhere, it just happened to be in the bible. It
could have been in Harry Potter books if He wished. And if it was you
would be carrying on about Harry Potter books now too.
You should not judge a book you don't know by your opinion.
I like John D McDonald, Lee Childs, Bernard Cornwell, C.S. Forester,
and the like. I don't read any books that require belief in the
paranormal. I don't even read a lot of science fiction because too
much of it relies on fantasy.
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Not for all the money in the world, Buddy!
You were spoon-fed the counterfeit, I found the real coin.
You found the real con, buddy.
Why is it suddenly 'proof' if you say that?? :-).
You can say that over and over but it won't do you any good.
Nothing can create itself. We needed an eternal God or we would not be
here.
You need to think there is a god and that you understand him.
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Yes, it does.
Nothing can create itself.
So immediately, god must have done it? There's no logic in that.
Have you another option, instead of running your mouth off??
Everything around you was created.
We can't be here without an eternal Creator.
Why? Man creates things and he evolved from chemicals and is not
eternal.
So, eternal Creator or we wouldn't be here to 'discover' things...not
create, by the way.
We have never invented anything, we only discover.
And you're sitting in front of a solid state TFT screen with an LED or
fluorescent back light, typing on a keyboard that uses optical or
magnetic switches to interface with a processor with a few millions or
billions of transistors, running a program you will never understand
due to it's complexity and telling me we don't invent?
We invented your god.
We never invented anything, we only discover. Interestingly, like we
didn't invent ourselves also, we discover...well some do.
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Plus there that thing about 'design', not some atheist freakzoid chance
applying to billions of forms of life and a gzillion under the microscope.
Just poofed, did it?
I just don't know what happened billions of years ago - that is what
answer is.
A long, long, long, long time does not mean anything.
Nothing can create itself, I don't care if it is a gazillion years.
Your position is that god is eternal and intelligent and cares about
humanity. I have no idea what is happening, but I do think the
universe may be eternal and/or cyclical.
That's nice.
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In our own galaxy (a "medium size" one) it would take light 100,000
years to cross. There are billions of stars with hundreds of billions
of planets in this galaxy alone and there are billions of galaxies
that we can see. AND the same god that "created" all this has nothing
better to do than worry about mankind and what he does in bed?
He created you.
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The Christian concept of god is absolutely unbelievable.
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I don't have to know to live and enjoy my life. I'm never going to
know all there is to know; no one will ever know all there is to
know. I'm perfectly OK with that, it just means that no matter how
long I live I can keep finding interesting things to learn about.
There are things we can know and there are things we can't know in this
life, God is of the former.
Then you should quit telling people what your god expects of them.
Why? It is all about knowing God.
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I love that about religious nutters, backed into a corner they spout
off "no one can know the mind of god," while all the rest of the time
they are telling me all about god and what "he" expects of me.
God wants everyone to know Him.
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This I know though, everything of this life will be known in the life to
come. You'll have to take that on trust. Everything, and I mean
everything, even what happened to those planes in the Bermuda Triangle,
what happened to Amelia Earhart, where you lost your 'Cat in the Hat'
book, the works!
You may want to believe, you may even believe, but you can not know.
Now you are God?
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Nothing that you mention requires a god or miracle, there are natural
phenomena that can account for them.
Oh so something can create itself. Okay.
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I've also learned that people telling you that they have your best
interests at heart, almost never do. If you trust people without
reservation you aren't being saintly or good, you are just being
gullible.
There is only One you can trust and those that are His...same thing.
Trust the figment of your imagination? That would make me as insane
as you, or perhaps a little bit worse off.
The Lord is the only one you can trust.
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You are a mad man.
Nothing can create itself.
How can you know that without being there at the moment of creation?
You can't be before you are to make yourself, Default.
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The bible tells you so?
Never read it in the bible.
God tells me. He is reality.
Now you are conversing with your figments?
Nothing can create itself.

You asked where it came from, I told you.
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So the writer of Genesis was there and taking
notes, and god just failed to mention it?
You have to look beyond the story. Like looking beyond what your wife
says to what she is.
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Then you'd go one further and claim that this proves the bible is a
true factual account or that your "god" must be just like the bible
describes him, character flaws and all?
You look at the cover by don't know or understand the contents. You'd
deny your own mother if it suited you. You can't escape the truth, Default.
So the bible is an obscure book that nobody reads and nobody bothers
with, is it? Or are there a couple of dozen that see the truth in it,
study it and revere it?
And why is the bible so 'no-good', because it is a Default judged
useless piece of shit?? Or is there another reason why billions
disagree with you??
Still, its what you say that matters.
So your justification is everyone does it so it must be right?
If 75% of the town is at the football match, is it a sin to say it is
popular??
If 75% of a town was at a football game it would be a tiny town
indeed.
So it is not about 'justification is everyone does it', as you accused.
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How do
you feel about the Talmud, Book of Mormon, Urantia Book, Quran, New
World Bible, Dyanetics, etc.?
The same as I feel about cheeseburgers. Some eat cheeseburgers, I'm not
into cheeseburgers.
So all the other books are equally valid as long as you subscribe to
some idea about god? No matter how outlandish?
They have nothing to do with me.
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Then why not the gods of the ancients. At least the Norse gave their
gods believable personalities and required honor and courage, whereas
the Jews invented a juvenile delinquent with a bunch of character
flaws.
What fallen men think and say has nothing to do with me.
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I have told you some many times now, the Lord is not a religion
including the so-called christian religion you see.
Yet the only god you have was invented by a religion.
God was not invented by a religion; ignorant men who piously say they
don't know all but speak as though they do say that.
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Don't you ever question how this can be? You were spoon-fed this
malarkey from birth, and it is too hard to abandon childhood
brainwashing; or did you let some nincompoop rope you into it?
None of my family, friends, associates were religious right through my
early life up to about 24 years, then I met some people who seemed to
have meaning to their lives while I was partying and playing the field,
so I investigated with an open heart and thought it is worth a go, and
the rest is history.
Or in other words you allowed yourself to be roped in because you have
some vague feeling that without being given a purpose you can't find a
purpose in life.
Its seems that I am buggered if I do, and fucked if I don't. :-).
Well there do seem to be some Catch-22 issues in the bible.
So you justify what you do by what you think in the bible??
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Without being given a purpose, there is no purpose in life. That is why
atheism will never satisfy anyone.
The purpose of man is to invent a god in order to control men.
The purpose of man is to know God.
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So how did you latch on to this idea that there is a god, and that the
bible is the only holy book that gets it right?
God revealed Himself to me because I desired to know Him. And if it was
Islam, I would be a Muslim, if it was the christianity that studies the
bible, it would have been the christianity you know and love. But it
wasn't either.
Hey, people contemplate their navels and say similar things. So now
you are telling me that the bible is inspired but if I create a
religion borrowing parts from any Abrahamic religion all is well?
Sell that idea to the Mid east and I would nominate you for the Nobel
Prize.
You need to stop talking and start listening.

We did not create ourselves...start there. And the universe is not
eternal, it is *subjected to* time and change (i.e. expanding).
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The record in the bible though is true, God choose to leave a written
testimony of Himself somewhere, it just happened to be in the bible. It
could have been in Harry Potter books if He wished. And if it was you
would be carrying on about Harry Potter books now too.
You should not judge a book you don't know by your opinion.
I like John D McDonald, Lee Childs, Bernard Cornwell, C.S. Forester,
and the like. I don't read any books that require belief in the
paranormal. I don't even read a lot of science fiction because too
much of it relies on fantasy.
You should not judge the bible because you don't know it well enough.
You have a bigoted ignorant opinion of it based on your experience in a
man made religious organisation.
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Not for all the money in the world, Buddy!
You were spoon-fed the counterfeit, I found the real coin.
You found the real con, buddy.
Why is it suddenly 'proof' if you say that?? :-).
You can say that over and over but it won't do you any good.
Nothing can create itself. We needed an eternal God or we would not be
here.
You need to think there is a god and that you understand him.
There is a God and you are not him.





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Yes, it does.
Nothing can create itself.
So immediately, god must have done it? There's no logic in that.
Have you another option, instead of running your mouth off??
Everything around you was created.
We can't be here without an eternal Creator.
Why? Man creates things and he evolved from chemicals and is not
eternal.
So, eternal Creator or we wouldn't be here to 'discover' things...not
create, by the way.
We have never invented anything, we only discover.
And you're sitting in front of a solid state TFT screen with an LED or
fluorescent back light, typing on a keyboard that uses optical or
magnetic switches to interface with a processor with a few millions or
billions of transistors, running a program you will never understand
due to it's complexity and telling me we don't invent?
We invented your god.
We never invented anything, we only discover. Interestingly, like we
didn't invent ourselves also, we discover...well some do.
Invent:
1 to make, design, or think of a new type of thing Alexander Graham
Bell invented the telephone in 1876. ?

NOTE:
Do not confuse with discover (=to be the first person to find
something or to know that it exists): Scientists have discovered a new
type of bacteria.

2 to think of an idea, story etc that is not true, usually in order to
deceive people They invented a very convincing alibi.
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Plus there that thing about 'design', not some atheist freakzoid chance
applying to billions of forms of life and a gzillion under the microscope.
Just poofed, did it?
I just don't know what happened billions of years ago - that is what
answer is.
A long, long, long, long time does not mean anything.
Nothing can create itself, I don't care if it is a gazillion years.
Your position is that god is eternal and intelligent and cares about
humanity. I have no idea what is happening, but I do think the
universe may be eternal and/or cyclical.
That's nice.
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In our own galaxy (a "medium size" one) it would take light 100,000
years to cross. There are billions of stars with hundreds of billions
of planets in this galaxy alone and there are billions of galaxies
that we can see. AND the same god that "created" all this has nothing
better to do than worry about mankind and what he does in bed?
He created you.
You have no proof.
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The Christian concept of god is absolutely unbelievable.
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I don't have to know to live and enjoy my life. I'm never going to
know all there is to know; no one will ever know all there is to
know. I'm perfectly OK with that, it just means that no matter how
long I live I can keep finding interesting things to learn about.
There are things we can know and there are things we can't know in this
life, God is of the former.
Then you should quit telling people what your god expects of them.
Why? It is all about knowing God.
You know the mind of god then?
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I love that about religious nutters, backed into a corner they spout
off "no one can know the mind of god," while all the rest of the time
they are telling me all about god and what "he" expects of me.
God wants everyone to know Him.
Says who?
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This I know though, everything of this life will be known in the life to
come. You'll have to take that on trust. Everything, and I mean
everything, even what happened to those planes in the Bermuda Triangle,
what happened to Amelia Earhart, where you lost your 'Cat in the Hat'
book, the works!
You may want to believe, you may even believe, but you can not know.
Now you are God?
You have a reading comprehension problem? I don't believe in any gods
so how would I be a god?
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Nothing that you mention requires a god or miracle, there are natural
phenomena that can account for them.
Oh so something can create itself. Okay.
If energy is eternal and matter and energy are the same thing in
different forms, that could indicate an eternal universe. Chance,
matter and energy, operating over billions of years, may be able to
create life. It can create the self-replicating proteins that could
well be a precursor to life.
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I've also learned that people telling you that they have your best
interests at heart, almost never do. If you trust people without
reservation you aren't being saintly or good, you are just being
gullible.
There is only One you can trust and those that are His...same thing.
Trust the figment of your imagination? That would make me as insane
as you, or perhaps a little bit worse off.
The Lord is the only one you can trust.
I do trust my imagination, but I'm not willing to trust a figment of
yours.
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You are a mad man.
Nothing can create itself.
How can you know that without being there at the moment of creation?
You can't be before you are to make yourself, Default.
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The bible tells you so?
Never read it in the bible.
God tells me. He is reality.
Now you are conversing with your figments?
Nothing can create itself.
You asked where it came from, I told you.
It came from the idea that the universe cannot be eternal, but a god
can.
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So the writer of Genesis was there and taking
notes, and god just failed to mention it?
You have to look beyond the story. Like looking beyond what your wife
says to what she is.
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Then you'd go one further and claim that this proves the bible is a
true factual account or that your "god" must be just like the bible
describes him, character flaws and all?
You look at the cover by don't know or understand the contents. You'd
deny your own mother if it suited you. You can't escape the truth, Default.
So the bible is an obscure book that nobody reads and nobody bothers
with, is it? Or are there a couple of dozen that see the truth in it,
study it and revere it?
And why is the bible so 'no-good', because it is a Default judged
useless piece of shit?? Or is there another reason why billions
disagree with you??
Still, its what you say that matters.
So your justification is everyone does it so it must be right?
If 75% of the town is at the football match, is it a sin to say it is
popular??
If 75% of a town was at a football game it would be a tiny town
indeed.
So it is not about 'justification is everyone does it', as you accused.
Everybody doing something does not justify doing it. That argument is
used to justify some pretty outlandish things. With the exception of
sex and some evolutionary imperatives like it, justification is
subjective and has to be within some context.
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How do
you feel about the Talmud, Book of Mormon, Urantia Book, Quran, New
World Bible, Dyanetics, etc.?
The same as I feel about cheeseburgers. Some eat cheeseburgers, I'm not
into cheeseburgers.
So all the other books are equally valid as long as you subscribe to
some idea about god? No matter how outlandish?
They have nothing to do with me.
Right, you invented Jesus, your god then. Come on 'fess up, you found
all about Jesus from a book that some religion put together.
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Then why not the gods of the ancients. At least the Norse gave their
gods believable personalities and required honor and courage, whereas
the Jews invented a juvenile delinquent with a bunch of character
flaws.
What fallen men think and say has nothing to do with me.
Defending a losing argument to the last gasp?

