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Ivan The Terrible
2020-04-29 05:48:27 UTC
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_atheism
Cloud Hobbit
2020-04-29 07:02:50 UTC
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Post by Ivan The Terrible
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_atheism
The only valid criticism of atheism would be if there were atheists even after a god was proven to exist.

Until that happens, AFAIC atheism IS the default position.
Charles Packer
2020-04-29 07:58:03 UTC
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Post by Ivan The Terrible
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_atheism
The only valid criticism of atheism would be if there were atheists even
after a god was proven to exist.
Until that happens, AFAIC atheism IS the default position.
Really? What about agnosticism?

http://cpacker.org
Cloud Hobbit
2020-04-29 09:28:35 UTC
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Really? What about agnosticism?
What about it?

An agnostic is just a Chickenshit atheist.

Agnostics don't believe its possible to know if God exists.

If I tell you I have a purple dragon in my garage, is your default that you can't know if I do or not?

None if the evidence given by believers has been found to be true in the attempts to prove God.

If nothing proves God, then why bother thinking about it?

I'm all for discoBering all we can about reality, I don't see how a completely unevidenced deity fits in.
Ivan The Terrible
2020-04-29 09:34:30 UTC
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Really? What about agnosticism?
What about it?
An agnostic is just a Chickenshit atheist.
WRONG.


ag·nos·tic
/aɡˈnästik/

noun
a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena; a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God.
Peter Pan
2020-05-01 22:11:37 UTC
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Really? What about agnosticism?
What about it?
An agnostic is just a Chickenshit atheist.
Agnostics don't believe its possible to know if God exists.
WRONG.
ag·nos·tic
/a??nästik/
noun
a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena; a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God.
That's what CH just said above. Didn't you see it?

If you're going claim he's WRONG, then plagiarize a
definition that proves he's right, you should probably
snip what he said, or something. Then maybe nobody will
notice how dumb you are. :-)
Christopher A. Lee
2020-05-01 22:34:24 UTC
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Really? What about agnosticism?
What about it?
An agnostic is just a Chickenshit atheist.
Agnostics don't believe its possible to know if God exists.
WRONG.
ag·nos·tic
/a??nästik/
noun
a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena; a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God.
That's what CH just said above. Didn't you see it?
"HE CAN"T READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Post by Peter Pan
If you're going claim he's WRONG, then plagiarize a
definition that proves he's right, you should probably
snip what he said, or something. Then maybe nobody will
notice how dumb you are. :-)
They will - because it's a dead giveaway that he didn't want people to
see it.
Kurt Nicklas
2020-04-29 11:40:44 UTC
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Really? What about agnosticism?
What about it?
An agnostic is just a Chickenshit atheist.
Agnostics don't believe its possible to know if God exists.
If I tell you I have a purple dragon in my garage, is your default that you can't know if I do or not?
None if the evidence given by believers has been found to be true in the attempts to prove God.
Which believers have you consulted?

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"Atheists don't see God because there is nothing to see.
God doesn't and cannot exist."
--"Cloud Hobbit" 8/11/19
Dexter
2020-04-29 19:04:44 UTC
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On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 12:28:39 PM
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Post by Charles Packer
Really? What about agnosticism?
What about it?
An agnostic is just a Chickenshit atheist.
Agnostics don't believe its possible to know
if God exists.
If I tell you I have a purple dragon in my
garage, is your default that you can't know
if I do or not?
None if the evidence given by believers has
been found to be true in the attempts to
prove God.
Which believers have you consulted?
----------------------------------------------

So, which believer did he miss? You?

Do you have independently verifiable evidence of
god?

Why don't yous share it with us? Go on, tell us
about it.

This should be good for a laugh.
Kurt Nicklas
2020-04-30 07:46:24 UTC
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Post by Dexter
On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 12:28:39 PM
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Post by Charles Packer
Really? What about agnosticism?
What about it?
An agnostic is just a Chickenshit atheist.
Agnostics don't believe its possible to know
if God exists.
If I tell you I have a purple dragon in my
garage, is your default that you can't know
if I do or not?
None if the evidence given by believers has
been found to be true in the attempts to
prove God.
Which believers have you consulted?
----------------------------------------------
So, which believer did he miss? You?
How will we know unless he says who he HAS consulted?

Think before you answer.
Post by Dexter
Do you have independently verifiable evidence of
god?
What in your world would constitute verifiable evidence for the existence of God?
Post by Dexter
Why don't yous share it with us? Go on, tell us
about it.
See my question above and be sure to answer in an appropriate, olympically
disdainful manner, okay?
Post by Dexter
This should be good for a laugh.
Answer my question and we'll all have a good laugh, little boy.
Tim
2020-04-30 12:15:13 UTC
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Post by Dexter
On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 12:28:39 PM
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Post by Charles Packer
Really? What about agnosticism?
What about it?
An agnostic is just a Chickenshit atheist.
Agnostics don't believe its possible to know
if God exists.
If I tell you I have a purple dragon in my
garage, is your default that you can't know
if I do or not?
None if the evidence given by believers has
been found to be true in the attempts to
prove God.
Which believers have you consulted?
----------------------------------------------
So, which believer did he miss? You?
How will we know unless he says who he HAS consulted?
Think before you answer.
Post by Dexter
Do you have independently verifiable evidence of
god?
What in your world would constitute verifiable evidence for the existence of God?
You tell us, kuntsy. You believe in a god, so tell us what evidence you used to form your belief. Note: "mommy said he's real" is an excuse, not evidence.

<crickets>

"I guess proper punctuation isn't of much use in Toronto. Nothing there but tears and queers." May 15, 2019 - Kuntsy applies hate speech to an entire city over a punctuation error.

"Tim the Dim is canadian, Lo Mein." July 8, 2019 - Kuntsy demonstrates his marginal literacy and bigotry toward Chinese people.

"I didn't ask what it is, Lo Mein. Where is your pixie?" July 9, 2019 - Again kuntsy demonstrates his racist attitudes toward Chinese people.

"I can say the same thing about God, Lo Mein." July 10, 2019 - Kuntsy shows how grown up he is by believing in a sky daddy and using racist remarks.

"Playing dumb comes easy for you, Lo Mein." July 10, 2019 - More of kuntsy's racism.

"Really, Lo Mein? You still haven't told me where this pixie you call 'Nature' is located." July 10, 2019 - Kuntsy's moral high ground on display again.

"If you don't like to hear that, either apologize or stop reading my posts. That's simple, even for a canadian." July 15, 2019 - Kuntles shows off his grammar skills and hatred of the North.

"Forget Any Rand. She had no grasp of the real world." July 11, 2019 - Kuntsy demonstrates his grasp on spelling names.

"! The end of yet another leftwing dream" July 18, 2019 - Kuntsy thinks that subject titles should start with an exclamation mark and don't need periods!

"I looked high and low for you the same warning when the epithet belowed appeared on a.a." - Kuntsy perfects the bastardization of the English language, LOL!

"Hadn't you heard? Timmykins blames his empty head on the nature of the Universe so, of course, it's not his fault. After all, he didn't actually ask to born!" - Kuntsy emptied his head and poured religion in, LOL!

"No one who knows the history of the 20th century can have such a polyanna view of human 'empathy'." Oct, 28, 2019 - Kuntsy consults his "Any Rand" name dictionary, LOL!

"I don't know who you're talking abo" Nov 10, 2019 - Kuntsy proves, once again, that he doesn't know what he's talking about, LOL!

"I slogged all the way through the Quran. I've been in 4 or 5 mosques. Pass one almost ever day but I'm not convinced to convert, no." Nov 10, 2019. For kuntles The days last for "ever" in Plovdiv, LOL!

"Timmee just can't untangle those fingers sometimes!" Nov 21, 2019 - Kuntsy just can't figure out how to use commas, LOL!

"You can find an atheist who will tell you what you want to hear and you'll buy his books. Richard Dawson et al thank you for your support." - Kuntsy's favorite game show atheist, LOL!
michellemalkingmail.com
2020-04-30 12:24:11 UTC
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Really? What about agnosticism?
What about it?
An agnostic is just a Chickenshit atheist.
Agnostics don't believe its possible to know if God exists.
If I tell you I have a purple dragon in my garage, is your default that you can't know if I do or not?
None if the evidence given by believers has been found to be true in the attempts to prove God.
Which believers have you consulted?
Which atheists have you consulted. We don't have leaders and are all individuals. And we also know that you don't listen to what we say,
since your 'mind' is constrained by your version of your religion.
Tim
2020-04-30 12:28:50 UTC
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Really? What about agnosticism?
What about it?
An agnostic is just a Chickenshit atheist.
Agnostics don't believe its possible to know if God exists.
If I tell you I have a purple dragon in my garage, is your default that you can't know if I do or not?
None if the evidence given by believers has been found to be true in the attempts to prove God.
Which believers have you consulted?
Which atheists have you consulted.
He asked "Richard Dawson", LOL!

"You can find an atheist who will tell you what you want to hear and you'll buy his books. Richard Dawson et al thank you for your support." - Kuntsy's favorite game show atheist, LOL!

Then he got a second opinion from "Any Rand".

"Forget Any Rand. She had no grasp of the real world." July 11, 2019 - Kuntsy demonstrates his grasp on spelling names.
michellemalkingmail.com
2020-05-01 23:31:45 UTC
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Really? What about agnosticism?
What about it?
An agnostic is just a Chickenshit atheist.
Agnostics don't believe its possible to know if God exists.
If I tell you I have a purple dragon in my garage, is your default that you can't know if I do or not?
None of the evidence given by believers has been found to be true in the attempts to prove God.
Which believers have you consulted?
Which atheists have you consulted.
He asked "Richard Dawson", LOL!
"You can find an atheist who will tell you what you want to hear and you'll buy his books. Richard Dawson et al thank you for your support." - Kuntsy's favorite game show atheist, LOL!
Then he got a second opinion from "Any Rand".
"Forget Any Rand. She had no grasp of the real world." July 11, 2019 - Kuntsy demonstrates his grasp on spelling names.
Ayn Rand's ghost would like that.

I wonder if he spoke to Christopher Hitchen's ghost, too. He'd have
gotten a nice dose of ectoplasm.
Kurt Nicklas
2020-04-30 13:22:04 UTC
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Really? What about agnosticism?
What about it?
An agnostic is just a Chickenshit atheist.
Agnostics don't believe its possible to know if God exists.
If I tell you I have a purple dragon in my garage, is your default that you can't know if I do or not?
None if the evidence given by believers has been found to be true in the attempts to prove God.
Which believers have you consulted?
Which atheists have you consulted.
I've listened to a number of atheists here, yourself included, and I continue to hear this very irrational claim that 'no evidence for God exists'.

So I, very naturally, ask where have you looked?
Post by michellemalkingmail.com
We don't have leaders and are all individuals. And we also know that you don't listen to what we say,
On the contrary, I DO listen. Your problem is that, after I listen, I ask difficult questions that you'd rather not deal with.
Post by michellemalkingmail.com
since your 'mind' is constrained by your version of your religion.
On the contrary, I'm not constrained, as are you and other atheists here, by irrational thinking to buttress your belief systems.

----

"Have a nice day, and feel free to consume as much Zyklon B as you can."
---"Tim"(Beesley) 9/6/19

'Yeah, I'm an atheist! I'd like to gas all theists!!!'
--- "Malte Runz 5/17/19 who thinks it's funny to joke about threatening people he doesn't like.

"And trying jumping from a high rise, it is also an illusion!"
---"Yap Honghor" proving asian atheists also have death fantasies.