The bible is wrong then, the god they depict is false? If you say
yes, then you have to justify believing in the parts you think are not
false and explaining how you can tell the difference.

Can you at least admit that a belief in god is not logical?
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I have told you some many times now, the Lord is not a religion
including the so-called christian religion you see.
Yet the only god you have was invented by a religion.
God was not invented by a religion; ignorant men who piously say they
don't know all but speak as though they do say that.
God was invented by ignorant superstitious men looking for
explanations for things they didn't understand. Religion and god were
probably invented simultaneously or pretty damn near simultaneous.
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Don't you ever question how this can be? You were spoon-fed this
malarkey from birth, and it is too hard to abandon childhood
brainwashing; or did you let some nincompoop rope you into it?
None of my family, friends, associates were religious right through my
early life up to about 24 years, then I met some people who seemed to
have meaning to their lives while I was partying and playing the field,
so I investigated with an open heart and thought it is worth a go, and
the rest is history.
Or in other words you allowed yourself to be roped in because you have
some vague feeling that without being given a purpose you can't find a
purpose in life.
Its seems that I am buggered if I do, and fucked if I don't. :-).
Well there do seem to be some Catch-22 issues in the bible.
So you justify what you do by what you think in the bible??
I reject the bible as anything more than a propaganda piece invented
to put some backbone in some otherwise pusillanimous people. It was
likely written to encourage rebellion and put power into the hands of
those writing it.
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Without being given a purpose, there is no purpose in life. That is why
atheism will never satisfy anyone.
The purpose of man is to invent a god in order to control men.
The purpose of man is to know God.
What is the purpose of god is the question that you should be asking.
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So how did you latch on to this idea that there is a god, and that the
bible is the only holy book that gets it right?
God revealed Himself to me because I desired to know Him. And if it was
Islam, I would be a Muslim, if it was the christianity that studies the
bible, it would have been the christianity you know and love. But it
wasn't either.
Hey, people contemplate their navels and say similar things. So now
you are telling me that the bible is inspired but if I create a
religion borrowing parts from any Abrahamic religion all is well?
Sell that idea to the Mid east and I would nominate you for the Nobel
Prize.
You need to stop talking and start listening.
We did not create ourselves...start there. And the universe is not
eternal, it is *subjected to* time and change (i.e. expanding).
No one knows how the universe formed.
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The record in the bible though is true, God choose to leave a written
testimony of Himself somewhere, it just happened to be in the bible. It
could have been in Harry Potter books if He wished. And if it was you
would be carrying on about Harry Potter books now too.
You should not judge a book you don't know by your opinion.
I like John D McDonald, Lee Childs, Bernard Cornwell, C.S. Forester,
and the like. I don't read any books that require belief in the
paranormal. I don't even read a lot of science fiction because too
much of it relies on fantasy.
You should not judge the bible because you don't know it well enough.
You have a bigoted ignorant opinion of it based on your experience in a
man made religious organisation.
That man made religious organization taught you everything you think
you know about god.
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Not for all the money in the world, Buddy!
You were spoon-fed the counterfeit, I found the real coin.
You found the real con, buddy.
Why is it suddenly 'proof' if you say that?? :-).
You can say that over and over but it won't do you any good.
Nothing can create itself. We needed an eternal God or we would not be
here.
You need to think there is a god and that you understand him.
There is a God and you are not him.
Never said I was.
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Yes, it does.
Nothing can create itself.
So immediately, god must have done it? There's no logic in that.
Have you another option, instead of running your mouth off??
Everything around you was created.
We can't be here without an eternal Creator.
Why? Man creates things and he evolved from chemicals and is not
eternal.
So, eternal Creator or we wouldn't be here to 'discover' things...not
create, by the way.
We have never invented anything, we only discover.
And you're sitting in front of a solid state TFT screen with an LED or
fluorescent back light, typing on a keyboard that uses optical or
magnetic switches to interface with a processor with a few millions or
billions of transistors, running a program you will never understand
due to it's complexity and telling me we don't invent?
We invented your god.
We never invented anything, we only discover. Interestingly, like we
didn't invent ourselves also, we discover...well some do.
1 to make, design, or think of a new type of thing Alexander Graham
Bell invented the telephone in 1876. ?
If you can't, by reason of your human pride, get past such a basic
spiritual reality, what hope is there??

Nothing man has ever thought was not put there by God who invented
everything.

There is nothing new under the sun.

God is eternal, the universe is *subject* to time and change and is not.

Get over it, God created you, you didn't create yourself.

Nothing can create itself, neither can you 'invent' anything...you
merely are given to discover what God created.

We discovered oil and carbon based engines because He allowed it. God
holds the reigns.



Michael Christ

PS You need to get over it. Catholicism sold you a bill of goods, so
what??!! You've been default bitching about that all your life like you
lost a grand final. Too bad, so sad, you lost. Move on, build a bridge
and get over it and grow up.


(snip)
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Yes, it does.
Nothing can create itself.
So immediately, god must have done it? There's no logic in that.
Have you another option, instead of running your mouth off??
Everything around you was created.
We can't be here without an eternal Creator.
Why? Man creates things and he evolved from chemicals and is not
eternal.
So, eternal Creator or we wouldn't be here to 'discover' things...not
create, by the way.
We have never invented anything, we only discover.
And you're sitting in front of a solid state TFT screen with an LED or
fluorescent back light, typing on a keyboard that uses optical or
magnetic switches to interface with a processor with a few millions or
billions of transistors, running a program you will never understand
due to it's complexity and telling me we don't invent?
We invented your god.
We never invented anything, we only discover. Interestingly, like we
didn't invent ourselves also, we discover...well some do.
1 to make, design, or think of a new type of thing Alexander Graham
Bell invented the telephone in 1876. ?
If you can't, by reason of your human pride, get past such a basic
spiritual reality, what hope is there??
Nothing man has ever thought was not put there by God who invented
everything.
Fuck, you have such a delusion that you are beginning to alienate yourself from reality!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT FUCKING GOD??????????????????
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There is nothing new under the sun.
And no pixie shall survive with the sunshine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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God is eternal, the universe is *subject* to time and change and is not.
Something must have created your pixie.....
WHO OR WHAT CREATED THIS ETERNAL CREATOR WHEN NOTHING CAN CREATE ITSELF?????
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Get over it, God created you, you didn't create yourself.
You have a twisted logic.
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Nothing can create itself, neither can you 'invent' anything...you
merely are given to discover what God created.
THEREFORE NO CREATOR CAN CREATE ITSELF....get this through your thick skull!
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We discovered oil and carbon based engines because He allowed it. God
holds the reigns.
<sigh> What a fucking troll!
You said this but you refuse to join him as he demands your companion.
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Michael Christ
PS You need to get over it. Catholicism sold you a bill of goods, so
what??!! You've been default bitching about that all your life like you
lost a grand final. Too bad, so sad, you lost. Move on, build a bridge
and get over it and grow up.
(snip)
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Yes, it does.
Nothing can create itself.
So immediately, god must have done it? There's no logic in that.
Have you another option, instead of running your mouth off??
Everything around you was created.
We can't be here without an eternal Creator.
Why? Man creates things and he evolved from chemicals and is not
eternal.
So, eternal Creator or we wouldn't be here to 'discover' things...not
create, by the way.
We have never invented anything, we only discover.
And you're sitting in front of a solid state TFT screen with an LED or
fluorescent back light, typing on a keyboard that uses optical or
magnetic switches to interface with a processor with a few millions or
billions of transistors, running a program you will never understand
due to it's complexity and telling me we don't invent?
We invented your god.
We never invented anything, we only discover. Interestingly, like we
didn't invent ourselves also, we discover...well some do.
1 to make, design, or think of a new type of thing Alexander Graham
Bell invented the telephone in 1876. ?
If you can't, by reason of your human pride, get past such a basic
spiritual reality, what hope is there??
Nothing man has ever thought was not put there by God who invented
everything.
There is nothing new under the sun.
God is eternal, the universe is *subject* to time and change and is not.
Get over it, God created you, you didn't create yourself.
Nothing can create itself, neither can you 'invent' anything...you
merely are given to discover what God created.
We discovered oil and carbon based engines because He allowed it. God
holds the reigns.
You think that (oh god) the overwhelming (to you) complexity of humans
(all animals) must make an intelligent creator a necessity.

There can be no other explanation. - Which is the logical flaw in
that reasoning, since you haven't looked for another explanation.

Life is complicated so god dun it. DNA the miracle of life?

Have you heard of something called "Polymerase chain reactions?"
That's the technique they use to "amplify" samples of DNA that are too
small to test. You may think there's a lot of hocus pocus involved (I
think it was worthy of a Nobel prize) but the technique is simplicity
itself. DNA wants to replicate, all it takes is a few enzymes, a few
chemicals, and cycling and "soaking" among two or three temperatures,
and the stuff replicates. Those are conditions found on earth in
nature. (even today, although at the dawn of the planet's formation
the entire earth was a perfect incubator for this)

One of the techniques to "read" (compare) DNA is equally simple, they
like to use something called "thin layer chromatography." A big word
for what amounts to something you've probably already seen if you've
observed ink or tea stains on a napkin. (works better with
water-based fountain pen inks though)

Keep an open mind - you could be wrong about a creator being necessary
to life.

You could still invoke a god I suppose, because all living creatures
seem self-aware (have a soul) to some degree or other, and you may
call it a mystery. While neurology is still in it's infancy you might
want to say godunit, but even that seems destined to be explained by
science.

I have to say: the more you know about nature, the more you have to
question a divine creation myth. That is borne out by the fact that
educated people are more likely to relinquish religion, and scientists
lead the statistics in that respect.
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Michael Christ
PS You need to get over it. Catholicism sold you a bill of goods, so
what??!! You've been default bitching about that all your life like you
lost a grand final. Too bad, so sad, you lost. Move on, build a bridge
and get over it and grow up.
Never. They've had thousands of years to push their agenda, I will
push back. The only sad thing is that we have religions willing to
indoctrinate children with their sick ideology.
Michael Christ
2019-01-15 21:47:08 UTC
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Yes, it does.
Nothing can create itself.
So immediately, god must have done it? There's no logic in that.
Have you another option, instead of running your mouth off??
Everything around you was created.
We can't be here without an eternal Creator.
Why? Man creates things and he evolved from chemicals and is not
eternal.
So, eternal Creator or we wouldn't be here to 'discover' things...not
create, by the way.
We have never invented anything, we only discover.
And you're sitting in front of a solid state TFT screen with an LED or
fluorescent back light, typing on a keyboard that uses optical or
magnetic switches to interface with a processor with a few millions or
billions of transistors, running a program you will never understand
due to it's complexity and telling me we don't invent?
We invented your god.
We never invented anything, we only discover. Interestingly, like we
didn't invent ourselves also, we discover...well some do.
1 to make, design, or think of a new type of thing Alexander Graham
Bell invented the telephone in 1876. ?
If you can't, by reason of your human pride, get past such a basic
spiritual reality, what hope is there??
Nothing man has ever thought was not put there by God who invented
everything.
There is nothing new under the sun.
God is eternal, the universe is *subject* to time and change and is not.
Get over it, God created you, you didn't create yourself.
Nothing can create itself, neither can you 'invent' anything...you
merely are given to discover what God created.
We discovered oil and carbon based engines because He allowed it. God
holds the reigns.
You think that (oh god) the overwhelming (to you) complexity of humans
(all animals) must make an intelligent creator a necessity.
Ahhhh, yep.

They didn't make themselves, Buddy.

Nothing can, no matter what the means.

And the universe is not eternal, it is subject to change and time. Even
our sun is cactus...its dying too. And after all the self-made work too!!!

It was put there for a purpose, for a time.
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There can be no other explanation. - Which is the logical flaw in
that reasoning, since you haven't looked for another explanation.
There isn't another.

And you are not even looking at the majesty, beauty and wonderful design
of our creation.

Yeah Baby, a baby came from a slug 50 billion years ago or whatever
concoction you want to come up with!
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Life is complicated so god dun it. DNA the miracle of life?
Have you heard of something called "Polymerase chain reactions?"
Polymerase can't create itself.

Get your own dirt for your theory.

I read down but I have explained ad nauseam about your hope for no God -
you are wasting your time - and you are simply wasting my time...again.




Michael Christ
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That's the technique they use to "amplify" samples of DNA that are too
small to test. You may think there's a lot of hocus pocus involved (I
think it was worthy of a Nobel prize) but the technique is simplicity
itself. DNA wants to replicate, all it takes is a few enzymes, a few
chemicals, and cycling and "soaking" among two or three temperatures,
and the stuff replicates. Those are conditions found on earth in
nature. (even today, although at the dawn of the planet's formation
the entire earth was a perfect incubator for this)
One of the techniques to "read" (compare) DNA is equally simple, they
like to use something called "thin layer chromatography." A big word
for what amounts to something you've probably already seen if you've
observed ink or tea stains on a napkin. (works better with
water-based fountain pen inks though)
Keep an open mind - you could be wrong about a creator being necessary
to life.
You could still invoke a god I suppose, because all living creatures
seem self-aware (have a soul) to some degree or other, and you may
call it a mystery. While neurology is still in it's infancy you might
want to say godunit, but even that seems destined to be explained by
science.
I have to say: the more you know about nature, the more you have to
question a divine creation myth. That is borne out by the fact that
educated people are more likely to relinquish religion, and scientists
lead the statistics in that respect.
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Michael Christ
PS You need to get over it. Catholicism sold you a bill of goods, so
what??!! You've been default bitching about that all your life like you
lost a grand final. Too bad, so sad, you lost. Move on, build a bridge
and get over it and grow up.
Never. They've had thousands of years to push their agenda, I will
push back. The only sad thing is that we have religions willing to
indoctrinate children with their sick ideology.
Ted
2019-01-15 22:13:22 UTC
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Yes, it does.
Nothing can create itself.
So immediately, god must have done it? There's no logic in that.
Have you another option, instead of running your mouth off??
Everything around you was created.
We can't be here without an eternal Creator.
Why? Man creates things and he evolved from chemicals and is not
eternal.
So, eternal Creator or we wouldn't be here to 'discover' things...not
create, by the way.
We have never invented anything, we only discover.
And you're sitting in front of a solid state TFT screen with an LED or
fluorescent back light, typing on a keyboard that uses optical or
magnetic switches to interface with a processor with a few millions or
billions of transistors, running a program you will never understand
due to it's complexity and telling me we don't invent?
We invented your god.
We never invented anything, we only discover. Interestingly, like we
didn't invent ourselves also, we discover...well some do.
1 to make, design, or think of a new type of thing Alexander Graham
Bell invented the telephone in 1876. ?
If you can't, by reason of your human pride, get past such a basic
spiritual reality, what hope is there??
Nothing man has ever thought was not put there by God who invented
everything.
There is nothing new under the sun.
God is eternal, the universe is *subject* to time and change and is not.
Get over it, God created you, you didn't create yourself.
Nothing can create itself, neither can you 'invent' anything...you
merely are given to discover what God created.
We discovered oil and carbon based engines because He allowed it. God
holds the reigns.
You think that (oh god) the overwhelming (to you) complexity of humans
(all animals) must make an intelligent creator a necessity.
Ahhhh, yep.
They didn't make themselves, Buddy.
Nothing can, no matter what the means.
And the universe is not eternal, it is subject to change and time. Even
our sun is cactus...its dying too. And after all the self-made work too!!!
It was put there for a purpose, for a time.
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There can be no other explanation. - Which is the logical flaw in
that reasoning, since you haven't looked for another explanation.
There isn't another.
And you are not even looking at the majesty, beauty and wonderful design of our creation.
Yeah Baby, a baby came from a slug 50 billion years ago or whatever
concoction you want to come up with!
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Life is complicated so god dun it. DNA the miracle of life?
Have you heard of something called "Polymerase chain reactions?"
Polymerase can't create itself.
Get your own dirt for your theory.
I read down but I have explained ad nauseam about your hope for no God -
you are wasting your time - and you are simply wasting my time...again.
Michael Christ
You stupid asshole.
Michael Christ
2019-01-15 22:32:38 UTC
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Yes, it does.
Nothing can create itself.
So immediately, god must have done it? There's no logic in that.
Have you another option, instead of running your mouth off??
Everything around you was created.
We can't be here without an eternal Creator.
Why? Man creates things and he evolved from chemicals and is not
eternal.
So, eternal Creator or we wouldn't be here to 'discover' things...not
create, by the way.
We have never invented anything, we only discover.
And you're sitting in front of a solid state TFT screen with an LED or
fluorescent back light, typing on a keyboard that uses optical or
magnetic switches to interface with a processor with a few millions or
billions of transistors, running a program you will never understand
due to it's complexity and telling me we don't invent?
We invented your god.
We never invented anything, we only discover. Interestingly, like we
didn't invent ourselves also, we discover...well some do.
1 to make, design, or think of a new type of thing Alexander Graham
Bell invented the telephone in 1876. ?
If you can't, by reason of your human pride, get past such a basic
spiritual reality, what hope is there??
Nothing man has ever thought was not put there by God who invented
everything.
There is nothing new under the sun.
God is eternal, the universe is *subject* to time and change and is not.
Get over it, God created you, you didn't create yourself.
Nothing can create itself, neither can you 'invent' anything...you
merely are given to discover what God created.
We discovered oil and carbon based engines because He allowed it. God
holds the reigns.
You think that (oh god) the overwhelming (to you) complexity of humans
(all animals) must make an intelligent creator a necessity.
Ahhhh, yep.
They didn't make themselves, Buddy.
Nothing can, no matter what the means.
And the universe is not eternal, it is subject to change and time. Even
our sun is cactus...its dying too. And after all the self-made work too!!!
It was put there for a purpose, for a time.
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There can be no other explanation. - Which is the logical flaw in
that reasoning, since you haven't looked for another explanation.
There isn't another.
And you are not even looking at the majesty, beauty and wonderful design of our creation.
Yeah Baby, a baby came from a slug 50 billion years ago or whatever
concoction you want to come up with!
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Life is complicated so god dun it. DNA the miracle of life?
Have you heard of something called "Polymerase chain reactions?"
Polymerase can't create itself.
Get your own dirt for your theory.
I read down but I have explained ad nauseam about your hope for no God -
you are wasting your time - and you are simply wasting my time...again.
Michael Christ
You stupid asshole.
It is enough. Thank you, Lord Teddy Bear.




Michael Christ
Peter Pan
2019-01-15 23:24:28 UTC
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You think that (oh god) the overwhelming (to you) complexity of humans
(all animals) must make an intelligent creator a necessity.
Ahhhh, yep.
They didn't make themselves, Buddy.
Nothing can, no matter what the means.
And the universe is not eternal, it is subject to change and time. Even
our sun is cactus...its dying too. And after all the self-made work too!!!
No, the sun isn't a cactus, and it isn't dying yet.

But your cactus may be already braindead.
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It was put there for a purpose, for a time.
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There can be no other explanation. - Which is the logical flaw in
that reasoning, since you haven't looked for another explanation.
There isn't another.
So you haven't looked.
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Life is complicated so god dun it. DNA the miracle of life?
Have you heard of something called "Polymerase chain reactions?"
Polymerase can't create itself.
Get your own dirt for your theory.
LOL. Get your own newsgroup.
Post by Michael Christ
I read down but I have explained ad nauseam about your hope for no God -
you are wasting your time - and you are simply wasting my time...again.
McLoon translation:
"I'm too dumb to learn, my ignorance comforts me, I hate
science, and i'm always right, whether i'm right or
wrong."


I've told 'em before, MX, you just don't do rational
discussion. Now get with the name-calling.
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2019-01-16 00:12:05 UTC
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You think that (oh god) the overwhelming (to you) complexity of humans
(all animals) must make an intelligent creator a necessity.
Ahhhh, yep.
They didn't make themselves, Buddy.
Why does the raving loonie keep saying this? Because he knows that the
only people who do, are lying theists putting words into people's
mouths that were neither said nor meant?
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Post by Michael Christ
Nothing can, no matter what the means.
And the universe is not eternal, it is subject to change and time. Even
our sun is cactus...its dying too. And after all the self-made work too!!!
No, the sun isn't a cactus, and it isn't dying yet.
But your cactus may be already braindead.
McShitforbrains McLean is braindead.
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It was put there for a purpose, for a time.
Idiot.
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There can be no other explanation. - Which is the logical flaw in
that reasoning, since you haven't looked for another explanation.
There isn't another.
Liar.
Post by Peter Pan
So you haven't looked.
The proven serial liar has had it explained over and over and over and
over and over and over and over.... again.