"I'm not interested in your faggot fantasies, faggot."
--- "Tim"(Beesley) 2/7/19

"Go suck on a can of Zyklon B, you ignorant fuck."
---"Tim"(Beesley) 8/13/17

" I'm the same Christian "killer" I've been for years and years"
---"Greywolf" (Lawrence 'Larry" Flowers) 7/16/19

IC | XC
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NI | KA
Tim
2020-04-30 14:07:07 UTC
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Really? What about agnosticism?
What about it?
An agnostic is just a Chickenshit atheist.
Agnostics don't believe its possible to know if God exists.
If I tell you I have a purple dragon in my garage, is your default that you can't know if I do or not?
None if the evidence given by believers has been found to be true in the attempts to prove God.
Which believers have you consulted?
Which atheists have you consulted.
I've listened to a number of atheists here, yourself included, and I continue to hear this very irrational claim that 'no evidence for God exists'.
If you're justified claiming it's irrational to say 'no evidence for God exists', then you obviously have evidence that god exists.

Your evidence for god:

<crickets>
Post by Kurt Nicklas
So I, very naturally, ask where have you looked?
And you? What did you see?
Post by Kurt Nicklas
Post by michellemalkingmail.com
We don't have leaders and are all individuals. And we also know that you don't listen to what we say,
On the contrary, I DO listen. Your problem is that, after I listen, I ask difficult questions that you'd rather not deal with.
LOL! Your MO is to run from facts and difficult questions, you dishonest kunt.
Post by Kurt Nicklas
Post by michellemalkingmail.com
since your 'mind' is constrained by your version of your religion.
On the contrary, I'm not constrained, as are you and other atheists here, by irrational thinking to buttress your belief systems.
So show us the rational evidence for your god.

<crickets>

"I guess proper punctuation isn't of much use in Toronto. Nothing there but tears and queers." May 15, 2019 - Kuntsy applies hate speech to an entire city over a punctuation error.

"Tim the Dim is canadian, Lo Mein." July 8, 2019 - Kuntsy demonstrates his marginal literacy and bigotry toward Chinese people.

"I didn't ask what it is, Lo Mein. Where is your pixie?" July 9, 2019 - Again kuntsy demonstrates his racist attitudes toward Chinese people.

"I can say the same thing about God, Lo Mein." July 10, 2019 - Kuntsy shows how grown up he is by believing in a sky daddy and using racist remarks.

"Playing dumb comes easy for you, Lo Mein." July 10, 2019 - More of kuntsy's racism.

"Really, Lo Mein? You still haven't told me where this pixie you call 'Nature' is located." July 10, 2019 - Kuntsy's moral high ground on display again.

"If you don't like to hear that, either apologize or stop reading my posts. That's simple, even for a canadian." July 15, 2019 - Kuntles shows off his grammar skills and hatred of the North.

"Forget Any Rand. She had no grasp of the real world." July 11, 2019 - Kuntsy demonstrates his grasp on spelling names.

"! The end of yet another leftwing dream" July 18, 2019 - Kuntsy thinks that subject titles should start with an exclamation mark and don't need periods!

"I looked high and low for you the same warning when the epithet belowed appeared on a.a." - Kuntsy perfects the bastardization of the English language, LOL!

"Hadn't you heard? Timmykins blames his empty head on the nature of the Universe so, of course, it's not his fault. After all, he didn't actually ask to born!" - Kuntsy emptied his head and poured religion in, LOL!

"No one who knows the history of the 20th century can have such a polyanna view of human 'empathy'." Oct, 28, 2019 - Kuntsy consults his "Any Rand" name dictionary, LOL!

"I don't know who you're talking abo" Nov 10, 2019 - Kuntsy proves, once again, that he doesn't know what he's talking about, LOL!

"I slogged all the way through the Quran. I've been in 4 or 5 mosques. Pass one almost ever day but I'm not convinced to convert, no." Nov 10, 2019. For kuntles The days last for "ever" in Plovdiv, LOL!

"Timmee just can't untangle those fingers sometimes!" Nov 21, 2019 - Kuntsy just can't figure out how to use commas, LOL!

"You can find an atheist who will tell you what you want to hear and you'll buy his books. Richard Dawson et al thank you for your support." - Kuntsy's favorite game show atheist, LOL!
Yap Honghor
2020-05-01 01:29:49 UTC
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Really? What about agnosticism?
What about it?
An agnostic is just a Chickenshit atheist.
Agnostics don't believe its possible to know if God exists.
If I tell you I have a purple dragon in my garage, is your default that you can't know if I do or not?
None if the evidence given by believers has been found to be true in the attempts to prove God.
Which believers have you consulted?
Which atheists have you consulted.
I've listened to a number of atheists here, yourself included, and I continue to hear this very irrational claim that 'no evidence for God exists'.
You have?
When we try to tell you that religion is a scam, you ignore!
Post by Kurt Nicklas
So I, very naturally, ask where have you looked?
Tell us then where to look...and it must be concrete to you first!!!!!
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Post by michellemalkingmail.com
We don't have leaders and are all individuals. And we also know that you don't listen to what we say,
On the contrary, I DO listen. Your problem is that, after I listen, I ask difficult questions that you'd rather not deal with.
Atheists are the smartest people on earth, but we don't deal with bullshit!
Post by Kurt Nicklas
Post by michellemalkingmail.com
since your 'mind' is constrained by your version of your religion.
On the contrary, I'm not constrained, as are you and other atheists here, by irrational thinking to buttress your belief systems.
See, you said we have a belief system....that is a lie!
Obviously, you think collecting stamps and bird watching are also belief system, right?
Post by Kurt Nicklas
----
"Have a nice day, and feel free to consume as much Zyklon B as you can."
---"Tim"(Beesley) 9/6/19
'Yeah, I'm an atheist! I'd like to gas all theists!!!'
--- "Malte Runz 5/17/19 who thinks it's funny to joke about threatening people he doesn't like.
"And trying jumping from a high rise, it is also an illusion!"
---"Yap Honghor" proving asian atheists also have death fantasies.
"I'm not interested in your faggot fantasies, faggot."
--- "Tim"(Beesley) 2/7/19
"Go suck on a can of Zyklon B, you ignorant fuck."
---"Tim"(Beesley) 8/13/17
" I'm the same Christian "killer" I've been for years and years"
---"Greywolf" (Lawrence 'Larry" Flowers) 7/16/19
IC | XC
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NI | KA
michellemalkingmail.com
2020-05-01 23:34:38 UTC
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Really? What about agnosticism?
What about it?
An agnostic is just a Chickenshit atheist.
Agnostics don't believe its possible to know if God exists.
If I tell you I have a purple dragon in my garage, is your default that you can't know if I do or not?
None if the evidence given by believers has been found to be true in the attempts to prove God.
Which believers have you consulted?
Which atheists have you consulted.
I've listened to a number of atheists here, yourself included, and I continue to hear this very irrational claim that 'no evidence for God exists'.
So I, very naturally, ask where have you looked?
Post by michellemalkingmail.com
We don't have leaders and are all individuals. And we also know that you don't listen to what we say,
On the contrary, I DO listen. Your problem is that, after I listen, I ask difficult questions that you'd rather not deal with.
Post by michellemalkingmail.com
since your 'mind' is constrained by your version of your religion.
On the contrary, I'm not constrained, as are you and other atheists here, by irrational thinking to buttress your belief systems.
Doncha just love it when fundies try to use atheist arguments? They fail
to convince us with their arguments, so they apply ours to theirs.
Kurt Nicklas
2020-05-04 05:45:06 UTC
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Really? What about agnosticism?
What about it?
An agnostic is just a Chickenshit atheist.
Agnostics don't believe its possible to know if God exists.
If I tell you I have a purple dragon in my garage, is your default that you can't know if I do or not?
None if the evidence given by believers has been found to be true in the attempts to prove God.
Which believers have you consulted?
Which atheists have you consulted.
I've listened to a number of atheists here, yourself included, and I continue to hear this very irrational claim that 'no evidence for God exists'.
So I, very naturally, ask where have you looked?
Post by michellemalkingmail.com
We don't have leaders and are all individuals. And we also know that you don't listen to what we say,
On the contrary, I DO listen. Your problem is that, after I listen, I ask difficult questions that you'd rather not deal with.
Post by michellemalkingmail.com
since your 'mind' is constrained by your version of your religion.
On the contrary, I'm not constrained, as are you and other atheists here, by irrational thinking to buttress your belief systems.
Doncha just love it when fundies try to use atheist arguments? They fail
to convince us with their arguments, so they apply ours to theirs.
Do you understand the difference between claiming 'there is no evidence for the existence of God' and 'I've not seen any evidence for the existence of God'?

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"You worship yourself, and I'll be glad when you drop dead from AIDS."
---"Tim"(Beesley)11/18/19 What would Timmy's mom say??

"Enjoy your AIDS infection, and die soon."
---"Tim"(Beesley)11/19/19 What would Timmy's mom say??
Tim
2020-05-04 09:45:37 UTC
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Really? What about agnosticism?
What about it?
An agnostic is just a Chickenshit atheist.
Agnostics don't believe its possible to know if God exists.
If I tell you I have a purple dragon in my garage, is your default that you can't know if I do or not?
None if the evidence given by believers has been found to be true in the attempts to prove God.
Which believers have you consulted?
Which atheists have you consulted.
I've listened to a number of atheists here, yourself included, and I continue to hear this very irrational claim that 'no evidence for God exists'.
So I, very naturally, ask where have you looked?
Post by michellemalkingmail.com
We don't have leaders and are all individuals. And we also know that you don't listen to what we say,
On the contrary, I DO listen. Your problem is that, after I listen, I ask difficult questions that you'd rather not deal with.
Post by michellemalkingmail.com
since your 'mind' is constrained by your version of your religion.
On the contrary, I'm not constrained, as are you and other atheists here, by irrational thinking to buttress your belief systems.
Doncha just love it when fundies try to use atheist arguments? They fail
to convince us with their arguments, so they apply ours to theirs.
Do you understand the difference between claiming 'there is no evidence for the existence of God' and 'I've not seen any evidence for the existence of God'?
If you have evidence, then show it.

<crickets>


"I guess proper punctuation isn't of much use in Toronto. Nothing there but tears and queers." May 15, 2019 - Kuntsy applies hate speech to an entire city over a punctuation error.

"Tim the Dim is canadian, Lo Mein." July 8, 2019 - Kuntsy demonstrates his marginal literacy and bigotry toward Chinese people.

"I didn't ask what it is, Lo Mein. Where is your pixie?" July 9, 2019 - Again kuntsy demonstrates his racist attitudes toward Chinese people.

"I can say the same thing about God, Lo Mein." July 10, 2019 - Kuntsy shows how grown up he is by believing in a sky daddy and using racist remarks.

"Playing dumb comes easy for you, Lo Mein." July 10, 2019 - More of kuntsy's racism.

"Really, Lo Mein? You still haven't told me where this pixie you call 'Nature' is located." July 10, 2019 - Kuntsy's moral high ground on display again.

"If you don't like to hear that, either apologize or stop reading my posts. That's simple, even for a canadian." July 15, 2019 - Kuntles shows off his grammar skills and hatred of the North.

"Forget Any Rand. She had no grasp of the real world." July 11, 2019 - Kuntsy demonstrates his grasp on spelling names.

"! The end of yet another leftwing dream" July 18, 2019 - Kuntsy thinks that subject titles should start with an exclamation mark and don't need periods!

"I looked high and low for you the same warning when the epithet belowed appeared on a.a." - Kuntsy perfects the bastardization of the English language, LOL!

"Hadn't you heard? Timmykins blames his empty head on the nature of the Universe so, of course, it's not his fault. After all, he didn't actually ask to born!" - Kuntsy emptied his head and poured religion in, LOL!

"No one who knows the history of the 20th century can have such a polyanna view of human 'empathy'." Oct, 28, 2019 - Kuntsy consults his "Any Rand" name dictionary, LOL!

"I don't know who you're talking abo" Nov 10, 2019 - Kuntsy proves, once again, that he doesn't know what he's talking about, LOL!

"I slogged all the way through the Quran. I've been in 4 or 5 mosques. Pass one almost ever day but I'm not convinced to convert, no." Nov 10, 2019. For kuntles The days last for "ever" in Plovdiv, LOL!

"Timmee just can't untangle those fingers sometimes!" Nov 21, 2019 - Kuntsy just can't figure out how to use commas, LOL!

"You can find an atheist who will tell you what you want to hear and you'll buy his books. Richard Dawson et al thank you for your support." - Kuntsy's favorite game show atheist, LOL!
Kurt Nicklas
2020-05-04 10:44:22 UTC
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Really? What about agnosticism?
What about it?
An agnostic is just a Chickenshit atheist.
Agnostics don't believe its possible to know if God exists.
If I tell you I have a purple dragon in my garage, is your default that you can't know if I do or not?
None if the evidence given by believers has been found to be true in the attempts to prove God.
Which believers have you consulted?
Which atheists have you consulted.
I've listened to a number of atheists here, yourself included, and I continue to hear this very irrational claim that 'no evidence for God exists'.
So I, very naturally, ask where have you looked?
Post by michellemalkingmail.com
We don't have leaders and are all individuals. And we also know that you don't listen to what we say,
On the contrary, I DO listen. Your problem is that, after I listen, I ask difficult questions that you'd rather not deal with.
Post by michellemalkingmail.com
since your 'mind' is constrained by your version of your religion.
On the contrary, I'm not constrained, as are you and other atheists here, by irrational thinking to buttress your belief systems.
Doncha just love it when fundies try to use atheist arguments? They fail
to convince us with their arguments, so they apply ours to theirs.
Do you understand the difference between claiming 'there is no evidence for the existence of God' and 'I've not seen any evidence for the existence of God'?
If you have evidence, then show it.
Timmy, we already know YOU don't know the difference between the above two claims.

Best retire before you embarrass yourself once again and let MM take a stand instead.

"your a coward and a liar."
---"Tim"(Beesley)11/5/19 laugh-a-minute!

"No, you're running away because your an intellectual coward."
---"Tim"(Beesley) 4/19/20 "your'? LOL There's that Power of canadian education again.

"Now you contradicting your god..."
---"Tim"(Beesley) 4/18/20 Timikins' verb problems continue. LOL

"Because, like everything else your blabber on about,..."
--"Tim"(Beesley) 4/21/20 More apostrophe craziness from Timmi B.
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<crickets>
"I guess proper punctuation isn't of much use in Toronto. Nothing there but tears and queers." May 15, 2019 - Kuntsy applies hate speech to an entire city over a punctuation error.
"Tim the Dim is canadian, Lo Mein." July 8, 2019 - Kuntsy demonstrates his marginal literacy and bigotry toward Chinese people.
"I didn't ask what it is, Lo Mein. Where is your pixie?" July 9, 2019 - Again kuntsy demonstrates his racist attitudes toward Chinese people.
"I can say the same thing about God, Lo Mein." July 10, 2019 - Kuntsy shows how grown up he is by believing in a sky daddy and using racist remarks.
"Playing dumb comes easy for you, Lo Mein." July 10, 2019 - More of kuntsy's racism.
"Really, Lo Mein? You still haven't told me where this pixie you call 'Nature' is located." July 10, 2019 - Kuntsy's moral high ground on display again.
"If you don't like to hear that, either apologize or stop reading my posts. That's simple, even for a canadian." July 15, 2019 - Kuntles shows off his grammar skills and hatred of the North.
"Forget Any Rand. She had no grasp of the real world." July 11, 2019 - Kuntsy demonstrates his grasp on spelling names.
"! The end of yet another leftwing dream" July 18, 2019 - Kuntsy thinks that subject titles should start with an exclamation mark and don't need periods!
"I looked high and low for you the same warning when the epithet belowed appeared on a.a." - Kuntsy perfects the bastardization of the English language, LOL!
"Hadn't you heard? Timmykins blames his empty head on the nature of the Universe so, of course, it's not his fault. After all, he didn't actually ask to born!" - Kuntsy emptied his head and poured religion in, LOL!
"No one who knows the history of the 20th century can have such a polyanna view of human 'empathy'." Oct, 28, 2019 - Kuntsy consults his "Any Rand" name dictionary, LOL!
"I don't know who you're talking abo" Nov 10, 2019 - Kuntsy proves, once again, that he doesn't know what he's talking about, LOL!
"I slogged all the way through the Quran. I've been in 4 or 5 mosques. Pass one almost ever day but I'm not convinced to convert, no." Nov 10, 2019. For kuntles The days last for "ever" in Plovdiv, LOL!
"Timmee just can't untangle those fingers sometimes!" Nov 21, 2019 - Kuntsy just can't figure out how to use commas, LOL!
"You can find an atheist who will tell you what you want to hear and you'll buy his books. Richard Dawson et al thank you for your support." - Kuntsy's favorite game show atheist, LOL!
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2020-05-04 20:51:48 UTC
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Really? What about agnosticism?
What about it?
An agnostic is just a Chickenshit atheist.
Agnostics don't believe its possible to know if God exists.
If I tell you I have a purple dragon in my garage, is your default that you can't know if I do or not?
None if the evidence given by believers has been found to be true in the attempts to prove God.
Which believers have you consulted?
Which atheists have you consulted.
I've listened to a number of atheists here, yourself included, and I continue to hear this very irrational claim that 'no evidence for God exists'.
So I, very naturally, ask where have you looked?
Post by michellemalkingmail.com
We don't have leaders and are all individuals. And we also know that you don't listen to what we say,
On the contrary, I DO listen. Your problem is that, after I listen, I ask difficult questions that you'd rather not deal with.
Post by michellemalkingmail.com
since your 'mind' is constrained by your version of your religion.
On the contrary, I'm not constrained, as are you and other atheists here, by irrational thinking to buttress your belief systems.
Doncha just love it when fundies try to use atheist arguments? They fail
to convince us with their arguments, so they apply ours to theirs.
Do you understand the difference between claiming 'there is no evidence for the existence of God' and 'I've not seen any evidence for the existence of God'?
If you have evidence, then show it.
Timmy, we already know YOU don't know the difference between the above two claims.
Best retire before you embarrass yourself once again and let MM take a stand instead.
Me embarrassed, LOL! I checked with the famous atheist "Richard Dawson", he says I'm fine. "Any Rand" also confirmed it, LOL!

So you have no evidence, so you resort to lame excuses and lies. Poor kuntsy.

"I guess proper punctuation isn't of much use in Toronto. Nothing there but tears and queers." May 15, 2019 - Kuntsy applies hate speech to an entire city over a punctuation error.

"Tim the Dim is canadian, Lo Mein." July 8, 2019 - Kuntsy demonstrates his marginal literacy and bigotry toward Chinese people.

"I didn't ask what it is, Lo Mein. Where is your pixie?" July 9, 2019 - Again kuntsy demonstrates his racist attitudes toward Chinese people.

"I can say the same thing about God, Lo Mein." July 10, 2019 - Kuntsy shows how grown up he is by believing in a sky daddy and using racist remarks.

"Playing dumb comes easy for you, Lo Mein." July 10, 2019 - More of kuntsy's racism.

"Really, Lo Mein? You still haven't told me where this pixie you call 'Nature' is located." July 10, 2019 - Kuntsy's moral high ground on display again.

"If you don't like to hear that, either apologize or stop reading my posts. That's simple, even for a canadian." July 15, 2019 - Kuntles shows off his grammar skills and hatred of the North.

"Forget Any Rand. She had no grasp of the real world." July 11, 2019 - Kuntsy demonstrates his grasp on spelling names.

"! The end of yet another leftwing dream" July 18, 2019 - Kuntsy thinks that subject titles should start with an exclamation mark and don't need periods!

"I looked high and low for you the same warning when the epithet belowed appeared on a.a." - Kuntsy perfects the bastardization of the English language, LOL!

"Hadn't you heard? Timmykins blames his empty head on the nature of the Universe so, of course, it's not his fault. After all, he didn't actually ask to born!" - Kuntsy emptied his head and poured religion in, LOL!

"No one who knows the history of the 20th century can have such a polyanna view of human 'empathy'." Oct, 28, 2019 - Kuntsy consults his "Any Rand" name dictionary, LOL!

"I don't know who you're talking abo" Nov 10, 2019 - Kuntsy proves, once again, that he doesn't know what he's talking about, LOL!

"I slogged all the way through the Quran. I've been in 4 or 5 mosques. Pass one almost ever day but I'm not convinced to convert, no." Nov 10, 2019. For kuntles The days last for "ever" in Plovdiv, LOL!

"Timmee just can't untangle those fingers sometimes!" Nov 21, 2019 - Kuntsy just can't figure out how to use commas, LOL!

"You can find an atheist who will tell you what you want to hear and you'll buy his books. Richard Dawson et al thank you for your support." - Kuntsy's favorite game show atheist, LOL!
Kurt Nicklas
2020-05-05 04:20:07 UTC
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Really? What about agnosticism?
What about it?
An agnostic is just a Chickenshit atheist.
Agnostics don't believe its possible to know if God exists.
If I tell you I have a purple dragon in my garage, is your default that you can't know if I do or not?
None if the evidence given by believers has been found to be true in the attempts to prove God.
Which believers have you consulted?
Which atheists have you consulted.
I've listened to a number of atheists here, yourself included, and I continue to hear this very irrational claim that 'no evidence for God exists'.
So I, very naturally, ask where have you looked?
Post by michellemalkingmail.com
We don't have leaders and are all individuals. And we also know that you don't listen to what we say,
On the contrary, I DO listen. Your problem is that, after I listen, I ask difficult questions that you'd rather not deal with.
Post by michellemalkingmail.com
since your 'mind' is constrained by your version of your religion.
On the contrary, I'm not constrained, as are you and other atheists here, by irrational thinking to buttress your belief systems.
Doncha just love it when fundies try to use atheist arguments? They fail
to convince us with their arguments, so they apply ours to theirs.
Do you understand the difference between claiming 'there is no evidence for the existence of God' and 'I've not seen any evidence for the existence of God'?
If you have evidence, then show it.
Timmy, we already know YOU don't know the difference between the above two claims.
Best retire before you embarrass yourself once again and let MM take a stand instead.
Me embarrassed, LOL!
<snickers>

"You worship yourself, and I'll be glad when you drop dead from AIDS."
---"Tim"(Beesley)11/19/19
"That is bigoted in the extreme."
---Kevrob 11/19/19

"You have some nerve calling others stupid, you stupid jew."
---"Tim"(Beesley) 4/6/19

"But I'm not doing it for you, lazy jew."
---"Tim"(Beesley) 3/29/19

"Go suck on a can of Zyklon B, you ignorant fuck."
---"Tim"(Beesley) 8/13/17
Tim
2020-05-05 09:47:50 UTC
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Really? What about agnosticism?
What about it?
An agnostic is just a Chickenshit atheist.
Agnostics don't believe its possible to know if God exists.
If I tell you I have a purple dragon in my garage, is your default that you can't know if I do or not?
None if the evidence given by believers has been found to be true in the attempts to prove God.
Which believers have you consulted?
Which atheists have you consulted.
I've listened to a number of atheists here, yourself included, and I continue to hear this very irrational claim that 'no evidence for God exists'.
So I, very naturally, ask where have you looked?
Post by michellemalkingmail.com
We don't have leaders and are all individuals. And we also know that you don't listen to what we say,
On the contrary, I DO listen. Your problem is that, after I listen, I ask difficult questions that you'd rather not deal with.
Post by michellemalkingmail.com
since your 'mind' is constrained by your version of your religion.
On the contrary, I'm not constrained, as are you and other atheists here, by irrational thinking to buttress your belief systems.
Doncha just love it when fundies try to use atheist arguments? They fail
to convince us with their arguments, so they apply ours to theirs.
Do you understand the difference between claiming 'there is no evidence for the existence of God' and 'I've not seen any evidence for the existence of God'?
If you have evidence, then show it.
Timmy, we already know YOU don't know the difference between the above two claims.
Best retire before you embarrass yourself once again and let MM take a stand instead.
Me embarrassed, LOL!
<snickers>
"I guess proper punctuation isn't of much use in Toronto. Nothing there but tears and queers." May 15, 2019 - Kuntsy applies hate speech to an entire city over a punctuation error.