But he's a demented fundementedist so he takes no notice and repeats
the same old, unsolicited, contentious bullshit.
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Life is complicated so god dun it. DNA the miracle of life?
Have you heard of something called "Polymerase chain reactions?"
Polymerase can't create itself.
Where did anybody said it did, proven serial liar who, once again,
invents things that were neither aid nor meant?
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Michael Christ
Get your own dirt for your theory.
A perfect example of religion as a mental illness, making him stupidly
and transparently dishonest as well as a psychopath who religiously
harasses people who wouldn't otherwise give a shit about him or his
religion.
Post by Peter Pan
LOL. Get your own newsgroup.
Post by Michael Christ
I read down but I have explained ad nauseam about your hope for no God -
you are wasting your time - and you are simply wasting my time...again.
WHAT FUCKING "HOPE FOR NO GOD" WAS THE PATHOLOGICAL LIAR LYING ABOUT?
Post by Peter Pan
"I'm too dumb to learn, my ignorance comforts me, I hate
science, and i'm always right, whether i'm right or
wrong."
I've told 'em before, MX, you just don't do rational
discussion. Now get with the name-calling.
He's a religious fundie out of his depth.
Michael Christ
2019-01-16 02:15:15 UTC
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You think that (oh god) the overwhelming (to you) complexity of humans
(all animals) must make an intelligent creator a necessity.
Ahhhh, yep.
They didn't make themselves, Buddy.
Why does the raving loonie keep saying this? Because he knows that the
only people who do, are lying theists putting words into people's
mouths that were neither said nor meant?
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Michael Christ
Nothing can, no matter what the means.
And the universe is not eternal, it is subject to change and time. Even
our sun is cactus...its dying too. And after all the self-made work too!!!
No, the sun isn't a cactus, and it isn't dying yet.
But your cactus may be already braindead.
McShitforbrains McLean is braindead.
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It was put there for a purpose, for a time.
Idiot.
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There can be no other explanation. - Which is the logical flaw in
that reasoning, since you haven't looked for another explanation.
There isn't another.
Liar.
Post by Peter Pan
So you haven't looked.
The proven serial liar has had it explained over and over and over and
over and over and over and over.... again.
But he's a demented fundementedist so he takes no notice and repeats
the same old, unsolicited, contentious bullshit.
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Michael Christ
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Life is complicated so god dun it. DNA the miracle of life?
Have you heard of something called "Polymerase chain reactions?"
Polymerase can't create itself.
Where did anybody said it did, proven serial liar who, once again,
invents things that were neither aid nor meant?
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Michael Christ
Get your own dirt for your theory.
A perfect example of religion as a mental illness, making him stupidly
and transparently dishonest as well as a psychopath who religiously
harasses people who wouldn't otherwise give a shit about him or his
religion.
Post by Peter Pan
LOL. Get your own newsgroup.
Post by Michael Christ
I read down but I have explained ad nauseam about your hope for no God -
you are wasting your time - and you are simply wasting my time...again.
WHAT FUCKING "HOPE FOR NO GOD" WAS THE PATHOLOGICAL LIAR LYING ABOUT?
You too.

You hope for no God so you won't be accountable for the filthy
self-righteous selfishness in you.

You think you are going to get away with it.

Now, continue in denying what you say is nothing to deny. Get busy, girl!

Liar.





Michael Christ
Post by Christopher A. Lee
Post by Peter Pan
"I'm too dumb to learn, my ignorance comforts me, I hate
science, and i'm always right, whether i'm right or
wrong."
I've told 'em before, MX, you just don't do rational
discussion. Now get with the name-calling.
He's a religious fundie out of his depth.
Yap Honghor
2019-01-16 07:38:58 UTC
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Post by Michael Christ
Post by Christopher A. Lee
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Michael Christ
Post by default
You think that (oh god) the overwhelming (to you) complexity of humans
(all animals) must make an intelligent creator a necessity.
Ahhhh, yep.
They didn't make themselves, Buddy.
Why does the raving loonie keep saying this? Because he knows that the
only people who do, are lying theists putting words into people's
mouths that were neither said nor meant?
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Michael Christ
Nothing can, no matter what the means.
And the universe is not eternal, it is subject to change and time. Even
our sun is cactus...its dying too. And after all the self-made work too!!!
No, the sun isn't a cactus, and it isn't dying yet.
But your cactus may be already braindead.
McShitforbrains McLean is braindead.
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Michael Christ
It was put there for a purpose, for a time.
Idiot.
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Michael Christ
Post by default
There can be no other explanation. - Which is the logical flaw in
that reasoning, since you haven't looked for another explanation.
There isn't another.
Liar.
Post by Peter Pan
So you haven't looked.
The proven serial liar has had it explained over and over and over and
over and over and over and over.... again.
But he's a demented fundementedist so he takes no notice and repeats
the same old, unsolicited, contentious bullshit.
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Michael Christ
Post by default
Life is complicated so god dun it. DNA the miracle of life?
Have you heard of something called "Polymerase chain reactions?"
Polymerase can't create itself.
Where did anybody said it did, proven serial liar who, once again,
invents things that were neither aid nor meant?
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Michael Christ
Get your own dirt for your theory.
A perfect example of religion as a mental illness, making him stupidly
and transparently dishonest as well as a psychopath who religiously
harasses people who wouldn't otherwise give a shit about him or his
religion.
Post by Peter Pan
LOL. Get your own newsgroup.
Post by Michael Christ
I read down but I have explained ad nauseam about your hope for no God -
you are wasting your time - and you are simply wasting my time...again.
WHAT FUCKING "HOPE FOR NO GOD" WAS THE PATHOLOGICAL LIAR LYING ABOUT?
You too.
No body here hope for no god which is impossible to be in existent, troll!
Post by Michael Christ
You hope for no God so you won't be accountable for the filthy
self-righteous selfishness in you.
THERE IS NO FUCKING GOD FOR ANY LIVING THING TO FEEL ACCOUNTABLE!!!!
Nature is what has given us our environment.
Post by Michael Christ
You think you are going to get away with it.
So, you kneel and pray to a pixie every day, plus you tithe!!!!!!!
Post by Michael Christ
Now, continue in denying what you say is nothing to deny. Get busy, girl!
We simply reject your stupidity!!!!!!!!!!
Post by Michael Christ
Liar.
This fits you as well!
Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ
Post by Christopher A. Lee
Post by Peter Pan
"I'm too dumb to learn, my ignorance comforts me, I hate
science, and i'm always right, whether i'm right or
wrong."
I've told 'em before, MX, you just don't do rational
discussion. Now get with the name-calling.
He's a religious fundie out of his depth.
Michael Christ
2019-01-16 02:01:59 UTC
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Post by Peter Pan
Post by Michael Christ
Post by default
You think that (oh god) the overwhelming (to you) complexity of humans
(all animals) must make an intelligent creator a necessity.
Ahhhh, yep.
They didn't make themselves, Buddy.
Nothing can, no matter what the means.
And the universe is not eternal, it is subject to change and time. Even
our sun is cactus...its dying too. And after all the self-made work too!!!
No, the sun isn't a cactus, and it isn't dying yet.
But your cactus may be already braindead.
Post by Michael Christ
It was put there for a purpose, for a time.
Post by default
There can be no other explanation. - Which is the logical flaw in
that reasoning, since you haven't looked for another explanation.
There isn't another.
So you haven't looked.
Post by Michael Christ
Post by default
Life is complicated so god dun it. DNA the miracle of life?
Have you heard of something called "Polymerase chain reactions?"
Polymerase can't create itself.
Get your own dirt for your theory.
LOL. Get your own newsgroup.
Post by Michael Christ
I read down but I have explained ad nauseam about your hope for no God -
you are wasting your time - and you are simply wasting my time...again.
"I'm too dumb to learn, my ignorance comforts me, I hate
science, and i'm always right, whether i'm right or
wrong."
I've told 'em before, MX, you just don't do rational
discussion. Now get with the name-calling.
Asshole. Doh!!! Why are you always right??




Michael Christ

PS 'McLoon translation:'...hypocrite. You can't win, idiot, because you
live a lie.
Peter Pan
2019-01-16 08:40:14 UTC
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Post by Michael Christ
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Michael Christ
Post by default
You think that (oh god) the overwhelming (to you) complexity of humans
(all animals) must make an intelligent creator a necessity.
Ahhhh, yep.
They didn't make themselves, Buddy.
Nothing can, no matter what the means.
And the universe is not eternal, it is subject to change and time. Even
our sun is cactus...its dying too. And after all the self-made work too!!!
No, the sun isn't a cactus, and it isn't dying yet.
But your cactus may be already braindead.
Post by Michael Christ
It was put there for a purpose, for a time.
Post by default
There can be no other explanation. - Which is the logical flaw in
that reasoning, since you haven't looked for another explanation.
There isn't another.
So you haven't looked.
Post by Michael Christ
Post by default
Life is complicated so god dun it. DNA the miracle of life?
Have you heard of something called "Polymerase chain reactions?"
Polymerase can't create itself.
Get your own dirt for your theory.
LOL. Get your own newsgroup.
Post by Michael Christ
I read down but I have explained ad nauseam about your hope for no God -
you are wasting your time - and you are simply wasting my time...again.
"I'm too dumb to learn, my ignorance comforts me, I hate
science, and i'm always right, whether i'm right or
wrong."
I've told 'em before, MX, you just don't do rational
discussion. Now get with the name-calling.
Asshole. Doh!!! Why are you always right??
LOL. Because you always prove me right, like you just
did above.

You are so obedient to me, yet you disregard your god's
instructions, like doing unto others, and shaking dust
off your flipflops...
Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ
PS 'McLoon translation:'...hypocrite. You can't win, idiot, because you
live a lie.
Michael Christ
2019-01-16 20:44:56 UTC
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Post by Peter Pan
Post by Michael Christ
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Michael Christ
Post by default
You think that (oh god) the overwhelming (to you) complexity of humans
(all animals) must make an intelligent creator a necessity.
Ahhhh, yep.
They didn't make themselves, Buddy.
Nothing can, no matter what the means.
And the universe is not eternal, it is subject to change and time. Even
our sun is cactus...its dying too. And after all the self-made work too!!!
No, the sun isn't a cactus, and it isn't dying yet.
But your cactus may be already braindead.
Post by Michael Christ
It was put there for a purpose, for a time.
Post by default
There can be no other explanation. - Which is the logical flaw in
that reasoning, since you haven't looked for another explanation.
There isn't another.
So you haven't looked.
Post by Michael Christ
Post by default
Life is complicated so god dun it. DNA the miracle of life?
Have you heard of something called "Polymerase chain reactions?"
Polymerase can't create itself.
Get your own dirt for your theory.
LOL. Get your own newsgroup.
Post by Michael Christ
I read down but I have explained ad nauseam about your hope for no God -
you are wasting your time - and you are simply wasting my time...again.
"I'm too dumb to learn, my ignorance comforts me, I hate
science, and i'm always right, whether i'm right or
wrong."
I've told 'em before, MX, you just don't do rational
discussion. Now get with the name-calling.
Asshole. Doh!!! Why are you always right??
LOL. Because you always prove me right, like you just
did above.
You are so obedient to me, yet you disregard your god's
instructions, like doing unto others, and shaking dust
off your flipflops...
I saw you failed to address the hypocrisy, Panny.

What you Bozos of idiocy hypocritism and all encompassing regal
splendour of greatness and high up stuff don't know is you don't know
God and what He says.

I will certainly shake the dust off my feet the day you reject me, but
while you continue to fight and struggle and strain and stress and
strive against the truth, you have lessons to learn and there is the
hope that you will wake the fuck up. 'I am your only hope', says the Lord.

Atheist bible teachers! :-). That is like a chimpanzee trying to play
chess with a blindfold sipping on a scotch and coke.




Michael Christ
Kevrob
2019-01-16 20:58:28 UTC
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Post by Michael Christ
Atheist bible teachers! :-). That is like a chimpanzee trying to play
chess with a blindfold sipping on a scotch and coke.
Your idiotic co-religionists indoctrinated us as children too well.
We don't believe the tripe any longer, but we know the chapter and
verse, or we know where to find it.

You seem to have skipped the verses about Christians being humble,
and about the danger of false prohecy.

BTW: I reject you. Now, go away.

---
Kevin R
a.a #2310
Peter Pan
2019-01-16 23:12:35 UTC
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Post by Peter Pan
Post by Michael Christ
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Michael Christ
Post by default
You think that (oh god) the overwhelming (to you) complexity of humans
(all animals) must make an intelligent creator a necessity.
Ahhhh, yep.
They didn't make themselves, Buddy.
Nothing can, no matter what the means.
And the universe is not eternal, it is subject to change and time. Even
our sun is cactus...its dying too. And after all the self-made work too!!!
No, the sun isn't a cactus, and it isn't dying yet.
But your cactus may be already braindead.
Post by Michael Christ
It was put there for a purpose, for a time.
Post by default
There can be no other explanation. - Which is the logical flaw in
that reasoning, since you haven't looked for another explanation.
There isn't another.
So you haven't looked.
Post by Michael Christ
Post by default
Life is complicated so god dun it. DNA the miracle of life?
Have you heard of something called "Polymerase chain reactions?"
Polymerase can't create itself.
Get your own dirt for your theory.
LOL. Get your own newsgroup.
Post by Michael Christ
I read down but I have explained ad nauseam about your hope for no God -
you are wasting your time - and you are simply wasting my time...again.
"I'm too dumb to learn, my ignorance comforts me, I hate
science, and i'm always right, whether i'm right or
wrong."
I've told 'em before, MX, you just don't do rational
discussion. Now get with the name-calling.
Asshole. Doh!!! Why are you always right??
LOL. Because you always prove me right, like you just
did above.
You are so obedient to me, yet you disregard your god's
instructions, like doing unto others, and shaking dust
off your flipflops...
I saw you failed to address the hypocrisy, Panny.
You are false. I've called out your hypocrisy millions
of times.
Post by Michael Christ
What you Bozos of idiocy hypocritism and all encompassing regal
splendour of greatness and high up stuff don't know is you don't know
God and what He says.
God says whatever you created him to say.
Post by Michael Christ
I will certainly shake the dust off my feet the day you reject me, but
while you continue to fight and struggle and strain and stress and
strive against the truth, you have lessons to learn and there is the
hope that you will wake the fuck up. 'I am your only hope', says the Lord.
"I am your only hope", says the Mike Christ.

I reject you.
Post by Michael Christ
Atheist bible teachers! :-). That is like a chimpanzee trying to play
chess with a blindfold sipping on a scotch and coke.
Normal xtians would be embarrassed that they need to have
these things pointed out by atheists. You aren't
troubled by your ignorance.
Michael Christ
2019-01-17 03:26:03 UTC
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Post by Michael Christ
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Michael Christ
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Michael Christ
Post by default
You think that (oh god) the overwhelming (to you) complexity of humans
(all animals) must make an intelligent creator a necessity.
Ahhhh, yep.
They didn't make themselves, Buddy.
Nothing can, no matter what the means.
And the universe is not eternal, it is subject to change and time. Even
our sun is cactus...its dying too. And after all the self-made work too!!!
No, the sun isn't a cactus, and it isn't dying yet.
But your cactus may be already braindead.
Post by Michael Christ
It was put there for a purpose, for a time.
Post by default
There can be no other explanation. - Which is the logical flaw in
that reasoning, since you haven't looked for another explanation.
There isn't another.
So you haven't looked.
Post by Michael Christ
Post by default
Life is complicated so god dun it. DNA the miracle of life?
Have you heard of something called "Polymerase chain reactions?"
Polymerase can't create itself.
Get your own dirt for your theory.
LOL. Get your own newsgroup.
Post by Michael Christ
I read down but I have explained ad nauseam about your hope for no God -
you are wasting your time - and you are simply wasting my time...again.
"I'm too dumb to learn, my ignorance comforts me, I hate
science, and i'm always right, whether i'm right or
wrong."
I've told 'em before, MX, you just don't do rational
discussion. Now get with the name-calling.
Asshole. Doh!!! Why are you always right??
LOL. Because you always prove me right, like you just
did above.
You are so obedient to me, yet you disregard your god's
instructions, like doing unto others, and shaking dust
off your flipflops...
I saw you failed to address the hypocrisy, Panny.
You are false. I've called out your hypocrisy millions
of times.
Post by Michael Christ
What you Bozos of idiocy hypocritism and all encompassing regal
splendour of greatness and high up stuff don't know is you don't know
God and what He says.
God says whatever you created him to say.
Post by Michael Christ
I will certainly shake the dust off my feet the day you reject me, but
while you continue to fight and struggle and strain and stress and
strive against the truth, you have lessons to learn and there is the
hope that you will wake the fuck up. 'I am your only hope', says the Lord.
"I am your only hope", says the Mike Christ.
I reject you.
Oh okay.
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Michael Christ
Atheist bible teachers! :-). That is like a chimpanzee trying to play
chess with a blindfold sipping on a scotch and coke.
Normal xtians would be embarrassed that they need to have
these things pointed out by atheists. You aren't
troubled by your ignorance.
Oh, there you go again, I thought you rejected me??

Clueless! Couldn't even last 10 seconds.

I'm flattered!

'I am your only hope', says the Lord.




Michael Christ
Peter Pan
2019-01-17 21:32:18 UTC
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Post by Peter Pan
Post by Michael Christ
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Michael Christ
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Michael Christ
I read down but I have explained ad nauseam about your hope for no God -
you are wasting your time - and you are simply wasting my time...again.
"I'm too dumb to learn, my ignorance comforts me, I hate
science, and i'm always right, whether i'm right or
wrong."
I've told 'em before, MX, you just don't do rational
discussion. Now get with the name-calling.
Asshole. Doh!!! Why are you always right??
LOL. Because you always prove me right, like you just
did above.
You are so obedient to me, yet you disregard your god's
instructions, like doing unto others, and shaking dust
off your flipflops...
I saw you failed to address the hypocrisy, Panny.
You are false. I've called out your hypocrisy millions
of times.
Post by Michael Christ
What you Bozos of idiocy hypocritism and all encompassing regal
splendour of greatness and high up stuff don't know is you don't know
God and what He says.
God says whatever you created him to say.
Post by Michael Christ
I will certainly shake the dust off my feet the day you reject me, but
while you continue to fight and struggle and strain and stress and
strive against the truth, you have lessons to learn and there is the
hope that you will wake the fuck up. 'I am your only hope', says the Lord.
"I am your only hope", says the Mike Christ.
I reject you.
Oh okay.
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Michael Christ
Atheist bible teachers! :-). That is like a chimpanzee trying to play
chess with a blindfold sipping on a scotch and coke.
Normal xtians would be embarrassed that they need to have
these things pointed out by atheists. You aren't
troubled by your ignorance.
Oh, there you go again, I thought you rejected me??
Clueless! Couldn't even last 10 seconds.
I'm flattered!
'I am your only hope', says the Lord.
Rejecting you doesn't mean i don't want to reply. Your
beliefs are wacko. Maybe you will reclaim your sanity
one day and become an atheist again. If nothing else,
you can still serve as a bad example.

In the meantime, as you say, i'm posting for the benefit
of the millions of lurkers who are entertained by you.
Michael Christ
2019-01-17 22:04:00 UTC
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Post by Peter Pan
Post by Michael Christ
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Michael Christ
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Michael Christ
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Michael Christ
I read down but I have explained ad nauseam about your hope for no God -
you are wasting your time - and you are simply wasting my time...again.
"I'm too dumb to learn, my ignorance comforts me, I hate
science, and i'm always right, whether i'm right or
wrong."
I've told 'em before, MX, you just don't do rational
discussion. Now get with the name-calling.
Asshole. Doh!!! Why are you always right??
LOL. Because you always prove me right, like you just
did above.
You are so obedient to me, yet you disregard your god's
instructions, like doing unto others, and shaking dust
off your flipflops...
I saw you failed to address the hypocrisy, Panny.
You are false. I've called out your hypocrisy millions
of times.
Post by Michael Christ
What you Bozos of idiocy hypocritism and all encompassing regal
splendour of greatness and high up stuff don't know is you don't know
God and what He says.
God says whatever you created him to say.
Post by Michael Christ
I will certainly shake the dust off my feet the day you reject me, but
while you continue to fight and struggle and strain and stress and
strive against the truth, you have lessons to learn and there is the
hope that you will wake the fuck up. 'I am your only hope', says the Lord.
"I am your only hope", says the Mike Christ.
I reject you.
Oh okay.
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Michael Christ
Atheist bible teachers! :-). That is like a chimpanzee trying to play
chess with a blindfold sipping on a scotch and coke.
Normal xtians would be embarrassed that they need to have
these things pointed out by atheists. You aren't
troubled by your ignorance.
Oh, there you go again, I thought you rejected me??
Clueless! Couldn't even last 10 seconds.
I'm flattered!
'I am your only hope', says the Lord.
Rejecting you doesn't mean i don't want to reply.
Ummm, it does, Dorktheus.

Then I can dust my feet.



Your
Post by Peter Pan
beliefs are wacko. Maybe you will reclaim your sanity
one day and become an atheist again. If nothing else,
you can still serve as a bad example.
I'll never be a 'I dun made meself', Buddy.
Post by Peter Pan
In the meantime, as you say, i'm posting for the benefit
of the millions of lurkers who are entertained by you.
Such nobility, such selflessness! :-).

You are entertaining indeed, Pyotr (Aussie style)!




Michael Christ
Peter Pan
2019-01-17 23:51:20 UTC
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Post by Peter Pan
Post by Michael Christ
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Michael Christ
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Michael Christ
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Michael Christ
I read down but I have explained ad nauseam about your hope for no God -
you are wasting your time - and you are simply wasting my time...again.
"I'm too dumb to learn, my ignorance comforts me, I hate
science, and i'm always right, whether i'm right or
wrong."
I've told 'em before, MX, you just don't do rational
discussion. Now get with the name-calling.
Asshole. Doh!!! Why are you always right??
LOL. Because you always prove me right, like you just
did above.
You are so obedient to me, yet you disregard your god's
instructions, like doing unto others, and shaking dust
off your flipflops...
I saw you failed to address the hypocrisy, Panny.
You are false. I've called out your hypocrisy millions
of times.
Post by Michael Christ
What you Bozos of idiocy hypocritism and all encompassing regal
splendour of greatness and high up stuff don't know is you don't know
God and what He says.
God says whatever you created him to say.
Post by Michael Christ
I will certainly shake the dust off my feet the day you reject me, but
while you continue to fight and struggle and strain and stress and
strive against the truth, you have lessons to learn and there is the
hope that you will wake the fuck up. 'I am your only hope', says the Lord.
"I am your only hope", says the Mike Christ.
I reject you.
Oh okay.
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Michael Christ
Atheist bible teachers! :-). That is like a chimpanzee trying to play
chess with a blindfold sipping on a scotch and coke.
Normal xtians would be embarrassed that they need to have
these things pointed out by atheists. You aren't
troubled by your ignorance.
Oh, there you go again, I thought you rejected me??
Clueless! Couldn't even last 10 seconds.
I'm flattered!
'I am your only hope', says the Lord.
Rejecting you doesn't mean i don't want to reply.
Ummm, it does, Dorktheus.
You know what i mean better than i do, because you
created yourself a god.
Post by Michael Christ
Then I can dust my feet.
If you were a follower of Jesus, you would have done that
years ago. But you aren't. You want to be the god, not
the follower. You aren't nearly omniscient enough, so I
reject you.
Post by Michael Christ
Your
Post by Peter Pan
beliefs are wacko. Maybe you will reclaim your sanity
one day and become an atheist again. If nothing else,
you can still serve as a bad example.
I'll never be a 'I dun made meself', Buddy.
Did you make yourself an eternal or temporal being?