"Tim the Dim is canadian, Lo Mein." July 8, 2019 - Kuntsy demonstrates his marginal literacy and bigotry toward Chinese people.

"I didn't ask what it is, Lo Mein. Where is your pixie?" July 9, 2019 - Again kuntsy demonstrates his racist attitudes toward Chinese people.

"I can say the same thing about God, Lo Mein." July 10, 2019 - Kuntsy shows how grown up he is by believing in a sky daddy and using racist remarks.

"Playing dumb comes easy for you, Lo Mein." July 10, 2019 - More of kuntsy's racism.

"Really, Lo Mein? You still haven't told me where this pixie you call 'Nature' is located." July 10, 2019 - Kuntsy's moral high ground on display again.

"If you don't like to hear that, either apologize or stop reading my posts. That's simple, even for a canadian." July 15, 2019 - Kuntles shows off his grammar skills and hatred of the North.

"Forget Any Rand. She had no grasp of the real world." July 11, 2019 - Kuntsy demonstrates his grasp on spelling names.

"! The end of yet another leftwing dream" July 18, 2019 - Kuntsy thinks that subject titles should start with an exclamation mark and don't need periods!

"I looked high and low for you the same warning when the epithet belowed appeared on a.a." - Kuntsy perfects the bastardization of the English language, LOL!

"Hadn't you heard? Timmykins blames his empty head on the nature of the Universe so, of course, it's not his fault. After all, he didn't actually ask to born!" - Kuntsy emptied his head and poured religion in, LOL!

"No one who knows the history of the 20th century can have such a polyanna view of human 'empathy'." Oct, 28, 2019 - Kuntsy consults his "Any Rand" name dictionary, LOL!

"I don't know who you're talking abo" Nov 10, 2019 - Kuntsy proves, once again, that he doesn't know what he's talking about, LOL!

"I slogged all the way through the Quran. I've been in 4 or 5 mosques. Pass one almost ever day but I'm not convinced to convert, no." Nov 10, 2019. For kuntles The days last for "ever" in Plovdiv, LOL!

"Timmee just can't untangle those fingers sometimes!" Nov 21, 2019 - Kuntsy just can't figure out how to use commas, LOL!

"You can find an atheist who will tell you what you want to hear and you'll buy his books. Richard Dawson et al thank you for your support." - Kuntsy's favorite game show atheist, LOL!
Yap Honghor
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Really? What about agnosticism?
What about it?
An agnostic is just a Chickenshit atheist.
Agnostics don't believe its possible to know if God exists.
If I tell you I have a purple dragon in my garage, is your default that you can't know if I do or not?
None if the evidence given by believers has been found to be true in the attempts to prove God.
Which believers have you consulted?
Which atheists have you consulted.
I've listened to a number of atheists here, yourself included, and I continue to hear this very irrational claim that 'no evidence for God exists'.
So I, very naturally, ask where have you looked?
Post by michellemalkingmail.com
We don't have leaders and are all individuals. And we also know that you don't listen to what we say,
On the contrary, I DO listen. Your problem is that, after I listen, I ask difficult questions that you'd rather not deal with.
Post by michellemalkingmail.com
since your 'mind' is constrained by your version of your religion.
On the contrary, I'm not constrained, as are you and other atheists here, by irrational thinking to buttress your belief systems.
Doncha just love it when fundies try to use atheist arguments? They fail
to convince us with their arguments, so they apply ours to theirs.
Do you understand the difference between claiming 'there is no evidence for the existence of God' and 'I've not seen any evidence for the existence of God'?
They are essentially of the same meaning...expressed differently!
"Positive of not having one" and "have never seen one" have some difference in the expression, that is all!
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"You worship yourself, and I'll be glad when you drop dead from AIDS."
---"Tim"(Beesley)11/18/19 What would Timmy's mom say??
"Enjoy your AIDS infection, and die soon."
---"Tim"(Beesley)11/19/19 What would Timmy's mom say??
Kurt Nicklas
2020-05-04 10:41:49 UTC
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Really? What about agnosticism?
What about it?
An agnostic is just a Chickenshit atheist.
Agnostics don't believe its possible to know if God exists.
If I tell you I have a purple dragon in my garage, is your default that you can't know if I do or not?
None if the evidence given by believers has been found to be true in the attempts to prove God.
Which believers have you consulted?
Which atheists have you consulted.
I've listened to a number of atheists here, yourself included, and I continue to hear this very irrational claim that 'no evidence for God exists'.
So I, very naturally, ask where have you looked?
Post by michellemalkingmail.com
We don't have leaders and are all individuals. And we also know that you don't listen to what we say,
On the contrary, I DO listen. Your problem is that, after I listen, I ask difficult questions that you'd rather not deal with.
Post by michellemalkingmail.com
since your 'mind' is constrained by your version of your religion.
On the contrary, I'm not constrained, as are you and other atheists here, by irrational thinking to buttress your belief systems.
Doncha just love it when fundies try to use atheist arguments? They fail
to convince us with their arguments, so they apply ours to theirs.
Do you understand the difference between claiming 'there is no evidence for the existence of God' and 'I've not seen any evidence for the existence of God'?
They are essentially of the same meaning...expressed differently!
"Positive of not having one" and "have never seen one" have some difference in the expression, that is all!
Is that what your level A1 translation software tells you?
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"You worship yourself, and I'll be glad when you drop dead from AIDS."
---"Tim"(Beesley)11/18/19 What would Timmy's mom say??
"Enjoy your AIDS infection, and die soon."
---"Tim"(Beesley)11/19/19 What would Timmy's mom say??
Syd M.
2020-05-04 13:32:57 UTC
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Really? What about agnosticism?
What about it?
An agnostic is just a Chickenshit atheist.
Agnostics don't believe its possible to know if God exists.
If I tell you I have a purple dragon in my garage, is your default that you can't know if I do or not?
None if the evidence given by believers has been found to be true in the attempts to prove God.
Which believers have you consulted?
Which atheists have you consulted.
I've listened to a number of atheists here, yourself included, and I continue to hear this very irrational claim that 'no evidence for God exists'.
So I, very naturally, ask where have you looked?
Post by michellemalkingmail.com
We don't have leaders and are all individuals. And we also know that you don't listen to what we say,
On the contrary, I DO listen. Your problem is that, after I listen, I ask difficult questions that you'd rather not deal with.
Post by michellemalkingmail.com
since your 'mind' is constrained by your version of your religion.
On the contrary, I'm not constrained, as are you and other atheists here, by irrational thinking to buttress your belief systems.
Doncha just love it when fundies try to use atheist arguments? They fail
to convince us with their arguments, so they apply ours to theirs.
Do you understand the difference between claiming 'there is no evidence for the existence of God' and 'I've not seen any evidence for the existence of God'?
They are essentially of the same meaning...expressed differently!
"Positive of not having one" and "have never seen one" have some difference in the expression, that is all!
Is that what your level A1 translation software tells you?
Is that another non-answer from a theist?

PDW
Kurt Nicklas
2020-05-04 13:54:07 UTC
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Really? What about agnosticism?
What about it?
An agnostic is just a Chickenshit atheist.
Agnostics don't believe its possible to know if God exists.
If I tell you I have a purple dragon in my garage, is your default that you can't know if I do or not?
None if the evidence given by believers has been found to be true in the attempts to prove God.
Which believers have you consulted?
Which atheists have you consulted.
I've listened to a number of atheists here, yourself included, and I continue to hear this very irrational claim that 'no evidence for God exists'.
So I, very naturally, ask where have you looked?
Post by michellemalkingmail.com
We don't have leaders and are all individuals. And we also know that you don't listen to what we say,
On the contrary, I DO listen. Your problem is that, after I listen, I ask difficult questions that you'd rather not deal with.
Post by michellemalkingmail.com
since your 'mind' is constrained by your version of your religion.
On the contrary, I'm not constrained, as are you and other atheists here, by irrational thinking to buttress your belief systems.
Doncha just love it when fundies try to use atheist arguments? They fail
to convince us with their arguments, so they apply ours to theirs.
Do you understand the difference between claiming 'there is no evidence for the existence of God' and 'I've not seen any evidence for the existence of God'?
They are essentially of the same meaning...expressed differently!
"Positive of not having one" and "have never seen one" have some difference in the expression, that is all!
Is that what your level A1 translation software tells you?
Is that another non-answer from a theist?
If you'll actually read what I wrote you'll see that it was I asking the questions.

So let me repeat my question and you can take your best shot at answering:

Do you understand the difference between claiming 'there is no evidence for the existence of God' and 'I've not seen any evidence for the existence of God'?
Peter Pan
2020-05-05 00:25:38 UTC
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If you'll actually read what I wrote you'll see that it was I asking the questions.
Lol. You're funny, Kurt.
Kurt Nicklas
2020-05-05 04:18:22 UTC
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If you'll actually read what I wrote you'll see that it was I asking the questions.
Lol. You're funny, Kurt.
I should be concerned about the opinion of someone calling himself "Peter Pan"?

Lol.
Peter Pan
2020-05-05 08:24:10 UTC
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If you'll actually read what I wrote you'll see that it was I asking the questions.
Lol. You're funny, Kurt.
I should be concerned about the opinion of someone calling himself "Peter Pan"?
Lol.
No. You should demonstrate your disdain by ignoring me.
And finding another ng.
Kurt Nicklas
2020-05-05 09:26:52 UTC
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If you'll actually read what I wrote you'll see that it was I asking the questions.
Lol. You're funny, Kurt.
I should be concerned about the opinion of someone calling himself "Peter Pan"?
Lol.
No. You should demonstrate your disdain by ignoring me.
And finding another ng.
Take your own advice, "Peter".
Peter Pan
2020-05-06 23:28:23 UTC
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If you'll actually read what I wrote you'll see that it was I asking the questions.
Lol. You're funny, Kurt.
I should be concerned about the opinion of someone calling himself "Peter Pan"?
Lol.
No. You should demonstrate your disdain by ignoring me.
And finding another ng.
Take your own advice, "Peter".
You're the one who wants to show how little you care. It
is funny to hear you tell someone they need to actually
read what you wrote.

Being that you think geocentrism is science, it's easy to
see why you would posture as unconcerned about anyone's
opinion.
Syd M.
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Really? What about agnosticism?
What about it?
An agnostic is just a Chickenshit atheist.
Agnostics don't believe its possible to know if God exists.
If I tell you I have a purple dragon in my garage, is your default that you can't know if I do or not?
None if the evidence given by believers has been found to be true in the attempts to prove God.
Which believers have you consulted?
Which atheists have you consulted.
I've listened to a number of atheists here, yourself included, and I continue to hear this very irrational claim that 'no evidence for God exists'.
So I, very naturally, ask where have you looked?
Post by michellemalkingmail.com
We don't have leaders and are all individuals. And we also know that you don't listen to what we say,
On the contrary, I DO listen. Your problem is that, after I listen, I ask difficult questions that you'd rather not deal with.
Post by michellemalkingmail.com
since your 'mind' is constrained by your version of your religion.
On the contrary, I'm not constrained, as are you and other atheists here, by irrational thinking to buttress your belief systems.
Doncha just love it when fundies try to use atheist arguments? They fail
to convince us with their arguments, so they apply ours to theirs.
Do you understand the difference between claiming 'there is no evidence for the existence of God' and 'I've not seen any evidence for the existence of God'?
They are essentially of the same meaning...expressed differently!
"Positive of not having one" and "have never seen one" have some difference in the expression, that is all!
Is that what your level A1 translation software tells you?
Is that another non-answer from a theist?
If you'll actually read what I wrote you'll see that it was I asking the questions.
Do you understand the difference between claiming 'there is no evidence for the existence of God' and 'I've not seen any evidence for the existence of God'?
Take your own advise, Kkkurt.