You should have made yourself a little brighter. Your
autobiogenesis skills leave something to be desired.
Post by Michael Christ
Post by Peter Pan
In the meantime, as you say, i'm posting for the benefit
of the millions of lurkers who are entertained by you.
Such nobility, such selflessness! :-).
You are entertaining indeed, Pyotr (Aussie style)!
Michael Christ
2019-01-18 01:47:33 UTC
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Post by Michael Christ
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Michael Christ
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Michael Christ
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Michael Christ
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Michael Christ
I read down but I have explained ad nauseam about your hope for no God -
you are wasting your time - and you are simply wasting my time...again.
"I'm too dumb to learn, my ignorance comforts me, I hate
science, and i'm always right, whether i'm right or
wrong."
I've told 'em before, MX, you just don't do rational
discussion. Now get with the name-calling.
Asshole. Doh!!! Why are you always right??
LOL. Because you always prove me right, like you just
did above.
You are so obedient to me, yet you disregard your god's
instructions, like doing unto others, and shaking dust
off your flipflops...
I saw you failed to address the hypocrisy, Panny.
You are false. I've called out your hypocrisy millions
of times.
Post by Michael Christ
What you Bozos of idiocy hypocritism and all encompassing regal
splendour of greatness and high up stuff don't know is you don't know
God and what He says.
God says whatever you created him to say.
Post by Michael Christ
I will certainly shake the dust off my feet the day you reject me, but
while you continue to fight and struggle and strain and stress and
strive against the truth, you have lessons to learn and there is the
hope that you will wake the fuck up. 'I am your only hope', says the Lord.
"I am your only hope", says the Mike Christ.
I reject you.
Oh okay.
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Michael Christ
Atheist bible teachers! :-). That is like a chimpanzee trying to play
chess with a blindfold sipping on a scotch and coke.
Normal xtians would be embarrassed that they need to have
these things pointed out by atheists. You aren't
troubled by your ignorance.
Oh, there you go again, I thought you rejected me??
Clueless! Couldn't even last 10 seconds.
I'm flattered!
'I am your only hope', says the Lord.
Rejecting you doesn't mean i don't want to reply.
Ummm, it does, Dorktheus.
You know what i mean better than i do, because you
created yourself a god.
Yes I do know you better than you know yourself.
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Michael Christ
Then I can dust my feet.
If you were a follower of Jesus, you would have done that
years ago. But you aren't. You want to be the god, not
the follower. You aren't nearly omniscient enough, so I
reject you.
Go away for good, then I'll dust off my feet with you.

Hokay?
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Michael Christ
Your
Post by Peter Pan
beliefs are wacko. Maybe you will reclaim your sanity
one day and become an atheist again. If nothing else,
you can still serve as a bad example.
I'll never be a 'I dun made meself', Buddy.
Did you make yourself an eternal or temporal being?
God is eternal and He made me.

Nothing can make itself.

Simple, isn't it.
Post by Peter Pan
You should have made yourself a little brighter. Your
autobiogenesis skills leave something to be desired.
Nothing can create itself. That includes any living organism.

Get it through, Pyotr, it ain't gonna change.



Michael Christ
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Michael Christ
Post by Peter Pan
In the meantime, as you say, i'm posting for the benefit
of the millions of lurkers who are entertained by you.
Such nobility, such selflessness! :-).
You are entertaining indeed, Pyotr (Aussie style)!
Peter Pan
2019-01-18 10:51:50 UTC
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Post by Peter Pan
Post by Michael Christ
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Michael Christ
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Michael Christ
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Michael Christ
Post by Peter Pan
Post by Michael Christ
I read down but I have explained ad nauseam about your hope for no God -
you are wasting your time - and you are simply wasting my time...again.
"I'm too dumb to learn, my ignorance comforts me, I hate
science, and i'm always right, whether i'm right or
wrong."
I've told 'em before, MX, you just don't do rational
discussion. Now get with the name-calling.
Asshole. Doh!!! Why are you always right??
LOL. Because you always prove me right, like you just
did above.
You are so obedient to me, yet you disregard your god's
instructions, like doing unto others, and shaking dust
off your flipflops...
I saw you failed to address the hypocrisy, Panny.
You are false. I've called out your hypocrisy millions
of times.
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What you Bozos of idiocy hypocritism and all encompassing regal
splendour of greatness and high up stuff don't know is you don't know
God and what He says.
God says whatever you created him to say.
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I will certainly shake the dust off my feet the day you reject me, but
while you continue to fight and struggle and strain and stress and
strive against the truth, you have lessons to learn and there is the
hope that you will wake the fuck up. 'I am your only hope', says the Lord.
"I am your only hope", says the Mike Christ.
I reject you.
Oh okay.
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Atheist bible teachers! :-). That is like a chimpanzee trying to play
chess with a blindfold sipping on a scotch and coke.
Normal xtians would be embarrassed that they need to have
these things pointed out by atheists. You aren't
troubled by your ignorance.
Oh, there you go again, I thought you rejected me??
Clueless! Couldn't even last 10 seconds.
I'm flattered!
'I am your only hope', says the Lord.
Rejecting you doesn't mean i don't want to reply.
Ummm, it does, Dorktheus.
You know what i mean better than i do, because you
created yourself a god.
Yes I do know you better than you know yourself.
You claim to be a self-created christ, too.

You claim a lot of things. You're just awesome, McLoon.
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Then I can dust my feet.
If you were a follower of Jesus, you would have done that
years ago. But you aren't. You want to be the god, not
the follower. You aren't nearly omniscient enough, so I
reject you.
Go away for good, then I'll dust off my feet with you.
Hokay?
I should leave an atheist ng because a self-created god
ordered me out?

Get your own dirt.
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beliefs are wacko. Maybe you will reclaim your sanity
one day and become an atheist again. If nothing else,
you can still serve as a bad example.
I'll never be a 'I dun made meself', Buddy.
Did you make yourself an eternal or temporal being?
God is eternal and He made me.
Nothing can make itself.
Simple, isn't it.
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You should have made yourself a little brighter. Your
autobiogenesis skills leave something to be desired.
Nothing can create itself. That includes any living organism.
But it doesn't include christs, does it, MX?

Was that really the best self-creation work you can do?
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I read down but I have explained ad nauseam about your hope for no God -
you are wasting your time - and you are simply wasting my time...again.
"I'm too dumb to learn, my ignorance comforts me, I hate
science, and i'm always right, whether i'm right or
wrong."
I've told 'em before, MX, you just don't do rational
discussion. Now get with the name-calling.
Asshole. Doh!!! Why are you always right??
LOL. Because you always prove me right, like you just
did above.
You are so obedient to me, yet you disregard your god's
instructions, like doing unto others, and shaking dust
off your flipflops...
I saw you failed to address the hypocrisy, Panny.
You are false. I've called out your hypocrisy millions
of times.
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What you Bozos of idiocy hypocritism and all encompassing regal
splendour of greatness and high up stuff don't know is you don't know
God and what He says.
God says whatever you created him to say.
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I will certainly shake the dust off my feet the day you reject me, but
while you continue to fight and struggle and strain and stress and
strive against the truth, you have lessons to learn and there is the
hope that you will wake the fuck up. 'I am your only hope', says the Lord.
"I am your only hope", says the Mike Christ.
I reject you.
Oh okay.
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Atheist bible teachers! :-). That is like a chimpanzee trying to play
chess with a blindfold sipping on a scotch and coke.
Normal xtians would be embarrassed that they need to have
these things pointed out by atheists. You aren't
troubled by your ignorance.
Oh, there you go again, I thought you rejected me??
Clueless! Couldn't even last 10 seconds.
I'm flattered!
'I am your only hope', says the Lord.
Rejecting you doesn't mean i don't want to reply.
Ummm, it does, Dorktheus.
You know what i mean better than i do, because you
created yourself a god.
Yes I do know you better than you know yourself.
You claim to be a self-created christ, too.
You have to try to bring down to try and elevate yourself.
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You claim a lot of things. You're just awesome, McLoon.
You have to try and bring down to try and elevate yourself.

Have you lifted yourself off the floor yet, Ego man?? Just askin'.
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Then I can dust my feet.
If you were a follower of Jesus, you would have done that
years ago. But you aren't. You want to be the god, not
the follower. You aren't nearly omniscient enough, so I
reject you.
Go away for good, then I'll dust off my feet with you.
Hokay?
I should leave an atheist ng because a self-created god
ordered me out?
Get your own dirt.
All the dirt belongs to your Creator.

Walk in your talk, reject me or don't reject. Reject me and I'll dust
you off as per your request.

"Yes I do know you better than you know yourself".
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Your
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beliefs are wacko. Maybe you will reclaim your sanity
one day and become an atheist again. If nothing else,
you can still serve as a bad example.
I'll never be a 'I dun made meself', Buddy.
Did you make yourself an eternal or temporal being?
God is eternal and He made me.
Nothing can make itself.
Simple, isn't it.
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You should have made yourself a little brighter. Your
autobiogenesis skills leave something to be desired.
Nothing can create itself. That includes any living organism.
But it doesn't include christs, does it, MX?
Was that really the best self-creation work you can do?
Running through the shadows with noise, lost in Neverland.

"Yes I do know you better than you know yourself".




Michael Christ
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I read down but I have explained ad nauseam about your hope for no God -
you are wasting your time - and you are simply wasting my time...again.
"I'm too dumb to learn, my ignorance comforts me, I hate
science, and i'm always right, whether i'm right or
wrong."
I've told 'em before, MX, you just don't do rational
discussion. Now get with the name-calling.
Asshole. Doh!!! Why are you always right??
LOL. Because you always prove me right, like you just
did above.
You are so obedient to me, yet you disregard your god's
instructions, like doing unto others, and shaking dust
off your flipflops...
I saw you failed to address the hypocrisy, Panny.
You are false. I've called out your hypocrisy millions
of times.
Post by Michael Christ
What you Bozos of idiocy hypocritism and all encompassing regal
splendour of greatness and high up stuff don't know is you don't know
God and what He says.
God says whatever you created him to say.
Post by Michael Christ
I will certainly shake the dust off my feet the day you reject me, but
while you continue to fight and struggle and strain and stress and
strive against the truth, you have lessons to learn and there is the
hope that you will wake the fuck up. 'I am your only hope', says the Lord.
"I am your only hope", says the Mike Christ.
I reject you.
Oh okay.
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Atheist bible teachers! :-). That is like a chimpanzee trying to play
chess with a blindfold sipping on a scotch and coke.
Normal xtians would be embarrassed that they need to have
these things pointed out by atheists. You aren't
troubled by your ignorance.
Oh, there you go again, I thought you rejected me??
Clueless! Couldn't even last 10 seconds.
I'm flattered!
'I am your only hope', says the Lord.
Rejecting you doesn't mean i don't want to reply.
Ummm, it does, Dorktheus.
You know what i mean better than i do, because you
created yourself a god.
Yes I do know you better than you know yourself.
You claim to be a self-created christ, too.
You have to try to bring down to try and elevate yourself.
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You claim a lot of things. You're just awesome, McLoon.
You have to try and bring down to try and elevate yourself.
Have you lifted yourself off the floor yet, Ego man?? Just askin'.
That's your Inner Reptilianoid consciousness reminding
you that you are devoid of debating skills, so your
repertoire is limited to name-calling.

Captain Projection strikes again.
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Then I can dust my feet.
If you were a follower of Jesus, you would have done that
years ago. But you aren't. You want to be the god, not
the follower. You aren't nearly omniscient enough, so I
reject you.
Go away for good, then I'll dust off my feet with you.
Hokay?
I should leave an atheist ng because a self-created god
ordered me out?
Get your own dirt.
All the dirt belongs to your Creator.
So your god was a founding member of an atheist
newsgroup?!? Or are you just being stupid again.