PDw
Christopher A. Lee
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Do you understand the difference between claiming 'there is no
evidence for the existence of God' and 'I've not seen any evidence
for the existence of God'?
WHAT FUCKING "CLAIM"?

The moron doesn't understand the difference between a claim and a
falsifiable conclusion based on theists never providing any evidence
when challenged to put up or shut up, and instead resorting to all
sorts of fallacies, lies as ad hominems and other copouts,

If they actually had anything, they would have provided it long ago,
but every transparent copout is a data point against..

Or pretends he doesn't, because he's being a deliberate jerk.

Every single time they do this, is a data point supporting the
conclusion. So far it is gajillions.for that conclusion, and none
against it.
Post by Syd M.
Take your own advise, Kkkurt.
It's deliberate.
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PDw
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2020-05-07 18:30:01 UTC
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Do you understand the difference between claiming 'there is no
evidence for the existence of God' and 'I've not seen any evidence
for the existence of God'?
WHAT FUCKING "CLAIM"?
It's when Michelle M or Cloud H. or Timmy the Nazi says
'There is no evidence for the existence of God.'

That F...ING "CLAIM", YOU PINHEAD.
Post by Christopher A. Lee
The moron doesn't understand the difference between a claim and a
falsifiable conclusion based on theists never providing any evidence
Relying on a.a posters? There's a big world out there, CHRISTopher.

Where have you looked for evidence?

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2020-05-08 00:40:37 UTC
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Post by Kurt Nicklas
Do you understand the difference between claiming 'there is no
evidence for the existence of God' and 'I've not seen any evidence
for the existence of God'?
WHAT FUCKING "CLAIM"?
It's when Michelle M or Cloud H. or Timmy the Nazi says
'There is no evidence for the existence of God.'
And it is the truth!!!!!!!!
Post by Kurt Nicklas
That F...ING "CLAIM", YOU PINHEAD.
That is not a claim, Broken Head...unless you prove us wrong!
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Post by Christopher A. Lee
The moron doesn't understand the difference between a claim and a
falsifiable conclusion based on theists never providing any evidence
Relying on a.a posters? There's a big world out there, CHRISTopher.
Where have you looked for evidence?
Now, you want atheists to provide evidence for your pixie?
You theists only know how to ditch your own responsibility?
Christopher A. Lee
2020-05-08 13:10:33 UTC
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On Thu, 7 May 2020 10:20:23 -0700 (PDT), "Syd M."
Post by Kurt Nicklas
Do you understand the difference between claiming 'there is no
evidence for the existence of God' and 'I've not seen any evidence
for the existence of God'?
WHAT FUCKING "CLAIM"?
It's when Michelle M or Cloud H. or Timmy the Nazi says
'There is no evidence for the existence of God.'
A deliberate lie.
Post by Yap Honghor
And it is the truth!!!!!!!!
Post by Kurt Nicklas
That F...ING "CLAIM", YOU PINHEAD.
LIAR.
Post by Yap Honghor
That is not a claim, Broken Head...unless you prove us wrong!
The deliberately nasty, in-your-face liar pretends that a reasoned,
falsifiable conclusion about something neither he nor any other theist
has shown has any importance or relevance outside their religion and
which they can't stop obsessively wiping in our faces day in and day
out, is a claim.

It's standard fundie behaviour to replace words actually used, with
other ones to twist explanations into something else.
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Post by Christopher A. Lee
The moron doesn't understand the difference between a claim and a
falsifiable conclusion based on theists never providing any evidence
Relying on a.a posters? There's a big world out there, CHRISTopher.
Where have you looked for evidence?
WHAT FUCKING "EVIDENCE"?

These psychos talk about "the evidence" but never provide anything,
let alone defend it as such,
Post by Yap Honghor
Now, you want atheists to provide evidence for your pixie?
You theists only know how to ditch your own responsibility?
Try communicating anything to ignorant, dumbed-down people with a
limited, dumbed-down vocabulary which has removed nuances of meanings
from the words they use, and eliminated the words you use.

Concepts can't even be framed, let alone communicated - and the trolls
do this deliberately.
Kurt Nicklas
2020-05-08 15:12:16 UTC
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On Thu, 7 May 2020 10:20:23 -0700 (PDT), "Syd M."
Post by Kurt Nicklas
Do you understand the difference between claiming 'there is no
evidence for the existence of God' and 'I've not seen any evidence
for the existence of God'?
WHAT FUCKING "CLAIM"?
It's when Michelle M or Cloud H. or Timmy the Nazi says
'There is no evidence for the existence of God.'
A deliberate lie.
Nonsense. The claim has been made over and over by multiple atheists. If CHRISTopher wanted to confirm that - which he doesn't - he can simply do a search of the newsgroup.
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And it is the truth!!!!!!!!
Post by Kurt Nicklas
That F...ING "CLAIM", YOU PINHEAD.
LIAR.
Of course it's a claim.

"a statement that something is true or is a fact, although other people might not believe it"

The only way you can prove your claim is examine all the available evidence. Failing that, you can only rationally claim that you have not seen any evidence which seems convincing to you.

Also, as I've pointed out before, to make a statement that conflicts with your beliefs, CHRISTopher is not the same as lying.
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Post by Yap Honghor
That is not a claim, Broken Head...unless you prove us wrong!
The deliberately nasty, in-your-face liar pretends that a reasoned,
falsifiable conclusion about something neither he nor any other theist
has shown has any importance or relevance outside their religion and
which they can't stop obsessively wiping in our faces day in and day
out, is a claim.
The fact that you've not seen any convincing evidence for the existence of God does not prove your claim that "no evidence exists".
Post by Christopher A. Lee
It's standard fundie behaviour to replace words actually used, with
other ones to twist explanations into something else.
Which, of course, is just what YOU try to do over and over.

And you know it.
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Post by Kurt Nicklas
Post by Christopher A. Lee
The moron doesn't understand the difference between a claim and a
falsifiable conclusion based on theists never providing any evidence
Relying on a.a posters? There's a big world out there, CHRISTopher.
Where have you looked for evidence?
WHAT FUCKING "EVIDENCE"?
The evidence that you haven't seen.
Post by Christopher A. Lee
These psychos talk about "the evidence" but never provide anything,
let alone defend it as such,
You've been presented with evidence. You've rejected it. That, however, doesn't mean that no evidence exists.

Billions of people believe in God. Have you talked to them?
Post by Christopher A. Lee
Post by Yap Honghor
Now, you want atheists to provide evidence for your pixie?
You theists only know how to ditch your own responsibility?
Try communicating anything to ignorant, dumbed-down people with a
limited, dumbed-down vocabulary which has removed nuances of meanings
from the words they use, and eliminated the words you use.
It's the meanings of words like 'claim', 'evidence','conclusion' and 'belief' that you'd
like to change.
Post by Christopher A. Lee
Concepts can't even be framed, let alone communicated - and the trolls
do this deliberately.
What I do...and have for years...is pop the bubbles of your pretenses, CHRISTopher.

And you hate me for it and fear me.

That's why you can't bring yourself to respond to my posts directly.
Cloud Hobbit
2020-05-08 19:53:12 UTC
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Relying on a.a posters? There's a big world out there, CHRISTopher.
Where have you looked for evidence?
What evidence do YOU have?
Where did you find it?

Why do think it important to believe in God?

What benefit have you received from that belief?

Is it that you believe God's morality is better than a morality based on empathy and reason?

What is your evidence for God? What convinced you?

Kurt Nicklas
2020-05-07 18:30:43 UTC
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Really? What about agnosticism?
What about it?
An agnostic is just a Chickenshit atheist.
Agnostics don't believe its possible to know if God exists.
If I tell you I have a purple dragon in my garage, is your default that you can't know if I do or not?
None if the evidence given by believers has been found to be true in the attempts to prove God.
Which believers have you consulted?
Which atheists have you consulted.
I've listened to a number of atheists here, yourself included, and I continue to hear this very irrational claim that 'no evidence for God exists'.
So I, very naturally, ask where have you looked?
Post by michellemalkingmail.com
We don't have leaders and are all individuals. And we also know that you don't listen to what we say,
On the contrary, I DO listen. Your problem is that, after I listen, I ask difficult questions that you'd rather not deal with.
Post by michellemalkingmail.com
since your 'mind' is constrained by your version of your religion.
On the contrary, I'm not constrained, as are you and other atheists here, by irrational thinking to buttress your belief systems.
Doncha just love it when fundies try to use atheist arguments? They fail
to convince us with their arguments, so they apply ours to theirs.
Do you understand the difference between claiming 'there is no evidence for the existence of God' and 'I've not seen any evidence for the existence of God'?
They are essentially of the same meaning...expressed differently!
"Positive of not having one" and "have never seen one" have some difference in the expression, that is all!
Is that what your level A1 translation software tells you?
Is that another non-answer from a theist?
If you'll actually read what I wrote you'll see that it was I asking the questions.
Do you understand the difference between claiming 'there is no evidence for the existence of God' and 'I've not seen any evidence for the existence of God'?
Take your own advise, Kkkurt.
What "advise"(sic)?
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PDw
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2020-05-07 19:08:34 UTC
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Really? What about agnosticism?
What about it?
An agnostic is just a Chickenshit atheist.
Agnostics don't believe its possible to know if God exists.
If I tell you I have a purple dragon in my garage, is your default that you can't know if I do or not?
None if the evidence given by believers has been found to be true in the attempts to prove God.
Which believers have you consulted?
Which atheists have you consulted.
I've listened to a number of atheists here, yourself included, and I continue to hear this very irrational claim that 'no evidence for God exists'.
So I, very naturally, ask where have you looked?
Post by michellemalkingmail.com
We don't have leaders and are all individuals. And we also know that you don't listen to what we say,
On the contrary, I DO listen. Your problem is that, after I listen, I ask difficult questions that you'd rather not deal with.
Post by michellemalkingmail.com
since your 'mind' is constrained by your version of your religion.
On the contrary, I'm not constrained, as are you and other atheists here, by irrational thinking to buttress your belief systems.
Doncha just love it when fundies try to use atheist arguments? They fail
to convince us with their arguments, so they apply ours to theirs.
Do you understand the difference between claiming 'there is no evidence for the existence of God' and 'I've not seen any evidence for the existence of God'?
They are essentially of the same meaning...expressed differently!
"Positive of not having one" and "have never seen one" have some difference in the expression, that is all!
Is that what your level A1 translation software tells you?
Is that another non-answer from a theist?
If you'll actually read what I wrote you'll see that it was I asking the questions.
Do you understand the difference between claiming 'there is no evidence for the existence of God' and 'I've not seen any evidence for the existence of God'?
Take your own advise, Kkkurt.
What "advise"(sic)?
Post by Syd M.
PDw
what you said above, KKKurt.

PDw
Yap Honghor
2020-05-05 00:46:35 UTC
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Really? What about agnosticism?
What about it?
An agnostic is just a Chickenshit atheist.
Agnostics don't believe its possible to know if God exists.
If I tell you I have a purple dragon in my garage, is your default that you can't know if I do or not?
None if the evidence given by believers has been found to be true in the attempts to prove God.
Which believers have you consulted?
Which atheists have you consulted.
I've listened to a number of atheists here, yourself included, and I continue to hear this very irrational claim that 'no evidence for God exists'.
So I, very naturally, ask where have you looked?
Post by michellemalkingmail.com
We don't have leaders and are all individuals. And we also know that you don't listen to what we say,
On the contrary, I DO listen. Your problem is that, after I listen, I ask difficult questions that you'd rather not deal with.
Post by michellemalkingmail.com
since your 'mind' is constrained by your version of your religion.
On the contrary, I'm not constrained, as are you and other atheists here, by irrational thinking to buttress your belief systems.
Doncha just love it when fundies try to use atheist arguments? They fail
to convince us with their arguments, so they apply ours to theirs.
Do you understand the difference between claiming 'there is no evidence for the existence of God' and 'I've not seen any evidence for the existence of God'?
They are essentially of the same meaning...expressed differently!
"Positive of not having one" and "have never seen one" have some difference in the expression, that is all!
Is that what your level A1 translation software tells you?
Yes, and you don't have one sub level A1 to work for you?
No wonder I feel uncomfortable with your words...
Post by Kurt Nicklas
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---
"You worship yourself, and I'll be glad when you drop dead from AIDS."
---"Tim"(Beesley)11/18/19 What would Timmy's mom say??
"Enjoy your AIDS infection, and die soon."
---"Tim"(Beesley)11/19/19 What would Timmy's mom say??
----------- A t h e i s t ------------
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Really? What about agnosticism?
What about it?
An agnostic is just a Chickenshit atheist.
They likely are afraid for good reason: afraid of losing family, friends,
job, or even being killed or beaten up. I'd bet that the vast majority
of atheists born in a religion go through the "agnostic" stage. I'm
happy they've rejected their bullshit religion brainwashing; they don't
need to call themselves atheist.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Agnostics don't believe its possible to know if God exists.
If I tell you I have a purple dragon in my garage, is your default that you can't know if I do or not?
None if the evidence given by believers has been found to be true in the attempts to prove God.
If nothing proves God, then why bother thinking about it?
I'm all for discovering all we can about reality, I don't see how a completely unevidenced deity fits in.
--
There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is _THE_ foundation of Christianity.
Christian: a person afraid of a perpetually hiding [imaginary] god.
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<***@hotmail.com> wrote:
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Post by Cloud Hobbit
Agnostics don't believe its possible to know if God exists.
Which is absolutely correct. There is no way to know (but see below).
We are all, in fact, agnostics.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
If I tell you I have a purple dragon in my garage, is your default that you
can't know if I do or not?
The scientific method is to assume the null hypothesis (which boils down
to assuming something doesn't exist) unless/until evidence arises to show
otherwise.

Religion tends to the opposite methodology.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
None if the evidence given by believers has been found to be true in the
attempts to prove God.
If nothing proves God, then why bother thinking about it?
Here's the thing. I can't prove that a god doesn't exist. No one can.

But I *can* prove that a Good God does not exist. The evidence for that is
all around. I.e., if God does exist, then He is as Dawkins (and Epicurus
earlier - see sig) describes Him: A mean, nasty SOB. And in that case, he
exhibits what the C programmers like to call "Undefined Behavior" - i.e.,
you can't draw any conclusions about Him.

So, you might as well just live your life on the assumption that He does
not exist. Since, if He does, you're in the land of UB.
--
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?

~ Epicurus
Tim
2020-04-29 09:43:17 UTC
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_atheism
The only valid criticism of atheism would be if there were atheists even
after a god was proven to exist.
Until that happens, AFAIC atheism IS the default position.
Really? What about agnosticism?
Atheism pertains to belief about gods, agnosticism to knowledge about gods.
Post by Charles Packer
http://cpacker.org
Ivan The Terrible
2020-04-29 09:45:01 UTC
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_atheism
The only valid criticism of atheism would be if there were atheists even
after a god was proven to exist.
Until that happens, AFAIC atheism IS the default position.
Really? What about agnosticism?
Atheism pertains to belief about gods, agnosticism to knowledge about gods.
Post by Charles Packer
http://cpacker.org
WRONG

a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God.
Tim
2020-04-29 10:04:35 UTC
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_atheism
The only valid criticism of atheism would be if there were atheists even
after a god was proven to exist.
Until that happens, AFAIC atheism IS the default position.
Really? What about agnosticism?
Atheism pertains to belief about gods, agnosticism to knowledge about gods.
Post by Charles Packer
http://cpacker.org
WRONG
a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God.
Why didn't you cut and paste this bit:

"a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena"

?

Because we both know I'm not wrong, coward.
Christopher A. Lee
2020-04-29 20:07:11 UTC
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_atheism
The only valid criticism of atheism would be if there were atheists even
after a god was proven to exist.
Until that happens, AFAIC atheism IS the default position.
Really? What about agnosticism?
Why should anybody single out one particular belief from all the
others they don't have, and treat it differently?
Ivan The Terrible
2020-04-29 09:23:54 UTC
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_atheism
The only valid criticism of atheism would be if there were atheists even after a god was proven to exist.
Until that happens, AFAIC atheism IS the default position.
There is a very good reason that atheists are a small minority on this planet.
Most people know it does not fit with reality.
Cloud Hobbit
2020-04-29 09:33:57 UTC
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There is a very good reason that atheists are a small minority on this planet.
Most people know it does not fit with reality

If that's so, why has none of the "evidence" been able to prove God's existence?

Why is a bullshit concept called faith involved?

If there's evidence, You don't need faith.
Ivan The Terrible
2020-04-29 09:37:40 UTC
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There is a very good reason that atheists are a small minority on this planet.
Most people know it does not fit with reality
If that's so, why has none of the "evidence" been able to prove God's existence?
You're a lying motherfucker who refuses to tell the truth about what you see.
Post by Ivan The Terrible
Why is a bullshit concept called faith involved?
If there's evidence, You don't need faith.
There are some intangibles which cannot be proven with evidence.
The great majority of humans know you are wrong.
Yap Honghor
2020-04-29 10:42:46 UTC
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There is a very good reason that atheists are a small minority on this planet.
Most people know it does not fit with reality
If that's so, why has none of the "evidence" been able to prove God's existence?
You're a lying motherfucker who refuses to tell the truth about what you see.
He has never seen a pixie, that is his truth, but you just have to lie...!!!
Post by Ivan The Terrible
Post by Ivan The Terrible
Why is a bullshit concept called faith involved?
If there's evidence, You don't need faith.
There are some intangibles which cannot be proven with evidence.
The great majority of humans know you are wrong.
This is a big lie...what intangible is a pixie? It can be asked to heal the amputees, right? Let's see you do it!!!!!!
michellemalkingmail.com
2020-04-30 11:57:32 UTC
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There is a very good reason that atheists are a small minority on this planet.
Most people know it does not fit with reality
If that's so, why has none of the "evidence" been able to prove God's existence?
You're a lying motherfucker who refuses to tell the truth about what you see.
Post by Ivan The Terrible
Why is a bullshit concept called faith involved?
If there's evidence, You don't need faith.
There are some intangibles which cannot be proven with evidence.
The great majority of humans know you are wrong.
An agnostic is a wishy-washiest. They can't decide whether they believe in a god or not. They seem to float in midair.
michellemalkingmail.com
2020-04-30 11:58:30 UTC
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There is a very good reason that atheists are a small minority on this planet.
Most people know it does not fit with reality
If that's so, why has none of the "evidence" been able to prove God's existence?
You're a lying motherfucker who refuses to tell the truth about what you see.
Post by Ivan The Terrible
Why is a bullshit concept called faith involved?
If there's evidence, You don't need faith.
There are some intangibles which cannot be proven with evidence.
The great majority of humans know you are wrong.
You don't speak for anyone but yourself.
Tim
2020-04-29 09:44:36 UTC
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_atheism
The only valid criticism of atheism would be if there were atheists even after a god was proven to exist.
Until that happens, AFAIC atheism IS the default position.
There is a very good reason that atheists are a small minority on this planet.
Most people know it does not fit with reality.
Atheism does not pertain to knowledge, idiot. And if religious people know they are right and atheists are wrong, why are there so many different religions, you dumb cunt?
Yap Honghor
2020-04-29 10:39:40 UTC
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_atheism
The only valid criticism of atheism would be if there were atheists even after a god was proven to exist.
Until that happens, AFAIC atheism IS the default position.
There is a very good reason that atheists are a small minority on this planet.
Most people know it does not fit with reality.
We know most people, including theists, know religions are scams!!!!!!!!
michellemalkingmail.com
2020-04-30 12:16:20 UTC
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_atheism
The only valid criticism of atheism would be if there were atheists even after a god was proven to exist.
Until that happens, AFAIC atheism IS the default position.
There is a very good reason that atheists are a small minority on this planet.
Most people know it does not fit with reality.
We know most people, including theists, know religions are scams!!!!!!!!
We don't know that. Most religious followers don't care what others
believe or not. Others who want to force their beliefs on everyone are the problem. Atheists don't care what others believe, as long as long as they
leave us alone.
Yap Honghor
2020-05-01 01:22:23 UTC
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_atheism
The only valid criticism of atheism would be if there were atheists even after a god was proven to exist.
Until that happens, AFAIC atheism IS the default position.
There is a very good reason that atheists are a small minority on this planet.
Most people know it does not fit with reality.
We know most people, including theists, know religions are scams!!!!!!!!
We don't know that. Most religious followers don't care what others
believe or not. Others who want to force their beliefs on everyone are the problem. Atheists don't care what others believe, as long as long as they
leave us alone.
Scam: A fraudulence scheme meant to gain materially through offering of "nothing" or something non-existent!!!!!!!!!!!

It would be very irresponsible if you do not alert others when seeing one in play!
Kevrob
2020-05-04 15:10:45 UTC
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_atheism
The only valid criticism of atheism would be if there were atheists even after a god was proven to exist.
Until that happens, AFAIC atheism IS the default position.
There is a very good reason that atheists are a small minority on this planet.
Most people know it does not fit with reality.
We know most people, including theists, know religions are scams!!!!!!!!
We don't know that. Most religious followers don't care what others
believe or not. Others who want to force their beliefs on everyone are the problem. Atheists don't care what others believe, as long as long as they
leave us alone.
Scam: A fraudulence scheme meant to gain materially through offering of "nothing" or something non-existent!!!!!!!!!!!
It would be very irresponsible if you do not alert others when seeing one in play!
The "religion scam" doesn't even have to be about money. There's
been many a priest, monk or preacher who actually lived by a vow
of poverty, even true asceticism, but used their doctrine to wield
influence on those who held power, when not giving the orders directly!
They may also enjoy the status that comes from being the leader of a
congregation, a school, a monastery or other religious institution,
even if that organization isn't wealthy. The "perfect scam" is when
the church has all the dough and the clergy get to use all those
resources without actually owning it.

See:

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2014/08/us/american-archbishops-lavish-homes/index.html

It compares to the political leaders and the management class of
the old Soviet Union not actually having high salaries, but having
the use of all the best stuff "owned by the people."