Here's an idea: go join your fellow christ-delusional
nutcase in alt.fan.art-bell.
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Walk in your talk, reject me or don't reject. Reject me and I'll dust
you off as per your request.
Request rejected, just like you are.
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"Yes I do know you better than you know yourself".
Delusion confirmed.
Yap Honghor
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Yes, it does.
Nothing can create itself.
So immediately, god must have done it? There's no logic in that.
Have you another option, instead of running your mouth off??
Everything around you was created.
We can't be here without an eternal Creator.
Why? Man creates things and he evolved from chemicals and is not
eternal.
So, eternal Creator or we wouldn't be here to 'discover' things...not
create, by the way.
We have never invented anything, we only discover.
And you're sitting in front of a solid state TFT screen with an LED or
fluorescent back light, typing on a keyboard that uses optical or
magnetic switches to interface with a processor with a few millions or
billions of transistors, running a program you will never understand
due to it's complexity and telling me we don't invent?
We invented your god.
We never invented anything, we only discover. Interestingly, like we
didn't invent ourselves also, we discover...well some do.
1 to make, design, or think of a new type of thing Alexander Graham
Bell invented the telephone in 1876. ?
If you can't, by reason of your human pride, get past such a basic
spiritual reality, what hope is there??
Nothing man has ever thought was not put there by God who invented
everything.
There is nothing new under the sun.
God is eternal, the universe is *subject* to time and change and is not.
Get over it, God created you, you didn't create yourself.
Nothing can create itself, neither can you 'invent' anything...you
merely are given to discover what God created.
We discovered oil and carbon based engines because He allowed it. God
holds the reigns.
You think that (oh god) the overwhelming (to you) complexity of humans
(all animals) must make an intelligent creator a necessity.
Ahhhh, yep.
They didn't make themselves, Buddy.
Nothing can, no matter what the means.
And the universe is not eternal, it is subject to change and time. Even
our sun is cactus...its dying too. And after all the self-made work too!!!
It was put there for a purpose, for a time.
Moronic troll, it is nature that has the sun there...no purpose!
However, earth just happens to circle around and the sun energy happens to be a requirement for life.

There is no fucking pixie to plan, you sick theist!!!!!!!!!!
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There can be no other explanation. - Which is the logical flaw in
that reasoning, since you haven't looked for another explanation.
There isn't another.
And you are not even looking at the majesty, beauty and wonderful design
of our creation.
You are describing nature...however, if your creator was the one doing all those things, it is an evil stupid fucking pixie allowing bad things to happen to people, to earth!!!!!!!!!!!
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Yeah Baby, a baby came from a slug 50 billion years ago or whatever
concoction you want to come up with!
The nature is so many billions ahead of you slug.
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Life is complicated so god dun it. DNA the miracle of life?
Have you heard of something called "Polymerase chain reactions?"
Polymerase can't create itself.
It is a human process, input with conditions.
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Get your own dirt for your theory.
I read down but I have explained ad nauseam about your hope for no God -
you are wasting your time - and you are simply wasting my time...again.
You are wasting your life time for something ain;t there, troll!!!!!!!!!!
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Yes, it does.
Nothing can create itself.
So immediately, god must have done it? There's no logic in that.
Have you another option, instead of running your mouth off??
Everything around you was created.
We can't be here without an eternal Creator.
Why? Man creates things and he evolved from chemicals and is not
eternal.
So, eternal Creator or we wouldn't be here to 'discover' things...not
create, by the way.
We have never invented anything, we only discover.
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Plus there that thing about 'design', not some atheist freakzoid chance
applying to billions of forms of life and a gzillion under the microscope.
Just poofed, did it?
I just don't know what happened billions of years ago - that is what
answer is.
A long, long, long, long time does not mean anything.
Nothing can create itself, I don't care if it is a gazillion years.
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I don't have to know to live and enjoy my life. I'm never going to
know all there is to know; no one will ever know all there is to
know. I'm perfectly OK with that, it just means that no matter how
long I live I can keep finding interesting things to learn about.
There are things we can know and there are things we can't know in this
life, God is of the former.
This I know though, everything of this life will be known in the life to
come. You'll have to take that on trust. Everything, and I mean
everything, even what happened to those planes in the Bermuda Triangle,
what happened to Amelia Earhart, where you lost your 'Cat in the Hat'
book, the works!
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I've also learned that people telling you that they have your best
interests at heart, almost never do. If you trust people without
reservation you aren't being saintly or good, you are just being
gullible.
There is only One you can trust and those that are His...same thing.
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You are a mad man.
Nothing can create itself.
How can you know that without being there at the moment of creation?
You can't be before you are to make yourself, Default.
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The bible tells you so?
Never read it in the bible.
God tells me. He is reality.
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So the writer of Genesis was there and taking
notes, and god just failed to mention it?
You have to look beyond the story. Like looking beyond what your wife
says to what she is.
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Then you'd go one further and claim that this proves the bible is a
true factual account or that your "god" must be just like the bible
describes him, character flaws and all?
You look at the cover by don't know or understand the contents. You'd
deny your own mother if it suited you. You can't escape the truth, Default.
So the bible is an obscure book that nobody reads and nobody bothers
with, is it? Or are there a couple of dozen that see the truth in it,
study it and revere it?
And why is the bible so 'no-good', because it is a Default judged
useless piece of shit?? Or is there another reason why billions
disagree with you??
Still, its what you say that matters.
So your justification is everyone does it so it must be right?
If 75% of the town is at the football match, is it a sin to say it is
popular??
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How do
you feel about the Talmud, Book of Mormon, Urantia Book, Quran, New
World Bible, Dyanetics, etc.?
The same as I feel about cheeseburgers. Some eat cheeseburgers, I'm not
into cheeseburgers.
I have told you some many times now, the Lord is not a religion
including the so-called christian religion you see.
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Don't you ever question how this can be? You were spoon-fed this
malarkey from birth, and it is too hard to abandon childhood
brainwashing; or did you let some nincompoop rope you into it?
None of my family, friends, associates were religious right through my
early life up to about 24 years, then I met some people who seemed to
have meaning to their lives while I was partying and playing the field,
so I investigated with an open heart and thought it is worth a go, and
the rest is history.
Or in other words you allowed yourself to be roped in because you have
some vague feeling that without being given a purpose you can't find a
purpose in life.
Its seems that I am buggered if I do, and fucked if I don't. :-).
Without being given a purpose, there is no purpose in life. That is why
atheism will never satisfy anyone.
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So how did you latch on to this idea that there is a god, and that the
bible is the only holy book that gets it right?
God revealed Himself to me because I desired to know Him. And if it was
Islam, I would be a Muslim, if it was the christianity that studies the
bible, it would have been the christianity you know and love. But it
wasn't either.
The record in the bible though is true, God choose to leave a written
testimony of Himself somewhere, it just happened to be in the bible. It
could have been in Harry Potter books if He wished. And if it was you
would be carrying on about Harry Potter books now too.
You should not judge a book you don't know by your opinion.
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Not for all the money in the world, Buddy!
You were spoon-fed the counterfeit, I found the real coin.
You found the real con, buddy.
Why is it suddenly 'proof' if you say that?? :-).
You can say that over and over but it won't do you any good.
Nothing can create itself.
Then that applies just as well to your god.

We needed an eternal God or we would not be
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here.
Bullshit. You just don't like the science.

PDW
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Yes, it does.
Nothing can create itself.
So immediately, god must have done it? There's no logic in that.
Have you another option, instead of running your mouth off??
Everything around you was created.
We can't be here without an eternal Creator.
Why? Man creates things and he evolved from chemicals and is not
eternal.
So, eternal Creator or we wouldn't be here to 'discover' things...not
create, by the way.
We have never invented anything, we only discover.
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Plus there that thing about 'design', not some atheist freakzoid chance
applying to billions of forms of life and a gzillion under the microscope.
Just poofed, did it?
I just don't know what happened billions of years ago - that is what
answer is.
A long, long, long, long time does not mean anything.
Nothing can create itself, I don't care if it is a gazillion years.
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I don't have to know to live and enjoy my life. I'm never going to
know all there is to know; no one will ever know all there is to
know. I'm perfectly OK with that, it just means that no matter how
long I live I can keep finding interesting things to learn about.
There are things we can know and there are things we can't know in this
life, God is of the former.
This I know though, everything of this life will be known in the life to
come. You'll have to take that on trust. Everything, and I mean
everything, even what happened to those planes in the Bermuda Triangle,
what happened to Amelia Earhart, where you lost your 'Cat in the Hat'
book, the works!
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I've also learned that people telling you that they have your best
interests at heart, almost never do. If you trust people without
reservation you aren't being saintly or good, you are just being
gullible.
There is only One you can trust and those that are His...same thing.
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You are a mad man.
Nothing can create itself.
How can you know that without being there at the moment of creation?
You can't be before you are to make yourself, Default.
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The bible tells you so?
Never read it in the bible.
God tells me. He is reality.
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So the writer of Genesis was there and taking
notes, and god just failed to mention it?
You have to look beyond the story. Like looking beyond what your wife
says to what she is.
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Then you'd go one further and claim that this proves the bible is a
true factual account or that your "god" must be just like the bible
describes him, character flaws and all?
You look at the cover by don't know or understand the contents. You'd
deny your own mother if it suited you. You can't escape the truth, Default.
So the bible is an obscure book that nobody reads and nobody bothers
with, is it? Or are there a couple of dozen that see the truth in it,
study it and revere it?
And why is the bible so 'no-good', because it is a Default judged
useless piece of shit?? Or is there another reason why billions
disagree with you??
Still, its what you say that matters.
So your justification is everyone does it so it must be right?
If 75% of the town is at the football match, is it a sin to say it is
popular??
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How do
you feel about the Talmud, Book of Mormon, Urantia Book, Quran, New
World Bible, Dyanetics, etc.?
The same as I feel about cheeseburgers. Some eat cheeseburgers, I'm not
into cheeseburgers.
I have told you some many times now, the Lord is not a religion
including the so-called christian religion you see.
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Don't you ever question how this can be? You were spoon-fed this
malarkey from birth, and it is too hard to abandon childhood
brainwashing; or did you let some nincompoop rope you into it?
None of my family, friends, associates were religious right through my
early life up to about 24 years, then I met some people who seemed to
have meaning to their lives while I was partying and playing the field,
so I investigated with an open heart and thought it is worth a go, and
the rest is history.
Or in other words you allowed yourself to be roped in because you have
some vague feeling that without being given a purpose you can't find a
purpose in life.
Its seems that I am buggered if I do, and fucked if I don't. :-).
Without being given a purpose, there is no purpose in life. That is why
atheism will never satisfy anyone.
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So how did you latch on to this idea that there is a god, and that the
bible is the only holy book that gets it right?
God revealed Himself to me because I desired to know Him. And if it was
Islam, I would be a Muslim, if it was the christianity that studies the
bible, it would have been the christianity you know and love. But it
wasn't either.
The record in the bible though is true, God choose to leave a written
testimony of Himself somewhere, it just happened to be in the bible. It
could have been in Harry Potter books if He wished. And if it was you
would be carrying on about Harry Potter books now too.
You should not judge a book you don't know by your opinion.
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Not for all the money in the world, Buddy!
You were spoon-fed the counterfeit, I found the real coin.
You found the real con, buddy.
Why is it suddenly 'proof' if you say that?? :-).
You can say that over and over but it won't do you any good.
Nothing can create itself.
Then that applies just as well to your god.
God is eternal or we would not be here.

Why is it so difficult for you people?? I'll tell you, it doesn't suit
the 'meself' agenda.
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We needed an eternal God or we would not be
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here.
Bullshit. You just don't like the science.
PDW
You ain't got any science for creating yourself, Buddy, and you never will.




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You should not judge a book you don't know by your opinion.
Why not? You do it every time you post.
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You should not judge a book you don't know by your opinion.
Why not? You do it every time you post.
Indeed! The vast majority of screaming evangelicals never read the
bible but just spout off the sound-bites (bytes?) they heard from some
religious leader.
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You should not judge a book you don't know by your opinion.
Why not? You do it every time you post.
Indeed! The vast majority of screaming evangelicals never read the
bible but just spout off the sound-bites (bytes?) they heard from some
religious leader.
Let's get out of the smoke and mirrors, shall we.