Of course, the crooks can just steal the money.

https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2019/10/10/raids-and-arrests-cast-doubt-on-the-holy-sees-clean-up

https://apnews.com/075ef7e4633662c0a7c7a6d31bd1ac56

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The only valid criticism of atheism would be if there were atheists even after a god was proven to exist.
Until that happens, AFAIC atheism IS the default position.
There is a very good reason that atheists are a small minority on this planet.
Most people know it does not fit with reality.
We know most people, including theists, know religions are scams!!!!!!!!
We don't know that. Most religious followers don't care what others
believe or not. Others who want to force their beliefs on everyone are the problem. Atheists don't care what others believe, as long as long as they
leave us alone.
Scam: A fraudulence scheme meant to gain materially through offering of "nothing" or something non-existent!!!!!!!!!!!
It would be very irresponsible if you do not alert others when seeing one in play!
The "religion scam" doesn't even have to be about money. There's
been many a priest, monk or preacher who actually lived by a vow
of poverty, even true asceticism, but used their doctrine to wield
influence on those who held power, when not giving the orders directly!
They may also enjoy the status that comes from being the leader of a
congregation, a school, a monastery or other religious institution,
even if that organization isn't wealthy. The "perfect scam" is when
the church has all the dough and the clergy get to use all those
resources without actually owning it.
https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2014/08/us/american-archbishops-lavish-homes/index.html
It compares to the political leaders and the management class of
the old Soviet Union not actually having high salaries, but having
the use of all the best stuff "owned by the people."
Of course, the crooks can just steal the money.
https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2019/10/10/raids-and-arrests-cast-doubt-on-the-holy-sees-clean-up
https://apnews.com/075ef7e4633662c0a7c7a6d31bd1ac56
Thanks, Kevin!
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Oko tillo
2020-04-29 19:11:17 UTC
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The only valid criticism of atheism would be if there were atheists even after a god was proven to exist.
Until that happens, AFAIC atheism IS the default position.
There is a very good reason that atheists are a small minority on this planet.
Most people know it does not fit with reality.
That so?

The "reality" of most people on this planet involves numerous gods
of which the Judeo-Christian god is only one. Historically even more so,
as belief in many other gods has waxed and waned. Gods by the thousands.

What does that tell you about this "reality"?


Oko
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2020-04-30 11:51:16 UTC
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The only valid criticism of atheism would be if there were atheists even after a god was proven to exist.
Until that happens, AFAIC atheism IS the default position.
There is a very good reason that atheists are a small minority on this planet.
Most people know it does not fit with reality.
The reality of a narcissist like you is highly questionable, since you
can't help but believe that you are always right.
Ivan The Terrible
2020-04-29 09:40:05 UTC
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My own suspicion is this:Most atheists abandon religion because they don't like being constrained by the rules of religion.
Marvin Sebourn
2020-04-29 15:15:16 UTC
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Joe: > My own suspicion is this:Most atheists abandon religion because they don't like being constrained by the rules of religion.

And I could counter that I believe that many people profess a belief in God because they know that they can "sin" or do something they know is ethically or morally wrong, and later ask their God for forgiveness, and be absolved of their guilt.

Marvin Sebourn
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2020-04-29 18:07:39 UTC
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_atheism
Joe: > My own suspicion is this:Most atheists abandon religion
because they don't like being constrained by the rules of religion.
The deliberately nasty Liar F
Post by Marvin Sebourn
And I could counter that I believe that many people profess a belief in God because they know that they can "sin" or do something they know is ethically or morally wrong, and later ask their God for forgiveness, and be absolved of their guilt.
Marvin Sebourn
Mad Joe keeps repeating this bigoted, deliberately nasty lie - while
pretending he isn't a liar himself and screaming "LIAR!!!!!!!!!!" at
everybody else..
Mitchell Holman
2020-04-29 18:38:50 UTC
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_atheism
Joe: > My own suspicion is this:Most atheists abandon religion
because they don't like being constrained by the rules of religion.
The deliberately nasty Liar F
Post by Marvin Sebourn
And I could counter that I believe that many people profess a belief
in God because they know that they can "sin" or do something they know
is ethically or morally wrong, and later ask their God for
forgiveness, and be absolved of their guilt.
Marvin Sebourn
Mad Joe keeps repeating this bigoted, deliberately nasty lie - while
pretending he isn't a liar himself and screaming "LIAR!!!!!!!!!!" at
everybody else..
And his calls for "EVIDENCE?//??" even as he
posts about his evidence-free "top secret security
clearance"
Ivan The Terrible
2020-04-29 21:04:10 UTC
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Post by Marvin Sebourn
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_atheism
Joe: > My own suspicion is this:Most atheists abandon religion
because they don't like being constrained by the rules of
religion.
The deliberately nasty Liar F
Post by Marvin Sebourn
And I could counter that I believe that many people profess a belief
in God because they know that they can "sin" or do something they know
is ethically or morally wrong, and later ask their God for
forgiveness, and be absolved of their guilt.
Marvin Sebourn
Mad Joe keeps repeating this bigoted, deliberately nasty lie - while
pretending he isn't a liar himself and screaming "LIAR!!!!!!!!!!" at
everybody else..
And his calls for "EVIDENCE?//??" even as he
posts about his evidence-free "top secret security
clearance"
Listen, stupid. I don't ask for evidence in every post and I won't give it every time I am asked. YOU CAN'T READ/
Mitchell Holman
2020-04-30 01:34:29 UTC
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Post by Ivan The Terrible
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Joe: > My own suspicion is this:Most atheists abandon religion
because they don't like being constrained by the rules
of religion.
The deliberately nasty Liar F
Post by Marvin Sebourn
And I could counter that I believe that many people profess a
belief in God because they know that they can "sin" or do something
they know is ethically or morally wrong, and later ask their God
for forgiveness, and be absolved of their guilt.
Marvin Sebourn
Mad Joe keeps repeating this bigoted, deliberately nasty lie -
while pretending he isn't a liar himself and screaming
"LIAR!!!!!!!!!!" at everybody else..
And his calls for "EVIDENCE?//??" even as he
posts about his evidence-free "top secret security
clearance"
Listen, stupid. I don't ask for evidence in every post and I won't
give it every time I am asked. YOU CAN'T READ/
Bingo.

You demand evidence from others but refuse
to post any yourself.
Marvin Sebourn
2020-04-29 20:42:07 UTC
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_atheism
Joe: > My own suspicion is this:Most atheists abandon religion
because they don't like being constrained by the rules of religion.
The deliberately nasty Liar F
Post by Marvin Sebourn
And I could counter that I believe that many people profess a belief in God because they know that they can "sin" or do something they know is ethically or morally wrong, and later ask their God for forgiveness, and be absolved of their guilt.
Marvin Sebourn
Mad Joe keeps repeating this bigoted, deliberately nasty lie - while
pretending he isn't a liar himself and screaming "LIAR!!!!!!!!!!" at
everybody else..
Considering the many times that atheists and agnostics have been accused of being liars, dishonest, breakers of the law in AltAth, it would be informative to compare the total of demonstrable lies, miscellaneous felonies, misdemeanors, civil actions, restraining orders, confiscations, etc. of all the persons in each of the two classes here, atheists/agnostics compared with theists.

Marvin Sebourn
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Ivan The Terrible
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Joe: > My own suspicion is this:Most atheists abandon religion
because they don't like being constrained by the rules of religion.
The deliberately nasty Liar F
I said it is a suspicion, not a claim, you illiterate asshole.
michellemalkingmail.com
2020-04-30 12:27:56 UTC
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Joe: > My own suspicion is this:Most atheists abandon religion
because they don't like being constrained by the rules of religion.
ArtieJoe has been repeating a lot of his old crap recently. He does this
every few years when he runs out of old ideas. He just goes back to the
beginning of his old ideas and repeats them.
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The deliberately nasty Liar F
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And I could counter that I believe that many people profess a belief in God because they know that they can "sin" or do something they know is ethically or morally wrong, and later ask their God for forgiveness, and be absolved of their guilt.
Marvin Sebourn
Mad Joe keeps repeating this bigoted, deliberately nasty lie - while
pretending he isn't a liar himself and screaming "LIAR!!!!!!!!!!" at
everybody else..
Ivan The Terrible
2020-04-29 21:00:50 UTC
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Joe: > My own suspicion is this:Most atheists abandon religion because they don't like being constrained by the rules of religion.
And I could counter that I believe that many people profess a belief in God because they know that they can "sin" or do something they know is ethically or morally wrong, and later ask their God for forgiveness, and be absolved of their guilt.
That is a complete lie, In the Abrahamic religions, they can repent and ask for forgiveness, but the final decision is up to God.In Judaism, God does not grant absolution. Your posts rank among the most ignorant silly crap.
Yap Honghor
2020-04-30 01:28:39 UTC
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Joe: > My own suspicion is this:Most atheists abandon religion because they don't like being constrained by the rules of religion.
And I could counter that I believe that many people profess a belief in God because they know that they can "sin" or do something they know is ethically or morally wrong, and later ask their God for forgiveness, and be absolved of their guilt.
That is a complete lie, In the Abrahamic religions, they can repent and ask for forgiveness, but the final decision is up to God.In Judaism, God does not grant absolution. Your posts rank among the most ignorant silly crap.
According to your reasoning, then what is the use of praying and repent since all decisions rest upon the pixie?
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2020-04-30 03:42:32 UTC
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Joe: > My own suspicion is this:Most atheists abandon religion because they don't like being constrained by the rules of religion.
And I could counter that I believe that many people profess a belief in God because they know that they can "sin" or do something they know is ethically or morally wrong, and later ask their God for forgiveness, and be absolved of their guilt.
Joe/Ivan
Post by Ivan The Terrible
That is a complete lie,
No.
Didn't you say that beliefs were not subject to proofs?
Didn't I say "...I believe..."
Didn't I say "...I COULD counter..." (emphasis mine)
Post by Ivan The Terrible
In the Abrahamic religions, they can repent and ask for forgiveness, but the final decision is up to God.
But he always forgives, except for blaspheming the Holy Spirit, and another one or two "sins".
Post by Ivan The Terrible
In Judaism, God does not grant absolution.
Where do I mention Judaism? Focus.
Post by Ivan The Terrible
Your posts rank among the most ignorant silly crap.
If you have difficulty dealing with my posts, go to the shallow end of the pool. Maybe just the kiddy wading pool.

So my post was not a complete lie, not even a lie at all. But you lied about it.

Marvin Sebourn
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Kurt Nicklas
2020-04-30 07:51:27 UTC
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Joe: > My own suspicion is this:Most atheists abandon religion because they don't like being constrained by the rules of religion.
And I could counter that I believe that many people profess a belief in God because they know that they can "sin" or do something they know is ethically or morally wrong, and later ask their God for forgiveness, and be absolved of their guilt.
If they want to sin, why not just be an atheist and cut out the whole 'forgiveness and absolution' cycle all at once?
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Marvin Sebourn
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2020-05-01 01:46:22 UTC
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Joe: > My own suspicion is this:Most atheists abandon religion because they don't like being constrained by the rules of religion.
And I could counter that I believe that many people profess a belief in God because they know that they can "sin" or do something they know is ethically or morally wrong, and later ask their God for forgiveness, and be absolved of their guilt.
If they want to sin, why not just be an atheist and cut out the whole 'forgiveness and absolution' cycle all at once?
Because a believer claiming to be an atheist is still a believer. Now, they are a lying, deceiving believer.

Because many atheists have higher ethical standards that many theists would find difficult to meet.

Because many theists don’t find it necessary to renounce their beliefs to “sin”. Lots of “sin” comes from pulpits and pews.

Marvin Sebourn
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Syd M.
2020-04-29 15:18:10 UTC
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My own suspicion is this:Most atheists abandon religion because they don't like being constrained by the rules of religion.
You are wrong, inquisition breath.

PDw
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My own suspicion is this:Most atheists abandon religion because they don't like being constrained by the rules of religion.
You are wrong, inquisition breath.
PDw
Jews never had an Inquisition.
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2020-04-30 01:43:04 UTC
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My own suspicion is this:Most atheists abandon religion because
they don't like being constrained by the rules of religion.
You are wrong, inquisition breath.
PDw
Jews never had an Inquisition.
Wrong.




Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is
giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their
fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign
gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully.
If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable
act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and
completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the
livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle
of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch
as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must
remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of
the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the
LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you.
He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation,
just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your
God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the
commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him."
(Deuteronomy 13:13-19)
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Psychological studies into the phenomenon of mysticism link disturbing aspects of certain mystics' experiences to childhood abuse.[43][44][45] Clifford A. Pickover found evidence suggesting that temporal lobe epilepsy may be linked to a variety of so-called spiritual or "other worldly" experiences, such as spiritual possession, originating from altered electrical activity in the brain.[46] Carl Sagan, in his last book The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark, presented his case for the miraculous sightings of religious figures and modern sightings of UFOs coming from the same mental disorder. Vilayanur S. Ramachandran suggests "It's possible that many great religious leaders had temporal lobe seizures and this predisposes them to having visions, having mystical experiences".[47] Michael Persinger stimulated the temporal lobes of the brain artificially with a magnetic field using a device nicknamed the "God helmet" and was able to artificially induce religious experiences along with near-death experiences and ghost sightings.[48] According to John Bradshaw "Some forms of temporal lobe tumours or epilepsy are associated with extreme religiosity." In his research recent brain imaging of religious subjects praying or meditating show identical activity in the respective human section of the brain which Ramachandran calls God-spots.

Psilocybin from mushrooms affect regions of the brain including the serotonergic system, which generating a sense of strong religious meaning, unity and ecstasy. Certain physical rituals may generate similar feelings.[49]

I think Art and duke have possibly been exposed to something like the "God helmet."

Its either that or they're just assholes.

Hmmmm. Decisions, decisions.

😷
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2020-04-30 10:33:06 UTC
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My own suspicion is this:Most atheists abandon religion because they don't like
being constrained by the rules of religion.
What would be the point? There are so many versions of religion around
that for theists, it would simply be a matter of changing to a version
that approved of one's particular proclivities.
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michellemalkingmail.com
2020-04-30 12:07:23 UTC
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My own suspicion is this:Most atheists abandon religion because they don't like being constrained by the rules of religion.
Most religions are god or gods based. Without a provable god or gods,
there is philosophy and law (non-religious).
Yap Honghor
2020-04-29 10:37:38 UTC
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There are Criticism of Christianity, Theism and Judaism also, I wonder why you refuse to list them as well....

Must be a bias liar!
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2020-04-29 11:11:48 UTC
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There are Criticism of Christianity, Theism and Judaism also, I wonder why you refuse to list them as well....
Must be a bias liar!
There's nothing about atheism to criticise, anything more than not
believing in Santa Claus - no matter what confrontationally
in-your-face, pig-ignorant, bigoted religious loonies like Mad Joe
imagine.

What atheism actually is, that is - because no matter how much the
bigoted liars try to tar atheists with the Stalin brush, atheism per
se is a non-event, just a description that we don't do something a lot
of other people do, little different from not believing in Santa Claus
and neither a motivation nor justification for anything.

Which he has had repeatedly explained ever since he first crashed the
group with his bigoted lies about us, to us.
Kurt Nicklas
2020-04-29 11:37:02 UTC
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_atheism
There are Criticism of Christianity, Theism and Judaism also, I wonder why you refuse to list them as well....
Must be a bias liar!
There's nothing about atheism to criticise, anything more than not
believing in Santa Claus - no matter what confrontationally
in-your-face, pig-ignorant, bigoted religious loonies like Mad Joe
imagine.
What atheism actually is, that is - because no matter how much the
bigoted liars try to tar atheists with the Stalin brush,
Like by saying that Stalin was an atheist AND one of the greatest mass murderers of history?

Well...he was, wasn't he? And atheists are so very, very devoted to provable facts aren't they?!

Except when they AREN'T, of course.

atheism per
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se is a non-event, just a description that we don't do something a lot
of other people do, little different from not believing in Santa Claus
and neither a motivation nor justification for anything.
Of course this definition of atheism does double-duty for CHRISTopher:
Since, for him, there is nothing to defend then he need not put forth the effort
to do so AND he gets to claim 'victim status' because he's so very, very put upon
by people who disagree with him!

Poor, poor man!
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Which he has had repeatedly explained ever since he first crashed the
group with his bigoted lies about us, to us.
JWS
2020-04-29 11:39:04 UTC
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_atheism
There are Criticism of Christianity, Theism and Judaism also, I wonder why you refuse to list them as well....
Must be a bias liar!
There's nothing about atheism to criticise, anything more than not
believing in Santa Claus - no matter what confrontationally
in-your-face, pig-ignorant, bigoted religious loonies like Mad Joe
imagine.
What atheism actually is, that is - because no matter how much the
bigoted liars try to tar atheists with the Stalin brush, atheism per
se is a non-event, just a description that we don't do something a lot
of other people do, little different from not believing in Santa Claus
and neither a motivation nor justification for anything.
Which he has had repeatedly explained ever since he first crashed the
group with his bigoted lies about us, to us.
I'm an agnostic atheist. I don't believe in any god, so
that makes me an atheist. I'm agnostic because I
don't know for sure that there is no god.
And being agnostic means that I support the idea of the
Divine Hiddenness of god which makes for fun arguments
with theists. Like, what is your god afraid of?
michellemalkingmail.com
2020-04-30 12:10:50 UTC
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There are Criticism of Christianity, Theism and Judaism also, I wonder why you refuse to list them as well....
And Hinduism and Buddhaism, etc.
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Must be a bias liar!
Of course. ArtieJoe has always been biased.
Yap Honghor
2020-05-01 01:17:01 UTC
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There are Criticism of Christianity, Theism and Judaism also, I wonder why you refuse to list them as well....
And Hinduism and Buddhaism, etc.
Of course....all religions are basically con stuffs. Even as Buddhism has no pixie, human have to turn Buddha into one, stupidly!
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Must be a bias liar!
Of course. ArtieJoe has always been biased.
Mad Joe is a person full of shit!
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I'm a polyatheist.
There are many gods I don't believe in.

When I think of all the harm the Bible has done, I despair of ever writing anything to equal it.  Oscar Wilde

Religion is "so absurd that it comes close to imbecility."  H.L. Menken
Kurt Nicklas
2020-04-30 07:48:38 UTC
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I'm a polyatheist.
There are many gods I don't believe in.
Speaking of belief, why did you recently deny making the following statement?

"Atheists don't see God because there is nothing to see.
God doesn't and cannot exist."
--"Cloud Hobbit" 8/11/19
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2020-04-30 01:39:31 UTC
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_religion
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[...]
https://contemporarythinkers.org/irving-kristol/essay/on-the-political-stupidity-of-the-jews/
Kevrob
2020-05-04 17:50:26 UTC
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[...]
https://contemporarythinkers.org/irving-kristol/essay/on-the-political-stupidity-of-the-jews/
This maybe a little easier to read:

https://tikvahfund.org/uncategorized/on-the-political-stupidity-of-the-jews/

The pdf is scanned from
"The Neo-conservative Persuasion: Selected Essays, 1942-2009."
New York: Basic Books, 2011. ISBN 0465022235

Kristol was perhaps the ur-Neo-Con. I read his
"Two Cheers For Capitalism" some 40 years ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irving_Kristol

His wife, the brilliant historian Gertrude Himmelfarb,
passed away in December.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gertrude_Himmelfarb

I note that Kristol uses the old chestnut, perhaps not so old when
Burke and Smith were writing, that religion is necessary for a good
society. That isn't a claim for the existence of a ghod or the ghodz.
A "non-theistic religion" based on philosophy could carry out that
function, in any event. The humanist, non-observant Jews Kristol
mentions came up with at least one:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethical_movement

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheistic_Judaism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_secularism

https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/must-a-jew-believe-in-god/

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Cloud Hobbit
2020-05-08 01:18:20 UTC
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Atheism is an idea.

The atheist idea, like all ideas, enters the marketplace of ideas and competes.

Now, that it is much harder to keep many arguments, evidence, and scholarly research, from being seen, atheism seems to be gaining ground in the freest, least restricted, best educated countries. It is one of the reasons (access to the web) that the less educated, less free countries, want to keep it that way.

Nothing seems to be as difficult as winning a holy war.

I look forward to a time when access to the web is free and open and that it creates an impetus to better education, especially when it comes to women in countries where it is limited.

I agree with Hitchens that the key to liberty starts with women's rights.

Better education leads to better sanitation, which leads to birth control, which leads away from overpopulation.

And eventually, to more atheists.

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Kurt Nicklas
2020-05-08 15:19:59 UTC
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Atheism is an idea.
The atheist idea, like all ideas, enters the marketplace of ideas and competes.
Now, that it is much harder to keep many arguments, evidence, and scholarly research, from being seen, atheism seems to be gaining ground in the freest, least restricted, best educated countries. It is one of the reasons (access to the web) that the less educated, less free countries, want to keep it that way.
What pops this balloon is that the most populous nation on earth is simultaneously authoritarian and officially atheist.

Authoritarianism and atheism have a long and bloody history.

The greatest mass murderers of the 20th century - Communist China and the USSR - were officially atheist dictatorships.

Communist China remains officially atheist.
LinuxGal
2020-05-08 17:25:54 UTC
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The greatest mass murderers of the 20th century - Communist China and the USSR - were officially atheist dictatorships.
My usual reply to argumentum ad Stalinum is to point out
that the greatest mass murders of the 20th Century were also
men. So it could be a testosterone thing, not just an
atheist thing or a communist thing.
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Kurt Nicklas
2020-05-08 18:30:10 UTC
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The greatest mass murderers of the 20th century - Communist China and the USSR - were officially atheist dictatorships.
My usual reply to argumentum ad Stalinum is to point out
that the greatest mass murders of the 20th Century were also
men. So it could be a testosterone thing, not just an
atheist thing or a communist thing.
Oh, my! "Oppression by the Male Power Structure" - the all-purpose get out of jail free card of the early 21st century. Absolves you from any hard thinking about moral responsibility and the free hand to act conferred by a convincing ideology certain than anything is justified in the pursuit of The Perfect Society(R) free of groveling before a Higher Power with a confining code of ethics and Eternal Judgement.

Poppycock.

All men have testosterone but all men are NOT mass murderers. Atheism was a central point in the communist ideology of these murderous states. That is a fact. Further, it's probably likely that most of the victims of these murderers were also male.
LinuxGal
2020-05-08 18:54:10 UTC
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On Friday, May 8, 2020 at 8:26:04 PM UTC+3, LinuxGal
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The greatest mass murderers of the 20th century -
Communist China and the USSR - were officially atheist
dictatorships.
My usual reply to argumentum ad Stalinum is to point out
that the greatest mass murders of the 20th Century were
also men. So it could be a testosterone thing, not just
an atheist thing or a communist thing.
All men have testosterone but all men are NOT mass
murderers.
All men have testosterone, but some men are more testy than
others. The essence of my post is to suggest that you
wrapped up your root cause analysis too soon.
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Tim
2020-05-08 19:06:25 UTC
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The greatest mass murderers of the 20th century - Communist China and the USSR - were officially atheist dictatorships.
My usual reply to argumentum ad Stalinum is to point out
that the greatest mass murders of the 20th Century were also
men. So it could be a testosterone thing, not just an
atheist thing or a communist thing.
Oh, my! "Oppression by the Male Power Structure" - the all-purpose get out of jail free card of the early 21st century. Absolves you from any hard thinking about moral responsibility and the free hand to act conferred by a convincing ideology certain than anything is justified in the pursuit of The Perfect Society(R) free of groveling before a Higher Power with a confining code of ethics and Eternal Judgement.
"certain than anything", LOL!
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Poppycock.
Aww, poor kuntles is butt hurt, boo hoo.
Post by Kurt Nicklas
All men have testosterone but all men are NOT mass murderers. Atheism was a central point in the communist ideology of these murderous states. That is a fact. Further, it's probably likely that most of the victims of these murderers were also male.
Theism is a central point in US politics. But it didn't stop them from nuking Japan, murdering millions of Vietnamese, Filipinos, Iraqis, and Latin Americans. Your hypocrisy is showing again, kuntles.
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