Are you both saying I don't know my God?

Well ask away. I have never refused genuine inquiry...genuine.

Come out into the light, Boys!





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You should not judge a book you don't know by your opinion.
Why not? You do it every time you post.
Indeed! The vast majority of screaming evangelicals never read the
bible but just spout off the sound-bites (bytes?) they heard from some
religious leader.
Let's get out of the smoke and mirrors, shall we.
There's another judgment, MX.
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Are you both saying I don't know my God?
Well ask away. I have never refused genuine inquiry...genuine.
You have never missed an opportunity to ignore an
inconvenient question.
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Come out into the light, Boys!
Ho hum... more book-judging from the McLooney-toon.
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You should not judge a book you don't know by your opinion.
Why not? You do it every time you post.
Indeed! The vast majority of screaming evangelicals never read the
bible but just spout off the sound-bites (bytes?) they heard from some
religious leader.
Let's get out of the smoke and mirrors, shall we.
There's another judgment, MX.
Post by Michael Christ
Are you both saying I don't know my God?
Well ask away. I have never refused genuine inquiry...genuine.
You have never missed an opportunity to ignore an
inconvenient question.
Post by Michael Christ
Come out into the light, Boys!
Ho hum... more book-judging from the McLooney-toon.
More smoke and mirrors.

You should give up smoking and gazing awesomely at your reflection.




Michael Christ




Michael Christ
Peter Pan
2019-01-16 08:46:51 UTC
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You should not judge a book you don't know by your opinion.
Why not? You do it every time you post.
Indeed! The vast majority of screaming evangelicals never read the
bible but just spout off the sound-bites (bytes?) they heard from some
religious leader.
Let's get out of the smoke and mirrors, shall we.
There's another judgment, MX.
Post by Michael Christ
Are you both saying I don't know my God?
Well ask away. I have never refused genuine inquiry...genuine.
You have never missed an opportunity to ignore an
inconvenient question.
Post by Michael Christ
Come out into the light, Boys!
Ho hum... more book-judging from the McLooney-toon.
More smoke and mirrors.
You should give up smoking and gazing awesomely at your reflection.
Is that the best insult you can come up with?

C'mon, Mx, you can be more creative than that.
Michael Christ
2019-01-16 20:47:20 UTC
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Post by Michael Christ
You should not judge a book you don't know by your opinion.
Why not? You do it every time you post.
Indeed! The vast majority of screaming evangelicals never read the
bible but just spout off the sound-bites (bytes?) they heard from some
religious leader.
Let's get out of the smoke and mirrors, shall we.
There's another judgment, MX.
Post by Michael Christ
Are you both saying I don't know my God?
Well ask away. I have never refused genuine inquiry...genuine.
You have never missed an opportunity to ignore an
inconvenient question.
Post by Michael Christ
Come out into the light, Boys!
Ho hum... more book-judging from the McLooney-toon.
More smoke and mirrors.
You should give up smoking and gazing awesomely at your reflection.
Is that the best insult you can come up with?
C'mon, Mx, you can be more creative than that.
Just the reality, Peter Pan, just the reality.

I am waiting for you to come up with something better, Bub.




Michael Christ
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2019-01-16 02:17:42 UTC
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Post by Michael Christ
You should not judge a book you don't know by your opinion.
Why not? You do it every time you post.
Indeed! The vast majority of screaming evangelicals never read the
bible but just spout off the sound-bites (bytes?) they heard from some
religious leader.
Let's get out of the smoke and mirrors, shall we.
Are you both saying I don't know my God?
Well ask away. I have never refused genuine inquiry...genuine.
Come out into the light, Boys!
Produce a god then we can talk. In the meantime though you could
explain why a just merciful god thinks it's a good idea to kill babies
by slinging their little heads against rocks?
Michael Christ
2019-01-16 02:28:10 UTC
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Post by Michael Christ
You should not judge a book you don't know by your opinion.
Why not? You do it every time you post.
Indeed! The vast majority of screaming evangelicals never read the
bible but just spout off the sound-bites (bytes?) they heard from some
religious leader.
Let's get out of the smoke and mirrors, shall we.
Are you both saying I don't know my God?
Well ask away. I have never refused genuine inquiry...genuine.
Come out into the light, Boys!
Produce a god then we can talk.
He is not found according to the demands of a proud arrogant bigoted sinner.
Post by default
In the meantime though you could
explain why a just merciful god thinks it's a good idea to kill babies
by slinging their little heads against rocks?
Ask the men who told God we don't need you, men who are you.




Michael Christ
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2019-01-16 11:08:12 UTC
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Post by Michael Christ
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Post by Michael Christ
You should not judge a book you don't know by your opinion.
Why not? You do it every time you post.
Indeed! The vast majority of screaming evangelicals never read the
bible but just spout off the sound-bites (bytes?) they heard from some
religious leader.
Let's get out of the smoke and mirrors, shall we.
Are you both saying I don't know my God?
Well ask away. I have never refused genuine inquiry...genuine.
Come out into the light, Boys!
Produce a god then we can talk.
He is not found according to the demands of a proud arrogant bigoted sinner.
Doesn't appear to saints either... Appears only to people who are
hallucinating or those with a few bottles short of a six-pack.
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In the meantime though you could
explain why a just merciful god thinks it's a good idea to kill babies
by slinging their little heads against rocks?
Ask the men who told God we don't need you, men who are you.
Makes less sense than usual.
Don Martin
2019-01-16 15:27:03 UTC
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Post by Michael Christ
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Post by Michael Christ
You should not judge a book you don't know by your opinion.
Why not? You do it every time you post.
Indeed! The vast majority of screaming evangelicals never read the
bible but just spout off the sound-bites (bytes?) they heard from some
religious leader.
Let's get out of the smoke and mirrors, shall we.
Are you both saying I don't know my God?
Well ask away. I have never refused genuine inquiry...genuine.
Come out into the light, Boys!
Produce a god then we can talk.
He is not found according to the demands of a proud arrogant bigoted sinner.
Doesn't appear to saints either... Appears only to people who are
hallucinating or those with a few bottles short of a six-pack.
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Post by default
In the meantime though you could
explain why a just merciful god thinks it's a good idea to kill babies
by slinging their little heads against rocks?
Ask the men who told God we don't need you, men who are you.
Makes less sense than usual.
And THAT is saying something!
--
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
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Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
Je pense, donc je suis Charlie.
ravn
2019-01-15 22:03:28 UTC
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YOU DID NOT CREATE (TAKE YOUR PICK) YOURSELF!
It doesn't follow that therefore people were created by god.
Yes, it does.
Nothing can create itself.
It doesn't follow from your premise that nothing can create itself that therefore people were created by god. People are evidently a product of nature. Your god explanation isn't based on anything real.

Also, what does arguably follow from your premise is that since what you call god is alleged to be non-created then whatever makes that god possible is greater than god's self, since god is dependent on that basis in order to exist.

Why aren't you worshiping & appealing to that basis, (since you're so committed to subordinating yourself to the highest alleged power), rather than god?
Michael Christ
2019-01-15 22:31:32 UTC
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YOU DID NOT CREATE (TAKE YOUR PICK) YOURSELF!
It doesn't follow that therefore people were created by god.
Yes, it does.
Nothing can create itself.
It doesn't follow from your premise that nothing can create itself that therefore people were created by god. People are evidently a product of nature. Your god
explanation isn't based on anything real.
Nature didn't create itself.

Whatever way you want to look at it, when it boils down you are saying
you created yourself.

Nothing can create itself.

Eternal God.
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Also, what does arguably follow from your premise is that since what you call god is alleged to be non-created then whatever makes that god possible is greater than god's self, since god is dependent on that basis in order to exist.
God is dependent on no one and nothing.

You are though!

I wonder why that is???
Post by ravn
Why aren't you worshiping & appealing to that basis, (since you're so committed to subordinating yourself to the highest alleged power), rather than god?
You want me to surrender to your basis of thinking?? For one, it is not
powerful enough.

An eternal won't be happening to that, Buddy.




Michael Christ
ravn
2019-01-16 01:08:25 UTC
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Nature didn't create itself.
I didn't claim it did. But matter & energy may be eternal, at least in one direction.
Post by Michael Christ
Whatever way you want to look at it, when it boils down you are saying
you created yourself.
That's a non-sequitur, & a straw man you would prefer to burn rather than deal with what is actually being said here.
Post by Michael Christ
God is dependent on no one and nothing.
God didn't decide to exist given that god is alleged to be eternal. Whatever is the basis of god's existence is what that existence depends on. So, there's something greater than god.
Michael Christ
2019-01-16 02:23:24 UTC
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Nature didn't create itself.
I didn't claim it did. But matter & energy may be eternal, at least in one direction.
No direction.

Matter and energy did not create itself, much less come together to
create us and everything else! :-). You seriously need to wake up, Buddy.
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Post by Michael Christ
Whatever way you want to look at it, when it boils down you are saying
you created yourself.
That's a non-sequitur, & a straw man you would prefer to burn rather than deal with what is actually being said here.
You are failing to address the truth.

If you say matter and energy created you and you are matter and energy,
you made yourself.

Good luck with that!

Nothing can create itself.
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Post by Michael Christ
God is dependent on no one and nothing.
God didn't decide to exist given that god is alleged to be eternal. Whatever is the basis of god's existence is what that existence depends on. So, there's something greater than god.
God didn't need to decide to exist, He is I AM.

Nothing can create something that always was.

And since nothing can create itself, the great I AM is the only One who
could create us or we wouldn't be here.

No excuses, Ravn.




Michael Christ
Kevrob
2019-01-16 04:15:39 UTC
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He is I AM.....
"I yam what I yam...." - Popeye the Sailor.

Most of us here know what YHWH means, monomaniac.

Why do you think I call it "Yahooey?"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetragrammaton

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ravn
2019-01-23 20:02:42 UTC
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Nature didn't create itself.
I didn't claim it did. But matter & energy may be eternal, at least in one direction.
No direction.
You haven't demonstrated that, nor is it self-evident. Something can have no beginning but have an ending. So this could all end, everything.
Post by Michael Christ
Matter and energy did not create itself...
I didn't say it did. So why are you repeating this as if somebody here did other than you? See above.
Post by Michael Christ
You seriously need to wake up, Buddy.
You need to stop making straw man arguments & believing that you're proving something other than establishing that you're an asshole. Only an asshole tries to put words in other people's mouths in plain sight & then try to "mansplain" to them your own confusion as if what you say isn't up for debate.
Cloud Hobbit
2019-01-23 21:03:28 UTC
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Note to MX:

When is God going to rewrite that piece of crap known as the Bible so that nonsense can stop?

Clearly, an omnipotent God could do that. Of course, that brings up the question of why he let it stand in direct contradiction to reality?
Michael Christ
2019-01-23 22:20:59 UTC
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Post by Cloud Hobbit
When is God going to rewrite that piece of crap known as the Bible so that nonsense can stop?
Clearly, an omnipotent God could do that. Of course, that brings up the question of why he let it stand in direct contradiction to reality?
Note to Cloudy Hobbit: Massive ignorance does not make your thoughts
right, Hobby.




Michael Christ
Yap Honghor
2019-01-24 02:42:34 UTC
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When is God going to rewrite that piece of crap known as the Bible so that nonsense can stop?
Clearly, an omnipotent God could do that. Of course, that brings up the question of why he let it stand in direct contradiction to reality?
Note to Cloudy Hobbit: Massive ignorance does not make your thoughts
right, Hobby.
But you think your delusion makes you right?????????
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